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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: The World's a pigeon podcas Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: Getting Ready for Christmas? 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Getting ready for Yead was like the baby Jesus born 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: at Christmas Day in swaddling clothes. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: That's what mother says. My mother tell the story. 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 5: She's like I was out shopping in my water Brook 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 5: on the subway. 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: I thought she was going to say, we were looking 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: for a place to stay and no one would. We 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: finally found barn. When you lose anyone who is a 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: starter or a next in game like every other team. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: But it's when it's when you lose Joe Burrow that 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: you separate. 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: But can you can you let me finish? 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: He had never identified a mic point in his life 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 4: until he came to New England. 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: I don't think he knows much about. But anyway, go ahead, right, 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: you're all out of your mind. I really do think 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: you're out of your mind. Do you think he didn't 27 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: know how to read a defense? 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't. 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: Okay, this playbook was as sophisticated as anything for anybody, 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: for him, for anybody beside him. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: To give you a laundry Tory Holt said the same thing. 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I just think identifying the mic is overrated. Don't you 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: think it's like, you know, is it a kind of 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: a guess? 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: You know? 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered. 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 6: Presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, buy a Toyota 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 6: dot com. 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, I just identified the mic. 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: It's it's overrated. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: It's overrated. 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: Why don't we go into a game and never identify 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: the MICAE Let's see how it goes? 44 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 7: Okay, but if you just identified something else, like the Paul. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no point. 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well. 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: About what I'm going to identify the Sam. 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: The problem is when you when you point to Will 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: and it's there is a say it's the mic, right 50 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 3: now you have Sam. That's not how I'm gonna I'm 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: gonna identify the robber. 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, with the Star. You should because you might. 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 7: You know, all of this is just day here. 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: It's football one with this is this is the last thing. 55 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 7: It's a preview of illustrator. 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: I'm just that the mic is not actually the mic linebacker. 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 4: We're all aware, correct, right. 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 7: Yes, I thought it was just a guy named Mike 59 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 7: on the defense. 60 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: Right, No, no, no, Michael, when you it's a bit, 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: it's a misconception that when he says, oh, fifty four 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 4: is the mic, that that means that he's the mic 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: linebacker in the defense. It's not. 64 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: So why do they call it the mic? 65 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: Just the terminology. 66 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: It's the middle of yeah. 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: And you know the Patriots they have playing. 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Here's the guy that we're going to key our blocking 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: scheme on. It's not key. 70 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: This is none of this is right, guys. 71 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: Otherwise you could just point to like John Bentley every 72 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: place it's the mic because he's the middle linebacker in 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: the Patriots defense. 74 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 7: Like the millennials like this guy's mid right, here's mid. Yeah, 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 7: I talk the language. Now, I'm hip. 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: You are very you are very hip. 77 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: All right, welcome that filtered. It is Wednesday here at 78 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium. I feel my mic is hot hot hot. 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Like I got to turn down by still you are 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: coming out of the show spitting fire. 81 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, sure could identified me. 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: Denver just got under another day closer. We're thinking maybe 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: snow in Denver for Sunday. 84 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 7: I mean, I hope so for you guys, that'll be beautiful. 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: A member of the football stat I want to be 86 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: able to get home. Tell me that they thought there 87 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: was a chance was like snow showers during the game. 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I remember remember Buffalo when they would have snow showers, 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: was like a blizzard. 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: Snow showers in Buffalo. Man, you weren't getting home the next. 91 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: Day, right, That's what I'm worried about it. 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 7: Imagine Denver's pretty bad that too, right with the showers 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 7: and stuff. 94 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Well, like I know the day before the game is 95 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: going to be like in the sixties. That's that's what 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: happens in Denver. It is. 97 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: That's not sexy, wild sexy at all. 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 7: I had a friend who lived in Colorado, and it 99 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 7: was always amazing to me how she talked about the 100 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 7: climate there, because you think it's cold, but it really 101 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 7: swings very warm, very cold, Like it's not what you 102 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 7: would think being up there in the Rockies, Right, My. 103 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 8: Sister lived there for a couple of months and she 104 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 8: said it was kind of like New England. 105 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, she come, does she brag about how warm it 106 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 7: actually is. That's what I got a lot of them 107 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 7: from my friend. She was always saying how great it 108 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 7: is there, but a lot of bitterness whatever from my 109 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 7: stupid Colorado. 110 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think if there's any Inland place 111 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I had to live, it would be like Denver would 112 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: be one of them. 113 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 7: Oh it's beautiful there. I've been there a couple of times. 114 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: I've never been, so I'm never you're going to check 115 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: one off. 116 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: You're going to check one off. 117 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: I am. I'm excited about that. That's about it cool. 118 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: Inland. 119 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: I think I live in Tennessee. 120 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, why country music? 121 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 7: Taxes beautiful? 122 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: You have a lot of wealth that you yet But 123 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: she's taking ahead about the contest that she's gonna win. 124 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: She's trying to figure out what's she going to do 125 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 3: with all that to hide this money. 126 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: That is the most alex answer I've ever heard, not like, 127 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 4: oh it's beautiful there. The taxes wait, like you don't 128 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: have to all the time. You can just think about it, 129 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 4: not that practically, am I Yes? 130 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 8: I like my money in my bank account count. I 131 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 8: just think Tennessee is a beautiful city. I think it's 132 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 8: really underrated Nashville. 133 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah about the rest of skirts, she said tenn is 134 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: not a city. 135 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: Oh I thought she said beautiful skirts of Nashville for sure. 136 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a pretty state. 137 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 7: I don't know. 138 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 5: We're talking Inland. I wouldn't want to live anywhere Inland. 139 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, but if I had to, sure, Denver 140 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: would be a place. 141 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a place. 142 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: This is the start of a three and eleven shows. 143 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So David and he just saw Zappy. 144 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: I did see him, Yeah, yeah, he was there. 145 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: And what did he have to say? 146 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think a lot of people right now, 147 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: fans us, everybody is just wondering, you know, what are 148 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: you playing for? Well, what's what's sort of your motivation 149 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: at this point of the season with the record being 150 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: what it is. And he just mentioned that he would 151 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: like to put together four quarters of of good football. 152 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: And I think that that's what we're all looking to 153 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: see if can you do it? You know, he's played 154 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: two good halves. Really, I mean I can. I don't 155 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 4: know about the Chiefs half was it was good. It 156 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: wasn't as good as Pittsburgh, but it was good. And 157 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: he's been a good quarterback in both those halves, and 158 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: in the second half he's a completely different person. It's 159 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: it's completely. 160 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Somebody one of the players should say, well, what's your 161 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: motivation for covering us? I say, well, it's our job. 162 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: Saying it's my job. 163 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: That's fair, you know, Yeah, I mean he just said, 164 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: you know, they're they're playing for themselves at this point, 165 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: which I get. But I think that in some areas 166 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: of the team, some people are playing for themselves a 167 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: little bit too much, if you catch my drift. 168 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: But freelancing, I caught that drift. 169 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: He said, what for ourselves? Like playing for pride? Thank you? 170 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: That's what That's what he was insinuating. But when he 171 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: when he said that, I thought of a few people 172 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: that I thought might be playing for themselves themselves, you know. 173 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 7: Care to elaborate at all? 174 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Maybe okay, maybe then they'll apologize tomorrow. 175 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 7: Yeah I was wrong to call them out. 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fred, I get your you know, the your job, 177 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: you know that, that's why we're all doing this too. 178 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: But don't you feel like we're doing it differently than 179 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: we normally would at this time of year, like we're 180 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: talking about different, that's right, And I think that's a 181 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: fair question from the media to wonder have the play 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the players have a job to do. 183 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: They're gonna go out and play and play as hard 184 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: as they can. But you just wonder, is the motivation different, 185 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 3: you know, for Kyle Duger today at three and eleven, 186 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: then it would be at eleven and three, right, Yeah, 187 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's just like you brought 188 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: up Kyle duggar. 189 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 7: Oh, such as therefore here two four I do. I mean, 190 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 7: I forget that. At least for us though, too. We 191 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 7: kind of have this like growing energy about the off 192 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 7: season that like, I mean, it's it's exciting, it's also 193 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 7: a little bit daunting when you know, you feel like 194 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 7: usually get to the end of the season and you're like, 195 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 7: all right, I have a chance to catch my breath, 196 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 7: and now it feels like it's all okay, this is 197 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 7: actually the off season now, because the off season is 198 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 7: gonna be the season this you know, spring, it's gonna 199 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 7: be crazy, all those things that we're looking forward to. 200 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 7: But you know, I think that's a little bit of 201 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 7: energy that's carrying me through these last few weeks of 202 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 7: just and I think anytime you get to see a 203 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 7: guy like Kevin Harris get out there in the field 204 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 7: and you know, run and running, have a big run, 205 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 7: run tough. 206 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously I'll never had the experience of being 207 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: a professional athlete, but I would think that in a 208 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: situation like this, while you're not playing to get to 209 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs or anything like that, I'd look at it 210 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to say, how how can I just 211 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: be the best player I can possibly be? And you 212 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: sort of don't have that pressure of, you know, we 213 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: have to win the game now, I just have to 214 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: focus on I have to do the best I can 215 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: do because everyone's watching me, you know. Yeah, I mean, 216 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean I could find motivation in other words. 217 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 7: And it's still like you're just you're playing a game 218 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 7: in front of yeah, tens of thousands of I mean, 219 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 7: I mean, it's got to be a little bit easy. 220 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 7: That's so sure to block out. 221 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: I'm serious. Like Christmas Eve. Did you watch any of 222 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: the Christmas Eve game last year? Like I didn't. 223 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Who was playing? 224 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't even know, I don't know. 225 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: I remember, yeah. 226 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 7: I was drinking eggnog and whiskey or something. 227 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, not this week, Like I just look at some 228 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: of this stuff. 229 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: It's a holiday ask kick I mean Classics. 230 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: One of the one of the best games of the 231 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: year is going to be uh in primetime on Christmas Night. 232 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: That that bums me out. Like you know, Buffalo, I 233 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: mean Baltimore San Francisco. That's a good matchup, might beat 234 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. And I don't know to put it. 235 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: I mean to put it on Christmas. 236 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Christmas, I got time, the kids have open all the packages. 237 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: Now you can settle down. 238 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: I just don't really have much interest in watching sports 239 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: on at Christmas. 240 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: Celtics Slackers at five, So yeah, like. 241 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure to be on in the background, but I 242 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: won't watch it like I would a normal game. 243 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 7: Oh no, like just taking notes mentally. 244 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm with my at all. I'm with my family. 245 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: I'm enjoying family time. I'm not into a game Christmas 246 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: Eve night, I mean Christmas Eve, especially because that's like 247 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: happening at night Christmas Day. Fred's right, you know, everything's 248 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: kind of done by eight o'clock. Maybe you could watch 249 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 3: San Francisco in Baltimore. But I got a question, I 250 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't watch a Christmas eve time time. 251 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 7: Get a little off the beaten path. We used to 252 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 7: be in the spot though, if you're those two teams 253 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 7: San Francisco Baltimore, you're coming into this game or are 254 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 7: you putting everything into it? Are you thinking any bit 255 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 7: of potential Super Bowl matchups? Are you? 256 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: You know? 257 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 7: Are you are you feeling like we need to win 258 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 7: this game? You know? What will be kind of I mean, 259 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 7: I know the Patriots have had games like I mean, 260 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 7: I'm not thinking of many off the top of my head, 261 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 7: but I don't want to say potential super Bowl preview, 262 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 7: but they had they need to get. 263 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: The number one seed. 264 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, I actually I think they'll they'll hide some things, 265 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 266 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're set some things up even. 267 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 7: I mean is that you. 268 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: Know, just especially like for those two teams, because their 269 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: offenses are so unique for different reasons that you know, 270 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: if you're the Ravens, like, are you really going to 271 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: run Lamar Jackson a bunch in this game? 272 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: No? 273 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: But if you're in the super Bowl, You're going to 274 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: run Lamar Jackson twenty times, you know. So I definitely 275 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: think that those that game will not be anything, like 276 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: if there is a Super Bowl between those two teams. 277 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think some of the Patriots Colts games, 278 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 7: good question. You know, Patriots Colts games, not that they 279 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 7: were all this late in the season, but you know, 280 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 7: just how they were kind of different. I mean, at 281 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 7: least you know three was what that was, you know, 282 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 7: a little bit more low scoring, whereas the first one 283 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 7: was really back and forth, and you know, in the thirties, 284 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 7: so that. 285 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: Was all about the venue. Yeah, like if they played 286 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: in the playoffs in Indy, it would have been another shoot. 287 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's good point. 288 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Now the Patriots might have won again. You know, the 289 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: Patriots could beat you anyway back in those days, low scoring, 290 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: high scoring, whatever you wanted. 291 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 7: It's just now it feels like you get down to 292 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 7: the NFL schedule and it's like these key games pop 293 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 7: up and you're like, ooh, you know, two teams that 294 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 7: you know could meet in the Super Bowl, could meet 295 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 7: in the AFC Championship. You start to get those little 296 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 7: nuggets at the end of the season, or it's like 297 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 7: crappy division games where one team has nothing to play 298 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 7: for and the other team is just getting ready. 299 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: I like Evan's point about the unique nature of the 300 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: two offenses though, because that's that's true. Like you, I 301 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: think you can go all out to win and not 302 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: necessarily call every play that you would in a desperate situation, 303 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: or it's not necessarily holding something back. It's just kind 304 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: of doing what's best for the team in the moment. 305 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: And to Evan's point, is running Lamar Jackson fifteen twenty 306 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: times best for you in week sixteen? Probably not. 307 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 7: I just wonder how much of the potential next matchup 308 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 7: is on their mind, just in terms of, Hey, how 309 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 7: are they going to react when we throw this at them? 310 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 7: You know, those kind of just little tests that you're 311 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: kind of maybe a little. 312 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: Better trial balloons. I like it. 313 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they also there's a road that you have to 314 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: go through to get there. 315 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 7: And no, I know that's that's I mean, and I 316 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 7: don't think you they'd ever share that with the players. 317 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 7: That would probably just be hey, let's throw this package 318 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 7: at them just to see how they kind of what 319 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 7: they line up against it in. 320 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an interesting way trying to get outside, 321 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: trying to get intelligence on the other team. 322 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: I definitely what do they do? 323 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: What do they do when. 324 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: We do this? Yeah? 325 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 7: Well, I know that that's always you know, and that's 326 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 7: a kind of a bill thing of you know, is 327 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 7: the game is establishing itself, and all right, we see 328 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 7: we're going to throw a bunch of personnel groups at 329 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 7: them and see, you know how they play us? You know, 330 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 7: what do they you know, how do they treat our 331 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 7: tight ends and that kind of stuff. So I don't know, 332 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 7: just some experimenting. I don't think it's anything that should 333 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 7: reach the psyche of the team, but you know, for 334 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 7: the coaching staff, maybe like, hey, let's let's try to 335 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 7: get a little bit of intel out of this in 336 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 7: case we need it down the road. 337 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: See that's real, is a nose talk. 338 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Let's go of you. 339 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 7: That's right. 340 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good question. I hadn't really 341 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: even just looked at it. 342 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just well, Fred identified me as the 343 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 7: mic and you came through. 344 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna are we gonna read it? Linda? 345 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 9: Now? 346 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 7: Probably not, but we're hoping to run leak on that, 347 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 7: so you know, that'll be great. 348 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: I like Stick. 349 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: I can talk to every high school team in the 350 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: country like Stick. 351 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: Just I make fun of Brady for that. It's like 352 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: the old clip when he's talking it, Drew and like, 353 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: you know, what do you want to what do you like? 354 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 7: I like stick literally, which is not surprising, right, like 355 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 7: a young quarter. 