WEBVTT - Black Music Month QLS Classic: Biz Markie 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.720 Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.040 was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.120 What's Up, Everybody, It's Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. June 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.800 marks Black Music Month. We often speak about it on 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.720 Questlove Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.400 for the recognition on the show. Every day this June, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.360 we are running a different episode from the QLs archives 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.400 to honor the tradition and intent of Black Music Month. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.600 This week we are focusing on some of the great 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.800 hip hop conversations that ULS catalog. Our leader Questlove has 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.480 a new book out called hip Hop Is History. Check 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.920 it out at questlove dot com. This is a conversation 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.480 with the late Bizmarquis that first aired in the summer 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.840 of twenty seventeen. The Biz may he rest in peace 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.800 or bring a brand of authentic but funny hip hop 0:00:50.040 --> 0:01:02.360 to so many audiences? 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:09.840 Supreme Supremo role called Suprema sun So Supreme role called 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:17.319 Supreme Supreme role called Supreme Supreme Roll. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.800 So Bob Jeames Bellis, Marty gri Biz claims the song 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.959 yeah Survey sas. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:31.000 Yeah Sure, Supreme role called Supreme. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.680 So Supreme role, Call my name is Fante. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:39.520 Yeah, I like to bawl, Yeah, because my house is 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:40.440 the average square. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:49.360 Mall Supreme Supreme role called Suprema So Supreme role called. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.800 My name is Sugar with bizmar Key. Yeah, and this 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.560 is roll call. Yeah, nobody beats me. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:05.040 Supreme Upprema, roll called Suprema Son Son Supremo. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.320 Roll called Bill. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:11.320 Yeah, rahaps to do yea shout out to bismarcky. Yeah, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.160 men in black two roll call Suprema. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:21.720 Son Supremo, roll call Suprema Son Supremo roll loost Bill. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:26.960 I am yeah, not a Republican. I just wanted to say, yeah, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:27.919 fuck GILBERTL. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:37.120 Sullivan Supreme roll call, Suprema So Supreme roll call. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:37.919 It's slight. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:38.320 Yeah. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.119 Yeah about this paper. Yeah, y'all better watch out. Yeah, 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:44.200 y'all get them. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.880 Supreme landing on time, So Supreme. There was turbulus in 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:50.520 the middle. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.200 Vers Son Supremo roll called. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.240 I am the Amazon. Yeah, I'm with the Sugars. Yeah. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.720 And what I do, Yeah, I'm picking good. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:16.280 Supremo roll Supremo, Supreme Suprema Supremo, roll call, Suprema Supremo 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.119 roll call. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.160 Yeah. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:28.280 Wow, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Quest 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.560 Love Supreme only on Pandora. I am Quest Love with 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:36.000 me Team Supreme. We got a fun tig alow in 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.760 the place. Uh, tik tig. I gotta go old school 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.480 with the names. What with the double names? Oh yeah, Ti, Yeah, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:42.240 take Ti. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:48.720 And then that's really cool cool. We gotta unpaid Bill. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.640 How you doing, man, I'm great, You're great, fucking excited, 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.760 you're fucking excited. Markey is here, of course, of course 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.760 he is, Sugar Steve. You're doing better. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.720 I'm great, man, I'm great. How great are you? Average? 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.320 Grade medium? 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.680 Medium, extra medium? 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.640 And we got Boss Bill in the place to be 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:14.000 How you doing? And uh liyah ak Margaret and our 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:19.200 guest today, ladies and gentlemen, is probably probably next to 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.039 ll cool J, one of the timeless figures in hip 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.719 hop culture that has transcended decades. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.240 Uh. It's never going. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:35.360 Stale always uh, you know, around doing stuff and it's 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.320 I mean, you can call him a pioneer, you can 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.479 call him an innovator, you can call him a pop 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:46.520 culture collector, historian. Uh, you could call him everything. But 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:55.000 most importantly, you got a bollicle the diabolical. Welcome to 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.240 Chluss loves abree Yeah. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.440 Crash, what's up? What's up with you? Know? 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.960 Glad, I'm glad I'm here with you. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.000 So Biz, I don't ever recall you doing an in 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.839 depth interview ever. Like it's like we all know you, 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.560 You're ubiquitous, You're everywhere, but I don't know if we 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:20.600 really know your story. I'm into the to the level 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.400 that we should know it. But I do know that 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.560 everyone that speaks of you that I work with, and 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:31.680 I've worked with, everyone has the highest level of respect 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.160 for your you know, your your contribution and and and 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.520 all your knowledge of hip hop. So thank you for 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:41.880 for doing the show with us today. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.600 Oh come on, you know I couldn't let it turn 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:44.560 it down? All right? 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.200 So before we start your story, we we got to 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.800 get to the elephant in the room. Just admitted business. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.840 There is no bellis mind there? 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:55.640 Wait? 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.640 Business? 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:58.440 Can I explain? 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.200 Wait before we like, do you know? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:02.440 Okay? 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.120 See I always have to ask like you first and 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.000 then I know the public now, but wait, let me explain, 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.240 Let me explain the premise of it. This has inadvertently 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:18.560 created uh pop culture collectors in all of us. I'll 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.200 say that the very first person that I've ever heard 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:28.760 of buying out factories, uh, buying additional houses for their 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:36.680 collections of be it toys, dolls, board games, uh, clothes, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:42.600 old videotapes, old movies, records, forty fives old machine like 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.279 the basically what my house is now, like about the 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:53.279 black version of the forty year old version, all your crap, yes, 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.640 for yes, all the stuff that we've had, the rummings 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.280 through business, business. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.000 To the reason that you're the reason he has eighteen 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.880 storage units right now pretty much. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.200 But I mean there's a bunch of us. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.960 But the thing is is that it. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.120 Starts with it starts with Biz claiming that there's a 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.280 record out there that we all turned the earth over 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.040 for it and never seem to find, and only Bizz 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.080 quote has it. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:31.360 So yes, now, everyone, you record, you're recorder. You recorded records, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.960 right of course, Now when you went to master it. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.000 Have you ever had a record that was mastered that 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.400 you didn't want because it was it was the wrong 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.360 sound or something wasn't right. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:48.960 Yes, yeah, I've you know what, Yes, Okay, there's an 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.360 original version of Michael Jackson's Off the Wall that does 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.400 not have the handclaps and rock with you that I 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:54.600 later found out that. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:59.160 Was now they got to make the music the same way. Okay, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:05.280 where it's no it's no bells, it's just the drums. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.800 With the shakers. Okay, we scrapped that. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.640 There was only there was only thirty five. There was 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.040 only thirty five to fifty put out of make the music. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.840 It was EP. Okay, some people got it. But the 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.680 thing is, I'm trying to tell you the original EP, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.160 the original EP with the black and white Coca Cola. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.720 But there's two different ones. Okay, there's one with the 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.520 with the Isaac Hay's and there's one that's don't got 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.080 the Isaac case and I got Isaac Hays in the 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.079 middle with with the with the hook, the version that's 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.480 on the record now with the Madi Grad. I don't 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.240 know where I got it from. I'm not a snitch. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.280 It's thirty years later. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:54.520 You know you're not no no, no, no no on 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.280 your record dealer is listen to me? Listen what was saying? Yes? 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.960 So the MAIGHTI Grad? Since everybody know Madi. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.040 Grad a live record, it is, yes, Maighty Guard is 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.440 a live record. You can hear the people talk play 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.559 on Mighty gra mad Gud you can hear the people 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:09.760 talking in the background. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.280 Well that I assume asking Bob James that was the 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.079 sound effects of a bunch of animals. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:23.280 And back in the day, Bob James and all of them, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.679 I was. It was finally when I place. Wait, a 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.079 lot of musicians back then, don't remember. You're gonna tell 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.040 me you get right, you get splotched right now. He 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.160 couldnt sing Family of Fair the way he's singing you right, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:42.360 I don't know. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.320 Listen to me. I don't know how many of them out. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.280 Listen to me. I don't know how many of them 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.400 are out. But when I got it, I had it 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.320 since the nineties. It's like an acetate, okay, okay, So 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.240 when I got it and I battled this dude name 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.520 top Speed in Indianapolis. No top Speed, you know, Okay, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.920 when I put it on, then everybody started talking about it. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:12.520 So you're saying, all right, just to let just let. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.079 Mark mark redon marg. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.760 I feel like I had twelve rounds, I know. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.160 And there's twelve Like a lot of people don't think 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.800 there's twelve inches of Mardi Gras one sided. They do, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:30.800 got Mardi Gras twelve inches real on ct I one sided. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.200 My man Supreme the Rock from Seattle got him. I 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.319 got him, A couple of us got him. I'm just 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.679 letting you know, all right. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.040 I'm gonna play you. You would know it as the 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:47.640 Peter Piper bells, one of the things you do so basically. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.600 Now Biz claims he has a version of Marti Grau 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.400 without the bells and it just the drums, thus sending 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:05.040 us into a fineinancial tail spin. I put off Brodick. No, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.600 it's for real, like I joke about it. But you know, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.800 it's when when you get in this industry, football players, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.480 sports people, the first the first person besides yourself that 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:21.760 you treat for is your mama. In my never ending 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.840 bid to find this record and acquiring all the other records, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.240 well I can't find well I'll take these. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.960 I'll take these. I'll take these. I'll take one record. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.000 I know I put off by my mama's house, but 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:35.280 to search. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.760 It's one record. I'm a person that has one of 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.760 the most extensive record collections that you ever will see. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.160 I know how many records you got that you never 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:44.840 seen people with? 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:48.680 Probably got fourteen. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.600 No, you got no, no, no. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.200 I've talked about how many records that you bought that 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.720 you never seen nobody else with. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.559 I know for a fact that I have fourteen one 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.360 of ones, like something that no one else will have 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:00.840 but me. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.599 I got like at least I know you got a 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.880 I got like at least two three thousand. I never 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.840 seen nobody. I never see nobody puss. Right, that's like 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.079 when people when I came out at the park with 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:14.320 my SL seven hundred. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.480 Yes I'm from I got you. Look. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.480 Look as soon as. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.040 I've been you've been saying, father, I'm sighting with them. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.719 These are old man I'm fighting with Do you want 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.720 me to do? I can't make them do something. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.400 It sounds like he has he said as it sounds 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:30.440 like it's a test pressing. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.720 What happened is it's a mistake. You know how if 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.160 you listening something and something you don't hear, and then 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.440 you go back and do it over. Come on, you know, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.920 come on, I have no I have no reason to 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.240 lie about one record. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:49.360 I'm just saying, well, since we're talking about it, we 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:57.160 might as well do a special dish and not business. Yes, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.880 the one time only a busy guess. So since you 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.280 the record master, we do this thing where we have 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.280 producers on the show identify songs now, normally with Tip 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.679 and Primo and I've done Snares or just but with you, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:16.079 I'm we're doing the doctorate degree course on this. I'm 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.679 gonna give you not even half a second, Biz, not 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:26.280 even not even half a second. Looks it's like this 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.760 is easy, and I'm doing stabs. I'm not even doing 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.120 Snares kicks or high hats. I'm doing stabs. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:32.240 Biz. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:33.120 What is the song? 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:39.080 Oh that's that's some engine number nine. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:48.760 I'll play it again. Nope, yes, yeah, uh. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:55.040 I hear that the the the bongos. I can't I 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.439 know the record? I just. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:03.400 All right, oh outside even count. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.560 First of all, all the DJs used to play play 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.920 south Side Movement on forty five. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.600 Okay, we'll get it plus record and plus give me 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.319 give me a story about the recordse I know you 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.120 have some weird story about well. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:23.040 First of all, back in eighty one or eighty, they 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.880 used to have a record store called Downstairs Records. Yes, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.720 I've heard it on forty second Street and eighth downstairs 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.200 sn Roy l Roy used to be. It used to 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.560 be like a thing. It used to be thing right here, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.240 He used to stand on aside the records on the wall. