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Speaker 1: to Patriot's Unfiltered. We love it when they do bill

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Speaker 1: at eleven and locker room at five thirty or some tone.

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Speaker 1: And people have been calling them kind of frauds all

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium, but really it's

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Speaker 1: a Saturday when you think about football terms. Patriots are

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Speaker 1: on the road today. I'll be joining them to go

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota get ready for our Thursday night tilt against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. But news today Patriots have killed yet another

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Speaker 1: new Jersey Jets quarterback third right third one third, one

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Speaker 1: what else? What else am I going to leave? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if he didn't say something stupid after the I think

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Speaker 1: you're right question. This was a locker room move. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And now it seems like that's wait, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm like. I'm so Frank Reich decided to

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Speaker 1: fire himself by intentionally not playing the quarterback. That was healthy. No,

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Speaker 1: we killed the coach too, I got we killed the

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Speaker 1: put on like all the shots they've shot down. It's like, like,

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Speaker 1: we do that to the Bills? You think, because there

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Speaker 1: anyone we could get out, you know, either McDermott fired

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Speaker 1: you think that being serious? Like, do you think that

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson would be quarterbacking this week if he had

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Speaker 1: Like if you're having negative plays late and close, like

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Speaker 1: You're winning to despite yourself late and close right eight times?

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Speaker 1: about on the postgame show. And that's why I was

423
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: a little defensive of the coaches, Like everybody just beats

424
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: the crap out of the coaches, and I'm I'm in that.

425
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm included in that. I don't like the plan,

426
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: but I did see things that I haven't really seen.

427
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, I saw it. You know, I don't know

428
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: how creative it was, but it was different and it's

429
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: they're recognizing things and they're at least trying. And I

430
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: thought that some of the chunk plays they got in

431
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 1: that game were as the result of some of these

432
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: different looks. Yeah, that they that they Now you get

433
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: a couple more of those on tape, and maybe Fred,

434
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: you become a little bit more difficult to defend. Defend Y. Yeah,

435
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: I can't believe I screwed that up. Yesterday. We were

436
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: we were a lockstep and then I just misspooke on

437
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,479
Speaker 1: the when we did that together. Paul. I'm also like,

438
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: if they do get those chunk plays, I just would

439
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 1: be really interested to have like a clean game in

440
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: terms of like, okay, like Mac didn't have any turnovers, okay,

441
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: but like let's try to not have the offensive line commitment. Yeah,

442
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's true, And that's in that like burns,

443
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: like how do you it's just like a mindset and

444
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: and I know, um, you know, Max had some on

445
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: the radio yesterday about flipping the switch in the red zone,

446
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: and I mean it sounds great, but the switch is

447
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: getting flipped. It's a wrong direction when they get in

448
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: the red zone. Right now, That's another one that's kind

449
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: of sticking in my crop. The red zone, the red zone,

450
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: the red zone. It's all about the red zone. I

451
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: can't do this in the red zone. It you know

452
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Speaker 1: what I would like to get there, to get to

453
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Speaker 1: the red zone, No, I know, but what they have

454
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: but when they do, you know, there's only four one

455
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: there's only four teams in football that have been in

456
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: the red zone less than they have, which which but

457
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: how our house offense is like Denver and Carolina Butuston

458
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: that magnifies the mistakes even more they have so far.

459
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: I get it, they have been They've been bad when

460
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: they get there, yeah, but they don't get there, no,

461
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: and that's part of the play. Tennessee doesn't get there either,

462
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,239
Speaker 1: but they get a touchdown every time, right, so they

463
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: overcome it, right, you know, obviously helps they have Derrick Henry,

464
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: of course it does, you know, right, well, it's I mean,

465
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: I think like part of what I was saying, it's

466
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: like you're going into reverse when you get to the

467
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: high red zone. So you don't get to the red

468
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: zone because all of a sudden you get to like

469
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: the thirty and everybody starts first sack, first play, penalty,

470
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: lam up, they play up that's that's the stuff that

471
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: needs to add. Yes. Yeah, well I I like the

472
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, I like that little tweak that they did.

473
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Speaker 1: I hope that they have some more. Um. You know,

474
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Speaker 1: Evan went right went right at Mac yesterday. We'll question

475
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Speaker 1: about the identity of you know, saying some teams we

476
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: look at this team, they were spread team. Some teams

477
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: we look always Evans in the other room. All right,

478
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: so you can come into um, I'll let I'll let

479
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Speaker 1: ever subscribe. What what you know? He asked Mac, But

480
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: he said, you know, it's the same thing Evan was

481
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: saying yesterday on the radio of doesn't feel like there's

482
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: like a core set of identity bass plays that this

483
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: offense has. He's all dressed up. You guys can see him.

484
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: He's getting ready for the plane. Oh, Matt's got a volume,

485
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: you up kind of volume. I thought i'd pop in

486
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: and say hi for Sultan. You were looking for a

487
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: certain response. But go back to your question yesterday with Mac. Yeah,

488
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: so I asked him like Mike basically said the question

489
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: exactly word for word. You know, other offenses, I can

490
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: look at them play and look at their coaching staff

491
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: and their pedigree and their background and all these types

492
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: of things and say, Okay, did Buffalo, Kansas City, you

493
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: guys run a spread? You know, Shanahan Tree guys, you

494
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: guys run this outside zone system. And I asked Mac,

495
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: what's the Patriot system? Like what what do you guys?

496
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: And he said that we want to be good at everything.

497
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: And my reaction to that was, I don't know if

498
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: this team has the horses to be good at everything, right.

499
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, we could be good

500
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: at everything, because let's try being good at something right. Yeah. Yeah,

501
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm really fascinated to see this game

502
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, because it's a short week. They talk

503
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: all the time about how they're not going to reinvent

504
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: the wheel with one and a half days of practice,

505
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: So this game on Thursday night should really be your

506
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: core plays, Like what we believe in the most that

507
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: we can execute is what we're going to execute in

508
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: a short week. So I think we'll find out really

509
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: quickly on Thursday night, this is what they think they

510
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: are good at right now. I we'll see what it is. Yeah.

511
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear like a real scouting report of

512
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: UM because the question that somebody asked, I think one

513
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: of the guys yesterday might have been Dugger dug, but

514
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: they just said, you know, how hard is it to study,

515
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, the schemes of the other team in such

516
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: a you know, quick turnaround and is it mentally more challenging?

517
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Or it was actually Adrian Philip sorry, um but ap

518
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: but he said, you know it's or you know, I'm sorry,

519
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk this back. Karen Gregian asked him about

520
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: is it easier to scout teams coming off a blowout

521
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: like that? Can you learn anything from that blowout or

522
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: you and he said, well, it's better to watch the

523
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: close games because then you can tee up a lot

524
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: of gotta have at moments and this is what this

525
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: team is going to go to and they got to

526
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: have him all. So I wonder with the Patriots, is

527
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: there a theme for like a professional scout to look

528
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: at what does this team do and they got to

529
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: have the moments? Because I think what Evans question got

530
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: at and what I feel like, it's like it's just

531
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: a Pope perri of who knows what they're gonna do.

532
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: There's nothing that they're like, well, clearly they believe in

533
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: this play and they know that when they got to

534
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: have it, this is what they're going to go to.

535
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: Who knows what it is. I don't know, I don't know,

536
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: but an interesting I mean, it's a brand new offense

537
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: and it's ten games. They haven't established themselves. I mean,

538
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: some teams need a couple of seasons before they established

539
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: a new offense, you know. Like so it's not surprising,

540
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: but it's that's the fact is that they don't have

541
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: an identity. They really don't. I wonder if they're going

542
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: to go back to I mean, kind of what more

543
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: of Mac did well last year in this game, kind

544
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: of more of like the short pass. It felt like

545
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: a last game, I mean, and I thought, like, you know,

546
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: it felt like Mac did a pretty good job last game.

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Like all things considered, it wasn't you know, he didn't,

548
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, raise the level of team, but he didn't

549
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: take that over the I don't know whatever the last

550
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: four or five games before that, they're sure wasn't. He

551
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: should have probably had at least two or three picks

552
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: in this game. There was not that really low bar. No, No,

553
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: it's it's just what I made this comment yesterday, like

554
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: this is what everybody wanted to clamor for like, can

555
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: they go back to doing the things that mac Jones

556
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: did well lash it? Yeah, this is it. This is

557
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: why they changed it because it's not good enough. Yeah,

558
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: because you can complete one hundred percent of your passes

559
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: for two hundred and fifty yards and not get any points. Yeah,

560
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: because you're not really threatening the defense in any way. Fred,

561
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: why they're easy to defend. Also would help if you

562
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: actually threw the ball into the end zone on Yeah,

563
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: which would maybe decent. We had some good good We

564
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: had some good questions to the mailbag this week about

565
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: no fly zone. You know, when you when they get

566
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: down there, why they so reluctant ye to push the

567
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: ball into the end zone. I mean, there's a lot

568
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: of good offensive coaches that will tell you that sometimes

569
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you just want to skip over the red zone, right.

570
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: The red zone is a is a tough area to

571
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: score in. It's compact space. It's not an easy place

572
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: to score. Teams that are even in the best has

573
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of done that. Yeah, even the teams that are

574
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: best in the league in the red zone or what

575
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: usually like sixty sixty five percent, So that means forty

576
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: percent of the time they're also failing. So I think

577
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: I look at it, you know, the red zone, and

578
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: you say, all right, well, when you first and ten

579
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: from the twenty two yard line, you know, maybe let's

580
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: drop a little bit of a shot play here to

581
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: try to get the ball into the end zone or

582
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: at least get the ball down to the one or

583
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: the two yard line where maybe we can pound the

584
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: rocking at that. But you know, knowing Bill, at least

585
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: a couple of these recent games have been those type

586
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: of games were the only way the other team's gonna

587
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: beat you is if you help them. Yeah, you know,

588
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: it's all about punting and field position. And so Bill's like,

589
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: don't don't take the chance. We don't need it. You know.

590
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: As long as we don't make mistakes like that, we're

591
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be in. And at the end of the skit

592
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: that now this game might be a little different because

593
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota does have the you know, I can't expect that

594
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to give up three points in

595
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: this game, you know, and dominate the game. Like whenever

596
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots are in control defensively in a tight game,

597
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel good, you know, even though

598
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: it's closed. If our defense is dictating. I feel good. Well, yeah,

599
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: because you're not in a situation where you need to

600
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: score points, right, and you're not in a situation where

601
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: you have to take chances. Well, but they haven't had

602
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: an ability to match scores with anybody, and right, it's

603
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: been a while. So yeah, I would definitely feel better

604
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: in a game and the teams than I would in

605
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: the twenties. Yeah, for this team. But let's see, like

606
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: if the game declares itself where oh, Vikings are able

607
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: to move the ball, maybe they need to go to

608
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: the end zone a little bit more from twenty yards out.

609
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: We'll see it might be interesting. See, you know, I mean,

610
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: I think everybody is is curious to see the Patriots

611
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of feet to the coals and you know, get

612
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: off to that. You know, maybe not even a bad start,

613
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: but just a couple of bad breaks, you know, a

614
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: one blown coverage and you know, all of a sudden,

615
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: they're in a ten point hole. Right now. Now, let's

616
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: see what Let's see what ap Patricia has in the

617
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: bag to try to get these guys back in the game.

618
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: I would also love to see them score a touchdown

619
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: in the first quarter for a while, all right, stop it.

620
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I don't think they've scored a touchdown the

621
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: first quarter all season, is that right? Yeah? If I

622
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: if that's stat. I saw it a stat on Twitter,

623
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know. I didn't look it

624
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: up myself, but you know, a little dicey there. But yeah,

625
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: they're one of the worst first quarter teams in the league,

626
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: which tells you that that opening script not a Yeah,

627
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: they've only scored fifteen points in the first quarter all year,

628
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: so fifteen think about that is how to imagine five

629
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: field goals to me? Like five field goals to me too, Right,

630
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: in ten games, they've scored fifteen points in the first quarter,

631
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 1: which is like, and we've always busted that the chops

632
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: of of Josh McDaniels are saying, your best drive is

633
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: your first one of the game when you know how

634
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: it's you know what you're gonna get. And odd part

635
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: is I think that they actually had some some of

636
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: those games where they had no offense at all, they

637
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: had some good best drives they had where the opening

638
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: like even like the opening drive of the season was

639
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good drive in Miami that unfortunately ended with

640
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: a pick. But the fact that they haven't that that's

641
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: gotta be five field goals because they didn't hit a

642
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: two point full, hasn't missed any extra points. If I'm

643
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think they're the only team in the

644
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: league that hasn't scored a touchdown in the first quarter yet. Wow,

645
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: it's funny how you can watch ten games and not

646
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: really be aware of something like yeah, yeah, I mean

647
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: it feels right, Yeah, definitely. Actually, I let me ask

648
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Evian about the football's thing. Um, yes, they had that,

649
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: they had that. Oh, he'll be able to explain this.