356 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: White white head. 357 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: Should mention that David Andrews won the Good Guy Award 358 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: this year. 359 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: I did not know that and was not asked to vote. 360 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Explain what that is. 361 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: So it's the. 362 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: Media Good Guy Award, which is basically who represents and 363 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: fulfills their media obligations the best represents the team and 364 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: works with the media the best throughout the player, all 365 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: the players, and you know past winners, Uh, we've had 366 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers obviously, Devin mccordy, Matthew Slater, those types of guys. 367 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: Cam Newton actually won it the year he was here. 368 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: Judn won it last year, yep. 369 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: And uh, and Jacoby was a couple of years ago. 370 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: For ju Judna was two years ago. Jacoby was last year. Yeah, 371 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: Jacoby won it for his how he handled the Vegas 372 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: It was literally over at doubt, the voting was over 373 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 4: at that. 374 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: That's a good pick though. Andrews is a good Yeah. 375 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that it was. I voted for David 376 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: Andrews and I just feel like he coming out after 377 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: all these losses, unfortunately, and being the first one to 378 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: dress the fans the media post game. I think is 379 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: is a real stand up guy. Like he comes on 380 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: that podium basically still in uniform, like he's got his 381 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: obviously his shoulder pads are off, but his game pants 382 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: are still on half the time, and he's just comes 383 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: up there and answers questions about why, you know, same questions, 384 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: you know, why do you guys lose again? Why why 385 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: did this happen? Why did that happen? And has been 386 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: a real real stand up guy. I think it shows 387 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: a lot that he's the first one every single week 388 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: and not a head coach Andrews. 389 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Are there any other offensive linemen that ever go to 390 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: the podium. 391 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: Like in terms of the post game for the painos, No, 392 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: not really no. 393 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 10: No. 394 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 7: He also just wears his heart on his sleeve. And 395 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 7: you know, of all the players that like, maybe does 396 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 7: this matter to them, like it clearly matters to him 397 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 7: after every loan, his losses, you can just you can 398 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 7: just see it in his face, his body language, everything, 399 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 7: He's He's still taking these tough Yeah. 400 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean I understand that this is probably not that 401 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: important to fans, but there's been some really really difficult 402 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: losses for the team this year and some some losses 403 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: that are frankly were not great optics wise. And uh, 404 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: him beating Bill to the podium every single time always 405 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: sticks with me. It's like, you know, we're in Germany 406 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 4: and Mac throws a game losing interception, Zappy throws a 407 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: game losing interception, and it's not the head coach that 408 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: goes to the podium first missed a five game losing streak. 409 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: It's the center and you know, a player. And I 410 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: think that that shows a lot of character on David Andrews. 411 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Awards. 412 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: No, no, no act. It's actually a really really nice 413 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: piece of crystal and it lights up and has his 414 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: face on it and says, yeah, it's actually a really 415 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: nice piece of piece of hardware. He's he's got And uh, 416 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 4: then there's a in the media worker room, there's like 417 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: a list of all of them on a plaque, and 418 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: so his name obviously will go go on the plaque. 419 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: It is. 420 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: We talked. 421 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Fella is a good guy. Oh yeah, Hobson was awesome, 422 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: good dick fame, Yeah, all right, eight five five pats 423 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: five hundred is the a sticket Hotline web radio at 424 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: patries dot com some other news. Aaron Rodgers said, it's 425 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: doubtful and today's the deadline, so. 426 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: He's being activated for some reason. But he oh he 427 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 4: is yeah, money, it just came out that he's being activated. 428 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: But maybe money, Yeah, maybe, I don't know. But he's 429 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: not playing. He's definitely not playing. 430 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Well. 431 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 7: I kind of wanted that, so I wanted him to 432 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 7: play against the Patriots here. 433 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: So he's not playing at all, correct, because I know 434 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: he has to be activated today in order to be 435 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: eligible to play. But I don't really understand why you 436 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: would activate him if he's not going to play. My 437 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: guess is that he's trying to leave the door open. 438 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I know yesterday he said it he's not ready now yeah, 439 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: so I guess. 440 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: So according to Schefter, this just came out like twenty 441 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: five minutes ago from both guys, he's being activated and 442 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: he wants to be activated so he can continue practicing 443 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: with the team. But he's not. 444 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: But he's not playing, okay, team right? Yeah. I mean 445 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of a lot of Aaron Rodgers criticisms 446 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: making their way around the Twitter machine today and yesterday, 447 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: and listen, I'm no, big Aaron Rodgers guy, I've been fred. 448 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: I think I was well ahead of the curve on 449 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: sort of you know, reading between the lines of his nonsense. 450 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: I caught I caught onto his act I think before 451 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: most did. Let's put it that way. He's getting a 452 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: lot of criticism for like self destructing the Jets season, 453 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: like and I don't really understand that, Like he's an 454 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: attention grabber like if no, but he kept himself in 455 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: the news all year, like only Aaron Rodgers can. I 456 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: think all the criticism of that is one hundred percent inaccurate. 457 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: Like he knew that he probably wasn't going to be 458 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: able to play. He likes to poke fun at modern medicine, 459 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: like I know more than you you know, I can 460 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: do this. I can do that. As if it's not 461 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 3: like a set amount of time that it, you know, 462 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: minimal to recover from something like this. I can do 463 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: it because I'm taking some you know, stem cells, right, 464 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: you know, some nonsense that whatever isn't going to help 465 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: me come back. So all that criticism might get, but 466 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: I just don't understand how he sabotaged the Jets season 467 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: by doing this. The Jets had all the ability in 468 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: the world to go out and sign a backup quarterback 469 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: and chose not to. They could have They could have 470 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: made a trade for case Keenum, who won a game 471 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: for Houston yesterday in a playoff race or Sunday, like 472 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: they could have made a move for Joe Flacco, who 473 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: was available to anybody who's won a couple of games. 474 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: On their team last year. 475 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: So this had nothing to do with Aaron rod unless 476 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: there's something I don't know about it. Aaron Rodgers behind 477 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: the scenes was saying, no, no, you do not do that, Like, 478 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: I don't understand why that's Aaron Rodgers's fault. The rest 479 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: of it is all Aaron Rodgers's fault, like the fact 480 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: that he's on Pat McAfee every week trying you know, 481 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: he's he's one of the top three storylines in the 482 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: NFL this year. Yeah, and he didn't play. He played 483 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: four plays, Like that's on Aaron Rodgers refreshment memory. 484 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 7: How did he end up with the Jets? What do 485 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 7: they did they have to trade trade for him? 486 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 487 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 7: Was that the move for the Patriots? Is that what 488 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 7: Bill should have done? Like I kind of feel like 489 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 7: in hindsight, that's that would have been it. 490 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: Like it's like me on Tuesdays is dark and then to. 491 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 5: But that conversation, though, I was, I was down. 492 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean just you know, connecting it all 493 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 7: and bringing it back. Bill really didn't like Mac and 494 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 7: clearly they didn't like Zappy either, because they cut him 495 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 7: if he didn't believe in him. I mean, your Bill, 496 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 7: and you're seventy one, and you've always kind of said 497 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 7: I like Aaron Rodgers, and I mean, this is well, 498 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 7: I think the quarterback maybe handle it. 499 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 5: The Patriots were a hard no for Aaron. 500 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: I think it came out the opposite here. I thought 501 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: it was the opposite. 502 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 4: Now. 503 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: I thought he didn't want to. I thought he didn't 504 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: want to come here, but he did. He said, you 505 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: said the Patriots were a hard No, yeah. 506 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 5: They were hard. 507 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 7: He for they were. 508 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 3: No Ford misunderstood, I thought, because there was a report 509 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: out of New York that I think was sort of 510 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: Craig Carteron and it was sort of I don't know 511 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: if it was debunked, but it was definitely blown off 512 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: that that the Patriots inquired and Rogers said. 513 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 4: No, yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't. 514 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: Believe the Patriots ever inquired. 515 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I would have gone there 516 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: in Rogers route. Now, if like Lamar Jackson was technically available, 517 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: and it comes out after the fact that they didn't 518 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: want to move on that, that's a little different story. 519 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: But besides the money, how much of the future did 520 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: the Jets have to give up? How many assets? 521 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: It was a second round pick, right right? 522 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: I didn't want to say my second. 523 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: And it was. It could have been a first but 524 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: obviously he didn't meet the playtime requirement. 525 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: I just had doubts that he's just such a quack. 526 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: Like I just I didn't know if it would work 527 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: out even if he was healthy, like just because of 528 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: where his head is at now. And this whole thing 529 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 4: with the coming back from the Achilles was all just 530 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: to prove that he knows better than everybody else and 531 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 4: he's smarter that stuff. Yeah, And I just don't know 532 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: if that was he keeps selling it. 533 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 7: I agree with all that stuff, but I mean, if 534 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: we're really if I mean, if you're realistic, Bill really 535 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: wants to break the record, right, that feels like that 536 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 7: was the. 537 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: Move, that was the perfect move for him. I'm going 538 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 3: to coach two more years I'm gonna get the wins 539 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: I need with him, Yeah, and then I can walk away. 540 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 4: I have no doubt that that had a potential to 541 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: like be electric here with the two of those guys together. 542 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: Does that still muddy the water when it comes to 543 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? Oh, he had to bring in Aaron Rodgers. 544 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 7: Maybe, But I mean if if if getting the record 545 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 7: is what matters, then you know who really cares. I mean, 546 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: I just of everything you could you could say, there's 547 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 7: so many moves that have led us to the three 548 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 7: win season. But if there was one move that you 549 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 7: could maybe go back in time and change, I mean 550 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 7: that might have might have altered things. I don't know 551 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 7: how much. I mean, I still think they have flaws, 552 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 7: and I still don't you know, know if they have 553 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 7: the true kind of weapon that you need to kind 554 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 7: of compete in the you know, we see the best teams. 555 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 7: They just they have that right now. But I mean, 556 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: he's he's the best option. And I mean Bill always 557 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 7: has kind of a liking to players like him or 558 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 7: really good in a hall OFFI I don't. 559 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: Know if the Patriots would have been interested. My guess 560 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: is no, I don't know that, but I definitely don't 561 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: think Rogers would. I do believe that part of it, 562 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: because if you just look at all the things the 563 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: Jets did to cater to him, sure, just don't see 564 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: those things that have happened here. 565 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it is a fair point though, 566 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: as we move forward, of we're also focused on quarterbacks 567 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 4: in the draft and going that route and the free 568 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: agency classes, it's all a bunch of question marks. You know, 569 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins coming off in Achilles and stuff, like. 570 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: His wife is holding out hope that he can play 571 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, and. 572 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: You know, like Baker Mayfield and like players like that. 573 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: But it does make you wonder about the if Russell 574 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: Wilson trade and Aaron Rodgers trade, like if one of 575 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: these veteran quarterbacks, you know, I've I like Kyler, I don't. 576 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: Some people don't. I take you know absolutely that that 577 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: path is intriguing if you're not giving up a ton 578 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: of draft capital and you're you're solving the quarterback position 579 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: that way, and then the first round pick goes to 580 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 4: a left tackle or goes to Marvin Harrison Junior or whatever. 581 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: But obviously that that assumes that you're not trading the 582 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: second overall pick for the quarterback, which I don't I 583 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: think should be off the table totally. 584 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, eight five five paths five hundred is the 585 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: ace ticket hotline? Anything else before we turn it over 586 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: to the listeners? 587 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, I think we're I think we should go 588 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: to Tennessee first, Freddy, Yeah, Tennessee. 589 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: Yes, Roberts and Tennessee. What's up, Robert? Is it as 590 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: good as Alex says? How the taxes? 591 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 11: It's it's lovely here, absolutely lovely. You're really missing out, listen. 592 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 11: I'm a huge fan of the show, so what's going 593 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 11: to happen in the next few minutes is not going 594 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 11: to be great. Uh, but just know I listened to 595 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 11: y'all every single episode I've been doing forever. I'm an 596 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 11: idiot down here walking through the hallways as a teacher, 597 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 11: But your stuff on. Basically, I'm a huge, patrious fan. 598 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 11: I know every I know the practice squad, I know 599 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 11: the freaking every penny of they spin. I know everything 600 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 11: about him. So with that being said, the balls on 601 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 11: you actually gun for Bill Belichick is just outrageous to me. 602 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 11: I understand where you're kind of coming from, but it's 603 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 11: it has zero loyalty to it whatsoever. You have covered 604 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 11: more Super Bowls because of him. I know there's other factors. 605 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 11: Don't tell me about Brady, but he's a huge factor 606 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 11: in it. You're traveling around on the best planes, you're 607 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 11: now one of the best organizations in the world, and 608 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 11: you just want to throw Bill Belichick out. I get it. 609 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 12: Oh, oh, he hadn't done a great child in the track. 610 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 11: He's not like San Francisco. If we did with Trey 611 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 11: Lance at San Francisco, y'all would be just destroying him. 612 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 11: But he messed up on Nick bil Harry like this 613 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 11: basically a second round pick, and now he's the biggest 614 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 11: idiot in the world. I understand that is payback time 615 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 11: in a lot of ways, Like, hey, he's kind of 616 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 11: mean to us. He doesn't give us any information, he's 617 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 11: not nice, he probably hates y'all. You stab him in 618 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 11: the back constantly. Why would he give you any information. 619 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 11: He's not gonna give you the game plan every single week. 620 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 11: You basically want that, Like, how come we don't talk 621 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 11: to us more? How can we just run out to 622 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 11: the podium. 623 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: Who says that the quarterback headed back? 624 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: Who says that? 625 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 11: How can he doesn't come out instantly. 626 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: I tell you, people on this show say that this. 627 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 11: Podcast just furious. My wife walks by. He says, Hey, 628 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 11: why what are they doing? Why they talking about Bill Beilichick. 629 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 11: I said, because there's so much smarter than Bill's. They're 630 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 11: like genius. They brought some podcast. Matter of fact, here's 631 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 11: another thing. You have like five people on this like 632 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 11: podcast around this video. How many other teams have that 633 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 11: You have that because it's been a success. But as 634 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 11: soon as he starts to struggle, all of a sudden, 635 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 11: been just to this year has been four years in 636 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 11: the making. So what give him a few more years? 637 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 11: This next year up? 638 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: Oh, then you'll then you'll be willing to stab him 639 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 3: in the back. Okay, I got it. When you decided 640 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: it's time to stab him in the back, then it's okay, 641 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: got you. I'm loyal, Oh until next until next year, 642 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: until next year. You'll be loyal until next year. Then 643 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: you'll throw him out with the trash. 644 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 11: Because pretty much you can. You've here's your phrase. You Hey, 645 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 11: your opinion is valid. It's wrong, but it's valid. 646 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: Or you that's not my phrase. Everybody has. Everybody's entitled 647 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: to their opinion. That's I've never told you you're you're wrong. 648 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything you just said was wrong with 649 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: the exception of our podcast that started before Bill Belichick 650 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: was here, and you're giving him credit for a podcast 651 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: that Fred started. So that's wrong. Everything else's opinion doesn't 652 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: if we had four people on the podcast at the time, 653 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Fred Kersh, Brian Moury, Paul Perillo, and Shane Donaldson Robert 654 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: for Bill Belichick. 655 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: This is Robert. I understand everything you're saying, but a 656 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that you're saying has nothing to 657 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: do with Bill Belichick. 658 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 13: Right. 659 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: I don't care that he doesn't talk to the media. 660 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: I don't care that he's mean to people. I don't 661 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: care about anything but winning games. 662 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 11: You're not gonna give him any the success for this. 663 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: I give him plenty of success. I think he's the 664 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: best coach I've ever seen. You like you're arguing with 665 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: like yourself. Yeah, I think he's the best coach I've 666 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: ever seen. We'll get rid of him because he hasn't 667 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: won in. 668 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Four years, because it's time. 669 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: It's time. He's seventy two. 670 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 11: Hey, he went to the playoffs one of those years. 671 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he didn't win. 672 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: That's smoked. 673 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: They lost by thirty points. 674 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 11: Oh, I forgot. You gotta win, every coach. 675 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: No, you have to win something. 676 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Robert, Robert, we have a vested interest in the team. 677 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: There's something like twelve games under five hundred since in 678 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: that four game span, that four year span. 679 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Robert, we have a vested interest in the team. Our 680 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: lives are much better when the team wins. Absolutely, if 681 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: it was if it was best to keep him, because 682 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of a year and we'll get 683 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: right back. Why would we want to get rid of them? 684 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 11: You don't think you could do it. 685 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's it goes way beyond, you know, 686 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: just his coaching at this point. It's it's you know, 687 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: it's relating to the younger players. It's the draft, yes, 688 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot of other things. And I 689 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: just think it's run its course. I think all good 690 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: things must come to an end. And even you said, 691 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: if it didn't happen next year, you'd be ready to 692 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: move on. So everybody's got their limit, everybody's got their time. 693 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Yours is just one year later than mine. 694 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: And you're not alone, Robert. There are a lot of 695 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: people that call us that's that say stuff very similar 696 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: to what you just said. I and I do not 697 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: tell them they're wrong. To the contrary, anyone everybody has 698 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: their own opinion. 699 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: Anyone who says we should keep Bill Belichick. I respect 700 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: that absolutely. I respect that. 701 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 11: You know, it's it's like a small percentage of it. It's 702 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 11: just like, yes, eight guys. 703 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: No, it is. 704 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 3: I think it's bigger than you think. It's probably like 705 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: maybe seventy third. I think you just, you know, something 706 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: like that. 707 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: You're just hearing for the people that have been waiting. 708 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: Because the negativity is louder. There's no doubt about it. 709 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: But I think there's plenty of people that want to 710 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: keep them, plenty plenty. 711 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 11: It does. It ruins my day every time they lose, 712 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 11: and I just. 713 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: It's had a lot of bad days in four years. 