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Speaker 3: Oh, welcome in to the Sam Donald Show with my

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Speaker 3: best friend Sam Darnald. Gy love being here.

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Speaker 1: Worst super Bowl ever, worst super Bowl ever? Your just

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Speaker 1: for you is the yeah for you? Not for America ever.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that I'm gonna call you xenophobic? This is the

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Speaker 1: worst blaming your hate sure to bad Bunny.

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Speaker 4: This? How about that?

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith hates Bad Bunny, worst super Bowl ever, calls

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Speaker 1: it worst super Bowl ever?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yuck.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can just like I could you attribute that

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Speaker 1: to you? But I don't think that doesn't matter. I'll

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Speaker 1: just contribute it to you. You know I I you know,

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Speaker 1: landa last week and I said to myself, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I picked the Rams and the Broncos preseason for the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Feeling great.

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Speaker 3: Jason apologized that Sam Darling. Now the way, hang on,

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Speaker 3: hang on, Frostburg, America. I'm tired of hanging on.

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Speaker 4: Hang on.

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Speaker 1: I was feeling really good about those, really good about

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Speaker 1: that pick. I was feeling great, and then this weekend happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got my picks right.

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Speaker 1: And then only because you put it out there to

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Speaker 1: manifest against me.

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Speaker 4: I know that's why you did.

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Speaker 1: It west my financial best interest, because I actually had

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Speaker 1: live bets on both of the other teams.

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Speaker 4: Conference.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you only did that to manifest it to

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Speaker 1: man congratulations because you made it happen because super Bowl ever,

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Speaker 1: that means I am the third of the Mighty Mics

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Speaker 1: this weekend, Michael McDonald, because if we don't have Doobie

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Speaker 1: Brothers all night long, we've failed.

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Speaker 4: We've got Mike, Vrabel and me. All right, I'll put that.

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Speaker 4: That's fine, that's fine. Well I had a fourth today.

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Speaker 1: It's the Four Horsemen because it's the fortieth anniversary of

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Speaker 1: Ditka being carried off. Okay, all right, forty six dead,

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Speaker 1: I'll put. Okay, So then Ditka over Harmon. Who mentioned Ditka?

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Speaker 1: So Harmon comes in fourth with Ditka third. But that's

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Speaker 1: what it was so so get bumped off the metal

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Speaker 1: stand from my own reference, well, we kind of have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the greater of all I mean in

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Speaker 1: this in the skit, Ditka doesn't lose to anybody.

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Speaker 4: No, he can't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't lose to any the entire world. The worst

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Speaker 1: super Bowl I mean, I mean, I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: when I thought about you know, I'm thinking it's it's

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Speaker 4: But are they both really gonna win? Are they are both?

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Speaker 1: They're both they And I'm gonna have to watch as

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Speaker 1: a Jet fan the worst super Bowl that you could

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Speaker 1: ever have in the history of Super Bowls. I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought Giants Patriots was bad. A few years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was at that I was on the sideline for

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Speaker 1: that game, and I had to watch. I thought that

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Speaker 4: First, Jets would be je Do you think anybody would

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Speaker 4: even watch that bad? Every day they battle? They would

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Speaker 4: he would cancel that Super Bowl? Man a line to

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Speaker 4: watch that apologize Civil Wars.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Jets not only to have to watch the

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Speaker 1: Patriots after hey, two decades of a run unlike we

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Speaker 1: have seen in NFL history, right, and they went Okay? Now,

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Speaker 1: they're just like everybody else. They start losing, they fired

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Speaker 1: their coach, they get a new coach. Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: one year the guy shows up four and thirteen. Team, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're flipping that record around. And now we're in the

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Speaker 1: bleeping super Bowl. And you know what, my roster wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: His roster wasn't great, wasn't unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: What did he do?

