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Speaker 1: It's great to have you in on a Tuesday. So

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Speaker 1: if I always have this kind of belief that if

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Speaker 1: something's truly gonna work, you know, I met my wife.

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Speaker 1: I remember the restaurant. I was like seven, eight minutes in.

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Speaker 1: She's great, it's funny, she was smart, she was great

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Speaker 1: sense of humor, and I was like, uh, And it's

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Speaker 1: the same in sports. Like Christian McCaffrey got traded to

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Speaker 1: the Niners mid season. He had thirteen touchdowns for the

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Speaker 1: Niners alone and led him to the NFC Championship. When

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Speaker 1: Kad went to the Warriors first eighteen games, they're sixteen

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Speaker 1: and two. Messy. Inner Miami worked instantly. The Heatles took

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Speaker 1: in the first four games with Tom Brady stuff. If

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work relationships business, sports, it can't take forever.

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Speaker 1: It can't be that hard. You can't have to go

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Speaker 1: to therapy four times a week. The relationship doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading a story this morning about how we're

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Speaker 1: a year into the Luca trade and that JJ Reddick

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Speaker 1: Luca trifecta, it's still not working out that well, how

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Speaker 1: the hell long does it take? It can't take this long,

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Speaker 1: And that's my pot. It's not on forty one year

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Speaker 1: undrafted Austin Reeves to make it work. It's on Luca

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Speaker 1: to make it work. But he's got that heliocentric style

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Speaker 1: The Lakers stole him from the MAVs. It was a

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Speaker 1: great trade. And secondly, he is aging quickly. The numbers

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Speaker 1: His athleticism is regressing. He's not twenty seven years old

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Speaker 1: He should be going into his prime. And you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: the great athletes, they all age equally. No, Big Ben

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Speaker 1: And so the Luca dontage thing. I always said. My

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Speaker 1: Is that he doesn't attack the rim. He's not going

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Speaker 1: a victim to the officials and the Zebras, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: We're a year into the Luca deal, playing with one

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Speaker 1: old guy or the undrafted guy. So whenever you're a

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Speaker 1: there'll be criticism. My favorite criticism is Colin, you change

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Speaker 1: football has completely flipped. Five years ago they had ten

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Speaker 1: ten schools, their boosters are car makers. Three straight national championships,

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Speaker 1: Otani gets on the freeway, goes north and we have

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Speaker 1: a baseball dynasty first time in twenty five years. How

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Speaker 1: about Scotty Scheffler. For years, everybody said, who's the next Tiger?

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Speaker 1: Well we found him, Scotty Scheffler, four majors, he's already

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Speaker 1: We have found our next Tiger. How about this International

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Speaker 1: Would you have guessed that five or six years ago,

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Speaker 1: the other thing is, as we started this rant, the

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Speaker 1: that's because sports constantly changes. We've had a massive seed change.

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Speaker 1: Baseball four years ago was unwatchable, pitch clock increasingly watchable.

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Speaker 4: The Wolverines in Ohio State proved that the Big ten

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Speaker 4: is better at the highest level. But what's happened Colin

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Speaker 4: Now there's depth in them. There's never been depth in

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Speaker 4: And this is actually so hard to believe. The depth

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Speaker 1: And we know they're better at the top because Michigan,

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Speaker 1: win next year's national championship are Big ten teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've said it before. Take out Texas. Where would the

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Speaker 1: I know you love the Spurs. Wemby put on a

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Speaker 1: no fangs. That's not gonna work. So Detroit does not

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Speaker 1: saw it last night. You saw an elite East team

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Speaker 5: Is Detroit elite? Colin are we sure in the East?

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Speaker 1: They are?

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Speaker 5: Okay? I saw a team last night that did not

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Speaker 5: have a second score. Well, they Cunningham got locked up

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Speaker 1: Insanely young half the roster feels like twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Their kid, they're really a year to two away.

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Speaker 1: They're really young.

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Speaker 1: Under they'll win. They'll win two. They're not going to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they win first round for sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the Knicks have a lot. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks can score low, they can score perimeter. I also,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks aren't as good defensively.

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Speaker 5: Makes a bee line shooting team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if I said you Og had twenty

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Speaker 1: icon and comment away. You know, quarterback, even first round quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: This is what works in a locker room. Okay, excellence

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Speaker 6: I just I don't care what locker room you're in.