714 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 11: It's been bad. It's bad. 715 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 3: But look thirty seven of them. 716 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 11: I just have I have some loyal to do it. 717 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 11: I'm just very grateful for where we've been. I wasn't 718 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 11: really itching to get rid of Tom Brady. I'm just 719 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 11: maybe I'm just too loyal. 720 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, listen, nobody nobody likes Tom Brady more than 721 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I do, but even that's an admirable I realized that 722 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to go. They weren't bought in with him 723 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: long term, and it was it was best for both 724 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: parties to move on now. Ultimately, sure, you know, it's 725 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: proven that he could have had a few more years 726 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: here at a high level, But were they going to 727 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: do what was needed to be done to make those 728 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: fruitful years? 729 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: Don't think so, Robert. Nothing wrong with being too loyal either. 730 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 3: That's an admirable trait. I'm not. I'm not being patronizing 731 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: at all. I disagree with you, but there's nothing wrong 732 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: with being too loyal. I appreciate that, Paul, Seriously. 733 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 11: Anybody, if anybody look, I listened y'all constantly, so like 734 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 11: this is like I want to be in the round 735 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 11: table argue with these things. But I'm at the house, 736 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 11: just listening to a podcast, and I would fight for y'all. 737 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 11: If someone sits fire Fred, he's too old, mistake. 738 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Believe me, that's coming. That's coming. 739 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: Fred and I are waiting for that day. 740 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 11: He started the first ever podcast. 741 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: But so what if I'm losing my fastball, I'm losing 742 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: my fastball, or if I ever had. 743 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 11: When it comes. 744 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you're still painting the corner still, Fred, you 745 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: can get by Frank Tana. 746 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: That was the nicest thing, Robert, thank you for calling. 747 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 748 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: It was really nice. 749 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: It's a good call. 750 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: It's a good call. Love, I love me. 751 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 7: Some friend's we got from the Great State of Tennis. Yeah, 752 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 7: we got d a call because someone call on and 753 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 7: I think it was a pregame show with someone who 754 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 7: you know, just very firmly and we just, you know, 755 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 7: let write it with Bill. 756 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: And Brian Maury who used to be on this show 757 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: is the original member of the podcast. He can't can't 758 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: fathom the fact that we're that we don't have a decision. 759 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: We can't He can't fathom that anyone is considering moving 760 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: on from Bill Belichick. 761 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 8: I mean, I said it last week that I worry 762 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 8: that we look back and regret this where everyone is 763 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 8: writing him out of town and we allowed whether it's 764 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 8: a minority or a majority that wants him gone, they're 765 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 8: the loudest. 766 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: Always a possibility. 767 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 1: But really doesn't that say what it's less moving on 768 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: from him, then what are you going to do next? 769 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: It really also tells you that whatever your move was 770 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: after that didn't work right, you know, both can happen. 771 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: You can move on and have success, and the Patriots 772 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: could have success. 773 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 8: And like you said with Brady, where it was kind 774 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 8: of a mutually, maybe it was more beneficial for Tom, 775 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 8: but it was kind of mutually. 776 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 5: Just like what you do, that could be the case here. 777 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I was hoping for Brady, is 778 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: that he would do well and the Patriots would do well. 779 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, it just didn't work out that way. But 780 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: you know this, listen, I get what Robert's saying. 781 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: I just the only parts that I because I can't 782 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: let things go, you know me. Uh, you know one, 783 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: no one on this panel has ever complained about Bill's 784 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: answers at press conferences. Not once. 785 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: I make fun of them. So there's a difference in 786 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: making fun of it and saying he needs to get 787 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 3: fired because of it. 788 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: Some people, like he said on the call, that this 789 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 4: has come up it's for built because of how he's 790 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 4: treated the media. And now we're we we see blood 791 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: in the water and now we're circling. And I can't 792 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 4: speak for other people. I can only speak for myself. 793 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 4: And you know what I hear from you guys, and 794 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: no one on this show ever sits here and says 795 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: that like is doing this out of spite because of 796 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 4: how he handled himself with the media. And I'd also 797 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 4: just say, you know, there's a loyalty is great, but 798 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: there's also such thing as blind loyalty, and like it's 799 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: our job to look at it objectively and not just 800 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: be blindly loyal to somebody. 801 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: And the other thing that he said that you know, 802 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: you know this, we wouldn't have this podcast. We wouldn't 803 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: have so many people if it was up to Bill. 804 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: We know, we wouldn't. We wouldn't exist. 805 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying to the contract. 806 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: I give the Crafts credit for this. I mean, they're 807 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: the ones that write the checks and give the green 808 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: light to the ideas that we have over the years. 809 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: You know, Bill, we're an unnecessary evil in his eyes. 810 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: A big part of this, get it, A big part 811 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 3: of this to me is just and it's very similar 812 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 3: to Brady. I there's a finite amount of time left, 813 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 3: Like you cannot do these things forever. Tom Brady defied 814 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: logic and defied time for a lot of years, but 815 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: at some point it was going to end. Even for 816 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 3: him and at forty five, you know, they let him 817 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 3: go when he was what forty two? Yeah, he won 818 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: another super Bowl, and there was a period of time 819 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: there where that was probably looked at as embarrassing for 820 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: the Patriots. I never looked at it that way. I 821 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: kind of looked at it like, Fred, did you know 822 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: we let him go. He didn't want to be here. 823 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: We probably didn't want him him anymore. But I didn't 824 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 3: wish any ill will on him. I wanted him to succeed. 825 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: He did whatever. I knew he wasn't gonna be quarterbacking 826 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: for much longer, just like I know that no matter 827 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 3: what happens with Bill, he ain't coaching for another ten years. 828 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's kind of well, And that's kind of why, like, 829 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: especially if the Patriots bring on a new top quarterback, 830 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the draft, I kind of want the 831 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: coach to be guaranted. 832 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: You know, I know there's no guarantees in. 833 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: Life, but hopefully the coach will be here a long 834 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: time with that quarterback and you have that continuity, which 835 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: I think was such a big part of the dynasty, 836 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: having that continuity. 837 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: He'll draft Caleb Williams and Bill Belichick's coach. Let's just 838 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 3: say for frogments sake, he's a great coach for Caleb 839 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 3: Williams for two years. Then you need to find another 840 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: coach and do you stunt Caleb Williams's development at that point? 841 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: Much like we talked about with Mac Jones with when 842 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: when McDaniels left, Like, there's a lot of things that 843 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: make it tricky. 844 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 7: But if it was still the Patriots, like of twenty 845 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 7: I don't even I don't know if the zacher to 846 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 7: say twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, but like are 847 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 7: just like they don't have the talent, but they're just 848 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 7: they're really tough to play against. They're well coached, they 849 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 7: always come out and man, they're tough to put away. 850 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 3: You know, those kind of things. 851 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 7: Like if you were seeing that, I would have a 852 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 7: little bit of more of that. It's just hard because 853 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 7: they're We've been watching this and I feel like for 854 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 7: me to sit here and say, I don't know, it's 855 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 7: fine would just be disingenuous because I've watched all the 856 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 7: training camp practices, all the games, everything, you know, maybe 857 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 7: not twice, like I do. 858 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: Think people some people that listen to us, that's what 859 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 3: they're expecting because I'm listening to Patriots Dockham because I 860 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: don't want the ninety eight five, the Sports Hub and 861 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 3: the WEEI sort of you know, snickering and negativity. I 862 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: want to listen to the team because I know they 863 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: but we can't do that. And the reason that we 864 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: can't do that, Fred will tell you is because Robert 865 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: and Jonathan Kraft demand that you don't do that mandate. 866 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: It is a mandate. Well, and before I ever went 867 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: on a show, he told Fred to talk to us 868 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: about when you go on these shows. It's great for 869 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: the brand, it's great for us to get the publicity, 870 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 3: and it's great for you. But if you don't tell 871 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 3: them what you see and what you feel, they're never 872 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: going to have your back. You lose all your credibility. Yeah. 873 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world, 874 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: says not sure if you'll know this, Fred, But does 875 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: lose a losing Patriots team impact the profitability of the team? 876 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Does this play into the craft mindset on Bill? Do 877 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: you make more money as a franchise if you're in 878 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs regularly? Do the radio deals pay better when 879 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: you're winning, et cetera. When renegotiations happen with sponsors, does 880 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: recent performance factor. 881 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: Into the bids? 882 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, It's like the stock market. You know, 883 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: a sponsor invests in you hoping you do well so 884 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: that more people are watching, more people are listening, and 885 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: it's better for your brand. You want to be associated 886 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: with a winner, you know. So yeah, you know it 887 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: check goes down to anything. So in that way, you 888 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: give Bill Belichick a lot of credit because he was 889 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: coaching a team that made the you know, the franchise 890 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: that much more profitable. But these last four years, you 891 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: look in the secondary market, you can buy a ticket 892 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: for forty dollars. That ain't good. Yeah, that's not good. 893 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 7: I mean and how many you know Mac Jones jerseys 894 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 7: are they selling now? And you know they got bumped 895 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 7: off of Monday Night Football. 896 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Like these are. 897 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 7: You know, it works both ways. I mean these are 898 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 7: guys too. I mean, this is like the pinnacle of 899 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 7: competition right now. These owners are all billionaires and they're 900 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 7: all competitive, and you know, even things that probably don't 901 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 7: even cross our radar are seen to them as like, well, 902 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 7: we're not doing quite as you know, we could be 903 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 7: better at this like they I feel like are as 904 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 7: competitive as everybody. I mean, you just see how much 905 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 7: they all pour into it. 906 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And you know, as an NFL owner, you 907 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: have to be really stupid to lose money, you know, 908 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: even if you're not selling out your stadium, you know, 909 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: because you know a certain percentage of your revenue comes 910 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: from ticket sales, but most of it is TV revenue, 911 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: you know, the broadcast arrangement. So you roll out of 912 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: bed being profitable. However, you know, everything's pooled. And those 913 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: owners that don't pull their weight when it comes to 914 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: tickets and other you know, revenue besides the TV, they're 915 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: looked down upon. They don't have as much clout when 916 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: they get in the room. They're not contributing as much 917 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: to the common pool, so they don't get listened to 918 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: as much. The owners that do, you know, that are 919 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: getting the top level for tickets in their market, that 920 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: are bringing in the extra revenue that gets shared, you know, 921 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: among all the teams that their jersey's just selling them more, 922 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: they have more clout because they're making everybody richer. 923 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, I just wonder all of this, 924 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 4: whether it's bill next year, it's a different regime. At 925 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 4: what point, you know, does the losing cause them to 926 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 4: change the way that they do things on multiple levels? 927 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think it's just really about some 928 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: of the nitty green stuff that we talk about on 929 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 4: the show, you know, the draft and all that kind 930 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: of stuff. I think that there needs to be a 931 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 4: different approach in general to how they build the roster. 932 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 4: Because I'm not one of those people that say that 933 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 4: Brady made it all, you know, all the warts look, 934 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 4: you know, go away or whatever, like they had great 935 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 4: rosters for many years here with the Patriots. But I 936 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 4: think that the landscape of how you build a team 937 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 4: in the modern NFL, because the money coming in is 938 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: so ridiculous from the TV deals and the cap is 939 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: just exorbitant. 940 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: You know. 941 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 4: Macro said to us last summer, like there isn't really 942 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 4: there really isn't a salary cap, Like the salary cap 943 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: is like a guideline. Well yeah, and so basically he 944 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 4: said that you could do whatever you want and that 945 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 4: the cap is not going to it's so high and 946 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: there's so much money to spend that the cap is 947 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 4: really not going to inhibit you from doing anything. And 948 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: I think a lot of teams have started to really 949 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: take that approach, and they are the better teams than 950 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: the league right now. You know that the Niners are 951 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: the best team in the league, and they trade for 952 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 4: Chase Young at the trade deadline, and you're thinking to yourself, like, 953 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: how can they do this? Like how can they get 954 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: because the cap is manipulated? 955 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, I just one thing too to say 956 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 7: to that last call too, is I get it. I mean, 957 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 7: Bill Belichick leaving this place will be seismic whenever it happens. 958 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 7: And you know, as somebody who remembers the Patriots, before 959 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 7: Bill Parcells got here, nobody cared. You know, there was 960 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 7: nothing really to make you care about that football team. Now, 961 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 7: not to say that there aren't players now that you 962 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 7: know people don't care about, but you know, Bill is 963 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 7: the last big piece of that dynasty. When the Patriots play, 964 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 7: it's Bill Belichick. When they've got to put graphics up 965 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 7: right now, it's Bill Belichick. That's you know, it was 966 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 7: Brady and Belichick. Brady left and we saw how hard 967 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 7: that was. And now when Bill leaves, that part of 968 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 7: the identity has gone too. And you're you're kind of 969 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 7: I don't want to say nothing, but like, you're gonna 970 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 7: have to re establish who this franchise is after him. 971 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 7: What you know, who's going to be the marquee players. 972 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 7: All of that is just kind of thrown to the wind, 973 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 7: and it's it's distressing, it's it's comforting. There's still a 974 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 7: part of me that's just like, God, it would just 975 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 7: be some which easier to just have Bill back, and 976 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 7: we know what the deal is and we know how 977 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 7: he does things, and you know, it's hard to make 978 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 7: these these big decisions to blow it up. And as 979 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 7: we talk about, there's a GMS, there's coaches, there's a quarterback, 980 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 7: there's free agency, there's all kinds. 981 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so. 982 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 7: Much on the plate for what's going to happen this offseason. 983 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: I think sometimes, you know, my best argument now, I 984 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 4: think for keeping Bill is just there are times at 985 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 4: press conferences when he does open up about football stuff 986 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 4: where you're just like, holy crap, this guy knows more 987 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 4: about football than anybody on planet Earth. Like there's not 988 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 4: a single person walking planet Earth right now, probably dead 989 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: or alive, honestly, that knows more about football than Bill Belichick. 990 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 4: And so no matter what, whether you agree with his 991 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 4: philosophies in the modern NFL or not. The next guy 992 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 4: is going to know less about football than the current 993 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: guy that has the job. 994 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 3: And that's it. I don't think there's much doubt about that. Yeah, 995 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: I liked Alex's point too, but like we might look 996 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: back with regret. I mean, I think there's a risk 997 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: in that. You know, Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson couldn't 998 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 3: get along, right, they built this unbelievable juggernaut and they 999 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 3: couldn't figure out a way to coexist, and they ended 1000 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 3: up moving on from the coach. Obviously, they've been chasing 1001 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: their tail ever since that was in the early nineties, 1002 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 3: the mid nineties. Yeah, so there's there is definitely risk 1003 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 3: to it. 1004 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 8: But and if people are unhappy with kind of the 1005 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 8: state of things, now, okay, that's just a quarterback Like, yeah, 1006 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 8: we're rebuilding, but that's just like a quarterback development thing. 1007 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 8: Now we're also bringing in a new head coach, We're 1008 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 8: developing another quarterback. Assuming we don't go out and get 1009 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 8: a big one free agency. And then also the GM debacle, Like, yeah, 1010 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 8: what order does any of this stuff even? 1011 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: Fall? Season ends January seventh for the Patriots, The off 1012 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: season starts immediately. It starts on January eighth. Basically, in 1013 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: my eyes, they've got three weeks to get their jump 1014 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: stacks together so that they're ready to go for all. 1015 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: These I would like to hope that this is already 1016 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 4: going on. 1017 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 3: I know, but I'm talking about the people in places 1018 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 3: what happens. 1019 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 1: But you know, we got the Senior Bowl, the Shrine Bowl, 1020 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: the combines, the player visits and all that stuff has 1021 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: to start happening, like immediately, who's going, who's doing what? 1022 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 3: There's no time. GM is really under you've been talking 1023 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: about this off air. I think it's a really underreported I. 1024 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: Was talking to these guys like something that just occurred 1025 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: to me on the drive in today because you know, 1026 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: I have a long drive and I get to think 1027 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: now that he listens to you know, they were talking about, 1028 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, Mayo obviously as a leading candidate for the 1029 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: head coach. Why not Mayo as the GM. I mean, 1030 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: he's everybody says that he's got these leadership qualities, right, 1031 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: his coaching qualities we haven't really seen, Like he doesn't 1032 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: even have a really a title. You know, he's been 1033 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: a linebackers coach. I guess but like the main his 1034 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: superpower supposedly is his communication skills and his leadership. Right, 1035 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: he knows this organization because he grew up here. 1036 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 4: Can you evaluate talent? 1037 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: Well, no, but he can have people that do it 1038 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: for him. 1039 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 3: Well, he might be able to, don't. 1040 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1041 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that as like he oversees. 1042 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: It and by doing that you get the collaborative process 1043 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: that you want. But you make sure as GM that 1044 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: you have smart people doing that stuff for you. You know, 1045 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: there's more to being a GM than just drafting guys 1046 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: and deciding who you're going to sign for Well, I 1047 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: think it's the whole operations of football that you have 1048 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: to consider. 1049 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 4: I think that's why a lot of teams have like 1050 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 4: a John Elway John Lynch type that is overseeing all 1051 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: of football operations from the bird's eye view and they 1052 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 4: have their their you know self proclaim their nerd to 1053 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 4: then go out and like scout guys right like that. 1054 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: You know, I think that that's how a lot of 1055 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 4: teams now do it. And uh, you know, some of 1056 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 4: the candidates that we're going to talk about are are 1057 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: the nerds? Are the guys that are under John Lynch? 