650
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: They had the vikings as twenty ninth late and close,

651
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: and Paul was Paul that didn't That didn't sit right,

652
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: doesn't all? It doesn't seem compute when they all they

653
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: do is win close games. Are you sure you filtered

654
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: it correctly? I filtered it. I thought I was going

655
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: to get like, twenty ninth could also mean like third best, right,

656
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: like if you depending on the way that it now,

657
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm right. Well, Lukins, Yeah, but they've outscored

658
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: oppotents in the fourth quarter what like forty four to

659
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: something many opponents. I'm looking at this directly. Well, I

660
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: will say this about football outsiders and their feelings on

661
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: the Vikings they are. I really do not like the Vikings,

662
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: and I sha I share a Football Outsiders opinion of

663
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings at large. But the only way they win

664
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: games is like a late with like a late field.

665
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Every one of their games is a one score win.

666
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: It seemed to me as well. But yeah, they're twenty

667
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: third in the league right now in DVOA as an

668
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: eight and two team. Yeah, that makes to me. I've

669
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of the high I haven't watched games

670
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: like I saw the Philadelphia game early in the year. Um,

671
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: but that's and I saw a lot of the Buffalo game,

672
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: and I thought they were thoroughly all played in both games. Yeah,

673
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and they won, they won one of them. Like, but

674
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: so I understand like all the DVOA negative numbers, I'm

675
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: with them with Football Outsiders on that just does that

676
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: one doesn't compute to me. They only win one scored

677
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: games and they're eight and two. The Bills had a

678
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: ninety eight point six percent chance of winning that game

679
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: against the Vikings and they're up twenty seven twenty three

680
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: with forty seconds left and lose the game. I could

681
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: tell you if Paul Parolo was the quarterback of the Bills.

682
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: They would have won the game. I'd never fumbled a

683
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: snap in ten years of playing quarterback. Does Bill take

684
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: the intentional safety? No, there was no need to take

685
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: an intentional safety and risk losing on a field goal.

686
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: That's the way I thought to All you have to

687
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: do is take the snap. Like it's not a hard thing,

688
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you know. Bill says, Oh, we're just trying to get

689
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback center exchanged out right, That's all that. It

690
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: was quarterback center exchanged. And then you just go down

691
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: to when you make sure you're you're outside the goal line.

692
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: That's it. I do at least like try to get

693
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: him to jump, you know, like you could. And they

694
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of did that. They gave like they talked about

695
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: they did a hard count or something and they didn't jump,

696
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: like whatever. But I don't know, Like sometimes you just

697
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: find a way to lose a game that you have

698
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: no business losing. In Minnesota's obviously won a handful of

699
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: those games this year that they've had no business winning. Yeah,

700
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: all right, five five pats five hundred is the ace

701
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: ticket hut line. Let's go to the phones. They're stacked

702
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: up Patty's an agaam, what's up? Patty? Hey Betty? So Mike,

703
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you that what I say is issue

704
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: is an aptitude. That's what he's feeling with. So I

705
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you, Paul. I think we might

706
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: actually see this team get in the end zone a

707
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: few times on Thursday night. And I'm really excited to

708
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: see how they've spend justin Jefferson, because he's that that

709
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: one guy that, like, you know, Bill's gonna have the

710
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: game plan to take out of the game and let

711
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: all the other guys, you know, if if we can

712
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: we can live with Dalvin Cook and Eric and feeling

713
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: beating us that, you know, I think he'll he'd be

714
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: all right with that. And I just had a quick question.

715
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that they take a flyer on

716
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: your seer Durant? I know that they just signed that

717
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: guy from the jifth practice squad that we drafted in

718
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: seventeen books. Um, that's it. That's all I got, guys,

719
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Patty Durant. Was he was waived you

720
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: got with yesterday? I don't know. I mean, I think

721
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: he was more of an inside guy, but I wouldn't

722
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: rule it out if you have, you know, some depth issues,

723
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: you maybe want to consider something with cold strange. What's

724
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: the health of the tight end from Minnesota? Because he's

725
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: talking about taking away Jefferson, Yeah, you know it's good. Yeah, yeah,

726
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but they still came away the last time. Yeah.

727
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: I also wonder if the focus will be more on

728
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: taking away Jefferson or taking away Cook. Do you think

729
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: they'll try to run the ball more? Because the Patriots

730
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: haven't been that great against the run anyway, So do

731
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: you think they'll lean more on that? But I think

732
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: they'll try to establish a run Absolutely? Fuck yeah, I

733
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: think I think it's term mobile quarterback. The Patriots have

734
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: been nails against the run this year. It's barely just

735
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: fields and Lamar going off against them in those two games,

736
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean green Bay had a previo. I mean green

737
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Bay ran for two hundred yards. Yeah, but that but

738
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: that game plan is, you know, you have Aaron Rodgers

739
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: on the other side, and you're playing two high shells

740
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: the entire game and you're a man down in the box.

741
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: So so that but to that point, if if it

742
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: is Jefferson, you're worried about what is your defensive front

743
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna look, I mean, I don't think that Dalvin Cook

744
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: will take this game over, but I think the focus

745
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: has to be Jefferson. You can't allow Jefferson to go. Yeah,

746
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I think. I think it really depends on how much

747
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: confidence they have in Jonathan Jones. I mean, he's been

748
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: great this year, and if they feel like he's playing

749
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: at that level where you can just put Jonathan Jones

750
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: on Justin Jefferson and obviously Jonathan Jones can travel inside

751
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: with him, he can travel outside with him and just

752
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: play your man coverage and think your guy's good enough

753
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: to hold up, then that frees you up to do

754
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: some other things. If you don't and you think you

755
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: need to basically bracket or double Justin Jefferson, especially on

756
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: third down or red zone situations and things like that,

757
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: then yeah, it leaves you vulnerable in other spots, no

758
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: doubt about it. So I wouldn't be surprised if they

759
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: try to roll with Jonathan Jones early and see if

760
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: he can hold hold up against Justin Jefferson on his own.

761
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: Mikes and Vermont, what's up, Mike? Yes, Now, I'm a

762
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: true Patriots fan. I have faith in my team no

763
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: matter what some of these so called fans need to

764
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: stop booing Mac Jones and give him a damn chance. Yes,

765
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: definitely got us a few wins, but Mac is the

766
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: quarterback to all. These so called fans need to give

767
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Matt a chance to prove that he can do what

768
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: he can do. And that's all I gotta say. So, Mike,

769
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: you you think some fans aren't even giving him a chance? Well,

770
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I would say that Chicago game that Monday night, Mike

771
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: is right, like, um, they're not giving Mac chance and

772
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: they need to give Mac a chance. He's just coming

773
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: off with an ankle injury for Christ's sake. Ye, these

774
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: so called fans, they need to either get on the

775
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: bandwagon was back or get off and go with a

776
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: different team. Wow. But I am so sick of seeing

777
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: people saying, oh, Mack needs to go, Belichick needs to

778
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: fire Mac or whatever and ball crap. And in your opinion,

779
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: how long does that chance? Like? What what are you

780
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: looking for? Mike is gonna take us all the way

781
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: at Okay, so you're you're you're sold? Okay, Okay, all right,

782
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: I can feel that. Make if Mike and given the

783
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: chance and have someone that work with him like Brady

784
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: had bloods don't work with him? Blood didn't. Oh, okay,

785
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: and then Matt, I know Mac can take us all

786
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: the way if he's given the chance. Lord, well, I'm glad,

787
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: very confident. That's good. I love your confidence, Mike. Thanks

788
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: for the call. I'm not here to take away someone's confidence. Absolutely,

789
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't share it. But I don't boo him either,

790
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not big. I was really upset

791
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: that Chicago game if you recall when they were booing

792
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: before Mac Jones even took a snap. You know, listen,

793
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I hope that he's right. I hope that Mac is

794
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the guy and takes us all the way. But right

795
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: now it's a little bit of blind faith because we

796
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: haven't really seen it yet. Where Okay, we know we

797
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: can do it. We just got to get some few

798
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: things right and he's gonna be fine. Well, you know,

799
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: blind faith. That doesn't make sense because faith is believing

800
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: it before you see it. Well yeah, so so faith, Yes,

801
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: blind faith. Faith is already a little bit redune that. Yeah,

802
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: you become very easy to defend. But blind faith. But

803
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there is some type of confidence derived it

804
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: from or derived from what you've seen, like Okay, I've

805
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: seen him do it before. I have faith that he's

806
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: going to do it again. But we haven't really seen

807
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: it yet. Are we still holding on to like last

808
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: year's Cleveland game? Is that the thing that you hold

809
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: up you know what I mean? I mean, I suppose

810
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: you could make that argument like if you if you

811
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: did it, then you can do it right. It is

812
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: because he didn't right ourselves. Used to say, everyone, so

813
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: I break on parselves? Is yeah, Well, used to say,

814
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: if they don't bite when they're puppies, they're not gonna

815
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: bite when they're dogs. No, I can never tell you

816
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: you didn't do it, you know. So we're looking for

817
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: that dog. Yeah, that thing that tells us all right,

818
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Max got it, he's got that. This game, to me,

819
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: is set up for him to do that because last week,

820
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people I'm not gonna name names,

821
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been using using note not

822
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: anybody in this necessarily. I have been using the wind

823
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: as an Oh it was a windy day, and this

824
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: isn't a good day to pass the football, and the

825
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: uprights were shaken, but are and these are the things

826
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: that are being set right. And I did this this

827
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: is awesome in this game. Minnesota's defense is good enough

828
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: where I will not say, oh, he was playing the

829
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: Lions or he's playing the Browns that there was zero

830
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: resistance and they're in a dome, So like this should

831
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: be a game where they should be able to throw

832
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: the football a little bit. Now, can the offensive line

833
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: hold up and give him time to throw the football.

834
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: It's a totally different part of the equation, but in theory,

835
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: just going off the conditions of this game going in,

836
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to see them be able to throw the

837
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: football with some efficiency in this game. Like I should

838
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: be able to watch the game on Friday and be

839
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: able to break down a dozen throws of his that

840
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: he made good or bad. But he should be able

841
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: to throw the football. Yeah, do you feel like because

842
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: they I mean they're high percentage zone team, that you

843
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: know that this isn't like our lack of athleticism and

844
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: receiver and tight end is going to get suffocated by

845
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: tough man coverage. We have supposedly smart receivers who can

846
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: find holes in zone coverage, and you should be able

847
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: to execute. Maybe. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a

848
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: lot of things that I think favored the Patriots being

849
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: able to throw. I mean, they're the second worst team

850
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: in the league against play action. The Vikings in terms

851
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: of their defense nine point nine yards attempt right now

852
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: against play action. There basically play split safety zone. Fifty

853
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: percent of the time. It's either quarters or Cover six.

854
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: It's very predictable, a Bill said yesterday. They do what

855
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: they do right, like, you know, they know exactly what

856
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: they're going to do against them, so it's time to

857
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: see it like this is It's funny. The Vikings even

858
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: years ago, always had that kind of you know, identity

859
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: on defense, like they never adjusted. You know, they were

860
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: this Cover two team, you know, and they never like well,

861
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: they never adjusted. You know what I was about to

862
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: bring up, And I don't know this is going too

863
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: far back, but oh six, I remember, you know, through

864
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: the first and I looked at it today, like I

865
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know, seven weeks of the season, oh six, they struggled.

866
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: They didn't have Dion Branch. They went and got what

867
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Doug Gabriel from Vegas. I mean, it was just kind

868
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: of a mess. And then all of a sudden against Minnesota,

869
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I think it was Monday Night football maybe, like they

870
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: just exploded for like four hundred hours of offense and

871
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, and I know the teams were way different now,

872
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: but I just same kind of thing where it's like

873
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: these questions about the Patriots offense and then to use

874
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: Paul's phrase to get right game where they just face

875
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: the defense that kind of plays and Brady just tore

876
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: them apart. And here's where it's very dangerous to do it,

877
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: but I do it anyway. I fall into these traps

878
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: all the time. Like the thing that I just saw

879
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: with Minnesota was Tony Pollard like being a big part

880
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: of the passing game, and I think, well, what's Mac

881
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Jones been doing the last month, you know, five six

882
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: times seven times a game. Ermandre Stevenson's been getting thrown to.

883
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not telling you that he's gonna be Tony

884
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: Pollard and turn that into a sixty eight Young touchdown.

885
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: But I think they could make some chunk plays in

886
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: those zones where you know, you kind of you leave

887
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: in this gaps that that you know, like you can't

888
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: put what you know. I don't want to say it

889
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: the wrong way, So I mean they play too high,

890
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: too high. They played cover two quarters, cover six, which

891
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: is all the two high family. And you see Eric

892
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Kendricks running to the sideline last week try to chase

893
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. I could see that this week. Yeah, yeah,

894
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and again that's dangerous. That's one game and

895
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: maybe it was a bad game, yea for Minnesota, maybe

896
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: that's very atypical of what they do. But I think

897
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Ermandre Stevenson could be a big part of the passing game.

