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Speaker 1: What's your what's your take on naming your daughter Disney?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's a little on the nose.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, our favorite movies is Disney, so we named

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Speaker 1: My favorite food is hamburger, so this is my kid burger.

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Speaker 1: It would be like, I'm a big movies fan and

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Speaker 3: Stubbs, Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season four to twelve,

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Speaker 3: Episode four of Say Guys. It's a production of by

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Speaker 3: Heart Radios, the podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 3: into American shared consciousness.

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Speaker 4: And it's Thursday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: All hallows, eviv Oh, yeah, Eve, Eve, Eve happy they

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Speaker 1: believe to you. Hey, if you like Wicked, the film musical,

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Speaker 1: it's your day. It's national or you're just from Boston.

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Speaker 1: You think something's cool, It's National Wicked Day, Palm, it's

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Speaker 1: National publicist Day. Speak up for Servey. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the fuck that is National candy corn Day. Nope, sorry,

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Speaker 1: no fucking hate. I'm anyone who listens to the show

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Speaker 1: for the last eight years when I fucking hate candy.

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Speaker 4: Forn Famously, I do not listen. Oh it's a one

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Speaker 4: way see here. Famously, I do not listen to anything

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Speaker 4: you're saying to me. I do like candy corn. It's

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Speaker 4: contingent that is like, actually, the real scary day is

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Speaker 4: October thirtieth. That's National Wicked Like they just right, they're

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Speaker 4: the biggest losers in a feud. Ever, like I don't

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Speaker 4: know why everybody dresses up on the thirty first. The

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Speaker 4: thirtieth is the real day. Hell yeah, Hell yeah, man.

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Speaker 4: My name is Jack O'Brien aka, I'm a sugar freak.

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Speaker 4: Sugar freak, I'm sugar freak a ow that one courtesy

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Speaker 4: of No Clue on the discord. Because I'm a bit

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Speaker 4: of a bit of a sugar freak. They're replacing chocolate

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Speaker 4: with sugar in our candy this year to cut costs

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Speaker 4: who's like, yes, yes, we yah, yes, yes, don't mind

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Speaker 4: if I do as I reach into my kid's candy bag.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look over there. Thrilled to be joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my co host mister Miles Grass Miles Gray aka

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Speaker 1: got dark chocolated in my lip. When not dip, you dip,

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Speaker 1: we dip. Put the chocolate in my lip. When not dip,

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Speaker 1: you dip, we dip. Okay, shout out to charl On

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Speaker 1: we o my Charles ennui fromage. If you want to

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Speaker 1: It's just a much more pleasant experience with the dark

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Speaker 4: Get your teeth and gum health. The exact Four out

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Speaker 4: of five Denis recommend that you just pack a big

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Speaker 1: It's like remember airheads that candy. He's like, I put

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Speaker 1: teeth are riddled with cavities. He will get it fixed. Ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: We're thrilled to be joined in their third seat by

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Speaker 4: a very funny actor improviser, a founding member of the

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Speaker 4: hip hop improv group North Coast and founder and operator

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Speaker 4: of Sweet Tea Studios. It's Douglas Why.

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Speaker 5: It's a daddy with a patty eating York pepper mint patties.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, hey hey.

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Speaker 5: Let's just going into the Halloween theme aka Douglas Parmesan. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 5: Deep Parma in the building.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, Douglas. Wonderful to have you here,

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Speaker 4: wonderful partner of big money players. And hey, a lot

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Speaker 5: We have a lot of fun with the iHeart podcast

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Speaker 5: in here. We have a stradio lab in here, bombing

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Speaker 5: with Eric Andre in my studio. But most of all,

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Speaker 5: today I get to have fun with you at TDZ podcast,

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Speaker 1: Is the best of the best of the iHeart crew.

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Speaker 1: So I thank you. I've heard very little. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, we're thrilled to have you here.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get to know a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: There's a new movie called Nuremberg starring Michael Shannon, Romney

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about a bunch of layoffs at Amazon that

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Speaker 1: It's happening, you guys, can't wait for that universal basic income.

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Speaker 4: But first, Douglas, we do like to ask our guests,

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Speaker 5: a lot of DJ sets, like specifically dub music. It

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Speaker 5: I love a good setup. I love I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 5: They've got some cool lighting and oh I've never heard

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Speaker 1: Now were two thousands strom. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny is on the on the back.

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Speaker 1: Music, you know. Yeah for sure, ye wave a fist

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Douglas? Okay, underrated?

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Speaker 1: This is my hot take.

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Speaker 5: It's not too cultury but New York City beaches I think,

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Speaker 1: York City beach. That's disgusting. I would never go.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, cool, it is because we're all images.

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Speaker 4: Well it's weird because TV news is as good as

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Speaker 4: Is there something you're streaming that you're you're feeling particular?

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Speaker 5: We've all been there, that old trodden, well told tale. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Let's start out a little pop culture, well, a little

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Speaker 8: poppy culture. Culture mm hmmm. So next month, it feels

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Speaker 1: Just so I'm sort of taking it, taking the team

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Speaker 1: to what I see now. Wow wow, I thought they

431
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: were all chilling in Argentina, MAXI and with a my tie.

432
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Well now they're just giving money to Argentina. There's still

433
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Speaker 1: an Argentina connection right now with forty billion we gave

434
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Speaker 1: to them. Uh wait, so that's do you know? You

435
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: know Herman Gurring, right, he tried to. He found out

436
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: Hitler was gonna off himself and was like, hey, dude,

437
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: can I be the on that. Yeah, that's what he

438
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Speaker 1: did in the last day, and then he was kicked

439
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Speaker 1: out by Hitler. Was like, get this motherfucker out of here.

