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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of This League, we discuss the shocking news,

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<v Speaker 1>as Marty would say, one of the worst hot seats ever.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about how the Clippers are basically like a

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<v Speaker 1>fine piece of china. We detail this year's most surprising team,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the New York Knicks. I just like calling

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers fine China, and we get back to answering

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<v Speaker 1>some more. Listener DMS Meyers Leonard saga. As everyone knows,

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<v Speaker 1>he got suspended during a Call of duty live stream

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<v Speaker 1>for saying an anti Semitic slur, leading him to get

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<v Speaker 1>fined and suspended by the league. He just was never

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to the Heat after that, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Miami traded him and a second round pick to OKC

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<v Speaker 1>for Trevor Ariza, and that brings immediate help to the Heat,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also got rid of a nightmare PR situation

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<v Speaker 1>for the team, and Miami does not like PR issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Does not solve an issue for Meyers Leonard because OKC

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<v Speaker 1>made it very clear as soon as he got traded,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not bringing him to the team. He will

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<v Speaker 1>never suit up in an Okay see jersey. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>even coming to the city. Like it's just we just

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<v Speaker 1>needed to match salaries and sorry, Meyers Leonard, you go

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<v Speaker 1>out of a job now. They said. Leonard will not

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<v Speaker 1>be an active part of the Thunder moving forward and

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<v Speaker 1>will not report to oka See. How toxic are you

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<v Speaker 1>that in a trade that amounts to an Aresa's salary dump.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay See immediately issued a press release that said that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that you just traded for will never ever

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<v Speaker 1>ever suit up for your team. Hey, folks, fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you want to know why we trade

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<v Speaker 1>for Meyers Leonard. It was just a formality. And the

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<v Speaker 1>craziest part was that Leonard had to wave his no

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<v Speaker 1>trade clause in his contract just to be traded to

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<v Speaker 1>a team that declared, no, we don't want him, not now,

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<v Speaker 1>not never, no way, no way. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That means that the Heat had too strong arm Meyers

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard into doing that, because if I was Meyers Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>be like, no, I'm not true, I'm not waving my

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<v Speaker 1>no trade clause. Who does that? And they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want you. Either we do this the easy

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<v Speaker 1>way or we do this the hard way. Kid in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft pick that the Heat sent to OKC, this

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<v Speaker 1>is great. A twenty twenty seven second rounder, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that they just took Meyer's letter contract in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>a mediocre eighth grader. That's crazy. The only funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>about this whole trade is that the OKC thunder now

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<v Speaker 1>have nineteen first round picks or swaps and sixteen second

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<v Speaker 1>round picks in the next seven years. Rumors are flying around, dirty, nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>unadulterated rumors. A team that's fifth in the West way

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<v Speaker 1>out performing their circumstances. They probably should be eleventh in

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<v Speaker 1>the West based on what's going on, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting players back healthy. And on the eve of CJ's return,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a bombshell story dropping that Yes, Terry Stotts

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<v Speaker 1>is rumored to be on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Say what, Yeah, I mean, like you said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really agree with it too much. I understand there's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>some issues with his defensive coaching and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think there's so few coaches in the league

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<v Speaker 2>that can win despite their circumstances, and he's proven to

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<v Speaker 2>be one. And I do think were he to were

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<v Speaker 2>he to be let go, he would be swooped up

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<v Speaker 2>insanely fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that that's right. That I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference Finals appearance speaks volumes about Terry Stott's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to use scrubs and turn them into something. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason is simple. The Blazers currently are scoring one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen points per game, and they're giving up more consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>They ranked twenty ninth in the league in team defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's not good. How bad is that

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<v Speaker 1>The Blazers one hundred and sixteen point three rating is

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<v Speaker 1>the third worst in the history of the NBA. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why that's so funny, but it's terrible, only

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<v Speaker 1>trailing the twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen Calves at one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen point six and this year's Sacramento Kings at

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred eighteen point eight. And if you think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is an anomaly, this is just a one off

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<v Speaker 1>in a pandemic year. They were twenty seventh in the

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<v Speaker 1>league last year. In Statt's career, he's ranked in the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom half in seven out of the nine years, and

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom quarter four times out of the nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's really interesting is this article. Jason Quick talks

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<v Speaker 1>about that the Blazers spend eighty five percent of their

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<v Speaker 1>film study and practice on just defense. Besides Tom Thibodeau,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of such a thing. Never. All of

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<v Speaker 1>this to say, Quick points out that there are rumblings

