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Speaker 1: as special When I tell you some of the best
Speaker 1: years of my life is when this man was on
Speaker 1: the field playing and leading the leader of men, El Capitan.
Speaker 1: I watched his documentary three times. The first two times
Speaker 1: I watched it, I hit a friend of mine and
Speaker 1: she said she cried, So I said, damn, I need
Speaker 1: to see where she had to cry, and I realized
Speaker 1: he wasn't from New York. So a lot of people
Speaker 1: who wasn't from New York and played against US State
Speaker 1: didn't cry. The man let us he is. He is
Speaker 1: a class act AH, five time champion. His accolations keep
Speaker 1: going and going and going. So we right now on
Speaker 1: the legendary car bones. By the way, people can't even
Speaker 1: get a reservation and we're help filming is crazy. Let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for the one when I was watched
Speaker 1: the documentary, I'll tell you what was the craziest part
Speaker 1: of the documentary to me. For me was when you
Speaker 1: got drafted right and then your first couple of years
Speaker 1: in the mining least, what was that? What are those Yeah,
Speaker 1: you weren't doing good, terrible right, So what made them
Speaker 1: keep you? They didn't have a choice. They gave me
Speaker 1: a big signing bonus. You get drafted high with a
Speaker 1: signing bus, they're gonna give you an opportunity to make
Speaker 1: some mistakes. First of all, before we start, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me, because I keep running into around town and
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for six years to get invited on this. Finally,
Speaker 1: now after after months and months and begging finally allowed them.
Speaker 1: But back to that, yeah, back to yeah easy, because
Speaker 1: I had didn't hear these years. I had only heard
Speaker 1: of these years um when I watched the documentary. But
Speaker 1: when they was reflecting on it, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is so amazing the story because how it was the
Speaker 1: number one in high school and then you went there
Speaker 1: and then it was like the first couple of years
Speaker 1: it wasn't we're working out for you? I think, Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, I think one thing you have to
Speaker 1: realize is anyone that's had success in any profession has
Speaker 1: failed everyone. You don't hear about it, like you two
Speaker 1: have failed. You just show up and now you got
Speaker 1: drink chances. You got bumps along the way, bumps in
Speaker 1: the road. Part of the how do you stop it
Speaker 1: from being a roadblock, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I'm coming from Calamusoo, Michigan. No disrespect to Calumus. It
Speaker 1: was just a small town, you know, not known. I
Speaker 1: guess for professional baseball players. Now you go from playing
Speaker 1: in Kalamazudi, now you're playing against the best players in
Speaker 1: the world. And I was completely overmatched, completely overmatched. And
Speaker 1: but I mean that's when you you gotta bounce back. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta learn from your failures and and you got
Speaker 1: to try to look at the bright side and and um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks for starting this off by have me
Speaker 1: go down memory lane when I was bad. I appreciate
Speaker 1: that stories. It's the fruition that that your parents even had,
Speaker 1: Like I've seen your baby pictures of you with a
Speaker 1: Yankee you more like it was almost spooky to see
Speaker 1: that because it was like, this guy is exactly who
Speaker 1: he's made to be looking back. Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: one one thing is is I give my parents a
Speaker 1: lot of credit because you need the people closest to
Speaker 1: you reinforcing your dreams, right, Because anytime you have a
Speaker 1: far fetched dream in other people's minds, everyone's telling you
Speaker 1: you're never going to achieve. It's just what you're gonna hear.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't achieve. It's like in a documentary.
Speaker 1: Who then are you to tell me that I can't
Speaker 1: achieve my dream? You know, and my parents, who are
Speaker 1: obviously closest to me, I said I could do it
Speaker 1: as well. So you need to support and they supported
Speaker 1: me from day one. The only thing ever wanted to
Speaker 1: be and always short, stop, always short. My dad was
Speaker 1: you know I played shortstop. I was trying to be
Speaker 1: you and I didn't heard about you. About birthday too,
Speaker 1: I couldn't Thanks for the invites to the party. I
Speaker 1: mean I got three girls five and under. Yes, so
Speaker 1: if you have a birthday lunch, I'll get to the birthday.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so be bouncing around a little bit.
Speaker 1: But um, best year in my life. I'm platinum Yankees
Speaker 1: World Series? Can you describe that year? It was my hat?
Speaker 1: What's my hat? Man? You know, you have a good
Speaker 1: year in baseball. First of all, it's a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty two games. You have a good year, you win
Speaker 1: a hundred games, and people say, what did you go
Speaker 1: that year? We were a hundred and fifty Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: counting the postseason where SEVENTI five games over five hundred.
Speaker 1: So um, I mean, it's just one of those years
Speaker 1: where I looky. It's it's tough to compare rors, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's in music or whether it's in sports. But
Speaker 1: I would put that team up there against any team
Speaker 1: in the history of that They said the game when
Speaker 1: we googled, they named that the best Yankee team ever. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that great, Okay, Like I said around
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I'm bringing my brother in a
Speaker 1: little while. But all of my friends I went bord
Speaker 1: to Derek g New Jersey. They're laughing at me already.
Speaker 1: I went and what I For some reason, maybe I've
Speaker 1: been in Florida too long. I didn't know that if
Speaker 1: I had your name on the back of it, it's
Speaker 1: not official. They would literally not let me come in
Speaker 1: here with this jersey because let's hear from you. So
Speaker 1: if to be official, you can't have your name, one name, no.
Speaker 1: Yankee is one of the few teams that don't have
Speaker 1: their names New Jersey. You know. It's actually I give
Speaker 1: you a little history. Yankees is the first team to
Speaker 1: have numbers on their uniforms, and it used to go
Speaker 1: by the order in the lineup, which is why Ruth
Speaker 1: was three, Garrett was four. So we're the first team
Speaker 1: to have numbers on the units. And the reason why
Speaker 1: you don't have it's all about the team. It's not
Speaker 1: about you know, It's all about the team ultimately. That's
Speaker 1: what matters. I mean, it's it's winning in anything in life,
Speaker 1: it's winning. I mean, I have problems. He's probably saw
Speaker 1: the documentary. I mean to have competition problems. You can
Speaker 1: say you want to race down the street, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to beat you racing down the street. And if
Speaker 1: I don't beat you, we're gonna go do it again.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's just so ultimately that's
Speaker 1: what you play for us to win. Personal accolades are great,
Speaker 1: they come along with it, but you know, you're don't
Speaker 1: have a team success. Yeah, that that's crazy because they
Speaker 1: were my friends. Was exactly right. They and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, why did that didn't know that? Like,
Speaker 1: and they all like, you're a bozo. You shouldn't know that.
Speaker 1: And and I literally they would not let me let
Speaker 1: you sign that. I said, I want to. Uh wow,
Speaker 1: that's so. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. I got
Speaker 1: a good team. I'm glad. Thank you diego um dude
Speaker 1: said young. Really they had they had an intervention with me,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I was on drops. It's necessary.
Speaker 1: Interventions are necessary? Is there anything like the Yankees fans?
Speaker 1: Because what did the Yankees? What did they just win?
Speaker 1: Just now? Yeah? Is is that the best fans in
Speaker 1: the world by far? It's not even close. You know.
Speaker 1: The thing with the Yankee fans. Are they pay attention
Speaker 1: every single day? You mentioned we had a rough patch
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. First of all, we
Speaker 1: want a division in April it was over. We just
Speaker 1: like five months that, you know, we already won and
Speaker 1: we had a rough patch at the end, and you're
Speaker 1: walking down the streets and you know, fans yelling you
Speaker 1: better turn it around. You guys are gonna blow it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, we have games right now, but they
Speaker 1: watch every single day. They expect excellence. Uh, they do
Speaker 1: not take excuses, right. I mean, you gotta stand in
Speaker 1: front of your locker and you have to answer questions
Speaker 1: where things don't go well. And you know, it's like
Speaker 1: I always just tell my teammates if you want to
Speaker 1: escape the locker room, do it. When you have a
Speaker 1: good game, you know, you find a lot. I find
Speaker 1: out a lot about people when how they handle adversity.
Speaker 1: New Yorkers want to see First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you necessarily say they want to see you fail,
Speaker 1: but they do. They want to see how you're gonna
Speaker 1: bounce back to Yes, yes, yes, so Yankee fans are
Speaker 1: the best. Man. Do we still hate Boston fans, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a hatred. Um, I gotta be careful, man,
Speaker 1: I still walk around. You know, it's he's outside. I've
Speaker 1: said it before. After they won in two thousand four,
Speaker 1: they softened a little bit. My parents didn't even go
Speaker 1: back to Fenway Park because they were brutal. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure Red Sox players will tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1: New York fans are brutal. But they softened a little bit.
Speaker 1: And um so now I have no issues with Boston fans.
Speaker 1: Plus we won more than they did. So would you
Speaker 1: like some opus one? One? No, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: handle that. You just want to make sure you don't
Speaker 1: do that one that's daily on. Thanks, look'd be nervous. Okay, Thanks?
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Speaker 1: and raised New Yorker and I live in Miami now
Speaker 1: for the past fifteen years or so. You're you're you're
Speaker 1: in New Yorker. That's like, um that now living lives
Speaker 1: in Miami. Well, how was the mall Is experience? How
Speaker 1: how was that because you are an owner? You went
Speaker 1: from being a player to owner. I think he was
Speaker 1: like the only one like in baseball history. And then
Speaker 1: and they also saying a black owner. Was it pressure?
Speaker 1: How was it? Because Miami fans are a little different. Well,
Speaker 1: I keep example, I first came to a Heat game
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, y'all, no, no, I'm sorry. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this before in my life. And Lebron wasn't. They like,
Speaker 1: Lebron didn't win. The whole stadium went out, like half
Speaker 1: of the stadium left. I was like, New York fairs
Speaker 1: will never do that. The Nicks could be getting pounded
Speaker 1: and we'll still be there with our popcorn. So Miami
Speaker 1: fans are different. How was that experience? Well, let me
Speaker 1: start with you know, I've lived in I lived in
Speaker 1: Tampa on the other side of Florida twenty some years.
Speaker 1: We had our player development and spring training facility there,
Speaker 1: so I always lived in Tampa so I could work
Speaker 1: out the entire offseason. And I love Florida, live here
Speaker 1: for a long time. And you know, major league teams,
Speaker 1: I should say, sports franchises don't trade that office. It's
Speaker 1: not like you can just wake up one day and say, hey,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I want to get together by a team.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to to acquire a team that was
Speaker 1: close to home. Um and it just so happened that
Speaker 1: Miami came up, and so I put together an ownership
Speaker 1: group and and we purchased the team. And one thing
Speaker 1: about about Miami fans, when you're comparing Miami and New York, right,
Speaker 1: New York is generational fans. You know, you are born
Speaker 1: a Yankee fans. Your grand your your parents were your grandparents,
Speaker 1: your great grandparents. You basically have no choice, and you
Speaker 1: have no And then you know you come to Miami,
Speaker 1: especially you know the baseball team, it's a new franchise
Speaker 1: with a checkered pass. They have the history of they've
Speaker 1: won a couple of times. They get rid of everyone,
Speaker 1: and we came in, we made changes. I look at
Speaker 1: it as a challenge. You know, everything in life is challenging.
Speaker 1: Anything that means something to you a challenging. So never
Speaker 1: shied away from it. And and and we we I
Speaker 1: think as a sports fan, and it's understandable. You look
Speaker 1: at wins and losses. That's how you judge an organization.
Speaker 1: I get it. But there's a lot more that goes
Speaker 1: along with it. And you have to build a great
Speaker 1: front office. You have to build a great minor league system. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it takes time, It takes patience, I don't have any patience, right,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to kids now, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: work on my patients. But it takes some patience. And
Speaker 1: and we accomplished quite a bit, I think in my
Speaker 1: time with the organization and and um, you know, whether
Speaker 1: it went to the postseason for the first time in
Speaker 1: seventeen years. I mean, look, no matter how you look
Speaker 1: at ultimately your goals to win a championship, but there's
Speaker 1: steps along the way, you know, because you know, during
Speaker 1: my career, I was known for seeing if you didn't
Speaker 1: win a World Series, seasons of failure, it is a failure.