440
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Speaker 1: That's just an idea of what herman. Herman Gurring was

441
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Speaker 1: all he made. He's a fucking vile motherfucker. Was also

442
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Speaker 1: the dude who was pressing the Reichstag fire immediately to

443
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Speaker 1: be like, it's communists, it's communists. Yeah, real architect of yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: a lot of it. Was the second most powerful Nazi.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I don't know.

446
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Speaker 4: Maybe it'll be instructive to see how people could be potentially,

447
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Speaker 4: at some future hypothetical point held accountable for their war crimes,

448
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Speaker 4: but it isn't.

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Speaker 1: I see also that those people still are so driven

450
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Speaker 1: by their own narcissism and ego. Hey dude, her you're

451
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Speaker 1: gonna offer yourself in the bunker. Get I get that.

452
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Speaker 1: I get that kind of biding my time. This is

453
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Speaker 1: my spot. Jesus so to promote the movie.

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Speaker 4: Sony released online character posters, which is you may recognize

455
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Speaker 4: those from like when X Men First Class came out

456
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Speaker 4: and there was like a Beast poster, and you know,

457
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Speaker 4: Superman had a character poster. There was a Star Wars

458
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Speaker 4: The Force Awakens one with Han Solo, and then they

459
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Speaker 4: really fucked up the right side of his face.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that, but it yeah, yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: the proportions are way off here.

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Speaker 4: I think they added a blaster like holding it up

463
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Speaker 4: over his face and then we're what's funny.

464
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Speaker 1: Because his face is actually at an angle, and then

465
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Speaker 1: they used a straight on perspective to fill in the

466
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Speaker 1: other part of his face, which is why it looks

467
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Speaker 1: so weird and.

468
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Speaker 4: Like a younger person. It seems like that part of

469
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Speaker 4: it has botox. Yeah, model, yeah, but uh yeah. So

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Speaker 4: character posters usually used highlighting popular heroes like the X Men, Superman,

471
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Speaker 4: Han Solo, and people had literally like made the joke

472
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Speaker 4: when Christopher Nolan was releasing Oppenheimer, they like made parake

473
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Speaker 4: posters with like Robert Downey junior Oppenheimer with like him

474
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Speaker 4: standing in front of like a mushroom cloud.

475
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Speaker 1: Like folder of papers too, like he's like I'm I'm

476
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Speaker 1: an inventor.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no, he really assumed that they would employ

478
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Speaker 4: this strategy for a historical drama about real life tragedy.

479
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Speaker 4: So Sony Sony deleted the posts. But I just feel

480
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Speaker 4: like probably a good rule of thumb not to try

481
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Speaker 4: and marvelize literal nazis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just yeah, I think that's I think

483
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Speaker 1: I think we'd all get behind that. No need to

484
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Speaker 1: do that. They could just be like a piece of

485
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Speaker 1: shit or something and then say Gurring, Yeah there you go.

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Speaker 5: I say, you know what about the lawyer. Let's marvelize

487
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Speaker 5: the lawyers or or some of the people holding them

488
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Speaker 5: to account, to put them in the hero's journey. You know,

489
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Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, we give them cool backlighting, we give

490
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Speaker 5: them beautiful touch up. It's like, are we gonna start thinking,

491
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Speaker 5: oh this who was this guy?

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Speaker 1: Why is Gurring fucking shredded? Why are you smirking like

493
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Speaker 1: that shirt opening rippling six pack ads? That's so weird?

494
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Speaker 1: Twins on his shoulders.

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Speaker 4: I mean, marketing movies like has never been like that.

496
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Speaker 4: That discipline has never been above trying to fool people

497
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Speaker 4: into seeing a movie by misleading them about what the

498
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Speaker 4: movie is. Yeah, there's many famous like trailers where it's like, oh,

499
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Speaker 4: I thought this was a totally different genre of movie

500
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Speaker 4: than it was. And I do wonder if in this

501
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Speaker 4: case they're trying to hit both sides of the American

502
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Speaker 4: populace by being like, yeah, we're gonna like make a

503
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Speaker 4: movie about them being held to account. And then they're

504
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Speaker 4: also like, hey, look how cool Gurring looks for like

505
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Speaker 4: trying to get like Steven Miller to like.

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Speaker 1: Go to a movie. Yeah, you know, yeah, let's get

507
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Speaker 1: Gurring with a cattlebell, you know, some lifestyle. Yeah, right,

508
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: this thing his facial expression, Russell Crowe as Hermann Gurring

509
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: facial expression. It looks like if you didn't know the

510
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Speaker 1: context and you took away his outfit and just his

511
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Speaker 1: facial expression, you think this is like mister Holland's Opus

512
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Speaker 1: or something, where it's like he's very pleasant and he's like, huh, yes,

513
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Speaker 1: what a good life I've had. You're on trial for

514
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Speaker 1: your fucking war crimes and because you didn't get the

515
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Speaker 1: firing squad, you ended up taking a cyanide capsule the

516
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Speaker 1: day before.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, so aspirational, so yeah, yeah, going out like

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Speaker 5: a g Yeah, I want firing squad, no hanging, give

519
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Speaker 5: me the sign?

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Speaker 1: Then who gets these people to cyanide? I'm always curious, like,

521
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Speaker 1: who's handing that off to them?

