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Speaker 2: What that ship under? U?

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Speaker 3: Krusty white Dog?

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Speaker 4: Christy white Dog? Good morning, sweet and welcome to the

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Speaker 4: Nodawk's podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, November three.

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Speaker 4: I'm j E. Skeets alongside me as always there he

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Speaker 4: is in his brain's hat. Tass Mellus.

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Speaker 5: Hey, how about that Atlanta braid?

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Speaker 4: We got my top cha Hoppo. I also a Braves fan,

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Speaker 4: Trey Curry. Hey, we've got the international Man of mystery taking

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Speaker 4: it to the max Leelis friends man least certainly not

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Speaker 4: least making the magic happen. Oh God, JD.

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Speaker 3: Crusty White Dog, what's.

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Speaker 4: Going on over there? Everything?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yea, everything's fine.

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Speaker 5: You know a little bit of a construction zone over here,

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Speaker 5: but you know, we're working on a secret, super secret

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Speaker 4: So exciting, exciting. Shout up to the stream team joining

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Speaker 4: us live right now on YouTube. Make sure you guys

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Speaker 4: Like the video and subscribe, comment, share the show, cue

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Speaker 4: the Rounders music. I guess let's just slip it in now.

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Speaker 4: The guy's got their Braves hats on. They win the

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Speaker 4: World Series in Game six last night. As far as

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Speaker 4: Atlanta sports go, you know, pretty stress free. I would

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Speaker 2: It was a.

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Speaker 6: Boom out skeatzy. I was popping a big old hat

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Speaker 6: last night. Oh are you kidding me? I hopped on

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Speaker 6: the Braves bandwagon in nineteen ninety one. I got sick,

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Speaker 6: had to stay home from school for a week, and,

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Speaker 6: little bit like Freddy Freeman made it through the tough

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Speaker 6: that was Jorge Selaire's home run finally coming down all

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Speaker 3: I was in a fashion show. I wrapped the rock

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Speaker 7: And also I won a fantasy basketball fantasy baseball league

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Speaker 6: the Atlanta Braves. Shout out to David Justice. I'm only

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Speaker 6: Let's see you know this guy, he played third base

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: Check out these boyes young buys.

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Speaker 3: They're playing the best ball, They're playing the most complete

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Speaker 4: There was two basically pass that people went. The first

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Speaker 4: would you want like a John Wall to add that

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Speaker 4: sort of like you know, you know, playmaker score another

432
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Speaker 4: wing option that can create alongside Luca. If you had

433
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Speaker 4: to pick one or the other, well, it's hypothetically trading

434
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Speaker 4: a KP and then other stuff.

435
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Speaker 7: I take Miles Turner because you know he's going to

436
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Speaker 7: get out there on the floor. He does shoot the three,

437
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Speaker 7: does at least block shots and contest. I think that's

438
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Speaker 7: what they need more so than John Wall, who you're

439
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Speaker 7: just not sure what you're getting out of him really

440
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 7: at this point. I mean, he's obviously not playing with Houston.

441
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 7: He would be gettable if they can basically figure out

442
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Speaker 7: how to get him, I'm sure, but because he's got

443
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Speaker 7: the massive contract, it makes it difficult. But I think

444
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Speaker 7: Myles Turner would address the initial problem first of all,

445
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Speaker 7: where you know you get someone some rim protection, some help,

446
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Speaker 7: and a guy who can spread the floor. But of course,

447
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 7: you know Chris STAPs back with Rick Carlisle. I don't

448
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 7: see that happening anytime.

449
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: Soon and.

450
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Speaker 6: Isn't.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 7: Well, but the problem with pau zingis as well is

453
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Speaker 7: again no one I think he's giving up significant capital

454
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Speaker 7: to get him, because it's like he's coming with such

455
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Speaker 7: injury risks, and even when he's not injured, how good

456
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Speaker 7: is he really? He hasn't proven consistently over his time

457
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Speaker 7: here that he can go out there and be great.

458
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Speaker 7: There are games, We've seen those games where he has

459
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Speaker 7: thirty six points and it's like, oh my god, this

460
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Speaker 7: guy can't be stopped. But they seem to be few

461
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Speaker 7: and far between right now. I think if you're the Mavericks, though,

462
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Speaker 7: if you're a Cuban, you're calling up Messi Uri today

463
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Speaker 7: and say, all right, let's let's get Dragage. He's not

464
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 7: playing for you. That at least is like the band

465
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Speaker 7: aid solution, like give us another guy who can at

466
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Speaker 7: least run the offense. You know, Dragage wants to get

467
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Speaker 7: out of there again. I'm not sure he's got a

468
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Speaker 7: big contract too. Actually he's got nineteen million, HE'SO. So

469
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Speaker 7: that doesn't that's not just a quick fix in that

470
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Speaker 7: respect us for Drugage. Let's go, I mean, you know,

471
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Speaker 7: call it in you may as well if you're the Raptors,

472
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Speaker 7: if he can make it work, just just to have

473
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Speaker 7: Pausingis on your bench. But yeah, that's that's where I

474
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Speaker 7: think Mark Cuban needs to go first, is like, all right,

475
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Speaker 7: let's just get drags first problem and then see if

476
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Speaker 7: we can trade Pausingis for Miles Turner. Don't think it's

477
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Speaker 7: going to happen. But you know, again, unless John wall

478
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Speaker 7: is saying, all right, you know what, I'll opt out

479
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Speaker 7: of my contracts. He's got a player option for like

480
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Speaker 7: forty seven million, and he's still owned forty four million

481
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Speaker 7: this year, and say, and I'll give back thirty million.

482
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Speaker 7: Then I'll go to the Mavericks and play there, because

483
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Speaker 7: that's the only way realistically, I think it's going to happen.

484
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Speaker 4: Still with the in the stream team wisely pointing out

485
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Speaker 4: when I was talking about the MAVs probably having to

486
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Speaker 4: attach picks if they wanted to move forward, zingis future picks.

487
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Speaker 4: I want to make that clear because they still owe one,

488
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Speaker 4: I believe, to the New York Knicks, a top ten

489
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Speaker 4: protected pick. So yeah, these would be in the future.

490
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Speaker 4: We'll be looking at, you know, your twenty twenty fours

491
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Speaker 4: or twenty five's down the line there, but some teams,

492
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Speaker 4: some people do that maybe Luca would be gone from

493
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Speaker 4: Dallas by that point, and maybe you'd hit on something.

494
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Speaker 4: One more note from this game and we'll get to

495
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Speaker 4: the other ones. Just because Lowry had a couple beautiful

496
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Speaker 4: lobs to bam, just gorgeous passes, you know off the

497
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Speaker 4: high pick and roll alley oops, I tweeted out, you

498
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Speaker 4: know they're not the flashes, but Lowry is one of

499
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Speaker 4: these like sort of like all time great just solid

500
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Speaker 4: alleoop passers. He really puts it generally right there on

501
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Speaker 4: the money for guys to finish. Who else is on

502
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Speaker 4: that sort of list, Kid Chris Paul, Gary Payton, Andre

503
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Speaker 4: Miller was great at it. And I just asked people

504
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Speaker 4: like cool, so am I forgetting just some great replies

505
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Speaker 4: I unbelievably forgot. Steve Nash just had a big brain fart.

506
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Speaker 4: But Wade Penny, Jamior Nelson definitely helped by playing with

507
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Speaker 4: White Howard just throw it anywhere, uh white chocolate, Jason Williams, Tree, Young,

508
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Speaker 4: Raymond Felton Harden, especially his work in Houston with Capella Sherman, Douglas,

509
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Speaker 4: John Hollinger, wanted out there. Yeah, throwing the ops and

510
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Speaker 4: then a lot of love for for Rondo to anyone,

511
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Speaker 4: I'm forgetting there Ley.

512
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Speaker 7: Well, if we go in Sherman Douglas, I'm gonna say

513
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Speaker 7: Brian Sure with Shack he was great in Orlando and

514
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Speaker 7: then in LA. But that's the one specific guy he

515
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Speaker 7: used to pass well too. But hey, what about this

516
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Speaker 7: guy Brian Sure.

517
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Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing at a certain point, is

518
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Speaker 4: it the passer or is it the guy there? Yeah?

519
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Speaker 4: I mean in some of these cases, but some some

520
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Speaker 4: great replies there to.

521
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Speaker 6: That Raymond Felton who suggested Raymond Felton come on.

522
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Speaker 4: Something I had. I feel like two people did though,

523
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Speaker 4: So I think that's why I included him.

524
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Probablytty Divine. If I were guessing, maybe Seth Rosenthal.

525
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Speaker 6: What about this guy Moe Williams, the best bad alley

526
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Speaker 6: oop passer of all time, never puts it close when

527
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Speaker 6: he was playing with Lebron But that was better because

528
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Speaker 6: it would turn into better dunks.

529
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Speaker 4: Yeah, better highlights. Thank you Williams for being a shitty Elliott. Yeah, okay,

530
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Speaker 4: let's keep going here. Donovan, Mitchell, Mike Conley, Power the

531
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Speaker 4: Jazz past Sacramento one nineteen to one thirteen, Trey, what

532
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Speaker 4: did you want to touch on from this one?

533
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Speaker 6: Well, I hope you breakfast Eat and bros aren't too

534
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Speaker 6: full jd roll. That beautiful beef footage.

