Speaker 1: All right, thanks Scott Shan in an hour two Sean
Speaker 1: Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine to four one Seawn
Speaker 1: our number if you want to be a part of
Speaker 1: the program. Well, I keep talking about the Daniel Penny
Speaker 1: case because I think it's so relevant, this case that
Speaker 1: never should have been brought. It was a malicious prosecution
Speaker 1: on the part of Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 2: By far.
Speaker 1: The best coverage was my friend, my colleague, judge Janine
Speaker 1: Piro of the hit show The Five. She'll join us
Speaker 1: in a second, and she got the first interview with
Speaker 1: Daniel Penny, the only interview to date, and it was.
Speaker 2: Very, very powerful.
Speaker 1: Let me play portions of this where he slams the
Speaker 1: policies that failed New Yorkers. Remember, you know this guy,
Speaker 1: Jordan Neely had what forty two run ins with the
Speaker 1: police prior to this. He never should have been on
Speaker 1: that subway train. Don't forget the testimony from eyewitness after
Speaker 1: eyewitness talked about how they feared for their lives. One
Speaker 1: African American woman testifying in the trials saying thank you
Speaker 1: to Daniel Penny, smiling at him from the witness stand.
Speaker 1: And of course, then the antics that I believe, you know,
Speaker 1: were just just so corrupt by the DA's office. This
Speaker 1: guy should not be a DA in any city or
Speaker 1: any town or any municipality anyway. Here's Penny slamming the
Speaker 1: policies that failed New Yorkers, then talking about how Jordan
Speaker 1: Neely was threatening to kill people, and describing the subway
Speaker 1: when Jordan Neely got on it. Let me play a
Speaker 1: substantial part of this interview so you understand the context
Speaker 1: of what Daniel Penny had to deal with that day.
Speaker 3: These public officials wouldn't do something so self serving.
Speaker 2: Does it serve them to hurt you just political gain.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are their policies that are and I
Speaker 3: don't mean to get political. I don't really want to
Speaker 3: make any enemies really, although I guess I have already,
Speaker 3: But I mean these these are their policies that I've
Speaker 3: clearly not worked, that the people, the general population are
Speaker 3: not in support of. Yet their egos are too big
Speaker 3: just to admit admit that they're wrong, just very aggressively.
Speaker 2: Kind of like ran on and stumbled on.
Speaker 3: That's you know, as New Yorkers, you kind of come
Speaker 3: to accept that is unfortunately a normal occurrence.
Speaker 2: And what was he saying, what was he doing?
Speaker 4: What drew your attention to him?
Speaker 2: Well, you know I noticed him at first.
Speaker 3: When he came on, you know, and the doors closed,
Speaker 3: and as soon as the doors closed, he was carrying
Speaker 3: a jacket and he whipped the jacket down and it
Speaker 3: landed on the feet I was standing, and it landed
Speaker 3: on the feet of the passenger sitting down next to me,
Speaker 3: and the zipper made.
Speaker 2: A very audible noise. It was very loud, very aggressive, and.
Speaker 3: At that point the train car went completely silent. It
Speaker 3: was it almost felt as like it felt like a vacuum,
Speaker 3: and there's like this hollow feeling. And that's when I
Speaker 3: first kind of gave him my full attention.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the train becomes silent, What if anything does
Speaker 4: he say?
Speaker 3: You know, he first comes on and he starts demanding things.
Speaker 3: He's demanded three different things. You know, he's certain types
Speaker 3: of food, certain types of drinks, and you know, things
Speaker 3: that like some type of fast food, and that he
Speaker 3: was he was willing to go to jail forever if
Speaker 3: he didn't get these things.
Speaker 2: And then it kind of escalated.
Speaker 3: You were saying, you repeated, I was going to go
Speaker 3: to jail for life, I'm willing to hurt people, I'm
Speaker 3: willing to kill people.
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill people.
Speaker 3: And is this keep in mind, this is all within
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds of him getting on the train, and it
Speaker 3: was this escalation of violence and threatening behavior that it
Speaker 3: was just.
Speaker 2: It was pretty.
Speaker 4: Serious when he said he was willing to kill people.
