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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: And it is also a NFL Combine week. And somebody

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Speaker 1: who turns thirty five in a month, he was at

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Speaker 1: that combine about the probably about fourteen fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: He's a two time Super Bowl champ. Twelve year NFL

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Speaker 1: veteran Kyle van Noy is joining us.

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Speaker 3: He is live in.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and we appreciate him stopping by. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's start with us. Good to see you again. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to your combine experience. Now it's changed. Everybody now says, well,

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Speaker 1: it's the underwear Olympics, but it is a chance to

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Speaker 1: see guys in person. You know, the Senior Bowl, the combine,

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Speaker 1: you get to see guys in person. Go back to

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Speaker 1: your experience. Was it valuable to go to the combine?

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Speaker 4: I believe back in the day it was valuable to

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Speaker 4: go to the combine. It did feel a little bit

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Speaker 4: of the meat market style. You know, you go up

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Speaker 4: way in all that it's a joke. But in the

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Speaker 4: in person interviews, right, you're getting to know the team.

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Speaker 4: The team is getting you. You got to sell your talents.

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Speaker 4: If a team asked you, are you the best linebacker

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, you get to say, yes, Xyz, here's why.

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Speaker 4: Here's why I'm the best. Here's why I'm better than

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Speaker 4: this player. I'm better than this player. I remember Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 4: who didn't really recruit me in college or high school.

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Speaker 4: He ended up recruiting my best friend at the time.

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Speaker 4: And I walked in the meeting and I sat down

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Speaker 4: and I said, don't make the same mistake again. Before

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Speaker 4: we even started the meeting, he started laughing. I was like,

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Speaker 4: you made the mistake of picking a a high school

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Speaker 4: friend of mine, but you never picked me. Don't make

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Speaker 4: the same mistake again. Well, he ended up picking them

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Speaker 4: in Smith out of Louisville played Russher ended up obviously,

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Speaker 4: Chip Kelly, didn't you know work out ended up seeing

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Speaker 4: them when you was at practice with New England. I

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Speaker 4: was like, you made the same mistake again, But it's

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Speaker 4: just a way to get to know teams better, teams

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Speaker 4: that get to know you. I also think it's really

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Speaker 4: good for teams medically. You know, as a player, you

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Speaker 4: can go in if you're very if you've been a very,

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Speaker 4: very healthy player in college, you're able to showcase that.

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Speaker 4: That is a bonus for players. For teams, they get

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Speaker 4: to know a player medical. That's why you saw Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams like, now you ain't gonna be able to poke

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Speaker 4: and prod me and all that. So I understand it,

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Speaker 4: but I do think it's a way for players to

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Speaker 4: understand other teams how they operate a little bit. Teams

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Speaker 4: get to know them. I think out of everything, that's

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Speaker 4: the best that comes out of the Combine.

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Speaker 1: So you played thirty five years old in a month,

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Speaker 1: you played for five different organizations. You have delivered in

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Speaker 3: What would you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't really deliver in Detroit, Colin We can keep it

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Speaker 4: real with that one.

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Speaker 2: But I did get drafted.

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Speaker 1: There can you if you were talking to twenty two

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Speaker 1: You've lived the NFL life, which I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 3: What would be the advice.

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Speaker 1: Current Kyle van Noy, who I'm talking to, would give

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Speaker 4: Buckle up, strap in because you're in for a ride, right.

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Speaker 4: I really believe that's the advice that I would say.

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Speaker 4: tell that Kyle van Ney twenty two years old, sell

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Speaker 4: your talents. When the film is on Miss Playing and

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing better than that. You want to

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing better than that. And then in

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Speaker 4: ability to ability to adapt or die. Not every situation

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Speaker 4: to adapt. I mean, I've been in the show now

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Speaker 4: would love to play one more. I still have enough juice.

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Speaker 4: I think stats didn't go the way I wanted it

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Speaker 4: last year, but if you watch the tape and you

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Speaker 4: get me in front of a GM and a coach

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Speaker 4: right now, I can showcase a lot of talents that

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Speaker 4: I can say, hey, I still got it here. I

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Speaker 4: there's ways to be able to combat some of those stats.

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Speaker 4: And I know everybody is stat driven right now, So

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Speaker 4: I know I'm confident in my skills as a football player.