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Speaker 9: Rudy Gobert had twenty rebounds. Hey, go look at this

536
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Speaker 9: crop of little beef boards. That's a lot of roast beef,

537
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Speaker 9: which is rebounds.

538
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Speaker 4: I like that you included the Gobert crappy fast breaking.

539
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Speaker 4: Take a look at that. It's a nice crop.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Once I saw that clip of Gobert just pushing

541
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Speaker 6: the break because he basically like I think it's deer

542
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Speaker 6: and Fox takes it to the hole. He kind of

543
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Speaker 6: like bumps conly out of the way, so Gobert just

544
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Speaker 6: pushes him down, grabs the board and takes off. I

545
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Speaker 6: thought that was pretty funny. Kind of a sloppy beef

546
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Speaker 6: to be quite honest, for Rudy Goberry's the tallest guy

547
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Speaker 6: on the court by a mile. The third of the

548
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Speaker 6: season though for Rudy Gobert, and also the tenth all

549
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Speaker 6: time since I've been tracking these beefs, and I gotta

550
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Speaker 6: give a shout out to the Big Beef track or

551
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Speaker 6: Big beeftracker dot Com has seriously beefed up the stats here.

552
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Speaker 6: Look at this. We're talking about season stats. We're talking

553
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Speaker 6: about single game stats, all time and all time single

554
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Speaker 6: game leaders. The beef is back, baby, But as much

555
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Speaker 6: as I love the big buff boys, it was truly

556
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Speaker 6: the smallies.

557
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Speaker 3: You can take this.

558
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, honestly, Skeets, We're gonna talk about Chris Paul

559
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Speaker 6: later and how he's trying to chase down John Stockton's

560
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 6: assist record. Those stats are wearing a goose suit, no

561
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Speaker 6: doubt about it. Ain't no way anybody's catching those. I

562
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 6: think they've been inflated a little bit. But the smallies

563
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 6: were great for the Jazz in this one season high

564
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Speaker 6: thirty six for Donovan Mitchell, season high thirty for Mike Conley.

565
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Speaker 6: He had thirteen in the fourth and Rudy Gobert did

566
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Speaker 6: his part in the fourth quarter as well, had the

567
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Speaker 6: Beef some solid defense on Harrison Barnes on the King's

568
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Speaker 6: last real possession, and made six free throws in the

569
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Speaker 6: last two and a half minutes. Lee, I think you're

570
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Speaker 6: gonna love that. Couple of interesting things in this game. First,

571
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Speaker 6: just like Kyle Lowry feels like he's been in Miami

572
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 6: heat for a long time. I feel like Mike Conley

573
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Speaker 6: feels like he's been on the Jazz for his entire career. Like,

574
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Speaker 6: I don't understand how that makes sense. It's only his

575
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Speaker 6: third season. I remember his first season being very rough,

576
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Speaker 6: But I also feel like he's played fifteen years for

577
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Speaker 6: the Jazz. Postgame, Quinn Snyder had a great quote. He

578
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Speaker 6: said this about Mike Conley. I think he'd be a

579
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Speaker 6: great quarterback. I think he'd probably be a heck of

580
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Speaker 6: a tennis player. I'm sure he's a good bowler, go

581
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Speaker 6: down the line. We all know he can golf. I

582
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: bet he can pick any position on the baseball field.

583
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Speaker 6: That's the end of the quote from Quinn Snyder. But

584
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Speaker 6: like I'm about thinking, Mike Conley is maybe the best

585
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Speaker 6: athlete in the NBA outside of Lebron James. We know

586
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Speaker 6: his dad was a gold medalist in the triple jump,

587
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: So Mike Conley junior probably good at track and field.

588
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 6: He's ambidextrous. I assume he's good at soccer, boxing, and

589
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: hockey alongside basketball. When he won horse shooting right handed,

590
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Speaker 6: what can't Mike Conley do?

591
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, mister perfect, is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah,

592
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: and throw his own touchdown pass and then go catch

593
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Speaker 4: it in the end zone. I like that. I'd like

594
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Speaker 4: to see him battle Curry in all honesty, Steph Curry

595
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Speaker 4: in like a bunch of sporting events, like like golf

596
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: and starts and bowling, like those hand eye coordination sports.

597
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: I think would be a hell of a battle. But yeah,

598
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Speaker 4: it's pretty impressive victory by the Jazz. You know, they've

599
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Speaker 4: got a great record. They're up there with one of

600
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Speaker 4: the best teams in the league. The Kings put up

601
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: a fight test. I don't know how much you watched

602
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: this one. They had a chance to actually win this game.

603
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: They were right there. They just wouldn't go away.

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Speaker 10: You know.

605
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes was playing well. But yeah, anything to add

606
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: to this one.

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a delightful game from the Sacramento Kings. But Michael,

608
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Speaker 3: I'm good at Horse. Conley was a phenomenal in this game.

609
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: Every time he's he has a good game. It's hard

610
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Speaker 3: not to think about pandemic Horse that was on ESPN

611
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: when he was shooting lefty, righty from all parts of

612
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Speaker 3: his private gym as they went and filmed him in

613
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Speaker 3: his own abode. Of course he's gonna be great.

614
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Speaker 4: We did two podcasts on that. Yeah, two podcasts on

615
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: the NBA Horse Tournament.

616
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Speaker 3: Whatever people want, we got it. The only thing Michael

617
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: Conley can't do this year is playing back to backs,

618
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: and that's smart. They're saving him for the postseason because

619
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Speaker 3: he is, like Trey mentioned about Kyle Lowry, Yeah, he's

620
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Speaker 3: their outlet. When Donovan Mitchell needs somebody to do something

621
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Speaker 3: on the perimeter to make a play, it's Mike Conley

622
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: and he has money. It is. Yeah, this part of

623
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Speaker 3: his career, it's perfect for him where he's totally accepted

624
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: being the secondary guy. It was weird for him when

625
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: he got traded from Memphis to be this secondary ball handler.

626
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: But it's working out perfect. And yeah, they look extremely strong.

627
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just my eyes late at

628
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: night watching games, but it feels like Rudy Gobert's got

629
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: a little more touch, a little more footwork this year.

630
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 3: Can you grow offensively? And year whatever year he's in

631
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Speaker 3: this deep it's year nine for him in his career.

632
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: But they absolutely need him to be able to command

633
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: the ball and for guys to feel confident with him

634
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Speaker 3: to give him the ball because it can't just be

635
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: outside in and so Rudy. Yeah, he didn't have a

636
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: huge game offensively, but as Trey mentioned, he bang home

637
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: some free throws. The footwork looks good. They look like

638
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: obviously a great team. And then from the other side,

639
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Davion Mitchell had another solid game. I know he's not

640
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: shooting the ball incredibly well this year, but this rookie

641
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: class so so so good, and I don't think a

642
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: lot of people really expected it. Obviously Mobiley and Barns,

643
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: but down the line like Davion Mitchell and Giddy and

644
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: Franz Wagner. There there's some really solid players in this

645
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: right Davion Mitchell can do it on both ends, so

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: him him hounding, the Mitchell battle, Davion hounding Donovan was

647
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: was pretty solid going up and down the floor in

648
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: this one.

649
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: It was.

650
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: It was a really good game.

651
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: Lee, Is this considered a good loss for the Kings?

652
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 4: You know, drops into three and four? But they're in

653
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: this game against the Jazz or No?

654
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

655
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 7: Yes, so, I mean they did battle and they were not.

656
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 7: But the real concern for the Kings right now is

657
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 7: Donovan Isdaron Fox. He can't shoot. He cannot shoot from

658
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: anywhere right now. He's numbers down every shooting fifteen percent

659
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 7: from three point range. Now, he's never been a great

660
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 7: three point shooter, but six for thirty nine on the season,

661
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 7: and even at the free throw line he's been over

662
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 7: seventy his entire career, he's twenty four for thirty eight.

663
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 7: So he is just.

664
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: Really God damn Wilson ball.

665
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, ah, yeah, maybe that's it.

666
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: Excuse from my guy. Yeah, this is tough to watch

667
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 4: right now. He's shock a little bit by what's going on.

668
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: He cannot score. Sorry to cut you after, No, just I.

669
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 7: Mean, we were expecting this year to really I think

670
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 7: he was hovering in the sort of All Star conversation

671
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 7: last year and it was like okay, now it's like okay,

672
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: now take that step up, become you know, almost a

673
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 7: twenty ten every night guy. And in fact, it's going

674
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 7: the opposite way for him. His confidence is down. He

675
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 7: just doesn't look like he's able to sort of get

676
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 7: to his spot and again, let him shoot the three

677
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 7: or your wand if a guy's going to shoot fifteen

678
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 7: percent from downtown, So yeah, really struggling for him right now.

679
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: Final note here, just go back Mike Conley. It just

680
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: flowed up his basketball reference page. His two nicknames, Mike

681
00:32:53,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: Conley and he guesses money make. That's money make one

682
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: I can't remember ever being called that, and the other

683
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: one I've never even hurt. So it's got to do

684
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: with sort of where he plays. I guess in Utah.

685
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: If that's a sort of a hint, it's it sounds

686
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: like money Mike in a weird way. It's an m

687
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: m nickname. It's it's Mike range Mike. No mountain Mike,

688
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: Mountain Mike. So I bring this up because how is

689
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: it how do we not have horse Mic? There? We

690
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: have mountain Mike Horse Mike Horse. Horse Mike is a

691
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: funny nickname.

