1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: and I heart radio and it's drinks motherfucking podcast. He's 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper. He's like greed is your boy 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: in O R. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer up 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: his DJ e f N. Together they drinking up with 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: And yet number one sorts for drunk drink is New year' z. 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: That's time for Drink Champs. Drink up mother, mother? Would 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: it good? Be hope? It would it s be? This 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: your boy in O R? What up is d j 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: e f N? And it's Drink Champs. Will make so nice? 12 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: This is a very very special episode. We're in a 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: very special place where not at Drink Champion because because 14 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: people were not a Drink Chams location, because we have 15 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: as special When I tell you some of the best 16 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: years of my life is when this man was on 17 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: the field playing and leading the leader of men, El Capitan. 18 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: I watched his documentary three times. The first two times 19 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I watched it, I hit a friend of mine and 20 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: she said she cried, So I said, damn, I need 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: to see where she had to cry, and I realized 22 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't from New York. So a lot of people 23 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: who wasn't from New York and played against US State 24 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't cry. The man let us he is. He is 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: a class act AH, five time champion. His accolations keep 26 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: going and going and going. So we right now on 27 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the legendary car bones. By the way, people can't even 28 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: get a reservation and we're help filming is crazy. Let's 29 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: make some noise for the one when I was watched 30 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the documentary, I'll tell you what was the craziest part 31 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: of the documentary to me. For me was when you 32 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: got drafted right and then your first couple of years 33 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: in the mining least, what was that? What are those Yeah, 34 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: you weren't doing good, terrible right, So what made them 35 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: keep you? They didn't have a choice. They gave me 36 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: a big signing bonus. You get drafted high with a 37 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: signing bus, they're gonna give you an opportunity to make 38 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: some mistakes. First of all, before we start, thanks for 39 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: having me, because I keep running into around town and 40 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for six years to get invited on this. Finally, 41 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: now after after months and months and begging finally allowed them. 42 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: But back to that, yeah, back to yeah easy, because 43 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: I had didn't hear these years. I had only heard 44 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: of these years um when I watched the documentary. But 45 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: when they was reflecting on it, I was like, this 46 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: is so amazing the story because how it was the 47 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: number one in high school and then you went there 48 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: and then it was like the first couple of years 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: it wasn't we're working out for you? I think, Yeah. 50 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: First of all, I think one thing you have to 51 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: realize is anyone that's had success in any profession has 52 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: failed everyone. You don't hear about it, like you two 53 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: have failed. You just show up and now you got 54 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: drink chances. You got bumps along the way, bumps in 55 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: the road. Part of the how do you stop it 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: from being a roadblock, you know what I mean. So 57 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming from Calamusoo, Michigan. No disrespect to Calumus. It 58 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: was just a small town, you know, not known. I 59 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: guess for professional baseball players. Now you go from playing 60 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: in Kalamazudi, now you're playing against the best players in 61 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the world. And I was completely overmatched, completely overmatched. And 62 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: but I mean that's when you you gotta bounce back. Man, 63 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: you gotta learn from your failures and and you got 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: to try to look at the bright side and and um. 65 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks for starting this off by have me 66 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: go down memory lane when I was bad. I appreciate 67 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: that stories. It's the fruition that that your parents even had, 68 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: Like I've seen your baby pictures of you with a 69 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Yankee you more like it was almost spooky to see 70 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: that because it was like, this guy is exactly who 71 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: he's made to be looking back. Yeah, but I mean, 72 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: one one thing is is I give my parents a 73 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of credit because you need the people closest to 74 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: you reinforcing your dreams, right, Because anytime you have a 75 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: far fetched dream in other people's minds, everyone's telling you 76 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: you're never going to achieve. It's just what you're gonna hear. 77 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: You can't you can't achieve. It's like in a documentary. 78 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Who then are you to tell me that I can't 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: achieve my dream? You know, and my parents, who are 80 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: obviously closest to me, I said I could do it 81 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: as well. So you need to support and they supported 82 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: me from day one. The only thing ever wanted to 83 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: be and always short, stop, always short. My dad was 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: you know I played shortstop. I was trying to be 85 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: you and I didn't heard about you. About birthday too, 86 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't Thanks for the invites to the party. I 87 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: mean I got three girls five and under. Yes, so 88 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: if you have a birthday lunch, I'll get to the birthday. 89 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so be bouncing around a little bit. 90 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: But um, best year in my life. I'm platinum Yankees 91 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: World Series? Can you describe that year? It was my hat? 92 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: What's my hat? Man? You know, you have a good 93 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: year in baseball. First of all, it's a hundred and 94 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: sixty two games. You have a good year, you win 95 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: a hundred games, and people say, what did you go 96 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: that year? We were a hundred and fifty Wow. Yeah, 97 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: counting the postseason where SEVENTI five games over five hundred. 98 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: So um, I mean, it's just one of those years 99 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: where I looky. It's it's tough to compare rors, you know, 100 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: whether it's in music or whether it's in sports. But 101 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: I would put that team up there against any team 102 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: in the history of that They said the game when 103 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: we googled, they named that the best Yankee team ever. Good. Yeah, 104 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know that great, Okay, Like I said around 105 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I'm bringing my brother in a 106 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: little while. But all of my friends I went bord 107 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: to Derek g New Jersey. They're laughing at me already. 108 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I went and what I For some reason, maybe I've 109 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: been in Florida too long. I didn't know that if 110 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: I had your name on the back of it, it's 111 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: not official. They would literally not let me come in 112 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: here with this jersey because let's hear from you. So 113 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: if to be official, you can't have your name, one name, no. 114 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Yankee is one of the few teams that don't have 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: their names New Jersey. You know. It's actually I give 116 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: you a little history. Yankees is the first team to 117 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: have numbers on their uniforms, and it used to go 118 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: by the order in the lineup, which is why Ruth 119 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: was three, Garrett was four. So we're the first team 120 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: to have numbers on the units. And the reason why 121 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: you don't have it's all about the team. It's not 122 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: about you know, It's all about the team ultimately. That's 123 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: what matters. I mean, it's it's winning in anything in life, 124 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: it's winning. I mean, I have problems. He's probably saw 125 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: the documentary. I mean to have competition problems. You can 126 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: say you want to race down the street, I'm gonna 127 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: try to beat you racing down the street. And if 128 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't beat you, we're gonna go do it again. 129 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's just so ultimately that's 130 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: what you play for us to win. Personal accolades are great, 131 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: they come along with it, but you know, you're don't 132 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: have a team success. Yeah, that that's crazy because they 133 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: were my friends. Was exactly right. They and I'm sitting 134 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: back and I'm like, why did that didn't know that? Like, 135 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and they all like, you're a bozo. You shouldn't know that. 136 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: And and I literally they would not let me let 137 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: you sign that. I said, I want to. Uh wow, 138 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: that's so. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. I got 139 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: a good team. I'm glad. Thank you diego um dude 140 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: said young. Really they had they had an intervention with me, 141 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Like I felt like I was on drops. It's necessary. 142 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Interventions are necessary? Is there anything like the Yankees fans? 143 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Because what did the Yankees? What did they just win? 144 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Just now? Yeah? Is is that the best fans in 145 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the world by far? It's not even close. You know. 146 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: The thing with the Yankee fans. Are they pay attention 147 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: every single day? You mentioned we had a rough patch 148 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. First of all, we 149 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: want a division in April it was over. We just 150 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: like five months that, you know, we already won and 151 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: we had a rough patch at the end, and you're 152 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: walking down the streets and you know, fans yelling you 153 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: better turn it around. You guys are gonna blow it. 154 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, we have games right now, but they 155 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: watch every single day. They expect excellence. Uh, they do 156 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: not take excuses, right. I mean, you gotta stand in 157 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: front of your locker and you have to answer questions 158 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: where things don't go well. And you know, it's like 159 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: I always just tell my teammates if you want to 160 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: escape the locker room, do it. When you have a 161 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: good game, you know, you find a lot. I find 162 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: out a lot about people when how they handle adversity. 163 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: New Yorkers want to see First of all, I don't 164 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: know if you necessarily say they want to see you fail, 165 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: but they do. They want to see how you're gonna 166 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: bounce back to Yes, yes, yes, so Yankee fans are 167 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 1: the best. Man. Do we still hate Boston fans, I 168 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a hatred. Um, I gotta be careful, man, 169 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: I still walk around. You know, it's he's outside. I've 170 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: said it before. After they won in two thousand four, 171 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: they softened a little bit. My parents didn't even go 172 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: back to Fenway Park because they were brutal. And I'm 173 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: sure Red Sox players will tell you the same thing. 174 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: New York fans are brutal. But they softened a little bit. 175 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: And um so now I have no issues with Boston fans. 176 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: Plus we won more than they did. So would you 177 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: like some opus one? One? No, I'm gonna let you 178 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: handle that. You just want to make sure you don't 179 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: do that one that's daily on. Thanks, look'd be nervous. Okay, Thanks? 180 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: And you got you got? You got straight vodka, straight straighter, hardy. 181 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Let me put it out there. It's right now. I 182 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: don't want to it's noon. You haven't eaten a thing? Yes, 183 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: we haven't, so I'm not responsible for anything. I say. Point, 184 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to edit a lot. Greatness wins. Yes, 185 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: I got I got hold on, I got some boxes 186 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: for you. I got some that brought now so so 187 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: just to give you a little background. Um, I've been 188 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: wearing athletic apparel obviously, and I've had great, great relationships 189 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: and UM, but I think anytime, because you were signed 190 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: to Jordan one more I was, and I've had great 191 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: experiences with all the brands that I've been involved with. 192 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't think any time that you're passionate about something, 193 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. You think of ways you would 194 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: do things differently, maybe even ways you do things better 195 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: in your opinion. So we think we are. 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We 206 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: have a women's line coming out next year, the great 207 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Incomparable Misty Copeland Empleness UM lead that design women's line, 208 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about it. I hope everyone else is 209 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: excited about it as well. Is this you comer direct 210 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: to consumer? Yeah? So going greatness wins dot com UM, 211 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: and you know we're starting off slowly. Starting off slowly, 212 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: you learn from your customers, your fan base, what they 213 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: want to see more of, what they like, what they 214 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: don't like. We're passionate about it, man, because you know, 215 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: everyone has tools to success. In my tools and my 216 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: career outside of a baseball on the back, which don't 217 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: really change too much, is the apparel that you use. 218 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: So UM wanted to give you guys something me that 219 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: it's kind of like our Patreon. We're gonna direct to 220 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: consumer to patre dot com. So it's like I'm born 221 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: and raised New Yorker and I live in Miami now 222 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: for the past fifteen years or so. You're you're you're 223 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: in New Yorker. That's like, um that now living lives 224 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: in Miami. Well, how was the mall Is experience? How 225 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: how was that because you are an owner? You went 226 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: from being a player to owner. I think he was 227 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: like the only one like in baseball history. And then 228 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and they also saying a black owner. Was it pressure? 229 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: How was it? Because Miami fans are a little different. Well, 230 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I keep example, I first came to a Heat game 231 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, y'all, no, no, I'm sorry. I've never 232 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: seen this before in my life. And Lebron wasn't. They like, 233 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Lebron didn't win. The whole stadium went out, like half 234 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: of the stadium left. I was like, New York fairs 235 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: will never do that. The Nicks could be getting pounded 236 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: and we'll still be there with our popcorn. So Miami 237 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: fans are different. How was that experience? Well, let me 238 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: start with you know, I've lived in I lived in 239 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Tampa on the other side of Florida twenty some years. 