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Speaker 4: I'm confident in my skills as a media person. Being

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Speaker 4: on the show with you, Colin, we could go all day.

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Speaker 1: When you Kyle Vannoyd joining us for our radio audience,

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Speaker 1: John Harball and I thought he was a great coach,

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Speaker 1: good as John Harball. We had ten coaching openings. Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 1: he's been there eighteen years, it's the same voice. Did

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Speaker 4: That's such a good question because I feel like at

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Speaker 4: They're getting a CEO coach that's going to go in

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Speaker 4: But you have Jackson Dart at the Helm on a

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Speaker 4: You know guys in free agency that you can spend

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Speaker 4: You can get some guys to rally. I mean Tyler Linderbaum,

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Speaker 5: Know, coming up.

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Speaker 4: I know the Ravens are working through that. But he's

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Speaker 4: He's a top tier guy. So the Giants can bring

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Speaker 1: When you know the number one pick is going to

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think it's the most important position.

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Speaker 1: he's kind of Matt Ryan plus. People have said, you

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Speaker 1: He's very aw shucks, very humble. And I asked their day.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think he said it when he did

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Speaker 4: I don't think it matters what religion, what you look like,

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure they were two different human beings, whatever

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Speaker 4: you already have that little like, all right, this is

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Speaker 4: I also think Colin that I actually kind of like

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Speaker 4: His resiliency number one for sure, the way he was

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Speaker 5: They call it the Hub.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go back to the Hub and hang out.

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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed Baltimore. It does have a charm to

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Speaker 1: Backing your people really does pay off. That combine Rams

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Speaker 3: Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line news.

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Speaker 7: Right, And I'm floored by this Miami Dolphin stuff.

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Speaker 8: So obviously their new GM comes from Green Bay, as

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Speaker 8: it just happened to be the gentleman who drafted Malik

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Speaker 8: of wants to sign him to Malik Willis, but there's

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Speaker 7: Have enough money.

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Speaker 8: What is this all planted by Malik Willis's agent, because

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Speaker 8: everybody's gonna buy that.

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Speaker 7: Oh, they all know Malik.

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Speaker 8: They want to sign him, but they can't afford him.

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Speaker 8: So Cleveland Brown's Jets, whoever, remember, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: The Malik Willis you get with Green Bay, and Matt

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have an infrastructure as good as the Packers,

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Speaker 1: my concern with Malik Willis is, if I could get

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Speaker 1: a really team friendly two year deal, I'd be like,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't I prove something of Colin over the

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Speaker 1: But what always worries me is when you go get

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Speaker 1: left Kyle so I think Malik Willis is dynamic and quick,

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Speaker 1: you may not get the exact replica you watch in

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Speaker 8: So Baker Mayfield was a top five pick, flamed out, rejuvenated.

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Speaker 8: Sam Darnold was a top five pick, flamed out, rejuvenated,

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Speaker 8: Daniel Jones top ten pick. Bounce back Milike Willis?

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Speaker 2: What was this guy?

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Speaker 7: Drafted third round?

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Speaker 8: The idea that all of a sudden, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 8: he's got so much talent he can't miss. I think

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Speaker 8: this would be a big time buyer. Beware tag on

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Speaker 8: Malik Willison. Yeah, so I think that's fair.

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Speaker 7: Is the backup in the league.

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Speaker 8: He might be, but as a starter, he's going to

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Speaker 8: take you out of like a top five pick, and

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Speaker 8: you won't be able to get a quarterback high next year.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know. I want the Jets nothing to

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Speaker 1: If I was the Jets, I'd want a tank, So

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Speaker 1: he would take you out of I think Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: has the potential to be a very interesting quarterback in

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Speaker 3: Is he great? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: He's not as big as i'd like, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: He is absolutely dynamic, and I think it's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I liked about him. They brought

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Speaker 1: He obviously can pick stuff up quickly because they brought

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Speaker 1: he's on the field and he's good. So it's like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's hard to do at the hardest position

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Speaker 1: new coaching, new language, new teammates. I helped him a

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Speaker 8: I hope the Dolphins go all in, take him out

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Speaker 8: of the tank, off with the Jets so we can

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Speaker 8: get archs Banning.

