1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Scott Shan in an hour two Sean 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine to four one Seawn 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: our number if you want to be a part of 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: the program. Well, I keep talking about the Daniel Penny 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: case because I think it's so relevant, this case that 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: never should have been brought. It was a malicious prosecution 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: on the part of Alvin Bragg. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: By far. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: The best coverage was my friend, my colleague, judge Janine 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Piro of the hit show The Five. She'll join us 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: in a second, and she got the first interview with 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Penny, the only interview to date, and it was. 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Very, very powerful. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Let me play portions of this where he slams the 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: policies that failed New Yorkers. Remember, you know this guy, 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Jordan Neely had what forty two run ins with the 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: police prior to this. He never should have been on 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: that subway train. Don't forget the testimony from eyewitness after 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: eyewitness talked about how they feared for their lives. One 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: African American woman testifying in the trials saying thank you 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: to Daniel Penny, smiling at him from the witness stand. 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: And of course, then the antics that I believe, you know, 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: were just just so corrupt by the DA's office. This 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: guy should not be a DA in any city or 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: any town or any municipality anyway. Here's Penny slamming the 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: policies that failed New Yorkers, then talking about how Jordan 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Neely was threatening to kill people, and describing the subway 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: when Jordan Neely got on it. Let me play a 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: substantial part of this interview so you understand the context 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: of what Daniel Penny had to deal with that day. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: These public officials wouldn't do something so self serving. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Does it serve them to hurt you just political gain. 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, these are their policies that are and I 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: don't mean to get political. I don't really want to 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: make any enemies really, although I guess I have already, 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: But I mean these these are their policies that I've 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: clearly not worked, that the people, the general population are 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: not in support of. Yet their egos are too big 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: just to admit admit that they're wrong, just very aggressively. 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: Kind of like ran on and stumbled on. 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: That's you know, as New Yorkers, you kind of come 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: to accept that is unfortunately a normal occurrence. 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: And what was he saying, what was he doing? 44 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: What drew your attention to him? 45 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know I noticed him at first. 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: When he came on, you know, and the doors closed, 47 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: and as soon as the doors closed, he was carrying 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: a jacket and he whipped the jacket down and it 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: landed on the feet I was standing, and it landed 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: on the feet of the passenger sitting down next to me, 51 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: and the zipper made. 52 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: A very audible noise. It was very loud, very aggressive, and. 53 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: At that point the train car went completely silent. It 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: was it almost felt as like it felt like a vacuum, 55 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: and there's like this hollow feeling. And that's when I 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: first kind of gave him my full attention. 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: Okay, so the train becomes silent, What if anything does 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: he say? 59 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: You know, he first comes on and he starts demanding things. 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: He's demanded three different things. You know, he's certain types 61 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: of food, certain types of drinks, and you know, things 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: that like some type of fast food, and that he 63 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: was he was willing to go to jail forever if 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: he didn't get these things. 65 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: And then it kind of escalated. 66 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: You were saying, you repeated, I was going to go 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: to jail for life, I'm willing to hurt people, I'm 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: willing to kill people. 69 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to kill people. 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: And is this keep in mind, this is all within 71 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: fifteen seconds of him getting on the train, and it 72 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: was this escalation of violence and threatening behavior that it 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: was just. 74 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: It was pretty. 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: Serious when he said he was willing to kill people. 76 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Did you believe him? Yeah, totally. 77 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: It was unlike you know, because there's outbursts on the 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: train all the time. 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately in New York City, there's. 80 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: There's always people coming on and saying kind of talking crazy, 81 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: and this was unlike anything that I've ever experienced, and 82 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: it was it was very serious. It was I completely 83 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: believed what he was saying. 84 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: It was what was the reaction by the fellow subway riders. 85 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: Well, when, like I said, when there was that silence, 86 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: when there was that vacuum, I mean everybody was had 87 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: Like he got everybody's attention. 88 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: How close was he to the people as he was 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 4: telling them or saying I'm going to kill someone? 