Speaker 1: Plus I won my first year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So there's nowhere you know, I'm not I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it for I'm just saying, you know, that's that's the
Speaker 1: goal we set, right, That's that's the president we said
Speaker 1: we won. So next year what gett into the World
Speaker 1: Series doesn't mean anything. So I'm down here in Miami.
Speaker 1: There's steps along the way. So we made we took
Speaker 1: some steps in the right direction. I'm proud of the
Speaker 1: front office that we built, Um, the diverse front office
Speaker 1: that we built. And unfortunately, like I said, when I left.
Speaker 1: You know, the direction of the team changed, and um,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be me if I was still there because
Speaker 1: they blamed you with what God blame me for everything,
Speaker 1: which is fine, which is fine talking about. But what's
Speaker 1: the guy that they traded to New York because they
Speaker 1: blamed you for that? You you remember? Yeah, But I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this is the way I look at it, right, Um,
Speaker 1: they look Miami hats great players, we took over, but
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they didn't win for whatever reason, So
Speaker 1: there needs to be changed, right, I mean I worked
Speaker 1: for George Steinbrenner. You didn't do your job, you were gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just black and white. When are you
Speaker 1: you make changes? So yeah, we made changes. I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unpopular decisions that that were made.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm fine. What do you think it's
Speaker 1: hard of being a player or being an owner? Uh? Man?
Speaker 1: You know what, when you play, you have a chance
Speaker 1: to affect the outcome of a game. Wow, when you're
Speaker 1: up there watching, you can't control it. I mean you can't.
Speaker 1: You know, you see things from up in a suite,
Speaker 1: you see it as if you were playing. But it's
Speaker 1: not like you can go down there and say something.
Speaker 1: You know, so it's it's it's a challenging I's going
Speaker 1: to accent. Have you ever, like as the owner was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me go suit up. No no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, let's get one
Speaker 1: let's get one thing straight. I'm done. I would not.
Speaker 1: I would embarrass myself. I understand how difficult it is
Speaker 1: to play the game. I understand people are going to fail,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it earlier. I actually like to
Speaker 1: see when players fail because I watched what you do
Speaker 1: when you're walking off the field. I watch what you
Speaker 1: do when you're in the clubhouse. I watched what you
Speaker 1: do in postgame interviews. I see it tells me a
Speaker 1: lot more about an individual when they struggle, like like
Speaker 1: like like you know, um, in sportsmanship, they shake hands
Speaker 1: after win all loss. So if a person doesn't take
Speaker 1: a hand, you feel like a good sportsmanship. Have you ever?
Speaker 1: I wasn't shaking hands with people and we lost. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, I didn't do that. There's
Speaker 1: funny story. When I was younger, I was playing little
Speaker 1: league and my dad coached me for just a couple
Speaker 1: of years. I was trying to beg him for years
Speaker 1: and coach me. And one time we lost the game
Speaker 1: and I refused to shake literally he shake hands. I
Speaker 1: refused to shake hands with the other team. So you know,
Speaker 1: he pulled me aside and say, man, you need to
Speaker 1: start playing an end of visuals for it, said because
Speaker 1: you know it taught me a lesson, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want to say you lose gracefully because you
Speaker 1: never accepted. But I think it's it's you understand that
Speaker 1: you know you can't walk around with your head up
Speaker 1: high when things are going good and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you disappear when things don't go your way.
Speaker 1: So I didn't, Man, I wasn't shaking hands after we lost,
Speaker 1: But um I did it. I lost respectfully. Yeah, I understand,
Speaker 1: I understand. Understand. Holy, I got notes and all type
Speaker 1: of things. I'm getting into it. Let's go Holy. But
Speaker 1: how many years were you at the Marlan uh four
Speaker 1: and a half, four and a half, four and a half,
Speaker 1: And did you do you think that you were able
Speaker 1: to accomplish some of the things you were trying to
Speaker 1: create that process to get the team where they needed
Speaker 1: to be. And it all starts with people. You gotta
Speaker 1: have the right people in place, and it's it's um
Speaker 1: you know, I said it in the documentary. Remember when
Speaker 1: Um Theopstein had a lot of success in Boston, then
Speaker 1: he went to Chicago. And when he got to Chicago
Speaker 1: and he told the fan base, he's gonna take us
Speaker 1: five years. Right. I never put a time frame on
Speaker 1: it because I think if you tell someone it's gonna
Speaker 1: take us a few years, you're making it okay for
Speaker 1: them to fail. I expect you when you compete, you're
Speaker 1: expected to win, right. Um. So I think we we
Speaker 1: made a lot of progress. Um not enough. Um So
Speaker 1: I I I'm more happy, and I'm more proud of
Speaker 1: the people that we put in place. I mean, and
Speaker 1: and up until when I left, right, and you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be with Diddy and j Lo the night
Speaker 1: of the n Y Club shooting, I wouldn't well, I wouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say supposed to be, Um, you know
Speaker 1: my boy and Mike. Yeah, So we were out right
Speaker 1: after um, right after a game. We're eating and then um,
Speaker 1: you know, Puff had mentioned to Mike, why don't you
Speaker 1: guys I'm buying And I was like, they say it
Speaker 1: all the time, Ma I'm gona stay out of trouble tonight,
Speaker 1: say it all the time. So it was just that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was avoided a conflict. It was crazy case. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and me and Puff. Uh last time I
Speaker 1: seen you was here, correct, And I think me and
Speaker 1: Puff is there and running him down. The documentary and
Speaker 1: there's such so much of events. It's like you are,
Speaker 1: like I keep forgetting you're not from New York City,
Speaker 1: like born and raised, because my whole life in New
Speaker 1: York City, I've known to beat this. Yeah, I've said
Speaker 1: this before. You know what's what it's. I think it's
Speaker 1: called The Truman Show. Jim Carrey blew up on television.
Speaker 1: That was me because I came to New York I
Speaker 1: was twenty years old. We talked about it before. Yankee
Speaker 1: fans watch every single game, so they watched me grow up,
Speaker 1: and I watched Yankee fans grow up too, you know.
Speaker 1: So we grew up together. And the great thing about
Speaker 1: baseball's every single day. I'll tell you. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: something that's that was weird for me as a as
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan was I didn't think that the Yankees
Speaker 1: should have ever took a Rod. I felt like that
Speaker 1: was both the opposition. You were solidified. I didn't know
Speaker 1: why they ever like brung him on. But one thing
Speaker 1: with New York Man and Yankees, and especially Mr Steinbrenner,
Speaker 1: you can play. He wants you. He wants to win. Man.
Speaker 1: I told the story before you know. Mr Steinbrenner, the
Speaker 1: late George Steinbrenners a big football guy with a great
Speaker 1: relationship because he was an Ohio State guy. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Michigan, so we used to butt heads all
Speaker 1: the time on Michigan Ohio State football. And I say
Speaker 1: he's an old football guy because he had a real
Speaker 1: He had a real tough time realized that the one
Speaker 1: who didn't want to pay you when you were we
Speaker 1: get to that. So so in a hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: two games, he had a tough time understanding that you
Speaker 1: may actually lose a game. Now, I I'm of the
Speaker 1: mindset every time you take the field, you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to win a game. You should play and expect
Speaker 1: to win, right, But I also understood you can't win everything.
Speaker 1: He didn't understand that, you know, so Um, he expected
Speaker 1: everyone to be accountable. UM. And if there was a
Speaker 1: player that he felt as though would help us win,
Speaker 1: and he would go get him and you got to
Speaker 1: tip your cap to him because, um, in my mind
Speaker 1: he is one of the greatest owners in all sports.
Speaker 1: But a tough guy. Oh yeah, he was a tough guy.
Speaker 1: He used to challenge you, his best players, he would challenge,
Speaker 1: He would call you out publicly. He would. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: would try to embarrass you, just to see how you
Speaker 1: were going to respond. Because it takes a certain type
Speaker 1: of individual a deal with everything that comes with New York,
Speaker 1: and um, he would find out. All right, we gotta
Speaker 1: get his flowers. Man. That's why listen our show. It's
Speaker 1: about giving them people their flowers while they alive, tell
Speaker 1: them how great they is today face. We want you
Speaker 1: to know you are greatness. You've made us proud. We
Speaker 1: we we we We're gonna give you your flowers to
Speaker 1: your face than tell you how greatness is said, come on,
Speaker 1: Mr Leave, he's never on point with us. Yes, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, man. That's a little that's a little details
Speaker 1: in the third team flowers, and it's for a certain reason.
Speaker 1: Come on, Paul, Oh my goodness, I know you know
Speaker 1: when you went to the Yankees and you asked me
Speaker 1: him with thirteen because of your father. He played and
Speaker 1: he was number thirteen. We just wanted to respect the
Speaker 1: fact that we understood that detail. What's so important to you,
Speaker 1: So we made those flowers give their team since you
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He really did some research. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: did some research. I like it. I like it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So how did you want up getting the number two?
Speaker 1: Then just gave it to me? Man? I think it
Speaker 1: was the smallest jersey, I really do you know there
Speaker 1: was a guy by the name of Mike Diego that
Speaker 1: were number two before me. Mike Diego is probably what
Speaker 1: five six, five seven, and um, you know when I
Speaker 1: played basketball in high school, and you know in basketball,
Speaker 1: they always make you a little taller, a little heavier, right,
Speaker 1: So I was listed as six three one five when
Speaker 1: I was drafted, and the first thing they do in
Speaker 1: the Yankee sigmon is they measured me and put me
Speaker 1: on a scale. I was six to one dress dressed.
Speaker 1: So when I finally got to New York, man, I
Speaker 1: probably weighed one. So I just think number two was
Speaker 1: There's all these rumors of why they gave me number two.
Speaker 1: I just think it was the smallest jersey They had
Speaker 1: Man and something else that was very interesting. It was Google.
Speaker 1: Then this only Google is dangerous. But it's only like
Speaker 1: the history of like ten captains on the Yanking like
Speaker 1: if that like, so I always thought that they was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was elite when they called you
Speaker 1: the captain, did you know? Did you know that I did?
Speaker 1: It's not a title that's thrown around lightly in the
Speaker 1: Yankee organization. Um, I believe I was eleventh one. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some historical accounts that there were a couple more.
Speaker 1: If I think they said, don't quote me on it,
Speaker 1: so you can erase it if I'm wrong. But I
Speaker 1: think they said Babe Ruth was a captain for a day.
Speaker 1: I think I kind of got into something and got
Speaker 1: in trouble different times, different times back then. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a title is thrown around lightly. So I
Speaker 1: always I always took that responsibility and and you know
Speaker 1: I I tried to represent the organization in the best light.
Speaker 1: I could. You believe in the Curse of Babe Roof,
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did. I mean they obviously broke
Speaker 1: the curse. But yeah, there's some just some strange stuff
Speaker 1: that happened. Man, every time we played Boston. It's like
Speaker 1: Boston just couldn't figure out. You waited for him to
Speaker 1: screw it up. Yeah, he waited for him to screw
Speaker 1: it up. So it was one time he was winning,
Speaker 1: he was like, don't worry. Else You're like, You're like,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Yeah. But yeah, they they ended the curse
Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah. Look, Joyce starburn in My next,
Speaker 1: My next. So didn't he get fired at one point
Speaker 1: or didn't he let him go as an owner and
Speaker 1: no comment? Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know. You know,
Speaker 1: he had you know, he had some Yeah, there were
Speaker 1: some issues that he had My favorite player's Dame of Winfield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there was some issues he had with Dave. So
Speaker 1: he was suspended. He was suspending for some time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I actually a matter of fact, I think that's
Speaker 1: probably one of the reasons why the group of young
Speaker 1: players that I came up with were able to stay
Speaker 1: with the organization because the boss was known he's gonna
Speaker 1: go get free agents, right, he didn't get and patience
Speaker 1: for young players, and um, you know, Bernie Williams was
Speaker 1: the first one that really got an opportunity and had
Speaker 1: some success. So yeah, the boss was suspended for a while.
Speaker 1: Bernie Wins that was your best friend, right, Bernie came
Speaker 1: was a little a little before us. Yeah, okay. You
Speaker 1: said in the documentary that if there was phones back then,
Speaker 1: like I phones, Yeah, like I phones, any kind of
Speaker 1: recording any kind of recording device, because you know New
Speaker 1: York man, I mean, we used to go out um
Speaker 1: in New York and we'll be out four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. You leave a place and there's a line
Speaker 1: to get in. You didn't have to worry about anything
Speaker 1: because there was There was page six, but there were
Speaker 1: no photos. If it's just words, it's a rumor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't me. You know, you don't have a picture.
