1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, It's Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. June 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: marks Black Music Month. We often speak about it on 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Questlove Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: for the recognition on the show. Every day this June, 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: we are running a different episode from the QLs archives 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: to honor the tradition and intent of Black Music Month. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: This week we are focusing on some of the great 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: hip hop conversations that ULS catalog. Our leader Questlove has 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: a new book out called hip Hop Is History. Check 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: it out at questlove dot com. This is a conversation 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: with the late Bizmarquis that first aired in the summer 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen. The Biz may he rest in peace 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: or bring a brand of authentic but funny hip hop 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: to so many audiences? 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: Supreme Supremo role called Suprema sun So Supreme role called 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: Supreme Supreme role called Supreme Supreme Roll. 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: So Bob Jeames Bellis, Marty gri Biz claims the song 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 4: yeah Survey sas. 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah Sure, Supreme role called Supreme. 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: So Supreme role, Call my name is Fante. 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to bawl, Yeah, because my house is 24 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 6: the average square. 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: Mall Supreme Supreme role called Suprema So Supreme role called. 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 7: My name is Sugar with bizmar Key. Yeah, and this 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 7: is roll call. Yeah, nobody beats me. 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 5: Supreme Upprema, roll called Suprema Son Son Supremo. 29 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 8: Roll called Bill. 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, rahaps to do yea shout out to bismarcky. Yeah, 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 9: men in black two roll call Suprema. 32 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: Son Supremo, roll call Suprema Son Supremo roll loost Bill. 33 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 10: I am yeah, not a Republican. I just wanted to say, yeah, 34 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 10: fuck GILBERTL. 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 6: Sullivan Supreme roll call, Suprema So Supreme roll call. 36 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 11: It's slight. 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 8: Yeah. 38 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 11: Yeah about this paper. Yeah, y'all better watch out. Yeah, 39 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 11: y'all get them. 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 8: Supreme landing on time, So Supreme. There was turbulus in 41 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 8: the middle. 42 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: Vers Son Supremo roll called. 43 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 8: I am the Amazon. Yeah, I'm with the Sugars. Yeah. 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 8: And what I do, Yeah, I'm picking good. 45 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 5: Supremo roll Supremo, Supreme Suprema Supremo, roll call, Suprema Supremo 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 5: roll call. 47 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 48 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: Wow, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Quest 49 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: Love Supreme only on Pandora. I am Quest Love with 50 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: me Team Supreme. We got a fun tig alow in 51 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: the place. Uh, tik tig. I gotta go old school 52 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: with the names. What with the double names? Oh yeah, Ti, Yeah, 53 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: take Ti. 54 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 8: And then that's really cool cool. We gotta unpaid Bill. 55 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: How you doing, man, I'm great, You're great, fucking excited, 56 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: you're fucking excited. Markey is here, of course, of course 57 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: he is, Sugar Steve. You're doing better. 58 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 8: I'm great, man, I'm great. How great are you? Average? 59 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 7: Grade medium? 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 8: Medium, extra medium? 61 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: And we got Boss Bill in the place to be 62 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: How you doing? And uh liyah ak Margaret and our 63 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: guest today, ladies and gentlemen, is probably probably next to 64 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: ll cool J, one of the timeless figures in hip 65 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: hop culture that has transcended decades. 66 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 8: Uh. It's never going. 67 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: Stale always uh, you know, around doing stuff and it's 68 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you can call him a pioneer, you can 69 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: call him an innovator, you can call him a pop 70 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: culture collector, historian. Uh, you could call him everything. But 71 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: most importantly, you got a bollicle the diabolical. Welcome to 72 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: Chluss loves abree Yeah. 73 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 8: Crash, what's up? What's up with you? Know? 74 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 12: Glad, I'm glad I'm here with you. 75 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: So Biz, I don't ever recall you doing an in 76 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: depth interview ever. Like it's like we all know you, 77 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: You're ubiquitous, You're everywhere, but I don't know if we 78 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: really know your story. I'm into the to the level 79 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: that we should know it. But I do know that 80 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: everyone that speaks of you that I work with, and 81 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: I've worked with, everyone has the highest level of respect 82 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: for your you know, your your contribution and and and 83 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: all your knowledge of hip hop. So thank you for 84 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: for doing the show with us today. 85 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 8: Oh come on, you know I couldn't let it turn 86 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 8: it down? All right? 87 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: So before we start your story, we we got to 88 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: get to the elephant in the room. Just admitted business. 89 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 4: There is no bellis mind there? 90 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 8: Wait? 91 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 12: Business? 92 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: Can I explain? 93 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: Wait before we like, do you know? 94 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 8: Okay? 95 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: See I always have to ask like you first and 96 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: then I know the public now, but wait, let me explain, 97 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: Let me explain the premise of it. This has inadvertently 98 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: created uh pop culture collectors in all of us. I'll 99 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: say that the very first person that I've ever heard 100 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: of buying out factories, uh, buying additional houses for their 101 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: collections of be it toys, dolls, board games, uh, clothes, 102 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: old videotapes, old movies, records, forty fives old machine like 103 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: the basically what my house is now, like about the 104 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: black version of the forty year old version, all your crap, yes, 105 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: for yes, all the stuff that we've had, the rummings 106 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: through business, business. 107 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 7: To the reason that you're the reason he has eighteen 108 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 7: storage units right now pretty much. 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: But I mean there's a bunch of us. 110 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 8: But the thing is is that it. 111 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: Starts with it starts with Biz claiming that there's a 112 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: record out there that we all turned the earth over 113 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: for it and never seem to find, and only Bizz 114 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: quote has it. 115 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: So yes, now, everyone, you record, you're recorder. You recorded records, 116 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 8: right of course, Now when you went to master it. 117 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 8: Have you ever had a record that was mastered that 118 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 8: you didn't want because it was it was the wrong 119 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 8: sound or something wasn't right. 120 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I've you know what, Yes, Okay, there's an 121 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: original version of Michael Jackson's Off the Wall that does 122 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: not have the handclaps and rock with you that I 123 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: later found out that. 124 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 8: Was now they got to make the music the same way. Okay, 125 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 8: where it's no it's no bells, it's just the drums. 126 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: With the shakers. Okay, we scrapped that. 127 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 8: There was only there was only thirty five. There was 128 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 8: only thirty five to fifty put out of make the music. 129 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 8: It was EP. Okay, some people got it. But the 130 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 8: thing is, I'm trying to tell you the original EP, 131 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 8: the original EP with the black and white Coca Cola. 132 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 8: But there's two different ones. Okay, there's one with the 133 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 8: with the Isaac Hay's and there's one that's don't got 134 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 8: the Isaac case and I got Isaac Hays in the 135 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 8: middle with with the with the hook, the version that's 136 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 8: on the record now with the Madi Grad. I don't 137 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 8: know where I got it from. I'm not a snitch. 138 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: It's thirty years later. 139 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 8: You know you're not no no, no, no no on 140 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 8: your record dealer is listen to me? Listen what was saying? Yes? 141 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 12: So the MAIGHTI Grad? Since everybody know Madi. 142 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 8: Grad a live record, it is, yes, Maighty Guard is 143 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 8: a live record. You can hear the people talk play 144 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 8: on Mighty gra mad Gud you can hear the people 145 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 8: talking in the background. 146 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: Well that I assume asking Bob James that was the 147 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: sound effects of a bunch of animals. 148 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 8: And back in the day, Bob James and all of them, 149 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 8: I was. It was finally when I place. Wait, a 150 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 8: lot of musicians back then, don't remember. You're gonna tell 151 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 8: me you get right, you get splotched right now. He 152 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 8: couldnt sing Family of Fair the way he's singing you right, 153 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 8: I don't know. 154 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 12: Listen to me. I don't know how many of them out. 155 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 8: Listen to me. I don't know how many of them 156 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 8: are out. But when I got it, I had it 157 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 8: since the nineties. It's like an acetate, okay, okay, So 158 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 8: when I got it and I battled this dude name 159 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 8: top Speed in Indianapolis. No top Speed, you know, Okay, 160 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 8: when I put it on, then everybody started talking about it. 161 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: So you're saying, all right, just to let just let. 162 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 8: Mark mark redon marg. 163 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I had twelve rounds, I know. 164 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 8: And there's twelve Like a lot of people don't think 165 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 8: there's twelve inches of Mardi Gras one sided. They do, 166 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 8: got Mardi Gras twelve inches real on ct I one sided. 167 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 8: My man Supreme the Rock from Seattle got him. I 168 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 8: got him, A couple of us got him. I'm just 169 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 8: letting you know, all right. 170 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play you. You would know it as the 171 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: Peter Piper bells, one of the things you do so basically. 172 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: Now Biz claims he has a version of Marti Grau 173 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: without the bells and it just the drums, thus sending 174 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: us into a fineinancial tail spin. I put off Brodick. No, 175 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: it's for real, like I joke about it. But you know, 176 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: it's when when you get in this industry, football players, 177 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: sports people, the first the first person besides yourself that 178 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: you treat for is your mama. In my never ending 179 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: bid to find this record and acquiring all the other records, 180 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: well I can't find well I'll take these. 181 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 8: I'll take these. I'll take these. I'll take one record. 182 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: I know I put off by my mama's house, but 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: to search. 184 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 8: It's one record. I'm a person that has one of 185 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 8: the most extensive record collections that you ever will see. 186 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 8: I know how many records you got that you never 187 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 8: seen people with? 188 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: Probably got fourteen. 189 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 12: No, you got no, no, no. 190 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 8: I've talked about how many records that you bought that 191 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 8: you never seen nobody else with. 192 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 4: I know for a fact that I have fourteen one 193 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: of ones, like something that no one else will have 194 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: but me. 195 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 8: I got like at least I know you got a 196 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 8: I got like at least two three thousand. I never 197 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 8: seen nobody. I never see nobody puss. Right, that's like 198 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 8: when people when I came out at the park with 199 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 8: my SL seven hundred. 200 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: Yes I'm from I got you. Look. 201 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 12: Look as soon as. 202 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 8: I've been you've been saying, father, I'm sighting with them. 203 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 8: These are old man I'm fighting with Do you want 204 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 8: me to do? I can't make them do something. 205 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 7: It sounds like he has he said as it sounds 206 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 7: like it's a test pressing. 207 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 8: What happened is it's a mistake. You know how if 208 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 8: you listening something and something you don't hear, and then 209 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 8: you go back and do it over. Come on, you know, 210 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 8: come on, I have no I have no reason to 211 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 8: lie about one record. 212 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, well, since we're talking about it, we 213 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: might as well do a special dish and not business. Yes, 214 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: the one time only a busy guess. So since you 215 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: the record master, we do this thing where we have 216 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: producers on the show identify songs now, normally with Tip 217 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: and Primo and I've done Snares or just but with you, 218 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: I'm we're doing the doctorate degree course on this. I'm 219 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 4: gonna give you not even half a second, Biz, not 220 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: even not even half a second. Looks it's like this 221 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: is easy, and I'm doing stabs. I'm not even doing 222 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: Snares kicks or high hats. I'm doing stabs. 223 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 8: Biz. 224 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: What is the song? 225 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 8: Oh that's that's some engine number nine. 226 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: I'll play it again. Nope, yes, yeah, uh. 227 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 8: I hear that the the the bongos. I can't I 228 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 8: know the record? I just. 229 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: All right, oh outside even count. 230 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 8: First of all, all the DJs used to play play 231 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 8: south Side Movement on forty five. 232 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll get it plus record and plus give me 233 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 4: give me a story about the recordse I know you 234 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: have some weird story about well. 235 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 8: First of all, back in eighty one or eighty, they 236 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 8: used to have a record store called Downstairs Records. Yes, 237 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 8: I've heard it on forty second Street and eighth downstairs 238 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 8: sn Roy l Roy used to be. It used to 239 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 8: be like a thing. It used to be thing right here, 240 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 8: He used to stand on aside the records on the wall. 241 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 8: That album went for like ten dollars just. 242 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: The single loan or know the hour the album that 243 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: it came from, and it said moving on it. Okay, 244 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, Wait what do you mean still 245 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: there Steve record in the subway? 246 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 8: Right? Yeah, that's not it's not it's a different one. 247 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, that was after a while, it moved 248 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 8: up it moved upstairs, then it moved to forty third Street. 249 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: All right, here's your second one. Biz mm hmmm, whoa 250 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: mm hmmm. 251 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 8: I can't do it. That's too short. M hm. So 252 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 8: when it's all done, all right, come on, man, come on, 253 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 8: let's breakthrough truck Turner and any breakthrough stories breakthrough. First 254 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 8: time I heard breakthrough was Vambada and Jazzie Jay was 255 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 8: cutting it in the park where Uh Bronx Bronx River 256 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 8: Bronx River a Zoo Nation Anniversary. 257 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: Okay, this is your third record. 258 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 8: Oh I know what that is. 259 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: I know what it is. 260 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 8: I know the record. I can't think of it right now, 261 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 8: I know the record? 262 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: All right? 