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<v Speaker 1>the ownership is unhappy and there is a tense backdrop

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<v Speaker 1>to his future in Portland. He's got one year left

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<v Speaker 1>on his deal, and it should be noted that the

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<v Speaker 1>Blazers did not pick up in extend Terry Stotts in

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<v Speaker 1>this last offseason. So yes, things are a little tense.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite his team outperforming in the bubble this year. If

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't fix the defense, there is a rumor that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a quote unquote really good chance that he

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<v Speaker 1>gets the boot. I like Terry Stotts. I do, so

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<v Speaker 1>does everybody else, Dame CJ. Nurk cancer all Rave reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question is, does Terry Stotts know anything about defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he know how to teach defense? Does he know

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<v Speaker 1>how to implement defense? If you spend eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of your time on anything and you're still second worst

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<v Speaker 1>in the league at that thing, maybe you're not any

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<v Speaker 1>good at that thing. That's something to evaluate. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Scotts's defensive ratings over time. He was twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>in the league and twenty twelve, sixteenth in the league

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty thirteenth. He's only had two good years in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen and twenty seventeen, twenty second in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth in the league, seven twenty seventh in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth in the league. Yikes. So the Blazers defense

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<v Speaker 1>is just trash as we know. But the good news

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<v Speaker 1>is what the Blazers can fucking score a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>points a ton. We are not just good at offense.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great and it's about to get even better

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<v Speaker 1>with CJ coming back. Harry Giles is coming back and

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<v Speaker 1>he can also play some defense, and within a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, Useuf Nurkic is coming back. If that man

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<v Speaker 1>can play tough, we will be a tough out. This

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<v Speaker 1>team is exciting. Marty Carmelo Anthony, Can we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Carmelo Anthony for a second? Jesus Christ, can we.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about him? Yeah? I want to talk about him.

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<v Speaker 1>On that game that I bet, I bet on the

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<v Speaker 1>Hornets and that was just a terrible, terrible bet. In

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<v Speaker 1>that game, he had twenty nine points, five steals, two

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<v Speaker 1>blocks in thirty minutes of action. Here's where I remind

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<v Speaker 1>you that he was left for dead, picked up for

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<v Speaker 1>table scraps, no one wanted him, and now he's averaging fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>three and two and can give you twenty on any night.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven times he scored twenty or more points this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Marty Carmelo Anthony could be our league

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Man of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be in the conversation. I think Clarkson

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<v Speaker 2>is playing too well and that team is playing two well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably the one that's gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, Mellow is doing what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people thought he would never be able or willing

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<v Speaker 2>to do. He adjusted to a role and he's adjusted

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<v Speaker 2>to it awesomely. And you know, maybe he needed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the entire league to call himselfish and criticize him like

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<v Speaker 2>that so that he realized that he needed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of change the way he plays, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he had. He doesn't look like Nix Carmelo at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. You know, Carmelo reminds me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of Tiger Woods Elite. At one point in time, massive

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<v Speaker 1>egos thought that they were a certain kind of player.

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<v Speaker 1>Father time got to them. Injuries obviously got to Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, the game gets snatched

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<v Speaker 1>away from them. And then when they're allowed to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>they come back a different, happier, more grateful player, just

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<v Speaker 1>outperforming what anybody would possibly think that they could end

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<v Speaker 1>up doing. And he's thirty seven and we got him.

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<v Speaker 1>Portland got him for two point six million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know Luke Canard, La Clippers wing guard combo

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<v Speaker 1>Esque is making almost ten times that amount Luke Cannard,

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<v Speaker 1>who's averaging six point seven points per game. What a steal.

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<v Speaker 1>Melo has played for four different teams in four years.

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<v Speaker 1>This crazy Nick's OKC Houston, Portland and the world. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Marty said, he would not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>accept a smaller role. Nbagm said, Carmelo, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>him on your bench because he's going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>play more than you can play him for your team's success.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just not a good look. And now what

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing is Mellow committed to this role that is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest, I would say, the biggest keys

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<v Speaker 1>to the Blazers winning games, especially when Dame goes cold. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when Dame has an off night, Melo just picks up

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<v Speaker 1>the slack. He is still a bucket at any given time,

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket five steals in a game. When did we

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<v Speaker 1>ever see Carmelo play defense like that? That was his knock, right?

