1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt. Before we get started here today, a 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: couple of news and notes from around the league. Len 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Dawson died today, and I don't know if a lot 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: of Steeler fans notice, if you're if you're a younger 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Steeler fan, you might not know this. Lennon Dawson was 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: originally drafted in nineteen fifty seven, number five overall by 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and spent several years in Pittsburgh and 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: then I think one season in Cleveland before going to 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City and becoming a Hall of Famer. Yeah, and 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: he was early early Super Bowls. It was his heyday 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and great player. Um, he had to be pretty old, right, 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: he was sitting in his late eighties. Well, and I 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: was just to watch inside the NFL with Len Dawson. 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: H HBO. That was a great show. Is one of 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the first ones that really gave you game film from 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: NFL films. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point and all 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: those ones. Yeah, that's a great point. Um, I wonder 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers didn't have the best track record in those days. 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, Dawson Uniteds, we're both you know, Steeler property 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: and go on to be Hall of Famers elsewhere. I 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: would wonder what the story is behind all those how 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: that went down? Yeah, good luck getting anybody to admit 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: to that mistake, right, and there's not a lot of 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: people left there. Yeah, but uh, he was a Hall 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of Famer, um, you know, just a really good football player. 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Let the Chiefs to a couple of Super Bowls and 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and I think they lost another one. Yes, yeah, yeah, 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, I remember media first player second, yeah, 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, which I'm sure a lot of people have, 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, and it's a lot more common nowadays. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, he was one of the first ones 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: in the media that was really doing well. Yeah. Other 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: note that Pro Football Hall of Fame announcing that your 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: guy Don Corriel finalist now, which means he'll be going 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: to the Yeah. Whoever the Veterans Committee puts up as 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the coach contributor usually gets in. Um so Coriel gets 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: in and uh, well Marty Schottenheimer waits yet another years. Yeah, 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I've been pushing for Coriel, and part of it's kind of, 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: like we just said, is my youth. You know, when 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I was seven to twelve years old, you know, that's 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: when they were rolling. You know, there was John Jefferson 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: and Joiner and West Chandler and Winslow and Muncie and 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Fouts and a good line and on and on and on. 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: James Lofton I think ended up there at some point. 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: And they were just way ahead of their time. They 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: threw the football a ton, they really didn't care about drafting, 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: we're adding defense at all, and they would always run 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: into some cold weather team Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, whatever, and not 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: quite good to where they needed to be. But man, 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: everyone my age loved them. And you know I was 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: a huge Steeler fan, but I did Dan Foul's jersey. 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: You know that they were just a blast to watch. 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: No one else played the game like them, and Corel 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: was way ahead of his time in terms of creating 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: that offense too, you know, schematically, I still personally, on 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: a personal level, would rather see Schottenheimer get him before him. 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got I understand that he's got seventy 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: more wins, much better winning percentage, you know, a couple 62 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: of Chance Conference championship games. I know, people said, well, 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: he didn't win the big one. I get it, but 64 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: that wasn't necessary. I neither did Core That's my kind 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of my where I was going with that, Like these 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: guys were, you know, Schottenheimer coach twenty years in the 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: NFL and had two losing seasons seasons. I mean, is 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: it really that much different than Thomlin's resume at this point, 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Not all that much. It's pretty clear. I mean, and 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: then you look at his coaching tree, um, you know, 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: just from the guy's bokaer um massive influence. Yeah, Tony 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Dungee and then also Bruce Arian worked on him as well. 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: So I mean that's just and there's other guys that 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: have won super Bowls, Like, yeah, he Marty didn't win 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, but you know, he coached a lot 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of guys or he had was a head coach, and 77 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: a lot of his assistants went on to win Super Bowls. 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's something to be said. There's 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: such a you know, I get it, Air core L, 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: but you also have Marty Ball. Yeah, I mean, they 81 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: they had they had their own way of playing obviously, 82 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters should be ahead of the curve 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: on this stuff. But I've always felt that Corriel, his 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: first thoughts of him as a fan are thrown it 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: all over the place. Like I just said, three wide, 86 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: a tight end that can catch the ball. Holy smokes, 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, fouts in the in the shotgun where immediately 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: people think of Schottenheimer. It's like he's gonna hand it 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: to Christian, you know. But again, he was involved in 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: in a couple of the biggest um you know. But 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'd call him upsets, but they were. 