898
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: How much pressure do you think is on Patricia and

899
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we a lot, but generally for

900
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: this game and everything we talked about like, is this

901
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: a game where you feel like you need a good

902
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who can scheme, you know, well against this

903
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: kind of stuff? You know what I mean? A better

904
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: offensive line before well you need to be a little

905
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: creative to hide your warts on the offensive line. Yeah,

906
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: that's something to me, is that everybody talks about how

907
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: bad the offensive line is. The offensive line is bad.

908
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: We know the offensive line is bad. So you can't

909
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: go into the game and call five step drops out

910
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: of shotgun with everybody's one on one and expect them

911
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: to be able to block people because you know it's

912
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: not going to happen. So if you're gonna try to

913
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: drop a player to get down the field, and it's

914
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to be this seven man protect from under

915
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: center with play action and dress it up and be

916
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: able to give them some help. But I think that's

917
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: what happened consistently in this Jets game, is they made

918
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: some progress down the field and they went back into

919
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: shotgun and all of a sudden, you know what, you

920
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: got Yasier Durant in my head, Yanni could use is

921
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: one on one against John Franklin Myers and he gets,

922
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, put into the ground and Mac Jones is

923
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: on the ground too. You know, like this is that's

924
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: what happened this entire last game. But I think, you know,

925
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: the Tony Pollard point, Dad Prescott just scanning through his

926
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: reads ridiculously fast and that. Yeah, yeah, it's just you know,

927
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: the one that he hit Pollard on the thirty yard touchdown.

928
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: He starts on the left side, he goes sluggo seem

929
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: check down like in like a second, and that when

930
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: you play these zone defenses, they follow your eyes right.

931
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: So he's starting with his eyes to his left, but

932
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: he ends up hitting Pollard in the flat to the right,

933
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: and so the whole zone is moved over here and

934
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: he's able to get to a backside and hit the checkdown.

935
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: So if Mac is going through his progressions as quickly

936
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: as Dak was in that game, then that's a real

937
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: sign of progress I made over the years. Whether it

938
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: was bledsoeer Brady, there were times where for whatever reason,

939
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: the offensive line was in trouble and they would use

940
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: max protect, they keep a tight end in, they keep

941
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: the running, you know, and they still figured out how

942
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: to run an offense. You know, but it's up to

943
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback, like like Evans said, he's gonna make a

944
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: quick decision, you know, because you know you're not going

945
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: to have as many weapons because you're holding them back

946
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: to protect you. So you've got to go with your

947
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: first read. It's an interesting observation to me, just as

948
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things that we

949
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: thought about Mac, that he was smart, that he could

950
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: go through reads. I mean, you know, watching him and

951
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: Alabama and all the you know, scouting tape and everything

952
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: that you know came out when he was coming out

953
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: of that was you know, he can do it. And

954
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: I think we've seen him this year get locked on

955
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: guys and you know, one particular Thornton up the sideline.

956
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: I forget what play that was, but you know it

957
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: has happened. So I mean, it's just it's it's interesting

958
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: if he's going to be able to kind of break

959
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: that and get through these things and be able to

960
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: go through those progressions again. So I came out of

961
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: that last game last week not really too feeling too

962
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: much angst about mac Jones. I just I Tamaris, they

963
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: got to protect him, like they just they have to

964
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: do better, They have to scheme it, whatever it is.

965
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: You have to give him time. It just seems like

966
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: nothing else is more critical than allowing everything. I might

967
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: as well be like a fifteen year old on the

968
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: middle school bus somewhere a lot of angst Todd's in

969
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey guys. My question is when

970
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: we had mcdonnels here, you always seem to throw in

971
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: a trick play and was he using those just to

972
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: kind of get the confidence of the team up? Was

973
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: he just trying to, you know, get something started with

974
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: those things, And if that works, why don't we use

975
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: it now? Like put Marcus Jones, like Andy said, and

976
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember who something said, put Marcus

977
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: Jones doing an end around with him or something. Well, yeah,

978
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: they've been given given the ball to Agalore once in

979
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: a while, they thorton, they've given the ball in the

980
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: batfield too. I think I think probably should have been

981
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think the ball he's more talking about

982
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: the like you know, Jacobe Meyers I talk about. Yeah,

983
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, that'll happen, you know, But I

984
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: think they're just working on the fundamentals right now, you know.

985
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it is interesting it hasn't happened because they

986
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: would always felt like we always kind of use those

987
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: plays as an indictment on the offense at like conventionally, right,

988
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: they have to resort to they have to resort to

989
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: some trick play to beat guys, whether you know, throwing

990
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: a fullback of land and Robertson down the sideline or

991
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: things of thatcher But I mean, why not, Like, I mean,

992
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: it's a good question because you had certainly had trouble.

993
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the they had Myers throw pass

994
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: though this year right to Aglore Right they had early

995
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: in the season. I think they had they I think

996
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, they've done yeah, one or two

997
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: Myers is not throwing a past this show they had.

998
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I think was it Born or ag I think it

999
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: was Born that threw the past to Agglore last year

1000
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: because they had Myers and Born throw passes last year.

1001
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: So no one this show nothing. Why does Mac look

1002
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: more nervous in the shotgun because I've rewatched the game

1003
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: and nobody can look. I don't know he can see

1004
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: it coming. Thanks? All right, Thanks, Let's go to Hawaii.

1005
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Wills in Hawaii? What's up? Will Will? Thank you guys,

1006
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for taking them off call. First of all,

1007
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: because I gotta get this off my chest over I'm

1008
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna have an aneurysm or something. Look, we have our

1009
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and you guys know where I'm going with this.

1010
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: We have them. The only thing is politics is keeping

1011
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: him on the sideline. And you should break out my

1012
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: little poll. So you like Brian Hoyer? No, I know

1013
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: you think Bailey's appy is a franchise quarterball. Now here's

1014
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: the thing, guys, here's the thing, because that's where we're going.

1015
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear all the excuses from Mac Jones.

1016
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: I mean they are talking about the old line, they're

1017
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: talking about the weather, they're talking about his ankle and

1018
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: I was right there with them until Bailey's appy wasn'tserted

1019
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: into that game, and I said, I liked the cut

1020
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: of this guy's jim. I liked it from day one.

1021
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: And then he went on and it was Detroit, and

1022
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: then it was Cleveland and then and then they put

1023
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: him in the Chicago game and I knew it was over.

1024
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: I said, this is the guy. But everybody point to

1025
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: the second half and they won't give him a pass

1026
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: like they give macapare That last part. I would agree with, Yeah, no, no,

1027
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: because I would say that listen, I'm not a big

1028
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Bailey zappy guy. Everybody knows that. But Zeppy like it

1029
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: was like they were waiting for him to have to

1030
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: fail and then as soon as he failed, see whereas like, yeah,

1031
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: the office didn't look any worse in the second half

1032
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: of the Chicago game than it's looked the last month.

1033
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: And to this guy's to Will's point, like everybody's like, oh,

1034
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: that's the weather now, not to Evan's point, because Evan

1035
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: made fun of the people who were questioning the weather.

1036
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: By the way, how did Zach Wilson play on Sunday

1037
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the weather or was it

1038
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: like the page exactly. Robert Salad doesn't feel like the

1039
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: weather was a factor. Now, I the thing about Bailey

1040
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Zappy against Chicago is just that what we had been

1041
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: saying all along for those two games against De Troyd

1042
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: and Cleveland is that everything was dressed up for him

1043
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: to be perfectly executed for the quarterback, right you know,

1044
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: you have like I was just talking about seven man protect,

1045
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: play action, two guys in the route, and he's reading

1046
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: really one guy to figure out where he's going with

1047
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: the football, and you know, is his simplified max protect

1048
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: type of situations. And then when they got down against Chicago,

1049
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: will now play action and all that kind of stuff

1050
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: isn't really gonna work when you're down by two touchdowns

1051
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: because why are they reacting to a play fake? And

1052
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: then he had to actually run a real you know,

1053
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: shotgun or a type of offense with traditional drop backs

1054
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,799
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1055
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Speaker 1: it didn't look as good. So I think that's really

1056
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1057
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1058
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Speaker 1: I will say that everybody was just sort of waiting

1059
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Speaker 1: to say, seat seat, Like, Okay, well they ignored the

1060
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1061
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Speaker 1: Parker Moss is a focus on the two picks is

1062
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Speaker 1: that we're gonna give We're gonna give him credit for

1063
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Speaker 1: Parker going up above two guys and making a ridiculous catch. Mean,

1064
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Speaker 1: did anybody say that about ignore like the touchdown to

1065
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Speaker 1: the Nelson Agolo that, yeah, that everybody said that was

1066
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: just a great catch. Okay, I don't remember that or

1067
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: they I don't remember anybody saying that. I remember people

1068
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: saying he actually underthrew it, yeah, or the yeah he

1069
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: threw to Jacobe Meyers. He's great, that's what I remember.

1070
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: You gave him a chance to make a play like, no, no,

1071
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I remember. I just look. Here's here's what Here's what

1072
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: really stinks about the situation is sports doesn't work. You

1073
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: can't have both of them play and see what would

1074
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: have happened. Like the Zappy people will tell you unequivocally

1075
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: that it would have looked better in the last month

1076
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: if Zappy was playing. And the Mac people will tell you,

1077
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: and I'm one of the Mac people that will tell

1078
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: you it wouldn't it wouldn't have looked better with with Zappy,

1079
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: but there's no way of knowing because you can't play

1080
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: him both in the same you know, the same circumstances.

1081
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: But the Bears game was literally two plays. Well, I

1082
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: told me literally, you know that I'm you know, I'm

1083
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: on your side of Yeah, I just like you. You

1084
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: don't have fact that we're still take some calls about

1085
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy is just it's because here's the thing of

1086
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: just because you and I think one thing doesn't mean

1087
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: we're right. That's why would take That's why I would

1088
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: taking calls on I think it's something that we you know,

1089
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: talked about when Bailey's Appy was starting, and that is

1090
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: that I think it's more an indictment on Mac Jones

1091
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: that it is necessarily. I think this last caller saying

1092
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: that they have a franchise quarterback in Bailey's Appy is

1093
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach. But you know how

1094
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: I with you. If you're out on Mac Jones, then

1095
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: then pivot to the next thing, right, you know. That's

1096
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: I think this sort of the general feeling, and I

1097
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: don't necessarily disagree with people that feel like Mac might

1098
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: not be the long term answer, but it's I don't

1099
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: think Bailey's appy is either. I just think it's more

1100
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: the fact that people are out on Mac if that's

1101
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: why this show was great. Though. We had a guy

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00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: call in unequivocally that Mac is going to win a

1103
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, right, and then another guy call in unequivally

1104
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: and say, we have a franchise quarterback because of politics

1105
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: isn't playing And I'm not here to pick on either

1106
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: either one of those calls like that, those are your opinions.

1107
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: They couldn't be further apart. But that's what that's why

1108
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: it's a good show. So how long do you give

1109
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: Max to figure out if he's the car next year?

1110
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: Next year? Yeah, I think after the third year you

1111
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: have to decide on the fifty year option. You have

1112
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: to figure out what that fifth year option, because he's

1113
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: the fifteenth overall pick is not jump change. You know

1114
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be ten plus million dollars in his

1115
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: fifth season. I think Isaiah wins is like ten point

1116
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: five or ten point six and he was picked what

1117
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: twenty third I think in that draft, so fifteenth an

1118
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: hour talking about it a couple of years later, is

1119
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: it more? I mean, is it more for a quarterback.

1120
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: It's more based off of where you were drafted in

1121
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: the order. No, I know, it's like the first three

1122
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: and then the next, Yeah, the tiers of the first round.

1123
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: But I thought position. I thought I had something too.

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00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: It might be a little yeah, it might not. It

1125
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: might not. I think might be. They might be pushing

1126
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty million on that fifth year. And plus you know,

1127
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: at some point, if you really like the guy, you

1128
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: don't wait until fifth year. You want to extend him.

1129
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: That's what I said. After the third year, right, that's

1130
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: when you're gonna have to figure out if you want

1131
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: this guy to be your your guy. Like like Cleveland

1132
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: gave Baker may Field the fift year option, right, that

1133
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: meant they weren't sure and he ultimately didn't make it

1134
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: through the fifth year because they ended up trading him

1135
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: after the fourth year. Um, Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones did

1136
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: not get the fifth year option. He's playing out the

1137
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: string now and they're winning games. But kind of like

1138
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, I mean that's probably are a lot of

1139
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: people are convinced that he's why. Yeah, there's a lot

1140
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: a lot of crap. I'm just like with both well,

1141
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: I guess with Daniel Jones and Mac Jones, it's like,

1142
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: do you give him a pass? Because Daniel Jones has

1143
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: gone through multiple coaches? The same thing with Mac it's

1144
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: like multiple coaches, slash injuries, slash do you give him?

1145
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Do you give a pass there? Do you? I mean?