1058 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 4: In San Francisco with Adam Peters or Mike Borgazzi, who 1059 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 4: I think grew up in every call. 1060 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: Uncle. 1061 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 4: He's from Kansas City, you know, under Brett Veach with 1062 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, you know, like that these are guys that 1063 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 4: if it does happen, like these are the candidates that 1064 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 4: we're going to be talking about. 1065 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I don't know. I don't think it's a 1066 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: crazy idea that whatever the title is, general manager or 1067 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: president of operations or whatever, and Geron Mayo might be 1068 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: a good fit for that, you know. 1069 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1070 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 7: Personally, I think it's kind of the best a long shot. 1071 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 7: Can I just I'm sorry to bring it back. This 1072 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 7: is just one thing I'm wondering about with Alex's regret thing, 1073 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 7: Like do you think you're only going to regret it 1074 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 7: if Bill goes to another team and has success? Or 1075 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 7: do you think I mean, I just don't want to think, like, like, 1076 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 7: guess what another three win season, win season is on 1077 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 7: the table if there's a new head coach next year, 1078 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 7: and that's not necessarily going to make me regret firing 1079 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, you know. So, I just I don't know 1080 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 7: where the regret comes from. 1081 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 3: My regret is only in that I wis you know, 1082 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: if you want me to be like the Hollywood ending, 1083 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 3: is that I wish that he could have said I've 1084 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 3: had a great run, I'm done, and Robert said, yes, 1085 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 3: you've had a great run, and we're sorry that you're done. 1086 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 3: But here we go, you know what I mean, that's 1087 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 3: the only regret. 1088 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: They go to the Soup Bowl, he breaks through his 1089 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: record and he goes out. You know, no, that's a 1090 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood ending for him, not for us, for us too. 1091 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: Oh if he did it here? 1092 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,959 Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well yeah. 1093 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, is that if we were in 1094 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: this situation, like I agree with Mike, I understand that 1095 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to do and it's probably 1096 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 3: not going to all get fixed next year. So I'm fully, uh, 1097 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 3: you know, understanding the possibility of another losing record next season. 1098 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 3: That won't fill me with regret. What I regret is 1099 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: that they couldn't sort of amically amicably end it and 1100 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 3: move on. 1101 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 4: I just wonder. I think the bigger thing for me 1102 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 4: is just it looks like there's a ton to be fixed. 1103 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 4: But if they draft Caleb Williams and he's just Patrick 1104 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 4: Mahomes like does it is it all going to be 1105 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 4: fixed like that? 1106 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 3: Like I really know, I really it won't be. I mean, 1107 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 3: see Patrick could be a playoffs. I don't think you'd be. 1108 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 1: A it was so spoiled. Like Brady's first season as 1109 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: a starter, they won a super Bowl that's very rare, 1110 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: but even more like it's more like Peyton Manning where 1111 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: he has his struggles the Friebe year. 1112 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 4: I mean, in Max's first year they won ten games 1113 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 4: and made the playoffs. And that was with mac Jones. 1114 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 3: But imagine if the guy. 1115 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: Right. But that was kind of an illusion, wasn't it. 1116 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 4: But my point being is that there's a very real possibility, 1117 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 4: with seventy five million dollars in cap space, the third 1118 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 4: pick or the second pick in every single round of 1119 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 4: the draft, and you if you if you first pick 1120 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 4: on the table, if you get the right picks and 1121 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: you make the right picks in the draft, and you 1122 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 4: get you know a little jump from free agency like 1123 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 4: you did in twenty twenty one, I don't see why 1124 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 4: this team can't be wins. 1125 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: Was a chance, but to me, it's unlikely it's going 1126 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: to be, you know, supposedly a new head coach, maybe 1127 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: new assistants. There's going to be a learning curve for everybody, 1128 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get back. 1129 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 4: New assistants might be assistant by addition, by subtraction. 1130 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: But I just think there's going to be said assistance. 1131 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: I just think. I just think if you, even if 1132 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: you draft the next Hall of Fame quarterback, a first 1133 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: season like Peyton Manning is more likely than a first 1134 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: playing season with Tom Brady. 1135 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree, it's it's hard to do it, but 1136 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean C J. Stroud has got you in contention 1137 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 3: right now. Now. I would also say that Houston is 1138 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 3: like four years into this rebuild, you know, so I 1139 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 3: don't think they're a great team. I think the quarterback 1140 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 3: is responsible for the I. 1141 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: Mean, we should be four years into the rebuild, but 1142 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 1: our rebuild has fallen apart. 1143 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 3: It's kind of started over because I think we went 1144 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 3: for the quick fix. 1145 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the wheels came off our rebuild, let's face it, right, Yeah, it's. 1146 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 8: A hard city to do a rebuilding, and that's play 1147 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 8: at that plays into it. 1148 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 7: And that's the whole point of my thing of again 1149 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 7: to your point, Fred, like, yeah, I mean, I just 1150 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 7: I think the range of what could happen next year 1151 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 7: is from one win to ten wins, you know, like that, 1152 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 7: it's anything's really possible. No idea what this team is 1153 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 7: going to look like. 1154 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'll be ready for another losing season 1155 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: as long as you see the hope, you see the 1156 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: quarter this this guy can play. You know, they've got 1157 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: money to spend. They're doing it right, They're they're you know, 1158 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: they're buttoning up their operations. I'm okay with waiting, you know, 1159 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: as long as I see the trajectory's going in the 1160 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: right direction. 1161 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 4: I just know that if he, if Bill still wants 1162 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 4: to be the coach here next year, he's they always 1163 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 4: have that end of year meeting with with mister Kraft 1164 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 4: where he says, stay to the union with Bill. Bill's 1165 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 4: gonna have some sort of pitch or plan that he 1166 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: probably already pretty much knows. And you know, we've talked 1167 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 4: about this before, and I he's gonna throw the quarterbacks 1168 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 4: under the bus, like he's gonna say that if we 1169 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: had a court, we had Paul what was it, seven 1170 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 4: one score losses, We had our best defensive player on 1171 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 4: injured reserve for the majority of the season, and we 1172 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 4: have quarterbacks that can't play. So if you if we 1173 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 4: get the quarterback fixed and we get Jude On back 1174 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 4: and we get Christian Gonzales back. 1175 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: We spend some money, you know, ten wins here we 1176 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: are you can make that. You can make the case too, 1177 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: you can you can make the case. And that's what 1178 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: and then Robert are better or worse, and then Robert 1179 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: has Bill Belichick back. 1180 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd need to see what the schedule looks like 1181 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 3: in the state of the other teams before I would 1182 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 3: say that. But well, yeah, yeah, all right, good GM thing. 1183 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 3: And I know we you know, I know Fred's foods here. 1184 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 3: But the GM thing I want to get to after 1185 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 3: the break because I'm curious how many guys you think 1186 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: the way you describe the GM is sort of the 1187 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 3: overseer of everything, Like how many teams are known for 1188 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 3: their GM, Like how many teams? Like it's clear the 1189 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: GM is the guy now that runs it now, Like 1190 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: to me, even teams that don't have the head coach 1191 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: is the GM. The head coach is still kind of 1192 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 3: the CEO of the organization and they kind of have 1193 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 3: final say on the roster and all that stuff. I 1194 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 3: just wonder how many teams have that, and I think 1195 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: John Lynch, as you mentioned, is kind of that overlord 1196 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 3: that that's a good exactly what how many. 1197 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 7: Teams are like? 1198 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 4: The one that I can that comes to mind immediately 1199 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 4: is how he. 1200 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 7: I was going to say, but it's like retroactive. 1201 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 3: You know. 1202 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 7: It's like once they put a good time together, it 1203 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 7: comes second. It's never like, oh, this guy's a great. 1204 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: You're gonna get how he was gonna get. He's gonna 1205 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 3: build us from the you know, the studs on up. 1206 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 4: I just I don't think Nick Sirian has got anything 1207 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 4: to do with this success. 1208 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't. I don't disagree, but I agree 1209 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 3: with Mike's point was like kind of after the fact. 1210 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: It's like. 1211 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 3: He does. 1212 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: In the past, it was, you know, Bill Pollian Poland 1213 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: would be one of them, and Butler from the Bills. 1214 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: You know, he got credit for building that team. And 1215 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe in the past maybe GM's 1216 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: got more credit than they do now because they're just 1217 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: not out front. 1218 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 3: But Poleon built those Bills teams too, right. 1219 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: Well, but no, but Butler, Butler, the Butler, look him up, 1220 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: the Butler, the GM butler. 1221 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 3: Jerry Wide receiver on a Clemson Good play them, Butler, you. 1222 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: Know, but every team needs somebody running all aspects of it. 1223 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: And to do what Bill did is really hard, you know. 1224 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: But so all right, well, Paul's getty, We'll be right back. 1225 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 5: Get in on the action. 1226 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 6: With DraftKings, the official daily fantasy partner of the New 1227 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 6: England Patriots. 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You know, Sean A ton of respect for him, 1250 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 15: what he's done through his career, and it's the way 1251 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 15: he coaches, the way prepares, and it's the football coach 1252 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 15: that he is. You know, I think I think Sean 1253 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 15: does a great job. But it's a well balanced team, 1254 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 15: very explicive in the kicking game, you knows is having 1255 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 15: a great year both punt and kickoff returns. H really, 1256 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 15: you know, create a lot of field position there. And 1257 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 15: you know, offensively cut you know, good receivers, good running back, 1258 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 15: really good quarterback. You know Wilson's uh, you know, definitely 1259 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 15: a problem running throwing extended plays similar to what we 1260 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 15: talked about last week with Mahomes, but. 1261 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 3: You know, runs more. 1262 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 15: I mean it runs more than most any quarterback in 1263 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 15: the league maybe other than Jackson. And then defensively, you know, 1264 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 15: they've really, you know, kind of hit their stride here 1265 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 15: the last few weeks, turned the ball over a lot, 1266 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 15: pretty pretty well balanced team, you know, Allen Josie Singleton, 1267 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 15: really productive at linebacker. Obviously, Simmons and certain you know, 1268 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 15: two of the better DB's in the league. So you know, 1269 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 15: they've really could see their improvement over the course of 1270 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 15: the year. And turners have been a big thing. They've 1271 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 15: done a good job of turning the ball over and 1272 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 15: playing good third now defense, and they've been really good 1273 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 15: in a return game. So I think that's kind of 1274 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 15: those things really kind of sparked their you know, last 1275 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 15: seven or eight games whatever it's been, you know where 1276 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 15: they won most of them. So different different group to 1277 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 15: get ready for than you know we saw back in 1278 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 15: twenty Obviously a lot of a lot of change, but 1279 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 15: you know, they're they've done a good job. Shawn's done 1280 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 15: a good job there. 1281 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 16: Mentioned means in the return game, how do you feel 1282 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 16: like your coverage units have been performing? 1283 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 7: I guess deceased. 1284 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 15: Uh no, bad, Yeah, I bet, I mean our our 1285 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 15: net punt is you know better than what it's been. 1286 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 15: Some of that's come with some return yards, but the 1287 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 15: walls are punted further. And kickoff you know, didn't have 1288 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 15: a good one there against Indianapolis, But I mean we 1289 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 15: haven't we haven't covered a lot of kickoffs be returned, 1290 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 15: a lot of kickoffs. 1291 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 3: What is even work done over the course of his 1292 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: career that's caused you to say I want to. 1293 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 15: Work with Yeah, well, just the depth of that position. 1294 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 15: So you know, when you only have two quarterbacks on 1295 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 15: the roster, guy sprands his ankle. I mean you're down 1296 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 15: to you know, putting the receiver or running back or 1297 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 15: somebody at quarterback. So but you know it's productive preseason yeah, Canada. 1298 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 7: So talking to can a court yesterday, coming up like 1299 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 7: Chad and said he practice, you know, he seems to 1300 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 7: be making a lot of these shorter kings And when 1301 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 7: I heard him. 1302 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 6: Say that, it made me think that maybe a little 1303 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 6: bit of a surprise that it isn't. 1304 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 17: Carry him over to the games' carrious to complete. 1305 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 7: Do you see it similarly and what are your thoughts 1306 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 7: on there? Things are with a channel? 1307 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 15: Oh, yeah, yeah, I agree with Camp. 1308 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 17: You mentioned Broncos shown a lot of improvement this year, 1309 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 17: certainly on offense. 1310 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 4: Sean Payton a lot. 1311 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 1: Of success in New Orleans. 1312 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 3: Now he's having some immediate success in Denver. 1313 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 17: What is it about his offense that is so challenging 1314 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 17: for a defensive Portand. 1315 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 15: He does a good job of putting stress on the 1316 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 15: defense whatever the defense is, rules and adjustments and fundamentals are. 1317 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 15: He does a good job attacking him. And that they 1318 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 15: obviously have good players, and they started the same line 1319 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 15: in every game, so they've got a lot of continuity there. 1320 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 15: You know quarterbacks, you know, unique player, he's got a 1321 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 15: lot of skill. Receivers, Sudden, I mean, Sudden's good as 1322 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 15: good as there is, big guy, great hands, contested catches, 1323 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 15: a really hard guy to cover. He's had tremendous production, 1324 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 15: especially down the field. So good players. 1325 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: The injuries happened every year, no supreme, then you've bet 1326 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: this year. Have you ever dealt with the situation of 1327 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: this vie? 1328 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 3: You've had so many injuries with so many important pieces, 1329 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 3: and just I guess you know how frustrating is that? 1330 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 3: Noting it's obviously how do you control a lot of 1331 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: these guys? Control OBErs? 1332 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's almost all contact injuries, you know, 1333 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 15: so those are hard to account for, you know, concussions, knees, ankles, shoulders, 1334 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 15: that's been contact injuries. So I mean you got a 1335 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 15: couple of sicknesses flues here and there. But yeah, uh, 1336 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 15: you know, control the cheating, control, you know, train the 1337 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 15: players the best you can get 'em in good condition. 1338 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 15: But you know when you see contact injuries like Coal's injury, 1339 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 15: like that's be a hard arn to prevent. You take 1340 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 15: it the other day, which. 1341 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 17: What have you seen from your rushing attack the past 1342 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 17: couple of weeks? 1343 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 15: Uh, well we got a probably have some pretty heavy, 1344 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 15: heavy boxes last week from Kansas City, so we got 1345 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 15: to be ready for that again. But yeah, sometimes comes 1346 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 15: down to you know, numbers actually, you know, blocking the 1347 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 15: guys we have to block. But when there are more 1348 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 15: numbers than that than that, certain ways to deal with that. 1349 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 15: But it's you know, it makes a little more challenging. 1350 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 15: So they need more production throwing the ball. Which once 1351 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 15: we have that, then that tends to loosen things up 1352 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,959 Speaker 15: a little bit. So just depind on what we see 1353 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 15: and you know how how how the game unfolds. 1354 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: The valuable is Miles Bryant. The season little changes. If 1355 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: you've had at. 1356 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 15: Cornerback sim valuable every year, returning punts, you know, playing 1357 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 15: the kicking game, playing outside, playing inside. It's the same 1358 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 15: thing last year. Yeah, he's one of our most versatile 1359 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 15: players and and he's able to handle a lot of 1360 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 15: different responsibilities and he's had to and he's done a 1361 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 15: good job. But yeah, Bill, you mentioned Denver's d is 1362 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 15: hitting it stride and then they gave up seventy points. 1363 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 7: In Week three. Now they're in the playoff mix. 1364 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 18: What specifically have you seen that they've been able to 1365 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 18: improve throughout the season. 1366 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 15: Yeah, everything, takeaways have them, big fundamentals, not giving up 1367 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 15: big plays, tackling better, a lot of little things. But 1368 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 15: it's all big things. It's all. It's all defensive football. 1369 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 15: They do a good job of defeend blockers. They have 1370 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 15: a good, good fundamental team and they're they played with 1371 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 15: a lot of effort and they get a lot of 1372 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 15: hustle plays, second effort plays, uh effort sacks, strip fumbles, 1373 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 15: you know, things like that. 1374 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 12: They do. 1375 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 15: When you saw it Bensho was last year in Arizona, 1376 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 15: different team, roster, all that, but you see and carry 1377 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 15: over that scene. 1378 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 3: High pressure, plates, philocity, here in the never week the. 1379 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 15: Week, I would say it's a little different than what 1380 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 15: they did last year in Arizona. 1381 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 17: Yeah, with the season where it is and obviously you 1382 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 17: playoffs still longer consideration, do you find it harder to 1383 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 17: motivate the players and the coaches never want to it. 1384 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 3: You know, it was ready to go every week. 1385 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 7: I'm a chance to coaching one's back this season, I 1386 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 7: don't think so. 1387 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 4: I mentioned the the heavy boxes that you're getting from 1388 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 4: Kansas City with the run game. Is that something that 1389 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 4: you've seen as a common theme at all recently against 1390 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 4: your offense? 1391 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 3: No, No, it's varied. 1392 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 15: It's varied from week to week. There were a couple 1393 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 15: of games that we saw couples you in some days 1394 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 15: it didn't didn't see from Indianapolis, you know, sawwhere Pittsford. 1395 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 15: We'll see they mix it up. Man, they don't do 1396 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 15: the same thing every time. But there's uh, definitely a 1397 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 15: lot of Yeah, we saw a lot of in Kansas City. 1398 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 17: What have you seen progression wise from Vin Harris? 1399 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 10: So good? 1400 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 15: Yeah, solid guys here every day works hard every day, 1401 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 15: scout team, offense, kicking game. He s WORKDRD on his 1402 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 15: pass protection, pass routes just he can carry the ball 1403 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 15: that he's worked on, you know, other parts of his 1404 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 15: game too. So helped me become more well rounded player. 1405 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 15: The solid guy works, you know, gives you a really 1406 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 15: solid effort every day. All right, okay, all right, thank you. 1407 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no, 1408 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 19: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1409 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 19: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1410 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 19: now it's next for residential delivery only. 1411 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 7: And now great moments in. 1412 01:04:59,760 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 3: Its. 1413 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I know he's a friend of the show, but the 1414 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: pre and post game shows have become largely about soothing 1415 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: or feeding Hardy's ego, and he offers little actual information 1416 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: about the team or the game. It's so frustrated. 