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<v Speaker 1>He does not play defense?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yet? No, totally. I didn't watch that game. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how he came in those five steals, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's definitely a statue head scratcher for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have ever thought that the Blazers would have

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<v Speaker 1>a plethora of capable wings? Not me, not me. When

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<v Speaker 1>we had Evan Turner, I was like, can we just

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<v Speaker 1>get one wing? I was happy to have Trevor Ariza

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I was like, yeah, I mean he can

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<v Speaker 1>do something, he can defend. Now we've got Covey mellow Hood,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Jones Junior, and now there's a rumor that the

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<v Speaker 1>Blazers might go and get Aaron Gorton. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that improves the defensive problem quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like it. I kind of like that fit.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like that fit with good guard play

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<v Speaker 2>like that would open him up a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>and he's he's shooting better this year, I believe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if y'all could pull him. Yeah, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes us immediately in the mix. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's gonna happen, because the Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to get everyone. They've got a plethora of

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<v Speaker 1>assets and picks to trade. But all of that to

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<v Speaker 1>say the Blazers are gonna score. We've got problems on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive end, and unless they play so some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive scheme, the only path forward for them is

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<v Speaker 1>just to be the Western Conference Brooklyn Nuts. Just shoot

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<v Speaker 1>from everywhere, never miss, go fifty eight percent from three

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty nine percent from the field, score one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty in hoping your opponent doesn'tcore one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, which is exactly what happened Tuesday. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see that game where the Blazers beat your your boys

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<v Speaker 1>Pelicans down seventeen five minutes and fifty seconds left in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and the best clutch player in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>just took over, did not miss from two, did not

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<v Speaker 1>miss at all from two, did not miss a free throw.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. Three for five from three, three for three

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<v Speaker 1>from two, five or five from the free throw line

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<v Speaker 1>to assist three rebounds in the fourth quarter alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Those also the fourth quarter Pelicans attacking their known to

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<v Speaker 2>blileaves like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pelicans game, though, does underscore what I would consider

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem going forward. The Blazers in the last

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<v Speaker 1>five games have given up one hundred and twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>points per game during that same stretch, Nets have given

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<v Speaker 1>up one hundred and nine, So Nets defense shoring up

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<v Speaker 1>Blazer's defense becoming a sieve. So I'm worried. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just worried for the Blazers, Marty. I'm worried that if

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't get fixed, it might be time for a change. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Terry might have to go expensive, beautiful and highly fragile.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the Clippers. Yes, I am. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of news coming out that the Clippers having lost four

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<v Speaker 1>of seven, they got lit up by a bad loss

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<v Speaker 1>to the Pelicans, and Kawhi Leonard was very concerned. The

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<v Speaker 1>news is that he went on a rampage on his team,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just kind of impossible to imagine. Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi lnt As. I like to call him the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that has the least energy in the NBA, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that they literally make commercials about being a Cyborg is

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<v Speaker 1>telling teammates, listen up, guys, it's time. The time is now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he said. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>a motivational speech looks like from Kawhi Leonard, but I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it's like very monotone. It's like being lectured by

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<v Speaker 1>a tax accountant because you're just spending a little too free.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, his merch is in time. It's new Romans,

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<v Speaker 2>So that tells.

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<v Speaker 1>You everything exactly. So what did he say, Marty, What

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<v Speaker 1>was Kawhi's quote?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the quote was, I'm very concerned. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have it checks at anything. You've gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>consistent nights where energy is not there. It's all about consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what makes a team great.

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<v Speaker 1>That monotone, even if it was monotone and oppressor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's facts. When you don't feel like competing, you still

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<v Speaker 1>need to do what compete. Fucking compete every single night.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what your job is, and that's what Kawhi Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>does so well. I think that's the difference between mediocre

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<v Speaker 1>players and really really great players. Players that do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to play still show up and compete. Unlike Paul

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<v Speaker 1>George just gets cooked, cooked by Luca cooked. He fell

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<v Speaker 1>on his ass two nights ago, three times fell to

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<v Speaker 1>the ground anyway, just a pandemic. Pe became a trending

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<v Speaker 1>topic again last night. So I just felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>would bring that up. Clipper's very Clipper's very inconsistent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I am concerned. But the world says,

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<v Speaker 1>trist Everything's gonna be okay. This team has an amazing roster.