1146
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I think, does this your account? I can't spend this

1147
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: factor in, Yeah, you can't spend this much time railing

1148
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: against the offensive changes and what they the guys that

1149
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: they inserted to do this and not give him at

1150
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: least some kind of understanding that. Yeah, but you know

1151
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: I also do wonder and stuff. And I don't mean

1152
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: this in any way to to start down the path

1153
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: of like defending Mattichus or giving more map pischers a time,

1154
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: but like, what is the acceptable um, you know, kind

1155
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: of allowance for era for a new play caller. You know,

1156
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: like if you were to bring in, let's say, we

1157
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: promoted Nick Kayley, we've reached it. Yeah, is that I mean?

1158
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like I saw it's

1159
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: funny that you brought that up. I saw in sports

1160
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: on the Sports Hub with Bert Breer. You know, just

1161
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: the possibilities of Nick Kayley being the guy next year,

1162
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. There's something to that because yeah, because

1163
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: he they wanted him to go Vegas and Belichick held

1164
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: him back. He let everybody else go, but he held

1165
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: Nick Kayley back but then didn't give him anything. But

1166
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Speaker 1: didn't give him anything. You're not ready, but I still

1167
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: want you here. And let's also there's something there. He's

1168
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: also coaching the smallest position group on the team. There's

1169
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: only two tight ends on the on the roster, So

1170
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: not only did they not give him more responsibility in

1171
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: terms of play calling or something like that, but he's

1172
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: also just coaching tight ends still and there's only two

1173
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Speaker 1: of them. I mean, everything you're talking about, though, friend,

1174
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Speaker 1: and everything is said about ni Ka, it makes me

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Speaker 1: think that there's a strong chance he's he's gone. That

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Speaker 1: I was fends and he's out, That's what I was

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00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: speaking of gone. I think they're gonna leave without him,

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Speaker 1: all right, Evan and I have to leave to get

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Speaker 1: on the bus. Which time do you have to be

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Speaker 1: in the bus? Well, I was supposed to be twelve thirty,

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Speaker 1: but um so these guys will stay obviously and show

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Speaker 1: like this is how he shows you, Like, do you

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Speaker 1: know who I am? They just she'll show up. I

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Speaker 1: didn't do my picks yet. Yeah, did you give him?

1185
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Speaker 1: We can? Why don't you tweet him to Paul and

1186
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: I'll send him to tweet tweet him. Yeah, you just

1187
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Speaker 1: send me some picks. I'm gonna be Unfortunately, I'm gonna

1188
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: guess that I'm not gonna get the the fifthy little

1189
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Speaker 1: comments that go along with you might Okay, he got

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Speaker 1: but they'll be. It'll it'll give him. Um, So why

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Speaker 1: Just gonna be a lively first hour. I was so,

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Speaker 1: Patriots employees and players that are are going through security.

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Speaker 1: They do that here instead of going to the airport,

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Speaker 1: walking through battle detectives, getting bags checked, all of those,

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Speaker 1: all of those things. Now, when I stopped traveling, pretty

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Speaker 1: much every team had gone to security at the stadium.

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Speaker 1: There are some that still required it to be done

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Speaker 1: at the airport, but that makes it much more difficult.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool because obviously when you're at the stadium,

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Speaker 1: people trickle through on their own time and you get through.

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Speaker 1: There's no real lines. Yeah, and when you do it

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Speaker 1: at the airport, you have six buses when the people

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, yeah, we're bus six right

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Speaker 1: last I know it was it was fun. I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: my one, my one trip this year on the on

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Speaker 1: the team playing the first time. It's flying in style.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's deuced. It's Tamara, it's Paul. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take you here through the last hour until Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: of course, Big game tomorrow night Patriots National Television, the Nightcap.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite game, Paul? Of the of the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: games you usually get him or like, because sometimes you

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Speaker 1: got to manage the food. Yeah. I mean I generally

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Speaker 1: watch a good amount of the Lions game because it's

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Speaker 1: usually sitting around picking at like uh, who is divorce? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, maybe cracking open a coldy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then I almost see none of the Cowboys game

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Speaker 1: because that's usually when we're reading. Yeah. Um, and I

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Speaker 1: depending on like last year, I think the Bills played

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Speaker 1: in the night game. Last year, I want to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that was Yeah, So I want to watch

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Speaker 1: the Bills play because they're the Bills. Um. A lot

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Speaker 1: of times I don't watch the night game at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually just kind of Turkey dow tired too much?

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Speaker 1: Eaton you gotta get you got a big day of leftovers?

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Speaker 1: What are you too? Maryon? What do you you watch

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Speaker 1: football on the Thanksgiving? Is that a college it's no

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Speaker 1: college football? That was there? This is one Oh Chris

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Speaker 1: there it is. UM. It depends. So usually this time

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Speaker 1: of the year, UM, I am in Blacksburg or Charlottes

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Speaker 1: Charlottesville UM for Virginia Tech UVA. UM. Sometimes it is

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Speaker 1: played today or not today, but on Thanksgiving Day or

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Speaker 1: Black Friday. UM. But this year that's not happening because

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Speaker 1: of everything that's that happened in Charlottesville. So the decision

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Speaker 1: yeah hard. It's hard to like take a rivalry game

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Speaker 1: where you're like, let's go kill yeah. Yeah. So I

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Speaker 1: feel like this year, UM, they made the right call

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Speaker 1: to cancel the game because I feel like that's like

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Speaker 1: usually my favorite game, look forward to it all year,

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Speaker 1: and emotions are high and just it just feels different.

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Speaker 1: College game rivalry games of the Best. Actually went up

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Speaker 1: gonna win this weekending? You know, Michigan huse State. He

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Speaker 1: was like, you already knew the answer. I was like, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: if I go ask ray Kwon McMillan the same question,

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Speaker 1: had the varsity Michigan Varsity gackt on yesterday. Yeah, Evans,

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Speaker 1: because some of the best some of the best interactions

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Speaker 1: with players are over those college games. Yeah. Um you

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Speaker 1: David Gibbons was guilty of an incredibly premature celebration coming

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Speaker 1: their little, you know, handheld TVs and whatnot, and he

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Speaker 1: went absolutely crazy on the play before when they went

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Speaker 1: and calm as can be when they knocked Matt Leinart

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Speaker 1: stuff is like the most memorable. And then like you'll say,

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Speaker 1: I mean one year Damon Hugh had made Drew where

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Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that happens all the time, and

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Speaker 1: they take it pretty seriously. And I would imagine the

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Speaker 1: Michigan Ohio State one. I'm actually looking forward. This is

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Speaker 1: like the first Saturday that I don't have anything to do,

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Speaker 1: but my nephew's done, my son's done. With the games

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Speaker 1: on Saturday Mornings with JV, I might and I think

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Speaker 1: the hun Down Saturday that both undefeated, Ya gonna be great? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that and Michigan. Um, they haven't won recently though,

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Speaker 1: have they have? They haven't beaten last year. That was

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Speaker 1: the first time of him. Last year, that was the

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Speaker 1: first time Harball, Harball beat him, I think too. Um

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Speaker 1: my favorite, I think my favorite game that I've watched

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Speaker 1: on Robberry Weekend is Auburn Alabama. The kick kick six

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Speaker 1: was on Black Friday. I believe, yes, and we went

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Speaker 1: absolutely admit I think it was Black Friday, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: totally with you. That probably a missfield goal. They ran back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like a fifty something yard field goal and

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Speaker 1: they had the guy back and he returned it. There

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Speaker 1: was about seventeen blocks in the back and they just

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Speaker 1: let it all go. It was unbelievable just watching Alabama

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Speaker 1: lose is always worth it for me. Yeah, I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of that this year. Well let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: let's jump to the phones here we got h oh,

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Speaker 1: what about you? I'll get to that after Nat from

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Speaker 1: Santa Cruz and that. What's going on? Hey, hey, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say, first off, I'm thankful for this

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Speaker 1: iteration of Patriots from filter. Oh thanks Nat, appreciate Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been really cool. So I was gonna have a

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Speaker 1: mac Bailey thought and ripping on short yardage, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay positive for the holiday weekend. Um. My question

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Speaker 1: is of the teams that are playing on Thanksgiving, Um,

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Speaker 1: what are the outside of the Patriots? What are the

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Speaker 1: guys that you just like to watch on those other teams?

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm I like Dak and the and Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just curious for you. For you all, that's

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Speaker 1: a fun that's a good that's a good pre thanks

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Speaker 1: you eving kind of question. People won't like mine. Oh

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Speaker 1: well I'll say it for you. I mean I like

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Speaker 1: watching Josh, I like watching sorry not sorry, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's a little banged up. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're going to get the full Josh Allen. But I

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Speaker 1: like watching Josh Allen play. I mean m Michael Parsons lately.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is a guy. Like watching guys who every

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Speaker 1: snap could change the game in an instant. Um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll go the opposite way. They'll Paula make fun of

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Speaker 1: me for this. They'll probably be good. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like watching my homes He just annoys me. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's amazing, Like I think he's awesome. I think

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Speaker 1: watching him just annoys me. When I don't like about

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Speaker 1: those guys is when they get so good that even

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Speaker 1: their bad plays are considered good. Like you know, like

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Speaker 1: he's just a competitive competitor. He's just trying to make

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Speaker 1: a pot. Like no, sometimes they make mistakes. But that

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Speaker 1: was like the human to throw in the the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Mahomesby or it was like a completion, but he was

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Speaker 1: like vertical, you know, it's horizontal to the ground when

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Speaker 1: he threw it, and everyone's, uh, you know, going crazy

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Speaker 1: for it. But I don't know. He he annoys me.

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Speaker 1: His voice annoys me. Every time he's press conferences. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm like I have to meet it every time. So

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Speaker 1: we're doing the TV one right, we're on We're on

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Speaker 1: YouTube today, So I like the this. He's a very

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Speaker 1: quirky guy. Mahomes and uh, you know he does the

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Speaker 1: with his head to the side, that guy. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever noticed this? I mean serious, have you ever noticed this?

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Speaker 1: Like he wants them to huddle up. A lot of

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: guys will do the huddle up and they'll they'll clench

1466
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: their hands together. He like tells us receivers to come here,

1467
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: and his head goes down kind of doing like I

1468
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't look at this. I'm telling you. He

1469
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: has a funny walk too. He has a lot of

1470
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: little quirks. But I love watching I can't know and

1471
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: I and I like And I say that as somebody

1472
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: who respects him and thinks he's an excellent I mean,

1473
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I think they're probably the best team in the league

1474
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: right now. And you know all that. Like, I'm not

1475
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: saying he's a bad court it's just you know, one

1476
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: of those guys were like, I don't like his look,

1477
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: I don't like how he walks, and you're like, he's amazing,

1478
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: but he just annoys me. So but I also think

1479
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: that he's a pretty good teammate. Yeah, like he's not

1480
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers. Like Aaron Rodgers, I can understand why

1481
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: people's eye hate watching that guy play. Incredibly gifted. You

1482
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: could make a really strong argument that no one's ever

1483
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: been in that league that throws the ball like like

1484
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I agree, no one has the quote arm

1485
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: talent that Aaron Rodgers as. I hate watching him play. Yeah, yeah,

1486
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean I remember seeing Aaron Rodgers do this drill um.

1487
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like behind the scenes Packers thing,

1488
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: but it's like almost like you just kind of bend

1489
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: over and you have the ball in between your legs

1490
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: and you just kind of switch hands with it real quick,

1491
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: and the coaches were just saying they're like, no one

1492
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: could ever do it as fast as Aaron Rodgers can.

1493
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: Like he's just he's just such a phenomenal athlete. And

1494
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: I think when people give like Brady crap about like, oh,

1495
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: he's not that athletic, you know, I know, he's an

1496
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: a foal, but like Aaron Rodgers is like the epitome

1497
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: of an athletic quarterback, and Rady's natural athlete to the core,

1498
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: because if you you do use those like traditional athletic traits,

1499
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, speed, you know, strength, jumping ability,

1500
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff. He probably doesn't. But

1501
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 1: this is a guy who was drafted in Major League Baseball,

1502
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: right became the greatest quarterback ever to play. Not a

1503
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: lot of like unathletic quarterbacks were the best who ever play,

1504
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's kind of things that

1505
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: don't well, it speaks to the quarterback position too, where

1506
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, decision making and an arm which you know

1507
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: doesn't like it's hard to see a guy who hey,

1508
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: that guy looks like he has a great arm just

1509
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: walking down the street. You know. It's like you watch

1510
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: the Edelman thing, Yeah I did, I did. I watched.

1511
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: But that's a good thing to bring up. Yeah, okay,

1512
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: So when there's there's a little interaction and the Julian

1513
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 1: Edelman Football Life is going to debut Friday night. Friday night, Um,

1514
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: so that'll be on NFL network and obviously Patriots fans

1515
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: will be interested in that. Um there's an interaction with

1516
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: a young Edelman with Brady and Brady's telling him about

1517
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: how to run a certain route. That to me, to

1518
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: me is ten ten or fifteen second sound bite into

1519
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: why Tom Brady is the greatest of all time, and

1520
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: that's not It was that the one time, don't lean,

1521
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: don't lean, don't you lean, You're just leverage. Yeah, and

1522
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't have any idea what the route is.