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:45.000 That album went for like ten dollars just. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.520 The single loan or know the hour the album that 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.240 it came from, and it said moving on it. Okay, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.240 I mean, I know, Wait what do you mean still 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.360 there Steve record in the subway? 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.240 Right? Yeah, that's not it's not it's a different one. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.040 Oh okay, okay, that was after a while, it moved 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.960 up it moved upstairs, then it moved to forty third Street. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:11.320 All right, here's your second one. Biz mm hmmm, whoa 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:12.880 mm hmmm. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.880 I can't do it. That's too short. M hm. So 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:29.760 when it's all done, all right, come on, man, come on, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:38.600 let's breakthrough truck Turner and any breakthrough stories breakthrough. First 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:46.400 time I heard breakthrough was Vambada and Jazzie Jay was 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:51.440 cutting it in the park where Uh Bronx Bronx River 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.800 Bronx River a Zoo Nation Anniversary. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.800 Okay, this is your third record. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:08.560 Oh I know what that is. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.680 I know what it is. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.000 I know the record. I can't think of it right now, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.000 I know the record? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:17.800 All right? 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.760 Uh bad White, no, no, no, maybe that's how bouncing 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:30.080 Bouncy La Stutch yourself off out a details of. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.120 The first time I got the first first time I got. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.800 The Bouncy Bouncy Lady albums was from King Carroll, who 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.360 was a record store because downstairs, I mean, uh Flash 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.880 was cutting it one time and it sold out a downstairs, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.920 so I had to go down the street to King 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:54.000 Carroll on forty third, I mean forty second between seventh 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:54.480 and six. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:59.080 So I'm assuming that all the records that I initially 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.439 first acquired on the Ultimate Beats and Breaks compilations you 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:11.320 got firsthand because you were first generation witnessing Flashing on. Okay, cool, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:16.240 all right, here's your fourth record, Come. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.760 On, that's Get Out of My Life woman, Lee Dors. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.119 Were you the first to use that? 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:23.600 Day? 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.040 Last Soul used their first, but they used the fast. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.800 And I know you bad. That's right, that's right, that's right, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:32.320 that's right. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.800 Okay, so they used it for the baseball joint on. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.000 Yeah, but just a freak album. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.240 That album. All right, here's your last record, buz in 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:43.080 Round one. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:45.600 Of business. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:56.440 You guessed it sounds like a Q tip record. I'll 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:04.679 I'll do a little pre roll for you. This is 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.200 so easy. I'm picking the easiest breaks of all time. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:15.040 Oh wow wow, okay, yeah, Superman Love everybody text. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.560 But the thing is I never looked at Superman Love 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:24.560 as a break really, so it was not. The intro 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.000 was never rhymed over, and. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:27.520 That wasn't a break. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.160 Really, breaks is like scratching. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.840 I can't so stuff between one hundred and ten bpms 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.000 and faster, you. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.200 Know, I mean, I don't know about the speed. I'm 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.720 just saying. Records that you know. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.720 Had naked drums, right, naked drums. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.359 You had to have like mighty guad nautilists, you know 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.480 what I mean. Pe Life you got that right, Yeah, 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:52.680 of course I have that. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.320 That was around one of BIZ and we'll come with 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.200 a part two later. All right, So, Biz, where were 0:18:59.240 --> 0:18:59.800 you born? 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.040 I was born in Harlem and Colonial Projects. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:05.640 You're from Harlem. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.080 Then I moved away when I was ten to Long 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.199 Island and I grew up in Long Island, I was, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.879 I mean, I lived in patriog You know, so you 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:21.480 because I've heard Jersey and her Brooklyn, Jersey, I feel. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:22.359 Like you lived everywhere. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:29.800 No, I moved to Jersey after records. I stayed with 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.600 my sister a little in Brooklyn in like eighty three, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.520 and then eighty four is when I met Marley and them. Okay, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:37.320 and then. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.840 So what I mean, did you aspire to be a 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:44.760 DJ at first? 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:45.199 Or like? 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.439 What was I told I had to make records? I 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.439 got bored with rap to why records? Like you had 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:52.720 a father that was a collector? 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:52.879 Or? 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.480 You like, how did you use to. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.080 Play with Cold Traine? And then back in the day, Wow, 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.840 you're a jazz kid. Life used to play. My pops 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.640 used to play with you know, back in the back 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:09.760 in the sixties and fifties. So but I know, I'm 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.960 just a I was just a collector. I started collecting. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:21.480 My first forty five was Ben Okay. So then when 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.000 when hip hop came out? Like my man when I 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.400 was in Long Island in seventy eight, my man bought 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.680 an El Brother's tape out, you know, grant with a theater. 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.120 So I got bit by the bug after that. What's 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:37.520 your dad's name? So Royal Hall. Yeah, he played saxophone. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.080 Steve's resident jazz Fetish. 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.679 I'm gonna tell you another person father that used to 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.320 play in the clubs jazz and stuff, Martin Sheen. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.640 V Martin she President, Martin she. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:01.119 Wow. Back in the day, I mean, that's my postuma, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.520 because back then you could go to them things in 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.480 Manhattan little clubs and playing uh you know what I mean, 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:16.640 his father or him him? Oh wow, oh wow, that's 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.800 about here, about in his early thousands right now. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.440 No, but wow, I never knew what did he play? 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:29.520 He said. No, I'm just telling you. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.959 He told me. Oh, you don't know what instrument he played, piano. 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:37.760 I just know he played or he was dead anyway 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.080 from my mom. Don't lie about that. I'm gonna bring 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:42.719 his name up. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.120 You know, it's it's it's it's rather random to bring 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.360 it up. So it look everything you tell me, I'm 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.760 taking for your word. Biz, I'm just saying I just 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:57.440 never found the money record. But I digress anyway. 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.640 So I never found turntables either. 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.520 We've seen the evidence of the turntables. It could be 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.760 photoshop though true the turn. 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.120 Oh so Biz has a pair of techniques that only 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:15.719 play forty fives? Oh wow, yeah, I mean ill, but 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.480 no one else can get them. But Biz, why they wait? 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.640 Why is that I'm skipping all over your timeline? Why 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.959 do you have these? First of all, what happened when 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:25.160 the techniques make these? 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:30.160 Yeah, technique, what happened was back in the day before, 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:31.960 like eighty eight. 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:34.000 You've had these since? 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:39.080 Oh no, I'm telling your story. Back in the day before. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:41.840 They were going to put them out like in the eighties, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.280 but then the CD boom came and everything, so they 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.320 scrapped them. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.480 And what these are just in the factory. 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.760 Like So when I went out to Japan to do 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:59.040 Yo Gabba Gabba, damn, I started having you got somebody 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.359 great grandson and then your gaba gap is the kids. 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.240 I'm hanging with them. So hey, they brought me to 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.159 the factory and I saw so many turntables that was incredible. Wow. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.600 So I saw them and they was in the corner. 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.720 So I made a lot of trades for that. 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.119 All right, Before I go back to your timeline, I 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:22.080 might as well go there, biz. Okay, your house of 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:23.719 records are on fire. 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:26.639 Knock on the wood your. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.480 House of okay, well, knock on wood whatever. Your house 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:36.280 of records are on fire. Okay, what five records are 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:37.800 you going to save? 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.560 I mean one of them is bartigraphs. 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:52.600 Which five records from your burning house on fire? Are 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:53.280 you going to save? 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:02.800 My devotion live forty five to who? Yeah? 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:11.160 Wait, there's a forty five of devotion on from Gratitude live, Yeah, 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:11.840 from Gratitude. 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:12.600 Tap your hands. 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.800 That's on forty five. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Okay, your house 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:23.080 is burning. By the way, this is sounds cent of fire, 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:26.800 burning house on fire. 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.960 My team plays are cool on forty five. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.399 There's a tea plays cool forty five. 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.800 Are these promo cops? Like? Are they promo copies? Google it? 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:38.480 You got it right there? Team plays cool. 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:39.679 I'm looking I'm looking them up. 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:40.320 I'm looking them up. 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.919 Are these like white label promo promo copies or regular? 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.359 I got one? That is is an EP? It's on 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:47.760 Tape Car Records. 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:55.639 Tape Car Records, look it up EP. I gonna be 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.240 lit this episode. 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.080 About when when? 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.119 When he pull it up, I want I want to 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:09.679 apology ahead, dude, go ahead, buzz I'm believing that. 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.760 Wait wait wait wait, here's he plays a cool forty 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.040 five from the UK. Oh no, from Turkey. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:21.440 Excuse me, I tell you your Turkey there too, so 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:22.120 go ahead. 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.880 Oh I gotta find that's your fire. 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:33.240 That's my fire? 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.480 Well all right, the rest gonna burn. 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:40.960 Business as many records you've got. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:45.440 Like, I can't it's too plays Muhammad. I leave forty five. 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.880 Okay, I've seen, Yes, I've seen that one. Yes, I've 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:51.560 seen that. 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:53.600 Because it's signed. 0:25:54.440 --> 0:26:04.840 Uh, I can't think of that now. Damn. There's too 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:05.760 many records. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.199 You're like, you're like forty fives more than more than LPs. 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.159 Your forty fives got the reason I started DJing with 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:18.679 forty fivest all these records, milk, they. 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.520 Had its time. What about your other artifacts? 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.800 What you didn't say that, you just said record. 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.199 So now, Biz, your house, your your artifacts house is burning. 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.359 What are you saving? I'm taking my two pair of 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.760 SL seven hundreds, one with the curve on, one with 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.480 the straight arm. I'm taking my Flashes beat box that 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:41.080 he gave me. 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.800 Oh you own a beat box? Yes, yeah, he gave 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:46.560 that to you. 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:47.080 Yeah. 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.560 Fuck, he gave me the name I got it. 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:57.800 Biz, Can you reveal what that drumming scene is? Biz? 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.000 Look, I want you. 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.320 I can't keep from the world. 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.600 I want you and Pete Rock. But Business, what you 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.320 gotta understand is you've seen and this is the fire 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:08.879 still burning. 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.399 But you want to how you want to know? 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.600 How you want to stop me from getting my stuff? 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.480 As you got the fire burning, I'm setting the fire. 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:19.920 And to help you save it at the same time. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:20.320 Biz. 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.360 But wait, this is what I'm saying now. I can 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:28.600 see back in eight boards. I can see back in 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:33.080 eighty eighty nine ninety when it was a breathless race 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.160 to the finish to find some illshit and. 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.639 Then recreate some But this started from eighty one to 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.000 eighty two. So I'm older than y'all, so I know. 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.800 But listen, here's the point now. But we can agree 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.680 that you utilized it to its n degree between the 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:56.520 late eighties and the mid arts, either by sampling, making records, 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.920 or playing it for us in concert as a DJ. 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.639 So what I'm saying is you do acknowledge in twenty 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.640 seventeen there is a somewhat of a drought going on 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.360 in hip hop culture as you know it now. I'm 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.240 not saying that everything should stay the same, nothing else 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.600 to change. Yes, I love the the you know, the 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:26.320 evolution of musical culture. But I would almost rather someone 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.920 that's listening to this program search for that flash drum 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.399 machine so they can. 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:33.040 Go out and make some. 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.880 Why you and Bete are the most secretive people, But 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:41.320 how are we secret? 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.280 Because we got something we want everybody to have. I 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:46.680 have a definition of seapop. 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.960 I know what makes you, we know what makes you unique. 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.520 But when you want after, okay. 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.520 We don't tell everybody everything you got, I do. No, 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:57.720 I don't share. 0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:58.320 I know you. 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.800 I'm not talking about share an m P three F 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.320 take people, I'm not talking about m P three five. 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:12.000 Look mic f come on, I'm saying, my son, I'm 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.760 staying this record though, I'm staying this. 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:15.280 For the record. 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.160 I understand that I've taken about I've taken about maybe 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:24.560 two hundred people in my lifetime, record shopping being shopping, Like, 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:26.400 why keep it alltimate? 