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Speaker 4: Oh, man, you need a Siinide capsule. I'll give you

523
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Speaker 4: a cale. You need a Nuremberg cyanide. Guy, it's Helen

524
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Speaker 4: Hunting contact. She shows up, gives you the cyanide and

525
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Speaker 4: then leaves.

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Speaker 1: Right right right yeah.

527
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Speaker 4: Our writer JM pointed out that this is not dissimilar

528
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Speaker 4: from have you guys seen the Kingsman movies? The Kingsman franchise.

529
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Speaker 4: At the end of King's Man, which was the last

530
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Speaker 4: one and the one that did the least well, didn't

531
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Speaker 4: see that it included a post credit scene that introduced

532
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Speaker 4: Hitler as if it were like Thanos or something like

533
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Speaker 4: he comes out of like a a door, like bathed

534
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Speaker 4: in light, and they're like, yes, it is our new.

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Speaker 1: Scene, folks. He always needs to be sweaty, like he

536
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: always needs to have like the meth sweats with his

537
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: hair flapping around like that's don't just he always needs

538
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to look stressed out and like a loser.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you ever see that video? The I guess it's

540
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Speaker 4: not a video. I don't think they quite had a

541
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Speaker 4: digital video back then, but the film did reel of

542
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Speaker 4: him just sitting at the Olympics, and like you've always

543
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Speaker 4: you we've all seen like the photos of him like

544
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Speaker 4: standing up right and like watching the Olympics, but somebody

545
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Speaker 4: like actually got moving camera footage and he is like

546
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Speaker 4: rocking back and forth and just like working his jaw

547
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: and like it's just like this guy is so high,

548
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: it's unbelievable. He's like uncomfortably high at every moment of

549
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: his life. Like all those speeches that people are like, yeah, really,

550
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: really a great speaker. I've always been like, he seems

551
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: fucking like he is tweaking, he's yelling to fucking settle down.

552
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. An amount of meth only reserved for fighter pilots

553
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: and Hitler, right, yeah, yeah, I mean I think the

554
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: whole society at that time was kind of on one.

555
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: They started really handing out math pretty freely. Yeah. I

556
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: didn't know it was readily available at the time. Oh yeah,

557
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah. They were like, have you guys heard about

558
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: this ship? Please tell me more. The fur is addicted

559
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Speaker 1: to them.

560
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Speaker 4: Disappear go on makes you makes you really good at

561
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Speaker 4: big engineering projects that you'll never finish, which I mean

562
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Speaker 4: that kind of was their thing. They were like, we're

563
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Speaker 4: building a giant Uh didn't they have a giant magnifying glass. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 4: I believe this is I remember this from the crack days,

565
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Speaker 4: like the number of like uncompleted Nazi projects that were

566
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Speaker 4: like tornado gun checking the cannon.

567
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Speaker 1: They had a rail gun.

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Speaker 4: They had a giant space magnifying glass that was gonna

569
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Speaker 4: use the sun's beam to like roast entire sections just

570
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Speaker 4: the globe.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just very like meth project.

572
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: Just a civilization littered with like unfinished meth projects that

573
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Speaker 4: were never going to come to fruition, and then some.

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Speaker 1: Of them did.

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Speaker 4: They had like a train that had a giant, like

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Speaker 4: three football field sized rifle. It was just like so

577
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Speaker 4: this is gonna be hard to aim, right, it's on

578
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: a train and it's too big.

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Speaker 1: The sun gun does feel like peak drug addict invention,

580
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: where Hitler's like, I bet he had a fucking magnifying glass.

581
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: He was fucking with all high and he's like, oh fuck,

582
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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Inventors get

583
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Speaker 1: because like like when you read about it's like they

584
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: researched the concept, but that feels like you're think it's like, yes,

585
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: we'll look into that, and they probably looked like, what

586
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the fuck is this guy talking about? Dude, a giants

587
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: magnifying glass. It's just all want to obcinerate the targets

588
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: on Earth. Okay, okay, all right, Just.

589
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: Briefly going off of the story we were talking about

590
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Speaker 4: yesterday on yesterday's trending about the fact that we're seeing

591
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: a you know, right word shift not just here in

592
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Speaker 4: the United States, but across the globe, and connecting that

593
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: to people's feelings that maybe the current order of things

594
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Speaker 4: wherein we just trust corporations to take care of everything,

595
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: that maybe people are starting to feel like not great

596
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Speaker 4: about that circa I don't know, the year two thousand

597
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: and eight, and we're just seeing the outcome of, you know,

598
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: everybody losing faith in that system, which is still sort

599
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: of a default in a lot of places, and the

600
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: only other option being fascism. Just another another piece of

601
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Speaker 4: evidence that people might be looking at. Amazon announced that

602
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Speaker 4: they're laying off fourteen thousand corporate employees and that's not

603
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Speaker 4: the end of it. Reportedly, the job cuts will ultimately

604
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: reach thirty thousand because the company wants to replace the

605
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Speaker 4: workers with you guessed it. AI.

606
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Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna hope so hobing more people with

607
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Speaker 1: higher paid employees. Dang again, which.

608
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Speaker 4: By the way, and just like that, this will be

609
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Speaker 4: greeted as like good news by Wall Street, Like this

610
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: will be seen as a good thing. So just seems

611
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: like a bad system to where like this is the

612
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Speaker 4: option that we have other than fascism. Is like, I

613
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Speaker 4: don't know, Amazon is really excited about this AI stuff, right,

614
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Speaker 4: let's give that. Let's give that, give them a cut

615
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: at that.