240 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: We had our player development and spring training facility there, 241 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: so I always lived in Tampa so I could work 242 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: out the entire offseason. And I love Florida, live here 243 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: for a long time. And you know, major league teams, 244 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: I should say, sports franchises don't trade that office. It's 245 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: not like you can just wake up one day and say, hey, 246 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I want to get together by a team. 247 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So I wanted to to acquire a team that was 248 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: close to home. Um and it just so happened that 249 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Miami came up, and so I put together an ownership 250 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: group and and we purchased the team. And one thing 251 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: about about Miami fans, when you're comparing Miami and New York, right, 252 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: New York is generational fans. You know, you are born 253 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a Yankee fans. Your grand your your parents were your grandparents, 254 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: your great grandparents. You basically have no choice, and you 255 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: have no And then you know you come to Miami, 256 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: especially you know the baseball team, it's a new franchise 257 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: with a checkered pass. They have the history of they've 258 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: won a couple of times. They get rid of everyone, 259 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: and we came in, we made changes. I look at 260 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: it as a challenge. You know, everything in life is challenging. 261 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Anything that means something to you a challenging. So never 262 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: shied away from it. And and and we we I 263 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: think as a sports fan, and it's understandable. You look 264 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: at wins and losses. That's how you judge an organization. 265 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I get it. But there's a lot more that goes 266 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: along with it. And you have to build a great 267 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: front office. You have to build a great minor league system. Unfortunately, 268 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: it takes time, It takes patience, I don't have any patience, right, 269 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to kids now, so I'm trying to 270 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: work on my patients. But it takes some patience. And 271 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and we accomplished quite a bit, I think in my 272 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: time with the organization and and um, you know, whether 273 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: it went to the postseason for the first time in 274 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: seventeen years. I mean, look, no matter how you look 275 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: at ultimately your goals to win a championship, but there's 276 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: steps along the way, you know, because you know, during 277 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: my career, I was known for seeing if you didn't 278 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: win a World Series, seasons of failure, it is a failure. 279 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: Plus I won my first year, you know what I mean. 280 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: So there's nowhere you know, I'm not I'm not saying 281 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: it for I'm just saying, you know, that's that's the 282 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: goal we set, right, That's that's the president we said 283 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: we won. So next year what gett into the World 284 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Series doesn't mean anything. So I'm down here in Miami. 285 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: There's steps along the way. So we made we took 286 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: some steps in the right direction. I'm proud of the 287 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: front office that we built, Um, the diverse front office 288 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: that we built. And unfortunately, like I said, when I left. 289 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, the direction of the team changed, and um, 290 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be me if I was still there because 291 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: they blamed you with what God blame me for everything, 292 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: which is fine, which is fine talking about. But what's 293 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: the guy that they traded to New York because they 294 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: blamed you for that? You you remember? Yeah, But I mean, look, 295 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: this is the way I look at it, right, Um, 296 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: they look Miami hats great players, we took over, but 297 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they didn't win for whatever reason, So 298 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: there needs to be changed, right, I mean I worked 299 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: for George Steinbrenner. You didn't do your job, you were gone. 300 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just black and white. When are you 301 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: you make changes? So yeah, we made changes. I know 302 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of unpopular decisions that that were made. 303 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm fine. What do you think it's 304 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: hard of being a player or being an owner? Uh? Man? 305 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: You know what, when you play, you have a chance 306 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: to affect the outcome of a game. Wow, when you're 307 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: up there watching, you can't control it. I mean you can't. 308 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: You know, you see things from up in a suite, 309 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: you see it as if you were playing. But it's 310 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: not like you can go down there and say something. 311 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: You know, so it's it's it's a challenging I's going 312 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: to accent. Have you ever, like as the owner was like, man, 313 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: let me go suit up. No no no no no 314 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, let's get one 315 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: let's get one thing straight. I'm done. I would not. 316 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: I would embarrass myself. I understand how difficult it is 317 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: to play the game. I understand people are going to fail, 318 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about it earlier. I actually like to 319 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: see when players fail because I watched what you do 320 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: when you're walking off the field. I watch what you 321 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: do when you're in the clubhouse. I watched what you 322 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: do in postgame interviews. I see it tells me a 323 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: lot more about an individual when they struggle, like like 324 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: like like you know, um, in sportsmanship, they shake hands 325 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: after win all loss. So if a person doesn't take 326 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: a hand, you feel like a good sportsmanship. Have you ever? 327 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't shaking hands with people and we lost. You 328 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, I didn't do that. There's 329 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: funny story. When I was younger, I was playing little 330 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: league and my dad coached me for just a couple 331 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: of years. I was trying to beg him for years 332 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: and coach me. And one time we lost the game 333 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: and I refused to shake literally he shake hands. I 334 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: refused to shake hands with the other team. So you know, 335 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: he pulled me aside and say, man, you need to 336 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: start playing an end of visuals for it, said because 337 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: you know it taught me a lesson, right. I mean, 338 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to say you lose gracefully because you 339 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: never accepted. But I think it's it's you understand that 340 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: you know you can't walk around with your head up 341 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: high when things are going good and then all of 342 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: a sudden you disappear when things don't go your way. 343 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: So I didn't, Man, I wasn't shaking hands after we lost, 344 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: But um I did it. I lost respectfully. Yeah, I understand, 345 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: I understand. Understand. Holy, I got notes and all type 346 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: of things. I'm getting into it. Let's go Holy. But 347 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: how many years were you at the Marlan uh four 348 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: and a half, four and a half, four and a half, 349 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: And did you do you think that you were able 350 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: to accomplish some of the things you were trying to 351 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: create that process to get the team where they needed 352 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: to be. And it all starts with people. You gotta 353 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: have the right people in place, and it's it's um 354 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, I said it in the documentary. Remember when 355 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Um Theopstein had a lot of success in Boston, then 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: he went to Chicago. And when he got to Chicago 357 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: and he told the fan base, he's gonna take us 358 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: five years. Right. I never put a time frame on 359 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: it because I think if you tell someone it's gonna 360 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: take us a few years, you're making it okay for 361 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: them to fail. I expect you when you compete, you're 362 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: expected to win, right. Um. So I think we we 363 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: made a lot of progress. Um not enough. Um So 364 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: I I I'm more happy, and I'm more proud of 365 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: the people that we put in place. I mean, and 366 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: and up until when I left, right, and you were 367 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be with Diddy and j Lo the night 368 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: of the n Y Club shooting, I wouldn't well, I wouldn't. Yeah, 369 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily say supposed to be, Um, you know 370 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: my boy and Mike. Yeah, So we were out right 371 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: after um, right after a game. We're eating and then um, 372 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, Puff had mentioned to Mike, why don't you 373 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: guys I'm buying And I was like, they say it 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: all the time, Ma I'm gona stay out of trouble tonight, 375 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: say it all the time. So it was just that, Yeah, 376 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: it was avoided a conflict. It was crazy case. I'm 377 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: sitting there and me and Puff. Uh last time I 378 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: seen you was here, correct, And I think me and 379 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: Puff is there and running him down. The documentary and 380 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: there's such so much of events. It's like you are, 381 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: like I keep forgetting you're not from New York City, 382 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: like born and raised, because my whole life in New 383 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: York City, I've known to beat this. Yeah, I've said 384 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: this before. You know what's what it's. I think it's 385 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: called The Truman Show. Jim Carrey blew up on television. 386 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: That was me because I came to New York I 387 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: was twenty years old. We talked about it before. Yankee 388 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: fans watch every single game, so they watched me grow up, 389 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: and I watched Yankee fans grow up too, you know. 390 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: So we grew up together. And the great thing about 391 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: baseball's every single day. I'll tell you. I'll tell you 392 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: something that's that was weird for me as a as 393 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: a Yankee fan was I didn't think that the Yankees 394 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: should have ever took a Rod. I felt like that 395 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: was both the opposition. You were solidified. I didn't know 396 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: why they ever like brung him on. But one thing 397 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: with New York Man and Yankees, and especially Mr Steinbrenner, 398 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: you can play. He wants you. He wants to win. Man. 399 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I told the story before you know. Mr Steinbrenner, the 400 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: late George Steinbrenners a big football guy with a great 401 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: relationship because he was an Ohio State guy. I grew 402 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: up in Michigan, so we used to butt heads all 403 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: the time on Michigan Ohio State football. And I say 404 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: he's an old football guy because he had a real 405 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: He had a real tough time realized that the one 406 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: who didn't want to pay you when you were we 407 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: get to that. So so in a hundred and sixty 408 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: two games, he had a tough time understanding that you 409 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: may actually lose a game. Now, I I'm of the 410 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: mindset every time you take the field, you have an 411 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: opportunity to win a game. You should play and expect 412 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: to win, right, But I also understood you can't win everything. 413 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: He didn't understand that, you know, so Um, he expected 414 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: everyone to be accountable. UM. And if there was a 415 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: player that he felt as though would help us win, 416 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: and he would go get him and you got to 417 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: tip your cap to him because, um, in my mind 418 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: he is one of the greatest owners in all sports. 419 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: But a tough guy. Oh yeah, he was a tough guy. 420 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: He used to challenge you, his best players, he would challenge, 421 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: He would call you out publicly. He would. Yeah, he 422 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: would try to embarrass you, just to see how you 423 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: were going to respond. Because it takes a certain type 424 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: of individual a deal with everything that comes with New York, 425 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: and um, he would find out. All right, we gotta 426 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: get his flowers. Man. That's why listen our show. It's 427 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: about giving them people their flowers while they alive, tell 428 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: them how great they is today face. We want you 429 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: to know you are greatness. You've made us proud. We 430 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: we we we We're gonna give you your flowers to 431 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: your face than tell you how greatness is said, come on, 432 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: Mr Leave, he's never on point with us. Yes, I 433 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: appreciate that, man. That's a little that's a little details 434 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: in the third team flowers, and it's for a certain reason. 435 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Come on, Paul, Oh my goodness, I know you know 436 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: when you went to the Yankees and you asked me 437 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: him with thirteen because of your father. He played and 438 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: he was number thirteen. We just wanted to respect the 439 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: fact that we understood that detail. What's so important to you, 440 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: So we made those flowers give their team since you 441 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: didn't get it. He really did some research. Yeah, you 442 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: did some research. I like it. I like it. Thank you. 443 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: So how did you want up getting the number two? 444 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: Then just gave it to me? Man? I think it 445 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: was the smallest jersey, I really do you know there 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: was a guy by the name of Mike Diego that 447 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: were number two before me. Mike Diego is probably what 448 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: five six, five seven, and um, you know when I 449 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: played basketball in high school, and you know in basketball, 450 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: they always make you a little taller, a little heavier, right, 451 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: So I was listed as six three one five when 452 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: I was drafted, and the first thing they do in 453 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: the Yankee sigmon is they measured me and put me 454 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: on a scale. I was six to one dress dressed. 455 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: So when I finally got to New York, man, I 456 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: probably weighed one. So I just think number two was 457 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: There's all these rumors of why they gave me number two. 458 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I just think it was the smallest jersey They had 459 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: Man and something else that was very interesting. It was Google. 460 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Then this only Google is dangerous. But it's only like 461 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: the history of like ten captains on the Yanking like 462 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: if that like, so I always thought that they was. 463 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know this was elite when they called you 464 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the captain, did you know? Did you know that I did? 465 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: It's not a title that's thrown around lightly in the 466 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: Yankee organization. Um, I believe I was eleventh one. I mean, 467 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: there's some historical accounts that there were a couple more. 468 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: If I think they said, don't quote me on it, 469 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: so you can erase it if I'm wrong. But I 470 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: think they said Babe Ruth was a captain for a day. 471 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I think I kind of got into something and got 472 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: in trouble different times, different times back then. So yeah, 473 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: it's not a title is thrown around lightly. So I 474 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: always I always took that responsibility and and you know 475 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: I I tried to represent the organization in the best light. 476 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: I could. You believe in the Curse of Babe Roof, 477 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I did. I mean they obviously broke 478 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: the curse. But yeah, there's some just some strange stuff 479 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: that happened. Man, every time we played Boston. It's like 480 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Boston just couldn't figure out. You waited for him to 481 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: screw it up. Yeah, he waited for him to screw 482 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: it up. So it was one time he was winning, 483 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: he was like, don't worry. Else You're like, You're like, 484 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: don't worry. Yeah. But yeah, they they ended the curse 485 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah. Look, Joyce starburn in My next, 486 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: My next. So didn't he get fired at one point 487 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: or didn't he let him go as an owner and 488 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: no comment? Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know. You know, 489 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: he had you know, he had some Yeah, there were 490 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: some issues that he had My favorite player's Dame of Winfield. Yeah, 491 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: so there was some issues he had with Dave. So 492 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: he was suspended. He was suspending for some time. Yeah, 493 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: And I actually a matter of fact, I think that's 494 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: probably one of the reasons why the group of young 495 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: players that I came up with were able to stay 496 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: with the organization because the boss was known he's gonna 497 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: go get free agents, right, he didn't get and patience 498 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: for young players, and um, you know, Bernie Williams was 499 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the first one that really got an opportunity and had 500 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: some success. So yeah, the boss was suspended for a while. 501 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Bernie Wins that was your best friend, right, Bernie came 502 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: was a little a little before us. Yeah, okay. You 503 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: said in the documentary that if there was phones back then, 504 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: like I phones, Yeah, like I phones, any kind of 505 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: recording any kind of recording device, because you know New 506 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: York man, I mean, we used to go out um 507 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: in New York and we'll be out four o'clock in 508 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: the morning. You leave a place and there's a line 509 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: to get in. You didn't have to worry about anything 510 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: because there was There was page six, but there were 511 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: no photos. If it's just words, it's a rumor. Yeah, 512 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: it really wasn't me. You know, you don't have a picture. 513 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't me. So it's now man, it's it's I 514 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: feel bad for for you know, young athletes and entertainers 515 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: that you know now everyone's a member of the media 516 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: because they have a phone. No matter what you do, 517 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: they have a phone. You find that annoying. Do people 518 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: just put their phone on you when you you're out 519 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: and about. Sometimes people have been respectful for the most part, 520 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: but you know what, I what I tell people, especially 521 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: young players, you have to assume everything you do is 522 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: public knowledge. Unless you're in your own house, everything you 523 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: to his public knowledge. And that's a rough way to 524 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: live life, man, it really is. And it just keeps 525 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: getting I don't want to say worse, but it's just 526 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: everything you do, man, you just never know. Like the 527 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: other day, I was walking to someone and I'm wanting 528 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: to meet one of my friends and he has one 529 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: of his people with me, and that person didn't even 530 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: say hi to me, just automatically just pulled out the 531 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: phone and just started filming. And I was like, in 532 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: what world is this cool? Like it's like my friend 533 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: saying nothing, nothing, nothing. The dude just start feelming me. 534 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't think I deserve see 535 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm coming to see my friend and he he looked 536 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: at me like no, and I looked like this is 537 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: my personal time. And it's like this error is like 538 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: really like it's it's like every day yours out and 539 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: film them, which is saying, pull your phone out and 540 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: start filming them. Make someone comfortable, yeah it, get it out, 541 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: you start taking them right, yeah, do it back to back. 542 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: You think that I was just like a good guy, 543 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: like and they're saying nothing wrong with it, Like I mean, 544 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, the thing is is what's what's what I 545 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: find to be disappointing. I don't want to be like 546 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: a back in the day guy. Someone always says you're 547 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: back in the day guy, because every time I go 548 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: back in the day, but people don't have experiences anymore 549 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: because they're so focused on capturing it and sharing it 550 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: with other people. So you go to a concert, you 551 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: go to a sporting event, and this is this is 552 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Well, enjoy the experience, you know, because 553 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: those are things you can't get back, the feeling you have, 554 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: and the experience is something that you could remember. Now. 555 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: My last season I played, I kept a journal every day. 556 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: I wrote down how I felt. Now I didn't necessarily 557 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: have to be about a game, but just how I 558 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: fell on that particular day. And I wish I would 559 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: have done that my entire career because there's so many 560 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: things you forget about, experiences you forget about. That's what 561 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: the documentary was fun Fail because I'm listening to everyone 562 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: else share their experiences. You know, but those are the 563 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: things you have. You talked about New York back in 564 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: the day, going out having fun, you know, you run 565 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: into someone you can twenty years ago, but you remember 566 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: how you felt when you were with him at the time. 567 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's that's something that that's something 568 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: that I think is missing nowadays. You gotta enjoy experiences. 569 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, It's crazy. Uhuh with this generation has 570 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: led to like it's like no privacy at all. And 571 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: I just thought, and it has to make you appreciate 572 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: the era that you played in. It does Yeah, yeah, 573 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean I value privacy, you know, I'm I'm I 574 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: think take it to another level, you know what I mean. 575 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: That's why when we did the documentary, and initially I said, no, 576 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: absolutely not, I'm just not gonna do it. I wanted 577 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: to film the potential Hall of Fame call that I 578 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: would get and then film the ceremony so I could 579 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: share it with my my girls. I had three now, 580 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: but I had two at the time. And then it 581 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: turned into why don't we do a larger project around 582 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: your entire career? And I was like, and I ain't 583 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: doing it because I've said this before. Once you let 584 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: the toothpaste out of the tube, you can't put it 585 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: back in. Once you start sharing it, man, it's it's 586 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: it's you can't get it back. And I said, you 587 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: know what, man, it's it's it's my career, it's what happened. Um, 588 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna do it at some point. I'm going to 589 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: do it. So I'm happy that I did. So let's 590 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: let's like I said, we're bouncing amround a little bit, 591 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: but let's go. When a Road had made those comments 592 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the comments when he said, uh 593 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: not Kendall, Oh yeah, he's from Kendall, is from Kendall. 594 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: These guys from day be careful, they might be these 595 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: boys over there. We don't know. We gotta don't worry 596 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: about you. Good. But um, I believe he said that, 597 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Um that that that Derek's team won, like and that 598 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: how did you feel when he when he when he 599 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: said that correct, I mean, you know what we want. Um, 600 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, my my thing is sorry. But look, I mean, 601 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: everyone made such a big deal and I understand it 602 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: such a big deal out of our relationship because of 603 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: things that were said in the media. This is twenty 604 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: years ago, pretty much, you know. And um, that's why 605 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: in the documentary, I wanted the people. I wanted people 606 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: to know how I felt at the time. Now a 607 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: lot of things in life have happened since then that 608 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: it's over, it's beyond. I don't I don't feel that 609 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: way anymore. But at the time how I felt was 610 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm extremely loyal. I wouldn't do it to a friend. 611 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: And just there's just no yeah, there's just I just moving. Man. 612 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: It's just I've said it's maybe it's a character flaw 613 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: for me, but I just turn it off like that 614 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: and I won't ever think about it again. It's just 615 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: you move on. But I think as I've gotten older, 616 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: things happen in life, life experiences. I have a family, now, 617 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: you lose close friends. I lost a very close friend 618 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: of mine, and I don't want to feel a certain 619 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: way when I see someone. Man, So if if I 620 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: have something to say, I'll say it and we move on. Right, 621 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: You have acquaintances, you have friends, right, And I think, um, 622 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: you only have so many real true friends. And I 623 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: value relationships. I value my friends. I'm extremely loyal and 624 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I'll continue to be that way. And was was it was? 625 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: It was it coming from like a sidebar, like were 626 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: you shocked or were you liked? Because because you know, 627 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: being famous is a fucking great and terrible thing, right, 628 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: because like the person could be one way and then 629 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: then they've didn't afforded the camera be a totally different way. 630 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Was did you feel like snakes? Did you feel like 631 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: betrayed because of his comments? Yeah, there were some feeling. Yeah, 632 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: of course, you know, of course you see and you're like, well, 633 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: what is this? You know, first it's coming out of 634 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: left field. You know, I'm like, where is this coming from? 635 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: But once again, we were twenty something years old back 636 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: THEMN man like, now it's I don't care. I mean, 637 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I have a good relationship. Are walking here right now? 638 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: What's going on? I just did his show in New 639 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: York recently. You know, we've gotten together before the documentary 640 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: came out. You know, I wanted to reach out and say, hey, look, 641 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: you know he was a part of the document I 642 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: wanted him to be a part. I wanted him to 643 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: tell his side. You know, any friction I had with 644 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: any particular person in my career, I wanted them to 645 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: tell their side. I didn't want to do a puff piece, 646 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I didn't want everyone just saying great 647 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: things about me and a puff piece that means he 648 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean daddy, I mean if you had a problem 649 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: with me, say it. I had some problems with people too. 650 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I have no problem saying it. But um yeah, I 651 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: have no issues whatsoever. That that's you know, this is 652 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm so happy man. So like, if you're ready to 653 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: do um yeah, yeah, grabbed a chair. I want to 654 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: bring my brother do sing. Yeah. You asked me if 655 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: I wanted some of that wine. Man, you're going through it? Heysten, 656 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: your has Hold up a second. I got something to say. 657 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Addiction is a treatable disease, but finding the right treatment 658 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: can be overwhelming and confusing. Shatter Proof, a national nonprofit, 659 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: is here to help without judgment. 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And by the way, I'm just being honest 670 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: with you. You are the most humblest legend like ever, 671 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: like you always respectful, you always kind of say the 672 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: right thing. Are you a maniac? Like yeah, well we 673 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: gotta define maniac, you know, because I got a friend 674 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: named s p K and everyone when we see him, 675 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: and he's always the same, but it be like something 676 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: about himself. We spread a room or yeah, we spread 677 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: a room. He's a night killer. People like, let let's clarify. 678 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm not Jeffrey Domond. I'm not dumb now the Bronx. 679 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring um I'm do saying 680 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people don't know Yankee Stadium. 681 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: It's smack dead in the middle of the hood. This 682 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: is my brother from one five seven in your card, 683 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: and I remember going to see them at times and 684 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: the hood will be old southern parking spots and then 685 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: and me, I'm from Queens, so I actually lived. I 686 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: lived about it ten minutes away from UM Well, and 687 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: I would know the difference going like going to Shade Stadium. 688 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: It's not in the hood. Uh, City Field is not 689 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: in the hood. But there's no way you could get 690 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: this Yankee Stadium without avoiding the hood. How was that 691 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: when you just you even walk into the locker room. 692 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: Got know, New York has embraced you. But how was 693 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: that for your your teammates? Like getting that real New 694 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: York and this is the bronze. Yeah, I mean well, 695 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: first of all, it was intimidating for opposing players, you know, 696 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: especially you're taking to the old stadium, the old stadium. 697 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: Market players did not want to come to Yankee Stadium. 698 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: Did not want to come and you know and part 699 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: of the reason, and you know, you have a new 700 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: stadium now. The new stadiums unbelievable, especially for the amenities 701 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: for the players and the fans. But a lot of 702 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: times it looked like it's empty because there's all these 703 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: underground suits, restaurants and you know, you can watch games 704 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: in the hallways old Yankee Stadium. If you wanted to 705 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: watch the game, you had to be sitting in your seat. 706 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: And a I used to watch the game from the roof. 707 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: Ye yes, yes, yes, you can't even get you can 708 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: get into the stadium when you can watch it after 709 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: like the after it wasn't fact they used to come 710 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: around and give out tickets, yo, golfellas, you know, to 711 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: make it fluffing up. When we was young, we didn't 712 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: have nothing. We should go to the roof and look 713 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: through the slat in right field talk. Yeah, yeah, you 714 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: had to do it and and and the thing is 715 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: is that's what made it intimidate. People didn't want to 716 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: come here, uncomfortable coming to the Bronx. And I think 717 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: that played as an advantage to us psychological because you 718 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: remember the players used to come through the back, through 719 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: the gate parking lot, through the people, walk through the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 720 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: it was literally a park. The player parking lot was hit. 721 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: It's a street that people drive and we had a 722 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: park with the basketball courts and everything, hamble everything, so 723 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: everybody it's just movement. So the players is coming. If 724 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: you was a Yankee, we loved you. If it was 725 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: like a red Sock or Mariner, the boll accedentally hit you. 726 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: There's still batteries that stadium, man, Yeah, it was it 727 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: was great. Great. This is this is so crazy because 728 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: I can I can literally see I've been to both stadiums. 729 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, I haven't been to a 730 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of the games. I've always watched them. I was 731 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: a Yankee fan all my life. Like he said, it's generational. 