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: They were memorable conference champions games in the eighties where 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness. And then you know, he looked 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: at what he did in Cleveland, what he did in 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Kansas City football, Oh, they were if you're 96 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: a young fan Dawson from Len Dawson until Marty Schottenheimer 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: taking over, the Chiefs were the Bengals or the Chiefs 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: where they were the lovable losers everybody, Yeah, good fans. 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's about it. I mean, he resurrected that that 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: franchise with Lyneman and running the ball and fundamentals and 101 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas and you know, that's that pretty loaded and 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: he got the most out of them. And one of 103 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: the first things I was think about when I hear 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer's name too, is he was let go I think 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: after a fourteen and two season he was fifteen and one, 106 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: had the charger. I was hesitant. That wasn't sure. So 107 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I was, you know, airring on the comment or the 108 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: He also got let go by by Washington after an 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: eight and eight season when they hadn't gone eight and 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: eight in the previous decade, Like yeah, but you know 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: shan Shanahan became available and that didn't work out either, 112 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's when you know they were just going 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: through coach after coach after coach, chasing the big names, 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: and they go eight and eight under Marty and and uh, 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: well that wasn't good enough. They you know, they were 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: spending awful money on Dion Sanders and Bruce Smith and 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Al haines Worth. I mean nobody was done. Yeah, everybody, 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: any big name that was shot. Yeah. And so now 119 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean on anyone that gets fired after a one 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: or two wins, it lost season. I don't care if 121 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: you get blown out by forty points. Has happened. I 122 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: think it is my good mn, Come on, what do 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: you want to do here? But I think they both 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: have strong cases. I wouldn't fight you that Schottenheimer is 125 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: more deserving than Corrio. Yeah, I know. Bill Kawer definitely 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: feels that way. He and I spoke about it in 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: spring and and uh, you know, He's like, look, you 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: just remember the eighty nine season, Schottenheimer made the a 129 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: f C Championship game using three different quarterbacks. Yeah, people 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: forget the details. I mean, into your third string quarterback 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and you still made the It's kind of like a 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs win the super role with all the different quarterbacks. 133 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: But it's close. And I think sometimes with the league, 134 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit too much emphasis in the 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: NFL has put on for the Pro Football Hall of 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Fame is put on Super Bowl champions I've thought that 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: for a while, to be honest with you, because we've 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: had this conversation and people think we're, you know, excusing 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers struggles and the Priests in the postseason of late. 140 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: But if you have a five record in the postseason, 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: you're tearing it up as a quarterback or a coach 142 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, it's an unbelievably difficult gauntlet. Everyone 143 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: has talked about how the Stanley Cup runs the hardest one, 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: and I get that physically, you play so many games, 145 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: but to go beat three teams that are your equals 146 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: are better or you know, it's just often on the 147 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: road and only one out of thirty two gets the honor. So, 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of guys have gotten 149 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: short changed that even if they weren't an instrumental part 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: of a team, if they would end up with a ring, 151 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: they're in the Hall of Fame, you know. And so 152 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, some people say that about Dan Marino. Dan 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Marino can't be the greatest quarterback of all time because 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: well he didn't win a Super Bowl. If we're picking 155 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: up teams on the back lot, he's going pretty high. 156 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he was doing Babe Ruth like stuff in 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: the eighties. He was long before anybody else. Like he's 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: throwing fifty touchdown passes. Everybody else in the league's throwing 159 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty five. Is a second year player or as a rookie, 160 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: You don't, right, I mean, like Duper and Clayton are fine, 161 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: but they're not in the Hall of Fame. I mean, 162 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: it was all right, and Schula was trying to reel 163 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: him in. Yeah, we can't play that way, right, actually, like, man, 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: maybe we'll play that one. Uh, speaking of guys who 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: played that way one large. Benjamin Roethlisberger was at the 166 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Steelers facility today taking him practice over on the s 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: sideline there. He didn't chat with any of you. He 168 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: did not know he's no longer obligated to speak. Yeah, 169 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: it was good at it, but you said he was 170 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: just kind of hanging with Tomlin and just observing and yeah, 171 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: talking to some different players obviously guys that he played with. 172 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: And at one point that was, you know, kind of 173 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: tossing the ball back and forth at the Aunte Johnson 174 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: and so. But he looked good and looked happy and 175 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, I mean he's still in town. 176 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: He's always welcome, of course, you know. I mean, and 177 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine you get the it's this time of year, 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit nice day. Maybe I'll stop down the south. 