692
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: I like, it's no, that's horse.

693
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so what Mike. Let's get horse Mike basketball

694
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: reference up on Mike Conley's Uh there other action. There's

695
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: only three games left to touch on any or none

696
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: of them, if you want to ask. Chris Paul third

697
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: all time and assists sons beating Pelicans won twelve one.

698
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: Lebron and Westbrook got the Lakers past the Rockets again.

699
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: That was a little too close for comfort. Probably for

700
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: Lakers fans. One nineteen, one seventeen, Porter Junior had to

701
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: look at a three decent look. Actually that didn't drop,

702
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: So Lakers got the victory, and then Yannis led the

703
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 4: Bucks to the one seventeen eighty nine route over the

704
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: Detroit Pistons. Of those three games, I think you.

705
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: Want to touch on, Well, the Bucks are interesting because

706
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: the champs are four and four, just four and four.

707
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: We expect them to be, you know, one to two

708
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: in the East, mainly because of injuries. Drew Holliday has

709
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: been out, Brook has been out, Chris Middleton has been out.

710
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: But now they got a tough little scat of games

711
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: coming up. They got the Knicks, Wizards. Yeah, that's tough. Philly, Nicks, Boston, Atlanta,

712
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: and the Lakers in a run here. So if their

713
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: injuries aren't there, you know, if they if they're injury sorry,

714
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: if the guys aren't coming back quite soon, then yeah,

715
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: they could go on a little run where there's sub

716
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: five hundred and that would be really really weird. Ill.

717
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: We'll also mention Devin book where we talk about the

718
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: Wilson ball. He had something interesting to say postgame. He

719
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: struggled in this one, and he had this to say

720
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: about the balls that it just feels like they're different

721
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: from game to game. And I haven't heard anyone else

722
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: say that that they're just not the same ball, not

723
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: the same feel from game to game, which is very

724
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: strange to hear. But I bring that up to bring

725
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: up the athletic Seth Partner did a little analysis where

726
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, about a twelfth of the way through the season,

727
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: so he can look at the numbers, and the shooting

728
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: percentages are down from last year, but that's because last

729
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: year was an anomaly. It is normal to have bad

730
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: shooting percentages at the beginning of seasons, but last year

731
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 3: and the bubble to a degree where an anomaly because

732
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: it just seems like shooting in an empty gym raised percentages.

733
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: But it's expected that percentages are down. Core to Seth

734
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 3: Partner that this will it'll sort of even out. They'll

735
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: come back. And so, yeah, they're down until like thirty

736
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 3: four percent from three point land, but it'll come back.

737
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: Apparently this will some ball thing. Well, I think it

738
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: may just go away when some shots start going down.

739
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: Because we had C. J. McCollums saying, I'm going to

740
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: talk to the Players Association. We're gonna have it a

741
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: roundtable about that. We're gonna have a zoom, We're each

742
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: gonna hold the ball in front of the camera. We're

743
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: gonna talk about it. He said, We're gonna have a

744
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: discussion about the balls. What what, what can be done.

745
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: It's either you go back to the old balls or

746
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: you don't, and it ain't gonna happen. I mean, the

747
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: only thing I think that uh would appease the players

748
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: is what you know, slap Spaulding over the Wilson again

749
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: and everybody will be happy. It's not it's not changing and.

750
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: It's not the synthetic ball of whatever year that was.

751
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: I think.

752
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: That that they actually did get rid of when they

753
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: hit the New Year in the calendar year there, because

754
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: they're like it's cutting up my fingers, Like I can't

755
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: shoot with this thick. Yeah, I'm with it. Ask they're

756
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: not doing that with this if it's it's basically the

757
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: same ball, just a different brand, and they'll get used

758
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: to it, they'll start hitting threes and then this won't

759
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: be a story.

760
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And it's common again to start slow,

761
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: so it's I find Yeah, but the Devin Booker comment

762
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: that the balls are different has not been said by anyone,

763
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: and it's as Samue Noo says in the stream, Tam,

764
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: no two balls are the same. The balls should always

765
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: be the same. They're not snowflakes, they're not wagers. The

766
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: balls cannot be different. But maybe you know, the humidity

767
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: change into the seasons, maybe Devon gets in there and

768
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: the ball's a little moist as JD like, oh.

769
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: God, I'm not talking about moisture.

770
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 6: Jesus, stay tuned to the No Dunks. TikTok, there's a

771
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 6: banger coming out later.

772
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: I can't wait, h Lee. I asked you with the

773
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: Kings in losing whether that was like a good loss.

774
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: Can I flip it on its head and ask you

775
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: whether the Lakers beating the Rockets was a bad win?

776
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: Is that a thing?

777
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 7: I wish Kevin Porter's three went in so bad because

778
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 7: there was a massive controversy with a couple of minutes

779
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 7: to go in this game. I'm not going to go

780
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 7: into the nitty gritty because it's quite a technical and complicated.

781
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 7: The checkout Dave Mcmenamuon's feet, he has a great rundown

782
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 7: on it. Basically, Ken Bezemore went to the free throw

783
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 7: line hit two free throws that he shouldn't have been taken,

784
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 7: so the scorers counted them, and then in the time

785
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 7: out the ref said, actually he wasn't supposed to shoot those.

786
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: They weren't in the penalty, so they took those free throws.

787
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: Away, and the Lakers were The Lakers were like, what

788
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: do you mean, we don't even get the possession.

789
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they've got a point there. But I also

790
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 7: will point out often throughout the league, if a guy

791
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: takes a three pointer and it's called to three, sometimes

792
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: the referees will go on a time out and say,

793
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 7: actually his foot is on the line and only give

794
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 7: two points.

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: So it's not completely like, you know, I know this.

796
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: This is a.

797
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 7: Different situation in that sense, but it's still like the

798
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 7: referees they they kind of did the wrong thing by

799
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 7: correcting the mistake that was made by the scorers. I think.

800
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 7: So anyway, it would have been hilarious if the Ruckets

801
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 7: had pulled off this victory, because you know, the Lakers

802
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 7: would have been writing a letter saying.

803
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: We deserve to win that game.

804
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 7: We shouldn't have got that that the NBA would have said,

805
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 7: we're not playing at the again. Sorry you missed out,

806
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 7: but anyway, it doesn't matter. The Lakers won, very very

807
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 7: weird situation. They've go so yeah, check out Dave mcmanhamon's feed.

808
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 7: He's got all threaded there. It's about twenty five threads long.

809
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 7: That's why I'm not going to go through.

810
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: Every five tweets.

811
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 7: It's long, man, it's long.

812
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 3: It's long.

813
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: I love Daving minimum. I could have told you in

814
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 4: literally three sentences what happened you did at fourteen?

815
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 7: It's fourteen, okay, yeah, that's okay.

816
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it wasn't an inspiring Lakers win. No, regardless

817
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: of these this little foul snaff who there?

818
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean the Lakers basically said, we

819
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: played defense once against you, and that's all we need

820
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 6: to do. You know, they held the Rockets to eighty

821
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 6: five points in their previous win. This one, they said,

822
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 6: let's see if we can win it playing just offense,

823
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 6: and they did. Though. I will say Jalen Green is

824
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: a lot of fun to watch. He almost stole this

825
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: one for the Rockets, hitting a couple of threes that

826
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 6: he shot one hundred and fifty thousand feet into the air.

827
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: I think that step back one over ad is hilariously.

828
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 6: The moves were crazy and the launch angle shot onto

829
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: the exit velocity.

830
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: On that one launch angle.

831
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 6: They had de ice that thing on the way down.

832
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 6: But he is fun to watch. Made five threes last night,

833
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 6: had a couple of dunks, and most of his shots

834
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: ended up being wide open on the three pointers because

835
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 6: the Lakers just were not tuned in. But I don't know,

836
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 6: the Lakers shouldn't give up one seventeen to the Rockets.

837
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 6: But also they're like, we got Lebron, He's gonna play

838
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 6: hard in the fourth quarter. That's all it takes.

839
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what he did, and that's the that's

840
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 4: why it's like, you know, a quote unquote bad win.

841
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, shouldn't need Lebron to save your ass

842
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 4: versus a Rockets scene that doesn't even want to win

843
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: these games. But he did and they won and they're fine,

844
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: and their records okay, it's probably just yeah, they're not.

845
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: They're definitely not locked in defensively though tasks. You know,

846
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: they're not stopping a lot of teams here, not just

847
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: the Rockets last night.

848
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: No, they're struggling. They're struggling defensively, there's a lot of

849
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: watching and yeah, they get bailed out in the end.

850
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: It's to me it was really similar to the Suns

851
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: Pelicans games of Pelicans and nearly stolen, but the Sons

852
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: decided in the second half, Oh yeah we got this. Yeah,

853
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 3: they're not on the same page. And even Anthony Davis

854
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: isn't really locked in at all times. Who is there,

855
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, the best player defensively that makes them go. So, yeah,

856
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: it's chill time for the Lakers. They'll bounce up into

857
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: the standings pretty soon.

858
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. The milestone in that Son's game Chris Paul third

859
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: all time now and assists. He passed two guys last night,

860
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: Mark Jackson and Steve Nash who were you know. The

861
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: difference was one assist between the two of them. So

862
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: Chris Paul blew by them. But yeah, very far behind

863
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: John Stockton Ley. I don't think he's gonna be catching them.

864
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: Maybe kids in second, is that right?

865
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 7: I think that might be right.

