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Speaker 1: in to a news breaking version of One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: here on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: and uh, Steve, as much as I'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: about your Adirondack outdoor winter camping trip with a Lean

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Speaker 1: today at the NFL owners meetings. The G four Stadium

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Speaker 1: effort today, which in essence will be a two hundred

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Speaker 1: new stadium. So that was a hurdle that was cleared

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Speaker 1: and was thought to be largely a formality, So that

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Speaker 1: vice president, Ron Ricuia, that a memorandum of understanding has

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Speaker 1: And she announced that amount at six hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 1: brand new stadium, Yes, big and I and you know

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Speaker 1: imagine as I heard Poland Cars talk today and Riccoulia

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Speaker 1: least starting in twenty twenty six. And that's that's big.

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Speaker 1: And certainly the amount of money and how it's divvied

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Speaker 1: up for the total bill is really offset a lot

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Speaker 1: by the fact that ECC that land is just there

431
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Speaker 1: and the place where a lot of people park, and

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Speaker 1: you can just put the stadium there and just keep

433
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Speaker 1: on trucking. You don't have to. This isn't like the

434
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Speaker 1: five billion dollar development project in Los Angeles, because that

435
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Speaker 1: land itself was worth billions. Forget about the stadium structure.

436
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: So because of all that and because of the cost

437
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Speaker 1: effective nature of it and all the hoops that they

438
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Speaker 1: jumped through up to this point, and Brownie and I know,

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Speaker 1: and most people realize they've been working on this for

440
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Speaker 1: five years already, and you know, it took them this

441
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: long to get this far. That's you know. So I

442
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: think all sides have said, man, they are excited about

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Speaker 1: how it turned out and ready to move forward. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's a huge plus. So I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Bob. I think it's it does spell good

446
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Speaker 1: things for this region, for the team, for the league.

447
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: The league is growing exponentially, and to get on at

448
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Speaker 1: the point right now, to jump on the crest of

449
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: that wave that the NFL is growing so fast on

450
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: for the Bills is a great thing. Back to the

451
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Speaker 1: phones into Matt in cheek to Wagan next, what do

452
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Speaker 1: you got first, Matt, Good afternoon. I'm seventy nine, So

453
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: I go back to the Bills when they first opened up.

454
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Speaker 1: But the current stadium, I'm gonna hate to see it

455
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: torn down. I'm gonna love to see the new one.

456
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: But the current one was first game was There's August seventeenth,

457
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, the seven to one that morning, how

458
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: the children's hospital watching my son being born at seven

459
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: o'clock that night, I was at the game handing out cigars.

460
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Speaker 1: I have on video the first opening kickoff, which was

461
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Speaker 1: played to Washington Redskins put up a name Milaukee minded

462
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Speaker 1: back the opening kickoff for a touchdown. I didn't video

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Speaker 1: tape anymore after after the first opening thing. So I

464
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Speaker 1: am sad to see it being torn down, but I'm

465
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Speaker 1: glad it is because we need something new. So I

466
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Speaker 1: always have fine memories of the old rich Stadium, all right,

467
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Speaker 1: I appreciate those me too, Me too, Matt. I've got

468
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Speaker 1: a lot of great stadium memories of that stadium. But

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Speaker 1: also on a on another note, Um, you're right, Um,

470
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Speaker 1: it's it is going to be sad to see. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this. Ron just said, is

472
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Speaker 1: the old stadium gonna be torn down? He said, we

473
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: have some ideas for that, right. I wasn't an unequivocal yes,

474
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Speaker 1: paring it down? Right? Maybe that yeah, who knows, who knows,

475
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Speaker 1: But that's a wait and see. I think the twenty

476
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth thing. And this is interesting to me because

477
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Speaker 1: we always heard and even when when Ralph Wilson was

478
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Speaker 1: the owner, how about you know, they it's a problem.

479
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: It's a concrete stadium with an upper deck that is

480
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Speaker 1: out in the weather in Buffalo year year, year after

481
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: year after year. It's it's turning got rickety and they

482
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: you know that. You can see on some of the

483
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: play where they've slapped steal up on it to make

484
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Speaker 1: sure it stands up. And the engineers have time and

485
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Speaker 1: time again put a limit lifetime, you know, a life

486
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Speaker 1: expectant operation ys an expression date. It's twenty twenty six,

487
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Speaker 1: and whether they can stay in it another year or

488
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: not remains to be seen after that. So it was

489
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: this was necessary. It was front and center. It was

490
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: on the front burner of the franchise to get it going.

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Speaker 1: And today, like I said that, the analogy I've used

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Speaker 1: as the Boulders are now the foundational Boulders for the

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Speaker 1: New York New York State, Erie County. The Buffalo Bills,

494
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Speaker 1: and the National Football League are all in concert to

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Speaker 1: make it happen. Let's go to Tom and Amhurst next, Tom,

496
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Speaker 1: what do you have for us on One Bill's Life? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I like to talk about the seating. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see its seventy two thousand seatings. It would be more

499
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Speaker 1: affordable for the fans. Oh, we could put something. You

500
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Speaker 1: don't you just sit stating the fact that's the stadium's

501
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: about fifty years old, you know, having problems with that

502
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: with a upper deck, well fifty years from the album

503
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Speaker 1: once always put in our stadium, right original one? Yeah? Tom, Yeah,

504
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: they could Actually it's a good point. But Tom, how

505
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: you know it's hard to sell out a seventy thousand

506
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: seat stadium when I played. You know, the Buffalo Bills

507
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: during the decade of nineteen ninety through nineteen ninety nine

508
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: won more games than any franchise in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: How many games? What percentage of games do you think

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Speaker 1: they sold out? Tom dropped off there, So Brownie, what

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Speaker 1: do you think? No, I know they were still getting

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Speaker 1: games blacked out in the nineties. I remember, Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the percentage is, do you? Yeah? Yeah, sixty? Okay,

514
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: so it'll sell it out and I will. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: on top of that, and Ron Riculia actually addressed this

516
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Speaker 1: in our q anda on Buffalo bills dot com. As

517
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Speaker 1: to the capacity, you heard, you've seen reports that it's

518
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Speaker 1: going to be between sixty and sixty two thousand. There's

519
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Speaker 1: been reports of like standing room only are is We

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll have to wait for the renderings to

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Speaker 1: come out. But in terms of the capacity, what Ron

522
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: told us, and you can read this on Buffalo bills

523
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: dot com under the story what Bills fans need to

524
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: know about the New Bills Stadium project. He said, most

525
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: every new stadium that's been built, not just in football

526
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: but throughout all of sports has reduced capacity. The reason

527
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Speaker 1: for reduced capacity is to create a better in venue experience,

528
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Speaker 1: which means bigger seats, larger concourses, and more intimacy. All

529
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Speaker 1: those things are critical for the newer stadiums of today,

530
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Speaker 1: and to do that, you know, to give you more

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Speaker 1: leg room if you're a big you know what I mean.

532
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Speaker 1: All that stuff is to reduce the capacity, the number

533
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Speaker 1: of seats. The amenities that fans have told the bills

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Speaker 1: they want in a new stadium in focus groups and

535
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: surveys that they've done over these last several years, have

536
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Speaker 1: basically said they want more temperature controlled spaces, more variety

537
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Speaker 1: on food and beverage, more gathering spaces where they can

538
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Speaker 1: congregate together. All of that translates to a bigger facility,

539
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: but it also translates to lower capacities. Hard to germs

540
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Speaker 1: in the number of seats. It's hard to get thousands

541
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Speaker 1: of people as close to the action as you can

542
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Speaker 1: when each person has a set little space. But it's

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00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: a bigger seat and more leg rooms. So it just

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00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: it's you know, you can everybody can see that point

545
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: taking place. That's what people wanted, So yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to have thousands of thousands of people. But

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna make it comfortable for all those people

548
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: to be in the stadium, the stadium becomes so great

549
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: that the back rows are half mile away. Yeah right,

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00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: So you don't want that, and instead you've seen in

551
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: the newer stadiums these congregation pavilion areas, Like in the

552
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Speaker 1: Tampa Stadium, they've got the big Pirate ship in the back.

