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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 1: and Shannon Gross. We got the band back together. I'm here,

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Speaker 1: Nate's here, Dougs here in our furry friend Kurt over

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Speaker 1: last week. I apologize to everyone out there because I

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Speaker 1: It was not a good week for me. I'm still

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Speaker 1: recovering all right now. I'm all right. I just have

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Speaker 1: just sound terrible. How you doing, Nate, I'm great, man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll tell you what. Kurt, Yes, sir, your

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Speaker 1: So is everything coming back to life? Like everything everything?

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Speaker 1: I just asked the question. Everything seems to be working

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Speaker 1: it ain't build up like that. Yeah. So what's the latest.

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Speaker 1: everything's reacting like it should, progressing like it should. Yeah. Good.

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Speaker 1: So you look good, man? Yeah, man, look good. All right,

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Speaker 1: he missed you guys missed you too, miss our lunches. Wow. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the passing of Wade Wilson, get into that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Gil Brandt got into the Hall of Fame. Just a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff's been going on the last week, man.

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Speaker 1: So but first off, the big game yesterday and for

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Speaker 1: all of you people, that say that game was boring.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I just getting to see the much

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. It's one of the for three quarters

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Speaker 1: that was just going away again. Yeah, man, that was

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Speaker 1: Do you watch any of the Kirk Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then he got in the fourth quarter and they scored.

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Speaker 1: Even better? You know? Oh, I just enjoyed the game.

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Speaker 1: do it. And I know this ain't what y'all want

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Speaker 1: I would say this again if the Cowboys have an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: it again. I've said I've been saying it for four

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Speaker 1: then we did it from four thirty eight thirty next day.

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Speaker 1: I just slept for all when came on back because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do this show because I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: Kurt Man. Yeah. Yeah, and then then I'm saying I

426
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Speaker 1: better get back because Kurt we hit us. But the

427
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Speaker 1: last minute again, he ain't gonna give us a week notice,

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Speaker 1: leash shouting and give us a month notice. I gave

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Speaker 1: you notice, sir, Sir, sir, he's got all proper in

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Speaker 1: his absence. Sir, Hey, but your peeps are good faith,

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Speaker 1: they are, they're good, They're good. I'm going back next week.

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Speaker 1: Say you haven't been there, and so we're going back

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Speaker 1: from Marta gra Monroe, Marta gras but his mom. His

434
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Speaker 1: mom says she didn't even know what he looked like.

435
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Speaker 1: Many doing football season. He's just if she don't come

436
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Speaker 1: up here. She watches the show. She knows what I

437
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Speaker 1: look like. Hey, mom, how are you hi? Checking in? Yeah?

438
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Speaker 1: She was worried about me because she didn't hear from

439
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Speaker 1: me all last week because I was came back from

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Speaker 1: Mexico and I pretty much died on my bed for

441
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Speaker 1: two days. Wow, man, So you opened the windows and

442
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Speaker 1: air the house side, and I did go by a

443
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Speaker 1: candle I saw after I was able to get out

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Speaker 1: of bed. And we don't even know about fog the

445
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Speaker 1: whole thing. I can only imagine it's because I was sick, Kurt.

446
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Speaker 1: But you know when you was so strong though, you

447
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Speaker 1: know you ain't gotta go buy a new toilet and

448
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Speaker 1: that like somebody else. We didn't bathe and Mexican food,

449
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Speaker 1: no telling what. No, it wasn't down low, Kurt. It

450
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Speaker 1: was up north of the equator, not south of the equator.

451
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Speaker 1: I was good. I wasn't like Douglas. I wasn't. I

452
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Speaker 1: wasn't blowing up the toilet. I was just coughing, sweating.

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Speaker 1: All right, we need to We'll say this. Fumigating with

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Speaker 1: lysol after a sickness is a is a good thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Man, That's what That's what I like. Open

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Speaker 1: the windows because I'm opening the windows tonight. It's supposed

457
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Speaker 1: to be like eighty degrees today. Yeah, and then the

458
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Speaker 1: low is supposed to be like twenty eight on Thursday.