179 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: Can't play golf every day, right, Maybe the kids went 180 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: back to school today. He's like, oh I got an 181 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: empty house anyway, my kid. That was great, But yeah, 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean maybe Haywards like, hey, stop time I haven't 183 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: seen you in a while. Or it might be a 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: good influence on the quarterbacks that are here as well. 185 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: And I think him and Pickett had some kind of 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: relationship as neighbors in the building. I don't know if 187 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: that's the case. I know he was speaking with Mitch Robinsky. 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Uh they had dinner together soon after after. It was 189 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: after Mitch was signed here and came into town. And uh, well, 190 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm not letting the cat out of the bag here 191 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: by saying that Robinsky was on Q today. I mean 192 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: he was. He was slinging today. He looked yeah, good 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: good folks wanted by the way. Yeah he he spoke 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: earlier today said told us that he expects to start, yeah, 195 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: this next preseason game, and uh, well you see, you 196 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: know where that goes. But as we said yesterday, Dan 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: Campbell that the Lions coach kind of left that cat 198 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: out of the bag and said, well, I spoke to 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. He's gonna play as starters the entire first half. 200 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I actually wrote an article about it yesterday. I just 201 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: went up today talking about it's a great team to 202 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: play if you're basically at full strange. I think the 203 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: only guy that they're not gonna play Jared Goff. They're 204 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: not gonna play golf. I think that's okay. Blow started 205 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: last game and I didn't realize this until last night. 206 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I watched the hard knocks of the most recent one 207 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: came out last night. I watched him, you know live. 208 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: They had so many physical practices against the Colts leading 209 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: into that game. That's why they rested everybody, because I 210 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: was like, this doesn't make any sense for a physical 211 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: up and coming team to sit there dudes in week two. Well, 212 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: it's because they beat the crap of each other all 213 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: week and Indy, yeah, yeah, that happens. That's funny you 214 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: mentioned that because I spoke to him a car Rashid 215 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: today and he had a funny story. Is like, I 216 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: get you know, he got released by the Jets last week. 217 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: I think it was last week, two weeks maybe two 218 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: weeks ago now, whatever it was, and Steelers signed him 219 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: once he once he cleared waivers, the Steelers signed him 220 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: within fifteen minutes. Yeah, they apparently liked him. Called him 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: and told him he hit he was gonna be in 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in two hours, so he said, I was, I was. 223 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: I had been working out. I was going to get 224 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: the chapolte all of a sudden, No, they get get 225 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: a call. I gotta get on you know, yeah, get 226 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: down there. He got there Wednesday night. He got there 227 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: Wednesday and I took his physical, went straight out with it. 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: He said, I had no you know, I hadn't eaten. 229 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: It's like to go out to practice and get He says, 230 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're going live. It wasn't. That 231 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: wasn't because the day before it was kind of quiet. 232 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: Remember we were like, this is the most boring practice 233 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: and we were like, I'm looking at this, I'm going 234 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: We're live tackling. They didn't do that in New York. Welcome. 235 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: He should have showed up the day earlier. That a 236 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: lot easier transition. What's funny because I remember being up 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: at camp and when they signed him, we got a 238 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: tweet from someone and I apologize now because they said, 239 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: didn't you love him coming out of school? And I 240 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of made light of him, like I don't have 241 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: any idea who this dude is. I couldn't remember whether 242 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: I have been a couple of years, but apparently the 243 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Steelers loved them coming out of school. I wish i'd 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: have said, yeah, we liked them too. You know, I 245 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: didn't remember them at all, So they're apparently high on him. 246 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned yesterday that maybe that factors in in the 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Avery release. You know that if they're they think they 248 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: found a guy great. I still think, yeah, I still 249 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: think at that position. And I've been asked a lot 250 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: about this, and they're still gonna be looking, I hope. 251 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there'll be another you know, handle 252 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: car Rashid or I saw something somebody tweeted something today 253 