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Speaker 1: He came in, he did the right things. He banged

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Speaker 1: out dense, he inserted his culture. Well, I watched my

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Speaker 4: No, you don't have to. You don't have to clearly,

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Speaker 4: and he was the coach.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the first year coaches came in and said, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: culture in there. Ben Johnson put his own culture in.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen put his own culture in. Look what happened everything, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we still have the same guys. Don't got to get

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Speaker 1: my guy, Aaron Lynn, who was the culture I know,

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Speaker 1: And I had to watch all of a sudden, Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel now and he's got a power in New England. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: this is worse than the first time around where we

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Speaker 4: This is worse.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other side, I actually started thinking,

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Speaker 1: would it be worse if the Giants were in it? Like, no,

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Speaker 1: it's worse because now I thought, Okay, who am I

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Speaker 1: going to root for the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because I have I have the team that that you know,

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Speaker 1: And then I have then I have the team where, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's our quarterback that we booted out that couldn't get

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Speaker 1: it right for us now, and I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: blame the Jets. Well, I guess I can blame the Jets,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like they didn't give him the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was great. We should actually be

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Speaker 1: more upset with the Vikings what they did, because they

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Speaker 1: kicked him out when he was good. We kicked out

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald when he stunk. So there's that.

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Speaker 3: But now gonna just because of you guys, well proh, sure,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he wore your stink.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly we weren't the right system. It's a long

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Speaker 1: time to wash off a long time. He took him

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Speaker 1: four different places he had to go to, so we had.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, okay, so here says we had

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Speaker 1: to kick him out, all right, and I'm okay, Sam,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, right, Obviously, I'm happy for Sam

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Speaker 1: donalks he was. He was a good dude when he

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Speaker 1: was with the Jets, and all said, had nothing but

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for the guy.

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Speaker 1: And I think, okay, well, if I got to pull

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But then I start thinking, well, am I

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Hand the Super Bowl MVP trophy over to Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: who thanks everybody.

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Speaker 4: They they're going to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about his journey to where he is now, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll mention the Jets, like, how am I

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Speaker 1: going to feel seeing the guy that we drafted third

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Speaker 1: overall and jump to a bunch of different days and

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Speaker 1: finally get it right and not just get it right

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Speaker 1: and have a good career. But when the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: then I realized that might depress me even more than

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Speaker 1: watching Vrabel and Drake may Like, like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I thought, for sure, Okay, I'm gonna obviously lean the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks because the Patriots, I'm you know, I've been They've

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Speaker 1: But the Seahawks, Okay, yeah, that's great. But I realized

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Speaker 1: Darnald holding up the the Super Bowl Trophy, the Lombardy

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Speaker 1: depress me even more. Yeah, I think super Bowls are

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Speaker 1: on an NBC, so it would be Collinsworth And the

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Speaker 1: running joke is that he'd be making cracks about Sam

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Speaker 1: compared to Patrick Mahomes, Maybe because he loves him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: so sure, I remember when he called Josh Allen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes out a play. But you look at the

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Speaker 1: opportunity here for you as a sports fan and the

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Speaker 4: But it's the.

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Speaker 1: Convergence of all all bad things. And you could say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald took him four more teams before it really

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Speaker 1: got right. Now, if you wanted to talk about wor

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Denver would have won that game, because then

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Speaker 1: we might have had a repeat of a decade ago

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe that very well could have happened.

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Speaker 1: And if Sean Payton had kicked the field goal, we

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Speaker 1: you know, the game is what it is. Second half

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Speaker 1: But for you, I I understand the vexation and the

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Speaker 4: Now, Drake may imperfect.

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Speaker 1: And this playing this game as we're watching it that

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Speaker 1: the most laughable thing ever was the how Romo assessed

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Speaker 1: Drake May carrying the ball for that first down of

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Speaker 1: how gutsy risky whatever. It's like, No, no, risky would have

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Speaker 4: And he said he he audible anybody exactly. I was

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Speaker 4: thinking about telling you, but I didn't want to tell anybody.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna keep the fake great pretends to fake.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he didn't tell anybody. That's what the linemen

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Speaker 1: was the safest play of it all. Don't put the

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Speaker 1: thing is is tough. There's there's no question. Hard man,

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Speaker 1: I thought it would be able to be. Yeah, hey

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Speaker 1: go Sam, go Sam. No, Now, I'm like, no, you Jets,

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Speaker 1: like we told you, you tried to sell this all year,

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Speaker 1: tried to sell it all last year, because you tried

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Speaker 1: to sell it all last year when he was in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: in a completely different conference, in a different world, in

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Speaker 1: a different.

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Speaker 4: Land from your Jets. And then he bounces and he replaces.

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith, and here he is is it because to

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Speaker 1: think just I don't know that I've ever been as

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Speaker 1: close to the Super Bowl as seeing a guy that

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Speaker 1: we dragged to be our franchise and you should own it,

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Speaker 1: like I do buy Hall of Famers and hoist the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl Trophy with somebody else.

