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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian.

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Speaker 2: They're making the transition to completely autonomous self driving cars,

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Speaker 2: and I'm saying, how crazy and cool and wonderful is that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, stop, baby car and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 4: My car in the rain.

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Speaker 2: It stalled out, it died. Let's talk just from a

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Speaker 2: practical perspective and then I'll send you where I think you.

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Speaker 1: Need the big Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where

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Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion

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Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is the week we finally get to wear

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Speaker 2: clean clothes at the Inanian household. Hello and welcome Ron

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Speaker 2: and any and the car Doctor here at eight five

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Speaker 2: and however you want to get to us, and we're

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Speaker 2: glad that you are continuing to do so in growing numbers.

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Speaker 2: It's very heartening to see the emails and the phone

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Speaker 2: calls here, the phone calls that come across our desks

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Speaker 2: at the Card Doctor Corporate office as everybody call up

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Speaker 2: and says, hey, I.

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Speaker 3: Just discovered you guys.

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Speaker 2: We just had a call today from someone who called

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Speaker 2: in and said, hey, I just discovered you guys. And

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Speaker 2: I've put twelve hours of listening in and I've decided

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Speaker 2: I've got a question I want to call it and

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Speaker 2: asking let me tell you something that tells us that

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Speaker 2: we continue to be on the right track after these

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Speaker 2: twenty three past years of radio, that we are.

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Speaker 3: Hitting a nerve.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of things to do with your time,

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Speaker 2: and you take us serious enough that We're not going

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Speaker 2: to waste it. And you dedicate a little bit of

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Speaker 2: your time to listen to us, and that's why we

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Speaker 2: listen to you. So we love those cards and letters.

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Speaker 2: Keep telling us what you like or don't like about

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Speaker 2: the show, and we will make the appropriate changes. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot going on this hour as well as

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Speaker 2: next hour, but we'll talk about the first hour first. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking to Harlan Siegel down around the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. Harlan is the vice president of

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Speaker 2: diagnostics for a Launch. And you know, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: a conversation out of Buck Rogers or Star Wars or

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Speaker 2: Star Trek, whatever your generation of when we talk about

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Speaker 2: go Lo. Go Lo is the late in automotive diagnostics.

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Speaker 2: It allows remote diagnostics. So you take a device. If

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Speaker 2: I said to you, hey, you can take this little chip,

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Speaker 2: plug it into the OBD two port underneath your dashboard,

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Speaker 2: made it to your phone by Bluetooth technology, and you're

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Speaker 2: driving along anywhere, anywhere, and check engine light pops on.

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Speaker 2: You call your mechanic, Hey, you call Ron. You say, hey, Ron,

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Speaker 2: my check engine light's on. I go hang on a second.

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Speaker 2: Let me go over here and get my Launch Launch

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Speaker 2: diagnostic pad and I plug in, I connect, I hit

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Speaker 2: looking at your car live from wherever you are via

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Speaker 2: that technology, and I can tell you, Hey, Tom, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: Don't drive the car.

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Speaker 2: Let me clear the code for you so that you

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Speaker 2: can continue on driving. Let's see if the problem comes back.

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Speaker 2: Sounds kind of crazy, right, Well, stick around because we're

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Speaker 2: because that's what we've got going on. Around two thirty

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Speaker 2: we finally did get the washing machine repaired. Absolutely unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: he sat down. We discovered that the capacitor for the motor.

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Speaker 2: when it turns on to spin the drumm in a

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Speaker 3: Which it did it took out.

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Speaker 2: The new computer that they put in, so they ended

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Speaker 2: with an outside. Basically, they put a new engine, transmission,

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Speaker 2: Maybe I could sell it up on eBay and say, yes,

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Speaker 2: because the bottom line always comes back to diagnose, diagnose, diagnose,

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Speaker 2: and that's how you fix things in this life. You

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Speaker 2: And that's just so gosh darn important. But let's crank

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Speaker 2: to Mark and Augusta Maine with some comments. I think

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Speaker 3: Mark, are you there, sir?

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Speaker 5: I am. How are you today?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm a lot better.