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:31.400 No? I just took like two thousand, three thousand, all right? 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.800 Just saw, Hey you got. 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.720 A Jogi, Jeff, you gass cash? 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:38.080 Money? 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.040 Can I ask on flash gags? 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.040 Vaughn? You got your boy? 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:44.400 Why shot? 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:47.320 Yeah? 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:51.280 We can't reach it. We can't reach Primo wanted me 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.640 to call him on the show. My man, I know what, son, 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.280 He told me all the questions to ask you. 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:58.600 But I'm just saying. 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.160 That he just share it with you and then it'll 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.240 be cool for me. 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.720 But I can't tell you. I can't let the world 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:08.880 some secret. 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:09.680 You can't just. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.720 Is it more important? Is it more. 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.760 Important for you to make your unique mark on the world, 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.960 or is it more important that on your dying day, 0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.440 your deathbed, that you know that there's ten biz marquis 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.840 like disciples that are. 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:31.360 Going to die. 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.080 I'm kidding, You're gonna be yours? Could you put it? 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:46.920 All right? 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.800 Just go back to Harlem's. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.840 His house burning down, You got him dying, He's still 0:30:58.880 --> 0:30:59.560 not giving it up? 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.480 What alright? Being flashy like Oh, I thought you was 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:09.680 gonna tell nobody. God, it'd be like that Twilight Zone 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.160 when that lady said I want that dude said to 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.520 the lady, don't never tell nobody or the Devil's gonna coming. 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:31.720 Maybe did not tell you? Alright, alright, alright? So in Harlem, when. 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.040 Did you first started collect You got your first record 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.720 when you was what the forty five? 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.080 It wasn't it wasn't hip hop. I just got yeah, Ben. 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.760 You gotta start somewhere. So when did the bug hit 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:46.320 you that yo? I was it DJing first or was 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.160 it mc and or box? All right, now I know you. 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:57.000 I want you to set the record straight on the 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:03.600 who was the first cat that you heard? Or are 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.600 you that first cat? Who's the first cat to go 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.200 on record to say, this is the beat box. 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.720 The first, the first one I heard besides me, Yes, 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:20.480 with Dougie. So doug is the original human beat box. Yeah, 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:21.600 that's the first one I ever. 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.040 So where does Buffy fall in line of Buffy? He 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:24.840 was just the first to. 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.000 Get to everybody's from different places. 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.320 Buffy was from Brooklyn. 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:34.040 That's why me and a Dougie and Buffy never sound 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.760 the same. Is from different places, so you would never 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:41.080 know I'm fromand I'm from Patrick, I'm from like you 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:47.640 from Philly, I'm from like country Hockens. You don't even 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.320 you don't even count that in Philly's son. I'm like 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:58.120 from Hershey, Pennsylvania. I don't even count. Keep it real, all. 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.880 Right, but I'm just saying that, you're so. At what 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.840 point did New York start to do this cross cultural 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:12.040 colonization where a queen's cap We'll go to Brooklyn with 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.640 no beef, and Brooklyn would come to Long Island and 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.440 well the way outside the parents moving. 0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.720 Okay, the way I started, uh back in eighty two, 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.040 I was handing out fliers for Mike and Dave, you know, 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.440 Mike and Davis. No, Mike and Dave had they had 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.040 a label, but they had cruise like the Crash Crew. Okay, 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:38.920 Master Dawn, Boogie Boys, Dougie, Rob Bass, all of us 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.320 started Fat Man's School. All of us started from under them. 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.160 They used to hand We used to you know, you 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.720 want to be on they be an artist? Yeah, they 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.840 do all. They was like one of the big promoters. 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.520 So we had a I used to hand our fliers 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.360 for them, and then I just watched and learned and 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:56.200 learned and learned. 0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.920 So is this where the basis of vapors verse came in? 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.640 To play with the basis of the vapors verse came in? 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.040 Is I was on my block and the kids down 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.640 the block had a crew. I wanted to be in 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.279 the crew, but I always had to be and my 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.279 parents were strict, so I had to be in when 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.239 the light was out. So I always asked cand I 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.040 be down. And since I wasn't the cool cat and 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:26.520 I wasn't smoking and I wasn't drinking, no, you. 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:27.160 Can't be down. 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.719 So I went back into the lab and try to 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.760 get his best at best I can, and doing that, 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.600 my time came vapors. 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.799 He made the vapor effects ladies in Jon't so I'm 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:45.840 noticing the pattern that all musical savants and and and 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:51.640 icons are either legacy kids of parents that were musicians 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.120 or people that had to follow Richard pryor heavy ass home. 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:57.919 Parents in the street lights. 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.320 Come on street light, Yeah no, no, no messing around. 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:06.680 So under under that crew, were you d j M 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.160 first or or you said you were be boxing first? 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.960 Be boxing and rapper like I used to snap on people. 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.440 I was always a funny guy, like shitty Shannati. Your 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.000 nose is snotty. Every time I see you, you're begging somebody. 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.640 But if you're egging, you're begging, and your humming, you're bumming. 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:27.080 Good God, oldmighty. I hate to see you coming my 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.280 drop moment, Biz, markeyla and gentlemen. 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:36.759 Actually, Premiere just hit me, he said, ask Biz, between 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:42.400 you and Big Sugar from Gangstar, who would win the 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.360 snapping contest? 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:43.799 Come on? 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:48.560 He saw what I did to him, and then Prima 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.600 also followed up that if this says now, you know 0:35:52.680 --> 0:36:04.440 how I do tell Biz he's lying, He asked prem. 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.280 I said, uh, I said something something something something something, 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.640 and then I told him I told uh Big Sugar 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.360 he had a hip hop starter kid. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:16.600 On them with being n XL. 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.920 He said that, yeah, any and I was on tour 0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.040 with Gangstar Rest in Peace, you know. Yeah, we was 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.440 on tour in Japan and. 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:30.080 He told he told me that, and then you proceeded 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:35.520 to stay. He said that the most amazing thing of 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.759 that Japan tour was the fact that you were the 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:43.560 first cat that he saw ben shopping and then you 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:49.839 somehow managed to have the promoter paid for all your 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.160 shipment back to the state, and that the shipment was 0:36:53.280 --> 0:37:02.480 actually more than the records. Wait talk about the van now, see, 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.160 and I hate this whole like my generation and when 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.279 cat's be like, hey, what's up o G because I 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.240 feel like we're all all the same hip hop generation. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.919 But I'm just saying that, it's like for when all right, 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.879 So for my layer of hip hop, DJ Premier's van 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.520 was like the be all end all van to test 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.640 your music. I'm gonna get to you, bus, I'm gonna 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.640 give you the credit. Biz looking at it. This got 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.000 his guns out a ray like give me credit. 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:31.480 I was. 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.160 I can tell you a story about that though. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.319 But yes, when Premiere told me, yo, dog, this was 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:38.560 the first cat I saw. 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:44.160 MPV, Yes V, Well, can I tell your story. Yes, 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:48.840 tell me, well, can I put the fireside chat? We 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:53.520 got yes, And now they had some my boys from uptown. 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.440 And I think y'all saw the movie payd to Full. Yes. Well, 0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.520 I used to hang with a Z. I used to 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.880 hang out Poe. I used to hang with rich Porter. 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.440 Rich Porter was one of the flyest dudes known to 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:11.000 man to this date. Okay, right, So he had an 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:15.640 MPV first, right, I said, Yo, man, what is that? 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.600 Blah blah blah. So I sat in there with him. 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.560 We talked for about an hour half an hour. The 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.640 next day I went to got two of them. I 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:32.480 got I got a expensive I had money had you? Okay? Right? 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:32.759 Right? 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:33.120 Right? 0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:38.000 So I'm sorry, what'ts an MPV? Oh it's a. 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.960 Multi purpose family? So what I did? 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.719 I'm glad you asked that because if I already asked 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.279 that business bill would have been like google it. 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:50.120 Right. So so I got B one and I got 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.799 cool V a blue one. So but with minds, I 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.359 put like twelve thousand of system in there. You got 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.600 thinking eighty nine. That's a lot out of money. 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.360 Why didn't get a jeep like everyone else? 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.520 I want to get it to be different. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.319 Okay, so it's it's like a cool ass Socca pop then. 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.960 But I had everything in it, but it had an 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.800 error when like cool dudes used to drive. 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.759 I had that casette, everything in it. 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:20.960 I never heard of a player in a car. 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:29.200 Google that only because Primo had one that I believe 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.719 this story because yeah. 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.120 So at the time, I mean I used to see 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.400 Primo blah blah blah blah, and he saw my joint. 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.640 He got one, but then he got one with deep 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:46.960 dish rims. And I say, yore because I had black, 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.120 I had black and chrome BBS's and he had the 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:52.120 deep dish joints. 0:39:52.160 --> 0:40:02.160 I said, yo. All right. So from be boxing and 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.480 I'm always gonna go back in time, So from be 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:09.520 boxing too to DJ SO rap next. 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.760 Yeah, because I had to make records. 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.319 But when I first heard of you was Deth fresh 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.120 school with Roxanne be boxing. 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:16.520 Yeah. 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.719 So how did the whole Philly connection with Pop Art 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.080 Records and Lawrence Goodman and all that happened? 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:26.000 What happened was Shante made Roxannes revenge. Okay, so Tyrone 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.080 Williams and Marley and them hooked up with Lawrence Goodman 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:29.399 in them. 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:36.200 Okay, Lawrence Goodman the maybe yeah. 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.239 Yeah, he was a tough dude. He was tough to 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:38.000 him and his brother. 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.319 So was there ever a nice guy in the music 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.120 industry like all the black guys if we put Lawrence 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.239 Goodman should knight, Uh, all of them. 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.080 Was cool with me. But I'm just saying. And then 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.359 at the time, I wanted to make a record bad, 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:57.200 so I got on with Chante and my thing, my fame, 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.600 my claim to fame was the tape from be from 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:05.040 Roseland with Chin That's yes, it's it's then I got 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.359 Then I made the record with Chante, and then I 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.200 was begging Lawrence Goodman, Yo, I want to make a record. 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:11.399 Blah blah blah blah blah blah. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.480 What was the de Chante record? What year was that? 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.520 Eighty five? Yeah? 0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.960 So wait they used to play that Roseland tape on 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:19.960 radio up here or. 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.960 Yeah what mister Magic World World Permit Permire All right? 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.319 Who who is that? A World premire permit? That's him, right, 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.279 that's him? Yeah, Okay, do you have an original copy 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:37.040 of that world I actually doz Yes, I would love 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.560 to get sharing his Karen, I would. 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.040 Share that with you, but I'm not telling you the 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:47.160 name of the what I'm finding that drum to see 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:51.120 one way or another? All right, this way, I'll bring 0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.440 it out. I'll let you see it you now, if 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:57.400 you get the name of it, i'll show you brand. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.440 I show you it, but I can't tell you in 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.680 your faith and on the air. 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:03.640 Okay, I get it, I get it, I get it. 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.160 I get it anyway. 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.200 So yeah, so based on that, actually, wait, can I 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.400 play that for a second, the Live routine with Biz 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.520 You got it? This is yes, this is Live Routine 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.280 with Bizmarky by mc shann. 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.040 Oh yeah, okay, we're ready to rout you ready shan 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.440 started off and tell them who we are. I want to, 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.960 I want to, I want to. I want to. 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:35.000 I like to introduce myself, my namic, bizmar keep you 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:42.880 and that's MC champion and Molly mob and missing a 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:49.320 medic can't pick spot top and my mac Flordia. 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:55.040 And my seat am I mac Harmony. 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.799 And Sun Bram. So we're gonna do. 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.319 A litt I like. 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:20.319 Simple Okay, I have a question, Bis, and you're b 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:26.280 boxing technique because you're definitely. While while it is most 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:32.480 b boxes, their kick and their snare both had the 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:38.760 same range you're like in your mind, are you playing 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.319 a rim shot? Like what like I know for like 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:42.319 for you going to be. 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.759 Or shot and my bass is different my bas is 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:50.799 Like so you were hum with the B box huh? 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.319 You you were hum with your your your kick jump 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:54.319 to give it extra. 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.120 You know how you want to give it that extra 0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:00.960 sound like right, So I was looking at it. I 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:02.719 was looking at it as an eight a weight, so 0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.640 you know how the eight awight got. 