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Speaker 1: It's about being a successful quarterback in this league. A

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Speaker 1: Mendoz is not gonna throw. He shouldn't throw. Nobody questions

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Speaker 7: A leader, tough as hell, somebody that loves to play football,

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Speaker 7: Just somebody that loves the game and will give everything

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Speaker 1: Yeah, almost sounds like Fernando Mendoza of Indiana. J. Mack

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Speaker 2: No, no, this is the headline news, all right.

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Speaker 5: The combine's happening this week in Indie. Colin and a

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Speaker 5: They say that a twenty nine million dollar dead cap

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hey, let's love it one more season then we

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Speaker 1: I don't remember him in college or Tennessee being disruptive,

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Speaker 5: It's an awesome season. Hurts cooked, he was incredible in

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Speaker 5: So now they don't win as many games, major problems.

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Speaker 1: There was drama two years ago. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: He's just too good. Somebody with a young quarterback would

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Speaker 1: Right now, Drake May throws a great deep ball. Drake

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Speaker 5: Could you get a one for AJ Brown?

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Speaker 1: A late one? Yeah? Absolutely, I absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It might.

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Speaker 5: It might end up being that. So, according to a

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Speaker 5: here's the only reason I don't think this is a

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Speaker 1: No, I can I throw something at you please? And

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Speaker 1: stacking Super Bowl trophies and he couldn't get there a

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Speaker 1: second time. And suddenly he sent off this, Hey, football

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Speaker 1: doesn't define me. Okay, That's always been Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: I love Burrow. Joe Burrow. Over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: he goes to Europe, he's into fashion. I'm going to disappear.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is giving off that same Aaron vibe, which

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Speaker 1: is his contemporaries are getting the Super Bowls, winning MVPs,

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Speaker 1: having playoff success, and I think Joe Burrow, for self preservation,

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Speaker 1: for his sanity, is saying I can't define myself by

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Speaker 1: football because it would drive me crazy. Aaron in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay suddenly became, hey, man, I have more to my

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Speaker 1: life than football. And I think Joe Burrow over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years has gotten into fashion kind of

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Speaker 1: disappears in the postseason. It's not a criticism. I think

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Speaker 1: it's the way to preserve your sanity. Is just okay.

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Speaker 1: I know him as good as my contemporaries. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm more talented than a lot of my contemporaries. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't get the great ownership. I didn't get a

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Speaker 1: deep layered, elite front office, and so I think it's

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Speaker 1: really really hard. I mean, what if I was trapped

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Speaker 1: at a company and I just felt like I can't compete.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that way, but if I did, I

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Speaker 1: can imagine how frustrating it is to wake up every

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Speaker 1: morning driving to work knowing like I'm at a major

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Speaker 1: disadvantage to Mahomes, to Josh Allen. So I mean, in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is a good coach and they moved off him.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's like, we got to get better. So I feel

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Speaker 1: a level of sympathy for Joe Burrow because of the

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Speaker 1: plight he's under. It's not good management. It's not a

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Speaker 1: big front office. The Rams, the Eagles, the top drafting

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Speaker 1: teams put much more into the research, development, drafting, scouting departments,

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Speaker 1: and it's thinks to be Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot there. I am just curious. Do

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Speaker 5: you think like Burrow's a little upset they didn't fire

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Speaker 5: Zach Taylor Collins. Show me the coaches who have survived

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Speaker 5: three years of no playoffs. It just doesn't happen. So

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Speaker 5: you got no defense. You got to coach you. Nobody

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Speaker 5: thinks he's a good lead coach.

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Speaker 1: It's not the story you're telling me is he's putting

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Speaker 1: pressure on the front off the team better. He likes

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. He's fine. I've always said with Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 1: he's fine. That's not the issue. I give Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: a pass. Go look at the size of the scouting

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Speaker 1: department for the Bengals, and go look at the size

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Speaker 1: of the scouting department for the Eagles of the Rams.

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Speaker 1: It's not a fair fight. I mean, there's a reason

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Speaker 1: the Rams draft really well, or John Snyder Seahawks draft perpetually,

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Speaker 1: very very well. They've got better resources and better ownership.

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Speaker 5: I mean, fine is not going to cut it for me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Joe Burrow had the greatest season of any

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Speaker 5: college football and quarterback ever. He went to the Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl in year two. Fine doesn't work for me. If

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Speaker 5: I'm Burrow, I like him being demanding.

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Speaker 1: Loie.

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Speaker 5: NFL would take a major hit if he just walked

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Speaker 5: away because the freaking Bengals can't get their act together.

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Speaker 5: Woof final story, Collin college basketball, good one last night

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Speaker 5: Kansas Houston unless you had Houston like me. Kansas was great,

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Speaker 5: but Darren Peterson was not amazing. He did play, which

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Speaker 5: is nice, played thirty minutes at a back to back,

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Speaker 5: scored fourteen points, but afterward it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Huge win.