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Speaker 2: We're sitting here in clean clothes finally, and it was

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Speaker 2: kind of tough to manage and juggle. I understand you're

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Speaker 2: you can understand what we were going through. Talk to

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Speaker 5: Definitely understand what you were going through. I've been in

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Speaker 5: that goes and it destroys everything.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, did it destroy everything.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to track down. It's one of the harder

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Speaker 5: they've never had any trouble with that particular part before.

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Speaker 5: You know, listening to you about putting the blinker light

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Speaker 3: Right, see if the light lights up, if you have

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, yeah, stuff with stuff like that. I've phoned

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Speaker 5: broken wires, burnt off wires, broken harnesses, it's all out there.

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Speaker 5: I do have a question about my truck though, sure,

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Speaker 5: And every once in a while, the computer in the

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Speaker 5: mirror seems like it's talking, uh talking strange languages. It

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Speaker 5: just keeps flipping around and looks like it's resetting itself,

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Speaker 2: It probably is resetting itself. What I've seen on a

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Speaker 2: the heater control dash display. I tell you every once

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Speaker 2: you'll find there's an updated module or an updated component

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Speaker 2: because they've they've updated the chips. And again, here we

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Speaker 2: a component, which on a mirror control is probably not

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my main

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Speaker 2: No, we had a and it's not just it's not

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Speaker 2: just GM's mark. We had a late model Chrysler about

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Speaker 2: went round and round. Couldn't duplicate the problem. Finally duplicated

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Speaker 2: unplugged it counted to I believe. I gave it thirty

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Speaker 2: hasn't been back since. So every once in a while

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Speaker 5: Excellent, I will I'll try that and see what happens.

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Speaker 5: And we listened to you every weekend.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here for you, and I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the call and good look fixing those appliances. Your business

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Speaker 2: and my business is starting to grow to be quite

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Speaker 2: a bit alike. So uh, put some wheels on a refrigerator.

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Speaker 2: You got the same problems I got.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially when they can put TVs on the front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, I always thought there was a genius move. Right,

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Speaker 2: let's put a uh, let's put something electronic next to

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Speaker 2: something that's cold and wet and spits out ice cubes.

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Speaker 2: Gotta love this idea that these guys come up with.

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Speaker 2: Mark talking to you, I've got to pull over and

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Speaker 2: take a pause. I'm ronning any and the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: We are back right after this. Welcome back, ron Nanni

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Speaker 2: and the Card Doctor here by the way, remind me, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll remind you next hour. At the top of

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Speaker 2: next hour, we're going to talk about how anti gravity

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Speaker 2: batteries saved the guy with the washing machine from complete embarrassment.

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Speaker 2: He was mildly embarrassed, and that's a whole nother story.

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Speaker 2: But it was just I'm telling you, the washing machine

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Speaker 2: saga is just going to continue for a couple of months,

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Speaker 2: and it was really unfortunate because now that it's fixed,

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Speaker 2: I've got to come up with new material to open

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Speaker 2: the show each week. These guys were good at least

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Speaker 2: for what do we get three four weeks out of it?

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Speaker 2: It was and it was an example of how not

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Speaker 2: the diagnose. So just remind me top of the next hour,

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Speaker 2: stick around for that. You want to hear that story.

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Speaker 2: Let's in the meantime, let's get over and talk to

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Speaker 2: Paul in Stanton, Virginia eighty seven to Ford Bronco two

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Speaker 2: and some problems with the way that it runs. Paul,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Card Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 3: How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So, ron the little Bronco runs right for the

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Speaker 4: most part, It's got out mile gets twenty miles to

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Speaker 4: get and doesn't use oil.

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Speaker 3: I hear a butt coming, Yeah, but there you go.

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Speaker 4: Uh it's strange at night with the headlights on, particularly

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Speaker 4: on high beams and the blower on high to get

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Speaker 4: some eat out and uh it'll be driving fine then

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Speaker 4: it uh it may you may notice where it doesn't

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Speaker 4: seem to have quite the tower and then you can

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Speaker 4: you can either dip the lights or turn the fan

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Speaker 4: off and then it'll come back. And sometimes it actually

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Speaker 4: comes on very quickly where uh it'll it'll uh be headitating.