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<v Speaker 1>They can d up when they want to. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>Paul George and Nebaka and Kawhi Leonard, and when they're great,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really really great. When Kuhi and PG are clicking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy. They have a net rating of plus

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and a half, which is the best in the

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<v Speaker 1>league among duos who have played five hundred or more

0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes together. That's crazy. When they're clicking, they're clicking. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, they're gonna figure it out. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we said last year. We just assumed that just

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<v Speaker 1>because you have these pieces, that everything's just gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>out on its own. That's not how it works, just facts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not how it happened. Remember what ended up

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<v Speaker 1>happening was like, Oh, yeah, it's fine, it's fine, They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the Western Conference. Who knows, whoever comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of the West is gonna win it all. Blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And then you had pandemic pe hitting

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<v Speaker 1>off the sideboard, blowing a three to win lead, not

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<v Speaker 1>scoring at all in the fourth quarter. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just can't say that things are gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think I'm just a little bit cynical, Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>because the world and the media tells me I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fine, when everything that I see and read tells

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<v Speaker 1>me things are not gonna be fine. I'm sorry. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather be a pessimist and be wrong than being optimist

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<v Speaker 1>and be disappointed, because there are real problems. Lou Williams

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great six men in the league's thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and his production just fell off a cliff. He went

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<v Speaker 1>from eighteen three and six to twelve two and four. Yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they decided they were gonna pay this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Canard casual fans do not know him, do not

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<v Speaker 1>know him. He was on the Detroit Pistons had half

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<v Speaker 1>of a good year and then the Clipper said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll pay a twenty million a.

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<v Speaker 2>Year come to la which was so weird because they

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<v Speaker 2>traded for him and he had one more year left

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<v Speaker 2>on his deal and they decided to just extend him.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would they do That's it?

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<v Speaker 2>They figured he was going to outperform it and be

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<v Speaker 2>worth more. But that was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very wrong. Here's the thing. You're on the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Pistons. Your production should be fucking high. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a contender, your production is going to fall

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<v Speaker 1>off of a cliff. Why would you pay that man

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<v Speaker 1>twenty plus million dollars a year. That's gotta be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the dumbest decisions that Jerry West has ever made

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<v Speaker 1>in his fucking life. He's a very very smart guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very very dumb uncharacteristic by Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody thought it was a good idea when it happened either.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Patrick Beverley has banged up Reggie Jackson. Is

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie Jackson also another former Piston And you know no

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<v Speaker 1>wonder that the Clippers are in the market for a

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<v Speaker 1>new point guard. The problem is the guy that they want,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry, makes thirty mili a year, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy is Terry Rosier, who's locked in for next year

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<v Speaker 1>and is like making very very little money. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are the Clippers going to get or what are they

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get and what are they gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to give? I don't think they have any

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<v Speaker 1>assets or any picks since they mortgage their entire future

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<v Speaker 1>for Paul George.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they certainly don't have any draft backs too.

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<v Speaker 1>No, how can you possibly make a trade enticing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Charlotte Hornets to give you Terry Rozier? I'm what

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<v Speaker 1>are you? What are you gonna do? Like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give Terrence Man, Jay Scrubb and a twenty eight twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight twenty twenty ninth first round pick, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just never gonna have draft picks until like two administrations

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<v Speaker 1>from now. Get the fuck out of here. They also

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<v Speaker 1>are targeting George Hill, but George Hill's production is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same as Lou Williams. So I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>you would do that. No easy answers when you've already

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<v Speaker 1>emptied the cupboard. So it appears that the roster is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go into the playoffs exactly the same way

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<v Speaker 1>as it is right now, and the West is a gunfight.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's better. Portland, Utah, Phoenix, New Orleans, all of those

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<v Speaker 1>teams are much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say, oh, yeah, certainly, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Portland, Utah, Phoenix, New Orleans all could beat the Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>in a seven game series. I would say it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Not saying it's going to happen, but it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans is the one team out of those that

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't bet on at.

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<v Speaker 1>All, but yeah, the one thing. But they did blow

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<v Speaker 1>out the Clippers. That's a matchup problem, matchup problem. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that's different though from last year is that

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<v Speaker 1>they have a Baca instead of Montrez Harrel and Abaka

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<v Speaker 1>is the only guy that makes Kawhi Leonard laugh. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only guy now. Apparently there's a new ESPN story

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<v Speaker 1>out that Sergia Bacha's presence on the Clippers. Now Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard is smiling and laughing in front of everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>a team that was embroiled in controversy over chemistry issues,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got Kawhi Leonard being the vocal leader, standing

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<v Speaker 1>on top of a bench and being like the time

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<v Speaker 1>is now or whatever he said, and you've got him

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<v Speaker 1>laughing and smiling and joking and joking about trading Abaca

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<v Speaker 1>and putting him on the trade block when he ends

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<v Speaker 1>up elbowing him in the face, and like we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a new version of the claw, maybe like comic sans

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<v Speaker 1>version and sometimes do Roman right. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Chemistry is big, and you've got ty Lu

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<v Speaker 1>another chemistry guy. I would be if I was a

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<v Speaker 1>Clipper fan, That's the only reason I would be encouraged.