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Speaker 4: But Andrew Jones is a White Sox Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: I have Sam Darnold can be that Jets legend for you.

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Speaker 4: I uh, yeah, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't gotten to that point where where I

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Speaker 1: Think about it was It would be even worse if

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Speaker 3: This might be the saddest segment you've ever done.

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Speaker 4: Dude. It is sad, man, It's You're thrown out there

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Speaker 4: One person? Absolutely nobody feels bad for you at all.

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Speaker 1: You earned this super How did I earn this? A

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Speaker 3: I can't even a lifetime of bashing Super Bowl bound

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean to be fair.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for twelve years you've foisted your Jets fandom

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Speaker 1: After the fumble, Uh, you also had everybody in the

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Speaker 1: Can we can we we can trade the other guy, right,

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Speaker 1: narratives start to go, and obviously Smith's living and dying

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Speaker 1: looking at all pictures of Sam Darnold. But on the

439
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Speaker 1: New England side of it, you know, the negativity you're

440
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: surrounding their strength of schedule and everything else, Like, what

441
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: else are they supposed to do? They bludgeoned a bunch

442
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: of bad teams and security mister Smith's jets to get here.

443
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: And if the schedule opens up and you don't lose

444
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 1: the war of attrition, how are you to be blamed

445
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Speaker 1: for that?

446
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Speaker 5: No? I mean, look, you don't. No one's gonna decide

447
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 5: not to show up. The team players couldn't Land, you know,

448
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 5: in a week and they're all going to be on

449
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 5: it and it's going to be a super Bowl week.

450
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Speaker 5: And no, you don't.

451
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Speaker 7: But I mean I had learning. If I said it

452
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 7: doesn't still give me a reservation even though anything's played

453
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 7: out in the playoffs where it's not even just stit them,

454
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 7: it's it's stit them in up what turns out to

455
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 7: be a snowstorm. You know, it's it's CJ. Stroud on

456
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 7: a day where I really think they might have lost

457
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 7: to Davis Middle because their quarterback wasn't great, but Cj'stroud

458
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 7: who was still got awful. And the week before that

459
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 7: it was the Chargers. Literally, you know, they didn't have

460
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 7: an offensive line in that game. And the Patriots deserve

461
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Speaker 7: credit for all this, and like, again, you can't take

462
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 7: this away from them, but I think this is about

463
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Speaker 7: to be a major step up in white class.

464
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking the same thing, Jay, But it's

465
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Speaker 1: hard for me to sit back and go, well, every

466
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Speaker 1: single game you can point to and say the Patriots weren't.

467
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Speaker 4: Supposed to win. What happened they wound up winning? I

468
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 4: mean is that?

469
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Speaker 1: I mean they've been doing it the entire not supposed

470
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Speaker 1: to win this game play, Nope, won that, not supposed

471
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Speaker 1: to win this one, No won that, not suppose like

472
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: they've done not supposed to do it all the way

473
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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. It's hard for me to think

474
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Speaker 1: that in the end they're really going to not find

475
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: a way In a couple of weeks it's hard.

476
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Speaker 5: I mean, well, they're really not supposed to do it

477
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 5: because I think if you go back and look at

478
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Speaker 5: their money line in their money line favorite quart bit,

479
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like and even I mean, well,

480
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 5: they're not supposed to be gender. I don't know, I

481
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: remember it opening it even though they're the road team

482
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Speaker 5: of five and a half point favorite.

483
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Speaker 7: And they dip it a little bit, but they were

484
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Speaker 7: still a favorite, you know what I mean?

485
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Speaker 4: They yeah, but I mean they're coming in.

486
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Speaker 5: They're not going against the Chargers.

487
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Speaker 7: Like I'm just saying.

488
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Speaker 5: They're big wins like the Ravens. I mean, I don't

489
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Speaker 5: think they might not. They weren't the favorite against the Ravens,

490
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Speaker 5: but I mean the Ravens were fugazy. They're about to

491
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Speaker 5: fire their coach, right, I'm just going That's.

492
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Speaker 4: What I mean. I feel.

493
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's like all these things, well, they

494
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Speaker 1: shouldn't win this one, but the Ravens are going to

495
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Speaker 1: fire their coach. They were a mess that the Chargers

496
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Speaker 1: have no way to protect Justin Herbert. All of a sudden, CJ.