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Speaker 1: This is all going well because, as we've talked about

617
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Speaker 1: on the show, every example or at least the most

618
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Speaker 1: significant examples of PEP be like my whole human customer

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Speaker 1: service team by welcome AI, Welcome to the new age

620
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Speaker 1: of AI. Oh shit, fire, please come back, please come back,

621
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Speaker 1: please come back. What was the one? Klarna? Klarna? Yeah, Klarna, Yeah,

622
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Speaker 1: Klarna went for it and they had to immediately re

623
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Speaker 1: hire human beings because like this, it sucks.

624
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one the place that allows you to go in

625
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: debt for like a five dollars uber Etz order, they

626
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: let go of their entire customer service team and then

627
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Speaker 4: a year later, So like I was talking to people

628
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Speaker 4: about this.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to.

630
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Speaker 4: Talking to some other dads about AI, you know, as

631
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Speaker 4: we do fellas, and they knew that they had cut

632
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Speaker 4: their workforce and handed over to AI. Had no idea

633
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Speaker 4: that the CEO of the company it would seem to

634
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Speaker 4: be a pretty significant story, had no idea the CEO

635
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: of the company a year later had literally come out

636
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Speaker 4: and in the media openly been like, we fucked up.

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Speaker 2: Man, The AI doesn't work at all, Like this sucks shit,

638
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: because the way it's covered in the media is just that, yeah,

639
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: they're amazing things are happening with AI.

640
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 4: They're replacing humans and so yeah, that feels like that's

641
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: the message that's getting received.

642
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, or so many people

643
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: on like shorthand they use like the short en of

644
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, like I'm sure like with AI, like

645
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Speaker 1: all this other stuff, like they're sort of have bought

646
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Speaker 1: into this thing of just like evoking AI as this

647
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: other thing that's working in tandem with humanity to make

648
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: things better easier. Is like the truth rather than an

649
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: all out advertising marketing blitz from the people who have

650
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: spent billions of dollars trying to get this shit going

651
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: to make you just kind of automatically fill it in exactly,

652
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: exactly exactly this Amazon, is this their first we hired

653
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Speaker 1: or we fired humans for AI?

654
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Speaker 4: Like interesting, they had put an AI algorithm in charge

655
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: of hiring. Okay to yank it after a year when

656
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: it became clear that the tool systematically discriminated against women

657
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: applying for technical jobs such as software engineers and was

658
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: just like that bad at the job that's.

659
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Speaker 1: In charge of. I wonder if like the developers of

660
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: that hiring air or like, what's an improvement, you know,

661
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: because before it was racist and massage and now it's

662
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: just mysogistic. Yeah, and it hates women, so look the

663
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: next one, it'll probably hate some other group that we

664
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: can't figure out how the biases got in there.

665
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and dual Lingo had a similar problem there. CEO said, oh, yeah,

666
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 5: we're going fully AI. We're letting a ton of people

667
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 5: go at dual Lingo. We even't fired the al even

668
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, so I can learn a language and

669
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: speak it to nobody, Like there has to be humans

670
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 5: involved in the process of learning a language. And yeah,

671
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: I mean like, I'm all for cool tools, but not

672
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 5: when they remove the person behind the process.

673
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, didn't they like delete their whole like social

674
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: media accounts because the backlash was so insane, like we

675
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: don't even need human translators. And then it was just

676
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: like oh god, oh god, oh god, oh god, the backlash,

677
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: the backlash.

678
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not heading towards the Jetsons right now. We're

679
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: heading towards like, you know, scorched earth. People heading around

680
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 5: like please please one dollar for so I can have

681
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 5: a place to pee or have water.

682
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: And it's like we people aren't thinking just because it's

683
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: baked into like the congressional DNA of the stock market

684
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: that profits must be you know, some coming.

685
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, well, what's gonna happen to everybody? Like

686
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: there needs to be some sort of forethought government wise

687
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: of where what are people going to do?

688
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: Where are people going to go?

689
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: I don't care if there's a surplus created by technology, cool,

690
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 5: like if that's if that's what happens, like that's cool,

691
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: But there has to be a way for people to

692
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: thrive still.

693
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the thing is, we thought we could figure

694
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: that part out early on, and then we realized these

695
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: people are getting in the fucking way, man. Yeah, people

696
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: are in the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole system, I mean for a number of

698
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: years now, for a number of decades now, it's been

699
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: a wealth redistribution machine for taking money from people who

700
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: have less money and siphoning it upwards. Like you can

701
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: just see the overall model of like the wealth, the

702
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: wealthy getting wealthier, all other wages stagnating, Like it's it's

703
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: very very clear. They're not hiding it, and it'll be interesting,

704
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: like something's going to happen, something's going to give I

705
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: don't think people are just going to continue to be like,

706
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: uh yeah, man, that guy's bawling.

707
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's why too. With everything that's going on,

708
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: and there's certainly plenty to feel very cynical about the

709
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: one thing that I try to find optimism is if

710
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: this thing is about to break, then that means there's

711
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: going to be a new thing. Yeah, and what is

712
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: it's the one screeching Yeah, and some people and I

713
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: get why people think like it's going to give way

714
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: to this other terrible reality And it absolutely could, and

715
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: it could also be something completely different. It might it might,

716
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: it might awaken something and people that allows us to

717
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: move move towards something different. It's gonna be bad in

718
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: the short run. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah no. Could

719
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: you imagine one day? This is how Mike magical. I'm

720
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: sure some people are thinking like you're like, in twenty

721
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: twenty six, the Dems will take back the House and

722
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: they'll pay it, and then Donald trumple realized he needs

723
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: to lay off, and then he's gonna go away, and

724
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: then I can go back to Brunch and and and

725
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: that's it. And the suffering will continue ambiently around me,

726
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: but I will I will continue to turn a blind

727
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: eye to it and say that has no bearing on

728
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: my life. Sounds sounds like a plantyd. So that's so

729
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic. Brunch twenty twenty six, that's the plan. Yes,

730
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Speaker 1: do you think the demokrats are looking for someone with

731
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: the last name Brunch? Tyler Brunch?

