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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast once to get a haircut

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's

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Speaker 1: around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am Mystic Damn Hansis and I'm joined by heroes

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Right before we started, Mark was

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Speaker 2: making a joke instead of Cabo. He said Cabo, and

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Speaker 2: everyone freaked behind the glass and in front of it.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm not you know, you know, three times a

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Speaker 3: month traveling outside of the country for some flighty vacation.

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Speaker 2: We were there is this some type of internal gathering

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Speaker 2: here where I think they're going to Cambo, but we

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Speaker 2: weren't even invited.

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Speaker 1: We've got that week.

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Speaker 2: We have now aged out, slashed a slash, kind of

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Speaker 2: been out of the mix up within this building that

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Speaker 2: no one's even checking and kicking the tires on the

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Speaker 2: old heroes whether they.

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Speaker 1: Want to be involved.

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Speaker 3: I don't like what I don't I don't have any

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Speaker 3: problem with not being invited, becaus it makes a lot

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Speaker 3: of sense, but it never is that we wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: any fun, and I don't find that assumption correct. If

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Speaker 3: you put us down and you know, you can fill

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Speaker 3: in the foot on the blank island or locale.

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Speaker 1: I think we could bring fun.

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Speaker 4: Mark trying to rebuild his reputation once the rebound from

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Speaker 4: the tough start of the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say some words differentely have a constantly critique for.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a lot's gone on since we last

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Speaker 2: did a show.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those type things.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rodrigue was a huge hit done around the NFC.

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Speaker 2: We kept telling her, Jill, you're doing great, Listeners are

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Speaker 2: going to love you, and sure enough, like a huge

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Speaker 2: outpouring out there in the Internet that Jordan is.

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Speaker 1: As a killer in studio guest.

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Speaker 2: And we should have her again a groundswell soon, and

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Speaker 2: I believe we will in time. Let's see what else happened.

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Speaker 2: Mark went to the Tom Brady roast. We're going to

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Speaker 2: get to that in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Greggie.

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Speaker 2: I know you like Wrap Drake and Kendrick Lamar. They've

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Speaker 2: been feuding for days. We missed that. We missed that window.

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Speaker 2: We could add so much discourse.

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Speaker 4: For weeks, but we didn't miss it. It sort of

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Speaker 4: was still going as of last night.

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Speaker 2: So this would be well to how he subtly corrected

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Speaker 2: me to let the rap heads know that he gets it.

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Speaker 1: I just say it like it. I actually it did

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Speaker 1: feel like last night was maybe the end of it.

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Speaker 1: So now you know, it's a sight.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we missed, but maybe it's been for weeks.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like right after the show ended, Drake

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Speaker 2: and Kendrick.

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Speaker 1: Yes Thursday night, it was let's yeah, let's turn this.

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Speaker 2: Into a wildfire and put the guys in a tough

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Speaker 2: spot as happens with the news sometimes.

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Speaker 1: That was their main motivation. That was it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, where are you going with this? Because

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Speaker 4: not much football news happened in between. But yes, you know, now.

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Speaker 2: The free agency is in the rear view, the draft

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Speaker 2: is in the rear view, rookie camps underway, OTA's and

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Speaker 2: all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up.

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Speaker 2: What what's left like with these teams when you look

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Speaker 2: at these rosters, they now have their opportunity, these teams,

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Speaker 2: they have their opportunity to.

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Speaker 1: Plug all the holes. But have they That's the question.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to get into teams where there's still

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into that. But but first, but first,

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Speaker 2: anything Greg here, I got you in the corner of

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Speaker 2: my eye. Do you want to lookover.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm good. Let's do some news, Ronk.

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Speaker 3: I've been watching on Fox NFL Sunday and I'm begging

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Speaker 3: you please stop doing your job.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick at the Tom Brady Roast. That's courtesy of Netflix. Mark.

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Speaker 1: What was the vibe there at the Fabulous Forum? It's

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Speaker 3: I was telling Greg beforehand that it reminded me of

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Speaker 3: even when we've gone to whether it's like Thursday night

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Speaker 1: You got these as a gift right to take?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts and maybe whoever got them

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Speaker 1: That's that wasn't my main takeaway.

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Speaker 3: Like I kind of liked, you know, I think the

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely pulled some favors here and gotten probably up.

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Speaker 3: I was actually asked verse why that didn't happen so

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Speaker 1: Let's start there. I know, like six mark this company bigger, bigger.

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Speaker 3: I also, you know, I don't if you get a surprise,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't like it was three hours long, Like there

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Speaker 3: were coaxed up to do a shot together Robert Kraft,

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Speaker 2: Including one that led Tom Brady to actually threaten the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I assume that's like the kind

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Speaker 2: I think that's, yeah, part of the reason why I

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Speaker 2: lot of this post Patriots after glow the productions because

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Speaker 2: I just don't need more Patriots like there's if you're

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Speaker 1: If you don't have any type of complicated.

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Speaker 2: because it's football content. I was perfectly fine with, you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought Belichick, you know, he he had a good

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Speaker 2: also like the Bill Belichick rot, which any the crowd

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Speaker 2: kind of got into. Uh. I have some insider reporting.

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Speaker 2: I want to get out there at a T a.

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Speaker 1: T media insiders insider damn can go to the zoos

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Speaker 1: in the morning, except no substitutes.

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Speaker 2: All right, So being an insider comes with responsibility. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, knowing what to report, knowing what to Holster. The

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Speaker 2: best of us have a whole notepad filled of scoops

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Speaker 2: that we never share. Yeah, it's a dance, I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: And that's for relationships and so much more. I say

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Speaker 2: event that said when Greg reported Bill Belichick would be

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Speaker 2: he was talked into appearing on the show, the program

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Speaker 2: because it was one of the hits of the night

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just want to put it out there.

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Speaker 2: He was there, but it went from him doing it

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Speaker 2: to him we might be losing Bill because of Gregy,

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Speaker 2: on one level, Greg, yes, you have the scoopage. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's great. You want the truth, You go to

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Speaker 2: It came very close to hashtag Greg your ruins everything. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe so we got to talk about what what what

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, Hey, I did the truth matters. I believe getting

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Speaker 4: and they realized in the end Bill Belichick was out there.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not protecting the fat cats.

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Speaker 1: I go to the truth. And then he got he

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Speaker 2: I mean this the other way around, Right, you were

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Speaker 2: protecting the fat cats and doing their work for them,

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Speaker 2: you were carrying their water in promoting the event. I

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Speaker 2: us average Joe's we almost missed having Bill there and

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Speaker 2: all the fun from the event.

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Speaker 1: I thought, listen, I'm not this isn't me throwing daggers

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Speaker 1: at you. Greg. I know we're kind of now competitors.

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Speaker 2: I see you in some ways as like a hungry

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Speaker 2: to come down on you hard. I'm just letting you

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Speaker 3: It's like me that that Belichick if he even contemplated

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Speaker 3: in the eleventh hour not attending this, that if he's

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Speaker 3: that sensitive, right, I don't such a such.

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Speaker 1: They love you love each other.

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Speaker 3: They they nailed it, like the one like Tony Hinchcliff,

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Speaker 3: But he thanked Gronk for taking a break from writing

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Speaker 4: And uh yeah, friend of the show, our former core

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Speaker 2: I'll connected my throwback podcast partner and Bosom Buddy Bob

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Speaker 3: The one mistake I made this was a grave mistake

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Speaker 1: Daddy, who's Aaron Hernandez. That would have been the least

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you got a sharply worded tweet, no response

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Speaker 2: He was always gonna end up in Miami playing for

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Speaker 2: He was very bad the first half of the season,

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Speaker 1: I could see Odell being that for Miami.

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Speaker 2: a Nase Harris Steelers running back declined. The Cowboys not

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Speaker 2: a surprise year. They declined Trey Lance's fifty year option.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he was drafted number three overall a few

443
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Speaker 2: years back. The Broncos do the same with the number

444
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Speaker 2: two overall pick in that draft, Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise there.

446
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Speaker 2: Greg Newsom, Oda Oa, and Kitty pay among the options

447
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Speaker 2: picked up for the fifth year.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the Naji Harris was not surprising.

449
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Speaker 3: I think Jalen Warren's gonna have a much bigger role,

450
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Speaker 3: and I think they want to get faster. Greg Newsom

451
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Speaker 3: was dangled in like trade talks going back like last

452
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Speaker 3: offseason and throughout you know, round the trade deadline last

453
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Speaker 3: year a little bit, so that I like that. I

454
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Speaker 3: think Greg Newsom is like quietly an extremely solid cornerback.