Speaker 2: Did you believe him? Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: It was unlike you know, because there's outbursts on the
Speaker 3: train all the time.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately in New York City, there's.
Speaker 3: There's always people coming on and saying kind of talking crazy,
Speaker 3: and this was unlike anything that I've ever experienced, and
Speaker 3: it was it was very serious. It was I completely
Speaker 3: believed what he was saying.
Speaker 4: It was what was the reaction by the fellow subway riders.
Speaker 3: Well, when, like I said, when there was that silence,
Speaker 3: when there was that vacuum, I mean everybody was had
Speaker 3: Like he got everybody's attention.
Speaker 4: How close was he to the people as he was
Speaker 4: telling them or saying I'm going to kill someone?
Speaker 3: He started off in the middle of the of the train,
Speaker 3: by the pole, and then he would in that in
Speaker 3: that escalation, he would he started to get in people's
Speaker 3: faces within a foot of people.
Speaker 2: What was there. There was a woman with a baby in.
Speaker 3: A carriage, children, kids going to school, coming back from school.
Speaker 3: It was just like it was. It was what you'd
Speaker 3: expect on a normal New York City subway train or
Speaker 3: subway car. He was yeah, the mother was was holding
Speaker 3: her child, and the school kids were protecting themselves or
Speaker 3: holding each other, and just people were stuck their chairs
Speaker 3: and they felt pinned. And I felt pinned, I felt nervous,
Speaker 3: I felt scared.
Speaker 1: All right joining us now, she had this exclusive interview.
Speaker 1: Friend of the program, also co host of the hit
Speaker 1: show of the five Friend of Mine, judged Janine Piros
Speaker 1: with us, Judge, I will tell you all throughout the trial,
Speaker 1: and I did comment to you about this privately and
Speaker 1: publicly on the air on Fox News. You had superb coverage,
Speaker 1: and it was in the middle of a presidential election,
Speaker 1: which made your life that much harder. But you really
Speaker 1: cared about this, and with your background as a DA
Speaker 1: and a prosecutor, you are the perfect person to be
Speaker 1: in that courtroom.
Speaker 2: As often as you are.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for your gratitude and your compliments. I
Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Look, I've been Alvin Bragg I've been
Speaker 4: the elected DA and I've been the judge in that
Speaker 4: courtroom as well as an elected county judge. So I mean,
Speaker 4: that's kind of my wheelhouse. It's New York. But it
Speaker 4: was clear to me from the get go that this
Speaker 4: was a case that never should have been brought, as
Speaker 4: you've been saying for many, many months now, because Alvin
Speaker 4: Bragg is a leftist, progressive prosecutor funded by George Sorrows.
Speaker 4: This was a case that was brought because of color,
Speaker 4: and the prosecutor's office tried to make this a case
Speaker 4: about race and racism, but it was totally rejected by
Speaker 4: the jury and by everyone on that subway train. And
Speaker 4: you know you said it right. There was an African
Speaker 4: American lady who smiled from the witness stand. And Danny
Speaker 4: Penny was so eloquent in that interview when he talked
Speaker 4: about the fact that the gratitude and the thanks from
Speaker 4: the people on that subway car would overcome, as he
Speaker 4: said it a million days of court appearances, all the
Speaker 4: name calling and all the hate. He said, he only
Speaker 4: has to think back to the people who thanked him.
Speaker 4: This guy, Danny Penny is he is an American hero.
Speaker 4: And when you've got these people like Alvin Bragg and
Speaker 4: you mentioned malicious prosecution, I think they should go for that.
Speaker 4: But there's another piece to it, Sewan, and that isn't
Speaker 4: the medical examiner lied on the oath. The medical examiner
Speaker 4: said one thing in the grand jury and one thing
Speaker 4: at the trial regarding the pressure at the neck. She
Speaker 4: said she couldn't tell if there was persistent consistent pressure
Speaker 4: in the grand jury testimony. And at the trial, of
Speaker 4: course she's pro prosecution. Oh yeah, there's consistent persistent pressure.