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Speaker 4: You'll have a miss in it. And it doesn't do

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Speaker 4: this in the daytime. So in the time in the driveway,

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Speaker 4: I've turned in the headlights, I've turned on you know,

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Speaker 4: every power drawing item I can find, even uh even

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Speaker 4: uh put a long handle tool uh force that in

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Speaker 4: between the brake pedal to the way the brake lights

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Speaker 4: were on even and I can't seem to get a reproduce.

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Speaker 2: And so you turn you turn on the same things

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Speaker 2: during the day that you can at night. And you're

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Speaker 2: telling me you can't replicate the problem, right, And.

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Speaker 4: I've I've figured, well, it's it seems.

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Speaker 2: Like what if what if you what if you drive

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Speaker 2: around during the day with those same items on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then it seems to be fine.

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, no, if you drive around during the day,

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Speaker 2: drive around a car doesn't know whether it's light or

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Speaker 2: dark out. Yeah, I know, all right, So you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to be logical about this, you're telling me that

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Speaker 2: if you were to turn on the same items during

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Speaker 2: the day as you do at night, you don't have

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Speaker 2: the problem.

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Speaker 4: Uh. It did do it a couple of times. But

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Speaker 4: you know, I've I've been I've been trying to work

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Speaker 4: at this for a while and the you know, check

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Speaker 4: engine lights, nott on, I've I've pulled codes out of it.

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Speaker 4: None of the codes made any sense.

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Speaker 3: What sort of codes do you get out of it?

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Speaker 4: Well, I got a code like air conditioning is on

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Speaker 4: or transmission in part like that, and this is a

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Speaker 4: manual transmission right.

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Speaker 2: Well that's because you know, I got to remember now,

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Speaker 2: this is an EG four engine control system and one

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Speaker 2: there's right, this is OBD one. This is gonna be

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get some ghost codes out of this vehicle.

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Speaker 2: So the codes probably aren't applicable, so you know, and

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Speaker 2: this is a this is a two point nine, This

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Speaker 2: is a fuel inject motor correct correct, all right, So

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Speaker 2: you know, are we chasing a needle in a haystack.

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Speaker 2: The first problem you've got is you can't replicate it.

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Speaker 2: You can't duplicate it, and you know it's it's hard

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Speaker 2: to duplicate. I can tell you what the overlooked things are,

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Speaker 2: the most commonly overlooked things on an EKE four system.

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Speaker 2: When you're looking for this kind of problem, there should

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Speaker 2: be one, if not two grounds on the back cylinder

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Speaker 2: heads out of the main wiring harness that lead to

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Speaker 2: the two sensors, and especially on an older vehicle rusty

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Speaker 2: and cruddy, just kind of twist your neck and shove

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Speaker 2: your head back against the firewall and when you feel

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Speaker 2: your neck sort of got a crick in it and

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Speaker 2: you know you're going to the chiropractor, you're probably looking

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Speaker 2: right at the ground because it's in the worst possible spot.

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Speaker 2: Then you got to figure out how to get a

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Speaker 2: wrench in there to make sure it's clean and tight,

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Speaker 2: take it apart, clean it, make sure there's no rust

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Speaker 2: on the surface of the head where it goes to

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Speaker 2: or tag onto the wire, and run an alternate ground.

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Speaker 2: The ground on the back of the block is pretty critical.

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Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two, the ground coming off the

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Speaker 2: negative battery cable. That ground connection has to be absolutely

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Speaker 2: positively spotless. That is the main ground for the PCM

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Speaker 2: on an EQUE four car. And there should be a

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Speaker 2: little pull apart connector off that negative cable.

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Speaker 3: Is there is there?

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Speaker 2: Is there a thin pull apart connector a male and

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Speaker 2: a female coupling, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Of course there is.

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Speaker 6: UH.

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Speaker 4: There is a second wire on the uh on the

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Speaker 4: ground terminal.

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Speaker 2: Right, and that's don't don't take that, don't take up.