Speaker 1: It wasn't me. So it's now man, it's it's I
Speaker 1: feel bad for for you know, young athletes and entertainers
Speaker 1: that you know now everyone's a member of the media
Speaker 1: because they have a phone. No matter what you do,
Speaker 1: they have a phone. You find that annoying. Do people
Speaker 1: just put their phone on you when you you're out
Speaker 1: and about. Sometimes people have been respectful for the most part,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I what I tell people, especially
Speaker 1: young players, you have to assume everything you do is
Speaker 1: public knowledge. Unless you're in your own house, everything you
Speaker 1: to his public knowledge. And that's a rough way to
Speaker 1: live life, man, it really is. And it just keeps
Speaker 1: getting I don't want to say worse, but it's just
Speaker 1: everything you do, man, you just never know. Like the
Speaker 1: other day, I was walking to someone and I'm wanting
Speaker 1: to meet one of my friends and he has one
Speaker 1: of his people with me, and that person didn't even
Speaker 1: say hi to me, just automatically just pulled out the
Speaker 1: phone and just started filming. And I was like, in
Speaker 1: what world is this cool? Like it's like my friend
Speaker 1: saying nothing, nothing, nothing. The dude just start feelming me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't think I deserve see
Speaker 1: I'm coming to see my friend and he he looked
Speaker 1: at me like no, and I looked like this is
Speaker 1: my personal time. And it's like this error is like
Speaker 1: really like it's it's like every day yours out and
Speaker 1: film them, which is saying, pull your phone out and
Speaker 1: start filming them. Make someone comfortable, yeah it, get it out,
Speaker 1: you start taking them right, yeah, do it back to back.
Speaker 1: You think that I was just like a good guy,
Speaker 1: like and they're saying nothing wrong with it, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is is what's what's what I
Speaker 1: find to be disappointing. I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: a back in the day guy. Someone always says you're
Speaker 1: back in the day guy, because every time I go
Speaker 1: back in the day, but people don't have experiences anymore
Speaker 1: because they're so focused on capturing it and sharing it
Speaker 1: with other people. So you go to a concert, you
Speaker 1: go to a sporting event, and this is this is
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Well, enjoy the experience, you know, because
Speaker 1: those are things you can't get back, the feeling you have,
Speaker 1: and the experience is something that you could remember. Now.
Speaker 1: My last season I played, I kept a journal every day.
Speaker 1: I wrote down how I felt. Now I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have to be about a game, but just how I
Speaker 1: fell on that particular day. And I wish I would
Speaker 1: have done that my entire career because there's so many
Speaker 1: things you forget about, experiences you forget about. That's what
Speaker 1: the documentary was fun Fail because I'm listening to everyone
Speaker 1: else share their experiences. You know, but those are the
Speaker 1: things you have. You talked about New York back in
Speaker 1: the day, going out having fun, you know, you run
Speaker 1: into someone you can twenty years ago, but you remember
Speaker 1: how you felt when you were with him at the time.
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's that's something that that's something
Speaker 1: that I think is missing nowadays. You gotta enjoy experiences.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, It's crazy. Uhuh with this generation has
Speaker 1: led to like it's like no privacy at all. And
Speaker 1: I just thought, and it has to make you appreciate
Speaker 1: the era that you played in. It does Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I value privacy, you know, I'm I'm I
Speaker 1: think take it to another level, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why when we did the documentary, and initially I said, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, I'm just not gonna do it. I wanted
Speaker 1: to film the potential Hall of Fame call that I
Speaker 1: would get and then film the ceremony so I could
Speaker 1: share it with my my girls. I had three now,
Speaker 1: but I had two at the time. And then it
Speaker 1: turned into why don't we do a larger project around
Speaker 1: your entire career? And I was like, and I ain't
Speaker 1: doing it because I've said this before. Once you let
Speaker 1: the toothpaste out of the tube, you can't put it
Speaker 1: back in. Once you start sharing it, man, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's you can't get it back. And I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, man, it's it's it's my career, it's what happened. Um,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna do it at some point. I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it. So I'm happy that I did. So let's
Speaker 1: let's like I said, we're bouncing amround a little bit,
Speaker 1: but let's go. When a Road had made those comments
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the comments when he said, uh
Speaker 1: not Kendall, Oh yeah, he's from Kendall, is from Kendall.
Speaker 1: These guys from day be careful, they might be these
Speaker 1: boys over there. We don't know. We gotta don't worry
Speaker 1: about you. Good. But um, I believe he said that,
Speaker 1: Um that that that Derek's team won, like and that
Speaker 1: how did you feel when he when he when he
Speaker 1: said that correct, I mean, you know what we want. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, my my thing is sorry. But look, I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone made such a big deal and I understand it
Speaker 1: such a big deal out of our relationship because of
Speaker 1: things that were said in the media. This is twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, pretty much, you know. And um, that's why
Speaker 1: in the documentary, I wanted the people. I wanted people
Speaker 1: to know how I felt at the time. Now a
Speaker 1: lot of things in life have happened since then that
Speaker 1: it's over, it's beyond. I don't I don't feel that
Speaker 1: way anymore. But at the time how I felt was
Speaker 1: I'm extremely loyal. I wouldn't do it to a friend.
Speaker 1: And just there's just no yeah, there's just I just moving. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just I've said it's maybe it's a character flaw
Speaker 1: for me, but I just turn it off like that
Speaker 1: and I won't ever think about it again. It's just
Speaker 1: you move on. But I think as I've gotten older,
Speaker 1: things happen in life, life experiences. I have a family, now,
Speaker 1: you lose close friends. I lost a very close friend
Speaker 1: of mine, and I don't want to feel a certain
Speaker 1: way when I see someone. Man, So if if I
Speaker 1: have something to say, I'll say it and we move on. Right,
Speaker 1: You have acquaintances, you have friends, right, And I think, um,
Speaker 1: you only have so many real true friends. And I
Speaker 1: value relationships. I value my friends. I'm extremely loyal and
Speaker 1: I'll continue to be that way. And was was it was?
Speaker 1: It was it coming from like a sidebar, like were
Speaker 1: you shocked or were you liked? Because because you know,
Speaker 1: being famous is a fucking great and terrible thing, right,
Speaker 1: because like the person could be one way and then
Speaker 1: then they've didn't afforded the camera be a totally different way.
Speaker 1: Was did you feel like snakes? Did you feel like
Speaker 1: betrayed because of his comments? Yeah, there were some feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, of course you see and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: what is this? You know, first it's coming out of
Speaker 1: left field. You know, I'm like, where is this coming from?
Speaker 1: But once again, we were twenty something years old back
Speaker 1: THEMN man like, now it's I don't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a good relationship. Are walking here right now?
Speaker 1: What's going on? I just did his show in New
Speaker 1: York recently. You know, we've gotten together before the documentary
Speaker 1: came out. You know, I wanted to reach out and say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know he was a part of the document I
Speaker 1: wanted him to be a part. I wanted him to
Speaker 1: tell his side. You know, any friction I had with
Speaker 1: any particular person in my career, I wanted them to
Speaker 1: tell their side. I didn't want to do a puff piece,
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I didn't want everyone just saying great
Speaker 1: things about me and a puff piece that means he
Speaker 1: doesn't mean daddy, I mean if you had a problem
Speaker 1: with me, say it. I had some problems with people too.
Speaker 1: I have no problem saying it. But um yeah, I
Speaker 1: have no issues whatsoever. That that's you know, this is
Speaker 1: I'm so happy man. So like, if you're ready to
Speaker 1: do um yeah, yeah, grabbed a chair. I want to
Speaker 1: bring my brother do sing. Yeah. You asked me if
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Speaker 1: it's not an honor that we get the captain to
Speaker 1: sit down. And by the way, I'm just being honest
Speaker 1: with you. You are the most humblest legend like ever,
Speaker 1: like you always respectful, you always kind of say the
Speaker 1: right thing. Are you a maniac? Like yeah, well we
Speaker 1: gotta define maniac, you know, because I got a friend
Speaker 1: named s p K and everyone when we see him,
Speaker 1: and he's always the same, but it be like something
Speaker 1: about himself. We spread a room or yeah, we spread
Speaker 1: a room. He's a night killer. People like, let let's clarify.
Speaker 1: I'm not Jeffrey Domond. I'm not dumb now the Bronx.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring um I'm do saying
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people don't know Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: It's smack dead in the middle of the hood. This
Speaker 1: is my brother from one five seven in your card,
Speaker 1: and I remember going to see them at times and
Speaker 1: the hood will be old southern parking spots and then
Speaker 1: and me, I'm from Queens, so I actually lived. I
Speaker 1: lived about it ten minutes away from UM Well, and
Speaker 1: I would know the difference going like going to Shade Stadium.
Speaker 1: It's not in the hood. Uh, City Field is not
Speaker 1: in the hood. But there's no way you could get
Speaker 1: this Yankee Stadium without avoiding the hood. How was that
Speaker 1: when you just you even walk into the locker room.
Speaker 1: Got know, New York has embraced you. But how was
Speaker 1: that for your your teammates? Like getting that real New
Speaker 1: York and this is the bronze. Yeah, I mean well,
Speaker 1: first of all, it was intimidating for opposing players, you know,
Speaker 1: especially you're taking to the old stadium, the old stadium.
Speaker 1: Market players did not want to come to Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: Did not want to come and you know and part
Speaker 1: of the reason, and you know, you have a new
Speaker 1: stadium now. The new stadiums unbelievable, especially for the amenities
Speaker 1: for the players and the fans. But a lot of
Speaker 1: times it looked like it's empty because there's all these
Speaker 1: underground suits, restaurants and you know, you can watch games
Speaker 1: in the hallways old Yankee Stadium. If you wanted to
Speaker 1: watch the game, you had to be sitting in your seat.
Speaker 1: And a I used to watch the game from the roof.
Speaker 1: Ye yes, yes, yes, you can't even get you can
Speaker 1: get into the stadium when you can watch it after
Speaker 1: like the after it wasn't fact they used to come
Speaker 1: around and give out tickets, yo, golfellas, you know, to
Speaker 1: make it fluffing up. When we was young, we didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing. We should go to the roof and look
Speaker 1: through the slat in right field talk. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: had to do it and and and the thing is
Speaker 1: is that's what made it intimidate. People didn't want to
Speaker 1: come here, uncomfortable coming to the Bronx. And I think
Speaker 1: that played as an advantage to us psychological because you
Speaker 1: remember the players used to come through the back, through
Speaker 1: the gate parking lot, through the people, walk through the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was literally a park. The player parking lot was hit.
Speaker 1: It's a street that people drive and we had a
Speaker 1: park with the basketball courts and everything, hamble everything, so
Speaker 1: everybody it's just movement. So the players is coming. If
Speaker 1: you was a Yankee, we loved you. If it was
Speaker 1: like a red Sock or Mariner, the boll accedentally hit you.
Speaker 1: There's still batteries that stadium, man, Yeah, it was it
Speaker 1: was great. Great. This is this is so crazy because
Speaker 1: I can I can literally see I've been to both stadiums.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, I haven't been to a
Speaker 1: lot of the games. I've always watched them. I was
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan all my life. Like he said, it's generational.
Speaker 1: You don't have no choice, like the yet y'all queens,
Speaker 1: you should be fighting with the just run again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: growing up, like like growing up, you gotta be you
Speaker 1: from here. If you come around with the Bosston, have
Speaker 1: we taken your head? And he kind of had, let's
Speaker 1: just this one. So it was like, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: that move, let me ask you one question. Why why
Speaker 1: is this only official? Yeah, it has to be gra
Speaker 1: that's the original. He just tells you these guys. Yeah, everyone,
Speaker 1: you don't need me here. The fucking Yankee specialists like that.
Speaker 1: My nephew dude and Diego. They pulled me to the side.
Speaker 1: We said that jersey that you post line, you embarrassed us.
Speaker 1: Good friends. That's good friends, friends hoping somebody see. I
Speaker 1: had no idea, Like I literally they literally had an intervention.