455
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Speaker 3: And if I'm the Browns and Jim Schwartz like, don't

456
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Speaker 3: take anything away, just keep it going for as long

457
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Speaker 3: as you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was actually a little surprised by the Naja Harris

460
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Speaker 4: declining because because it's running back, it's only six point

461
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Speaker 4: eight million dollars, they didn't want to lock into a

462
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Speaker 4: one year, six point eight million dollar contract. That's he's

463
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Speaker 4: not going to be thrilled about that. Right behind him,

464
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Speaker 4: for instance, Travis Etn making a slightly less money because

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Speaker 4: he's one pick later. You know, they picked up his option.

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Speaker 4: I I think you look at some of the players

467
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Speaker 4: that they like. Oh way was a little surprising to me,

468
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Speaker 4: like thirteen point three million. He's been like slowly getting better.

469
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Speaker 4: There were some nos out there, try on Chayanka, gotta know,

470
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Speaker 4: Peyton Turner, who's you know, Eric Stokes. Those guys just

471
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Speaker 4: haven't been on the field enough. Remember Alex Leatherwood not

472
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Speaker 4: eligible in this draft, no longer in the NFL A

473
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Speaker 4: Zaleen Collins, David Collins got to know. But Justin Fields

474
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Speaker 4: was another one just checking a box like of course

475
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Speaker 4: they're not picking it up. I guess it's one year,

476
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Speaker 4: twenty five point seven million. But it just shows what

477
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Speaker 4: a weird situation that bears. What I mean, that Steelers

478
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Speaker 4: team and one like.

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Speaker 3: Little note with Fields because remember we were talking about

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Speaker 3: this thing that's been floated out that they could use

481
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Speaker 3: fields as a return man, like that's possible, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I kind of think it's an interesting concept, But they

484
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Speaker 3: know they have Cordero Patterson too, and they got them specifically,

485
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Speaker 3: Like soon after that whole kickoff thing changed.

486
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Speaker 4: To only one of those quarterbacks. That's that's hitting me

487
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Speaker 4: now of the five taken got their.

488
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Speaker 2: Tops in twenty twenty one draft MESSI not not for nothing,

489
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Speaker 2: was the first draft after COVID shut down the entire

490
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Speaker 2: world and most of college football.

491
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Speaker 4: Darius Tony was a big note to not a not

492
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Speaker 4: a surprise again, but just checking boxes here.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Alex Leatherwood.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking when the Michael Pennox pick went down

495
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Speaker 2: with Atlanta, and I was like, when's the last time

496
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Speaker 2: there was a pick that was so head scratching or

497
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Speaker 2: was immediately panned at such a high level. It was

498
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Speaker 2: the Raiders taking Alex Weatherwe Alex Leatherwood, I think around

499
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Speaker 2: twenty or so twenty one in that realm, and immediately

500
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Speaker 2: I remember all the guys on the day as for

501
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Speaker 2: NFL Network and everywhere else were like them through their notes.

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Speaker 1: It's like I had him as maybe like a third

503
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Speaker 1: round guy.

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Speaker 2: He might be the ultimate example, and of course he

505
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: flamed out immediately with the Raiders. He might be the

506
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Speaker 2: ultimate example of why you don't just draft for a

507
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Speaker 2: position or a need, you have to go best available player.

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Speaker 1: In the Raiders, I think with Mike Mayock made that mistake.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a study out there that kind of over

510
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Speaker 3: the last ten year shows where teams drafted and what

511
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Speaker 3: like how much value according to like consensus big boards,

512
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Speaker 3: where how it you know, even out and the best

513
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Speaker 3: teams get the best value where they draft. And the

514
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Speaker 3: Raiders were dead last over the last ten years and

515
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Speaker 3: they made a lot of like zigging zagging picks that

516
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Speaker 3: didn't work.

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Speaker 4: The other one I thought of actually wasn't quite as

518
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Speaker 4: big as Pennix, But in terms of a top pick

519
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Speaker 4: shocking everyone was Cleveland Faroll, which was also mayok is

520
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Speaker 4: actually his first pick, yep, and it was the number

521
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Speaker 4: four overall pick, and everyone's like, wait, really, like he's

522
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Speaker 4: a solid player, but no one thought he was a

523
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Speaker 4: top fifteen player.

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Speaker 3: They had multiple number ones in that draft and none

525
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Speaker 3: of them were with the team anymore.

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Speaker 2: And we talked about, you know, Jordan did that great

527
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Speaker 2: deep dive of the Rams draft. The teams like the Raiders,

528
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Speaker 2: for instance, that keep churning and starting over, not just

529
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Speaker 2: at head coach. Sometimes you think, oh, oh, they fired

530
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Speaker 2: a GM, they hired a new GM. In a lot

531
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Speaker 2: of cases, you're bringing an entire new length football language

532
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: and before you could even install a new one, and

533
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Speaker 2: even tho, if it works, that guy's out and you're

534
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Speaker 2: starting again. And I guess the examples of teams and

535
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Speaker 2: one's the less time the Raiders win the.

536
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty five years ago, twenty three years ago.

537
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Speaker 1: Not a lot of success when a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: First, Yeah, all right, let's talk about the Saints.

539
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Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis the GM.

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Speaker 2: They made a move at the draft, drafting kool Aid McKinstry,

541
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Speaker 2: who is a very toolsy cornerback. A lot of people

542
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Speaker 2: believe kool Aid has a chance to be, you know,

543
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Speaker 2: a star at corner. And then there's the situation with

544
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Speaker 2: veteran Marshawn Latimore, once upon a time a big time

545
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Speaker 2: draft pick by the Saints back in twenty seventeen. Now

546
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Speaker 2: the idea is, are they looking to move Latimore with

547
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Speaker 2: mcinsrey in the house. Here's what Loomis had to say

548
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Speaker 2: on Mad Dog Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't mean anything. Marshan's have been a really

550
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 5: good player for us for a good period of time.

551
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 5: He's one of the leaders of our team. And and

552
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 5: look like it's just like I said, you know, we

553
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 5: can use as many corners as we can get, and

554
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Speaker 5: we've got we've got a good group, a really good group,

555
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Speaker 5: and they're gonna help each other and they're gonna help

556
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Speaker 5: our team win.

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Speaker 1: Greg they have a very uh talented cornerback room.

558
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Speaker 2: What is the the idea why they would move Latimore

559
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: is that their their perpetual issues with cap space and

560
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: trying to finally gain some level of financial freedom.

561
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Speaker 4: There was some reporting just last year that he wasn't

562
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Speaker 4: happy and it was personal maybe between him and the

563
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Speaker 4: coaching staff, and that's popped up. I think when it

564
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Speaker 4: comes to trades though, and I've seen a lot of

565
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Speaker 4: people like just throw it out, like, oh, what could

566
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Speaker 4: be some trades that could come up this It's like

567
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Speaker 4: trades aren't happening at this point. What is the point

568
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Speaker 4: of getting a draft pick in a trade in the

569
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Speaker 4: middle of the summer that you could just get after

570
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Speaker 4: the season now if injuries happen and you're in training camp.

571
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Speaker 4: That's where it's possible where a guy like a CD deuce,

572
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: you know, shook loose from the Saints, And I could

573
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Speaker 4: see Latimore being a guy like maybe in training camp

574
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Speaker 4: once you get to like the middle till later, once

575
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: you get like closer to cut days, but like from

576
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Speaker 4: now until then, like those big name and receivers, like

577
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Speaker 4: they're not going anywhere.

578
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Speaker 1: The window passed.

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Speaker 3: I might also say that if you lose Lattimore because

580
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Speaker 3: of Dennis Allas, Dennis Allen's second very notable like internal

581
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Speaker 3: tip with the player, that's how you lost Garner Johnson,

582
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: like that, these are both from your secondary. You trade

583
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Speaker 3: them post June one or go or cut them. You

584
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: still are dealing with a lot of dead cap money.

585
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Speaker 3: So it's like it would only save them about four

586
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: million this year, cost them ten plus and dead cap

587
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: money ten plus and dead cap money the year after

588
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Speaker 3: seven plus the year after that, and then still the

589
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Speaker 3: year after that. So it's it's not that financially, it's

590
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Speaker 3: not financial wizardry necessary.

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Speaker 4: I believe he might have been an ex Saint if

592
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Speaker 4: they got like a nice offer, but people are just

593
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Speaker 4: just about waiting for these picks. For veterans, which is

594
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: crazy because then they get in the draft and they're

595
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: throwing like future picks around willy nilly to move up

596
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Speaker 4: ten spots.

597
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Speaker 2: But then the Viking game, but they gave up Yeah,

598
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Speaker 2: like and again the veteran trade Tex You're right Latimore.

599
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, man, I would love to have Latimore

600
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Speaker 2: on my team, but it would cost me like a

601
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Speaker 2: second round pick.