1523
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea what the context is. But

1524
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: the subtlety of what he's talking about to me made

1525
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: total sense. And the clip they showed and Tom loser

1526
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: too much turkey, too much turkey already, She's tired. No,

1527
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: But I just thought that that sort of was a

1528
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: window into Tom's like knowledge. Yeah, a lot of a

1529
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: lot of great stuff. They sent us a screener for it,

1530
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: so definitely, you know, I eat that stuff up. And

1531
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: and any time that they break out new Bill yelling

1532
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: at guys in practice, I'm all in on that. Yeah.

1533
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to talk to Matt about it. I

1534
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: assumed that we provided that footage with him. You know, Adelman,

1535
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: what do you dope? Edeman? I can't figure you out.

1536
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: But there's a really interesting moment, which you know, I

1537
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: think also illustrates some of Bill and Edelman was saying

1538
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: his first interaction with Bill was he was returning punts

1539
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: and Bill came over and I'm not gonna get the

1540
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: word it's exactly right, if that's unbelievable. But essentially, Peel's like,

1541
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: if it's a right footed punter and the ball's rotating backwards,

1542
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be short and to the left. And

1543
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: if it's a left foot punter and it's come an

1544
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: end over end, it's gonna be long into the right.

1545
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: Like you messed it up a little bit, but like

1546
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: that's the level of jail, the level if the ball.

1547
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: If the ball, if it's a right footed punter and

1548
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: the ball doesn't turn over, it's gonna come down short

1549
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: to the right or to the left, do you know whatever?

1550
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: And if it's and if it does turn over, you

1551
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be long into the other side. And

1552
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: he said, you don't catch punts with your hands, you

1553
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: catch punts with your feet. Like that to me was like, huh, right.

1554
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: And that's his first interaction with Bill Belichick as he

1555
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: gets that's what I said, you know, that's the first

1556
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: he never really spoke it to Bill China. I mean,

1557
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's a cool episode. I mean, I think

1558
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody by this point knows Edelman and his dad have

1559
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: a really special bond and it still gets me every

1560
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: single time when you see Edelman up at the podium

1561
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: looking down of his dad and saying, we did it.

1562
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: We did it dad, you know, and I mean as

1563
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, as a father, all that YadA YadA, YadA,

1564
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: but um, just how close they were and how you know,

1565
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: even I mean Edelman's dad gets choked up talking about

1566
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: when Jules just couldn't do it anymore and tired when

1567
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: he retired called him and you know, basically wanted the

1568
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: wanted the I think they wanted the okay from the

1569
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: old man. Um. You know. So there's just just a

1570
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: really cool relationship between them. Um, so many great moments

1571
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: talking about what we're get in trouble for, like telling

1572
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: the whole entire story. We'll leave it that Friday night.

1573
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: That'll check it out. I'll do a little right up

1574
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: to it. Is some of the you know, the moments

1575
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: that kind of stood out to me. But lots of

1576
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: lots of good stuff with with Jules as as always.

1577
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: And man, it was just tough watching too some of

1578
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 1: the highlights from twenty twenty and just looking at him

1579
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: and see it. Man, he just he was at the end.

1580
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no question he was struggling there. Uh,

1581
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: let's go to Sean and Vancouver. Hey, Sean, how are

1582
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: you great? Great Mike, I have a couple of things.

1583
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: Um about that. The thing about the Vikings you brought

1584
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: up earlier. I think I have an explanation, even though

1585
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: it's it's careful, I'm looking for an explanation. I'm just wanting.

1586
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for Snart. I know it's it's hard.

1587
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to believe I'm not looking for Snart.

1588
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I can get the data point for tomorrow. Well,

1589
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's not that significant. Basically, what they're

1590
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 1: trying to say is late in the games, close games,

1591
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings let up a bit, and there's four games

1592
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: where they want but they had leads, and the leads

1593
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: were eaten into a bit like Week three against the Lions,

1594
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: Week four against Saint Week five against the Vikings. In

1595
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: Week eight against the Cards, they want all of them,

1596
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: but the other teams came back towards the end. I

1597
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: don't think that's accurate getting that. I think that the

1598
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: Vikings were down ten in the fourth quarter against Detroit

1599
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: Well and against against the Lions are up twenty eight

1600
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: to fourteen and the third and then then they won

1601
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Okay, well, oh all right, there's twenty Yeah,

1602
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: if that's I mean, if that's accurate, then that's that's bad.

1603
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 1: That's bad close and late. I don't I think it's accurate,

1604
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: bad Caddy, but it's yeah. And then there's other post

1605
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: games that they want that that don't really follow that suit.

1606
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: But it's not a big deal. I'm appreciate you got

1607
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: this to quit. Yeah. The question I have is Evans

1608
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 1: has been talking about mac Wilson being the spine. I

1609
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: really like that. But I noticed against the Jets and

1610
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: the first Jets drive Zack Wilson scrambled a bit. He had,

1611
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: like one scramble that went for a first down. Was

1612
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: mac Wilson not on the field, And because I didn't

1613
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: notice him there, maybe they put in him later. I

1614
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: do not recall. I'm not sure, but I think, I mean,

1615
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: I think they've been using him a little bit. I mean,

1616
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of those guys like the new

1617
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: guys on defense, but I think enough to give him

1618
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: a little bit different twist. It's a great role for him. Yeah,

1619
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: he's been better. I mean and now we'll see how

1620
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: he does against Josh Allen. I mean, I think the

1621
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Ravens have a Detroit was leading twenty four to fourteen

1622
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter of that game against the Vikings. Okay,

1623
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: that's one. All right, I'm gonna do a deep dive

1624
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: on this, Paul. The Vikings outscored him fourteen to nothing

1625
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. When you get in tomorrow for

1626
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: the People show, don't you worry. I'll good they came up.

1627
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: It came a little earlier. Cool, all right, thanks, Sean,

1628
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it earlier listens. Yeah, Now, I'm like looking through

1629
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: all their scores. It's not it's not that hard. Sometimes

1630
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: you get something wrong and say, oh I was wrong. Yeah,

1631
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: they outscored him fourteen to nothing in the fourth quarter.

1632
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: There was no earlier or later like lay close. They

1633
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: outscored the other team fourteen to nothing in that game. Now,

1634
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: that might be the only game. Every other game they

1635
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: may have blown a lead and that's why it was close. Yeah,

1636
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case, but that could have been.

1637
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: But in that particular game, I remember Dan Campbell went

1638
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: for it up ten in the fourth quarter in his

1639
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: own territory, remember that. That's why. That's why it out

1640
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: after he cried after that one, probably it's head down

1641
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: to Roady, Neil and Warwick. What's going on new Hey? Hey,

1642
01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: you guys do it good? Good? So question. I know

1643
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: we're in the Vikings week, but a couple of weeks

1644
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: ago when he played the Cold, why didn't they play

1645
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: I know they play Sam ellen Ger, but why didn't

1646
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: they play Nick Foles? He's like the Kryptina for the Patriots.

1647
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: Second of all, before I head off, I have to

1648
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: go back to work. What do you guys think about

1649
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: the Ohio State game on Saturday? Go back eyes? Oh,

1650
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: he got that one in. I think Ohio State will

1651
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: probably bounce back. And when they were in Batrass last year,

1652
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: the Colts thing to me, I have no knowledge on this.

1653
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: I think that the reason why Frank Reich is no

1654
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: longer the Colts coaches because he refused to dump and

1655
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: I think they wanted them to dump. And I think

1656
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: that's part of why. I think he pushed back and

1657
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: I don't think they liked it. And then they went

1658
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: and got Jeff Saturday and just Saturday say well, I'll

1659
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: do this for you, but I'm playing I'm playing the

1660
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: guys that I want to play that. I mean, again,

1661
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: I have no reason to know that that's fact. That's

1662
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: just my opinion from afar. Like a week earlier, Jim

1663
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: Say said Chris and Frank are a big part of

1664
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: our future. The next week he got fired. And I

1665
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: think it's because Frank Reich said, screw you, I ain't

1666
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: doing this for you. Yeah. I like it, Paul, I mean,

1667
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: and it fits like Erse too. I mean, it's just

1668
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: it feels like they would reach a point where they say,

1669
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: we can't keep just signing a veteran quarterback off the

1670
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: scrap heap every year. We have to suck for a

1671
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: year and try to get a quarterback, you know, in

1672
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: the top ten. And I think that they said, rather

1673
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: than play Nick Foles, that doesn't do us any good

1674
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: because that's just another one of these guys we're spinning

1675
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: our wheels with. We need to find out can this

1676
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: kid can he play? And if if he can play,

1677
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: then maybe that's the guy we go forward with. And

1678
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: if he can't, we gotta figure out how we're going

1679
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback next year. Clearly he can't play. Yeah,

1680
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: Like I know, it's I know, it's unfair after two

1681
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: games to say a guy can't play, but that guy's overmatched. Yeah,

1682
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: he was completely overmatched. Did you really need to see

1683
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: him for two games? That's the question, you know, like,

1684
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: like you really he wasn't terrible terrible in the first game,

1685
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: like he wasn't the second game. But part of that

1686
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: is because the Patriots defense was so good. Yeah, you know,

1687
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard for me now with Mac to

1688
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: to just see these teams that that get quarterbacks in

1689
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: the mid rounds that end up being great, like a

1690
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Like how how does that happen? Like you're

1691
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: just so all over quarterbacks because it really doesn't. Yeah, right,

1692
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: like Prescott and Russell Wilson. I'm brady at the end

1693
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: of the list. But I also think that they had

1694
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: just had a different skill set than back too, like

1695
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: both Prescott. That's why I would have been interested with

1696
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: some of those guys, you know, not our buddy Matis

1697
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: loved Malik Willis. Yeah, last year third round pick. But

1698
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: to Tamara's point, totally different athletic skill set than Kirk Cousins,

1699
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: who was a fourth round pick. Yeah, you know, how

1700
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: do we feel about about Tannehill, Like I feel like

1701
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: he's one of those Hills, an athletic guy. Yeah, like

1702
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: he's He's just interesting to me because I think Tannehill

1703
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver in Texas. Yeah yeah, and he

1704
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: can run like the wind. You don't really think of

1705
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: that though, And I mean, I think he gets lumped

1706
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: into like these kind of quarterbacks that he maybe doesn't

1707
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: necessarily fit with, guys like Kirk Cousins and Mac. I mean,

1708
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: you mentioned the athleticism, but I don't know. He's playing.

1709
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: He's playing really good right now. So just one of

1710
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: those weird things, hard to find a quarterback. Let's head

1711
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: over to the emails here, they're stacking up Mancha Rizza,

1712
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I will This one comes from Brendan and Edmonton. With

1713
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: all due respect to Thanksgiving, we're onto Christmas. Thank you

1714
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: appreciate the Joe Judge reference. I wonder if we'll get

1715
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: one of one of those today or tomorrow. Has Bill

1716
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: has Belichick ever been more right about the season doesn't

1717
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: start until after Thanksgiving? Now, if the Patriots win tomorrow,

1718
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: will that be true? Or if they lose, can we

1719
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: say technically it wasn't that to Thanksgiving? Well, I guess

1720
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: it depends on when after you eat right, you better

1721
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: hope that he's not. You better hope that they break

1722
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: from that pattern because they haven't played well late in

1723
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: the year in a long time. Yeah, it's so true.

1724
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a big element. I think it's

1725
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: hanging over this whole team. I mean, I'm not going

1726
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: to go and ask any of the defensive guys that question,

1727
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just it's got a it's gotta linger,

1728
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: and it's just the quality of play and and and

1729
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: how drastic the results were, especially on his question, do

1730
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you think they've played better in the last like three

1731
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: games and they didn't any one? Hard to say? Hard

1732
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: to say, I can't blown on the table four. Like,

1733
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: I know, they've won whatever it is, four out of

1734
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: five or five out of five out of six, I

1735
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, but I don't think they've played

1736
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: all that five out of six they've won. But I

1737
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: mean I don't think they played any better or against

1738
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: like indeed than they did against Green Bay. Yeah, I mean,

1739
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: it's part of me feels like I just purposely had

1740
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: the blinders on because until they play Buffalo, I feel

1741
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: like that's the only truth I'm gonna get and no,

1742
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: and especially with like what I talked about earlier, like

1743
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: they blow out bad teams, like this is what they do.