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00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: There's a big congregation area where fans can stand in

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Speaker 1: congregation just watch the game from there while they're waiting

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00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: in line to get a drink. Or even at the

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Speaker 1: other end zone, they've got a congregation area. The New

557
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: England Stadium has that. Swing's got a tennis Tennessee's got

558
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: that at the far end where you've got a big platte.

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00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: It's just a big area, concrete area out there with

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Speaker 1: and they've got you know, Tennessee's got a little downtown

561
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Nashville back there built up with food concessions and stuff.

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00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Just stuff like that. Dallas's Indie, that's what it's. This

563
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: stadium's gonna look like something like that. You're gonna have

564
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: places out there like the like under the Administration building nowadays,

565
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: there's a big open bar there. That's but it's just

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00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: too small for now, right, So and you can't see

567
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: the field from there, right. So it's all of this

568
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: stuff that's going to go into the considerations of what

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Speaker 1: the next place is gonna look like. And while it

570
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: may be smaller seating, there's also gonna be standing room

571
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: only seats in this new stadium. That kind of stuff.

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00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: But it's you know this, We're all it's gonna great,

573
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Speaker 1: We're all gonna love it when it's up. We got

574
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Speaker 1: a long way to go. They have listened to the

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Speaker 1: most logical and vocal and common sensical suggestions from the

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Speaker 1: fans through like you said, Brownie focus groups, huge surveys

577
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: that were sent out, all of the stuff that has

578
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: gone into other stadiums as well, and populous. The architecture

579
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: group that puts the stadium together is one of the

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00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: best on the planet. So it's gonna be a lot

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: of fun. And the next real target date is September first,

582
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Speaker 1: when maybe all of these agreements, all these agreements are

583
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: ironed out, assigned, and then they can move forward. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably what one of the things we'll

585
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: ask Ron Riculia when he comes in tomorrow on the show.

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00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: Is okay, So September first comes and goes, what's next. Yeah,

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00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: we have to take a break here, but we'll take

588
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls when we return. As step

589
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: one in the Bills new stadium project has been accomplished,

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00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: memorandum of understanding with the state in the county and

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00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: the Bills for that matter, and the G four funding

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Speaker 1: from the NFL for the Bills new stadium project, We're

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Speaker 1: here to discuss it with you next. More of your

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Speaker 1: phone calls coming your way here on One Bill Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

597
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: with you here on a Monday with big news about

598
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Speaker 1: the future home of the Buffalo Bills. As a memorandum

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00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: of understanding with New York State and Erie County along

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00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: with the Bills for funding from the state in the

601
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: county has been signed off on for a new stadium project,

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Speaker 1: and then the League ownership at the owner's meetings down

603
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach, Florida, today approved the G four funding,

604
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Speaker 1: which is the stadium funding arm of the League to

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00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: provide monies for stadium, new stadium construction. So that was

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Speaker 1: approved on behalf of the bills new stadium project as well.

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Speaker 1: You let us know what you think about it. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three fifty one eighty two, five fifty and we

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Speaker 1: go back to the phones now and we go to

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Speaker 1: Joe on a sell Joe, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: You're on one bills live him. Obviously, it's a great

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00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: day in terms of the announcement of the building of

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Speaker 1: the new stadium. Out of question if you can't answer it,

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00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: and maybe you could ask Ron McCulla tomorrow. Yeah, I'm

615
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: trying to figure when we built the last stadium was

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: paid for I think entirely by the county. It was

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Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars. This one now is a partnership.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering with the respect to the Pucula's equity investment.

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Speaker 1: I understand the G four, but I don't understand frankly,

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Speaker 1: how they're not going to be entitled to the stadium

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Speaker 1: then that can own it. The County's going to own it, correct,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering how they get their money back.

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Speaker 1: It's their equity. And if you don't know, if I understand,

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious if any insight into it. Well, I

625
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything that I don't. I don't know any

626
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: of this, Joe, But I can only only make assumptions

627
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: about the running a profitable business first and foremost. And

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00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: now they have a location to do that. Now they

629
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: have a location to make it even more profitable. The

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: entity that they bought eight nine years ago now has

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Speaker 1: a crew. Yeah, it's worth appreciated, and maybe it's appreciated

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: at least right you'd think it's worth more than what

633
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: they paid for it, even though at the time, I

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00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: think there's no question they got more than they thought

635
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: they were going to get for this team. Um, there

636
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: were people standing in line to buy it and they

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00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 1: and Terry Pogoula just outbid them. That's the way it works.

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00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: So they're They're reasons for making the investment that they're

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00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: making are no question, financial, no question, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and everything's negotiated. So how how good it gets for

641
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: them depends on how they negotiated these deals and going forward.

642
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: But the club is profitable and that is the bottom line,

643
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: which way allows other you know, the state and the

644
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: county and any anyone else in the NFL even to

645
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: come in and say, yeah, we'll loan you the money

646
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: you're making all kinds of it. Let's let's go. So

647
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: but they are on the hook for the NFL money, right.

648
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: The two hundred million dollars coming from the G four

649
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: Stadium project arm of the league is a loan. Usually

650
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: most of that is seen as a forgivable loan, and

651
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: then the rest is paid back through visiting gate revenues.

652
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: And when the Bills are the visiting team, their gate

653
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: revenue goes towards paying back the G four loan, right,

654
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: and that's done over the course of you know, a

655
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: couple of twenty five twenty five years, so they're going

656
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: to be paying on it for a long time. So

657
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: that means, you know, right now, by if you just

658
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: pencil it in, it looks like they're on the hook

659
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: for what five hundred over five hundreds, it's almost five

660
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. Yeah, if they pay that

661
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: whole G four loan back, which usually doesn't happen at

662
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: face value, you know they're at three hundred and fifty

663
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: million that they're putting into the project, and then you

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: know you have the other two hundred from the League,

665
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: and then it's six hundred from the state, two hundred

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: and fifty from Erie County. So the bills are Kim

667
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: and Terry are on the hook for almost as much

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00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: as the State of New York is. And and I'll

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00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: say that the reason they may not have to pay

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00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: back the only reason they may not have to pay

671
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: back that the only reason is because all the other

672
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: teams get loans too, for renovations, for upgrades, for all

673
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: this other stuff, and so that you know, when everybody

674
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: owes everybody else, you kind of wash it out, you

675
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. So and plus other circumstances

676
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: that pop up as well. So you know, that's the

677
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: only reason they wouldn't be on the hook for it,

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: in my estimation. Back to the phones and to Larry

679
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: and Lockport, we go, what do you have first, Larry, oh, guy, guys,

680
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: most one time, most now and watch or your program

681
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: and enjoy it. And I made a couple of questions

682
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: about a couple of comments, and the question first of all,

683
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: and we had to see that it looks like it's

684
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: going to go through. Well we never know till the end,

685
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: but hopefully it's going to go through. And the one

686
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: thing that I never hear anybody talking about that there

687
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: is only one NFL team in New York State, and

688
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: I would think that the state would be wanting to

689
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: do something here because the other two teams are in

690
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and if I got another one, then if

691
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: you can kind of go ahead. The other thing is

692
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: when visiting players come in. It seems like I've heard

693
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: over the years that they pay taxes when they on

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00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: their salary for a game and away from their home.

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: Is correct? That a fact? You know for sure? Whatever?

696
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: And I know it for an absolute fact. Yeah, thanks, Larry,

697
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. Yes, it is an absolute fact.

698
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Steve can speak experienced. I would some more than others.