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: He started off in the middle of the of the train, 91 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: by the pole, and then he would in that in 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: that escalation, he would he started to get in people's 93 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: faces within a foot of people. 94 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: What was there. There was a woman with a baby in. 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: A carriage, children, kids going to school, coming back from school. 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: It was just like it was. It was what you'd 97 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: expect on a normal New York City subway train or 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: subway car. He was yeah, the mother was was holding 99 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: her child, and the school kids were protecting themselves or 100 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: holding each other, and just people were stuck their chairs 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: and they felt pinned. And I felt pinned, I felt nervous, 102 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: I felt scared. 103 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: All right joining us now, she had this exclusive interview. 104 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Friend of the program, also co host of the hit 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: show of the five Friend of Mine, judged Janine Piros 106 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: with us, Judge, I will tell you all throughout the trial, 107 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: and I did comment to you about this privately and 108 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: publicly on the air on Fox News. You had superb coverage, 109 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: and it was in the middle of a presidential election, 110 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: which made your life that much harder. But you really 111 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: cared about this, and with your background as a DA 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: and a prosecutor, you are the perfect person to be 113 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: in that courtroom. 114 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: As often as you are. 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: Well, thank you for your gratitude and your compliments. I 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Look, I've been Alvin Bragg I've been 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: the elected DA and I've been the judge in that 118 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: courtroom as well as an elected county judge. So I mean, 119 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: that's kind of my wheelhouse. It's New York. But it 120 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: was clear to me from the get go that this 121 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: was a case that never should have been brought, as 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: you've been saying for many, many months now, because Alvin 123 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: Bragg is a leftist, progressive prosecutor funded by George Sorrows. 124 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: This was a case that was brought because of color, 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: and the prosecutor's office tried to make this a case 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: about race and racism, but it was totally rejected by 127 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: the jury and by everyone on that subway train. And 128 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: you know you said it right. There was an African 129 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: American lady who smiled from the witness stand. And Danny 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: Penny was so eloquent in that interview when he talked 131 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: about the fact that the gratitude and the thanks from 132 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: the people on that subway car would overcome, as he 133 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: said it a million days of court appearances, all the 134 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: name calling and all the hate. He said, he only 135 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: has to think back to the people who thanked him. 136 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: This guy, Danny Penny is he is an American hero. 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 4: And when you've got these people like Alvin Bragg and 138 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: you mentioned malicious prosecution, I think they should go for that. 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: But there's another piece to it, Sewan, and that isn't 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: the medical examiner lied on the oath. The medical examiner 141 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: said one thing in the grand jury and one thing 142 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: at the trial regarding the pressure at the neck. She 143 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: said she couldn't tell if there was persistent consistent pressure 144 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: in the grand jury testimony. And at the trial, of 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: course she's pro prosecution. Oh yeah, there's consistent persistent pressure. 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: That's number one, same medical examiner. Number two, the chief 147 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: medical examiner gets involved after the autopsy's done and decides 148 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: it's a homicide. They don't wait for toxicology, histology, anthropology. 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: Why is that relevant? Because this guy had enough K 150 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: two in his system to make him that aggressive, incredibly 151 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: strong first in nation. 152 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know what K two is, 153 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: but it's a very poltent, powerful drug that literally makes 154 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: people crazy. 155 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: It makes me crazy, and this guy's already crazy. He 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: was in the middle of a psychotic break, remember, Sean. 157 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: He was on a list of fifty the most dangerous 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: mentally ill homeless people in a city of eight million people. 159 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: He's identified as one of the fifty. He was arrested 160 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: forty two times, arrested within a seven year period. He 161 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: had an open warrant for decking in a sixty four 162 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: or sixty eight year old woman and breaking your orbital bumps. 163 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: That day he had arrassed another woman on the subway 164 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: car on the subway platform. So let's not kit each other. 165 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: You not only had a DA who was political, but 166 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: you had a medical examiner who actually came out Sean 167 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: and said, I don't care if there's enough fetanyl to 168 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: kill an elephant. This is a strangulation. Now, Sewna tried 169 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: strangulation cases. There was no FATIGUEI I think there were 170 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: two little dots in They showed the eyelid. And these 171 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: lawyers are great Teniff and Razor, Steve rasor Tom Kaniff. 172 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: There's no PANDIKII. There was no damage to the hyoid bone. 173 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: The high bone is the Adams apple, none of that stuff. 