1744
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: They feast on those teams, and we've just been seeing

1745
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: it for so long. It's like I haven't really even

1746
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: blown them. That's the thing that worries you, Like, well,

1747
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: it's ten three, it's twenty two seventeen. But I would

1748
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: say at least on the defensive side of the ball,

1749
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: they blew the jet, they hold, they hold they yeah,

1750
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: they hold those teams in check, you know. But I

1751
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: thought this was kind of interesting. I printed this out,

1752
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: I think, um Boston Sports Information tweeted it out. Just

1753
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. Um just basically breaks down how

1754
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: the defense has done against each of these quarterbacks that

1755
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: they've faced, what the passer rating was against the Patriots,

1756
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and then what the passer rating has been against other teams,

1757
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: which I don't really care. I saw this, I don't

1758
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 1: really care about. I thought it was I thought it

1759
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: was interesting. I mean I think the big one was,

1760
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson is the only one who who

1761
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: way overperformed um, you know against the Patriots defense was

1762
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: just you know, lights out where he's you know, been

1763
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the middle of terms of

1764
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: just the passer rating stuff. But um, you know, I

1765
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: thought Alinger, I mean, who cares? You know, well, that's

1766
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of my point, right minus fifty four point five

1767
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: passer raiders. So he he played two games, he was

1768
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: reasonably efficient in one and terrible in the others. Like,

1769
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: is that's a bad example. What was to Da Da

1770
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Dada two was sixteen point two passer raider differential. So

1771
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: they the Patriots allowed him to go twenty three to

1772
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: thirty three sixty nine point seven completion percentage, you know,

1773
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: through a touchdown, and then overall he's been a seventy

1774
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: one point two percent passer with a one twenty rating,

1775
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns, thirteen three interceptions. I mean, sorry, guys, but

1776
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: TWA is playing lights out Aaron Rodgers justin Field's kind

1777
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: of right on their average. But you know, just a

1778
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit of context. But again, it doesn't really matter,

1779
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: like until you go against Josh Allen and maybe wow,

1780
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: we had something like it does I mean, they don't

1781
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: have to beat him, they don't have to shut them down,

1782
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: they don't have to hold them under twenty points like

1783
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: they just have to show that they have some fight

1784
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: and that they can force him into I think I

1785
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: think what's interesting about the Bills. Obviously Josh Allen's great,

1786
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: but their defense has so many hurt people. They do

1787
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: like they're people that are literally not going to play tomorrow.

1788
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: And that's and that's a big point towards Minnesota. When

1789
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: they're talking about Minnesota beating Buffalo, it's like they had

1790
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: four starters and they're setting very out and the part

1791
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: that are literally not playing tomorrow. So it's like it's

1792
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. And that's one to me that

1793
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: that I'll be interested in. For Boston sports imp, who

1794
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: does a lot of really good stuff on Twitter. Yeah,

1795
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: that's worth a follow, by the way, for any any

1796
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: local sports fans, any Boston sports fans. He does a

1797
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: great job of cultivating that kind of stuff. But what

1798
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have any real interesting I like, I don't

1799
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: care what like Zach Wilson does against every other team,

1800
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: but like I'll be I'll be interested in comparing like

1801
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who threw two picks and had like a

1802
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: seventy five rating against Buffalo. I'll be curious to see

1803
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: what he does against the Patriots. Is it better than that?

1804
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: Is it worse than that? Is it the same? Do

1805
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I don't care what

1806
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins did against Chicago because I don't care what

1807
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: Chicago does, you know, So like it's not to me.

1808
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: It's the teams that I'm fighting with, you know, Like

1809
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: how did Kirk Cousins do against Miami? How did he

1810
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: do against Buffalo? Not so good? You know? So he

1811
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: maybe he ripped up green Bay because green Bay stinks,

1812
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: you know. But that's kind of where I and it's hard,

1813
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to ask him, like, hey, can

1814
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: you cipher through all of the different scenarios, Like you're

1815
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: just giving him the he's given you the numbers. The

1816
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Patriots have performed better defensively against these guys than those

1817
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: guys have generally performed against everybody else. Yeah, the Patriots

1818
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: have held them down further. That's the point that Boston

1819
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Sports Infant is trying to make. And that's a fact. Yeah,

1820
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: those are numbers, yeah and that. But I think the

1821
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: reason it doesn't move the needle as much is because, yeah,

1822
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: that's what would be a kind of scene for the

1823
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: last few years when they play a team that they're

1824
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 1: better than, they really really put the clamps down and

1825
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: the scoreboard ends up looking, you know, even worse. If

1826
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Let's say Josh Allen has a regular game

1827
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, not ripping it up just like throw

1828
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: us for two hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns,

1829
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: no picks is the Jets defense? Does that show you

1830
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the Jets defense is better because they shut him down?

1831
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Like no, it's like one game. Yeah, it's it's it's

1832
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting debate. And even as much as I

1833
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: respect the weapons, and I you know, I do have

1834
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,759
Speaker 1: respect for Kirk Cousins and respect the weapons backed him,

1835
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I still don't know how much I'm gonna pound the

1836
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: table if the Patriots go out there and just absolutely

1837
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: confound him and you can see him too, right, like

1838
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: if like, um, you were talking about all the sacks

1839
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that Dallas had Tamarrow in that game last week, seven sacks,

1840
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Like I can sit here and tell you what Kirk

1841
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 1: Cousins wasn't ready to play. He get sacks seven times,

1842
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: like Mac the other day, you getting sacks six times? Right?

1843
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of how much of a real

1844
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: chance did Kirk Cousins having that game, if that's what

1845
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots due, and they just completely like, I'm not

1846
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, Jonathan Jones really took Justin Jefferson out. No,

1847
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was running for his life. Yeah, you know,

1848
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: you can kind of see it when you watch and

1849
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, secondary is pretty good, Adam feeling. Yeah,

1850
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: kJ Osborne t J Hawkinson with with Jefferson Dalvin Cook

1851
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: out of the backfield and he had some time to

1852
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: throw and you shut him down. Yeah, you know. Or

1853
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: the past rush is legit doesn't matter like they're gonna

1854
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: get They're gonna get after these guys. I think if

1855
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: I was in front of my computer right now, I

1856
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: would we'll be looking up sacks on Justin on Josh

1857
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: Allen because when you wrote Paul this week in the

1858
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: notes about the Patriots pass rush, pressure kind of leading

1859
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: the way. And I think the problem with Josh Allen

1860
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: is like he's so good at getting away and he's

1861
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: so hard to get that it almost negates the Patriots

1862
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: pass rush to a degree. And then you start to see,

1863
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: all right, they formed the perfect pocket and he's just

1864
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 1: standing in there, and I think he's at the point

1865
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: now where he's not going to make as many of

1866
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: those mistakes. He certainly hasn't in the last few games.

1867
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to continue. I think he's kind

1868
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: of in a little bit of a rut right now,

1869
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: and I pray against all hope that, like the Patriots defense,

1870
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: is what he needs to get right, because clearly he's

1871
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: been great against them. For a proverbial get right game

1872
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: that he wasn't changes the question against I think he

1873
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: threw two picks in three straight games. Until last week

1874
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: he didn't have any. But who knows, Maybe that elbow

1875
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: was really bugging him. It's possible he didn't practice much

1876
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah again, and he's got to go right again.

1877
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Did they even just stay in Detroit? They didn't, They

1878
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: came back. He I guess McDermott wanted the guys to

1879
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: get back. I thought it was I thought it was

1880
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: kind of an odd decision. I would have made sense

1881
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: to me to stay there. Quick flight. It is a

1882
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: quick flight. Rick and Louisville writes in He's got a

1883
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: way in on what he says that there's one player

1884
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: that is the best at his position, but it's also

1885
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: easily the biggest douche on the field. Travis Kelsey, Kelsey

1886
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: there he is, has ricks Rick coming in. I just

1887
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: thought best player right his position, but kind of a douche.

1888
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: I would put Travis Kelsey in that category. Yeah, I

1889
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: put Digs in there too. I don't. I just don't

1890
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: like Diggs. I don't know, he's just that's just because

1891
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: of the TV plays beards. I love Josh Allen. I'm

1892
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: all about the Josh Allen. I don't know. Um there

1893
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: we go, um oh Sean Sean Road and Paul just said,

1894
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was wrong about the Lions game. I

1895
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: looked at it backwards. Does that sense to you? Yeah,

1896
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: it does make sense to me. And that's like, that's

1897
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: why I'm trying to reconcile the whole. They're terrible close

1898
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: and late thing with every win, like literally seven out

1899
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: of their eight wins is a one score game, Like

1900
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: how bad could they have played down the stretching close

1901
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,440
Speaker 1: in late games and having won seven times in that situation,

1902
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: and the losses weren't close, so you know what I mean,

1903
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Like they lost twenty four to seven and forty to three,

1904
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: so it's not like they blue games that were close late.

1905
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I feel like like I I can't. Yeah, I'm just

1906
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how does that work? Coming hot

1907
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow and hopefully I'll have some some kind of answer

1908
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: and he'll drive Hardy crazy. W'd be that? That'd be

1909
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: beautiful great? I lift to do that. We could we

1910
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: could spend fifteen minutes talking about Jaws, and then we

1911
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: can we could segue right into the close and late

1912
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: for the vikings and that his head will explode. I

1913
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: was trying to think right now of a thing. Are

1914
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: there any Why aren't there any Thanksgiving movies other than

1915
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: plane Strains Automobiles? Right? Is that the only one that

1916
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: trying to get home for Thanksgiving? Like they weren't really? Yeah,

1917
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: and it does seem like there's a lot of movies

1918
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: that kind of center around fa getting together for Thanksgiving,

1919
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: but never it's not really about Thanksgiving, no please. Trains

1920
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: Animals is classic, though, if those pillows, it's a great one.

1921
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: How do they know where we're going? Alex from Rowley, Hey, guys,

1922
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 1: a big fan of the show, was wondering how you

1923
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: think we best to address covering Justin Jefferson in Thursday's game.

1924
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I know Jack Jones or Jonathan Jones is going to

1925
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: completely cover Jettas and told and hold him to nothing.

1926
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: Is Jettas? Who's Jettas? Is that a nickname for somebody

1927
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: jestin Jeffers nicknames Jetas. I don't know sure, but I

1928
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: feel like we don't allow him to have an ungodly type.

1929
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 1: We should be able to stay competitive. I don't know,

1930
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of hit or miss Jefferson. Yeah, like he

1931
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: had thirty three yards last week. He had a couple

1932
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: of games earlier in the year. But you know, you

1933
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: look at his numbers for the season, they're outstanding, fifteen

1934
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: point two, crazy average per catch. He's been a full

1935
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: participant this week, so I mean, I expect he'll be okay.

1936
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm interested in in Dalvin Tomlinson. They're big

1937
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Was a guy that I kind of liked here.

1938
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: They went with Godshaw that year. But I mean, just

1939
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, big stout guy in the middle. That might

1940
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: be an interesting one. Um. I think the big play

1941
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: scare me in this game, like a big score you'll

1942
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: let Delvin play away to you know, you get an

1943
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: easy one place score, those kind of things. I mean,

1944
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: it's just such a narrow edge for the Patriots, like

1945
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 1: one play changed the game. You know, you toss it up.

1946
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: He owe, Justin Jefferson's totally blanketed, and you know he

1947
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: just sticks up a pinky and catches the ball like

1948
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: lands on his pinky. Cook scares me more than Justin Jefferson.

1949
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: And that's interesting. That's interesting. Could I mean? No, I mean,

1950
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I do think the big place worry me because I

1951
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: think if it's regular Patriots defense and they make them

1952
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 1: go eight or ten plays, I think they'll get pressure

1953
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: often enough to disrupt the drive. But if it's big plays,

1954
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: then obviously all it takes is one. That was the

1955
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: fear on the Jets game, Like you're dominating this team

1956
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: and all it takes is one guy to slip or

1957
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: break a tackle and all of a sudden they get

1958
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: points and you lose. That's why I think it's dangerous

1959
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: to play that way. Yeah, and I know they didn't

1960
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: play that way on purpose. I'm just saying. A couple

1961
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: of people have written in about the Tom Tom Brady

1962
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: Let's Go podcast. This one's from Suliman in the Bay Area.

1963
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,480
Speaker 1: Just said in the reason one of his recent episodes,

1964
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: he talked about Belichick preaching that winning a game is

1965
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: more of not losing it. It's it's something we hear

1966
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: a lot, and yeah, I mean it's um, you know,

1967
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: doing the simple things, tackling, blocking, kicking, being mistake free,

1968
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: you'll tend to win more times than not. I think

1969
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: these last couple of seasons to prove that to me,

1970
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: like not more than anything. It's always been true for

1971
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. They've always sort of allowed you to

1972
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: beat yourself, been more than happy to say you go

1973
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: and be reckless, you know, go throw the ball into

1974
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: harm's way, and we'll take advantage of that. Bill and Vista, California.

