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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, It's Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. June
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Speaker 2: Questlove Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible
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Speaker 2: This week we are focusing on some of the great
Speaker 2: hip hop conversations that ULS catalog. Our leader Questlove has
Speaker 2: a new book out called hip Hop Is History. Check
Speaker 2: it out at questlove dot com. This is a conversation
Speaker 2: with the late Bizmarquis that first aired in the summer
Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen. The Biz may he rest in peace
Speaker 2: or bring a brand of authentic but funny hip hop
Speaker 2: to so many audiences?
Speaker 3: Supreme Supremo role called Suprema sun So Supreme role called
Speaker 3: Supreme Supreme role called Supreme Supreme Roll.
Speaker 4: So Bob Jeames Bellis, Marty gri Biz claims the song
Speaker 4: yeah Survey sas.
Speaker 5: Yeah Sure, Supreme role called Supreme.
Speaker 4: So Supreme role, Call my name is Fante.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to bawl, Yeah, because my house is
Speaker 6: the average square.
Speaker 5: Mall Supreme Supreme role called Suprema So Supreme role called.
Speaker 7: My name is Sugar with bizmar Key. Yeah, and this
Speaker 7: is roll call. Yeah, nobody beats me.
Speaker 5: Supreme Upprema, roll called Suprema Son Son Supremo.
Speaker 8: Roll called Bill.
Speaker 9: Yeah, rahaps to do yea shout out to bismarcky. Yeah,
Speaker 9: men in black two roll call Suprema.
Speaker 5: Son Supremo, roll call Suprema Son Supremo roll loost Bill.
Speaker 10: I am yeah, not a Republican. I just wanted to say, yeah,
Speaker 10: fuck GILBERTL.
Speaker 6: Sullivan Supreme roll call, Suprema So Supreme roll call.
Speaker 11: It's slight.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah about this paper. Yeah, y'all better watch out. Yeah,
Speaker 11: y'all get them.
Speaker 8: Supreme landing on time, So Supreme. There was turbulus in
Speaker 8: the middle.
Speaker 4: Vers Son Supremo roll called.
Speaker 8: I am the Amazon. Yeah, I'm with the Sugars. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And what I do, Yeah, I'm picking good.
Speaker 5: Supremo roll Supremo, Supreme Suprema Supremo, roll call, Suprema Supremo
Speaker 5: roll call.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Quest
Speaker 4: Love Supreme only on Pandora. I am Quest Love with
Speaker 4: me Team Supreme. We got a fun tig alow in
Speaker 4: the place. Uh, tik tig. I gotta go old school
Speaker 4: with the names. What with the double names? Oh yeah, Ti, Yeah,
Speaker 4: take Ti.
Speaker 8: And then that's really cool cool. We gotta unpaid Bill.
Speaker 4: How you doing, man, I'm great, You're great, fucking excited,
Speaker 4: you're fucking excited. Markey is here, of course, of course
Speaker 4: he is, Sugar Steve. You're doing better.
Speaker 8: I'm great, man, I'm great. How great are you? Average?
Speaker 7: Grade medium?
Speaker 8: Medium, extra medium?
Speaker 4: And we got Boss Bill in the place to be
Speaker 4: How you doing? And uh liyah ak Margaret and our
Speaker 4: guest today, ladies and gentlemen, is probably probably next to
Speaker 4: ll cool J, one of the timeless figures in hip
Speaker 4: hop culture that has transcended decades.
Speaker 8: Uh. It's never going.
Speaker 4: Stale always uh, you know, around doing stuff and it's
Speaker 4: I mean, you can call him a pioneer, you can
Speaker 4: call him an innovator, you can call him a pop
Speaker 4: culture collector, historian. Uh, you could call him everything. But
Speaker 4: most importantly, you got a bollicle the diabolical. Welcome to
Speaker 4: Chluss loves abree Yeah.
Speaker 8: Crash, what's up? What's up with you? Know?
Speaker 12: Glad, I'm glad I'm here with you.
Speaker 4: So Biz, I don't ever recall you doing an in
Speaker 4: depth interview ever. Like it's like we all know you,
Speaker 4: You're ubiquitous, You're everywhere, but I don't know if we
Speaker 4: really know your story. I'm into the to the level
Speaker 4: that we should know it. But I do know that
Speaker 4: everyone that speaks of you that I work with, and
Speaker 4: I've worked with, everyone has the highest level of respect
Speaker 4: for your you know, your your contribution and and and
Speaker 4: all your knowledge of hip hop. So thank you for
Speaker 4: for doing the show with us today.
Speaker 8: Oh come on, you know I couldn't let it turn
Speaker 8: it down? All right?
Speaker 4: So before we start your story, we we got to
Speaker 4: get to the elephant in the room. Just admitted business.
Speaker 4: There is no bellis mind there?
Speaker 8: Wait?
Speaker 12: Business?
Speaker 8: Can I explain?
Speaker 4: Wait before we like, do you know?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 4: See I always have to ask like you first and
Speaker 4: then I know the public now, but wait, let me explain,
Speaker 4: Let me explain the premise of it. This has inadvertently
Speaker 4: created uh pop culture collectors in all of us. I'll
Speaker 4: say that the very first person that I've ever heard
Speaker 4: of buying out factories, uh, buying additional houses for their
Speaker 4: collections of be it toys, dolls, board games, uh, clothes,
Speaker 4: old videotapes, old movies, records, forty fives old machine like
Speaker 4: the basically what my house is now, like about the
Speaker 4: black version of the forty year old version, all your crap, yes,
Speaker 4: for yes, all the stuff that we've had, the rummings
Speaker 4: through business, business.
Speaker 7: To the reason that you're the reason he has eighteen
Speaker 7: storage units right now pretty much.
Speaker 4: But I mean there's a bunch of us.
Speaker 8: But the thing is is that it.
Speaker 4: Starts with it starts with Biz claiming that there's a
Speaker 4: record out there that we all turned the earth over
Speaker 4: for it and never seem to find, and only Bizz
Speaker 4: quote has it.
Speaker 8: So yes, now, everyone, you record, you're recorder. You recorded records,
Speaker 8: right of course, Now when you went to master it.
Speaker 8: Have you ever had a record that was mastered that
Speaker 8: you didn't want because it was it was the wrong
Speaker 8: sound or something wasn't right.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I've you know what, Yes, Okay, there's an
Speaker 4: original version of Michael Jackson's Off the Wall that does
Speaker 4: not have the handclaps and rock with you that I
Speaker 4: later found out that.
Speaker 8: Was now they got to make the music the same way. Okay,
Speaker 8: where it's no it's no bells, it's just the drums.
Speaker 4: With the shakers. Okay, we scrapped that.
Speaker 8: There was only there was only thirty five. There was
Speaker 8: only thirty five to fifty put out of make the music.
Speaker 8: It was EP. Okay, some people got it. But the
Speaker 8: thing is, I'm trying to tell you the original EP,
Speaker 8: the original EP with the black and white Coca Cola.
Speaker 8: But there's two different ones. Okay, there's one with the
Speaker 8: with the Isaac Hay's and there's one that's don't got
Speaker 8: the Isaac case and I got Isaac Hays in the
Speaker 8: middle with with the with the hook, the version that's
Speaker 8: on the record now with the Madi Grad. I don't
Speaker 8: know where I got it from. I'm not a snitch.
Speaker 4: It's thirty years later.
Speaker 8: You know you're not no no, no, no no on
Speaker 8: your record dealer is listen to me? Listen what was saying? Yes?
Speaker 12: So the MAIGHTI Grad? Since everybody know Madi.
Speaker 8: Grad a live record, it is, yes, Maighty Guard is
Speaker 8: a live record. You can hear the people talk play
Speaker 8: on Mighty gra mad Gud you can hear the people
Speaker 8: talking in the background.
Speaker 4: Well that I assume asking Bob James that was the
Speaker 4: sound effects of a bunch of animals.
Speaker 8: And back in the day, Bob James and all of them,
Speaker 8: I was. It was finally when I place. Wait, a
Speaker 8: lot of musicians back then, don't remember. You're gonna tell
Speaker 8: me you get right, you get splotched right now. He
Speaker 8: couldnt sing Family of Fair the way he's singing you right,
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 12: Listen to me. I don't know how many of them out.
Speaker 8: Listen to me. I don't know how many of them
Speaker 8: are out. But when I got it, I had it
Speaker 8: since the nineties. It's like an acetate, okay, okay, So
Speaker 8: when I got it and I battled this dude name
Speaker 8: top Speed in Indianapolis. No top Speed, you know, Okay,
Speaker 8: when I put it on, then everybody started talking about it.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, all right, just to let just let.
Speaker 8: Mark mark redon marg.
Speaker 4: I feel like I had twelve rounds, I know.
Speaker 8: And there's twelve Like a lot of people don't think
Speaker 8: there's twelve inches of Mardi Gras one sided. They do,
Speaker 8: got Mardi Gras twelve inches real on ct I one sided.
Speaker 8: My man Supreme the Rock from Seattle got him. I
Speaker 8: got him, A couple of us got him. I'm just
Speaker 8: letting you know, all right.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play you. You would know it as the
Speaker 4: Peter Piper bells, one of the things you do so basically.
Speaker 4: Now Biz claims he has a version of Marti Grau
Speaker 4: without the bells and it just the drums, thus sending
Speaker 4: us into a fineinancial tail spin. I put off Brodick. No,
Speaker 4: it's for real, like I joke about it. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's when when you get in this industry, football players,
Speaker 4: sports people, the first the first person besides yourself that
Speaker 4: you treat for is your mama. In my never ending
Speaker 4: bid to find this record and acquiring all the other records,
Speaker 4: well I can't find well I'll take these.
Speaker 8: I'll take these. I'll take these. I'll take one record.
Speaker 4: I know I put off by my mama's house, but
Speaker 4: to search.
Speaker 8: It's one record. I'm a person that has one of
Speaker 8: the most extensive record collections that you ever will see.
Speaker 8: I know how many records you got that you never
Speaker 8: seen people with?
Speaker 4: Probably got fourteen.
Speaker 12: No, you got no, no, no.
Speaker 8: I've talked about how many records that you bought that
Speaker 8: you never seen nobody else with.
Speaker 4: I know for a fact that I have fourteen one
Speaker 4: of ones, like something that no one else will have
Speaker 4: but me.
Speaker 8: I got like at least I know you got a
Speaker 8: I got like at least two three thousand. I never
Speaker 8: seen nobody. I never see nobody puss. Right, that's like
Speaker 8: when people when I came out at the park with
Speaker 8: my SL seven hundred.
Speaker 4: Yes I'm from I got you. Look.
Speaker 12: Look as soon as.
Speaker 8: I've been you've been saying, father, I'm sighting with them.
Speaker 8: These are old man I'm fighting with Do you want
Speaker 8: me to do? I can't make them do something.
Speaker 7: It sounds like he has he said as it sounds
Speaker 7: like it's a test pressing.
Speaker 8: What happened is it's a mistake. You know how if
Speaker 8: you listening something and something you don't hear, and then
Speaker 8: you go back and do it over. Come on, you know,
Speaker 8: come on, I have no I have no reason to
Speaker 8: lie about one record.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, well, since we're talking about it, we
Speaker 4: might as well do a special dish and not business. Yes,
Speaker 4: the one time only a busy guess. So since you
Speaker 4: the record master, we do this thing where we have
Speaker 4: producers on the show identify songs now, normally with Tip
Speaker 4: and Primo and I've done Snares or just but with you,
Speaker 4: I'm we're doing the doctorate degree course on this. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give you not even half a second, Biz, not
Speaker 4: even not even half a second. Looks it's like this
Speaker 4: is easy, and I'm doing stabs. I'm not even doing
Speaker 4: Snares kicks or high hats. I'm doing stabs.
Speaker 8: Biz.
Speaker 4: What is the song?
Speaker 8: Oh that's that's some engine number nine.
Speaker 4: I'll play it again. Nope, yes, yeah, uh.
Speaker 8: I hear that the the the bongos. I can't I
Speaker 8: know the record? I just.
Speaker 4: All right, oh outside even count.
Speaker 8: First of all, all the DJs used to play play
Speaker 8: south Side Movement on forty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll get it plus record and plus give me
Speaker 4: give me a story about the recordse I know you
Speaker 4: have some weird story about well.
Speaker 8: First of all, back in eighty one or eighty, they
Speaker 8: used to have a record store called Downstairs Records. Yes,
Speaker 8: I've heard it on forty second Street and eighth downstairs
Speaker 8: sn Roy l Roy used to be. It used to
Speaker 8: be like a thing. It used to be thing right here,
Speaker 8: He used to stand on aside the records on the wall.
Speaker 8: That album went for like ten dollars just.
Speaker 4: The single loan or know the hour the album that
Speaker 4: it came from, and it said moving on it. Okay,
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, Wait what do you mean still
Speaker 4: there Steve record in the subway?
Speaker 8: Right? Yeah, that's not it's not it's a different one.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, that was after a while, it moved
Speaker 8: up it moved upstairs, then it moved to forty third Street.
Speaker 4: All right, here's your second one. Biz mm hmmm, whoa
Speaker 4: mm hmmm.
Speaker 8: I can't do it. That's too short. M hm. So
Speaker 8: when it's all done, all right, come on, man, come on,
Speaker 8: let's breakthrough truck Turner and any breakthrough stories breakthrough. First
Speaker 8: time I heard breakthrough was Vambada and Jazzie Jay was
Speaker 8: cutting it in the park where Uh Bronx Bronx River
Speaker 8: Bronx River a Zoo Nation Anniversary.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is your third record.