497
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Speaker 1: Stroud puts up two games in a row that he's

498
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Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the NFL. And now bow Knicks

499
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: gets hurt. Like it seems it's all falling in line

500
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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. I can't believe it's not gonna fall

501
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Speaker 1: in line for them one more time.

502
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Speaker 5: Ooh yeah.

503
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, maybe I think they're gonna need a

504
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 7: whole lot more on the quarterback. Like everybody talking about

505
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Speaker 7: what they've done defensively, and that's great, but they're about

506
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Speaker 7: to face a team that's gonna push the ball downfield

507
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 7: unlike anything they seem. I mean, even the Texans game,

508
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 7: Nico Collins didn't play, you know what I mean, and

509
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 7: then it became a blizzard like and they played the

510
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Speaker 7: wrong quarterback in the second half, Like, I don't know.

511
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Speaker 7: That's a big boy offense from Seattle, and it's a

512
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 7: defense that Frankly, who's winning against that defense? Like you're

513
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Speaker 7: telling me's Deefon David and bouts A and freaking Hunter

514
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 7: Henry are gonna win against that defense.

515
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Speaker 5: I don't believe you. Like I just I'm sorry. I

516
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 5: don't like either running back is winning against the teacher.

517
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Speaker 5: I mean, they're gonna run Drake May twenty times. I

518
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 5: mean they probably should, like that's how they stay in game.

519
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 5: I mean waiting for the second half to run in.

520
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 5: It's silly, like that's their offic It's to me a

521
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 5: bit of a junk offense right now, like it's it's streetball,

522
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's and that's worked to this point,

523
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Speaker 5: and it was enough, you know, on a day where

524
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Speaker 5: Stidham wasn't going to put up anything after one detriw

525
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 5: the mimes or whatever like okay, and Stroud put up nothing,

526
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Speaker 5: and that's then Herbert always melts down in the playoffs.

527
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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I think this is where the

528
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 5: story ends. I think one of these team things is

529
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Speaker 5: not like the other. But I'm not dismissing what New

530
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 5: England's done to get here, and clearly New England's had

531
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Speaker 5: the secret sauce.

532
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Speaker 7: But I think again, I think this isn't going to

533
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Speaker 7: be different even Seattle Special teams than what they get

534
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 7: out of the turn game. Rus As says the Seheed trade.

535
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Speaker 5: I just think it's come to too much.

536
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Speaker 1: Four and a half point favorites, as we said here,

537
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: now forty five and a half the total, plenty of

538
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Speaker 1: time to go. And then obviously I say play word association.

539
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Speaker 1: I say, Sam Darnald, what say you?

540
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: I mean revenge, reformed, redire. I like that revitalized. Good

541
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Speaker 5: for him, man, I had to see to believe it.

542
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you.

543
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Speaker 7: And part of the reason I leaned to their answer

544
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 7: was just that Donald factor and would he especially against that.

545
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Speaker 7: And I'm not a big crystal guy, but he had

546
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 7: difficulty with that defense. He had difficulty with that defense

547
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 7: when he was in Minnesota. So I just wondered if

548
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 7: he would make a critical mistake. If he didn't, then

549
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 7: the next people up on my list to do so

550
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 7: would have been Rams special teams.

551
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Speaker 5: And you know what I got trained. Now, that's a

552
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Speaker 5: train that's always all the time. Yeah, that you know,

553
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 5: you could set you you could set your plot to

554
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Speaker 5: that one. That's the midnight out of Munich going to

555
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 5: Berlin overnight. That that thing's on time, eight days a week.

556
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, Like there were two.

557
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Speaker 7: Things in that game that I thought could be double

558
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Speaker 7: A and whichever one showed.

559
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 5: Up was going to be different. Will it be Sam

560
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: Darnold in the red jone for Seattle or will it

561
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: be somebody on punt return kickoff return kickoff coverage? You know,

562
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: would they get a field goal block for a touchdown?

563
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: The other way, like what will the Rams do to

564
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: conspire against the Rams from a special team stand point?

565
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 5: And well, that was probably the season.

566
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Speaker 4: You know, I just for the Rams real fast.