1417 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 16: Wow, you should bring this that's entirely inaccurate Hardy to 1418 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 16: I don't know if Hardy has I think, if anything 1419 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 16: in this room, I think, if anything, he's got inferior complex. 1420 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I would agree. 1421 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, you know, he's a very busy guy. He's 1422 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: got ninety eight point five and he does serious He's 1423 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: got the music show, you know, so he's got golf, 1424 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 1: the golf show that he does. But he gets free 1425 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: stuff for that, so I'm a little jealous custom p 1426 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: HG clubs he gave you? No, he got those, he 1427 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: got free and. 1428 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 3: I got his leftover. 1429 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: So, oh did you? 1430 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 3: He said he gave me a set of irons? Nice? 1431 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: What kind? 1432 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't look at him. 1433 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: You don't even look at him. 1434 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 3: We just the other night when we were leave when 1435 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 3: he put them in my trunk. 1436 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: So you're not even curious to what they are. 1437 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 3: No, I'll look at him when I get a chance. 1438 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 3: I would want to know what kind of clubs I got? 1439 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 1: You excited? I've been working on new set of irons. 1440 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 7: Just rolling around in the back of his car, right 1441 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 7: there in a bag. 1442 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 3: I'd want to know, Like the Calloways, and they expect 1443 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 3: that from him, not you. 1444 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: I expect you, know, like i'd be excited to get 1445 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: a new set of irons. 1446 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 4: Mike, how's your putting? 1447 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 3: That's another great moment from. 1448 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: All right back here on Patriots on Filtered eight five 1449 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 1: five PATS five hundred is the a'st taken hotline web 1450 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. 1451 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 3: Didn't we have like trivia questions yesterday? 1452 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1453 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 3: Right? 1454 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I gotta do that. 1455 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you send did you send me though? 1456 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I never never, we never read them. Yeah, I 1457 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't read them. I warn't handed them. I wasn't handed them. 1458 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 3: No, I warn't. 1459 01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I can't talk. 1460 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, excellent buffalo chicken sandwich by the way from them. 1461 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 3: It was good good. 1462 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 7: I got short change. Maybe they gave you one of 1463 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 7: my three chicken fingers and they got two. 1464 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 3: I think you haven't got I think maybe one fell out. 1465 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Check you checked the bag. 1466 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 5: The price they went up a little, weren't they three? 1467 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 4: I don't know three for three day when they first launched. 1468 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: All right, well, Mattia, let's get to the phones, Mark's 1469 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: and Everett. 1470 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 12: Hey, Mark, Fred, thank you as always taking my ball. 1471 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 11: Very Christmas to the whole game. 1472 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 12: I mean that sincerely, very Christmas to every one, uh 1473 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 12: two quick things. 1474 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,919 Speaker 11: Being a squished squish the fish guy. 1475 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 1: You know. 1476 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 12: I grew up on ever and watched the football. We 1477 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 12: hated the Dolphins. I think most of us just don't 1478 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 12: want to see Bill beach Shooles record on another team. 1479 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 12: So we're all trying to hang in there just for 1480 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 12: the other seventeen games, so we could at least leave 1481 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 12: when with the Shooler record because we lost the eighteen 1482 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 12: and one season, so we couldn't take that a record 1483 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 12: away from them. So I think that's why we're all 1484 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 12: feeling like maybe we should keep build just for a 1485 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 12: couple more years, just to get that record, whether we 1486 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 12: go six and you know, eleven or. 1487 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 11: You know what I mean, I think that's what we're feeling. 1488 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 12: I'm not feeling that way. 1489 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that way. I can tell you that one. 1490 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 12: So if he was a Dallas cowboy and he beats 1491 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 12: youoles record, that wouldn't bump you. 1492 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: No, it really wouldn't. I can honestly tell you. I'm 1493 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: not kidding. It wouldn't. I'd be happy for him. 1494 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 3: And eighteen one will always bother me. 1495 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question, I think about that's my Roman empire. 1496 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, I get that. 1497 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 7: I mean, how much do you want him to beat 1498 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 7: the Shoola record? Like, what's that going to mean to you? 1499 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 12: Like? 1500 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 7: That's that gonna be like? 1501 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: And is gonna beat it a few years later? I mean, 1502 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't really care, you know, And and everybody says this, 1503 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,679 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure Bill cares about that record that much. 1504 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 4: Six and Belichi. 1505 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard him say a word about. 1506 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm much rather have the Super Bowls right well, 1507 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 7: like champions just. 1508 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Like you know, as as a point of fact, like 1509 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 3: Mark was just sort of like throw it even if 1510 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 3: it's like six and eleven, and that's like your notes. 1511 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 3: If that happens six and then eight, he doesn't he 1512 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 3: needs a third. 1513 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Year right to do it, right? 1514 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, marroll it like you don't know if it's even 1515 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 4: gonna happen here, You don't know who it's going to 1516 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 4: happen again. 1517 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: What is it? 1518 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 7: Like it's a and he just broke the record. Great, 1519 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 7: I'll get back to the game. 1520 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 4: Like I like, I think we'd have a cool I 1521 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 4: think he can't. 1522 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 3: I think she cares about it. 1523 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 7: But like I just think the way that it's built 1524 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 7: up that like all he cares about right now is 1525 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,520 Speaker 7: like winning those I just think that's kind of like ridiculous. 1526 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 7: I mean, you already got the championships. Like that's where 1527 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,560 Speaker 7: it's at for me. 1528 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: But but you know, someday there's going to be another 1529 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: head coach who coaches a long time and you know, 1530 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: gets a great quarterback and piles up a lot. 1531 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 3: Of wins to your and they'll break that record. Right now, right, 1532 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 3: it's the Super. 1533 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Bowls that are the important thing. 1534 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 4: I don't think is going to catch him. 1535 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 3: I don't think so either, because I don't think he's 1536 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 3: interested in coaching much long. Yeah, he was thinking about 1537 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 3: retiring after the winning the Super Bowl last year. 1538 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 5: Yes, but if one of years ago, it seemed out 1539 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 5: of question that any like, if. 1540 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 3: He wanted to coach for five more years, he'd have 1541 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 3: a legit shock. 1542 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if he stays healthy. 1543 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: All right, here's the trivia questions. Ready, Paul, you're not peaking? 1544 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: I know, all right, peak? What year did the NFL? 1545 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 4: Which actually that was that was well done right there? 1546 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 3: That was good. You gotta give you identified the mic 1547 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 3: and Mic is on? Okay, can I can I finish? 1548 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: What year did the NFL switch from Reebok to Nike? 1549 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 7: Twenty twelve? 1550 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: That's correct? 1551 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 4: I was fucking like somebody would that's a question. 1552 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: And Alex got that. No, Mike got it, he says, 1553 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: email or Alex got. 1554 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 5: It, blast name, No where it was from, just Alex. 1555 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: They wanted to get it. 1556 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 6: Was a ridiculous emails had Alex and some you know 1557 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 6: a bunch of numbers. 1558 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: All right, No wonder why how many career sass? Did 1559 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 1: Teddy Bruski have. 1560 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 3: How many career sacks? 1561 01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 4: Three? 1562 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 7: I'm want to say, Wait, let's do Jeopardy rule as 1563 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 7: close as that get over thirty seven? 1564 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 4: That's that's price is right? 1565 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's incorrect. Eighteen that's in thirty and a half. Oh, 1566 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: I was right, Colleen and Houston got that. And finally, 1567 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: when was the last time the Patriots had a top 1568 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: ten draft pick? 1569 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 10: Rab Ma? 1570 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 4: Well, yeah he was. He was ten though, right, sore 1571 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:22,560 Speaker 4: we going. 1572 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 3: That's top ten, top ten? The t they always correct. 1573 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 7: I no, no, I know what you're talking about with 1574 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 7: the confusion though numbers of eight. You know what always 1575 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:31,640 Speaker 7: confuses me? 1576 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: Mark? 1577 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,560 Speaker 7: What does your brain do when someone's like it was 1578 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 7: in the eighteenth century? What do you what do you do? 1579 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 10: Like? 1580 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 3: I have to think subtract one right immediately you think ninety. 1581 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 7: So that's the seventeen hundreds, got it? 1582 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 4: Wait? 1583 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: What you like in nineties? 1584 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 4: You know, I know nothing about that. 1585 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: Right now we're in the twenty first century. But the 1586 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: two thousands, you. 1587 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,799 Speaker 7: Know, it's always you always want to head in the century. 1588 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,799 Speaker 7: So back in the nineteenth century, that's the eighteen hundreds. 1589 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 7: It's not the nineties. 1590 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 4: Why can't it just make sense? I know that's numbers hard, 1591 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 4: doesn't make Oh, just like you know our system of 1592 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 4: measurement instead of the metric system. 1593 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,759 Speaker 7: Oh, don't get me started. 1594 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because like your. 1595 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 5: First birthday isn't the day you're born, You have to go. 1596 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Through that whole year. Talk about prognacy. 1597 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 3: Now, the years make makes sense, That's what I'm saying. 1598 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,759 Speaker 5: I calling it the twenty first century. But two thousands 1599 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 5: makes sense, right. 1600 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 7: Because the hundreds finished the second century. 1601 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I remember in grade school and you know, glad I 1602 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 1: fifty years ago or even more. You know, we have 1603 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: to get ready for the metrics system we're going to 1604 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: be converted in. It never happened. 1605 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 7: Kids, You were like, this is ridiculous. Why don't we 1606 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 7: just use this? This makes so much sense. Everything is connected, 1607 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,879 Speaker 7: it's all easier. No, but we're on the mile yards. 1608 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 7: There's a great recent nape Argazy Saturday and Live sketch 1609 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 7: about this whole thing, where it's like he's in colonial 1610 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 7: times explaining the ridiculous nature of like using measure by. 1611 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 8: Rocks, like I think an acre is how much one 1612 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 8: single man could reasonably plow in a day. 1613 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure, that's where that came from. 1614 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 20: That's what we're talking about when you come up with 1615 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 20: I'm gonna live in Tennessee, because there's no t That 1616 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 20: was the Alexis thing ever, right there, the acre came about, 1617 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 20: of course, Cliff Craven. 1618 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,600 Speaker 3: That was the amount that could reasonably be plowed by 1619 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 3: a man. 1620 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Who knows that I'm boring. 1621 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. That's the opposite of boring. 1622 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 8: Grade teacher Peace. 1623 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 7: I feel like Andy should weigh on this one, because 1624 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 7: if anybody's gonna like an acre, he'd be the guy. 1625 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I could do it too. 1626 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 3: I could do too, So I deserve to have two 1627 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 3: acres for the price of one. This is what you 1628 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 3: guys always But Fred's right. The two things that I spent, 1629 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, my elementary school years being drilled into drilled 1630 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 3: into my head. This is how it will be nineteen 1631 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 3: seventy six, nineteen seventy seven the metric system and soccer 1632 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 3: is the sport of the You guys didn't have to know. 1633 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 3: Those are the two things that everybody told me would be. 1634 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 8: At least you guys had to actually use cursive for 1635 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 8: some portion of your life. We had to learn it 1636 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 8: and then it was like instantly, Yeah. 1637 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: Cursive, but I think you know, as a country where 1638 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 1: the ultimate procrastinator is about the metrics, is sure, we 1639 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: just won't we just we'll put it off another year. 1640 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 4: That would really throw football off, Like so, what are 1641 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 4: we going to go to a hundred meter field instead 1642 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 4: of one hundred yards? 1643 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 7: How close are a meter in the yard? 1644 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,560 Speaker 4: It's not very Yeah, he doesn't know, he doesn't know. 1645 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 4: Why are you asking me these questions? 1646 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 1: A little more? 1647 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 3: You got to go to schoolhouse rock? But why do 1648 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 3: you ask the question? Think about it that way? It's 1649 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 3: really not that hard. 1650 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 7: I'm assuming you know all the accurate dimensions of a 1651 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 7: football field though from like you know, from the hashes 1652 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:47,599 Speaker 7: in and you know, et cetera. 1653 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like that's because I shouldn't know those types 1654 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:57,560 Speaker 4: of things, like like an acre is probably more you know, random, No, 1655 01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,600 Speaker 4: I think that that's probably better for life than me 1656 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 4: ran knowing how far the hashmarks are apart. 1657 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Like probably, I mean, yeah, but subjective. Everybody's different, you. 1658 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 5: Know, that's just how stupid it is. 1659 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Not your system. Let's go, let's go to a shot 1660 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. What's up for shod? 1661 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 9: Hey, what's up? I ain't gonna lie. I wanted to 1662 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 9: say something about Zacy because I think I do think 1663 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 9: that the team, just the team just look better with him. 1664 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 9: But I gotta I gotta talk about Bill because I 1665 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,599 Speaker 9: heard somebody call and I heard a couple of people 1666 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 9: call in just saying stuff about Bill and why we 1667 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 9: should keep them. And then they said something about the record. 1668 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 9: I'm gonna say that nobody cares about that record. I 1669 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 9: mean at least nobody. I mean, I don't care about 1670 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 9: the record. I don't care. I don't care if he 1671 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 9: gets with another team. I don't care about that. And 1672 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 9: and the reason why we want Bill we want to 1673 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 9: change because just look at just look at what the 1674 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 9: team has been, like you can't you can't keep living 1675 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 9: off the past and what I'm in, Like, just think 1676 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 9: about it like this, people who want Bill as a coach, 1677 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 9: Like if his name wasn't Bill Belichick, if it was 1678 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 9: you know, Tom Tom Smith, he wasn't, Like I just 1679 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 9: don't think about don't think about all the accolades that 1680 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 9: he's done. Let's think about all the stuff that that 1681 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 9: he's done as a coach and a GM the past 1682 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 9: three four five years. If he was anybody else they 1683 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 9: will be gone. They will be gone and it wouldn't 1684 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 9: even be a discussion. So we I think it's a 1685 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 9: lot of people, and I really think it's the older 1686 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 9: Patriot fans. You gotta let it go, like it's time 1687 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 9: for a change. I mean unless unless people like saying 1688 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 9: like three, three and thirteen seasons and stuff like that. 1689 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 9: They like seeing mediocre offenses, mediocre games, like it's time 1690 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 9: for a change. Like you can't you can't keep you 1691 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 9: can't keep living off the pass. That's like all of 1692 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 9: the Super. 1693 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 18: Bowls and stuff. 1694 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, we want to remember in charish it, but we're 1695 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 9: not going to see anymore than we keep. 1696 01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 12: We keep him and we. 1697 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 9: Keep going through the same suck. If we get a 1698 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 9: new quarterback with Bill, I don't I don't feel confident. 1699 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,680 Speaker 9: I'm not going to feel confident with him. 1700 01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: And how long is it gonna last? You know that's 1701 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 1: the thing. All right, thanks for shot and. 1702 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 3: Just you know, we don't have to be labor that. 1703 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 3: But he's right, if if if, if it was just 1704 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 3: a regular guy. But that's part of it. There's a 1705 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 3: lot more information than just the last four years, and 1706 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 3: that should be like Bill should get more leeway than 1707 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 3: Harry Smith, who's coached the last four years. 1708 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,320 Speaker 4: But you wouldn't you, like I would argue he had 1709 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 4: like did this last four years has been the leeway though? 1710 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, no, no, I'm not saying he's saying if 1711 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 3: this was anybody else, it would we wouldn't even be 1712 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 3: talking about it. No, we wouldn't. But that's part of it, 1713 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 3: Like the fact that he's won six titles, have been 1714 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:44,839 Speaker 3: to nine. 1715 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: The fact that people are even considering keeping him. It's 1716 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: because of his history. It's because we know how great 1717 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: he has been. 1718 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. I came across just something I thought was interesting 1719 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 7: in our little stat pack that we get the. 1720 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 3: Broncos mucho mass respect for the fact that you still 1721 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 3: printed out. 1722 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:01,600 Speaker 4: I enjoy it. 1723 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 7: Thank you. You don't have to thank me. 1724 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 4: You know I like it too. 1725 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 10: I do. 1726 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 7: The Broncos haven't been to the playoffs since they won 1727 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl in twenty fifteen. You how many head 1728 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 7: coaches they've. 1729 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,679 Speaker 3: Gone through in that time, I'll say three. 1730 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,679 Speaker 7: I got them pulled up, so, uh, vic fan Jerry 1731 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 7: Kubiak won the Super Bowl, but he was the coach, 1732 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 7: so I'm starting there. 1733 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,719 Speaker 3: Vig Fangio, you missed one vance Joseph and Nathaniel Hackett 1734 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 3: and now Peyton. 1735 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 7: Right, So I mean it's it's the Patriots, haven't I mean, 1736 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 7: that's you know ton Of to his point, like, yeah, 1737 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 7: I mean, this was a team that won the Super Bowl. 1738 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 7: I mean, the Patriots won the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen. 1739 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 7: You know, it's it's They've gone through, you know, four 1740 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 7: coaches and we're counting now. 1741 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 3: The only difference is if Kubiak didn't step away for 1742 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 3: health reasons, he probably would have been the coach for 1743 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:50,719 Speaker 3: another four years. 1744 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, do you know what I mean? 1745 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1746 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 7: Maybe, I mean without technical once Peyton fell out. 1747 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,799 Speaker 3: And didn't mean to add context. 1748 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to Spi and Fresno. What's up, speed. 1749 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,799 Speaker 18: Evan, Happy honkkah, hawksamea thank you, thank. 1750 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 4: You, see some people understand what. 1751 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 7: Does THISNKA thing? 1752 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,560 Speaker 4: Oh, don't be proved. 1753 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 18: That and a holly jolly Christmas for the rest of you. 1754 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 4: I don't have to say that part. 1755 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 7: And Tamara's birthday, Yes you definitely, Happy birthday. 1756 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 18: Happy birthday tomorrow. In the post game show, there was 1757 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,640 Speaker 18: a call from H. David in Atlanta, I think, and 1758 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 18: I thought it was interesting. He was he was really 1759 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 18: frustrated with Bill drafting Mafu only to give him, you know, 1760 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 18: like to have him ride the bench because of the 1761 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,680 Speaker 18: depth of safety, and you know, at the same time 1762 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 18: kind of neglecting glaring positions and need in the draft 1763 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 18: like tied it and tackle. And hearing that good discussion 1764 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 18: kind of reminded me of that Bellows Tech quote from 1765 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 18: I believe it was related from Urban Meyer, like five 1766 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 18: or sixty years ago, where Bill's talking about, you know, 1767 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 18: at this point in my career, I only want to 1768 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 18: coach guys I like or want to coach, and not 1769 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 18: other other players. And it's like whether it's Mapu or 1770 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 18: Jordan Richards, it just seems like Bill sometimes at least 1771 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:16,559 Speaker 18: prioritizes like a collection of traits over overall football talent. 