1975
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: He asked about the Edelman Um documentary. He just said,

1976
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: the first question I have is if these documentaries usually

1977
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: interest you, the second being what players would you like

1978
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: to see featured? That's a good question. They do usually

1979
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: interest me. I don't watch all them non Patriot I mean,

1980
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: I definitely watch all the Patriot ones, but I UM,

1981
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I like a well done documentary, especially if it's you know,

1982
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: like I don't need to have like a you know,

1983
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 1: a four part series on you know, Tom Petty. I

1984
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: have done one of those. I did watch the Eagles

1985
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: document so two parts. That was pretty good. I kind

1986
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: of like documentaries. Um, but yeah, pretty much any point

1987
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: I like, Um, I don't know, Mike, you would just

1988
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: kind of a blogger and didn't really go to journalism school.

1989
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. But they always they always teach

1990
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: you like when you're when you're writing, when you're a writer,

1991
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: and everybody has a story. So like we used to

1992
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: have used to have all kinds of exercises we would do,

1993
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: like the person sitting next to you was charged, like

1994
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: you had to write a story. I had to write

1995
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 1: a story, and Tamara, Tamara had to write a story

1996
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: on me. So I'm interviewing Tamara to find out her

1997
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: life story. Like everybody has an interesting story. No one

1998
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: came from nothing, like everybody came from something, And the

1999
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: trick is, how do you make that story come to life?

2000
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: How do you make it interesting? Even if there's not

2001
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: really a lot of there there, how do you make

2002
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: it interesting? I'm interested in pretty much any of those

2003
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: player documentaries. I don't think there was anywhere near as

2004
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: well done now as they were when they first started them. Yeah,

2005
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: like some of the old players that you know, Roger Staubach, mean,

2006
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 1: Joe Green, some of those Football Lifes were really really

2007
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: well done. Now it's just like kind of mass produced,

2008
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 1: very formulaic. And as much as I liked Edelman and

2009
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: I love Edelman, I you know, I'm like I kind

2010
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 1: of knew most of this stuff, like but we do,

2011
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: but not like nationwide, like you don't know all the

2012
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,879
Speaker 1: stories and you don't know Bill saying, you know, Adelman,

2013
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: I can't figure you out at you know like that.

2014
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard for me to top the first

2015
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: one that build it. And you know, like for me

2016
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: just getting to listen to him talk to the team.

2017
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: I just like that's I just found that those football

2018
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: life that he didn't in oh nine, Yeah that's the

2019
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: one you liked. Ye Oh, I loved it. I love

2020
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that one is I'm guilty of im too, you were.

2021
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean really I am in it. I appear and

2022
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: I appear in that one a couple of time. But

2023
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I would I would literally single

2024
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: out the interactions with him and Brady. Literally everything I

2025
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: was interested in that season was left on the cutting

2026
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: room floor or ignored. Yeah, the true drama. Why can't

2027
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: you get this team to play for you? I mean,

2028
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: I do obviously think it's crazy that, you know, the

2029
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: one season they chose to do a two parter or Bill,

2030
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: it's like maybe one of the worst things they had. Um,

2031
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 1: I'll bet you Bill would tell you in totality that

2032
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: was one of the three worst seasons that they had

2033
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs. I'll bet you Heat liked

2034
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: the O eight season better than the O nine season. Sure, yeah, well,

2035
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we know, we know why, look what I

2036
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 1: can do. But like I was gonna say, it's listening

2037
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: to him talk to the team because you just you

2038
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: get so used to hearing nothing, nothing from them. You

2039
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: know that it's not like that all the time, right,

2040
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: that's your valid, actual motivation, and you know the buttons

2041
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: he's trying to push for this team and what makes

2042
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: him a good coach. Um. I And then the talking

2043
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 1: with Brady and talking about Ed Reid, and I have

2044
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: to admit that Ed Reid stuff was a little bit uncomfortable.

2045
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: When when you talk about how much he love you

2046
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: just see his eyes light up and he's like harassing

2047
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Edreid on the sideline before the game, like, oh, but

2048
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: you're the best free safety in football, and he's like,

2049
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: coach is getting weird. Get away from me. But all right,

2050
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: we only got about twenty minutes left, so we gotta hurry.

2051
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: That means it's time for picks. Paul tell us what

2052
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: happened last week? Okay, last week? It's a shane that

2053
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: he's not here to actually enjoy it. Fred Fred eleven

2054
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: and three, he's back, followed by Mike, Alex and Paul

2055
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 1: at ten and four, Evan eight and six with the spread.

2056
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: No surprise here, Paul nine and five, U Fred eight

2057
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,799
Speaker 1: and six. So good week for Fred, Alex seven and seven,

2058
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Evan and Mike six and eight. YEA season standings. I

2059
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: m maintained my one game lead over Mike. I'm one

2060
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,799
Speaker 1: hund sixty three and one. Mike is ninety nine, sixty

2061
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: four and one, Fred is ninety two, seventy one and one,

2062
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Alex sixty three and forty two, Evan seventy one and

2063
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: forty five. Uh with the spread, I am ninety eight

2064
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 1: sixty three and three, Mike is eighty one eighty and three,

2065
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: Fred is sixty seven, ninety two and three, Alex forty

2066
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: nine fifty five and three, even fifty six fifty seven

2067
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: and three. So um, the winning percentage now is very

2068
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: very close. I'm a little bit ahead now, all right,

2069
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: even you're feeling well Thanksgiving, Paul. So that's what I'm

2070
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna six o seven winning percentage with the spread. Don't don't, Paul,

2071
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: don't don't pump. That's me too, Okay, good, I don't.

2072
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't pump anybody's tires but my own. All right,

2073
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: all right, Giving Week one, Tripleheader, Week week Fry Game one,

2074
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna wake up nine thirty. Sorry, twelve thirty. I'm

2075
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: still in Pacific time. We got Buffalo traveling to Detroit.

2076
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo's favored by nine and a half, nine and a half.

2077
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Detroit's on a little bit of a hot streak here.

2078
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 1: I think they've won three one a row. Look out,

2079
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: here comes Detroit. Just kidding. I'm gonna take Buffalo, but

2080
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: that's a lot of points. Um, yeah, you know what,

2081
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay them. I'm gonna lay him. I'm gonna

2082
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: do it. I know it's crazy, but I think button

2083
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: hook me like that. Sorry, I got to scratch out. Sorry, Um,

2084
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I am gonna. I mean no matter, if you get

2085
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 1: really stressed out by this, you don't have to. Yeah,

2086
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: you can just pick. If you can just comment, you

2087
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: can just thumbs up her thumbs down our picks if

2088
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: you want. Um, I am going to take Buffalo, but

2089
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 1: I will take the points. Yeah. Uh, the nine and

2090
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: a half is a little steep. I think Buffalo is tired.

2091
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: I think they're in weird situations. I think they might

2092
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: be looking ahead to next Thursday's right trip here. Um,

2093
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 1: So I'll take the points. We'll get Fred, Alex and Evan,

2094
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: or we'll at least I don't know Alex. Sometimes she

2095
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: doesn't pick. We'll get Fred and Evan. Um. At some point,

2096
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: who do you like in that game? Just give us.

2097
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Buffalo, okay, but I don't think they're

2098
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna win by nine and a half. Say that's perfect

2099
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: at all. I don't need to stress. I don't think so.

2100
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Maybe they might win by three. All right, four thirty pm,

2101
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: that's right about the time Paul and I will be

2102
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: saying goodbye to our Thanksgiving parties and heading to Gilette Stadium,

2103
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: off the war on a plane. Uh giants here that

2104
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: I am Dallas. Oh you're coming back. I'm literally just

2105
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 1: going to eat and coming back. I'm insane. The man.

2106
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 1: You should have made arrangements to not come back like

2107
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: you could have done that dedication. But that's crazy. You're

2108
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: actually taking a flight tonight and you're gonna be back

2109
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: in time for the show tomorrow. You're crazy, that's Craig.

2110
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: Craig insane crazy. All right, Giants at Dallas. Dallas is

2111
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: favored by ten damn damn ten Dak Prescott and Fuego

2112
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: coming off a big winded Giants coming off a loss,

2113
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of wind out

2114
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: of their sails. Um. That's a tough one though, But

2115
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: I still like where. I still like Dallas. I'm gonna

2116
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Dallas, but I'm gonna take those points.

2117
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a division game. It's gonna be close. Yeah, Giants,

2118
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing. Yeah, I like Dallas.

2119
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 1: I think I think the Giants are very similar to

2120
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Minnesota team with a very good record that's not anywhere

2121
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: near that good. And they also um lost another wide

2122
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: receiver this week. Al oh god, oh yeah one Dale Robinson.

2123
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the two wide receivers theyve loss this year.

2124
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,879
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna skip over New England at Minnesota.

2125
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: We'll be back to that one. Don't worry. Everybody. We're

2126
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna moved to Sunday where we have the Tompa Bay

2127
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: Buccaneers traveling to Cleveland to take on the Browns. Tampa

2128
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Bay by three and a half. Now, still no no Watson.

2129
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: He's practicing, but no, not back yet Watson. This is

2130
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the last yo, Yeah, this is the last game. Yeah,

2131
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: he comes back next week. I think I'm gonna say

2132
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: to Cleveland's looking ahead to that one. I think Tampa's

2133
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: starting to find a little bit of a stride. I

2134
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 1: know it's still kind of a grind for them, but

2135
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Tompa on the road, Tom Brady, and

2136
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: I'll lay those points me too. I think Tampa got

2137
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: some confidence in Germany with that win, found a way

2138
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: to squeak by the Rams, but then they went out

2139
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,759
Speaker 1: and beat Seattle, who had been playing well. I agree

2140
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: with Mike. I'll take Tampa and lay the points. Any

2141
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 1: comment Tamara, I'm like him. No, she's just now, she

2142
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: gives that one. She gives that one the stink face. Now,

2143
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: she's just preoccupied with the flight that she has to

2144
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: take twenty four hours I'm sure traveled during. I'm astounded

2145
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: by that. Yeah, nothing to worry about no. No one

2146
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: travels on Wednesday. At least she's just going one night.

2147
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: You don't have to check a bag though, right, Yeah,

2148
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: that'd be crazy. We move on to Cincinnati at Tennessee

2149
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: one o'clock Sunday. Cincinnati by one and a half. That

2150
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: sounds like Jamar Chase is edging towards a return. That's

2151
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: not in this game. But but I think he's he's

2152
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: he's practicing, I believe or started practicing. So um news

2153
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: for the Bengal That is good news for them since

2154
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: they're scoring forty five points without them. Yeah, they're I

2155
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati in this game and I'm and I'm a

2156
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: Tennessee apologist. I hate picking another road team, but I'm

2157
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna go what was it? What was the spy? That's

2158
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: the one half? Yeah, I'm gonna take Cincla that one

2159
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, I want to take the Bengals too.

2160
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about this game. I think the

2161
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 1: Titans are finding themselves a little bit too. They've they've

2162
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: been better recently. But I will take Cincinnati to keep

2163
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: their offense. Yeah, Burkes has been been effective. He was

2164
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: good in that Green Bay game on that Thursday night. Yeah,

2165
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: big guy, that was their last game, right, yeah, yeah,

2166
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: I would. I'm gonna have to go since see just

2167
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: because is their offensive Is Titans offensive coordinator gonna be

2168
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: at the game? Oh god? Because I think he's in

2169
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 1: a Mexican prison right now? Um yeah, he wasn't in Mexican.

2170
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh that he came back from Green Bay and got

2171
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: a duy. Yeah, I saw at the podium right now.

2172
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: But I have no idea if he's going to be

2173
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 1: at the game. So just like to apologize to all

2174
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: my teammates and all right, moving on Houston at Q

2175
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: and flying my Hammy dolf. It's uh Miami by thirteen

2176
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: and a half thirteen goodness gracious, Uh yeah, I think

2177
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm definitely taking Miami for Houston is

2178
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 1: just down at the bottom barrels. I gotta do it.

2179
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I'm gonna lay those points to

2180
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: a I'm gonna take Miami to win, but I will

2181
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: take the points. I think there's a chance that Davis

2182
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Mills doesn't play this week. It looks like they might

2183
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 1: be getting Kyle Allen ready. I'm not sure in that,

2184
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: but I just like thirteen and a half. I don't

2185
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins defense is very good. That's a lot

2186
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: of points where a bad defense. Now their offense has

2187
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: been playing really well at home. You're probably right, but

2188
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: I'll take the points. Okay, all right? Moving on, we

2189
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: have the Chicago Bears, likely not to have Justin Fields

2190
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: and his a dissocated shoulder? Is that what it was? It?

2191
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: I believe so yeah, geez, well that's what happens to

2192
01:46:54,840 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: you run him. Chicago's at the Jets, Mike White three

2193
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: to three, Jets by four and a half. Do you

2194
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: like that? I like your subtle shot at like, well,

2195
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: if you if you want one of those quarterbacks that actually,

2196
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, scores points playing, that's the risk you take

2197
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: challenging luck. Uh geez, you know. I'm gonna go with

2198
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the Jets. I know it's crazy, but I just I

2199
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna play well under Mike White, and

2200
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: I think that the Bears are kind of losing their mojo.