699
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: I would put in tax returns given year for New

700
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: York obviously New York State because I live here, Pennsylvania, California, Uh, Colorado,

701
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: any place where you know, Kansas, pick an NFL city

702
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: the only ones I didn't get tax. And it here's

703
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: the thing. If I played the game in Miami, no

704
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: state tax in Florida, it doesn't matter because whatever stack

705
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: the difference between the state tax and the game where

706
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: we played in New York State, I still paid New

707
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: York state so if I if we played the game

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00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: in Miami, or if let's say, uh, Missouri, the Kansas

709
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. So I played the game in Missouri, I

710
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: gotta play Missouri state. This just in their state taxes

711
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: are way lower than ours, which is, hey, you think, hey,

712
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: that's a break for me. Not so fast. New York

713
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: gets the difference between the two. Yeah, it's funny because

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00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: I pay the same amount of state taxes to New

715
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: York as if it was here. But wherever I get

716
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: that game, that state gets whatever cut they get. The

717
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: funny thing about that is as an NFL employee and

718
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: traveling to a lot of the away games with the

719
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: team to cover the team, I would get hit with

720
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: tax bills from all these municipalities. I'm like, you got

721
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: the wrong guy, dude, I'm not making player player money here,

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00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: And so I would, but I would still have to

723
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: file because they sent me a notice. I would still

724
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: have to file. And then the funny thing is they'd

725
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: owed me like six bucks, or they'd owed me eight dollars,

726
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, all right, who's laughing now, buddy, Right,

727
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: you get these checks for like seven dollars and sixty

728
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: two cents I wouldn't. You guys wouldn't. So, yes, it

729
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: is the case. So when so when the Raiders come

730
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: into town or Miami come into town, they nicked that

731
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: team for state act on that game check. So you

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00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: got a guy making twenty five million dollars a year.

733
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: Think about it. He pays more in taxes off his

734
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: game check than most regular regular New York State citizens

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00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: do on their entire year. So yeah, it's big, it's considerable.

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00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: And having those teams come in and nicking them for

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00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: state tax it's a it's a big nut. Yeah, So

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00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I under completely understood Larry's argument about

739
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: being the only team in New York State. And there's

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00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: incentive there obviously because the other two teams play in

741
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey obviously, so to get a new stadium deal

742
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: done with the Bills as the only New York state

743
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: NFL team, it's it was kind of a high priority.

744
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: And I paid Jersey state taxes too. There you go.

745
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: So all that, we have to take a break here,

746
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: But more of your phone calls coming up next, Bob

747
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: and Amherst Mark and West Seneca and Lancaster. Hank tight

748
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: will get to you. We return here on One Bills

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00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

751
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: with you and Bill Stadium News. Basically, we haven't taken

752
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: the time to read the statement from Kim and Terry

753
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Pugoula on the Bill's new stadium project. They said, quote,

754
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: we took another step today to solidify our collective goal

755
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: of constructing a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills in

756
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. We're grateful for the time, efforts, and unwavering

757
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: commitment made by Governor Hokel and her team throughout the process.

758
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: While there are more hurdles to clear before getting to

759
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: the finish line, we feel our public private partnership between

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00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: New York State Erie County, led by County Executive Mark

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00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Colon Cars in the National Football League will get us there.

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00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: We're taking your phone calls at eight O three five

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00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: fifty and we go out to Bob in Amherst. Bob,

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00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: what do you have? First? Hi, Christ and Steve the

765
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: first I'd love to know the demographics that listened to

766
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: the show, and it's kind of funny how everybody remembers

767
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: the opening of the old Rich Stadium, it's kind of

768
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: neat um. But yeah, I think the fit the nail

769
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: on the head when he was talking about the Soldier

770
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 1: field and when the fans walked into when they walked

771
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: into that stadium, how they just went wow. And I

772
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: can remember going into Rich Stadium for the first time.

773
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: It was the Washington Redskins. It was a it was

774
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: a preseason game and it was the first game at

775
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: the stadium and I was with my father and my grandfather,

776
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: and I can remember my grandfather saying when when we

777
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't get there in the middle of the first quarter

778
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: because the traffic was saying but my grandfather said, oh

779
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: my god, look it, there's a concession stand every five.

780
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so neat and it was like wow.

781
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: And I think the same thing is going to happen

782
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: when Miss Stadium opened, and you know, it's it's something

783
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: to look forward to. It's going to be great, Yeah,

784
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: no question about it. And I think momentum for that

785
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: anticipation will will build as people drive by and see

786
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: the progress. Uh, And that's that is exciting. And you know,

787
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: as Ron Ricuia said, the executive vice president for PSC

788
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: and the bills. You know, he said, this is just

789
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: the first step. We got more hurdles to clear. A

790
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: lot of long form agreements to come, not only on

791
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: the existing lease but the new one for the new stadium,

792
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: among other things. So still hurdles to clear, but but

793
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: things are certainly moving in a positive direction and that's

794
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: what's so encouraging. Um let's get back to the phones.

795
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: We're going to Mark in West Seneca. What do you

796
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: got first, Mark, gentlemen, how are you a good guess? Huh? Sure,

797
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: take it right, Yeah, we'll take it. Hey, anything that

798
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: keeps that team here will take it. I guess I

799
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: got a couple observations and a concern whatever, and I'm

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00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: going to run through these things real quick because they're

801
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: no times limited, and then you guys can comment on

802
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: whatever you want. A first Steve, I love you, you

803
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: know that, but I am going to push back a

804
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: little bit about one of my questions was about the

805
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: number of seats to sixty two thousand and why they

806
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: were going to that, and you explained it a little

807
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: bit and I understood that, but I do want to

808
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: make a comment that as a season ticket holder from

809
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: the day to place opened till two thousand. The Bills

810
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: have never had trouble selling that stadium out when they're good,

811
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: and I've been there through I was there when there

812
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: was eighteen thousand season tickets and there was nineteen thousand

813
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: people in the stands because they were two and twelve.

814
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: If you investigated that, you will see there's a direct

815
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: correlation between even selling out eighty thousand, which they did

816
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: on a regulars when they were good. Bills Mafia has

817
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: always sold show. Yeah, that's here's the thing, Mark, And

818
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm just relating the stats the way the way it

819
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: was in that decade. Word, you know, it's a huge state.

820
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: It was a game, the greatest comeback game wasn't a sellout. Yeah,

821
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: that was blacked out in Buffalo. Yeah, and that's yeah,

822
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: it's the truth. I mean, it's not a big it's

823
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: not a disparaging remark about fans or anything. What it

824
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: is the truth. I mean, it was hard to sell

825
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: that stadium out when I first got here was eighty thousand,

826
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: two fifty. And then through the renovations they would put more,

827
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, more high level seating in it, and they

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00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: would just you know, they would remove seats and make

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00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: those seats that were there bigger and there would be

830
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: fewer people. Now it's down to what's the what was

831
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: the seventy two about seventy one seventy one and change,

832
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: So it's almost ten thousand seats less than it was

833
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: back in that day when it was so difficult to

834
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: sell out. I'm just saying it was during the nineties.

835
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: Mark during the nineties, when the team won more games

836
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: than any other franchise, they still only sold out sixty

837
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: one point four percent of the games. That's the number.

838
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: So that's and I get it. It's not something you

839
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: can it's not something to be ashamed of or proud of.

840
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: It's just a fact that's a hard stadium to sell out,

841
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: particularly an open air stadium in a market this size,

842
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: and a market in the city or this county the

843
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: size of Buffalo. So that doesn't mean the fans aren't rabid.

844
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: They are. We know that. And it's easier to do

845
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: that when the team wins than it is when it's stinks.

846
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you want to say, put a

847
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: feather in the cap of Bills fans, I would submit

848
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: to you this the fan base, the Bills, Buffalo Bills,

849
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: Bills mafia grew stronger and more robust and bigger during

850
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: the seventeen years of the drought than it did even

851
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: in the last five years, when you got a lot

852
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: of bandwagon jumpers now. But it grew better and bigger

853
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: and stronger during the drought years, which said something about

854
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo fans. Now it's everybody's on board now, but

855
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: it grew bigger and better during the years. So you

856
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: want a feather to put in your cap about what

857
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: Bills it is about, be a Buffalo Bills fan. That's it, right?