732
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Speaker 5: Tyler Brunch has a really good platform, Yeah, Tyler, I

733
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 5: think yeah.

734
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Speaker 1: Tyler Brunch. Vote vote bru Oh my god, literally brun.

735
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Speaker 1: Yeah god.

736
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Speaker 4: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back

737
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: to talk about Halloween. We'll be right back, and we're back.

738
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Speaker 4: And I wanted to talk about the ghost face mask

739
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: from Scream because I we we have in the past,

740
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Speaker 4: looked at the and it maybe we still will.

741
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Speaker 1: They were we're kind of running out of time this.

742
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Speaker 4: Week, but didn't even do the like trending top top

743
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: costumes of the year thing. It's always been a bit

744
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 4: of bullshit where it's like, you know, they're just finding

745
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: the ones that are like popping up and in the

746
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 4: news so that they can like and then it's a

747
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Speaker 4: mixture of that with like it'll be like spider oh yeah, Batman, Yeah,

748
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: well spider Man, but the like truly you know, we

749
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: we have thousands of trigger treaders come to our house

750
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Speaker 4: every year. For the past six years, we've lived here

751
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: in a place that like has very like constant trigger treaters,

752
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: and without fail, every year, the most popular costume is

753
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: the scream the ghost Faith mask, Like that is it.

754
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know, I was.

755
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: A little bit surprised, Like I don't know it. I

756
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: knew the screen movies were popular, but it's like from eight,

757
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: starting at age four up, people are just wearing scream masks.

758
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: So I feel like there's just something about that mask

759
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: that really connects with the national share consciousness. Like I've

760
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: always thought that Michael Myers is the scariest, coolest Halloween mask.

761
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: But the stream demolishes Michael Myers in terms of like popularity.

762
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Speaker 1: So I think I got it. I got some ideas.

763
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: I think maybe yeah, so uh yeah, And on Wikipedia,

764
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: Wikipedia can confirm since the appearance of ghost Face and Scream,

765
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: the costume has become the most worn and sold costume

766
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: for Halloween in the United States.

767
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Speaker 1: Douglas, you a Halloween fan? Do you dressing? I like Halloween.

768
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: I dressed up as a Bavarian chocolateeer this year, and

769
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 5: before that I was a pineapple. Nothing, nothing too scary.

770
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 5: I keep it light on Halloween, but nothing is scarier

771
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Speaker 5: than a three foot child in a scream costume.

772
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: Scream you look Michael Myers too. Oh either or true

773
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: foot Michael Myers is hilarious.

774
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Michael Myers. I saw that at UCB one time and

775
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: that was a great show. My my Harald team three.

776
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Michael Myers. Yeah, but no, I mean there is something.

777
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Speaker 1: It's I think it comes back to Van Goh, the

778
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: of it all. It is Monk.

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: Yes, it's memordial, it's deep. No, everyone has felt the

780
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: Scream in their heart and so yeah, that's what I

781
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 5: feel like.

782
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 4: I feel like it's connecting because so one of the

783
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: theories of like masks is that like you know, like

784
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Speaker 4: Michael Myers is the most neutral mask. It's like it's expressionless,

785
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: and I feel like that's what's scary about it, you know,

786
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: is it's just this like blank face that you can

787
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: both that both it's like creepy to have something stalking

788
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: you that like never makes an expression, but also you

789
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: can project whatever onto it, you know, like you can

790
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: project your own scary feelings. Where scream is like the

791
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: or the ghost face mask is the opposite of that.

792
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: It is the most expressive facial expression like possible, and

793
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: they just really like nailed it with uh yeah, I

794
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: mean they So a lot of people will point out,

795
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: like you did. They do seem to be borrowing from

796
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: the Edward Monk Scream, which is a famous painting because

797
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: from the time I was painted in the late nineteenth century,

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00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: I think it symbolized the existential angst and anxiety that

799
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: people were facing with the on set of the the

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Speaker 4: technical the Industrial Revolution.

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Speaker 1: Wait till World War one, y'all? Yeah, world War one?

802
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: The face the face seems to be saying coming from

803
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: a deep existential horror and asking the question what's up

804
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: with World War one? World War one? Dude, dang influenza? Fuck?

805
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if to me the reason,

806
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: I think the screen mask is the least scary of

807
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: the masks, and that's why it's so the embrace is

808
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: so easy because you look at it and it looks

809
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: kind of like a It looks like a decoration, you see,

810
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: like when Disney makes Disneyland look all spooky like, and

811
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: it's one of the ghosts where it's like, oh, it's

812
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: a ghost and it's like scary, but it's not like menacing.

813
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it comes from like

814
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the film, so like, yeah, it is like ironic too.

815
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: Like that's another thing that people have pointed out that

816
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: it's like post you know, Scream is a very postmodern

817
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 4: movie where it's commenting on horror movies and the rules

818
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: of horror movies, and like they have literal characters inside

819
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: it talking about the rules of horror movies, and so like,

820
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: the mask is both like can can be seen as

821
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: like expressing horror, but it can also it almost seems

822
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: like it's mocking, yeah, exactly, sarcastically being like oh no,

823
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: like doing a Kevin from Home Alone.