602
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Speaker 1: Maybe No, I don't get the fourth, right, go get them.

603
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: If your team needs a corner we're gonna talk about

604
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: needs in a little bit.

605
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Speaker 3: You're also hoping like it's nice to say kool aid

606
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: McKinstry is like fills and needs like, okay, not a

607
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: lot of cornerbacks don't work.

608
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Speaker 2: So and I just want to say about two minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: I want to apologize to the listeners to you guys

610
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Speaker 2: as well, but I'm working with an alternate laptop today.

611
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Speaker 1: Couldn't locate my work laptop.

612
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Speaker 4: And the concerning the biggest concerning development with one of

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Speaker 4: our laptopsince I spilled coffee on mine twice in six months.

614
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know you know me, but like those

615
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Speaker 2: who know me on a truly personal, like at home level,

616
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: I lose stuff all the time, okay, and it usually

617
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Speaker 2: turns like a laptop. Yeah, like stuff that you would

618
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Speaker 2: never think, how could that be lost?

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't just have left it out like a coffee

620
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Speaker 3: bean or something possible.

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Speaker 1: I went to the car wash after the show.

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Speaker 2: I was a true workingman on Thursday, and took the

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Speaker 2: bag out of the car when I was vacuuming, put

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Speaker 2: the bag back in.

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Speaker 1: How would the laptop get out?

626
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, So the point being, I'm using the laptop, yeah,

627
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: and I had the volume up, and then I got

628
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Speaker 2: a text from a friend and it can't be scrubbed

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Speaker 2: out by atap because I was talking at the time

630
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Speaker 2: of the ding. So now, now, about three minutes ago,

631
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Speaker 2: there's tens of thousands of listeners who are gonna hear

632
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Speaker 2: that ding, and they're gonna go check their phones and

633
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: then they're gonna look at it and it's not going

634
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be a text, And it's because of

635
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: me and my failure to hit the mute button on

636
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Speaker 2: a rogue laptop.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm so apology will go a long way

638
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: to the tens of thousands that will, obviously, but I like,

639
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned it because that's the same a

640
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: similar sound effect we use when someone says something that's

641
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: very factual or astute or right.

642
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Next level or really anything at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but you were you were rolling through a

644
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Speaker 3: setup point and then got a ding, and I'm like,

645
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: why did Eric rear? Why did you get that sound effect?

646
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: You said nothing out of the ordinary, so makes me

647
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Speaker 3: feel better.

648
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Speaker 1: That would really.

649
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Mess with the listeners if Eric replaces his ding with

650
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Speaker 2: the traditional Apple texting, don't do.

651
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Speaker 1: It is off the charts here, I love, thank you,

652
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: thank you.

653
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: What else is in the news? Quote unquote news JJ

654
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Watt he retired. I think I lost the sangwich because

655
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I thought Watt would come back last year. I kind

656
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Speaker 2: of thought he'd end up playing with his brother TJ

657
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh, but he stayed out of football last year,

658
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: did some TV work. But JJ Watt says if his

659
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: original football team, the Houston Texans, and they're head coach,

660
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Speaker 2: pick up the phone, he'd answer, let's listen to this.

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Speaker 6: Twelve great years in this league, and I'm very thankful

662
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Speaker 6: to have walked away healthy and playing great. I mean,

663
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Speaker 6: I told Demiko last year, I said, don't call unless

664
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Speaker 6: you absolutely need it. But if you ever do call,

665
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Speaker 6: I'll be there. He knows, not the call unless he

666
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Speaker 6: absolutely needs it.

667
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Speaker 4: This is the last year.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell him that because I'm not going to keep

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Speaker 6: training the way I've been training. But he knows that

670
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Speaker 6: if he ever truly does need it, I'll be.

671
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Speaker 1: There for him.

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Speaker 2: Notable Brandon K. Scott with the credit there on Twitter.

673
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Speaker 2: Before he made that last comment, I was going to say,

674
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Speaker 2: for a guy who's been out of football now for

675
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Speaker 2: over a year, he looks exactly like JJ Watt many

676
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Speaker 2: many times, and you could figure out why. It's natural

677
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: when they step away from the game, they stop training

678
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: at the same level and their physique gets slimmer or whatever.

679
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: He looks he looks like he's still what was he

680
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Speaker 2: six six to sixty or whatever.

681
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Speaker 3: We saw him at the Super Bowl and he's not

682
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Speaker 3: like a normal human.

683
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Speaker 2: And he's saying he's training too, he's football ready right now. Still,

684
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Speaker 2: that is notable to me and something to keep.

685
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Speaker 3: And I saw a thing where he went through and

686
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: I kind of love finding out about this stuff, Like

687
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: he went through what his diet is to maintain like

688
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Speaker 3: the like the watch shape, and it's like seven thousand

689
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: plus calories a day, but a year old still yeah, well,

690
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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's what he was doing when he

691
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Speaker 3: was a player, and so if he looks exactly the same,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be in the realm of that if

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Speaker 3: he wants to.

694
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Speaker 1: This is the power of CJ.

695
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Speaker 3: Strouds me because he left the Texans with you know,

696
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: some issues with ownership and all that stuff.

697
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Speaker 1: But it's like, suddenly this team looks like a.

698
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowlso say the power of Dimiko Ryans, who is

699
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: sure JJ Watt's former teammate with Houston. They were once

700
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Speaker 2: the stalwarts of a defense together and now he is

701
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Speaker 2: the head coach and he's got obviously the respect of JJ.

702
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Speaker 4: So the off season, the off season news moves slow

703
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: in some ways, but whenever you just get a little bite,

704
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: suddenly it moves fast. And they actually someone tracked down

705
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Speaker 4: Tamiko Ryans, who is at a Texans event today. He says,

706
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Speaker 4: I need him now anytime JJ is ready to go,

707
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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: In as a situational tess be incredible.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're not going to get sucked into the

710
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Speaker 2: May six rumor mill.

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Speaker 1: But it's good to relay s do.

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Speaker 4: It and part of the reason I think what was

713
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Speaker 4: interesting to talk about is let's need throughout this on

714
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Speaker 4: the Rich Eisen Show last week too, just that that

715
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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, like, hey, I had mentioned to Aaron when

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Speaker 4: he retired. You know, we had a guy in Eric

717
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: Weddle who just kind of jumped off the couch to

718
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Speaker 4: join the playoffs. So maybe if if you'd want to

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Speaker 4: do that, that'd be option, you know, it'd be an

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Speaker 4: option for you. He says he doubts Aaron Donald would

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Speaker 4: actually do.

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Speaker 1: That, but I don't know. The RAMS might see that happening.

723
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Speaker 4: The RAMS might ask, and they actually structured his contract

724
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Speaker 4: and retirement in a way that that would be very

725
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Speaker 4: doable if Aaron Donald would want to. But he says

726
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Speaker 4: that he might try to. They might try to tempt him,

727
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: but that they don't know if they.

728
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Speaker 3: Should do more of these, like veterans with special powers

729
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: are brought onto the scene, like Joe Flacco, like in

730
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Speaker 3: November and December. Don't make them go through all this

731
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: nonsense leading up to it. If the team's in position,

732
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Speaker 3: you bring Aaron Donald back in for sixty days and

733
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Speaker 3: he dominates and then gets a Super Bowl ring.

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Speaker 1: Do it love to see it. There's just a category

735
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Speaker 1: of players like that.

736
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Speaker 2: Justin James Watt turned thirty five years old in March.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's what's happening in the news. Let's take

738
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Speaker 2: a break and talk about some outstanding team needs. I

739
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Speaker 2: don't mean outstanding like, oh, it's outstanding. I mean outstanding

740
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Speaker 2: like a debt, like a tax bill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be right back. We are back, We're back. Continue.

742
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Speaker 3: I mean. The only upside here is that I didn't like,

743
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Speaker 3: somehow verbalize a third version of that over the double

744
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: version that already exists.

745
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Speaker 2: Could happen though like that, it could happen, it wouldn't

746
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Speaker 2: be like that wasn't on purpose either, and if it

747
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: did happen again, it would have the.

748
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Speaker 3: Triple only happened that time because your directions were fuzzy

749
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Speaker 3: compared to the direction you gave like a Jordan on

750
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Speaker 3: our last show, or Colleen, like the ones given to

751
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: me were fuzzy, and I faltered. And I don't blame myself.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: Unfinished business, that's see, that was the one I was

754
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Speaker 2: trying to get that out at the top of the

755
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: show segment. Unfinished business. Teams are now pretty much, and

756
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: there are still GREGI, there are still roster moves to

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00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: be made. There's not a lot of options out there,

758
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: but there are options. There are players out there, and

759
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: there will be cuts and all that stuff, and maybe

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Speaker 2: jj WA coomes out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: You never know.