858
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: What else did you have? Mark? Mark? The other thing

859
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: was it was touched on quickly, if you guys know

860
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: how they work. I've heard about personal seat licenses in

861
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the past, but I've never ever heard it truly explained

862
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: as to what that dollar figure actually entitles the fan

863
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: who then buyased a ticket for that seat. And then

864
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: the other thing that one of my main concerns is

865
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: though that with the Bagoula's turning over ownership of the

866
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: property and the stadium to the state down the road,

867
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't trust the state. The state has a long

868
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: history of ignoring Western New York and doing things that

869
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: are not really great for Western New Yorkers, but maybe

870
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: good for the state. And I know there's no way

871
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: to correlate that other than I mean, I'm sixty three

872
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: years old and I've always felt that we were a

873
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: forgotten part of the landscape of the state for a

874
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: long long time. So turning over that ownership and control

875
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: of the stadium, the properties and whatever else, even the facilities,

876
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: the workout facilities and stuff makes me nervous when I

877
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: hear that. On the surface. Now, only time will tell

878
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: how that plays out. I understand all that, but the

879
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: history of this state makes me nervous when you start

880
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: doing that. And one last thing. One of the other

881
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: callers mentioned equity. I think I think years ago the

882
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: Pagoulas and the ownership took ownership of maintenance of the stadium,

883
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: the cost of taking care of that. I think there's

884
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: going to be a huge return for equity for them

885
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: by giving that up to the state. I do recognize that.

886
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: And of course in seat licensing, that's also going to

887
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: be extra money in their pocket to start bringing back

888
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: money towards their equity. So just just a few things,

889
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: thanks guys, all right, thanks Mark. Yeah, as far as

890
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: PSL to go, and we gotta be quick here because

891
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: we got to get the break before we can take

892
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: more phone calls. Personal seat licenses basically is a fee

893
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: that is charged to the customer to have a right

894
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: to then purchase a season ticket for that seat. So

895
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: it's like an upfront fee. And to be clear, and

896
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: I'll go back to what Ron Riculia said about this,

897
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: and again you can look at this at Buffalo bills

898
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: dot com. What Bills fans need to know about the

899
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: new stadium project. It's a Q and A with our

900
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: own Ron Riculia, and he basically states, with respect to

901
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: personal seat licenses, we're always very aware of the market

902
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: limitations and not overpricing our fans, especially as we move

903
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: into a new stadium. PSLs are an integral part of

904
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: every new stadium construction project. They will be part of

905
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: our project as well, but we will never get to

906
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: the point we'll reprice our fans out of attending our games.

907
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: The most important thing for us is to create the

908
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: best home field advantage we possibly can. Yeah, basically, I

909
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: would think, and I don't know if if this holds

910
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: exactly true, but what you do is, for instance, if

911
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: you want to be a season ticket holder, Okay, where

912
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: do you want to sit? Okay, if you want to

913
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: sit in that section, it's going to cost a fee

914
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: to get into the section. Then you pick your ticket

915
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: after you pay that feet kind of thing. It's kind

916
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: of a license like that. So if you want to

917
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: be a club's season ticket, a club suite holder, you

918
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: have to pay a fee to get into that section,

919
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: to pick your seat kind of thing. Roughly, that's as

920
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: roughly speaking as it can be. And you know it's yes,

921
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: as you said, it's just one of those ways that

922
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: they can make sure that their season there. It helps

923
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: with the revenues and it also helps you bring the

924
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: money back, the money back the debt that they've put

925
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: on putting up the stadium in the first place. We

926
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: have to get to break here. Before we do, we

927
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: let you know some other Bills news has come down

928
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: the pike. The Bills have resigned free agent guard Ike

929
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Butcker to a one year contract. So we'll have more

930
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: for you on that, but you can go to Buffalo

931
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Bills dot com for details. Right now, Steve and I

932
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: back in a second here on one Bills Live Center

933
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: by Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

934
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: Steve tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

935
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

936
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: for you, State State a blimp. We're not even in

937
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: the stratgyre of normalcy, all right. Our number two here

938
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: on a groundbreaking Monday no pun intended memorandum of understanding

939
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: signed by New York State Erie County for funding from

940
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the state in the county for the Bills new stadium project,

941
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: which is part of step one. Another positive step takes

942
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: place at the owner's meetings today where NFL ownership voted

943
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: unanimously to provide the Bills with two hundred million dollars

944
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: in new stadium project funding through their G four program,

945
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: which is designed to help supplement the cost of stadium construction.

946
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: So those two things took place today and we heard

947
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: from executive vice president of PSC and the Bills were

948
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: on Raculia who addressed the media and we played that

949
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: for you last hour. You can look that up at

950
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com if you happen to miss it

951
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: to hear all the comments. There is also an FAQ

952
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: if you have questions about the new stadium project. A

953
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: lot of those were answered by Ron Raculia in an

954
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: interview that I conducted with him, so that is available

955
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: for you as well at Buffalo bills dot com under

956
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: the heading what you need to know about the Bills

957
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: new stadium projects. So check that out if you have

958
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: some lingering questions and you don't get a chance to

959
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: ask them here on one Bills Live. But we go

960
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: back to the phone, some people waiting patiently, and we

961
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: lead off with Ed and Lancaster. What do us? Hey, Pellis,

962
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: thanks for taking a call. I appreciate it, especially because

963
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: I know that you're champing at the bit to hear

964
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: about Steve's winter camping story. This may call for some

965
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, wild eyed speculation. You've got the commissioner on

966
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: board with this. You have a unanimous vote from the

967
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: ownership and that includes Robert Kraft, that includes Jerry Jones

968
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: to give money and to support Buffalo, New York for

969
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: a new stadium. Is there any way that some of

970
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: that is due to the fact that over the last

971
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: few years, when Josh got here and everything turned the

972
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: way it did. I'm not a gambler. My son is

973
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: were the odds on favored to win the Super Bowl

974
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Now that we're relevant again,

975
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: now that the Bills are relevant. Again, I'm not actually

976
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: a player, and now that the city is relevant and

977
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll be on primetime TV at half

978
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: a dozen times next year, does that help grease the

979
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: skids for this kind of deal to get done? Is

980
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: this is so the thing that would have been, you know,

981
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: maybe not as readily available during the drought. Feels to

982
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: me like, you know, the Bills are a big deal

983
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: and that helps us. Yeah, I'm getting yeah. I'm going

984
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: to answer that question unequivocally no. And the reason why

985
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: is because when I went to the owner's meetings back

986
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, when the Bills were approved as the

987
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: new owners of the franchise by the rest of the

988
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: league's ownership, Jerry Jones in doing that, I have it

989
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: on good authority. I was not in the room, obviously,

990
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: but I have it on good authority from people that

991
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: were that Jerry Jones told the Pegoula's congratulations, were happy

992
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: for you, and we're glad you're on board with building

993
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: a new stadium. There was talk of this in twenty

994
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: fourteen as the Pegoulas assumed ownership of the franchise. I

995
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: think it was up to Jerry Jones and Robert Craft

996
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: and others. This stadium would have been built five years ago.

997
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: But because of the works and the agreements in place,

998
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: the lease agreement, etc. The renovations that had just been

999
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: approved to happen in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen to

1000
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: the existing stadium, it kind of pushed it back a

1001
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: little bit further. If it was up to Jerry Jones

1002
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: and Robert Craft, they would have been happy if this

1003
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: got done five years ago, seven years ago. Right, here's

1004
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: the thing, and I think they were very happy that

1005
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: the Bagoulas were on board. And because teams like Robert Craft,

1006
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: who if you've ever been to Gillette Stadium and the

1007
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: development of that surrounding area, which is all Robert Craft's

1008
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: doing as well. Jerry World of course down in Dallas,

1009
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: stand Cronky in La with the Sofi Stadium, the Seattle

1010
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks Stadium if you've ever been to that is a

1011
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: work of art. Stadiums are are a huge part of

1012
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: each franchise's individual contributions to the whole pie. And there

1013
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: are some guys who who max it out like Jerry Jones,

1014
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: Stan Cronky, Uh, Robert Kraft, the Maras and you know

1015
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: Johnson Woody Johnson in New York. You know, some of

1016
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: these owners really max it out and and and work

1017
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: hard to bring in revenues that are shared with thirty

1018
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: one other owners. They don't like owners who don't do that. Uh.