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Speaker 7: All right, Let's move to the next ray.

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Speaker 8: And speaking of backup quarterbacks, how about Mac Jones colin

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Speaker 8: the forty nine ers back up now, he has a

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Speaker 8: five and three last season with you know, pretty solid numbers.

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Speaker 8: So John Lynch said they did not plan on trading him.

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Speaker 8: But there are reports, hello, reports saying the forty nine

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Speaker 3: I agree, Jones. Now the danger again with mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Do I get Mac Jones pro bowler New England, mac

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Speaker 1: Jones good with Kyle Shanahan, or do I get the

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Speaker 1: New England and didn't do anything in Jackson. So again,

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Speaker 1: the danger is the head coach makes every quarterback, virtually

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Speaker 1: every quarterback work. So again, buyer beware on Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: and Mac Jones. The difference is Malik is a much

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Speaker 1: more dynamic athlete than mac Jones. Yeah, that's not even

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Speaker 1: I mean, mac Jones is one of the least athletic guys.

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis turned the TV on, doesn't play the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of people can do what he can do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, now, Shane Steichen and Indy likes mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: I think Mac Jones is a bridge to Daniel. Jones

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Speaker 7: is pretty damn good.

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Speaker 8: And remember the Colts need to win, Colin, They've got

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Speaker 7: They went all in with those trades.

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Speaker 8: I think I would not be shocked if mac Jones

434
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Speaker 8: was like a Indy was looking at what the.

435
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Speaker 7: Price tag is. They've given up some picks, so I

436
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Speaker 7: don't know they.

437
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Speaker 8: Can get him, but he's another great, great backup. I

438
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Speaker 8: don't know about starter final story. Let's go to Kirk

439
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Speaker 8: Cousins in Atlanta. It sounds like his tenure is going

440
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Speaker 8: to be done, according to new gm ian Cunningham. He

441
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Speaker 8: went on the radio of all places in Atlanta and

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Speaker 8: confirmed the Falcons will release Cousins on the first day

443
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Speaker 8: of the new league year here in about three weeks. Colent,

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Speaker 8: Do they not try to trade him? Is there no

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Speaker 8: trade market? Can they not trade him?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's expensive, and I don't think he

447
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Speaker 1: has a huge market, and I think he kind of

448
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Speaker 1: felt at different times a bitwashed. Love him, great career,

449
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Speaker 1: forty five thousand yards, should be proud, wonderful guy and

450
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Speaker 1: a really good leader.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not sure he has a market.

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Speaker 8: So we know, like the McVeigh guys like him, Shanahanelo,

453
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Speaker 8: they've related it.

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Speaker 7: So what about the new Lafleura in Arizona.

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Speaker 8: Does Kirk Cousins make any sense warm weather cities, right, Arizona,

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Speaker 8: San fran Seattle, Weather's not great, but whatever I think

457
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Speaker 8: he could thrive maybe there and again they've got a

458
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Speaker 8: good infrastructure.

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Speaker 7: With the receiver's tight end running.

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Speaker 3: Back, you could talk me into it. Arizona's not a

461
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Speaker 3: bad spot. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the line.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald is around the corner. The Super Bowl star

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Speaker 1: joining us had a great playoff run, the redemption story,

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Speaker 1: Like, well, you know, listen. I remember the first time

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Speaker 1: I heard about Sam Darnold. I went to a USC

486
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Speaker 1: practice and they had signed this five star quarterback I

487
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Speaker 1: forget his name, and I'm sitting talking to Sark and

488
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Speaker 1: I said, what do you make of that five star guy?

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Speaker 1: And he says, he says, see that kid over there.

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Speaker 1: His name is Sam Darnald, and he's a couple of miles,

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Speaker 1: a couple couple hours down the road. He said, that

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Speaker 1: guy's going to play on Sundays. That guy's going to

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Speaker 1: be great. And of course Darnald explodes at USC. But

494
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Speaker 1: the the NFL is a tricky business, and and Sam

495
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Speaker 1: is now a Super Bowl champion, and not a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of people believed that was going to happen. Sam did,

497
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Speaker 1: and he is now joining us. Like, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to us. See, I remember your freshman year and Start

499
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Speaker 1: probably didn't tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I remember him telling me this.