Speaker 8: Oh I know what that is.
Speaker 4: I know what it is.
Speaker 8: I know the record. I can't think of it right now,
Speaker 8: I know the record?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 8: Uh bad White, no, no, no, maybe that's how bouncing
Speaker 8: Bouncy La Stutch yourself off out a details of.
Speaker 12: The first time I got the first first time I got.
Speaker 8: The Bouncy Bouncy Lady albums was from King Carroll, who
Speaker 8: was a record store because downstairs, I mean, uh Flash
Speaker 8: was cutting it one time and it sold out a downstairs,
Speaker 8: so I had to go down the street to King
Speaker 8: Carroll on forty third, I mean forty second between seventh
Speaker 8: and six.
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming that all the records that I initially
Speaker 4: first acquired on the Ultimate Beats and Breaks compilations you
Speaker 4: got firsthand because you were first generation witnessing Flashing on. Okay, cool,
Speaker 4: all right, here's your fourth record, Come.
Speaker 8: On, that's Get Out of My Life woman, Lee Dors.
Speaker 4: Were you the first to use that?
Speaker 8: Day?
Speaker 12: Last Soul used their first, but they used the fast.
Speaker 8: And I know you bad. That's right, that's right, that's right,
Speaker 8: that's right.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they used it for the baseball joint on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but just a freak album.
Speaker 4: That album. All right, here's your last record, buz in
Speaker 4: Round one.
Speaker 8: Of business.
Speaker 4: You guessed it sounds like a Q tip record. I'll
Speaker 4: I'll do a little pre roll for you. This is
Speaker 4: so easy. I'm picking the easiest breaks of all time.
Speaker 4: Oh wow wow, okay, yeah, Superman Love everybody text.
Speaker 8: But the thing is I never looked at Superman Love
Speaker 8: as a break really, so it was not. The intro
Speaker 8: was never rhymed over, and.
Speaker 4: That wasn't a break.
Speaker 8: Really, breaks is like scratching.
Speaker 4: I can't so stuff between one hundred and ten bpms
Speaker 4: and faster, you.
Speaker 8: Know, I mean, I don't know about the speed. I'm
Speaker 8: just saying. Records that you know.
Speaker 4: Had naked drums, right, naked drums.
Speaker 8: You had to have like mighty guad nautilists, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean. Pe Life you got that right, Yeah,
Speaker 8: of course I have that.
Speaker 4: That was around one of BIZ and we'll come with
Speaker 4: a part two later. All right, So, Biz, where were
Speaker 4: you born?
Speaker 8: I was born in Harlem and Colonial Projects.
Speaker 4: You're from Harlem.
Speaker 8: Then I moved away when I was ten to Long
Speaker 8: Island and I grew up in Long Island, I was,
Speaker 8: I mean, I lived in patriog You know, so you
Speaker 8: because I've heard Jersey and her Brooklyn, Jersey, I feel.
Speaker 4: Like you lived everywhere.
Speaker 8: No, I moved to Jersey after records. I stayed with
Speaker 8: my sister a little in Brooklyn in like eighty three,
Speaker 8: and then eighty four is when I met Marley and them. Okay,
Speaker 8: and then.
Speaker 4: So what I mean, did you aspire to be a
Speaker 4: DJ at first?
Speaker 8: Or like?
Speaker 4: What was I told I had to make records? I
Speaker 4: got bored with rap to why records? Like you had
Speaker 4: a father that was a collector?
Speaker 8: Or?
Speaker 4: You like, how did you use to.
Speaker 8: Play with Cold Traine? And then back in the day, Wow,
Speaker 8: you're a jazz kid. Life used to play. My pops
Speaker 8: used to play with you know, back in the back
Speaker 8: in the sixties and fifties. So but I know, I'm
Speaker 8: just a I was just a collector. I started collecting.
Speaker 8: My first forty five was Ben Okay. So then when
Speaker 8: when hip hop came out? Like my man when I
Speaker 8: was in Long Island in seventy eight, my man bought
Speaker 8: an El Brother's tape out, you know, grant with a theater.
Speaker 8: So I got bit by the bug after that. What's
Speaker 8: your dad's name? So Royal Hall. Yeah, he played saxophone.
Speaker 4: Steve's resident jazz Fetish.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you another person father that used to
Speaker 8: play in the clubs jazz and stuff, Martin Sheen.
Speaker 4: V Martin she President, Martin she.
Speaker 8: Wow. Back in the day, I mean, that's my postuma,
Speaker 8: because back then you could go to them things in
Speaker 8: Manhattan little clubs and playing uh you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: his father or him him? Oh wow, oh wow, that's
Speaker 8: about here, about in his early thousands right now.
Speaker 4: No, but wow, I never knew what did he play?
Speaker 8: He said. No, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 4: He told me. Oh, you don't know what instrument he played, piano.
Speaker 8: I just know he played or he was dead anyway
Speaker 8: from my mom. Don't lie about that. I'm gonna bring
Speaker 8: his name up.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's rather random to bring
Speaker 4: it up. So it look everything you tell me, I'm
Speaker 4: taking for your word. Biz, I'm just saying I just
Speaker 4: never found the money record. But I digress anyway.
Speaker 8: So I never found turntables either.
Speaker 10: We've seen the evidence of the turntables. It could be
Speaker 10: photoshop though true the turn.
Speaker 4: Oh so Biz has a pair of techniques that only
Speaker 4: play forty fives? Oh wow, yeah, I mean ill, but
Speaker 4: no one else can get them. But Biz, why they wait?
Speaker 4: Why is that I'm skipping all over your timeline? Why
Speaker 4: do you have these? First of all, what happened when
Speaker 4: the techniques make these?
Speaker 8: Yeah, technique, what happened was back in the day before,
Speaker 8: like eighty eight.
Speaker 4: You've had these since?
Speaker 8: Oh no, I'm telling your story. Back in the day before.
Speaker 8: They were going to put them out like in the eighties,
Speaker 8: but then the CD boom came and everything, so they
Speaker 8: scrapped them.
Speaker 4: And what these are just in the factory.
Speaker 8: Like So when I went out to Japan to do
Speaker 8: Yo Gabba Gabba, damn, I started having you got somebody
Speaker 8: great grandson and then your gaba gap is the kids.
Speaker 8: I'm hanging with them. So hey, they brought me to
Speaker 8: the factory and I saw so many turntables that was incredible. Wow.
Speaker 8: So I saw them and they was in the corner.
Speaker 8: So I made a lot of trades for that.
Speaker 4: All right, Before I go back to your timeline, I
Speaker 4: might as well go there, biz. Okay, your house of
Speaker 4: records are on fire.
Speaker 8: Knock on the wood your.
Speaker 4: House of okay, well, knock on wood whatever. Your house
Speaker 4: of records are on fire. Okay, what five records are
Speaker 4: you going to save?
Speaker 8: I mean one of them is bartigraphs.
Speaker 4: Which five records from your burning house on fire? Are
Speaker 4: you going to save?
Speaker 8: My devotion live forty five to who? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wait, there's a forty five of devotion on from Gratitude live, Yeah,
Speaker 4: from Gratitude.
Speaker 12: Tap your hands.
Speaker 4: That's on forty five. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Okay, your house
Speaker 4: is burning. By the way, this is sounds cent of fire,
Speaker 4: burning house on fire.
Speaker 12: My team plays are cool on forty five.
Speaker 4: There's a tea plays cool forty five.
Speaker 8: Are these promo cops? Like? Are they promo copies? Google it?
Speaker 8: You got it right there? Team plays cool.
Speaker 4: I'm looking I'm looking them up.
Speaker 8: I'm looking them up.
Speaker 7: Are these like white label promo promo copies or regular?
Speaker 8: I got one? That is is an EP? It's on
Speaker 8: Tape Car Records.
Speaker 4: Tape Car Records, look it up EP. I gonna be
Speaker 4: lit this episode.
Speaker 12: About when when?
Speaker 8: When he pull it up, I want I want to
Speaker 8: apology ahead, dude, go ahead, buzz I'm believing that.
Speaker 10: Wait wait wait wait, here's he plays a cool forty
Speaker 10: five from the UK. Oh no, from Turkey.
Speaker 9: Excuse me, I tell you your Turkey there too, so
Speaker 9: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh I gotta find that's your fire.
Speaker 8: That's my fire?
Speaker 12: Well all right, the rest gonna burn.
Speaker 4: Business as many records you've got.
Speaker 8: Like, I can't it's too plays Muhammad. I leave forty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, I've seen, Yes, I've seen that one. Yes, I've
Speaker 4: seen that.
Speaker 12: Because it's signed.
Speaker 8: Uh, I can't think of that now. Damn. There's too
Speaker 8: many records.
Speaker 7: You're like, you're like forty fives more than more than LPs.
Speaker 8: Your forty fives got the reason I started DJing with
Speaker 8: forty fivest all these records, milk, they.
Speaker 4: Had its time. What about your other artifacts?
Speaker 12: What you didn't say that, you just said record.
Speaker 4: So now, Biz, your house, your your artifacts house is burning.
Speaker 8: What are you saving? I'm taking my two pair of
Speaker 8: SL seven hundreds, one with the curve on, one with
Speaker 8: the straight arm. I'm taking my Flashes beat box that
Speaker 8: he gave me.
Speaker 4: Oh you own a beat box? Yes, yeah, he gave
Speaker 4: that to you.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Fuck, he gave me the name I got it.
Speaker 8: Biz, Can you reveal what that drumming scene is? Biz?
Speaker 4: Look, I want you.
Speaker 12: I can't keep from the world.
Speaker 4: I want you and Pete Rock. But Business, what you
Speaker 4: gotta understand is you've seen and this is the fire
Speaker 4: still burning.
Speaker 12: But you want to how you want to know?
Speaker 8: How you want to stop me from getting my stuff?
Speaker 8: As you got the fire burning, I'm setting the fire.
Speaker 4: And to help you save it at the same time.
Speaker 8: Biz.
Speaker 4: But wait, this is what I'm saying now. I can
Speaker 4: see back in eight boards. I can see back in
Speaker 4: eighty eighty nine ninety when it was a breathless race
Speaker 4: to the finish to find some illshit and.
Speaker 8: Then recreate some But this started from eighty one to
Speaker 8: eighty two. So I'm older than y'all, so I know.
Speaker 4: But listen, here's the point now. But we can agree
Speaker 4: that you utilized it to its n degree between the
Speaker 4: late eighties and the mid arts, either by sampling, making records,
Speaker 4: or playing it for us in concert as a DJ.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is you do acknowledge in twenty
Speaker 4: seventeen there is a somewhat of a drought going on
Speaker 4: in hip hop culture as you know it now. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that everything should stay the same, nothing else
Speaker 4: to change. Yes, I love the the you know, the
Speaker 4: evolution of musical culture. But I would almost rather someone
Speaker 4: that's listening to this program search for that flash drum
Speaker 4: machine so they can.
Speaker 8: Go out and make some.
Speaker 4: Why you and Bete are the most secretive people, But
Speaker 4: how are we secret?
Speaker 8: Because we got something we want everybody to have. I
Speaker 8: have a definition of seapop.
Speaker 4: I know what makes you, we know what makes you unique.
Speaker 4: But when you want after, okay.
Speaker 8: We don't tell everybody everything you got, I do. No,
Speaker 8: I don't share.
Speaker 12: I know you.
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about share an m P three F
Speaker 8: take people, I'm not talking about m P three five.
Speaker 4: Look mic f come on, I'm saying, my son, I'm
Speaker 4: staying this record though, I'm staying this.
Speaker 8: For the record.
Speaker 4: I understand that I've taken about I've taken about maybe
Speaker 4: two hundred people in my lifetime, record shopping being shopping, Like,
Speaker 4: why keep it alltimate?
Speaker 8: No? I just took like two thousand, three thousand, all right?
Speaker 8: Just saw, Hey you got.
Speaker 12: A Jogi, Jeff, you gass cash?
Speaker 8: Money?
Speaker 4: Can I ask on flash gags?
Speaker 8: Vaughn? You got your boy?
Speaker 4: Why shot?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: We can't reach it. We can't reach Primo wanted me
Speaker 4: to call him on the show. My man, I know what, son,
Speaker 4: He told me all the questions to ask you.
Speaker 8: But I'm just saying.
Speaker 11: That he just share it with you and then it'll
Speaker 11: be cool for me.
Speaker 8: But I can't tell you. I can't let the world
Speaker 8: some secret.
Speaker 4: You can't just.
Speaker 8: Is it more important? Is it more.
Speaker 4: Important for you to make your unique mark on the world,
Speaker 4: or is it more important that on your dying day,
Speaker 4: your deathbed, that you know that there's ten biz marquis
Speaker 4: like disciples that are.
Speaker 8: Going to die.
Speaker 12: I'm kidding, You're gonna be yours? Could you put it?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 12: Just go back to Harlem's.
Speaker 10: His house burning down, You got him dying, He's still
Speaker 10: not giving it up?
Speaker 8: What alright? Being flashy like Oh, I thought you was
Speaker 8: gonna tell nobody. God, it'd be like that Twilight Zone
Speaker 8: when that lady said I want that dude said to
Speaker 8: the lady, don't never tell nobody or the Devil's gonna coming.
Speaker 13: Maybe did not tell you? Alright, alright, alright? So in Harlem, when.
Speaker 4: Did you first started collect You got your first record
Speaker 4: when you was what the forty five?
Speaker 8: It wasn't it wasn't hip hop. I just got yeah, Ben.