Speaker 4: That's number one, same medical examiner. Number two, the chief
Speaker 4: medical examiner gets involved after the autopsy's done and decides
Speaker 4: it's a homicide. They don't wait for toxicology, histology, anthropology.
Speaker 4: Why is that relevant? Because this guy had enough K
Speaker 4: two in his system to make him that aggressive, incredibly
Speaker 4: strong first in nation.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know what K two is,
Speaker 1: but it's a very poltent, powerful drug that literally makes
Speaker 1: people crazy.
Speaker 4: It makes me crazy, and this guy's already crazy. He
Speaker 4: was in the middle of a psychotic break, remember, Sean.
Speaker 4: He was on a list of fifty the most dangerous
Speaker 4: mentally ill homeless people in a city of eight million people.
Speaker 4: He's identified as one of the fifty. He was arrested
Speaker 4: forty two times, arrested within a seven year period. He
Speaker 4: had an open warrant for decking in a sixty four
Speaker 4: or sixty eight year old woman and breaking your orbital bumps.
Speaker 4: That day he had arrassed another woman on the subway
Speaker 4: car on the subway platform. So let's not kit each other.
Speaker 4: You not only had a DA who was political, but
Speaker 4: you had a medical examiner who actually came out Sean
Speaker 4: and said, I don't care if there's enough fetanyl to
Speaker 4: kill an elephant. This is a strangulation. Now, Sewna tried
Speaker 4: strangulation cases. There was no FATIGUEI I think there were
Speaker 4: two little dots in They showed the eyelid. And these
Speaker 4: lawyers are great Teniff and Razor, Steve rasor Tom Kaniff.
Speaker 4: There's no PANDIKII. There was no damage to the hyoid bone.
Speaker 4: The high bone is the Adams apple, none of that stuff.
Speaker 4: And they didn't even wait for the test. And he
Speaker 4: was he had sickle cell disease. He was sickling as
Speaker 4: he died. So you've got a psychotic break. You've got
Speaker 4: him on K two an incredibly a strong drug. It's
Speaker 4: cannabinoid synthetic. People are crazy on it. They're very strong,
Speaker 4: and even Penny said in the interview with me, he said, look,
Speaker 4: he was above me and he picked me up as
Speaker 4: I wrapped myself around him. We were on the floor
Speaker 4: and he was strong enough to pick me up with him.
Speaker 4: And then you had the stress from the fight. So
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they want to make this a
Speaker 4: George Floyd situation. No, and the jury of blacks, Hispanics,
Speaker 4: Asians and white, just like the people on that subway car,
Speaker 4: just like New York City said no, you're not going
Speaker 4: to sell us this nonsense. And that's why Donald Trump won.
Speaker 4: People want the truth, they want law and order. They
Speaker 4: want to be able to go on a subway car
Speaker 4: and know that there's a hero like Danny Penny who
Speaker 4: is willing to give it up and go to prison.
Speaker 4: I said, were you ready to go? He said yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was humble.
Speaker 4: Kind. This guy wants no attention none. And when they
Speaker 4: came in to take pictures of him at my interview,
Speaker 4: they took one. He said no more.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll come right back. More with
Speaker 1: Judge Janine Piro more of her exclusive interview with Daniel
Speaker 1: Penny on the other side. Then we'll get to your
Speaker 1: phone calls. Eight hundred nine four one, Shawn our number
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.
Speaker 1: All right, but continue now with my friend, my colleague
Speaker 1: of the hit show The Five. Judge Janine Piro is
Speaker 1: with us. We'll get to your calls coming up. Eight
Speaker 1: hundred and nine to four one, Sean. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: listening to everything you're saying here. They tried to make
Speaker 1: this case about Ray, and then the closing arguments, the
Speaker 1: prosecutor again brought up the racial issue, but they didn't
Speaker 1: charge him with a hate crime, which they would have
Speaker 1: had they had any evidence that this was a racial
Speaker 1: case or a hate crime. They didn't want the toxicology
Speaker 1: report at all. It wasn't even ordered in the beginning.
