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Speaker 2: are you people want a bag with? Good morning, Sweet world,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, June thirtieth, but honestly, let's just call it

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Speaker 2: July first, because we're here today to celebrate Canada Day.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jays Skeeton alongside me wearing his red and white

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, it's great to be here on July first.

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Speaker 2: We got the Bearded one. Are honorable Canadian lumberjack Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 3: Hey oh hey, oh.

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Speaker 2: Got the international Man of Mystery taking it to the

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Speaker 4: Lee ellis friend.

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Speaker 2: Making the magic happen while sipping on a Caesar because

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Speaker 2: it's before eleven am, JD.

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Speaker 4: How's I got?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hooser, we got a special guest today, guys. He's

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Speaker 2: a staff writer for the Athletic covering the Toronto Raptors.

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Speaker 2: He reps the five to one nine. He's a good

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Speaker 2: old Canadian boy. It's Blake Murphy. What's up, Blake?

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Guys, how are Y good Man?

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Speaker 2: Very excited to have you on here, because we've got

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Speaker 2: something pretty fun in store for today's podcast. Tomorrow, July first,

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Speaker 2: it is Canada Day, which is a holiday to celebrate

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Speaker 2: out to Blake late last week. We had a little

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Speaker 2: it could be pretty fun to look at the top

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Speaker 2: ten moments in Canadian basketball history. And here's the fun

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Speaker 2: little twist to this, Blake, you actually wrote this bad

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Speaker 2: Boy up. The actual article will drop tomorrow, right on

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Speaker 2: July first, on the Athletics.

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Speaker 5: That correct, Yet when you wake up July first, it'll

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Speaker 2: Okay. I love that. So this we can look at

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Speaker 2: this as a podcast exclusive. Is that Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: the boys here, the young Bars, Tass, TK, Lee, JD.

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Speaker 2: You guys have no idea what the list actually is,

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Speaker 2: introduce each moment here on the top ten moments in

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Speaker 2: Is there anything we need to know in advance, Blake

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Speaker 6: The only thing I'll say is that when we brainstormed

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Speaker 6: other Canadian Canadian media voices made sure I didn't miss anything.

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Speaker 6: What I did is, you know, we could have ran

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Speaker 5: But it's not.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's not like a one through fifty ranking

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Speaker 2: It's the top ten moments in Canadian basketball history. At

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Speaker 6: He did get bonus points for Skeetz. You reminded me

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Speaker 2: Was James N. Smith a fake Canadian? That's my question, Blake, because,

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Speaker 2: like you said, the game, it's invented in the States.

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Speaker 7: No, he's the guy who just invented basketball, and he

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Speaker 2: right spot here, Blake, you got you got to started

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Speaker 8: you know he's very associated with Kansas as well. I

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Speaker 3: Was a fake Canadian.

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Speaker 8: But you know, like you know, we will take James Naysmith.

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Speaker 2: Look, I want to see his birth certificate. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: We went through this wasn't his James Nasmith's grandson's grandson,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, task he I don't yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Next one, number nine on our list, Anthony Bennett and

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Speaker 1: Michael Maulder, out of nowhere did Canada invent the X

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Speaker 5: I've won nine legend, Michael Malder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, this one is tough though, because

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Speaker 2: of the names, like you said, especially the Anthony Bennett.

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Speaker 7: Like not really, I mean Kwami was nowhere near that BADMI.

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Speaker 5: Here, I admit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, you wrote the title was Blake the

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Speaker 6: We don't know what he's gonna be like at seventeen,

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Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, yeah we do. We have an update

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's still license. Yeah, he's still a ways away

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, task the question with this one, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try and stay away from insulting these

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Speaker 1: And I know, I speaking from our experience, you know,

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Speaker 1: Is Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett or Tristan Thompson a basketball player?

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Speaker 4: I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: I doubt all three would be in that category. Not

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're incredible, you know at their sports. I think

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Speaker 6: I'll also add, no one is going to care about

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Speaker 2: Oh, still believed in Bennett. But yeah, you had the

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Speaker 2: knee injury. You're absolutely right. I was just going to say,

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Speaker 2: Let's go get in the corner, fight it out all.

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Speaker 1: Right during during if it was a pandemic, we would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Blake, you played foot hockey growing up in Ontario?

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Speaker 3: Yes or no?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah, every recess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and now now what did you do?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 2: I assill you played with sort of either that orange

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, we went tennis ball and the goalie equipment

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Speaker 6: was just like you took your wind breaker off and

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Blake. This is what I've been

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Speaker 2: And when it says I'm crazy, what do you mean

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what we did.

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Speaker 4: Your schools were soft. You need you need a jacket,

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, all right, Number eight on our list here the

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Speaker 2: Toronto Raptors first home game nineteen ninety five. You already

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: It's either this or the expansion Raptors upsetting the seventy

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Speaker 6: the Raptors won their first home game. They also they

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Speaker 6: That you won their first game one, and they're like,

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Speaker 3: We're never winning a game one ever again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Alvin robertson first basket and a thirty point game.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, yeah, this is always a fun game.

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Speaker 2: Let's throw this at Test, Let's throw this at everybody.

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Speaker 2: So let's see if we can get to all ten

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Speaker 2: because I think that's how many Raptors played in the game.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's name that inaugural Raptors team in game one

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Speaker 2: versus the Nets. Let's get to the starting lineup. Task,

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Speaker 5: Who knows?

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Speaker 7: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Well, Let's start start us off with mighty Mouse. Damon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, John John sounds like the house. Alvin

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Speaker 2: Who else we got?

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Speaker 4: So on the way? Who was? Who was the three?

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Speaker 2: He came off the bench, came off the bench, he

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Speaker 2: played keep going, Blake. You can play too unless you

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Speaker 2: just know them all off the top of your dome.

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Speaker 2: I looked at the box score when I was writing. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: sure did, Test, he sure did? I think?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Did he start the three or the four. It's debatable.

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Speaker 3: It's got a great look.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if he actually took the court in

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there.

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Speaker 4: He didn't play five games all off the bench. I

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Speaker 7: Bign was started. Got four was Joon Sally, an original

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Speaker 4: Go here we go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Him and Tracy Murray off the bench. You need three more,

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Speaker 1: three more, three more, one of whom was the second

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Also, once went for fifty points?

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Speaker 2: Did he go for forty?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Forty a CRL. Came off the bench, like Blake said,

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Speaker 2: at sixteen points, good game for him. Two more Trey, ironically,

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Speaker 2: because I know you're a fan of this college team,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy King.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Jimmy seven minutes he didn't score. And one more.

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Speaker 4: William Wait William, yeah fight. He came a little bit later. Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played off the bench in that first game.

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Speaker 2: Didn't a good game. Probably had the worst game actually

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Speaker 6: Are soaking with really disappointed to see that. We Willie

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Speaker 6: Anderson is not one of his nicknames.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe just because I came up with it right

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Speaker 2: So here's my question moving forward in this list, are

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 6: No, they get a dishonorable mention on this one actually

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Speaker 6: which is really hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, like Lee or anybody Lee is there.

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Speaker 2: If you could legit pick one Vancouver Grizzlies moment, I

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Speaker 2: would you pick besides maybe their first game, I guess.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to think he was even

444
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 7: like the you know, known player Brewery. Yeah, I guess, yeah,

445
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 7: I guess. Three d told us a few stories about

446
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 7: living in Vancouver when he played up there, which were

447
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 7: maybe not for the podcast, but number seven on our

448
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 7: list spot talking about the time he played for the

449
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 7: Vancouver Are the uniforms? Maybe that's maybe the best thing.

450
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: Maybe that Big Country Finding Big Country, the documentary that

451
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: they you see.

452
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 5: That, Blake, Yeah, I did. It's great.

453
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 2: That's I love that documentary. It's really well done.

454
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, not a lot from shout out to Derek Martin,

455
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 5: one of the few players to play for both franchises.

456
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: Nice good call. Oh yeah, maybe a Nate Smith Cup

457
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: game would have made it or something like that.

458
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 4: What about what about Benoit? Don't call me ben ben.

459
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Speaker 2: All right? Number seven on our list? Steve Nash wins

460
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: consecutive NBA m vps five and six. This is coming

461
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Speaker 2: in at seventh on the list. Blake.

462
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there are some pretty big national team moments coming

463
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Speaker 6: up on the list, and Nash was involved in some

464
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Speaker 6: of those. So this isn't Nash's only appearance on the list.

465
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Speaker 6: But I think I think what was huge about Nash's

466
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Speaker 6: MVPs is that, you know, Vince Carter obviously got the

467
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 6: country and the city more excited about basketball than they

468
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 6: ever had been. And what Nash did, I think, especially

469
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 6: for the generation of players that followed, was you know,

470
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Speaker 6: that representation that a Canadian can reach the highest levels.

471
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Speaker 4: Of the sport.

472
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Speaker 6: And to this point, you know, there have been some

473
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Speaker 6: some solid Canadians in the NBA, but never anyone who

474
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Speaker 6: was at this level of dominance and of star power

475
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Speaker 6: and really in terms of how he changed the game.

476
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, I know people aren't in retrospect,

477
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 6: aren't fond of his four to five MVP nod over Shack,

478
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 6: but if you go back and look his six oh

479
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 6: seven season when Dirk won the MVP, was like even

480
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 6: better statistically, and maybe he just didn't get the third

481
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 6: in a row because people didn't want to give him

482
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Speaker 6: three in a row. But this one's, you know, this

483
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 6: one's as much about Nash as his packed on the game,

484
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 6: and not just here in Canada, but in the NBA entirely.

