1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Let's pivot back and 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: have a look at Southeast Asia, specifically the Philippines and 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: the Changing Guard. They are the country's largest telco. Her 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: market cap on your screens. This Globe share price down 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: about is seventy eight percent. It's hardly been a good year, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: certainly for overall for markets. Just to put that into context. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Joining us now is Carl Raymond Cruz officially appointed the 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: CEO at Globe at the company's annual stockholders meeting just 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: in fact, which I believe just concluded a couple of 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: minutes back. Good morning, and thanks for taking the time 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: to speak with us. How is your first AGM? 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: Good morning? First of all, thank you for having me 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: in this show. The first AGM went well. We had 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: the seamless Annual Stockholders Meeting, so hopefully it bodes well 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: for the future of Globe. What lies ahead for all 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: of us? 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: All right now? What everyone is yes thinking? And I'm 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: sure you've entertained the question as well, Carl in since 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: the announcement, what are your initial priorities now for the company. 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, I will spend a disproportionate amount of time listening 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: to the organization engaging consumers and really trying to bring 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: a sharper customer mindset. I think, coming from my years 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: of experience in the FMCG industry and having worked in 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: a number of markets which are slightly similar, some are 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: probably more volatile than the Philippines, you know, there's a 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: sense that the demand is really driven by a very 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: heavy consumer sector. So hopefully my training to obsess about 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: what the consumer wants and act in it fast will 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: do well for my new journey at Globe. 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure your training with consumers will will pay off. 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: But what are you hearing then in terms of the 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 3: concerns of recession or the concerns about tariffs and the 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: impact on inflation. How am i that you know potentially 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: feed into the demand from consumers. 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, obviously it has impacted consumer purchasing power. While I 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: think the economy of the Philippines is going through coming 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: back to normalcy where inflation is actually going down and 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: GDP stable at about five six percent, you know, it 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: is up to key players such as Globe to make 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: sure that we actually accelerate consumer demand for Telco and 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: our products. The good thing about the Philippines, it's the 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: fastest growing digital economy in Southeast Asia, and this boats 43 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: well for US and the Philippines having, of course a 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: very young population that are already online, boats well again 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: for the future of Globe because our future customer base 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: is now online and actually growing. 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: This is also coming against the backdrop though, of maturing 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: core telco business. For Glow overall, what is that going 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: to mean in terms of the strategy You're going to 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: deploy to fire revenues profits correct. 51 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: So you know, in my first ninety days of onboarding, 52 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: I looked at what made Globe successful and one of 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: the key success factors of the organization, besides of course 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: having a great engaged set of employees and having a 55 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: great culture, is the fact that everyone in the organization 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: is obsessed with the customers. So moving forward, while a 57 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: lot of people think that the industry is mature, opportunities 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: actually abound. I'll give you one example. In the Philippines, 59 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: site density is actually. 60 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Not that good. 61 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: I think we have about close to five thousand users 62 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: per site. When you compare that to Thai Land we 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: have the population, they're only at about one thousand, five 64 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: hundred to two thousand users at site level. While people 65 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: will say it's a mature market. Yes it is, but 66 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: opportunities abound in terms of future revenue growth. 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Right and Carl Well, speaking of since you brought up 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: revenue growth, I mean, I think you guys cleared in 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: the last calendar. I'm just trying to rack my brain. 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred eighty billion that's local 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: currency in revenues last year. The last few years have 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: seen low to mid single digit revenue growth. Are you 73 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: happy with that rate of growth? 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct, David. So it's about low to single digit. 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: The guidance will remain to be low to single digit 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: at this point in time while we repivot in terms 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: of looking at how we are positioned in the mobile 78 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: segment and getting a bit more aggressive in the broadband 79 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: segment and also enterprise or B to B. That guidance 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: as of now remains, but you know, moving forward, ambition 81 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: is to actually be the largest, most profitable, and most 82 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: ad marketelco operator in the Philippines. And for us to 83 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: attain that, we need to get to a stronger position 84 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: in both the fiber market and as well B to B. 85 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: What kind of topics are we talking for you to 86 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: be able to put yourself in a position to realize 87 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: those objectives. 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: So our capecks are still would still be at a 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: healthy level. We're clearing about thirty to thirty four percent 90 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: in terms of CAPEX productivity, but at the same time, 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: bulk of that will be put on and spent on 92 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: obviously data. This, as I said, the Philippines is the 93 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: fastest growing digital economy in Southeast Asia, in the subregion, 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: and therefore, to my mind, very clearly, based on what 95 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: I've seen so far, Globe is best positioned to actually 96 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: ensure that we benefit from that uptick. 97 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Of course we've seen we're of course seeing a lot 98 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: of market volatility in the meantime. Markets are looking forward 99 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: as well to the g Cash IPO, that timeline and 100 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: what we can potentially expect in terms of size. What 101 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: more can you tell us about this. 102 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know, everyone, it's all hands on deck to 103 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: actually get g Cash to be a pushbottom ready for 104 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: an IPO. Tentative timing would be anywhere between the last 105 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: quarter of the year or the first half of next year, 106 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: so all hands are in deck to make sure that 107 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be the most successful offering in the 108 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Philippine market and Obviously, from what you guys know, the 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: valuation the last time it is valued is a five 110 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: billion US dollars. We do expect, based on certain assumptions 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: that hopefully could be better than that. 112 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: How much better are we looking at here? 113 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not in a position, but based on what 114 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 2: you know, the analysts are saying it could definitely be higher. 115 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: I just don't want to moment on a figure right now, David. 116 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: Right, I think your I think Ernest your predecessor mentioned, 117 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: I think we spoke to him a few weeks A 118 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: guy said he was happy with at least eight. But 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: I realize, and you know, I acknowledge that there are 120 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: lots of moving parts, including by the way, I think 121 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: your separate conversations that you guys are having with the 122 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: exchange and the minimum float and what have you. Once 123 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: it's listed, and let's say, let's just for conversation's sake, 124 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: it's listed before the end of the year, to your 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: point early next year, what role will you play specifically 126 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: and Globe play in terms of running that specific business. 127 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: So Globe will remain to be the largest shareholder of 128 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: mintor g cash, And of course we have we have 129 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: to maintain an arms length relationship with Gkash because they 130 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: also serve, for example, other players in the industry. So 131 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I will be playing a coordinating role with Ernest and 132 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: the team led by Martha to make sure that we 133 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: continue to lead the digital and financially inclusion in the Philippines. 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: So in exciting times ahead both for Cortel, Quod, Globe 135 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: and as well for Findech A G Cash. 136 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: David and April, Yeah, and thank you for taking the 137 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: time to come and share some of your upcoming plans. 138 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Congratulations on a successful first AGM. Really going to keep 139 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: a close watch on how you're going to steer the 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: business going forward. Thanks so much again, Cale, Raymond Cruz, 141 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: CEO of Globe Telecom