263 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 8: Uh bad White, no, no, no, maybe that's how bouncing 264 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 8: Bouncy La Stutch yourself off out a details of. 265 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 12: The first time I got the first first time I got. 266 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 8: The Bouncy Bouncy Lady albums was from King Carroll, who 267 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 8: was a record store because downstairs, I mean, uh Flash 268 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 8: was cutting it one time and it sold out a downstairs, 269 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 8: so I had to go down the street to King 270 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 8: Carroll on forty third, I mean forty second between seventh 271 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 8: and six. 272 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: So I'm assuming that all the records that I initially 273 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: first acquired on the Ultimate Beats and Breaks compilations you 274 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: got firsthand because you were first generation witnessing Flashing on. Okay, cool, 275 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: all right, here's your fourth record, Come. 276 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 8: On, that's Get Out of My Life woman, Lee Dors. 277 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: Were you the first to use that? 278 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 8: Day? 279 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 12: Last Soul used their first, but they used the fast. 280 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 8: And I know you bad. That's right, that's right, that's right, 281 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 8: that's right. 282 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: Okay, so they used it for the baseball joint on. 283 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, but just a freak album. 284 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: That album. All right, here's your last record, buz in 285 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: Round one. 286 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 8: Of business. 287 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: You guessed it sounds like a Q tip record. I'll 288 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: I'll do a little pre roll for you. This is 289 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: so easy. I'm picking the easiest breaks of all time. 290 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: Oh wow wow, okay, yeah, Superman Love everybody text. 291 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 8: But the thing is I never looked at Superman Love 292 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 8: as a break really, so it was not. The intro 293 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 8: was never rhymed over, and. 294 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: That wasn't a break. 295 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 8: Really, breaks is like scratching. 296 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: I can't so stuff between one hundred and ten bpms 297 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: and faster, you. 298 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 8: Know, I mean, I don't know about the speed. I'm 299 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: just saying. Records that you know. 300 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: Had naked drums, right, naked drums. 301 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 8: You had to have like mighty guad nautilists, you know 302 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 8: what I mean. Pe Life you got that right, Yeah, 303 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 8: of course I have that. 304 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: That was around one of BIZ and we'll come with 305 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: a part two later. All right, So, Biz, where were 306 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: you born? 307 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 8: I was born in Harlem and Colonial Projects. 308 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: You're from Harlem. 309 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 8: Then I moved away when I was ten to Long 310 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 8: Island and I grew up in Long Island, I was, 311 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 8: I mean, I lived in patriog You know, so you 312 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 8: because I've heard Jersey and her Brooklyn, Jersey, I feel. 313 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 4: Like you lived everywhere. 314 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 8: No, I moved to Jersey after records. I stayed with 315 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 8: my sister a little in Brooklyn in like eighty three, 316 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 8: and then eighty four is when I met Marley and them. Okay, 317 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 8: and then. 318 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: So what I mean, did you aspire to be a 319 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: DJ at first? 320 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 8: Or like? 321 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: What was I told I had to make records? I 322 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 4: got bored with rap to why records? Like you had 323 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: a father that was a collector? 324 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 8: Or? 325 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: You like, how did you use to. 326 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 8: Play with Cold Traine? And then back in the day, Wow, 327 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 8: you're a jazz kid. Life used to play. My pops 328 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 8: used to play with you know, back in the back 329 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 8: in the sixties and fifties. So but I know, I'm 330 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 8: just a I was just a collector. I started collecting. 331 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 8: My first forty five was Ben Okay. So then when 332 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 8: when hip hop came out? Like my man when I 333 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 8: was in Long Island in seventy eight, my man bought 334 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 8: an El Brother's tape out, you know, grant with a theater. 335 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 8: So I got bit by the bug after that. What's 336 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 8: your dad's name? So Royal Hall. Yeah, he played saxophone. 337 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: Steve's resident jazz Fetish. 338 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you another person father that used to 339 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 8: play in the clubs jazz and stuff, Martin Sheen. 340 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: V Martin she President, Martin she. 341 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 8: Wow. Back in the day, I mean, that's my postuma, 342 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 8: because back then you could go to them things in 343 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 8: Manhattan little clubs and playing uh you know what I mean, 344 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 8: his father or him him? Oh wow, oh wow, that's 345 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 8: about here, about in his early thousands right now. 346 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: No, but wow, I never knew what did he play? 347 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: He said. No, I'm just telling you. 348 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 4: He told me. Oh, you don't know what instrument he played, piano. 349 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 8: I just know he played or he was dead anyway 350 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 8: from my mom. Don't lie about that. I'm gonna bring 351 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 8: his name up. 352 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's rather random to bring 353 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 4: it up. So it look everything you tell me, I'm 354 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: taking for your word. Biz, I'm just saying I just 355 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: never found the money record. But I digress anyway. 356 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 8: So I never found turntables either. 357 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 10: We've seen the evidence of the turntables. It could be 358 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 10: photoshop though true the turn. 359 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 4: Oh so Biz has a pair of techniques that only 360 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: play forty fives? Oh wow, yeah, I mean ill, but 361 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: no one else can get them. But Biz, why they wait? 362 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: Why is that I'm skipping all over your timeline? Why 363 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 4: do you have these? First of all, what happened when 364 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: the techniques make these? 365 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, technique, what happened was back in the day before, 366 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 8: like eighty eight. 367 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: You've had these since? 368 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 8: Oh no, I'm telling your story. Back in the day before. 369 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 8: They were going to put them out like in the eighties, 370 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 8: but then the CD boom came and everything, so they 371 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 8: scrapped them. 372 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: And what these are just in the factory. 373 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 8: Like So when I went out to Japan to do 374 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 8: Yo Gabba Gabba, damn, I started having you got somebody 375 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 8: great grandson and then your gaba gap is the kids. 376 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 8: I'm hanging with them. So hey, they brought me to 377 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 8: the factory and I saw so many turntables that was incredible. Wow. 378 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 8: So I saw them and they was in the corner. 379 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 8: So I made a lot of trades for that. 380 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: All right, Before I go back to your timeline, I 381 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: might as well go there, biz. Okay, your house of 382 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 4: records are on fire. 383 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 8: Knock on the wood your. 384 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: House of okay, well, knock on wood whatever. Your house 385 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: of records are on fire. Okay, what five records are 386 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: you going to save? 387 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 8: I mean one of them is bartigraphs. 388 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: Which five records from your burning house on fire? Are 389 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: you going to save? 390 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 8: My devotion live forty five to who? Yeah? 391 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: Wait, there's a forty five of devotion on from Gratitude live, Yeah, 392 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: from Gratitude. 393 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 12: Tap your hands. 394 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: That's on forty five. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Okay, your house 395 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: is burning. By the way, this is sounds cent of fire, 396 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: burning house on fire. 397 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 12: My team plays are cool on forty five. 398 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: There's a tea plays cool forty five. 399 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 8: Are these promo cops? Like? Are they promo copies? Google it? 400 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 8: You got it right there? Team plays cool. 401 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm looking I'm looking them up. 402 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 8: I'm looking them up. 403 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 7: Are these like white label promo promo copies or regular? 404 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 8: I got one? That is is an EP? It's on 405 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 8: Tape Car Records. 406 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: Tape Car Records, look it up EP. I gonna be 407 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: lit this episode. 408 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 12: About when when? 409 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 8: When he pull it up, I want I want to 410 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 8: apology ahead, dude, go ahead, buzz I'm believing that. 411 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 10: Wait wait wait wait, here's he plays a cool forty 412 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 10: five from the UK. Oh no, from Turkey. 413 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 9: Excuse me, I tell you your Turkey there too, so 414 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 9: go ahead. 415 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 4: Oh I gotta find that's your fire. 416 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 8: That's my fire? 417 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 12: Well all right, the rest gonna burn. 418 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: Business as many records you've got. 419 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 8: Like, I can't it's too plays Muhammad. I leave forty five. 420 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I've seen, Yes, I've seen that one. Yes, I've 421 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: seen that. 422 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 12: Because it's signed. 423 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 8: Uh, I can't think of that now. Damn. There's too 424 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 8: many records. 425 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 7: You're like, you're like forty fives more than more than LPs. 426 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 8: Your forty fives got the reason I started DJing with 427 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 8: forty fivest all these records, milk, they. 428 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: Had its time. What about your other artifacts? 429 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 12: What you didn't say that, you just said record. 430 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: So now, Biz, your house, your your artifacts house is burning. 431 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 8: What are you saving? I'm taking my two pair of 432 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 8: SL seven hundreds, one with the curve on, one with 433 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 8: the straight arm. I'm taking my Flashes beat box that 434 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 8: he gave me. 435 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh you own a beat box? Yes, yeah, he gave 436 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: that to you. 437 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 438 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 12: Fuck, he gave me the name I got it. 439 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 8: Biz, Can you reveal what that drumming scene is? Biz? 440 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: Look, I want you. 441 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 12: I can't keep from the world. 442 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: I want you and Pete Rock. But Business, what you 443 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: gotta understand is you've seen and this is the fire 444 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 4: still burning. 445 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 12: But you want to how you want to know? 446 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 8: How you want to stop me from getting my stuff? 447 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 8: As you got the fire burning, I'm setting the fire. 448 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: And to help you save it at the same time. 449 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 8: Biz. 450 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: But wait, this is what I'm saying now. I can 451 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: see back in eight boards. I can see back in 452 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: eighty eighty nine ninety when it was a breathless race 453 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: to the finish to find some illshit and. 454 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 8: Then recreate some But this started from eighty one to 455 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 8: eighty two. So I'm older than y'all, so I know. 456 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: But listen, here's the point now. But we can agree 457 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 4: that you utilized it to its n degree between the 458 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: late eighties and the mid arts, either by sampling, making records, 459 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: or playing it for us in concert as a DJ. 460 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is you do acknowledge in twenty 461 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: seventeen there is a somewhat of a drought going on 462 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 4: in hip hop culture as you know it now. I'm 463 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: not saying that everything should stay the same, nothing else 464 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: to change. Yes, I love the the you know, the 465 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: evolution of musical culture. But I would almost rather someone 466 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: that's listening to this program search for that flash drum 467 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: machine so they can. 468 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 8: Go out and make some. 469 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: Why you and Bete are the most secretive people, But 470 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: how are we secret? 471 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 8: Because we got something we want everybody to have. I 472 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 8: have a definition of seapop. 473 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: I know what makes you, we know what makes you unique. 474 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: But when you want after, okay. 475 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 8: We don't tell everybody everything you got, I do. No, 476 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 8: I don't share. 477 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 12: I know you. 478 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about share an m P three F 479 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 8: take people, I'm not talking about m P three five. 480 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 4: Look mic f come on, I'm saying, my son, I'm 481 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: staying this record though, I'm staying this. 482 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 8: For the record. 483 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: I understand that I've taken about I've taken about maybe 484 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: two hundred people in my lifetime, record shopping being shopping, Like, 485 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: why keep it alltimate? 486 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 8: No? I just took like two thousand, three thousand, all right? 487 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 8: Just saw, Hey you got. 488 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 12: A Jogi, Jeff, you gass cash? 489 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 8: Money? 490 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: Can I ask on flash gags? 491 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 8: Vaughn? You got your boy? 492 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: Why shot? 493 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 494 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: We can't reach it. We can't reach Primo wanted me 495 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: to call him on the show. My man, I know what, son, 496 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: He told me all the questions to ask you. 497 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 8: But I'm just saying. 498 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 11: That he just share it with you and then it'll 499 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 11: be cool for me. 500 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 8: But I can't tell you. I can't let the world 501 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 8: some secret. 502 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: You can't just. 503 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 8: Is it more important? Is it more. 504 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 4: Important for you to make your unique mark on the world, 505 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: or is it more important that on your dying day, 506 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: your deathbed, that you know that there's ten biz marquis 507 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: like disciples that are. 508 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 8: Going to die. 509 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 12: I'm kidding, You're gonna be yours? Could you put it? 510 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 8: All right? 511 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 12: Just go back to Harlem's. 512 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 10: His house burning down, You got him dying, He's still 513 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 10: not giving it up? 514 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 8: What alright? Being flashy like Oh, I thought you was 515 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 8: gonna tell nobody. God, it'd be like that Twilight Zone 516 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 8: when that lady said I want that dude said to 517 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 8: the lady, don't never tell nobody or the Devil's gonna coming. 518 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 13: Maybe did not tell you? Alright, alright, alright? So in Harlem, when. 519 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: Did you first started collect You got your first record 520 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: when you was what the forty five? 521 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 8: It wasn't it wasn't hip hop. I just got yeah, Ben. 522 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: You gotta start somewhere. So when did the bug hit 523 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: you that yo? I was it DJing first or was 524 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: it mc and or box? All right, now I know you. 525 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: I want you to set the record straight on the 526 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: who was the first cat that you heard? Or are 527 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 4: you that first cat? Who's the first cat to go 528 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: on record to say, this is the beat box. 529 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 8: The first, the first one I heard besides me, Yes, 530 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 8: with Dougie. So doug is the original human beat box. Yeah, 531 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 8: that's the first one I ever. 532 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: So where does Buffy fall in line of Buffy? He 533 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: was just the first to. 534 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 8: Get to everybody's from different places. 535 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 12: Buffy was from Brooklyn. 536 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 8: That's why me and a Dougie and Buffy never sound 537 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 8: the same. Is from different places, so you would never 538 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 8: know I'm fromand I'm from Patrick, I'm from like you 539 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 8: from Philly, I'm from like country Hockens. You don't even 540 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 8: you don't even count that in Philly's son. I'm like 541 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 8: from Hershey, Pennsylvania. I don't even count. Keep it real, all. 542 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: Right, but I'm just saying that, you're so. At what 543 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: point did New York start to do this cross cultural 544 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: colonization where a queen's cap We'll go to Brooklyn with 545 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: no beef, and Brooklyn would come to Long Island and 546 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: well the way outside the parents moving. 