459
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Speaker 1: We're all gonna be sick. Yep. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: We got some other stuff to talk about. Kellen Moore,

461
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Speaker 1: gil Brandt, tell you what later she coming. She's gonna

462
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Speaker 1: come for like the last ten minutes. I have no

463
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Speaker 1: idea what she's bringing, but she's gonna. She's gonna come by.

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Speaker 1: And then uh, coach Garrett not getting an extension. Look

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Speaker 1: because I think I've in the short time that he's

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Speaker 1: been announced, I think I've already changed my opinion on him.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into that in a minute. But Gil

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Speaker 1: Brandt got into the Hall of Fame over the weekends

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Speaker 1: much just very innovative, got into what the Ring of

519
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Speaker 1: Honor this year, Yes, and which seems to be kind

520
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Speaker 1: of a precursor. Yeah, it kind of seems to be

521
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: a precursor to getting into the Hall of Fame is

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Speaker 1: getting into the Ring of Honor, which all that with

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Speaker 1: Charles Right, Um, if you don't when when when when

524
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Speaker 1: When when the guy who's representing you bring your name up?

525
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Speaker 1: And if you're not even in the Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing to say, Guy, he's not even

527
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: good enough to be in the Ring of Honor. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's did you know how well did you know Gil

529
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Speaker 1: Gil was when brought me in? Was it really Gil?

530
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Speaker 1: Gil was one that brought me in. Gil even when

531
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I was first when my draft class came up, you know,

532
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: Gil was one that that knew me. And then when

533
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Speaker 1: the USL folded. He flew into Tampa and uh and

534
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: you know talk to me, you know, Uh, Gil is

535
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: Gil was the first guy that openly and everybody knew

536
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: that would go at the smaller colleges the way I

537
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: put like the black colleges at that time, that's what

538
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: we call him the black colleges. He would go and

539
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: get these players. And he was the first guy to

540
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: go and get basketball players, track guys. If he saw

541
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: a way he could translate your your athletic skill to

542
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Speaker 1: the football field, they were willing to do it. And

543
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: they were willing to hide you if you was you know,

544
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Speaker 1: if you wonder at where you needed to be, there

545
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: will hop back. Then they used to hire players and

546
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: bring you along. Yeah. Gil Gil was an innovator, man,

547
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean forty and all these tests. Gil was was

548
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: he headed all of this stuff? Yeah, you signed as

549
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: a free agent with the Cowboys. Yes? Did you have another?

550
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Did he kind of sell you on him? Or is

551
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: he the one that No, I've always been a Cowboys fan. Yeah,

552
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I ain't need selling. But what sold me was I

553
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: sold out to the money for the first one one

554
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: to rent back then was but eighty five hundred dollars

555
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Speaker 1: Cowboys were just come signed with us. You may make

556
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Speaker 1: the team. I'm like, okay, how much y'all offering? Well,

557
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Speaker 1: if you made the team, Sarah called my agent Risks five.

558
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: By the next plain you can buy a fandom, can't you?

559
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Speaker 1: You can buy an eight two back then you could?

560
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Real was he would he be around the team much

561
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Speaker 1: like during the season and once he was just all

562
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Speaker 1: drive prospects. He held he would have his scouts doing

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Speaker 1: most of the work. But if he if he saw

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00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: something like it, he was show up at practice. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know he had he had to run of the

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Speaker 1: Uh he had to run of the rules because it

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Speaker 1: was him, Miss text Rown. Uh, Tom Landry. They that

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Speaker 1: was it? How was it? They've they've they've made it,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a little football mafia. Yeah for real,

570
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: for real? Did you ever do any interviews with him

571
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Kirk any story? Yeah, yeah, we're to him a few

572
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: times for different documentaries. We did the Doomsday documentary to

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Speaker 1: go and any any interesting tidbits that you didn't know

574
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: before you Oh, man, I should have looked him up before.

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00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just like um Nate was saying, he

576
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: went after all these guys that were just you never heard.

577
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: We're working on a documentary now about who's a guy

578
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: who's a former basketball player and came to the Cowboys

579
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: and it just he was looking for athletes and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys have paid off and he drafted Patie Lewis. Yeah,

581
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Speaker 1: to be smart, you just could be a domina. I

582
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: wanted to have made the old scheme. Yeah, you know.