1772 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 18: And what I wanted to ask you guys, do you 1773 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 18: see that as a change in him and his approach, 1774 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 18: Like you guys used to say, how like Tom changed, 1775 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 18: but Bill didn't change. 1776 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 3: But I wonder when you. 1777 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 18: Look at that quote, you know, he's saying at a 1778 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,799 Speaker 18: certain point his career, his approach to play or acquisition changed, 1779 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 18: And I just wonder just thoughts on all that stuff. 1780 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,560 Speaker 7: That's a good question I mean, and I've thought a 1781 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 7: little bit about that, and you know, maybe in Jordan 1782 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,680 Speaker 7: Richard's case, I get it because he was just like 1783 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 7: super duper nice guy, but you know, couldn't play and like, 1784 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 7: but like all the guys he's drafted and that he's 1785 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 7: missed on, like, I don't necessarily feel like and I 1786 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 7: mean I'm not meaning this as it's going to sound 1787 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,799 Speaker 7: as a shot, but they're not all these great, awesome 1788 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 7: guys You're like, Oh, I could see why personality wise, 1789 01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 7: he would want to have this guy. Like, they're all 1790 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 7: cantinuing to be kind of a mishmash of you know, 1791 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 7: across the spectrum of any average you know, personality spectrum. 1792 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 7: So I don't I just don't really see it. I mean, 1793 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 7: I understand what they're saying, and i'd love to be 1794 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 7: able to say, like, yeah, that's why they've had too 1795 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 7: many misses in the draft, that they're just trying to 1796 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 7: draft like, you know, nice guys who are gonna do 1797 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 7: what they're told. I do think that they are trying to, 1798 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 7: you know, project guys that can handle the demands of 1799 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 7: this place and what they ask of them. 1800 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've said it recently, if Bill's philosophy 1801 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 1: on drafting was simply he's the best guy that fits 1802 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,960 Speaker 1: our system and he's a good football player. Great, but 1803 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: there's all this other stuff that he factors in. Who's 1804 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: his head coach? You know? 1805 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 3: Do I owe a favor? Do I want a favor? 1806 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Has he been loyal to me? I want to be 1807 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 3: loyal to them? 1808 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Do I like that school? 1809 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 4: Did it? 1810 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,559 Speaker 1: Ba? Buh? You know? And I think that's too much 1811 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,600 Speaker 1: of what goes into his decisions, you know, like the 1812 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: whole the whole Great Chiano period. I'm not saying that 1813 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Slater wasn't good or Deron Harmon or Logan Ryan, but 1814 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,640 Speaker 1: but but it's not Slater, but you know all the 1815 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: guys that they harmon. I met mccorty when I said, Slater, 1816 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 1: leave that one. 1817 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 7: Like justin Fritz, it. 1818 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Was so obvious that he was doing a favor for 1819 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,759 Speaker 1: Greg Shiano and and and you know, boosting the program 1820 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 1: and boosting the Rutgers program like that should not be 1821 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 1: a factor, you know, And only Bill Belichick could get 1822 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: away with that. Any other GM or head coach the 1823 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 1: only be like what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, 1824 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I don't care if your son 1825 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: played there. 1826 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just striking because your second and third round 1827 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 7: pick are just kind of sitting on the bench and 1828 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,600 Speaker 7: playing minor roles right now. Meanwhile, you are having to 1829 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 7: like scramble to find just a tackle to play, and 1830 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 7: among other positions or I don't. 1831 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 3: Know, a quarterback because you just keep letting them go. 1832 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,720 Speaker 3: You know, you're exposing them to be plucked off your 1833 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 3: practice squad, and you think enough of it that you 1834 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 3: immediately replaced them every time it happens. 1835 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,800 Speaker 4: I will say that Mapu, just from the conversations I've 1836 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 4: had with him, really is a bright football high IQ 1837 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,639 Speaker 4: on mine for a young kid, Like he's level, he's 1838 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,800 Speaker 4: definitely beyond that. I know he's he's really like he 1839 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 4: can really talk the game at a high level. But 1840 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 4: I think with him, you know, we mentioned Dugger a 1841 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 4: little bit earlier in the show, like that that's who 1842 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,600 Speaker 4: he's here to replace. And it just is odd to 1843 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,600 Speaker 4: me that at certain positions there they are continuing to 1844 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 4: try to be a step ahead of holes that are 1845 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 4: coming down the road, but other positions just get the 1846 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 4: same thing but completely ignored. 1847 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 7: Like it's just that didn't like positions that they used 1848 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 7: to do that to tackle. 1849 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,720 Speaker 4: Right gets ignored. But strong safety. We now have six 1850 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 4: of those guys like, so don't worry about that position 1851 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 4: and a guy who played. 1852 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 3: Like extensive snaps at that position who doesn't even get. 1853 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 1: On the field. 1854 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 7: And yeah, right, he's the poor guy. You know, he 1855 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 7: seems he's he was, He seemed like he was emerging 1856 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 7: as like a team leader a guy, and now this 1857 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 7: year he is. I mean, I I think he's under 1858 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 7: contract for next year, but I would be surprised if 1859 01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 7: he's back. 1860 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Jeff in Brooklyn says Bill will leave. Bill will have 1861 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 1: success elsewhere. He liked Brady at a certain point in time, 1862 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: expressed that he didn't want to be here, but he's 1863 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,600 Speaker 1: the coach n GM, so his mutinous outbursts have greater ramifications. 1864 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Bill's the best, like Brady, but it's run its course. 1865 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about mutants out mutant y that's a 1866 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: little strong. 1867 01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,680 Speaker 3: I don't know about that either, But I mean, like 1868 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 3: that was the one thing I took exception to the 1869 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 3: gentleman in Tennessee. I can't remember his first name now, 1870 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,760 Speaker 3: Robert Robert in Tennessee. Yeah, just that you know, now 1871 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 3: we're trashing this, and like, we're not giving him credit 1872 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 3: for that, And really that couldn't be any more off base, 1873 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,560 Speaker 3: because I still today if you ask me who I 1874 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 3: think the best coach that's ever done it is, he'd 1875 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 3: be my answer. But I just don't think that he's 1876 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 3: coaching now the way he coached then. And I think 1877 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 3: some of the things that Fred brought up are part 1878 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 3: of that reason. And I do think that they need 1879 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 3: to get a little bit more modern. Did you guys 1880 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 3: catch this? About a week maybe maybe a week and 1881 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,719 Speaker 3: a half or so ago, there was a question, someone 1882 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 3: asked a question it might have been Callahan Alex's favorite 1883 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:18,120 Speaker 3: about sort of watching the league and other teams offensively, uh, 1884 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 3: you know stuff, you know, something along those lines basically, 1885 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 3: how much do you watch these teams? And he kind 1886 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 3: of said like, yeah, yeah, we're you know, we're in 1887 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 3: a day to day you know, we don't have time 1888 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,599 Speaker 3: to do. I don't watch other teams. And I'm like, yeah, 1889 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 3: I understand that. Probably Bill is not being super literal 1890 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 3: with that. I'm not dumb, Like I get that he 1891 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 3: is aware of how the Niners has an example of 1892 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,360 Speaker 3: play offense, but like, you're not watching other teams intently 1893 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 3: and trying to steal from them the way everybody else does. 1894 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you do that, Why wouldn't you offer, you know, yourself, 1895 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 3: all of the information as a potential aid to get 1896 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:57,679 Speaker 3: this offense in gear. 1897 01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a stubbornness. And I wonder if he 1898 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 5: is as stubborn as he kind of comes off as 1899 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 5: in that regard. 1900 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,879 Speaker 3: I just wonder how much he really respects offense. 1901 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of things is deflection. So if I 1902 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 1: tell you I don't watch it, you can't ask me 1903 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,640 Speaker 1: about it because I haven't built an excuse not to 1904 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:14,640 Speaker 1: have an answer for it. 1905 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 4: You know. 1906 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 1: But maybe he doesn't just doesn't tell it. I don't know, 1907 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 1: But that's, you know, one of the reasons why a 1908 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,640 Speaker 1: lot of the media get frustrated with him. 1909 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 7: I think it's just as striking, just the contrast though 1910 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 7: to on the defensive side of the ball, and you know, 1911 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 7: kind of the creativity that they employ, and you know, 1912 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 7: I'm sure Brady enabled them to be a lot more creative. 1913 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,599 Speaker 7: I mean, we've talked about this a little bit. When 1914 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 7: you don't have the talent, can you really afford to 1915 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 7: install a new game plan every week? Like don't you 1916 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,360 Speaker 7: just have to get back to a point when you 1917 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 7: just do what you do and you do it really well. 1918 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 7: And I mean a lot of teams get by on that. 1919 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,479 Speaker 7: But I think they've been spoiled. You know, they've been 1920 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 7: spoiled with their success and the things that they've had 1921 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 7: success at and I think, you know, they continue to 1922 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 7: believe that they can get back to those things. And 1923 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,680 Speaker 7: I mean that's that's been the challenge. And I mean, 1924 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 7: I think going back to the call from Tennessee, it's 1925 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 7: you know, does Bill want to keep in this? And 1926 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 7: you know what really I mean, we heard Evan kind 1927 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 7: of say what the pitch would be, you know, of 1928 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 7: putting on the kind of the quarterback and you know, 1929 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 7: the turnovers and those things. But I don't know, It's 1930 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 7: just it seems like a big lift right now, trying 1931 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 7: to get everything back in line. 1932 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I hate to say it, but the 1933 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 1: money is a factor too. He's being paid more than 1934 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 1: any coach in sports. Yeah, that's a big part of that. 1935 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,280 Speaker 1: You hate to say that, but it has to be 1936 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 1: aj in the Bay Area, but from Providence. Listening to 1937 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 1: the earlier caller reminds me of how much Belichick has 1938 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 1: done for this organization. And I'll admit that I've been 1939 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 1: very critical of Bill and extremely frustrated with this team 1940 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 1: and his management of the quarterback and wide receiver position. 1941 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: But maybe we are understanding how much the loss of 1942 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 1: Bill would be would be the end of everything we 1943 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,599 Speaker 1: have left of the Dynasty era. But I still believe 1944 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,880 Speaker 1: it's time to move on, and I sincerely hope for 1945 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 1: a positive end to this era better than Brady's departure. 1946 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 1: I also have to say that you guys have no 1947 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: idea how much this podcast means to us fans. I 1948 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,360 Speaker 1: listen to every episode because you guys articulate how we 1949 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 1: fans feel. You keep it as genuine as we would. 1950 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,200 Speaker 1: You were probably the only thing right now that keeps 1951 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 1: me interested in this team. Fred and Paul are the 1952 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,760 Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady of Patriots Radio, and I don't want 1953 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 1: to hear any more about needing a raise. 1954 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 3: Pay that man. You guys are performing better than ever before. 1955 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 3: I'm the Brady, what are you else? 1956 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,679 Speaker 7: I think I'm the Edelman, You're the support coming late, 1957 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 7: Andy was the Welker. 1958 01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 1: You're like, you're like Larry's Izzo. 1959 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 3: No, I'm really tough yeah, you know the other part 1960 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 3: of that as you were talking about you know what 1961 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 3: Evan said, like the plan that he goes to Robert with, 1962 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 3: and you make a good point like we don't talk 1963 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 3: about the GM a lot to Fred's point, and we 1964 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 3: don't talk about this. Do you think Bill wants to 1965 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 3: be back right? I don't think that's ever really outside. 1966 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 3: He might be just as fed up as anybody else. 1967 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 7: Does he look at this team and you know, not necessarily. 1968 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 7: I mean, we can talk about blame, but you know, 1969 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 7: just look at the team and say, look, I gotta 1970 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 7: be honest, this is going to take too long to 1971 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 7: repair this. I see what this team is, and you know, 1972 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,679 Speaker 7: no matter how it's kind of ended up at this point, 1973 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 7: this is what it is. And I gotta be honest, 1974 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 7: I only have a few years left. I don't think 1975 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,720 Speaker 7: I have the time to put all the pieces back 1976 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 7: into place. 1977 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,679 Speaker 1: Uh, Jack and Ann Arbors is a meter is one 1978 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 1: point zero nine three six one yards. So a meter 1979 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 1: is point zero nine three six one yards longer than 1980 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,720 Speaker 1: a yard. Very similar, it's a little longer than a yard. 1981 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave you my schoolhouse rock. 1982 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Let's go. Does Bill become a law pol Patty and am. 1983 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 11: Hey, Merry Christmas and. 1984 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:46,839 Speaker 18: Hankah. 1985 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, first thing. 1986 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,640 Speaker 21: First, I got to give a shout out to my 1987 01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 21: fellow wack packer's cat Chicago Christmas, the Tie and Chester 1988 01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:58,679 Speaker 21: and Portland and spread. 1989 01:29:59,160 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1990 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 21: Can we just keep it this sweet kid? 1991 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 3: Oh No, I like I like that and I mean 1992 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 3: what I said, like that, that kind of loyalty, that's admirable. 1993 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:11,799 Speaker 3: I think that's admirable. 1994 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 7: It's hard to call into us and yell at us too. 1995 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,559 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's not for some people. Everybody does that true. 1996 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Unlike me. 1997 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 21: It was very entertaining, but just a sort of answer 1998 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 21: woman and fell them to like, you know, I've been 1999 01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 21: a Pats fan for almost forty years now. And Paul 2000 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 21: and Mike, you know, you probably might not like big 2001 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 21: or you may vaguely recall, but after the Cowboys game, 2002 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,360 Speaker 21: I said I was done with Belichick. I was a macpacker. 2003 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 21: I was done with Mac after that game too, And 2004 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,600 Speaker 21: my fellow whack packer can can attest to this. I 2005 01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 21: said they'd be lucky to win three more games this year. 2006 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 21: And I don't I can't understand. I can't wrap my 2007 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:57,479 Speaker 21: head around how anybody any Patriots fans being completely objective 2008 01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,759 Speaker 21: can look at what Belichick is done to the offensive 2009 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,040 Speaker 21: out of the roster at least and the special teams 2010 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 21: over the last few years and say he deserves another 2011 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,760 Speaker 21: stat And like you said earlier, Paul, it it just 2012 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:13,320 Speaker 21: looks like he hasn't evolved as far as like coaching 2013 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:14,759 Speaker 21: or wanting to coach offense. 2014 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 13: You know. 2015 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,639 Speaker 3: That's I mean, that would be why and not having 2016 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 3: any fact to back it up, obviously, I just feel 2017 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 3: it feels from watching the way they play that he 2018 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,599 Speaker 3: has sort of a disdain for offense, like I want 2019 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,479 Speaker 3: to show you that any offense. And I do think 2020 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,760 Speaker 3: that this gets to the way that they coach the 2021 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 3: second half the other day, like I'm not letting that 2022 01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 3: offense get over thirty points on me, So I don't care. 2023 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm not going to win the game because the game's lost. 2024 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 3: And I get it, the game was lost, but thirty one. 2025 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,599 Speaker 3: Other head coaches would have gone for it in an 2026 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,400 Speaker 3: effort to try to make a miracle comeback. He I 2027 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,040 Speaker 3: think was more interested in keeping the other team under 2028 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 3: thirty for whatever reason. I don't know how that makes 2029 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 3: the defense look any better. The defense would not good 2030 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 3: on Sunday, But I think he thinks it looks better 2031 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,679 Speaker 3: because they only scored twenty seven. 2032 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 7: Do you think it has to do with that? He 2033 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 7: kind of could be hands off for the last two 2034 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 7: decades on the offense, and it was pretty much you know, 2035 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 7: Tom and I know. I mean, obviously we've seen clips 2036 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:13,200 Speaker 7: of Brady and they meet him. 2037 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 3: That's why they talked about it. 2038 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 7: But he didn't really have to maybe be the driving 2039 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 7: force behind him. 2040 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,200 Speaker 3: Don't you think if you put him on a lie 2041 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,200 Speaker 3: detector test, right, Brady at the height of his powers, 2042 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 3: let's say, oh seven, you don't think that he thinks 2043 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 3: he could put a defense together that would keep that 2044 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 3: team in check. 2045 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,520 Speaker 7: Yah, take away Moss over the top, get down on Welker. 2046 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 3: Which was only part of the equation that year. That 2047 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,840 Speaker 3: was two years later that he said, yeah, but like sure, 2048 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 3: I mean I think he like I like I think 2049 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 3: you You caught a glimpse in that Monday night game 2050 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,680 Speaker 3: in the COVID year when I was in my uh 2051 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,679 Speaker 3: was I was down in my lair the only game 2052 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,280 Speaker 3: I've ever missed when I was so sick, and I'm 2053 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:58,719 Speaker 3: listening to Lewis Riddick and Brian Greasy absolutely torched Josh 2054 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,519 Speaker 3: Allen out of the production meeting. Yeah, and I'm like, 2055 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,559 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? He thinks that little of Josh Allen, 2056 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 3: and I believe that to this day that he does 2057 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,919 Speaker 3: not buy. I think he has respect from Mahomes the ability, 2058 01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 3: but I don't believe that he thinks any of these 2059 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 3: guys are all that. 2060 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,240 Speaker 7: I still though, like because I kind of approach the 2061 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,680 Speaker 7: game too. I think a lot of people just you know, 2062 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 7: approach the game through a defensive lens, and I think 2063 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,880 Speaker 7: that that will always be how he is and that's 2064 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,519 Speaker 7: kind of, you know, personally just when I like to 2065 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,640 Speaker 7: watch the game, that's my favorite part side of the ball. 2066 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 7: So I don't know, I just it's it's hard because 2067 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 7: how can you have a disdain for offense, Like you 2068 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 7: have to understand you have to score points in this 2069 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,320 Speaker 7: league and you're never going to go into every game 2070 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 7: thinking like, well, we're just gonna shut him down and 2071 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,840 Speaker 7: hopefully we get a point or two, you know, like 2072 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,400 Speaker 7: that like that part of it I struggle with. But 2073 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,400 Speaker 7: I do think that that maybe he's been out of 2074 01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,880 Speaker 7: it and you know, he hasn't had to do the 2075 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 7: things like you said earlier. 2076 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 3: The way he wants implementing my point, Yeah, you know, 2077 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 3: like I think that because of Brady he was able 2078 01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,639 Speaker 3: to win anyway. Yeah, because Brady was just that good. 2079 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 3: I think he went into games thinking I want to 2080 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 3: win twenty to seventeen. I don't want to win thirty 2081 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 3: seven to thirty four. But Brady had the ability to 2082 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,120 Speaker 3: win any way that the game unfolded. 2083 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,200 Speaker 7: I think that's interest pot because I mean I feel 2084 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,560 Speaker 7: like he probably every week is pouring a lot of 2085 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 7: energy into the defensive side of the ball and thinking that, 2086 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,479 Speaker 7: you know, if the offense is taken care of, if 2087 01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,679 Speaker 7: we can just if we can do our job on defense, 2088 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 7: and that's what I enjoy, then we're gonna have a chance. 