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.160 But what I'm saying is at least with with with 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.440 the human bet Box from the Fat Boys. I always 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.080 heard him and Ducky for that part emulating and Piece 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:21.920 the President. So when b boxes do they're doing, what 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.400 is the beat? What is the break in your head 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.080 that you're emulating when you're. 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.880 I'm trying to get as close to the record as possible. 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.000 Which record though, what's the record in your head that 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:33.839 you're emulating? 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:35.600 Which record? Because you don't do. 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.799 In Piece of President like breaks you do like. 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:40.680 No, I go, I W. 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.800 I rarely hear you do that break. So I'm saying, 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.920 and plus you're the first bat boxer I know that 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:50.759 rhymed and be boxed at the same time. 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.680 That was I wanted to be different, So. 0:44:54.120 --> 0:45:00.719 You are different, let me know. So okay, So when 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:04.560 deaf Resh Crew came out, and this this was an 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:10.279 era where hip hop was still quasi regional, that in 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.719 school you could bite some ship and claim credit for 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.399 it and live with it. Now, I think I got 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:24.680 away with that meow mix, so all the white kids 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.719 in school thought I was the ship. Like me, I'm 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.680 mixed like that was always the thing, like And then 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.480 like maybe seven weeks later, then I got busted and 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.439 was like, all right, you know this, it's my key, 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:41.480 But like, how how you know? 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:41.759 What? 0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.120 At what point do you do? You transfer to rapping 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:50.320 and getting with Marley, And. 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.600 At that time I was with them, so I was 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:56.680 keeping quiet as a rapper. I'm just happy to be down. 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.400 So once they gave me my chance to make a record, 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.280 already already had records written. 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.080 And why does everyone start off as a DJ in 0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.600 this crew? Like even Cain started out as a DJ. 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:15.040 Well, Caine started out as as my partner rhyming because 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.719 I had to show him. I had to show him 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.560 stage presence. I showed him different styles, I showed him 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:26.680 how to be on stage. You know, if there's something wrong, 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.080 you know, to go to the next rhyme. It's like 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:34.319 you drumming, right, if you break a stick, you know 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:39.760 to go to you know, to go to the next 0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.960 you know, to go to the next stick? Yeah, how 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:43.640 to keep it moving? 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.160 So where do you where do you get your experience from? 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.520 Because you know, you grew up in the era where 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.360 I mean now it's even harder because it's like, unless 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.640 your YouTube song has ten million views, it's really hard 0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:02.640 to capture people's attentions us. Your songs just larger than life, 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:07.040 Whereas back then you had to have actual, genuine talent and. 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.040 You had to be witty. 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.840 Right, So what what was it like going on in 0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.560 these states? Like what if you were whack? What would happen? 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.160 No, Hamburger is everything at you? 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:24.000 I seen why Hamburgers. 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.920 Everything. I'm gonna tell you. It was the time we 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.080 was on tour. I was on tour with Salt Pepper, 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.799 Fat Fat boys. Everybody. They had this lady trying to 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:41.560 be do another rendition of I Ney Love. Oh no, 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.920 where what territory? We was in North Carolina? Greensboro. 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.719 Wow, they hit away all down? 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:53.279 Everything changed? Yes and stand up? 0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:56.360 Are you proud of this? 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:57.239 Yeah? 0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:58.400 That's by all the times where I grew up. 0:47:58.400 --> 0:47:59.160 I grew up greens Boro. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.040 Yeah, I know that, but you're. 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.760 Proud of Did you ever throw a hammerger an. 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:07.040 Them? 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:17.040 Absolutely? Yep, I'm proud. Wait Queensborough, that's where my family. 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:18.880 Are you serious, dude? 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.880 Like grandparents have like nineteen brothers and sisters? 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.600 Yes? Oh god? What's your family last? 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:33.520 Please tell investigate ancestry dot com. Let's get on it. 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:38.120 Wait. 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:42.759 Speaking of North Carolina. Uh, In the fifth anniversary of 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.839 the Source magazine, there's a story they're kind of doing, 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.440 like an oral history of like just hip hop tales, 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:54.040 and I forget who it was, but there was an 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:59.880 incident in North Carolina where your record collection save somebody 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.320 from y'all getting shot up or something. 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:03.600 Yeah, not me. 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:06.000 I was in the room. 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:07.040 But check this out. 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.200 My man gave my fireside check. Hit the introduction, now 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:14.800 you ready, yes, hit it? 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.719 Okay? Now, my man Jeff and them there was in 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.160 the car. What happened was hot Dog that used to 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:21.280 be down with Chuck Rock. 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:22.239 I'm rocking the round. 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.640 Yes, well, they were trying to talk to these girls. 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.399 They were trying to talk to these girls, and right 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.080 something happened cop blocking I mean something happened. I think 0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:34.359 once one of the dancers hit a girl. The girl, 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.680 the girl's boyfriends came up or something. It was my 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.719 man Jeff right here, Shante. All of them was in 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:43.040 the car. 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:44.680 But you know, I mean you. 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.720 DJ so you know when you pack your pack, Yes. 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.200 You know that long case. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.400 Yes, I had a long case of twelve inches, but 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.560 I packed it them packed in them packed it well, 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.520 you almost can't even take it. Record the luggage. 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.640 If y'all in North Carolina, where's the luggage? 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.480 If all, it's on the bus. We're coming from the show. 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:10.279 So you have a bus. There's a bus and a car. 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.520 To know, the car is the runner that brings you 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.400 back to the hotel. I see, I see, Okay, So 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:21.400 they running and they to all these these country dudes 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:29.160 came out and my records was behind them and it 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:30.360 was like a station wagon. 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.600 Yeah, and it just didn't go through and all the 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:38.520 bullets bullets, the record got damaged. 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:40.920 Something in the way you make me feel with the 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:45.280 acapella feeling. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:49.840 All right, gap band, we yeah trouble. 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.840 Did you just did you just ask me where the 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:52.359 records are? 0:50:52.440 --> 0:51:00.239 Right? You got exactly you got twelve inches right, No, 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:04.000 come on, viz. No, they got them with the Chinese 0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:04.919 chicken on the other side. 0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:08.040 Yes, okay, I've seen those, but those are like reprints. 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:13.320 No, no, no, there they were reprints, but these was 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:17.400 the ones that was hard to find. These only downstairs 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.000 had them at the time. Okay, from back in the day. 0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:21.200 They wasn't selling them no more. 0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.200 Okay, okay, that was a fireside chat. 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:24.640 There wasn't. 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.080 There wasn't breaks and beat joints. 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:30.440 Okay, all right, the ones on Tough City right, No, 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:32.320 this is before Tough Sitting. 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:37.799 Okay. This is when they had They had the big 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.400 beat with the coolest back on the other side, the 0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:42.400 green ones. Then they had the. 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:44.680 The Bozomigo ones. 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:49.400 They had the Bozogo records. No, I know they reprints, 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.760 but they ain't the Tough City joints from now, okay, 0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:54.399 these are the ones from eighty one. 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:56.920 Yes, okay, I've had a few of those. Okay, I 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.560 get it. Yes, I didn't get it in Pizza President though, 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:05.080 but I have a few from those labels. So as 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:10.840 far as your album is concerned, like, how do you 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.040 what's what's the deal with the production? Was it just 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.640 strictly were you handing Marley these records? Did you not 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:18.960 an operated drum machine? 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.960 Did you? Okay, let me say, in the beginning days 0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.480 like to make the music and stuff, Marley was master 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.920 the way he did. Uh Eric Beef president and all that. 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:37.560 He's by far the best now as I'm learning from him. 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.480 I got a twelve hundred. I think I was like 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.920 one of the first with a twelve hundred. Twelve hundred 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.400 or twelve twelve hundred. He had a twelve damn okay, 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.800 I got a twelve hundred from the dude from it 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:55.759 or akai one of right, So he first gave it 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:57.960 to me. So I came over with Marley ouse and 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.120 Marlly said, well what is that? That's what all sudden 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:02.880 Marley hold my doing for two weeks. He didn't want 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:07.279 to give it back, so we did. You know, I 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.880 usually I always look look for the crew records. So 0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:15.040 I looked for kine, I looked for breaks. So what 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:20.760 I did was I hand Marley the records. He hooked 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:22.800 it up. I told him I want this, this, that. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.520 Then after a while I started doing production myself. So 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.880 that's why I on the second album, I just did everything. 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:34.920 And so how did you separate from Marlee, Like, how 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.239 did you feel about the situation with Marley's stepping the 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:38.320 way and going to Uptown? 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:43.239 And no, Uptown was before Uptown was before us. But 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:46.600 I thought in eighty nine, male Marley just did one 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.520 record on that It wasn't there wasn't a separation. 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:49.640 Which record did he do? 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.400 The uptowns kicking it and stuff? He always did? He 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.080 always did. He did heavy d he did yeah, but 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.640 he always did random stuff to get you know, extra. 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:03.359 You know, Marley was Marley, so you know he didn't 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.120 he work on the Diabolical album, the second album. 0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.239 I wanted to do my own album? Did he? 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:10.600 So he did nothing on that record? 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.359 Or I wanted to do my own album? He I mean, 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:17.200 he flew, he flew. Uh, you got what I did 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.120 vocal to the second thing. But I did everything myself. 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:21.759 So how did you? 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.880 A COOLVI did too? Okay, So how did you fall into. 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.399 That song? I mean, that song is probably the most 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:36.719 timeless song. That song will never die probably, you know, 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.719 when all said and done, and you know they're going 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.680 to do the Library of Congress, like five most important 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:48.359 hip hop songs. I'm certain that just a Friend will 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:53.640 be at least considered in the top ten, like whatever, 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:54.520 like the What. 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.239 Happened with that record was I was at a house 0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:01.399 party in eighty two, right, so I'm hearing this dude 0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:13.080 what I'm thinking, it's going, we don't name. So I'm 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.080 here to dude. I blew out that record, I said, 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.520 so I couldn't. The dude left the party and I 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:21.520 never found the name of the record. So I'm looking 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.879 and looking. I never found the record. So I told 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:27.360 Coovie and Big Daddy Can. I said, Yo, if I 0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:35.719 find this record, boom boom, we on name, Yo, I'm 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:46.280 going plattinm we on knee along. So I was hanging 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:49.560 with Theodore. Theodore door brought me to Danny Dan's house. 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.480 So Danny, I'm you know, Danny cutting breaks, Danny Danny 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.480 beat man, he cutting breaks. All of a sudden, he 0:55:55.560 --> 0:56:00.279 throw that record on boom. I grabbed the phone, yelling 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:10.400 me and that man again. Yeah right, So I drove 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:15.240 over to his house. Right, I traded him Barbara Streiss 0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:16.080 saying album. 0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:20.880 Wait wait wait wait wait wait what. 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:23.600 A birth of all? 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:25.799 Do you know the album that Barbara Ston got the break? 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:32.239 I mean, I know she didn't use there's there's no 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.640 she has a cover used me on seventeen b oh damn. Okay, 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:46.200 remember the song we worked side Beyonce wanted to cover this. Yeah, 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:51.000 like Beyonce and Barbara streisand we're going to do duet 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.920 with each other of Queen Bee and I produced it. 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.839 But then Real has a song called Queen Bee. 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:58.080 Yeah, tell me that be. 0:56:58.160 --> 0:56:59.040 There it is? 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.799 Yeah, she she she did like a few funk joints, 0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:05.480 like seventy three seventy four. 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.440 That was from the Stars Born movie, right, so this 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:08.759 is what this would happen in the movie. 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:09.279 Yeah. 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:13.839 So I knew that he didn't know that record, right, 0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.000 so I went over there and traded him. So you know, 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.360 somebody he gave it a forty five. It's a dollar 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:19.040 forty five. 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:20.480 He getting an album? 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:26.400 Yeah, but stress hand break. You understand hip hop if 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.880 you don't know something, So it would have been cool 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.560 just to were you using it for the purpose of 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.160 sampling it or you just wanted to have that record. 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:37.960 I wanted that record. I knew I was gonna make 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:38.800 a record off it, right. 0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:41.480 So you couldn't just borrow the record or YO made 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:42.760 me get set copy of that record. 