2201
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 1: A Fields doesn't go and they're kind of kind of

2202
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, let's just kind of hit the

2203
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 1: pause button for a week while he's out. Um, I'm

2204
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Jets and I'm gonna lay the points.

2205
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Um crazy, I am gonna go with the Jets and

2206
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: um because Justin Fields isn't playing. I'm gonna lay the

2207
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: points too. I'm gonna catch up real quick for Fred

2208
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: because I hope there's some he's emailing from the bus.

2209
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,560
Speaker 1: So Bill's win don't cover Dogs Delight game. So Buffalo

2210
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Detroit Giants win outright Division trape books soccer Big d fans.

2211
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 1: So he has the ups that of the maybe of

2212
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: the season that giant the Fred Dakota pin On Giants

2213
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: win outright? Uh? Bucks cover against Cleveland. Uh yeah Cleveland

2214
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: with us Um the spread would be more if the

2215
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: handle was different. I don't know what that means. Bucks

2216
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: win and cover. Okay, he says more coming. All right,

2217
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: so hold place, hold place. Miami covers over Houston. No,

2218
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: no pithy comment on that one. Chicago wins but doesn't cover.

2219
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: They're getting four and a half. Um, so what does

2220
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: that mean? That's the first Fred is m of the

2221
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: day Chicago. Okay, now we can move on. All right,

2222
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: we're waiting Cincinnati. I don't see Cincinnati in nice one.

2223
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: He didn't pick that one yet, Okay, skipped it. One

2224
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: o'clock Sunday at Lanta at Washington, Washington by four and

2225
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 1: a half and Taylor Heinike working his way into playoffs.

2226
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm definitely on the train. He's kind of easy to

2227
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: root for. I mean, you've seen some of those stories

2228
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 1: about and now he was way out of football and

2229
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was doing the Kurt Warner

2230
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: stock and shelves or anything, but I feel like back

2231
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: to our conversation earlier about like leaders and like the

2232
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: team being behind them, like with Kirk Cousins. Yes, that's

2233
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: the opposite the Zach Wilson. Everybody hates prison Wentz. So yeah,

2234
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I think you know what. I

2235
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with a little upset here. I'm

2236
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: gonna take Atlanta. Why, I don't know, Um but Cordurell Patterson,

2237
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: big return. Um, I don't know. I'm just gonna I'm

2238
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna kind of fly off the handle with this one

2239
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: and go up with that side. Yeah, Freddie is with you,

2240
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: Atlanta over Washington. Tough game to gauge. Um, So he

2241
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 1: takes Atlanta. I'm gonna take Washington to keep their little

2242
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: hot streak going. Um. Yeah, No real insight as to why.

2243
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Chase Young's back. Yeah, I think he might be.

2244
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts too is out. I think he took a

2245
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: knee injury last week. So maybe I don't like my

2246
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: pick already, but oh well, I'm sticking with it. Moving

2247
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: on one o'clock, Denver at Carolina with Sam Darnold back.

2248
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 1: He's back, guys, he is back Denver by two. This

2249
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: is a This is a garbage game. Man. Yikes. Uh,

2250
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna feel dirty about no matter

2251
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 1: who I pick, I'm gonna take Denver. Um. I'm not

2252
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: sure why I feel bad for anyone who's actually gonna

2253
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: watch that game. Man. The only intrigue in this game

2254
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: is to Sam Donald actually looked like an NFL quarterback. No, yeah,

2255
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: I doubt it. And that was a that was a

2256
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. No, but I just save no, no, no,

2257
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: next question. Their defense has played pretty well, ye, Carolina,

2258
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: well Denvers too. I'm gonna take Denver on the road.

2259
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: Freddie takes Carolina upset lead lock special. What are the sharps? No,

2260
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a two point game. Um, he

2261
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 1: actually does have a an upset coming up. Oh on

2262
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: our next game. Nice tease. Uh, We're moving on one

2263
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: o'clock again and Baltimore Ravens at Yaxsonville Yaguars. Yeah, Baltimore

2264
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: by three and a half. Don't tell me this is

2265
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: his upset. Wow, he's gonna go jackson I can't do that.

2266
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: I know Baltimore is does. Some have some stupid results

2267
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: now and then, but I don't think this is going

2268
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: to be one of them. I think they win and cover. Yeah,

2269
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: I am gonna take Baltimore to win. I will take

2270
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: the three and a half. A couple of things that

2271
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I am taking. The hook the spread is kind of

2272
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 1: curious to me. Makes me wonder what's going on. And

2273
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,879
Speaker 1: I just think the Ravens are one of those teams

2274
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: that like they got a bunch of pat season in

2275
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 1: a row. They didn't play great last week against Carolina.

2276
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: Board I could see it. I could see this game

2277
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 1: being tighter than you thinking. And Freddie likes Jacksonville outright. Wow, Freddie,

2278
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: go get them all right. We're moving now on to

2279
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,480
Speaker 1: fred if you're listening, I need a Cincinnati pick from you. Cincinnati, Tennessee.

2280
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 1: They must have missed it four or five on Sunday,

2281
01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: the LA Chargers coming off another rough loss to Arizona

2282
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: coming off another rough loss for them as well, the

2283
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:08,799
Speaker 1: Lack by four and a half. Four and a half.

2284
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,839
Speaker 1: Manh yeah, I just I don't know what the status

2285
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: is right now Kyler Murray. But based on the quarterbacks alone,

2286
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Chargers and I will lay

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01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: the points. Yeah, I will take the Chargers, but I'll

2288
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: take four and a half at home for for Arizona.

2289
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I think the Lack will win the game. But um,

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01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray will be back. I don't know

2291
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: quite a few home dogs this weekend, no idea. Yeah,

2292
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 1: Fred likes the Chargers to get right against the Cardinals.

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01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 1: Get right, they won't stay right? All right? We got

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01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 1: Vegas at Seattle. Josh McDaniel's looking for Freddie takes Tennessee

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati game. There it is, um, so he

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01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: is listening, so be on your best behavior. Nice little

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01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: challenge still for the Raiders. I mean, Seattle always a

2298
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: tough place to play. They're looking to bounce back. This

2299
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: is a tough one. But you got Oh I'm sorry,

2300
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: Seattle by three and a half. He gave you the spread. God.

2301
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Last week I picked Vegas that came through for me.

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01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again. I don't know, guys, I

2303
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 1: feel good for Josh. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Vegas.

2304
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 1: And I'm picking way too many road games this road

2305
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 1: teams this week. Yeah, I am going to take Seattle.

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01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: Um both ways. I'll lay the points to Freddie likes Vegas.

2307
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 1: He's with you, Deuce says, feel good. Seahawks start to fade.

2308
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Does that mean they're starting to fade or he don't

2309
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: fade them, they're starting to fade? Oh? I mean, I

2310
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: think Geno Smith's one of the best stories in the

2311
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: league this year. And it's just like gives should give

2312
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: teams hope that like a quarterback can kind of kick

2313
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: around for all of us and then all of a

2314
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: sudden put it all together. Maybe there's hope for us.

2315
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: Yet Fred makes me laugh. With the next one, we

2316
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 1: have four five the ROMs traveling to Patrick Mahomes and

2317
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City by fourteen and a half. Wow, yikes,

2318
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: I just I mean Matthew Stafford back and concussion protocol, right,

2319
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 1: We're probably back to square moment with him. So I'm

2320
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: taking Casey. I'll lay the points. I'm taking casey both

2321
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: ways to m Freddie says, the Rams are done. Stafford

2322
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: was a flash in the pan, so trying to get

2323
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 1: your paw um. Do you just see the difference like

2324
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: with the quarterback makes like last week touchdown, touchdown, concussion

2325
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: game over? Like what was your summation of the fight?

2326
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 1: Tough one? Moving on four twenty five New Orleans at

2327
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: San Francisco. San Francisco by noine or a half. Yeah,

2328
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I like I watched a little of them this week.

2329
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 1: I like how they're playing. I mean, Jimmy g is

2330
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: still a little bit limited. But the weapons, I mean, debo,

2331
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: you get the ball in Christian McCaffrey's hands, they just

2332
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: they can they can move the ball, kittle. I'm gonna

2333
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: take San Francisco. I'm gonna lay the points. I am

2334
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:56,879
Speaker 1: going to take the points. I'm gonna take San Francisco

2335
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: to win. But nine and a half's a lot coming

2336
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: back from Mexico. You know, maybe they're a little bit

2337
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, short week trip from Mexico. Maybe they're not

2338
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: quite ready for this one. Uh. Freddie says, uh same,

2339
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers win, but don't cover Sharp's not convinced. Yeah,

2340
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think you're ready for

2341
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: this jelly last one. Eight twenty Sunday night, prime time,

2342
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers travel to Philadelphia to take on

2343
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Eagles buy seven. That's a good game, at

2344
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: least it might have been at one point in recent history.

2345
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 1: But I think Philadelphia, Um, we'll win this game. I'm

2346
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna lay the points to I'm gonna take Philly to win,

2347
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: and I'll lay him. Yeah, me too. I think Green

2348
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: Bay stinks. Although Philadelphia has not played great the last

2349
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I lost to Washington. Yeah, I'll take

2350
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles both ways. Fred says, Eagles both ways. Eagles

2351
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: cover over Green Bay. So Philly, all right. We're on

2352
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 1: the Monday night Pittsburgh Steelers at the Indianapolis Colts and

2353
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 1: coach just Saturday, Um, Indie by two and a half.

2354
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: It's another two, another tough one. I don't know what

2355
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: direction these two teams are heading. It's Kenny two gloves.

2356
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: How do we like what he's doing? The two gloves

2357
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: definitely bothers me, by the way, more or less than

2358
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 1: the headband, no, less, but not about the floppy play sheet.

2359
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh god, the floppy, the floppy thing that's up there too.

2360
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 1: I think headband still wins the day because at least

2361
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: the playbook, like you need that, like that's part of

2362
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: you that you need it. But like the headman, we don't,

2363
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: we don't need that. I'm gonna take Indianapolis. I'll lay

2364
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: the points. I'm gonna take Indianapolis as well. I think

2365
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 1: that they've played hard. I think their defense is outstanding. Um,

2366
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: so I'll take Indie. Fred likes Pittsburgh because he thinks

2367
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: that Tamara's buddy, Mike Tomlin is not happy with the

2368
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday hiring. Oh yeah, he's gonna any information. He

2369
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: sees it as disrespect to the coach. Uh. Now we

2370
01:56:56,720 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 1: go back to this Thursday day night. Tomorrow night, the

2371
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 1: New England Patriots traveled to Minnesota, and I take on

2372
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings at eight twenty pm Minnesota by two and

2373
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: a half. Two and a half. That sounds all right.

2374
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 1: I weirdly feel pretty confident about this game. I'm not

2375
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 1: sure why. I don't think the Patriots are gonna win

2376
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: by two scores or anything crazy like that, but I

2377
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: think that they will get after Kirk Cousins. I think

2378
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: they'll get an early lead, things will kind of break

2379
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 1: their way and the defense will close it out. Hold

2380
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson in check. I do think Dalvin Cook scares

2381
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: me a little bit. Big plays want to avoid that,

2382
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 1: but I trust New England's defense in this matchup. I'm

2383
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: going to take the Patriots twenty three to seventeen. I

2384
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: see a similar kind of game as Mike. I think

2385
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings, as I've said many times over the past month,

2386
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: are congrossly overrated. So I just don't see like all

2387
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: these weapons on offense. I think Justin Jeffers is one

2388
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: of the best offensive players in football. I don't think

2389
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 1: Adam Delin's the same kind of guy. I'd take Jacobe

2390
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Myers over him, you know, as a point of comparison.

2391
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: I think Levin Cook is solid. I think m kirk

2392
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Cousins is very average. I think the offensive line is

2393
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: very average. I think the Patriots will put some pressure

2394
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 1: on Cousins. There'll be a lot of punts in this game,

2395
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: and the Patriots have proven in the recent past they

2396
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: can win that kind of game twenty to sixteen. New England.

2397
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 1: Freddie likes the Patriots a little bit bigger than you

2398
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: and thirty two to ten, thirty two to ten two. Wow,

2399
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of field goals. I would, I would.

2400
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 1: I would love to be a file on the wall

2401
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 1: in the postgame show if they win those two ten i'd.

2402
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I'll be fired up, I'll be happy, I'll be tired.

2403
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 1: We have to get the Super Bowl guy to call

2404
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: back in if that happens, throws like five touchdowns. All right, Well,

2405
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for us. Of course,

2406
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, Patriots, it's more likely Patriots win thirty two

2407
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 1: to ten or the Vikings win thirty two to ten.

2408
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 1: Patriots win. You know, I just don't think that that could. Yeah,

2409
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: well we'll find out Tomorrow night. Pregame show starts at six.

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01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune in. We'll see where me and

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01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 1: paul A rd after our Turkey Day and of course

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Speaker 1: Tamara Hearty will be with us as well, and otherwise

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01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:32,680
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