501
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Speaker 1: He said, that kid is like a linebacker that plays quarterback.

502
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Speaker 1: He's tough, he's he doesn't care, he doesn't he's not

503
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Speaker 1: caught up in all the wrong stuff. What do you remember,

504
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the beginning of your journey at USC.

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Speaker 1: You were not the five star guy.

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Speaker 3: You were not the.

507
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Speaker 1: Guy that everybody on campus was talking about. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that first, you know, that indoctrination into college football

509
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Speaker 1: at USC.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I do, And I remember, you know a lot

511
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Speaker 9: of people kind of questioning, you know, why I was

512
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Speaker 9: staying and because I know I wanted to play basketball

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Speaker 9: my senior year, and I know a lot of people

514
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Speaker 9: were questioning me that way. And the other kid that

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Speaker 9: I was going to be coming in with, you know,

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Speaker 9: as a freshman.

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Speaker 5: You know, I knew that he was.

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Speaker 9: Going in the spring, so everyone was like, Oh, he's

519
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Speaker 9: going to have a leg up on you and whatnot.

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Speaker 9: But I knew that we also had Cody Kessler, who

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Speaker 9: was starting for US as a red shirt senior, and

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Speaker 9: I knew that I would have time to learn the

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Speaker 9: system and learn how to play quarterback in that system

524
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Speaker 9: and under Sark and under coach Helton as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: I just I think just wanting to play other sports

526
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Speaker 9: and then coming in understanding and being confident in myself

527
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Speaker 9: to be able to get the job done, I think

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Speaker 9: has always been something I've always had, even when I

529
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Speaker 9: was in high school going into college.

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Speaker 1: I remember when you were struggling with the Jets, and

531
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Speaker 1: I talked to a GM who also believed in you,

532
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Speaker 1: and he said, listen, he's twenty years old.

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Speaker 3: The Jets don't have a great infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is hard, and you know, I

535
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Speaker 1: remember this GM saying, you know, Peyton Manning's rare number

536
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Speaker 1: one pick, goes to a team, get support, and it's like,

537
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Speaker 1: but even Peyton Manning year four, like led the league

538
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Speaker 1: in picks. So he said, you know, you media guys,

539
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Speaker 1: he goes, you just think it's easy. It's really hard.

540
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Speaker 1: When you're young and it's New York City. Let's go

541
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Speaker 1: back to the early New York days. You're having fun,

542
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Speaker 1: it's new You're a West Coast kid, you're three thousand

543
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Speaker 1: and thirty five hundred miles from home. Was there a

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Speaker 1: moment in the first two years that you ever said, Man,

545
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if I can

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Speaker 1: play on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: I'm good on Saturdays. Can I be a Sunday guy?

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Speaker 9: You know, I I'd be lying to you if I

549
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Speaker 9: said that there wasn't any doubt in my mind. You know,

550
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Speaker 9: there there was a little bit of doubt, you know,

551
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Speaker 9: throughout those tough times in New York. But you know,

552
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Speaker 9: I had great teammates, I had great coaches that I

553
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Speaker 9: believed in me in New York. And you know that

554
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Speaker 9: that's what really kept me up right there.

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Speaker 5: And again I always talk about it.

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Speaker 9: But my friends in my family that I've kind of

557
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Speaker 9: built at home also were able to keep me up right.

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Speaker 9: And and even you know, there were some times where

559
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Speaker 9: you know, we we won a few games in a

560
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Speaker 9: row being in New York, and and you know, I

561
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Speaker 9: had great teammates and great coaches that were along that

562
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Speaker 9: journey as well, you know. And perfect example is I

563
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Speaker 9: was texting a former teammate of mine that I was

564
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Speaker 9: in New York with today even just talking about you know,

565
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Speaker 9: some things, just personal things. So you know, it's those

566
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Speaker 9: relationships that you kind of build along the way that

567
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Speaker 9: that keep you going, you know, throughout.