Speaker 4: You gotta start somewhere. So when did the bug hit
Speaker 4: you that yo? I was it DJing first or was
Speaker 4: it mc and or box? All right, now I know you.
Speaker 4: I want you to set the record straight on the
Speaker 4: who was the first cat that you heard? Or are
Speaker 4: you that first cat? Who's the first cat to go
Speaker 4: on record to say, this is the beat box.
Speaker 8: The first, the first one I heard besides me, Yes,
Speaker 8: with Dougie. So doug is the original human beat box. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's the first one I ever.
Speaker 4: So where does Buffy fall in line of Buffy? He
Speaker 4: was just the first to.
Speaker 8: Get to everybody's from different places.
Speaker 12: Buffy was from Brooklyn.
Speaker 8: That's why me and a Dougie and Buffy never sound
Speaker 8: the same. Is from different places, so you would never
Speaker 8: know I'm fromand I'm from Patrick, I'm from like you
Speaker 8: from Philly, I'm from like country Hockens. You don't even
Speaker 8: you don't even count that in Philly's son. I'm like
Speaker 8: from Hershey, Pennsylvania. I don't even count. Keep it real, all.
Speaker 4: Right, but I'm just saying that, you're so. At what
Speaker 4: point did New York start to do this cross cultural
Speaker 4: colonization where a queen's cap We'll go to Brooklyn with
Speaker 4: no beef, and Brooklyn would come to Long Island and
Speaker 4: well the way outside the parents moving.
Speaker 8: Okay, the way I started, uh back in eighty two,
Speaker 8: I was handing out fliers for Mike and Dave, you know,
Speaker 8: Mike and Davis. No, Mike and Dave had they had
Speaker 8: a label, but they had cruise like the Crash Crew. Okay,
Speaker 8: Master Dawn, Boogie Boys, Dougie, Rob Bass, all of us
Speaker 8: started Fat Man's School. All of us started from under them.
Speaker 8: They used to hand We used to you know, you
Speaker 8: want to be on they be an artist? Yeah, they
Speaker 8: do all. They was like one of the big promoters.
Speaker 8: So we had a I used to hand our fliers
Speaker 8: for them, and then I just watched and learned and
Speaker 8: learned and learned.
Speaker 4: So is this where the basis of vapors verse came in?
Speaker 8: To play with the basis of the vapors verse came in?
Speaker 8: Is I was on my block and the kids down
Speaker 8: the block had a crew. I wanted to be in
Speaker 8: the crew, but I always had to be and my
Speaker 8: parents were strict, so I had to be in when
Speaker 8: the light was out. So I always asked cand I
Speaker 8: be down. And since I wasn't the cool cat and
Speaker 8: I wasn't smoking and I wasn't drinking, no, you.
Speaker 4: Can't be down.
Speaker 8: So I went back into the lab and try to
Speaker 8: get his best at best I can, and doing that,
Speaker 8: my time came vapors.
Speaker 4: He made the vapor effects ladies in Jon't so I'm
Speaker 4: noticing the pattern that all musical savants and and and
Speaker 4: icons are either legacy kids of parents that were musicians
Speaker 4: or people that had to follow Richard pryor heavy ass home.
Speaker 8: Parents in the street lights.
Speaker 4: Come on street light, Yeah no, no, no messing around.
Speaker 4: So under under that crew, were you d j M
Speaker 4: first or or you said you were be boxing first?
Speaker 8: Be boxing and rapper like I used to snap on people.
Speaker 8: I was always a funny guy, like shitty Shannati. Your
Speaker 8: nose is snotty. Every time I see you, you're begging somebody.
Speaker 8: But if you're egging, you're begging, and your humming, you're bumming.
Speaker 8: Good God, oldmighty. I hate to see you coming my
Speaker 8: drop moment, Biz, markeyla and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Actually, Premiere just hit me, he said, ask Biz, between
Speaker 4: you and Big Sugar from Gangstar, who would win the
Speaker 4: snapping contest?
Speaker 8: Come on?
Speaker 14: He saw what I did to him, and then Prima
Speaker 14: also followed up that if this says now, you know
Speaker 14: how I do tell Biz he's lying, He asked prem.
Speaker 8: I said, uh, I said something something something something something,
Speaker 8: and then I told him I told uh Big Sugar
Speaker 8: he had a hip hop starter kid.
Speaker 4: On them with being n XL.
Speaker 8: He said that, yeah, any and I was on tour
Speaker 8: with Gangstar Rest in Peace, you know. Yeah, we was
Speaker 8: on tour in Japan and.
Speaker 4: He told he told me that, and then you proceeded
Speaker 4: to stay. He said that the most amazing thing of
Speaker 4: that Japan tour was the fact that you were the
Speaker 4: first cat that he saw ben shopping and then you
Speaker 4: somehow managed to have the promoter paid for all your
Speaker 4: shipment back to the state, and that the shipment was
Speaker 4: actually more than the records. Wait talk about the van now, see,
Speaker 4: and I hate this whole like my generation and when
Speaker 4: cat's be like, hey, what's up o G because I
Speaker 4: feel like we're all all the same hip hop generation.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that, it's like for when all right,
Speaker 4: So for my layer of hip hop, DJ Premier's van
Speaker 4: was like the be all end all van to test
Speaker 4: your music. I'm gonna get to you, bus, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give you the credit. Biz looking at it. This got
Speaker 4: his guns out a ray like give me credit.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 12: I can tell you a story about that though.
Speaker 4: But yes, when Premiere told me, yo, dog, this was
Speaker 4: the first cat I saw.
Speaker 8: MPV, Yes V, Well, can I tell your story. Yes,
Speaker 8: tell me, well, can I put the fireside chat? We
Speaker 8: got yes, And now they had some my boys from uptown.
Speaker 8: And I think y'all saw the movie payd to Full. Yes. Well,
Speaker 8: I used to hang with a Z. I used to
Speaker 8: hang out Poe. I used to hang with rich Porter.
Speaker 8: Rich Porter was one of the flyest dudes known to
Speaker 8: man to this date. Okay, right, So he had an
Speaker 8: MPV first, right, I said, Yo, man, what is that?
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah. So I sat in there with him.
Speaker 8: We talked for about an hour half an hour. The
Speaker 8: next day I went to got two of them. I
Speaker 8: got I got a expensive I had money had you? Okay? Right?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, what'ts an MPV? Oh it's a.
Speaker 8: Multi purpose family? So what I did?
Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that because if I already asked
Speaker 4: that business bill would have been like google it.
Speaker 8: Right. So so I got B one and I got
Speaker 8: cool V a blue one. So but with minds, I
Speaker 8: put like twelve thousand of system in there. You got
Speaker 8: thinking eighty nine. That's a lot out of money.
Speaker 4: Why didn't get a jeep like everyone else?
Speaker 8: I want to get it to be different.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's it's like a cool ass Socca pop then.
Speaker 11: But I had everything in it, but it had an
Speaker 11: error when like cool dudes used to drive.
Speaker 12: I had that casette, everything in it.
Speaker 8: I never heard of a player in a car.
Speaker 4: Google that only because Primo had one that I believe
Speaker 4: this story because yeah.
Speaker 8: So at the time, I mean I used to see
Speaker 8: Primo blah blah blah blah, and he saw my joint.
Speaker 8: He got one, but then he got one with deep
Speaker 8: dish rims. And I say, yore because I had black,
Speaker 8: I had black and chrome BBS's and he had the
Speaker 8: deep dish joints.
Speaker 4: I said, yo. All right. So from be boxing and
Speaker 4: I'm always gonna go back in time, So from be
Speaker 4: boxing too to DJ SO rap next.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I had to make records.
Speaker 4: But when I first heard of you was Deth fresh
Speaker 4: school with Roxanne be boxing.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So how did the whole Philly connection with Pop Art
Speaker 4: Records and Lawrence Goodman and all that happened?
Speaker 8: What happened was Shante made Roxannes revenge. Okay, so Tyrone
Speaker 8: Williams and Marley and them hooked up with Lawrence Goodman
Speaker 8: in them.
Speaker 4: Okay, Lawrence Goodman the maybe yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he was a tough dude. He was tough to
Speaker 12: him and his brother.
Speaker 4: So was there ever a nice guy in the music
Speaker 4: industry like all the black guys if we put Lawrence
Speaker 4: Goodman should knight, Uh, all of them.
Speaker 8: Was cool with me. But I'm just saying. And then
Speaker 8: at the time, I wanted to make a record bad,
Speaker 8: so I got on with Chante and my thing, my fame,
Speaker 8: my claim to fame was the tape from be from
Speaker 8: Roseland with Chin That's yes, it's it's then I got
Speaker 8: Then I made the record with Chante, and then I
Speaker 8: was begging Lawrence Goodman, Yo, I want to make a record.
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: What was the de Chante record? What year was that?
Speaker 8: Eighty five? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So wait they used to play that Roseland tape on
Speaker 4: radio up here or.
Speaker 8: Yeah what mister Magic World World Permit Permire All right?
Speaker 4: Who who is that? A World premire permit? That's him, right,
Speaker 4: that's him? Yeah, Okay, do you have an original copy
Speaker 4: of that world I actually doz Yes, I would love
Speaker 4: to get sharing his Karen, I would.
Speaker 8: Share that with you, but I'm not telling you the
Speaker 8: name of the what I'm finding that drum to see
Speaker 8: one way or another? All right, this way, I'll bring
Speaker 8: it out. I'll let you see it you now, if
Speaker 8: you get the name of it, i'll show you brand.
Speaker 8: I show you it, but I can't tell you in
Speaker 8: your faith and on the air.
Speaker 4: Okay, I get it, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 8: I get it anyway.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so based on that, actually, wait, can I
Speaker 4: play that for a second, the Live routine with Biz
Speaker 4: You got it? This is yes, this is Live Routine
Speaker 4: with Bizmarky by mc shann.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, okay, we're ready to rout you ready shan
Speaker 8: started off and tell them who we are. I want to,
Speaker 8: I want to, I want to. I want to.
Speaker 15: I like to introduce myself, my namic, bizmar keep you
Speaker 15: and that's MC champion and Molly mob and missing a
Speaker 15: medic can't pick spot top and my mac Flordia.
Speaker 8: And my seat am I mac Harmony.
Speaker 4: And Sun Bram. So we're gonna do.
Speaker 8: A litt I like.
Speaker 4: Simple Okay, I have a question, Bis, and you're b
Speaker 4: boxing technique because you're definitely. While while it is most
Speaker 4: b boxes, their kick and their snare both had the
Speaker 4: same range you're like in your mind, are you playing
Speaker 4: a rim shot? Like what like I know for like
Speaker 4: for you going to be.
Speaker 8: Or shot and my bass is different my bas is
Speaker 8: Like so you were hum with the B box huh?
Speaker 4: You you were hum with your your your kick jump
Speaker 4: to give it extra.
Speaker 8: You know how you want to give it that extra
Speaker 8: sound like right, So I was looking at it. I
Speaker 8: was looking at it as an eight a weight, so
Speaker 8: you know how the eight awight got.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is at least with with with
Speaker 4: the human bet Box from the Fat Boys. I always
Speaker 4: heard him and Ducky for that part emulating and Piece
Speaker 4: the President. So when b boxes do they're doing, what
Speaker 4: is the beat? What is the break in your head
Speaker 4: that you're emulating when you're.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to get as close to the record as possible.
Speaker 4: Which record though, what's the record in your head that
Speaker 4: you're emulating?
Speaker 8: Which record? Because you don't do.
Speaker 4: In Piece of President like breaks you do like.
Speaker 8: No, I go, I W.
Speaker 4: I rarely hear you do that break. So I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and plus you're the first bat boxer I know that
Speaker 4: rhymed and be boxed at the same time.
Speaker 12: That was I wanted to be different, So.
Speaker 4: You are different, let me know. So okay, So when
Speaker 4: deaf Resh Crew came out, and this this was an
Speaker 4: era where hip hop was still quasi regional, that in
Speaker 4: school you could bite some ship and claim credit for
Speaker 4: it and live with it. Now, I think I got
Speaker 4: away with that meow mix, so all the white kids
Speaker 4: in school thought I was the ship. Like me, I'm
Speaker 4: mixed like that was always the thing, like And then
Speaker 4: like maybe seven weeks later, then I got busted and
Speaker 4: was like, all right, you know this, it's my key,
Speaker 4: But like, how how you know?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 4: At what point do you do? You transfer to rapping
Speaker 4: and getting with Marley, And.
Speaker 8: At that time I was with them, so I was
Speaker 8: keeping quiet as a rapper. I'm just happy to be down.
Speaker 8: So once they gave me my chance to make a record,
Speaker 8: already already had records written.
Speaker 4: And why does everyone start off as a DJ in
Speaker 4: this crew? Like even Cain started out as a DJ.
Speaker 8: Well, Caine started out as as my partner rhyming because
Speaker 8: I had to show him. I had to show him
Speaker 8: stage presence. I showed him different styles, I showed him
Speaker 8: how to be on stage. You know, if there's something wrong,
Speaker 8: you know, to go to the next rhyme. It's like
Speaker 8: you drumming, right, if you break a stick, you know
Speaker 8: to go to you know, to go to the next
Speaker 8: you know, to go to the next stick? Yeah, how
Speaker 8: to keep it moving?
Speaker 4: So where do you where do you get your experience from?
Speaker 4: Because you know, you grew up in the era where
Speaker 4: I mean now it's even harder because it's like, unless
Speaker 4: your YouTube song has ten million views, it's really hard
Speaker 4: to capture people's attentions us. Your songs just larger than life,
Speaker 4: Whereas back then you had to have actual, genuine talent and.