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And of course because you got Kawhi Leonard. So the

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<v Speaker 1>world is going to say, Trista, why are you so negative?

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers are gonna be fine? What if they're not?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a conclusion that Kawhi Leonard is going

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<v Speaker 1>to resign there, It's just not. I hear rumblings from

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Perkins that if Kawhi doesn't win a title this year,

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't re signing. The Knicks are hard rock, they

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<v Speaker 1>really are. I am so proud of what Tom Thibodeau

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<v Speaker 1>has done with this team. It's crazy. It's crazy, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? It sounds impossible to say, but are the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Knicks not just a playoff team? But a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous out. Are they dangerous? They seem a little dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>to me here and there with Derrick Rose, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in that category now where it's they're the team

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<v Speaker 2>that no what he wants to play, which when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at what the Knicks have been, that's an insane upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, insane. You saw the Knicks without Derrick Rose

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<v Speaker 1>take the Nets and then the Sixers to the brink. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, folks that the Nets were missing pieces and

0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.399
<v Speaker 1>also the Sixers were missing mbeat. That's fine, but still

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<v Speaker 1>this is a team that should have been in prior years,

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>probably blown out by twenty five. So along with the

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Hornets, this is a team that would, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was them, scare the shit out of me. They have

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<v Speaker 1>exciting young players, they've got veteran leadership and Tibbs at

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<v Speaker 1>the helm. You know that they're just this team defensively

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.399
<v Speaker 1>as hard as nils. Did you see Marty Julius Randall

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<v Speaker 1>try to fight the entire Brooklyn Nets team at all

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.080
<v Speaker 1>at the same time and a referee?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did see clips of that. Yeah I love

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<v Speaker 2>Randall me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this all goes back to Tibbs and

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<v Speaker 1>the trade for Derrick Rose. Who would have thought that

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 1>reuniting the Timber Bowls in Madison Square Garden would pay dividends?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, No, it seems like d Rose only gets

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<v Speaker 2>up to play for Thibodeau. You know, that's where he's

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 2>had his only good years in the league, is being

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.640
<v Speaker 2>coached by him. Even in Minnesota, he actually played pretty well,

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<v Speaker 2>and since his addition, they've been consistently I think a

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<v Speaker 2>more cohesive unit for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think the young guys are getting something

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<v Speaker 1>out of them right yeah quickly and RJ. Barrett both

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.679
<v Speaker 1>have credited their production increases to the d Rose arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see this coming, and I don't think anyone

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.919
<v Speaker 1>saw this coming except for Nate Robinson. He told me

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone could fix the Knicks culture, it's Tibbs, and

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I laughed, Yes, I did. I thought it was hilarious.

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually rolled my eyes. Like I said, I am

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a cynic. I don't believe that anything is gonna change

0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>until you show me it's gonna change. Because everybody wants

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.199
<v Speaker 1>to make moves. Then they tell you that that's the

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.879
<v Speaker 1>panacea for whatever. The team, the organization, the business, moving forward.

0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I just don't believe people when

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.439
<v Speaker 1>they tell me lies. I've been lied to enough. And

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 1>of course you've got James Dolan. So as long as

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you have James Dolan, I do not trust anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>this team is gritty as fuck. They are wearing teams

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>down Tibbs's m O, which is very true. Whenever you

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>watch a Knixt game, it's like this beautifully ugly, Like

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we're just afraid of running suicides tomorrow, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>everyone up, even if we're so gas that we break

0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>every shot on the other side. Like that's that's Tom

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Thibodeau's team right there. And this roster does all of that.

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Julius Randall having a breakout season, but Emmanuel Quickly is

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.159
<v Speaker 1>probably one of the big reasons, besides Derrick Rose, that

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>things have turned around. He's when he's starting, He's averaging

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.159
<v Speaker 1>thirteen two and two as a rookie, and his production

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>is just increasing every single week, averaging eighteen three and

0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 1>two in the last eight games. Wow. But they're also

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 1>making moves. Did you see that they're looking to get

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 1>either Victor Oladipo, Lonzo Ball or JJ Ruddick.