732 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: You don't have no choice, like the yet y'all queens, 733 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: you should be fighting with the just run again. Yeah, 734 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: growing up, like like growing up, you gotta be you 735 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: from here. If you come around with the Bosston, have 736 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: we taken your head? And he kind of had, let's 737 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: just this one. So it was like, if it wasn't 738 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: that move, let me ask you one question. Why why 739 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: is this only official? Yeah, it has to be gra 740 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: that's the original. He just tells you these guys. Yeah, everyone, 741 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: you don't need me here. The fucking Yankee specialists like that. 742 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: My nephew dude and Diego. They pulled me to the side. 743 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: We said that jersey that you post line, you embarrassed us. 744 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: Good friends. That's good friends, friends hoping somebody see. I 745 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: had no idea, Like I literally they literally had an intervention. 746 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: So we're like, yo, we got there just coming tomorrow 747 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they had to talk before 748 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: when it just all came to me at the same time, 749 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: it was like listen, buddy, we we actually take it 750 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: all for Instagram down. I was like, what, there's like 751 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: we are not wearing on the back and I'm so 752 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm bleeding with them. I'm like, come on, man, it's 753 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: just a it's a fanship. They're like, no, I said, 754 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: let me just fan out. They're like, no, you are 755 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: not bringing it and and to hear you co sign it. 756 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get away with this. By the way, 757 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: Sunny d your dad, I don't know what I'm saying, 758 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: like no, but it's okay to keep buying the church 759 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: taking right, you know. It's crazy. So when after they 760 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: hit me with the information, I had my my boy 761 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: diego call Actually Yankee Stadi stand stand. So we call 762 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, no, his jersey's still sold out. 763 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: Do you know that? I don't, but thank you. That 764 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: was like, and you know, we want to braxt were like, 765 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're interviewing Derek's here. You know, I never 766 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: like wh these asholes. He's like, but but she didn't know, 767 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: she didn't know what She's like, No, his jersey is 768 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: still sold out. She's like I felt like she was 769 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: a black lady because she was like child honeys for 770 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: a long time. I just went back to the stadium 771 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: for the whole week ago. How did we not talk 772 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:51,479 Speaker 1: about the Holy Fame? Yea. I remember when we first 773 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: tried to get get you for the interview, and I 774 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: believe Mike called me and Mike said, why don't we 775 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: wait to after after um he gets the Hall of 776 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: Fame him? And I just remember that call was so 777 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: fly to me approach. He just said to me after 778 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I was like, Oh, I said, 779 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew he was lost? How 780 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: how is I know? We said, I spoke a little 781 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: about it earlier. Did you know he was being adducted 782 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame prior? No? No, no, no. 783 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: And it was one dude that didn't vote for you. 784 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: Remember his name is I don't you know? No, you 785 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: know what. I don't know who it is. But let 786 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: me let me start with first of all, I don't 787 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: care and the reason why. You know, it's tough to 788 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: get that many people to agree on anything in life, right, 789 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: And who would I be to say everyone should have 790 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: voted for me? I mean, Hank Karon wasn't you know 791 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? Babe? Ruth wasn't unanimate. You go through 792 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: There's only been one, which is Mariano. The only issue 793 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: that I have is as an athlete, reporters expect you 794 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: to be accountable. They expect you to sit there and 795 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: answer questions about how you performed. And now I have 796 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: to answer questions about whoever this one individual is. You know, 797 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: like the last a few years, I got to answer 798 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: the question he or she should be the one that's 799 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: answering the question of why they didn't vote for me. 800 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't care, right, I don't care. They don't put 801 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: the number of votes on the Hall of Fame fact like, right. 802 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: But but if you're preaching accountability, you have to be 803 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: accountable yourself. I ain't gonna lie. It's a good one. 804 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: Look at my legs. I know you're going down. Yeah, 805 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: reporter is that did because you could be humble? Let me, 806 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: let me, let me take this. Whoever that reporter is, 807 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: we want to put horseship in your shoes, damn. So 808 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: make sure you can protect your feets because we're looking 809 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, we're looking for you. Holy yo, quick time. Okay, okay, okay, 810 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: this is where this is where the show gets a 811 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: little crazy. Right, we fancy for crazy. I feel like 812 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: we're keeping boys down. I feel like that, like it's 813 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: the principal gonna come out of Okay, we got quick time. Okay, 814 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: so I'll explain the game. It's very simple. Uh, you 815 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: don't have to take the shots. We'll we'll be the 816 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 1: bollsos for you to take the shots. We're just gonna Okay, 817 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: So what did it? We'll give you two choices. We'll 818 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: give you, Uh if you say both be politically correct, 819 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: then we take a shot, or neither if you say 820 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: both are needed. If you don't pick one choice, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, 821 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: the first one is fantastic. That was you? Okay, that 822 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: first one's fantastic. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay. 823 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: Ozzie Smith or Cal Ripton Jr. He already knows this game. 824 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: These are good, Okay. Can I explain it's not just 825 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: one of you. I will go with Cal And I'm 826 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why because when I was growing up, 827 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: I was a taller short stope six ft two six three, 828 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: and everyone used to say, you know, you're too tall 829 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: to play the position. And as a tall shortstop, your 830 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: first line of defense was we'll look at cal rickn Jr. Right, 831 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: So Cal sort of changed the mold for shortstops being 832 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: taller so I would say cal just because he was 833 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: closer to I'm not diving around flip into him back 834 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: flips like I can't relate to Ozzy. I can't relate 835 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: to Ozzy. Okay, baby Wolf or Lou Garrett damn man 836 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: love But what what? But? But is there more to 837 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,959 Speaker 1: the question? Is if you want to say both people, 838 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: we will drink for you. I feel like I'm getting 839 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: chat R lou Was Lou Was, lou Was, m Yankee 840 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: captain Babes, larger than life. Just just get the drink. 841 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm just brown, brown, man bad, gonna be 842 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: proud of you. Were getting you that jail? Okay, where 843 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: is it? It's basically the same thing. Anyway, This is 844 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: to you, This is to you. How many of these 845 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: questions we got it? Oh? Because you're from Kendall, I 846 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: want you to ask the next one. Or Barry Larkin, man, 847 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean I played with Alex. You know what I mean. 848 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: It's my teammate Berry. I love Barry Larkin because, um 849 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: he went to University of Michigan. I grew up in Michigan. 850 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: I love Barry Laren, But I played with Alex. Okay 851 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: who Bernie Williams or Ricky Henderson the same thing I 852 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: played with Bernie. But I mean, but Ricky Henderson man 853 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: greatest leadoff hitter in the baseball history. I love Ricky. 854 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: I used to just watch situation Yeah from the Bronx 855 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: Okay two pocket DMX. The game is made for that. 856 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: The game is made that thinks you just made his 857 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: made just for that. You drink yeah, Brome, take this 858 00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: whole shot. The captain is it's not making the and 859 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: we're coming off the last night. Thank you, sir. Okay, 860 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: this is a great one, all right. Dallas Strawberry or 861 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: Tino Martina Columbia, yours would say, you know what they do, 862 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: let me just explain what happened. We come, we sit 863 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: down with together, and then they analyze everything and then 864 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: they start making up ship that they think it's gonna 865 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: be hard for you. So if you have any beef, 866 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: that's the Dominican right there. We're going to the show. 867 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: And then the Colombia. Well, first of all, I would say, 868 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: both me explain, let me explain. Cheers. M Um. Tina 869 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: one of my closest friends during my career. You live 870 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: down the street from me in Tampa. Um, I got 871 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: my first major league hit. Tina was the first basement 872 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: for Seattle, and he told me, congratulations, just the first 873 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: of many. Right, you got Straw? The Yankee signed Straw. 874 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: He came to Triple A, played with him in Triple A, 875 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: and and Daryl was like a big brother to me, 876 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: especially early on in my career. He sat me down 877 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: and told me the expectations of playing in New York. 878 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: Who you need to look out for all the mistakes 879 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 1: he made. Don't fall into the same trap. He played 880 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: for the medicine and so I think you know they're there. 881 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: You talk, yeah, I mean you talk about players that 882 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: you know. My my my thing. In anything you do. 883 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: You can't be an expert at anything unless you've done it. 884 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: You can't be You can be knowledgeable, but you're not 885 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: an expert unless you've gone through it. Now, straight marriage 886 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: adviceful person that never been married exactly, you said that. 887 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: I didn't say that, um so so Straw is someone 888 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: that had experience in terms of being a young player, 889 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: came to New York at a young age, had success, 890 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for the water, had success. Um made mistakes 891 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: and he shared those mistakes, and he looked out for me. 892 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: So I can't pick one. We already did it, what 893 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: we done. This is a good one, This is a 894 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: good one, This is this is this, I don't want 895 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: to call it this stair where's questing? But who can say? 896 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: Walk with wire? All right? I mean honestly, I'm gonna 897 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: be honest with you, jose Can Saco. It's easier to 898 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: rhyme in my rhymes. But you know what I played 899 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: with jose He was on a Yankees for a minute. 900 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: He was Yankees for a minute. Serial issues with jose 901 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: Can Saco. You know he was pretty quiet when he 902 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: was with us. He wasn't with us long. He was 903 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: with us in UM two thousand when we won the 904 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 1: World Series. You know, Mark, I don't know, Well I don't, 905 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: But why why why You've never been acute taking any 906 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: and it has been nothing. I don't know. Check the 907 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: way I always looked at it were um two things. 908 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: One my dad was a drugging alcoholic, youst counselor. I've 909 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: heard stories growing up. It scared me to death right 910 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: to this day. I when I'm doing something, I try 911 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: not to disappoint my parents. You know that fear you 912 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: have kids, You know what I mean? And too with 913 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: the Yankee organization, we got compensated for winning. Yeah, stats 914 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 1: are great, you put up stats, but ultimately, if you won, 915 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: you got paid. That's the only thing that I cared 916 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: about was winning. But so there was no user. Never 917 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: at the gym, and somebody can try to pump you 918 00:53:51,520 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: some some roys. Somebody came like that to me. That's 919 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: how somebodyself steroids because listen, listen my way, let me 920 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: let's list let's we live in my I'm not going 921 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: down to you. Better stay over there, chail listening FLEXI 922 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: like that. It's the only place in Miami, right, I 923 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: mean Equal Knox randomly, I mean Equal Knox. Jim. I'm 924 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: just I'm thinking, I'm and the dude just walks up 925 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: to me and says, hey, man, we could cut this down. 926 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: Shut up very fast. Process, he said. So I say, 927 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: I've never been open steroids before in my life. So 928 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: I said what he said, Man, I got that, Dang, 929 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: two weeks you'd be a different man. I just like, so, 930 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you what. Let's let's 931 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: let's clarify one thing. You know, And first of all, 932 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: you know when when when you hear people say it 933 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: was the steroid era everybody was doing and bullshit, everybody 934 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: was not doing that's right, And it wasn't you And 935 00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I never didn't wasn't. It wasn't like you 936 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: walk in a clubhouse and all the teammates were getting 937 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: together saying, you know you're taking this, you're taking that. 938 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The position I was in 939 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: in the organization. First of all, if you thought someone 940 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: was doing something, do you think they're gonna come tell 941 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: me about it? You know what I mean. So it's 942 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: not like it was just just open secret that everyone 943 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: was discussing. It wasn't right. That's that's ill, because all right, 944 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: let's move out of the staterboys are all right. I 945 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: was trying to distract you from these questions. I ain't 946 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take a shot for that myself. Oh 947 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: I like this one. M j Lebron. I mean, Michael's 948 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: my like my big brother man. So love Lebron. I 949 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: don't know him well, you know, I've only met him 950 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I love him, but Michael's a 951 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: big brother. I can't I can't believe how much Jordan 952 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: was in your documentary like like because you could tell 953 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't do nothing like for nobody, and the fact 954 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: that he came out and supported you it made it 955 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: made it look good and then didn't think about it. 956 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: Is I started to realize that y'all are like if 957 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: they was to say Michael Jordan, they say he's the 958 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: Derek Jeta of basketball. I don't know who says that. 959 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: I do. A couple of young brothers here, right, I'm sorry, 960 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 1: and the Wayne way it is, my friend, it's a 961 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: couple of young brothers here. So they say, they say 962 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: to him, well, Derek Jeeta is to what Dave County 963 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: is to with the Wayne way it is. And I 964 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: had to say stop please, and I said, no, he 965 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: is the Michael Jordan. Well, first of all, I appreciate it, um, 966 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: but I expect the way Michael and I met when 967 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,760 Speaker 1: he was actually playing baseball. Right, So he was playing 968 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: baseball and we're playing and there's this lead called the 969 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: Arizona All League where they take the top prospects in 970 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: the minor leagues and they play. When the season is over, 971 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: they play an extra few weeks in Arizona. So this 972 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: is where I met Michael for the first time. I 973 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: was nineteen years old. I had just one minor league 974 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: player of the Year, right, I got that, And and 975 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: and we're playing Michael's playing in Scottsdale, and he was 976 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: on second base. Yeah, in Arizona. So so he was 977 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: on second base, and first thing he said to me is, 978 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: what's up, DJ. I'm Mike. There's another DJ behind me. 979 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: And UM. From that point forward, Man, he just always 980 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: looked out for me. He always looked out for me, 981 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: and I appreciated it and taught me how to handle yourself, 982 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: not only on the field off the field, on the court. 