Speaker 1: They just came to the conclusion they wanted to without
Speaker 1: doing their due diligence in the case. And what really
Speaker 1: offended me as well is after the jury deadlocked on
Speaker 1: the manslaughter charge, then Alvin Bragg comes in and he
Speaker 1: dismisses that charge, which, according to New York state law,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, No, the jury would need
Speaker 1: to come to a unanimous verdict. Otherwise the entire case,
Speaker 1: including the lesser charges, would be thrown out in New
Speaker 1: York State unless they came to a full verdict on that.
Speaker 1: And they did it on purpose against the law which
Speaker 1: is designed to prevent a compromised verdict that being defined
Speaker 1: as oh okay, well, they're thrown out the other charge,
Speaker 1: and I guess that means they only think he's guilty
Speaker 1: of the lesser charge. And the odds go up significantly
Speaker 1: when they do that, But the law is designed to
Speaker 1: prevent that.
Speaker 4: Right, right, You're absolutely right there, Sean. Look, I think
Speaker 4: that this was the turning point for the jury, and
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. They go to the judge they say, Judge,
Speaker 4: we can't agree on manslaughter in the second degree, for
Speaker 4: which you face up to fifteen years in prison, and
Speaker 4: the judge gives them an Allen charge, which I would
Speaker 4: give all the time, and basically say go back and
Speaker 4: try to share your views again. Judge gives them another
Speaker 4: Allen charge when they come back. And then they come
Speaker 4: back and they say, no, we can't, we can't agree.
Speaker 4: Instead of dismissing everything that the prosecutor says, Judge, we
Speaker 4: wanted Smith just the manslaughter and keep the rest of it,
Speaker 4: and the judge went along with it. Now, I've been
Speaker 4: doing this for almost four decades, I have never seen
Speaker 4: that done. And what they were trying to do is
Speaker 4: coerce the jury. And this is when I think Sean,
Speaker 4: the normal jury might have come back and said, yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe we can still, you know, hang on the krim
Speaker 4: neg like we had criminally negligent homicide, like on the
Speaker 4: manslaughter in the second degree. They came back in an
Speaker 4: hour and they said, not guilty, David.
Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing about that, And Jonathan Turley
Speaker 1: pointed this out is the person that was most surprised
Speaker 1: by this verdict was likely Alvin Bragg because they probably thought, oh,
Speaker 1: we got him on the lesser charge. At least that's
Speaker 1: a partial victory for them. But I've just again, I
Speaker 1: do have to compliment you. You did a phenomenal job. I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful for your coverage and grateful you shared that
Speaker 1: interview both here and on Fox News, and we appreciate
Speaker 1: all you. Judge Bureau, You're the best.
Speaker 4: Thank you, love you, good bye.
Speaker 2: Love you back.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you just can't trust your own eyes.
Speaker 1: You can't trust your own ears. You can't trust the
Speaker 1: videos that we've all seen and the pictures that we've
Speaker 1: all seen. At least if you listen to John Kirby
Speaker 1: in the Biden administration, you know, the first sighting of
Speaker 1: this drone was on November the eighteenth. This was over
Speaker 1: New Jersey, now also over New York and parts of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: But the administration now says that it's probably not happening
Speaker 1: at all. Here's John Kirby, National Security Advisor, basically saying, nah,
Speaker 1: none of this is true.
Speaker 5: Listen, using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided by federal authorities,
Speaker 5: we have not been able to and neither of state
Speaker 5: or local law enforcement authorities corroborate any of the reported
Speaker 5: visual sightings.
Speaker 1: Really, none of it's true. No evidence of drone sightings
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, and there is no safety threat at all,
Speaker 1: no foreign nexus. And anyway, I mean pressed about this,
Speaker 1: you know, they just continue to stick to the story.
Speaker 1: Now the more the longer this goes on, and the
Speaker 1: lack of urgency they are showing tells me and I
Speaker 1: was more con it was either two choices to me.