Speaker 1: So we're like, yo, we got there just coming tomorrow
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they had to talk before
Speaker 1: when it just all came to me at the same time,
Speaker 1: it was like listen, buddy, we we actually take it
Speaker 1: all for Instagram down. I was like, what, there's like
Speaker 1: we are not wearing on the back and I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm bleeding with them. I'm like, come on, man, it's
Speaker 1: just a it's a fanship. They're like, no, I said,
Speaker 1: let me just fan out. They're like, no, you are
Speaker 1: not bringing it and and to hear you co sign it.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get away with this. By the way,
Speaker 1: Sunny d your dad, I don't know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like no, but it's okay to keep buying the church
Speaker 1: taking right, you know. It's crazy. So when after they
Speaker 1: hit me with the information, I had my my boy
Speaker 1: diego call Actually Yankee Stadi stand stand. So we call
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, no, his jersey's still sold out.
Speaker 1: Do you know that? I don't, but thank you. That
Speaker 1: was like, and you know, we want to braxt were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're interviewing Derek's here. You know, I never
Speaker 1: like wh these asholes. He's like, but but she didn't know,
Speaker 1: she didn't know what She's like, No, his jersey is
Speaker 1: still sold out. She's like I felt like she was
Speaker 1: a black lady because she was like child honeys for
Speaker 1: a long time. I just went back to the stadium
Speaker 1: for the whole week ago. How did we not talk
Speaker 1: about the Holy Fame? Yea. I remember when we first
Speaker 1: tried to get get you for the interview, and I
Speaker 1: believe Mike called me and Mike said, why don't we
Speaker 1: wait to after after um he gets the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame him? And I just remember that call was so
Speaker 1: fly to me approach. He just said to me after
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I was like, Oh, I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew he was lost? How
Speaker 1: how is I know? We said, I spoke a little
Speaker 1: about it earlier. Did you know he was being adducted
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame prior? No? No, no, no.
Speaker 1: And it was one dude that didn't vote for you.
Speaker 1: Remember his name is I don't you know? No, you
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know who it is. But let
Speaker 1: me let me start with first of all, I don't
Speaker 1: care and the reason why. You know, it's tough to
Speaker 1: get that many people to agree on anything in life, right,
Speaker 1: And who would I be to say everyone should have
Speaker 1: voted for me? I mean, Hank Karon wasn't you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Babe? Ruth wasn't unanimate. You go through
Speaker 1: There's only been one, which is Mariano. The only issue
Speaker 1: that I have is as an athlete, reporters expect you
Speaker 1: to be accountable. They expect you to sit there and
Speaker 1: answer questions about how you performed. And now I have
Speaker 1: to answer questions about whoever this one individual is. You know,
Speaker 1: like the last a few years, I got to answer
Speaker 1: the question he or she should be the one that's
Speaker 1: answering the question of why they didn't vote for me.
Speaker 1: I don't care, right, I don't care. They don't put
Speaker 1: the number of votes on the Hall of Fame fact like, right.
Speaker 1: But but if you're preaching accountability, you have to be
Speaker 1: accountable yourself. I ain't gonna lie. It's a good one.
Speaker 1: Look at my legs. I know you're going down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: reporter is that did because you could be humble? Let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me take this. Whoever that reporter is,
Speaker 1: we want to put horseship in your shoes, damn. So
Speaker 1: make sure you can protect your feets because we're looking
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, we're looking for you. Holy yo, quick time. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this is where this is where the show gets a
Speaker 1: little crazy. Right, we fancy for crazy. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're keeping boys down. I feel like that, like it's
Speaker 1: the principal gonna come out of Okay, we got quick time. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll explain the game. It's very simple. Uh, you
Speaker 1: don't have to take the shots. We'll we'll be the
Speaker 1: bollsos for you to take the shots. We're just gonna Okay,
Speaker 1: So what did it? We'll give you two choices. We'll
Speaker 1: give you, Uh if you say both be politically correct,
Speaker 1: then we take a shot, or neither if you say
Speaker 1: both are needed. If you don't pick one choice, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: the first one is fantastic. That was you? Okay, that
Speaker 1: first one's fantastic. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: Ozzie Smith or Cal Ripton Jr. He already knows this game.
Speaker 1: These are good, Okay. Can I explain it's not just
Speaker 1: one of you. I will go with Cal And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why because when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I was a taller short stope six ft two six three,
Speaker 1: and everyone used to say, you know, you're too tall
Speaker 1: to play the position. And as a tall shortstop, your
Speaker 1: first line of defense was we'll look at cal rickn Jr. Right,
Speaker 1: So Cal sort of changed the mold for shortstops being
Speaker 1: taller so I would say cal just because he was
Speaker 1: closer to I'm not diving around flip into him back
Speaker 1: flips like I can't relate to Ozzy. I can't relate
Speaker 1: to Ozzy. Okay, baby Wolf or Lou Garrett damn man
Speaker 1: love But what what? But? But is there more to
Speaker 1: the question? Is if you want to say both people,
Speaker 1: we will drink for you. I feel like I'm getting
Speaker 1: chat R lou Was Lou Was, lou Was, m Yankee
Speaker 1: captain Babes, larger than life. Just just get the drink.
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm just brown, brown, man bad, gonna be
Speaker 1: proud of you. Were getting you that jail? Okay, where
Speaker 1: is it? It's basically the same thing. Anyway, This is
Speaker 1: to you, This is to you. How many of these
Speaker 1: questions we got it? Oh? Because you're from Kendall, I
Speaker 1: want you to ask the next one. Or Barry Larkin, man,
Speaker 1: I mean I played with Alex. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's my teammate Berry. I love Barry Larkin because, um
Speaker 1: he went to University of Michigan. I grew up in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I love Barry Laren, But I played with Alex. Okay
Speaker 1: who Bernie Williams or Ricky Henderson the same thing I
Speaker 1: played with Bernie. But I mean, but Ricky Henderson man
Speaker 1: greatest leadoff hitter in the baseball history. I love Ricky.
Speaker 1: I used to just watch situation Yeah from the Bronx
Speaker 1: Okay two pocket DMX. The game is made for that.
Speaker 1: The game is made that thinks you just made his
Speaker 1: made just for that. You drink yeah, Brome, take this
Speaker 1: whole shot. The captain is it's not making the and
Speaker 1: we're coming off the last night. Thank you, sir. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a great one, all right. Dallas Strawberry or
Speaker 1: Tino Martina Columbia, yours would say, you know what they do,
Speaker 1: let me just explain what happened. We come, we sit
Speaker 1: down with together, and then they analyze everything and then
Speaker 1: they start making up ship that they think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard for you. So if you have any beef,
Speaker 1: that's the Dominican right there. We're going to the show.
Speaker 1: And then the Colombia. Well, first of all, I would say,
Speaker 1: both me explain, let me explain. Cheers. M Um. Tina
Speaker 1: one of my closest friends during my career. You live
Speaker 1: down the street from me in Tampa. Um, I got
Speaker 1: my first major league hit. Tina was the first basement
Speaker 1: for Seattle, and he told me, congratulations, just the first
Speaker 1: of many. Right, you got Straw? The Yankee signed Straw.
Speaker 1: He came to Triple A, played with him in Triple A,
Speaker 1: and and Daryl was like a big brother to me,
Speaker 1: especially early on in my career. He sat me down
Speaker 1: and told me the expectations of playing in New York.
Speaker 1: Who you need to look out for all the mistakes
Speaker 1: he made. Don't fall into the same trap. He played
Speaker 1: for the medicine and so I think you know they're there.
Speaker 1: You talk, yeah, I mean you talk about players that
Speaker 1: you know. My my my thing. In anything you do.
Speaker 1: You can't be an expert at anything unless you've done it.
Speaker 1: You can't be You can be knowledgeable, but you're not
Speaker 1: an expert unless you've gone through it. Now, straight marriage
Speaker 1: adviceful person that never been married exactly, you said that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, um so so Straw is someone
Speaker 1: that had experience in terms of being a young player,
Speaker 1: came to New York at a young age, had success,
Speaker 1: Thank you for the water, had success. Um made mistakes
Speaker 1: and he shared those mistakes, and he looked out for me.
Speaker 1: So I can't pick one. We already did it, what
Speaker 1: we done. This is a good one, This is a
Speaker 1: good one, This is this is this, I don't want
Speaker 1: to call it this stair where's questing? But who can say?
Speaker 1: Walk with wire? All right? I mean honestly, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you, jose Can Saco. It's easier to
Speaker 1: rhyme in my rhymes. But you know what I played
Speaker 1: with jose He was on a Yankees for a minute.
Speaker 1: He was Yankees for a minute. Serial issues with jose
Speaker 1: Can Saco. You know he was pretty quiet when he
Speaker 1: was with us. He wasn't with us long. He was
Speaker 1: with us in UM two thousand when we won the
Speaker 1: World Series. You know, Mark, I don't know, Well I don't,
Speaker 1: But why why why You've never been acute taking any
Speaker 1: and it has been nothing. I don't know. Check the
Speaker 1: way I always looked at it were um two things.
Speaker 1: One my dad was a drugging alcoholic, youst counselor. I've
Speaker 1: heard stories growing up. It scared me to death right
Speaker 1: to this day. I when I'm doing something, I try
Speaker 1: not to disappoint my parents. You know that fear you
Speaker 1: have kids, You know what I mean? And too with
Speaker 1: the Yankee organization, we got compensated for winning. Yeah, stats
Speaker 1: are great, you put up stats, but ultimately, if you won,
Speaker 1: you got paid. That's the only thing that I cared
Speaker 1: about was winning. But so there was no user. Never
Speaker 1: at the gym, and somebody can try to pump you
Speaker 1: some some roys. Somebody came like that to me. That's
Speaker 1: how somebodyself steroids because listen, listen my way, let me
Speaker 1: let's list let's we live in my I'm not going
Speaker 1: down to you. Better stay over there, chail listening FLEXI
Speaker 1: like that. It's the only place in Miami, right, I
Speaker 1: mean Equal Knox randomly, I mean Equal Knox. Jim. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm thinking, I'm and the dude just walks up
Speaker 1: to me and says, hey, man, we could cut this down.
Speaker 1: Shut up very fast. Process, he said. So I say,
Speaker 1: I've never been open steroids before in my life. So
Speaker 1: I said what he said, Man, I got that, Dang,
Speaker 1: two weeks you'd be a different man. I just like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you what. Let's let's
Speaker 1: let's clarify one thing. You know, And first of all,
Speaker 1: you know when when when you hear people say it
Speaker 1: was the steroid era everybody was doing and bullshit, everybody
Speaker 1: was not doing that's right, And it wasn't you And
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I never didn't wasn't. It wasn't like you
Speaker 1: walk in a clubhouse and all the teammates were getting
Speaker 1: together saying, you know you're taking this, you're taking that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The position I was in
Speaker 1: in the organization. First of all, if you thought someone
Speaker 1: was doing something, do you think they're gonna come tell
Speaker 1: me about it? You know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: not like it was just just open secret that everyone
Speaker 1: was discussing. It wasn't right. That's that's ill, because all right,
Speaker 1: let's move out of the staterboys are all right. I
Speaker 1: was trying to distract you from these questions. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take a shot for that myself. Oh
Speaker 1: I like this one. M j Lebron. I mean, Michael's
Speaker 1: my like my big brother man. So love Lebron. I
Speaker 1: don't know him well, you know, I've only met him
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I love him, but Michael's a
Speaker 1: big brother. I can't I can't believe how much Jordan
Speaker 1: was in your documentary like like because you could tell
Speaker 1: he doesn't do nothing like for nobody, and the fact
Speaker 1: that he came out and supported you it made it
Speaker 1: made it look good and then didn't think about it.
Speaker 1: Is I started to realize that y'all are like if
Speaker 1: they was to say Michael Jordan, they say he's the
Speaker 1: Derek Jeta of basketball. I don't know who says that.