983 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: Off the court. UM still go to him for advice. 984 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: You talked about all these athletes that are involved in business. 985 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: He was the first, him in Magic, Him and Magic, 986 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: they were the first. And UM, but Michael's always looked 987 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: out for me, man, And literally he's he's like a 988 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: big brother to me because like my Mike with everybody. 989 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: So the fact the fact that you know what I'm saying, 990 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: Like like I said, he's in the whole documentary. I 991 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: thought that was very impressive. Okay, New Yorker, Miami, good 992 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: good one. Sorry, y'all, we understand we're gonna get jumped 993 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: after the way. But it's okay, major League. I don't 994 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: know what the hell you're saying that or the bad 995 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: news bears league. Major League is one of my favorite 996 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: the first one, the first okay, so you picked Major 997 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: leaue the first one? Okay? Michael Jackson or Prince were drinking. Uh, 998 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 1: just the music because you know you gotta music. Don't 999 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: matter which where the other one? Net one, Prince, Dave 1000 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: Winfield or Reggie Jackson. God damn. First of all, I'm 1001 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: sorry I didn't eat yet. Um, Dave was my favorite 1002 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: player growing up. Um, I love Dave Winfield. One of 1003 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: the first athletes to have their own foundation. So when 1004 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: I was younger, I was reading up on Dave and yeah, 1005 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: Dave Winfield post on my wall, and Um, I told 1006 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: my parents, I said, if and when I make it 1007 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: to the Major League, I'm start my own foundation. Reason 1008 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 1: why I started my own foundation Dave Winfield. I spent 1009 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: more time with Reggie during my career because Reggie worked 1010 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: for the organization, and Reggie used to come around and 1011 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 1: every time he'd come to the Yankee Stadium, he'd come 1012 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: right to my locker and he'd sit down, said sit 1013 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: down and read what you got for me, and so 1014 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say both. You know I can't 1015 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: pick between the two. Um, it's a shot. But hold 1016 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: on a second, why why why? Just yeah? Everyone? Just 1017 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: you all the captain. You want to see how powerful 1018 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: you are right now? This in case you want me 1019 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: to fret your power. The captain said, take a shot. Ain't. 1020 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 1: No one here knows. Ain't nobody. Were all excited by 1021 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: the way. We're all excited. We all we feel my 1022 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: show late at night, but we we said, were on 1023 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: your time. I appreciate we all appreciated. I will be 1024 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: tonight by about three theories. That's good. That's that's that's 1025 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: a good time to me. Mickey mantew or Joe di Maggio, Man, Like, 1026 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: why do we even answer? OK, let's take the shot 1027 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: man for ten minutes. So I'm gonna tell you something. 1028 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Joe DiMaggio used to come to Yankee Old Timer's Day 1029 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and I never spoke to him. I never spoke to him. Now, 1030 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I was scared to death, you know what I mean. 1031 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 1: I was scared to death. I didn't want to I'm 1032 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: always I don't want to bother people, you know what 1033 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean? I don't want to get in their space. 1034 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: So he he was intimidated by him. Mickey Mantel passed 1035 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: um a few years prior to so you know, I 1036 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't know Mickey at all, but um Joe dimagi I 1037 01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: was afraid to speak to Okay, I'm gonna stop of that. Okay, 1038 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and you got using you Jo, you cheap? No I 1039 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: needed it. This is wicked do whatever or nas oh 1040 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: man damn? I like this? Yeah, man, come on now 1041 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: right man, the biggest resident. You gotta take both. I 1042 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: you know I know um Ja a little bit better 1043 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: because I had more interactions with Jane. Yeah, and he 1044 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: used to come to more games. You know what I mean? Um, 1045 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean when when when it comes you say, and 1046 01:02:50,880 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: they get bread sticks? Right there were drinking m he 1047 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: said both yea remember that? So um But let me 1048 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: ask that famous line jay Z said. He said he 1049 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: would Yankee had more famous than the Yankee King, more 1050 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: famous than they. I don't necessarily agree with that. I 1051 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree that. I don't necessarily agree that. I 1052 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: appreciate it. But but it was a hard line. Yes, 1053 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was I like the line 1054 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I do um, Let me get through this, and then 1055 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to own you got more? Yeah, we 1056 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: just only a couple more, just more, no, no, no, 1057 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: nothing explaining about I'm gonna skip that one. I'm gonna 1058 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: go because I don't know, Damn, I don't know one 1059 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Roger Clemens or Andy and oh man, you know I 1060 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, you know, I gotta go with Andy 1061 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: because I played with Andy since I was eighteen years 1062 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Here's here's a fact for you. But so I'm gonna 1063 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: get to rocket in a minute, So um, thank me. 1064 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Andy Pettitt, Mariano Rivera and j Posodic called the Core four. 1065 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Now they leave Bernie Williams out of it. And the 1066 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 1: only reason why they don't mention Bernie is because Bernie 1067 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: wasn't there in two thousand nine when we won our 1068 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: fifth championship. That's when the nickname came the Core for 1069 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: so everyone's like Bernie should have been a part of 1070 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: the court. Wey. Anytime you talk to any of us, 1071 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the first person we mentioned is Bernie Williams, right, because um, 1072 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, we wouldn't have got a chance without Bernie. 1073 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: So Andy pettit was an idiot, and he left and 1074 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: went to Houston for a couple of years and he 1075 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: came back myself. Mariano and Jorge are the only three 1076 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: athletes in any of the professional sports to play seventeen 1077 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 1: years together. Wow, it would have been four of us, 1078 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: like it's those three. So so Andy I knows his 1079 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: eighteen I gotta pick Andy just because I'm done with 1080 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: you guys, with this whole game. But Roger Clemens, Yeah, 1081 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: I can't hear now, Roger Clemmens. I hated Roger Clemens 1082 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: when I played against him. Hate him. Used to hit 1083 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: me all the time. You try to intimidate you. You 1084 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: go to All Star Games. You wouldn't speak to hitters. 1085 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Play with Roger Clemens. He's one of the best teammates 1086 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: you'll have. Yes, yes, yes, yes, So you know I 1087 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: love Rocket, Um, but I picked Andy on history by 1088 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: far fire to kill O'Neil or Kareem abdul Jabbar. Man? 1089 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Man? How does how does 1090 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: this end up? For most people? They keep drinking this? 1091 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: This is how we get them. I love like, I 1092 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: really do. I love Shack. Um. I've met um, Kareem 1093 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: as well. Couldn't have been better both of them. Um. 1094 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, Kareem go down is one of the top 1095 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: two three, I mean the one to three, four or 1096 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: five on MJ's one. But you know, and and shock too, 1097 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: so I both I gotta continue, I gotta keep relationships 1098 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 1: because I'll be skipping doing the rest of this. I'm 1099 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: gonna just end it with the last one is the 1100 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: last one for the Quick Time of Slim. Everyone thinks 1101 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a trick question. Me and E F And don't 1102 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 1: think it's a true question. We think it's the most 1103 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: easiest question. I think that's what you think too, where 1104 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, it's a no brainer. Loyalty or respect. 1105 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: Loyalty because I think if you're loyal, you gained respect 1106 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: from people to loyalty. So because one of my favorite 1107 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: moments is when the your parents is in the stadium 1108 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: and then you look at them and then that was 1109 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: your nephew there was and he has so much swag. 1110 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: He like everyone know it's it's it's funny because it's 1111 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,959 Speaker 1: you know, that whole my whole last game I played 1112 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium and um I played for parts of 1113 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: twenty seasons and um I only played one game in 1114 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium that didn't count. One game where we're eliminated 1115 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: only one. Every other game we were still in playoff 1116 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 1: contention or we're getting ready to go to the playoffs. 1117 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: The only game I played we're eliminated was the last 1118 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 1: game I played in Yankee Stadium. And you know, everyone 1119 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: talks about, oh, it was all set up right, you know, 1120 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: David Robinson is supposed to give up to home runs 1121 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: so you can come up and get a walk off 1122 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: hit and your nephews him in his cap, Like it 1123 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: wasn't planning. This is not a movie. It wasn't like 1124 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: we practiced it, yeah, exactly. So it's just everything just 1125 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: sort of just lined up. And people say, you know, 1126 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,439 Speaker 1: what's your favorite game that you played and obviously talked 1127 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: about when you win championships. But that's the freshest in 1128 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,479 Speaker 1: my mind, you know, because the last game I played 1129 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Yankees Staum and it didn't count. It didn't mean anything 1130 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: for the Yankees as an organization, but it meant something 1131 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 1: for Yankee fans and for me because we grew up together. 1132 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 1: And and it's kind of embarrassing to say it's the 1133 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,600 Speaker 1: only one didn't count, but it counted for me. Now, 1134 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm forty five years old. My 1135 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: father is uh, God bless he passed away. Hard baseball fan, 1136 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: that hard Yankee fan. He was actually uh from Puerto Rico, 1137 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 1: then moved to harm and then he moved to Queens. 1138 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: But and I have never seen the respectful baseball player 1139 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: like I've never seen. If you ever if you said 1140 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: that New York has ever like turned on you, well, 1141 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: like I've never seen I've never seen somebody with so 1142 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: much love. Do you know? Do you know like you're 1143 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: one of the most beloved baseball most were playing up 1144 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: all time, but definitely one of the most loved Yankees 1145 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 1: the all time. Like people use you as an example. 1146 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Do you know that I know that, I know that 1147 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: we talked about it before. I know that they appreciate 1148 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 1: players that come to work every day. You have come 1149 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 1: to work every day, man, And you can't make excuses. 1150 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 1: New Yorkers don't want to hear excuses. You know. It's 1151 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: like I've said it before, when you know you have 1152 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you have athletes and and um, I say it respectfully, 1153 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: but you know they're playing a game. They're saying, I'm 1154 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: eight percent fun is eight percent? Man? You either player, 1155 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: you don't I don't want to hear about them. You 1156 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: play the game or you don't, and if you do 1157 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: well or you do poorly, you stand in front of 1158 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: your locker and you answer questions and you don't use 1159 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: things as an excuse. There's no built in excuses in 1160 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: New York. You can't fool New Yorkers, man, And you can't. 1161 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: You can't for a short period of time. But they're 1162 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna figure you out. And I think if you know, 1163 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: I was there for twenty years, and um, they would 1164 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: have figured me out if I was if I was 1165 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 1: someone other than you know, people always say, oh, oh, 1166 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you have a great image. It's an image, right, you know, 1167 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: it's no image, it's character characters who you are, image 1168 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 1: who you want everyone else to see you as, right right, 1169 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't care what my images with you. I want 1170 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: to have a good character, you know what I'm saying. 1171 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: And I think New Yorkers appreciate that. And um man, 1172 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I I say the same thing about them. New Yorkers 1173 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 1: are they're they're they're very clear with what their expectations are. 1174 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: You know they are. What was Mike good in basketball? Yes? 1175 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something, um like, because you know, 1176 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: look a lot of people laugh, Oh, Michael was this, 1177 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Michael was at Michael Jordan played basketball, I mean played 1178 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: baseball in little league, and then the next time he 1179 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 1: played he's playing in double A baseball. Now, when you 1180 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: played in the minor leagues, once you get to double A, 1181 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: the biggest jump, right, I just wanted for everyone listening. 1182 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, you have rookie ball, you have low A, 1183 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: you have high A, you have double A, you have 1184 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: triple A. Then you get to the major leagues. Once 1185 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 1: you get to double A, the biggest jump is from 1186 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: A to double A. If you can play in double 1187 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: A baseball, you can play in the major leagues. Right, 1188 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: At some point you can play in the major league. 1189 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: He went from little league to double A and hit 1190 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: two hundred, right, which everyone's like, oh, he hit two hundreds, 1191 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: and that's not easy to do. A lot of people 1192 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: feel the real lives cap that baseball is a game 1193 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: of failures. Yes, yes, like a great achievement, but that's 1194 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: three hundred out of a thousand. Yeah. I hit my 1195 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: first year, I was mentioned the high school player of 1196 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the year. I went to rookie ball, hit two O 1197 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: two two O two and had a great two weeks. 