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Speaker 5: All anybody wants to talk about is Darren Peterson not

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Speaker 5: playing basketball, the injuries, and here he is talking about

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Speaker 5: the recent criticism against him. Darren, there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: outside talk about you last week.

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Speaker 1: What was that last five six days?

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Speaker 6: But like for you personally, uh, kind of normal.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 6: Somebody said something to say it probably after every name

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Speaker 6: this year, so really it's a insue anymore.

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Speaker 5: I actually like that answer. Now. A lot of consternation

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Speaker 5: about can you make him the number one pick?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's going to be a top three pick if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't go number one. It's not because he's a

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Speaker 1: bumb It's because Boozer is excellent a duke, and the

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Speaker 1: kid out of Byu maybe a better player. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's a stacked draft, like.

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Speaker 5: Hold on better players. They placed off heads ahead and

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Speaker 5: Peterson ate his lunch. I mean, I mean it was

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Speaker 5: it was not really Peters Deans.

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Speaker 1: Peterson is dealing with injuries. I just saw a story

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Speaker 1: the other day that he's not getting the elevation he

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Speaker 1: got like in high school. So I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: he's an I think he reminds me of Kobe, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to go top three. But you know he's

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Speaker 1: just too talented to not go number one, two or three.

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Speaker 5: So you mentioned Kobe, and you know he'd kind of

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Speaker 5: be the opposite of Kobe when it comes to wanting

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Speaker 5: to play and desire if you're to believe the stories.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Colin, he's barely played this season. When it

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Speaker 5: comes to minutes games. Yeah, of the availability. Bill self

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Speaker 5: seems to be at wits end with what to do

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Speaker 5: with the situation. His coach. So, I mean, you got

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Speaker 5: these NFL draft scouts saying you have to be naive

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Speaker 5: not to be concerned anonymously. Of course, I can be.

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Speaker 1: Concerned about something. Doesn't mean I want to divorce. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can't work on It doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 1: the end of time, I think. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: in odd. He's just not available very much. I mean

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Speaker 1: I've watched Kansas play with him and without him. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're a great team, to be honest, they're

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Speaker 1: better now than they were two months ago. But I've

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Speaker 1: watched him and all I know is he's a remarkable talent.

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Speaker 1: He's young, he's in the spotlight. It's a highly pressurized

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Speaker 1: situation to play basketball at Kansas or Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like one of these there's four or five programs

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Speaker 1: in the country. Kentucky's won, Duke is won, Carolina has won, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of heat from the students. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot and I'm not pandering to him, but he's too

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Speaker 1: good not to draft early. He just looks different than

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Speaker 1: other really good players.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with a news.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed how defensive the Canadians have gotten? Listen,

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Speaker 1: I know you haven't won a Stanley Cup since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three, and it is sport, and I know the

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Speaker 1: United States beat you and men's and women's hockey. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: but I'm seeing like people Canada. I'd rather be Canadian

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Speaker 1: and win a silver than be an American and win

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Speaker 1: a gold. Your GDP is half of California. Settle down

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Speaker 1: like like like, you know, don't be precious. You wanted

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Speaker 1: to win gold, you didn't. You outplayed us and had

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Speaker 1: to settle for a silver. You got to own that.

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Speaker 1: You got to own that. There's no reason to be defensive.

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Speaker 1: About it. It's like, we weren't you know, we weren't

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Speaker 1: mocking you. It was great, it was close, we won

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Speaker 1: to get very Canada is getting very insecure. I think

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Speaker 1: this whole hockey thing and they've been knocked off their

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Speaker 1: axes a little. You know, you don't want to go

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Speaker 1: to Twitter and say I'd rather be Canadian than win

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Speaker 1: a silver. Maybe that's why you finished with a silver.

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Speaker 1: If that's how you think, I don't know. So this

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Speaker 1: is interesting. So they came out when I show up

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Speaker 1: for the show in the morning, they lay out fifteen

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Speaker 1: stories and we picked, you know, half a dozen to

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Speaker 1: talk about. I was looking at the NFL free agent spending,

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Speaker 1: so the free agency the combines this week. Free agency

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Speaker 1: starts up in a couple weeks, and listen, the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots used free agency to fortify their roster and

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Speaker 1: get to a Super Bowl. I'm not anti free agency.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of bad teams over spend on

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Speaker 1: free agency. I think you have to use discretion. The

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Speaker 1: Rams use it, the Chiefs use it, the Eagles use it,