1019
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: They want all the other owners to work as hard

1020
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: at marketing their teams and their logos as they do.

1021
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: And the Pagoula is certainly through the efforts and the

1022
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: and the escalation of the product. You know, the facility

1023
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: that you and I are sitting in today, uh, doing

1024
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: the show from the training facility and now this new

1025
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: stadium undertaking, and the fact that they were on board

1026
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: from with it from the very beginning. Yeah, the other

1027
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: owners are way into it, and it would have it's

1028
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: it's nothing. It has nothing to do with how good

1029
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: the team is. It has good with how good the

1030
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: business is and how good how much they're willing to

1031
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: invest in the NFL, you know, to help the other owners.

1032
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: And that's why other owners are like, yeah, hey, we

1033
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: got another one who really gets this marketing thing, going

1034
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: to invest in the NFL shield not only their own

1035
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: through investing in their own franchise instead of just taking

1036
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: taking taking taking spending only as much as they have

1037
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: to every year putting out a product that isn't you know,

1038
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: maybe once in a while they have a good year,

1039
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: but they're mediocre to average on the on the you know,

1040
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: decade after decade. So they're more than willing to do

1041
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: this now. I we'll say this that the Bills are

1042
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: doing so well right now, certainly without questions. Superficially it

1043
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: helps everybody says, well, they're good. Yeah, the fans are

1044
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: behind them and all of that stuff. You got all

1045
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: that good will going, but in the nuts and bolts

1046
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: of the business side of it, they don't care. We

1047
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: heard round Mercuria say today that the league has been

1048
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: unequivocally one hundred percent behind the Bill's efforts to get

1049
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: a new stadium. Why because new stadiums generally mean greater

1050
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: revenue generation for that particular club, which means you grow

1051
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: the entire pie larger. And that's what these owners are

1052
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: always looking to do. How can we grow the pie bigger?

1053
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: And that's and that's a sign toward whatever French and

1054
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, thirty two teams. Not every city's gonna be

1055
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: New York City or Dallas or la or Houston or

1056
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: whatever what have you. And the owners who are invested

1057
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL at large, you know, on a big

1058
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: pie kind of thing, just want to maximize each and

1059
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: every market. That's what they want to do, and this

1060
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: certainly is an enormous step in the right direction for

1061
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: doing that here in Buffalo. Let's go back to the phones.

1062
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: We go to Bill and Angola next. What do Yeah? First, Bill,

1063
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys, how are you pretty good? Um? I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask. I like that the stadium's coming, but

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Speaker 1: I don't like where it's going. I thought they would

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Speaker 1: and why they're invested in the Shield. They would invest

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Speaker 1: in the community of Buffalo because when I know, I

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Speaker 1: live out in the South towns, well in southern Tier.

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Speaker 1: When I come to the game, I get in my car,

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Speaker 1: I'm going back home. Where if it was close to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I would go into Buffalo and maybe go out and

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Speaker 1: eat or something else. And I felt with it being

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo they could they would have more security. They

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't just be on what you call the sheriff,

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Speaker 1: it would also be on the Buffalo Police force to

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Speaker 1: secure around the stadium. Yeah, what's the difference. Well, I

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Speaker 1: feel that it wouldn't just be all on the county.

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Speaker 1: It would help. Then they could throw the ball back

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo and say, well, we bought the stadium here,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do with the transit? Well, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well here's the thing. Here's the thing. I get you, Bill,

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Speaker 1: um and and and I understand you know that you're

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Speaker 1: you're getting in your card. But what's wrong with why

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Speaker 1: why can't they build a community where they're at Well,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's called the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you see

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, I mean down in I'm not

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Speaker 1: down in Orchard Park. I'm just saying Buffalo needs. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Buffalo is starting to grow. And with the

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Speaker 1: stadium near Buffalo, you have you be where some of

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Speaker 1: the kids don't have they want to go to the games,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have a car, so they could have

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Speaker 1: used transit to go to the game. Well now you're yeah,

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Speaker 1: but now Bill, here, Bill, you're assuming. Now you're assuming

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Speaker 1: that in addition to stadium construction downtown, they were also

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Speaker 1: going to have to build extended infrastructure to get public

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Speaker 1: transportation to that stadium. And these were some of the

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Speaker 1: hurdles that became difficult to clear. And once again I'll

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Speaker 1: refer to Ron Ricuia's statement on this very subject, which

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Speaker 1: is contained in the FAQ on Buffalo bills dot com

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Speaker 1: What Bills fans need to know about the new Bills

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Speaker 1: stadium project? Why Orchard Park instead of downtown Buffalo or

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Speaker 1: other locations? Here is his direct answer to that. We've

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Speaker 1: done extensive studies. We did look at downtown. We also

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Speaker 1: looked at Amherst, and we determined that the best place

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Speaker 1: for the new stadium would be an Orchard Park across

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Speaker 1: from the existing stadium. Those other two locations required significantly

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Speaker 1: more dollars and significantly longer lead time to get a

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Speaker 1: stadium constructed. In the case of downtown, it would also

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Speaker 1: have required the displacement of many residents, which we were

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Speaker 1: not in favor of and not looking to do. Bottom line,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to displace people from their homes.

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Speaker 1: It was going to cost more money, and there was

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Speaker 1: going to be more infrastructure necessary to clear and existing

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Speaker 1: area relocate people, and it would cost more so and

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Speaker 1: it would take longer because of that. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: and at this point, at this end of that process,

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Speaker 1: they were saying, and this is in an article published

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Speaker 1: locally in the Buffalo News. To begin with, it was

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Speaker 1: going to be at least three hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 1: dollars more than what they're looking at right now, and

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Speaker 1: probably more than that, even more than that by one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. So and that's in Buffalo and some

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Speaker 1: and that's coming. That's gonna be Buffalo footing the bill

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Speaker 1: for that. It's more tax dollars coming out of your pocket,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. And that that comes that doesn't come from

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Speaker 1: everybody in New York State. That comes from Buffalo people.

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Speaker 1: So um, not only would you be bulldozing people's houses

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Speaker 1: and display you got to go find a new place

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Speaker 1: to live. We're also gonna put you know, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have an open lot on which to build

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Speaker 1: you now you've got a clear and demo displace people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that all costs me a bigger footprint. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: And then how is everybody getting there? Where is the

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Speaker 1: parking coming from? Here? Is it public trans Is there

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Speaker 1: public transportation to that location? Yes? No? Okay, are we

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Speaker 1: going to build it? Like? It's all of that. I

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Speaker 1: build I get it from built from angal, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has an idea of what they would be they

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Speaker 1: think would be perfect. And I'll say this that and

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Speaker 1: I get it. A lot of people have a fundamental

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01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: problem with state money or federal money going towards private industry,

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Speaker 1: even an industry that is perceived to be a local treasure,

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Speaker 1: like the Buffalo bills. Here's the thing. This is done

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: in the most expedient and cheapest and mostly cost effective

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01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: way possible, and to do it the right way, and

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Speaker 1: that means open land that is already accessible in nearby,

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: no disruption of any services, and and an institution that

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Speaker 1: has been in the same spot for fifty years shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to get up and pick up and move because

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Speaker 1: a nearby city has a piece of property or a

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Speaker 1: section of town they want cleaned up. They can still

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Speaker 1: go in there and clean all that up if they want.