547 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 8: Okay, the way I started, uh back in eighty two, 548 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 8: I was handing out fliers for Mike and Dave, you know, 549 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 8: Mike and Davis. No, Mike and Dave had they had 550 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 8: a label, but they had cruise like the Crash Crew. Okay, 551 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 8: Master Dawn, Boogie Boys, Dougie, Rob Bass, all of us 552 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 8: started Fat Man's School. All of us started from under them. 553 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 8: They used to hand We used to you know, you 554 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 8: want to be on they be an artist? Yeah, they 555 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: do all. They was like one of the big promoters. 556 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 8: So we had a I used to hand our fliers 557 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 8: for them, and then I just watched and learned and 558 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 8: learned and learned. 559 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: So is this where the basis of vapors verse came in? 560 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 8: To play with the basis of the vapors verse came in? 561 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 8: Is I was on my block and the kids down 562 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 8: the block had a crew. I wanted to be in 563 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 8: the crew, but I always had to be and my 564 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 8: parents were strict, so I had to be in when 565 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 8: the light was out. So I always asked cand I 566 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 8: be down. And since I wasn't the cool cat and 567 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 8: I wasn't smoking and I wasn't drinking, no, you. 568 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: Can't be down. 569 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 8: So I went back into the lab and try to 570 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 8: get his best at best I can, and doing that, 571 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 8: my time came vapors. 572 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 4: He made the vapor effects ladies in Jon't so I'm 573 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: noticing the pattern that all musical savants and and and 574 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: icons are either legacy kids of parents that were musicians 575 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: or people that had to follow Richard pryor heavy ass home. 576 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 8: Parents in the street lights. 577 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: Come on street light, Yeah no, no, no messing around. 578 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: So under under that crew, were you d j M 579 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: first or or you said you were be boxing first? 580 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 8: Be boxing and rapper like I used to snap on people. 581 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 8: I was always a funny guy, like shitty Shannati. Your 582 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 8: nose is snotty. Every time I see you, you're begging somebody. 583 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 8: But if you're egging, you're begging, and your humming, you're bumming. 584 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 8: Good God, oldmighty. I hate to see you coming my 585 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 8: drop moment, Biz, markeyla and gentlemen. 586 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: Actually, Premiere just hit me, he said, ask Biz, between 587 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: you and Big Sugar from Gangstar, who would win the 588 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: snapping contest? 589 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 8: Come on? 590 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 14: He saw what I did to him, and then Prima 591 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 14: also followed up that if this says now, you know 592 00:35:52,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 14: how I do tell Biz he's lying, He asked prem. 593 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 8: I said, uh, I said something something something something something, 594 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 8: and then I told him I told uh Big Sugar 595 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 8: he had a hip hop starter kid. 596 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: On them with being n XL. 597 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 8: He said that, yeah, any and I was on tour 598 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 8: with Gangstar Rest in Peace, you know. Yeah, we was 599 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 8: on tour in Japan and. 600 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: He told he told me that, and then you proceeded 601 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: to stay. He said that the most amazing thing of 602 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: that Japan tour was the fact that you were the 603 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 4: first cat that he saw ben shopping and then you 604 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 4: somehow managed to have the promoter paid for all your 605 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: shipment back to the state, and that the shipment was 606 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 4: actually more than the records. Wait talk about the van now, see, 607 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: and I hate this whole like my generation and when 608 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: cat's be like, hey, what's up o G because I 609 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 4: feel like we're all all the same hip hop generation. 610 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that, it's like for when all right, 611 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 4: So for my layer of hip hop, DJ Premier's van 612 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: was like the be all end all van to test 613 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: your music. I'm gonna get to you, bus, I'm gonna 614 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: give you the credit. Biz looking at it. This got 615 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: his guns out a ray like give me credit. 616 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 8: I was. 617 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 12: I can tell you a story about that though. 618 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 4: But yes, when Premiere told me, yo, dog, this was 619 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: the first cat I saw. 620 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 8: MPV, Yes V, Well, can I tell your story. Yes, 621 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 8: tell me, well, can I put the fireside chat? We 622 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 8: got yes, And now they had some my boys from uptown. 623 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 8: And I think y'all saw the movie payd to Full. Yes. Well, 624 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 8: I used to hang with a Z. I used to 625 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 8: hang out Poe. I used to hang with rich Porter. 626 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 8: Rich Porter was one of the flyest dudes known to 627 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 8: man to this date. Okay, right, So he had an 628 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 8: MPV first, right, I said, Yo, man, what is that? 629 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 8: Blah blah blah. So I sat in there with him. 630 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 8: We talked for about an hour half an hour. The 631 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 8: next day I went to got two of them. I 632 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 8: got I got a expensive I had money had you? Okay? Right? 633 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 7: Right? 634 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 8: Right? 635 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, what'ts an MPV? Oh it's a. 636 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 8: Multi purpose family? So what I did? 637 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that because if I already asked 638 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 4: that business bill would have been like google it. 639 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 8: Right. So so I got B one and I got 640 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 8: cool V a blue one. So but with minds, I 641 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 8: put like twelve thousand of system in there. You got 642 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 8: thinking eighty nine. That's a lot out of money. 643 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 4: Why didn't get a jeep like everyone else? 644 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 8: I want to get it to be different. 645 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 4: Okay, so it's it's like a cool ass Socca pop then. 646 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 11: But I had everything in it, but it had an 647 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 11: error when like cool dudes used to drive. 648 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 12: I had that casette, everything in it. 649 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 8: I never heard of a player in a car. 650 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 4: Google that only because Primo had one that I believe 651 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 4: this story because yeah. 652 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 8: So at the time, I mean I used to see 653 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 8: Primo blah blah blah blah, and he saw my joint. 654 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 8: He got one, but then he got one with deep 655 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 8: dish rims. And I say, yore because I had black, 656 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 8: I had black and chrome BBS's and he had the 657 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 8: deep dish joints. 658 00:39:52,160 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: I said, yo. All right. So from be boxing and 659 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm always gonna go back in time, So from be 660 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: boxing too to DJ SO rap next. 661 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, because I had to make records. 662 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 4: But when I first heard of you was Deth fresh 663 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: school with Roxanne be boxing. 664 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 665 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: So how did the whole Philly connection with Pop Art 666 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 4: Records and Lawrence Goodman and all that happened? 667 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 8: What happened was Shante made Roxannes revenge. Okay, so Tyrone 668 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 8: Williams and Marley and them hooked up with Lawrence Goodman 669 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 8: in them. 670 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 4: Okay, Lawrence Goodman the maybe yeah. 671 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 12: Yeah, he was a tough dude. He was tough to 672 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 12: him and his brother. 673 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 4: So was there ever a nice guy in the music 674 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 4: industry like all the black guys if we put Lawrence 675 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 4: Goodman should knight, Uh, all of them. 676 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 8: Was cool with me. But I'm just saying. And then 677 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 8: at the time, I wanted to make a record bad, 678 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 8: so I got on with Chante and my thing, my fame, 679 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 8: my claim to fame was the tape from be from 680 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 8: Roseland with Chin That's yes, it's it's then I got 681 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 8: Then I made the record with Chante, and then I 682 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 8: was begging Lawrence Goodman, Yo, I want to make a record. 683 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 8: Blah blah blah blah blah blah. 684 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 4: What was the de Chante record? What year was that? 685 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 8: Eighty five? Yeah? 686 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 4: So wait they used to play that Roseland tape on 687 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 4: radio up here or. 688 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 8: Yeah what mister Magic World World Permit Permire All right? 689 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 4: Who who is that? A World premire permit? That's him, right, 690 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 4: that's him? Yeah, Okay, do you have an original copy 691 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 4: of that world I actually doz Yes, I would love 692 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 4: to get sharing his Karen, I would. 693 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 8: Share that with you, but I'm not telling you the 694 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 8: name of the what I'm finding that drum to see 695 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 8: one way or another? All right, this way, I'll bring 696 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 8: it out. I'll let you see it you now, if 697 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 8: you get the name of it, i'll show you brand. 698 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 8: I show you it, but I can't tell you in 699 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 8: your faith and on the air. 700 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I get it, I get it, I get it. 701 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 8: I get it anyway. 702 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, so based on that, actually, wait, can I 703 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 4: play that for a second, the Live routine with Biz 704 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 4: You got it? This is yes, this is Live Routine 705 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 4: with Bizmarky by mc shann. 706 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, okay, we're ready to rout you ready shan 707 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 8: started off and tell them who we are. I want to, 708 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 8: I want to, I want to. I want to. 709 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 15: I like to introduce myself, my namic, bizmar keep you 710 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 15: and that's MC champion and Molly mob and missing a 711 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 15: medic can't pick spot top and my mac Flordia. 712 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 8: And my seat am I mac Harmony. 713 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: And Sun Bram. So we're gonna do. 714 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 8: A litt I like. 715 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 4: Simple Okay, I have a question, Bis, and you're b 716 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 4: boxing technique because you're definitely. While while it is most 717 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 4: b boxes, their kick and their snare both had the 718 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 4: same range you're like in your mind, are you playing 719 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 4: a rim shot? Like what like I know for like 720 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 4: for you going to be. 721 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 8: Or shot and my bass is different my bas is 722 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 8: Like so you were hum with the B box huh? 723 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 4: You you were hum with your your your kick jump 724 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 4: to give it extra. 725 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 8: You know how you want to give it that extra 726 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 8: sound like right, So I was looking at it. I 727 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 8: was looking at it as an eight a weight, so 728 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 8: you know how the eight awight got. 729 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is at least with with with 730 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 4: the human bet Box from the Fat Boys. I always 731 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 4: heard him and Ducky for that part emulating and Piece 732 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: the President. So when b boxes do they're doing, what 733 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 4: is the beat? What is the break in your head 734 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 4: that you're emulating when you're. 735 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 8: I'm trying to get as close to the record as possible. 736 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 4: Which record though, what's the record in your head that 737 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 4: you're emulating? 738 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 8: Which record? Because you don't do. 739 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 4: In Piece of President like breaks you do like. 740 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 8: No, I go, I W. 741 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 4: I rarely hear you do that break. So I'm saying, 742 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 4: and plus you're the first bat boxer I know that 743 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: rhymed and be boxed at the same time. 744 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 12: That was I wanted to be different, So. 745 00:44:54,120 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 4: You are different, let me know. So okay, So when 746 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 4: deaf Resh Crew came out, and this this was an 747 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 4: era where hip hop was still quasi regional, that in 748 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 4: school you could bite some ship and claim credit for 749 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 4: it and live with it. Now, I think I got 750 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: away with that meow mix, so all the white kids 751 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 4: in school thought I was the ship. Like me, I'm 752 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 4: mixed like that was always the thing, like And then 753 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 4: like maybe seven weeks later, then I got busted and 754 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 4: was like, all right, you know this, it's my key, 755 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 4: But like, how how you know? 756 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 8: What? 757 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: At what point do you do? You transfer to rapping 758 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 4: and getting with Marley, And. 759 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 8: At that time I was with them, so I was 760 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 8: keeping quiet as a rapper. I'm just happy to be down. 761 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 8: So once they gave me my chance to make a record, 762 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 8: already already had records written. 763 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 4: And why does everyone start off as a DJ in 764 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: this crew? Like even Cain started out as a DJ. 765 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 8: Well, Caine started out as as my partner rhyming because 766 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 8: I had to show him. I had to show him 767 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 8: stage presence. I showed him different styles, I showed him 768 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 8: how to be on stage. You know, if there's something wrong, 769 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 8: you know, to go to the next rhyme. It's like 770 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 8: you drumming, right, if you break a stick, you know 771 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 8: to go to you know, to go to the next 772 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 8: you know, to go to the next stick? Yeah, how 773 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 8: to keep it moving? 774 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 4: So where do you where do you get your experience from? 775 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 4: Because you know, you grew up in the era where 776 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean now it's even harder because it's like, unless 777 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 4: your YouTube song has ten million views, it's really hard 778 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 4: to capture people's attentions us. Your songs just larger than life, 779 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 4: Whereas back then you had to have actual, genuine talent and. 780 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 8: You had to be witty. 781 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 4: Right, So what what was it like going on in 782 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: these states? Like what if you were whack? What would happen? 783 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 12: No, Hamburger is everything at you? 784 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 4: I seen why Hamburgers. 785 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 8: Everything. I'm gonna tell you. It was the time we 786 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 8: was on tour. I was on tour with Salt Pepper, 787 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 8: Fat Fat boys. Everybody. They had this lady trying to 788 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 8: be do another rendition of I Ney Love. Oh no, 789 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 8: where what territory? We was in North Carolina? Greensboro. 790 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 4: Wow, they hit away all down? 791 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 8: Everything changed? Yes and stand up? 792 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 4: Are you proud of this? 793 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 8: Yeah? 794 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 4: That's by all the times where I grew up. 795 00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 8: I grew up greens Boro. 796 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that, but you're. 797 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 8: Proud of Did you ever throw a hammerger an. 798 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: Them? 799 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yep, I'm proud. Wait Queensborough, that's where my family. 800 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 8: Are you serious, dude? 801 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 4: Like grandparents have like nineteen brothers and sisters? 802 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 8: Yes? Oh god? What's your family last? 803 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 9: Please tell investigate ancestry dot com. Let's get on it. 804 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 8: Wait. 805 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 4: Speaking of North Carolina. Uh, In the fifth anniversary of 806 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 4: the Source magazine, there's a story they're kind of doing, 807 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 4: like an oral history of like just hip hop tales, 808 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 4: and I forget who it was, but there was an 809 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 4: incident in North Carolina where your record collection save somebody 810 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 4: from y'all getting shot up or something. 