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Speaker 2: But as things stand out, Greg, there's gonna be teams

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Speaker 2: that enter the season with with void.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into them. Let's talk about them.

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00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not, maybe they only seem like a roster issue,

766
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: and we'll have a conversation and it won't be that way.

767
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: And I'll get this one going, and I will start

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Speaker 2: with a team that I think everyone agrees is a

769
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: bit of a intellectual curiosity right now.

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Speaker 1: It is ATP's favorite team. It is the Buffalo Bills.

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00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: And you could go in maybe a couple of different

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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: directions for this team that's been so close to getting

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Speaker 2: over the hump, but they haven't yet. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: did they make it to the AFC title Game yet?

775
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: With Josh Allen once Yeah, yeah. On one trip to.

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Speaker 1: The game is Stefan Diggs staring at the confetti No

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00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: no rough rough.

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00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: And now they're trying to go out at a different

779
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Speaker 2: angle with some turnover on the roster. I'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the wide receivers because I'm curious in general here this

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: is not just this offseason, but when you look at

782
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: their depth chart, where's the investment been at this position

783
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: during the Stephan Diggs and now the post Diggs era.

784
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: We know the Bills traded back twice out of the

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Speaker 2: first round. They took Keon Coleman last month in the

786
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: second round. We'll see how he turns out. But I

787
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: always think that that with wide receivers, in most cases

788
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: there are special cases, and there could be a couple

789
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: of special cases at the top of this draft with

790
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison and and neighbors and a doonsay, but banking

791
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: on a first year wide receiver to fill your void

792
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: if you have a big one at wide receiver is

793
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: risky business. And that they're kind of asking that if

794
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: Kean Coleman right now, however, Coleman, he looks like a

795
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: lottery pick as a second rounder compared to the rest

796
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: of the depth chart. Gabe Davis was a fourth round

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00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: pick in twenty twenty. He's in Jacksonville now. Khalil Shakir

798
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: was a fifth rounder in twenty two just In Shorter,

799
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Speaker 2: a fifth rounder in twenty three, and then you look

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00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: at who else they have their free agent acquisitions, Curtis Samuel,

801
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: kJ Hamler, Chase Claypool. Those guys are all second round picks,

802
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: but on other teams, and they're two varying degrees, in

803
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: my opinion, depreciated assets. Former fourth round pick Mac Hollins

804
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: is also on this team. Now cool a lot of guys,

805
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: yeah names and listen. I love Josh Allen. Actually Josh

806
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: and I are spirit Canines, as Jordan pointed out last week,

807
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: But I don't want to watch number seventeen throwing to

808
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: a bunch of second rate playmakers like Patrick Mahomes was

809
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: a year ago.

810
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: And I'll end with a movie quote here, Marky.

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Speaker 2: Like Basher don Chieadle's character and Ocean's eleven said it

812
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: will be nice working with proper villain. Actually said it

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: in a terrible English accent. Yeah, and I have a

814
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: terrible English accent, so I'll do it. It'll be nice

815
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: working with proper villains again. Alan will have to wait

816
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: at least another year for the dawn of that reality,

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00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: because right now these are not proper villains in my opinion.

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: At the wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did such a good job early in Allen's

820
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: career building up around him quickly, and they're in a

821
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: they're having to move through a different phase of all that.

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid is a big factor, though. I kind of think,

823
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: you know what, You've got a real weapon in him

824
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: at tight end. But you're right, it's a bunch of

825
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: dudes that are like names alone, like Andy Isabella. You've

826
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Speaker 3: got like a key on Coleman. You're hoping right away contributes.

827
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 3: They've already said like he has to, and Josh Allen

828
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: knows he has to.

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Speaker 1: I don't love that for any.

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Speaker 3: First year wide receiver, especially early on, because it's like

831
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: going from college to pros and different playbooks, different schemes,

832
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 3: Like there is an adjustment there. But I also don't

833
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: just like wide out rooms where if you get one

834
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: injury here to a key figure, you are staring at

835
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: bottom of the barrel talent around Josh Allen.

836
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Speaker 4: I like this group more than you guys do, just

837
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: because I like Curtis Samuel like I can't get I

838
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 4: did too.

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Speaker 1: I would say I didn't.

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00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: I felt even when I was doing that set up

841
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: that I don't He's not much of a depreciated asset,

842
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: but he has bounced around the league a little.

843
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: Bit, and he's a role player. Your guys are right

844
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: that there's a bunch of role players. Coleman was a

845
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: divisive draft prospect. Some people had him as like a

846
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: third or fourth round guy, other's Bucky Brooks, and plenty

847
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: of other people had him as like a top five

848
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: receiver in this class, like a physical guy who I

849
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: thought would make more sense in the slot. My problem is,

850
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: like I like Shakir, he's shown he's an NFL player,

851
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: he's a.

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00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: As a like a as I got next to a

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Speaker 3: one and someone, yeah, exactly, as like a three, as

854
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: like an inside player who's gonna get open.

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: Samuel's profiles a little similar to me to Shakir. And

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00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: then you have Coleman, who I thought would do his

857
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: best work on the inside, and you have Kincaid, who

858
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: to me is part of this, and Dawson Knox is

859
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: part of this. And that's what you're hoping for, is

860
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: that an offensive line and the tight ends and the

861
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 4: running backs essentially make up for these receivers. But yeah,

862
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: you mentioned, I didn't even realize how many like oh,

863
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: he's on this team. Claypool maccollins. Mc collins can play.

864
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: He's like a fourth receiver who was a special teamer.

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00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: Andy Isabella is probably not making this team, but he

866
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: is on this team. kJ Hammler like I loved for

867
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: a few minutes and then he's had devastating injuries unfortunately.

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00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Like, there's just a lot of names, a lot of guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put you on the spot, Eric

870
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: unless you know, but I'm gonna check. When's the last

871
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: time they used a first round pick on a wide receiver?

872
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: Digs they traded for They traded a first round pick

873
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: to get Digs.

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00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean, off top of my head, are we going

875
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: back to Stevie Watkins, Sammy Watkins? You're right, they traded up.

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: They traded a bundle to get and maybe that's a

877
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: reason why the organizationally because Watkins never really came through,

878
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: but they traded up to get Watkins in twenty fourteen,

879
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: which was the Dark ages of the Buffalo Bills. But

880
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: that's the last time that they've gone in that direction,

881
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: all right.

882
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Mark, you want to go next? Yeah? For me?

883
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: Looking around, I like this exercise because you're like looking

884
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: at our lads and kind of seeing where things just

885
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: do not work it.

886
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: Can we hit the Big Funk means a second couple

887
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: of waters be brought to Dan. Everyone.

888
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: Really, you gotta subscribe on YouTube check us out to

889
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: see Big.

890
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: Funk step up. They Big Funk does it all for water.

891
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: Big Funk is not only a gifted producer and social man.

892
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: When Mystic Dan forgets to get the Mystic Dan, that's

893
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: pretty good. Actually, I like that Big Funk does it

894
00:40:46,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: all gets the water. He does it all? Sorry, Mark, what.

895
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: Are the odds that I'd get eight words into uh

896
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: my segment point here? And not only are is like

897
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, fluids being brought into the room, but we're

898
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: breaking into song and dance.

899
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: I was parched, and I thought it was affecting my performance.

900
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: I was a psychic connection that allowed that Bark has

901
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: a point here.

902
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: It's obviously not going to be you that's getting interrupted

903
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: by that by Ranel.

904
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I interrupt myself all the time, right coming in though

905
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean and doing this song.

906
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: But for some reason, if it was me or Mark

907
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: who's gonna it just by chance, who's gonna get interrupted?

908
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: I would put my life savings that it's.

909
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: Marked the timing well the timing is the timing is

910
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: a lever pole.

911
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: Understand that, but but to see it as a lever pole,

912
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: at least on the surface is incorrect. But if you're saying,

913
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: if I'm subconsciously pull on the lever, it's not that

914
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: deep and it's certainly within the realm of reason.

915
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't think it's miles into the subcons can

916
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: turn this up a little bit.

917
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: That is nice.

918
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: Fuck, you need to use this in your personal life,

919
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying.

920
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: I'd love to discover that.

921
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: You know, when you when we pass off the earth

922
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: and you can see all different periods of human times.

923
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah that whenever you think of like the medieval ages

924
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: and you have like a floutest who's like, you know

925
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: that it's very boring music. But what if it was

926
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: just this and we don't think we created this, but

927
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: this was what was happening, like the Soulful.

928
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: The soulful Floutest is an underrated musician, all right, without

929
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: further ado, Mars.