1198 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: I was hot the last two weeks to get just 1199 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: over to two. So it's it's it's tough to do, 1200 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: and people just think you you watch something on television 1201 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 1: and because you're great at one sport, it should translate 1202 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 1: into another. Doesn't happen like that. So Michael was a 1203 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: lot better than people give him credit for. And if 1204 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: he played longer, I think he would have just continue 1205 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 1: to improve. That last game that you had, it seems 1206 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: like you was fighting back tears the whole time. It 1207 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, because because you know, one thing that 1208 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: we know about everybody that's great, the announced the retirement 1209 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 1: like two or three times and then they never really retired. 1210 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: But did you know that that was really gonna be 1211 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: a last game? Yeah? Yeah. Before the season I knew, 1212 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to everyone said, oh, why did 1213 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: you say this is gonna be your last year? Because 1214 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 1: I knew If I didn't say it was gonna be 1215 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: the last year, I would have been asked the question 1216 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: every series, every serious is this your last year? Is 1217 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 1: your last year? And I always said, um, I'm playing 1218 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: a sport for a career. If it's not fun and 1219 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: if it feels like it's a job, I'm done. I 1220 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 1: broke my ankle twice. It was a lot of rehab 1221 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: and now it finally became it felt like it was 1222 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,600 Speaker 1: a job. So I was like, man, I'm done. This 1223 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: is my last year. I have not throwing a baseball 1224 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 1: or swung a bat since I retired, with an exception 1225 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: of throwing off the first pitch twice. I was done. Man, 1226 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: so right now if he won't play one on one 1227 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: and stickball? Yeah, so did you purposely wait to have children? 1228 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: So after part of the documentary, So so, first of all, 1229 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: what's by the way, I love the document you did. 1230 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. UM purposely waited? I 1231 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: didn't meet the right woman right to the camera. But 1232 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,560 Speaker 1: but but look, let me, I'll be honest with you 1233 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 1: in terms of UM, I've always had UM a great 1234 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:27,879 Speaker 1: deal of admiration and somewhat I don't want to say jealousy, 1235 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 1: because you know you're not jealous of other people. UM, 1236 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: but people brought they brought their kids in the clubhouse 1237 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: on the field. But I just knew that I was 1238 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: way too selfish during my career, way too selfish. It 1239 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: was all about me and it wouldn't have been fair 1240 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 1: to my significant other or kids. The great the greatest 1241 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: thing I can say about my parents, as they were 1242 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: always present and everything I did me and my sister, 1243 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: they were present. They were there, and I always wanted 1244 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: to be there for my kids as well. So, Um, 1245 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say purposely I didn't read meet the right person. Um, 1246 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 1: but I knew that for me. In order you say 1247 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the right it's got to be the right time for you. 1248 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 1: It has to also be the right time for your 1249 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: significant other. And thank god I met my wife when 1250 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I did towards the end of my career. You're a girl, dad, 1251 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: I am yeah. I got, yeah, I got, I got, 1252 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 1: I got. Don't clap pray for me. I got three 1253 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: of them. Man, five three and a half and ten months. 1254 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,640 Speaker 1: I need to notice. Tell us how you felt a 1255 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 1: three thousand with the Home Run? Um well, I toldly 1256 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 1: everyone was gonna hit home Run movie that movie stuff. Yeah, well, 1257 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 1: I told everyone I was gonna do it. I'm just spreading, 1258 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm just playing. You know what the thing is is, 1259 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: I struggled. I always struggled when it was all about me, 1260 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 1: which is why I struggled. I in my mind, why 1261 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,760 Speaker 1: I struggled my last year because it's all about everything. Unfortunately, 1262 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: it was all about me and answering questions, not about 1263 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the team. It was strictly on me. So um. Leading 1264 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 1: up to three thousand hits, I struggled bad, you know, 1265 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: and I got hurt. Um. All I wanted was when 1266 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I got my three thousand hit, I wanted to be 1267 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 1: a clean hit because it's gonna be showed over and stadium. 1268 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it at Yankee Stadium. Put a 1269 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on myself to do it at Yankee 1270 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: Stadium and show up. Do you talk to Aaron right 1271 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: now because he's chasing he's chasing the sixty two? Because 1272 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: not direct because a similar thing. I just say, not directly, 1273 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of times you have everyone 1274 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,599 Speaker 1: in your ear and there's too much noise. Everyone has 1275 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,719 Speaker 1: an opinion. Um, So I think sometimes you just gotta 1276 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: remove yourself from all the noise and just do what 1277 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 1: you continue to do. Yeah, so let's let's talk about 1278 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: the three thousand for a second, because no picture actually 1279 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 1: wants to be the person you hit over. What was that? Ever? 1280 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: A discrepancy was people were like purposely walking you know, 1281 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't necessarily say that, because, um, 1282 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: you can't. It's tough to walk someone over and over 1283 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again. Look, you talk about Aaron's 1284 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: hitting home runs. Man, that's different than getting hits, right, 1285 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's completely different. Um, So I wouldn't say 1286 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,760 Speaker 1: I I looked at it as people were trying to 1287 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,800 Speaker 1: pitch around me. I wouldn't say that you didn't think 1288 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:41,639 Speaker 1: you didn't think they was that golic bread goddamnit be needed. Yeah, 1289 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: so y'all have to thank you. Okay, this is great, 1290 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: this is great. I got mad notes though, because you 1291 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 1: got seven parts of this beautiful documentary. And again I 1292 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,080 Speaker 1: really really appreciate like you holding down my city like 1293 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 1: it was crazy because some of the best years in 1294 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: hip hop because when the Yankees the Yankee and you, 1295 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 1: you're going but you know what, there was the rise 1296 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: of New York. It was thinking about it all happened 1297 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, so it's we're all connected. Yeah, no, no, 1298 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. Oh man, Okay, okay, damn did he 1299 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: Oh did he named you the prince because he said 1300 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,719 Speaker 1: that evidently it was calling you the king of New Yorker. 1301 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Did he say that's the rum? Yeah? Your documentary. Yeah 1302 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 1: it is, yeah it is. But you know, look, did 1303 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 1: you hang out with Big I didn't. No, no, never, no, 1304 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: never never met him. No, that's right before I got there. 1305 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 1: How about punt No Joe, Yeah, but not punt no. Yeah, 1306 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Holy ship. Okay, so down to 1307 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: in the nineties World Series? How do how do how 1308 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: do this is against Boston again? Atlanta? Atlanta. Describe what 1309 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 1: was going on at that moment um the way I 1310 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 1: always looked at sports, right, Baseball, actually, anything? Every single day, 1311 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 1: do you have an opportunity to win a game? I 1312 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 1: treated a spring training game the exact same as seventh 1313 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 1: game of World Series. So once you get into that situation, right, 1314 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: So we had lost two games and it was like, okay, 1315 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: win game three, win game three, win game four, and 1316 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: then we won four in a row to win the 1317 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,759 Speaker 1: World Series. So I just don't think. I think sometimes 1318 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, my my biggest thing in in in life 1319 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 1: that makes me most uncomfortable as being unprepared. And that's 1320 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: in anything. If you're unprepared. You hear athletes talk about 1321 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: game speeds up, slows down. What slows down when you're prepared? 1322 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Speeds up when you're unprepared. Right, so every time you're 1323 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: in a situation, I've already gone through it in my head. 1324 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 1: And if you have the same approach to a spring 1325 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 1: training game as you do a World Series game, nothing changes. 1326 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing, by the way. But the Baltimore fight, 1327 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: you remember, we've been and we we we've gone from 1328 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 1: two to ninety eight. Are the Baltimore fight? Okay, you 1329 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 1: moved straw? They were straw? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the 1330 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 1: Yankees bullies. No, we weren't bullies, but you couldn't bully us, 1331 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 1: right right, I think it's the best way to put 1332 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,679 Speaker 1: it right now. We were we were, we were bullies. 1333 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 1: It's the Yanes for that is the block some bullies. Yeah, 1334 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm gonna tell you something that hit 1335 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 1: me in the documentary, right And it was the only 1336 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: time I was like because I didn't think that you 1337 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,880 Speaker 1: whatever go through something like this. I remember me meeting 1338 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 1: with Leo comes and Leo cons I had a contract 1339 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 1: with him, and Leo Colins told me, I said, I 1340 01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: got more money offer over here, and Leo Colon said, 1341 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,600 Speaker 1: but this is defa you're gonna sell more with me, 1342 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: So I don't care who gives you another offer? The 1343 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 1: Yankees of this ship, and I didn't know. I didn't 1344 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: know Death Jam was biting off of the Yankees. So 1345 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 1: when I actually said that, they was like, oh and 1346 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: then that was their explanation. You with the Yankees, bitch? 1347 01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: So I said, oh, Ship, you real talk? So I said, oh, Ship. 1348 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: So it's like, damn, they almost make you pay less 1349 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,560 Speaker 1: to be with the winning team. Makes sense though, And 1350 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 1: because I remember me seeing that and and they saying 1351 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 1: to you, well, go ahead, you go shop, shop shop. 1352 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 1: I remember that. I think I think I single handedly 1353 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 1: seen your face expressions. I've seen you change from that 1354 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 1: moment because I felt like he was loyal to our 1355 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 1: organization and then that organization was just business wise to you. 1356 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: Did you feel like that at that time? Well, first 1357 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: of all, let me let me let me preface it 1358 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 1: with I'm gonna just give you my thoughts of during 1359 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: the time. During the time, because now being in another 1360 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: another side of it, everyone just want to say, you 1361 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: know you on the other side, I look at us 1362 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 1: another side of the sport, right, Um, So I understand 1363 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: why certain decisions are made during the time. Like I 1364 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 1: said in the documentary, when I was a free agent. 1365 01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,080 Speaker 1: I was only free agent once in my career, and 1366 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: right when I World Series over, you could be a 1367 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 1: free agent. I went and met with our owner and 1368 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: GM team president, my agent, and I said, look, verbatim, 1369 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Not go anywhere, I said. I 1370 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 1: told my agent, I probably shouldn't do this in negotiations, 1371 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: but I told my agent, if any other team calls, 1372 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 1: tell them I'm not interested, treat me fairly, don't make 1373 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: it public. The only thing I asked, and then they 1374 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: made it public, was that the kids. Was that the boss, No, 1375 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 1: that was front office? Was the both still around at 1376 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: that time? No? No, well here, yeah. I actually when 1377 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,719 Speaker 1: I saw that, I was like, because it was zimbled 1378 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: something that I had just went through, and I was like, 1379 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 1: I didn't do And I was like, damn, this New 1380 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: York is the Yankees is definitely I was like, damn 1381 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: they actually they actually it's foul. But but because you know, 1382 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 1: it was your business, you know, I get it's a 1383 01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 1: business man, but it's a business. But but um, you 1384 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,320 Speaker 1: know you're always here in sports yet But no, no, no, 1385 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere. I said, I wasn't going anywhere. 1386 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: I tell you're not going anywhere. Um. But but you know, 1387 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 1: it goes back to like I said in the documentary 1388 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Loyalty One way, stupidity exactly. You know what I mean. 1389 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 1: Um you know, look, I'm gonna just show you in 1390 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 1: my notes Loyalty one it's stupid. Yeah. So it's it's 1391 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: I told him I wasn't going anywhere. I wasn't gonna 1392 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 1: go anywhere regardless of what happened. Right, I'm beyond that. 1393 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,680 Speaker 1: Like I said before, we're talking about other situations. I'm 1394 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: that that's no friction whatsoever. I understand there's there's different 1395 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 1: sizes of the business. I really do. I get that now, 1396 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 1: even more so than when I played. Did you get 1397 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: that more that your owner when you became an owner, 1398 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 1: that you understand their position or understand you know, as 1399 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 1: a player, it's it's it's right now. It's always right now. 1400 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: When you're talking about ownership, front office, you're thinking three, 1401 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven years down the road. You 1402 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 1: have to take that in consideration. As an athlete, it's like, 1403 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: this is who I am today, this is who I'm 1404 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 1: going to be next year. That's what I'm gonna be 1405 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 1: ten years. May you never think you're gonna go the 1406 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 1: other direction, and you never think your organization is not 1407 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 1: going to appreciate you to the extent. Like like like 1408 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,600 Speaker 1: when I when I heard that story, I was just 1409 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: like because I didn't remember, Like I was like, no, 1410 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 1: there's no way that that happened. And then I'm sitting 1411 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: back sitting but I was like, yeah, this is actually happened. 1412 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, at the time, you think, oh, 1413 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: maybe they're not they don't appreciate you, But now it 1414 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: wasn't a they don't appreciate I think. I never I 1415 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,560 Speaker 1: never thought that they I shouldn't they never thought. I 1416 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 1: don't think now that they didn't appreciate me. They always 1417 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 1: appreciated me. But it was a business decision. Yeah, that's crazy. 1418 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 1: As as much as you can be loyal to an 1419 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: organization and give them your loyalty, it's still something that 1420 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 1: can that's in life though it's not just organization. Yeah, yeah, 1421 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: you're right, it's oh man, like I ain't gonna lie that. 1422 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 1: That was a deep me watching that because I'm like, damn, 1423 01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: I went through it. I just had somebody to sit 1424 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 1: down with me and tell me that you had you 1425 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 1: are here this is where you at. You can't and 1426 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 1: guess what, just like you, I stayed with them. Look 1427 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 1: at you, Leo Cole. I'm gonna be honest with you. 1428 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: You were right. He was right, he was right. I 1429 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 1: sold more records with him, They put me on tour, 1430 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 1: they did me everything that they did. But at the time, 1431 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I felt unappreciated that. I felt like, wait, if they're 1432 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna if somebody else's is offered me this over here, 1433 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 1: why y'all y'all, and I already made you blaques, I 1434 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,400 Speaker 1: already made you. He was telling you was that was 1435 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:48,679 Speaker 1: the equivalent of you playing for the Yeah, they have people. 