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:48.640 Not in hip hop trade. I did not know that trade. Okay, 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.280 So here's what happened. So a couple of weeks later, I'm, 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.480 you know, because we started to be friends. So I'm 0:57:55.520 --> 0:58:02.240 hanging with him. So he plays Freddy Scott. I said, 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.320 I like that joint. So he said, yo, man, I 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.600 don't got no more. So I gave him two hundred 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:11.240 dollars for the forty five what but look but. 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.360 He made it back so loved. 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.200 You gotta understand two hundred dollars at that time, I'm 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.160 making because I just came off tour with vapors and 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:28.320 all that. So I traded him two hundred dollars. That's 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:31.880 a lot of money. You think you got over right along? 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.240 So is this Dan Dan? We're talking about Dan. 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.400 So when Dan Dan's watching you on TV raps and 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.920 watching the Heineken commercial. 0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.760 Then to beat Man, yeah, is he like, yo, those 0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:44.480 are my record? 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:45.120 Like right? 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.480 So what happened was I went to my mom's house. 0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:49.920 You know, usually after tour, so you know, you go 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.160 home see your family. So I'm sitting in my old 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:59.120 bed back in the day joint bunk bed joint. Yeah, 0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:02.200 So I'm sitting in there and I just wrote, I 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.280 wrote uh, just a front in like fifteen minutes. So 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.479 when we went to the studio to do it, because 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.680 we're doing the second album, I tried to match up 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:16.360 the Lee Dorsey and just throw the uh Freddy Scott 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.960 on top. But since the drum your drummer, you know 0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.240 how a drummer plays too fast and to do it 0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:24.280 and it wouldn't match. So we tried to put it 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:27.840 through the pumasan. If anybody remember a pumasan. 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:32.440 Me huh, first stumped the room. 0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.560 Pumasan is something that you put in and you put 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:37.280 the records in so it could match, and then. 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.280 Oh, okay, I think something. 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.240 Yeah, I didn't know what it was called. Yes, we 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.400 use it. It wouldn't match. So what I did I 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:50.680 had to do named Shane Faber and he helped me play. 0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.080 He played and we I said no. So I sat 0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:56.800 there for like from twelve to eight until he got 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:58.760 the right piano sound. You know how you're on a 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.320 keyboard and the right and the piano don't sound right. 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:05.880 I was just gonna say, because you don't use that 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.840 record in the on just a friend, that's the actual 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:10.640 piano piano. 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:12.680 So all of a sudden I'm telling him what to do, 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:17.960 but he wanted to be jazzy. Don't do what I'm 1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:22.200 telling you what to do. Well, do they know it's up? No, son, 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.720 play it like you hear it? So I'm sitting there, 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.000 well time out to see you. 1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:32.240 That sound familiar? Uh yeah, OK, so you know it's 1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:33.400 the roots. 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:36.520 Good look he's trying to get. I'm like, no. So 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:41.360 it's like seven fifty nine in the morning. I feel 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:47.120 like Gucci bags on them all saiden he found the 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.320 right piano bang. 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:53.240 Bang boo boom, bang bang bang boom. 1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:56.640 So I did it one pass and then we looped it. 1:00:58.160 --> 1:00:59.000 So I'm sorry. 1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:04.280 So and now the fireside chat, So who are the 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:05.000 lyrics about? 1:01:05.000 --> 1:01:06.920 Who's the friend? Is that the guy who sold you 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:08.680 the record? Because he had what you need? 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:11.840 The video? 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:14.600 I'm not uncle preaches. 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:22.160 Now Tip says that Q Tip says that there was 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.840 an original version of Just a Friend Speed. 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:26.680 There was the q Tip. 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:29.800 It was q Tip. All of them was doing Buddy, 1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:32.160 and they were doing Buddy before I came into the 1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:34.480 studio and he he he was there. 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:38.360 When I sung it to them, they bugged out, but. 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.560 They said the girl you must be on speed? Yeah, 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.880 and they were like, yo, like change it and do 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:49.440 the original. I did the radio okay, okay, it got 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:50.560 a hair weave, and. 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:56.000 It is just a wait. 1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:58.919 Before I get to your next record, I gotta ask. 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:08.520 So your ad libs are probably, I mean, next to 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:13.680 Lottie Dotty. I don't think I've ever heard sampled a 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:18.760 more sampled ad lib. Like, what are your general feelings 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:22.240 when you heard the main ingredient. 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:26.880 By Pete Rock? But Pete cool anyway, I know? 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:33.840 But yeah, yeah, like how do you generally feel? I mean, 1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:38.160 are you from the school of okay, Well, rappers can't 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:42.360 call out or see other rappers for sampling their joints. 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:45.720 Me and Pete was cool, so I wasn't thinking about that. 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:53.800 Okay, So now with alone again naturally tell us this story. 1:02:53.920 --> 1:02:57.080 Man, here's what happened with a timeout. 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:02.200 Bill gives the now Fireside chatting number seventy five with Bismarcky. 1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:04.959 What happened was, I did the record with a loan again. 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:09.720 We got a verbal agreement from him, but my record 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.480 company tyroneing them. They I guess the people call back 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:18.080 up and they cursed Gilbo selvnder them out said we're 1:03:18.080 --> 1:03:22.560 gonna use it anyway. Wait, what why would they do that? 1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:24.440 I don't know, because here's what I used to do. 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:28.360 When it came to samples. I would make, say, say, 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:33.200 if the record got thirteen songs, I would make thirty 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:38.800 nine tapes of every record that I use and we'll 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:45.640 clear them through regions. At the time, it was we 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:48.280 got a verbal agreement, but they didn't get up. They 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:50.560 didn't get a what you call him agreement, so they 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:52.080 put the record out any. 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:57.600 Suda that's creaty. Wait, you will clear your own set. 1:03:57.480 --> 1:04:00.240 Like I would. I would set it up and then 1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:03.360 the office clears like I would have to record. 1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:07.600 Remember at the time, it was not CDs, it was cassettes, right, 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:10.920 And I mean just in general, like, why do you 1:04:11.000 --> 1:04:12.280 think they were so resistant to. 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:17.360 Because tyre on them cursed him out. Man. I mean, 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:19.760 I don't want to say what they were doing. But 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:23.760 you know what was fly T? 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:27.280 I like, because that's you know, I mean he was. 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:30.480 He was a key figure in the hip hop Patson 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.800 that you don't pantheon, that you just don't. 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:38.640 Fly Tie was great in the beginning, okay, great manager, great, 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.560 but when the money and stuff came along, that's when 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:42.160 what was. 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.480 His connection, Like why did y'all choose him? Was he 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:48.080 Marley's guy or he was Magic's guy? We all came 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:52.600 through magic and that that that just reminds me of something. 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.520 BDP would routinely shot you, shout you out. 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:58.000 I was cool with everybody. 1:04:58.080 --> 1:05:01.960 You were like, what's not favorite nations of Switzerland? Yeah? 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:03.960 Yeah, the Pope? 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:05.120 Wow? 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:07.800 So the pope grew up together? 1:05:07.920 --> 1:05:09.440 So so how would. 1:05:11.240 --> 1:05:14.680 How did your crew feel with you being neutral with 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:18.240 both sides and how do they feel when seeing you? 1:05:18.360 --> 1:05:20.800 And like, yo, we ain't talking about you were just 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:21.560 talking about magic. 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:24.160 They wouldn't they wouldn't talk because what happened with the 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:29.160 magic situation? Care wrest of them had a rec called 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:34.360 twelve forty one. Success is the word. They came in 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:37.280 and tried because if you if you get your record 1:05:37.320 --> 1:05:40.120 play on Magic, your record means a lot. At the time, 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:44.920 he was like the hip hop Frankie Crocker. So they 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:49.920 came in the studio and they let Christenham let them 1:05:49.960 --> 1:05:55.680 hear the demo of twelve forty one, and the record 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.960 wasn't good, and you know magic in them. You know 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:02.720 at that time, if anybody know from the eighties, I 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:05.960 was getting high time you in the studio, and you 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:09.840 know they laughed them out, so I guess they went. 1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:13.160 They left with the tail between their legs and then 1:06:13.160 --> 1:06:14.520 they went and wrote South. 1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:17.400 Bronx and all that. So the record was I thought 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:18.000 it was Evans. 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:21.320 I thought it was success. Success is the word? Can 1:06:21.360 --> 1:06:21.680 we play? 1:06:21.760 --> 1:06:23.520 Have you guys ever heard? I think we played it 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:24.240 on on the mall. 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:25.920 Ye we did the wrong It was we did advance. 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:26.920 Oh we did advance. 1:06:26.920 --> 1:06:30.920 Okay, yeah, because I'm gonna play like three seconds of 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:40.520 successes the word you can hear what got pre pre beady? 1:06:43.320 --> 1:06:44.560 So there's a pink Foy slamp. 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:53.400 It's bed nice. 1:06:59.840 --> 1:07:00.280 On start. 1:07:00.360 --> 1:07:03.640 Yeah, this is a great radio movie. 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:07.080 It's about eighty degrees. 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:20.560 Outside traffic on the g w B. Wait, Charis Woman's 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:26.280 on some jazzy Jeffers. Yeah, that's got to take the way. 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:31.360 I love thy pebbles. 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:32.000 You're going to. 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:38.400 Wrap my rapt prier put the mare in the train, 1:07:39.000 --> 1:07:40.800 but my raples. What you want to do? 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:45.600 Oh my god, Paris too the wow big. 1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:54.080 Now you know more music about the sock mother Soucker. 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:57.080 Now I'm not felling magic. 1:07:57.120 --> 1:08:00.480 Get them listening to this ski you up and anything. 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:12.040 I've held all of them there, So listen to that. 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:15.920 What would you do quest if you was magic in 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:16.559 them right there? 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:21.559 Yeah, they got to go come on, Wow, I feel 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:26.439 like Chris O's But yeah, the state some flowers for 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:32.000 this of them, because that's what made him. That's crazy. 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:38.000 I've had this record for ten years and never heard 1:08:38.200 --> 1:08:39.479 this first time I'm listening to it. 1:08:40.000 --> 1:08:40.760 There's a reason for that. 1:08:45.160 --> 1:08:46.479 I can't hear what I said. 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:49.840 Yeah, I'm on a lot of drug medication right now 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:51.719 from but did I hear Gilligan's Island? 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:53.479 Just checking? 1:08:53.520 --> 1:08:57.280 But at that time, everybody was doing routines like the 1:08:57.400 --> 1:09:00.560 Fat Boys enforcing these did it to find effect? Do 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:03.479 you remember that the Fat Boys meet the Force? 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:05.200 Someome dan O? 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:14.840 No, that Shi was a hitting Philly Philly. 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:19.360 Philly gave me my start. I love Philly Dancing on air. 1:09:19.439 --> 1:09:23.160 But that record wasn't the yo. 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:28.560 I gotta say, wait, the siety the Garrett episode. I 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:30.639 said that that Facts of Life episode was the first 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:34.519 thing I recorded on the VCR Biz Marquee on Dancing 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:37.240 on the Air where Roxannehante was the second thing I 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:41.360 recorded im doing the bus dance. Yeah, you were you 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:48.120 were past going going past your recording career, you've also 1:09:48.360 --> 1:09:52.920 managed to you know, do crazy collaborations throughout your time. 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:53.760 Yeah. 1:09:53.760 --> 1:09:56.960 I was going to say that you co signing and 1:09:57.080 --> 1:10:02.599 sticking with the Beast Boys, especially when most UH people 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:06.880 were kind of indifferent to the genius that is Paul's 1:10:06.880 --> 1:10:10.519 boutique and check your head and all that stuff. Yeah, 1:10:10.520 --> 1:10:12.200 I was going to say that you co sign from 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:15.400 Hart and like that that made a difference to them, 1:10:15.479 --> 1:10:19.640 and they always always always spoke of you in the 1:10:19.720 --> 1:10:21.920 highest regard. When I red tour with them, What was that? 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:23.400 What was that period like when you. 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:28.559 Were is what happened? I think they sued rustling them 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:32.080 and won. And I think it was at a time 1:10:32.120 --> 1:10:34.040 when I guess they were trying to at the time 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:37.080 people try to black ball people, and at the time 1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:41.360 they I looked at them as brothers. I steal records 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:44.120 from them. They steal from me and you know, you 1:10:44.200 --> 1:10:49.400 know records. When did you first meet them? I met them? 1:10:51.600 --> 1:10:57.360 Remember D from What's the TV? We went over there, 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:01.160 went over to the studio. I mean, I knew episode. 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:03.280 That's the first time you met him? No, I think 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:05.240 I met him a little bit before, but we wasn't 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:07.680 hanging okay, you know what I mean. You know you 1:11:07.800 --> 1:11:14.960 meet Yoda, so Bull your tribe, Wow and the BC Boys. 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:17.600 It was me and the BC Boys versus Bull. He 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:18.800 was playing basketball right. 1:11:21.560 --> 1:11:25.200 Time out Bill hit it and now another episode of 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:26.320 what had happened was. 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:30.240 All right, good, now some. 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:36.280 Big jiga, the real big. 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:40.479 So we playing. So we're playing, you know, basketball, I'm 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:45.439 filing people everything like. So after we got done, we're 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:49.040 playing the Mark Marky Mark, that was down with him. 1:11:49.320 --> 1:11:55.760 We're playing the piano, so Mark keyboard. It's not just 1:11:55.880 --> 1:11:57.439 like you. It's a whole bunch of people thinking right, 1:11:57.840 --> 1:11:58.920 but you're you're the conduit. 1:11:59.800 --> 1:11:59.920 Right. 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:04.560 So he played records from when I grew up. So 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:10.720 he's playing like jab was a fool from And I'm 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:14.600 singing every single record that they playing, you know what 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:21.479 I mean, like a Magan wold Man use a yeah 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:25.040 so la. So I'm singing blah blah blah. All sudden 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:30.360 he started playing Benny and the Jets Toe to To. 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:36.160 I started singing it, y'all. We was there for like hours, 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:41.120 Do it again, do it again? Then they put it out. 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:42.400 Yeah, I got that. 1:12:42.560 --> 1:12:42.920 I got that. 1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:47.719 That's that would be one of my fire five I purchased. 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:54.640 I purchased twenty copies of that Grand Royal Whitties magazine 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:59.080 with your floppy record in it. So and then that's 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.360 why I started okay instead of here. 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:05.439 So so what happened was, you know, after that, we 1:13:05.600 --> 1:13:08.280 just started just playing with stuff and I would just 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:10.960 come out there, hang with them, stay with them, and 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:13.880 we just started doing just magical stuff. Like I would 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:15.920 be at my house and I heard something because I 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:17.360 used to like Ted Nugent. 