174 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: And they didn't even wait for the test. And he 175 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: was he had sickle cell disease. He was sickling as 176 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: he died. So you've got a psychotic break. You've got 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: him on K two an incredibly a strong drug. It's 178 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: cannabinoid synthetic. People are crazy on it. They're very strong, 179 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: and even Penny said in the interview with me, he said, look, 180 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 4: he was above me and he picked me up as 181 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: I wrapped myself around him. We were on the floor 182 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: and he was strong enough to pick me up with him. 183 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: And then you had the stress from the fight. So 184 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they want to make this a 185 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: George Floyd situation. No, and the jury of blacks, Hispanics, 186 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: Asians and white, just like the people on that subway car, 187 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: just like New York City said no, you're not going 188 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: to sell us this nonsense. And that's why Donald Trump won. 189 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: People want the truth, they want law and order. They 190 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: want to be able to go on a subway car 191 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: and know that there's a hero like Danny Penny who 192 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: is willing to give it up and go to prison. 193 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: I said, were you ready to go? He said yeah, yeah. 194 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: I was humble. 195 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: Kind. This guy wants no attention none. And when they 196 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: came in to take pictures of him at my interview, 197 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 4: they took one. He said no more. 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll come right back. More with 199 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Judge Janine Piro more of her exclusive interview with Daniel 200 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Penny on the other side. Then we'll get to your 201 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: phone calls. Eight hundred nine four one, Shawn our number 202 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. 203 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: All right, but continue now with my friend, my colleague 204 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: of the hit show The Five. Judge Janine Piro is 205 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: with us. We'll get to your calls coming up. Eight 206 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: hundred and nine to four one, Sean. You know, I'm 207 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: listening to everything you're saying here. They tried to make 208 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: this case about Ray, and then the closing arguments, the 209 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: prosecutor again brought up the racial issue, but they didn't 210 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: charge him with a hate crime, which they would have 211 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: had they had any evidence that this was a racial 212 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: case or a hate crime. They didn't want the toxicology 213 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: report at all. It wasn't even ordered in the beginning. 214 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: They just came to the conclusion they wanted to without 215 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: doing their due diligence in the case. And what really 216 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: offended me as well is after the jury deadlocked on 217 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: the manslaughter charge, then Alvin Bragg comes in and he 218 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: dismisses that charge, which, according to New York state law, 219 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, No, the jury would need 220 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: to come to a unanimous verdict. Otherwise the entire case, 221 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: including the lesser charges, would be thrown out in New 222 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: York State unless they came to a full verdict on that. 223 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: And they did it on purpose against the law which 224 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: is designed to prevent a compromised verdict that being defined 225 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,479 Speaker 1: as oh okay, well, they're thrown out the other charge, 226 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: and I guess that means they only think he's guilty 227 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: of the lesser charge. And the odds go up significantly 228 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: when they do that, But the law is designed to 229 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: prevent that. 230 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: Right, right, You're absolutely right there, Sean. Look, I think 231 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: that this was the turning point for the jury, and 232 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. They go to the judge they say, Judge, 233 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: we can't agree on manslaughter in the second degree, for 234 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: which you face up to fifteen years in prison, and 235 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: the judge gives them an Allen charge, which I would 236 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: give all the time, and basically say go back and 237 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: try to share your views again. Judge gives them another 238 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: Allen charge when they come back. And then they come 239 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 4: back and they say, no, we can't, we can't agree. 240 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: Instead of dismissing everything that the prosecutor says, Judge, we 241 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: wanted Smith just the manslaughter and keep the rest of it, 242 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: and the judge went along with it. Now, I've been 243 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: doing this for almost four decades, I have never seen 244 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: that done. And what they were trying to do is 245 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: coerce the jury. And this is when I think Sean, 246 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: the normal jury might have come back and said, yeah, 247 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: maybe we can still, you know, hang on the krim 248 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: neg like we had criminally negligent homicide, like on the 249 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: manslaughter in the second degree. They came back in an 250 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: hour and they said, not guilty, David. 