485
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 6: And you look at the way a point guard's expected

486
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Speaker 6: to play now and spread the floor with their own

487
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 6: shooting thread and you know his dynamism as a playmaker

488
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 6: and the way the Sun's kind of changed what a

489
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Speaker 6: modern offense was going to look like. Nash's fingerprints all

490
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Speaker 6: over the game at the NBA and national level.

491
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Speaker 2: And he concerns gentlemen. With Nash coming in at seventh,

492
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Speaker 2: is it too low for ant of you guys.

493
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Speaker 8: I mean, I was expecting Steve Nash's double MVPs to

494
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Speaker 8: be a little bit higher on the list. He's one

495
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Speaker 8: of only two Canadians to have been an All Star,

496
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Speaker 8: so I thought that alone would put him in the

497
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Speaker 8: top five. My only criticism about Steve Nash has always

498
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Speaker 8: been that he's a little bit too Canadian. If you

499
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Speaker 8: would have shot more like a good American, he could

500
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Speaker 8: have been Steph Curry ten years earlier. But no, he

501
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 8: wants to involve everybody and be nice and build teamwork

502
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Speaker 8: in chemistry and be a good guy.

503
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Speaker 7: Yeah, nice that he made. It's interesting that you mentioned

504
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 7: about the six zero seven Blake because I actually agree

505
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 7: with you. I think that was his better, his best

506
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 7: season when he was most dominant. But I think because

507
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 7: he'd won two in a row, people were like, there's

508
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 7: no way we're giving this little white Guy three MVPs.

509
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 7: It just it just cannot happen because it just you know,

510
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Speaker 7: it's one of those things. It's the narrative, and voter

511
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 7: for Tea comes in as well. But yeah, when you

512
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Speaker 7: look at that first season where he won it, I mean,

513
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Speaker 7: you know, purely from a number of standpoint fifteen points

514
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 7: and eleven assists a game, I mean that there tiny

515
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Speaker 7: numbers for an MVP of the league. You know, he

516
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Speaker 7: improved again in that second season, but that third one

517
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 7: I thought was great. But you know, it's also interesting

518
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Speaker 7: just how he ended up in Phoenix. I mean, he

519
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 7: was great in Dallas, but Mark Cuban thought he was,

520
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 7: you know, his back was going to play up and

521
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 7: not be an effective player for the rest of his career,

522
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Speaker 7: so we didn't want to pay him. And he goes

523
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Speaker 7: out there and you know, leads the Suns back to

524
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Speaker 7: the playoff wins the MVPs, and Mark Cuban has talked

525
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Speaker 7: about how he regretted that now, but based on the

526
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Speaker 7: information they had at the time, they were like, we

527
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Speaker 7: just don't think his back's going to hold up.

528
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Speaker 4: So sad, so sad.

529
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Speaker 1: It is true, how crazy it is those numbers when

530
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Speaker 1: he got to six seven a point guard shooting fifty

531
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Speaker 1: three percent from the floor, and as Blake said.

532
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Speaker 4: They're leading the league in effective field.

533
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Speaker 1: Goal percentage for a point guard. But it's true what

534
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Speaker 1: Trey said, and I know that's definitely one of Steve

535
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Speaker 1: Nash's regrets is that he wish he had a little

536
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: bit more Curry in him, especially being as accurate a

537
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: shooter as he was. He never got to twenty points

538
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: per game because he's just too nice a guy. And

539
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: maybe if he took over a little bit more, you know,

540
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Speaker 1: who knows. I'm not going to, let's not retrospect the

541
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Phoenix Sun's days. But yeah, I know that's if there's

542
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Speaker 1: any regret having listened to Steve Nash the last few years,

543
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: it's definitely not being a little bit more stuff like

544
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: to boost those numbers and take some pressure off his guys.

545
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, the numbers are ridiculous when you look back.

546
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Speaker 1: He can win an MVP or two.

547
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: He earned it.

548
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: I have to point out here in this article a

549
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: dishonorable mention Lake Rights that you, Blake, did not win

550
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: MVP when your team defeated the No Dunks Crew in

551
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: the semi final on the way to a Raptors Republic

552
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: Tournament championship on the Air Canada Center practice court back

553
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. You blew my mind. I can't wait

554
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: for people to read this article because you had like

555
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: a there's a link to a photo of us, the guys,

556
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: the Basketball Jones team at the time, all playing in

557
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: this tournament. Do you remember this league?

558
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 7: Yes?

559
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: I do.

560
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 7: I don't remember how it ended though, like did we

561
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 7: make the final?

562
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: Then we lost in the semifinals to Blake's team. Blake,

563
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: you guys, you got revenge on revenge on us, right

564
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, because we beat you in like

565
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: the group play or something like that.

566
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

567
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, the four of you guys and my friend Trevor.

568
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Trevor and I were both playing, and like

569
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 6: because I was organizing, I wasn't really I didn't know

570
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 6: if I was even gonna play. And then like there

571
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 6: were two teams that needed a fifth guy, So Trevor

572
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 6: played with you guys and I played with the I

573
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 6: coasted as the fifth man and the eventual champions.

574
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Speaker 4: Oh Trevor Smith. Trevor Smith, the ringer. He threw our team.

575
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good. Trey Kirby I remember it. It

576
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: was great in the group stage too. I think you

577
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: had a game winner in one of the games TK

578
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: not surprising. Yeah, classic classic if you're a Canadian, that

579
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Speaker 2: would be number four three on this list.

580
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Speaker 5: Excellent.

581
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Speaker 8: But I guess since Nash was here, that means we

582
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 8: aren't going to be getting specific Steve Nash moments in

583
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Speaker 8: the future. For me, I would add twenty ten when

584
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 8: he has basically one eye and eliminates the Spurs by

585
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 8: going crazy in the fourth quarter, just bleeding everywhere.

586
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: Iconic moment.

587
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

588
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 6: I also had as an honorable mention one of my

589
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 6: favorite Raptors games I've ever been at when he got

590
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 6: so two thousand and seven January two thousand and seven.

591
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 6: They gave him the Lionel Connacker like Canadian Athlete of

592
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 6: the Year award before the game, and he had like

593
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 6: a pretty mediocre game and then completely took over in

594
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter and the entire Canada Center crowd was

595
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: cheering for him instead of the Raptors.

596
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: I love, I mean, everybody knows my love for Steve Nash,

597
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: but and like how much impact he had him. I

598
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: love of basketball, but I do love those memorable somewhat

599
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: rare like memorable moments games in playoffs situations or even

600
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: just regular seeing games where like you said, Trey, he

601
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: became sort of more of a Steph Curry like guy

602
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: where he just shot more and took over games. And

603
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: it's because they were so they were someone so rare though,

604
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: when he went for thirty or more, it was like, oh,

605
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: this is special, this is this is he's actually looking

606
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: for a shot and he's seeking it out here instead

607
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: of always trying to be the setup man. And oh

608
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: I love that when he sort of just like snatched

609
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: a little.

610
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 8: Bit and it just it just felt like, you know,

611
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 8: he was an incredible shooter and finally he's embracing being

612
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 8: the score that he is. I mean, sometimes it was

613
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 8: the team's game plan to kind of make him a

614
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 8: score so they're not hooking everybody else up, which is

615
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 8: kind of strange to think about since it's just completely

616
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 8: opposite of the way that Nash played. But yeah, when

617
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 8: it was takeover mode, that was that was fun times.

618
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: At number six here on the list, Oh a little

619
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Speaker 2: inner National ball miracle on hardwood at University games in

620
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three. This one, I think you're gonna have

621
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: to explain for probably the guys and the listeners out there.

622
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: Blake.

623
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had to do the research on my own

624
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 6: because I was not born in nineteen eighty three. This

625
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 6: was another one where you know, Doug Smith heavily suggested

626
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 6: this one, so I went I went digging in the

627
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 6: CBC archives and found an old interview with Jay Treano

628
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 6: when he was the coach of the Raptors, talking about this.

629
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: So this was again the university game, so maybe not

630
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 6: quite on the level of other international competitions, but you

631
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: look at this US roster and not only did they

632
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: have Ed Pinkney, who we just mentioned earlier, Charles Barkley,

633
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 6: Karl Malone, Kevin Willis, Johnny Dawkins who at one point

634
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 6: was the all time leading scorer at Duke. So a

635
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 6: loaded US team that went five to zero in the

636
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 6: group stage with an average margin of victory of almost

637
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 6: sixty points per game. In the semifinals in Edmonton, Canada

638
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 6: upsets them eighty five seventy seven, Jack Donahue coaching that

639
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: Canadian side that included Jay Triano and Bill Wennington.

640
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: And then to take it one.

641
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 6: Step further, you know, the miracle on hardwood is the

642
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: upset of the US and the semifinals to take it

643
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 6: one step further. Canada then also upset Draws and Patrovich's

644
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: Yugoslavia team in the gold medal game eighty three sixty eight.

645
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 6: So they take home the World University Games title on

646
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 6: home court with two massive upsets in a row.

647
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's amazing to me because even though and

648
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: tasks tell me if I'm wrong, like we're growing up

649
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: basketball fans, I had no idea about this, Like you've

650
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: never you never heard about this in when any sort

651
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: of Canadian basketball moment or even just sports moment, Canadian

652
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: sports moment were being talked about. I didn't know about this,

653
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: did you No?

654
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: The university games, I guess just weren't on the radar,

655
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: just just like college basketball in Canada isn't necessarily on

656
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: the radar up there. I like Blake, I was in

657
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: reduced to this sort of through Jay Triano because he was,

658
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, part of the Canadian coaching circuit and got

659
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: to the NBA, and I just knew he was a fireballer,

660
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: and so I heard about that. You know, he played

661
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: along with with Paul Jones, I do believe, And uh, yeah,

662
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Speaker 1: he was, he was a guard. Was he was he

663
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Speaker 1: Steph Curry before Steph Curry, I mean, was he was?