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I really like the idea of Ola depot. I don't

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 2>think Lonzo's going anywhere, but yeah, I mean jj'd be good. Yeah,

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean they definitely need shooters like that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if they could somehow pull any of those guys that

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<v Speaker 2>be sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, this is a fascinating, fascinating team.

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Even if they stay pat and of course they're not

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>trading Randall, They're gonna be a heart out for anyone.

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Barrett's playing some of the best ball of his career.

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>De Rose rejuvenated, as I said, And if the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>can find a way to just keep James Dolan in

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>his idiot MSG staff from fucking up the vibe the Knicks.

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>The Knicks nets is the ultimate for the first round

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Knicks Nets, MSG and Barclays. Holy fuck, would we be

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in for a rye?

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of the PJ. Tucker trade?

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Man, I'll tell you what. There is nothing I

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.919
<v Speaker 1>like more than the world telling me I'm wrong and

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>me being right. Every One in the NBA. Seventy percent

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of the NBA was calling about PJ. Tucker. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he was washed, why would twenty out of the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>teams won him on the team I don't know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am excited for PJ. He has a new fresh start.

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<v Speaker 1>The big move is that PJ. Tucker is now to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks. I told you he was in big demand.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bucks gave up DJ Augustine, DJ Wilson, a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of DJs and their twenty twenty three number ones for

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<v Speaker 1>PJ and Rodion Kuruz and a twenty twenty two first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. I mean, I knew he was out, he

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<v Speaker 1>was on his way out when he just stopped playing.

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<v Speaker 1>He told Steven Silas, Yeah, I know you thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna suit up, but I'm not gonna suit up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that is a that's a thing. I think PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker is a player that provides you. Like I said before, toughness, corner,

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<v Speaker 1>three point shooting, he is valuable. He's three and D

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<v Speaker 1>undersized hard rock, which is also very very valuable. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hert rocks in the league. Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 1>only shooting thirty one point four percent from three, which

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<v Speaker 1>is his worse since twenty twelve, but it might just

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<v Speaker 1>be because he's playing on the Rockets. That's probably that

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<v Speaker 1>are probably gonna lose twenty five games in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>So Celtics fans went insane when I suggested that PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker should come to the Celtics and then they should

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<v Speaker 1>move Marcus Smart out and get somebody like Harrison Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a pick in. And everybody's like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about basketball. You know what. The Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>and the Celtics are in the same boat. And now

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks did what the Celtics didn't have the furtitude

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Get another dangerous piece to get you over

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<v Speaker 1>the hump, get you another hard rock piece. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of those teams just got a lot tougher, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more dangerous, and the other is Boston. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this. If the Celtics don't go as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bucks in the playoffs, do not come at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Blame Danny Ainge, Blame Brad Stevens, and put some respect

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<v Speaker 1>on PJ. Tucker's name. All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, next up, we have what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the rumors of Lonzo Ball going to the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Knicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Woh, we talked about this a little earlier, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's possible. Romelo is the bellow of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the NBA. It's easy to overlook Lonzo after all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and most of the time that you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about him is always in trade discussions. The latest is

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<v Speaker 1>that the New York Knicks are hot on the Lonzo

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<v Speaker 1>ball trail, if not before the deadline, then during free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. The Pelicans don't want to trade

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo right now. Their offense is number one in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA in the past month, and Lonzo, now in this

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<v Speaker 1>new system, is finally playing to the level that people

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<v Speaker 1>thought he could under Van Gundy. The Pelicans' role in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pelicans style is to limit We talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of shows ago. Limit turnovers, offensive rebound, push

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the pace and then move the ball quickly. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you give point zion getting Lonzo off the ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>he is shooting tremendously thirty nine percent from three. He

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<v Speaker 1>has more made threes than Trey Young, Luca Jason Tatum,

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, and Lebron James and a higher

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<v Speaker 1>three point percentage than those players. That is insane. So

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<v Speaker 1>Lonzo's a restricted free agent. The Pels wouldn't sign him

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<v Speaker 1>on a contract extension. Maybe his upt play means that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll get an extension now, but Leon Rose is very

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<v Speaker 1>very high on him. I like that move. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means for Derick Rose, but I like

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<v Speaker 1>that move. Bobby Marks of ESPN wrote that the New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans would not match any offer that goes above eighteen million,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's likely what the Knicks will offer him, but

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<v Speaker 1>for this year, I don't see it happening. All right.

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