567
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Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot of questions about Matthew Stafford and

568
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen next year, and he didn't want

569
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Speaker 1: to commit to anything in the postgame, and I get

570
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: it right after the game is over. But I got

571
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Speaker 1: to think, Jay, this is going to be the same

572
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Speaker 1: thing Matthew Safford's done the last couple of off seasons

573
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Speaker 1: b KG try to find a way to get more

574
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Speaker 1: money and then announce he's coming back and coming off

575
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Speaker 1: the year he's going to win the MVP. He's going

576
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Speaker 1: to get a lot more money, and the Rams are

577
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Speaker 1: going to have to do something for So I just

578
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: think this is this is all part of the negotiation

579
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: with Stafford. Yeah, And I.

580
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: Mean, look, he can take I think.

581
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Speaker 7: We've seen things sort of evolve in this game and

582
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 7: what really matters and what doesn't. And I know that

583
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 7: we've turned OTAs into e U. We're taking attendance and

584
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 7: we're upsetting about who's got callses that make them show

585
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 7: up in Othas and who doesn't, but it's faked football.

586
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy's an extension on McVeigh at this point.

587
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 7: And you know what, they probably need to get a

588
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 7: better look at the kid from.

589
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: Georgia, you know what I mean. Whoever, like they do

590
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: need to.

591
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 7: Have a next person out there. And so yeah, like

592
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 7: even the Aaron Rogerston last year where he had never

593
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 7: been there before, he never worked with Arthur Smith before,

594
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 7: he had never been Afittsburgh stealer before. You know, when

595
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 7: he signs right before our mini camp. And I'm not

596
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 7: saying it was great, and I almost thought would be great,

597
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 7: but it was still functional enough right to get into

598
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Speaker 7: the playoffs and win a division.

599
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't think you need to worry about

600
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: And look, there's a pretty decent chance that backs and

601
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: a lot better shape this offseason than whatever was going

602
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Speaker 5: on last offseason.

603
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: So I think they still need help on defense, you know,

604
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think I know there's been this anointing

605
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 7: of Chris Schuler, but that defensive roaded in the second

606
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 7: half against the run and against the pass, and you know,

607
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: Emmanuel Forbes and some of those things, like they were

608
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 7: great value signings and they did the trick, but you know,

609
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 7: I think I think it's going to get a little

610
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 7: better on the back end and that will allow them

611
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 7: to be a little bit more aggressive with the pass rushers.

612
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Speaker 5: And we're saying all that.

613
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Speaker 7: I still think they were the best team in the

614
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 7: NFL this year, but you know that's not going to.

615
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: Amount that's gonna not amount to anything because they found

616
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: ways to lose too many games this should have won.

617
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: Find their way to the outs.

618
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Speaker 1: All right, real quick, you're out there on the East coast,

619
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens.

620
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Speaker 4: You got a new head coach.

621
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Speaker 1: Is anybody actually going to take the OC job with

622
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens.

623
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. It's a critical hire. Jefse Mentor.

624
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 7: I thought he the head coach of the Ravens before

625
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 7: Horball was black.

626
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: It was. It was pretty pretty well telegraphed. But the

627
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: question was going to be who can you put around

628
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: him to intubate him and let him focus on the

629
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: things he doesn't do naturally, which is everything about that

630
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: job other than call plays for the defense on Sunday.

631
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Speaker 5: And I got news for you. The head coach is

632
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: responsibilities on Sunday right beyond calling plays for a defense.

633
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: So I think it's like I think Brian Dable was

634
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 5: a guy that I would be trying to move heaven

635
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: and Earth to get. I think he's an option, and

636
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: then everything after that is not the same. I mean

637
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: recent head coaching experience, doing it in New York, doing

638
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: it on you know, in a very public way. Some

639
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: of his missteps were very public too, but that's what

640
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 5: you learned. You learn from the mistakes as much as

641
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: you learn from your successes. And I think they need

642
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: multiple thing, somebody on the defensive side of the building

643
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: who's been a head coach before. And I damn sure

644
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 5: I think the OC or the special teams coach should

645
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: have been someone who at least has been an interim

646
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: head coach, which has had some experience walking in front

647
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: of fifty three guys or sixty one.