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: that maybe Quincy Rochet might be for the Giants. I mean, 254 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how the Thibodeau injury helped him, but yeah, don't. 255 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that would help that at all. But 256 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: there'll be somebody out there that there'll be a brand 257 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: name guy. I think, yeah, some IV your veteran and 258 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: ear better and somebody like who's got a handful of 259 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: starts under his belt. And they may even have a 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: good idea who that is or yeah, I'm sure even 261 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: you Yeah, the way that works, folks, I've been asked 262 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: about this before as well. Do they scout you know, 263 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: they scout other teams camps. We can't scout somebody's camp 264 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: unless it is a paid unless they're charging fans to 265 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: come in. So, for example, when the Steelers practice uh 266 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: and during training camp out at Latrow Memorial Stadium, because 267 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: there's because there's a there's a price of emission paid there, 268 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: other teams can then send scouts in to that practice, 269 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they do or not. Um 270 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: that's because that would be coming in for one practice. 271 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: It probably isn't worth the travel because that was a 272 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: big deal. I think it was. I think it was Washington, 273 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: this is probably six or seven years ago now was 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: actually charging its fans to come in to watch training 275 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: camp practices, which then opens it up so when you're 276 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: charging hands, other teams can then have their guys come 277 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: in and legally watch your practice. So the gray area 278 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: there to me is the Steelers you have to get 279 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a ticket to come to. It doesn't cost anything. That's 280 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: different as long as you're not charging r NFL rules. 281 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: If the Ravens sent someone to every one of those practice, yes, okay, 282 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you probably get away with it as long as they're 283 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: not wearing Raven gear. Yeah you you might. You might 284 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: get away with it. But if you got caught, now 285 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: now you're back into you know, it's kind of a 286 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: gentleman's agreement type thing that hey, we're not gonna do this. 287 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's against the rules, and if you get 288 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: caught doing those kind of things, well you're gonna pay 289 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: the price for it. Interestingly, you know that I think 290 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: I've told you told people this before, but that's one 291 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: of the few times of the year the drafts of 292 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: the other where all the area scouts are there joint camp, 293 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: and back in my day, they would send all those 294 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: area scouts out to Panthers bills not to watch McCaffrey 295 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, but here's a list that pen names 296 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: for both teams that we think might get cut that 297 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: would maybe be useful to us. And I was just 298 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, talking to a couple of Steeler scouts now 299 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, we still do that, but tape 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: so much easier, Like I don't have to be it's all, 301 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: it's all, it's immediate, you know, it's at your fingertips 302 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: all the time. Not that we have tape back then, 303 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: but I used to have to go walk down the basement, 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: get a beta, stick it in my machine in my 305 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: room and brainy, it wouldn't be you know, now you're 306 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: getting high and you know when it was gonna be ready, 307 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, so this stuff it's there immediately. They probably 308 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: watch it on their phones, you know, so they don't 309 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: even travel as much as they used to. And I 310 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: think COVID also put the kibosh on that a little 311 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: bit too, and they realized why bother. That's the one 312 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: big thing every other team. I think COVID changed so 313 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: much of the scouting process. They realize, You realize that, hey, 314 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: we don't need to do a lot of this stuff 315 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: that we were doing. We just did it because that's 316 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: how it was always done. Yes, and I think people 317 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: know this too, But every team also has a pro 318 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: scouting department. I was in charge of the NFC West, 319 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: who was not on the Brown schedule, so I had 320 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: a grade on all their dudes. I mean at this point, 321 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have a grade on ninety camp bodies, but 322 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: I knew the top fifty, top six at that time. 323 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: So you know, they they've added to the numbers at camp, 324 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: but they've also then you know, there's more guys getting 325 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: cut loose. Now we're at eighty, you know, two weeks 326 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: into this, so, but you know, they're not going to 327 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: be any surprises at this point. I think there might 328 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: be a couple, but I mean you're already seeing articles 329 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: on ESPN and Pro Football Focus, and these could be 330 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: the quote surprise cuts. Then they're not surprising because somebody's 331 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: leaking into you you know, like Kenyan Drake got cut. Okay, 332 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Aaron Rodgers getting cut, you know, like, 333 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean nothing, It is Kenyan Drake that surprising. He's 334 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: expensive and he's just the