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Speaker 1: If if that's the case, why don't they do that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's so um all that is that's just

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Speaker 1: me being that's my own personal opinion. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the bills have been in place where they're at for

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Speaker 1: fifty years, um, and they want and they've got a

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Speaker 1: chance to stay here for less way, way, less money,

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Speaker 1: and to do it expediently without any interruption of service,

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Speaker 1: without fans being displaced, without people or homes being displaced.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, um, while there, You're never going to be

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Speaker 1: able to please everybody in Western New York with this

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Speaker 1: new project. This solves many, many major hurdles before they

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Speaker 1: even get started. Back to the phones, into Frank and Amhurst. Next, Frank,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live A. You're talking to meet Frank and Amherst. That's right,

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Speaker 1: all right. The one thing I guess about me, I

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Speaker 1: go back to the year one hundred bucks Scott us

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Speaker 1: Jack Kemp, and I think Josh Allen is easily Jack

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Speaker 1: Kemp follow has some fine memories there. The one thing

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Speaker 1: that that always excites me when I watch a football

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Speaker 1: game is I watched Green Bay and citizens get together

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Speaker 1: and fill those stands. The one thing I love about

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Speaker 1: the Yankees is Steinbreder never never wanted to not have

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Speaker 1: a full stadium. I want people out there cheering. It

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Speaker 1: makes it makes a world of difference. Snow and hard

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Speaker 1: out to fee there. I understand something about this this

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Speaker 1: new and I'm glad for it. Is seventy or sixty thousand,

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Speaker 1: not eighty O. J. Simpson got us eighty thousand people

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Speaker 1: there and change the whole world for us. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the reduction. Yeah, I don't really like the reduction.

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Speaker 1: Well we've explained it, but well, no, he's not the

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Speaker 1: money explained. It's what people expect when they go to

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Speaker 1: a major league ballpark these years, these days, a major

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Speaker 1: sports league ballpark. They want a seat that's comfortable to

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Speaker 1: sit in, and that and that is you know that

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Speaker 1: it has some amenities. And here's the simple fact. The

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Speaker 1: seats in the new stadium are gonna be bigger than

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Speaker 1: the ones that people are sitting in now, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be more comfortable. They're gonna like it better. And

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Speaker 1: that means because those seats are better, their leg room

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Speaker 1: is more, there's more concessions, there's more open areas. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fewer people that fit in the same footprint

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Speaker 1: of around the state, around the field. So it's just

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Speaker 1: the way it is. And I said this too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have the capacity. They back in the old days,

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Speaker 1: they had the capacity for eighty thousand seats, but when

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Speaker 1: you go through some lean years, you never sell it out.

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Speaker 1: The place is a barn and it's empty. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have a stadium that is sixties sixty two thousand,

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Speaker 1: there's always you're always going to have single season seats

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Speaker 1: or single game tickets available, and there's also an appetite

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Speaker 1: for those tickets that is there that can be filled

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Speaker 1: with a game that may be less than Markue. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a Monday night football game against

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, you know. And the other thing too, Frank,

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Speaker 1: And thanks for the call. Just because the capacity is

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Speaker 1: estimated between sixty and sixty two thousand, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that necessarily means that you're only going to be able

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Speaker 1: to allow a maximum of sixty two thousand people in

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Speaker 1: the building. As Steve and I were talking last hour,

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Speaker 1: several of the new stadiums have common congregational areas. I

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Speaker 1: know the Dallas Cowboys, for a fact, sell upwards of

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Speaker 1: five thousand standing room only tickets where fans can come

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Speaker 1: in and stand in the pavilion area and frequent the

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Speaker 1: concession areas behind them and still have full view of

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Speaker 1: the full view of the field and they stand and

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Speaker 1: watch the game. Um, there are congregational areas and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the new stadiums, It wouldn't shock me if

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Speaker 1: the Bills do something similar, I don't know that, but

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Speaker 1: you know it says sixty two thousand seats. Wouldn't shock

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Speaker 1: me if there are some common pavilion areas where fans

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Speaker 1: can congregate and in really popular games have standing room

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Speaker 1: only areas where more fans can come in and view

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Speaker 1: the game. I don't know, we have nobody's seen renderings

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Speaker 1: what the stadium is gonna look like. But we're just

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Speaker 1: going off with all the new stadiums that we've seen.

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Speaker 1: Dallas has. It's like having a watch party inside the

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Speaker 1: States exact like. It's like it's like the old time

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Speaker 1: bleacher seats back in the back in the forties and

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Speaker 1: fifties in baseball, you go out for six for two

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Speaker 1: bucks and sit, you know, the outfield, in the outfield,

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Speaker 1: in the worst seats they can they can get. Now

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Speaker 1: they're going to do that, give you the amenities and

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Speaker 1: you can come in standing room only. You can be

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Speaker 1: in a watch party like you know, we've done it,

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Speaker 1: taking a tailgate inside exactly. So um, yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: get it. It's another ten thousand seats off of seventy

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Speaker 1: two that are here now. I don't know that it

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: will be that big a difference for most fans, and

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Speaker 1: certainly the way they're going to construct it, they want

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Speaker 1: the thing to be loud, so it will be loud

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: when it needs to be loud, when the Bills fans

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Speaker 1: want it to be loud. Let's go back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: We go to Mark in Tonawanda. Next. What you got Mark? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? My comment is based on

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Speaker 1: the previous college just now, I too agree that we

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Speaker 1: need a larger capacity stadium. This town loves its football

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Speaker 1: and I can't even remember a time when the Bills

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Speaker 1: never packed that stadium, even in their soft years, and

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Speaker 1: so to take it down to sixty two, I think

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Speaker 1: it's the loss. You guys made comments about revenue and

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: they want to make money. These owners, well, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to make money, you know, unless they raise that

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Speaker 1: count and get it back up to eighty thousand seats.

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Speaker 1: When Mark eight, Mark, answer me this. If you're telling

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Speaker 1: me that people love that stadium and they love watching

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Speaker 1: the team, and they've packed that stadium no matter even

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Speaker 1: in lean years, why is it? And I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: From the year nineteen ninety through the year nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: NFL the Buffalo Bills won more games than any other

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Speaker 1: franchise in those ten years. Are you there, Mark, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's yes, sir. How what's the percent did you hear?

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Speaker 1: What's given the percentage? How many they sold out? Sixty

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Speaker 1: sixty one point four percent of their games in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: in the nineties when they won it, when they won

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Speaker 1: more games than any other franchise, they sold out just

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Speaker 1: over less than two thirds of the time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just a that's a fact. It's a numbers and

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Speaker 1: mean because the fans didn't love the teams because there

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Speaker 1: was too many seats for the market size, and all

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Speaker 1: of the newer stadiums have reduced capacity. It is true

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: we do have a smaller market size, and so eighty

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: thousand maybe a little unrelisted. But I definitely think they

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Speaker 1: should keep it at seventy where they have it now. Yeah,

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't It doesn't seem like that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the case. Based on what they've told us. It looks

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be somewhere between sixty and sixty two.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there are pavilion congregational areas

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Speaker 1: where they can potentially sell standing room only ticket. I

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: don't know that, but we look at all the modern

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:25,799
Speaker 1: stadiums that have gone up Dallas, Indianapolis, Tampa Bay, New England.

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: All of these new stadiums have congregational pavilion type areas

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: where they sell standing room only tickets. I'm not saying

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: the bills are going to do that because I don't know,

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01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: but just to give you the answer from Ron Riquey himself,

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: he said, most every new stadium that's been built, not

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01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: just in football but throughout all of sports, has had

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Speaker 1: reduced capacity. The reason for reduced capacity is to create

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: a better in venue experience. Bigger seats, larger concourses, more intimacy.