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Speaker 4: He was a six footer. But he liked to let

665
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Speaker 4: it fly.

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Speaker 1: If I I'm not sure if he went through the

667
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: box scores there, Blake, but I think I think he

668
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: liked to let it let it rip.

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Speaker 5: I could not find box scores.

670
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Speaker 6: But yes, that's the impression I have of Treanto as

671
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: a player was he did not have the same humility

672
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 6: that Steve Nash did.

673
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Speaker 5: When I came to a shot selection, Well.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, this, is there even footage of

675
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: this stuff, Blake, do you know? No?

676
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Speaker 6: I had a lot of trouble, and you know there's

677
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: a there are some clips on YouTube that are like

678
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 6: grainy and in and not in English. I ended up,

679
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 6: you know, I tried to find clips of all of

680
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 6: these events to include in the article. In this one,

681
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 6: I just ended up including a TVO interview with Jay

682
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 6: Triano where he goes into it a little bit. It

683
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: was really hard to find details, so I again I

684
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: relied on Doug and some old CBC archival articles for

685
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 6: this one. But you know, it's a there are some

686
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 6: other Canadian youth moments here too. Like I was, it

687
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: was kind of a coin toss for me between this

688
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: and when the Canada U nineteens, led by R. J.

689
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 6: Barrett won their first FEEBA gold medal in twenty seventeen.

690
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 6: I remember being at Summer League and like Brady Heslip

691
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: coming up and watching it over my shoulder in the semifinals,

692
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: I think, and then like at the Raptors practice facility,

693
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 6: like Dwayne Casey asking about what was happening, so that

694
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: one was close. But I think the double upset here,

695
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 6: even if we can't actually see it. Hopefully, you know,

696
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: hopefully there's some CBC or Basketball Dot Ca archive footage

697
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: that they can send our way after.

698
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 7: Hearing this, Yeah, we know if the referees in those

699
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: games were neutral, Love.

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00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Blake, how dare you?

701
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: How dare you?

702
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: Sir?

703
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

704
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: Look, I mean if you they won these games by

705
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: eight and fifteen, so I don't know that, you know,

706
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 6: maybe the US game, but it sounds like they earned

707
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 6: that Yugoslavia win, Blake.

708
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 8: I've heard some of the players on the United States

709
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 8: team blame this loss on a Canadian operative coming into

710
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 8: the locker room and telling them that James Nasmith is

711
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: Canadian and not American really put them out.

712
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: Do you know if that's true?

713
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't confirm it, but that's long been the

714
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: conspiracy theory. If you go on if you go really

715
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: really deep on NBA Reddin or the real GM message boards,

716
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: you can find those.

717
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Speaker 2: Trey, don't We have like some weird bet going that

718
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: we made like ten years ago that team Canada would

719
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: eventually beat like whatever version of the Dream Team America

720
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: had going in an international game. I swear to god,

721
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: we like I was like twenty twenty eight man a

722
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: bet or something like we have twenty dollars in the

723
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: future riding on a game.

724
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Speaker 8: We've got a lot of bets centered around Canadian basketball

725
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 8: that don't pay off for two to six years, no

726
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 8: doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, number five, counting down the

748
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: top ten moments in Canadian basketball history. Here it is

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Speaker 2: Vince Carter wins the NBA Slam Dunk Contest in two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Blake.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And this one's really, you know, the vote for

752
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 6: all of the Carter effect. And we talked a lot

753
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 6: about it and talking about Bennett and Wiggins and Tristan

754
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 6: Thompson and the impact that Vince Carter had there. And

755
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: I think, you know, the Slam Dunk Contest win is

756
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 6: the thing that best captures everything Carter meant, not just

757
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 6: to the Raptors but to the league at that time.

758
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: Not only is it, you know, this phenomenal dunk contest

759
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 6: performance that you can pick apart for what was the

760
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 6: best dunk or has anyone you know, did Zach Lavine

761
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 6: and Aaron Gordon ever ever match it? Or what the

762
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 6: best fan reaction is there There's no end to the

763
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 6: conversation enjoyment you can get from the dunk contest. And

764
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 6: you know, even if the the Weiss dunk is a

765
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: little more prominent outside of the NBA circles, this is

766
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 6: kind of the moment where Carter's star was at its

767
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 6: highest and because Vince was at this point, you know,

768
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 6: there was no cooler player than Vince Carter. At this point,

769
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: there was no more musty player. And that meant that

770
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: the Raptors were one of these on the rise teams

771
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: in the NBA. And for a team that had been

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00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 6: you know, gone through a tough first couple of years,

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00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 6: and it kind of settled into maybe being an afterthought

774
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 6: in the league. This was so important to the to

775
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 6: the long term health of the Raptors, and I think

776
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 6: to you know, the passion that Canadian and Toronto fans

777
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: started to have for for not just Carter and the team,

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Speaker 6: but for basketball in general.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite dunk Blake from the dunk.

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Speaker 6: I think the reverse the reverse windmill is it's just

781
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 6: so smooth and he's up so high. I know, the

782
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 6: between the lungs, the between the legs one is maybe

783
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: more iconic, but the reverse windmill to me is, you know,

784
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 6: it's it's the most effortless for him and kind of

785
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 6: stands to me as the most incredible athletic achievement of

786
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 6: all those dunts.

787
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is for a lot of people. It's one

788
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: of those moments in NBA history where you sort of

789
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: remember where you were watching it because it was that

790
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: iconic and him rocking the Toronto on the on the

791
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: purple jersey there on his chest. Yeah, it's I've said

792
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: it many times before in this podcast that it's like

793
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: I used to watch the Dunk Contest with all of

794
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: my buddies every year. It was like all start weekend.

795
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: I just loved, we loved it. And this was the

796
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: year I was in Australia, so I couldn't watch it

797
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: with them, And of course it's the greatest dunk contest

798
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: of all time, even though we had watched all the

799
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: crappier ones before that. And then I always forget too

800
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: that the dunk contest got so bad that they got

801
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: rid of it, and this is like, you know, it

802
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: coming back and Vince Carter just resurrecting it from from death.

803
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, this happened.

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00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 8: The purple jerseys skeets, but they weren't just purple. We're

805
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 8: talking black back jerseys as well. Blake the two tone jerseys.

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 8: For me, that's my favorite Raptors jersey that has existed period.

807
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 6: Okay, it's definitely not my favorite. I do like them,

808
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 6: but I've never been able to tell whether I actually

809
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 6: like them or it's just like this was my introt.

810
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: Like the Vince Dunk Contest was the first time I

811
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 6: remember like, it's the first basketball thing I can remember enjoying.

812
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 6: Because I grew up as like a strictly hockey like

813
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 6: twelve month a year, playing typical small town Ontario kid,

814
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 6: so this was like For me, this is my first

815
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 6: introduction to the Raptors and the years that followed that

816
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: was their jersey. So I can never tell if I

817
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 6: actually liked the jersey or it's just like I feel

818
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 6: nostalgic for that jersey, the way some people feel about

819
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 6: the original jersey.

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's something which has just been banned.

821
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: It seems like from NBA jersey circles, the one color

822
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: on the front, the one color on the back, it's

823
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: just nobody really appreciated.

824
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: Nobody thinks it's cool.

825
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: Right.

826
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: There's been a few of them in the last twenty years,

827
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: but not many. I'm partial to them, and I'm exactly

828
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: with you, Blake. I can't tell if it's nostalgia or not,

829
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: but just a full on embrace of the purple, I

830
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: think is what I really liked. People were making fun

831
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: of the Barney Dino, so they went away from that.

832
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: It's weird to think that Vince Carter only wore the

833
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: Barney Dino for one year, but then they just went

834
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: full on purple, right in your face, and we're totally

835
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I like that boldness about that jersey,

836
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: even though I guess it's black on the back.

837
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm with Trey, I mean they, I'm with them. Did

839
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: they How many years did those last?

840
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 7: They were going for three or four years at least,

841
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 7: I think even maybe even longer. I'm pretty sure Vince

842
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 7: was still playing in them when he left.

843
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 4: About that.

844
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 7: About that, yeah, yeah, but that that whole dunk contest, yeah,

845
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 7: I mean everything about Like Vince nailed the dunks straight away.

846
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 7: He got the crowd going, you had the celebration when

847
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 7: he did the it's over as well into the camera.

848
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 7: Like everything about him was just perfect on that day,

849
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 7: and it really did make the Raptors. It just vaulted

850
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 7: them into all of a sudden a conversation like, oh, okay,

851
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 7: this seems kind of cool now because they've got a

852
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 7: legit star. I mean, he was compared to Jordan in

853
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 7: you know, a baby Jordan comparison, coming out of North Carolina,

854
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 7: having the hops and everything like that, and then he

855
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 7: goes out there and has a Jordan esque dunk performance

856
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 7: and it was like, man, maybe Vince is the next

857
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 7: coming of Michael Jordan here. So, you know, so much

858
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 7: came together in that one dunk contest that has lived

859
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 7: on forever, and the fact that Vince never went in

860
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: it again was the right decision, even though we kind of,

861
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 7: you know, would have loved him see if he could

862
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 7: still throw down. But yeah, it just it's an incredible

863
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 7: when you think that it's just the dunk contest, but

864
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 7: it had such an impact on basketball in Canada and

865
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 7: for the Raptors.

866
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple other things to add about the dunk contest.

867
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: We've talked about it before, but one he says he

868
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: basically improvised everything, which is just mix it all that

869
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: much cooler. He's like, Okay, I'll just try this dunk.