Speaker 1: I do. A couple of young brothers here, right, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and the Wayne way it is, my friend, it's a
Speaker 1: couple of young brothers here. So they say, they say
Speaker 1: to him, well, Derek Jeeta is to what Dave County
Speaker 1: is to with the Wayne way it is. And I
Speaker 1: had to say stop please, and I said, no, he
Speaker 1: is the Michael Jordan. Well, first of all, I appreciate it, um,
Speaker 1: but I expect the way Michael and I met when
Speaker 1: he was actually playing baseball. Right, So he was playing
Speaker 1: baseball and we're playing and there's this lead called the
Speaker 1: Arizona All League where they take the top prospects in
Speaker 1: the minor leagues and they play. When the season is over,
Speaker 1: they play an extra few weeks in Arizona. So this
Speaker 1: is where I met Michael for the first time. I
Speaker 1: was nineteen years old. I had just one minor league
Speaker 1: player of the Year, right, I got that, And and
Speaker 1: and we're playing Michael's playing in Scottsdale, and he was
Speaker 1: on second base. Yeah, in Arizona. So so he was
Speaker 1: on second base, and first thing he said to me is,
Speaker 1: what's up, DJ. I'm Mike. There's another DJ behind me.
Speaker 1: And UM. From that point forward, Man, he just always
Speaker 1: looked out for me. He always looked out for me,
Speaker 1: and I appreciated it and taught me how to handle yourself,
Speaker 1: not only on the field off the field, on the court.
Speaker 1: Off the court. UM still go to him for advice.
Speaker 1: You talked about all these athletes that are involved in business.
Speaker 1: He was the first, him in Magic, Him and Magic,
Speaker 1: they were the first. And UM, but Michael's always looked
Speaker 1: out for me, man, And literally he's he's like a
Speaker 1: big brother to me because like my Mike with everybody.
Speaker 1: So the fact the fact that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like I said, he's in the whole documentary. I
Speaker 1: thought that was very impressive. Okay, New Yorker, Miami, good
Speaker 1: good one. Sorry, y'all, we understand we're gonna get jumped
Speaker 1: after the way. But it's okay, major League. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell you're saying that or the bad
Speaker 1: news bears league. Major League is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: the first one, the first okay, so you picked Major
Speaker 1: leaue the first one? Okay? Michael Jackson or Prince were drinking. Uh,
Speaker 1: just the music because you know you gotta music. Don't
Speaker 1: matter which where the other one? Net one, Prince, Dave
Speaker 1: Winfield or Reggie Jackson. God damn. First of all, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't eat yet. Um, Dave was my favorite
Speaker 1: player growing up. Um, I love Dave Winfield. One of
Speaker 1: the first athletes to have their own foundation. So when
Speaker 1: I was younger, I was reading up on Dave and yeah,
Speaker 1: Dave Winfield post on my wall, and Um, I told
Speaker 1: my parents, I said, if and when I make it
Speaker 1: to the Major League, I'm start my own foundation. Reason
Speaker 1: why I started my own foundation Dave Winfield. I spent
Speaker 1: more time with Reggie during my career because Reggie worked
Speaker 1: for the organization, and Reggie used to come around and
Speaker 1: every time he'd come to the Yankee Stadium, he'd come
Speaker 1: right to my locker and he'd sit down, said sit
Speaker 1: down and read what you got for me, and so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say both. You know I can't
Speaker 1: pick between the two. Um, it's a shot. But hold
Speaker 1: on a second, why why why? Just yeah? Everyone? Just
Speaker 1: you all the captain. You want to see how powerful
Speaker 1: you are right now? This in case you want me
Speaker 1: to fret your power. The captain said, take a shot. Ain't.
Speaker 1: No one here knows. Ain't nobody. Were all excited by
Speaker 1: the way. We're all excited. We all we feel my
Speaker 1: show late at night, but we we said, were on
Speaker 1: your time. I appreciate we all appreciated. I will be
Speaker 1: tonight by about three theories. That's good. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: a good time to me. Mickey mantew or Joe di Maggio, Man, Like,
Speaker 1: why do we even answer? OK, let's take the shot
Speaker 1: man for ten minutes. So I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: Joe DiMaggio used to come to Yankee Old Timer's Day
Speaker 1: and I never spoke to him. I never spoke to him. Now,
Speaker 1: I was scared to death, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was scared to death. I didn't want to I'm
Speaker 1: always I don't want to bother people, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I don't want to get in their space.
Speaker 1: So he he was intimidated by him. Mickey Mantel passed
Speaker 1: um a few years prior to so you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Mickey at all, but um Joe dimagi I
Speaker 1: was afraid to speak to Okay, I'm gonna stop of that. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you got using you Jo, you cheap? No I
Speaker 1: needed it. This is wicked do whatever or nas oh
Speaker 1: man damn? I like this? Yeah, man, come on now
Speaker 1: right man, the biggest resident. You gotta take both. I
Speaker 1: you know I know um Ja a little bit better
Speaker 1: because I had more interactions with Jane. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: used to come to more games. You know what I mean? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean when when when it comes you say, and
Speaker 1: they get bread sticks? Right there were drinking m he
Speaker 1: said both yea remember that? So um But let me
Speaker 1: ask that famous line jay Z said. He said he
Speaker 1: would Yankee had more famous than the Yankee King, more
Speaker 1: famous than they. I don't necessarily agree with that. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree that. I don't necessarily agree that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. But but it was a hard line. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was I like the line
Speaker 1: I do um, Let me get through this, and then
Speaker 1: I didn't want to own you got more? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: just only a couple more, just more, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: nothing explaining about I'm gonna skip that one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go because I don't know, Damn, I don't know one
Speaker 1: Roger Clemens or Andy and oh man, you know I
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, you know, I gotta go with Andy
Speaker 1: because I played with Andy since I was eighteen years
Speaker 1: Here's here's a fact for you. But so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get to rocket in a minute, So um, thank me.
Speaker 1: Andy Pettitt, Mariano Rivera and j Posodic called the Core four.
Speaker 1: Now they leave Bernie Williams out of it. And the
Speaker 1: only reason why they don't mention Bernie is because Bernie
Speaker 1: wasn't there in two thousand nine when we won our
Speaker 1: fifth championship. That's when the nickname came the Core for
Speaker 1: so everyone's like Bernie should have been a part of
Speaker 1: the court. Wey. Anytime you talk to any of us,
Speaker 1: the first person we mentioned is Bernie Williams, right, because um,
Speaker 1: you know, we wouldn't have got a chance without Bernie.
Speaker 1: So Andy pettit was an idiot, and he left and
Speaker 1: went to Houston for a couple of years and he
Speaker 1: came back myself. Mariano and Jorge are the only three
Speaker 1: athletes in any of the professional sports to play seventeen
Speaker 1: years together. Wow, it would have been four of us,
Speaker 1: like it's those three. So so Andy I knows his
Speaker 1: eighteen I gotta pick Andy just because I'm done with
Speaker 1: you guys, with this whole game. But Roger Clemens, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't hear now, Roger Clemmens. I hated Roger Clemens
Speaker 1: when I played against him. Hate him. Used to hit
Speaker 1: me all the time. You try to intimidate you. You
Speaker 1: go to All Star Games. You wouldn't speak to hitters.
Speaker 1: Play with Roger Clemens. He's one of the best teammates
Speaker 1: you'll have. Yes, yes, yes, yes, So you know I
Speaker 1: love Rocket, Um, but I picked Andy on history by
Speaker 1: far fire to kill O'Neil or Kareem abdul Jabbar. Man?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Man? How does how does
Speaker 1: this end up? For most people? They keep drinking this?
Speaker 1: This is how we get them. I love like, I
Speaker 1: really do. I love Shack. Um. I've met um, Kareem
Speaker 1: as well. Couldn't have been better both of them. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, Kareem go down is one of the top
Speaker 1: two three, I mean the one to three, four or
Speaker 1: five on MJ's one. But you know, and and shock too,
Speaker 1: so I both I gotta continue, I gotta keep relationships
Speaker 1: because I'll be skipping doing the rest of this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just end it with the last one is the
Speaker 1: last one for the Quick Time of Slim. Everyone thinks
Speaker 1: it's a trick question. Me and E F And don't
Speaker 1: think it's a true question. We think it's the most
Speaker 1: easiest question. I think that's what you think too, where
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, it's a no brainer. Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 1: Loyalty because I think if you're loyal, you gained respect
Speaker 1: from people to loyalty. So because one of my favorite
Speaker 1: moments is when the your parents is in the stadium
Speaker 1: and then you look at them and then that was
Speaker 1: your nephew there was and he has so much swag.
Speaker 1: He like everyone know it's it's it's funny because it's
Speaker 1: you know, that whole my whole last game I played
Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium and um I played for parts of
Speaker 1: twenty seasons and um I only played one game in
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium that didn't count. One game where we're eliminated
Speaker 1: only one. Every other game we were still in playoff
Speaker 1: contention or we're getting ready to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The only game I played we're eliminated was the last
Speaker 1: game I played in Yankee Stadium. And you know, everyone
Speaker 1: talks about, oh, it was all set up right, you know,
Speaker 1: David Robinson is supposed to give up to home runs
Speaker 1: so you can come up and get a walk off
Speaker 1: hit and your nephews him in his cap, Like it
Speaker 1: wasn't planning. This is not a movie. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: we practiced it, yeah, exactly. So it's just everything just
Speaker 1: sort of just lined up. And people say, you know,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite game that you played and obviously talked
Speaker 1: about when you win championships. But that's the freshest in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know, because the last game I played
Speaker 1: Yankees Staum and it didn't count. It didn't mean anything
Speaker 1: for the Yankees as an organization, but it meant something
Speaker 1: for Yankee fans and for me because we grew up together.
Speaker 1: And and it's kind of embarrassing to say it's the
Speaker 1: only one didn't count, but it counted for me. Now,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm forty five years old. My
Speaker 1: father is uh, God bless he passed away. Hard baseball fan,
Speaker 1: that hard Yankee fan. He was actually uh from Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: then moved to harm and then he moved to Queens.
Speaker 1: But and I have never seen the respectful baseball player
Speaker 1: like I've never seen. If you ever if you said
Speaker 1: that New York has ever like turned on you, well,
Speaker 1: like I've never seen I've never seen somebody with so
Speaker 1: much love. Do you know? Do you know like you're
Speaker 1: one of the most beloved baseball most were playing up
Speaker 1: all time, but definitely one of the most loved Yankees
Speaker 1: the all time. Like people use you as an example.
Speaker 1: Do you know that I know that, I know that
Speaker 1: we talked about it before. I know that they appreciate
Speaker 1: players that come to work every day. You have come
Speaker 1: to work every day, man, And you can't make excuses.
Speaker 1: New Yorkers don't want to hear excuses. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like I've said it before, when you know you have
Speaker 1: sometimes you have athletes and and um, I say it respectfully,
Speaker 1: but you know they're playing a game. They're saying, I'm
Speaker 1: eight percent fun is eight percent? Man? You either player,
Speaker 1: you don't I don't want to hear about them. You
Speaker 1: play the game or you don't, and if you do
Speaker 1: well or you do poorly, you stand in front of
Speaker 1: your locker and you answer questions and you don't use
Speaker 1: things as an excuse. There's no built in excuses in
Speaker 1: New York. You can't fool New Yorkers, man, And you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't for a short period of time. But they're
Speaker 1: gonna figure you out. And I think if you know,
Speaker 1: I was there for twenty years, and um, they would
Speaker 1: have figured me out if I was if I was
Speaker 1: someone other than you know, people always say, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you have a great image. It's an image, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's no image, it's character characters who you are, image
Speaker 1: who you want everyone else to see you as, right right,
Speaker 1: I don't care what my images with you. I want
Speaker 1: to have a good character, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think New Yorkers appreciate that. And um man,
Speaker 1: I I say the same thing about them. New Yorkers
Speaker 1: are they're they're they're very clear with what their expectations are.
Speaker 1: You know they are. What was Mike good in basketball? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something, um like, because you know,
Speaker 1: look a lot of people laugh, Oh, Michael was this,
Speaker 1: Michael was at Michael Jordan played basketball, I mean played
Speaker 1: baseball in little league, and then the next time he
Speaker 1: played he's playing in double A baseball. Now, when you
Speaker 1: played in the minor leagues, once you get to double A,
Speaker 1: the biggest jump, right, I just wanted for everyone listening.
Speaker 1: You know, you have rookie ball, you have low A,
Speaker 1: you have high A, you have double A, you have
Speaker 1: triple A. Then you get to the major leagues. Once
Speaker 1: you get to double A, the biggest jump is from
Speaker 1: A to double A. If you can play in double
Speaker 1: A baseball, you can play in the major leagues. Right,
Speaker 1: At some point you can play in the major league.