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Speaker 5: Those times in New York.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I I I love you know, all

570
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Speaker 9: the people, all the relationships that I built there, because

571
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Speaker 9: if it weren't for those relationships, you know, I don't

572
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Speaker 9: I don't know if I'd be the person or the

573
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Speaker 9: player that I am today.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before on the air. If you go

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Speaker 1: back to Carolina your last six starts, you come, you

576
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Speaker 1: get to start again. You were sitting and watching for

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Speaker 1: you know, bench, they brought you back last six games,

578
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Speaker 1: you go four and two, first time you'd ever kind

579
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Speaker 1: of been benched. That's really where the journey starts. If

580
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Speaker 1: you go back to the November twenty seventh with Carolina,

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Speaker 1: from that moment until today, you're the winningest quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league. So at the end of Carolina, they say, okay, Sam,

583
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Speaker 1: we're giving you the starting job again, and you played

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Speaker 1: pretty darn well. Do you look at that and say

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Speaker 1: to yourself, Okay, confidence back, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: What did that matter to you?

587
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Speaker 5: One hundred percent? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: And I think you know a lot of it had

589
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Speaker 9: to do again. It's I feel like it's going to

590
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Speaker 9: be a theme here for this interview. But like the

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Speaker 9: coaches and players that I was with when I was there,

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Speaker 9: Ben mcadu being one of those great coaches that I

593
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Speaker 9: was with in Carolina, you know, just feeling like you know,

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Speaker 9: it was it was that same kind of West Coast

595
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Speaker 9: system where it was like, all right, I could no

596
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Speaker 9: matter what if I was taken seven and a hitch.

597
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Speaker 9: I never felt like I had to throw it to

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Speaker 9: a guy just because he was one in the progression.

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Speaker 9: And you know, a few trips and falls, I feel

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Speaker 9: like I can get to two and three and even

601
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Speaker 9: my outlet to my running back really quickly.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it was just that that system.

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Speaker 9: That's where I kind of fell in love with that

604
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Speaker 9: West Coast kind of listen to your feet, listen to

605
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Speaker 9: your progression kind of system, and you know, I really

606
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Speaker 9: fell in love with I fell in love with it

607
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Speaker 9: there and it just made sense, especially you know, playing

608
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Speaker 9: playing a coach like Todd Bowles in Tampa Bay. And

609
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Speaker 9: that's because he's hide and shell. He's hiding, you know,

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Speaker 9: where guys are coming from different pressures, bringing forward to

611
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Speaker 9: a side, trying to test your protections that way. It

612
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Speaker 9: just it allowed me to play so much faster, And

613
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Speaker 9: you know, that's where I really fell in love with

614
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Speaker 9: that offense. And again, I have great coaches and great

615
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Speaker 9: players that I played with in Carolina to to to

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Speaker 9: thank for, you know, not only my time in Carolina

617
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Speaker 9: in the great times that we had, but also winning

618
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Speaker 9: a few games there at the end and putting us

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Speaker 9: in a chance to you know, potentially make the playoffs

620
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Speaker 9: in a division that was kind of struggling that year.

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Speaker 1: So then you go, it's well chronicled. Then you go

622
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Speaker 1: to San Francisco, you learn and sit back up party.

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Speaker 1: You go to Minnesota, you absolutely crush that's well chronicled

624
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Speaker 1: and side their decision as we like you, but boy

625
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Speaker 1: do we want a better deal for us. And then

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Speaker 1: you go to Seattle. And we'll get to Seattle in

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Speaker 1: a second. But when you left Minnesota, was there even

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Speaker 1: a tinge of like, but you don't believe in me?

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Speaker 3: I won fourteen games, Like.

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Speaker 1: I would have understood if you got on a flight

631
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Speaker 1: to Seattle and thought, oh, I'm going to show those guys,

632
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Speaker 1: how did you view Minnesota saying we love you? Here's

633
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Speaker 1: the price? Good luck in Seattle. Well, how did that

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Speaker 1: land for you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, being you know that that being

637
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Speaker 9: the end of my seventh season, I felt like, I

638
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 9: definitely haven't seen it all, but I've seen a lot

639
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 9: in the NFL, and I understand kind of the process

640
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 9: and what it takes to you know, I don't understand

641
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 9: necessarily what it takes to run an entire organization and

642
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 9: run a team, but I understand how difficult it can be.

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Speaker 9: And you know, you have a lot of decisions that

644
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Speaker 9: you have to make as a GM, as a head coach,

645
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Speaker 9: and so for me personally, like I you know, obviously

646
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Speaker 9: I believe in myself and I understand in my abilities.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time.