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:19.120 You know, yeah, I was gonna say, how that tech 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:21.519 Nugent collaboration happened? Was that separate? 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:22.360 That was separate? 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:26.200 I just think Jesus. I called them from the phone, right, 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:29.320 and I said, Joe, I got something for you. It's 1:13:29.400 --> 1:13:32.000 like y'all getting out of jail or something, right, So 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:34.160 I got something for you and he said play it. 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:36.639 So I threw the record on and I said, et 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:49.160 damn dumb man, y'all. I played that for like eight hours. Yo. 1:13:49.720 --> 1:13:52.240 I said this is for you, Yo, Pichon want to 1:13:52.280 --> 1:13:54.360 give you this, And I said, nah, we come on, man, 1:13:54.400 --> 1:13:56.920 we're cool, come on, don't worry about it. After that, 1:13:57.040 --> 1:14:00.600 we started just doing different things. Do Brad dude do. 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:02.840 So then they just took me on tour with them. 1:14:03.200 --> 1:14:05.280 So it's like I was like Billy. 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:09.880 Preston, you were Billy Preston to their fee, so you. 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:13.040 Know, and then they showed for them. They showed me 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:17.240 a lot of things. I didn't know how to conduct business, 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:21.400 how to save for a rainy day, how to whatever, 1:14:21.439 --> 1:14:22.840 you know what I mean. And plus I used to 1:14:22.880 --> 1:14:26.639 take them sneaky shopping. I took them to a store 1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:30.680 and knew had every old school sneaker, but at the 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:35.120 time it was great closed down and every procads everything 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:35.880 was that dollar. 1:14:36.479 --> 1:14:41.200 Oh my god, wow, so their fashion shiit comes. 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:44.719 We backed up, but we backed up a big truck MPV. 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:47.479 I used to bring them they I used to bring 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:49.679 them to jew Man. I used to bring them different spots. 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:51.519 But then they used to bring me stuff. 1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:51.680 You know. 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:53.040 We used to it was like brotherhood. 1:14:58.080 --> 1:15:00.280 During the coach tilling years, were you actually making money 1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:02.240 off the records like royalties or was it mainly just 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:02.759 to a bunny. 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:08.000 I was making money off the records because I was recording, 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:12.000 and since I used to record in the house, you 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.720 didn't really have to need that much money to use it. 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:19.200 As a budget like I would get my budget, said 1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:22.760 my budget to be three or five hundred recording the house, 1:15:22.800 --> 1:15:26.320 I just gotta pay my engineer, pay cooov give him. 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:31.200 Oh in house, I'm thinking of like a label studio. 1:15:31.680 --> 1:15:32.880 It's in my house. 1:15:32.960 --> 1:15:36.479 So so wait, so you recorded a lot of going 1:15:36.600 --> 1:15:38.840 off in home equipment. 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:41.600 Going off or like a lot of that was on 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:42.160 four track. 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:42.880 Marley did that. 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:48.760 So for Diabolical every house I was about to say, 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:54.439 Monthfoot's vocal sounds like you were in a bathroom or nah. 1:15:54.640 --> 1:15:57.920 I could tell like natural but natural reverb sound versus 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:01.880 process reverb sound. Did you record muffoot in the house? 1:16:02.360 --> 1:16:03.240 What room your kitchen? 1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:06.120 No? Downstairs, the basement? I need a haircut. That was 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:08.880 at the house too. That was grip Wow, all that 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:10.080 was done at Coovie's house. 1:16:11.840 --> 1:16:13.519 Biz And who was this engineer? 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:21.000 Sorry? Doc? But at first at first we had we 1:16:21.120 --> 1:16:25.720 had Shane, but then we went to Paul C. I 1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:27.560 think Paul C. 1:16:27.800 --> 1:16:28.920 Give me Paul C stories. 1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:34.439 Paul C was one of the greatest engineers. You know 1:16:34.479 --> 1:16:40.360 how you're a drama No, let's listen. Yes, but the 1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:42.719 thing is, you know how you listen to He didn't 1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:45.360 listen to the pads. He would do it on the 1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:49.040 numbers and then hit the button and the record to 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:54.000 be done. Really, he was at the best. 1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:55.760 I didn't even think you worked with I was gonna 1:16:55.760 --> 1:16:57.760 ask you, did you know Paul C? I skipped I 1:16:57.840 --> 1:16:59.800 skipped Latin Cord of Stories and. 1:17:04.760 --> 1:17:10.040 You look no engineered, Kim. I traded Paul C. 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:14.160 He he worked on your records, Yeah, my second album. 1:17:14.360 --> 1:17:22.400 I did not know that, he he he. I traded 1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:28.799 him Coolest Back Albums sealed. 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:34.240 There's a funk in corporated sealed copy of Coolest Back 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:36.240 that's not reissued from. 1:17:36.560 --> 1:17:41.120 Real damn that whenever we if I come, I'll bring 1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:42.000 you one. I'll give you one. 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:44.840 Okay, So I get that and what else? 1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:45.800 Keep going? 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:48.120 Let's so I traded him. 1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:51.000 I traded him Coolest Back Albums, right, and he traded 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.559 me Hercules right? Okay? 1:17:53.680 --> 1:18:00.160 Hercules Aaron Nevil's just translation. Steve paul C was the 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:06.840 U of the mid eighties to late eighties, but the 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:09.840 cool white engineer that hung around a lot of black dudes. 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:11.080 Nobody was better than him. 1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:14.240 On a twelve hundred that that collected, he sounds more 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:14.920 talented than me. 1:18:15.000 --> 1:18:18.920 Actually, there's to be nobody better than him. Rest the 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:21.400 Beech he was nobody bad. I mean. 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:25.880 Company passed away. When did he pass away? He passed 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:27.879 away because I know he's on the back. 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.120 Of what the rhythm hit him. I think that's why 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:33.200 rest r ip he. I think he passed away in 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:35.479 eighty nine. I think I was the last one he 1:18:35.680 --> 1:18:39.760 was recording with. Something happened. I mean, I tell you. 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:42.479 Off, Oh, it's like some be I thought it was like, 1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:44.080 you know what, he didn't have no beef. 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:47.960 It was just the point of people could looking for somebody. 1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:54.960 Oh, man, ship one place a long time. We work 1:18:55.000 --> 1:19:03.200 at thirty Rock. We're saying safe man, I did not 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.120 know you worked with the great Paul cy. 1:19:06.680 --> 1:19:06.920 Damn. 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:10.680 So he was just like what was it about his 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:15.000 production technique? Was the fact that he's shop stuff. 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:18.599 Put his way. You know how. I think we played 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.200 at the House of Blues. Remember I was I was 1:19:22.240 --> 1:19:24.760 sick at the time we played the house. I lost 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:28.040 my voice. You remember when you did Mardi Gras. Yeah, 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:32.559 you know how you have the funk? He just had 1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:36.960 that funk. Was he a musician? He was something? 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:40.040 He was everything son, he was everything. 1:19:41.040 --> 1:19:45.000 So how you do see Paul see you see laws professor, 1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:52.600 Professor Policy Production. That's with Paul mcs paulsy mccasty. 1:19:53.320 --> 1:19:56.800 Incredible son dous he got any other stories like I 1:19:57.080 --> 1:19:58.000 feel like there's. 1:19:58.280 --> 1:19:59.760 Go ahead to ask whatever you want. 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:04.200 And now tails from the Latin Quarter. We have been 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:06.559 in the Latin Quarter that everybody comes on the show 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:09.240 delivers a Latin Quarter story. You might as well, bis 1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:11.200 what's your best one. 1:20:12.439 --> 1:20:18.200 Best one Latin Quarter k r rest Battle of Melle mel. 1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:25.439 Everyone has yeah, from like five different someone talked about people. No, no, no, no, 1:20:25.520 --> 1:20:25.760 no no. 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:30.920 My best story is cash money coming to Latin Quarter 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:35.599 and and killing it here. I'm gonna tell you what happened. 1:20:36.360 --> 1:20:40.680 Paradise has this Paradise has this Phelas suit on. He 1:20:40.800 --> 1:20:46.360 had I think he wore like seventeen consecutive weeks, and 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:49.720 he had a big ass silver rope right you know 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:52.400 when you win. So they got a big ass silver 1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:56.559 rope right to check it out. So he said, Yo, 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:59.639 this guy says he's just he's better than Jazzy Jeff 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.880 and blah blah blah blah blah. Here is cash money. 1:21:03.160 --> 1:21:05.720 He set up that you set him up like a 1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:07.040 five heart beat. 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:12.360 Heart beat and they better than their temptations put together. 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:15.200 But thegether, we should see the right. 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:21.400 So so they bowing, they bowing. They cast money at first, No, 1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:28.599 this cast money by himself? What so cast started? What uh? 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:30.320 And with a piece of president. 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.000 He started doing top billing. 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:39.639 What just too? I'm looking like So after a while 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:43.760 I already knew cash money because hanging Philly, Yo, he 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.840 burnt it down so bad everybody wanted to hang with him. 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:53.200 He was like that kid on the block that the 1:21:53.320 --> 1:21:57.320 only kid that had HBO or atari And you'll be 1:21:57.400 --> 1:22:00.240 asking your mother, did you stay over there? And I 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:04.760 go with you? I go with Derek House and he 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:06.719 burned it down. That was That was one of my best. 1:22:06.880 --> 1:22:12.360 And another another story was when when people used to 1:22:12.360 --> 1:22:18.280 get robbed. Okay, what what? 1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:18.640 What? 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:20.040 What is your uh? 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:25.800 Haitian Jack story? Jack was cool with me, but I 1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:29.040 hear that the folk lord for those who don't know, 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:31.080 I hear that Haitian Jack was the guy that has 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:36.360 the most collections of hip hop gold chains. 1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:40.120 And it's a lot of them like that you have Jack, But. 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:43.400 I heard Jack has like you know, he has rock 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:46.240 kmsty and it's slick Rick. And I heard that he 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:50.920 had about to say that, Okay, he was rick. 1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:52.080 Rick or bust you. 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:56.799 We know this. I was there when that shootout happened 1:22:57.320 --> 1:23:02.360 in the Bronx at the Castle. Hit me world is bomb. 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:06.559 And you got wait what happened? 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:10.560 Here's what happened. They were outside of the Castle. I 1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:12.599 think he had an argument with what's the castle? 1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:13.559 The Castle? 1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:15.920 You know, the Castle was a club in the Bronx, 1:23:17.320 --> 1:23:19.840 and I think he was with some guys and I 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:21.759 don't know if they were trying to rob him or whatever, 1:23:22.240 --> 1:23:28.479 but they were just shooting across from car to car. 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:34.200 So wait, you're in this era and you know you 1:23:34.400 --> 1:23:36.679 just castle him into the gum like at no point 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:39.519 is it just with you? Is it like they haven't 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:40.600 a shootout or. 1:23:40.680 --> 1:23:41.200 Is just like. 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:51.600 Actually, to be honest with you, viz when you on 1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:53.759 the show, I actually came up with the sound effect 1:23:53.800 --> 1:23:55.320 just for you or. 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:02.400 The yo what they were busting? 1:24:02.560 --> 1:24:08.240 Like my man Ralphie got shot in his eye like 1:24:08.479 --> 1:24:11.800 this now on damn. 1:24:13.200 --> 1:24:13.400 Wow. 1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:16.120 They had a lot of They had a lot of 1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:18.400 They had a lot of good fights that in quarters though. 1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:22.840 You they had this dude coming from Connecticut. He was muscle, 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:28.479 had a tank, he's gonna start talking dancing with dudes 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:32.400 from Brooklyn Girls and everything. He's not worried all sudden 1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:48.680 that record came on. They got on him like they 1:24:48.800 --> 1:24:52.840 got him, like Bee, I wonder how much money could 1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:57.760 you get? One of the probably got you saying that 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:03.840 whenever what comes on you, it was time to keep 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:12.240 by uh uh Funky by Ultimate net Wow really sets 1:25:12.360 --> 1:25:12.720 them three. 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:16.559 So you just knew. 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:19.800 Instantly that when those records come on, like somebody Jane 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:23.000 trying to get you for your Jane. 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:24.320 No, I stang with them. 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:25.800 I used to get them in. 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:30.439 So your approach was befriend them or but I was 1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:34.280 friends with them before records. So yeah, so I'm you know, 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:36.439 I'm with them. I used to borrow money off them 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:40.320 from stuff like the real fifty cent, the real fifty cent, 1:25:41.240 --> 1:25:45.000 the real fifty cent from Brooklyn. She stick up am 1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:48.640 the car in the daytime and all that. I mean, 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:52.000 And you weren't afraid of if we friends. I mean, 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:56.920 you got people around your way that's gangster friends. You 1:25:56.960 --> 1:25:58.439 don't have people that's gangster that you. 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:05.280 Yes, I put it on the show. Yeah I'm talking 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:06.640 about these are real gangs. I know. 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:08.800 It's just my. 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:16.960 People what they toes out with timberlands and stuff on. 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:22.919 This was real gangsters, supreme, All of them was real gangsters. 1:26:25.200 --> 1:26:29.080 So wait, can I ask how many uh uh Dapper 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:33.320 Dan outfits do you have? And what was the copying 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:36.400 adopt a Dapper Dan outfit? How long would it take 1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:40.200 from measuring to here's your outfit? 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:44.639 Well, I used to hang with that, so about half 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:50.600 half a year, half half a half hour? Wait? What what? 1:26:53.240 --> 1:26:55.320 I'm sorry, I gotta bring them. I gotta bring them. 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:56.200 I can call them right now. 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:57.599 No I haven't. Haven't. 1:26:57.680 --> 1:26:59.000 I have a dapper damn jacket. 1:26:59.040 --> 1:27:02.120 He made me one. But but it takes a half hour. 1:27:02.160 --> 1:27:03.800 I'm thinking you said measurements? 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:05.960 No, but like how long would it take from like 1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:10.040 how long would it take from to make it to Wow? 1:27:10.280 --> 1:27:14.519 Because even googling you, you have some ill dapper Dan stuff. 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:16.679 I've never seen nobody you know got. 1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:20.439 Up. I used to sit out there. I was out 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:24.360 there when Mitch Green got punched by Mike Mitch Blood. 1:27:25.720 --> 1:27:28.320 I was sitting right there with my what dapping them? 1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.160 You were there when sending what It was. 1:27:31.200 --> 1:27:32.080 Early in the morning. 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:40.360 Bow, So Michigan fores out there? You know, I know 1:27:40.400 --> 1:27:43.680 who is you know who's dapper damn like. 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:47.320 Exactly design all the outfits with the m c M, 1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:51.679 the findy and ain't know about for everybody. 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:55.040 You do me pajamas and everything I've seen. 1:27:56.400 --> 1:28:00.200 I feel like you have more crazier dapper dance up. 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:02.759 And where is that stuff now? Is it in the storage? 1:28:03.520 --> 1:28:05.320 It's next to that beat machine that you can't see. 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:11.240 Where do you keep your Where do you keep your artifacts? 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.080 Who preserves your artifacts? 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:15.280 I play with them most of the time. 1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:18.280 Oh so you actually collect your artifacts? 1:28:18.520 --> 1:28:23.599 I touched my joints and all my Johnny Lightning cars, 1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:25.160 my AFX everything. 1:28:25.240 --> 1:28:27.040 But does that in a different place than the throwbacks 1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:28.920 because you got different collections of different things. 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:31.120 Because I got my house next to me and then 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:35.240 I got my house. This is Marylands? When did you 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:37.679 move to Maryland ninety four? 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:39.920 Wait? 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:41.240 What part of not Baltimore? 