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Anyway, our program this evening begins 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:45.560 with an argument against arguing, an explanation of the many 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.240 tears of Heaven within the Mormon faith, and a performer 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.280 who finds himself without an audience is my NPR voice 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.440 I'm doing. Then after that we have a special guest 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.840 appearance from my sister who has donned the Therapy Gecko 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.000 uniform and will be assisting me with the brunt of 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.720 therapy geckon responsibilities later into the show. After that, we 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.000 speak with a woman who reads death certificates for a living, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.520 and then a man who ejaculates out of his own knee. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.320 As always, you can call the Therapy Gecko every Monday, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.280 Wednesday and Friday at ten pm Eastern Standard Time on 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.200 twitch dot tv slash lyle forever. Let's twitch dot tv 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.840 slash l y L E f O R e V 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.399 e R. All right, let's get to it. Oh and 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.880 also I have a six theme song now check this out. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.839 Goes on the line takes every night ever goes? 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.479 Who's teaching you. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.920 All? From? 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.520 Dixon? 0:01:59.040 --> 0:01:59.520 Dixon? 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:02.760 WHOA, I'm on? 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:10.400 I know it's it's how does How does that feel feels? 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:10.760 Uh? 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:12.320 Feels invigorating. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:19.120 I gotta say, what's your deal? Dixon? 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.640 I'll tell you what my deal is. My deal is 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:31.560 complacency makes me uncomfortable. So I get in a lot 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.360 of online arguments and I want to just spend on 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.480 how I can just stop myself. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.799 This is a classic well what are you getting done 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.160 on our. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:45.799 Uh? 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.520 Mostly stuff that won't change anyone's mind, like politics. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.400 See that's the thing. No no argument on the internet 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.280 has ever ended with when you argue with people on here, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.120 I mean like, oh, you know, actually here's here's you know, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:00.960 I actually think about this. Here's what I would do. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.480 Is like when you're like typing out a comment on 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.200 the internet to someone, like check your intentions right, Like, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.440 what are my intentions right now? Am i am? I 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.279 are my intentions to make someone mad? Or my intentions 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.960 to seek vengeance? 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:17.560 You know? 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.480 What are your intentions? Do you feel when you're getting 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.000 in these arguments with people on the internet. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.800 Well, it's funny. I used to be, you know, a 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.920 real trying to mean budhole about my political views, and 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.880 sure someone was mean to me, and then I stopped 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.440 being mean for no reason and having hateful views. So 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.280 in the back of my mind, I think maybe I 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.120 can just put that one on somebody and change their minds. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.720 But it mostly just ends in you know, shouting. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.400 You say you're trying to trying to change look, well, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.280 trying to change people's minds of your of your views, 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:58.680 like you're arguing with like, look, if you have, if 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.640 you have a way that you think other people should live, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.320 or that you think the world should function, and maybe 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.040 this is cheesy or whatever. You know, Look, man, you 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.960 gotta just you can't. You can't convince people to do 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.640 it in any other way. But then by you know, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.640 living it by example and you can't be out living 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.200 your life, by example, if you're on the computer arguing 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:21.640 with people. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.960 That's a great point. I like that. So you think 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.480 I should just go out be nice in the world 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.320 and maybe that'll change people's minds who can just see it. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.479 Maybe they want to do that too. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:39.040 Yeah, you know, there's some fucking quote out there. I 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.520 don't know if it's by the whatever, but if you 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:41.920 it's something like, if you want to change the world, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.360 you gotta change yourself. But yeah, you just want to 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.720 leave like that a lot, all right. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:49.760 I think that answers my. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.680 Question for sure. Man. It's it's it's that would be 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.719 a hard thing to get, you know, addicted to. But 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.480 but you know, stay strong, my dude, And thank you. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:00.920 I appreciate you calling in. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.880 Man much appreciate you. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.200 Take care, Take care man. By bad. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:14.960 Paul from Miranda Miranda. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.080 Oh hello, what can you do? 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:19.560 Miranda? 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.120 I'm I I can do paint. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:27.880 Where and with what. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:35.960 I can do paint near me, and I mean I can't. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.680 I can't paint from far away. I can't. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.000 I'm not getting far away because you know, that would 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.000 be a good skill to have, because I know lots 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.400 of people that can paint. I don't know lots of 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:45.760 people that can paint remotely. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.680 Yeah, I can. I can only paint close close to me. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:56.440 But I'm good at watercolor painting mm hm and and 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.880 some digital art. But I'm still I'm still learning. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.440 Can you paint with fire? And if you could? Would you? 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:04.599 You know? 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.400 I mean, I've seen those paintings are not like I 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.159 guess it's not really a painting, but it's like people 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:15.840 will use like gunpowder or something and then they light 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.839 it on fire and then it burns and like the 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.200 pattern of what they wanted to draw, And so I. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:22.080 Think I would do that. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.120 That sounds really cool. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.200 Have you ever been to Disney World. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.880 I haven't been to Disney World. If I've been to Disneyland, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:30.960 and it was pretty weird. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:32.440 Why is it weird? 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.320 I got paid to go because I read the Book 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:36.880 of Mormon? 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:39.640 What? 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.440 Yeah, Like, there was this rich Mormon lady who was 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:50.080 hosting like this big Disneyland trip and she paid for 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.280 ten people to go to Disneyland if they promised to 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.760 read the Book of Mormon. And so I did it 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.600 to go to disney Land, except the kind of didn't 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:03.440 actually do it. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:05.960 That's actually what I was about to ask you, is, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.839 how did they prove how did you prove that you 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.400 were able to that that you did it well? 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.640 So they were like supposed to ask your parents, and 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.040 like your parents were supposed to like give updates every 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.880 now and then, and so I just pretended like i'd 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.120 read it with my mom watching me. But I just 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.040 kind of zone out. 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.280 Okay, So at that point that doesn't make a lot 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.320 of sense to me, because all right, you're wait, that's 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.200 what So your mom would watch you literally she would 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.560 watch you hold the book open and stare at it. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.840 I mean she probably wasn't paying attention that well either. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:46.240 I think she had like burn notice on in the background. Okay, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.520 you know she looks over every now as a p 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.040 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeahyeah see. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.480 But at that point I get, I get not reading it, 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.960 looking up spark notes, lying about it, all that. But 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.520 at that point, if you're just sit and you have 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:10.040 the book, it would be less boring to actually read it. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.080 It's like when you're like stuck on the toilet without 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.600 your phone, so you start reading like shampoo bottles and shit. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.880 You know, it would be like but it would be 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.080 more more more exciting for you to actually read it 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.160 at that point. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.280 I mean, I guess I just it was just so boring, 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.120 Like it felt more boring to read it than to 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.800 zone out and just like have my own adventure in 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:33.240 my head. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.480 Okay, what was what was your alternative mental programming to 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:40.280 the Book of Mormon. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.319 I have no idea. This is when I was like twelve, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.439 so probably something involving like Pokemon or bay blades. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.800 They should they should put that in the Book of Mormon. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.240 They should have bay blades in there. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.600 I mean what they are like weird parts of the 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.720 Book of Mormon. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.000 Like I think, how would you know? You haven't read it. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.800 I mean, I've read parts of it. I grew up Mormon, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.720 But then I don't that shit's weird now. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.800 Though, tell me the weirdest part of the Book of Mormon. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:15.640 I mean, the one story that I thought of is 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:20.800 I'm pretty sure there's like a point where I think 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.760 someone like this, I think this dude's like guarding some sheep, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:30.160 and then some some dudes steal some of the sheep 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.720 and some then the guy cuts all of their arms off. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.559 That's a little funky. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.080 That sounds badass. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.600 It is pretty cool, but I think it's definitely a 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.680 strange punishment, like, Oh, you took some sheep, I'm gonna 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.160 take your arms. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.319 Yeah, it's like demented. That's like saw. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.320 Yeah, I guess that is a little bit like saw. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.760 Sounds like you missed that on reading the kind of 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.240 cool book. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.760 No, No, I've read parts of most of motiv Most 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.480 of it is pretty boring. I think the only like 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:13.160 really like fun part is when like there's so technically Mormon. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:17.400 Mormonism is mildly polytheistic, because if you're a really good 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.000 Mormon and you go to the top tier of Heaven, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.360 you get to like become God of your own universe. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.400 Ooh, I didn't know that heaven has tears in the 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:26.480 Mormon face. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:32.360 Yeah, there's like three tiers, and then there's like kind 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.760 of like a fourth tier. It's called spiritual prison, and 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.840 that's where you go where if you weren't Mormon on 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.199 earth and you have to like wait there until someone 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.960 baptizes your like dead body. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:46.880 Well, they don't actually. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.559 Baptize your dead body. They baptize like a living person 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.440 and then but they pretend like you're a dead person. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:53.600 You know. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.920 In Judaism, we only have one tier of heaven and 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:56.400 it's hell. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:03.800 Oh wait, what really, what you would you do? 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.280 If you're being honest with yourself? What tear of heaven 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.360 do you think you belong in? 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.120 Okay, well, so if I'm following what I learned from 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.160 when I was a Mormon, I'd probably end up in 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.920 a spiritual prison slash outer darkness. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.720 The worst one is that the is that the Z tier. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.640 That's the worst one, because I guess like one of 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.400 the big, big old bad sins is like learning about 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:38.000 Mormonism and then choosing to reject it. So technically, technically 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.240 i'd end up like in outer darkness with like Hitler. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.320 But right now a little bit, you're kind of you're 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.920 kind of fucking us right now a little bit because 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.360 oh no, no, you're fucking with right now because because 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.160 now we're fucked now, Miranda. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.040 No, you guess it would be one thing if we. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.680 Were ignorant of it, but now we all know about it, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.200 and so if we choose to reject it, we're going 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.439 to be hanging out with you and Hitler. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.600 No, no, you haven't. You guys haven't seen Okay, No, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.360 I got baptized and then rejected it. You guys, weren't 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.440 baptized and have rejected it. Y'all, y'all still have a chance. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.840 I'm gonna just pretend like we didn't hear any of this. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.559 Okay, this is this is between you and me. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.080 Okay, Well, no, I don't want to I don't want 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.439 to be in it either, because now I don't. I 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.640 don't know I'm gonna go to Hell. Well whatever, I 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.640 was going to hell anyway, so I don't. It doesn't matter. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.000 You've streamed from Hell. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.360 It's true. I've been there. They know me there. I've 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.720 got friends there. It's not such a bad place. But listen, Miranda. Yes, 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.400 I appreciate you calling in and sharing your story. Thank 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:45.760 you very much for for for enlightening us and for 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.520 you know, getting us all you know. Well, at least 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.600 now we know where we're going. This is. Yeah, there's 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.760 there's comfort in that. I appreciate you, Miranda. I'll talk 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.640 to you again soon, Okay. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.360 I love you, talk to you soon too. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.640 All from Daniel. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:15.920 Daniel Daniel, Hello Daniel Daniel. I've been all alone, Daniel. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:22.600 I've been trapped in this cave for days, no water, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.439 no place to go to, the damn bathroom. This smells 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.080 in here, and and and I'm and I'm relieved, Daniel, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:38.080 you're relieved. I wipe the I metaphorically wipe the sweat 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:43.080 from my brow in response to your presence, because I 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:44.920 am relieved that you have come to save me. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.040 I'm so very glad I could be of use. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.080 To you, Daniel. I have a question for you. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.120 What is that question? 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.960 What is your deal? Daniel? 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.920 My deal, Gank is that I am a performer with 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:06.360 had an audience. Before this pandemic hit the world, I 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.600 was performing in front of people live on a weekly basis, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.560 and now I find myself performing to a microphone and 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:18.760 finding very little enjoyment from it. And my question to 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.920 myself is always was I just seeking validation? Was I 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.800 just seeking applause? Or is there actual worth to the 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.200 endeavor of the performance itself? 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:31.520 Oh? 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.800 I actually love this question. What do you perform? 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.480 I did musicals when I was on page, and now 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.040 mostly I do voice acting. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.520 You were like you you were like a musician, like 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:47.680 you were in a band, or you were like a 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.720 performer in like musicals. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.360 I was a performer in musicals. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.160 And so you say you have a microphone, you do 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.080 like voice acting? Do you ever, you ever like live 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.320 stream or make talks or anything like that. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.360 See, I've tried, and I feel so vain. And I 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.880 don't know whether that's pride or whether that's my own 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:16.720 self censorship. But I can't stand live streaming myself. I 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:21.480 can't stand just putting myself out there to that point 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.880 where all there is is me. I'm not speaking to 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.480 someone else's text, It's just my own words. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:35.160 Hmmm. So you can't get over this like idea of yourself, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.280 you know, feeling like it's feeling like the idea of 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.680 streaming yourself or the idea of putting yourself out there 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:43.200 is vain. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:50.160 Yes, yes, the idea of that expression of the self 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:57.480 is instead more self flagellating. That not flashlating. That's the 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:04.520 wrong word. It's almost masturbatory. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.800 You know, as someone who is currently streaming themselves on 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.840 the internet, I have these exact same thoughts. Oh no, 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.840 I have these exact same thoughts all the time. I do. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.680 I've had. I mean, I'm you know, throughout my whole 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.040 sort of life of making things, I have these thoughts 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:27.200 constantly of like, is making shit masturbatory? And I think 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.560 it is? It kind of is. But so what I 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.880 guess I've gotten over it. 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.240 You know, it's a little and here's here's also the 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.400 thing is that like what exactly is wrong with masturbation 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.600 is is the issue of like what where is where 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.160 is the thing that is wrong with taking pleasure in 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.120 yourself and being yourself? 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.120 I agree, dude, that's a great way to put it. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.880 You know, you know, all right, this is gonna all right, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.440 I'm gonna get a little meta here. But you know, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.920 it's worked for me. And I don't know how this. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.439 I don't know how this could apply to you, but 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.800 maybe it could. But I thought this is exactly what 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.680 worked for me to get over that. All right, So 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.080 this stream, this is therapy gecko, right, but it's really 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:19.560 just me talking. This is me. But I don't feel 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.399 like if my stream, like if my stream, if the 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.240 stream were me, not in a costume, just talking as Lyle, 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:33.359 as me, and if it was called like the Lyle 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.600 Advice Hour or something that would make me want to 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.359 throw up, I would I would think that would be 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:43.040 the most masturbatory thing ever. So I'm sort of hiding 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.120 I've been able to deal with that by doing it 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:56.080 not as me, but as kind of a character which 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.280 you know, and I wonder if there's a way that 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.320 you could kind of do that too, if that makes sense. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.720 Yeah, it does. It does. You give yourself a mask 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:11.679 by which you can portray your more authentic self, but 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:18.080 when it is seen by the audience, it doesn't necessarily 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.679 give the idea of like, oh, this is Lionel talking. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.320 It gives you not only just some defense, but it 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.280 allows you yourself to feel comfortable because there is some method, 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.800 there is some barrier that protects you. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:39.320 Yes, percent, Yeah, I think if you could, if you 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:45.239 could find what that is for yourself, you know, like 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.199 even like you said, you're a voice actor, right, like 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.520 you could fucking make tiktoks, you could live stream as 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.280 a puppet or like a VR character. I mean, when 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.080 you're acting in musicals, you know you you're you're an actor. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.680 You play characters, so you do, you know, so it 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.639 wouldn't be out of your element. I think for you 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359 to don some kind of character, some kind of alter 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.160 ego through which you can portray elements of your true 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.280 self without actually being one hundred percent out there. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:17.840 Sure enough, sure enough. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.040 I don't know exactly what that would be for you, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.400 but you know, look, if you're if you're, if you're 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:29.240 you're an actor, you know your work is not being 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.920 portrayed through you, It's it's you as a character. That's 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.520 what actors do. You know, Leonardo DiCaprio in his movies, 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.800 he's not Leonardo DiCaprio, He's the bear guy or whatever. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.520 Yeah. No, I love how the chant is descended into 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:43.840 a David Lynch discussion. 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:53.119 Uh but but no, I totally understand your dilemma. Man, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.919 I've had that exact same thing. Like, I couldn't do 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.120 this stream if. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:58.560 It was just. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:05.080 Was the Lyle Advice show. That would make me. I 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.120 hate that, you know, it would it would It would 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:13.760 feel too maspiratory. So the mask of a character, you know, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.680 helps a lot. I think I think you might want 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.960 to explore that. See what that you know, see what 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.760 that it could lead to for you. 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.359 Yeah, yeah, well, thank you, thank you Lyle. 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:31.280 Absolutely, Man, you have a good rest of the you too, 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:39.919 take care of many. You know, geckos make a sound. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:47.120 There's no geckos make a sound. They go. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:21:00.080 All from Nate, Nate. 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:03.600 What's going on? 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:10.080 Man? You know, not a lot. I'm in the cave 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.119 and I was playing on leaving the cave. But I 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.320 was like, you know what, let's do one more call 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.840 because it's only nine million. What year is it? What 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:19.720 year is it, Nate? 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:26.360 Yoh, I don't even know. Man, It's twenty twenty year 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.919 of the virus. I'm sitting here watching Gek on the screen. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.359 I'm like, let me call him up. Let me tell 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.560 him what the deal is. You know what I mean? 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.480 Well, Nate, now's your shut and now's your chance. Now's 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.000 your opportunity. Now's the chance for you to reach out 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.000 and take it. Tell me, Nate, what's the deal? 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.240 The deal? Deal? 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:48.560 Man? 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.480 Yeah, listen to real talk. I'm really worried about my 0:21:52.520 --> 0:22:01.200 little brother. Dude. All right, you remember when the pandemic started, 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.280 and you know, I don't know if you're on Tender 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.560 at that point in time, but they opened up you know, Tender. Yeah, 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.879 they opened up Tender right to like the whole world, right, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:17.720 all right. So he met he met this girl and 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:27.679 in uh Quebec, yeah, Quebec, you know, and uh and 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.480 and you know they've been he spends every night talking 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.560 to this girl and like he's like he's like really 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.760 in love with this girl, you know. And it's been 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:43.280 it's been it's been like several months now, and his 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:49.160 life just revolves around talking to this girl and like 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.760 like I don't know what to do. 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:51.040 Man. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:55.600 He he this girl is coming to him and she's 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.120 flying down to spend like three weeks with him, and 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.639 like he like wants to move up there, you know, 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.959 to sit to Quebec and have have your dad get 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.480 him his job and stuff. I'm just like the thing 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.639 is he's taking it really seriously and then he's just 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.240 like ignoring other parts of his life. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:15.480 You know. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.840 It's like I feel like I feel like he doesn't 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:22.159 have his own his passion, you know, he he he is, 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.400 He's a dependent and and I don't know what to do. Man, 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:28.040 I'm not to do. 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:36.320 I don't know, man. I mean, you know what what 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.040 have you done already done already? 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.920 Well, you know, I cautioned him. I was like, hey, man, 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.879