866
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 4: Yeah's ability that he could get to his level. Might

867
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: that might be even a little far touched but not John.

868
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 7: Just one thing, don't say anything about John Stockton getting

869
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 7: favorable assist totals at harm because someone's gonna tweet at

870
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 7: you and say, lookie, got the same on the road,

871
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 7: so that even the away scorers were also favoring because

872
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 7: it's happened to me before. I said, I think he

873
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: got a few favorable assistos and someone has had all

874
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 7: the stats broken down by home and road, so get it.

875
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Chris oh just as well, probably talks a

876
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: little trash about Yeah, he's a pretty good follow on

877
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 3: Twitter for that. Just ye just given it to Utah

878
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: fans and turn every day.

879
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 7: Chris Paul just quickly as well. Shooting the ball down

880
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 7: the stretch. They looked about a surprise he's looked this season.

881
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 7: I think a couple of those mid range classics from

882
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 7: Chris Paul talking a bit of trash, but they shouldn't

883
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 7: have been down twenty to the Pelicans.

884
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: So anyway, I'll slip this in here too. I don't

885
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: want to do it to the kid, but Kid Cuttingham

886
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: is off to a rough start in two games of

887
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: his NBA career, two for fourteen last night, including oh

888
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 4: for nine from three. He's shooting thirteen point six percent

889
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: again through two games, but he's over fourteen ly on

890
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: three pointers. That is the longest drought to start a

891
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: career since this guy went over twenty five in his

892
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: first twenty games for the Celtics. Do you know who

893
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 4: it is or do any of you that didn't see

894
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 4: this weird stack going around?

895
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 7: I mean Antoine Wolcock to me, God, it's a more

896
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 7: recent nineteen twenty nineteen twenty season.

897
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like he's a big guy, so you're not

898
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: going to think of him as like a you know,

899
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: a wing sort of letting it fly three points. So

900
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 4: he still shoots him.

901
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 7: He's yeah, guy, he's still like, yeah, Robert Williams.

902
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: No, not that big, not that Williams, Yeah, bigger.

903
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 7: Yeah. What's his name, Grant Williams.

904
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, Grant Williams started oh for twenty

905
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 4: five from three in his first twenty games. Cam Reddish

906
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: also started over fourteen in four games for Atlanta when

907
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: he started that year. But yeah, Caid rough start there trading.

908
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: But you know, we don't need to go overboard on it.

909
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 4: That just sucks. You can't score right now. He's number

910
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: one pick that that's bad. I get it.

911
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 6: He is dragon laying and honestly a little bit of

912
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 6: trash talk from Jannis as Will. The Bucks came into

913
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 6: this one having lost three straight, and after the blowout,

914
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 6: Yana said, thank god we won a game. I was

915
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: worried we're going to start tanking for the number one pick. Awkward.

916
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true to think about that part. Yeah.

917
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

918
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: Yannis also had some funny lines about, you know, get

919
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: Brooke back here on a place center. Yeah, he's They're

920
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: loose man after that title for sure. Okay, we're going

921
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 4: to take our first break. Then we'll get to the

922
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons update. We'll hit the beach for a few questions.

923
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere, all right back with no dunks. We'll

924
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: hit the beach in a second. But let's slip this

925
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: in here. Though I'm not sure anyone cares anymore at

926
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: this point. ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, she appeared on NBA Today

927
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: on Tuesday afternoon, provided a little insight on the chances

928
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 4: of Ben Simmons trying to play again for the seventy

929
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: six ers. According to Shelburne, Simmons is working with mental

930
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: health professionals through the National Basketball Players Association so through

931
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: the union to reach a state of mental readiness to

932
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: who though he is not offering the organization any details

933
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: on those efforts, so there's like frustration. It sounds like

934
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: tasks from the Sixers. Simmons says he's getting helped through

935
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 4: the union, but Sixers are like, you're not sharing any

936
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: of that info with us, and you don't want to

937
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: see our doctors. It's a bit of a mess here.

938
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: But do you have anything to add to this? Again?

939
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 4: Update on Simmons, I guess you want to call that.

940
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: I guess I just never thought of Ben Simmons being

941
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: this much of a stubborn guy. He is really late

942
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: and putting his foot down here. He wasn't with the team.

943
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: He came back and said, you know what, I'll come

944
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: back so I get paid. But that's all I'm gonna do.

945
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk to you about what's going on

946
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: with me mentally, I'm not gonna work with the team

947
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: at all. Joel Embiid tried before the home opener, you know,

948
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: when he grabbed the mic to say, hey, he's our brother.

949
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: He tried to bring him in. Daryl Morey also is

950
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: trying to bring him in somewhat. Get on the floor

951
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: and will be able to trade you. But now We're

952
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: just at a point where Ben is, you know, a

953
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: line in the sand, and it's the game of chicken.

954
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: Will Darryl Mory bite first? Or will will Ben Simmons

955
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: get in a uniform for for once. This is, you know,

956
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: weeks into the season. It's obvious that he just doesn't

957
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: want to play. Daryl Morrey doesn't want to trade him

958
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: at this point. He doesn't have a package to trade him,

959
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: and uh, it's it's yeah, it's a game of chicken,

960
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: that's it. Ben Simmons is more stubborn than even Jimmy Butler,

961
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: even Anthony Davis. Jimmy Butler at least would suit up

962
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: after he demanded a trade and said he didn't want

963
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: to be there. Anthony Davis at least suited up. And

964
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons isn't negotiating, isn't talking to anyone while he

965
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: is getting paid by the team. So it's very very

966
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: very very rough for the Sixers brass here at this point.

967
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: And as Darryl Moury said, oh, wait out this for

968
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: four years, if I if I need to four seasons,

969
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: you're under contract, Ben, you know, bite are you gonna

970
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: bite here? Ben? I just didn't think Ben would be

971
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: this hardheaded about I thought he would at least suit

972
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: up at some point after coming back. But the fact

973
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: that he isn't talking to the team about what he's

974
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: going through, he isn't dealing with the team. It's surprising

975
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: to me, considering they are paying.

976
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 11: Him try anything that I'm not super surprised that he's

977
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 11: not sharing with the Sixers, because hey, he doesn't really

978
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 11: owe it to the Sixers to inform them about the

979
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 11: way he's handling his mental health struggles.

980
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 6: And honestly, I don't feel like the Sixers have been

981
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 6: super supportive of him. They tried to trade him last year,

982
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 6: then they brought him back. Then when he was at

983
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 6: his lowest point, they all threw him under the bench,

984
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 6: only to try and talk him back. Now they're wanting

985
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 6: to hear from Ben Simmons about his mental health struggles

986
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 6: so they can get him back and trade him. It's

987
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 6: like every time they just want him to do what

988
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 6: they want so that they can get rid of him.

989
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 6: So I don't see any sort of solution to this

990
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 6: scenario except for a trade. And if Daryl Morey is

991
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 6: really ready to go for four years, then we're probably

992
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 6: going to keep hearing about this for four years. I

993
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 6: doubt that's the case, but it's not surprising to me

994
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 6: that Simmons doesn't feel like sharing what the seventy six ers.

995
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 6: I don't really blame him for it.

996
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's an important part in uh Ramona's

997
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: and Wosh was assisting her in this article, and it

998
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: reads quote Sixers find Simmons nearly two million dollars for

999
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: missing games, practices, and meetings earlier this season, but sources

1000
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: said the team stopped finding him once he told them

1001
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: on October twenty second that he wasn't mentally ready to play.

1002
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: There is a provision in the collective bargaining agreement that

1003
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: protects players' salaries for failing to render services if such

1004
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: failure has been caused by the player's mental disability. End quote.

1005
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 4: Now why is that there?

1006
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: To me?

1007
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: Whoever's telling this to Shelburn and to woj, this is

1008
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: the Sixer saying, look, he's using this as an excuse.

1009
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: He is just saying he's not mentally ready to play,

1010
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: so he can no longer be find by us. But

1011
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 4: we want to see all this. You know, what's going

1012
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: on with him talking to his doctors like this is

1013
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: like his counter to them saying you've got to show

1014
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: up or we're going to find you. Now. I hope

1015
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons gets whatever assistance he needs, be it from

1016
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 4: Sixers doctors or his own doctors. But I think that's

1017
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: in this article Lee because the Sixers are saying bullshit,

1018
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: that's my read on yeah, And I'm not saying that's

1019
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: what actually happening, but I think that's why that's in

1020
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 4: this article.

1021
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that the relationship is so broken right now

1022
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 7: that if Ben Simmons is having mental issues, then they

1023
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 7: deserve to be treated with respect. But if he's just

1024
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 7: saying that because he knows that's a card you can

1025
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 7: play where you don't have to prove it, then that

1026
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 7: becomes a tricky situation as well. And I think, you know,

1027
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 7: I understand both sides here, people saying you know that

1028
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 7: stuff is private, yes, but under these circumstances, the Sixers

1029
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: just saying, well, we're going to need to see proof

1030
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 7: of that because we don't believe it. That's what it

1031
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 7: sounds like to me, because let's say Ben Simmons had

1032
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 7: an ACL injury and he was rehapping off the side

1033
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 7: being treated with doctors away from the team. Wouldn't the

1034
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 7: Sixers also say, well, can you at least show us

1035
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 7: what your doctors are looking at and treating? And I

1036
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 7: think this case, again, because of everything else that's going on,

1037
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 7: Philadelphia just wants to say, if that's true, then prove it.