930
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: This feels like it's also now following it up with

931
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: some sort of mundane football common is absurd. I like,

932
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: what like a lot of these like running back rooms

933
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: have a bunch of guys. I don't know what why

934
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: the New York Giants who have issues, they already have issues,

935
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: think that Devin Singletary is going to be a capable

936
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: post to Kwon Barkley lead horse. I think he's a

937
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: fine guy to have as part of your running back room.

938
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: They drafted Tyrone Tracy's a fifth rounder. They've got Dion Jackson,

939
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: Eric Gray. One of these guys is going to go

940
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: down with it some sort of an injury or malady.

941
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 3: And it's like, suddenly you're taking a quarterback you don't

942
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: trust who's injury prone, and Daniel Jones or fill in

943
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: the blank there and say, we're not sure even if

944
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: they stay healthy, you've got a capable running game. I'll

945
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: add to that that we don't know what's happening with

946
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: Darren Waller at tight end.

947
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: So you've got Daniel Bellinger exactly. This sounds like no

948
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: other real breaking news, but.

949
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: Right, but how many other players are like It's like

950
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: we're into month three of whispers that Darren Waller doesn't

951
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: maybe want to play football again.

952
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other stuff going on there.

953
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: We're never seeing that man out of football field ever again.

954
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Last year when he was public about it, he said,

955
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I he's on records.

956
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: This also just isn't the same version they were. I

957
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: think we were last what version of Darren Waller're gonna get? Like,

958
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: we're one year later into not being condensurate. It's that

959
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: guy they drafted, Theo Johnson at tight end, who some

960
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: people were talking up. But you know, you just are

961
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: taking your running back position, your tight end position you've

962
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 3: got you had. You have very little wide receiver before

963
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: Elik Neighbors. It's like this offense, it's the this is

964
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: the crew that build up around Josh Allen like they

965
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, these these were connected to that growth period

966
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: and we saw what the coaching staff could do with that.

967
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: And it's not happening around whatever quarterback they actually want

968
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: to play, because there's questions about that too.

969
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait a second, Can I just say they took

970
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: one of the big three wide receivers though?

971
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: I like that, but I didn't list wide receiver.

972
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that if the wide receiver was a

973
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: burning need, and so they did address that. You can't

974
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: address everything, but if you're gonna lose Saquon Barkley, who frankly,

975
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: when they go to the playoffs two seasons ago, and

976
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: that was smoking mirrors to some degree. But Sequon had

977
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: one of those seasons.

978
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: Can I say, I don't think that was a terrible

979
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: move to pay a better than running back with injury.

980
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: No, but get you.

981
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: But but you're now telling us that if Devin Singletary

982
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: is your lead guy and question marks behind him.

983
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: That's riskly.

984
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: I guess my counter would be Devin Singletary, while not

985
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: flashy and certainly not have the name brand value of

986
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, he might actually be a better investment for

987
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: what he gives you and what he costs compared to

988
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: what the Eagles just paid.

989
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: I don't think right.

990
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't think the argument is I think you should

991
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: have turned around and overpaid for a running back that

992
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: has durability.

993
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: Is but you would have had to to keep them

994
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: in the bills. So you don't see that.

995
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: But you go there's there was months and months and

996
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: chances to go to get other teams, like the wide

997
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: receiver room in Buffalo. You're throwing a lot of darts.

998
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: We'll see what works. There's not a lot of relikable darts.

999
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: They got caught flat footed. Yes, at running back because

1000
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: they gave Devin Singletary nine and a half million guaranteed.

1001
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: It's like, that's that's a lot, and and that's a

1002
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: fair point when you factor and how much you paid.

1003
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: I had no idea he was getting that much guaranteed.

1004
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: But my only point is, at least how I looked

1005
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: at the exercise. If I see the team actually actively

1006
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: kind of going trying to address it, I'm gonna give

1007
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: them a little bit of a pass. Like the Bills,

1008
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: I feel like they didn't. They weren't aggressive enough with

1009
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: their wide receivers. The Giants are trying to do it,

1010
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: but they're not. It's not gonna happen in one day.

1011
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're trying to do it.

1012
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: At running back, they signed like I mean, a little

1013
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: bit every I mean everyone in these position groups.

1014
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: They've added someone somewhere. I got a lot of work

1015
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: to do.

1016
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: I agree with you don't see any and that's a

1017
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: position you can usually find some free agents late in

1018
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: the game. But again they went quite quickly. I'm not

1019
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: sure who that would be. Maybe a Kareem Hunt, maybe

1020
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: a Latavious Murray. But you're not gonna get excited.

1021
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Let's see haven't Singletary got nine and a half guaranteed,

1022
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: dem I missing.

1023
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: There had some nice metrics last year in terms of

1024
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: like make Tony Pollard miss and Tony Pollard got similar

1025
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: maybe a little more, all right.

1026
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: If Neighbors is a stud though, they're gonna be a

1027
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: lot better on offense if the quarterback can get it

1028
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: to them.

1029
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: Hollard got ten point four million guaranteed, so pretty similar.

1030
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so maybe we should stop crying poverty

1031
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: for the running backs.

1032
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: It's all turning around.

1033
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: Now, Okay. I might have misunderstood this exercise. No, I

1034
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: don't think so. It's unfinished business. It's unfinished business, and

1035
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: so I didn't look at it from a team perspective

1036
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: out at more like league wide.

1037
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm into the I'm into the contract.

1038
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: So I just let's start with I could divide this

1039
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: up into wide receiver deals and quarterback deals, but let's

1040
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: go wide receiver first.

1041
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I made little categories. I like it all right.

1042
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: Here are some wide receiver deals I expect justin Jefferson.

1043
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: We might have to wait around till like August for this,

1044
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 4: but I think it's it's gonna happen the way they've

1045
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: way public.

1046
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: This is quite literally unphysical finished business business.

1047
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think justin Jefferson, Brandon Ayuk, Nico Collins, those

1048
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: would be three wide receivers I think are going to

1049
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: get good contracts this offseason. One I want to put

1050
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: in this category, but I don't rule out the Cowboys

1051
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: for messing it up, is CD Lamb, who's also a

1052
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: free agent next year, Like, you got to do this right,

1053
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: Like I think they will do it, but now at

1054
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: this point, I don't know. I don't I don't know

1055
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: what's going on in Dallas. And then another category is

1056
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 4: my don't wait around for it to get too late,

1057
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: And that would be kind of be next year's crew,

1058
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: which is Jalen Wattle, Jamar Chase, and Drake London. The

1059
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: teams that are getting done early. We've talked about it

1060
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: save a little money. So that's just like the unfinished

1061
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver business. And there's been a lot a lot

1062
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: of chatter, especially with JJ and Iyuk, but in the end,

1063
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: I think those deals get done.

1064
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: That's my unfinished bass.

1065
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: That's a little like housekeeping, if you will. I like that,

1066
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: who's out there and what's the one that the least

1067
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: likely of that group? You think to get a deal.

1068
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: CD.

1069
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 4: I think because I don't know, because they've they've waited

1070
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: too long. You got you should try to get it

1071
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: in before Jefferson does it.

1072
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I think they're keeping CD before Dak at this point. Yeah,

1073
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 2: I kind of like some of the breadcrumbs going on around.

1074
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 4: Here Eco Collins, maybe just because he's not quite at

1075
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: that level. But I think they know what they have

1076
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: and they have a ton of cap space, so he

1077
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 4: would make a lot of sense. Let's do the quarterback too.

1078
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: While I'm on the contract beat, and these might be

1079
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: more interesting. I've seen people push back that is GoF

1080
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: actually got to get this deal.

1081
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: I still expect golf. Did you hear those Lions fans

1082
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: in Detroit? Right? You can't let that guy.

1083
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: It is a tricky contract perhaps of how many years

1084
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: of guaranteed money you're gonna give. But he'll get a

1085
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: nice raise goff to And I think Jordan Love gets

1086
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 4: paid this year because I think Green Bay is smart.

1087
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: I think the contract they gave him last year was

1088
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: a sneaky great contract, a two year deal.

1089
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: Give him a little cushion.

1090
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: They didn't give him his fifth year option, but I

1091
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: think they get contracts Dak it looks like it is

1092
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: a big fat no, which is crazy. And then just

1093
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 4: kind of like keep an eye out on Trevor.

1094
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: Maybe they just wait for him to get to his

1095
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: fifthyear option, which is fine, He's not a free agent

1096
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: next year.

1097
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: Trevor and Purty my unfortunate. What did you call it, Avatar?

1098
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I am now brock Purty black party might

1099
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: be the most underpaid player in the league. Whether you're

1100
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: a huge brock pretty guy or a middle brock purty guy.

1101
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: He's getting paid like a seventh round pick for starting

1102
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: quarterback on one of the best teams in the NFL.

1103
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: So those are two to watch.