811 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, not me. 812 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 4: I was in the room. 813 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 12: But check this out. 814 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 4: My man gave my fireside check. Hit the introduction, now 815 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 4: you ready, yes, hit it? 816 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 8: Okay? Now, my man Jeff and them there was in 817 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 8: the car. What happened was hot Dog that used to 818 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 8: be down with Chuck Rock. 819 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 4: I'm rocking the round. 820 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 8: Yes, well, they were trying to talk to these girls. 821 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 8: They were trying to talk to these girls, and right 822 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 8: something happened cop blocking I mean something happened. I think 823 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 8: once one of the dancers hit a girl. The girl, 824 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 8: the girl's boyfriends came up or something. It was my 825 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 8: man Jeff right here, Shante. All of them was in 826 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 8: the car. 827 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 4: But you know, I mean you. 828 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 8: DJ so you know when you pack your pack, Yes. 829 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 12: You know that long case. 830 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 8: Yes, I had a long case of twelve inches, but 831 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 8: I packed it them packed in them packed it well, 832 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 8: you almost can't even take it. Record the luggage. 833 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 4: If y'all in North Carolina, where's the luggage? 834 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 8: If all, it's on the bus. We're coming from the show. 835 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 4: So you have a bus. There's a bus and a car. 836 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 8: To know, the car is the runner that brings you 837 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 8: back to the hotel. I see, I see, Okay, So 838 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 8: they running and they to all these these country dudes 839 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 8: came out and my records was behind them and it 840 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 8: was like a station wagon. 841 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just didn't go through and all the 842 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 4: bullets bullets, the record got damaged. 843 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 8: Something in the way you make me feel with the 844 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 8: acapella feeling. 845 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 12: All right, gap band, we yeah trouble. 846 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 4: Did you just did you just ask me where the 847 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 4: records are? 848 00:50:52,440 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 8: Right? You got exactly you got twelve inches right, No, 849 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 8: come on, viz. No, they got them with the Chinese 850 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 8: chicken on the other side. 851 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I've seen those, but those are like reprints. 852 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 8: No, no, no, there they were reprints, but these was 853 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 8: the ones that was hard to find. These only downstairs 854 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 8: had them at the time. Okay, from back in the day. 855 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 8: They wasn't selling them no more. 856 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that was a fireside chat. 857 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 8: There wasn't. 858 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 12: There wasn't breaks and beat joints. 859 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 16: Okay, all right, the ones on Tough City right, No, 860 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 16: this is before Tough Sitting. 861 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 8: Okay. This is when they had They had the big 862 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 8: beat with the coolest back on the other side, the 863 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 8: green ones. Then they had the. 864 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: The Bozomigo ones. 865 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 8: They had the Bozogo records. No, I know they reprints, 866 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 8: but they ain't the Tough City joints from now, okay, 867 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 8: these are the ones from eighty one. 868 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I've had a few of those. Okay, I 869 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 4: get it. Yes, I didn't get it in Pizza President though, 870 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 4: but I have a few from those labels. So as 871 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 4: far as your album is concerned, like, how do you 872 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 4: what's what's the deal with the production? Was it just 873 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 4: strictly were you handing Marley these records? Did you not 874 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 4: an operated drum machine? 875 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 8: Did you? Okay, let me say, in the beginning days 876 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 8: like to make the music and stuff, Marley was master 877 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 8: the way he did. Uh Eric Beef president and all that. 878 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 8: He's by far the best now as I'm learning from him. 879 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 8: I got a twelve hundred. I think I was like 880 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 8: one of the first with a twelve hundred. Twelve hundred 881 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 8: or twelve twelve hundred. He had a twelve damn okay, 882 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 8: I got a twelve hundred from the dude from it 883 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 8: or akai one of right, So he first gave it 884 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 8: to me. So I came over with Marley ouse and 885 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 8: Marlly said, well what is that? That's what all sudden 886 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 8: Marley hold my doing for two weeks. He didn't want 887 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 8: to give it back, so we did. You know, I 888 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 8: usually I always look look for the crew records. So 889 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 8: I looked for kine, I looked for breaks. So what 890 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 8: I did was I hand Marley the records. He hooked 891 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 8: it up. I told him I want this, this, that. 892 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 8: Then after a while I started doing production myself. So 893 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 8: that's why I on the second album, I just did everything. 894 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 4: And so how did you separate from Marlee, Like, how 895 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 4: did you feel about the situation with Marley's stepping the 896 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 4: way and going to Uptown? 897 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 8: And no, Uptown was before Uptown was before us. But 898 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 8: I thought in eighty nine, male Marley just did one 899 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 8: record on that It wasn't there wasn't a separation. 900 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 4: Which record did he do? 901 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 8: The uptowns kicking it and stuff? He always did? He 902 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 8: always did. He did heavy d he did yeah, but 903 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 8: he always did random stuff to get you know, extra. 904 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 4: You know, Marley was Marley, so you know he didn't 905 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 4: he work on the Diabolical album, the second album. 906 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 8: I wanted to do my own album? Did he? 907 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 4: So he did nothing on that record? 908 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 8: Or I wanted to do my own album? He I mean, 909 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 8: he flew, he flew. Uh, you got what I did 910 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 8: vocal to the second thing. But I did everything myself. 911 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 4: So how did you? 912 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 8: A COOLVI did too? Okay, So how did you fall into. 913 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 4: That song? I mean, that song is probably the most 914 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 4: timeless song. That song will never die probably, you know, 915 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 4: when all said and done, and you know they're going 916 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 4: to do the Library of Congress, like five most important 917 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 4: hip hop songs. I'm certain that just a Friend will 918 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 4: be at least considered in the top ten, like whatever, 919 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 4: like the What. 920 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 8: Happened with that record was I was at a house 921 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 8: party in eighty two, right, so I'm hearing this dude 922 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 8: what I'm thinking, it's going, we don't name. So I'm 923 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 8: here to dude. I blew out that record, I said, 924 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 8: so I couldn't. The dude left the party and I 925 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 8: never found the name of the record. So I'm looking 926 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 8: and looking. I never found the record. So I told 927 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 8: Coovie and Big Daddy Can. I said, Yo, if I 928 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 8: find this record, boom boom, we on name, Yo, I'm 929 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 8: going plattinm we on knee along. So I was hanging 930 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 8: with Theodore. Theodore door brought me to Danny Dan's house. 931 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 8: So Danny, I'm you know, Danny cutting breaks, Danny Danny 932 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 8: beat man, he cutting breaks. All of a sudden, he 933 00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 8: throw that record on boom. I grabbed the phone, yelling 934 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 8: me and that man again. Yeah right, So I drove 935 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 8: over to his house. Right, I traded him Barbara Streiss 936 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 8: saying album. 937 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait what. 938 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 8: A birth of all? 939 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 12: Do you know the album that Barbara Ston got the break? 940 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 4: I mean, I know she didn't use there's there's no 941 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: she has a cover used me on seventeen b oh damn. Okay, 942 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 4: remember the song we worked side Beyonce wanted to cover this. Yeah, 943 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 4: like Beyonce and Barbara streisand we're going to do duet 944 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 4: with each other of Queen Bee and I produced it. 945 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 11: But then Real has a song called Queen Bee. 946 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, tell me that be. 947 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 15: There it is? 948 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, she she she did like a few funk joints, 949 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 4: like seventy three seventy four. 950 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 12: That was from the Stars Born movie, right, so this 951 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 12: is what this would happen in the movie. 952 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 953 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 8: So I knew that he didn't know that record, right, 954 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 8: so I went over there and traded him. So you know, 955 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 8: somebody he gave it a forty five. It's a dollar 956 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 8: forty five. 957 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 4: He getting an album? 958 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, but stress hand break. You understand hip hop if 959 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 8: you don't know something, So it would have been cool 960 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 8: just to were you using it for the purpose of 961 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 8: sampling it or you just wanted to have that record. 962 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 8: I wanted that record. I knew I was gonna make 963 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 8: a record off it, right. 964 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 4: So you couldn't just borrow the record or YO made 965 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 4: me get set copy of that record. 966 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 8: Not in hip hop trade. I did not know that trade. Okay, 967 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 8: So here's what happened. So a couple of weeks later, I'm, 968 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 8: you know, because we started to be friends. So I'm 969 00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 8: hanging with him. So he plays Freddy Scott. I said, 970 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 8: I like that joint. So he said, yo, man, I 971 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 8: don't got no more. So I gave him two hundred 972 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 8: dollars for the forty five what but look but. 973 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 4: He made it back so loved. 974 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 8: You gotta understand two hundred dollars at that time, I'm 975 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 8: making because I just came off tour with vapors and 976 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 8: all that. So I traded him two hundred dollars. That's 977 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 8: a lot of money. You think you got over right along? 978 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 8: So is this Dan Dan? We're talking about Dan. 979 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 4: So when Dan Dan's watching you on TV raps and 980 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 4: watching the Heineken commercial. 981 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 8: Then to beat Man, yeah, is he like, yo, those 982 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 8: are my record? 983 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 12: Like right? 984 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 8: So what happened was I went to my mom's house. 985 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 8: You know, usually after tour, so you know, you go 986 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 8: home see your family. So I'm sitting in my old 987 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 8: bed back in the day joint bunk bed joint. Yeah, 988 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 8: So I'm sitting in there and I just wrote, I 989 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 8: wrote uh, just a front in like fifteen minutes. So 990 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,479 Speaker 8: when we went to the studio to do it, because 991 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 8: we're doing the second album, I tried to match up 992 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 8: the Lee Dorsey and just throw the uh Freddy Scott 993 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 8: on top. But since the drum your drummer, you know 994 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 8: how a drummer plays too fast and to do it 995 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 8: and it wouldn't match. So we tried to put it 996 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 8: through the pumasan. If anybody remember a pumasan. 997 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 11: Me huh, first stumped the room. 998 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 8: Pumasan is something that you put in and you put 999 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 8: the records in so it could match, and then. 1000 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I think something. 1001 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't know what it was called. Yes, we 1002 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 8: use it. It wouldn't match. So what I did I 1003 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 8: had to do named Shane Faber and he helped me play. 1004 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 8: He played and we I said no. So I sat 1005 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 8: there for like from twelve to eight until he got 1006 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 8: the right piano sound. You know how you're on a 1007 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 8: keyboard and the right and the piano don't sound right. 1008 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, because you don't use that 1009 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 4: record in the on just a friend, that's the actual 1010 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 4: piano piano. 1011 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 8: So all of a sudden I'm telling him what to do, 1012 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 8: but he wanted to be jazzy. Don't do what I'm 1013 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 8: telling you what to do. Well, do they know it's up? No, son, 1014 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 8: play it like you hear it? So I'm sitting there, 1015 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 8: well time out to see you. 1016 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 4: That sound familiar? Uh yeah, OK, so you know it's 1017 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 4: the roots. 1018 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 8: Good look he's trying to get. I'm like, no. So 1019 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 8: it's like seven fifty nine in the morning. I feel 1020 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 8: like Gucci bags on them all saiden he found the 1021 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 8: right piano bang. 1022 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 11: Bang boo boom, bang bang bang boom. 1023 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 8: So I did it one pass and then we looped it. 1024 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 8: So I'm sorry. 1025 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 4: So and now the fireside chat, So who are the 1026 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 4: lyrics about? 1027 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 7: Who's the friend? Is that the guy who sold you 1028 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 7: the record? Because he had what you need? 1029 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 8: The video? 1030 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 12: I'm not uncle preaches. 1031 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 4: Now Tip says that Q Tip says that there was 1032 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 4: an original version of Just a Friend Speed. 1033 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 12: There was the q Tip. 1034 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 8: It was q Tip. All of them was doing Buddy, 1035 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 8: and they were doing Buddy before I came into the 1036 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 8: studio and he he he was there. 1037 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 12: When I sung it to them, they bugged out, but. 1038 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 4: They said the girl you must be on speed? Yeah, 1039 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 4: and they were like, yo, like change it and do 1040 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 4: the original. I did the radio okay, okay, it got 1041 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 4: a hair weave, and. 1042 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 8: It is just a wait. 1043 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,919 Speaker 4: Before I get to your next record, I gotta ask. 1044 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 4: So your ad libs are probably, I mean, next to 1045 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 4: Lottie Dotty. I don't think I've ever heard sampled a 1046 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 4: more sampled ad lib. Like, what are your general feelings 1047 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 4: when you heard the main ingredient. 1048 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 8: By Pete Rock? But Pete cool anyway, I know? 1049 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, like how do you generally feel? I mean, 1050 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 4: are you from the school of okay, Well, rappers can't 1051 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 4: call out or see other rappers for sampling their joints. 1052 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 8: Me and Pete was cool, so I wasn't thinking about that. 1053 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So now with alone again naturally tell us this story. 1054 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 8: Man, here's what happened with a timeout. 1055 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 9: Bill gives the now Fireside chatting number seventy five with Bismarcky. 1056 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,959 Speaker 8: What happened was, I did the record with a loan again. 1057 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 8: We got a verbal agreement from him, but my record 1058 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 8: company tyroneing them. They I guess the people call back 1059 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 8: up and they cursed Gilbo selvnder them out said we're 1060 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 8: gonna use it anyway. Wait, what why would they do that? 1061 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 8: I don't know, because here's what I used to do. 1062 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 8: When it came to samples. I would make, say, say, 1063 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 8: if the record got thirteen songs, I would make thirty 1064 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 8: nine tapes of every record that I use and we'll 1065 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 8: clear them through regions. At the time, it was we 1066 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 8: got a verbal agreement, but they didn't get up. They 1067 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 8: didn't get a what you call him agreement, so they 1068 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 8: put the record out any. 1069 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 4: Suda that's creaty. Wait, you will clear your own set. 1070 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 8: Like I would. I would set it up and then 1071 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 8: the office clears like I would have to record. 