Speaker 8: You had to be witty.
Speaker 4: Right, So what what was it like going on in
Speaker 4: these states? Like what if you were whack? What would happen?
Speaker 12: No, Hamburger is everything at you?
Speaker 4: I seen why Hamburgers.
Speaker 8: Everything. I'm gonna tell you. It was the time we
Speaker 8: was on tour. I was on tour with Salt Pepper,
Speaker 8: Fat Fat boys. Everybody. They had this lady trying to
Speaker 8: be do another rendition of I Ney Love. Oh no,
Speaker 8: where what territory? We was in North Carolina? Greensboro.
Speaker 4: Wow, they hit away all down?
Speaker 8: Everything changed? Yes and stand up?
Speaker 4: Are you proud of this?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That's by all the times where I grew up.
Speaker 8: I grew up greens Boro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that, but you're.
Speaker 8: Proud of Did you ever throw a hammerger an.
Speaker 4: Them?
Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yep, I'm proud. Wait Queensborough, that's where my family.
Speaker 8: Are you serious, dude?
Speaker 4: Like grandparents have like nineteen brothers and sisters?
Speaker 8: Yes? Oh god? What's your family last?
Speaker 9: Please tell investigate ancestry dot com. Let's get on it.
Speaker 8: Wait.
Speaker 4: Speaking of North Carolina. Uh, In the fifth anniversary of
Speaker 4: the Source magazine, there's a story they're kind of doing,
Speaker 4: like an oral history of like just hip hop tales,
Speaker 4: and I forget who it was, but there was an
Speaker 4: incident in North Carolina where your record collection save somebody
Speaker 4: from y'all getting shot up or something.
Speaker 12: Yeah, not me.
Speaker 4: I was in the room.
Speaker 12: But check this out.
Speaker 4: My man gave my fireside check. Hit the introduction, now
Speaker 4: you ready, yes, hit it?
Speaker 8: Okay? Now, my man Jeff and them there was in
Speaker 8: the car. What happened was hot Dog that used to
Speaker 8: be down with Chuck Rock.
Speaker 4: I'm rocking the round.
Speaker 8: Yes, well, they were trying to talk to these girls.
Speaker 8: They were trying to talk to these girls, and right
Speaker 8: something happened cop blocking I mean something happened. I think
Speaker 8: once one of the dancers hit a girl. The girl,
Speaker 8: the girl's boyfriends came up or something. It was my
Speaker 8: man Jeff right here, Shante. All of them was in
Speaker 8: the car.
Speaker 4: But you know, I mean you.
Speaker 8: DJ so you know when you pack your pack, Yes.
Speaker 12: You know that long case.
Speaker 8: Yes, I had a long case of twelve inches, but
Speaker 8: I packed it them packed in them packed it well,
Speaker 8: you almost can't even take it. Record the luggage.
Speaker 4: If y'all in North Carolina, where's the luggage?
Speaker 8: If all, it's on the bus. We're coming from the show.
Speaker 4: So you have a bus. There's a bus and a car.
Speaker 8: To know, the car is the runner that brings you
Speaker 8: back to the hotel. I see, I see, Okay, So
Speaker 8: they running and they to all these these country dudes
Speaker 8: came out and my records was behind them and it
Speaker 8: was like a station wagon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just didn't go through and all the
Speaker 4: bullets bullets, the record got damaged.
Speaker 8: Something in the way you make me feel with the
Speaker 8: acapella feeling.
Speaker 12: All right, gap band, we yeah trouble.
Speaker 4: Did you just did you just ask me where the
Speaker 4: records are?
Speaker 8: Right? You got exactly you got twelve inches right, No,
Speaker 8: come on, viz. No, they got them with the Chinese
Speaker 8: chicken on the other side.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I've seen those, but those are like reprints.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, there they were reprints, but these was
Speaker 8: the ones that was hard to find. These only downstairs
Speaker 8: had them at the time. Okay, from back in the day.
Speaker 8: They wasn't selling them no more.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that was a fireside chat.
Speaker 8: There wasn't.
Speaker 12: There wasn't breaks and beat joints.
Speaker 16: Okay, all right, the ones on Tough City right, No,
Speaker 16: this is before Tough Sitting.
Speaker 8: Okay. This is when they had They had the big
Speaker 8: beat with the coolest back on the other side, the
Speaker 8: green ones. Then they had the.
Speaker 4: The Bozomigo ones.
Speaker 8: They had the Bozogo records. No, I know they reprints,
Speaker 8: but they ain't the Tough City joints from now, okay,
Speaker 8: these are the ones from eighty one.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I've had a few of those. Okay, I
Speaker 4: get it. Yes, I didn't get it in Pizza President though,
Speaker 4: but I have a few from those labels. So as
Speaker 4: far as your album is concerned, like, how do you
Speaker 4: what's what's the deal with the production? Was it just
Speaker 4: strictly were you handing Marley these records? Did you not
Speaker 4: an operated drum machine?
Speaker 8: Did you? Okay, let me say, in the beginning days
Speaker 8: like to make the music and stuff, Marley was master
Speaker 8: the way he did. Uh Eric Beef president and all that.
Speaker 8: He's by far the best now as I'm learning from him.
Speaker 8: I got a twelve hundred. I think I was like
Speaker 8: one of the first with a twelve hundred. Twelve hundred
Speaker 8: or twelve twelve hundred. He had a twelve damn okay,
Speaker 8: I got a twelve hundred from the dude from it
Speaker 8: or akai one of right, So he first gave it
Speaker 8: to me. So I came over with Marley ouse and
Speaker 8: Marlly said, well what is that? That's what all sudden
Speaker 8: Marley hold my doing for two weeks. He didn't want
Speaker 8: to give it back, so we did. You know, I
Speaker 8: usually I always look look for the crew records. So
Speaker 8: I looked for kine, I looked for breaks. So what
Speaker 8: I did was I hand Marley the records. He hooked
Speaker 8: it up. I told him I want this, this, that.
Speaker 8: Then after a while I started doing production myself. So
Speaker 8: that's why I on the second album, I just did everything.
Speaker 4: And so how did you separate from Marlee, Like, how
Speaker 4: did you feel about the situation with Marley's stepping the
Speaker 4: way and going to Uptown?
Speaker 8: And no, Uptown was before Uptown was before us. But
Speaker 8: I thought in eighty nine, male Marley just did one
Speaker 8: record on that It wasn't there wasn't a separation.
Speaker 4: Which record did he do?
Speaker 8: The uptowns kicking it and stuff? He always did? He
Speaker 8: always did. He did heavy d he did yeah, but
Speaker 8: he always did random stuff to get you know, extra.
Speaker 4: You know, Marley was Marley, so you know he didn't
Speaker 4: he work on the Diabolical album, the second album.
Speaker 8: I wanted to do my own album? Did he?
Speaker 4: So he did nothing on that record?
Speaker 8: Or I wanted to do my own album? He I mean,
Speaker 8: he flew, he flew. Uh, you got what I did
Speaker 8: vocal to the second thing. But I did everything myself.
Speaker 4: So how did you?
Speaker 8: A COOLVI did too? Okay, So how did you fall into.
Speaker 4: That song? I mean, that song is probably the most
Speaker 4: timeless song. That song will never die probably, you know,
Speaker 4: when all said and done, and you know they're going
Speaker 4: to do the Library of Congress, like five most important
Speaker 4: hip hop songs. I'm certain that just a Friend will
Speaker 4: be at least considered in the top ten, like whatever,
Speaker 4: like the What.
Speaker 8: Happened with that record was I was at a house
Speaker 8: party in eighty two, right, so I'm hearing this dude
Speaker 8: what I'm thinking, it's going, we don't name. So I'm
Speaker 8: here to dude. I blew out that record, I said,
Speaker 8: so I couldn't. The dude left the party and I
Speaker 8: never found the name of the record. So I'm looking
Speaker 8: and looking. I never found the record. So I told
Speaker 8: Coovie and Big Daddy Can. I said, Yo, if I
Speaker 8: find this record, boom boom, we on name, Yo, I'm
Speaker 8: going plattinm we on knee along. So I was hanging
Speaker 8: with Theodore. Theodore door brought me to Danny Dan's house.
Speaker 8: So Danny, I'm you know, Danny cutting breaks, Danny Danny
Speaker 8: beat man, he cutting breaks. All of a sudden, he
Speaker 8: throw that record on boom. I grabbed the phone, yelling
Speaker 8: me and that man again. Yeah right, So I drove
Speaker 8: over to his house. Right, I traded him Barbara Streiss
Speaker 8: saying album.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait what.
Speaker 8: A birth of all?
Speaker 12: Do you know the album that Barbara Ston got the break?
Speaker 4: I mean, I know she didn't use there's there's no
Speaker 4: she has a cover used me on seventeen b oh damn. Okay,
Speaker 4: remember the song we worked side Beyonce wanted to cover this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like Beyonce and Barbara streisand we're going to do duet
Speaker 4: with each other of Queen Bee and I produced it.
Speaker 11: But then Real has a song called Queen Bee.
Speaker 8: Yeah, tell me that be.
Speaker 15: There it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she she she did like a few funk joints,
Speaker 4: like seventy three seventy four.
Speaker 12: That was from the Stars Born movie, right, so this
Speaker 12: is what this would happen in the movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I knew that he didn't know that record, right,
Speaker 8: so I went over there and traded him. So you know,
Speaker 8: somebody he gave it a forty five. It's a dollar
Speaker 8: forty five.
Speaker 4: He getting an album?
Speaker 8: Yeah, but stress hand break. You understand hip hop if
Speaker 8: you don't know something, So it would have been cool
Speaker 8: just to were you using it for the purpose of
Speaker 8: sampling it or you just wanted to have that record.
Speaker 8: I wanted that record. I knew I was gonna make
Speaker 8: a record off it, right.
Speaker 4: So you couldn't just borrow the record or YO made
Speaker 4: me get set copy of that record.
Speaker 8: Not in hip hop trade. I did not know that trade. Okay,
Speaker 8: So here's what happened. So a couple of weeks later, I'm,
Speaker 8: you know, because we started to be friends. So I'm
Speaker 8: hanging with him. So he plays Freddy Scott. I said,
Speaker 8: I like that joint. So he said, yo, man, I
Speaker 8: don't got no more. So I gave him two hundred
Speaker 8: dollars for the forty five what but look but.
Speaker 4: He made it back so loved.
Speaker 8: You gotta understand two hundred dollars at that time, I'm
Speaker 8: making because I just came off tour with vapors and
Speaker 8: all that. So I traded him two hundred dollars. That's
Speaker 8: a lot of money. You think you got over right along?
Speaker 8: So is this Dan Dan? We're talking about Dan.
Speaker 4: So when Dan Dan's watching you on TV raps and
Speaker 4: watching the Heineken commercial.
Speaker 8: Then to beat Man, yeah, is he like, yo, those
Speaker 8: are my record?
Speaker 12: Like right?
Speaker 8: So what happened was I went to my mom's house.
Speaker 8: You know, usually after tour, so you know, you go
Speaker 8: home see your family. So I'm sitting in my old
Speaker 8: bed back in the day joint bunk bed joint. Yeah,
Speaker 8: So I'm sitting in there and I just wrote, I
Speaker 8: wrote uh, just a front in like fifteen minutes. So
Speaker 8: when we went to the studio to do it, because
Speaker 8: we're doing the second album, I tried to match up
Speaker 8: the Lee Dorsey and just throw the uh Freddy Scott
Speaker 8: on top. But since the drum your drummer, you know
Speaker 8: how a drummer plays too fast and to do it
Speaker 8: and it wouldn't match. So we tried to put it
Speaker 8: through the pumasan. If anybody remember a pumasan.
Speaker 11: Me huh, first stumped the room.
Speaker 8: Pumasan is something that you put in and you put
Speaker 8: the records in so it could match, and then.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I think something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't know what it was called. Yes, we
Speaker 8: use it. It wouldn't match. So what I did I
Speaker 8: had to do named Shane Faber and he helped me play.
Speaker 8: He played and we I said no. So I sat
Speaker 8: there for like from twelve to eight until he got
Speaker 8: the right piano sound. You know how you're on a
Speaker 8: keyboard and the right and the piano don't sound right.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, because you don't use that
Speaker 4: record in the on just a friend, that's the actual
Speaker 4: piano piano.
Speaker 8: So all of a sudden I'm telling him what to do,
Speaker 8: but he wanted to be jazzy. Don't do what I'm
Speaker 8: telling you what to do. Well, do they know it's up? No, son,
Speaker 8: play it like you hear it? So I'm sitting there,
Speaker 8: well time out to see you.
Speaker 4: That sound familiar? Uh yeah, OK, so you know it's
Speaker 4: the roots.
Speaker 8: Good look he's trying to get. I'm like, no. So
Speaker 8: it's like seven fifty nine in the morning. I feel
Speaker 8: like Gucci bags on them all saiden he found the
Speaker 8: right piano bang.
Speaker 11: Bang boo boom, bang bang bang boom.
Speaker 8: So I did it one pass and then we looped it.
Speaker 8: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: So and now the fireside chat, So who are the
Speaker 4: lyrics about?
Speaker 7: Who's the friend? Is that the guy who sold you
Speaker 7: the record? Because he had what you need?
Speaker 8: The video?
Speaker 12: I'm not uncle preaches.
Speaker 4: Now Tip says that Q Tip says that there was
Speaker 4: an original version of Just a Friend Speed.
Speaker 12: There was the q Tip.