1104
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: I think the one in there that like a couple

1105
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: of things happening, because let's there is a world where

1106
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott doesn't stay with the Cowboys after this upcoming season.

1107
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: And then you're the Dolphins and you're trying to figure out,

1108
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 3: if you're Mike McDaniel, like what how much you really

1109
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: want to invest in Tua? Like contract for Tua when

1110
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: maybe a quarterback becomes available in the off season, like

1111
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: are like I'm still confounded by what to do with Tua.

1112
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I know that like the from certain metrics.

1113
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: He looks pristine, but like watching too, it's like, am

1114
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: I gonna give this guy a giant contract?

1115
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: They just seem like they are very positive about it,

1116
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: and he's positive about it. It just says to me

1117
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: they've made progress and they're they're both kind of think

1118
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen.

1119
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: All right, So you rock my world about that singletary thing.

1120
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: So I look, I love I did some digging here.

1121
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: So the running back market.

1122
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: You're just not interested in. What's a party gotta be?

1123
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 4: That's a tricky contract, Dan.

1124
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I also think that.

1125
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: Is it he worth more than he would never get

1126
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: more money than Trevor. By the way, I.

1127
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: Don't want to say anything about Brock because I don't

1128
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 2: want to get Mark upset that I'm still not totally

1129
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: sold on Rock and maybe the Niners aren't.

1130
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: You well, you should be. You should be worried about

1131
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: getting me upset.

1132
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: You know, kept me up. That wasn't my compar comparison.

1133
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: I loved that it was uh because it got you

1134
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: fired up. But that was Jordan saying that you were

1135
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: Brock Birdie. That really stuck with Greg.

1136
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: We were as we were leaving the studio, you were

1137
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: still parsing that in your mind and verbally with us.

1138
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: Just give me Philip Rivers someone that's fun.

1139
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: At least, you know, well, I think it was all

1140
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: active qbs though.

1141
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: Anyway, so you're you're right, You're absolutely right.

1142
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: He got Devin got nine and a half fully guaranteed,

1143
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: which is more than what Derreck Henry got fully guaranteed.

1144
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: And uh, I'll just throw one more out there that

1145
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: to the point though, nine and a half is nine

1146
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: and a half. But Saquon got twenty twenty five and

1147
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: a half.

1148
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: He got it, he got the contract five and a half.

1149
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Not to like, not to hash it.

1150
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: You're you're looking at it through the lens of like,

1151
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: should they have re signed Saquon Barkley.

1152
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: No, we've moved on from that conversation, and at least

1153
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: I have. I'm more just like looking at how that

1154
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: market shook out in hindsight. Now let's move on, Let's

1155
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: go through another round. Let's do it here. Wait, go

1156
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: where do I want to go? Where do I want

1157
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: to go? Where do I want to go? All right,

1158
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: let's steck at wide receiver and let's talk about the Ravens.

1159
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: So you know they addressed cornerback offensive guard in the

1160
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: first and second rounds. I trust the process and Baltimore

1161
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: always will, but I don't like how it all ended

1162
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: up for Lamar here because there's a lot. There's a

1163
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: lot being put on Rashad Bateman finally becoming that dude

1164
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: first round pick back in twenty twenty one.

1165
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: Do I trust Zay Flowers? Yeah?

1166
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 2: Do I think Zay Flowers can progress and even become

1167
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: a star.

1168
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Yes?

1169
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: But then after Zay and after of course Mark Andrews,

1170
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: you have again Bateman, you have Nelson Aguilar, you have

1171
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick, devontees Walker, you know Darthrow, Deontay Hardy,

1172
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: Tylan Wallace.

1173
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: You have a bunch of guys, just a bunch of

1174
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: dudes kind of back where you were. And here's the issue.

1175
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go crazy in the sense that

1176
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: if you have what Lamar brings to the table, and

1177
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: you have Mark Andrews, who is one of the best

1178
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: playmaking tight ends in the sport, and Zay who could

1179
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: become like a all pro type player if things go

1180
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: the right way, but this team, to me, is still

1181
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: one injury away to either of those guys to being

1182
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: right back to where they always seem to be where

1183
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: they are shorthanded and struggling, perhaps in January, to find

1184
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: a way to make the offense go.

1185
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: So why why are we not learning?

1186
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: Like to me, the Miami Dolphins is another example from

1187
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: what happened in their last game moving forward, I just

1188
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: don't get it.

1189
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I do wonder if.

1190
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: They felt like there was a receiver drop off before

1191
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: they ended up taking Nate Wiggins with the thirty pick.

1192
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: He was a cornerback and like they were pretty interesting

1193
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 4: receivers on the board Ken Coleman and we saw Lagett

1194
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 4: and who went in the second round. But I would

1195
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: have thought they would have liked to get out of

1196
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: that that pick with the receiver, because that's it's not

1197
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: a great group and you're going into the season with

1198
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: major questions there and on the offensive line where the

1199
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: guard positions and right tackle or shaky they they weirdly

1200
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: have more questions to me than a lot of the AFC,

1201
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: like good teams, And yet I see that they're like

1202
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 4: they're over under and it's not showing up in Vegas yet,

1203
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: like they're being seen as this, Like we're coming off

1204
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: a one seed and we're the favorite in the AFC

1205
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: North in our over unders eleven and a half, and

1206
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure they have a lot of questions.

1207
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 3: They're always a team that it's gonna find like two

1208
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 3: or three guys between now and the start of the

1209
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: season that plugs some holes. But I think it's like

1210
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: with offensive line, like where are some of these guys

1211
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: gonna go? They drafted Roger Rosengarden, Andrew Vorheis, who was

1212
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: a pick last year, was injured, is coming back and

1213
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: like getting fairly well praised by the coaching staff. But

1214
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: it's like there are are a lot of departures here.

1215
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 3: There were like fourteen key figures that left, and suddenly

1216
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: the Ravens are back. I think there's back where you

1217
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: were at wide receiver. We're like you kind of appeased

1218
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: Lamar a year ago, and I'm with you on Rashad Bateman.

1219
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: It's like there's moments where you see it, but like

1220
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: there's no evidence that this guy's going to suddenly make

1221
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: a major leap here.

1222
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: He's I want to, you know, I want to call

1223
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: him a sunken cost, but at a certain point you

1224
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: have to start seeing him, stop seeing him as the

1225
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 2: guy that you wanted him to be I'm just looking

1226
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: at his three years in the league. He he finally

1227
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: played you know, close to a full season last year,

1228
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: sixteen games and did not produce at a very high

1229
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: level at all.

1230
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: Thirty two or three sixty seven and one.

1231
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: The season before was you know, injuries wiped out most

1232
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: of the year. You know, he only started four games

1233
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: as a rookie in twenty one. So it's you're really

1234
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: banking on his development in this offense. If not, it's

1235
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: a problem, Greg, Who's that mark your next?

1236
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: You know, a team that like I always feel I'm

1237
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: picking on these guys and I'm not trying to, but

1238
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: it's just like it's hard to see what's happening here

1239
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: with the Raiders because like, fine, even if you like

1240
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew, like there's a quarter this is one of

1241
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 3: the weirder quarterback situations in the in the league where

1242
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: it's like you have an interim coach that became the

1243
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: full time coach and you're going into this new campaign

1244
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: and there was all this kind of like I like

1245
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: Antonio appears more than you, Dan, but I think that

1246
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: the Raiders players like them.

1247
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: But you're going into a core.

1248
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: Into a tough AFC West campaign with at best like

1249
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 3: a C plus situation at quarterback, if not a lot worse,

1250
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: especially if there's any sort of injury there. They're one,

1251
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: they're running back room Alexander Madison, not in love with

1252
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: Alexander Madison's You're mere white, a mere Abduela right now

1253
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: is listed as their starter by PFF. I know that's

1254
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 3: just I'm not wort of laughing at that. That that's

1255
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: funny that that's how that roster looks at sure, and

1256
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's fine, but I don't I'm not in

1257
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: love with that. But then they're at cornerback. They didn't

1258
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: have a chance because they you going pad your tight

1259
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: end room. Now, I don't rock Bauers make sense, but

1260
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: beyond Jack Jones, they are very inexperienced at corner. And

1261
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: you're in a you're in a division with Justin Herbert.

1262
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 3: I understand it might be Justin Herbert handing the ball

1263
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: off ten times more times a game, but you can't

1264
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: get out of the without a loaded secondary. And it's

1265
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: guys like Nate Hobbs and Jacorey and Bennett. They took

1266
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: a fifth round flyer Onto Kamari and Richardson there, but

1267
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: it's like that was a need they didn't address it

1268
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: correctly because they have so many other needs. And the

1269
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: Raiders to me, don't look a lot any better than

1270
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: they did at the end of last season.