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00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: It was the year they drafted Mel Renfron sixty four.

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Speaker 1: Back then, there wasn't a time limit on the draft,

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Speaker 1: so there were some questions about whether Mel was hurt

586
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Speaker 1: and somehow, I don't know the whole story at the

587
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Speaker 1: top of my head, at Brent sort of hit him out,

588
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: and then they wanted to check the medicals, so they

589
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the draft, they stopped everything down

590
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Speaker 1: and went to like see or whatever Washington where he

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Speaker 1: was held the draft for like four or five hours

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Speaker 1: just for this one pick, and they finally determined that

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Renfro was the guy they wanted and drafted him. So really,

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00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: it's just crazy if you go back and look at

595
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: some of the tape of the early draft where they

596
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: were just like in this room at these tables. Yeah,

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00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: and what the draft is. They've turned that into Yeah.

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00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: Well it was literally real back in the sixties that

599
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: guys would show up with Just Street and Swiss magazine.

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00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: They draft up based off that where he had Gil

601
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: was doing the legwork and going on all these other colleges.

602
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: And that's why the Cowboys got so good in the

603
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies was because they were so far ahead

604
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: in the drafting process. Still were. Man, Well, congratulations Gil Brandt.

605
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: And he's still around too. I see him at U

606
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: see him in the press box all the time at games.

607
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: It's very active from being eighty whatever. He's on Twitter

608
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: all the time. And we all felt a great job

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Speaker 1: with the magazine. I look forward to it every wednes

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Speaker 1: They want to arrive. Thanks Gil, How how do we

611
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: get that drop? We interviewed him on the UM Douglas

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00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: know for sure, but yeah, those were the Yells Sullivan

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Speaker 1: days of on air. Yeah, we need to see if

614
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: we can get him on the show. Kurt, who we

615
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna Josh? Yeah, bring him back, bring him back. Who

616
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: are we gonna get special guests this offseason? Well, we

617
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: gotta get Will. Yeah, we gotta get together on that man,

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00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: talk about it. You gotta get Willed in him. If

619
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Speaker 1: he can come in next week because of before they

620
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: get real heavy into the that'd be awesome. Will I'm

621
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Speaker 1: buying all that? Whoa hm hmm. Maybe Steven coming back?

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Who Stephen? Yeah? Yeah, but they ask him say no,

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Speaker 1: all right, Kellen Moore's your new offensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. And I'm just gonna I'm gonna go ahead

625
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: and get my opinion if you guys, you guys, tell

626
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong in thinking this. No, think how

627
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: you want? All right, I tell you how I'm thinking,

628
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and then and then you tell me how you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can have an opinion. At first, I was like, great,

630
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: more of the same, coming from the same coaching tree.

631
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get the same same, same old same bland

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And you hear how much of a

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Speaker 1: genius Kelling Moore is and all this, and but you

634
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Speaker 1: know what, I think I've changed my mind. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: how about you going to say something dramatic? No, that's

636
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Speaker 1: what do you think? I wasna same old blah blah. Sorry,

637
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Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time finding words this Monday morning.

638
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Speaker 1: I've been sober for a week. It's taking its toll

639
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: on me. Um so, no, I wasn't on board. But

640
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: then hearing Dak talk about like, that's his guy and

641
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Speaker 1: he really likes killing And unless he's just lip service,

642
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643
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Speaker 1: and said, no, this is the guy that I wanted,

644
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted, and he made a case

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Speaker 1: for him to be the offensive coordinator. And to me

646
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647
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Troy's success was largely based on because of his relationship

648
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: with Nor and they clicked, and Sean McVay and Jared

649
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: Goff and a lot of these young quarterbacks become great

650
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because of who they have as their offensive coordinator

651
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: early in their careers. And if Dak is comfortable with

652
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: Kellen and they're on the same page and he can

653
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: develop him, and he's a young guy and they speak

654
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: the same language and they see the same things and

655
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: they've been in game situations together, I'm all about it

656
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: at least seeing what happens. Let me, let's see it

657
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: before we say poo poo the idea, because I mean,

658
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: if he can take Dak and understands, hey, Dak works

659
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: better when he's outside of the pocket, he works better

660
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: when he's moving. I see this. I'm on the sideline,

661
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm in the room with him. I get it, we're

662
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: speaking the same language. Then I'm on board with it.