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: All those things are critical for a new stadium, and

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: do that capacity does go down. The amenities that our

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: fans have told us that they would like are more

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: temperature controlled spaces, more variety on food and beverage, more

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: gathering spaces where they can congregate together. This is what

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that there are going to be

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: some kind of standing room only tickets available beyond the

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: seating capacity. To what degree, I do not know, but

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01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: that leads me to believe that that will be the

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: case going forward. Yeah, and I get it. It's gonna

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: be hard to say goodbye to this huge, beautiful stadium

1302
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: we see and you see it filled up, and you

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: know there's nothing those things going to make it look

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01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: old like this thing they're gonna build over here. It's

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a jewel, you will. Yeah. And I'll say

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: this too. And I've said this before. A lot of

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: people say, gosh, I want to roof on it, and

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: I get why. I mean, good grief. You know, I

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01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: was a sideline reporter this last year for that New

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: England playoff game when it was zero. It's hard to

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: sit out there and watch those games like that, and

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01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: the snow game against the Indianapolis Colts. That was a

1313
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: hard game to be thereat. It was hard to suffer

1314
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: through that. But I'll say this too, and this is

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: something I believe and I've never heard it. I've never

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01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: seen any science on it. It's strictly anecdotal and it's

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01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: my opinion and my personal opinion. Only. Let me just

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: tell you what I've seen. Cities that put a roof

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: on their stadium do not have tailgates because the fans

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: migrate and totally lose their interest in having tailgates. So

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01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: if so for all those Bills Mafia and the atmosphere

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01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: that is so unique to Buffalo out here in the

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: parking lots and the surrounding lots everywhere around the neighborhoods,

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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: that atmosphere that we've all come to know, and then

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01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: take a little pride. In no doubt, believe me, it

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: will all go away. It all goes away. It will

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: become a parking a silent parking lot, and you people

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: will come to the stadium go indoors immediately. They won't tailgate,

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: they won't do any of the things of the Bill

1330
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: fans are known for and have come to that atmosphere

1331
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: that we've come to say now that whether you like

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01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: it or not, that's my opinion, it's going to go away.

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: So some people say, hey, who cares, you know, it's

1334
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: not the game. I don't care. Other people may not

1335
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: be so quick to say, oh, really, I don't know.

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: But that's what a roof on the dome, would on

1337
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: the stadium would mean to me, because I've seen it

1338
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: in other places. It just doesn't happen anymore. So that

1339
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: is so saying goodbye to ten thousand seats in the

1340
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: full capacity or five thousand seats in full capacity, depending

1341
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: on what the standing room only thing is. That's one

1342
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: thing that you may may to me, may be easier

1343
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: to say goodbye too than the atmosphere outside the stadium

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: that we've come to know and love. Break time, Break

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: time for us here. We'll be back with more of

1346
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: your phone calls in a second. On one Bill's Live,

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. The

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01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers are proud to host r J Knight, presented

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: by Wegmans, during the team's home game against the Nashville

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01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: Predators on Friday, April first. The legendary career of Sabers,

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: played by play announcer Rick Jennett, will be honored when

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: a banner bearing his name will join the banners of

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: other Sabers legends and the rafters of Key Bank Center

1354
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: before the game. I'm going you. You got tickets too, right,

1355
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: They got the banner ceremony before the game. You gotta

1356
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: go at sixty. It starts. You gotta be in your

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 1: seat at six forty, so it's like just a pregame ceremony.

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: Tell yourself it's a six thirty game and you gotta

1359
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: go and see all because you know they're gonna run,

1360
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna have dignitaries, they're gonna have, you know, highlights

1361
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: of his call. Oh my guy. Yeah, so yeah, be

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: there early April first for r J. Knight and that's yeah,

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice, and it'd

1364
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: be good. Get a ticket now, it's gonna be sweet.

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones as we're talking new

1366
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: stadium project with you at eight oh three five fifty

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: and up next is Robbing the Lancaster. What you got first, Rob? Hey, guys,

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: how's it going good? Good? Just wondering as a senior

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: citizen here. Yeah, we already have all but the club

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01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: seats that are standing room only because nobody ever sits down. Yeah,

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: even though it's part of the season ticket holder thing

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: that you can be thrown out of stadium, very excessive standing.

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01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: Nothing's in the forest, right. Oh. I just want to

1374
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: know what they gonna do for senior citizens when I'll

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: be paying two and a half with private seat licensing

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01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: three times the amount of money to go get a

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: seat which is not really a seat. It's standing room

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: only because nobody sits down. Yeah, that's a good question.

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the prices are gonna be.

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: We don't know what they're gonna gonna be, so a

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: two and a half three times. I don't know if

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: that's accurate anyway, but I get your point. What you need.

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01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: What I would say to do Rob is and I'm

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: sure they'll do this because they did this when the

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01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 1: other when Bill Munson was in charge of it, the

1386
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: long time NFL executive for the Buffalo Bills, was in

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01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: charge of the season ticket holders transferring from the Rock

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01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Pile to Ralph what was then Rich Stadium. Yeah, and

1389
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: he would take He took hundreds of people season ticket

1390
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: holders through the new stadium to show them where they

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01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: were gonna sit or where their options were. You can

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01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: sit here, you can sit there. And of course going

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01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: from the rock Pile to the new stadium, it was

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01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: it was pretty He said, listen, there's no obstructive view.

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01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: Here you go. Now, they didn't know everybody's gonna be

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: standing at certain sections, and they didn't always do that

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01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: up until recently. But you'll be able to go in

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01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: there pre ticket buying and say, well, I'd like to

1399
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: sit in one of these seats because if everybody stands,

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01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm still in a spot where I'll be able to

1401
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: sit down and see. So you'll be able to do

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: that in the new statem, I would imagine, because it's

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: kind of common practice. So they'll give you a chance.

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: They gave people in the old day, in the old stadium.

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: This this stadium, Hi, Mark, they gave me a chance

1406
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: to come in before it was completed, when it got

1407
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: to a certain stage and was safe, you'd come in

1408
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'd like to sit kind of like right here. Well,

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,839
Speaker 1: I can remember back when you played in the nineties

1410
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,919
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl teams, people would stand. Okay, Corsel

1411
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: series the only game people standing forward the second half

1412
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: of the comeback game. Now it's it's paunts kickoffs from

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: the time they kick off till halftime, the time they

1414
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: kick off to the game of the game. Hey, Rob,

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01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: you're so you've been pretty sick, But Rob, you've been

1416
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: around the enforce it anymore and they should. Then let's

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01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: find some seating sections where people buy a seat two seats,

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: Hey Rob, Rob, Yeah, okay, what do you think that is?

1419
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: Because because people have people changed in their viewing habits.

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: What do you think it is. I mean, I know,

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: good team Josh. Do you think do I think it's

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: completely different these days than it has been in past? Ye? Rob?

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01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 1: Answer me? Hello, Rob? Do you think people's viewing habits

1424
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: of why do you think people stand now and they

1425
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: never did? I don't know. I don't either. I think

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: it's interesting though. You're right. So I'm telling you, if

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01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: you get a chance, Rob, do that check out and

1428
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: see if you can get you know, in the you

1429
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you start talking to your

1430
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: ticket representative right now, not Munson, but the other guy,

1431
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: Jim Majors, Matthews, whatever, the guy you have him on

1432
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Yeah, Andy Majors, Andy Major,

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01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: Andy Majors, talk to them, talk to everybody. Yeah, we

1434
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: know all that's a problem, but there's so many people

1435
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: we really can't do anything. YadA, YadA, YadA. Well, then

1436
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: why do you put it in the season ticket or

1437
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: rules that you're supposed to sit in your buck down

1438
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: once in a while, probably for probably not a mandatory thing,

1439
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: and it probably has something to do with legalities of

1440
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing in this In this and I would say,

1441
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: do not call your ticket representatives now. They're not going

1442
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: to have answers for you this early in the game.

1443
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: We don't even have renderings of what the seating arrangement's

1444
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna look like. There's no way they can help you,

1445
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 1: so don't call them. But when the time comes, I

1446
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: would say, choose carefully, right, we'll have to see. Nobody

1447
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: knows how it's all going to play out in absolutely,

1448
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: we have to wait and see what I get it.

1449
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jason and forty right next, wait yet

1450
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: for us, Jason, I've been listening to the car I

1451
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: think this deal is going to be great for the

1452
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: team for the long term, keeping them where they are.