2089 01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 7: So I mean I kind of see what Just. 2090 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 3: Like I totally admit that this is a complete exaggeration, 2091 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,679 Speaker 3: Like I'm not in any way suggesting that Bill doesn't 2092 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,800 Speaker 3: want to win no matter what the score is. Yeah, 2093 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,479 Speaker 3: Like Bill wants to win, right right, Like I understand, 2094 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,880 Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking in a perfect world, like in 2095 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 3: his mind, Yeah, wouldn't it be great if I could 2096 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,840 Speaker 3: beat Peyton Manning twenty four to fourteen When the week 2097 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 3: before they scored eight hundred points against Kansas City and 2098 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,479 Speaker 3: didn't punt, Like that's what he's what he's looking at it. 2099 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,240 Speaker 3: He didn't want to win that game because we just 2100 01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,120 Speaker 3: outscored him like they did in the regular season game 2101 01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,960 Speaker 3: thirty eight thirty four. He wanted to win it on 2102 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 3: his terms. Yeah, I think if it's perfect, in a 2103 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,160 Speaker 3: perfect world, he'll take a win no matter what. 2104 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 7: I see what you're saying. But I would assume that 2105 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 7: like someone like Andy Reid when he looks at an 2106 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 7: opponent and he says, all right, this is how we're 2107 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 7: gonna light him up on offense, and that is his focus. 2108 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 7: And I think probably with the same kind of thing 2109 01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 7: with the defense, he's like spags, keep it in check, 2110 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,280 Speaker 7: you know, get aggressive here, don't get aggressive here. But 2111 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,800 Speaker 7: you know, generally this these are the curveballs. We're going 2112 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,280 Speaker 7: to throw them on offense. And you know, I think, 2113 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 7: and I mean I've talked about this before. I mean, 2114 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,679 Speaker 7: I think the evolution of the league fed perfectly into 2115 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,960 Speaker 7: the brilliant mind of Andy Reid, who is an excellent 2116 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,920 Speaker 7: offensive football coach and is offensive football exploded. He is 2117 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 7: so smart he's able to take every advantage of that, 2118 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 7: and for someone like Bill who posted defensively, it's. 2119 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 1: Gotten harder and harder and harder. But if Andy Reid 2120 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't have a guy like Mahomes, he couldn't do the 2121 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:47,720 Speaker 1: things he wants to do. 2122 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,000 Speaker 3: He would need a smart quarterback, but you wouldn't be 2123 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,360 Speaker 3: as successful as he is. Mahomes put you over the top, right, 2124 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,599 Speaker 3: But he scored forty with Alex Smith against you too. Yeah, 2125 01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 3: that's true, like he had like Mike is first of all, 2126 01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 3: Donovan me now is this averages average can get You 2127 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 3: went to four straight conference championship games with them. Now, Now, 2128 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:09,320 Speaker 3: Mahomes has made him a great coach, no, no question. 2129 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 3: And there's no great coaches that don't have that great 2130 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 3: quarterback to go with you. I mean Mahomes, I mean 2131 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:15,759 Speaker 3: any Rey was a good coach in Philly. 2132 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 7: He's a great coach with Yeah, and just what I like, 2133 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,640 Speaker 7: I mean we saw it last week, Like it's just 2134 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 7: he has fun on offense, Like you know the stuff 2135 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,519 Speaker 7: that he that play was fun. I a huge You're 2136 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 7: not a fun guy, but but you know, like the 2137 01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 7: one where they get in this circle and they're going 2138 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 7: like I don't know, it's just it's it's it brings 2139 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 7: some entertainment to. 2140 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,120 Speaker 3: The game when they when they were like the one 2141 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,120 Speaker 3: on Sunday that was that was awesome. 2142 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the reason and when you pull it off 2143 01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,800 Speaker 1: it it may it puts the defense on their heels. 2144 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,240 Speaker 1: It makes them real Did you see the replay? Their 2145 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,599 Speaker 1: heads like, oh my god, what did I just see? 2146 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 1: And you're taking that to the next series of downs, 2147 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 1: like I just saw something. I still can't figure out, 2148 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,120 Speaker 1: what are they going to do next? 2149 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,680 Speaker 3: There was like six people on the defense sort of 2150 01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,360 Speaker 3: moving to the wrong side. Yeah, as that play was unfolding, 2151 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,680 Speaker 3: and I would say like this, you know the two 2152 01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 3: the touchdowns that they scored in the Super Bowl. I 2153 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,280 Speaker 3: don't know if you remember this, Mic, I know you 2154 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,759 Speaker 3: don't tend to remember plays now, you don't like football 2155 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:16,320 Speaker 3: like I do. Shots you remember like the little uh 2156 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 3: you know, the reverse motion and you know, like and 2157 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Sky Moore is completely uncovered Kadarius 2158 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,160 Speaker 3: Tony of all people didn't drop it is completely uncovered. 2159 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 3: Those plays. I'm like, there's a lot of design, yea, 2160 01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,800 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of window dressing with the 2161 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,920 Speaker 3: motion they're trying to confuse you and you're seeing it work. 2162 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,519 Speaker 3: You know, that's the little ring around the rosy stuff. 2163 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,839 Speaker 7: No, I know that and that and not to be honest. 2164 01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,120 Speaker 3: To your head, yeah, like no, there's a reason for it. 2165 01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 3: And I just watched, but there's a reason. Like they 2166 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,519 Speaker 3: had a little shovel that they threw earlier in that 2167 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,519 Speaker 3: game that the Patriots kind of snuffed out a little 2168 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,960 Speaker 3: bit and stuffed it for a couple of yards like that, Like, 2169 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 3: not all of them work, but Fred's right, they get 2170 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 3: that in your head. 2171 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 7: But even the screen pass that they had, like that 2172 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,559 Speaker 7: same thing, Like, I mean, it's schemed up that way 2173 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,400 Speaker 7: to get every but he following Kelsey and I mean, 2174 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 7: just one more point I'll make on this. You know, 2175 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,519 Speaker 7: Bill talking about Ernie. Last week, and Andrew Callahan wrote 2176 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,560 Speaker 7: an article about the practice squad and what goes into it, 2177 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 7: and you know, Bill pointed out that Ernie, you know, 2178 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 7: was responsible for what plays are we gonna run? And 2179 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,559 Speaker 7: He's like, look, they have all these like hundreds of options, 2180 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,679 Speaker 7: but Ernie would go through and pick out which ones 2181 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,120 Speaker 7: are most going to be beneficial to us that if 2182 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,439 Speaker 7: we see something similar, we'll be able to figure it out. 2183 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 7: And you know, not to make this about like Bill 2184 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,080 Speaker 7: missing Ernie. But when that play comes up, I just 2185 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,160 Speaker 7: wonder what kind of stuff were they running in practice? 2186 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,760 Speaker 7: Were they, you know, with that kind of stuff on 2187 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 7: the plate, and did they you know, have some kind 2188 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,880 Speaker 7: of familiarity. I mean, look at the Wildcat game, you know, 2189 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:36,840 Speaker 7: like they didn't have that on the table when that 2190 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 7: game happened in two thousand and eight. 2191 01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,360 Speaker 1: That's another you know, we talked about Dante being you know, 2192 01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,160 Speaker 1: a huge loss, Ernie might be just as big. 2193 01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:44,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2194 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,800 Speaker 1: Uh, Jeff. In Canada, I keep hearing media outside this 2195 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,640 Speaker 1: show talking about what Bill will say to Robert for 2196 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 1: why he should get to stay. This makes no sense 2197 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 1: to me. I've had to fire people for this. Isn't 2198 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 1: a humble brag because it's not fun at all. However, 2199 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 1: I was trained to keep it short and simple and 2200 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,080 Speaker 1: go and strong and leave no room for debate. There 2201 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,400 Speaker 1: was no back and forth trying to convince me you 2202 01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,639 Speaker 1: can keep your job. I just hope the media don't 2203 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,840 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, because if there is a 2204 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 1: give and take meeting, I think Bill will stay, and 2205 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,519 Speaker 1: I don't believe it deserves to stay. A couple of 2206 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,640 Speaker 1: down seasons after Brady were fine, but he's actually just 2207 01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:23,000 Speaker 1: bottoming out now. We should have bottomed out in twenty twenty. 2208 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,960 Speaker 7: Well, I mean I disagree in the sense that I 2209 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,080 Speaker 7: think Bill deserves it back and forth and that's a 2210 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 7: you know, a respect kind of thing, and he deserves 2211 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,519 Speaker 7: to state his case. And again, does he want to 2212 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 7: stay like I think that's part of the question as well. 2213 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,360 Speaker 3: And it's I say this all the time. Sports isn't 2214 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,000 Speaker 3: real life, you know it? Yeah, I mean I think 2215 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 3: he's exactly right. In the corporate world, do you want 2216 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,160 Speaker 3: to keep it short and sweet that it's not like 2217 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 3: we're thinking about moving on from you. We're moving on 2218 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 3: from you. But there's it's it is a little different 2219 01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,080 Speaker 3: in sports. It is a little different when a guy's 2220 01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:54,080 Speaker 3: won six titles. 2221 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,000 Speaker 5: You can't like, put belchick on a pip. 2222 01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 4: It's it's so different. 2223 01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 7: What's a p I was thinking of up in the air? 2224 01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,439 Speaker 7: Do you guys see that movie with us taking my 2225 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:04,519 Speaker 7: college job? 2226 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 3: Nickname? Oh yeah, Philip? 2227 01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 5: What's your middle name? 2228 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,640 Speaker 3: Not ignatious? No, it was from great Expectations. 2229 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,799 Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to Kareem in Boston. What's up, Kareem? 2230 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,120 Speaker 13: How does fellas Hey hey, I listen here in twenty fifteen, 2231 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 13: I was sitting around a bunch of mouth breathers in 2232 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,719 Speaker 13: a waste of a city, Danver when Rob. 2233 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 9: Goronkowski was injured. 2234 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,280 Speaker 11: You know what these people did, what they cheered as 2235 01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,160 Speaker 11: this guy basically lost his knee on the field, heathens. 2236 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 3: He was okay though, and then played the next game. 2237 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,680 Speaker 1: Right, remember that I thought he died too. 2238 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 3: I was like, that was Harper's Yes, Harper's mouff good, 2239 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,040 Speaker 3: good Fred? What's up, Kareem. I'm sorry I missed you. 2240 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 3: I missed you. There. 2241 01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,479 Speaker 9: The point is, these. 2242 01:40:58,360 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 11: Mouth breathers cheered. 2243 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2244 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 11: So for me this week, this is a must win. 2245 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:07,280 Speaker 11: You know, Jirn Daniels or Darren Bay don't matter. Let's 2246 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 11: get a win boys. 2247 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thanks for listen. They had trouble winning in 2248 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 1: Denver when Brady was here. 2249 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,559 Speaker 3: Right, I mean yeah, I mean obviously the cheering when 2250 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:17,360 Speaker 3: guys are heard is. 2251 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,720 Speaker 7: That they have ten home games a year, and you know, 2252 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 7: contractually obligated High Tower went out on that game too. 2253 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,200 Speaker 7: They remember, they like ran all over him, and even 2254 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,080 Speaker 7: the overtime. 2255 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,920 Speaker 3: Overtime game when it was like a fifty yard run. Yeah, right, yep. 2256 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 3: Can you remember that, Alex right vaguely? You know, you 2257 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 3: don't shut up? 2258 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,439 Speaker 7: Like she was working, she was journaling. 2259 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 3: I had my first job, she was channing, if. 2260 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,880 Speaker 1: There was what was your first job? 2261 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 5: My first job that wasn't like SoC Treffing was working 2262 01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:48,799 Speaker 5: at Marshall's. 2263 01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 7: Oh good job. 2264 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,960 Speaker 1: First, speaking of Denver, was the safety game in Denver? 2265 01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:58,679 Speaker 1: Like the three the quintessential Bill Belichick coach game. 2266 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,400 Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, I think it's just one that that 2267 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 7: showed willing to go a little bit unconventional, you know, 2268 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 7: I think and that I mean, it gets a lot 2269 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,560 Speaker 7: of attention for sure, but you know, in doing the 2270 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,640 Speaker 7: three thing the way I mean it's it's not a 2271 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,519 Speaker 7: lot of the players really like talked about. 2272 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 3: It was a very abnormal poor performance by the p 2273 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 3: I mean it was Danny Knell led Denver Broncos that 2274 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:19,920 Speaker 3: didn't belong on the field with them that night. 2275 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 7: And as great as that wasn't, the drive, I think 2276 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:23,200 Speaker 7: like Brady's drive at. 2277 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 1: The end was was well. And also you know, Denver 2278 01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,840 Speaker 1: screwed up by letting that right head and then I. 2279 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 3: Didn't even know what happened to you. Where are where 2280 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 3: are these memories? Coming from. That's exactly right. How do 2281 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 3: you where were you getting You never have. 2282 01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:37,640 Speaker 1: All these details, it's locked in. 2283 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,640 Speaker 3: Were you were you working on the three documentary with 2284 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:42,240 Speaker 3: that game? 2285 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:43,479 Speaker 1: That game? I remember? 2286 01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? That was That was a great game and that 2287 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 3: was an unbelievable throw to Gibbons for the oh yeah, 2288 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 3: game winning touchdown. That was an awesome game. Ye, the game, 2289 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 3: if you will. They all have names. 2290 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,040 Speaker 1: I call it the Safety Game. 2291 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody else calls it the Lonnie Pack. 2292 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,720 Speaker 1: No, they don't. I've never heard one person Dylan's in 2293 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 1: Florida saying they're saying, what's up? 2294 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:05,960 Speaker 4: Dylan? 2295 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:08,639 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I love the show. 2296 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,040 Speaker 12: Quick question for you. 2297 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 10: I just want to know it was everything you know. Now, 2298 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 10: going back to that twenty one draft, I think Mac 2299 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,960 Speaker 10: was picked fifteen, would you, like, what would you do? 2300 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,400 Speaker 10: Would you take another quarterback who got basted behind him 2301 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:30,679 Speaker 10: or would you take another player and try and figure 2302 01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,120 Speaker 10: quarterback out someone else? But I just I wanted to 2303 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 10: know what you guys would do. 2304 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 7: I mean, to be honest, I would take Mac. 2305 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to go on full disclosure. It's not going 2306 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 3: to make me look good. No, I would have traded 2307 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 3: up and I would have taken Justin Fields. Yeah, so 2308 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 3: I can't accuse me of being one of these guys 2309 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 3: to tell you, Yeah, now, I had my eye on 2310 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,120 Speaker 3: you know, I knew brock Purdy was going to be 2311 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:56,479 Speaker 3: great in the seventh. I just waited. 2312 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,519 Speaker 1: I can't be a fraud. I was happy they took Max. 2313 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:00,719 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 2314 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,120 Speaker 7: I was and I understood it at the time. And 2315 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,880 Speaker 7: I mean now you it's easy and rest it's easy 2316 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 7: in retrospect to go back and see, you know, maybe 2317 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:09,759 Speaker 7: some of the red flags that you might have missed. 2318 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,519 Speaker 7: You know, I don't know. Do you guys still think 2319 01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,439 Speaker 7: he has a chance to play in this league or 2320 01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 7: do you think it's over? I mean to play, be 2321 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:18,679 Speaker 7: good to play. 2322 01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,519 Speaker 3: Yes, he has a chance to get a chance. Yeah, 2323 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:23,679 Speaker 3: he'll get He'll get another chance to play. 2324 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,080 Speaker 7: You think he's on the team next year, I. 2325 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 1: Mean Tommy DeVito's playing. I mean no, I mean just 2326 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,080 Speaker 1: this year. There's been a bunch of guys that haven't 2327 01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 1: played in a while. You know, I know he's younger, 2328 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,800 Speaker 1: but you know that came out of nowhere and had 2329 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,240 Speaker 1: to play, you know, and Mac Will I think always 2330 01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 1: have a job. 2331 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. The thing I kind of been thinking back, I 2332 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,080 Speaker 7: was thinking about it today and I'm not sure that Paul, 2333 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,960 Speaker 7: you probably remember it was last year, and I think 2334 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,479 Speaker 7: it was one of the ones where like Mac like 2335 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 7: did one of those embellished falls after being blown out 2336 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,120 Speaker 7: of bounds, and I had kind of a rant on. 2337 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,280 Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips of was that taken Jail Phillips? 2338 01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 7: You know that that was just one of the those 2339 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 7: things where it was like, man, he's kind of like 2340 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,639 Speaker 7: like that, you know, with the grabbing Brian burns his foot, 2341 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,080 Speaker 7: like just the extra stuff. And that was when I 2342 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,439 Speaker 7: started to sour on him a little bit. And now 2343 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,560 Speaker 7: I just can't help but wonder, you know, was the 2344 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,320 Speaker 7: team kind of like and I'm talking about the players, 2345 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,120 Speaker 7: not necessarily the coaches, but with the team kind of 2346 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,160 Speaker 7: souring on that kind of stuff from him because I 2347 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,439 Speaker 7: don't know, I just there's just something about him. I 2348 01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,200 Speaker 7: don't I don't know for sure if the team ever 2349 01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 7: really truly got behind him. 2350 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you're right, And I think that that's 2351 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,000 Speaker 3: part of the criticism too, because a lot of that 2352 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,120 Speaker 3: stuff was stuff that Saban talked about, the McEnroe stuff 2353 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 3: that he was a tennis bratt and they should have 2354 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,800 Speaker 3: known that. Yeah, they did know that. I'm I'm sure 2355 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 3: they knew it. 2356 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,240 Speaker 8: Seeing especially defense, it was like Trent Brown and the 2357 01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,840 Speaker 8: whole defense. When Malik left, it was like all their 2358 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,560 Speaker 8: Instagram it was like Malie Cunningham. 2359 01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 7: Died getting demoted. It's like a fart in the wind, 2360 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:51,840 Speaker 7: It's gone. 2361 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 1: What that tells you is that there is a player 2362 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:59,639 Speaker 1: culture that is different than the coaching culture. 2363 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 3: Annoyed by by some of that though, Like really it 2364 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,559 Speaker 3: was just Trent Brown that took a shot at the coaches. 2365 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,479 Speaker 3: You know, they all were happy for Malee Cunningham to 2366 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:12,439 Speaker 3: get signed. Trent Brown took a backhanded shot at the 2367 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:17,160 Speaker 3: coaching because go and let your ability shine someone that respects. 2368 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:17,679 Speaker 1: Your ability to spread. 2369 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 3: And then Jalen Mills this past week with the Jack 2370 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:27,960 Speaker 3: Jones thing, that's reprehensible. I'm sorry. Yeah, Jack Jones failed 2371 01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,559 Speaker 3: on the field and off of it with the Patriots 2372 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,160 Speaker 3: multiple They didn't know him anything. They gave him multiple 2373 01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:36,759 Speaker 3: chances on and off the field. The on part doesn't 2374 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 3: get talked about enough. Go back and watch the last 2375 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,800 Speaker 3: game that he played as a Patriot, the Miami game, 2376 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,800 Speaker 3: and tell me that he just got let go because 2377 01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,840 Speaker 3: of his off field stuff. 2378 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,920 Speaker 7: No, and anything to continue on Jack Jones soon, like 2379 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,600 Speaker 7: even Jack Jones sending the Bailly like a bunch of 2380 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,439 Speaker 7: billy zappy tweets, you know, like like kind of hyping 2381 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,840 Speaker 7: him up like it's and it. 2382 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,720 Speaker 3: Strikes me as a little state that's part of it. 2383 01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:58,599 Speaker 1: It's like, right, there's a Bailey camp. 2384 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's why I think they both should 2385 01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:01,840 Speaker 3: be gone next year. 2386 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nate in Northeast Pennsylvania. I know there's been a 2387 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 1: lot of conversation about Bill's record without Brady, but I'm 2388 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,400 Speaker 1: curious if you guys can recall what the narrative was 2389 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 1: around specifically Belichick during the eight team with Castle under center. 2390 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 1: Obviously the team around Castle was built way different than 2391 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,880 Speaker 1: today's roster. But I'm wondering if you remember how much 2392 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,240 Speaker 1: praise Bill got back then or what people were saying 2393 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 1: heaped with praise. 2394 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think that that's one of those context 2395 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,960 Speaker 7: things where, first of all, I mean, and you could 2396 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,040 Speaker 7: hear Bill say it himself and the O nine doc 2397 01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 7: that they did about him, they couldn't beat the good teams, 2398 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,759 Speaker 7: that was it. They couldn't beat the Chargers, they couldn't 2399 01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 7: beat the Steelers. They lost to what the Jets in 2400 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:42,320 Speaker 7: that overtime game, I mean, and that was why they 2401 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 7: missed the playoffs and they played the NFC West when 2402 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,040 Speaker 7: it was terrible. So like on paper, it was I 2403 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,160 Speaker 7: think an eleven and five season, and it looks good 2404 01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 7: in that regard, but I. 2405 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,840 Speaker 3: Think they literally had one They had one quality win 2406 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,439 Speaker 3: that year, and that was the second Miami game, which. 