1072 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 4: Remember at the time, it was not CDs, it was cassettes, right, 1073 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 4: And I mean just in general, like, why do you 1074 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 4: think they were so resistant to. 1075 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 8: Because tyre on them cursed him out. Man. I mean, 1076 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 8: I don't want to say what they were doing. But 1077 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 8: you know what was fly T? 1078 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 4: I like, because that's you know, I mean he was. 1079 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 4: He was a key figure in the hip hop Patson 1080 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 4: that you don't pantheon, that you just don't. 1081 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 8: Fly Tie was great in the beginning, okay, great manager, great, 1082 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 8: but when the money and stuff came along, that's when 1083 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 8: what was. 1084 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 4: His connection, Like why did y'all choose him? Was he 1085 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 4: Marley's guy or he was Magic's guy? We all came 1086 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 4: through magic and that that that just reminds me of something. 1087 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 4: BDP would routinely shot you, shout you out. 1088 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 8: I was cool with everybody. 1089 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 4: You were like, what's not favorite nations of Switzerland? Yeah? 1090 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, the Pope? 1091 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 5: Wow? 1092 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 12: So the pope grew up together? 1093 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,440 Speaker 8: So so how would. 1094 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 4: How did your crew feel with you being neutral with 1095 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 4: both sides and how do they feel when seeing you? 1096 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 4: And like, yo, we ain't talking about you were just 1097 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 4: talking about magic. 1098 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 8: They wouldn't they wouldn't talk because what happened with the 1099 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 8: magic situation? Care wrest of them had a rec called 1100 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 8: twelve forty one. Success is the word. They came in 1101 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 8: and tried because if you if you get your record 1102 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 8: play on Magic, your record means a lot. At the time, 1103 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 8: he was like the hip hop Frankie Crocker. So they 1104 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 8: came in the studio and they let Christenham let them 1105 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 8: hear the demo of twelve forty one, and the record 1106 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 8: wasn't good, and you know magic in them. You know 1107 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 8: at that time, if anybody know from the eighties, I 1108 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 8: was getting high time you in the studio, and you 1109 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 8: know they laughed them out, so I guess they went. 1110 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 8: They left with the tail between their legs and then 1111 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 8: they went and wrote South. 1112 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 4: Bronx and all that. So the record was I thought 1113 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 4: it was Evans. 1114 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 8: I thought it was success. Success is the word? Can 1115 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 8: we play? 1116 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 4: Have you guys ever heard? I think we played it 1117 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 4: on on the mall. 1118 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 8: Ye we did the wrong It was we did advance. 1119 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 8: Oh we did advance. 1120 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because I'm gonna play like three seconds of 1121 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 4: successes the word you can hear what got pre pre beady? 1122 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 8: So there's a pink Foy slamp. 1123 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 12: It's bed nice. 1124 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 8: On start. 1125 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great radio movie. 1126 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 11: It's about eighty degrees. 1127 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 4: Outside traffic on the g w B. Wait, Charis Woman's 1128 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 4: on some jazzy Jeffers. Yeah, that's got to take the way. 1129 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 4: I love thy pebbles. 1130 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 8: You're going to. 1131 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 4: Wrap my rapt prier put the mare in the train, 1132 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 4: but my raples. What you want to do? 1133 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 8: Oh my god, Paris too the wow big. 1134 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 4: Now you know more music about the sock mother Soucker. 1135 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 8: Now I'm not felling magic. 1136 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 12: Get them listening to this ski you up and anything. 1137 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 8: I've held all of them there, So listen to that. 1138 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 8: What would you do quest if you was magic in 1139 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 8: them right there? 1140 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to go come on, Wow, I feel 1141 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 4: like Chris O's But yeah, the state some flowers for 1142 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 4: this of them, because that's what made him. That's crazy. 1143 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 4: I've had this record for ten years and never heard 1144 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 4: this first time I'm listening to it. 1145 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 8: There's a reason for that. 1146 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 4: I can't hear what I said. 1147 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm on a lot of drug medication right now 1148 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,719 Speaker 7: from but did I hear Gilligan's Island? 1149 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 8: Just checking? 1150 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 4: But at that time, everybody was doing routines like the 1151 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,560 Speaker 4: Fat Boys enforcing these did it to find effect? Do 1152 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 4: you remember that the Fat Boys meet the Force? 1153 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 8: Someome dan O? 1154 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 4: No, that Shi was a hitting Philly Philly. 1155 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 8: Philly gave me my start. I love Philly Dancing on air. 1156 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 8: But that record wasn't the yo. 1157 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,560 Speaker 4: I gotta say, wait, the siety the Garrett episode. I 1158 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 4: said that that Facts of Life episode was the first 1159 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 4: thing I recorded on the VCR Biz Marquee on Dancing 1160 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 4: on the Air where Roxannehante was the second thing I 1161 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 4: recorded im doing the bus dance. Yeah, you were you 1162 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 4: were past going going past your recording career, you've also 1163 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 4: managed to you know, do crazy collaborations throughout your time. 1164 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1165 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 4: I was going to say that you co signing and 1166 01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 4: sticking with the Beast Boys, especially when most UH people 1167 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 4: were kind of indifferent to the genius that is Paul's 1168 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 4: boutique and check your head and all that stuff. Yeah, 1169 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 4: I was going to say that you co sign from 1170 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 4: Hart and like that that made a difference to them, 1171 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 4: and they always always always spoke of you in the 1172 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 4: highest regard. When I red tour with them, What was that? 1173 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 4: What was that period like when you. 1174 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 8: Were is what happened? I think they sued rustling them 1175 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 8: and won. And I think it was at a time 1176 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 8: when I guess they were trying to at the time 1177 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 8: people try to black ball people, and at the time 1178 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 8: they I looked at them as brothers. I steal records 1179 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 8: from them. They steal from me and you know, you 1180 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 8: know records. When did you first meet them? I met them? 1181 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 8: Remember D from What's the TV? We went over there, 1182 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 8: went over to the studio. I mean, I knew episode. 1183 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 8: That's the first time you met him? No, I think 1184 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 8: I met him a little bit before, but we wasn't 1185 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 8: hanging okay, you know what I mean. You know you 1186 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 8: meet Yoda, so Bull your tribe, Wow and the BC Boys. 1187 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 8: It was me and the BC Boys versus Bull. He 1188 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 8: was playing basketball right. 1189 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 4: Time out Bill hit it and now another episode of 1190 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 4: what had happened was. 1191 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 8: All right, good, now some. 1192 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 4: Big jiga, the real big. 1193 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 8: So we playing. So we're playing, you know, basketball, I'm 1194 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 8: filing people everything like. So after we got done, we're 1195 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 8: playing the Mark Marky Mark, that was down with him. 1196 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 8: We're playing the piano, so Mark keyboard. It's not just 1197 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 8: like you. It's a whole bunch of people thinking right, 1198 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 8: but you're you're the conduit. 1199 01:11:59,800 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 11: Right. 1200 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 8: So he played records from when I grew up. So 1201 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 8: he's playing like jab was a fool from And I'm 1202 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,600 Speaker 8: singing every single record that they playing, you know what 1203 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 8: I mean, like a Magan wold Man use a yeah 1204 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 8: so la. So I'm singing blah blah blah. All sudden 1205 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 8: he started playing Benny and the Jets Toe to To. 1206 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 8: I started singing it, y'all. We was there for like hours, 1207 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 8: Do it again, do it again? Then they put it out. 1208 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got that. 1209 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:42,920 Speaker 12: I got that. 1210 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,719 Speaker 4: That's that would be one of my fire five I purchased. 1211 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 4: I purchased twenty copies of that Grand Royal Whitties magazine 1212 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 4: with your floppy record in it. So and then that's 1213 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 4: why I started okay instead of here. 1214 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 8: So so what happened was, you know, after that, we 1215 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 8: just started just playing with stuff and I would just 1216 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 8: come out there, hang with them, stay with them, and 1217 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 8: we just started doing just magical stuff. Like I would 1218 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 8: be at my house and I heard something because I 1219 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 8: used to like Ted Nugent. 1220 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I was gonna say, how that tech 1221 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 4: Nugent collaboration happened? Was that separate? 1222 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 12: That was separate? 1223 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 8: I just think Jesus. I called them from the phone, right, 1224 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 8: and I said, Joe, I got something for you. It's 1225 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 8: like y'all getting out of jail or something, right, So 1226 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 8: I got something for you and he said play it. 1227 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 8: So I threw the record on and I said, et 1228 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 8: damn dumb man, y'all. I played that for like eight hours. Yo. 1229 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 8: I said this is for you, Yo, Pichon want to 1230 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 8: give you this, And I said, nah, we come on, man, 1231 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 8: we're cool, come on, don't worry about it. After that, 1232 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,600 Speaker 8: we started just doing different things. Do Brad dude do. 1233 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 8: So then they just took me on tour with them. 1234 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 8: So it's like I was like Billy. 1235 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 4: Preston, you were Billy Preston to their fee, so you. 1236 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 8: Know, and then they showed for them. They showed me 1237 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 8: a lot of things. I didn't know how to conduct business, 1238 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 8: how to save for a rainy day, how to whatever, 1239 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And plus I used to 1240 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,639 Speaker 8: take them sneaky shopping. I took them to a store 1241 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 8: and knew had every old school sneaker, but at the 1242 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 8: time it was great closed down and every procads everything 1243 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 8: was that dollar. 1244 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, wow, so their fashion shiit comes. 1245 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 8: We backed up, but we backed up a big truck MPV. 1246 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 8: I used to bring them they I used to bring 1247 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 8: them to jew Man. I used to bring them different spots. 1248 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 8: But then they used to bring me stuff. 1249 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 11: You know. 1250 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 8: We used to it was like brotherhood. 1251 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 6: During the coach tilling years, were you actually making money 1252 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 6: off the records like royalties or was it mainly just 1253 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 6: to a bunny. 1254 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 8: I was making money off the records because I was recording, 1255 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 8: and since I used to record in the house, you 1256 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 8: didn't really have to need that much money to use it. 1257 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 8: As a budget like I would get my budget, said 1258 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 8: my budget to be three or five hundred recording the house, 1259 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 8: I just gotta pay my engineer, pay cooov give him. 1260 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 4: Oh in house, I'm thinking of like a label studio. 1261 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 8: It's in my house. 1262 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 4: So so wait, so you recorded a lot of going 1263 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 4: off in home equipment. 1264 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 12: Going off or like a lot of that was on 1265 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 12: four track. 1266 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 8: Marley did that. 1267 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 4: So for Diabolical every house I was about to say, 1268 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 4: Monthfoot's vocal sounds like you were in a bathroom or nah. 1269 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 4: I could tell like natural but natural reverb sound versus 1270 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,880 Speaker 4: process reverb sound. Did you record muffoot in the house? 1271 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 4: What room your kitchen? 1272 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 8: No? Downstairs, the basement? I need a haircut. That was 1273 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 8: at the house too. That was grip Wow, all that 1274 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 8: was done at Coovie's house. 1275 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 4: Biz And who was this engineer? 1276 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 8: Sorry? Doc? But at first at first we had we 1277 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 8: had Shane, but then we went to Paul C. I 1278 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,560 Speaker 8: think Paul C. 1279 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 4: Give me Paul C stories. 1280 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 8: Paul C was one of the greatest engineers. You know 1281 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 8: how you're a drama No, let's listen. Yes, but the 1282 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 8: thing is, you know how you listen to He didn't 1283 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 8: listen to the pads. He would do it on the 1284 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 8: numbers and then hit the button and the record to 1285 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 8: be done. Really, he was at the best. 1286 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 4: I didn't even think you worked with I was gonna 1287 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 4: ask you, did you know Paul C? I skipped I 1288 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 4: skipped Latin Cord of Stories and. 1289 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 8: You look no engineered, Kim. I traded Paul C. 1290 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 4: He he worked on your records, Yeah, my second album. 1291 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 8: I did not know that, he he he. I traded 1292 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:28,799 Speaker 8: him Coolest Back Albums sealed. 1293 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 4: There's a funk in corporated sealed copy of Coolest Back 1294 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 4: that's not reissued from. 1295 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 8: Real damn that whenever we if I come, I'll bring 1296 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 8: you one. I'll give you one. 1297 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 4: Okay, So I get that and what else? 1298 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 8: Keep going? 1299 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 12: Let's so I traded him. 1300 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 8: I traded him Coolest Back Albums, right, and he traded 1301 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 8: me Hercules right? Okay? 1302 01:17:53,680 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 4: Hercules Aaron Nevil's just translation. Steve paul C was the 1303 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 4: U of the mid eighties to late eighties, but the 1304 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 4: cool white engineer that hung around a lot of black dudes. 1305 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 8: Nobody was better than him. 1306 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 7: On a twelve hundred that that collected, he sounds more 1307 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 7: talented than me. 1308 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 8: Actually, there's to be nobody better than him. Rest the 1309 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 8: Beech he was nobody bad. I mean. 1310 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 4: Company passed away. When did he pass away? He passed 1311 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,879 Speaker 4: away because I know he's on the back. 1312 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 8: Of what the rhythm hit him. I think that's why 1313 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 8: rest r ip he. I think he passed away in 1314 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 8: eighty nine. I think I was the last one he 1315 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 8: was recording with. Something happened. I mean, I tell you. 1316 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 4: Off, Oh, it's like some be I thought it was like, 1317 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 4: you know what, he didn't have no beef. 1318 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 8: It was just the point of people could looking for somebody. 1319 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 4: Oh, man, ship one place a long time. We work 1320 01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 4: at thirty Rock. We're saying safe man, I did not 1321 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 4: know you worked with the great Paul cy. 1322 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 8: Damn. 1323 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 4: So he was just like what was it about his 1324 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 4: production technique? Was the fact that he's shop stuff. 1325 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,599 Speaker 8: Put his way. You know how. I think we played 1326 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 8: at the House of Blues. Remember I was I was 1327 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 8: sick at the time we played the house. I lost 1328 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 8: my voice. You remember when you did Mardi Gras. Yeah, 1329 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 8: you know how you have the funk? He just had 1330 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 8: that funk. Was he a musician? He was something? 1331 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 12: He was everything son, he was everything. 1332 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 8: So how you do see Paul see you see laws professor, 1333 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:52,600 Speaker 8: Professor Policy Production. That's with Paul mcs paulsy mccasty. 