Speaker 1: Either they just don't know anything, which would be the
Speaker 1: scarier scenario for me, because considering our capabilities as the
Speaker 1: United States of America and the biggest military power on
Speaker 1: the face of the earth. You know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: believe and I'd like to think that we'd be able
Speaker 1: to figure this out in less than twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: If you have drones forty nine sightings this past Sunday,
Speaker 1: the size of a bus, with the sound of a Harley,
Speaker 1: and so many people, you know, giving testimony and I
Speaker 1: witness testimony that they've seen it. Anyway, here is the
Speaker 1: police dispatch audio where caller is stating a drone fell
Speaker 1: out of the sky near power lines and ten more
Speaker 1: drones showed up.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Count crazy, What was the exact call?
Speaker 4: This crash or crash partical?
Speaker 3: Drones fell out of the sky by the power lines
Speaker 3: behind their house, and then ten more showed up.
Speaker 1: All right here to help well unpack what's going on.
Speaker 1: Here is Representative Zachnna of Iowa. He is a US
Speaker 1: Air Force colonel. He was an airborne operations officer overseeing
Speaker 1: drone strikes and counterintelligence against the Chinese. And they're drones
Speaker 1: and he's certain that these drones in New Jersey because
Speaker 1: eighty percent of drones in this country are made in China.
Speaker 1: He believes they came from China anyway, And we have
Speaker 1: Jeff and Andrew, who the congressman from New Jersey, thinks
Speaker 1: they came from Iran. But the bottom line is the
Speaker 1: government's not telling us anything anyway. Congressman None are great
Speaker 1: to have you on the program. Thank you for your
Speaker 1: military service, and we appreciate your time. What do you
Speaker 1: when you hear about a drone the size of a
Speaker 1: school bus or bigger or the size of a dining
Speaker 1: room table and it sounds like a Harley Davidson do
Speaker 1: you believe in any way, shape, batter, or form that
Speaker 1: we don't know where these drones originated from, who's operating
Speaker 1: these drones, and what these drones might be capable of
Speaker 1: regarding either surveillance or maybe even having a military payload
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 6: Sean, you've highlighted just a spectrum of threat vector coming
Speaker 6: in here. We know a couple of things right now. One,
Speaker 6: the overwhelming majority of drones come from DJTU. It's a
Speaker 6: Chinese made production facility in China, still has software tied
Speaker 6: to China. We also know that the indigenous capability of
Speaker 6: some of our greatest adversaries, that of a raw which
Speaker 6: you highlighted, and just earlier this year sent hundreds of
Speaker 6: attack drones over Israel over other countries, were able to
Speaker 6: be intercepted, but had only one intent. The destruction of
Speaker 6: folks across Israel are real. We also recognized the United
Speaker 6: States lags behind in our drone technology and oftentimes even
Speaker 6: US manufactured drones still have foreign software operations systems. Now
Speaker 6: here's also what we know. We know we've got New
Speaker 6: Jersey State Police who were in a helicopter flying above
Speaker 6: a drone and when they approached it, it was a
Speaker 6: large airborne vehicle that then turned off its lights and
Speaker 6: attempted to go as much as a drone can help,
Speaker 6: but they had to disengage because they were afraid that
Speaker 6: there could be a mid air mishap. We know for
Speaker 6: a fact that we have an entire Coastguard cutter that
Speaker 6: was surrounded by a dozen plus drones and followed throughout
Speaker 6: to see off the coast of Jersey, and that when
Speaker 6: they came in and made their report that it was
Speaker 6: substantiated by Homeland Security. We also know for a fact
Speaker 6: that Homeland Security felt so concerned about this that they
Speaker 6: briefed members of Congress and members of the government there
Speaker 6: in New Jersey, both law enforcement and elected officials. And
Speaker 6: as of today, we also know that the White House
Speaker 6: says there's nothing to see here, in the same way
Speaker 6: there was nothing to see about Joe Biden's cognitive decline,
Speaker 6: in the same way there was nothing to see that Afghanistan,
Speaker 6: a place where I serve for decades, would fall apart overnight,
Speaker 6: And there was nothing to see when we left Americans
Speaker 6: behind in Afghanistan or when Israel was attacked. We're now
Speaker 6: supposed to take the word of John Kirby that there
Speaker 6: is nothing to see over the skies of New Jersey.