Speaker 8: It was q Tip. All of them was doing Buddy,
Speaker 8: and they were doing Buddy before I came into the
Speaker 8: studio and he he he was there.
Speaker 12: When I sung it to them, they bugged out, but.
Speaker 4: They said the girl you must be on speed? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they were like, yo, like change it and do
Speaker 4: the original. I did the radio okay, okay, it got
Speaker 4: a hair weave, and.
Speaker 8: It is just a wait.
Speaker 4: Before I get to your next record, I gotta ask.
Speaker 4: So your ad libs are probably, I mean, next to
Speaker 4: Lottie Dotty. I don't think I've ever heard sampled a
Speaker 4: more sampled ad lib. Like, what are your general feelings
Speaker 4: when you heard the main ingredient.
Speaker 8: By Pete Rock? But Pete cool anyway, I know?
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, like how do you generally feel? I mean,
Speaker 4: are you from the school of okay, Well, rappers can't
Speaker 4: call out or see other rappers for sampling their joints.
Speaker 8: Me and Pete was cool, so I wasn't thinking about that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So now with alone again naturally tell us this story.
Speaker 8: Man, here's what happened with a timeout.
Speaker 9: Bill gives the now Fireside chatting number seventy five with Bismarcky.
Speaker 8: What happened was, I did the record with a loan again.
Speaker 8: We got a verbal agreement from him, but my record
Speaker 8: company tyroneing them. They I guess the people call back
Speaker 8: up and they cursed Gilbo selvnder them out said we're
Speaker 8: gonna use it anyway. Wait, what why would they do that?
Speaker 8: I don't know, because here's what I used to do.
Speaker 8: When it came to samples. I would make, say, say,
Speaker 8: if the record got thirteen songs, I would make thirty
Speaker 8: nine tapes of every record that I use and we'll
Speaker 8: clear them through regions. At the time, it was we
Speaker 8: got a verbal agreement, but they didn't get up. They
Speaker 8: didn't get a what you call him agreement, so they
Speaker 8: put the record out any.
Speaker 4: Suda that's creaty. Wait, you will clear your own set.
Speaker 8: Like I would. I would set it up and then
Speaker 8: the office clears like I would have to record.
Speaker 4: Remember at the time, it was not CDs, it was cassettes, right,
Speaker 4: And I mean just in general, like, why do you
Speaker 4: think they were so resistant to.
Speaker 8: Because tyre on them cursed him out. Man. I mean,
Speaker 8: I don't want to say what they were doing. But
Speaker 8: you know what was fly T?
Speaker 4: I like, because that's you know, I mean he was.
Speaker 4: He was a key figure in the hip hop Patson
Speaker 4: that you don't pantheon, that you just don't.
Speaker 8: Fly Tie was great in the beginning, okay, great manager, great,
Speaker 8: but when the money and stuff came along, that's when
Speaker 8: what was.
Speaker 4: His connection, Like why did y'all choose him? Was he
Speaker 4: Marley's guy or he was Magic's guy? We all came
Speaker 4: through magic and that that that just reminds me of something.
Speaker 4: BDP would routinely shot you, shout you out.
Speaker 8: I was cool with everybody.
Speaker 4: You were like, what's not favorite nations of Switzerland? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Pope?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 12: So the pope grew up together?
Speaker 8: So so how would.
Speaker 4: How did your crew feel with you being neutral with
Speaker 4: both sides and how do they feel when seeing you?
Speaker 4: And like, yo, we ain't talking about you were just
Speaker 4: talking about magic.
Speaker 8: They wouldn't they wouldn't talk because what happened with the
Speaker 8: magic situation? Care wrest of them had a rec called
Speaker 8: twelve forty one. Success is the word. They came in
Speaker 8: and tried because if you if you get your record
Speaker 8: play on Magic, your record means a lot. At the time,
Speaker 8: he was like the hip hop Frankie Crocker. So they
Speaker 8: came in the studio and they let Christenham let them
Speaker 8: hear the demo of twelve forty one, and the record
Speaker 8: wasn't good, and you know magic in them. You know
Speaker 8: at that time, if anybody know from the eighties, I
Speaker 8: was getting high time you in the studio, and you
Speaker 8: know they laughed them out, so I guess they went.
Speaker 8: They left with the tail between their legs and then
Speaker 8: they went and wrote South.
Speaker 4: Bronx and all that. So the record was I thought
Speaker 4: it was Evans.
Speaker 8: I thought it was success. Success is the word? Can
Speaker 8: we play?
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever heard? I think we played it
Speaker 4: on on the mall.
Speaker 8: Ye we did the wrong It was we did advance.
Speaker 8: Oh we did advance.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because I'm gonna play like three seconds of
Speaker 4: successes the word you can hear what got pre pre beady?
Speaker 8: So there's a pink Foy slamp.
Speaker 12: It's bed nice.
Speaker 8: On start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great radio movie.
Speaker 11: It's about eighty degrees.
Speaker 4: Outside traffic on the g w B. Wait, Charis Woman's
Speaker 4: on some jazzy Jeffers. Yeah, that's got to take the way.
Speaker 4: I love thy pebbles.
Speaker 8: You're going to.
Speaker 4: Wrap my rapt prier put the mare in the train,
Speaker 4: but my raples. What you want to do?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Paris too the wow big.
Speaker 4: Now you know more music about the sock mother Soucker.
Speaker 8: Now I'm not felling magic.
Speaker 12: Get them listening to this ski you up and anything.
Speaker 8: I've held all of them there, So listen to that.
Speaker 8: What would you do quest if you was magic in
Speaker 8: them right there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to go come on, Wow, I feel
Speaker 4: like Chris O's But yeah, the state some flowers for
Speaker 4: this of them, because that's what made him. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: I've had this record for ten years and never heard
Speaker 4: this first time I'm listening to it.
Speaker 8: There's a reason for that.
Speaker 4: I can't hear what I said.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm on a lot of drug medication right now
Speaker 7: from but did I hear Gilligan's Island?
Speaker 8: Just checking?
Speaker 4: But at that time, everybody was doing routines like the
Speaker 4: Fat Boys enforcing these did it to find effect? Do
Speaker 4: you remember that the Fat Boys meet the Force?
Speaker 8: Someome dan O?
Speaker 4: No, that Shi was a hitting Philly Philly.
Speaker 8: Philly gave me my start. I love Philly Dancing on air.
Speaker 8: But that record wasn't the yo.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, wait, the siety the Garrett episode. I
Speaker 4: said that that Facts of Life episode was the first
Speaker 4: thing I recorded on the VCR Biz Marquee on Dancing
Speaker 4: on the Air where Roxannehante was the second thing I
Speaker 4: recorded im doing the bus dance. Yeah, you were you
Speaker 4: were past going going past your recording career, you've also
Speaker 4: managed to you know, do crazy collaborations throughout your time.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was going to say that you co signing and
Speaker 4: sticking with the Beast Boys, especially when most UH people
Speaker 4: were kind of indifferent to the genius that is Paul's
Speaker 4: boutique and check your head and all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was going to say that you co sign from
Speaker 4: Hart and like that that made a difference to them,
Speaker 4: and they always always always spoke of you in the
Speaker 4: highest regard. When I red tour with them, What was that?
Speaker 4: What was that period like when you.
Speaker 8: Were is what happened? I think they sued rustling them
Speaker 8: and won. And I think it was at a time
Speaker 8: when I guess they were trying to at the time
Speaker 8: people try to black ball people, and at the time
Speaker 8: they I looked at them as brothers. I steal records
Speaker 8: from them. They steal from me and you know, you
Speaker 8: know records. When did you first meet them? I met them?
Speaker 8: Remember D from What's the TV? We went over there,
Speaker 8: went over to the studio. I mean, I knew episode.
Speaker 8: That's the first time you met him? No, I think
Speaker 8: I met him a little bit before, but we wasn't
Speaker 8: hanging okay, you know what I mean. You know you
Speaker 8: meet Yoda, so Bull your tribe, Wow and the BC Boys.
Speaker 8: It was me and the BC Boys versus Bull. He
Speaker 8: was playing basketball right.
Speaker 4: Time out Bill hit it and now another episode of
Speaker 4: what had happened was.
Speaker 8: All right, good, now some.
Speaker 4: Big jiga, the real big.
Speaker 8: So we playing. So we're playing, you know, basketball, I'm
Speaker 8: filing people everything like. So after we got done, we're
Speaker 8: playing the Mark Marky Mark, that was down with him.
Speaker 8: We're playing the piano, so Mark keyboard. It's not just
Speaker 8: like you. It's a whole bunch of people thinking right,
Speaker 8: but you're you're the conduit.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 8: So he played records from when I grew up. So
Speaker 8: he's playing like jab was a fool from And I'm
Speaker 8: singing every single record that they playing, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, like a Magan wold Man use a yeah
Speaker 8: so la. So I'm singing blah blah blah. All sudden
Speaker 8: he started playing Benny and the Jets Toe to To.
Speaker 8: I started singing it, y'all. We was there for like hours,
Speaker 8: Do it again, do it again? Then they put it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 12: I got that.
Speaker 4: That's that would be one of my fire five I purchased.
Speaker 4: I purchased twenty copies of that Grand Royal Whitties magazine
Speaker 4: with your floppy record in it. So and then that's
Speaker 4: why I started okay instead of here.
Speaker 8: So so what happened was, you know, after that, we
Speaker 8: just started just playing with stuff and I would just
Speaker 8: come out there, hang with them, stay with them, and
Speaker 8: we just started doing just magical stuff. Like I would
Speaker 8: be at my house and I heard something because I
Speaker 8: used to like Ted Nugent.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I was gonna say, how that tech
Speaker 4: Nugent collaboration happened? Was that separate?
Speaker 12: That was separate?
Speaker 8: I just think Jesus. I called them from the phone, right,
Speaker 8: and I said, Joe, I got something for you. It's
Speaker 8: like y'all getting out of jail or something, right, So
Speaker 8: I got something for you and he said play it.
Speaker 8: So I threw the record on and I said, et
Speaker 8: damn dumb man, y'all. I played that for like eight hours. Yo.
Speaker 8: I said this is for you, Yo, Pichon want to
Speaker 8: give you this, And I said, nah, we come on, man,
Speaker 8: we're cool, come on, don't worry about it. After that,
Speaker 8: we started just doing different things. Do Brad dude do.
Speaker 8: So then they just took me on tour with them.
Speaker 8: So it's like I was like Billy.
Speaker 4: Preston, you were Billy Preston to their fee, so you.
Speaker 8: Know, and then they showed for them. They showed me
Speaker 8: a lot of things. I didn't know how to conduct business,
Speaker 8: how to save for a rainy day, how to whatever,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And plus I used to
Speaker 8: take them sneaky shopping. I took them to a store
Speaker 8: and knew had every old school sneaker, but at the
Speaker 8: time it was great closed down and every procads everything
Speaker 8: was that dollar.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, wow, so their fashion shiit comes.
Speaker 8: We backed up, but we backed up a big truck MPV.
Speaker 8: I used to bring them they I used to bring
Speaker 8: them to jew Man. I used to bring them different spots.
Speaker 8: But then they used to bring me stuff.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 8: We used to it was like brotherhood.
Speaker 6: During the coach tilling years, were you actually making money
Speaker 6: off the records like royalties or was it mainly just
Speaker 6: to a bunny.
Speaker 8: I was making money off the records because I was recording,
Speaker 8: and since I used to record in the house, you
Speaker 8: didn't really have to need that much money to use it.
Speaker 8: As a budget like I would get my budget, said
Speaker 8: my budget to be three or five hundred recording the house,
Speaker 8: I just gotta pay my engineer, pay cooov give him.
Speaker 4: Oh in house, I'm thinking of like a label studio.
Speaker 8: It's in my house.
Speaker 4: So so wait, so you recorded a lot of going
Speaker 4: off in home equipment.
Speaker 12: Going off or like a lot of that was on
Speaker 12: four track.
Speaker 8: Marley did that.
Speaker 4: So for Diabolical every house I was about to say,
Speaker 4: Monthfoot's vocal sounds like you were in a bathroom or nah.
Speaker 4: I could tell like natural but natural reverb sound versus
Speaker 4: process reverb sound. Did you record muffoot in the house?
Speaker 4: What room your kitchen?
Speaker 8: No? Downstairs, the basement? I need a haircut. That was
Speaker 8: at the house too. That was grip Wow, all that
Speaker 8: was done at Coovie's house.
Speaker 4: Biz And who was this engineer?
Speaker 8: Sorry? Doc? But at first at first we had we
Speaker 8: had Shane, but then we went to Paul C. I
Speaker 8: think Paul C.
Speaker 4: Give me Paul C stories.
Speaker 8: Paul C was one of the greatest engineers. You know
Speaker 8: how you're a drama No, let's listen. Yes, but the
Speaker 8: thing is, you know how you listen to He didn't
Speaker 8: listen to the pads. He would do it on the
Speaker 8: numbers and then hit the button and the record to
Speaker 8: be done. Really, he was at the best.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think you worked with I was gonna
Speaker 4: ask you, did you know Paul C? I skipped I
Speaker 4: skipped Latin Cord of Stories and.
Speaker 8: You look no engineered, Kim. I traded Paul C.
Speaker 4: He he worked on your records, Yeah, my second album.
Speaker 8: I did not know that, he he he. I traded
Speaker 8: him Coolest Back Albums sealed.
Speaker 4: There's a funk in corporated sealed copy of Coolest Back
Speaker 4: that's not reissued from.
Speaker 8: Real damn that whenever we if I come, I'll bring
Speaker 8: you one. I'll give you one.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I get that and what else?