870
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: I've thought about this dunk or maybe you know, I

871
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: had a dream about it. Let's just give it a go.

872
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: That's amazing, and he basically knocks it out of the

873
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: park on the first attempt. The other part is you

874
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: got Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady going sort of as

875
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: much as you possibly could, going head to head dunk

876
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: for dunk with Vince. Yeah, he's killing it and there's

877
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: really no chance of everybody beating him. But they're like

878
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: dunking their asses off too. If you remember, like there

879
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: are some good dunks from both of those guys to

880
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: make it even a better contest. And then the final

881
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: part is I've always loved it if you go back

882
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: and watch it. Poor Jerry Stackhouse having to follow Vince

883
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: Carter's dunk and him just being like, I just I

884
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: don't know what it is about it, but like the

885
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: place is that the arena is still a buzz after

886
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: what just happened. They're like you can literally just feel

887
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: it still in the air of everybody talking to each

888
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: other like what did he just do? Did he just

889
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: do that?

890
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

891
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: And then Jerry Stackos is up there dunking and like

892
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: throws down like I don't know, I forget what he

893
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: does like a little way many.

894
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the greatest three to sixteen we've ever seen.

895
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 8: Jerry Stackhouse does a worst three sixty. He's like, yeah,

896
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 8: well whatever, okay.

897
00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 7: Yeah.

898
00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: He just.

899
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: On the bench and like looks up at the scoreboard

900
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: to see his score and he's just like, well, am

901
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: I even here? This sucks.

902
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: A couple of years ago when he was coaching, when

903
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 6: Stackhouse was coaching Raptors nine oh five, someone asked him

904
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 6: about what it was like to follow Vincent the dunk contest,

905
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 6: and he eventually like answered the question well, because he's

906
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 6: Stackhouse and he's a great quote. But the look on

907
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 6: his face when the person started asking the question, like

908
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 6: he knew what was coming and just like you can

909
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 6: see him reliving it in that moment.

910
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: All right, you had a couple of honorable mentions too.

911
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: I think it's important to include here when you're talking

912
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: raptors in the Dunk Contest, Terrence Ross winning two of them, right,

913
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: is that fair to technically? I mean he so he

914
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: won the one, and then the next year they changed

915
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: it to that team battle format and his team won,

916
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: and then there was a vote for Dunker of the Night,

917
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: which went to John Wall.

918
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 6: But like, technically, the East won the dunk contest, So

919
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: in my mind, Terrence Ross never.

920
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: Lost, right, Right. And then one of my favorites, Demarto

921
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Rosens underrated Dunk Contest performance in twenty eleven. He had

922
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: some pretty damn good dunks in that contest.

923
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one was a lot of fun.

924
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 6: I actually I wrote a thing for up Rocks about

925
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 6: it a couple of years ago because I happened to

926
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: be in the locker room when Serge Ibaka, who was

927
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: also in that Dunk Contest and damorrow. We're talking trash

928
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 6: back and forth about it. So I was like, hey,

929
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 6: I'll go back and watch it and ask them about it.

930
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 6: And I talked to JaVale McGee as well, who I

931
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 6: think had probably the best performance in that dunk contest,

932
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: but unfortunately it was the Blake Griffin a Kia situation.

933
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: So you know, we know we talked about the fix

934
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: being in earlier for the University Games. Well the fix

935
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 6: seemed to be in in the twenty eleven dunk contest too.

936
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right at number four here on

937
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: our list. The Canadian women clinch an Olympic berth on

938
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Canada Day back in twenty twelve.

939
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this one, you know, the Canadian women's program

940
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 6: has had some higher watermarks than just qualifying for the Olympics,

941
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 6: but the fact that they did this on Canada Day

942
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 6: to punch their Olympic ticket was awesome. They beat Japan

943
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: seventy one sixty three in what was a last chance

944
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: qualifying tournament to grab the twelfth and final birth in

945
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 6: the Olympics. To that point, they hadn't played in the

946
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: they hadn't made the last couple Olympics. You know, for

947
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 6: anyone who doesn't know. The Canadian women's side, especially in

948
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 6: the last eight or nine years, has been outpacing the

949
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 6: men's side in terms of success at the international level.

950
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: They won a couple of FEBA Americas. They're ranked fourth

951
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 6: in the world by FEBA. But this this was kind

952
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 6: of their first real step forward and there was it

953
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 6: was a great moment because there were a couple of

954
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 6: you know, a couple of vets on the team who

955
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 6: had been on the two thousand roster and this was

956
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 6: their chance to get back to a second Olympics, and

957
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: you know, it was clearly the end of their their

958
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: careers with the international team. And you know, Canada. Canada

959
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 6: did fairly well too. They went two and three in

960
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 6: the Olympics and finished seventh overall. You know, a couple

961
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 6: like I said, they've had higher watermarks than this with

962
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 6: the few America's They won the Pan am Games here

963
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 6: in Toronto in twenty fifteen, and then they don't technically

964
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 6: count because they were unofficial World championships. But the Edmonton

965
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 6: grads won four consecutive World championships from nineteen twenty four

966
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 6: to nineteen thirty six. So underrated story history of Canadian

967
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 6: women's basketball.

968
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one thing you wrote sort of in

969
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: the I guess it was maybe in the dishonorable mention

970
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: part of this one that I didn't really put a

971
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: lot of thought into, and maybe I should have. Toronto

972
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have a w NBA team. Canada doesn't have a

973
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: w NBA team, and that is maybe a little shocking.

974
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one that you know, I understand the WNBA's

975
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: stance about expansion, where they've prioritized keeping the league small

976
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: so that they can keep the teams that they have

977
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: healthy and not growing too quickly. But I think if

978
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 6: you look at you know, over the last decade or so,

979
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 6: the participation numbers for youth girls playing basketball in Canada

980
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 6: has risen quicker than I think anything except for soccer.

981
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 5: So that's really encouraging.

982
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 8: You have.

983
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 6: You know, there were four w NBA player, four Canadians

984
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 6: on WNBA rosters at the start of the twenty nineteen season.

985
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 6: There is there are great Canadian presidents at the NCAA

986
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: and Canadian university levels as well. And then, like I said,

987
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: the Canadian women's programs ranks fourth in the world by FOEBA.

988
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 6: So I do think if the WNBA look to expand

989
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: at some point. Toronto is a pretty logical spot for

990
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: you know, having the infrastructure here already in the talent pool.

991
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 6: Edmonton would also be somewhat interesting, just given the history

992
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: there of the Edmonton Brads and the fact that the

993
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 6: Canadian women's teams, like they're where they do their camps

994
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: and things like that, is based in Edmonton. So I

995
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 6: know it would be weird to kind of give Edmonton

996
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 6: an expansion franchise before Toronto, but that'd be an option

997
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 6: as well.

998
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lee, look, i'll set you up here. You

999
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: know who ranks second in the national women's basketball rankings Australia.

1000
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: That's right, my man.

1001
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.

1002
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: Powerhouse team, don't you.

1003
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, we've won silver at the Olympics a couple

1004
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 7: of times. We should have beaten in America in Athens

1005
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 7: in two thousand and four, we were leading in that game,

1006
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 7: but yeah, we choked. Unfortunately, got quite a rivalry there

1007
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 7: with the US, so we need one with the Canadians too.

1008
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1009
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, hopefully if we ever get the Olympics,

1010
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: we can see Canada VERSUS Australia.

1011
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be fun, Lee, Lee similar to the US

1012
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 6: stealing James Naismith. Now the Kia Nurse is a two

1013
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 6: time Australian League champion and Australian MVP. How long before

1014
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 6: you guys try to claim her?

1015
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 7: Oh well yeah, why not? Right, let's do it right now,

1016
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, no time like the present. We're

1017
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 7: always up for stealing other people's really good athletes. That's fine,

1018
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 7: we'll give my passport.

1019
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: How many passports do you have? You played for every country?

1020
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 7: Yeah? A couple, a couple. I'm still working on them

1021
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 7: all right.

1022
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: At number three, sticking with the international flavor, here, Canada

1023
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: beats Puerto Rico in Puerto Rico to qualify for the

1024
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: two thousand Olympics back in ninety nine. Why is this

1025
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: one important blake?

1026
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1027
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 6: I promise there would be more Steve Nash content on

1028
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 6: the list. This was a huge Steve Nash performance, not

1029
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: just at the nineteen ninety nine FEBA Americas, but the

1030
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: eventual two thousand Sydney Games as well. So this was

1031
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: you know, people, people who follow the international scene now

1032
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 6: may not realize that the US actually has to qualify

1033
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 6: for these Olympic tournaments.

1034
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 5: They are not always an auto bid.

1035
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 6: And because Yugoslavia had won the nineteen ninety eight World Championships,

1036
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 6: the US had to qualify via the FEBA America's tournament.

1037
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 6: There was no last chance qualifier this time around, like

1038
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 6: we're familiar with now, So Canada was in a position

1039
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 6: where if you presume the US is going to win

1040
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: this tournament, Canada had to finish second. The US did

1041
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 6: go on to win the tournament, so that left Canada

1042
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 6: jockeying with Argentina, Venezuela, and the host Puerto Rico for

1043
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 6: that final berth. Canada had a really strong group stage.

1044
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 6: They beat Argentina, they beat Cuba, they beat Uruguay. They

1045
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 6: lost to the Americans as you'd expect, and then in

1046
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 6: the next round when the pools merged, they actually lost

1047
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 6: to Puerto Rico. Around victories against Brazil and the Dominican Republic.