1453
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: But I saw the number on the taxpayers, and being

1454
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: from Canada, I know a big chunk of season ticket

1455
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,799
Speaker 1: holders across the border. Was there anything said or mentioned

1456
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: or did the Bills try to scoop up any taxpayers

1457
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: money from the Canadian side or is that just out

1458
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: of the question. Yeah, that's out of jurisdiction. They what

1459
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: they will do though, There is a ton of Southern

1460
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: Ontario season ticket holders and they'll pay licensing fees, so

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: they'll get surcharged and pay the fees that and they'll

1462
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: they'll they'll pay the user fees like the rest of

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01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: us do. So that's the only way that that will happen.

1464
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: But other than that, no, there won't be any federal

1465
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: or province money coming from the Canadian side. Yeah, so

1466
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: it's a good point. Yeah, I understand it. I just

1467
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: think it's unrealistic going international to try to get tax dollars.

1468
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: That's not there's too much red tap there. I'm not

1469
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: even gonna get into that because I don't want to.

1470
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to get involved in an international incident.

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, up charge if you let's go CANDI address

1472
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: or something. Let's go back to the phones. We go

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01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: to Bill and Buffalo. You got first Bill, Hey, guys,

1474
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my car. I just kind of question

1475
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 1: about the actual stadium. Who would be the actual owner?

1476
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: I got the parking lot. Is it owned by the

1477
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: bills and the state? Get there? I heard the state's owner.

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Speaker 1: Heardho's going to lease it out? Like, who's going to

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Speaker 1: own it? Actually the State of New York. Yeah, it's

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: state bill, So the state will own it and then

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01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: it'll be on the bills to operate and maintain, and

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01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: there will be a stipend coming from the county not

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: to the degree that we've seen previously. It used to

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 1: be about the current lease seven million dollars in support

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01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: money provided by the county to help the Bills operate

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01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: and maintain the stadium. I believe there will be a

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01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: stipend from which the Bills can draw from Erie County

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,560
Speaker 1: for those purposes, but it's not going to be a

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,919
Speaker 1: locked in number every year. Right now, it's like twelve

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01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: point six seven million, six million of it is for

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: capital improvements and six point six seven million of it

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: was for maintenance of the stadium, and both those come

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01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: from the county until now now going forward, and this

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01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 1: was in Mark poland Car's statement earlier today, the county's

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01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: going to be relieved that those that they'll have some

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: kind of fun done which the Bills can draw, but

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a built in figure like

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01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Steve was just outlining there, let's go to Mark in

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: stock In next we got for us Mark, Hi, guys, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find out why don't they put

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: a retractable roof on so they can host a super

1502
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Bowl here in the winter. It's too expensive, but the

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01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: whole thing a super Bow Bowl brings billions to your area. Yeah,

1504
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: you're talking once every five or seven years though, And

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be billions be without it. It's too expensive,

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01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: I know, but still we won't even be on the

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: list without you. Probably would really to be a boost

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01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: own area to be on the list that even hosts

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01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: a super Bowl up north. Yeah, that is true, it would.

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: It would be a big boost. We got all the

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01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, we got stuff to see, right,

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01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: I get I get it, Mark, Yeah, we get it.

1513
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: I think the more, I think more and more northern

1514
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: cities are gonna die away from the rotation as we

1515
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: have seen. Anybody going back to Minneapolis since ninety one.

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01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: That was a cold week, wasn't it, Steve? It was.

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01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't for getting ninety one. It was super Bowl

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01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: forty fifty yea, it was Minneapolis. It was who was

1519
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: in it? Jay Harris and I were up there for

1520
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: the entire week. Yeah, and the mall of America with

1521
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: every other radio station in America it was Yeah. Really,

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01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a popular It was like twenty nineteen.

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: It's not a popular No, it wasn't twenty nineteen. Wasn't

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01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: that recently? Yeah? Yes, who the hell played up there.

1525
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't. It was Philadelphia, New England. That's where it was.

1526
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia, New England Super Bowl was in Minneapolis. We

1527
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: are learning that Brandon Bean is addressing the media down

1528
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach right now, and he has just

1529
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: announced that the Bills will be bringing Ryan Bates back

1530
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: as a restricted free agent. There had been reports that

1531
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: he had signed an offer sheet with the Chicago Bears,

1532
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: but he said that they will be bringing Ryan Bates

1533
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: back to the roster. They also resigned Ike Butcker today,

1534
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: although the state of his writiness as a player is

1535
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: to be determined, having ruptured as Achilles on December twenty

1536
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: sixth against the Patriot. It's in week sixteen, so we'll

1537
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: see what's going on. We have to take a break here,

1538
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: but we'll take a couple more calls, and so Tom

1539
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: and Rochester and others holding an eighth, three five fifty,

1540
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: hang tight. We'll get to you more on Stadium Talk

1541
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: here when we return. On One Bill's Live presented by

1542
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back,

1543
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean addressing the media down at the owner's

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01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: meetings in West Palm Beach, did say, the Bills are

1545
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: matching the restricted free agent offer sheet signed by Ryan

1546
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Bates with the Chicago Bears, and even the national reporters

1547
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: are on this now. It's reportedly a four year deal

1548
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: for Ryan Bates, so good news. Buffalo's offensive line refortified,

1549
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: and at least on paper, Steve, they have a on

1550
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: paper anyway, starting five. Of course, that's obviously subject to change,

1551
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: but as it looks right now, it would presumably be

1552
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: left to right Dion Dawkins, Roger Saffold, Mitch Morris, Ryan Bates,

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01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: and then Spencer Brown, So that would probably be how

1554
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: it looks going to camp, and then based on how

1555
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: people perform potential draft choices, there could be changes here

1556
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: or there. Yeah, And also if Ike Bucker comes back,

1557
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: don't forget I Butker was on the field before Ryan

1558
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: Bates got on the He was he is coming off

1559
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: from a rupture to rupture to Chilles. But if he

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01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: comes back, you would think that's how it's gonna be,

1561
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 1: But I don't know that. And certainly Ryan Bates proved

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: his worth in the stretch run last year's UM, if

1563
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: if not overperforming their expectations, certainly being adequate for their

1564
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: wishes at guard. So yeah, along with Saffold being signed,

1565
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: that's big because that gives him some lexibility now to

1566
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: put just the best next guy at the other guard spot.

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01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones, though, is we're talking

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01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: new stadium project today and we go to Tom and Rochester.

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01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: What you got first, Tom, Hi, guys, it's good news

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01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: about Bates. Now. All we need is a corner in

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01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: the draft. But um, I wanted to make some pluses

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01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: and minuses and just my bottom line assessment of this

1573
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: idea that there's going to be sixty some odd thousand

1574
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 1: seats in the new stadium, right. I wanted to talk

1575
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: to one guy that says the Bills even filled the

1576
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: stadium in lean years. He hasn't been a Bills fan

1577
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: for very long. I can remember lots of games where

1578
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Bills were blacked out and I was dying because they

1579
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: weren't good and they weren't selling out the stadium. So

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01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: if they're not good, they're not going to sell out

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01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: the stadium. I I don't care. I mean, I've been

1582
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: through it. That's number one. Number two, what I wanted

1583
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: to say, I think in theory, if you have less,

1584
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: obviously have left seats, less seats you have in theory,

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01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: you have more higher likelihood of UM selling it out,

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01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 1: which means less likelihood of blackouts. So that's yeah. And

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01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: I hate to jump in here, Tom, but we're actually

1588
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: running out of time for the show. There aren't any

1589
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: blackouts anymore. That blackout rule was lifted, so there's no

1590
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: more blackout rule to even worry about. Uh, Steve and

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01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: I are done for today. Sorry, we couldn't get to everybody.

1592
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: We've got Ron Rakulia, the man that was addressing the

1593
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: media earlier. He'll be on the show with us tomorrow,

1594
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: so be sure to tune in. We'll see it one