1436 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 1: I come at you. I'm not going I didn't say nothing. 1437 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,479 Speaker 1: He didn't say that. I'm saying that. I'm gonna taking 1438 01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,000 Speaker 1: me a little piece of gold bread. I'm throwing that 1439 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: out there, you know, so what you're laughing at me? Definitely? 1440 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 1: But wait, But just like the music business changed, as 1441 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: the game change in your eyes, since you play, oh yeah, yeah, 1442 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 1: oh man, it's all analytics, you know, it's all you know, 1443 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 1: analytics have taken over the game. I always think anytime 1444 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 1: you make a decision, you want to have as much 1445 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 1: information as you possibly can. Write right if you if 1446 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 1: you say no to that, then you're not doing your job. 1447 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 1: But I also think you can't measure everything, you know, 1448 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Mr Tory, Joe Tory to always say you can't. You 1449 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: can't measure person's heartbeat. People have heart beats. You can't 1450 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 1: necessarily just take a player from Milwaukee and plug him 1451 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 1: into New York and think the same thing's gonna happen. 1452 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 1: There's more pressures, you know, you have to get to 1453 01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: know people, and so analytics can't measure everything. And think 1454 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 1: the game has gotten very very analytical. What's your favorite 1455 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: moment as a Yankee? Two thousand nine? Every time? Seriously, 1456 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 1: every time you win, every time you win? What's it? Ready? 1457 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 1: That's a lot of favorite time. I ain't got a 1458 01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 1: lot of you, man. You're a class act man. Thank you. 1459 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,799 Speaker 1: They don't make many people like you. Um. I remember 1460 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 1: me talking to Mike Tyson and Mike Tyson saying, and 1461 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,920 Speaker 1: I say, Mike Tyson, you're one of the great and 1462 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson said, please don't call me a great And 1463 01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 1: I said why in Tyson said, because most great people 1464 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: aren't good people. And it fucked me up. But I'm 1465 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,680 Speaker 1: telling you to your face man and man, you're a 1466 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: great person. That's appreciate that man, Thank you, you with you. Um, 1467 01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: you're a very honorable, respectful person and you're very humble. 1468 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 1: But we're gonna be cocky for you. But you deserve 1469 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 1: your flowers. You deserve everything. UM. I really like, like, 1470 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: like I said, I watched that community three times. I 1471 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 1: had to go back because, like I said, did I 1472 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: say her name earlier? The one who makes a shot town? 1473 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 1: And then she says she cried, So I wanted to 1474 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,720 Speaker 1: figure out where she cried. And I figured out why 1475 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,479 Speaker 1: she cried, even if it was because she was a 1476 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 1: white Sox fan or she was whatever, it's because she 1477 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 1: got to witness one of the greatest players of all 1478 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: time be the greatest. Thank you humble, I know that. 1479 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: But UM, that's where we is. That's why we're so 1480 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 1: excited about this interview. UM, that's why we were so 1481 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,799 Speaker 1: excited to be here. Every individual here we were seriously 1482 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 1: like coming like it was like and and and like 1483 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: like we were saying, like you like a mafia boss, 1484 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:06,559 Speaker 1: like it was like that, and we want to give 1485 01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 1: your flowers to your face because you truly indeed deserve it. 1486 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 1: You're truly indeed an icon, your legend, and you hold 1487 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 1: yourself as such. And we appreciative you are and what 1488 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 1: you're doing. And we're gonna wear the greatness all yes, yes, yes, 1489 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 1: hell yeah, we we we love it. That's what we think. 1490 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 1: And you know we're at the legendary famous car Bones, 1491 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorite restaurants in the world. I know 1492 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: they got my credit card on five. I just wanted 1493 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,960 Speaker 1: to give you your flowers because because you since still 1494 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 1: that you ain't had to do this. You could have 1495 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: did anything you do. You you've been wanting to do 1496 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: in the world, but you do you can't. You here 1497 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,719 Speaker 1: with us, and this means a lot. We get body 1498 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 1: here to everyone, you know, people flying in over there 1499 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 1: like this guy's me crazy, Yes, really big, he flew. 1500 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,960 Speaker 1: I made cool of me. Yeah, I don't know if 1501 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna have I said, Yo, that's the captain. You 1502 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:17,760 Speaker 1: gotta days. I'm not cool him, he said. I don't 1503 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,360 Speaker 1: give a fuck, he said, I don't care if they 1504 01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 1: if you want to him, and why I play like 1505 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 1: great of it just on the screen as it going 1506 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 1: and you can't even here him. He's the captain. You 1507 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,320 Speaker 1: have to go with it. And I said I did, 1508 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,720 Speaker 1: and listen, we are appreciate it. Yes we did. Yes, 1509 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 1: we are appreciated because this means the world to us. Man, 1510 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,680 Speaker 1: You're you're really honorable. God, thank you really one of 1511 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 1: those the greats. That is a great. Thanks for having me. 1512 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 1: It can't be six more years before you had me 1513 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,880 Speaker 1: back now, yeah, no, no, no, any time you want 1514 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 1: to promote anything, whatever you want to promote, I ain't 1515 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna lie. Yeah, you't gonna hit this calling Brad, Yeah, 1516 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm wanna you know this is red Ryan going down 1517 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,800 Speaker 1: like guy, ain't gonna right. Here's wicked. Are you a 1518 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,000 Speaker 1: food I am? This is this is my favorite restaurant 1519 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 1: New York and obviously down here and I've seen he 1520 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: was as well. Yes, so we called bone Let's yea 1521 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: food group? Yeah yeah yeah. One thing about you that 1522 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 1: is remarkable. I'm looking at the old footage. You never 1523 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 1: really had security. Now why not? Because the talent protected you? No, 1524 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 1: I just died, man. It's just I think it draws 1525 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 1: attention to you. Man, that your man. I just I 1526 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: came here about myself. Nobody here with me. You know, 1527 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,680 Speaker 1: I know I got you, I know I got you. 1528 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:55,559 Speaker 1: I just never had it, but other baseball players have security. Yeah, maybe, yeah, 1529 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,240 Speaker 1: was there any point that so you never like felt 1530 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,760 Speaker 1: threaten that No point, Like even in Boston, I say 1531 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: in my room a lot. I gotta know when you're 1532 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 1: moving around and when you should stay home. One of 1533 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,360 Speaker 1: my close friends of my his name is city boy D. 1534 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,200 Speaker 1: He's from Boston. And the minute I said said, yo, 1535 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 1: we got Derrek g on drink chance, he was like yo, 1536 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even know, but I just grew up. Hey 1537 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 1: here he's like you now, I feel like he's the 1538 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 1: coolest guy in the world. But at one point it 1539 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 1: was being so much that it couldn't have been safe 1540 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,400 Speaker 1: for you going. And we're talking about generational fans like 1541 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: you learned you grow up. You hate the Yankees man 1542 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,599 Speaker 1: but for no reason. Yeah, you just hate him New York, 1543 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,920 Speaker 1: you hate Boston. It's just I don't think that ever 1544 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:48,599 Speaker 1: is gonna change. God, holy boy, I ain't gonna lie. 1545 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,760 Speaker 1: I got more questions, but come back, I feel like, yeah, 1546 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 1: because that Yeah, before we go, Cap, who was going 1547 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,400 Speaker 1: through your mom the shuffle shuffle out the home plate. 1548 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 1: You know you're talking about we're talking about being prepared. 1549 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 1: That was where I was supposed to be. I was 1550 01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,120 Speaker 1: supposed to throw at third base and not supposed to 1551 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 1: But I said it before. You know, I've joked about 1552 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 1: it before about John b family not being so fat. 1553 01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 1: Jeremy unfortunately passed away recently. Um yeah, but but you know, 1554 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,640 Speaker 1: you're taking into consideration everything that's going on. So I 1555 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 1: knew we had a chance to get them. So it's 1556 01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,400 Speaker 1: just one of those plays that he won't see it 1557 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:36,679 Speaker 1: happen again. Everything aligned, you know, I don't I don't 1558 01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,320 Speaker 1: think you don't know what I'm talking about. No, I 1559 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 1: definitely don't what it was interesting. Okay, Okay, that's the 1560 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 1: documentary too. Yeah it works, it works. Oh yeah, that's 1561 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 1: in the documentary. So definitely in the document I ain't live. 1562 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:59,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I would say the people, I'm like this, 1563 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,320 Speaker 1: why did you get your life together? People? Listen? Listen 1564 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:08,320 Speaker 1: because it's so much like even with the Non eleven part. Yeah, 1565 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 1: like I didn't realize how much my city got put 1566 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,080 Speaker 1: put together and how much it was important for the 1567 01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 1: Yankees after No. Eleven, you know what I mean, Like, um, 1568 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,280 Speaker 1: that's what you got missing November from Yeah, and we 1569 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,360 Speaker 1: didn't know at the time what you look at what 1570 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,240 Speaker 1: we're playing a game. Man, game is a mean thing, 1571 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,160 Speaker 1: but it did. Yeah, I did. You know if you're 1572 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 1: getting people something to cheer for for a few hours 1573 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: a day, man, when they really had nothing to cheer for, 1574 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,560 Speaker 1: and that's that's that's that's that's what's crazy. Um. We 1575 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 1: were just talking before we walked in. I had a 1576 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 1: bunch of my Miami boys and I had a bunch 1577 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 1: of you know, New York boys. We were just all 1578 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: sitting there and it was like it was big for 1579 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 1: New York and I was like no. That moment was 1580 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,320 Speaker 1: like I think they I think they say the Dallas 1581 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys is like America's team, but the Yankees is really 1582 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: America's team. Like I'm been the duce with off Germany. 1583 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,479 Speaker 1: I've been to you know, Yugoslavia. I've been to uh 1584 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Russia where people would have a hat on and I 1585 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,280 Speaker 1: would ask him. I would ask him, you you're wearing 1586 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,800 Speaker 1: that because of jay Z. They're like, no, I'm wearing 1587 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 1: this because I'm a Yankee fan. In Russia, we saw 1588 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you from Germany. They're like they're looking 1589 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 1: at me, like that's racist. Like I can be from 1590 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 1: Germany and be a Yankee fan, and I was like, 1591 01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 1: holy shit. That's when you know when you when you 1592 01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,639 Speaker 1: travel abroad and you're like, wow, this is not because 1593 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,439 Speaker 1: like someone said earlier, they was like it's a New 1594 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,120 Speaker 1: York thing, and I was like, no, I witnessed this 1595 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 1: like I've been all over the world where they're wearing 1596 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 1: a Yankee fan yank excuse me, a Yankee hat and 1597 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 1: they're like, I'm a Yankee fan. You're thinking like they 1598 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,920 Speaker 1: got it through hip hop, but now so um it's 1599 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: a symbol. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely is. Man, it definitely is. 1600 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm drinking all of that. Nobody offered me something. Yeah, 1601 01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a man, I'm in m It looks like 1602 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 1: you didn't take that shot, sir. Come on for the Bronx, 1603 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 1: that Bronx, for the Bronx. Take your shot. Holy sort 1604 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:19,519 Speaker 1: you got anything? Well? I mean yeah, definitely. Yeah. I 1605 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 1: want to say, d you know, I follow you, you know, 1606 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,400 Speaker 1: as far as an athlete because I wasn't a Yankee fan. 1607 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah he's Miami. Let's be clear. I went from New 1608 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,679 Speaker 1: Jersey as such as yourself, you were going to impact 1609 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,640 Speaker 1: when not townships. I want to say, I want to 1610 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,519 Speaker 1: claim you as a Jersey person. But even though you 1611 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,600 Speaker 1: went to Michigan. But for for me, I like what 1612 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 1: athletes do after their season, after their career, when they 1613 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,719 Speaker 1: turned to the community and turned to foundations. It sounded 1614 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 1: really big. You mentioned it earlier, but I want you 1615 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 1: to emphasize on how you that became something important to you. Yeah, 1616 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,600 Speaker 1: we started. Um. I was talking about Dave Winfield to 1617 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 1: my parents the one I made it, I want to 1618 01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,519 Speaker 1: start my own foundation. My dad was drugging alcohol use 1619 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,040 Speaker 1: counselor so in Detroit in a hotel room in Detroit, 1620 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,120 Speaker 1: having pizza, and I told my dad, look, I want 1621 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:09,120 Speaker 1: to start my own foundation, and like anything throughout my life, 1622 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 1: they said, if you're serious about it, will support you. 1623 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,680 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I'm serious about it and I 1624 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 1: want you to help me run it. So my dad 1625 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,840 Speaker 1: quit his private practice. We started the foundation. It's it's 1626 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,640 Speaker 1: it's based in West Michigan area where I grew up, 1627 01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 1: New York area obviously where I used to work and 1628 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:32,480 Speaker 1: down in Florida, and to promote healthy lifestyles academic excellence. 1629 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,799 Speaker 1: We are. One of our signature programs is our leadership 1630 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,080 Speaker 1: programs called Jeter's Leaders or Kids who are who are 1631 01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 1: role models not only in their schools but in their community. 1632 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 1: And and and we promote social change. And we want 1633 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:52,479 Speaker 1: our kids to realize that there voices are powerful at 1634 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 1: a young age and when they get older, they're gonna 1635 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 1: be very comfortable using those voices. We've given back north 1636 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,000 Speaker 1: of thirty five million dollars is now in UM the 1637 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: twenties six year and UM couldn't be more proud of it. 1638 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,240 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of support from the communities, UM, 1639 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 1: a lot of my partners, you know, throughout my career, 1640 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: every marketing deal I did, they had to give to 1641 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:20,360 Speaker 1: my foundation. UM. And I think people talk about legacy. 1642 01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to have a legacy for their career, but 1643 01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,160 Speaker 1: I think the most important legacy you can leave is 1644 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,000 Speaker 1: what you do to impact other people's lives. And UM, 1645 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 1: It's always been important to me and my family and 1646 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 1: we're going to continue doing that. So thanks for asking. 