1048
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: They then beat Venezuela to qualify for the semifinals, which

1049
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: put them in a rematch with Puerto Rico. So they're

1050
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: coming off a loss to Puerto Rico. It's a win

1051
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 6: in your in situation you're on the road. I found

1052
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 6: a YouTube of the entire game, and the crowd is

1053
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: crazy in the corner of Puerto Rico obviously, and it's

1054
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 6: just you know, I didn't watch the entire game, but

1055
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 6: you scan through and you feel the energy, and Canada

1056
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: gets this double digit lead, but it never feels safe

1057
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 6: down the stretch in the second half because the full

1058
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 6: court presses out and.

1059
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 5: You're playing there.

1060
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 6: You know, you've got this iconic moment of sherm at

1061
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 6: the free throw line trying to try to keep the

1062
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 6: game at arms length, and you have a tremendous performance

1063
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 6: from Steve Nash, who would win tournament MVP. So yeah, Canada,

1064
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 6: you know that that's they hadn't been to the Olympics

1065
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 6: in a little while. Then they haven't been to the

1066
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: Olympics since, So to do this on the road in

1067
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 6: a in a must win situation with a kind of

1068
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: maybe Nash's best performance with the Nash team short of

1069
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: when they upset Yugoslavia at the Olympics. Nash had I

1070
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 6: think twenty six, eight and eight in that game.

1071
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: But this is it.

1072
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 6: This is kind of the height of Nash with the

1073
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 6: national team, the height of this era of the national

1074
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 6: team and Canada, you know, we were hoping that they

1075
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: punched their ticket through Victoria this year.

1076
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: Obviously that's delayed now, but they haven't been back to

1077
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 5: this high height since.

1078
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: It's amazing it's been that long when we talk about

1079
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: all the talent that we've seen even making it into

1080
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: the NBA, and yeah, they still haven't been back since

1081
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: the two thousand Olympics. One thing, who else is on

1082
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: this team? Blake, like you said, Sherman Hamilton, obviously Nash,

1083
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: any other names that some of the listeners would.

1084
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 6: Know, Yeah, Michael Meeks who was kind of a longtime

1085
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: national team presidence, Todd McCullough, Oh, people are surely familiar with.

1086
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 6: And then Roan Barrett who kind of runs the national

1087
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 6: team now and is the father of R. J.

1088
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 4: Barrett.

1089
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: There you go, There you go.

1090
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 7: Lee.

1091
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: Do you remember watching any team Canada at the two

1092
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: thousand Olympics when this squad made it and Nash was,

1093
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: like Blake said, upsetting Yugoslavia.

1094
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 7: No, because I wasn't in Australia at the time. I

1095
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 7: was in Greece, So yeah, I didn't watch it. The

1096
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 7: only thing I remember is the Vin stank I Freddy,

1097
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 7: So yeah, now it didn't really notice any of it.

1098
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: Actually, would you task by yourself? Canada Basketball Jersey. Do

1099
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: you have one or would you buy one? Because I

1100
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: love these old Nash ones, the two thousand is eras.

1101
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the iconic ones, right, I would buy one. Sure,

1102
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: there's definitely some some serious national pride after watching Nash.

1103
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: Win that tournament.

1104
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: That's definitely the Canadian moment that lives on with me

1105
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: in terms of national basketball.

1106
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: For sure. I'm surprised you don't have one, Skeets.

1107
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

1108
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: I remember looking into it once. I was altot shocked

1109
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: how much it cost. I remember not being cheap at

1110
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: the time. This is a while ago. Now maybe they've

1111
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: come down in price now.

1112
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: But you're trying to get a Steve Nash or Sean Swords.

1113
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's a cool name.

1114
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna.

1115
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm getting a Canada basketball for sure. Blake,

1116
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: do you own any? I mean you are a big

1117
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: internettional guy. That's why I'm actually I thought you were

1118
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: the perfect guy to write this list because I was like,

1119
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna at least inject some of that

1120
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: international flavor of team Canada success both the men's and women's.

1121
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: Do you have paraphernalia like from from any of the squads.

1122
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 6: I don't I have a Canada back like just like

1123
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: a playing Canada basketball T shirt, but I don't have

1124
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 6: a Canada jersey.

1125
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: There was.

1126
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 5: It's actually something that I think Canada Basketball got a

1127
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 5: little annoyed with me about. At one point in the.

1128
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 6: Last couple of years, you couldn't actually buy a lot

1129
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: of Canada basketball marching for the jerseys for a really

1130
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 6: long time. So I remember, I think the year that

1131
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: they held two of those FEBA qualifiers here in July

1132
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 6: and Corey Joseph played and was right at the start

1133
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 6: of a free agency, so it was a bit of

1134
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 6: a bit of a messy one. But they played those

1135
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 6: qualifiers here in in Ottawa, and I remember people, you know,

1136
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 6: my mentions were just like, hey, how do I get

1137
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 6: a jersey? Like I want to I want a Canada

1138
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 6: basketball jersey, And they weren't for sale yet, they weren't available.

1139
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 6: So I think that's part of the you know one,

1140
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 6: you never know who's gonna who's gonna actually suit up,

1141
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 6: so who do you get on the jersey at least

1142
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 6: until they make it back to the Olympics, And then, yeah,

1143
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: they haven't always done the best job of making this

1144
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 6: stuff available, so I don't have one. They're also like

1145
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty bucks, so ah see, you know,

1146
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 6: I'm not a big I used to be a big

1147
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 6: jersey guy. I'm less, so at this point, I don't

1148
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 6: know if I'm dropping one hundred and sixty at least

1149
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 6: until Canada makes it back to the Olympics.

1150
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, Okay, that's our that's our pack here, guys,

1151
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: it's our Canada day packed. If they make the Olympics,

1152
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: we're all buying Canada basketball jerseys. I think that's fair.

1153
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't care, skeets.

1154
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 6: I guess the question for you and I is are

1155
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 6: we Are we going Jamal Murray or Michael Mulder to

1156
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 6: keep the five one.

1157
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: Nine rounds?

1158
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well yeah, I gotta go Jamal Murray, So

1159
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: you'll take a Molder. Well, okay, that's sure, Okay, Murray

1160
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: and older? Excellent, excellent? All right? At number two. Here

1161
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: we go, at number two on the list in the

1162
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 2: top ten moments in Canadian basketball history. It's simply called

1163
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: the shot. May twelfth, twenty nineteen.

1164
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1165
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: I think everyone knows what we're talking about. I think

1166
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 6: everyone knows we were building tour this time last year

1167
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 6: roughly before the Raptors got to their first NBA Finals,

1168
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 6: they had to get past the Philadelphia seventy six Ers.

1169
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 6: Game seven at home against the seventy six Ers, game

1170
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 6: on the line, Kawhi Leonard hits the first ever walk

1171
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 6: off game seven winner in NBA history. You know, I

1172
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 6: don't know that I need to set this up for

1173
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 6: you much. I think it's fresh in everyone's memories still

1174
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 6: a little more than a year later. I think it'll

1175
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 6: stay fresh in everyone's memories for a really long time.

1176
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 6: From the is this the dagger, to Kawhi's squad, to

1177
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 6: Jordan Lloyd, the random guy in a suit preening beside

1178
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 6: him watching it go down, to Joel Embiid's hands on

1179
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 6: his head at once it drops after the fourth bounce,

1180
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 6: the shots of Scotiabank Arena and all of the Jurassic

1181
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 6: Parks kind of erupting together. It's pretty much a perfect

1182
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 6: playoff moment that I think you put right up there

1183
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 6: with Jose Batista's bat flip, Joe Carter's Touch Them All,

1184
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 6: Doug Gilmore wrap round.

1185
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: I think it's right there.

1186
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 6: And obviously there's maybe some recency bias because Toronto teams

1187
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: haven't had a ton of playoff level success in the

1188
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 6: last twenty years or so, but I think this one's

1189
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 6: gonna stand the test of time. And despite it only

1190
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 6: being the second round of the playoffs, I think this

1191
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 6: is probably what's gonna be the lasting single moment memory

1192
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 6: for people from the Raptors' Championship front.

1193
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's exactly right. I'm glad you said

1194
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: it like that without a doubt. Twenty five fifty years

1195
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: from now, when people are talking about the Raptors Championship,

1196
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: it's almost gonna blend into one that I feel like

1197
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: people are gonna think, Kawhi hit that shot like in

1198
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: the finals, you know what I mean. Like, I know

1199
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: people will be like, ah, that was in the second

1200
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: round against six years, but it won't really matter. It'll

1201
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: be like, oh, the shot to the title, like it

1202
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: just it's so perfect that they go hand in hand.

1203
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: Were you Here's the question I want to know, because

1204
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: I know what mcmon lee would have been doing on

1205
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: press row Blake.

1206
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: Were you in it?

1207
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: You were assume you were in attendance for the game, right.

1208
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was up in the in the u Foster

1209
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: Huet Gondola, though I wasn't in the regular media seats.

1210
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 6: I to the to the blogg or overflow, so I

1211
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 6: was up top and basically, you know, I was just

1212
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 6: you remember Eric Morland with Mark Gasol during the parade.

1213
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 6: I basically had to do that for William Lou of

1214
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: Yahoo Sports.

1215
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So so you went, you celebrated like crazy.

1216
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 5: No I didn't.

1217
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 6: I kind of kept it together, and you know in

1218
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 6: that moment, it's weird, you know, as a writer. First

1219
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 6: of all, the first playoff game I ever covered, there

1220
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 6: was like an Emir Johnson open court dunk against the

1221
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 6: nets in that first year back in the playoffs, and

1222
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 6: I remember like giving a fist bump on press row

1223
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 6: and like getting some looks. So I've always been like

1224
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 6: really snake bitten about like showing any emotion.

1225
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 5: In these moments.