824
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, And in the movie, I think there's even a

825
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 5: bunch of jump scares that end up being a haha,

826
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: I was messing with you man, yeah in the movie,

827
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: And I think that actually helps it be scarier because

828
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 5: you don't know when it's gonna be the real one.

829
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 5: And there's so many parts in the movie where people

830
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: are like, oh, okay, stop messing around, come on, take

831
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 5: it off, and then it's like, oh.

832
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: No, it's you watch you yeah right, Oh no, it's

833
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: the guy with the very specific voice changer.

834
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

835
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: I mean the like I feel like that Michael Myers

836
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: feels like otherworldly almost, and you know, his character is otherworldly,

837
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: like he kind of can't be killed, and it's just

838
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: this like force of evil that keeps coming from you.

839
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: For you.

840
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: Where's the screen movies which are like the most that

841
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: the most successful of the box office of any like

842
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: slasher horror movies. I think the first three ones, at least,

843
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: the bad guys are always just like on some Scooby

844
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: Doo shit. You know, it's always just like I've pulled

845
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: off the mask and revealed that it's you know, a

846
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: real person from the movie with a grudge and a

847
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: complicated backstory doing this because they've yeah, usually they've been

848
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 4: ruined by the world. But I do feel like that is, yeah,

849
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 4: there's something very human about both who the killers actually

850
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: are in the screen movies, but also like the mask

851
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: is like kind of very like embracing human emotion and

852
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: human horror and you know all of that. So there's

853
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 4: like which makes sense like that at a time when

854
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: we've like kind of mostly I think left behind the

855
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: idea that like there is another worldly horror that is

856
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: going to do us in like that it's the devil

857
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: that's going to do it, and now we're just like

858
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: people are bad. Yeah, that it makes sense that this

859
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: would be the mask we go with.

860
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: I think there's like a comfort argument too, because think

861
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: about all the shitty fucking rubber masks that we were

862
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: subjected to in the eighties and nineties prior to Scream,

863
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: and they were like stinky inside of basketball smelling rubber

864
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: faces or like I mean, they're still popular now, Like

865
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: a lot of them were like those in My Near

866
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: Future unfortunately, and like a lot of like the like

867
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: scary ones we're like fucked up and kind of scary.

868
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, bro, if I like, if I had

869
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: that in my room, I just wouldn't want to really

870
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: look at it, you know. And the scream mask a

871
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: little more comfortably were like a black hood of put

872
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: the mask on, and it's I think again, it's just

873
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the fact that it's less menacing. I think appeals to children,

874
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: and because it's not like it's not bloody or anything

875
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: or has like you know, like it's like a mutant

876
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: face or whatever. It's like silly ghost mask. But also

877
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: the scream like to your point, Douglas is because like

878
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, Billy Loomis and whatever the fuck Math the

879
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: other guy was called in the first movie was like

880
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: teenagers fucking around with the mask. It kind of has

881
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: that like so sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry sorry sorry sorry. Yeah,

882
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Victor is giving it to me to be sorry for

883
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: the spoilers. I should have said that it wasn't Billy Loomis.

884
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: But like I think there's like a fun to it

885
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: that also makes it unpredictable, you know what I mean,

886
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: or like you don't like so it really is like

887
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Mike Myers is, like you can kind of project your

888
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: own intent on it. It's the scream. The ghost face

889
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: mask starts from a place that feels a little more innocent,

890
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: and then from there it's like, it's really up to you.

891
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: How fucked up you want this thing to do? Yeah,

892
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: and to be killed by something that's making the scared

893
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: face that you're making is kind of like it's mocking you,

894
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

895
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: The origin this is a quote from a slash film

896
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: article from I think this is what Yeah. Wes Craven,

897
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: or one of the makers behind the film, say they

898
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 4: were doing a location scout for like one of the

899
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 4: places they shot it. They saw this mask it must

900
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: have presumably it was around Halloween, and we're like, what

901
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: about this? And then this quote says no one could

902
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: agree on a mask. And I remember we were in

903
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: a location scout and we found ghost face in a

904
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: box of stuff in a garage where that you were

905
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: location scouting and just like just muddling through their shit.

906
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: Wes Craven immediately looked at it and said, this is

907
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: like the famous screen painting. And so we took that

908
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: to our production and we said, riff on this, make

909
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: something like this. They must have done twenty different designs,

910
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: every one of them was rejected by the studio, and

911
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: finally we were like, why don't we just get the

912
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: rights to the mask? And we have a drawing in

913
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: the dock of like what some of the things they

914
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: did looked like. And they look like fucking garbage pail kids.

915
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 4: They look like shit, it's so bad.

916
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, really half the brain exposed like no, yeah, and

917
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 5: not as breatheable. I mean, to Myles's point, children love

918
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 5: a breathable mask. And these would have been a rubber

919
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 5: basketball ship hole.

920
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, steam steam cook your dome wearing a fucking

921
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: dumb anyway. Wait, so who's the person who has the

922
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: right That person must be fucking raking into.

923
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like somebody from a Halloween mask creator

924
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 4: who like got the got the rights. Yeah, so fun

925
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: World a company called fun World that did like a

926
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: series of masks. So the screen mask was meant to

927
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: like kind of be flowy and spooky and like go

928
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: with your standard ghost sheet costume, and so like its

929
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: eyes were like a little bit more like wavy.