1334 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 4: Incredible son dous he got any other stories like I 1335 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 4: feel like there's. 1336 01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 8: Go ahead to ask whatever you want. 1337 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 9: And now tails from the Latin Quarter. We have been 1338 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 9: in the Latin Quarter that everybody comes on the show 1339 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 9: delivers a Latin Quarter story. You might as well, bis 1340 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 9: what's your best one. 1341 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 8: Best one Latin Quarter k r rest Battle of Melle mel. 1342 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 4: Everyone has yeah, from like five different someone talked about people. No, no, no, no, 1343 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 4: no no. 1344 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 8: My best story is cash money coming to Latin Quarter 1345 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,599 Speaker 8: and and killing it here. I'm gonna tell you what happened. 1346 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 8: Paradise has this Paradise has this Phelas suit on. He 1347 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 8: had I think he wore like seventeen consecutive weeks, and 1348 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 8: he had a big ass silver rope right you know 1349 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 8: when you win. So they got a big ass silver 1350 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,559 Speaker 8: rope right to check it out. So he said, Yo, 1351 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 8: this guy says he's just he's better than Jazzy Jeff 1352 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 8: and blah blah blah blah blah. Here is cash money. 1353 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 8: He set up that you set him up like a 1354 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 8: five heart beat. 1355 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 4: Heart beat and they better than their temptations put together. 1356 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 4: But thegether, we should see the right. 1357 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 8: So so they bowing, they bowing. They cast money at first, No, 1358 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:28,599 Speaker 8: this cast money by himself? What so cast started? What uh? 1359 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 12: And with a piece of president. 1360 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 4: He started doing top billing. 1361 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 8: What just too? I'm looking like So after a while 1362 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 8: I already knew cash money because hanging Philly, Yo, he 1363 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 8: burnt it down so bad everybody wanted to hang with him. 1364 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 8: He was like that kid on the block that the 1365 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 8: only kid that had HBO or atari And you'll be 1366 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 8: asking your mother, did you stay over there? And I 1367 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 8: go with you? I go with Derek House and he 1368 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,719 Speaker 8: burned it down. That was That was one of my best. 1369 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 8: And another another story was when when people used to 1370 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 8: get robbed. Okay, what what? 1371 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:18,640 Speaker 6: What? 1372 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 8: What is your uh? 1373 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 4: Haitian Jack story? Jack was cool with me, but I 1374 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 4: hear that the folk lord for those who don't know, 1375 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 4: I hear that Haitian Jack was the guy that has 1376 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 4: the most collections of hip hop gold chains. 1377 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 8: And it's a lot of them like that you have Jack, But. 1378 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 4: I heard Jack has like you know, he has rock 1379 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 4: kmsty and it's slick Rick. And I heard that he 1380 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 4: had about to say that, Okay, he was rick. 1381 01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 12: Rick or bust you. 1382 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 8: We know this. I was there when that shootout happened 1383 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 8: in the Bronx at the Castle. Hit me world is bomb. 1384 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 4: And you got wait what happened? 1385 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,560 Speaker 8: Here's what happened. They were outside of the Castle. I 1386 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 8: think he had an argument with what's the castle? 1387 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 4: The Castle? 1388 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 8: You know, the Castle was a club in the Bronx, 1389 01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 8: and I think he was with some guys and I 1390 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,759 Speaker 8: don't know if they were trying to rob him or whatever, 1391 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 8: but they were just shooting across from car to car. 1392 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 4: So wait, you're in this era and you know you 1393 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 4: just castle him into the gum like at no point 1394 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 4: is it just with you? Is it like they haven't 1395 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,600 Speaker 4: a shootout or. 1396 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 8: Is just like. 1397 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,600 Speaker 4: Actually, to be honest with you, viz when you on 1398 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,759 Speaker 4: the show, I actually came up with the sound effect 1399 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 4: just for you or. 1400 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 12: The yo what they were busting? 1401 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 8: Like my man Ralphie got shot in his eye like 1402 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 8: this now on damn. 1403 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:13,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 1404 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 8: They had a lot of They had a lot of 1405 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 8: They had a lot of good fights that in quarters though. 1406 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 8: You they had this dude coming from Connecticut. He was muscle, 1407 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 8: had a tank, he's gonna start talking dancing with dudes 1408 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 8: from Brooklyn Girls and everything. He's not worried all sudden 1409 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 8: that record came on. They got on him like they 1410 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 8: got him, like Bee, I wonder how much money could 1411 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 8: you get? One of the probably got you saying that 1412 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,840 Speaker 8: whenever what comes on you, it was time to keep 1413 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 8: by uh uh Funky by Ultimate net Wow really sets 1414 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:12,720 Speaker 8: them three. 1415 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 7: So you just knew. 1416 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 4: Instantly that when those records come on, like somebody Jane 1417 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 4: trying to get you for your Jane. 1418 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 8: No, I stang with them. 1419 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 12: I used to get them in. 1420 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 8: So your approach was befriend them or but I was 1421 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,280 Speaker 8: friends with them before records. So yeah, so I'm you know, 1422 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 8: I'm with them. I used to borrow money off them 1423 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 8: from stuff like the real fifty cent, the real fifty cent, 1424 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 8: the real fifty cent from Brooklyn. She stick up am 1425 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,640 Speaker 8: the car in the daytime and all that. I mean, 1426 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 8: And you weren't afraid of if we friends. I mean, 1427 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 8: you got people around your way that's gangster friends. You 1428 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,439 Speaker 8: don't have people that's gangster that you. 1429 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I put it on the show. Yeah I'm talking 1430 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,640 Speaker 4: about these are real gangs. I know. 1431 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:08,800 Speaker 8: It's just my. 1432 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 12: People what they toes out with timberlands and stuff on. 1433 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,919 Speaker 8: This was real gangsters, supreme, All of them was real gangsters. 1434 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 4: So wait, can I ask how many uh uh Dapper 1435 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 4: Dan outfits do you have? And what was the copying 1436 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 4: adopt a Dapper Dan outfit? How long would it take 1437 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 4: from measuring to here's your outfit? 1438 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:44,639 Speaker 8: Well, I used to hang with that, so about half 1439 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,600 Speaker 8: half a year, half half a half hour? Wait? What what? 1440 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I gotta bring them. I gotta bring them. 1441 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 4: I can call them right now. 1442 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 8: No I haven't. Haven't. 1443 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,000 Speaker 4: I have a dapper damn jacket. 1444 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 8: He made me one. But but it takes a half hour. 1445 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 8: I'm thinking you said measurements? 1446 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 16: No, but like how long would it take from like 1447 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 16: how long would it take from to make it to Wow? 1448 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 4: Because even googling you, you have some ill dapper Dan stuff. 1449 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,679 Speaker 4: I've never seen nobody you know got. 1450 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,439 Speaker 8: Up. I used to sit out there. I was out 1451 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 8: there when Mitch Green got punched by Mike Mitch Blood. 1452 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 12: I was sitting right there with my what dapping them? 1453 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 8: You were there when sending what It was. 1454 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 12: Early in the morning. 1455 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 4: Bow, So Michigan fores out there? You know, I know 1456 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 4: who is you know who's dapper damn like. 1457 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 11: Exactly design all the outfits with the m c M, 1458 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 11: the findy and ain't know about for everybody. 1459 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 8: You do me pajamas and everything I've seen. 1460 01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 4: I feel like you have more crazier dapper dance up. 1461 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,759 Speaker 4: And where is that stuff now? Is it in the storage? 1462 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 4: It's next to that beat machine that you can't see. 1463 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 4: Where do you keep your Where do you keep your artifacts? 1464 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,080 Speaker 4: Who preserves your artifacts? 1465 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 8: I play with them most of the time. 1466 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 4: Oh so you actually collect your artifacts? 1467 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,599 Speaker 8: I touched my joints and all my Johnny Lightning cars, 1468 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 8: my AFX everything. 1469 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 11: But does that in a different place than the throwbacks 1470 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 11: because you got different collections of different things. 1471 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 8: Because I got my house next to me and then 1472 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,240 Speaker 8: I got my house. This is Marylands? When did you 1473 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,679 Speaker 8: move to Maryland ninety four? 1474 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:39,920 Speaker 4: Wait? 1475 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 8: What part of not Baltimore? 1476 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 10: No? 1477 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 8: Hell no? 1478 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 12: I mean I love Baltimore. 1479 01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 8: But boye okay, I have a question, biz. 1480 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 4: It's a little off topic, but every topic. 1481 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,840 Speaker 7: What's what's your favorite record store in New York or 1482 01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 7: and and also like what's your favorite record store in 1483 01:28:59,240 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 7: the world. 1484 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,799 Speaker 8: There's like a couple they used to have a store 1485 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 8: in Phoenix called Prickly Pair. 1486 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 4: Okay, and they had a one record Finders in La. 1487 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,559 Speaker 4: Do you on latch mount for the amount of records 1488 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 4: you own? Is it now just to the point where 1489 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 4: it's like I own them? 1490 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:24,920 Speaker 8: Or for you? 1491 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 4: Is it like, yo, I'm gonna make some of the 1492 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 4: funkiest records ever. 1493 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 8: Or is it. 1494 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 4: Trade off to something else? 1495 01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 8: Or is it. 1496 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,560 Speaker 4: You just want to live and listen to It's like you, like, 1497 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 4: do you utilize the stuff you collect? 1498 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 8: Now? 1499 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:47,080 Speaker 4: I'll admit maybe in the past ten years I've just 1500 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 4: been collecting and collecting and hoarding without even It's to 1501 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:52,839 Speaker 4: the point now where I won't even open. 1502 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,640 Speaker 8: The boxes that get shipped to my spots because I 1503 01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 8: look through some stuff to make sure they're in there. Now, 1504 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 8: you might buy something and it's from across seas and 1505 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,719 Speaker 8: you get it and it might be a brick in there. 1506 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 12: To make sure things is in there. So Iday with 1507 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,639 Speaker 12: my forty five, So you know what I mean? 1508 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 7: So are you are you more infatuated with the record 1509 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 7: or the music that's on the record? 1510 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 1511 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 7: Like, as do you collect the records because of your 1512 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 7: love for all the you know, the artwork and this 1513 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 7: that and the other thing, or the music that's on. 1514 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 4: It, the sound. 1515 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 8: You know, if you buy an album that you've never seen, 1516 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,839 Speaker 8: like you got white Orange? 1517 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 4: No, what's white orange album? Look it up? Loving this ship? 1518 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:42,680 Speaker 8: Look it up? 1519 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,880 Speaker 4: I just I mean, I could have told you from 1520 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,360 Speaker 4: the gatelight Hea that he will name like twenty things 1521 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,120 Speaker 4: that I will automatically have it. 1522 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,760 Speaker 8: No to look look it up right now? 1523 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:54,519 Speaker 12: You know, I'm not mad. 1524 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,479 Speaker 8: It should be an album sweets jes fusing group. Yeah, 1525 01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 8: it should be a it should be a white orange 1526 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 8: on it. What is it? 1527 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 11: The sweetest jazz fusion group? 1528 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 4: Maybe let me see the coming let me see the 1529 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 4: white orange. 1530 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 8: It's a white orange, yeah I do. I've never seen that. Shit? 1531 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,960 Speaker 8: What year is that? From? Nineteen eighty? All right? So 1532 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,760 Speaker 8: what about it? I just like the way they play 1533 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 8: on it. They play different than anybody else. The sounds 1534 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 8: is incredible. 1535 01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,960 Speaker 4: Hook me up, biz, I got you. 1536 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 8: I'm giving you, I'm dropping jewels, I'm giving you names. 1537 01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:33,800 Speaker 8: I didn't never know what that is. 1538 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 11: So at this point, you got every record that you want, though, right? 1539 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 8: Is it one? Right now? I mean, you can never 1540 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 8: have every record you want, but I'm close. I'm like 1541 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,599 Speaker 8: ninety nine point nine. What are you? What you're looking 1542 01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 8: for that you do not have? Like? What do you? 1543 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 8: What's your holy grail? I gotta get this record. It's 1544 01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 8: a forty five. It's the Sony Walkman commercial on forty five? 1545 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,080 Speaker 4: What I got one? 1546 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,519 Speaker 8: I'm just looking for another one. 1547 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 4: You notice this is probably the episode of Question of 1548 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,600 Speaker 4: Suprea that I've done the least sound effects on. It 1549 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 4: just stumps even me to even what are you looking for? 1550 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm looking for? You know what, Biz, 1551 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:24,800 Speaker 4: I'd be honest with you. I think I'm satisfied you guys. 1552 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,960 Speaker 4: You guys are slowly trying to lure me into this 1553 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:35,040 Speaker 4: forty five hole that I get. I think I understand it. 1554 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,080 Speaker 4: But if I'm honest, I think I'm trying to resist it. 1555 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,479 Speaker 4: What's your name? Is trying to pull me into it? 1556 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:42,639 Speaker 8: Natasha? 1557 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Natasha Diggs is really trying to lure me into 1558 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 4: this forty five uh sunk in place that I don't 1559 01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 4: know if I Because the thing is that when I 1560 01:32:55,439 --> 01:33:00,599 Speaker 4: when I commit to when I when I commit to collecting, 1561 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 4: I go super hard on it. And I think I'm 1562 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,680 Speaker 4: at the place now where I'm like, I'm satisfied. But 1563 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 4: but but but the thing is now I do I 1564 01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 4: do multi tracks? Multi tracks? 1565 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 8: We all did. 1566 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 4: Remember, That's why I'm going to talk to you this over. 1567 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 12: I just want to mixes. I don't care about all 1568 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 12: those stuff. 1569 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,600 Speaker 4: Look, I'm just saying, what are you. 1570 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 11: Trying to get? Is the trade going on? 1571 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,439 Speaker 4: We don't know about you? 1572 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,160 Speaker 8: Come on, we always The thing is, ever since I 1573 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,800 Speaker 8: known quest, we always talked about this. Here's the thing. 1574 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:43,719 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. What one item can you talk about 1575 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 4: that you know that you're not allowed to talk about 1576 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,160 Speaker 4: as far as. 1577 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 8: You owning something? I mean, I see that's the thing. You. 1578 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 4: I feel like there's basic level, basic pedestrian level collecting 1579 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 4: like Funky Jummer forty five or some real super obvious. 1580 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,440 Speaker 8: Then there's. 1581 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:09,679 Speaker 12: Multi drives you told about record. 