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Speaker 9: I, you know, I understand you know, their thought process

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Speaker 9: of you know, going with the younger kid and maybe

650
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Speaker 9: you know, especially JJ, Like I think JJ is very talented,

651
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 9: he's super smart, and there's there's a lot of potential

652
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 9: there and I think JJ is going to be a really,

653
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 9: really good player in this league. And you know that

654
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 9: that allowed them to kind of you know, not sign

655
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Speaker 9: me to maybe a bigger deal and and bring some

656
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Speaker 9: veteran guys in. So you know, yeah, I think when

657
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 9: I sat back and really, you know, digested, I guess

658
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 9: the information that they didn't want me back. You know,

659
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 9: that was you know, a little a little bit of

660
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 9: a tough pill to swallow. But when I really stood

661
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 9: back and looked at it from afar, I really understood

662
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 9: the decision. And I really did, and I'm thankful that

663
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Speaker 9: I that I landed in Seattle.

664
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Speaker 1: So let's go to Seattle. Now, next seven, let's talk Seattle.

665
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: First practice or two with JSN. Nobody knew he was

666
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: at number one. He's talented. We all watched him. He

667
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: had about sixty catches his first year, and all of

668
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: a sudden it's his second year, and all of a sudden, now,

669
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, you got the second youngest team in the league,

670
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: the Green Bay. You play JSN. Your first moment you realized,

671
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: oh wow, he is something else.

672
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Speaker 3: How long did it take you?

673
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Speaker 4: Oh?

674
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Speaker 9: Man, Yeah, it was so OTAs he was always special

675
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 9: running around doing this thing. But you know that that

676
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 9: early on in the in the process, you know, as

677
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 9: a receiver, especially, you don't want to You're going about

678
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 9: eighty eighty five percent most of the time. And I

679
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 9: remember we came out to LA and did some throwing

680
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 9: in the offseason with the guys right before training camp,

681
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Speaker 9: and you know, i'd kind of seen him move around

682
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 9: for the last couple of months, and then you know,

683
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Speaker 9: I had one of my other buddies that just came

684
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Speaker 9: and through with us because I needed an extra arm,

685
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 9: and he like, dude, this guy is different, like the

686
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 9: way that he moves around and the way that he

687
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 9: gets in and out of cuts, Like he doesn't he

688
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 9: doesn't cut the way that I feel like you're you know,

689
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 9: you normally teach a receiver. He's very kind of rounded off,

690
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 9: but he doesn't lose speed in and out of cuts,

691
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 9: and I think.

692
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Speaker 5: That's that's one of his specialties.

693
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Speaker 9: And that's something as well that I that I kind

694
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 9: of got to witness first hand with Justin Jefferson. Like

695
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 9: there's a lot of similarities there with kind of the

696
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 9: way that they run routes. But Jason, I think another

697
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 9: superpower that he has. He's a lot stronger than people

698
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 9: think he's got. He's got a really strong lower body,

699
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 9: and once he gets the ball in his hands, he

700
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 9: can he can do a lot, you know, with the

701
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 9: ball in his hands, making making you know, guys miss

702
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 9: and being more physical.

703
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: Than DB's Sam. People said, well, Sam Donald didn't do

704
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: a ton in the Super Bowl, And I said, folks,

705
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: Sam Donald did what Brady did. To of Brady's Super bowls,

706
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: he threw for under two hundred yards. I said, Sam

707
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a turnover in the playoffs in the Superior NFC,

708
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: only Breeze, Aikman, you and one other quarterback. I think

709
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Steve Young's ever done that. When you got to the

710
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, did Mike McDonald those two weeks of practice,

711
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: did he just tell you, Sam, listen, we're gonna win

712
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: this game. We just got to make smart decisions. Did

713
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: you have a different feel coming into the Super Bowl

714
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: or did the game work the way you thought it would.

715
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 9: It's just one of those things that you know, I mean,

716
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 9: the head coach doesn't have to say anything to me

717
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 9: about taking care of the football.

718
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 5: You know, that's that's very obvious.