1226
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 6: So between that and like trying to think of like

1227
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 6: what you're gonna write, and like, weirdly though, like I

1228
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 6: did feel this, you know, you hear people talk about

1229
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 6: it something, it felt like this like time slowed down,

1230
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: and like I feel like I was able to capture

1231
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 6: or at least take in like a lot of people's

1232
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 6: reactions even though this all happened in an instant, including

1233
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 6: will lose, including a good friend Hull Mackenzie's Uh so

1234
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 6: it was cool there.

1235
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1236
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 6: I didn't celebrate myself though. I was just kind of

1237
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 6: trying to take everything in and process. You know, Hey,

1238
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 6: they're going to the Eastern Conference Finals and I maybe

1239
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 6: get to write about now one of the greatest shots

1240
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 6: in NBA history.

1241
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: Leellis would have ripped off his shirt, ran on the floor,

1242
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: leam I wrong, because we know your opinions on people

1243
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 2: on press rolls should be able to celebrate a little,

1244
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: especially a.

1245
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 7: Shot like this, I mean a shot like that to

1246
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 7: win the series and to go on. I definitely would

1247
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 7: have been up cheering and roaring and celebrating. Why not.

1248
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 7: You got to enjoy that moment. I mean, ultimately, you're

1249
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 7: a fan first and then a media personality second. So

1250
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 7: you know, something iconic like that, considering this franchise. Usually

1251
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 7: those things are the other team doing that, you know,

1252
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 7: Usually they're they're they're the ones that rim out that.

1253
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 7: If the Raptors were down by a point, Kawhi shot

1254
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 7: just just about falls in, but then it falls out,

1255
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 7: you know, So instead, you've got to enjoy those moments

1256
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 7: to be happy and just let the emotions flow through you.

1257
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 5: I just want to be clear. I didn't not enjoy it,

1258
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 5: and I well, I didn't. I didn't celebrate it like

1259
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: a fan.

1260
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 6: But you know, if there's ever a big play in

1261
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 6: a game, especially dunks, you know, I do look like

1262
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: Steve Francis in Visions dunk contest on press row sometimes

1263
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 6: and that goes for Raptors highlights or other teams highlights.

1264
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 6: If you're you know, if you're if Chris Bouchet is

1265
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 6: dropping a putback or something like that, you know, I'm

1266
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna react to the plays.

1267
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 5: I just you know, I can't.

1268
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 6: You have to pretend there's this level of objectivity a

1269
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 6: little bit trade. Do you remember, like where you were

1270
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 6: watching the shot drop, the bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce.

1271
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember.

1272
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 8: I was watching the second to last episode a Game

1273
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 8: of Thrones, just messaging all my friends, do not tell

1274
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 8: me what happens, Please, do not tell me what happens

1275
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 8: with this basketball game.

1276
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm kidding. It was the flip. Of course I was watching.

1277
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 8: Everybody else in my house was asleep, So my celebration

1278
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 8: was just a lot of punching, you know, like a

1279
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 8: lot of silent punching in the air because I couldn't scream.

1280
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 8: I'll wake everybody else up in the house, maybe wake

1281
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 8: my neighbors up, but you know, certainly some violence being

1282
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 8: taken out on the air surrounding me.

1283
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, I definitely remember where I was on my couch.

1284
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: It was fricking unbelievable. And Blake just mentioning all those

1285
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Toronto sporting moments and comparing it to the bat flip touch,

1286
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: themal Joe and Doug Gilmore's wrap around goal and never

1287
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: really myself ranked Doug Gilmore's goal anywhere near that any

1288
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: of those moments. But Doug Gilmore's goal in nineteen ninety

1289
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: three was pretty pretty sweet. Who was a d they

1290
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: play the King the Blues. He fooled Curtis Joseph. It

1291
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: was nasty. I thought he was passing out to Nikolai

1292
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: Borischewski or Jamie McCown was going to get the puck

1293
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: through a scramble, but Dougie held onto that thing and

1294
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful wrap around, like you're playing NHL

1295
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: ninety four. But it's hilarious that that moment, which didn't

1296
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: lead to a series when they lost in that conference

1297
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: final against the Saint Louis Blue. Those Leafs never came

1298
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: anywhere close to a cup in our lifetime. Just because

1299
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: they're the Leafs, they're up there. But I guess that

1300
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: the bat flip is somewhat somewhat similar to that. But hell,

1301
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: the sweet goal, I don't know. I think it might

1302
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: have been prettier than the Let's be honest.

1303
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 5: See the hockey Jones is still on the table.

1304
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: I know.

1305
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: I have a couple questions. One, Blake, be honest with me.

1306
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Do the Raptors win Game seven if that thing goes overtime?

1307
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

1308
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 6: Well, to hear Serge Ibaka and Jimmy Butler tell it, no,

1309
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 6: Obaca was pretty clear that they were they were gassed

1310
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: and it had to drop there. Jimmy Butler has been

1311
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: very adamant that they win if it goes to overtime,

1312
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 6: which I'll lean on a David pricism and say, if

1313
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 6: you don't like it, pitch better. If you wanted to

1314
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 6: win an overtime, you shouldn't let Kawhi Leonard hit that shot.

1315
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 6: I've also seen some like recently. I can't remember if

1316
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 6: it was Reddick or someone else. Someone else pointed out

1317
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 6: like Kawhi's gather catching the inbound is like maybe a

1318
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 6: travel slow it down. Yeah, exactly, get out of here.

1319
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 6: If we're gonna do that, we gotta.

1320
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 5: Do it for like every shot, every big shot in

1321
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: in NBA history.

1322
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1323
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 6: I think you know the way those games went when

1324
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 6: they were close, and obviously I think the Raptors won

1325
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 6: that whole series by like only one point or something

1326
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 6: like that. It would have been a serious coin flip

1327
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 6: at home with Kawhi, I'd probably lean toward the Raptors still,

1328
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 6: but we're talking like fifty one forty nine, with how

1329
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: fatigued he was at that point and how little else

1330
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 6: the Raptors were getting from from the rest of the

1331
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 6: roster at that point in the series.

1332
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gave it an honorable mention to Kawhi's dunk

1333
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: sort of sort of on around Giannis and the Bucks

1334
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: to cap off like that Game six Eastern Conference Finals

1335
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: come back. You sort of like lumped it in here

1336
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: with the shot, which I think was smart. But because

1337
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: you're it's like you can't bump the shot from the list.

1338
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could argue that maybe that

1339
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: win to punch their ticket to the finals deserves its

1340
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: own spot. But you get a little creative here, put

1341
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: just putting those two together.

1342
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is why I kind of grouped like

1343
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 6: things together. Like I think the shot is everyone's main memory.

1344
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 6: You know that dunk on Giannis though, is it probably

1345
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 6: you know, more important in the bigger picture because again,

1346
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 6: it takes them to the finals. It caps this twenty

1347
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 6: six to three run. It's also a wonderful Lowry highlight

1348
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 6: because Lowry has like a very subtle like push on

1349
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 6: Yannis after, because Lowry sprints up the court and like

1350
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: does this drop pass for Kuhi and then he just

1351
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 6: gets a little hand on Yannis to make sure he's

1352
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 6: not in great position. So it's a it's a great

1353
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 6: There were a ton of great Lowery highlights in that

1354
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 6: game seven against the seventy six ers two. But that's

1355
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: the you know, full brain genius Lowry right there to

1356
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 6: do something like that and transition. So you know that

1357
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 6: twenty six three run is that's what got them to

1358
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 6: the show. So that's that's probably just as big as

1359
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 6: the shot itself. But the shot crystallizes everything to one

1360
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 6: moment so much better than you know, the kapp era

1361
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 6: on a twenty six three run.

1362
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, but it's so weird, Like of the

1363
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: three and I know we're gonna get to number one

1364
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: in a second here, But of the three, the shot

1365
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: from Kawai against the sixers, the Raptors just straight up

1366
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: winning the title versus the Warriors, depleted Warriors, and then

1367
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: that game six, that massive run comeback to go to

1368
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: the finals. It's like I almost put that one higher,

1369
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: at least, just like personally I was there, it was like,

1370
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: oh my god, my team is actually going to the finals.

1371
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: They're coming back. The place was going. It was definitely

1372
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: at that moment too, where it's like, oh, it's happening.

1373
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: Is this is happening?

1374
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: They are going to the finals. They had lost the

1375
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: first two games in the series against like the really

1376
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: good Bucks teams, and then you know, obviously switched up

1377
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: they were doing defensively and reeled off four straight out.

1378
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 2: I just wonder, will I will. It's down down the line.

1379
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: I think I still might have that higher, but that's

1380
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: of course up for debate.

1381
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 6: I think what maybe helps with your point, like you said,

1382
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 6: you were there, The reason I think that that one

1383
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 6: stands out too, is that you know, they celebrated the

1384
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 6: Eastern Conference Finals title and getting to go to the

1385
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 6: to the championship. And it turns out that like that

1386
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 6: was such a special night and celebration in the streets

1387
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 6: of Toronto as well as in Scotia Bank Arena because

1388
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 6: they would eventually win the title on the road. So

1389
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 6: it feels like people got kind of you know that

1390
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 6: that was obviously people celebrated The night of the championship

1391
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 6: in the parade was incredible as well, but that was

1392
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 6: a big celebration too, just getting to that point and

1393
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 6: kind of realizing what was happening. So I think that

1394
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 6: happening at home, you know, makes it makes it hit

1395
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 6: hit a little harder than you know, any moment that

1396
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 6: stands out from the actual finals for sure.