1271
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay Josh Jacobs. I get that.

1272
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: I think actually, no problem with the wise move. No

1273
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: problem with that.

1274
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: They got Gardner Minshew, who played pretty well for the

1275
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: Colts last year, and there's a pretty decent chance. It

1276
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: sounds like if Michael Pennix or one of those other

1277
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks is still on the board when the Raiders picked,

1278
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: they would have went in that direction. But at least

1279
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: they have a guy in Minshew that could hold the fort.

1280
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: So I'm not even going really crazy there, even if

1281
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: it's not exciting. But you mentioned if you have a

1282
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: huge weakness on your team and you have an entire

1283
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: offseason to address it, in the back end of their defense,

1284
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: it seems like they are very vulnerable.

1285
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 4: I'm always wary of the defense, Like you close really strong,

1286
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 4: you finish on a streak, and you just think like

1287
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: that's our defense now. It usually doesn't carry over, like

1288
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: because on paper, you're right Mark talented up front, but

1289
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 4: the back end is not a very talented group. The

1290
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: Bears are kind of the other team that stick with

1291
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 4: me a little bit about that. They're just assuming that

1292
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 4: their defense totally cares over but carries over. But they've

1293
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: at least invested more in terms of picks than the

1294
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: Raiders have.

1295
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: All Right, the Bears, Greggy, all Right.

1296
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna dip into the free agency zone again and

1297
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: ask where do the cornerbacks go?

1298
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: Maybe where do the tackles go?

1299
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 4: Because I think these are the only positions where there's

1300
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: actually some players available that are worth caring about. Stefan

1301
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: Gilmour can still play. I mentioned the Packers as a

1302
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 4: possibility in every Packers fan that apparently has a Twitter

1303
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: count is like, we roasted him, No thanks, I.

1304
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Get you know.

1305
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: He had a bad pre like postseason game against the Packers.

1306
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: I think it was Dantavian Wicks kind of cooked him up.

1307
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: Gilmore was a little banged up by the end of

1308
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: the year, and that's a risk for an older player.

1309
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: But he was a good player last year. He was

1310
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: a plus starter, so he'll help some teams somewhere. Adri

1311
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: Jackson is available. He can still play. I think when

1312
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: he's healthy. Steven Nelson is just the guy who fills

1313
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 4: out like a thousand snaps every year and can play

1314
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: a little bit. A Kela Weatherspoon was a late signing

1315
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 4: from the Rams last year and played quite well. So

1316
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: those are four guys who to me can play some

1317
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: ball and are still out there. And then almost any

1318
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: team could use cornerbacks, but some of the most interesting

1319
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 4: ones to me would be Packers, Colts, Texans, Jags, Chargers,

1320
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: I would throw in their Falcons, forty nine Ers, Cardinals, Panthers.

1321
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many teams that could use cornerbacks,

1322
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: but those guys could go in and actually help you,

1323
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: I think sooner than later, actually step in and help.

1324
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: Some of those guys are like waiting till whether there's

1325
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: they can up their contract big time if there's injuries,

1326
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: or it's like the right team suddenly needs them at

1327
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: the closet.

1328
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: Right Gilmore and especially Gilmore there I think actually will

1329
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: get decent money. By decent, I mean like eight million

1330
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: or something like that.

1331
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll handcuff that with the last one I had,

1332
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: since it it's right in this category. The jag Wars

1333
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: in their secondary I reached out to our original boss,

1334
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler justin Hathaway now working up there in the

1335
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: Bay Area for NBC, and despite well, he is a

1336
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: Florida on the Jaguars City Jaguars fan, right, he's from Florida,

1337
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: justin I feel like every city you ever.

1338
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Mentioned, he knows.

1339
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been there at some point anyway, justin huge

1340
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: Jags fan. And I asked him, like, what were your

1341
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: thoughts about their team and what the holes were, and

1342
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: he was not thrilled that they traded back in the

1343
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: first round when they had a chance to grab both

1344
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: of those top cornerbacks, and then when they trade back

1345
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: to twenty three, the Eagles took one of the big

1346
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: cornerbacks right in front of him. But then you still

1347
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: had well Quiny and Mitchell's and the Eagles you had

1348
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold still there. They went with the wide receiver,

1349
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: and we've talked about that that it felt like the

1350
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Jags had got boxed in a little bit after what

1351
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: happened with Calvin Ridley, So you can't kill him for that.

1352
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: But then they waited until the third round to take

1353
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: a corner and then you look at their depth chart

1354
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: and you look at the team that's coming off very disappointing.

1355
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: Ending, especially on defense. Ronald Darby.

1356
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: They brought in who's, you know, a veteran guy, but

1357
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 2: they're asking him to kind of anchor things back there.

1358
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: He's been a journey. He's a definition of a journey

1359
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: right right now.

1360
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: Where he did a one and done where in Baltimore

1361
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: last year. So we'll see what happens with the Jags.

1362
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: But that felt like a place they maybe should have

1363
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: been more aggressive and now they are perhaps vulnerable.

1364
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: Took another one of those teams where like so many

1365
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: mocks had this type of position cornerback going to Jacksonville

1366
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: and it doesn't happen right, and it's like, well, that

1367
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: was a burnie knee.

1368
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: That's why they were. People were saying that.

1369
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: There's only so many of these guys out there too.

1370
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: I do feel like it was a thing this year

1371
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: that free agency went faster. Guys, there's less guys maybe

1372
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 4: that are still out there. But I look at these

1373
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 4: three or four guys and think they could help them.

1374
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: They yeah, they are maybe the number one team there.

1375
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: And then maybe on the old a little more connective

1376
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: tissue here. You could also at the Jags and their defense.

1377
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: Obviously they have Josh Allen and he's awesome, but I

1378
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: don't know if there's some with Trayvon Walker, some Rashad

1379
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: Bateman DNA there where they're not willing to admit that

1380
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: he's not going to be the other guy on the

1381
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: side across from Allen. So they're rolling with him and

1382
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: hoping he's going to develop, which makes sense he's entering

1383
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: what his third year. But they might not have enough

1384
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: pass rush either, And these are problems in a division

1385
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: where you know, it could be tough to defend with

1386
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: some of the exciting players in really all everywhere in

1387
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: that division.

1388
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: Now, with CJ.

1389
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: Strouds, Rise Richardson coming back, of course, we shall see.

1390
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: They also have a new defensive coordinator, Ryan Nielsen. They

1391
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: fired Mike Caldwell and Nielsen strong mustache game. If you

1392
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 4: check out his profile on the Jaguars website. Was one

1393
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: of those guys that, like everyone who's a tape head

1394
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 4: was like, Wow, I love what Ryan Nielsen did with

1395
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 4: the Falcons last year, really creative, Like really Max dw

1396
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: like did a good job. And then and I don't

1397
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 4: really doubt it, but they were bad defense, So I

1398
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: don't know what to make of it.

1399
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: That is of them.

1400
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this mustache up here, Greg. It is'srue

1401
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 3: and trude here, but that's nice.

1402
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: It's really something speaking of it's from seem Valley, which

1403
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: is known it's like the home of cops in southern California.

1404
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: And he kind of looks like a cop.

1405
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 4: What the home of like the lot, No, a lot

1406
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: of cops like live in seem Me Valley.

1407
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like a cop haven. Oh yeah, he looks

1408
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 2: like and he looks like a twelve year veteran.

1409
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: A lot of cops in else Goundo too, Uh do we?

1410
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: I guess well, that little.

1411
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: That that Eric gave me a good point as a

1412
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 1: real so cow guy. There you go. Yeah, that's good.

1413
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: My little hometown of Pearl River, New York, a lot

1414
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: of cops at firefighters took the Metro North into the city.

1415
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: You got to be within a certain you gott to

1416
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: be within a certain demo, like in terms of mileage

1417
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: from the city, and my town was just within that

1418
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: limit and had mass transportation.

1419
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: That's all part of a tu mark.

1420
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: I've ridden Metro North probably six hundred times, and I

1421
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: miss it.

1422
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's a wonderful way to get around town.

1423
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: Shout out to the NYPD and New York Fire Department

1424
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: absolutely for what they do.

1425
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to what they've done North workers too. Oh,

1426
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: that's one thing we all have in common.

1427
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: I was taking the Metro North on an almost daily

1428
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 4: basis when I was working up at Ronal World.

1429
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: That hell. Shout out to New Jersey and NBAC.

1430
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: They've also dealt with a lot of drunk people over

1431
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: the years. An angry businessman going home to a house

1432
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: that no longer feels like a home.

1433
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 4: Everyone would always talk about the bar car because the

1434
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: bar car was still there when I was there, Like,

1435
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 4: shout out to the bark. The actual bar car was there,

1436
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 4: but there was no more bar. You were allowed to

1437
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: drink there, but people would talk about the good old day.