251 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing about that, And Jonathan Turley 252 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: pointed this out is the person that was most surprised 253 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: by this verdict was likely Alvin Bragg because they probably thought, oh, 254 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: we got him on the lesser charge. At least that's 255 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: a partial victory for them. But I've just again, I 256 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: do have to compliment you. You did a phenomenal job. I'm 257 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: very grateful for your coverage and grateful you shared that 258 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: interview both here and on Fox News, and we appreciate 259 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: all you. Judge Bureau, You're the best. 260 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, love you, good bye. 261 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Love you back. 262 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, I guess you just can't trust your own eyes. 263 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: You can't trust your own ears. You can't trust the 264 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: videos that we've all seen and the pictures that we've 265 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: all seen. At least if you listen to John Kirby 266 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: in the Biden administration, you know, the first sighting of 267 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: this drone was on November the eighteenth. This was over 268 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: New Jersey, now also over New York and parts of Pennsylvania. 269 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: But the administration now says that it's probably not happening 270 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: at all. Here's John Kirby, National Security Advisor, basically saying, nah, 271 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: none of this is true. 272 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: Listen, using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided by federal authorities, 273 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 5: we have not been able to and neither of state 274 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 5: or local law enforcement authorities corroborate any of the reported 275 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: visual sightings. 276 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Really, none of it's true. No evidence of drone sightings 277 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, and there is no safety threat at all, 278 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: no foreign nexus. And anyway, I mean pressed about this, 279 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, they just continue to stick to the story. 280 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Now the more the longer this goes on, and the 281 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: lack of urgency they are showing tells me and I 282 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: was more con it was either two choices to me. 283 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Either they just don't know anything, which would be the 284 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: scarier scenario for me, because considering our capabilities as the 285 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: United States of America and the biggest military power on 286 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: the face of the earth. You know, I'd like to 287 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: believe and I'd like to think that we'd be able 288 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: to figure this out in less than twenty four hours. 289 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: If you have drones forty nine sightings this past Sunday, 290 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the size of a bus, with the sound of a Harley, 291 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: and so many people, you know, giving testimony and I 292 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: witness testimony that they've seen it. Anyway, here is the 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: police dispatch audio where caller is stating a drone fell 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: out of the sky near power lines and ten more 295 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: drones showed up. 296 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 297 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Count crazy, What was the exact call? 298 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: This crash or crash partical? 299 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: Drones fell out of the sky by the power lines 300 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: behind their house, and then ten more showed up. 301 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: All right here to help well unpack what's going on. 302 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Here is Representative Zachnna of Iowa. He is a US 303 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Air Force colonel. He was an airborne operations officer overseeing 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: drone strikes and counterintelligence against the Chinese. And they're drones 305 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: and he's certain that these drones in New Jersey because 306 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: eighty percent of drones in this country are made in China. 307 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: He believes they came from China anyway, And we have 308 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: Jeff and Andrew, who the congressman from New Jersey, thinks 309 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: they came from Iran. But the bottom line is the 310 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: government's not telling us anything anyway. Congressman None are great 311 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: to have you on the program. Thank you for your 312 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: military service, and we appreciate your time. What do you 313 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: when you hear about a drone the size of a 314 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: school bus or bigger or the size of a dining 315 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: room table and it sounds like a Harley Davidson do 316 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: you believe in any way, shape, batter, or form that 317 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: we don't know where these drones originated from, who's operating 318 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: these drones, and what these drones might be capable of 319 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: regarding either surveillance or maybe even having a military payload 320 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: on them. 321 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 6: Sean, you've highlighted just a spectrum of threat vector coming 322 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 6: in here. We know a couple of things right now. One, 323 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 6: the overwhelming majority of drones come from DJTU. It's a 324 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 6: Chinese made production facility in China, still has software tied 325 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 6: to China. We also know that the indigenous capability of 326 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 6: some of our greatest adversaries, that of a raw which 327 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: you highlighted, and just earlier this year sent hundreds of 328 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: attack drones over Israel over other countries, were able to 329 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 6: be intercepted, but had only one intent. The destruction of 330 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 6: folks across Israel are real. We also recognized the United 331 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 6: States lags behind in our drone technology and oftentimes even 332 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 6: US manufactured drones still have foreign software operations systems. Now 333 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 6: here's also what we know. We know we've got New 334 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 6: Jersey State Police who were in a helicopter flying above 335 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 6: a drone and when they approached it, it was a 336 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 6: large airborne vehicle that then turned off its lights and 337 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 6: attempted to go as much as a drone can help, 338 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 6: but they had to disengage because they were afraid that 339 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 6: there could be a mid air mishap. We know for 340 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 6: a fact that we have an entire Coastguard cutter that 341 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 6: was surrounded by a dozen plus drones and followed throughout 342 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 6: to see off the