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00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm willing to see a year or two and see

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Speaker 1: what he may not get two years if this doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: but I'm willing to see what happened. So that's where

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00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm at on this thing. At first, I was like, oh,

667
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Speaker 1: rubbing my face, But now you know, after hearing Dak

668
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: talk about it, I'm at least willing to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Where are you at on

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: this thing? I like it. I think I'm like kind

671
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Speaker 1: of like you. I want to see him get a chance.

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: They say that, you know he was born to be

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Speaker 1: a coach, even coming out of college. I said he

674
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Speaker 1: was going to be a coach. Nate, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: here with Nate's going to disagree. Nate me too. But

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677
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Speaker 1: so I think he likes that kind of style. He

678
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Speaker 1: threw it all over the place. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: bring some fresh ideas. Plus he's already knows the player

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Speaker 1: he's not coming in totally blind. So is he the answer?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it doesn't bother me at all

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Speaker 1: that they're giving him a chance. Okay, And I like

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Speaker 1: the idea they're bringing Kitney in, a veteran guy to

684
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: I like quarterback coach. He'll be there. I think he'll

685
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: be a good sounding board. Everyone that's worked with Kitten

686
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Speaker 1: that loves Kittna, Hey, give us a long version. Dog

687
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: about what but this situation with the quarterback? What do

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00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: you think with? I mean, I have no idea whether

689
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore's anybody I'm like. But I do like John

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00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: Kitna also, So that's done. You know where Duck stands

691
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: on this. That's all you got to say about that.

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00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: I hope for the best. I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised. Well,

693
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: why we all sounded like when we were doing a

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Speaker 1: receiving Black committee. Oh that's why I'm laughing, because it's

695
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Speaker 1: to a man, we all are. We all said, well, uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't like you? Yeah, well you're rolling your dice

697
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that you've got a boy, Jeane. I'm good with it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. You don't that kind of sound like

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Speaker 1: what we're doing Last year? You got a case he

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Speaker 1: half like, lookalike, I know that. Let me say this

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Speaker 1: right here, what I don't care what they do as

702
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: long as it's a about Dad. That if it's about

703
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: Dak and it's about helping him be a good guy,

704
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: a better quarterback, I don't care. H I knew that,

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Speaker 1: missus Jones then did it right. They played it smart

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: because by time they was in search of that, all

707
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: everybody that was supposed to be it is gone. M hmm.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Garrett should get more involved with a

709
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Speaker 1: play calling if it if it helps Dak And I'm

710
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Speaker 1: not trying to be fund of him, I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: promise you all year long to draft through that if

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Speaker 1: it helps Dad, because we cannot be when the season

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Speaker 1: he's not and I know I don't want to hear.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear man we we we we six

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Speaker 1: and old? Are we are five and one? That's what

717
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: I want to hear. Because our quarterback is playing well,

718
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: our defense is playing well, our offense is playing well.

719
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. Well, do everything in your

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Speaker 1: power if you're gonna get this guy twenty plus million

721
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Speaker 1: dollars a year, do everything in your power to make

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Speaker 1: sure that he is comfortable and ready to go. And

723
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: if Kellen Moore is it, let's go. If Kitna is it,

724
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: let's go now. And it got to work. It ain't.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for ten plus wins every year for the

726
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: next two or three years. It's got to work. I

727
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Speaker 1: ain't going on assumption up. Let's wait and see. It's

728
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Speaker 1: got every move's got to be pushing forward to ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve wins. That's that's that's that's how I'm gonna look

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Speaker 1: over in Mexico with you next year and I'll be crying.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I'll be drying out with you to make out.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. We should take a hanger with the boys,

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Speaker 1: trip to Mexico, super Bowl or Mexico one way or

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Speaker 1: You think we can get our wives permission? I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could. We can take our wives, but just