648
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Speaker 7: With the practice squad or whatever, and you know, preparing

649
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 7: a whole team for a week, not just one side

650
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 7: of the ball, practice schedules and logistics, and guys have

651
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 7: family issues and all that. There's just so much that

652
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 7: goes into being a head coach that honestly has nothing

653
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 7: to do with calling defensive place for three hours on

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Speaker 7: a Sunday afternoon, which is why he's getting hired. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think the totality of that staff is going to

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Speaker 7: be a big deal. And Jesse Minter never put a

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Speaker 7: staff together, and.

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Speaker 5: Eric Ticosta medals and everything in that building and it's

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Speaker 5: all under his offices. But I got news for you.

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Speaker 5: He can't put a good enough personnel staff together. You

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Speaker 5: don't have a cookie staff. But now he's going to

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Speaker 5: do it. Oh yeah, And the team president of SASCI

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Speaker 5: Brown rumble enough to remember what Owen sixteen is the

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Speaker 5: general manager of the Cleveland Brown, so god speed.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, he's on Twitter at Jason Locke and

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Speaker 1: FORA that is at Jason Locke and FORA one oh

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Speaker 1: five seven the fan in Baltimore Wanna Bet Honesty Washington

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Speaker 1: host and on YouTube watching all of Pete Alonzo's best

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Speaker 1: home runs of the Mets, envisioning them for his Baltimore Orioles.

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Speaker 1: Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: How are going see everybody there? You go?

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Speaker 1: Always great stuff with Jason Lock and for at Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world of sports? From Special Delivery Steve the Sega SB

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Speaker 1: what do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: As you mentioned Super Bowl coming up a week from Sunday,

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Speaker 8: and it's Drake May facing a Seattle defense. It was

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Speaker 8: not just top scoring defense, only allowing seventeen points a game,

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Speaker 8: number six in total defense and the playoff run he's had,

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Speaker 8: Drake May. They just beat the Broncos, who were number

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Speaker 8: two in total defense this year, the Texans who were

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Speaker 8: number one, and the Chargers, who had the number five

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Speaker 8: total defense. No quarterback had ever defeated three top five

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Speaker 8: defenses in a single postseason, and he largely did it

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Speaker 8: on the ground. He's getting sacked a ton, there are turnovers,

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Speaker 8: but in the regular season, New England, with that sched

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Speaker 8: Jill had faced just one top five defense.

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Speaker 4: The Browns in Week number eight.

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Speaker 8: We've got coaching news to pass along as the Lions

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Speaker 8: are hiring Mike Kafka as an offensive assistant. He was

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Speaker 8: Giants interim head coach. SNYTV reports the Jets are working

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Speaker 8: on a deal with Frank Reich, who was Stanford interim

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Speaker 8: coach this past year, to be on the Jets offensive staff.

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Speaker 8: Washington or to be the quarterback. He's only sixty four.

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Speaker 8: He could also play quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Just got to put in that video with a big

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Speaker 1: comeback against the Oilers from Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: The stuff of legends.

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Speaker 4: I just saw a documentary on that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: By the way, as he was talking, Jason was talking about,

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Speaker 8: you know, you need a veteran head coach, somebody with

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Speaker 8: the defensive background. So what I'm reading into that is

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Speaker 8: Pete Carroll's going to get hired.

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Speaker 9: By the Ravens, right, yes, exactly, and all will be well,

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Speaker 9: and then I'll hire a stun his offensive line coach

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Speaker 9: and onto the Super Bowl or not. Washington's new defensive

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Speaker 9: coordinator is Deronte Jones, who was Minnesota's defensive backs coach.

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Speaker 9: Of the Chargers officially hired Mike McDaniels offensive courseator, and

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Speaker 9: the Chargers gave defensive tackle Tier tarda three year extension.

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Speaker 9: Quarterback Shador Sanders will be in next week's Pro Bowl

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Speaker 9: Flag football game, replacing Drake May, and quarterback Jared Goff

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Speaker 9: will replace Sam Darnold. Bill's tight end Dalton Kincaid replaces

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Speaker 9: Travis Kelcey, and Seattle return man Rashid Shaheed is being

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Speaker 9: replaced by the Cowboys Cavante Turpin. ACC football will hold

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Speaker 9: its championship game at noon Eastern Time in December instead

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Speaker 9: of at night, opposite the Big Ten final. The Big

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Speaker 9: Twelve championship game is moving to a Friday night. The

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Speaker 9: ACC today released its schedule for twenty twenty six. Bill

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Speaker 9: Belichick's North Carolina team will open in Dublin against TCU,

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Speaker 9: and there's an NC State versus Virginia matchup in Rio.