1647 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:44,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Year, I got you got you got got, 1648 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: I got you know my notes and Mr leg just 1649 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,559 Speaker 1: se text me what about his watch that the Daytona 1650 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:58,559 Speaker 1: roles Go is a gift from my wife. Man let 1651 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,400 Speaker 1: me see the yes yes stays on the rose Gold, 1652 01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 1: black face, Yese, don't miss anything around here. Uh yeah, 1653 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:17,800 Speaker 1: text to me that Oh god, holy molylacka moles. I mean, 1654 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,880 Speaker 1: and I actually had the ninety six the Joe, the 1655 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 1: Joe Torre era, and we spoke about that earlier. That's 1656 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,240 Speaker 1: not that's not the same steroids era. That's different area. 1657 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 1: I'm question trusting Derek. I got tell you, my lifelong 1658 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: Yankee fan, I felt bad for for the hit Manny 1659 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 1: when he retired and you guys wanted the next season. 1660 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 1: Did you feel the way did you feel like, damn, 1661 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:56,639 Speaker 1: we should have been here for this? Um? We learned 1662 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot from Donnie. You know, Donnie played a longer, 1663 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 1: never went to the postseason except that our first our 1664 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,439 Speaker 1: first year coming up, and he had the Microsoft most 1665 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,040 Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know, I learned a lot from 1666 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,600 Speaker 1: Donnie and how you carry yourself, you know, how you 1667 01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 1: play the game, how you're professional and um, yeah, so 1668 01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 1: you feel bad, you know, it just goes to show you. 1669 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to be in the right place 1670 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,439 Speaker 1: at the right time to Yeah. Yeah, did you hire 1671 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 1: him or work with him? He was here, Yeah, the 1672 01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,800 Speaker 1: manager here in Miami. Um, when we got here, and 1673 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, so my entire time here as the manager, 1674 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 1: and you went zero in five and you first major 1675 01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 1: league game over five. Yeah, I thought they were gonna 1676 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: send me down after one game. I did my twenty 1677 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,800 Speaker 1: year career. Every time I took the field, I thought 1678 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: I was playing to keep my job every time. That's crazy. 1679 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 1: I knew every time we dropped to the short stop, 1680 01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,160 Speaker 1: I knew what they were doing and always felt as 1681 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,360 Speaker 1: though I was trying to keep my job. So you should. 1682 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 1: You never get comfortable. She never get comfortable. The a 1683 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,559 Speaker 1: raw thing had to like, I know he's spoken earlier, 1684 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,880 Speaker 1: but he was a shortstop and then for the Yankees 1685 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 1: acquiring him, did he downgrade to take third base or 1686 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,240 Speaker 1: that was a decision that y'all guys came up with. 1687 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't a part of the decision making process, you know, um, 1688 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,560 Speaker 1: But that was the agreement before he came, prior to 1689 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,160 Speaker 1: him coming that he's gonna play third he'say, and you 1690 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 1: were cool with that. Keep it real, I'm not, but 1691 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 1: back then yeah, yeah, no, I mean no, I mean 1692 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna help us win. Like, ultimately, I don't care 1693 01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,439 Speaker 1: what your feelings are about any particular person you play with. 1694 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 1: If you're there to win. I have no problems with you, 1695 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:56,120 Speaker 1: none whatsoever. It helped us. Yeah, yeah, that you played 1696 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,679 Speaker 1: with that didn't like personally, but you still of course 1697 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 1: a lot of them. Man, there's a lot of personalities. Man, 1698 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,320 Speaker 1: there's there's egos. There's the only issue I had with 1699 01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 1: people if I felt this though, the winning wasn't their 1700 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,480 Speaker 1: number one priority. If that's not your number one priority, 1701 01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,800 Speaker 1: I have a problem with you. I'll tell you I 1702 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,320 Speaker 1: have a problem. I don't have to do it publicly. 1703 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 1: I can do it privately. I can do it one 1704 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,920 Speaker 1: on one. You know, one thing I've said it before. 1705 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 1: Athletes know when the cameras are all you gotta do 1706 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,000 Speaker 1: is look for the red light. You know which cameras 1707 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,640 Speaker 1: on you at all times. You play long enough, you 1708 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,280 Speaker 1: know where they're coming from. So all you gotta do 1709 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 1: is look. And then you see a lot of times 1710 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,760 Speaker 1: they'll go over. Athletes to go over and they'll start 1711 01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 1: talking to a particular teammate. They know the camera's on them. 1712 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,240 Speaker 1: I didn't give a damn about a camera. I can 1713 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,240 Speaker 1: pull you aside and talk to you individually. You know, 1714 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 1: there's different ways. You didn't deal with personalities. You talk 1715 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 1: about leadership. You gotta get to know the people you're leading, 1716 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, I said that, man, some people you yelling, 1717 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 1: scream at you get the best out of them. Are 1718 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 1: the guys you gotta give him a hug. Right, You 1719 01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,120 Speaker 1: can't yell at certain people in a big group ever 1720 01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:01,840 Speaker 1: get the best out of him, right, you know you 1721 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,560 Speaker 1: gotta pull him aside. So I you know, just you 1722 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get to know people, man, you really 1723 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:11,320 Speaker 1: do have to get to know people. Read something. You 1724 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,519 Speaker 1: thought you thought you was in trouble with the boss 1725 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,680 Speaker 1: when he made you the captain. Yeah, yeah, I was. 1726 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,280 Speaker 1: Every every off season I'd meet with the boss. Right. 1727 01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 1: We lived in Tampa. He told me the same thing, 1728 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 1: I need to lead the team. And he said, you know, 1729 01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about you being at a 1730 01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,479 Speaker 1: birthday party till four o'clock in the morning. Right, I 1731 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,639 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but you have one birthday party 1732 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,559 Speaker 1: a year, that's right. Nothing different. Because he had said 1733 01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 1: that same thing to the media. So I lived in Tampa. 1734 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,800 Speaker 1: I worked out the complex every offseason. I'm leaving a 1735 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,439 Speaker 1: complex and in a particular reporter asked me, are you 1736 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:50,879 Speaker 1: doing anything different this year? Absolutely? Not got here in November, 1737 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:52,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks after the season, working out getting 1738 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: ready for the season. They turned that into the headline 1739 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 1: was party on. So I refused to change my party 1740 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,800 Speaker 1: in ways to please the boss. So I met with 1741 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 1: the Boss. We got into it, going back and forth. 1742 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling, like I told you before, he would test 1743 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,680 Speaker 1: his players. So yeah, I say, look, man, you started this, 1744 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,439 Speaker 1: you gotta fix it. He's yelling at me. We're going 1745 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,800 Speaker 1: back and forth. We didn't speak for a few weeks. 1746 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,680 Speaker 1: I dislocated my shoulder. I was in Tampa and the 1747 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm working out to rehab. That's when we filmed this 1748 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 1: visa commercial with me and the Boss going through a 1749 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,400 Speaker 1: conga line in their love and then I went back 1750 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 1: to New York. Eight weeks later. It was Hideki Matt 1751 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 1: Suey's first year player, coming from Japan. He lived in 1752 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,120 Speaker 1: my building. We had the next day off. I invite 1753 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,760 Speaker 1: all my teammates over for dinner. We go out to 1754 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,320 Speaker 1: a club of New York. Next day, I'm on the 1755 01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,559 Speaker 1: front page of the paper. It says it's four am 1756 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,120 Speaker 1: and Derek's out in the picture. Now in the article 1757 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mention any of the twelve teammates, but I was 1758 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,040 Speaker 1: with It was just me get a phone call saying, 1759 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,799 Speaker 1: the boss wants to speak to you. Damn, I'm in trouble. 1760 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,000 Speaker 1: And that's when he named me the captain. So he's 1761 01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 1: probably like, this guy just doesn't give a ship what 1762 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: I say. He's gonna do whatever he wants. So yeah, 1763 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 1: that's when he named me. But it worked out. I 1764 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,120 Speaker 1: thought I was in trouble. Yeah, it worked the funk out. 1765 01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,799 Speaker 1: Oh ship, this has got so great ship any future 1766 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,519 Speaker 1: plans to own another team? Ship, you got some money 1767 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:32,519 Speaker 1: for me. It looked like you didn't enjoy you. You 1768 01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,360 Speaker 1: know what it felt like to me, Um, when you 1769 01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,240 Speaker 1: became the owner. It's like, you know, you ever see 1770 01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,400 Speaker 1: the people that's on the sidelines and they were like, 1771 01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah yo, and then they actually get to play 1772 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,680 Speaker 1: in the game, and they felt like once you be 1773 01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 1: tasted some ownership, I felt like you didn't like it. 1774 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm outside of looking it. Look I enjoyed building a team. 1775 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,479 Speaker 1: I did. I enjoyed building. I didn't enjoy losing. You know, 1776 01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,880 Speaker 1: I never played on a team that had a losing record. 1777 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,240 Speaker 1: In twenty years. We never lost. I shouldn't say we 1778 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,960 Speaker 1: never lost. We never had a losing record. Um so 1779 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,719 Speaker 1: we lost quite a bit here in a few years. 1780 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,000 Speaker 1: But you're gonna have everyone on the same page, man, 1781 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:13,800 Speaker 1: I guess it's the best way to put. Everyone's got 1782 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,280 Speaker 1: to be on the same page. If not, it's just 1783 01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:19,960 Speaker 1: not gonna work. So no, I don't. I don't see myself. 1784 01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 1: You didn't know you didn't like ownership. I didn't like 1785 01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,120 Speaker 1: how it ended up. Did you have some of the 1786 01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 1: balls in you as owner? I in terms of expectations, Yeah, 1787 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,560 Speaker 1: but I gave the players their space, you know. I 1788 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,360 Speaker 1: gave them that's your space, you know, because I knew 1789 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 1: as a player, you don't want to see members of 1790 01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 1: the front office in the clubhouse. Get out of here. 1791 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,560 Speaker 1: How do you say, get out of here? You're not 1792 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: supposed to be here. Um so I gave him their space. 1793 01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,880 Speaker 1: So so you understood the beef that you had with 1794 01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,760 Speaker 1: George back? Did Did it make you understood that more 1795 01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:03,160 Speaker 1: if you're you came to owner. Yeah, but I wouldn't 1796 01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,360 Speaker 1: necessarily say we had beef because we had the same 1797 01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:14,120 Speaker 1: mindset from right. So so I didn't have any issues 1798 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,479 Speaker 1: with him, Like I said, my only issues during my 1799 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:23,000 Speaker 1: career and still to this day. If people don't expect excellence, right, 1800 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,840 Speaker 1: and you're not willing to do what it takes to 1801 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:30,280 Speaker 1: be successful, right, I have a problem with you. Um 1802 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 1: if that's not the case, I really do taking a 1803 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 1: shot for that for no reason. Where is this the 1804 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:45,400 Speaker 1: rock guy? Goddamn it? Oh you got Oh my god? Okay, 1805 01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,200 Speaker 1: we all here. Paula John sees a salad. You know, 1806 01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 1: Jared Jared calls working at Carbone playing like, yeah, if 1807 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:55,880 Speaker 1: you're nobody gonna clap on your back when you had 1808 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,040 Speaker 1: a home run, because that's the expect it's supposed to. Hello, 1809 01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,640 Speaker 1: is that bad or good thing? That's a good things? 1810 01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,760 Speaker 1: You don't want people to expect you to be to 1811 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:11,320 Speaker 1: be a failure. It's crazy because we we just we 1812 01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,040 Speaker 1: just had Kevin hart Shack and now we got the 1813 01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 1: captain and no one has called me and said, good job. 1814 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Ain't coming off a win and we just wanted to 1815 01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 1: be to awarding. By the way, you're talking to award winners. 1816 01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,200 Speaker 1: First I felt that I was like, damn, no one 1817 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,599 Speaker 1: called me to congratulate me. But then I said, let 1818 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,840 Speaker 1: me look at it the bright side. They expect that 1819 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:46,479 Speaker 1: from me or right, you want to that that together together, 1820 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 1: that's where you keep Yeah. Yeah he was he was 1821 01:49:54,160 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 1: born no choice, Yeah, his parents failure. What shot? Did 1822 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,519 Speaker 1: I know for that brief time where they said, um, 1823 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 1: go shop you deal shot shot? Did you did you? 1824 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 1: Did you think that? After that? I was told to 1825 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 1: you because I know you said prior to to them, 1826 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,120 Speaker 1: you didn't want to negotiate with any other team. But 1827 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 1: after they said to you, well go go go shop ship. 1828 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,280 Speaker 1: Was there any team that did reach out to you? 1829 01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't want to. I don't want 1830 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,800 Speaker 1: to know loyal like you really didn't you? So you 1831 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,640 Speaker 1: you told your agent because I'm sure with Milwokee, I 1832 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I really don't. I don't know if anyone 1833 01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: was interested. I really don't know. I don't want to 1834 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:56,360 Speaker 1: hear about it. So they oh, I'm taking shot for 1835 01:50:56,439 --> 01:51:04,960 Speaker 1: you ave yo. That's the real cameras off. Oh my god, 1836 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 1: So a little bit. This is to you loyalty, realness 1837 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 1: and happiness. I see you happy, pick up, to your 1838 01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 1: lovely wife, your children. Um, every time I see you 1839 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,000 Speaker 1: out and about you with them, I'm usually with my 1840 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,719 Speaker 1: wife too. She has something to do, but she wants 1841 01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,280 Speaker 1: to be here. Big dry Fair big Yankee fan. Her father. 1842 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 1: She didn't have no choice her father forster to being 1843 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:37,000 Speaker 1: a Yankee fan. So um, so to you, my brother, 1844 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:45,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having Thank you everyone take the picture. Yeah, 1845 01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,400 Speaker 1: because not for real, you didn't have to do this. 1846 01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,200 Speaker 1: So coming down tonight it really it really boosting my morale. 1847 01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,839 Speaker 1: You're making me a better leader, You're making me the captain. 1848 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,600 Speaker 1: Can you say? I'm the captain? All right? Everyone's a 1849 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 1: captain of their own ship. The oldest, my oldest, my 1850 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: five year old, told me the other day, so, Daddy, 1851 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm the captain and that I don't talk to her 1852 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,639 Speaker 1: about it. Someone who We went out to get coffee 1853 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:19,720 Speaker 1: and like, and it's just me and her, so I 1854 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: I try to take each one of them by them 1855 01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,880 Speaker 1: so they love to be by themselves. So we're sitting 1856 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,920 Speaker 1: outside having coffee and spand of like five minutes three 1857 01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,519 Speaker 1: people went by, what's up, cap with's up? Captain and 1858 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,200 Speaker 1: captain And she's like, dadny, why are they calling you 1859 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,560 Speaker 1: the captain. I tried to explain it to her, and 1860 01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,320 Speaker 1: then later in the day to daddy, I'm the captain, captain, 1861 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:42,880 Speaker 1: and I see you right, it's right, drop me good 1862 01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:48,040 Speaker 1: take you so much again, thanks for joining us for 1863 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,800 Speaker 1: another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, d 1864 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,320 Speaker 1: j e f F and n O r E. Please 1865 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 1: make sure to follow us on all our socials. 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