1582 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,360 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just saying in general, like people have 1583 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 4: general pedestrian collective stuff that's you know, fair, you know 1584 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 4: everyone has. And then there's advanced level stuff that you 1585 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,120 Speaker 4: know that you might have to go to this particular 1586 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 4: country to get this specific mix. And then there's the 1587 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:34,720 Speaker 4: third rail level of like you know, you have some 1588 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 4: ship that someone gave you in secret, but you can't 1589 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,759 Speaker 4: share with the world ever, and it's like, Frank, Mmmm, 1590 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 4: you got that? 1591 01:34:54,600 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 8: Which which joint? Which joint? Before I let go multi 1592 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,840 Speaker 8: tracks for his sons? 1593 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,080 Speaker 4: Does he own his own multi tracks? 1594 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:25,120 Speaker 8: BC Boys was at Capital in the nineties. I mean, 1595 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:30,719 Speaker 8: but that's that's another story for I keep going. Another 1596 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,479 Speaker 8: thing I got from somebody, it's between us or wait, 1597 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,760 Speaker 8: we're on the air. I know you're saying out here they. 1598 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,360 Speaker 4: Can't find it. 1599 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 12: Bluesing Pants forty five? 1600 01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,439 Speaker 8: Really, no such thing. 1601 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:48,320 Speaker 4: I'll show you the picture. Wait, what country? What country? 1602 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,760 Speaker 8: It don't matter what country is direct, it's not an 1603 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 8: American person, it don't matter. It's the record. Okay, Blues 1604 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 8: and Pants? 1605 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 3: What is this? 1606 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 4: Not minutes? 1607 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,280 Speaker 8: I never knew there was. 1608 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,680 Speaker 4: It was a single, damn. 1609 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 8: Quest You still have the same number, right you? Picture 1610 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:17,519 Speaker 8: hit biz ladies and gentlemen. This was another episode picture. 1611 01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 8: Do you have like every ct I record? He will say, 1612 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 8: yeah them, Yeah, got most of them. 1613 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,840 Speaker 7: There's one that's sort of the holy grail CTI record 1614 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 7: that I'm trying to find. 1615 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,680 Speaker 4: He's going to say, yeah, he's never going to see it. 1616 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,720 Speaker 7: It's called It's called stone Bone by J and K and. 1617 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,920 Speaker 8: My Stuff. I got two trombone player. Guys. 1618 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 7: Uh, it's like, yeah, I think it was Japan only 1619 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:41,679 Speaker 7: or something. 1620 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,679 Speaker 8: You got Doom, David Matthews, I got you got doom? Yeah, 1621 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 8: Bob Jason World forty five, you got on one side. 1622 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:54,559 Speaker 8: I have a tenant. 1623 01:36:55,120 --> 01:37:00,680 Speaker 4: I have a tenants of nautilusts uh like not a 1624 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,680 Speaker 4: twelve inch but a tendancy tendency. I think I have 1625 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,559 Speaker 4: a tenants of Nautilus uh five. 1626 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,120 Speaker 9: For those listening, this is like the Okay Corral standoff 1627 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:16,840 Speaker 9: of record, like they're staring. There's so much amazing that another. 1628 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 4: One real real Yet to brag on anything I had, Honey, 1629 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 4: buys you anything right now? 1630 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:38,639 Speaker 8: But asley clip a real, real, real label. Oh, non 1631 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 8: Chuck Brown, I got it from Chuck brod used lived 1632 01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 8: down the block for me before he passed. 1633 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:49,840 Speaker 4: Non Sussex record. 1634 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,799 Speaker 12: Non, No, that's sauce. 1635 01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,639 Speaker 4: I have Ale Roads clip when they were on a sauce. 1636 01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 8: No, you bet you at thousand dollars sauce. No, you're right. 1637 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 8: You watched the made Source. I made a mistake. Its 1638 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:10,599 Speaker 8: on s Yeah. 1639 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,720 Speaker 4: Clarence Atabel, Yes, I don't have the forty five. 1640 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 8: I don't believe you know. I'm so exactly. 1641 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 4: You're wait paid in full break just. 1642 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 12: So I gotta see even better. I gotta see even better. 1643 01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,840 Speaker 8: You like it too, on a real twelve and forty five? 1644 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 8: What biz? No? 1645 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:41,000 Speaker 12: No, I'm I know. 1646 01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:41,680 Speaker 8: Look it up. 1647 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 12: I know twelve minutes right now, look it up right now. 1648 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,160 Speaker 8: This is I'm yo. You like it too, straight up? 1649 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 4: Look up for you. If they got a picture listening 1650 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,759 Speaker 4: and hearing me stumped and all this ship, it's awesome, 1651 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:57,840 Speaker 4: all this kryptonite. 1652 01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you. Look it up. Let me tell 1653 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,400 Speaker 8: y'all something twelve inch. 1654 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 4: I gotta get my powers back from Germany. We're gonna 1655 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:10,120 Speaker 4: do round two from there. This is I'm gonna get 1656 01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:10,639 Speaker 4: my power back. 1657 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 8: Heldo, SI making it up. 1658 01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 16: No, it's a real from Germany. Come on, son, okay, biz, 1659 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 16: what's this? 1660 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:19,880 Speaker 8: Oh that's easy. 1661 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 12: I'm going to make it real fun up for you, 1662 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,599 Speaker 12: all right, And I got forty five. 1663 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,320 Speaker 8: This is not mister mean. 1664 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:42,080 Speaker 4: Foster Silvers, mister Montain, huh uh, I know what it is, 1665 01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:42,599 Speaker 4: but I can't. 1666 01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 8: H uh. 1667 01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 4: Come, Oh, let's walking all right. That's if there's a will, 1668 01:39:54,400 --> 01:40:03,439 Speaker 4: there's a way by Don Coved Okay, all right, next yeah, 1669 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:11,840 Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, okay, I forgot that. I see. At 1670 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,680 Speaker 4: first I was going to pick the song you thought 1671 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 4: I was gonna do, and I was like, no, never 1672 01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,160 Speaker 4: got me with that. You got let me find that 1673 01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,679 Speaker 4: same a living. Another song is singing in the morning, 1674 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 4: Singing in the morning. That's funky. Oh sing in the morning. 1675 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 4: All right, I'll do one humble bred Oh. Wait, and 1676 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 4: now a humble Brad. I think it is basically it's 1677 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 4: quest now I'm not even going to play for it. 1678 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 8: This. Do you have funky worm stems? 1679 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 4: Do I got a funky worm? 1680 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:55,200 Speaker 8: I think I do the stems, my little fucker punk 1681 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:56,960 Speaker 8: the stems. 1682 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 4: I think I got funky Ohio players. 1683 01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,599 Speaker 8: Yes, I think I do. I gotta love, I think 1684 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,400 Speaker 8: I do. I think that's everybody got that. I think No, 1685 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:14,120 Speaker 8: I think about the real I think boys had that first. 1686 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,640 Speaker 4: It's like a sult mine, right, you guys have a 1687 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 4: special relationship with Armand and his son. 1688 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:22,599 Speaker 8: Look about. 1689 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,120 Speaker 4: No, not the forty five with the with the with 1690 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 4: the defensive. Yes, you're talking about the rare forty five 1691 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,120 Speaker 4: where they put you trying to play smart on I 1692 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 4: hate when they do that. Wait one of the one 1693 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,800 Speaker 4: of the side note Dylan side note. One of one 1694 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,160 Speaker 4: of the one of the greatest games of of of 1695 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:50,840 Speaker 4: who's on first between Dylan and I was when we 1696 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,520 Speaker 4: were clearing UH the samples. 1697 01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:53,519 Speaker 8: For the Light. 1698 01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 4: He tried to say funky one. He's like and funky 1699 01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 4: warmed by how players. I'm like, that's not funky worm. 1700 01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,400 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, it's fun I'm like, that's not funky worm. 1701 01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:02,719 Speaker 4: That's you're getting to be too smart. 1702 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,720 Speaker 8: And then they got too different. Both of them got 1703 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 8: the break on the right, but sound and break. 1704 01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,680 Speaker 4: Dylan didn't realize that at the time. So when I 1705 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,840 Speaker 4: finally got to Detroit and he played the forty five 1706 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,240 Speaker 4: for me like we were short of, like, yo, I 1707 01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,080 Speaker 4: bet you five hundred dollars, and then he played it. 1708 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit. 1709 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 8: And then both of them got them right. So Troy 1710 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 8: Emeralds and UH and Ohio, but that's just same soundings. 1711 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,880 Speaker 4: But I still consider that, you know, Detroit Emeralds and 1712 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:30,600 Speaker 4: not you know. 1713 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,760 Speaker 8: Nah, the two different records. Yeah, but they took it 1714 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,160 Speaker 8: from Detroit Emeralds. I don't know who they took it from. 1715 01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 8: I know it's on the record, but when you listen 1716 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,200 Speaker 8: to Detroit Emeralds break it still this way. Yeah, yeah, 1717 01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,519 Speaker 8: they just took it anyway. This is your last one? 1718 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,680 Speaker 4: Really are you now? 1719 01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 8: I say ship that's mel Mellow right on. Yeah, that's 1720 01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:57,640 Speaker 8: a distinctive. 1721 01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 11: Base suicide because I think I thought I had known that. 1722 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:04,160 Speaker 4: The only one didn't say anything. Next, Yes, this is 1723 01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:05,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'll play the. 1724 01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:08,360 Speaker 8: Mellow. 1725 01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:24,479 Speaker 4: Next is that he sounds like, yeah, I don't know, 1726 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:33,040 Speaker 4: oh wow, more steams than his orchestra from it's called 1727 01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,280 Speaker 4: the Long Wait. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 1728 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:42,439 Speaker 4: part of the Hawaii five soundtrack. There's your last one? Biz, Oh, 1729 01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 4: I know what that is? That's uh. 1730 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 8: I got the I got the record, I got the 1731 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,519 Speaker 8: forty five, I got the album. 1732 01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:49,360 Speaker 12: I got the album. 1733 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, Jay z. 1734 01:43:54,720 --> 01:44:00,360 Speaker 4: Eddie Henderson inside you? Is there any question of we 1735 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:04,920 Speaker 4: could just play who got? What's fun? 1736 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 8: Do we learned anything? 1737 01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,920 Speaker 4: Listen, let's just fast forward to the end. What did 1738 01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:10,559 Speaker 4: you learn today? 1739 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:10,960 Speaker 8: Man? 1740 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,599 Speaker 4: Because we didn't learn something, we gotta ask business. 1741 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:14,800 Speaker 8: We gotta do the second go around. 1742 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:15,800 Speaker 4: Man, What do you learn? 1743 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:20,080 Speaker 6: Is like dude, like he's like the master collector of 1744 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,080 Speaker 6: like everybody, and like any record that you want to 1745 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:23,439 Speaker 6: know is. 1746 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:23,840 Speaker 8: Like you got. 1747 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,920 Speaker 4: I feel like there's a question that we're forgetting to ask. 1748 01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,760 Speaker 4: It's gonna be like Captain obvious. Once, Oh okay, I 1749 01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 4: found out I've got to ask. 1750 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:34,599 Speaker 8: About Yo Gabba Gabba. But go ahead. 1751 01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 4: What did you learn? 1752 01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 9: I learned that I could listen to Big Markey talk 1753 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,880 Speaker 9: for many hours and I'm totally with matter of fact, 1754 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 9: while were added, give let's talk about children's music. 1755 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,160 Speaker 4: I know about that, and so the same. So yeah, 1756 01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,680 Speaker 4: how did you how did you get involved with the 1757 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 4: Yo Gabba Gabba camp? 1758 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 12: What happened with Yo Gabba Gabba? 1759 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,559 Speaker 8: They asked me to come in to do the dancing dance, 1760 01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,400 Speaker 8: but the night before I dj in l A and 1761 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,120 Speaker 8: you know you standing up for like five six hours 1762 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 8: you tied. So I was lazy, and so I just said, Yo, Christians, 1763 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,200 Speaker 8: while I make them, why don't teach the kids how 1764 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 8: to do the beat box? I named it biz Beata 1765 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,479 Speaker 8: today and then we did it. They put that on 1766 01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 8: the on the pilot and then they got an old 1767 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,360 Speaker 8: woman response and they put me down. 1768 01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,080 Speaker 4: Are they still actively shooting stuff for it? They and 1769 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:28,720 Speaker 4: they arguing with. 1770 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 11: Because earlier about your Gabba Gabba getting you all the way, 1771 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,360 Speaker 11: well not getting you to Japan. But getting you to 1772 01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 11: the techniques to get the special turn in. 1773 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:42,080 Speaker 8: Because anybody wants to give make their kids happy. 1774 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,280 Speaker 11: That's what I was going to ask you. How many 1775 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,920 Speaker 11: opportunities has that opened up for you in a different ways? 1776 01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,639 Speaker 11: You never would have thought being on the Kids show 1777 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:49,080 Speaker 11: opened up this door. 1778 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 4: I think she meant more career goals and kids knowing 1779 01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 4: you're not just I always play with kids. 1780 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 6: I love kids anyway, Yeah, I always just even sitting 1781 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,040 Speaker 6: there listening to you talk like you're a walking like 1782 01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,960 Speaker 6: cartoon characters that have you ever done any of that 1783 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,000 Speaker 6: or had any opportunities? 1784 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,479 Speaker 8: I did Strangebob once. I did a couple of things, 1785 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,880 Speaker 8: but you know, I'm musically driven. 1786 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 4: So what was it like doing Men in Breack? Like? 1787 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:26,599 Speaker 4: I saw the premiere screening of it, and I'll say 1788 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:30,960 Speaker 4: that you got a bigger response than Michael Jackson he did, 1789 01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,680 Speaker 4: because when Michael Jackson was shocked, like, oh he hit it, 1790 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 4: But when they saw Bizz like, the whole audience was 1791 01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 4: whoa Like you know. 1792 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:42,639 Speaker 8: Like what happened was Jeff wasn't going out with Will 1793 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,600 Speaker 8: at the time, and he was doing all the albums 1794 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,800 Speaker 8: and Hidden Beaches right right, So Jeff said Jeff and 1795 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,320 Speaker 8: Will said, Yo, why don't you be DJ? So I 1796 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,679 Speaker 8: started going out with Will, so I was hanging around. 1797 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,559 Speaker 8: I hung around the set one time and Tommy Lee 1798 01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,280 Speaker 8: and said, Yo, why don't you get your man to 1799 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 8: do the B box and you'all talk together and that'll 1800 01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 8: be a scene. Wow damn, I said, thank you, Will. 1801 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 8: They're the greatest. 1802 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,520 Speaker 12: Jeff is the greatest. 1803 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 8: I love him. 1804 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:19,040 Speaker 12: That's my brother. 1805 01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,800 Speaker 11: I take a bullet from what's the craziest evolution you've seen? 1806 01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,320 Speaker 11: Because a lot of the folks that you came up with, 1807 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,000 Speaker 11: just like you, evolve crazy like. But like looking at Will, Jeff, 1808 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 11: looking at so many Latifa, like whoever you looked at 1809 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,120 Speaker 11: and went like shit, I just would have never but 1810 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 11: just dope. 1811 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:40,479 Speaker 8: Flash just that, I mean, just think of the records 1812 01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 8: he found. Would hip hop be like that if he 1813 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:49,760 Speaker 8: wasn't here? True? Not even I mean Bam Bodies, Bamboda 1814 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,280 Speaker 8: did or did or but Flash. 1815 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:55,920 Speaker 4: So flashes at the top of the pinnacle for you. 1816 01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:57,600 Speaker 4: As far as Flash. 1817 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 8: The El Brothers, just think about it. We all eating 1818 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:05,960 Speaker 8: I mean, you play. 1819 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:14,280 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, wait, you mentioned the Ol Brothers. What 1820 01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,439 Speaker 4: crew from back in the day? Who I mean, who's 1821 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,600 Speaker 4: the ultramatenetic from back of the day that are like 1822 01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,760 Speaker 4: pioneers that will not get the dude credit. I'm talking 1823 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 4: from the original Eric. So you always hear about he 1824 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:33,360 Speaker 4: Cold Chuss Brothers and the Funky four plus one, like 1825 01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,679 Speaker 4: they always named these crew, But who's that one crew 1826 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:40,920 Speaker 4: that had like ill routines, ill techniques that didn't get 1827 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,200 Speaker 4: there just Dan. 1828 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,920 Speaker 8: Even though they had records Master Dawn crash crew. 1829 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:53,400 Speaker 4: I had boilers Dog, but I forgot them first round ever, 1830 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,600 Speaker 4: bit I hate that. I'm not a room see be 1831 01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,800 Speaker 4: like first Round. All my cities first round. 