Speaker 6: And clearly, whether you ask law enforcement, whether you ask government,
Speaker 6: where you ask kids on the Jersey Shore, they've all
Speaker 6: seen it with their own eyes. This is now a
Speaker 6: difficult challenge that we're forced to yet again believe that
Speaker 6: the White House knows better than what the American people
Speaker 6: have seen with their own eyes, and that they have
Speaker 6: dissuaded us from understanding what is happening. When you're absolutely right,
Speaker 6: this is something we should have been able to track down,
Speaker 6: be transparent about and get the info out for safety reasons.
Speaker 6: And this is flying over your house or your community
Speaker 6: to the people in New Jersey and the people of
Speaker 6: America in a matter of hours, not days, and now
Speaker 6: going on months.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, a drone this big,
Speaker 1: the size of a bus, what would its capability be?
Speaker 1: And more and more as time goes on and they
Speaker 1: show a lack of urgency, Why do I suspect they
Speaker 1: know exactly what these drones are doing, where they came from,
Speaker 1: they know everything about them, and maybe even they're the
Speaker 1: ones that are testing them. Is that a possibility?
Speaker 6: So, as an intelligence officer and a member of Congress,
Speaker 6: let me be very clear about what we know, and
Speaker 6: I'll speak to that verset. What we know is a
Speaker 6: drone of that size, and it's been reported that some
Speaker 6: of these may have been the size of and a
Speaker 6: sub maybe even up to the size of a bus.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 6: Is flying over New Jersey right now because our federal
Speaker 6: agency is responsible for this. The FAA and Homeland Security
Speaker 6: have not been transparent with us. But any platform that size,
Speaker 6: whether it's hovering, whether it's a fixed wing, which would
Speaker 6: mean like our version of a predator drone would be
Speaker 6: able to carry a payload, as we've seen just in
Speaker 6: US operations over the Middle East, a hell fire type
Speaker 6: of weapon if that were to be included. But we've
Speaker 6: also seen what are non traditional actors like the Iranians,
Speaker 6: like the Chechens have done with drones. They've attached explosive
Speaker 6: ordinance and been able to use these as suicide style drones.
Speaker 6: They can go in target a vector very quickly and
Speaker 6: fly into a cause and impact. This is also at
Speaker 6: a minimum a flight hazard. You're supposed to have an
Speaker 6: FAA license to be able to pilot a non hobbyist drone,
Speaker 6: which is what the Homeland Security Department has told us.
Speaker 6: These are not hobbyist drones before they told us they
Speaker 6: didn't exist, and so a danger to flight operations in
Speaker 6: the area, whether you're a helicopter or a smaller light
Speaker 6: aircraft also is directly impeded. I think the secondary, more
Speaker 6: likely scenario for drones in this situation would be for surveillance,
Speaker 6: both visual as well as electronic. And then certainly one
Speaker 6: of the things that I think is in the realm
Speaker 6: of the possible here as a professional assessment, would be
Speaker 6: a mass testing of drones, and we haven't informed other
Speaker 6: sectors of the government. And that's equally concerning that we
Speaker 6: have testing going on over US territory that has not
Speaker 6: included potentially other key partners in the area for safety
Speaker 6: of flights, safety of civilians, and just safety of operations
Speaker 6: in open air space. Any type of testing that should
Speaker 6: be done with the drones should be over a closed
Speaker 6: range where we have complete awareness of what else is
Speaker 6: happening in that airspace, and ideally in a situation where
Speaker 6: we're not putting the US civilians at risk in the type.
Speaker 4: Of an operation.
Speaker 1: All right, click, Frank, We'll come back more with Congressman
Speaker 1: Zach Nunn of Iowa as we talk about the administration
Speaker 1: just slat out denying that these drones even exist in
Speaker 1: spite of all the eyewitness testimony we've heard and spottings
Speaker 1: that we've heard about, and the videos and the pictures
Speaker 1: we've all seen. Pretty unbelievable. I think we're just flat
Speaker 1: out being lied to. Anyway, more with the Congressman on
Speaker 1: the other side than we'll get to your calls and
Speaker 1: much more coming up eight hundred and nine to four one, Shawn,
Speaker 1: as we continue.