Speaker 1: He went from little league to double A and hit
Speaker 1: two hundred, right, which everyone's like, oh, he hit two hundreds,
Speaker 1: and that's not easy to do. A lot of people
Speaker 1: feel the real lives cap that baseball is a game
Speaker 1: of failures. Yes, yes, like a great achievement, but that's
Speaker 1: three hundred out of a thousand. Yeah. I hit my
Speaker 1: first year, I was mentioned the high school player of
Speaker 1: the year. I went to rookie ball, hit two O
Speaker 1: two two O two and had a great two weeks.
Speaker 1: I was hot the last two weeks to get just
Speaker 1: over to two. So it's it's it's tough to do,
Speaker 1: and people just think you you watch something on television
Speaker 1: and because you're great at one sport, it should translate
Speaker 1: into another. Doesn't happen like that. So Michael was a
Speaker 1: lot better than people give him credit for. And if
Speaker 1: he played longer, I think he would have just continue
Speaker 1: to improve. That last game that you had, it seems
Speaker 1: like you was fighting back tears the whole time. It
Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, because because you know, one thing that
Speaker 1: we know about everybody that's great, the announced the retirement
Speaker 1: like two or three times and then they never really retired.
Speaker 1: But did you know that that was really gonna be
Speaker 1: a last game? Yeah? Yeah. Before the season I knew,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to everyone said, oh, why did
Speaker 1: you say this is gonna be your last year? Because
Speaker 1: I knew If I didn't say it was gonna be
Speaker 1: the last year, I would have been asked the question
Speaker 1: every series, every serious is this your last year? Is
Speaker 1: your last year? And I always said, um, I'm playing
Speaker 1: a sport for a career. If it's not fun and
Speaker 1: if it feels like it's a job, I'm done. I
Speaker 1: broke my ankle twice. It was a lot of rehab
Speaker 1: and now it finally became it felt like it was
Speaker 1: a job. So I was like, man, I'm done. This
Speaker 1: is my last year. I have not throwing a baseball
Speaker 1: or swung a bat since I retired, with an exception
Speaker 1: of throwing off the first pitch twice. I was done. Man,
Speaker 1: so right now if he won't play one on one
Speaker 1: and stickball? Yeah, so did you purposely wait to have children?
Speaker 1: So after part of the documentary, So so, first of all,
Speaker 1: what's by the way, I love the document you did.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. UM purposely waited? I
Speaker 1: didn't meet the right woman right to the camera. But
Speaker 1: but but look, let me, I'll be honest with you
Speaker 1: in terms of UM, I've always had UM a great
Speaker 1: deal of admiration and somewhat I don't want to say jealousy,
Speaker 1: because you know you're not jealous of other people. UM,
Speaker 1: but people brought they brought their kids in the clubhouse
Speaker 1: on the field. But I just knew that I was
Speaker 1: way too selfish during my career, way too selfish. It
Speaker 1: was all about me and it wouldn't have been fair
Speaker 1: to my significant other or kids. The great the greatest
Speaker 1: thing I can say about my parents, as they were
Speaker 1: always present and everything I did me and my sister,
Speaker 1: they were present. They were there, and I always wanted
Speaker 1: to be there for my kids as well. So, Um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say purposely I didn't read meet the right person. Um,
Speaker 1: but I knew that for me. In order you say
Speaker 1: the right it's got to be the right time for you.
Speaker 1: It has to also be the right time for your
Speaker 1: significant other. And thank god I met my wife when
Speaker 1: I did towards the end of my career. You're a girl, dad,
Speaker 1: I am yeah. I got, yeah, I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got. Don't clap pray for me. I got three
Speaker 1: of them. Man, five three and a half and ten months.
Speaker 1: I need to notice. Tell us how you felt a
Speaker 1: three thousand with the Home Run? Um well, I toldly
Speaker 1: everyone was gonna hit home Run movie that movie stuff. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I told everyone I was gonna do it. I'm just spreading,
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. You know what the thing is is,
Speaker 1: I struggled. I always struggled when it was all about me,
Speaker 1: which is why I struggled. I in my mind, why
Speaker 1: I struggled my last year because it's all about everything. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it was all about me and answering questions, not about
Speaker 1: the team. It was strictly on me. So um. Leading
Speaker 1: up to three thousand hits, I struggled bad, you know,
Speaker 1: and I got hurt. Um. All I wanted was when
Speaker 1: I got my three thousand hit, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a clean hit because it's gonna be showed over and stadium.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it at Yankee Stadium. Put a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on myself to do it at Yankee
Speaker 1: Stadium and show up. Do you talk to Aaron right
Speaker 1: now because he's chasing he's chasing the sixty two? Because
Speaker 1: not direct because a similar thing. I just say, not directly,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of times you have everyone
Speaker 1: in your ear and there's too much noise. Everyone has
Speaker 1: an opinion. Um, So I think sometimes you just gotta
Speaker 1: remove yourself from all the noise and just do what
Speaker 1: you continue to do. Yeah, so let's let's talk about
Speaker 1: the three thousand for a second, because no picture actually
Speaker 1: wants to be the person you hit over. What was that? Ever?
Speaker 1: A discrepancy was people were like purposely walking you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't necessarily say that, because, um,
Speaker 1: you can't. It's tough to walk someone over and over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. Look, you talk about Aaron's
Speaker 1: hitting home runs. Man, that's different than getting hits, right,
Speaker 1: you know, it's completely different. Um, So I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: I I looked at it as people were trying to
Speaker 1: pitch around me. I wouldn't say that you didn't think
Speaker 1: you didn't think they was that golic bread goddamnit be needed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so y'all have to thank you. Okay, this is great,
Speaker 1: this is great. I got mad notes though, because you
Speaker 1: got seven parts of this beautiful documentary. And again I
Speaker 1: really really appreciate like you holding down my city like
Speaker 1: it was crazy because some of the best years in
Speaker 1: hip hop because when the Yankees the Yankee and you,
Speaker 1: you're going but you know what, there was the rise
Speaker 1: of New York. It was thinking about it all happened
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, so it's we're all connected. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. Oh man, Okay, okay, damn did he
Speaker 1: Oh did he named you the prince because he said
Speaker 1: that evidently it was calling you the king of New Yorker.
Speaker 1: Did he say that's the rum? Yeah? Your documentary. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is, yeah it is. But you know, look, did
Speaker 1: you hang out with Big I didn't. No, no, never, no,
Speaker 1: never never met him. No, that's right before I got there.
Speaker 1: How about punt No Joe, Yeah, but not punt no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Holy ship. Okay, so down to
Speaker 1: in the nineties World Series? How do how do how
Speaker 1: do this is against Boston again? Atlanta? Atlanta. Describe what
Speaker 1: was going on at that moment um the way I
Speaker 1: always looked at sports, right, Baseball, actually, anything? Every single day,
Speaker 1: do you have an opportunity to win a game? I
Speaker 1: treated a spring training game the exact same as seventh
Speaker 1: game of World Series. So once you get into that situation, right,
Speaker 1: So we had lost two games and it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: win game three, win game three, win game four, and
Speaker 1: then we won four in a row to win the
Speaker 1: World Series. So I just don't think. I think sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, my my biggest thing in in in life
Speaker 1: that makes me most uncomfortable as being unprepared. And that's
Speaker 1: in anything. If you're unprepared. You hear athletes talk about
Speaker 1: game speeds up, slows down. What slows down when you're prepared?
Speaker 1: Speeds up when you're unprepared. Right, so every time you're
Speaker 1: in a situation, I've already gone through it in my head.
Speaker 1: And if you have the same approach to a spring
Speaker 1: training game as you do a World Series game, nothing changes.
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing, by the way. But the Baltimore fight,
Speaker 1: you remember, we've been and we we we've gone from
Speaker 1: two to ninety eight. Are the Baltimore fight? Okay, you
Speaker 1: moved straw? They were straw? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the
Speaker 1: Yankees bullies. No, we weren't bullies, but you couldn't bully us,
Speaker 1: right right, I think it's the best way to put
Speaker 1: it right now. We were we were, we were bullies.
Speaker 1: It's the Yanes for that is the block some bullies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm gonna tell you something that hit
Speaker 1: me in the documentary, right And it was the only
Speaker 1: time I was like because I didn't think that you
Speaker 1: whatever go through something like this. I remember me meeting
Speaker 1: with Leo comes and Leo cons I had a contract
Speaker 1: with him, and Leo Colins told me, I said, I
Speaker 1: got more money offer over here, and Leo Colon said,
Speaker 1: but this is defa you're gonna sell more with me,
Speaker 1: So I don't care who gives you another offer? The
Speaker 1: Yankees of this ship, and I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: know Death Jam was biting off of the Yankees. So
Speaker 1: when I actually said that, they was like, oh and
Speaker 1: then that was their explanation. You with the Yankees, bitch?
Speaker 1: So I said, oh, Ship, you real talk? So I said, oh, Ship.
Speaker 1: So it's like, damn, they almost make you pay less
Speaker 1: to be with the winning team. Makes sense though, And
Speaker 1: because I remember me seeing that and and they saying
Speaker 1: to you, well, go ahead, you go shop, shop shop.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I think I think I single handedly
Speaker 1: seen your face expressions. I've seen you change from that
Speaker 1: moment because I felt like he was loyal to our
Speaker 1: organization and then that organization was just business wise to you.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like that at that time? Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, let me let me let me preface it
Speaker 1: with I'm gonna just give you my thoughts of during
Speaker 1: the time. During the time, because now being in another
Speaker 1: another side of it, everyone just want to say, you
Speaker 1: know you on the other side, I look at us
Speaker 1: another side of the sport, right, Um, So I understand
Speaker 1: why certain decisions are made during the time. Like I
Speaker 1: said in the documentary, when I was a free agent.
Speaker 1: I was only free agent once in my career, and
Speaker 1: right when I World Series over, you could be a
Speaker 1: free agent. I went and met with our owner and
Speaker 1: GM team president, my agent, and I said, look, verbatim,
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Not go anywhere, I said. I
Speaker 1: told my agent, I probably shouldn't do this in negotiations,
Speaker 1: but I told my agent, if any other team calls,
Speaker 1: tell them I'm not interested, treat me fairly, don't make
Speaker 1: it public. The only thing I asked, and then they
Speaker 1: made it public, was that the kids. Was that the boss, No,
Speaker 1: that was front office? Was the both still around at
Speaker 1: that time? No? No, well here, yeah. I actually when
Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like, because it was zimbled
Speaker 1: something that I had just went through, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't do And I was like, damn, this New
Speaker 1: York is the Yankees is definitely I was like, damn
Speaker 1: they actually they actually it's foul. But but because you know,
Speaker 1: it was your business, you know, I get it's a
Speaker 1: business man, but it's a business. But but um, you
Speaker 1: know you're always here in sports yet But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere. I said, I wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: I tell you're not going anywhere. Um. But but you know,
Speaker 1: it goes back to like I said in the documentary
Speaker 1: Loyalty One way, stupidity exactly. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Um you know, look, I'm gonna just show you in
Speaker 1: my notes Loyalty one it's stupid. Yeah. So it's it's
Speaker 1: I told him I wasn't going anywhere. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: go anywhere regardless of what happened. Right, I'm beyond that.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, we're talking about other situations. I'm
Speaker 1: that that's no friction whatsoever. I understand there's there's different
Speaker 1: sizes of the business. I really do. I get that now,
Speaker 1: even more so than when I played. Did you get
Speaker 1: that more that your owner when you became an owner,
Speaker 1: that you understand their position or understand you know, as
Speaker 1: a player, it's it's it's right now. It's always right now.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about ownership, front office, you're thinking three,
Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven years down the road. You
Speaker 1: have to take that in consideration. As an athlete, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is who I am today, this is who I'm
Speaker 1: going to be next year. That's what I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: ten years. May you never think you're gonna go the
Speaker 1: other direction, and you never think your organization is not
Speaker 1: going to appreciate you to the extent. Like like like
Speaker 1: when I when I heard that story, I was just
Speaker 1: like because I didn't remember, Like I was like, no,
Speaker 1: there's no way that that happened. And then I'm sitting
Speaker 1: back sitting but I was like, yeah, this is actually happened.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, at the time, you think, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe they're not they don't appreciate you, But now it
Speaker 1: wasn't a they don't appreciate I think. I never I
Speaker 1: never thought that they I shouldn't they never thought. I
Speaker 1: don't think now that they didn't appreciate me. They always
Speaker 1: appreciated me. But it was a business decision. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: As as much as you can be loyal to an
Speaker 1: organization and give them your loyalty, it's still something that
Speaker 1: can that's in life though it's not just organization. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, it's oh man, like I ain't gonna lie that.