coast of Jersey, and that when 343 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 6: they came in and made their report that it was 344 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 6: substantiated by Homeland Security. We also know for a fact 345 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 6: that Homeland Security felt so concerned about this that they 346 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: briefed members of Congress and members of the government there 347 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 6: in New Jersey, both law enforcement and elected officials. And 348 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 6: as of today, we also know that the White House 349 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 6: says there's nothing to see here, in the same way 350 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 6: there was nothing to see about Joe Biden's cognitive decline, 351 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 6: in the same way there was nothing to see that Afghanistan, 352 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: a place where I serve for decades, would fall apart overnight, 353 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 6: And there was nothing to see when we left Americans 354 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 6: behind in Afghanistan or when Israel was attacked. We're now 355 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 6: supposed to take the word of John Kirby that there 356 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: is nothing to see over the skies of New Jersey. 357 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 6: And clearly, whether you ask law enforcement, whether you ask government, 358 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: where you ask kids on the Jersey Shore, they've all 359 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 6: seen it with their own eyes. This is now a 360 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 6: difficult challenge that we're forced to yet again believe that 361 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 6: the White House knows better than what the American people 362 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 6: have seen with their own eyes, and that they have 363 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 6: dissuaded us from understanding what is happening. When you're absolutely right, 364 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 6: this is something we should have been able to track down, 365 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 6: be transparent about and get the info out for safety reasons. 366 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 6: And this is flying over your house or your community 367 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: to the people in New Jersey and the people of 368 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: America in a matter of hours, not days, and now 369 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 6: going on months. 370 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, a drone this big, 371 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: the size of a bus, what would its capability be? 372 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: And more and more as time goes on and they 373 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: show a lack of urgency, Why do I suspect they 374 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: know exactly what these drones are doing, where they came from, 375 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: they know everything about them, and maybe even they're the 376 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: ones that are testing them. Is that a possibility? 377 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 6: So, as an intelligence officer and a member of Congress, 378 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: let me be very clear about what we know, and 379 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 6: I'll speak to that verset. What we know is a 380 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 6: drone of that size, and it's been reported that some 381 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 6: of these may have been the size of and a 382 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 6: sub maybe even up to the size of a bus. 383 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 384 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: Is flying over New Jersey right now because our federal 385 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 6: agency is responsible for this. The FAA and Homeland Security 386 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 6: have not been transparent with us. But any platform that size, 387 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 6: whether it's hovering, whether it's a fixed wing, which would 388 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 6: mean like our version of a predator drone would be 389 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 6: able to carry a payload, as we've seen just in 390 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 6: US operations over the Middle East, a hell fire type 391 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 6: of weapon if that were to be included. But we've 392 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 6: also seen what are non traditional actors like the Iranians, 393 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: like the Chechens have done with drones. They've attached explosive 394 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 6: ordinance and been able to use these as suicide style drones. 395 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 6: They can go in target a vector very quickly and 396 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 6: fly into a cause and impact. This is also at 397 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 6: a minimum a flight hazard. You're supposed to have an 398 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 6: FAA license to be able to pilot a non hobbyist drone, 399 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 6: which is what the Homeland Security Department has told us. 400 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 6: These are not hobbyist drones before they told us they 401 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 6: didn't exist, and so a danger to flight operations in 402 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 6: the area, whether you're a helicopter or a smaller light 403 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 6: aircraft also is directly impeded. I think the secondary, more 404 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 6: likely scenario for drones in this situation would be for surveillance, 405 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: both visual as well as electronic. And then certainly one 406 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 6: of the things that I think is in the realm 407 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 6: of the possible here as a professional assessment, would be 408 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: a mass testing of drones, and we haven't informed other 409 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 6: sectors of the government. And that's equally concerning that we 410 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 6: have testing going on over US territory that has not 411 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 6: included potentially other key partners in the area for safety 412 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 6: of flights, safety of civilians, and just safety of operations 413 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: in open air space. Any type of testing that should 414 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 6: be done with the drones should be over a closed 415 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 6: range where we have complete awareness of what else is 416 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 6: happening in that airspace, and ideally in a situation where 417 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 6: we're not putting the US civilians at risk in the type. 418 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: Of an operation. 