1038
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 7: If you can't prove it, then we need to know

1039
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 7: really what's going on. That's the fine line here because

1040
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 7: the mental health, again, it's a very serious issue and

1041
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 7: should be treated such. But if someone is, you know,

1042
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 7: maybe hiding behind that, then I can see why Philadelphia

1043
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 7: wants to see what it is that he's dealing with.

1044
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 6: I think this is why he's not sharing with the

1045
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 6: seventy six ers. This is exactly the reason why they're

1046
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 6: basically saying, we don't believe you prove it to us,

1047
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 6: So why would he share with them?

1048
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: Well, well, why wouldn't they speculate on that? When he

1049
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: was playing all summer, and he was training all summer,

1050
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: and he was playing, and then he didn't show up

1051
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 3: for training camp, they washed their.

1052
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 6: Hands of him. They were like, we want you gone

1053
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 6: until they couldn't treat him. Now we want you back.

1054
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Well, they want wanted him to be around the team.

1055
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: They would like him to. They want him to be

1056
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: around the team. They didn't over the summer. They did

1057
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: not want him on the team. They were trying to

1058
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: trade him all summer. But he has to show up.

1059
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 7: Well, they weren't trying to trade him. That Morey was

1060
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 7: was basically not trying to tride him.

1061
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 6: He was trying to know they were trying to trade him. Seriously,

1062
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: Ben Simmons, they've been trying to trade him since he

1063
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 6: passed it away.

1064
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: Well, either way, camp starts, he has to show up.

1065
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: So he's playing basketball all summer, you know what, not

1066
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: going to show up. I'm not showing up. You have to.

1067
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: That is part of the process. That's the only way

1068
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: you're going to get dealt. You want to be dealt, fine,

1069
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: but you got to show up like Jimmy Butler, like

1070
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis. I'm not going to show up over not

1071
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: paying you. Oh, show up. So it's difficult. I think

1072
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't a very it wasn't a good

1073
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: faith uh negotiation here. It wasn't. And from from both sides,

1074
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: I understand why he would be upset. Why post game

1075
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: after he didn't dunk the guys Joel and beating Doc

1076
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Rivers had some comments, but he didn't he didn't own

1077
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: up to it. And now so it's understandable that I

1078
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: understand from the front office perspective that doesn't feel like

1079
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: a good faith negotiating, good faith situation.

1080
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: They just have to trade him. They have to trade him, yeah,

1081
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: and or or don't or don't and tell him to

1082
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: go home and that he doesn't need to be around

1083
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: the team and you're not going to you know, find

1084
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 4: him that that's those are the two things. So you

1085
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: either just sit on it and hope somebody panics and

1086
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: offers you more to get them, because that's what you

1087
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: want obviously, you want to help your team's chances. I

1088
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: get all that, or you just do it now. So

1089
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: it's it's really I think this is where we've reached

1090
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: with this part. And look, the mental health issue makes

1091
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: it tricky because you can't say yeah, bullshit, but you

1092
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: can also they want to say, well hold on though

1093
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: like you might just be saying that it appears like

1094
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 4: you're just saying that so you don't get fined.

1095
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 7: But he said he had a back taughtness as well.

1096
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 7: I mean, and it's like, you know, again they sorts

1097
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 7: of injury. He's a tough to totally evaluate. It's like

1098
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 7: I've got a saw back. Okay, well there's not really

1099
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 7: much we can show other than okay, let's take all

1100
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 7: sorts of scans and do other tests. See. So that

1101
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 7: that's why the skepticism here. But I mean both sides

1102
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 7: are basically just digging their heels in right now.

1103
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, and so they don't trust each other.

1104
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Darren Moury, you know he said he goes

1105
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 7: buckle what did he say? Buckle up? He's basically he's saying,

1106
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 7: all right, well, if you're not going to show up,

1107
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: then I'm not going to try to trade you, because

1108
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 7: why would I do that right now? I'm not getting

1109
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 7: the offers that I think are significant.

1110
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: So, anyway, do you have a lead? Do you have

1111
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: a story back?

1112
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 7: Sometimes? Yeah, that's that's.

1113
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Because you're playing basketball and all birds that.

1114
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 7: It's not the shoes.

1115
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: It's not let's take off all of our shoes and

1116
00:53:50,040 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: let's hit the beach and answer a few questions. Yeah,

1117
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: a few questions from you guys. Keep sending them in

1118
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: No dunks at the Athletic dot Com, tweet them in

1119
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: at No dunsinc. Or leave him in the YouTube comments

1120
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: below this video or any of our videos. All right,

1121
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: first one here from Gavin. Hello, No Dunk's crew. My

1122
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: email is pretty simple. After seeing Scotty Barnes in these

1123
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: first few games and generally doubting the pick before the preseason,

1124
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: I've definitely come around. His game looks very similar to

1125
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: what Sean Livingston looked like post injury. Unbelievable playmaker, not

1126
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: a great score now, obviously, the fact that Scotty is

1127
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: a rookie and is still learning, that's huge. Sean Livingston

1128
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: had the raw skill advantage over Scotty. Who knows what

1129
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 4: Livingston's career could have become had it not been for

1130
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 4: that injury. So the premise of this email is, again

1131
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: hopefully straightforward, Scotty Barnes versus Sean Livingston, when it's all

1132
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 4: said and done, who will have had the better NBA career?

1133
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 4: Kind regards. Again, that's from Gavin, and Lee is already laughing.

1134
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 7: How did this question get into the beach already? I mean,

1135
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 7: if this was the last show of the season, last

1136
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 7: you know, like okay, maybe we can just like all right,

1137
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 7: we're running out of question, let's throw this one and

1138
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 7: how can we possibly evaluate that right now? Sean Livingston obviously,

1139
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 7: you know, we know the numbers don't jump off the

1140
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 7: Paige atchal for his career, but a very very solid veteran,

1141
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 7: especially in those Lady years with the Warriors, coming off

1142
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 7: the bench. He was a bucket in the low post there.

1143
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 7: He had that to his game and just really fit

1144
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: a role. But I mean, Scotty Barnes has played how

1145
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 7: many games, six or even that many as that he

1146
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 7: played that, I mean, you know, with respect to Sean Livingston,

1147
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 7: because he was a very great, great guy, great veteran,

1148
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 7: I would hope, I would hope that guy, no, well,

1149
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 7: I would hope that, you know, Scottie Barnes would have

1150
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 7: a better career because Sean's was affected severely because of

1151
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 7: that that knee injury that he suffered, which always gets mentioned.

1152
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 7: I think there was a question about that in mail

1153
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 7: bag one time.

1154
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: So you know, but I don't know who this is

1155
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: more disrespectful to this email, Sean Livingston, who's obviously the

1156
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 4: champion had a pretty story in history, or Scotty Barnes

1157
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 4: compared after seven games to Sean Livingston tasks. I don't

1158
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: know what the answer is. To that.

1159
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: Well.

1160
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's really just to talk about Scotty Barnes.

1161
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we know what Sean Livingston did. He was

1162
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: he was extremely solid and bouncing back from an injury

1163
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: I heard he had. But Scotty is it's an interesting comparison,

1164
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: I guess because really it's like a guy who can

1165
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 3: handle without a shot. I mean, that's what it really

1166
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: comes down to. It's interesting that he says Sean Livingston

1167
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: had the raw skill advantage over Scotty. Is that true?

1168
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 6: Sean Livingston was awesome coming out of high school.

1169
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: I didn't really have problems with that. I mean, Scotty

1170
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 4: Barnes looks like obviously an incredibly athletic guy too. But yeah,

1171
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 4: I would agree with Trey. I think maybe Livingston at

1172
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 4: before the injury for sure.

1173
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 6: And I will say Scotty Barnes also seems like a

1174
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 6: great guy with that smile. Yeah, both seem to be

1175
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: great guys. I think when we're looking at their basketball

1176
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 6: reference pages in twenty years, I think Scotty Barnes will

1177
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 6: have more things on his basketball reference page, more individual accomplishments.

1178
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: Yep.

1179
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be tough to get to three NBA championships,

1180
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: which Sean Livingston has, So take your pick there. That

1181
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 6: being said, I think this is the wrong Warriors role

1182
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 6: player to compare Scotty Barnes to Scotty Barnes might be

1183
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 6: the new Andre Iguidala. Good handle, good athlete, good defender,

1184
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: solid scorer, maybe not a shooter. Seems like he'll be

1185
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 6: also a great guy and a good glue guy, like

1186
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 6: an ultimate glue guy like Scotty Barnes. Seems like the

1187
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 6: kind of guy already at age twenty, you could add

1188
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 6: to a team that's one piece away and he's able

1189
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 6: to guard threes, He's able to guard fours. Maybe he

1190
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 6: guards a five here and there. He hits a clutch

1191
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 6: three if you need it. He scores on the break.

1192
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 6: I don't know, what do you think? One time All

1193
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 6: Star Andre Guidala as well, got some all defense, got

1194
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 6: some all rookie. I think these are things Scotty Barnes

1195
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 6: could achieve.

1196
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could. I could see a scenario

1197
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: where Scotty Barnes, if he was the lead guy on

1198
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: a team like a Niggodala with Philadelphia, where yeah, maybe

1199
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: gets a little a little shine, gets some accolades, but

1200
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: not like that's not going to be a title contender. Like,

1201
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: you know, Iggy can't be your best player probably to

1202
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: win a title, you want him to be your your

1203
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: third or fourth best guy. I could sort of see

1204
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: that with with Scottie Barnes after seven in the NBA.