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Speaker 3: Don't take well, say that again, Paul, And it's.

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Speaker 4: It's taped up, and it's if I could spend that

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Speaker 4: way along.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you'd be amazed take that tape off. Let

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Speaker 2: me know, if you find moisture and condensation in there

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Speaker 2: and it's corroded and and that's a and that's a

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Speaker 2: real strong possibility. I would be looking for grounds. I'm

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Speaker 2: either gonna have it on my mind to start looking

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Speaker 2: at grounds and start thinking about the the extra electrical

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Speaker 2: load and what it does to the vehicle. Now, keep

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Speaker 2: in mind, this is an older vehicle. I think we've

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Speaker 2: talked in the past before. It's kind of rusty, you've

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Speaker 2: got to think about grounds and cleanliness and not overlook

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Speaker 2: anything and be prepared to take apart everything, all right.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I might want to do is I

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Speaker 2: might want to hook up a scan tool and drive

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Speaker 2: around at night when this problem happens or during the day,

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Speaker 2: because I still don't buy that it doesn't happen during

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Speaker 2: the day. I just don't think you're replicating it in

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Speaker 2: the exact same manner, and I would be I would

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Speaker 2: be taking a hard look at data stream. Does it

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Speaker 2: lose information? Eighty seven? Should still display data stream? Does

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Speaker 2: it lose information in terms of, you know, when it

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Speaker 2: starts to falter and hiccup? And then the third thing

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Speaker 2: I would think about is power to the ignition coil?

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Speaker 2: Does it maintain? And what does charging system voltage go to.

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Speaker 2: I would want to look at it with a very

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Speaker 2: accurate vault meter, try those couple of things. Paul, give

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Speaker 2: me a call, let me know. Let's get over and

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Speaker 2: talk to Dennis Ferrewell, New Jersey, two thousand and six, Toyota,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Dennis? How can I help you?

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Speaker 6: Run? I have a two thousand and six Zion XB okay,

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Speaker 6: but one hundred and eighty three thousand miles on it

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Speaker 6: just broken in, just broken in. Right, driving along, the vehicle,

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Speaker 6: stability control light comes on, the traction off control light

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Speaker 6: comes on, and the check engine light comes on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, what's the copy.

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Speaker 6: Enough to have a use scan installed?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 6: So I immediately scanned it right, and I got a

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Speaker 6: P zero four twenty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, catalytic converter code.

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Speaker 2: So your question is why do you have the other

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Speaker 2: two lights if it's a check engine light and it's

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Speaker 2: bingo easy. This is really easy what Toyota does, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of the car companies are doing. A general

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Speaker 2: motors does it when the check when the when the

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Speaker 2: onboard computer senses a fault in the engine controller, it

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Speaker 2: will then limit other operation and other functionality of other

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Speaker 2: other things the vehicle does so, in other words, because

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Speaker 2: the vehicle is not running at peak performance, because emissions

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Speaker 2: can be compromised because the check engine lights on. Why

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Speaker 2: is a check engine light come on? A check engine

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Speaker 2: light comes on whenever a vehicle exceeds its emission levels

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Speaker 2: by one and a half times the federal mandate. They say, hey,

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Speaker 2: check engine lights on. Vehicle's not running properly because it's

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Speaker 2: gonna have emissions issues. They don't want to make it

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Speaker 2: work any harder, so they take away the ability of

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Speaker 2: traction control, vehicle stability, and other things on other vehicles.

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Speaker 3: So fix the.

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Speaker 2: Four to twenty. That's the bottom line, and you will

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Speaker 2: fix the other two fults. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: there is a bulletin out from Toyota that talks about

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Speaker 2: this exact scenario and what can happen as a result,

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Speaker 2: and to ignore the first two and go after the

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Speaker 2: check engine light. Dennis, I appreciate the call, and you

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Speaker 2: keep me posted. Let me know how you make out.

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Speaker 2: If you need to know what catalytic converted are buy,

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Speaker 2: we can have that conversation to it another time.

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Speaker 3: I'm running any in the car.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Harlan Siegel diagnosis from the road coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned. We're back right after this.

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Speaker 5: And he