Speaker 8: Keep going?
Speaker 12: Let's so I traded him.
Speaker 8: I traded him Coolest Back Albums, right, and he traded
Speaker 8: me Hercules right? Okay?
Speaker 4: Hercules Aaron Nevil's just translation. Steve paul C was the
Speaker 4: U of the mid eighties to late eighties, but the
Speaker 4: cool white engineer that hung around a lot of black dudes.
Speaker 8: Nobody was better than him.
Speaker 7: On a twelve hundred that that collected, he sounds more
Speaker 7: talented than me.
Speaker 8: Actually, there's to be nobody better than him. Rest the
Speaker 8: Beech he was nobody bad. I mean.
Speaker 4: Company passed away. When did he pass away? He passed
Speaker 4: away because I know he's on the back.
Speaker 8: Of what the rhythm hit him. I think that's why
Speaker 8: rest r ip he. I think he passed away in
Speaker 8: eighty nine. I think I was the last one he
Speaker 8: was recording with. Something happened. I mean, I tell you.
Speaker 4: Off, Oh, it's like some be I thought it was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, he didn't have no beef.
Speaker 8: It was just the point of people could looking for somebody.
Speaker 4: Oh, man, ship one place a long time. We work
Speaker 4: at thirty Rock. We're saying safe man, I did not
Speaker 4: know you worked with the great Paul cy.
Speaker 8: Damn.
Speaker 4: So he was just like what was it about his
Speaker 4: production technique? Was the fact that he's shop stuff.
Speaker 8: Put his way. You know how. I think we played
Speaker 8: at the House of Blues. Remember I was I was
Speaker 8: sick at the time we played the house. I lost
Speaker 8: my voice. You remember when you did Mardi Gras. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know how you have the funk? He just had
Speaker 8: that funk. Was he a musician? He was something?
Speaker 12: He was everything son, he was everything.
Speaker 8: So how you do see Paul see you see laws professor,
Speaker 8: Professor Policy Production. That's with Paul mcs paulsy mccasty.
Speaker 4: Incredible son dous he got any other stories like I
Speaker 4: feel like there's.
Speaker 8: Go ahead to ask whatever you want.
Speaker 9: And now tails from the Latin Quarter. We have been
Speaker 9: in the Latin Quarter that everybody comes on the show
Speaker 9: delivers a Latin Quarter story. You might as well, bis
Speaker 9: what's your best one.
Speaker 8: Best one Latin Quarter k r rest Battle of Melle mel.
Speaker 4: Everyone has yeah, from like five different someone talked about people. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no.
Speaker 8: My best story is cash money coming to Latin Quarter
Speaker 8: and and killing it here. I'm gonna tell you what happened.
Speaker 8: Paradise has this Paradise has this Phelas suit on. He
Speaker 8: had I think he wore like seventeen consecutive weeks, and
Speaker 8: he had a big ass silver rope right you know
Speaker 8: when you win. So they got a big ass silver
Speaker 8: rope right to check it out. So he said, Yo,
Speaker 8: this guy says he's just he's better than Jazzy Jeff
Speaker 8: and blah blah blah blah blah. Here is cash money.
Speaker 8: He set up that you set him up like a
Speaker 8: five heart beat.
Speaker 4: Heart beat and they better than their temptations put together.
Speaker 4: But thegether, we should see the right.
Speaker 8: So so they bowing, they bowing. They cast money at first, No,
Speaker 8: this cast money by himself? What so cast started? What uh?
Speaker 12: And with a piece of president.
Speaker 4: He started doing top billing.
Speaker 8: What just too? I'm looking like So after a while
Speaker 8: I already knew cash money because hanging Philly, Yo, he
Speaker 8: burnt it down so bad everybody wanted to hang with him.
Speaker 8: He was like that kid on the block that the
Speaker 8: only kid that had HBO or atari And you'll be
Speaker 8: asking your mother, did you stay over there? And I
Speaker 8: go with you? I go with Derek House and he
Speaker 8: burned it down. That was That was one of my best.
Speaker 8: And another another story was when when people used to
Speaker 8: get robbed. Okay, what what?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 8: What is your uh?
Speaker 4: Haitian Jack story? Jack was cool with me, but I
Speaker 4: hear that the folk lord for those who don't know,
Speaker 4: I hear that Haitian Jack was the guy that has
Speaker 4: the most collections of hip hop gold chains.
Speaker 8: And it's a lot of them like that you have Jack, But.
Speaker 4: I heard Jack has like you know, he has rock
Speaker 4: kmsty and it's slick Rick. And I heard that he
Speaker 4: had about to say that, Okay, he was rick.
Speaker 12: Rick or bust you.
Speaker 8: We know this. I was there when that shootout happened
Speaker 8: in the Bronx at the Castle. Hit me world is bomb.
Speaker 4: And you got wait what happened?
Speaker 8: Here's what happened. They were outside of the Castle. I
Speaker 8: think he had an argument with what's the castle?
Speaker 4: The Castle?
Speaker 8: You know, the Castle was a club in the Bronx,
Speaker 8: and I think he was with some guys and I
Speaker 8: don't know if they were trying to rob him or whatever,
Speaker 8: but they were just shooting across from car to car.
Speaker 4: So wait, you're in this era and you know you
Speaker 4: just castle him into the gum like at no point
Speaker 4: is it just with you? Is it like they haven't
Speaker 4: a shootout or.
Speaker 8: Is just like.
Speaker 4: Actually, to be honest with you, viz when you on
Speaker 4: the show, I actually came up with the sound effect
Speaker 4: just for you or.
Speaker 12: The yo what they were busting?
Speaker 8: Like my man Ralphie got shot in his eye like
Speaker 8: this now on damn.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 8: They had a lot of They had a lot of
Speaker 8: They had a lot of good fights that in quarters though.
Speaker 8: You they had this dude coming from Connecticut. He was muscle,
Speaker 8: had a tank, he's gonna start talking dancing with dudes
Speaker 8: from Brooklyn Girls and everything. He's not worried all sudden
Speaker 8: that record came on. They got on him like they
Speaker 8: got him, like Bee, I wonder how much money could
Speaker 8: you get? One of the probably got you saying that
Speaker 8: whenever what comes on you, it was time to keep
Speaker 8: by uh uh Funky by Ultimate net Wow really sets
Speaker 8: them three.
Speaker 7: So you just knew.
Speaker 4: Instantly that when those records come on, like somebody Jane
Speaker 4: trying to get you for your Jane.
Speaker 8: No, I stang with them.
Speaker 12: I used to get them in.
Speaker 8: So your approach was befriend them or but I was
Speaker 8: friends with them before records. So yeah, so I'm you know,
Speaker 8: I'm with them. I used to borrow money off them
Speaker 8: from stuff like the real fifty cent, the real fifty cent,
Speaker 8: the real fifty cent from Brooklyn. She stick up am
Speaker 8: the car in the daytime and all that. I mean,
Speaker 8: And you weren't afraid of if we friends. I mean,
Speaker 8: you got people around your way that's gangster friends. You
Speaker 8: don't have people that's gangster that you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I put it on the show. Yeah I'm talking
Speaker 4: about these are real gangs. I know.
Speaker 8: It's just my.
Speaker 12: People what they toes out with timberlands and stuff on.
Speaker 8: This was real gangsters, supreme, All of them was real gangsters.
Speaker 4: So wait, can I ask how many uh uh Dapper
Speaker 4: Dan outfits do you have? And what was the copying
Speaker 4: adopt a Dapper Dan outfit? How long would it take
Speaker 4: from measuring to here's your outfit?
Speaker 8: Well, I used to hang with that, so about half
Speaker 8: half a year, half half a half hour? Wait? What what?
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I gotta bring them. I gotta bring them.
Speaker 4: I can call them right now.
Speaker 8: No I haven't. Haven't.
Speaker 4: I have a dapper damn jacket.
Speaker 8: He made me one. But but it takes a half hour.
Speaker 8: I'm thinking you said measurements?
Speaker 16: No, but like how long would it take from like
Speaker 16: how long would it take from to make it to Wow?
Speaker 4: Because even googling you, you have some ill dapper Dan stuff.
Speaker 4: I've never seen nobody you know got.
Speaker 8: Up. I used to sit out there. I was out
Speaker 8: there when Mitch Green got punched by Mike Mitch Blood.
Speaker 12: I was sitting right there with my what dapping them?
Speaker 8: You were there when sending what It was.
Speaker 12: Early in the morning.
Speaker 4: Bow, So Michigan fores out there? You know, I know
Speaker 4: who is you know who's dapper damn like.
Speaker 11: Exactly design all the outfits with the m c M,
Speaker 11: the findy and ain't know about for everybody.
Speaker 8: You do me pajamas and everything I've seen.
Speaker 4: I feel like you have more crazier dapper dance up.
Speaker 4: And where is that stuff now? Is it in the storage?
Speaker 4: It's next to that beat machine that you can't see.
Speaker 4: Where do you keep your Where do you keep your artifacts?
Speaker 4: Who preserves your artifacts?
Speaker 8: I play with them most of the time.
Speaker 4: Oh so you actually collect your artifacts?
Speaker 8: I touched my joints and all my Johnny Lightning cars,
Speaker 8: my AFX everything.
Speaker 11: But does that in a different place than the throwbacks
Speaker 11: because you got different collections of different things.
Speaker 8: Because I got my house next to me and then
Speaker 8: I got my house. This is Marylands? When did you
Speaker 8: move to Maryland ninety four?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 8: What part of not Baltimore?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 8: Hell no?
Speaker 12: I mean I love Baltimore.
Speaker 8: But boye okay, I have a question, biz.
Speaker 4: It's a little off topic, but every topic.
Speaker 7: What's what's your favorite record store in New York or
Speaker 7: and and also like what's your favorite record store in
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 8: There's like a couple they used to have a store
Speaker 8: in Phoenix called Prickly Pair.
Speaker 4: Okay, and they had a one record Finders in La.
Speaker 4: Do you on latch mount for the amount of records
Speaker 4: you own? Is it now just to the point where
Speaker 4: it's like I own them?
Speaker 8: Or for you?
Speaker 4: Is it like, yo, I'm gonna make some of the
Speaker 4: funkiest records ever.
Speaker 8: Or is it.
Speaker 4: Trade off to something else?
Speaker 8: Or is it.
Speaker 4: You just want to live and listen to It's like you, like,
Speaker 4: do you utilize the stuff you collect?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 4: I'll admit maybe in the past ten years I've just
Speaker 4: been collecting and collecting and hoarding without even It's to
Speaker 4: the point now where I won't even open.
Speaker 8: The boxes that get shipped to my spots because I
Speaker 8: look through some stuff to make sure they're in there. Now,
Speaker 8: you might buy something and it's from across seas and
Speaker 8: you get it and it might be a brick in there.
Speaker 12: To make sure things is in there. So Iday with
Speaker 12: my forty five, So you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: So are you are you more infatuated with the record
Speaker 7: or the music that's on the record?
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like, as do you collect the records because of your
Speaker 7: love for all the you know, the artwork and this
Speaker 7: that and the other thing, or the music that's on.
Speaker 4: It, the sound.
Speaker 8: You know, if you buy an album that you've never seen,
Speaker 8: like you got white Orange?
Speaker 4: No, what's white orange album? Look it up? Loving this ship?
Speaker 8: Look it up?
Speaker 4: I just I mean, I could have told you from
Speaker 4: the gatelight Hea that he will name like twenty things
Speaker 4: that I will automatically have it.
Speaker 8: No to look look it up right now?
Speaker 12: You know, I'm not mad.
Speaker 8: It should be an album sweets jes fusing group. Yeah,
Speaker 8: it should be a it should be a white orange
Speaker 8: on it. What is it?
Speaker 11: The sweetest jazz fusion group?
Speaker 4: Maybe let me see the coming let me see the
Speaker 4: white orange.
Speaker 8: It's a white orange, yeah I do. I've never seen that. Shit?
Speaker 8: What year is that? From? Nineteen eighty? All right? So
Speaker 8: what about it? I just like the way they play
Speaker 8: on it. They play different than anybody else. The sounds
Speaker 8: is incredible.
Speaker 4: Hook me up, biz, I got you.
Speaker 8: I'm giving you, I'm dropping jewels, I'm giving you names.
Speaker 8: I didn't never know what that is.
Speaker 11: So at this point, you got every record that you want, though, right?
Speaker 8: Is it one? Right now? I mean, you can never
Speaker 8: have every record you want, but I'm close. I'm like
Speaker 8: ninety nine point nine. What are you? What you're looking
Speaker 8: for that you do not have? Like? What do you?
Speaker 8: What's your holy grail? I gotta get this record. It's
Speaker 8: a forty five. It's the Sony Walkman commercial on forty five?
Speaker 4: What I got one?
Speaker 8: I'm just looking for another one.
Speaker 4: You notice this is probably the episode of Question of
Speaker 4: Suprea that I've done the least sound effects on. It
Speaker 4: just stumps even me to even what are you looking for?
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm looking for? You know what, Biz,
Speaker 4: I'd be honest with you. I think I'm satisfied you guys.
Speaker 4: You guys are slowly trying to lure me into this
Speaker 4: forty five hole that I get. I think I understand it.
Speaker 4: But if I'm honest, I think I'm trying to resist it.
Speaker 4: What's your name? Is trying to pull me into it?
Speaker 8: Natasha?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Natasha Diggs is really trying to lure me into
Speaker 4: this forty five uh sunk in place that I don't
Speaker 4: know if I Because the thing is that when I
Speaker 4: when I commit to when I when I commit to collecting,
Speaker 4: I go super hard on it. And I think I'm
Speaker 4: at the place now where I'm like, I'm satisfied. But
Speaker 4: but but but the thing is now I do I
Speaker 4: do multi tracks? Multi tracks?