930
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, turn that clown outfit, the clan outfit into a

931
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: ghost outfit, would yeah, exactly, ghost up this clan outfit

932
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: basically got all these damn clan outfits I do, But

933
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: the origin story. First of all, the house that they

934
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: were scouting was apparently a house from a famous Hitchcock

935
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: movie that I'm not that familiar with, Hitchcock's Shadow of

936
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: a Doubt. And they found it in a box, Like

937
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: this is how it would exist in a Goosebumps tale

938
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: of a haunted mask that like comes out to like

939
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: possess people. Is like they find it in a box

940
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: in a garage somewhere, nobody knows who like designed it,

941
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: and they're just like try and like copy this, and

942
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: its power is just like so undeniable that it can't

943
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: be altered, and that it goes from like that garage

944
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: box to like movie screens to literally like every other

945
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: face on Halloween night, Like if you know, we were

946
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: talking to Douglas We had the host of a podcast

947
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: called other World on earlier this week, and just talking

948
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: about like the way that these ideas, whether they're like

949
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: from the unconscious or like these powerful energies, can like

950
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: come out and like if if ghost face is like

951
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: representing something real or like otherworldly or like unconscious or

952
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: something like if that's secretly the face of Zozo to

953
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: people who listen to that episode trying to get out

954
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: it has like so profoundly and thoroughly won and like

955
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: in a way that is exactly how it would happen

956
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: in like a Goosebumps. But yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, but yeah,

957
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: the somebody got real real lucky. Apparently the TV show

958
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: tried to like alter it because they didn't have the

959
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: rights like they're and so MTV made the decision to

960
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: redesign the mask for the new series. And it sucks.

961
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: It's just it's like a neutral mask from like the theater,

962
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: but it with like a blowjob mouth, like a mouth

963
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: made to get it.

964
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: Looks so it looks like something from like, uh, what's

965
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: the word. I'm like the time of like cortisans in

966
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: Italy or something like a weird porcelain. It's like not scary.

967
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like bad decor in an

968
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: old person's house.

969
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: I can't be scared by like things that like any

970
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: horror movie that happens in the like deep in that

971
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: period like a different period of history, Like I just can't.

972
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't scare me. Like there there's that uh I forget,

973
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 4: like one that took places in Venice that I think

974
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: had Kenneth Brana attached a couple of years back. But

975
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: oh god, I don't know, man, I don't give a

976
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: fuck about this. Yeah, I mean just talking in Venice. Yeah,

977
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: just I think just show them trying to go to.

978
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: The bathroom back then. That's horrifying enough.

979
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 5: No, looks like maybe the Phantom of the Opera would

980
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 5: wear this, you know, as he's approaching in the catacombs

981
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: or something like that. I say, just give fun World

982
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: the money. I mean, they nailed it.

983
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: They fucking ate with that one. They nailed it.

984
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: They channeled something deep and dark about humanity, maybe by

985
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: copying one of the most famous paintings of the past

986
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: three hundred years, but the original Emo King, the original

987
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: Emo King, the scream paint.

988
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: Wow, this is so people are so into the original mask.

989
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Like apparently fun World started altering it a little bit

990
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: that there were like change dot Org petitions. We're like,

991
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: bring back the first generation mask, and people are saying

992
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: the original molds are gone. But I'm sure you can

993
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: make another one because oh so the original you can't

994
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: even find the og I think if you look for

995
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: like there no, there are plenty, I think there. I

996
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: think this is for people who are so in like

997
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: there have been different iterations. The one we see right

998
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: now is obviously readily available, but I think there's a

999
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: different one that people were like, no, I want this.

1000
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: The Gen one is what I keep seeing on the internet.

1001
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: Bring back the Gen one mask. Jesus, Wow. The Schnyder

1002
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: cut of masks.

1003
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 4: Apparently a couple scenes I think the in the first

1004
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 4: scream where it was pre them negotiating the rights to

1005
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: get the original mask, and so there you can see

1006
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: that the mask is like a.

1007
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: Little bit altered. It was like the version that they

1008
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: were going to go with if they couldn't get the

1009
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: right Oh dude, the Gen one Okay, Gen one is

1010
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: different than the one we see in the movie. This

1011
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: is Gen one with like sort of more triangular is eyes.

1012
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that one sucks. Shit, looks too happy? Yeah, that

1013
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: one looks like if like I was hanging out with

1014
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, I did too many mushrooms. Yeah yeah, why

1015
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: is it smiling? Yeah?

1016
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the original, the one that showed up

1017
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 4: in the movie is fucking great. And yeah, that's that's

1018
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: the one that I ride for, and that's the one

1019
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: that it seems like everybody is obsessed with.

1020
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: And the crusette of Halloween masks. You only need one.

1021
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 5: You have it your whole life. You're scary your whole

1022
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: life yet seasoned.

1023
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: You know, this mask has been seeping microplastics into the

1024
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: faces of this family for three generations now, and it's

1025
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: now your turn. Ye and now we're all a little quirky.

1026
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: I think the first year that we did Halloween here

1027
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 4: and like we saw so many screen masts. I was like,

1028
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I think there's like a.

1029
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: Scream reboot coming.

1030
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 4: Wow, that's really like it must be popular with people.

1031
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 4: And it's only grown since then, Like it's just like

1032
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: more and more, and now there's like a lot of them.

1033
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: You can like press a little button and it like

1034
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: sprays blood onto the mass.

1035
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those on it. That's that's too much dip

1036
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: on your chip man.

1037
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's simple, simple, too much dip on your chip

1038
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: I like that saying Douglas, what a pleasure having you

1039
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 4: on the podcast.