1397
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: Well our final one here on our top ten moments

1398
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: in Canadian basketball history celebrating Canada Day. Yeah, it's an

1399
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: obvious one. It is the Toronto Raptors winning their first

1400
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: ever NBA championship in twenty nineteen, beating the Warriors. They're

1401
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: on the road, winning all those road games, and then

1402
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: as you write, you know, just the celebration in Canada.

1403
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: It's a while. We sort of made it moment for

1404
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: Canada basketball. Blay, Yeah, closing down Oracle. The parade obviously

1405
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: being what it was, dishonorable mention to the organizing of

1406
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: the parade and not having access to things like water

1407
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: and bathrooms and a timely route and things like that,

1408
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: but it was amazing And this is one where you know,

1409
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: I know, as a single moment, the shot probably stands

1410
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: out more. Maybe the parade measures up to it for

1411
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: some people or what they did, you know, on their

1412
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: own the night of the championship, But I think, you know,

1413
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: this is one that especially if we look back on

1414
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: this list in five ten years. We talked about the

1415
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: long term impact that the Carter effect had and the

1416
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: long term impact that Steve Nash had, and at least

1417
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: the short term impact we've seen in terms of the

1418
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: Canadian women's program having such success in driving youth participation.

1419
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: I think this is the big thing that's going to

1420
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: We're going to look back on this and be like, look,

1421
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: not only did this show that Canada is a basketball

1422
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: country too, and that Canada, through ratings and through the

1423
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: parade and through the record setting merch sales and all

1424
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: this stuff will support a basketball team. But I think

1425
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna see that this kind of second wave of things.

1426
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: The same way that the Carter eff inspired a lot

1427
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: of Canadians to try basketball and Steve Nash to let

1428
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: people know that you can make it to the highest

1429
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: levels out of Canada, this is going to solidify that,

1430
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: and it's going to solidify that Canada and Toronto can

1431
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: be basketball countries and basketball cities while they're also hockey

1432
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: countries and hockey cities. And I think you know, you're

1433
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: going to see a wave ten fifteen years from now

1434
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: of Canadian talent that instead of saying, oh, yeah, I

1435
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: watched the Vince Carter dunk contest, they're gonna say. You know,

1436
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna mention the Jamal Murray's and the Sae Gilges

1437
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: Alexander's and the Chris Bouches. But they're also going to say, yeah,

1438
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: my first basketball memory or what led me to try basketball,

1439
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: or my first memory of being in you know, Dave

1440
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Power's basement with watching the Raptors with my friends was

1441
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: the championship run. And I think obviously that's immeasurable anyway,

1442
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: but it's something we're going to see down the line.

1443
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: Just how important that championship is to basketball in the

1444
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: city and basketball in this country. Well said, also, you

1445
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: had a friend named Dave Powers.

1446
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1447
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was my best friend in high school. It's

1448
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 6: still one of my really good friends. He's I've told

1449
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 6: this story before on the other podcast, I think, but

1450
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 6: I mentioned Mengi Batier in the best man speech I

1451
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 6: gave for him.

1452
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: That's how that's.

1453
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: How hardcore into the Raptors Minutia we got in in

1454
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: high school. He was obsessed with the real GM message

1455
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: boards and swore to us up and down that like

1456
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: a source in the real GM message board said, Mengi

1457
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: Batier was just unbelievable in practice, and he was gonna

1458
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: be this big thing. So he's been roasted about that forever.

1459
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: He also thought the Raptors were getting Kevin Garnett from

1460
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: Mopede in a first You know, thank god the trade

1461
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: machine didn't exist back in in two thousand and three,

1462
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and four.

1463
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: Well, Mengi Batir did end up being a pretty big thing.

1464
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: He was a very very large man. But listen, you said,

1465
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: Dave Powers used to be your best friend. He's still

1466
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: your good friend. Maybe you can Derek dial him up

1467
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: after we're done with this podcast and give him a

1468
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: quick chat.

1469
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna let him know he's on this podcast.

1470
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 6: For sure, he's not gonna be he's not gonna be

1471
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: happy at me roasting his Megi Batier love.

1472
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 5: And he's it's power.

1473
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 6: Singular just the he'll he'll up set with us for

1474
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 6: saying Powers's singular power.

1475
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 5: So not as school as not quite as school as

1476
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 5: Max Powers.

1477
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: But he should take that as a compliment because my

1478
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: man Dave Setton also gets pluralized on this show.

1479
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: That's how it works. It now, it's just the nature

1480
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 4: of being a Canadian.

1481
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 8: What moments from the finals stick out to you, guys,

1482
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 8: like specific singular moments like we had the shot in

1483
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 8: round two? What from the twenty nineteen finals is the

1484
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 8: moment for me?

1485
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: It's Lowry Game six, like him just going bonkers and

1486
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: like really set in the tone for the possibly possibility

1487
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: of them winning the actual game and the actual title.

1488
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: That that to me, And because he's like of course

1489
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: made my favorite raptor. He is my favorite raptor of

1490
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: all time. Like it was like, oh, it was like

1491
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: the ultimate, like just f you to all the haters,

1492
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: you know. Of course he had He's had a lot

1493
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: of bad moments in the playoffs and didn't come through

1494
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: in games and had the offers and stuff like that,

1495
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, real ones know how talented he

1496
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: is and how much how much importance he is to

1497
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: the squad and the franchise in the organizations like that

1498
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: to me was awesome because it was like the ultimate

1499
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: just shut up, we're winning a title.

1500
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 5: Skeetz.

1501
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 6: I remember in twenty twelve, when the Raptors first got

1502
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 6: Kyle Lowry, I wrote something at Raptors Republic about just

1503
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 6: like how enamored with his style of play. I was

1504
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 6: in just a couple of preseason games and I remember

1505
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 6: talking to you about it on Twitter and we were

1506
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 6: just very and so I feel like for all of

1507
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 6: the people who you know, through Lowry having a bad

1508
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 6: reputation coming in and through Lowry, you know that there

1509
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 6: was an argument for a couple of years within the

1510
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: fan base of whether Lowry or Derozen was you know,

1511
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 6: the top or most important player. And it doesn't really matter,

1512
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 6: but you know, there was those who stuck by Lowry

1513
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 6: and thought things like Lowry should be an All Star

1514
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 6: and then Lowry should be All MBA and Lowry's the

1515
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 6: best player on the Raptors and you know, the second

1516
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 6: best player next to Kahi and stuff.

1517
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 5: I do think that that.

1518
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 6: You know, his Game seven against Philly was great, but

1519
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 6: the the eleven points early on in game six were

1520
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 6: you know, I think for Lowry personally, I'm sure he

1521
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 6: would tell you that that meant a lot, but for

1522
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 6: the for the Raptors fans that had been in Lowry's

1523
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 6: corner for eight years as well. And then I think,

1524
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 6: I think in terms of singular like images, the bloody

1525
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 6: Fred van vliet Yell.

1526
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 5: Is the one that I think of in my head.

1527
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one, I would almost add, like

1528
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: my mind immediately goes to all the Raptors fans tray,

1529
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: like in attendance in Oakland, you know, the singing of

1530
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 2: the Canadian national anthem for crying out loud like after

1531
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: some victories there. That'll stick out to me, Tass, is

1532
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: there another moment we're forgetting?

1533
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: Like Blake, that monstrous Fred van vliet Yell was him,

1534
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, coming into his own just like Lowry, because

1535
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget, Like like Blake was talking about

1536
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Kawhi earlier in the second round, Kawhi was the guy

1537
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: who got them over the line just to get to

1538
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: the conference finals. No one was really giving him enough.

1539
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: And then that's what propelled them to the championship. Well

1540
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: that's what propelled fran van Bleet to become the player

1541
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't and Kyle Lowry to become the player he was.

1542
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: And then fred yelling all over the Warriors in Game

1543
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: six there as he was dancing. I mean, that was

1544
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: the best Freddy I think we'll ever see that. That's

1545
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: why hub Brown gave him an MVP vote, So that

1546
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: that stands out to me as as a phenomenal, phenomenal visual.

1547
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: And then the end of the game was almost almost

1548
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, perfectly Toronto Sports in a nutshell because it

1549
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: was dragging on and on and on and on, and

1550
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: it seemed like is something going to go wrong here?

1551
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: The Warriors get get called for a technical foul because

1552
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: they called a timeout without a timeout, and and so

1553
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: we're just fricking waiting like this isn't actually going to

1554
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: blow up in their faces, that this isn't actually going

1555
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: to happen. So there was it was very Toronto asked

1556
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: towards the end, so I couldn't help. But you know,

1557
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: but be that that negative guy at the end, just

1558
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: worrying for that last second. But yeah, those are the

1559
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: images and definitely, yeah, the fans, it's still bonkers thinking

1560
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: about Probably in the US, you know, they turned off

1561
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: the televisions, they did, they didn't they didn't see all

1562
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: these reports coming back with all these thousands of fans

1563
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: uh sitting there in Oracle Arena chanting out their chanting

1564
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: for their Toronto Raptors. Though, Yeah, that was that was

1565
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: astonishing to me that that that many fans were down

1566
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: there for sure.

1567
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 5: Lol.

1568
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: Vernie was there for one game, wasn't he.

1569
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was with my Vernie, but I was in

1570
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 7: the crab in the stands with the Raptors fans singing

1571
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 7: after game.

1572
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: I tried to avoid, sorry, I tried to avoid not

1573
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: saying old Vernie's I did it. I did it, but

1574
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: Skeets had to bring him in there.

1575
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: And you know, if I had avoided saying his name,

1576
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: that you would have said.

1577
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: No, I wanted last Vernie, but go ahead, No.

1578
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 7: But it was it was incredible. I've spent spoken about

1579
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 7: it before, like you know, I am an Australian person,

1580
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 7: but in that moment, I felt Canadian, like.

1581
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh, hold on, I go from Pakistan.