1205
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: Sure a funny question, and yeah, just a little little

1206
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: Scotty talk. He has played seven games, Lee, he's only

1207
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: just one and he's gonna miss tonight's game though as well. Injury, Yeah,

1208
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 4: got the thumb injury there. Okay, let's just move on

1209
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: to our next one. Here good a no dunk a

1210
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: ruse JD get ready here fired up? Skip's called the

1211
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: Knicks Bingbong Guy bing bob there it is the off

1212
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: court MVP this week. Side note, did I say that?

1213
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 6: I think I said it, I was gonna say I

1214
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 6: remember saying that.

1215
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, anyway, somebody on this show called the Nicks

1216
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: Bingbong Guy. Go ahead, Jad bing Bong the off court MVP.

1217
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: That feels like a no Dunks Award, and I can't

1218
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 4: believe it doesn't already exist exist. So bing Bong might

1219
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: be the easy winner right now. But who is at

1220
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: the table for the no Dunks off Court most Valuable Player,

1221
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 4: Bing Bong, bing your bom, Bing Bom. That's from bing

1222
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: Bo from jas.

1223
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 6: It's from Bingbong who wrote in thanks bing Bong. Uh Yeah,

1224
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 6: bing Bong guy, he is the MVP, though he may

1225
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 6: be splitting votes with us. I saw that both of

1226
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 6: them guys went to the games together. Unfortunately, they did

1227
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 6: take a dancing out the Raptors, so tough one for

1228
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 6: their MVP case. But I got a few other candidates

1229
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 6: for y'all here sitting at the table. How about the

1230
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 6: NBA Competition Committee saying, hey, we're good with files. Files

1231
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 6: are fine. This year it made the league more watchable.

1232
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 6: It's made it a lot more fun, and everybody's talking

1233
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 6: about how cool it is that there are fewer free

1234
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 6: throws and fewer whack foul calls. So I would put

1235
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 6: them at the table.

1236
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: They're at the table. Do they have the narrative though,

1237
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: Do they have the narrative bing Bong narrative to take

1238
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: this home? But truly on the floor, Yeah, for sure,

1239
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: for sure. Actually, it's interesting to hear Moniu mccutcheen saying

1240
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: that it may be going pendulum, maybe going a little

1241
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: too far, and that guys are you know, being knocked

1242
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: off their path, and we're doing this in real time.

1243
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: We're contacting the referee and saying, you know, guys are

1244
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: getting hit and maybe got to figure this out. I

1245
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: think there anyways, they're on it. They're on it. But yes,

1246
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: I agree on the table they ordered the wine that

1247
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: that rule change? Ordered the wine? What wine? What a

1248
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: rule change?

1249
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: Drink what wine?

1250
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at the table. The referees are at the table.

1251
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotcha.

1252
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 6: You know MANI Mcutcheon's wearing a bow tie at the table.

1253
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 4: The committee probably, yeah, leader, I thought he was the

1254
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: head guy. Well yeah, not the committee for the officials Association. Yeah.

1255
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: Just a couple of things I keep hearing on different podcasts,

1256
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 4: like how like they're allowing so much more like bumping

1257
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: and like grabbing and stuff like that, and they're not

1258
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 4: calling it in watching you know what already feels like

1259
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: a million games. That to me is not what's going

1260
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: on out there. They're allowing a defensive guy who's trying

1261
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: to move his feet to try to go straight up

1262
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 4: at the rim. They're allowing contact when an offensive guy

1263
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 4: makes contact. That's where that and this is beautiful. I

1264
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: love it. I think it's like, I get it, it's

1265
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 4: always going to be difficult, like, oh, how much contact

1266
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: should be allowed? Ooh, should that be free throws? Ooh

1267
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 4: was the defender reaching over? But it's not to me

1268
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: lee grabbing and all this stuff. I keep hearing this

1269
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 4: said it. No, it's it's an offensive gate driving that

1270
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 4: they just are letting go without a whistle cold way

1271
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: more frequently than we'd seen in the year's pattern.

1272
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 7: That's my opinion. Yeah, I think there's just a lot

1273
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 7: more physicality of when guys are banging down low where

1274
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 7: it's not just like we're just going to bail you

1275
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 7: out now with a foul call, as like go out

1276
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 7: of it to cheat each other as long as the

1277
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 7: guy doesn't, you know, like if you whack someone across

1278
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 7: the wrist when they're shooting, you know that's a foul.

1279
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 7: But if the guy is like doing that embellishment where

1280
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 7: he's trying to, you know, wrap his arms underneath the

1281
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 7: other guy, that's what they're not calling, which I love.

1282
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 7: So I think overall the refereeing has been fantastic this

1283
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 7: season because there's been times where that has happened, where

1284
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 7: a guy's gone in his normal natural shooting mode and

1285
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 7: only been hit sort of softly. But it's that's a

1286
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 7: foul if he's doing it naturally. It's just not a

1287
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 7: foul when when you know, some guy's throwing himself onto

1288
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 7: the other guy, or when there's just some incidental contact.

1289
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 7: So it's never going to be perfect. That's the hardest game.

1290
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: And that was gonna be my second point. It's never

1291
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: going to be perfect. It's never going to be like

1292
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: every call, Wow, you guys nailed it. So which one

1293
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 4: would you rather have? The one where the guy always

1294
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: goes to the free throw line more times than not,

1295
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: or the opposite, Yeah, where it's like nope, sorry, guys,

1296
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: whistle swallowed, let's.

1297
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: Go, let's play.

1298
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: I want that one.

1299
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: You know, every day of the week.

1300
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 7: You know, I played pickup ball in Germany in the summer.

1301
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 7: Not a single foul was called. I loved it. So

1302
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 7: it's across the glow.

1303
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: I get shot in pickup ball.

1304
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 7: In pickup ball, and it was a physical Sunday afternoon.

1305
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: Every one had had brunch. The other guy was smoking

1306
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 7: a joint. He was swinging on his can of beer

1307
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 7: as well. He wasn't calling fouls and he was getting

1308
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 7: after competitive game.

1309
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 6: Here's the RAF looking for the files out of the

1310
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 6: playgrounds of Germany.

1311
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 4: Can't see him?

1312
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: Where are they?

1313
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 6: Welcome to the table Competition Committee. A couple more candidates

1314
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 6: for you are tourists, Carnesibus, the architect of the Bulls

1315
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 6: being back god off court MVP. I would say you

1316
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 6: can lock him in for Executive of the year. How

1317
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 6: can we never pick executive of the year in our

1318
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 6: preseason review podcast?

1319
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 4: Because even that that's brutal.

1320
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 6: Oh, it looks like there's gonna be twenty eight candidates

1321
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 6: for Coach of the Year this year.

1322
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: Let's get it to have X. Who's going to have

1323
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 3: a better career our tourist carnichievis or Sean Livingston.

1324
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 4: It's all said and done. That's tough, all right.

1325
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 6: You don't like a GM at the table? How about

1326
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 6: this guy LeVar ball Ooh, Lonzo Ball playing well for

1327
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 6: the Bulls, Lamellow Ball balling out for the Hornets.

1328
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 4: Washington Ball. I feel like we never even hear from

1329
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: him anymore. Uh.

1330
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 6: He sat court side for the first Balls game at

1331
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 6: the United Center. He got he got a T shirt

1332
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 6: from Benny the Ball and he did bring back Big

1333
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 6: Baller brand. They're back making a basically Adidas Stan Smith

1334
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 6: that say triple B on the see.

1335
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. But I felt like there was a

1336
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: it's where he was on ESPN. Oh yeah yeah, three

1337
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: times a week.

1338
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 6: I felt like, so, okay, yeah, he's staying under the

1339
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 6: radar right now, which I think is part of his

1340
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 6: MVP case if I'm being quite honest, him and my

1341
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 6: last person I'm inviting to the table, Graphic Mark. He's

1342
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 6: helped us get our no Dunks TikTok going just went

1343
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 6: over a thousand followers the other day, So shout out

1344
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 6: to Graphic Mark.

1345
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a good one. I mean I was always

1346
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: going to make a case. I mean he's become basically

1347
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 4: Lebron at this point, but JD yeah, oh yeah, with

1348
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 4: the with the work going on behind the scenes. But

1349
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 4: it's just you know, it's sorry, j You've already won

1350
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: this award too many times. Like the narrative is just

1351
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: not there anymore.

1352
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: Not there?

1353
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, okay, that one. Yeah, go check out the

1354
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: TikTok there.

1355
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 3: Speaking of Lebron, this is a pictorial one. But if

1356
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: you've seen the guy who look like Lebron behind Lebron,

1357
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 3: I mean, this is some time travel sad Ringer right

1358
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: there hanging out. You don't see people who look like

1359
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: Lebron James. This is in terms of in terms of

1360
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: body type, the hat as well, the beard. It's just

1361
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 3: you don't see that very often. So to see that

1362
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: shot if you haven't seen it, he was sitting beside

1363
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: behind him at a Lakers game, and to get that

1364
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: perfect look where he's sitting courtside. He's not trying to

1365
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: look like Lebron James. I don't think. I mean maybe,

1366
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: but just just a thing of beauty, just just the

1367
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 3: world working in funny ways.

1368
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: What it's like Klay Thompson.