1040
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

1041
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 5: It's been a blast. You can find me at Douglas

1042
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: Widick on Instagram, at Douglas Whidick on threads YouTube. It's

1043
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 5: just my name on all the places and I've got

1044
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 5: some shows coming up. I don't know if that was

1045
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: the next thing you were going to ask if it

1046
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 5: was allowed to say no, that's great, away, All right,

1047
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: here's my plug. I've got three performances of Looking for Laughs,

1048
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: which is a UK based comedy show that I'm producing.

1049
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 5: The US version of at caveat January thirtieth is the

1050
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: next one, and we take a live blind date and

1051
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 5: then we do comedy inspired by the live blind date.

1052
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: So that is a fun thing I'm producing right now.

1053
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: Oh wow, how do the people do on the live

1054
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: blind date? Are they pretty nervous or is it.

1055
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: We just had one and they're going on second third date.

1056
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 5: They're still texting and we take like a lot of

1057
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 5: pains to make sure the matches seem like they make sense.

1058
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it's totally crazy and awkward. They

1059
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: pull off like I'm asks and they're like, Hi, nice

1060
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 5: to meet you on stage in front.

1061
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Of one hundred people. So wow, Yeah, that's fun.

1062
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: It's a good time, wonderful. Is there work a media

1063
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: that you've been enjoying?

1064
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

1065
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 5: In media right now? I I mean I had I

1066
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: had the chair company down for that. Uh, but a work, Oh,

1067
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: like you could do a tweet. You could do whatever

1068
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: you want it. Oh man, jeez, I had the chair

1069
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: company down for that. Let me think that's great, chair company.

1070
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: We can plug the chair company again.

1071
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, that's that's my work with media that I've

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Speaker 5: been enjoying. I mean I listened to a lot of podcasts,

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Speaker 5: so I know that that wasn't under the under the

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Speaker 5: umbrella of that.

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Speaker 1: Podcast count Okay, Jesus please, of course they do. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing right now? If it does?

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Speaker 4: I love some pivot. I love some pivot with Caro

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Speaker 4: swishering Scott Callaway. There you go, all right, Miles, where

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Speaker 4: can people find you as their working media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You find me

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Speaker 1: talking about ninety day fiance on four to twenty day

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Speaker 1: fiance and pretty soon, my dear me talking about soccer

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Speaker 1: coming up soon. That's something that's something in the lab

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Speaker 1: I've been kind of talking about. But stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: What else? What else is there? Work of media that

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying, And it's just oh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I watched The Night of the Demon. Oh that one

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Speaker 1: from the eighties. I've never seen it. A Night of

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Speaker 1: the Demons from nineteen eighty eight. It's like there's multiple demons. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's the most just like eighties ass fucking like movie

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Speaker 1: where like women just inexplicably are topless suddenly because it's

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Speaker 1: like one of those eighties movies. Like there's one where

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Speaker 1: like like a woman's like okay, like by like getting

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Speaker 1: off the phone and then just takes her shirt off

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Speaker 1: and then they got to the next scene and her

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Speaker 1: Massy and I were watches were like, this is so

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Speaker 1: fucking stupid. But this is, like we were saying, these

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Speaker 1: kinds of movies are started, like the Hallmark holiday films

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Speaker 1: for Halloween, are these like mindless eightiesless the slasher movies.

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Speaker 4: That's when I saw sleep Away Camp last year. Was

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Speaker 4: just kind of fucking around watching.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to pay attention really because every now

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Speaker 1: and they're like what the fuck's going on? And like

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Speaker 1: and why is she? Why is where'd her underwear go? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, that's I saw. Night of the Demon's just

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Speaker 1: so stupid. If you want to see something like that,

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Speaker 1: check that up.

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Speaker 4: Uh you can find me on Twitter A Jack underscore

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Speaker 4: o Brown Loose skuy At Jacko b the number one.

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Speaker 4: I liked a tweet from Heydro Flask who tweeted one

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Speaker 4: thing nobody gives pigeons enough credit for is their ability

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Speaker 4: to get out of the way and the sidewalk. A

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Speaker 4: lot of you could learn a thing or two from

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Speaker 4: the haha. And then a New Yorker cartoon from Asher

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Speaker 4: Pearlman is just two people walking out the door of

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Speaker 4: an apartment and someone's putting a book into their carrying

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Speaker 4: bag and says, I better bring my book just in

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Speaker 4: case I want to spend all day carrying my book.

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Speaker 4: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist, also

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Speaker 4: on blue Sky at daily Zeikeeist, where at.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zekeeist. On Instagram, you can go to the

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Speaker 1: description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and

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Speaker 1: there at the bottom you will find the footnotes Nope,

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Speaker 1: which is where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode. We also link off

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Speaker 1: to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles,

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Speaker 1: is a song that you think that people might enjoy?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just it's fun. You are talking about

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Speaker 1: dub one of my favorite sub genres of you know,

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Speaker 1: reggae music. But I was just listening to Pachimon, who

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Speaker 1: is like one of these modern artists whose records on

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Speaker 1: tape is using all the same instruments amps because he

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Speaker 1: wants his music to sound like you picked up some

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Speaker 1: old like Dub forty five record from like the seventies

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Speaker 1: or something. And this is a track of his from

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Speaker 1: his album called in Dub called Jumpy. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a little jumpy time, a little that's not scary, but

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Speaker 1: this song is just very vibe. So check it out.

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Speaker 1: Jumpy by Pachimon p A C H Y M A M.

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Speaker 1: All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 7: to tell you what is trending, and we will talk

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Speaker 7: to you all then.

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Speaker 1: Ba ah.

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