Speaker 8: We all did.
Speaker 4: Remember, That's why I'm going to talk to you this over.
Speaker 12: I just want to mixes. I don't care about all
Speaker 12: those stuff.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm just saying, what are you.
Speaker 11: Trying to get? Is the trade going on?
Speaker 4: We don't know about you?
Speaker 8: Come on, we always The thing is, ever since I
Speaker 8: known quest, we always talked about this. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. What one item can you talk about
Speaker 4: that you know that you're not allowed to talk about
Speaker 4: as far as.
Speaker 8: You owning something? I mean, I see that's the thing. You.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's basic level, basic pedestrian level collecting
Speaker 4: like Funky Jummer forty five or some real super obvious.
Speaker 8: Then there's.
Speaker 12: Multi drives you told about record.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just saying in general, like people have
Speaker 4: general pedestrian collective stuff that's you know, fair, you know
Speaker 4: everyone has. And then there's advanced level stuff that you
Speaker 4: know that you might have to go to this particular
Speaker 4: country to get this specific mix. And then there's the
Speaker 4: third rail level of like you know, you have some
Speaker 4: ship that someone gave you in secret, but you can't
Speaker 4: share with the world ever, and it's like, Frank, Mmmm,
Speaker 4: you got that?
Speaker 8: Which which joint? Which joint? Before I let go multi
Speaker 8: tracks for his sons?
Speaker 4: Does he own his own multi tracks?
Speaker 8: BC Boys was at Capital in the nineties. I mean,
Speaker 8: but that's that's another story for I keep going. Another
Speaker 8: thing I got from somebody, it's between us or wait,
Speaker 8: we're on the air. I know you're saying out here they.
Speaker 4: Can't find it.
Speaker 12: Bluesing Pants forty five?
Speaker 8: Really, no such thing.
Speaker 4: I'll show you the picture. Wait, what country? What country?
Speaker 8: It don't matter what country is direct, it's not an
Speaker 8: American person, it don't matter. It's the record. Okay, Blues
Speaker 8: and Pants?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 4: Not minutes?
Speaker 8: I never knew there was.
Speaker 4: It was a single, damn.
Speaker 8: Quest You still have the same number, right you? Picture
Speaker 8: hit biz ladies and gentlemen. This was another episode picture.
Speaker 8: Do you have like every ct I record? He will say,
Speaker 8: yeah them, Yeah, got most of them.
Speaker 7: There's one that's sort of the holy grail CTI record
Speaker 7: that I'm trying to find.
Speaker 4: He's going to say, yeah, he's never going to see it.
Speaker 7: It's called It's called stone Bone by J and K and.
Speaker 8: My Stuff. I got two trombone player. Guys.
Speaker 7: Uh, it's like, yeah, I think it was Japan only
Speaker 7: or something.
Speaker 8: You got Doom, David Matthews, I got you got doom? Yeah,
Speaker 8: Bob Jason World forty five, you got on one side.
Speaker 8: I have a tenant.
Speaker 4: I have a tenants of nautilusts uh like not a
Speaker 4: twelve inch but a tendancy tendency. I think I have
Speaker 4: a tenants of Nautilus uh five.
Speaker 9: For those listening, this is like the Okay Corral standoff
Speaker 9: of record, like they're staring. There's so much amazing that another.
Speaker 4: One real real Yet to brag on anything I had, Honey,
Speaker 4: buys you anything right now?
Speaker 8: But asley clip a real, real, real label. Oh, non
Speaker 8: Chuck Brown, I got it from Chuck brod used lived
Speaker 8: down the block for me before he passed.
Speaker 4: Non Sussex record.
Speaker 12: Non, No, that's sauce.
Speaker 4: I have Ale Roads clip when they were on a sauce.
Speaker 8: No, you bet you at thousand dollars sauce. No, you're right.
Speaker 8: You watched the made Source. I made a mistake. Its
Speaker 8: on s Yeah.
Speaker 4: Clarence Atabel, Yes, I don't have the forty five.
Speaker 8: I don't believe you know. I'm so exactly.
Speaker 4: You're wait paid in full break just.
Speaker 12: So I gotta see even better. I gotta see even better.
Speaker 8: You like it too, on a real twelve and forty five?
Speaker 8: What biz? No?
Speaker 12: No, I'm I know.
Speaker 8: Look it up.
Speaker 12: I know twelve minutes right now, look it up right now.
Speaker 8: This is I'm yo. You like it too, straight up?
Speaker 4: Look up for you. If they got a picture listening
Speaker 4: and hearing me stumped and all this ship, it's awesome,
Speaker 4: all this kryptonite.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you. Look it up. Let me tell
Speaker 8: y'all something twelve inch.
Speaker 4: I gotta get my powers back from Germany. We're gonna
Speaker 4: do round two from there. This is I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: my power back.
Speaker 8: Heldo, SI making it up.
Speaker 16: No, it's a real from Germany. Come on, son, okay, biz,
Speaker 16: what's this?
Speaker 8: Oh that's easy.
Speaker 12: I'm going to make it real fun up for you,
Speaker 12: all right, And I got forty five.
Speaker 8: This is not mister mean.
Speaker 4: Foster Silvers, mister Montain, huh uh, I know what it is,
Speaker 4: but I can't.
Speaker 8: H uh.
Speaker 4: Come, Oh, let's walking all right. That's if there's a will,
Speaker 4: there's a way by Don Coved Okay, all right, next yeah,
Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, okay, I forgot that. I see. At
Speaker 4: first I was going to pick the song you thought
Speaker 4: I was gonna do, and I was like, no, never
Speaker 4: got me with that. You got let me find that
Speaker 4: same a living. Another song is singing in the morning,
Speaker 4: Singing in the morning. That's funky. Oh sing in the morning.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll do one humble bred Oh. Wait, and
Speaker 4: now a humble Brad. I think it is basically it's
Speaker 4: quest now I'm not even going to play for it.
Speaker 8: This. Do you have funky worm stems?
Speaker 4: Do I got a funky worm?
Speaker 8: I think I do the stems, my little fucker punk
Speaker 8: the stems.
Speaker 4: I think I got funky Ohio players.
Speaker 8: Yes, I think I do. I gotta love, I think
Speaker 8: I do. I think that's everybody got that. I think No,
Speaker 8: I think about the real I think boys had that first.
Speaker 4: It's like a sult mine, right, you guys have a
Speaker 4: special relationship with Armand and his son.
Speaker 8: Look about.
Speaker 4: No, not the forty five with the with the with
Speaker 4: the defensive. Yes, you're talking about the rare forty five
Speaker 4: where they put you trying to play smart on I
Speaker 4: hate when they do that. Wait one of the one
Speaker 4: of the side note Dylan side note. One of one
Speaker 4: of the one of the greatest games of of of
Speaker 4: who's on first between Dylan and I was when we
Speaker 4: were clearing UH the samples.
Speaker 8: For the Light.
Speaker 4: He tried to say funky one. He's like and funky
Speaker 4: warmed by how players. I'm like, that's not funky worm.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, it's fun I'm like, that's not funky worm.
Speaker 4: That's you're getting to be too smart.
Speaker 8: And then they got too different. Both of them got
Speaker 8: the break on the right, but sound and break.
Speaker 4: Dylan didn't realize that at the time. So when I
Speaker 4: finally got to Detroit and he played the forty five
Speaker 4: for me like we were short of, like, yo, I
Speaker 4: bet you five hundred dollars, and then he played it.
Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 8: And then both of them got them right. So Troy
Speaker 8: Emeralds and UH and Ohio, but that's just same soundings.
Speaker 4: But I still consider that, you know, Detroit Emeralds and
Speaker 4: not you know.
Speaker 8: Nah, the two different records. Yeah, but they took it
Speaker 8: from Detroit Emeralds. I don't know who they took it from.
Speaker 8: I know it's on the record, but when you listen
Speaker 8: to Detroit Emeralds break it still this way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: they just took it anyway. This is your last one?
Speaker 4: Really are you now?
Speaker 8: I say ship that's mel Mellow right on. Yeah, that's
Speaker 8: a distinctive.
Speaker 11: Base suicide because I think I thought I had known that.
Speaker 4: The only one didn't say anything. Next, Yes, this is
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'll play the.
Speaker 8: Mellow.
Speaker 4: Next is that he sounds like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: oh wow, more steams than his orchestra from it's called
Speaker 4: the Long Wait. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 4: part of the Hawaii five soundtrack. There's your last one? Biz, Oh,
Speaker 4: I know what that is? That's uh.
Speaker 8: I got the I got the record, I got the
Speaker 8: forty five, I got the album.
Speaker 12: I got the album.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jay z.
Speaker 4: Eddie Henderson inside you? Is there any question of we
Speaker 4: could just play who got? What's fun?
Speaker 8: Do we learned anything?
Speaker 4: Listen, let's just fast forward to the end. What did
Speaker 4: you learn today?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 4: Because we didn't learn something, we gotta ask business.
Speaker 8: We gotta do the second go around.
Speaker 4: Man, What do you learn?
Speaker 6: Is like dude, like he's like the master collector of
Speaker 6: like everybody, and like any record that you want to
Speaker 6: know is.
Speaker 8: Like you got.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a question that we're forgetting to ask.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be like Captain obvious. Once, Oh okay, I
Speaker 4: found out I've got to ask.
Speaker 8: About Yo Gabba Gabba. But go ahead.
Speaker 4: What did you learn?
Speaker 9: I learned that I could listen to Big Markey talk
Speaker 9: for many hours and I'm totally with matter of fact,
Speaker 9: while were added, give let's talk about children's music.
Speaker 4: I know about that, and so the same. So yeah,
Speaker 4: how did you how did you get involved with the
Speaker 4: Yo Gabba Gabba camp?
Speaker 12: What happened with Yo Gabba Gabba?
Speaker 8: They asked me to come in to do the dancing dance,
Speaker 8: but the night before I dj in l A and
Speaker 8: you know you standing up for like five six hours
Speaker 8: you tied. So I was lazy, and so I just said, Yo, Christians,
Speaker 8: while I make them, why don't teach the kids how
Speaker 8: to do the beat box? I named it biz Beata
Speaker 8: today and then we did it. They put that on
Speaker 8: the on the pilot and then they got an old
Speaker 8: woman response and they put me down.
Speaker 4: Are they still actively shooting stuff for it? They and
Speaker 4: they arguing with.
Speaker 11: Because earlier about your Gabba Gabba getting you all the way,
Speaker 11: well not getting you to Japan. But getting you to
Speaker 11: the techniques to get the special turn in.
Speaker 8: Because anybody wants to give make their kids happy.
Speaker 11: That's what I was going to ask you. How many
Speaker 11: opportunities has that opened up for you in a different ways?
Speaker 11: You never would have thought being on the Kids show
Speaker 11: opened up this door.
Speaker 4: I think she meant more career goals and kids knowing
Speaker 4: you're not just I always play with kids.
Speaker 6: I love kids anyway, Yeah, I always just even sitting
Speaker 6: there listening to you talk like you're a walking like
Speaker 6: cartoon characters that have you ever done any of that
Speaker 6: or had any opportunities?
Speaker 8: I did Strangebob once. I did a couple of things,
Speaker 8: but you know, I'm musically driven.
Speaker 4: So what was it like doing Men in Breack? Like?
Speaker 4: I saw the premiere screening of it, and I'll say
Speaker 4: that you got a bigger response than Michael Jackson he did,
Speaker 4: because when Michael Jackson was shocked, like, oh he hit it,
Speaker 4: But when they saw Bizz like, the whole audience was
Speaker 4: whoa Like you know.
Speaker 8: Like what happened was Jeff wasn't going out with Will
Speaker 8: at the time, and he was doing all the albums
Speaker 8: and Hidden Beaches right right, So Jeff said Jeff and
Speaker 8: Will said, Yo, why don't you be DJ? So I
Speaker 8: started going out with Will, so I was hanging around.
Speaker 8: I hung around the set one time and Tommy Lee
Speaker 8: and said, Yo, why don't you get your man to
Speaker 8: do the B box and you'all talk together and that'll
Speaker 8: be a scene. Wow damn, I said, thank you, Will.
Speaker 8: They're the greatest.
Speaker 12: Jeff is the greatest.
Speaker 8: I love him.
Speaker 12: That's my brother.
Speaker 11: I take a bullet from what's the craziest evolution you've seen?
Speaker 11: Because a lot of the folks that you came up with,
Speaker 11: just like you, evolve crazy like. But like looking at Will, Jeff,
Speaker 11: looking at so many Latifa, like whoever you looked at
Speaker 11: and went like shit, I just would have never but
Speaker 11: just dope.
Speaker 8: Flash just that, I mean, just think of the records
Speaker 8: he found. Would hip hop be like that if he
Speaker 8: wasn't here? True? Not even I mean Bam Bodies, Bamboda
Speaker 8: did or did or but Flash.
Speaker 4: So flashes at the top of the pinnacle for you.
Speaker 4: As far as Flash.
Speaker 8: The El Brothers, just think about it. We all eating
Speaker 8: I mean, you play.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, wait, you mentioned the Ol Brothers. What
Speaker 4: crew from back in the day? Who I mean, who's
Speaker 4: the ultramatenetic from back of the day that are like
Speaker 4: pioneers that will not get the dude credit. I'm talking
Speaker 4: from the original Eric. So you always hear about he
Speaker 4: Cold Chuss Brothers and the Funky four plus one, like
Speaker 4: they always named these crew, But who's that one crew
Speaker 4: that had like ill routines, ill techniques that didn't get
Speaker 4: there just Dan.