1369
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 7: Trying that guy did used to play in the league though,

1370
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 7: That guy behind Lebron I think his name's h Patrick,

1371
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 7: someone in the NBA. Yeah, he used to play. He's

1372
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 7: a fashion designer. Now, yeah, true story. I saw I

1373
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 7: saw it going around. Yeah, I can't trust.

1374
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 4: Anything you said. Yeah, facts, I'll have to do some

1375
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 4: research on.

1376
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1377
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Alias can help us out with that.

1378
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing Patrick, Okay? Is that Patrick Ewing? Don't

1379
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: think so.

1380
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 4: No, I hardly do it.

1381
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: Pat Cummings, Patrick.

1382
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 6: I'm seeing Patrick Patrick?

1383
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 7: How about Patrick Patrick, Patrick Christopher, Yeah, that's it, Patrick

1384
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 7: Christopher Okay, okay, And.

1385
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: So what did the Jazz?

1386
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1387
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: But four games for the Jazz?

1388
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: Four games? I guess he made the league. All right?

1389
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 4: One more question here, guys, Hello, No Dunks Ink been

1390
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: listening since the summer of two thousand and seven. I

1391
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 4: finally remember Task calling the Spurs boring?

1392
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: Not true? I prove it, prove it.

1393
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 4: Task calling the Spurs boring weird? They had Hall of

1394
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 4: Famers then right? Crazy? Anyway, it continues. I missed last season.

1395
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: This is insane, this email. I missed last season of

1396
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 4: No Dunks. So I just caught up and listened to

1397
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: every episode of No Dunks in reverse order. Highly recommend it,

1398
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 4: highly recommended. What is something that you like to do?

1399
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 4: Out of order? Thunder up hard and trade, Katie Leaves,

1400
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 4: Russ State loyal. That's from Matt seely two just insane

1401
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: parts of that one missing an entire well three parts

1402
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: one missing the entire season and No Dunks. What the

1403
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 4: hell's wrong with you?

1404
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: Matt?

1405
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 4: Two deciding to listen back to the whole thing. I

1406
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: at real sicko. And then three doing in reverse order.

1407
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 4: But good on you, Matt. Thanks for the downloads. Uh

1408
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 4: this question though, is something you like to do out

1409
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 4: of order? I'll go first, just really quickly. I struggled

1410
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 4: with this. I think I do, especially like a in

1411
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 4: a doctor's office or somewhere. I do the old read

1412
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 4: a magazine backwards, Like I pick up a magazine and

1413
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: I flip backwards. I start at the end, and I

1414
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 4: sort of just make my way like am I really

1415
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 4: reading it front? You know, back to front? No, but

1416
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 4: you know, like just like what's going to catch my

1417
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: eye and what am I going to start by? So

1418
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 4: I do that. I don't know if anybody else slid.

1419
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 3: You uh weird well backwards.

1420
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 7: I haven't seen magazines in you know, gental offices and

1421
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 7: stuff for a while. They were taken away, taken away,

1422
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 7: so this is a while ago A good point, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1423
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 7: but not for me, not for me. But what I

1424
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 7: do do I'm not sure if this is even in

1425
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 7: the reverse order or for some people might be the

1426
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 7: normal order. But when I wash my car, I wash

1427
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 7: inside out. So I do all the vacuuming, you know,

1428
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 7: wiping down all the all the stuff inside the interior,

1429
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 7: and then I do the outside because it used to

1430
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 7: get where too you know, then you're trying to get

1431
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 7: the vacuum cleaner out and it's all wet and bubbly everywhere.

1432
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 7: So I switched it up and I went inside out.

1433
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 7: So that's why I do it.

1434
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like most people do it that way.

1435
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's what I wondered, I thought, because I

1436
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 7: used to be outside in first, so I switched it up.

1437
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: Anyway, it makes it sound like you're vacuuming the outside

1438
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: of your car and then washing the inside. All right,

1439
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 4: asked again, did you have difficult answering?

1440
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:15,480
Speaker 3: This one is something I definitely did. I asked Danielle

1441
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: and everything. She said, you do everything backwards, and she

1442
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: really she was just digging at me. She was, you know,

1443
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 3: putting in a complaint. She was putting in her complaint.

1444
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: She was putting it on record that she doesn't like

1445
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: the way I exit the house. She wants to go, go, go,

1446
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: and I do stuff before I leave. I want to

1447
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 3: feel these dumb accomplishments, like oh yeah, let me put

1448
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 3: that shoe back, let me put that sock into the wash,

1449
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 3: let me give it a quick little scrubs so the

1450
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: stain comes out.

1451
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 6: Let's go.

1452
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: So anyways, she said, that is backwards. I guess what

1453
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,919
Speaker 3: I do back going into the launch room. I probably

1454
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: take out the lint from the dryer before I put

1455
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:01,919
Speaker 3: in the clothes.

1456
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: That's smart, you should do.

1457
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: That's set, got it. But I do it at all

1458
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: times like I'm just a limp man. I just want

1459
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 3: that limp. I don't do anything backwards. I don't know.

1460
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 6: It's hard to think about it. I was like, I

1461
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know what I do backwards. I

1462
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 6: asked Laura as well, and you know, she just wanted

1463
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 6: to dunk on me. She's like, you just grab an

1464
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 6: Ikea thing and start trying to figure it out rather

1465
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 6: than following directions, and that's why we always end up

1466
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 6: with extra screws. But am I doing it out of order?

1467
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 4: Am I just being creative?

1468
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 6: I don't know, but it's tough. I don't know. The

1469
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 6: weirdest thing to me is when you get dressed backwards,

1470
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 6: like when you get dressed from the top down, when

1471
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 6: you put on your shirt first before going to your pants.

1472
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 6: Don't like that at all, So I don't do that

1473
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 6: one backwards. It's much cooler to be standing in your

1474
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 6: closet pants on, shirt off, looking for the top piece

1475
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 6: than shirt on, pants off, looking for the bottoms do.

1476
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: You put you Do you put your socks on before

1477
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: your pants?

1478
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 6: No? No, I would say socks when.

1479
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 4: I do, though, I put my socks on before my

1480
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: pants when I'm wearing like a suit, because it's like

1481
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 4: tighter like the plants, like just tight in there. Yeah's answer.

1482
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 4: I just realized Matt Austin's answer to this would be

1483
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 4: when we were the starters, especially, we would come up

1484
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 4: with the name of a segment. Coming up with the segment, Uh,

1485
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 4: just a funny name, and then what what is that? Okay,

1486
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 4: let's figure that part out. JD. Do you have anything,

1487
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 4: I'll come to you. I know you've got a construction

1488
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: zone over there.

1489
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, I have a big one. Actually I bought

1490
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 5: this house and then I went to go see it after.

1491
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 5: So that's that's something that's very very big and backwards

1492
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 5: and it's worked out for the most part.

1493
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 4: For the most. Oh, are you recommending that?

1494
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 5: I absolutely do not recommend it, but uh, you know,

1495
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 5: some of the construction happening is as a result of

1496
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 5: that decision. But hey, it's a it's a hot market

1497
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 5: here in Atlanta. If you if you get a whiff

1498
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 5: of something, you got to jump on it. You just

1499
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 5: gotta you gotta get if it's a good deal, and

1500
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 5: just go for it and then deal with the consequence

1501
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 5: of that. So that's how I roll with most things.

1502
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: Actually, So I'm glad.

1503
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm glad it's working out so far, so good. Okay, good,

1504
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 4: all right, We'll take one more break when we come back.

1505
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 4: JD's got tweeted the night. We got picking results, so

1506
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: don't go anywhere. Okay, let's start wrapping this bad boy up, JD.

1507
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 4: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1508
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night. Wow.

1509
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, there's been a lot of wild Pig content

1510
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 5: in the last last few weeks. Here and skeets, you

1511
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 5: sent me this tweet yesterday and I was dying and

1512
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 5: it's from It's from the line of best Fit, which

1513
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 5: is a music a new music discovery website in the UK.

1514
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 5: But they tweeted about Columbia's Finest Shakira, And here's the tweet.

1515
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 5: Shakira says people were quote just watching and not quote

1516
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 5: doing anything when her bag was stolen by wild boars

1517
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 5: in Barcelona. First of all, why is she on a

1518
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 5: surfboard in the picture. That's a weird part of it.

1519
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 5: So digging a little deeper, She's in a park with

1520
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 5: her son in Barcelona and wild bores came out stole

1521
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 5: her purse.

1522
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: Nobody did anything.

1523
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 4: What am I supposed to do?

1524
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly? You know, she ended up getting the purse back.

1525
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 5: All of this was captured after the fact. She was

1526
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 5: she there was an Instagram story that I couldn't find,

1527
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 5: and I didn't care to really dig for it. But

1528
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 5: I think she was like showing the damage of her purse.

1529
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 5: And apparently there was a sandwich in.

1530
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: The purse.

1531
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 5: And they took the sandwich and they left everything else,

1532
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 5: so the valuables, they got the valuables. But I don't

1533
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 5: know that I would I would take on a wild boar.

1534
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 5: It is Shakira though, but even yeah, well, just a

1535
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 5: chance to meet her, like, here's here's your purse.

1536
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1537
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: Enrique Iglesias is from Barcelona. He could be her hero. Baby.

1538
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 7: She's a great skateboarder. You've got the lungboard, dare you too?

1539
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 4: Can? Uh?

1540
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 7: But you got something common.