1582
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 7: Ah. You know, I've got a few different aliases out there.

1583
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 7: But you know, being in the crowd with those fans

1584
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 7: channing channing, we the North and singing the rap the

1585
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 7: Canadian national anthem, like it was spine tingling to be

1586
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 7: in there and just to see the passion and how

1587
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 7: people were just so dedicated to what they were doing,

1588
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 7: their singing and it was.

1589
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: It was an incredible.

1590
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 7: Experience to be there for it. But I also go

1591
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 7: back to even just Game one, because we know that

1592
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 7: the Raptors at home in game ones of playoff series

1593
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 7: have a terrible, terrible record, and the fact that they

1594
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 7: won Game one, they held firm. That was the only

1595
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 7: game that was one on home court, and the entire

1596
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 7: series too, by the way, and it was won by

1597
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 7: the Raptors. It wasn't until that moment that I truly

1598
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 7: believed maybe they could actually beat the Warriors. You know,

1599
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 7: I thought, I still thought the Warriors are too good,

1600
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 7: They're too experienced. Obviously, Klay Thompson didn't get injured until

1601
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 7: late in the series, so they still had apart from

1602
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant. You know, he came back but he didn't laugh.

1603
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 7: I just thought, Nah, the Raptors can't do it. They've

1604
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 7: already had their finals by beating the Sixers and then

1605
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 7: by coming back against the Bucks. Can they do it

1606
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 7: against you know, one of the greatest teams of all time.

1607
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 7: Is like, no, it can't happen. And they did it.

1608
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 7: It was just incredible because, you know, I honestly have

1609
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 7: wondered whether or not the Raptors would have even survived

1610
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 7: if you know, when they've had guys like Vince went

1611
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 7: the way that he left, and then Chris bish left

1612
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 7: and then Lowry didn't want to stay there, you know,

1613
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 7: so things sort of fell into place, and so for

1614
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 7: them to actually win a championship was just an incredible

1615
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 7: turnaround for that franchise.

1616
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: I still don't believe they won't still not one hundred

1617
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: percent certain that that happened in twenty ninety.

1618
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's funny because you write in the article, right, Blake,

1619
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 2: that the Raptors are the longest reigning single season champions

1620
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: of all time.

1621
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 6: Yes, so I was very I mean, you guys have

1622
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 6: probably had moments of boredom or your brain's not functioning

1623
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 6: completely as well as they normally do.

1624
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 5: During all of this.

1625
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 6: So I went back and I looked, and I was

1626
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 6: trying to find, you know, the exact date at which

1627
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 6: the Raptors would become the longest single season champions, and

1628
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: I ended up tracking every title RAN so like if

1629
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 6: a team won multiple championships in a row that counted

1630
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 6: as one cohesive title RAN So like the Celtics in

1631
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 6: the fifties and sixties had an almost three thousand day

1632
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 6: Bruno San Martino like title reign. The Raptors are the

1633
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: already the fourteenth longest reigning champions of all time. By

1634
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 6: the time a champion is crowned later in the restart,

1635
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 6: if everything goes well, it will have been about four

1636
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty seven days of the Raptors as leaked

1637
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 6: as NBA champs.

1638
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: So they would skyrocket up that list, I assume if

1639
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: they go back to.

1640
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 6: Back then If if yeah, because I'd imagine the twenty

1641
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 6: twenty one championship will be later than yell as well,

1642
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 6: as we bumped the start of the next season back

1643
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 6: as well, so they could they could get as high

1644
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 6: as what are we looking at here? They could get

1645
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 6: as high as six if they went a second one here,

1646
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,520
Speaker 6: So something.

1647
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: Else on the line down there in Orlando. All Right,

1648
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: I love this list. Top ten moments in Canadian basketball history.

1649
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: You had James Naysmith, who is also hung like a horse,

1650
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: inventing basketball. Bennett and Wiggins. That was an old shout

1651
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: out for the Basketball Jones fans, Bennett and Wiggins going

1652
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: number one in consecutive drafts. The Raptors first ever game,

1653
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 2: we named all ten players that played in it. Captain

1654
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 2: Canada went in back to back MVP. Shout out to

1655
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: Steve Nash. The miracle on hardwood we learned about at

1656
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: the eighty three University Games, Vince's two thousand Slam dunk contest,

1657
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 2: Iconic Canadian women clinching Olympic berth on Canada Day in

1658
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Canadian men beating Puerto Rico in Puerto Rico

1659
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: to actually qualify for the two thousand Olympics. They hadn't

1660
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: done that in a long time, and they haven't done

1661
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: it since. The shot from Kawhi at number two and

1662
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: number one, that's a no brainer. The Raps winning the

1663
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen NBA Championship. That was a lot of fun. Blake,

1664
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Do you have anything planned for what,

1665
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: of course, is going to be a very weird Canada

1666
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: Day with obviously restrictions and social distancing and all that.

1667
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, really probably you guys know me, I'll probably like

1668
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 6: do some work on draft profiles for guys. The raptors

1669
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 6: might get the eight or something like that. No, I

1670
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 6: mean Canada Day as a can I get like a

1671
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 6: little political on here. Just yeah, as as a like

1672
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 6: in adulthood, as you kind of do some relearning about

1673
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 6: what Canada's history is actually like compared to what we

1674
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 6: learn in elementary school and high school. You know, our

1675
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 6: history as a country is not as shiny as we

1676
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 6: sometimes like to think. And I don't I don't mean

1677
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,520
Speaker 6: that to say Canada Day, you know, celebrating your canadianness

1678
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 6: isn't worth celebrating.

1679
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 5: That's a bad sentence, but you get what I mean.

1680
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: But I do think, you know, it's important to use

1681
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 6: this day to reflect a little bit on what Canada

1682
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 6: Day means and where we are as a country right

1683
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 6: now in terms of our colonial history and our treatment

1684
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 6: of our indigenous populations. So, in addition to probably enjoying

1685
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 6: a couple of beers and a couple highlight packages on

1686
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 6: some number fifty eight prospects, Like you know, Canadians Kareem

1687
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 6: Maine or uh Isaiah mic or something like that, plan

1688
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 6: to do some reflecting and some reading on you know,

1689
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 6: what our country's history really is and what Canada Day.

1690
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 6: You know what what Canaday means for our indigenous population

1691
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 6: versus what it means for us who have the privilege

1692
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 6: to celebrate Canada for only its good things. So I

1693
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 6: would encourage everyone to do the same and give some

1694
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 6: thought and reading to that. If you have time on

1695
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 6: your Canada Day as well.

1696
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, very well said. And if you can do

1697
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: it while you're sipping on a Molson. I mean, Lee

1698
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: would be upset, but that's fine. The thing everyone else

1699
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: would expect it. And as you said, as you said

1700
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: organic Mill Street, organic, will that work for you?

1701
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 7: Give me a ricks red.

1702
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: Records read that go right through you man. Yeah. As

1703
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned off the top, though, Blake, this actual article.

1704
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: It's going to drop on the Athletic on July first,

1705
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: on Canada Day. So make sure you go showlake some

1706
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: love and go check that out. You you know, you

1707
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: did a great job of bringing it down. But you're

1708
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: you're so talented obviously as a writer and you really

1709
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: really like set the scene for some of these maybe

1710
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: that you don't that some of the listeners don't know about,

1711
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: So go check that out. Be a polite Canadian too,

1712
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: right and leave them a time message in the comments.

1713
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't think we're asking too much there, Blake. What's

1714
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: the best way for listeners to follow your stuff though?

1715
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? At Blake Murphy ODC on Twitter.

1716
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 6: Hopefully you guys know my work with the Athletic covering

1717
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 6: the Raptors and some of the Canada basketball stuff, So

1718
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 6: check myself and Eric Kreen out there. We also have

1719
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 6: our Raptors podcast on the Athletic Network Raptors Reasonablests, where

1720
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 6: you know, we've been doing some obviously stuff with the

1721
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 6: receding schedule in the return to play, but we also

1722
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 6: had Matt Devlin on a couple weeks ago to to

1723
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 6: relive the championship and talk about some of what Taz

1724
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 6: was talking about with the way the game ended and

1725
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 6: how challenging that was for for someone like Devlin who

1726
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: can't you know, can't let that Canada the Championship is

1727
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 6: yours out a moment too soon, So check us out

1728
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 6: there as well.

1729
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: What's this podcast? But man, that you're working on the

1730
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: music one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I have a music podcast, like co hosts

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Speaker 6: with my friend Jake Goldsby, who some of you may

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Speaker 6: know as a Drake's friend from Degrassi in the Drake

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Speaker 6: years of De Grassy. So we have a music podcast

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Speaker 6: called Columbia House Party where we kind of every week

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Speaker 6: we go back to an album we either really loved

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Speaker 6: or was really important to the the pop, punk or

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Speaker 6: emo or indie music scenes. Sometimes we have guests on

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Speaker 6: and they just picked the album, but it's just like

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Speaker 6: a one hour kind of reflection on that album and

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Speaker 6: what it meant to us and what it meant to

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Speaker 6: the to the genre and kind of explores, you know,

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Speaker 6: how we connect to music and how we all use

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Speaker 6: music to connect to each other.

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Speaker 2: That's cool Columbia House Party. Check that out as well.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Blake, thank you so much. Happy Canada today.

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Speaker 2: Everybody stay safe out there. Clipper Bros. You heard it

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Speaker 2: here first. Have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome,

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day people.

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Speaker 3: One thing you know about this line, I know.

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Speaker 2: Canada.

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Speaker 3: I know, I said, I said the rest of my days.

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Speaker 5: But all and all they got in the way

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Speaker 6: We want to settlem