Speaker 1: That was a deep me watching that because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I went through it. I just had somebody to sit
Speaker 1: down with me and tell me that you had you
Speaker 1: are here this is where you at. You can't and
Speaker 1: guess what, just like you, I stayed with them. Look
Speaker 1: at you, Leo Cole. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: You were right. He was right, he was right. I
Speaker 1: sold more records with him, They put me on tour,
Speaker 1: they did me everything that they did. But at the time,
Speaker 1: I felt unappreciated that. I felt like, wait, if they're
Speaker 1: gonna if somebody else's is offered me this over here,
Speaker 1: why y'all y'all, and I already made you blaques, I
Speaker 1: already made you. He was telling you was that was
Speaker 1: the equivalent of you playing for the Yeah, they have people.
Speaker 1: I come at you. I'm not going I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: He didn't say that. I'm saying that. I'm gonna taking
Speaker 1: me a little piece of gold bread. I'm throwing that
Speaker 1: out there, you know, so what you're laughing at me? Definitely?
Speaker 1: But wait, But just like the music business changed, as
Speaker 1: the game change in your eyes, since you play, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's all analytics, you know, it's all you know,
Speaker 1: analytics have taken over the game. I always think anytime
Speaker 1: you make a decision, you want to have as much
Speaker 1: information as you possibly can. Write right if you if
Speaker 1: you say no to that, then you're not doing your job.
Speaker 1: But I also think you can't measure everything, you know,
Speaker 1: Mr Tory, Joe Tory to always say you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't measure person's heartbeat. People have heart beats. You can't
Speaker 1: necessarily just take a player from Milwaukee and plug him
Speaker 1: into New York and think the same thing's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: There's more pressures, you know, you have to get to
Speaker 1: know people, and so analytics can't measure everything. And think
Speaker 1: the game has gotten very very analytical. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: moment as a Yankee? Two thousand nine? Every time? Seriously,
Speaker 1: every time you win, every time you win? What's it? Ready?
Speaker 1: That's a lot of favorite time. I ain't got a
Speaker 1: lot of you, man. You're a class act man. Thank you.
Speaker 1: They don't make many people like you. Um. I remember
Speaker 1: me talking to Mike Tyson and Mike Tyson saying, and
Speaker 1: I say, Mike Tyson, you're one of the great and
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson said, please don't call me a great And
Speaker 1: I said why in Tyson said, because most great people
Speaker 1: aren't good people. And it fucked me up. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you to your face man and man, you're a
Speaker 1: great person. That's appreciate that man, Thank you, you with you. Um,
Speaker 1: you're a very honorable, respectful person and you're very humble.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna be cocky for you. But you deserve
Speaker 1: your flowers. You deserve everything. UM. I really like, like,
Speaker 1: like I said, I watched that community three times. I
Speaker 1: had to go back because, like I said, did I
Speaker 1: say her name earlier? The one who makes a shot town?
Speaker 1: And then she says she cried, So I wanted to
Speaker 1: figure out where she cried. And I figured out why
Speaker 1: she cried, even if it was because she was a
Speaker 1: white Sox fan or she was whatever, it's because she
Speaker 1: got to witness one of the greatest players of all
Speaker 1: time be the greatest. Thank you humble, I know that.
Speaker 1: But UM, that's where we is. That's why we're so
Speaker 1: excited about this interview. UM, that's why we were so
Speaker 1: excited to be here. Every individual here we were seriously
Speaker 1: like coming like it was like and and and like
Speaker 1: like we were saying, like you like a mafia boss,
Speaker 1: like it was like that, and we want to give
Speaker 1: your flowers to your face because you truly indeed deserve it.
Speaker 1: You're truly indeed an icon, your legend, and you hold
Speaker 1: yourself as such. And we appreciative you are and what
Speaker 1: you're doing. And we're gonna wear the greatness all yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, we we we love it. That's what we think.
Speaker 1: And you know we're at the legendary famous car Bones,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite restaurants in the world. I know
Speaker 1: they got my credit card on five. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers because because you since still
Speaker 1: that you ain't had to do this. You could have
Speaker 1: did anything you do. You you've been wanting to do
Speaker 1: in the world, but you do you can't. You here
Speaker 1: with us, and this means a lot. We get body
Speaker 1: here to everyone, you know, people flying in over there
Speaker 1: like this guy's me crazy, Yes, really big, he flew.
Speaker 1: I made cool of me. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna have I said, Yo, that's the captain. You
Speaker 1: gotta days. I'm not cool him, he said. I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck, he said, I don't care if they
Speaker 1: if you want to him, and why I play like
Speaker 1: great of it just on the screen as it going
Speaker 1: and you can't even here him. He's the captain. You
Speaker 1: have to go with it. And I said I did,
Speaker 1: and listen, we are appreciate it. Yes we did. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are appreciated because this means the world to us. Man,
Speaker 1: You're you're really honorable. God, thank you really one of
Speaker 1: those the greats. That is a great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: It can't be six more years before you had me
Speaker 1: back now, yeah, no, no, no, any time you want
Speaker 1: to promote anything, whatever you want to promote, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Yeah, you't gonna hit this calling Brad, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wanna you know this is red Ryan going down
Speaker 1: like guy, ain't gonna right. Here's wicked. Are you a
Speaker 1: food I am? This is this is my favorite restaurant
Speaker 1: New York and obviously down here and I've seen he
Speaker 1: was as well. Yes, so we called bone Let's yea
Speaker 1: food group? Yeah yeah yeah. One thing about you that
Speaker 1: is remarkable. I'm looking at the old footage. You never
Speaker 1: really had security. Now why not? Because the talent protected you? No,
Speaker 1: I just died, man. It's just I think it draws
Speaker 1: attention to you. Man, that your man. I just I
Speaker 1: came here about myself. Nobody here with me. You know,
Speaker 1: I know I got you, I know I got you.
Speaker 1: I just never had it, but other baseball players have security. Yeah, maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: was there any point that so you never like felt
Speaker 1: threaten that No point, Like even in Boston, I say
Speaker 1: in my room a lot. I gotta know when you're
Speaker 1: moving around and when you should stay home. One of
Speaker 1: my close friends of my his name is city boy D.
Speaker 1: He's from Boston. And the minute I said said, yo,
Speaker 1: we got Derrek g on drink chance, he was like yo,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know, but I just grew up. Hey
Speaker 1: here he's like you now, I feel like he's the
Speaker 1: coolest guy in the world. But at one point it
Speaker 1: was being so much that it couldn't have been safe
Speaker 1: for you going. And we're talking about generational fans like
Speaker 1: you learned you grow up. You hate the Yankees man
Speaker 1: but for no reason. Yeah, you just hate him New York,
Speaker 1: you hate Boston. It's just I don't think that ever
Speaker 1: is gonna change. God, holy boy, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I got more questions, but come back, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that Yeah, before we go, Cap, who was going
Speaker 1: through your mom the shuffle shuffle out the home plate.
Speaker 1: You know you're talking about we're talking about being prepared.
Speaker 1: That was where I was supposed to be. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to throw at third base and not supposed to
Speaker 1: But I said it before. You know, I've joked about
Speaker 1: it before about John b family not being so fat.
Speaker 1: Jeremy unfortunately passed away recently. Um yeah, but but you know,
Speaker 1: you're taking into consideration everything that's going on. So I
Speaker 1: knew we had a chance to get them. So it's
Speaker 1: just one of those plays that he won't see it
Speaker 1: happen again. Everything aligned, you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think you don't know what I'm talking about. No, I
Speaker 1: definitely don't what it was interesting. Okay, Okay, that's the
Speaker 1: documentary too. Yeah it works, it works. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: in the documentary. So definitely in the document I ain't live.
Speaker 1: I love it. I would say the people, I'm like this,
Speaker 1: why did you get your life together? People? Listen? Listen
Speaker 1: because it's so much like even with the Non eleven part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I didn't realize how much my city got put
Speaker 1: put together and how much it was important for the
Speaker 1: Yankees after No. Eleven, you know what I mean, Like, um,
Speaker 1: that's what you got missing November from Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: didn't know at the time what you look at what
Speaker 1: we're playing a game. Man, game is a mean thing,
Speaker 1: but it did. Yeah, I did. You know if you're
Speaker 1: getting people something to cheer for for a few hours
Speaker 1: a day, man, when they really had nothing to cheer for,
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's that's that's what's crazy. Um. We
Speaker 1: were just talking before we walked in. I had a
Speaker 1: bunch of my Miami boys and I had a bunch
Speaker 1: of you know, New York boys. We were just all
Speaker 1: sitting there and it was like it was big for
Speaker 1: New York and I was like no. That moment was
Speaker 1: like I think they I think they say the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys is like America's team, but the Yankees is really
Speaker 1: America's team. Like I'm been the duce with off Germany.
Speaker 1: I've been to you know, Yugoslavia. I've been to uh
Speaker 1: Russia where people would have a hat on and I
Speaker 1: would ask him. I would ask him, you you're wearing
Speaker 1: that because of jay Z. They're like, no, I'm wearing
Speaker 1: this because I'm a Yankee fan. In Russia, we saw
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you from Germany. They're like they're looking
Speaker 1: at me, like that's racist. Like I can be from
Speaker 1: Germany and be a Yankee fan, and I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit. That's when you know when you when you
Speaker 1: travel abroad and you're like, wow, this is not because
Speaker 1: like someone said earlier, they was like it's a New
Speaker 1: York thing, and I was like, no, I witnessed this
Speaker 1: like I've been all over the world where they're wearing
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan yank excuse me, a Yankee hat and
Speaker 1: they're like, I'm a Yankee fan. You're thinking like they
Speaker 1: got it through hip hop, but now so um it's
Speaker 1: a symbol. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely is. Man, it definitely is.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking all of that. Nobody offered me something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a man, I'm in m It looks like
Speaker 1: you didn't take that shot, sir. Come on for the Bronx,
Speaker 1: that Bronx, for the Bronx. Take your shot. Holy sort
Speaker 1: you got anything? Well? I mean yeah, definitely. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: want to say, d you know, I follow you, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as an athlete because I wasn't a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's Miami. Let's be clear. I went from New
Speaker 1: Jersey as such as yourself, you were going to impact
Speaker 1: when not townships. I want to say, I want to
Speaker 1: claim you as a Jersey person. But even though you
Speaker 1: went to Michigan. But for for me, I like what
Speaker 1: athletes do after their season, after their career, when they
Speaker 1: turned to the community and turned to foundations. It sounded
Speaker 1: really big. You mentioned it earlier, but I want you
Speaker 1: to emphasize on how you that became something important to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we started. Um. I was talking about Dave Winfield to
Speaker 1: my parents the one I made it, I want to
Speaker 1: start my own foundation. My dad was drugging alcohol use
Speaker 1: counselor so in Detroit in a hotel room in Detroit,
Speaker 1: having pizza, and I told my dad, look, I want
Speaker 1: to start my own foundation, and like anything throughout my life,
Speaker 1: they said, if you're serious about it, will support you.
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I'm serious about it and I
Speaker 1: want you to help me run it. So my dad
Speaker 1: quit his private practice. We started the foundation. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's based in West Michigan area where I grew up,
Speaker 1: New York area obviously where I used to work and
Speaker 1: down in Florida, and to promote healthy lifestyles academic excellence.
Speaker 1: We are. One of our signature programs is our leadership
Speaker 1: programs called Jeter's Leaders or Kids who are who are
Speaker 1: role models not only in their schools but in their community.
Speaker 1: And and and we promote social change. And we want
Speaker 1: our kids to realize that there voices are powerful at
Speaker 1: a young age and when they get older, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be very comfortable using those voices. We've given back north
Speaker 1: of thirty five million dollars is now in UM the
Speaker 1: twenties six year and UM couldn't be more proud of it.