1438
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: Well, yeah you could, Like you could you sit there

1439
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: with a beer with a napkin around it, a canned

1440
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: beer and just stare out as the you know, the

1441
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: towns float by you.

1442
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: It's a nice with your friends, wonderful thing. Anybody get

1443
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: a PBA card from a friend of a friend. Yeah, years,

1444
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: I had it throughout my New York stay. You got

1445
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: an old guy? What does it stand for? Pro Bowlers Association?

1446
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: I think it's policeman's benevolent.

1447
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well here's the move back then, Like I

1448
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: remember my dad did this and it was savvy because

1449
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: you get one of those you do you do donate

1450
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: to the police, so you've done it, but you get

1451
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 3: the sticker that you put on your on your windshield

1452
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: or on the side, and then they when they when

1453
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: you get pulled over invariably for speeding, Like the first

1454
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: thing the cops see is that you donate to the

1455
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 3: police and they and you're on your way.

1456
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: Well, the other one, even if you're a guy, you're

1457
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a tricky move for people

1458
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't know who we're talking about.

1459
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: A PBA card.

1460
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: If you know someone that's a cop or is connected

1461
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: to a cop, you get one of these cards. And

1462
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: then the idea is if you ever get pulled over

1463
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: when they ask for license and registration, you can hand

1464
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: that over, but also hand this card or flash the

1465
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: card and if if a cop is cool with it,

1466
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: he'll be like, all right, it's the same as the stakes,

1467
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: like they you you want.

1468
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: This is even the stickers even more subtle. But then

1469
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 3: you then you have to make sure well you also

1470
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: can't have it on a window that rolls down. If

1471
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: the cops pliny offs. Gotta be some world yeah blast,

1472
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: they know where to look. Put it on the windshield.

1473
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: But he's coming from the side. All right, let's let's

1474
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: focus up. I was gonna mention we mentioned the Texans.

1475
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: I know, Greg, you've been following this. You are connected

1476
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: to Mother Japan in always uh.

1477
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: C J.

1478
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: Stroud and MICHAEH. Parsons doing their world tour and uh.

1479
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: The new video that's out there now is Micah Parsons

1480
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: sumo wrestling.

1481
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1482
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: And the first round the sumo wrestler, do you guys

1483
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: see this? Yeah, sumer wrestler thrashes him and then does

1484
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: like a rock in the baby thing to Micah. C J.

1485
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 3: Stroud almost like encourages the sumo wrestler to do that too.

1486
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: Parsons and then he definitely seemed like frenemies Micah and yeah.

1487
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: And then Micah and then Micah you know, hulks up

1488
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: and you know with the sumo wrestler doesn't realize that MIKEA.

1489
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 2: Parsons is one of the greatest athletes uh known to man,

1490
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: doesn't need direct and then even with no experience, he

1491
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: takes out the sumo wrestler in the second round. I

1492
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: don't know how that how that ended, but I saw

1493
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: I saw Micah get even. All right, let's take a

1494
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: break and we'll close things up. All right, we are back.

1495
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: We are closing up shop. We got one more show

1496
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: coming up on a Thursday, so make sure you tune

1497
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: in for that.

1498
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: One more thing I wanted to throw up here. We

1499
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: have our old friend.

1500
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: Remember we had a spirited conversation about Bob Kleinman when

1501
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: we were in Austin for the iHeart Awards. Yeah, there

1502
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: were a few drinks that we had that evening. As

1503
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: I recall, and I came out in casual conversation is

1504
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: very pro Dob Kleinman.

1505
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Well, because everyone was everywhere was piling on. So I

1506
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: think you trying to Okay, that's what I want, Shepherd.

1507
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 4: Remember your contrarian spirit which comes out and Dan sometimes.

1508
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: Sitting next to you for thirteen years. We'll do that.

1509
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: Let's throw up a tweet from Dob Kleinman. This is great.

1510
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: The Eagles are looking scary emoji of someone putting their

1511
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: hands over their face. Super Bowl incoming, and then it's

1512
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: just a bunch of the Eagles working out in the Yeah,

1513
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: no one has thought to lift weights yet.

1514
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is that these aren't overly advanced workouts.

1515
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: They look like what you achieve, you know, young men

1516
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: and women doing in the gym.

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Speaker 4: I think the I mean, certainly they're stronger, the different

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 4: than any other NFL team.

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Speaker 1: I think it's done the video evidence.

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Speaker 2: I think Bob on some ways his Twitter feed and

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: he Bob was really pumped up about the Tom Brady roast.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 2: Also, he's all over my fetus him he can chill

1524
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: out like you're spamming me on this. But Dob with

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: this tweet again, I have to give credit to to

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: what the Eagles have been able to pull off. The

1527
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: brainwashing is complete of public It's to the point now

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01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: where someone could send that tweet out and it's not

1529
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: even thought to be strange that they had maybe the

1530
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 2: worst collapse.

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 4: Well, he's getting history gotten for this tweet that Like,

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01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: why are you saying, yeah.

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01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: It's been so forgotten that Bob could send that out

1534
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: without even thinking that something bad happened at the end

1535
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: of the previous season that would maybe cause one to

1536
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: think that they wouldn't be obvious Super Bowl favorites.

1537
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: Well in a way, you had to love this. Thank

1538
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: you to literally.

1539
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Everyone who sent that to me, which is everyone on Twitter.

1540
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: I felt like sent me that Dove tweet.

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 3: You have to adore this because it backs up your

1542
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:20,879
Speaker 3: general offseason theory.

1543
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: And it's started that whole operation.

1544
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: It's so it's so like the theory has become so

1545
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: hardened now that it's it's bulletproof, like nothing can get

1546
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: through it.

1547
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: I did love first of all, the how Hee comments

1548
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: that look when they signed Saquon Barkley, we were zigging

1549
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 4: when the rest of the zagging.

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: I like that, But I'm.

1551
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: Giving a thirty year old running back with no I

1552
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: need twenty five million guaranteed.

1553
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: What is zig First of all, brilliant?

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Speaker 4: First of all, saquad Barkley is twenty seven years old.

1555
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 4: Let's not let's not get crazy. There is a running

1556
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 4: back tax plus three video put together that's part of

1557
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: the Eagles kind of like behind the scenes draft room

1558
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: of like it's almost like Howie porn essentially, and which.

1559
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: Is seriously the last porn one would ever want to watch.

1560
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 4: I would agree, And it's behind the scenes and people

1561
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: just were loving it. And our friend Evan Silva quote

1562
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 4: retweet it. You could check it out on his Twitter.

1563
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: Watch how he cook few smartest gm in the NFL.

1564
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 4: And it's just it's just even got that behind the

1565
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,520
Speaker 4: scenes and am looking Cooper Dizine.

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: They even got Evan Silva. Silva, that's where talked him

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01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: up a number.

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: But this is not the first year that he's been

1569
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: fascinated with the Eagle.

1570
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: The only thing, the only thing I need now is

1571
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: for Joel EMBII to guarantee the Eagles go to the

1572
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and that it is complete, the circle has

1573
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: been completed.

1574
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to worry about you are flushed

1575
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: with personal vendettas. You got it you had. I've been

1576
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: sitting next to you for thirteen years. I just see

1577
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: how I think, we see how you how you operate,

1578
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: you do Yeah, and you love it me for it.

1579
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: I almost wondered.

1580
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 3: They've they've asked if Shakespeare was quietly like twelve incredible authors,

1581
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: not one.

1582
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't buy into that at all. I think that's nonsense.

1583
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 3: But like maybe dove climbing is like sort of a

1584
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: a group of people.

1585
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: Because there's the tweeting is happening in twenty four to seven.

1586
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a shadowy figure I think based in Israel.

1587
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: We've been talking right across the sea. All right, let's

1588
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: book him on the show immediately. Eric, let's get to

1589
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: work on that. We can. All right, why are you

1590
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with Dob talk?

1591
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: You know, if you if you followed, if you're if

1592
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: you haven't mwed or blocked him, that's on you.

1593
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: You can't, I mean, you enjoy him.

1594
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: Dob's out there, you know, he's out there doing the

1595
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: Lord's work, aggregating away. Yep, you came from Pro Football Talk, Greg,

1596
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 2: that's an aggregator yourself.

1597
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 4: I came from Rohta World, the original, the originators of aggregation.

1598
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 4: All right, that's it, let's wrap it up. We had

1599
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 4: a code, final thought for you, Greg, We had a code.

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: We had a code. That's it.

1601
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: Important, man has a code. It's important. Insiders have a coat.

1602
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: Pie it all together.

1603
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: I have no regrets. All right till Thursday. See the

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Speaker 1: call