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:41.519 No? 1:28:41.800 --> 1:28:42.240 Hell no? 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:44.360 I mean I love Baltimore. 1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:48.519 But boye okay, I have a question, biz. 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:52.080 It's a little off topic, but every topic. 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:56.840 What's what's your favorite record store in New York or 1:28:57.120 --> 1:28:59.160 and and also like what's your favorite record store in 1:28:59.240 --> 1:28:59.559 the world. 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:03.799 There's like a couple they used to have a store 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:06.080 in Phoenix called Prickly Pair. 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:12.840 Okay, and they had a one record Finders in La. 1:29:14.479 --> 1:29:17.559 Do you on latch mount for the amount of records 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:21.960 you own? Is it now just to the point where 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:23.479 it's like I own them? 1:29:24.520 --> 1:29:24.920 Or for you? 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:28.360 Is it like, yo, I'm gonna make some of the 1:29:28.439 --> 1:29:29.519 funkiest records ever. 1:29:29.920 --> 1:29:30.320 Or is it. 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:33.040 Trade off to something else? 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:33.840 Or is it. 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:39.560 You just want to live and listen to It's like you, like, 1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:42.120 do you utilize the stuff you collect? 1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:42.360 Now? 1:29:42.720 --> 1:29:47.080 I'll admit maybe in the past ten years I've just 1:29:47.200 --> 1:29:51.120 been collecting and collecting and hoarding without even It's to 1:29:51.200 --> 1:29:52.839 the point now where I won't even open. 1:29:52.720 --> 1:29:56.640 The boxes that get shipped to my spots because I 1:29:56.760 --> 1:30:00.200 look through some stuff to make sure they're in there. Now, 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:03.080 you might buy something and it's from across seas and 1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:04.719 you get it and it might be a brick in there. 1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:11.040 To make sure things is in there. So Iday with 1:30:11.120 --> 1:30:12.639 my forty five, So you know what I mean? 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:17.880 So are you are you more infatuated with the record 1:30:18.080 --> 1:30:19.559 or the music that's on the record? 1:30:19.720 --> 1:30:20.280 You know what I mean? 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:23.280 Like, as do you collect the records because of your 1:30:23.320 --> 1:30:25.840 love for all the you know, the artwork and this 1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:27.439 that and the other thing, or the music that's on. 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:28.320 It, the sound. 1:30:29.760 --> 1:30:31.760 You know, if you buy an album that you've never seen, 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:33.839 like you got white Orange? 1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:41.080 No, what's white orange album? Look it up? Loving this ship? 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:42.680 Look it up? 1:30:43.040 --> 1:30:45.880 I just I mean, I could have told you from 1:30:45.920 --> 1:30:49.360 the gatelight Hea that he will name like twenty things 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:51.120 that I will automatically have it. 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:53.760 No to look look it up right now? 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:54.519 You know, I'm not mad. 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:57.479 It should be an album sweets jes fusing group. Yeah, 1:30:57.520 --> 1:30:59.559 it should be a it should be a white orange 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:00.519 on it. What is it? 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:02.080 The sweetest jazz fusion group? 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:04.680 Maybe let me see the coming let me see the 1:31:04.880 --> 1:31:05.439 white orange. 1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:12.240 It's a white orange, yeah I do. I've never seen that. Shit? 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:15.960 What year is that? From? Nineteen eighty? All right? So 1:31:16.080 --> 1:31:18.760 what about it? I just like the way they play 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:22.120 on it. They play different than anybody else. The sounds 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:22.960 is incredible. 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:24.960 Hook me up, biz, I got you. 1:31:25.840 --> 1:31:29.280 I'm giving you, I'm dropping jewels, I'm giving you names. 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:33.800 I didn't never know what that is. 1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:36.120 So at this point, you got every record that you want, though, right? 1:31:36.240 --> 1:31:38.559 Is it one? Right now? I mean, you can never 1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:41.880 have every record you want, but I'm close. I'm like 1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:45.599 ninety nine point nine. What are you? What you're looking 1:31:45.680 --> 1:31:49.080 for that you do not have? Like? What do you? 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:55.800 What's your holy grail? I gotta get this record. It's 1:31:55.840 --> 1:32:02.000 a forty five. It's the Sony Walkman commercial on forty five? 1:32:02.920 --> 1:32:04.080 What I got one? 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:05.519 I'm just looking for another one. 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:09.680 You notice this is probably the episode of Question of 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:12.600 Suprea that I've done the least sound effects on. It 1:32:12.760 --> 1:32:16.400 just stumps even me to even what are you looking for? 1:32:17.640 --> 1:32:19.519 I don't know what I'm looking for? You know what, Biz, 1:32:19.720 --> 1:32:24.800 I'd be honest with you. I think I'm satisfied you guys. 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.960 You guys are slowly trying to lure me into this 1:32:28.160 --> 1:32:35.040 forty five hole that I get. I think I understand it. 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:39.080 But if I'm honest, I think I'm trying to resist it. 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:41.479 What's your name? Is trying to pull me into it? 1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:42.639 Natasha? 1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:47.639 Yeah, Natasha Diggs is really trying to lure me into 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:53.080 this forty five uh sunk in place that I don't 1:32:53.120 --> 1:32:55.200 know if I Because the thing is that when I 1:32:55.439 --> 1:33:00.599 when I commit to when I when I commit to collecting, 1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:04.800 I go super hard on it. And I think I'm 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:07.680 at the place now where I'm like, I'm satisfied. But 1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:10.240 but but but the thing is now I do I 1:33:10.360 --> 1:33:12.519 do multi tracks? Multi tracks? 1:33:13.360 --> 1:33:13.920 We all did. 1:33:13.960 --> 1:33:20.360 Remember, That's why I'm going to talk to you this over. 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:25.800 I just want to mixes. I don't care about all 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:26.400 those stuff. 1:33:26.840 --> 1:33:28.600 Look, I'm just saying, what are you. 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:30.200 Trying to get? Is the trade going on? 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:32.439 We don't know about you? 1:33:32.800 --> 1:33:35.160 Come on, we always The thing is, ever since I 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.800 known quest, we always talked about this. Here's the thing. 1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:43.719 Here's the thing. What one item can you talk about 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:46.400 that you know that you're not allowed to talk about 1:33:46.520 --> 1:33:47.160 as far as. 1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:55.360 You owning something? I mean, I see that's the thing. You. 1:33:56.240 --> 1:33:59.960 I feel like there's basic level, basic pedestrian level collecting 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:04.040 like Funky Jummer forty five or some real super obvious. 1:34:05.000 --> 1:34:06.440 Then there's. 1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:09.679 Multi drives you told about record. 1:34:09.680 --> 1:34:12.360 No, No, I'm just saying in general, like people have 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:16.680 general pedestrian collective stuff that's you know, fair, you know 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:21.240 everyone has. And then there's advanced level stuff that you 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:24.120 know that you might have to go to this particular 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:28.519 country to get this specific mix. And then there's the 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:34.720 third rail level of like you know, you have some 1:34:34.880 --> 1:34:37.400 ship that someone gave you in secret, but you can't 1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:42.759 share with the world ever, and it's like, Frank, Mmmm, 1:34:44.400 --> 1:34:44.760 you got that? 1:34:54.600 --> 1:35:05.000 Which which joint? Which joint? Before I let go multi 1:35:05.080 --> 1:35:06.840 tracks for his sons? 1:35:09.760 --> 1:35:12.080 Does he own his own multi tracks? 1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:25.120 BC Boys was at Capital in the nineties. I mean, 1:35:25.200 --> 1:35:30.719 but that's that's another story for I keep going. Another 1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:35.479 thing I got from somebody, it's between us or wait, 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:37.760 we're on the air. I know you're saying out here they. 1:35:37.760 --> 1:35:38.360 Can't find it. 1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:40.559 Bluesing Pants forty five? 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:43.439 Really, no such thing. 1:35:44.160 --> 1:35:48.320 I'll show you the picture. Wait, what country? What country? 1:35:48.560 --> 1:35:50.760 It don't matter what country is direct, it's not an 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:54.080 American person, it don't matter. It's the record. Okay, Blues 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:54.439 and Pants? 1:35:54.479 --> 1:35:54.800 What is this? 1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:00.479 Not minutes? 1:36:00.560 --> 1:36:01.280 I never knew there was. 1:36:01.479 --> 1:36:03.680 It was a single, damn. 1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:11.240 Quest You still have the same number, right you? Picture 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:17.519 hit biz ladies and gentlemen. This was another episode picture. 1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:22.200 Do you have like every ct I record? He will say, 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:24.240 yeah them, Yeah, got most of them. 1:36:24.280 --> 1:36:26.840 There's one that's sort of the holy grail CTI record 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:27.760 that I'm trying to find. 1:36:28.720 --> 1:36:30.680 He's going to say, yeah, he's never going to see it. 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:33.720 It's called It's called stone Bone by J and K and. 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:37.920 My Stuff. I got two trombone player. Guys. 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:41.280 Uh, it's like, yeah, I think it was Japan only 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:41.679 or something. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:46.679 You got Doom, David Matthews, I got you got doom? Yeah, 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:52.840 Bob Jason World forty five, you got on one side. 1:36:53.760 --> 1:36:54.559 I have a tenant. 1:36:55.120 --> 1:37:00.680 I have a tenants of nautilusts uh like not a 1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:03.680 twelve inch but a tendancy tendency. I think I have 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:06.559 a tenants of Nautilus uh five. 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:10.120 For those listening, this is like the Okay Corral standoff 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:16.840 of record, like they're staring. There's so much amazing that another. 1:37:16.600 --> 1:37:28.439 One real real Yet to brag on anything I had, Honey, 1:37:28.479 --> 1:37:29.720 buys you anything right now? 1:37:29.800 --> 1:37:38.639 But asley clip a real, real, real label. Oh, non 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:41.320 Chuck Brown, I got it from Chuck brod used lived 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:43.080 down the block for me before he passed. 1:37:48.560 --> 1:37:49.840 Non Sussex record. 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:51.799 Non, No, that's sauce. 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:58.639 I have Ale Roads clip when they were on a sauce. 1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:06.320 No, you bet you at thousand dollars sauce. No, you're right. 1:38:06.400 --> 1:38:09.800 You watched the made Source. I made a mistake. Its 1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:10.599 on s Yeah. 1:38:11.240 --> 1:38:14.720 Clarence Atabel, Yes, I don't have the forty five. 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:19.080 I don't believe you know. I'm so exactly. 1:38:19.960 --> 1:38:23.200 You're wait paid in full break just. 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:28.400 So I gotta see even better. I gotta see even better. 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:33.840 You like it too, on a real twelve and forty five? 1:38:34.200 --> 1:38:39.920 What biz? No? 1:38:40.160 --> 1:38:41.000 No, I'm I know. 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:41.680 Look it up. 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:46.400 I know twelve minutes right now, look it up right now. 1:38:46.760 --> 1:38:49.160 This is I'm yo. You like it too, straight up? 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:53.360 Look up for you. If they got a picture listening 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.759 and hearing me stumped and all this ship, it's awesome, 1:38:56.840 --> 1:38:57.840 all this kryptonite. 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:00.240 I'm gonna tell you. Look it up. Let me tell 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:02.400 y'all something twelve inch. 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:05.040 I gotta get my powers back from Germany. We're gonna 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:10.120 do round two from there. This is I'm gonna get 1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:10.639 my power back. 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:13.400 Heldo, SI making it up. 1:39:13.479 --> 1:39:16.800 No, it's a real from Germany. Come on, son, okay, biz, 1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:17.479 what's this? 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:19.880 Oh that's easy. 1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:21.800 I'm going to make it real fun up for you, 1:39:22.120 --> 1:39:24.599 all right, And I got forty five. 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:31.320 This is not mister mean. 1:39:32.360 --> 1:39:42.080 Foster Silvers, mister Montain, huh uh, I know what it is, 1:39:42.160 --> 1:39:42.599 but I can't. 1:39:43.640 --> 1:39:44.880 H uh. 1:39:48.840 --> 1:39:54.200 Come, Oh, let's walking all right. That's if there's a will, 1:39:54.400 --> 1:40:03.439 there's a way by Don Coved Okay, all right, next yeah, 1:40:04.680 --> 1:40:11.840 Oh that's yeah, okay, I forgot that. I see. At 1:40:11.960 --> 1:40:13.680 first I was going to pick the song you thought 1:40:13.720 --> 1:40:15.360 I was gonna do, and I was like, no, never 1:40:15.680 --> 1:40:17.160 got me with that. You got let me find that 1:40:17.240 --> 1:40:20.679 same a living. Another song is singing in the morning, 1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:27.400 Singing in the morning. That's funky. Oh sing in the morning. 1:40:27.920 --> 1:40:32.680 All right, I'll do one humble bred Oh. Wait, and 1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:36.080 now a humble Brad. I think it is basically it's 1:40:36.120 --> 1:40:40.640 quest now I'm not even going to play for it. 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:47.320 This. Do you have funky worm stems? 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:50.160 Do I got a funky worm? 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:55.200 I think I do the stems, my little fucker punk 1:40:56.400 --> 1:40:56.960 the stems. 1:40:57.040 --> 1:40:58.880 I think I got funky Ohio players. 1:40:59.120 --> 1:41:02.599 Yes, I think I do. I gotta love, I think 1:41:02.600 --> 1:41:05.400 I do. I think that's everybody got that. I think No, 1:41:09.000 --> 1:41:14.120 I think about the real I think boys had that first. 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:18.640 It's like a sult mine, right, you guys have a 1:41:18.720 --> 1:41:21.280 special relationship with Armand and his son. 1:41:21.600 --> 1:41:22.599 Look about. 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:28.120 No, not the forty five with the with the with 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:34.160 the defensive. Yes, you're talking about the rare forty five 1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:37.120 where they put you trying to play smart on I 1:41:37.160 --> 1:41:39.559 hate when they do that. Wait one of the one 1:41:39.600 --> 1:41:42.800 of the side note Dylan side note. One of one 1:41:42.840 --> 1:41:46.160 of the one of the greatest games of of of 1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:50.840 who's on first between Dylan and I was when we 1:41:50.960 --> 1:41:53.520 were clearing UH the samples. 1:41:53.120 --> 1:41:53.519 For the Light. 1:41:55.120 --> 1:41:57.000 He tried to say funky one. He's like and funky 1:41:57.040 --> 1:41:59.160 warmed by how players. I'm like, that's not funky worm. 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:01.400 He's like, yeah, it's fun I'm like, that's not funky worm. 1:42:01.479 --> 1:42:02.719 That's you're getting to be too smart. 1:42:03.120 --> 1:42:05.720 And then they got too different. Both of them got 1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:08.040 the break on the right, but sound and break. 1:42:08.400 --> 1:42:11.680 Dylan didn't realize that at the time. So when I 1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:13.840 finally got to Detroit and he played the forty five 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:16.240 for me like we were short of, like, yo, I 1:42:16.360 --> 1:42:18.080 bet you five hundred dollars, and then he played it. 1:42:18.479 --> 1:42:19.400 I was like, holy shit. 1:42:19.479 --> 1:42:22.760 And then both of them got them right. So Troy 1:42:22.840 --> 1:42:27.160 Emeralds and UH and Ohio, but that's just same soundings. 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:29.880 But I still consider that, you know, Detroit Emeralds and 1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:30.600 not you know. 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:33.760 Nah, the two different records. Yeah, but they took it 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:36.160 from Detroit Emeralds. I don't know who they took it from. 1:42:36.240 --> 1:42:38.760 I know it's on the record, but when you listen 1:42:38.840 --> 1:42:42.200 to Detroit Emeralds break it still this way. Yeah, yeah, 1:42:42.320 --> 1:42:45.519 they just took it anyway. This is your last one? 1:42:48.840 --> 1:42:50.680 Really are you now? 1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:56.599 I say ship that's mel Mellow right on. Yeah, that's 1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:57.640 a distinctive. 1:42:57.200 --> 1:42:59.920 Base suicide because I think I thought I had known that. 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:04.160 The only one didn't say anything. Next, Yes, this is 1:43:04.439 --> 1:43:05.360 I'm sorry, I'll play the. 1:43:08.040 --> 1:43:08.360 Mellow. 1:43:10.040 --> 1:43:24.479 Next is that he sounds like, yeah, I don't know, 1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:33.040 oh wow, more steams than his orchestra from it's called 1:43:33.080 --> 1:43:36.280 the Long Wait. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 1:43:36.320 --> 1:43:42.439 part of the Hawaii five soundtrack. There's your last one? Biz, Oh, 1:43:42.520 --> 1:43:43.840 I know what that is? That's uh. 1:43:44.640 --> 1:43:46.439 I got the I got the record, I got the 1:43:46.520 --> 1:43:48.519 forty five, I got the album. 1:43:48.760 --> 1:43:49.360 I got the album. 1:43:52.360 --> 1:43:53.240 Yeah, Jay z. 1:43:54.720 --> 1:44:00.360 Eddie Henderson inside you? Is there any question of we 1:44:00.439 --> 1:44:04.920 could just play who got? What's fun? 1:44:05.120 --> 1:44:06.000 Do we learned anything? 1:44:06.560 --> 1:44:09.920 Listen, let's just fast forward to the end. What did 1:44:09.960 --> 1:44:10.559 you learn today? 1:44:10.760 --> 1:44:10.960 Man? 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:13.599 Because we didn't learn something, we gotta ask business. 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:14.800 We gotta do the second go around. 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:15.800 Man, What do you learn? 1:44:15.960 --> 1:44:20.080 Is like dude, like he's like the master collector of 1:44:20.200 --> 1:44:23.080 like everybody, and like any record that you want to 1:44:23.160 --> 1:44:23.439 know is. 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:23.840 Like you got. 1:44:24.240 --> 1:44:26.920 I feel like there's a question that we're forgetting to ask. 1:44:26.960 --> 1:44:30.760 It's gonna be like Captain obvious. Once, Oh okay, I 1:44:32.040 --> 1:44:33.320 found out I've got to ask. 1:44:33.200 --> 1:44:34.599 About Yo Gabba Gabba. But go ahead. 1:44:34.760 --> 1:44:35.400 What did you learn? 1:44:36.479 --> 1:44:38.120 I learned that I could listen to Big Markey talk 1:44:38.200 --> 1:44:41.880 for many hours and I'm totally with matter of fact, 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:44.240 while were added, give let's talk about children's music. 1:44:45.080 --> 1:44:48.160 I know about that, and so the same. So yeah, 1:44:48.200 --> 1:44:50.680 how did you how did you get involved with the 1:44:50.800 --> 1:44:51.920 Yo Gabba Gabba camp? 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:53.920 What happened with Yo Gabba Gabba? 