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Speaker 1: put him in another hotel. There you go, We're drinking

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Speaker 1: one in the hotel and stumble back over to him,

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Speaker 1: there you go. I'd be good for maybe two or

742
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Speaker 1: I probably hang with you. We'll get Shannon hangover married. No, no,

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Speaker 1: maybe the tattoo. But who who do you marry? The

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Speaker 1: gal from the spy who shagged me? Uh? Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: owner name? Yeah? Yeah. Anyway, we'll get you hangover married. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'll take the tattoo, not the marry. Probably not on

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Speaker 1: my face though. You got any tattoos, Kurt, No, no, man, really,

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Speaker 1: none of the three of us half tattoos. Never never

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Speaker 1: when I turned forty, which was a few years ago,

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,080
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Speaker 1: any of the three. I know you don't have a

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00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920
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Speaker 1: they call pulling back the curtain. Yeah, we got fifty

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what's been holding that. Maybe I maybe I've

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841
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that Super Bowl

842
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: halftime show, did you? Yeah, yeah, I am too, But

843
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: I kind of wish they would have gone all at

844
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: l But when have they done that? Like when they

845
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: never That's the thing. I watched this awesome UM documentary documentary,

846
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: Oh hey, Tay, by the way, Welcome to the show,

847
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: Taylor Stearn. It was like about like the best half

848
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: time performances. The only time they really dedicated a halftime

849
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: show to something or a message was when you two

850
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: performed UM after nine to eleven for that Super Bowl,

851
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Like they made it very clear that was the message.

852
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: They did all of that, Like it was just interesting

853
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: to hear Bono talk about how they decided to do that,

854
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: Like he was wearing a jacket that had the American

855
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: flag they showed everyone. But anyway, true true, But uh,

856
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: let me say is that that you brought that up

857
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: okay halftime? I was in Louisianna, miss miss Tay, and

858
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: what do you think when when they went I went

859
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: to jamming with him I went to party with the

860
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: dance and I had all the young ladies. We were

861
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: dancing apart. Man, they ain't had a good time. Oh

862
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: we went all go ahead on. Yeah, yeah, I was

863
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: in Louisa, but go ahead on. Literally yesterday, but were jamming.

864
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: They was jamming. You've been maroon five fan? I ain't now.

865
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: It was like, mannke you enjoyed? To dude, I said,

866
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: what was he saying? I was just dancin't know what

867
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: to do, saying did you like it? When he took

868
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: a shirt off, keeps asking that I didn't even look.

869
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was that jack. He's kind of

870
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of been working out or either that or

871
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: tattoos make him look bigger something, maybe more tattooed, Shannon.

872
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe one tattoo. All right, Well might tell

873
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: you what. This week is not very happy, but it

874
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: speaks volumes of what coaches and players and basically how

875
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: football really is family. And of course, on Friday we

876
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: heard the news of the passing of Wade Wilson, who

877
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: was a player and coach. Here. Yes, horrible. I was

878
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: really bummed out. I mean, only sixty years old, just

879
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: very very sad. But just when we saw on social

880
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: media was incredible. I think, you know, it was everyone

881
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: from Troy Agman, Emmett Smith, Miles Austin, Jason Went and

882
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. I mean, so many people that he touched,

883
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: the live of at Smith, Darren Woodson, everyone was just

884
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: kind of sharing little antidotes or stories or how they felt,

885
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: and throughout the whole thing, it was to just remember

886
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: his kindness, remember his support. He was so encouraging, he

887
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: was so nice. He taught me so much, and I

888
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: mean Dak knows it too. Dak's main reason of being

889
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: here was the coaches. Everyone knew. The coaches and the

890
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: scouts were pretty split on Dak, and it was Lenahan

891
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: and coach Wilson who were like, we gotta get this

892
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: guy here. So it was just it was crazy to see.