Speaker 8: Even though they had records Master Dawn crash crew.
Speaker 4: I had boilers Dog, but I forgot them first round ever,
Speaker 4: bit I hate that. I'm not a room see be
Speaker 4: like first Round. All my cities first round.
Speaker 8: I've ever been that first speed rap? Talk about it
Speaker 8: if I can think about it. Oh yeah, the crash
Speaker 8: is three too. Yeah, it's just the point of I'm
Speaker 8: just happy to still be alive to watch what's going on.
Speaker 8: Come on, you're the roots but you biz no, no,
Speaker 8: no this listen one to get ready tell you you
Speaker 8: DJ did the White House? Listen forget?
Speaker 4: I mean forget later. Yeah the first time. Wait, this
Speaker 4: is a funny story for you. So we're at I
Speaker 4: forget what event it was that was? No, no, no,
Speaker 4: the first time I went to the White House correspondence dinner. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I was begging to be the DJ, and they
Speaker 4: were like, no, we can't because you know, we got
Speaker 4: biz And I was like, come on, man, so business spinning.
Speaker 4: And he puts his record on I never heard before
Speaker 4: I and as a DJ, and I'm looking and suddenly
Speaker 4: he puts this record on and I swear it's like
Speaker 4: you remember the scene. I'm giving an old reference, but
Speaker 4: this is the only way I could describe it. You know,
Speaker 4: it was like three o'clock and the brown Hornet comes on.
Speaker 8: And like.
Speaker 4: All of them, but you know, you remember, I'll explain
Speaker 4: that every everyone just stopped what they were doing and
Speaker 4: instantly ran to the dance floor to start doing the wobble.
Speaker 4: But it was like Rachel maddowt it was like the
Speaker 4: white wobble, like white people do, like stop and I
Speaker 4: didn't know it, even like Torrey was like leading this
Speaker 4: line and I never heard the record before. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 4: what's this and vin Bis looking like you never heard
Speaker 4: of the wobble?
Speaker 11: You had never heard of the okay, right.
Speaker 4: It was like maybe maybe two months old, and not
Speaker 4: just wasn't on it, but I was. I was like
Speaker 4: d C ship or whatever, because at the rate war
Speaker 4: to knew the dance, and I was like, damn, I'm
Speaker 4: funked up in the game because the wobble.
Speaker 6: It goes every fan reunion, every wedding reception, a Cuban shuffle.
Speaker 8: Yeah, those lying that like black folks, I.
Speaker 11: Mean, you're right, start south and Midwest.
Speaker 4: But I was just that the attendees of the White
Speaker 4: House correspondence like not only knew the dance, but like,
Speaker 4: because wait to do today everything.
Speaker 8: It's so nice to be I'll be right back.
Speaker 4: That was That was That was a crazy moment.
Speaker 11: You cut off business compliment. I just worry about notice compliments.
Speaker 7: You want to hear compliments, compliment what you learn I
Speaker 7: learned that he's better than you.
Speaker 4: Pretty much.
Speaker 8: A lot of ways, sug.
Speaker 7: I have one more question, though, there's this Crieff like a.
Speaker 4: Lot hold on. Yeah, wait, ladies, Steve Stevens he said under.
Speaker 12: The Louis, yeah you have that.
Speaker 8: You have Wait did you say to two or true?
Speaker 8: What do you say?
Speaker 7: The Bob James joint came in came in that too, right, Okay.
Speaker 7: I've been scouring, like even.
Speaker 8: I couldn't find that for Steve, and I've been looking
Speaker 8: for Yeah, it's very like.
Speaker 4: First of all, not a lot of people know about it.
Speaker 7: And second of all, they must have made like ten
Speaker 7: of them or some ship because they're they're not around.
Speaker 8: Like you can't find you got I think we had
Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. A lot of things ain't.
Speaker 12: Gonna be around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 8: It's not it's not. You gotta think if you was
Speaker 8: shopping for records in the eighties in the nineties, everything
Speaker 8: was around.
Speaker 7: This came out in eight is when, but it was
Speaker 7: it was a promotional thing where like I got it.
Speaker 8: From Iole, from rat I stole it from BLS because
Speaker 8: they had w w r L and b LS update
Speaker 8: what I say say so not w b LS. I
Speaker 8: love it.
Speaker 7: You just took it from a radio station, both of them.
Speaker 7: From the radio station.
Speaker 4: Steve hasn't been as excited ever, you know. And it's funny.
Speaker 4: There's always in every hip hop producer's story, there's a.
Speaker 7: Straight hold on a second, can we trade something?
Speaker 4: There's my phone? Take this, it's first born. There's always
Speaker 4: a radio station that you rated all them colleges that
Speaker 4: they always has that one intern that I was super
Speaker 4: nice too. That was just like I don't care about
Speaker 4: these records, you can go through them.
Speaker 8: And that's time to get the records eighty. Because it
Speaker 8: was the transition period to the season. I was wow.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, let's I mean, Steve has been
Speaker 4: in quite a pain for this episode, but the second
Speaker 4: for his whole life. The second that Bissan mentioned that briefcase,
Speaker 4: it was like, Lazard, you remember another old reference when
Speaker 4: Warning McFly came to life once his parents kissed at
Speaker 4: the champ angel and he started playing. That was the
Speaker 4: all right, boss, Bill, what did you learn? You learned
Speaker 4: that this episode is going a half hour overboard?
Speaker 8: I looked too long. No no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 8: no no.
Speaker 10: I kind of want to co sign with Steve said,
Speaker 10: I've been shopping record for records with you. I think
Speaker 10: I want to go with BIZ next. Okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 10: that's the case. Do you still go records out?
Speaker 8: Let me see it? Nah?
Speaker 11: Exactly, it's he said, he got ninety nine everything that
Speaker 11: he wants.
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, come on, quest even if you come out
Speaker 8: and make a case to DJ withold what records you
Speaker 8: really looking forward that you got to find? Right now?
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Biz, I think I'm satisfied.
Speaker 8: I I'm good, A good.
Speaker 4: Yes I have. I have about one hundred thousand records,
Speaker 4: and I'll say that of those hundred thousands, I know
Speaker 4: that at least a good nine hundred are like ultra
Speaker 4: ultra special. I mean the rest is like, you know,
Speaker 4: do I really need all the high energy records from Motown? Now?
Speaker 4: Do I need like dance all night by the Parts?
Speaker 8: No? On? People? Do you got to show enough?
Speaker 4: I know I have every People record ever you got?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh sweet, signed in the wicket?
Speaker 8: You got forty five?
Speaker 4: Show up, dude, you got the forty five justin Timberlake Joint?
Speaker 11: Do you have the forty five?
Speaker 8: I own it? How do I own it?
Speaker 4: I do not have a forty five? I think, No,
Speaker 4: there's not a record I know I own show.
Speaker 8: Once.
Speaker 4: Justin told me that record for Suiting, Time, Suit and Tie.
Speaker 12: I knew the record when I heard it.
Speaker 8: Yes, I own that record. I don't know which configuration
Speaker 8: I own it. I got to forty five, but I
Speaker 8: know I know people. One is the purple people.
Speaker 4: There's a wait, there's a white there's a white label.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do own one. Jesus, did I just tell
Speaker 8: you read and they got a purple didn't hear the
Speaker 8: red one.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know I have a white label, sure enough,
Speaker 4: but also you know I cheat because I know Alan leit.
Speaker 4: So literally, he's just give me all this, James Brown
Speaker 4: over it.
Speaker 8: Just do you got Champ? You know Champs? I have
Speaker 8: that on the album. I don't have a Atlantic Records, No,
Speaker 8: Steven still man, we are all very very disappointed. Man.
Speaker 8: I learned.
Speaker 11: I learned that a mind has never been polluted by
Speaker 11: weed is a powerful thing. And this is your memory
Speaker 11: is like fucking remarkable. I hope there's no book biz.
Speaker 8: They want me to do a book, but what was wrong?
Speaker 8: I'm still singing, so you know I ain't no Unsung yet.
Speaker 11: You gotta do it, Unsung, write a book. People a
Speaker 11: lot Russell write books like every two years.
Speaker 12: So one thing, go ahead, question you got this back?
Speaker 8: Then if you get money and you go to a
Speaker 8: record shop and you get him, you get him A fifty.
Speaker 8: Didn't let you look through anything. Take you to the back,
Speaker 8: They take you, take you to go underneath. Okay, what
Speaker 8: your way? I knew voalshively, you know that right fucking real? Yes,
Speaker 8: he's let me go in the basement, go to his
Speaker 8: house and everything.
Speaker 4: I would never get past the letter d Voal Shively
Speaker 4: is the guy that was like mean to us, and
Speaker 4: then he found out who my dad was.
Speaker 8: It was like, welcome to my store, offer me a job.
Speaker 8: Now I don't want it, all right, So all right,
Speaker 8: this is what I'm proposing, and this is what you
Speaker 8: don't know biz. All right.
Speaker 4: So I'll say for the last four months, me and
Speaker 4: practically all the heavyweights and hip hop production, from Pete
Speaker 4: to Primo to j Cole to Ninth Wonder to just Blaze.
Speaker 8: To uh forgetting people.
Speaker 4: Not nots to Fortain. Yeah, Harrison, J Harrison is, stro Elliott, everyone,
Speaker 4: Jeremy Ellis, Everybody's in this. This tip Swiss beats.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 4: So I started a thread and we dubbed ourselves. We're
Speaker 4: like a brotherhood of nineteen cats, and we dubbed ourselves.
Speaker 4: Asked Vaughan got here, No, literally the the yes, besides
Speaker 4: we can catch it. Yes, yes, Peanut butter Wolf is
Speaker 4: talking right now. Literally, I'm on with like all twenty
Speaker 4: two of them with asked one. Wait, okay, he says,
Speaker 4: oh wow, okay, this is the last question I'm gonna
Speaker 4: ask you. They I'm proposing a special BIZ episode of
Speaker 4: of Ofquest Love Supreme, in which if I can coordinate
Speaker 4: the twelve ask one East Coast members to do the
Speaker 4: show where they literally lee grill Biz on story because
Speaker 4: they're still like and I'm telling him like yo, he
Speaker 4: really does as it's forty five. Okay, here's your final story.
Speaker 8: Biz.
Speaker 4: You have to ask business from Rashott Smith.
Speaker 8: I know the story. I know this story. Wait, let
Speaker 8: me read it. Let me read you gotta actually read
Speaker 8: it though.
Speaker 4: Yes, mother, I'm my own goddamn radio self.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 4: Rushott Smith says, you have to ask Biz about the
Speaker 4: luth Evanrels Madison Square Garden story on now he got
Speaker 4: a beat from Luthor to come to beatbox for on
Speaker 4: stage at the garden. True or false?
Speaker 8: True? That was when I had just a front out
Speaker 8: and we was both represented by BURTA. Dell Ah So
Speaker 8: Burke Padell was the one that asked me, you go
Speaker 8: get up there. You know, if you get up there
Speaker 8: with Luther, you know you get some of his fans
Speaker 8: and this and that. Would you do?
Speaker 11: Did you I do something together?
Speaker 8: I just did Ladies and Jent. Look that up.
Speaker 12: If you I can't look at it, I mean I'm
Speaker 12: saying look and see if that be.
Speaker 8: And Luther van jos was both represented by Burke Padell
Speaker 8: I or you looking at it right now? Now he
Speaker 8: was in accounting right, Bert was.
Speaker 4: Okay, but if I can organize and ask one session.
Speaker 8: Yeah, take them all on.
Speaker 4: I want to see you pull off this.
Speaker 11: I got this, got get him on video statings you
Speaker 11: can put in the group. I'll take all y'all motherfuckers.
Speaker 12: And I put them on. I get in the group.
Speaker 8: Two.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, you ain't got to work to he's
Speaker 11: got to work to get in the group.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can only hold twenty two people, and
Speaker 4: we accidentally had to boot Diplot off the supposedly anyway,
Speaker 4: all right, so I have you a video right now.
Speaker 4: So you're saying to the Askan crew that they're allowed
Speaker 4: to come and grill you.
Speaker 8: Whenever you want to. I'm gonna grow you up back too.
Speaker 8: Don't leave your feelings at the door. I'll tell you
Speaker 8: got a hip hop starter. So Rush, I got stories
Speaker 8: about him too, And I remember when Q Tip used
Speaker 8: to be in high school at Mary Bertram, I know
Speaker 8: all that.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 8: Anyway, it's gonna be like the Battle of Oil. See
Speaker 8: this is all ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: This is a very special, special special special episode of
Speaker 4: Business Markey's Quest Love Supreme only on vandor on behalf
Speaker 4: of Sugar Steve and uh Fan Tigelow and Boss Bill.
Speaker 8: And You're going to have business on Sesame Street one day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's He's the new Joe Roposo right there.
Speaker 8: Yes, I said the street.
Speaker 4: This is part of our new idea. Five people, I did.
Speaker 8: This is all right?
Speaker 4: All right, business down and uh, I'm Phil, I'm I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Well you're paid, Yeah, well paid.
Speaker 8: And Martin he did. Yes, you did awesome.
Speaker 4: Bus fantastic, thank you, thank you for your time.
Speaker 12: Yes, you did awesome.
Speaker 4: And just to watch us away from our sins off
Speaker 4: this dude one, I wait, thank you man, I appreciate you,
Speaker 4: all right.
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