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Speaker 1: but not nearly as much as the Jets and the

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Speaker 1: Giants or the Raiders. So you got to use some

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Speaker 1: discretion with it. But the Cowboys are ridiculous. In the

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Speaker 1: last six total seasons, not only have the Cowboys spent

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Speaker 1: the least amount of money in free agency and I

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Speaker 1: mean they have spent one fifth of what the Texans

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas have spent, but they have

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Speaker 1: the lowest average per free agent three million dollars and

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Speaker 1: they've only spent fifty four million on free agency. And

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Speaker 1: to give you some sense of it, there are basically

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Speaker 1: almost every team in the league spends at least one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million in that six year period. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys were at fifty four. And this goes back to

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Speaker 1: what we call that internal insular bias, where they validate

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones doesn't want to hire a real GM. They

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Speaker 1: validate their picks by paying their picks. And a great

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Speaker 1: example of this is when they went and got tray

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Speaker 1: Von Diggs about five six years ago. They drafted him

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Speaker 1: and he led the NFL and picks. He made a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, and then they gave him a massive extension

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Speaker 1: and now he's not a Cowboy and the Seahawks Tariq

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Speaker 1: Willen the corner also led the NFL in picks for

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Speaker 1: a year he was a Pro bowler, and he's probably

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Speaker 1: after being part of a Super Bowl winning team, they're

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Speaker 1: going to let him go. Why because you can't fall

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Speaker 1: in love with players. You can't reward them because they

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Speaker 1: have a big, splashy season or they make a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You can pay basically four guys in this league. Your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: your left tackle, in a great defensive lineman, edge or interior,

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Speaker 1: and one great weapon. Seahawks should pay Jsn. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bingals should pay Jamar Chase Vikings should pay Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: You can pay one great weapon quarterback, left tackle, and

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Speaker 1: somebody on that defensive front. I would pay Devin Witherspoon

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Speaker 1: or Patrick Surtana great corner. I can't pay a second corner.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. Kansas City has been telling you this

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Speaker 1: for years. You know, that's why Philadelphia went and drafted

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Speaker 1: a couple of corners out of college. They're both great.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee in five years one of them won't be there.

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Speaker 1: You can't pay both corners. It's hard to pay both tackles,

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Speaker 1: and they're the insurance policy for your most important position

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback. So it's just interesting to look. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at put that graphic up again. The lowest free

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Speaker 1: agent spending free agency spending in the last six years.

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Speaker 1: Next lowest is the Raven and a lot of that's

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Speaker 1: because now they're paying Lamar Jackson some big boy money. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna be limitations. They also draft very well

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, but they're like fifteen to twenty percent more

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Speaker 1: than the Cowboys, so that is remarkable. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: we like on this show Jay mcanial debate on this.

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Speaker 1: But I like changes. I think sports is fluid. Stuff's changing.

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Speaker 1: I like the way Baseball added the pitch clock. I

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Speaker 1: like the way the base is bigger. During the regular season.

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Speaker 1: You go to extra innings, they'll put a guy at

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Speaker 1: second base. It's weird, but it speeds the game up,

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Speaker 1: and the ratings and the attendance has gone up. Bit

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Speaker 1: of a renaissance for baseball, so this is interesting. We

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Speaker 1: got into this discussion this morning the UFL, and again,

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Speaker 1: these second level leagues professionally can take all sorts of chances.

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Speaker 1: So the UFL rule changes. The toush push band only

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Speaker 1: need one foot in on a catch college. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a terrible rule. Most punts in the opposing

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Speaker 1: territory are banned. And the one that's interesting to me

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Speaker 1: is sixty plus yard field goals now are worth four points.

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Speaker 1: And so I am all for changing and tweaking. But

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Speaker 1: here's the problem with that rule and the field goals.

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Speaker 1: Remember a few years ago when the NBA discussed having

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Speaker 1: a four point shot, and my take was, all right,

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Speaker 1: we've already got too many three point shots. Why incentivize

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Speaker 1: players to shoot more balls thirty three feet from the basket.

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Speaker 1: Don't incentivize the part of the game which is already

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Speaker 1: too common and too repetitive. The reason I don't like

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Speaker 1: changing the structure and the scoring of any football is

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Speaker 1: now you're in I don't like this rule, even for

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Speaker 1: the UFL. Well, you're incentivizing taking your best athletes off

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Speaker 1: the field and putting in your worst athlete. Like when

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Speaker 1: baseball went to the universal DH what they really said

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Speaker 1: is we want a better athlete getting at bats, not

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Speaker 1: watching a pitcher bat. You know, Tani can hit. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's always like one pitcher in Major League Baseball that

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Speaker 1: can hit his weight like there's maybe one. But the

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Speaker 1: truth is fewer kickers on the field in football. The

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Speaker 1: better football is going forward on fourth down is strategic

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Speaker 1: and riveting. Watching an unathletic guy go wide right in

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Speaker 1: a wind in Tampa in December is not good television.