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Speaker 1: All right, we continue now talking about the mystery drone
Speaker 1: issue over the state of New Jersey with Congressman Zach
Speaker 1: Nunn of Iowa. Is there any chance that there are drones?
Speaker 1: Then they're doing testing, but they just don't want to
Speaker 1: tell those for national security reasons.
Speaker 6: If that is their cover story, then that is a
Speaker 6: horrible cover story. We have entire areas of operation again
Speaker 6: as a career Air Force officer out at Knellus in
Speaker 6: places in the desert where we can test these types
Speaker 6: of operations. Even if we needed something on a coastal
Speaker 6: environment to do this, there is still a clear delineation
Speaker 6: to close air space in coordination with the civilian authorities
Speaker 6: like the FAA. So if they failed to do that,
Speaker 6: if they've now been caught out in the public doing testing,
Speaker 6: and I will put an asterik on here, that's an if.
Speaker 6: If that's the situation, then this is a failure of
Speaker 6: policy and administration that continues to be non transparent and
Speaker 6: potentially has put civilian and first respond your lives at
Speaker 6: risk by flying exercise or testing elements over an open
Speaker 6: population that should never happen to begin with, not without
Speaker 6: close coordination in any case. If this is commercial, if
Speaker 6: this is foreign, and if this is something I think
Speaker 6: that is cleared to everybody, it's not truly understood, not
Speaker 6: even by folks in the White House, then we have
Speaker 6: an obligation to get to the ground truth on this
Speaker 6: and determine definitively. Look, this is not hypothetical. This is
Speaker 6: something that we can assess today. Whether there are actual
Speaker 6: drones operating over US airspace over so.
Speaker 1: Well, Congressman, I know people that as a hobby they
Speaker 1: have these little baby drones and they fly them for
Speaker 1: fun and sometimes in some areas, you know what, you
Speaker 1: get in trouble for flying them, and the authorities are
Speaker 1: able to find out where they originated from almost immediately.
Speaker 1: So you know, you're never going to convince me that
Speaker 1: they can't figure out where these originated from, who's operating them,
Speaker 1: and what their capabilities are, And that just means they're
Speaker 1: flat out lying to us, or if they're that utterly incompetent,
Speaker 1: then I cannot believe. I am. I am stunned at
Speaker 1: the lack of our capabilities, But you know we do
Speaker 1: have I Rdian assassination squads in the country. We also
Speaker 1: know that we have known terrorists in the country, and
Speaker 1: murderers and rapists and other violent criminals and gang members
Speaker 1: and cartel members. So I guess that nothing with this
Speaker 1: administration surprises me. But if we don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to identify where these things came from, that is chilling,
Speaker 1: and they're telling us they don't exist really pisses me off.
Speaker 6: John, You're absolutely right. This is the worst of both
Speaker 6: worlds because we're dealing with a Biden administration that is
Speaker 6: both incompetent and consistent only in the fact that they lie.
Speaker 6: So when dealing with this, the reality is, here's what
Speaker 6: we know. Again, we have hundreds of noviduals who came
Speaker 6: to this country illegally on terrorists watch lists, not to
Speaker 6: mention the tens of millions who came here under false pretense.
Speaker 6: The second aspect is the technology alone we recognize is
Speaker 6: most likely foreign built related, because that's the reality of
Speaker 6: the drone industry. Particularly beyond what these hobby small drones
Speaker 6: are that my neighbor kids are flying over, or that
Speaker 6: you know, you might see a football game, these are
Speaker 6: the type of Syrian professional drones that would be operated
Speaker 6: in a commercial or military capacity for things like surveying, assessment,
Speaker 6: recon all the way up to a military operation capability,
Speaker 6: some of which could be operated half the world away
Speaker 6: based on modern day technology for their operations. Holding these
Speaker 6: folks leable should be operation number one for the White House,
Speaker 6: and instead they've said these things don't even exist, which
Speaker 6: is again.
Speaker 1: You last question is yes or no. Do you believe
Speaker 1: they're flat out lying to the American.
Speaker 6: People based on the information we have right now?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Wow, anyway, Congressman none of Iowa. We do appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Eight hundred
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