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Speaker 9: Most of the ACC teams are playing nine conference games

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Speaker 9: this year. The San Francisco Giants gave centerfielder Harrison Bader

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Speaker 9: a two year deal. At the Australian Open tonight, Number

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Speaker 9: one Arena Sabolenka advanced on the ladies' side. In the NBA,

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Speaker 9: The Lakers won at Chicago one twenty nine, one to

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Speaker 9: eighteen Player of the Week in the West, Luka Doncic

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Speaker 9: had forty six points eleven assists. Tonight at Cleveland, Donovan

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Speaker 9: Mitchell forty five points in a Cabs win over Orlando

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Speaker 9: one fourteen ninety eight. Daytime victory is at home for

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Speaker 9: Atlanta and Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: Game times for those.

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Speaker 8: Two were moved up due to weather and in the NHL,

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Speaker 8: the LA at Columbus game was postponed by severe weather.

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Speaker 8: New York Rangers be Boston and overtime for to three.

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Speaker 8: By the way, in the NBA, right now, Minnesota, even

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Speaker 8: without Anthony Edwards tonight and his bedfoot, Minnesota has a

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Speaker 8: halftime lead on what's left of Golden State fifty three

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Speaker 8: thirty eight Draymond Green out with a sore bag. Steph

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Speaker 8: Curry out with a sore knee. Golden State doing its

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Speaker 8: forty nine ers impersonation on the rush.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, rick Berry has eighteen so far. I

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Speaker 4: just want to see him at the foul line. He

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Speaker 4: is perfectly from the federal line.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, he is perfect Underhead's working great? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Steve, Jason Smith, Mike Harman, lot from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios. Well, coming off the AFC and

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship games, you didn't think we'd get a more

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Speaker 1: shot fucking headline on Monday in the NFL, but we did.

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Speaker 4: What is it that's next? Right here, Jake.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: We have the most surprising NFL story of the weekend

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Speaker 1: coming up in a minute. But first it's the Play

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Speaker 1: of the day should be Luka dancicen his forty six

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Speaker 1: point night tonight and the Lakers win over the Bulls. However,

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Speaker 1: I believe Frostburg is making an exception for this.

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Speaker 10: JSN now comes into the backfield, Sam out of the shotgun.

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Speaker 4: He looks, steps throws back.

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Speaker 2: Carter touchdown, say Hawks.

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Speaker 10: Jayes and on the left side, wide open, and you'll

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Speaker 10: love to see defensive back stop and look at each

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Speaker 10: other and.

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Speaker 5: Say, who the hell was supposed to cover you?

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Speaker 10: I think Sam Darnold now goes under center with Walker

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Speaker 10: behind him. Fight outs to both sides, play fake. Donald

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Speaker 10: looks now he's gonna throw back.

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Speaker 4: To the end of fits can cuts down, Say Hawks.

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Speaker 6: Jake Boobo might have been the third.

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Speaker 10: Guy in the progression, but he lines up left side,

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Speaker 10: gets under the goalpost, and Sam Jeff throws a rope out.

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Speaker 4: This here comes the four mat Rams rush. Sam steps up,

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Speaker 4: goes back inside, come.

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Speaker 6: Make the catch, touchdown, Sayhawks.

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Speaker 8: The former Ram Super.

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Speaker 4: Bowl MVP now the Seahawks, and he has another big Cats.

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Speaker 3: We're just preparing you for Super Bowl, Sung, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you are. I'm sure you're preparing me. I'm sure boiling

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Speaker 3: you up, baby.

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Speaker 4: Getting ready like I'm gonna go shoot another beach volleyball

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Speaker 4: scene and top gun ready to go, playing with the balls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah sure, either that or yeah we got our grease fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we played volleyball and Jean Shorts is that what

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing on this. So there's your play of the day,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks Radio Network everything. Sam Donald from a day ago

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Speaker 1: playing another great game, maybe his best game ever considering

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Speaker 1: the pressure and everything goes along with it. He's had

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Speaker 1: big games the last couple of years. But here he

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Speaker 1: is and now Sam Darnold, former Jets legend, is in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. When you get that forty one yarder

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Speaker 1: to get things started and everybody went, uh, look at him.