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Speaker 1: So I am for never incentivizing something that's less athletic.

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Speaker 1: I love the universal DH. I like going ford the

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Speaker 1: tush push. I don't think it's great television. People get

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Speaker 1: and get hurt, but it's football. It's the best athletes,

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Speaker 1: it's your quarterback. So and I know J Mack probably

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Speaker 1: loves this thing, but I think we have too many

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Speaker 1: field goals. In fact, we have more field goal attempts

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Speaker 1: in the last five years than in any five year

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Speaker 1: stretch in the history of football. May kickers are on

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Speaker 1: the field more now than they've ever been on the field,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, I want kickers on the

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Speaker 1: field less. You could argue, if you got rid of

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Speaker 1: the kickoff, I'd be okay with it. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: if you limited field goals, I could live with it.

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Speaker 1: Do not incentivize more of them.

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Speaker 5: Kickers are on the field because they're better than they

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Speaker 5: used to be. Colin remember Mark Moseley w on an MVP.

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Speaker 5: He was toe kicking, literally kicking with his toe Like

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Speaker 5: we've got great kickers. Now, of course you should incentivize

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Speaker 5: sixty yarders. Well, how could you be against points? Well,

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Speaker 5: what's wrong with taking the points?

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Speaker 1: Okay, because I also think field goals are off and settling.

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Speaker 1: I think from I think the team. I think teams

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Speaker 1: that go for it, the more aggressive teams that go

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Speaker 1: for it over the course of the season, are rewarded analytically.

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Speaker 1: Mibreg Olson talks about this all the time. You should

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Speaker 1: almost always go for it. A minute you hit the

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Speaker 1: forty eight yard line, either side, go forward.

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Speaker 5: I thought two weeks ago we were applauding h m

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks coach for not going for it, and we're

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Speaker 5: killing Sawn Peyton for they have done for them.

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Speaker 1: If you have a great defense and you face an

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed quarterback Drake May Patriot o Line Super Bowl, by

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Speaker 1: all accounts, kickfield goals great defenses. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: look at this year, who kicked a lot of field goals,

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Speaker 1: it was teams with great defenses. Right, So I am

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Speaker 1: four field goals in big games, in big moments when

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Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback is not a threat is overwhelmed. In

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, it made total sense. But on average,

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Speaker 1: over the course of a seventeen games. I think you're

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Speaker 1: much better off going for it and being aggressive, and

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Speaker 1: that galvanizes the locker room. It gives And I also

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Speaker 1: think if you do it early in a season, like

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Speaker 1: say this about Dan Campbell, I thought he was hyper aggressive,

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Speaker 1: but he built an entire culture in Detroit, a losing franchise,

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Speaker 1: around being aggressive and going for it, And I do

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Speaker 1: think it kind of changed the attitude locker room.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it also like shrunk their Super Bowl window

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Speaker 5: because he's on tilt trying hard for a fourth down

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Speaker 5: for like the sixth. Wasn't there a game where he

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Speaker 5: tried six seven fourth downs. You're like, bro, kick the

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Speaker 5: field goal. Take a couple points here. It's not the

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Speaker 5: worst thing in the world. Listen, I'm pro be aggressive,

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Speaker 5: go for it occasionally, but he's taken it to the max.

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Speaker 5: It's getting a little silly the way he's so aggressive.

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Speaker 5: And yes, there are some coaches who are too conservative

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Speaker 5: and only kid field goals beside the four point field

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Speaker 5: goal Colin the one foot down.

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Speaker 1: For reception that you could talk me into.

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Speaker 5: Yes, college football, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, You're like, Okay, his butt is down

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Speaker 1: his elbows down. It's like, if it's one foot down,

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Speaker 1: that makes it much easier again for the consumer. I

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Speaker 1: worry about this though. If it's only one foot down,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it makes it harder for corners to cover people.

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Speaker 1: And it is right now as it is right now,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to find a team with two good corners. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's and it's hard to find a team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have three, at least semi talented wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: We have a cornerback shortage in the league and a

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Speaker 1: receivers everywhere. Tight Ends are now splitting out wide. Kyle

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Speaker 1: van Noy is joining US live. Sam Darnold here too,