2407 01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,800 Speaker 7: Like, let's let's face it, like that's kind of the 2408 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,720 Speaker 7: team of the last few years. They can't beat the 2409 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:01,640 Speaker 7: good I mean, it's fallen off this year, so probably not, 2410 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,719 Speaker 7: but the last couple of years couldn't beat the good teams. 2411 01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would you agree that was the narrative. They 2412 01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,120 Speaker 1: just couldn't beat the good teams. 2413 01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,519 Speaker 3: Because yeah, but but Bill, like to the email's point, 2414 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 3: the Bill got a ton. 2415 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:14,880 Speaker 1: Of credit credit for it. For sure, they still do 2416 01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:15,599 Speaker 1: now a lot. 2417 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,080 Speaker 3: But I think that people overlook the fact that they 2418 01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,640 Speaker 3: lunt they won five fewer games than they won the 2419 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,160 Speaker 3: year before. That's how good that team was. They went 2420 01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 3: undefeated and then. 2421 01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,640 Speaker 7: And then defense was getting old too. Like that was 2422 01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,840 Speaker 7: kind of last night for Harrison and Bruce Key. 2423 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400 Speaker 3: But don't you think when you look at it that way, like, 2424 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,360 Speaker 3: let's just say they had gone twelve and four in 2425 01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:39,599 Speaker 3: seven and then Brady tears is acl and you know, well, 2426 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 3: then if you go eleven and five, that's really impressive. 2427 01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,240 Speaker 3: But if you win five fewer games than you did 2428 01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,800 Speaker 3: the year before, you're just like everybody else. 2429 01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,760 Speaker 1: Well, Paul, let me ask you a question that we 2430 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,840 Speaker 1: all know. They went eighteen and won the year before. 2431 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,639 Speaker 1: Right then Brady gets hurt in the first game against 2432 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and he's out. Had Brady been healthy that year, 2433 01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: what kind of thing it would have been? You think 2434 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,640 Speaker 1: they'd have been fourteen to two. You don't think, I'm not. 2435 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you they're gonna go undefeated again. 2436 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,320 Speaker 1: You don't think there've been any hangover from losing the 2437 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:06,840 Speaker 1: way they did. 2438 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,720 Speaker 3: Did you feel like that going into that I don't know. 2439 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:10,120 Speaker 1: We never got it. 2440 01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,599 Speaker 3: I thought they were. I thought that team was completely loaded. 2441 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:13,799 Speaker 3: I loaded. 2442 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,080 Speaker 7: I just say the same Pence said defense was getting 2443 01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 7: old though, they were getting old, and they had a 2444 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 7: lot of injuries that year, and I think that those 2445 01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,639 Speaker 7: were like miles building up. They lost to Sante. 2446 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,800 Speaker 1: Right, Well, but if if that's the case, Paul and 2447 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,519 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I disagree, but if they were loaded, 2448 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,759 Speaker 1: then Kansas City made a big mistake by taking Castle 2449 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,679 Speaker 1: because they should have said he's not that good. 2450 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:35,960 Speaker 3: Well they did make a big mistake. Yeah, but they 2451 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 3: didn't give anything up for him. I didn't matter. But 2452 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,720 Speaker 3: now he Castle got. He went to Kansas City, he 2453 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 3: went to the Pro Bowl, he took him to the playoffs, 2454 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:45,960 Speaker 3: and yeah, he was fine. 2455 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,639 Speaker 7: He's athletic, he looks fine, he's fine. 2456 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,920 Speaker 3: There's plenty of guys like that right now that people 2457 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,520 Speaker 3: are going gaga over, like Jake Browning. 2458 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,200 Speaker 1: Robin san Diego via Connecticut. A few emailers of expressed 2459 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,519 Speaker 1: significant a role this show, as with keeping them engaged. 2460 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 1: I want to echo that. But add to the accolades, 2461 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:10,320 Speaker 1: you also play a role to the greater New Englandsporah. 2462 01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 3: The I a s alex. 2463 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:16,200 Speaker 8: I'm taking out. 2464 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,120 Speaker 5: It's probably similar to disposition. 2465 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:18,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. 2466 01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:19,519 Speaker 5: I'm just using context. 2467 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2468 01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,400 Speaker 1: With comments about traffic on Route one and Rhode Island 2469 01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:27,160 Speaker 1: Island beaches, thank you for the cultural impact. Please forward 2470 01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 1: to mister craft over at Patriot Place. 2471 01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,599 Speaker 7: People who have spread from their homeland. 2472 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:40,920 Speaker 3: Evan has returned, has. 2473 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:54,680 Speaker 7: Has returned. All right, all right, all right, I love 2474 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:55,440 Speaker 7: them Redheads. 2475 01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,599 Speaker 4: We got four players. He just took it to another place. 2476 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,840 Speaker 7: I was gonna was Connor mcdermim's Connor Redheads. So was 2477 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:03,639 Speaker 7: he out there practice? 2478 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,439 Speaker 4: No, No, So four guys missing from practice, duce. I 2479 01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 4: want you to put on a brave face here, and 2480 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 4: I don't. 2481 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 3: Want to speaking of this, I assume you're talking Peppers. 2482 01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 3: Did you see the footage of him going down the 2483 01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:18,240 Speaker 3: stairs after the game? 2484 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:18,360 Speaker 13: No? 2485 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,120 Speaker 1: No, oh god, one of. 2486 01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,200 Speaker 3: The one of the one of the the foxtogs caught 2487 01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,559 Speaker 3: a shot of him. He needed all kinds of help, Yeah, 2488 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 3: to get down the stairs. So evidently whatever happened to 2489 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,599 Speaker 3: him on that last play that Edwards layer run. 2490 01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,000 Speaker 7: Looked like he was like holding the back of his knee. 2491 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2492 01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 4: I think that might have been significant, because well he 2493 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 4: wouldn't He didn't want to talk after the game either. 2494 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,640 Speaker 4: He was pretty pissed. So maybe it was injury that 2495 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 4: kind of thing. Yeah, So I know, Jabriel Peppers, Remondre Stephenson, 2496 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:53,559 Speaker 4: Connor McDermott or Hunter Henry Patriots practice. So Hunter Henry 2497 01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,479 Speaker 4: had the knee McDermott has is in concussion protocol I 2498 01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 4: assume I said head because that's what the team says. 2499 01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:02,080 Speaker 4: For now, remonder Stephens an ankle, and we do not 2500 01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:05,640 Speaker 4: know on Jabriel Pepper. You can be all right. 2501 01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 7: I was worried about I'm not watching the game. 2502 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:15,160 Speaker 4: Well, you have to forget it. And Trent Brown decided 2503 01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:18,000 Speaker 4: to show up today, so he's participating. Very nice of 2504 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,200 Speaker 4: him to need him. 2505 01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,680 Speaker 1: Uh Chili out there today. 2506 01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 4: Little chili, little chili dropping full pads, full pads, full pads. Wednesdays, 2507 01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,240 Speaker 4: we had a nice, nice debate that was That was 2508 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:35,439 Speaker 4: the media media debate, Media debate. And we're doing top 2509 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:39,680 Speaker 4: fives at prospective positions of the Bill Belichick era, and 2510 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,559 Speaker 4: there was some real heated debate about the top five 2511 01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,640 Speaker 4: cornerbacks corner. 2512 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 3: Of the bill. 2513 01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,120 Speaker 4: So I'll give you my so, I'll give you my 2514 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,080 Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore and then we can work on the fifth 2515 01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:57,360 Speaker 4: one is really the one that so ty Law Stefan 2516 01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 4: Gilmour Drell reeves. 2517 01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,760 Speaker 3: I have a different three, but go ahead, and who is. 2518 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:03,240 Speaker 4: The fourth one? 2519 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 9: Now? 2520 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm Samuel No So some in my mind, some people 2521 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:10,679 Speaker 3: I'm missing. 2522 01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 4: I keep to leave. Sorry, that was the one I 2523 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:18,599 Speaker 4: was missing. And then the fifth one I immediately said 2524 01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:20,720 Speaker 4: Sante Samuel, and. 2525 01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,200 Speaker 3: They don't like that. Some people people hold the drop 2526 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,400 Speaker 3: had actually went off his hand, but that's okay. 2527 01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones, some people had Malcolm Butler, some people had 2528 01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 4: just really those two, I guess, so the other four 2529 01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:39,320 Speaker 4: were locks. To me, that's the Matt Rushmore, Yes, and 2530 01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,160 Speaker 4: there was wow, I'd put. 2531 01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,960 Speaker 3: I think I might put Jonathan Jones over to Oh 2532 01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:46,479 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 2533 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:47,720 Speaker 4: But that's just me. 2534 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,680 Speaker 7: It's hard because to Leave and Breath were such a 2535 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:54,800 Speaker 7: small sample size for the Patriots, and it's like that's 2536 01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,120 Speaker 7: a career achievement to compare what and even like compared 2537 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,360 Speaker 7: to what a Sante did over you know, lific, terrific 2538 01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,680 Speaker 7: play for several seasons, several seasons for the Patriots, I 2539 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 7: mean Tylaw incomparable, and I mean and gil Gilmore like 2540 01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,160 Speaker 7: after that, it's kind of like, yeah, we had some 2541 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:11,960 Speaker 7: mercenaries who were good here for a year, But I 2542 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,560 Speaker 7: don't really like consider a keep to leave on the 2543 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,560 Speaker 7: Patriots Mount Rushmore of cornerbacks, I don't know. 2544 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,879 Speaker 1: I like that though, I like the top five positions 2545 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 1: early on, you know, early two thousands that we're forgetting 2546 01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:27,200 Speaker 1: about the corners school otis Smith, Otis Smith. 2547 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, not not anybody really really good. I mean he 2548 01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:30,080 Speaker 3: had some. 2549 01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:31,639 Speaker 1: Otis Smith place. 2550 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I brought him up. But both teams, 2551 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,640 Speaker 4: I would say that I put a Keep to Leave 2552 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:40,320 Speaker 4: there simply because when he got here, it flipped a 2553 01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,560 Speaker 4: switch for that defense. They were much better defense after 2554 01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:44,160 Speaker 4: the fact that. 2555 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,000 Speaker 3: They were so corner starved when he got here. Evans 2556 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:47,960 Speaker 3: right about Yeah, I. 2557 01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,360 Speaker 4: Mean I remember that was what thirteen right, and if 2558 01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 4: my memory twelve twelve and uh, we actually was at 2559 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 4: the game, his first game as a Patriot, and I 2560 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,920 Speaker 4: remember the whole car ride. I was like, they got 2561 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:00,680 Speaker 4: to keep to leave, they got him, they got him, 2562 01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,480 Speaker 4: and then he had to pick six I think in 2563 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,640 Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, very first game. And then Gronk broke 2564 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:05,920 Speaker 4: his forearm at the end of the game. 2565 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:10,280 Speaker 1: Does anyone remember what Bill Belichick's last public comment about 2566 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:11,000 Speaker 1: to Keep to Leave? 2567 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, but Wes Welker is the dirty has played ever seen? 2568 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:13,480 Speaker 10: Right? 2569 01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:14,760 Speaker 3: How do you know that was the last one. 2570 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard him say anything about it. 2571 01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,800 Speaker 4: Well, apparently according to Keep to Leave that Bill Belichi, 2572 01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,200 Speaker 4: I tried to get him to come. 2573 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 3: Back cover tight ends. Yeah, I remember that story. I 2574 01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,640 Speaker 3: didn't stop her role. I think he talked about that 2575 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 3: while he was in the booth. Yeah, yeah, when he 2576 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,200 Speaker 3: was doing games, he was funny. 2577 01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 7: I always think of that moment though. Evan is like 2578 01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,000 Speaker 7: a kind of an you know, as a defense guy 2579 01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,840 Speaker 7: like that where it all changed. It just felt like 2580 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,600 Speaker 7: we've got to get a guy who can play man 2581 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 7: and man up against it. 2582 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,320 Speaker 3: He was good. I just think that he was completely unreliable, 2583 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:46,760 Speaker 3: and yeah he was. He didn't post a lot when 2584 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,920 Speaker 3: they needed a most he he kind of wasn't there. 2585 01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,160 Speaker 7: And then, uh, that's that's ad per. 2586 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 4: We also were doing middle linebackers, and I'm. 2587 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,960 Speaker 7: Going to throw all of us middle linebackers, all of us. 2588 01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:58,920 Speaker 7: They're not the mic though not the mic. 2589 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 4: So we we he had high tower, We had Bruski obviously, 2590 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,480 Speaker 4: and like a bunch of terrible reporters just sclossed right 2591 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,200 Speaker 4: over girod Mayo and did not mention him in the 2592 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:09,760 Speaker 4: top five. 2593 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,920 Speaker 3: So we we ted Johnson in him. We we were 2594 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,600 Speaker 3: debating because Ted Johnson's better than those guys, better than 2595 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,880 Speaker 3: he's better than he was a better middle linebacker. I'm 2596 01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:23,120 Speaker 3: not talking about versatility, rushing the passer or all those things. 2597 01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,000 Speaker 3: He's a better player than Mayo by a lot. 2598 01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:29,000 Speaker 1: Well you're just saying the typical old school middle linebacker. 2599 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,960 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but the game evolved, but that's what they played. 2600 01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was better at that position backer. 2601 01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,480 Speaker 1: See, I think I think Mayo had I think Mayo was. 2602 01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,360 Speaker 3: A better overall stat compiler. 2603 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,280 Speaker 1: I I he was pile jumper. 2604 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,160 Speaker 3: He thinks, No, that was Bruski was the. 2605 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 7: Pile jump I I I don't have a lot of love. 2606 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 3: I don't. 2607 01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:48,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2608 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:50,960 Speaker 7: I'm gonna stop. 2609 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could say it, say it, no, I said it. 2610 01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 7: No, I just I don't think. Really Mayo made a 2611 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,440 Speaker 7: lot of impact plays in his career. He was a 2612 01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,360 Speaker 7: good smart player that was you know, in position and 2613 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:01,200 Speaker 7: made a lot of times. But you know, when you 2614 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,800 Speaker 7: need an interception there in the Super Bowl, he was 2615 01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:05,240 Speaker 7: right by his ear and you know he doesn't get 2616 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,040 Speaker 7: around for it. Like, I don't know what was his 2617 01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,000 Speaker 7: most famous play as a Patriot. 2618 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:14,320 Speaker 3: When he when he hit the guy in Washington to 2619 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,000 Speaker 3: get a feel of getting a pick against me. But 2620 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,760 Speaker 3: I want to say he's grossman. 2621 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I probably, I just I just 2622 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:26,200 Speaker 4: was never like he's amazing, like like amazing one in 2623 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,600 Speaker 4: my mind is and like to me, Tower was amazing. 2624 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,040 Speaker 7: I feel like you got to make plays in big 2625 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:31,840 Speaker 7: moments and like you talk about High Tower, you talk 2626 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,080 Speaker 7: about Bruskie, we can probably all rattle off five to 2627 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,040 Speaker 7: ten plays that they eat here. 2628 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 3: Like High Tower, wasn't there a game to game but 2629 01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:40,840 Speaker 3: when he had to be, we. 2630 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,280 Speaker 5: Probably don't have at least two super Bowls without. 2631 01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know that's that's a great I 2632 01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 3: like it that one right right under his Bondom Tower 2633 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,280 Speaker 3: would be he would be my one, me too, because 2634 01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:54,880 Speaker 3: he could do it all. 2635 01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,280 Speaker 7: But I understand your point about Teddy. 2636 01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,760 Speaker 4: Eddy Johnson was a really good It was a really 2637 01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,000 Speaker 4: good yeah, but was all over though. 2638 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,280 Speaker 1: He was no I know that probably that makes should 2639 01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:06,680 Speaker 1: be in the conversation. 2640 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,760 Speaker 3: Was outside, but he played inside for half of one 2641 01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:16,280 Speaker 3: year because he had the GM signed Manty Beasel and 2642 01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 3: Chad Brown, thinking they would be okay. 2643 01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 4: You know, I we also we mentioned some like guys. 2644 01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,480 Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big Roman Fighter fan from back 2645 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:23,920 Speaker 4: in the day. 2646 01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 3: I was thinking for the whole time I wanted to 2647 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 3: see how many when we got to fight. 2648 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,000 Speaker 1: And I know it's a big what if, But if 2649 01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 1: Covid hadn't heard his hip, he might have been what 2650 01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:33,360 Speaker 1: about Colins? 2651 01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:35,640 Speaker 7: Anybody talking Collins? He played? 2652 01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of guys brought up Collins, and I 2653 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,760 Speaker 4: just I'm not a big Collins. 2654 01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 3: Thinking Todd Collins, not that farn what you were thinking about. 2655 01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not a big Jamie Collins guy. 2656 01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 1: Person a lot. 2657 01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:49,560 Speaker 7: I mean, he's I mean, he's just seems like he 2658 01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 7: later people. 2659 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 4: I know, yeah, but he's not like an all time 2660 01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:57,840 Speaker 4: great Patriots Now Paul Paul perfect described him what last 2661 01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,720 Speaker 4: show perfectly what I figure you said exactly. 2662 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,400 Speaker 7: But sometimes he'd make a big play, and I forget. 2663 01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,840 Speaker 3: Collins was ridiculously flash play. 2664 01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,080 Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that the Patriots during the 2665 01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,680 Speaker 1: Belichick era never had a linebacker at any point in 2666 01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:16,840 Speaker 1: time who was the best player on defense on the 2667 01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,760 Speaker 1: team like William Some teams. 2668 01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:22,280 Speaker 4: Have depends if you're if you're not talking about edge 2669 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,800 Speaker 4: guys like I I you know, I think those are 2670 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:25,720 Speaker 4: two different positions. 2671 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 3: Like you could make an argument from mc guinness and 2672 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,480 Speaker 3: vrabel like yeah, like. 2673 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,400 Speaker 7: Late nineties was McGinnis, like, I mean he was kind 2674 01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 7: of the man, wasn't he? That was really not a 2675 01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:35,960 Speaker 7: lot around him. 2676 01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,160 Speaker 3: I mean, but that's that was to your point, the 2677 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 3: strength of those defenses is like that just was no 2678 01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:42,040 Speaker 3: weak link. 2679 01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like a lot of teams, like you know, 2680 01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,920 Speaker 1: Jack Lambert, I'm talking back in the day, you know, 2681 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 1: Willie Lanier, these middle linebacker guys, you know, Zach Thomas 2682 01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,560 Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins. But I mean, I think back 2683 01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:00,480 Speaker 1: then they might have considered him there best defense. 2684 02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,400 Speaker 3: I would love to play a game where Fred rattles 2685 02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,880 Speaker 3: off the names of random players from the past and 2686 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,000 Speaker 3: I have to pick whether or not I haven't thought 2687 02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:11,520 Speaker 3: they were good or overrated. I'll bet you I could 2688 02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,480 Speaker 3: be within the eighty sevents. 2689 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:17,520 Speaker 4: You tell me that that you talk about Bruski jumping 2690 02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:18,480 Speaker 4: on the piles. 2691 02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:22,560 Speaker 3: Zach Thomas, I absolutely agree overrated. 2692 02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:25,480 Speaker 4: Zach Thomas eight yards down the field made a tackle. 2693 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Whoa London London Fletcher. No one else could tackling machine. 2694 02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:30,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2695 02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:34,160 Speaker 3: Quote, that's like what you think. 2696 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,640 Speaker 1: It means, Zach said about pursuit. 2697 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, ray Lewis is an all time ray Lewis, 2698 02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 4: different different animals. Zach Thomas is you know, good for 2699 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,520 Speaker 4: you that you're you got the gold jacket. Zach Thomas please. 2700 02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:50,680 Speaker 1: All right, well listen, that's gonna be it for this 2701 02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:56,880 Speaker 1: overrated Patriots Unfiltered. John Rook in the playbook is standing by. 2702 02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:59,200 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with picks. 2703 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:01,480 Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you guys the picks. 2704 02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Fred, just letting you know, I don't want I don't 2705 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:04,200 Speaker 1: want to tell people that. 2706 02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:07,000 Speaker 3: I want everybody to know right here that I already 2707 02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,080 Speaker 3: made my picks, all right. I don't want to be 2708 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:10,000 Speaker 3: accused of cheating. 2709 02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, John Ruck's next. We'll see you then. 2710 02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, 2711 02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,800 Speaker 2: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate 2712 02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:24,040 Speaker 2: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us 2713 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,160 Speaker 2: high in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us. 2714 02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to check Patriots dot com for more news 2715 02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:31,800 Speaker 2: and more podcasts. 2716 02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:39,760 Speaker 1: The world's abging podcast