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Speaker 1: He's got cold blooded now, just like Matthew Stafford's backing

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Speaker 1: out of me from the off season.

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Speaker 4: How hurt was Sam Donald?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 4: That's the question I have to keep asking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, or conversely, hey, I'll have what he's having,

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Speaker 1: you know, one or the other. Now, what what is

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Speaker 1: more surprising? I'm asking this? Give me honest answer, right,

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Speaker 1: you got gut answer the day Sam Donald had yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Answer? Championship game? Got a visuals or Shadoor Sanders

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Speaker 4: making the Pro Bowl today?

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Speaker 1: I believe in Sam when nobody did surprise. I had

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Speaker 1: some Mike harmon home for wayward quarterbacks. The number of

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Speaker 1: people that are just losing their minds over Shadeur Sanders

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Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl games.

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Speaker 4: It's not even a game games.

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Speaker 1: When I see people on twin, I remember when the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl used to mean something, All, yeah, exactly, the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl games don't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: You're really that upset that Trevor Lawrence said, No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you could have asked a lot of other guys, but

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Speaker 1: you could have asked to what you could have asked

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. It's not like they're you were bereft all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, You're down to a guy that through

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in ten Flacco played for a lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: He was qualified, he played for those breath Look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we understand this is not something brand new with the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, but this shows you that the the hatred

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Speaker 1: that people have for Shador Sanders knows no bounds. You

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Speaker 1: could have put Jackson Dart in the Pro Bowl. People say, oh,

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Speaker 1: what a great pick, He's got a great future. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's awesome, awesome. It just matters what the narrative is.

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Speaker 1: But people have decided, oh, I don't like Shador Sanders. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: does he deserve to be in the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 4: But do I care?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Because the Pro Bowl games, it's carnival games. They're they're,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're doing ring toss and and and

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Speaker 1: trying to win stuffed animals. And the guys they're saying, well,

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Speaker 1: give me another five dollars to give you a chance

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Speaker 1: to win this other big one. Now that that's what

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is, man, I really I can't believe

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Speaker 1: it's this much of a I can't believe the sanctity

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Speaker 1: of the NFL is at stake now because Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: is in the Pro Bowl Games.

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Speaker 4: Games. Yeah, take these three, you could trade up to

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Speaker 4: the bigger prize. No, all of that.

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Speaker 1: And it's something well to ask Jason Cole later on

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Speaker 1: this week, right because once upon a time, the resume

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Speaker 1: and the arguments when you're trying to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame or any of the Halls

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Speaker 1: of Fame, the All Star Games, and in this case,

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls, they used to matter. When was that

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Speaker 1: line of demarcation? Was it when it became officially a

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Speaker 1: flag football game? Or had the sanctity of that been

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Speaker 1: torn off years ago? Now with shad Or Sanders, we

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Speaker 1: all have to remember this. It is still a TV

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Speaker 1: show that they're trying to get people to watch. So

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Speaker 1: for people that get excited that Shadoor Sanders is getting

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Speaker 1: some love here, you.

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Speaker 4: Might have picked up a couple of viewers. For those

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Speaker 4: that don't care, You don't.

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Speaker 1: Care, but straight that yeah, wait, well, because everybody goes

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Speaker 1: to the crutches of you know, some of these metrics,

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Speaker 1: and particularly the quarterback rating, it was like fifty eighth

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Speaker 1: or some right, But who's going to be there and

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Speaker 1: say stuff? And maybe he says something a saying everything else?

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Speaker 4: You pay attention that the Pro Bowl games actually exist.

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Speaker 4: What's two we're gonna say? I need a fresh start.

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Speaker 4: I gotta get out man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you're not even gonna be the quarterback there?

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Speaker 1: What did you really think of Mike McDaniel? What's Gino

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Speaker 1: Smith gonna say?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: He's there? Gina, that's a lot of interceptions. Do you

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Speaker 4: think you'll throw less in the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 10: Here?

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Speaker 4: Hey too, let's play word association. Does he deserve to

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Speaker 4: be that?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, really this we've seen this with the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I mean, let's let's understand that there's there's

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Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry another place. We went to six

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Speaker 1: or seventh alternates for years, Exit OV out of Fresca,

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Speaker 1: Exit swollen dum, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, a.

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Speaker 1: Guy who's gonna think about the conference championship game, one

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Speaker 1: of them, every day for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 4: Fox