419 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: All right, click, Frank, We'll come back more with Congressman 420 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Zach Nunn of Iowa as we talk about the administration 421 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: just slat out denying that these drones even exist in 422 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: spite of all the eyewitness testimony we've heard and spottings 423 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: that we've heard about, and the videos and the pictures 424 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: we've all seen. Pretty unbelievable. I think we're just flat 425 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: out being lied to. Anyway, more with the Congressman on 426 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: the other side than we'll get to your calls and 427 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: much more coming up eight hundred and nine to four one, Shawn, 428 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: as we continue. 429 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: The final hour of the Sean Hannity Show was up next. 430 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 6: Hang on for Sean's Conservative solutions. 431 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: All right, we continue now talking about the mystery drone 432 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: issue over the state of New Jersey with Congressman Zach 433 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Nunn of Iowa. Is there any chance that there are drones? 434 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Then they're doing testing, but they just don't want to 435 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: tell those for national security reasons. 436 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: If that is their cover story, then that is a 437 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 6: horrible cover story. We have entire areas of operation again 438 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: as a career Air Force officer out at Knellus in 439 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: places in the desert where we can test these types 440 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 6: of operations. Even if we needed something on a coastal 441 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 6: environment to do this, there is still a clear delineation 442 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 6: to close air space in coordination with the civilian authorities 443 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 6: like the FAA. So if they failed to do that, 444 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 6: if they've now been caught out in the public doing testing, 445 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: and I will put an asterik on here, that's an if. 446 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 6: If that's the situation, then this is a failure of 447 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 6: policy and administration that continues to be non transparent and 448 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 6: potentially has put civilian and first respond your lives at 449 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 6: risk by flying exercise or testing elements over an open 450 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: population that should never happen to begin with, not without 451 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 6: close coordination in any case. If this is commercial, if 452 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 6: this is foreign, and if this is something I think 453 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 6: that is cleared to everybody, it's not truly understood, not 454 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: even by folks in the White House, then we have 455 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 6: an obligation to get to the ground truth on this 456 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 6: and determine definitively. Look, this is not hypothetical. This is 457 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 6: something that we can assess today. Whether there are actual 458 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 6: drones operating over US airspace over so. 459 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, Congressman, I know people that as a hobby they 460 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: have these little baby drones and they fly them for 461 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: fun and sometimes in some areas, you know what, you 462 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: get in trouble for flying them, and the authorities are 463 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: able to find out where they originated from almost immediately. 464 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: So you know, you're never going to convince me that 465 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: they can't figure out where these originated from, who's operating them, 466 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: and what their capabilities are, And that just means they're 467 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: flat out lying to us, or if they're that utterly incompetent, 468 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: then I cannot believe. I am. I am stunned at 469 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: the lack of our capabilities, But you know we do 470 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: have I Rdian assassination squads in the country. We also 471 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: know that we have known terrorists in the country, and 472 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: murderers and rapists and other violent criminals and gang members 473 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: and cartel members. So I guess that nothing with this 474 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: administration surprises me. But if we don't have the ability 475 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: to identify where these things came from, that is chilling, 476 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: and they're telling us they don't exist really pisses me off. 477 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 6: John, You're absolutely right. This is the worst of both 478 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 6: worlds because we're dealing with a Biden administration that is 479 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 6: both incompetent and consistent only in the fact that they lie. 480 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 6: So when dealing with this, the reality is, here's what 481 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 6: we know. Again, we have hundreds of noviduals who came 482 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 6: to this country illegally on terrorists watch lists, not to 483 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 6: mention the tens of millions who came here under false pretense. 484 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 6: The second aspect is the technology alone we recognize is 485 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 6: most likely foreign built related, because that's the reality of 486 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 6: the drone industry. Particularly beyond what these hobby small drones 487 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 6: are that my neighbor kids are flying over, or that 488 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 6: you know, you might see a football game, these are 489 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 6: the type of Syrian professional drones that would be operated 490 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 6: in a commercial or military capacity for things like surveying, assessment, 491 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 6: recon all the way up to a military operation capability, 492 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 6: some of which could be operated half the world away 493 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 6: based on modern day technology for their operations. Holding these 494 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: folks leable should be operation number one for the White House, 495 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: and instead they've said these things don't even exist, which 496 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: is again. 497 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: You last question is yes or no. Do you believe 498 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: they're flat out lying to the American. 499 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: People based on the information we have right now? 500 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: Yes? 501 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Wow, anyway, Congressman none of Iowa. We do appreciate you, 502 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Eight hundred 503 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: ninety four one Seawn our number if you want to 504 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: be a part of the program.