893
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: And I mean, Wade was an awesome guy. He was

894
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: always nice and he's always wearing that the team, the Team,

895
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: the team shirt always, you guys know, at training camp,

896
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: around the building. But I mean, you guys know, you

897
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: really don't ever think that people are going to leave

898
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: us so soon, and he did. And just the impact

899
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: that he made, I thought was really remarkable. On social

900
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: media yeah, he's in sixty. I mean when you're twenty

901
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: sixties old, but hell when you're forty six sixties, forty

902
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: eight years away. And I mean he was he seemed

903
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: like he was always in good health when he was

904
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: around here. I know he had some issues. Yeah, Yeah,

905
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: I knew Way better. Y'all had to see me. I

906
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: played with Way, and I knew him better as a

907
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: coach when he was a quarterback. You know, I really

908
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't hanging the quarterbacks. But he was here. Yeah, and uh,

909
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: he was here as a coach what eight years um,

910
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: exact timing he had had a little break um, and

911
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: then he was here for a while, yeah, two thousand

912
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: and two thousand and two, and then he came back

913
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven to two thousand and seventeen. So

914
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: he was here twelve years, twelve years or two? What

915
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: was it? Kind of his his history there, Kurt, he's

916
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: playing born and raised in Texas, East Texas. Yeah, he

917
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: grew up in Commerce, Texas. Okay. Then he went to

918
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: in a in a I a school there which is

919
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: Texas Commerce now. And it was an all American there

920
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: and so yeah, just a little small time saying you

921
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: man school and went on a seventeen year career. We

922
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: worked out. We used to work and every now and

923
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: then he would work out and we will work out

924
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: in a training camp, you know, build up about five

925
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: thirty season o'clock, Haycom Wade, you know in the tent. Yeah.

926
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: Now we wouldn't be in the tent, will building in

927
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: the hotel. Oh yeah. He would always walk on the

928
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: trip on the StairMaster stairmasters. Yeah. So he would get

929
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: there early, get like a thirty minute I mean thirty

930
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: minute blow out he'd be. He'd be huffing and gone,

931
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he he's checking lad. And every

932
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: now and then I would ask him like something about

933
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: the team. Not often because you know, I like to

934
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: see for myself, but like, man, I'm kind of worried

935
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: about this. He would hey, no, that's good. Then he'll

936
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: be gone. Yeah. Hey, you know, so he was a

937
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: great man. I mean, like Miss Tay said, you know,

938
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: he was one of the big dack backers. The big

939
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: dack backers. Believe that. Yeah, and that ten times real

940
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: fast dack backers watch out, watch out. Yeah. Well, and

941
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, you guys remember at Valley Ranch, how we

942
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: would when we would work out. We'd sometimes go out

943
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: to the back of the fields. So I remember when

944
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: it first started, it was like, Okay, well I'm just

945
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: gonna go walk around the fields. And that's how I

946
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: got to know maryon Ellie as well as I did,

947
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: And that's how I got to know Coach Wilson and

948
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: Coach Pope. Walk the track, Yeah, Coach Pope, bar Old

949
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: tight Ends coach would walk the track too, but Coach

950
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Wilson was the only one, Like Marion Ellie had his

951
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: own thing. Sometimes he was out around Valley Ranch, you know,

952
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: out there, and then Coach Pope would just be doing

953
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: his things. He'd have his headphones and but Coach Wilson

954
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: would always just kind of talk to me about his

955
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: sons or like different things about just life. He was

956
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: very more broad thinking, it seemed in just our talks.

957
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: And he was a great guy. Called him sticks didn't

958
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: know nothing then he was. Yeah, when he first got here,

959
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: he was so thin. Man. What was his What was

960
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: his play in history? Because you played against him when

961
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: he was in Minnesota, right, because yeah, he spent ten

962
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: years in Minnesota where he was a pro bowler in

963
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: eighty eight. Yeah, and he had some good good years

964
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: there and then from that point on he was more

965
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: or less a backup. He went to Atlanta for one year.

966
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: He did start fourteen games for the Saints in ninety three.

967
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: I remember that because that's when I was back home

968
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: and I remember him playing for sure. I was reading

969
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys tried what year was that? Three? So what

970
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: what you know? I'm saying what you say. He lived

971
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: in like eight hundred different places, Yeah, but all in

972
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: the same city. Yeah, I never moved out of Monroe,

973
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: West Row. Okay, Now, I guess the Cowboys tried to

974
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: sign him then as a backup in ninety three, but

975
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: he had a chance to start with the Saints. We

976
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: went down there, spent a couple of years there, and

977
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: then he finished out his career wellnot take the bag.