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of support from the communities, UM,
Speaker 1: a lot of my partners, you know, throughout my career,
Speaker 1: every marketing deal I did, they had to give to
Speaker 1: my foundation. UM. And I think people talk about legacy.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to have a legacy for their career, but
Speaker 1: I think the most important legacy you can leave is
Speaker 1: what you do to impact other people's lives. And UM,
Speaker 1: It's always been important to me and my family and
Speaker 1: we're going to continue doing that. So thanks for asking.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Year, I got you got you got got,
Speaker 1: I got you know my notes and Mr leg just
Speaker 1: se text me what about his watch that the Daytona
Speaker 1: roles Go is a gift from my wife. Man let
Speaker 1: me see the yes yes stays on the rose Gold,
Speaker 1: black face, Yese, don't miss anything around here. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: text to me that Oh god, holy molylacka moles. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I actually had the ninety six the Joe, the
Speaker 1: Joe Torre era, and we spoke about that earlier. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not the same steroids era. That's different area.
Speaker 1: I'm question trusting Derek. I got tell you, my lifelong
Speaker 1: Yankee fan, I felt bad for for the hit Manny
Speaker 1: when he retired and you guys wanted the next season.
Speaker 1: Did you feel the way did you feel like, damn,
Speaker 1: we should have been here for this? Um? We learned
Speaker 1: a lot from Donnie. You know, Donnie played a longer,
Speaker 1: never went to the postseason except that our first our
Speaker 1: first year coming up, and he had the Microsoft most
Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know, I learned a lot from
Speaker 1: Donnie and how you carry yourself, you know, how you
Speaker 1: play the game, how you're professional and um, yeah, so
Speaker 1: you feel bad, you know, it just goes to show you.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to be in the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time to Yeah. Yeah, did you hire
Speaker 1: him or work with him? He was here, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: manager here in Miami. Um, when we got here, and
Speaker 1: you know, so my entire time here as the manager,
Speaker 1: and you went zero in five and you first major
Speaker 1: league game over five. Yeah, I thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: send me down after one game. I did my twenty
Speaker 1: year career. Every time I took the field, I thought
Speaker 1: I was playing to keep my job every time. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I knew every time we dropped to the short stop,
Speaker 1: I knew what they were doing and always felt as
Speaker 1: though I was trying to keep my job. So you should.
Speaker 1: You never get comfortable. She never get comfortable. The a
Speaker 1: raw thing had to like, I know he's spoken earlier,
Speaker 1: but he was a shortstop and then for the Yankees
Speaker 1: acquiring him, did he downgrade to take third base or
Speaker 1: that was a decision that y'all guys came up with.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a part of the decision making process, you know, um,
Speaker 1: But that was the agreement before he came, prior to
Speaker 1: him coming that he's gonna play third he'say, and you
Speaker 1: were cool with that. Keep it real, I'm not, but
Speaker 1: back then yeah, yeah, no, I mean no, I mean
Speaker 1: it's gonna help us win. Like, ultimately, I don't care
Speaker 1: what your feelings are about any particular person you play with.
Speaker 1: If you're there to win. I have no problems with you,
Speaker 1: none whatsoever. It helped us. Yeah, yeah, that you played
Speaker 1: with that didn't like personally, but you still of course
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Man, there's a lot of personalities. Man,
Speaker 1: there's there's egos. There's the only issue I had with
Speaker 1: people if I felt this though, the winning wasn't their
Speaker 1: number one priority. If that's not your number one priority,
Speaker 1: I have a problem with you. I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: have a problem. I don't have to do it publicly.
Speaker 1: I can do it privately. I can do it one
Speaker 1: on one. You know, one thing I've said it before.
Speaker 1: Athletes know when the cameras are all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is look for the red light. You know which cameras
Speaker 1: on you at all times. You play long enough, you
Speaker 1: know where they're coming from. So all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is look. And then you see a lot of times
Speaker 1: they'll go over. Athletes to go over and they'll start
Speaker 1: talking to a particular teammate. They know the camera's on them.
Speaker 1: I didn't give a damn about a camera. I can
Speaker 1: pull you aside and talk to you individually. You know,
Speaker 1: there's different ways. You didn't deal with personalities. You talk
Speaker 1: about leadership. You gotta get to know the people you're leading,
Speaker 1: you know, I said that, man, some people you yelling,
Speaker 1: scream at you get the best out of them. Are
Speaker 1: the guys you gotta give him a hug. Right, You
Speaker 1: can't yell at certain people in a big group ever
Speaker 1: get the best out of him, right, you know you
Speaker 1: gotta pull him aside. So I you know, just you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get to know people, man, you really
Speaker 1: do have to get to know people. Read something. You
Speaker 1: thought you thought you was in trouble with the boss
Speaker 1: when he made you the captain. Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: Every every off season I'd meet with the boss. Right.
Speaker 1: We lived in Tampa. He told me the same thing,
Speaker 1: I need to lead the team. And he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about you being at a
Speaker 1: birthday party till four o'clock in the morning. Right, I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but you have one birthday party
Speaker 1: a year, that's right. Nothing different. Because he had said
Speaker 1: that same thing to the media. So I lived in Tampa.
Speaker 1: I worked out the complex every offseason. I'm leaving a
Speaker 1: complex and in a particular reporter asked me, are you
Speaker 1: doing anything different this year? Absolutely? Not got here in November,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks after the season, working out getting
Speaker 1: ready for the season. They turned that into the headline
Speaker 1: was party on. So I refused to change my party
Speaker 1: in ways to please the boss. So I met with
Speaker 1: the Boss. We got into it, going back and forth.
Speaker 1: I'm telling, like I told you before, he would test
Speaker 1: his players. So yeah, I say, look, man, you started this,
Speaker 1: you gotta fix it. He's yelling at me. We're going
Speaker 1: back and forth. We didn't speak for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: I dislocated my shoulder. I was in Tampa and the
Speaker 1: I'm working out to rehab. That's when we filmed this
Speaker 1: visa commercial with me and the Boss going through a
Speaker 1: conga line in their love and then I went back
Speaker 1: to New York. Eight weeks later. It was Hideki Matt
Speaker 1: Suey's first year player, coming from Japan. He lived in
Speaker 1: my building. We had the next day off. I invite
Speaker 1: all my teammates over for dinner. We go out to
Speaker 1: a club of New York. Next day, I'm on the
Speaker 1: front page of the paper. It says it's four am
Speaker 1: and Derek's out in the picture. Now in the article
Speaker 1: doesn't mention any of the twelve teammates, but I was
Speaker 1: with It was just me get a phone call saying,
Speaker 1: the boss wants to speak to you. Damn, I'm in trouble.
Speaker 1: And that's when he named me the captain. So he's
Speaker 1: probably like, this guy just doesn't give a ship what
Speaker 1: I say. He's gonna do whatever he wants. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when he named me. But it worked out. I
Speaker 1: thought I was in trouble. Yeah, it worked the funk out.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, this has got so great ship any future
Speaker 1: plans to own another team? Ship, you got some money
Speaker 1: for me. It looked like you didn't enjoy you. You
Speaker 1: know what it felt like to me, Um, when you
Speaker 1: became the owner. It's like, you know, you ever see
Speaker 1: the people that's on the sidelines and they were like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah yo, and then they actually get to play
Speaker 1: in the game, and they felt like once you be
Speaker 1: tasted some ownership, I felt like you didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I'm outside of looking it. Look I enjoyed building a team.
Speaker 1: I did. I enjoyed building. I didn't enjoy losing. You know,
Speaker 1: I never played on a team that had a losing record.
Speaker 1: In twenty years. We never lost. I shouldn't say we
Speaker 1: never lost. We never had a losing record. Um so
Speaker 1: we lost quite a bit here in a few years.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have everyone on the same page, man,
Speaker 1: I guess it's the best way to put. Everyone's got
Speaker 1: to be on the same page. If not, it's just
Speaker 1: not gonna work. So no, I don't. I don't see myself.
Speaker 1: You didn't know you didn't like ownership. I didn't like
Speaker 1: how it ended up. Did you have some of the
Speaker 1: balls in you as owner? I in terms of expectations, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I gave the players their space, you know. I
Speaker 1: gave them that's your space, you know, because I knew
Speaker 1: as a player, you don't want to see members of
Speaker 1: the front office in the clubhouse. Get out of here.
Speaker 1: How do you say, get out of here? You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. Um so I gave him their space.
Speaker 1: So so you understood the beef that you had with
Speaker 1: George back? Did Did it make you understood that more
Speaker 1: if you're you came to owner. Yeah, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily say we had beef because we had the same
Speaker 1: mindset from right. So so I didn't have any issues
Speaker 1: with him, Like I said, my only issues during my
Speaker 1: career and still to this day. If people don't expect excellence, right,
Speaker 1: and you're not willing to do what it takes to
Speaker 1: be successful, right, I have a problem with you. Um
Speaker 1: if that's not the case, I really do taking a
Speaker 1: shot for that for no reason. Where is this the
Speaker 1: rock guy? Goddamn it? Oh you got Oh my god? Okay,
Speaker 1: we all here. Paula John sees a salad. You know,
Speaker 1: Jared Jared calls working at Carbone playing like, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're nobody gonna clap on your back when you had
Speaker 1: a home run, because that's the expect it's supposed to. Hello,
Speaker 1: is that bad or good thing? That's a good things?
Speaker 1: You don't want people to expect you to be to
Speaker 1: be a failure. It's crazy because we we just we
Speaker 1: just had Kevin hart Shack and now we got the
Speaker 1: captain and no one has called me and said, good job.
Speaker 1: Ain't coming off a win and we just wanted to
Speaker 1: be to awarding. By the way, you're talking to award winners.
Speaker 1: First I felt that I was like, damn, no one
Speaker 1: called me to congratulate me. But then I said, let
Speaker 1: me look at it the bright side. They expect that
Speaker 1: from me or right, you want to that that together together,
Speaker 1: that's where you keep Yeah. Yeah he was he was
Speaker 1: born no choice, Yeah, his parents failure. What shot? Did
Speaker 1: I know for that brief time where they said, um,
Speaker 1: go shop you deal shot shot? Did you did you?
Speaker 1: Did you think that? After that? I was told to
Speaker 1: you because I know you said prior to to them,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to negotiate with any other team. But
Speaker 1: after they said to you, well go go go shop ship.
Speaker 1: Was there any team that did reach out to you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't want to. I don't want
Speaker 1: to know loyal like you really didn't you? So you
Speaker 1: you told your agent because I'm sure with Milwokee, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I really don't. I don't know if anyone
Speaker 1: was interested. I really don't know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear about it. So they oh, I'm taking shot for
Speaker 1: you ave yo. That's the real cameras off. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: So a little bit. This is to you loyalty, realness
Speaker 1: and happiness. I see you happy, pick up, to your
Speaker 1: lovely wife, your children. Um, every time I see you
Speaker 1: out and about you with them, I'm usually with my
Speaker 1: wife too. She has something to do, but she wants
Speaker 1: to be here. Big dry Fair big Yankee fan. Her father.
Speaker 1: She didn't have no choice her father forster to being
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan. So um, so to you, my brother,
Speaker 1: thanks for having Thank you everyone take the picture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because not for real, you didn't have to do this.
Speaker 1: So coming down tonight it really it really boosting my morale.
Speaker 1: You're making me a better leader, You're making me the captain.
Speaker 1: Can you say? I'm the captain? All right? Everyone's a
Speaker 1: captain of their own ship. The oldest, my oldest, my
Speaker 1: five year old, told me the other day, so, Daddy,
Speaker 1: I'm the captain and that I don't talk to her
Speaker 1: about it. Someone who We went out to get coffee
Speaker 1: and like, and it's just me and her, so I
Speaker 1: I try to take each one of them by them
Speaker 1: so they love to be by themselves. So we're sitting
Speaker 1: outside having coffee and spand of like five minutes three
Speaker 1: people went by, what's up, cap with's up? Captain and
Speaker 1: captain And she's like, dadny, why are they calling you
Speaker 1: the captain. I tried to explain it to her, and
Speaker 1: then later in the day to daddy, I'm the captain, captain,
Speaker 1: and I see you right, it's right, drop me good
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