719
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Speaker 9: And I'm well aware of the defense that we have

720
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 9: how special that group is. But I think the higher

721
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 9: the stakes, the more prevalent and the more important the

722
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 9: ball is. And that's not to say it's not important

723
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 9: during the regular season, but you know, I think and

724
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 9: at the same time, like there are a lot of

725
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 9: throws I'd like to have back in that Super Bowl.

726
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 9: I missed a touchdo on to Jacks right before the halftime.

727
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 9: I missed Cooper on a couple throws. Cooper made some

728
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 9: incredible catches in that game, just you know, having my

729
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 9: back that way, Like, you know, there was a deep

730
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 9: ball or I guess early on I was scrambling out

731
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 9: to my left and Jackson was he would have been

732
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 9: wide open for a touchdown, and I just kind of

733
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 9: overthrew it a little bit. But so there are a

734
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 9: few throws that I'd like to have back in that game.

735
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 9: But I think going into that game and just going

736
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 9: into you know, the late, you know, ladder half of

737
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 9: the season, I knew that it would be very important

738
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 9: to just take care of the football.

739
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I remember a game when you were at USC. You

740
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: went up to Washington and beat the Huskies, and you

741
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: were really good. You were I remember that game. Well,

742
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: tell people what it's like now you're back in the

743
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: West Coast, You're in Seattle. They were the biggest USC rival.

744
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: It was the Ducks and the Huskies. About playing in Seattle,

745
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: what is it like?

746
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 9: Oh man, Yeah, I remember that game very vividly. I

747
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 9: think they were they were two or three in the country,

748
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 9: maybe four. You know, had had studs all around, Dante Pez,

749
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 9: John Ross, you know, Jake Browning, had a ton of

750
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 9: dudes on defense, Buddha Baker, all those guys. The list

751
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 9: goes on and on. But yeah, just going into that stadium,

752
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 9: it was electric.

753
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 6: Man.

754
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 9: You know, you had that purple that purple cloud of dust,

755
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 9: you know, welcoming you as as you know the Huskies

756
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 9: jogged onto the field, and you know, it was that

757
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 9: typical Seattle weather. Kind of later in the season it

758
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 9: was gray, a little little chili, but man, it was

759
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 9: It was just fun to be able to play in

760
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 9: an atmosphere like that, Like that's what you dream of

761
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 9: of playing in games like that, and then to to

762
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 9: finally be in Seattle with the Hawks and just see

763
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 9: the electric atmosphere that our crowd creates, not only you know,

764
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 9: throughout the last half of the season, but even early on,

765
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 9: like when we had one o'clock games later or earlier

766
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 9: in the season, it was the same same intensity that

767
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 9: we had, you know, in the playoffs, and so I

768
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 9: just you know, those fans are incredible and it is

769
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 9: a little different in Seattle.

770
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Speaker 5: The fandom that they have for their sports up here.

771
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of they kind of feel forgotten, They

772
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: feel geographically isolated.

773
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: So they got a chip on their shoulder.

774
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: They get lubricated in the three game and they let

775
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: you hear it for the next five hours. Listen, we

776
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: got to run. I'm so happy for you. I've been

777
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: lucky enough to follow all this stuff and know you

778
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: for years. Congratulations. You have a remarkable family, and I

779
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you giving me fifteen minutes of time. You didn't

780
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: have to, and I appreciate.

781
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: It, of course, Calm, I appreciate you.

782
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Man. Sam Darnald, super Bowl champion, Sam Darnold, Yeah, his

783
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: journey's fascinating. You go to the end of Carolina November

784
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, when he got a start, he got bench

785
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, he got the starting job,

786
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: went four and two niners, fourteen wins, Minnesota super Bowl.

787
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: And you know that's why I say, when you're young,

788
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: your support system is so important. And he just didn't

789
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: have it initially. He now does. And I've told the

790
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: story where John Snyder, the GM, at one point said,

791
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: now what is it about fans and the media and

792
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, like the guy is good.

793
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: We watch him every day.

794
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: At practice like we can win a super Bowl with

795
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, He's good. And John Snyder, who's usually right

796
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: at the combine this week, was right again.

797
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: Congrats to Sam, Joel.

798
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Klak, Kyle van Ney, stopped by today Tomorrow revolutionary futuristic.

799
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. Be sitting

800
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Speaker 1: down when we introduce it.

801
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Speaker 3: See you then,