978
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: He spent three years in Dallas's eightpens backup and then

979
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: spent one year in Oakland. Yeah. His funeral is this Friday.

980
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: The funeral service is at Park Citi's Baptist Church. I

981
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: think funeral services are open to the public, so that's

982
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: just whoever could go. But yeah, I'm sure it will

983
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: be attended by a lot of the people. We just

984
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: snammed off. Yeah, I'm positive almost, man, And it seems

985
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: like we just saw him in the training table like

986
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I know, it's when did when was

987
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: when it was his last season here as a coach?

988
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: It seventeen twenty seventeen. It was just this past year

989
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: and the two training camps ago he he didn't go

990
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: because he was having diabetes issues with his foot. He

991
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: showed up late. He showed up late and he had

992
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: the foot cast on, and I remember talking to him

993
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: about it and he just acted like, oh, yeah, don't

994
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: don't worry about this, like just kept a grain. But

995
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: if you talk to Kellen Moore too, I mean, Kellen

996
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: credits him a lot for letting him in that last

997
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: season kind of take over and learn and started basically

998
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: his coaching career while he was the backup. Yeah, wow,

999
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: what do you before we leave? What are your thoughts

1000
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: on we talked about it earlier? What are your thoughts

1001
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: on Kellen Moore as the new OC? I love Kellen Moore.

1002
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: I think he's great. Yeah, how you think he's gonna

1003
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: be as a as the OC? I think I think? Man,

1004
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a trap question because yeah,

1005
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: what I said was at first I wasn't excited about it,

1006
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: but then to hear Dak steph up and say, hey,

1007
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: I know, Nate laughed the whole time because he's like, this,

1008
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: this is what you feel. You don't know, you don't know,

1009
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: and like OC has much difference than quarterbacks coach is

1010
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach. I was like, that makes sense. He's

1011
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: super close with Arrett, he's super close with Dak in

1012
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: that room. They probably have great camaraderie. You know, he's

1013
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: working with a new guy, Mike White. Like I was

1014
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: really excited about that because he still had Lenahan as

1015
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: the general OC, but like, now he's gonna be holding

1016
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: huge offensive meetings and he's gonna have to figure out

1017
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: what he needs to do with tight ends, what he's

1018
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna need to do with a Marii Cooper, what do

1019
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: you like? It's just so much bigger and granted, oh no,

1020
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: you don't know, and you didn't know what you were

1021
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna give a Sean mcvagh because this is kind of

1022
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: the cowboys. But it's just when we see we see

1023
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Kellen in the lunch room, it's just very unassuming. Oh,

1024
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: it's just so over here. When he first got one

1025
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: of the guys thought he was like the equipment guy. Yeah,

1026
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: it's so funny to me because I grew up obviously

1027
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: watching him with Boys State and like he was a

1028
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: killer at boy Oh yeah, the field. So I was like,

1029
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: and then he takes his helmet off. He look, He's

1030
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: like idolized all over Poisy and basically Mountain West, just

1031
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: for what he did for college football and especially putting

1032
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: in a non Power five conference school up there like that.

1033
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious to see. You don't know until

1034
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: you see it. But he's got a lot of weapons.

1035
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: This was so funny that they you know, he went

1036
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: around the room asking that question. I just started laughing

1037
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: because we bought into the receiver by committee, you know,

1038
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: to a man and a woman. We bought into what

1039
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: you probably didn't. But I like, okay, I'm winning, I'm

1040
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: winning to try and ok see, let's see about the

1041
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: third week, I was like, oh my god, what have

1042
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: I bought it? Where I spend my money? But the

1043
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: thing is my answer to him was miss t was

1044
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: as long as it helps dad, I don't care. That's

1045
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: that's that's I believe. As long as it helps that

1046
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: and we'll only find out whenever you know what it

1047
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: can't because now you got kidna. Kidna is true true.