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:56.559 They asked me to come in to do the dancing dance, 1:44:57.160 --> 1:44:59.400 but the night before I dj in l A and 1:44:59.520 --> 1:45:02.120 you know you standing up for like five six hours 1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:07.240 you tied. So I was lazy, and so I just said, Yo, Christians, 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:11.200 while I make them, why don't teach the kids how 1:45:11.240 --> 1:45:14.479 to do the beat box? I named it biz Beata 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:16.479 today and then we did it. They put that on 1:45:16.600 --> 1:45:20.200 the on the pilot and then they got an old 1:45:20.200 --> 1:45:22.360 woman response and they put me down. 1:45:24.040 --> 1:45:27.080 Are they still actively shooting stuff for it? They and 1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:28.720 they arguing with. 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:33.720 Because earlier about your Gabba Gabba getting you all the way, 1:45:33.800 --> 1:45:35.360 well not getting you to Japan. But getting you to 1:45:35.400 --> 1:45:37.920 the techniques to get the special turn in. 1:45:38.040 --> 1:45:42.080 Because anybody wants to give make their kids happy. 1:45:42.160 --> 1:45:43.280 That's what I was going to ask you. How many 1:45:43.439 --> 1:45:45.920 opportunities has that opened up for you in a different ways? 1:45:45.960 --> 1:45:47.639 You never would have thought being on the Kids show 1:45:48.120 --> 1:45:49.080 opened up this door. 1:45:54.880 --> 1:45:58.160 I think she meant more career goals and kids knowing 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:02.000 you're not just I always play with kids. 1:46:02.040 --> 1:46:04.639 I love kids anyway, Yeah, I always just even sitting 1:46:04.640 --> 1:46:07.040 there listening to you talk like you're a walking like 1:46:07.200 --> 1:46:09.960 cartoon characters that have you ever done any of that 1:46:10.160 --> 1:46:11.000 or had any opportunities? 1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:16.479 I did Strangebob once. I did a couple of things, 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:19.880 but you know, I'm musically driven. 1:46:19.960 --> 1:46:21.760 So what was it like doing Men in Breack? Like? 1:46:22.280 --> 1:46:26.599 I saw the premiere screening of it, and I'll say 1:46:26.640 --> 1:46:30.960 that you got a bigger response than Michael Jackson he did, 1:46:31.439 --> 1:46:33.680 because when Michael Jackson was shocked, like, oh he hit it, 1:46:34.280 --> 1:46:36.240 But when they saw Bizz like, the whole audience was 1:46:36.439 --> 1:46:37.439 whoa Like you know. 1:46:37.560 --> 1:46:42.639 Like what happened was Jeff wasn't going out with Will 1:46:42.920 --> 1:46:46.600 at the time, and he was doing all the albums 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:50.800 and Hidden Beaches right right, So Jeff said Jeff and 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:54.320 Will said, Yo, why don't you be DJ? So I 1:46:54.400 --> 1:46:58.679 started going out with Will, so I was hanging around. 1:46:58.800 --> 1:47:01.559 I hung around the set one time and Tommy Lee 1:47:01.640 --> 1:47:03.280 and said, Yo, why don't you get your man to 1:47:03.320 --> 1:47:07.160 do the B box and you'all talk together and that'll 1:47:07.200 --> 1:47:10.559 be a scene. Wow damn, I said, thank you, Will. 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:13.360 They're the greatest. 1:47:14.520 --> 1:47:16.520 Jeff is the greatest. 1:47:17.479 --> 1:47:18.120 I love him. 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:19.040 That's my brother. 1:47:19.120 --> 1:47:22.800 I take a bullet from what's the craziest evolution you've seen? 1:47:22.840 --> 1:47:24.320 Because a lot of the folks that you came up with, 1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:28.000 just like you, evolve crazy like. But like looking at Will, Jeff, 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:30.920 looking at so many Latifa, like whoever you looked at 1:47:30.960 --> 1:47:34.120 and went like shit, I just would have never but 1:47:34.400 --> 1:47:35.000 just dope. 1:47:35.280 --> 1:47:40.479 Flash just that, I mean, just think of the records 1:47:40.520 --> 1:47:44.120 he found. Would hip hop be like that if he 1:47:44.280 --> 1:47:49.760 wasn't here? True? Not even I mean Bam Bodies, Bamboda 1:47:50.600 --> 1:47:53.280 did or did or but Flash. 1:47:53.680 --> 1:47:55.920 So flashes at the top of the pinnacle for you. 1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:57.600 As far as Flash. 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:04.120 The El Brothers, just think about it. We all eating 1:48:04.360 --> 1:48:05.960 I mean, you play. 1:48:07.800 --> 1:48:14.280 I'm just saying, wait, you mentioned the Ol Brothers. What 1:48:14.600 --> 1:48:18.439 crew from back in the day? Who I mean, who's 1:48:18.479 --> 1:48:22.600 the ultramatenetic from back of the day that are like 1:48:22.720 --> 1:48:26.760 pioneers that will not get the dude credit. I'm talking 1:48:27.120 --> 1:48:29.519 from the original Eric. So you always hear about he 1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:33.360 Cold Chuss Brothers and the Funky four plus one, like 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:35.679 they always named these crew, But who's that one crew 1:48:35.760 --> 1:48:40.920 that had like ill routines, ill techniques that didn't get 1:48:40.960 --> 1:48:44.200 there just Dan. 1:48:42.840 --> 1:48:45.920 Even though they had records Master Dawn crash crew. 1:48:48.520 --> 1:48:53.400 I had boilers Dog, but I forgot them first round ever, 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:55.600 bit I hate that. I'm not a room see be 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:58.800 like first Round. All my cities first round. 1:48:58.800 --> 1:49:06.760 I've ever been that first speed rap? Talk about it 1:49:06.800 --> 1:49:10.040 if I can think about it. Oh yeah, the crash 1:49:10.240 --> 1:49:14.400 is three too. Yeah, it's just the point of I'm 1:49:14.479 --> 1:49:17.360 just happy to still be alive to watch what's going on. 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:23.040 Come on, you're the roots but you biz no, no, 1:49:23.160 --> 1:49:25.479 no this listen one to get ready tell you you 1:49:25.840 --> 1:49:29.400 DJ did the White House? Listen forget? 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:33.280 I mean forget later. Yeah the first time. Wait, this 1:49:33.360 --> 1:49:38.120 is a funny story for you. So we're at I 1:49:38.240 --> 1:49:41.439 forget what event it was that was? No, no, no, 1:49:41.720 --> 1:49:45.840 the first time I went to the White House correspondence dinner. Oh, yeah, 1:49:45.960 --> 1:49:49.880 and I was begging to be the DJ, and they 1:49:49.920 --> 1:49:51.479 were like, no, we can't because you know, we got 1:49:51.520 --> 1:49:56.200 biz And I was like, come on, man, so business spinning. 1:49:56.880 --> 1:49:58.840 And he puts his record on I never heard before 1:49:59.840 --> 1:50:03.360 I and as a DJ, and I'm looking and suddenly 1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:06.360 he puts this record on and I swear it's like 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:08.760 you remember the scene. I'm giving an old reference, but 1:50:08.840 --> 1:50:10.960 this is the only way I could describe it. You know, 1:50:11.040 --> 1:50:13.200 it was like three o'clock and the brown Hornet comes on. 1:50:13.479 --> 1:50:13.840 And like. 1:50:15.360 --> 1:50:18.559 All of them, but you know, you remember, I'll explain 1:50:18.600 --> 1:50:22.280 that every everyone just stopped what they were doing and 1:50:22.520 --> 1:50:26.719 instantly ran to the dance floor to start doing the wobble. 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:34.280 But it was like Rachel maddowt it was like the 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:39.880 white wobble, like white people do, like stop and I 1:50:40.000 --> 1:50:42.680 didn't know it, even like Torrey was like leading this 1:50:42.880 --> 1:50:46.479 line and I never heard the record before. I'm like, wait, 1:50:46.800 --> 1:50:50.160 what's this and vin Bis looking like you never heard 1:50:50.200 --> 1:50:50.959 of the wobble? 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:54.639 You had never heard of the okay, right. 1:50:55.360 --> 1:50:57.640 It was like maybe maybe two months old, and not 1:50:57.920 --> 1:51:05.600 just wasn't on it, but I was. I was like 1:51:06.520 --> 1:51:09.000 d C ship or whatever, because at the rate war 1:51:09.120 --> 1:51:12.639 to knew the dance, and I was like, damn, I'm 1:51:12.800 --> 1:51:14.599 funked up in the game because the wobble. 1:51:14.760 --> 1:51:20.200 It goes every fan reunion, every wedding reception, a Cuban shuffle. 1:51:20.280 --> 1:51:23.559 Yeah, those lying that like black folks, I. 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:25.120 Mean, you're right, start south and Midwest. 1:51:26.080 --> 1:51:29.880 But I was just that the attendees of the White 1:51:29.920 --> 1:51:34.640 House correspondence like not only knew the dance, but like, 1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:37.520 because wait to do today everything. 1:51:38.200 --> 1:51:41.200 It's so nice to be I'll be right back. 1:51:44.640 --> 1:51:46.240 That was That was That was a crazy moment. 1:51:46.800 --> 1:51:50.120 You cut off business compliment. I just worry about notice compliments. 1:51:50.360 --> 1:51:58.160 You want to hear compliments, compliment what you learn I 1:51:58.280 --> 1:52:00.600 learned that he's better than you. 1:52:03.560 --> 1:52:04.200 Pretty much. 1:52:05.640 --> 1:52:08.120 A lot of ways, sug. 1:52:12.000 --> 1:52:17.519 I have one more question, though, there's this Crieff like a. 1:52:17.560 --> 1:52:27.320 Lot hold on. Yeah, wait, ladies, Steve Stevens he said under. 1:52:28.960 --> 1:52:31.600 The Louis, yeah you have that. 1:52:32.400 --> 1:52:36.479 You have Wait did you say to two or true? 1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:37.000 What do you say? 1:52:41.520 --> 1:52:45.120 The Bob James joint came in came in that too, right, Okay. 1:52:45.160 --> 1:52:48.280 I've been scouring, like even. 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:49.800 I couldn't find that for Steve, and I've been looking 1:52:49.840 --> 1:52:51.519 for Yeah, it's very like. 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:54.080 First of all, not a lot of people know about it. 1:52:54.080 --> 1:52:56.160 And second of all, they must have made like ten 1:52:56.200 --> 1:52:58.439 of them or some ship because they're they're not around. 1:52:58.680 --> 1:53:00.360 Like you can't find you got I think we had 1:53:00.360 --> 1:53:02.719 twenty seventeen. A lot of things ain't. 1:53:02.479 --> 1:53:03.080 Gonna be around. 1:53:03.360 --> 1:53:04.200 Yeah, but you can't. 1:53:04.520 --> 1:53:07.560 It's not it's not. You gotta think if you was 1:53:07.680 --> 1:53:11.160 shopping for records in the eighties in the nineties, everything 1:53:11.280 --> 1:53:11.679 was around. 1:53:11.800 --> 1:53:14.920 This came out in eight is when, but it was 1:53:15.120 --> 1:53:17.760 it was a promotional thing where like I got it. 1:53:17.800 --> 1:53:23.920 From Iole, from rat I stole it from BLS because 1:53:23.920 --> 1:53:26.280 they had w w r L and b LS update 1:53:26.800 --> 1:53:30.240 what I say say so not w b LS. I 1:53:30.360 --> 1:53:30.600 love it. 1:53:30.760 --> 1:53:33.400 You just took it from a radio station, both of them. 1:53:33.600 --> 1:53:34.439 From the radio station. 1:53:34.600 --> 1:53:38.120 Steve hasn't been as excited ever, you know. And it's funny. 1:53:38.360 --> 1:53:43.400 There's always in every hip hop producer's story, there's a. 1:53:43.439 --> 1:53:45.880 Straight hold on a second, can we trade something? 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:52.639 There's my phone? Take this, it's first born. There's always 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:56.000 a radio station that you rated all them colleges that 1:53:56.120 --> 1:54:01.200 they always has that one intern that I was super 1:54:01.320 --> 1:54:04.559 nice too. That was just like I don't care about 1:54:04.600 --> 1:54:05.920 these records, you can go through them. 1:54:05.880 --> 1:54:10.800 And that's time to get the records eighty. Because it 1:54:10.920 --> 1:54:14.519 was the transition period to the season. I was wow. 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:24.800 I was like, yeah, let's I mean, Steve has been 1:54:24.840 --> 1:54:29.439 in quite a pain for this episode, but the second 1:54:29.640 --> 1:54:34.720 for his whole life. The second that Bissan mentioned that briefcase, 1:54:35.600 --> 1:54:41.280 it was like, Lazard, you remember another old reference when 1:54:41.400 --> 1:54:43.760 Warning McFly came to life once his parents kissed at 1:54:43.800 --> 1:54:52.840 the champ angel and he started playing. That was the 1:54:53.120 --> 1:54:55.440 all right, boss, Bill, what did you learn? You learned 1:54:55.480 --> 1:54:57.880 that this episode is going a half hour overboard? 1:54:59.080 --> 1:55:00.360 I looked too long. No no, no, no, no, no 1:55:00.360 --> 1:55:00.440 no no. 1:55:01.520 --> 1:55:03.400 I kind of want to co sign with Steve said, 1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:06.040 I've been shopping record for records with you. I think 1:55:06.040 --> 1:55:09.240 I want to go with BIZ next. Okay, yeah, that's 1:55:09.320 --> 1:55:12.680 that's the case. Do you still go records out? 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:13.800 Let me see it? Nah? 1:55:14.840 --> 1:55:19.160 Exactly, it's he said, he got ninety nine everything that 1:55:19.240 --> 1:55:19.800 he wants. 1:55:20.040 --> 1:55:23.480 Right, Okay, come on, quest even if you come out 1:55:23.480 --> 1:55:26.320 and make a case to DJ withold what records you 1:55:26.440 --> 1:55:28.400 really looking forward that you got to find? Right now? 1:55:29.520 --> 1:55:32.000 I'm telling you, Biz, I think I'm satisfied. 1:55:32.840 --> 1:55:35.720 I I'm good, A good. 1:55:35.880 --> 1:55:38.160 Yes I have. I have about one hundred thousand records, 1:55:38.400 --> 1:55:41.600 and I'll say that of those hundred thousands, I know 1:55:41.840 --> 1:55:46.560 that at least a good nine hundred are like ultra 1:55:46.800 --> 1:55:48.920 ultra special. I mean the rest is like, you know, 1:55:49.280 --> 1:55:54.560 do I really need all the high energy records from Motown? Now? 1:55:56.040 --> 1:55:58.120 Do I need like dance all night by the Parts? 1:55:58.560 --> 1:56:01.080 No? On? People? Do you got to show enough? 1:56:03.120 --> 1:56:05.640 I know I have every People record ever you got? 1:56:12.080 --> 1:56:12.240 Yeah? 1:56:12.400 --> 1:56:13.480 Oh sweet, signed in the wicket? 1:56:13.560 --> 1:56:14.200 You got forty five? 1:56:14.400 --> 1:56:18.120 Show up, dude, you got the forty five justin Timberlake Joint? 1:56:18.160 --> 1:56:19.120 Do you have the forty five? 1:56:20.680 --> 1:56:22.160 I own it? How do I own it? 1:56:25.560 --> 1:56:28.840 I do not have a forty five? I think, No, 1:56:29.160 --> 1:56:31.120 there's not a record I know I own show. 1:56:33.120 --> 1:56:33.360 Once. 1:56:33.640 --> 1:56:36.760 Justin told me that record for Suiting, Time, Suit and Tie. 1:56:36.880 --> 1:56:38.120 I knew the record when I heard it. 1:56:39.280 --> 1:56:42.240 Yes, I own that record. I don't know which configuration 1:56:42.360 --> 1:56:44.240 I own it. I got to forty five, but I 1:56:44.360 --> 1:56:48.200 know I know people. One is the purple people. 1:56:48.720 --> 1:56:51.080 There's a wait, there's a white there's a white label. 1:56:51.480 --> 1:56:55.600 Yeah, I do own one. Jesus, did I just tell 1:56:55.600 --> 1:56:58.000 you read and they got a purple didn't hear the 1:56:58.040 --> 1:56:58.360 red one. 1:56:58.640 --> 1:57:01.360 Yes, I know I have a white label, sure enough, 1:57:01.760 --> 1:57:05.200 but also you know I cheat because I know Alan leit. 1:57:05.320 --> 1:57:09.240 So literally, he's just give me all this, James Brown 1:57:09.320 --> 1:57:09.520 over it. 1:57:09.680 --> 1:57:14.120 Just do you got Champ? You know Champs? I have 1:57:14.240 --> 1:57:19.800 that on the album. I don't have a Atlantic Records, No, 1:57:23.160 --> 1:57:29.840 Steven still man, we are all very very disappointed. Man. 1:57:31.480 --> 1:57:31.880 I learned. 1:57:32.000 --> 1:57:34.000 I learned that a mind has never been polluted by 1:57:34.040 --> 1:57:37.640 weed is a powerful thing. And this is your memory 1:57:37.760 --> 1:57:41.120 is like fucking remarkable. I hope there's no book biz. 1:57:41.960 --> 1:57:44.520 They want me to do a book, but what was wrong? 1:57:44.760 --> 1:57:47.760 I'm still singing, so you know I ain't no Unsung yet. 1:57:48.000 --> 1:57:50.440 You gotta do it, Unsung, write a book. People a 1:57:50.480 --> 1:57:52.240 lot Russell write books like every two years. 1:57:52.400 --> 1:57:57.400 So one thing, go ahead, question you got this back? 1:57:57.520 --> 1:58:01.720 Then if you get money and you go to a 1:58:01.800 --> 1:58:04.320 record shop and you get him, you get him A fifty. 1:58:04.760 --> 1:58:07.880 Didn't let you look through anything. Take you to the back, 1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:11.320 They take you, take you to go underneath. Okay, what 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:15.320 your way? I knew voalshively, you know that right fucking real? Yes, 1:58:15.560 --> 1:58:17.040 he's let me go in the basement, go to his 1:58:17.160 --> 1:58:17.920 house and everything. 1:58:18.120 --> 1:58:21.840 I would never get past the letter d Voal Shively 1:58:22.000 --> 1:58:23.520 is the guy that was like mean to us, and 1:58:23.640 --> 1:58:25.280 then he found out who my dad was. 1:58:25.360 --> 1:58:28.960 It was like, welcome to my store, offer me a job. 1:58:29.280 --> 1:58:33.440 Now I don't want it, all right, So all right, 1:58:33.480 --> 1:58:35.800 this is what I'm proposing, and this is what you 1:58:35.880 --> 1:58:37.520 don't know biz. All right. 1:58:37.680 --> 1:58:41.880 So I'll say for the last four months, me and 1:58:42.080 --> 1:58:47.120 practically all the heavyweights and hip hop production, from Pete 1:58:47.160 --> 1:58:53.240 to Primo to j Cole to Ninth Wonder to just Blaze. 1:58:52.920 --> 1:58:55.880 To uh forgetting people. 1:58:57.560 --> 1:59:03.800 Not nots to Fortain. Yeah, Harrison, J Harrison is, stro Elliott, everyone, 1:59:03.920 --> 1:59:08.000 Jeremy Ellis, Everybody's in this. This tip Swiss beats. 1:59:08.640 --> 1:59:08.960 All right. 1:59:09.080 --> 1:59:13.760 So I started a thread and we dubbed ourselves. We're 1:59:13.840 --> 1:59:17.200 like a brotherhood of nineteen cats, and we dubbed ourselves. 1:59:17.640 --> 1:59:25.800 Asked Vaughan got here, No, literally the the yes, besides 1:59:26.120 --> 1:59:30.080 we can catch it. Yes, yes, Peanut butter Wolf is 1:59:30.120 --> 1:59:32.640 talking right now. Literally, I'm on with like all twenty 1:59:32.720 --> 1:59:36.640 two of them with asked one. Wait, okay, he says, 1:59:37.160 --> 1:59:41.480 oh wow, okay, this is the last question I'm gonna 1:59:41.480 --> 1:59:48.320 ask you. They I'm proposing a special BIZ episode of 1:59:48.760 --> 1:59:54.800 of Ofquest Love Supreme, in which if I can coordinate 1:59:55.320 --> 1:59:58.560 the twelve ask one East Coast members to do the 1:59:58.640 --> 2:00:04.200 show where they literally lee grill Biz on story because 2:00:04.240 --> 2:00:06.320 they're still like and I'm telling him like yo, he 2:00:06.440 --> 2:00:09.560 really does as it's forty five. Okay, here's your final story. 2:00:09.640 --> 2:00:09.880 Biz. 2:00:11.280 --> 2:00:13.360 You have to ask business from Rashott Smith. 2:00:22.760 --> 2:00:24.640 I know the story. I know this story. Wait, let 2:00:24.720 --> 2:00:26.840 me read it. Let me read you gotta actually read 2:00:26.880 --> 2:00:27.280 it though. 2:00:27.280 --> 2:00:31.760 Yes, mother, I'm my own goddamn radio self. 2:00:32.120 --> 2:00:32.440 All right. 2:00:33.840 --> 2:00:36.680 Rushott Smith says, you have to ask Biz about the 2:00:36.800 --> 2:00:42.080 luth Evanrels Madison Square Garden story on now he got 2:00:42.160 --> 2:00:45.840 a beat from Luthor to come to beatbox for on 2:00:46.080 --> 2:00:48.120 stage at the garden. True or false? 2:00:48.560 --> 2:00:53.480 True? That was when I had just a front out 2:00:55.360 --> 2:01:00.960 and we was both represented by BURTA. Dell Ah So 2:01:01.120 --> 2:01:06.000 Burke Padell was the one that asked me, you go 2:01:06.160 --> 2:01:07.800 get up there. You know, if you get up there 2:01:07.840 --> 2:01:09.760 with Luther, you know you get some of his fans 2:01:09.840 --> 2:01:11.920 and this and that. Would you do? 2:01:12.120 --> 2:01:13.560 Did you I do something together? 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:24.680 I just did Ladies and Jent. Look that up. 2:01:24.760 --> 2:01:27.120 If you I can't look at it, I mean I'm 2:01:27.160 --> 2:01:28.760 saying look and see if that be. 2:01:29.080 --> 2:01:33.640 And Luther van jos was both represented by Burke Padell 2:01:35.320 --> 2:01:38.360 I or you looking at it right now? Now he 2:01:38.480 --> 2:01:39.640 was in accounting right, Bert was. 2:01:43.120 --> 2:01:48.720 Okay, but if I can organize and ask one session. 2:01:48.720 --> 2:01:49.960 Yeah, take them all on. 2:01:52.160 --> 2:01:53.520 I want to see you pull off this. 2:01:53.880 --> 2:01:55.680 I got this, got get him on video statings you 2:01:55.720 --> 2:01:58.720 can put in the group. I'll take all y'all motherfuckers. 2:01:59.320 --> 2:02:00.720 And I put them on. I get in the group. 2:02:00.760 --> 2:02:00.920 Two. 2:02:02.160 --> 2:02:04.400 Oh my god, you ain't got to work to he's 2:02:04.400 --> 2:02:05.600 got to work to get in the group. 2:02:06.200 --> 2:02:08.880 I mean, you can only hold twenty two people, and 2:02:09.120 --> 2:02:17.560 we accidentally had to boot Diplot off the supposedly anyway, 2:02:17.640 --> 2:02:20.400 all right, so I have you a video right now. 2:02:21.560 --> 2:02:23.920 So you're saying to the Askan crew that they're allowed 2:02:23.920 --> 2:02:24.880 to come and grill you. 2:02:25.280 --> 2:02:28.680 Whenever you want to. I'm gonna grow you up back too. 2:02:32.080 --> 2:02:37.080 Don't leave your feelings at the door. I'll tell you 2:02:37.240 --> 2:02:42.760 got a hip hop starter. So Rush, I got stories 2:02:42.800 --> 2:02:46.560 about him too, And I remember when Q Tip used 2:02:46.560 --> 2:02:48.720 to be in high school at Mary Bertram, I know 2:02:48.880 --> 2:02:49.200 all that. 2:02:49.400 --> 2:02:49.760 All right. 2:02:50.800 --> 2:02:52.680 Anyway, it's gonna be like the Battle of Oil. See 2:02:53.880 --> 2:02:55.480 this is all ladies and gentlemen. 2:02:55.600 --> 2:03:01.520 This is a very special, special special special episode of 2:03:01.960 --> 2:03:05.960 Business Markey's Quest Love Supreme only on vandor on behalf 2:03:06.000 --> 2:03:10.800 of Sugar Steve and uh Fan Tigelow and Boss Bill. 2:03:11.560 --> 2:03:14.080 And You're going to have business on Sesame Street one day. 2:03:14.200 --> 2:03:18.080 Yeah, yeah, he's He's the new Joe Roposo right there. 2:03:18.520 --> 2:03:20.640 Yes, I said the street. 2:03:22.000 --> 2:03:24.480 This is part of our new idea. Five people, I did. 2:03:24.560 --> 2:03:25.320 This is all right? 2:03:25.440 --> 2:03:31.560 All right, business down and uh, I'm Phil, I'm I'm sorry. 2:03:31.760 --> 2:03:33.400 Well you're paid, Yeah, well paid. 2:03:35.560 --> 2:03:39.600 And Martin he did. Yes, you did awesome. 2:03:39.640 --> 2:03:43.960 Bus fantastic, thank you, thank you for your time. 2:03:45.720 --> 2:03:46.680 Yes, you did awesome. 2:03:46.760 --> 2:03:49.480 And just to watch us away from our sins off 2:03:49.520 --> 2:03:55.400 this dude one, I wait, thank you man, I appreciate you, 2:03:55.840 --> 2:03:56.200 all right. 2:04:00.040 --> 2:04:03.680 What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 2:04:03.720 --> 2:04:06.480 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 2:04:09.600 --> 2:04:14.000 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 2:04:14.480 --> 2:04:16.160 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.