guy, you know. Yeah, I mean, 335 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: and they've got other guys that they've you know, as 336 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: soon as you know they drafted with Shaw White, well 337 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: somebody's you know, yeah, and I think they brought him 338 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Bolden from the Patriots to play special teams. So it's 339 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: like this one is really crowded all of a sudden. Yeah, 340 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: So that I mean, that's kind of the way it 341 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: goes here. But they do they do some scouting of 342 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: other teams in the preseason, particularly if if it's a 343 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: team that they're going to play in the regular season. Oh, 344 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: there's definitely that there's scouting stuff that's already taken place 345 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in the past like for example, 346 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: like I guarantee you the Bengals are going to be 347 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: watching the Drabinsky tape, every snap of it over from 348 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: last week game and they'll watch this week's game. Uh yeah, 349 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: because you got to see what it's gonna look like. 350 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Uh it's Traubinsky talked about that today said, look, you know, 351 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: we we're a we're we're not doing a ton of 352 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: game planning for these games, but B we don't want 353 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: to put too much out there. No, they're not gonna 354 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: show him every you know, you're not gonna show them everything. 355 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: You can show them like, oh here it is, fellas 356 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: have at it. You know they have a little bit 357 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: of the surprise factor there, yea, Like you know, we're 358 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: gonna do different things. Every team does some different things. 359 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: But I know how the Bangals are gonna play. You know, 360 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: they go again. We've talked about that over the years 361 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: that you know, the Steelers for years never changed anything. 362 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, that same offensive coordinator, the same defensive coordinator, 363 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the same quarterback, it's all the same. Well, this year, 364 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, the offensive coordinators obviously changing things even 365 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: though he was here that last year, and you've got 366 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: new quarterbacks. I mean, you and I have thrown some 367 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: things out there without breaking secrets that we think will 368 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: be a new look and things that teams haven't seen 369 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: before from this team. And of course it's going to 370 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: be noticeably different from last year. But it'll be fun 371 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: to see it live, you know. I mean if if 372 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: all the stuff that we've seen through practice and being 373 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: around the team comes to fruition on game days, you know, 374 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: starting Sunday two weeks a couple weeks from now, so 375 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: there's always little wrinkles, I know. I mean again, I 376 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: get I did my life chat today on on the 377 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: d K Pittsburgh Sports, and you know, I get asked 378 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: questions like, what's this defense gonna look like? With with 379 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: Tarall Austin is the as it's a coordinator. I'm like, 380 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. I think they're gonna be You're 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: going to see more defensive back packages, um, you know, 382 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: than we've seen in the past, but it's not going 383 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: to be remarkably different. No, I don't think still t J. 384 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Watt coming off the edge is stillkay. I'm Heyward coming 385 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: up the middle. Block that stuff first, and then you 386 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: worry about the other stuff. I mean, but of course 387 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: no offense to Austin. If Flores would have been the offense, 388 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: they have been named defensive coordinator and Austin was head 389 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: coach somewhere else or whatever, then I'd be like, they 390 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: might be drastically different. I don't know that Tom here anyways, 391 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: and it's been working forever, right. You don't change, you 392 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: don't fix what's broken. Now. You could say, well, there 393 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: are some things that were broken last year, Yes, but 394 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: some of that was injury related. A lot of it 395 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: was injury related. I don't know. It's necessarily personnel. I 396 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't know today. You and I were talking briefly off 397 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: the air that Bill Barnwell put a thing out about 398 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Steelers are one of his five teams that he thinks 399 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: will win fewer games than last year. Okay, I mean, 400 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: they have to get the tend and for everybody wrong, 401 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: so it's not like he's going out in some crazy limb. 402 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: But he was talking about the defense and he said 403 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: they faced the most difficult slate of offenses of any 404 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: defense in the league last year, and they had the 405 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: hardest schedule of anyone league and the offense didn't help 406 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: him at all either. And I guess they were twenty 407 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: second in points allowed, but they were like twelve in 408 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: d v O A. I think they were four teens. Maybe, Yeah, 409 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: I was. It was in that ballpark, you know. That's more. 410 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, So it wasn't awful. They weren't the past. 411 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: Defense wasn't bad, and obviously they led the league. You know, 412 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: turnovers were down for the third or fight because you 413 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: can teams weren't you know, they didn't have to throw 414 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: on they just weren't gonna do it. And you're gonna 415 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: protect your quarterbacks as much as possible, and you do 416 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: that by running the football. To me, is the one 417 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: thing I don't know. I'd have to go back and look, 418 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know that there's probably ever been a 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: team that was last in rushing defense that led to 420 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: league in sacks. Yeah. Right, that's really hard to do. 421 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: It really hard to do because I'm never getting him 422 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: in third and long. Yeah, went in doubt run it 423 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: of course. No, that's interesting. I bet that the answer 424 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: is now maybe no one's even been in the top 425 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: five of either let alone be a team that's last 426 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: in rushing defense and in the bottom half and what 427 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: runch offense and make the playoffs. That's tough to do 428 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: to I mean, so that to to built Barnwell's point. 429 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I get what he's saying about the Steelers, and we've 430 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: talked about that. Yeah, you don't have you lose Roethlisberger's 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: mental game in the fourth quarter the fourth quarter comebacks, 432 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: but you also gain much a great, much greater mobility 433 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. That I mean, you know, again, 434 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I'll go back to what Rubisky was talking about today. 435 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's just like his ability to scramble and 436 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: still keep his eyes down the field on some stuff 437 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: Steeler wide receivers. Whereas ten years ago I knew exactly 438 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: what to do in those situations. Now, your teach these guys, Hey, 439 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the play alive and we're gonna get 440 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: us We're gonna get some shot opportunities there because I'm 441 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna scramble around back there and we're gonna 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: try to make a play. That's a that's a skill. 443 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: That's a skill. When I was new to being around 444 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: football as a profession, I kind of thought these scramble 445 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: drills are dumb, I mean, because it's all random, it's chaos. 446 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: You don't know. I'm sure Ben and Wilson are better 447 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: at it than Matt Shop, you know, but there there's cues. 448 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason A B was the guy 449 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: Ben found on those scramble drills all the time, or 450 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Tyreek s the one my home finds all the time. 451 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's rules still even though it's six seven 452 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: seconds into the into the play, so you're gotta see 453 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: where the quarterbacks going, which side he's rolling the field, 454 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: he's rolling to And if you're on the opposite side 455 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: of the field, you better get across the field and 456 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: say you can't make him make an impossible throw. And 457 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: the always and my homes still do sometimes and and 458 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: Ben made his share as well. And the other things 459 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: true too, is this dude's been covering me four or 460 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: five seconds. He's still kind of in my hip pocket. 461 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: But I got a crazy quarterback. I don't have to 462 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I can go deep. I keep going for just keep going. 463 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: And that's what you saw. Deante Johnson examined that game 464 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: the other day and they just they just missed Heed. 465 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: He said to what I'd like to have back? I 466 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I threw it to one spot. Deante thought, obviously going 467 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else with it. I mean that would at very 468 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: least game and and I'm sure they repped it and 469 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: talked about it and saidden. Next time, I would prefer 470 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: he did this deal done. You know, so there is report. 471 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: It's not a random situation. No, it's not random at all. 472 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: I mean teams do work on those kind of things 473 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: and and guys do talk about it. Here's what I want. 474 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: I know Ben talked about it with with his receivers 475 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: over the years. I mean, hines world would go deep 476 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: in those situations when you know, when he was young 477 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: and he's nothing close to being a burner, but he 478 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: but give me enough time, I'm gonna get down the field. 479 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure some people look at the ops a 480 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: way to like this is an easy time for me 481 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: to turn this into a comeback route because everyone's worried 482 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: about getting beat over the top. Boom, eighteen yards, let's go. 483 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well maybe you know you worked that out. Okay, 484 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: the tight end's gonna work the underneath, and you know 485 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: they the receiver on that opposite side is gonna go 486 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: along and the other guy's gonna cut it off, and 487 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: you know, but you get those are the things that 488 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: you work on in the preseason. But you're right, I 489 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: mean nine out of ten quarterbacks if they're on the 490 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: right hash or in that neighborhood and you're on the 491 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: left hask right like, you might as well start coming 492 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: across the field and break your route, flood the zone. 493 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I 494 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: am Dale, Lala. You're listening to the Drive here on 495 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Well, we'll be back with more here 496 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: on the Drive right after this