1048
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's still tall in the NFL for a

1049
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: long time. His relationship, his relationship with players, to everybody

1050
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Speaker 1: that listened to everybody, I said, what about love? Yeah,

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00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: so were you here whenever he was here at Valley Ranch. No,

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Speaker 1: But I've been to a couple of coaching clinics randomly

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00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: that he's been at, Like the cotton Ball hosted this

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00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: big high school coaches clinic and he was like the

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Speaker 1: lead of it. And he's just wildly intelligent for football,

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: just knows everything. But then the way that he was

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00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: talking to young high school guys and then you know,

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00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: professional athletes, it was pretty much all the same. Like

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: he was just able to connect with everybody. And he

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00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: was at a coaching clinic like two weeks ago and

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00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: someone posted this video of him talking about Romo's play.

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00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: It was incredible, just the way he can break it

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00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: down and kind of show what he needed to do.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought he was I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be great, it's gonna be interesting. So well, thanks Taylor,

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00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: that was a great Tay What Wade Wade Wilson will

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: miss you man sticks. So Kurt got anything to add

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here? No, it's rest in peace,

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: prayers to his family. Yeah, Nate anything. Why are you

1070
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: saying on me? I'm just saying we thank you, give

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: me some thank you for being here. I mean, if

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: you're not going to be here, miss t least give

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00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: us a week or two noticed, like you know, unlike

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00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: some other people in the last week when you guys

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00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: were just lone dogs, they got they got. Do you

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: think about Kurt's hair? I mean it's so long now

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: ye are you taking supplements that we are? Are you?

1078
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Are you? Or shampoo? A look? They makes him feel

1079
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: like we can't boo it first. It is maine and

1080
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: tail and look how dark it is. It's coming back

1081
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: darker take cover in the scoring. You man taking shots

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01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: that you can It's not shots like that. I know

1083
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: where I rank on this show. Shots of love. Those

1084
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: are good shots. It's not the hair is growing back.

1085
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: It's jealous. You don't wanted to capucin. He's like an

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: extra shot. I need a shot after this show during

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,479
Speaker 1: the show. I'm not drinking this week, so I can't

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: do one with you. You gotta go two weeks without

1089
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: drinking week? And what do you eat today? Me? Since

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01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: you own you dry, I don't know. You eat lunch

1091
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:50,959
Speaker 1: with a brat, diet bread, rice, rice, diet bananas? Yeah? Uh,

1092
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: rice apples toast for what's like to your stomach? Yeah,

1093
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: like when you can't keep anything down, that's what you eat?

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: All right, Shannon, Just just I'm drying out running the

1095
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: taco bell. I actually had taco bell last night and

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01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: then I had what a burger at ten thirty last night?

1097
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: My appetites coming back at least raising canes? Oh no,

1098
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: Nate wanting me to do that for lunch, dinner? Maybe dinner?

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Speaker 1: All right, Kurt, thanks for showing up. Man, Thanks guys, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it. Taylor, thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, coming on next week. Okay, birthday?

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Speaker 1: When's your birthday? Next Monday? Is it? How young are

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01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: you going to roll with? Twenty seven? That's a great age. Yeah,

1104
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: you're only twenty seven? Wow? Just think Wade that it

1105
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: was Waye's birthday too? Was it really Friday? It's the worst.

1106
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Just heartbreaking. Well, Douglas, thanks for hanging out with us. Hey,

1107
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: someone someone sent me a message you want to know

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: where they can find that. Is there anywhere on the

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01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: website or anywhere they can download that? You tweet that out, Douglas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to create a place where weekend drops give

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: drops to people. Maybe it'd be cool if we could

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Speaker 1: turn them into ringtones or something. Yeah, let's figure that out.

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Speaker 1: That'd be cool, can't Thanks for pushing the buttons, Presley,

1114
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: thanks for scheduling everything. Oh my god, they taking these

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Speaker 1: out the cutshots, so y'all, man, I was like, yay, Douglas,

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Speaker 1: Yeay Douglas, Yay Douglas. We will be back next Monday,

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Speaker 1: same time on Hagging with the Boys. This has been

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Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas

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