1541
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 5: I saw I saw that video of herd skateboarding. I'm like,

1542
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 5: oh my god, girls over here, the girl anyway, so

1543
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: one of the responses I just loved in the thread

1544
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 5: was this damny from Miriam Deckert. It reminded me when

1545
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 5: a wild boar stole a laptop in Germany from a

1546
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 5: naked guy. And it's a picture of a naked guy

1547
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 5: chasing a wild war and it looks like the worst babies,

1548
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: like little piglets.

1549
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: Are also running little.

1550
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 5: I mean, for the listeners out there, you got to

1551
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: get onto uh to YouTube to check this picture out

1552
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 5: because it is absolute gold. So and then it's weird

1553
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 5: because earlier, you know, I'm always on the hunt for

1554
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 5: a cold open. And earlier in October, one of my

1555
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: favorite Instagram followers follows Vinnie Thomas. He posted this picture. Now,

1556
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 5: this is a this is a warthog, which is in

1557
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 5: the same family. It is a wild still a wild pig.

1558
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: And this video I was dead after I watched it.

1559
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: And so here is another encounter with a wild pig.

1560
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 10: Here it is take this hot water. He's gonna come

1561
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 10: up the steps. Here he comes, Oh my goodness, and

1562
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 10: he's huge. Hello boy, I wonder if we can pet him?

1563
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: Hi boy, no domes help me.

1564
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: Built up?

1565
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 5: Like, oh god, I loved it, and so I so

1566
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: I wanted to fit this in as a code open,

1567
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 5: but it's too much of a setup. So this is perfect.

1568
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 5: So Vinnie, he often will do this. It's a bit

1569
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 5: that I love. He posts a video like that and

1570
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 5: then he will hop on and do a little monologue,

1571
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 5: a little sketch playing the animal or whatever object we

1572
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 5: just saw. And he's been in a cold open of

1573
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 5: ours before, but this was cuba hard to set up,

1574
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 5: so I'm so happy that we're able to put it

1575
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 5: in the show. So here's Vinnie Thomas as the war Hog.

1576
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, great, Hi everyone, this is a warthog.

1577
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 8: I'm coming to you live from the phone of a

1578
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 8: man I just robbed. So anyway, I hope he's seeing this.

1579
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 10: Sir.

1580
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 8: If you see this, I want to let you know

1581
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 8: that I have your phone and your wallet. You dropped

1582
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 8: them when you jumped up on that table. So whenever

1583
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 8: you're ready to come down, you know where to find me.

1584
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 8: I'll be in the sparse woodlands to the south. And

1585
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 8: before you show up, you might want to ask your

1586
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 8: daddy for some shin guards and leather gloves because I'm

1587
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 8: gonna take your.

1588
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 6: Legs and hands next.

1589
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 8: I'm gonna hokkoon, I'm gonna tear you to pieces have

1590
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 8: a blessed day.

1591
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that guy he's done. Uh he's done

1592
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 7: the pigeon at Mardi Gras well, Yeah, pigeon press, yeah, pride. Sorry,

1593
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 7: and then he did the Earth trying to get into

1594
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 7: the galactic Uh, you've.

1595
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 4: Got the greatest hits CD of.

1596
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: His Yeah, yeah.

1597
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 4: Okay, glad you worked it in Jena so perfectly. I

1598
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 4: mean seeing that video of the actual warthog. Yeah, now

1599
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 4: just now for sure I'm doing nothing. Oh I'm stealing. Yeah, hi, Shakira,

1600
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 4: and you're a child. Good luck with all of that.

1601
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 6: And I'll say, from looking at this picture, it looks

1602
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 6: like nobody's stepping in it all to help this guy either. Shocker.

1603
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 6: I can't believe nobody's jumping in to grab his laptop

1604
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 6: and hand it to him. Uh, which would you be

1605
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 6: more likely to help? JD If a wild boar stole

1606
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 6: a purse from Shakira for a wild boar stole a

1607
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 6: laptop from a random naked guy in Germany.

1608
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 5: Oh, it's got to be the naked guy in Germany.

1609
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 5: I mean, that guy's having a bad day.

1610
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: We finally have a use for that photo we have

1611
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: in Matt Austin sitting on the bed because he had

1612
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: his laptop stolen. Let's photo shop him into the naked

1613
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: guy spot.

1614
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 4: And put like a pomba in the background to something

1615
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 4: like that. Bring it all together all right? Great, tweeted

1616
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 4: I happy you out with that JD the weird Shakira

1617
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: story for sure. Pick them results from last night we

1618
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: had the heat Mavericks game. Miami was favored by one

1619
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: and a half on the road and they won. Pick

1620
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 4: them brought you by bet MGM. So two oh for me,

1621
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 4: two oh for Test, two oh for Lee Trey. He's

1622
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: behind the eight ball here. He's going to start. But

1623
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 4: we got a lot of November left. What's tonight's game task?

1624
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 4: There's eleven on.

1625
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: There are eleven games on, and obviously some tight lines

1626
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: because this is the NBA in the Minnesota Timberwolves, and

1627
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: people are hyping up as a Western Conference hopeful or

1628
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: hosting the Los Angeles Clippers, who have not started all

1629
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 3: that well at two and four. The Wolves are three

1630
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: and three, so this should be a good battle, and

1631
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 3: the Wolves are favored by one and a half half

1632
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,440
Speaker 3: at home, and considering those two teams and their expectations.

1633
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: It's not surprising that we're Splitsville on this one. Myself

1634
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: and Skeets are taking Minnesota, and Trey and Lee looking

1635
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: at the Clippers as they Yes, it started off started cold. Yeah,

1636
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: this is a corn flip. Who the heck knows what's

1637
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: gonna happen in this game, But it's fun to watch

1638
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves, who won't have D'Angel Russell tonight. Maybe no

1639
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverly and a revenge game against his old Los

1640
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers either, but the Clippers, obviously no Kawhi, should

1641
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: be a fun one.

1642
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some fun games on tonight. Bull Sixers obviously

1643
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 4: is an interesting one. Raptors, Wizards, Hawks, Nets, That one's

1644
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: on ESPN, Hornets Warriors is the Nightcap on ESPN. There

1645
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 4: got Nuggets Grizzlies as well, So lots to talk about

1646
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 4: on tomorrow show. And we got Survivor on tonight No

1647
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: Buffs podcast Thursday afternoon over on our No Buffs YouTube

1648
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: channel and podcast feed. Yeah, I forgot about that a tray.

1649
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 6: Hey yeah, good thing the World Series is over. Yeah,

1650
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 6: so now we can start watching my second favorite sport,

1651
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 6: Survivor even more Seriously, I'm seeing a lot of suggestions

1652
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 6: here in the stream. Team skeets, Yeah, how about petting

1653
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 6: the boar for one of these?

1654
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, no, I mean would have to acquire.

1655
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 4: I mean I've seen my buddy Jared. I know other

1656
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 4: people have done this. Like if you go to like

1657
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 4: a rodeo like in Montana, the last people, especially when

1658
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 4: they got a couple of beers of them, say hey,

1659
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 4: I want to come down. You win two hundred dollars

1660
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: and all you gotta do is like stand in a

1661
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 4: circle and we let the uh and we let the

1662
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: bulls out. Last person standing in that circle wins all

1663
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: the money or stuff like that.

1664
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 6: I would do that, but with bores, ye with yeah, yeah, yeah,

1665
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 6: as long as you got shin guards. You need shin

1666
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 6: guards with those boors.

1667
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's try to be elusive in that little circle.

1668
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy, though. My buddy Jared did it once

1669
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 4: and he just got hammered. He had a couple of

1670
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: pops in him and then he got hammered by it.

1671
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: Actually crazy.

1672
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta get go in here, so subscribe to

1673
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,720
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1674
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1675
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,599
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1676
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 4: around the corner, guys. I know we haven't even hit

1677
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving here in the States yet, but Christmas is fast approaching.

1678
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1679
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Speaker 4: some great No Dunks gear for yourself or for others.

1680
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1681
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Speaker 4: stocking stuffer. If you get a mug or some shorts,

1682
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: task or maybe a T shirt like that's like, that's

1683
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: a real gift. You should be wrapping those. Actually, don't

1684
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 4: put those in the stocking stuffer. That's too good.

1685
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: Roll up a nice No Dunks T shirt and put

1686
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: it right in the bottom of a stocking. It's a

1687
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 3: nice fine and it's a nice soft base to drop

1688
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 3: stuff in it as well.

1689
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 4: Good point, good point.

1690
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, No Dunks dot stockings fall.

1691
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 4: You know, No Clipper bros.

1692
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: You heard it first.

1693
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 6: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

1694
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I remember no quote just curious Skeetz.

1695
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: You said you gotta go where you gotta go. Man,

1696
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: you don't want to have a two hour show here

1697
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday and hour we have.

1698
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,480
Speaker 4: To go and do one of my many pick them payoffs.

1699
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 6: Ho.

1700
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm recording that later today, which I mean in like

1701
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 4: forty five minutes, So that's where I gotta go.

1702
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: Yes, can't wait. It won't be a bore. I'll tell

1703
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 3: you that, it's good.

1704
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 4: Embrace the day. People, you could.

1705
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:37,919
Speaker 1: Stay every day? Can I be happy?

1706
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 3: Every minute? It's done? So long with yourna.

1707
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: It happened already.

1708
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: It's gonna be goody