1832 01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:06,760 Speaker 8: I've ever been that first speed rap? Talk about it 1833 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 8: if I can think about it. Oh yeah, the crash 1834 01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:14,400 Speaker 8: is three too. Yeah, it's just the point of I'm 1835 01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 8: just happy to still be alive to watch what's going on. 1836 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,040 Speaker 8: Come on, you're the roots but you biz no, no, 1837 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,479 Speaker 8: no this listen one to get ready tell you you 1838 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,400 Speaker 8: DJ did the White House? Listen forget? 1839 01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:33,280 Speaker 4: I mean forget later. Yeah the first time. Wait, this 1840 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 4: is a funny story for you. So we're at I 1841 01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,439 Speaker 4: forget what event it was that was? No, no, no, 1842 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 4: the first time I went to the White House correspondence dinner. Oh, yeah, 1843 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 4: and I was begging to be the DJ, and they 1844 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,479 Speaker 4: were like, no, we can't because you know, we got 1845 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:56,200 Speaker 4: biz And I was like, come on, man, so business spinning. 1846 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,840 Speaker 4: And he puts his record on I never heard before 1847 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:03,360 Speaker 4: I and as a DJ, and I'm looking and suddenly 1848 01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,360 Speaker 4: he puts this record on and I swear it's like 1849 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,760 Speaker 4: you remember the scene. I'm giving an old reference, but 1850 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:10,960 Speaker 4: this is the only way I could describe it. You know, 1851 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 4: it was like three o'clock and the brown Hornet comes on. 1852 01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:13,840 Speaker 8: And like. 1853 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 4: All of them, but you know, you remember, I'll explain 1854 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,280 Speaker 4: that every everyone just stopped what they were doing and 1855 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:26,719 Speaker 4: instantly ran to the dance floor to start doing the wobble. 1856 01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:34,280 Speaker 4: But it was like Rachel maddowt it was like the 1857 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:39,880 Speaker 4: white wobble, like white people do, like stop and I 1858 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,680 Speaker 4: didn't know it, even like Torrey was like leading this 1859 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,479 Speaker 4: line and I never heard the record before. I'm like, wait, 1860 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,160 Speaker 4: what's this and vin Bis looking like you never heard 1861 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:50,959 Speaker 4: of the wobble? 1862 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:54,639 Speaker 11: You had never heard of the okay, right. 1863 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,640 Speaker 4: It was like maybe maybe two months old, and not 1864 01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:05,600 Speaker 4: just wasn't on it, but I was. I was like 1865 01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,000 Speaker 4: d C ship or whatever, because at the rate war 1866 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,639 Speaker 4: to knew the dance, and I was like, damn, I'm 1867 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,599 Speaker 4: funked up in the game because the wobble. 1868 01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:20,200 Speaker 6: It goes every fan reunion, every wedding reception, a Cuban shuffle. 1869 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:23,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, those lying that like black folks, I. 1870 01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,120 Speaker 11: Mean, you're right, start south and Midwest. 1871 01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,880 Speaker 4: But I was just that the attendees of the White 1872 01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:34,640 Speaker 4: House correspondence like not only knew the dance, but like, 1873 01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,520 Speaker 4: because wait to do today everything. 1874 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 8: It's so nice to be I'll be right back. 1875 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 4: That was That was That was a crazy moment. 1876 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,120 Speaker 11: You cut off business compliment. I just worry about notice compliments. 1877 01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:58,160 Speaker 7: You want to hear compliments, compliment what you learn I 1878 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,600 Speaker 7: learned that he's better than you. 1879 01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:04,200 Speaker 4: Pretty much. 1880 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,120 Speaker 8: A lot of ways, sug. 1881 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:17,519 Speaker 7: I have one more question, though, there's this Crieff like a. 1882 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:27,320 Speaker 4: Lot hold on. Yeah, wait, ladies, Steve Stevens he said under. 1883 01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,600 Speaker 12: The Louis, yeah you have that. 1884 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,479 Speaker 8: You have Wait did you say to two or true? 1885 01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 8: What do you say? 1886 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:45,120 Speaker 7: The Bob James joint came in came in that too, right, Okay. 1887 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,280 Speaker 7: I've been scouring, like even. 1888 01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 8: I couldn't find that for Steve, and I've been looking 1889 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 8: for Yeah, it's very like. 1890 01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 4: First of all, not a lot of people know about it. 1891 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,160 Speaker 7: And second of all, they must have made like ten 1892 01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,439 Speaker 7: of them or some ship because they're they're not around. 1893 01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 8: Like you can't find you got I think we had 1894 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,719 Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. A lot of things ain't. 1895 01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 12: Gonna be around. 1896 01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't. 1897 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,560 Speaker 8: It's not it's not. You gotta think if you was 1898 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,160 Speaker 8: shopping for records in the eighties in the nineties, everything 1899 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:11,679 Speaker 8: was around. 1900 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,920 Speaker 7: This came out in eight is when, but it was 1901 01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,760 Speaker 7: it was a promotional thing where like I got it. 1902 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:23,920 Speaker 8: From Iole, from rat I stole it from BLS because 1903 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,280 Speaker 8: they had w w r L and b LS update 1904 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,240 Speaker 8: what I say say so not w b LS. I 1905 01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,600 Speaker 8: love it. 1906 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,400 Speaker 7: You just took it from a radio station, both of them. 1907 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:34,439 Speaker 7: From the radio station. 1908 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:38,120 Speaker 4: Steve hasn't been as excited ever, you know. And it's funny. 1909 01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:43,400 Speaker 4: There's always in every hip hop producer's story, there's a. 1910 01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,880 Speaker 7: Straight hold on a second, can we trade something? 1911 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:52,639 Speaker 4: There's my phone? Take this, it's first born. There's always 1912 01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:56,000 Speaker 4: a radio station that you rated all them colleges that 1913 01:53:56,120 --> 01:54:01,200 Speaker 4: they always has that one intern that I was super 1914 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,559 Speaker 4: nice too. That was just like I don't care about 1915 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 4: these records, you can go through them. 1916 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:10,800 Speaker 8: And that's time to get the records eighty. Because it 1917 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,519 Speaker 8: was the transition period to the season. I was wow. 1918 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:24,800 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, let's I mean, Steve has been 1919 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:29,439 Speaker 4: in quite a pain for this episode, but the second 1920 01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 4: for his whole life. The second that Bissan mentioned that briefcase, 1921 01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 4: it was like, Lazard, you remember another old reference when 1922 01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 4: Warning McFly came to life once his parents kissed at 1923 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:52,840 Speaker 4: the champ angel and he started playing. That was the 1924 01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,440 Speaker 4: all right, boss, Bill, what did you learn? You learned 1925 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,880 Speaker 4: that this episode is going a half hour overboard? 1926 01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:00,360 Speaker 8: I looked too long. No no, no, no, no, no 1927 01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:00,440 Speaker 8: no no. 1928 01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 10: I kind of want to co sign with Steve said, 1929 01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,040 Speaker 10: I've been shopping record for records with you. I think 1930 01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,240 Speaker 10: I want to go with BIZ next. Okay, yeah, that's 1931 01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,680 Speaker 10: that's the case. Do you still go records out? 1932 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:13,800 Speaker 8: Let me see it? Nah? 1933 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 11: Exactly, it's he said, he got ninety nine everything that 1934 01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:19,800 Speaker 11: he wants. 1935 01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,480 Speaker 8: Right, Okay, come on, quest even if you come out 1936 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,320 Speaker 8: and make a case to DJ withold what records you 1937 01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,400 Speaker 8: really looking forward that you got to find? Right now? 1938 01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Biz, I think I'm satisfied. 1939 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,720 Speaker 8: I I'm good, A good. 1940 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 4: Yes I have. I have about one hundred thousand records, 1941 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,600 Speaker 4: and I'll say that of those hundred thousands, I know 1942 01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:46,560 Speaker 4: that at least a good nine hundred are like ultra 1943 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,920 Speaker 4: ultra special. I mean the rest is like, you know, 1944 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 4: do I really need all the high energy records from Motown? Now? 1945 01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,120 Speaker 4: Do I need like dance all night by the Parts? 1946 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,080 Speaker 8: No? On? People? Do you got to show enough? 1947 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,640 Speaker 4: I know I have every People record ever you got? 1948 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1949 01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:13,480 Speaker 4: Oh sweet, signed in the wicket? 1950 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:14,200 Speaker 8: You got forty five? 1951 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,120 Speaker 4: Show up, dude, you got the forty five justin Timberlake Joint? 1952 01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:19,120 Speaker 11: Do you have the forty five? 1953 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 8: I own it? How do I own it? 1954 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,840 Speaker 4: I do not have a forty five? I think, No, 1955 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,120 Speaker 4: there's not a record I know I own show. 1956 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:33,360 Speaker 8: Once. 1957 01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 4: Justin told me that record for Suiting, Time, Suit and Tie. 1958 01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:38,120 Speaker 12: I knew the record when I heard it. 1959 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:42,240 Speaker 8: Yes, I own that record. I don't know which configuration 1960 01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,240 Speaker 8: I own it. I got to forty five, but I 1961 01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:48,200 Speaker 8: know I know people. One is the purple people. 1962 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,080 Speaker 4: There's a wait, there's a white there's a white label. 1963 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:55,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I do own one. Jesus, did I just tell 1964 01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,000 Speaker 8: you read and they got a purple didn't hear the 1965 01:56:58,040 --> 01:56:58,360 Speaker 8: red one. 1966 01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I know I have a white label, sure enough, 1967 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 4: but also you know I cheat because I know Alan leit. 1968 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:09,240 Speaker 4: So literally, he's just give me all this, James Brown 1969 01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:09,520 Speaker 4: over it. 1970 01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:14,120 Speaker 8: Just do you got Champ? You know Champs? I have 1971 01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:19,800 Speaker 8: that on the album. I don't have a Atlantic Records, No, 1972 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:29,840 Speaker 8: Steven still man, we are all very very disappointed. Man. 1973 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:31,880 Speaker 8: I learned. 1974 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,000 Speaker 11: I learned that a mind has never been polluted by 1975 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:37,640 Speaker 11: weed is a powerful thing. And this is your memory 1976 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,120 Speaker 11: is like fucking remarkable. I hope there's no book biz. 1977 01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,520 Speaker 8: They want me to do a book, but what was wrong? 1978 01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:47,760 Speaker 8: I'm still singing, so you know I ain't no Unsung yet. 1979 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 11: You gotta do it, Unsung, write a book. People a 1980 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,240 Speaker 11: lot Russell write books like every two years. 1981 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:57,400 Speaker 12: So one thing, go ahead, question you got this back? 1982 01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 8: Then if you get money and you go to a 1983 01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,320 Speaker 8: record shop and you get him, you get him A fifty. 1984 01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,880 Speaker 8: Didn't let you look through anything. Take you to the back, 1985 01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 8: They take you, take you to go underneath. Okay, what 1986 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,320 Speaker 8: your way? I knew voalshively, you know that right fucking real? Yes, 1987 01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:17,040 Speaker 8: he's let me go in the basement, go to his 1988 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 8: house and everything. 1989 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:21,840 Speaker 4: I would never get past the letter d Voal Shively 1990 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:23,520 Speaker 4: is the guy that was like mean to us, and 1991 01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,280 Speaker 4: then he found out who my dad was. 1992 01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,960 Speaker 8: It was like, welcome to my store, offer me a job. 1993 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:33,440 Speaker 8: Now I don't want it, all right, So all right, 1994 01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:35,800 Speaker 8: this is what I'm proposing, and this is what you 1995 01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 8: don't know biz. All right. 1996 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:41,880 Speaker 4: So I'll say for the last four months, me and 1997 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:47,120 Speaker 4: practically all the heavyweights and hip hop production, from Pete 1998 01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:53,240 Speaker 4: to Primo to j Cole to Ninth Wonder to just Blaze. 1999 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,880 Speaker 8: To uh forgetting people. 2000 01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 4: Not nots to Fortain. Yeah, Harrison, J Harrison is, stro Elliott, everyone, 2001 01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:08,000 Speaker 4: Jeremy Ellis, Everybody's in this. This tip Swiss beats. 2002 01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:08,960 Speaker 8: All right. 2003 01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:13,760 Speaker 4: So I started a thread and we dubbed ourselves. We're 2004 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:17,200 Speaker 4: like a brotherhood of nineteen cats, and we dubbed ourselves. 2005 01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:25,800 Speaker 4: Asked Vaughan got here, No, literally the the yes, besides 2006 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:30,080 Speaker 4: we can catch it. Yes, yes, Peanut butter Wolf is 2007 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,640 Speaker 4: talking right now. Literally, I'm on with like all twenty 2008 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:36,640 Speaker 4: two of them with asked one. Wait, okay, he says, 2009 01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:41,480 Speaker 4: oh wow, okay, this is the last question I'm gonna 2010 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:48,320 Speaker 4: ask you. They I'm proposing a special BIZ episode of 2011 01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:54,800 Speaker 4: of Ofquest Love Supreme, in which if I can coordinate 2012 01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,560 Speaker 4: the twelve ask one East Coast members to do the 2013 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 4: show where they literally lee grill Biz on story because 2014 02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,320 Speaker 4: they're still like and I'm telling him like yo, he 2015 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,560 Speaker 4: really does as it's forty five. Okay, here's your final story. 2016 02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 8: Biz. 2017 02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:13,360 Speaker 4: You have to ask business from Rashott Smith. 2018 02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,640 Speaker 8: I know the story. I know this story. Wait, let 2019 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:26,840 Speaker 8: me read it. Let me read you gotta actually read 2020 02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:27,280 Speaker 8: it though. 2021 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,760 Speaker 4: Yes, mother, I'm my own goddamn radio self. 2022 02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:32,440 Speaker 8: All right. 2023 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,680 Speaker 4: Rushott Smith says, you have to ask Biz about the 2024 02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:42,080 Speaker 4: luth Evanrels Madison Square Garden story on now he got 2025 02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 4: a beat from Luthor to come to beatbox for on 2026 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,120 Speaker 4: stage at the garden. True or false? 2027 02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:53,480 Speaker 8: True? That was when I had just a front out 2028 02:00:55,360 --> 02:01:00,960 Speaker 8: and we was both represented by BURTA. Dell Ah So 2029 02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:06,000 Speaker 8: Burke Padell was the one that asked me, you go 2030 02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:07,800 Speaker 8: get up there. You know, if you get up there 2031 02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,760 Speaker 8: with Luther, you know you get some of his fans 2032 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,920 Speaker 8: and this and that. Would you do? 2033 02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:13,560 Speaker 11: Did you I do something together? 2034 02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:24,680 Speaker 8: I just did Ladies and Jent. Look that up. 2035 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:27,120 Speaker 12: If you I can't look at it, I mean I'm 2036 02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 12: saying look and see if that be. 2037 02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:33,640 Speaker 8: And Luther van jos was both represented by Burke Padell 2038 02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,360 Speaker 8: I or you looking at it right now? Now he 2039 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:39,640 Speaker 8: was in accounting right, Bert was. 2040 02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:48,720 Speaker 4: Okay, but if I can organize and ask one session. 2041 02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:49,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, take them all on. 2042 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,520 Speaker 4: I want to see you pull off this. 2043 02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:55,680 Speaker 11: I got this, got get him on video statings you 2044 02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:58,720 Speaker 11: can put in the group. I'll take all y'all motherfuckers. 2045 02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:00,720 Speaker 12: And I put them on. I get in the group. 2046 02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:00,920 Speaker 8: Two. 2047 02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,400 Speaker 11: Oh my god, you ain't got to work to he's 2048 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:05,600 Speaker 11: got to work to get in the group. 2049 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:08,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you can only hold twenty two people, and 2050 02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:17,560 Speaker 4: we accidentally had to boot Diplot off the supposedly anyway, 2051 02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:20,400 Speaker 4: all right, so I have you a video right now. 2052 02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,920 Speaker 4: So you're saying to the Askan crew that they're allowed 2053 02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:24,880 Speaker 4: to come and grill you. 2054 02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:28,680 Speaker 8: Whenever you want to. I'm gonna grow you up back too. 2055 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 8: Don't leave your feelings at the door. I'll tell you 2056 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:42,760 Speaker 8: got a hip hop starter. So Rush, I got stories 2057 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,560 Speaker 8: about him too, And I remember when Q Tip used 2058 02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:48,720 Speaker 8: to be in high school at Mary Bertram, I know 2059 02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:49,200 Speaker 8: all that. 2060 02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:49,760 Speaker 4: All right. 2061 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,680 Speaker 8: Anyway, it's gonna be like the Battle of Oil. See 2062 02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:55,480 Speaker 8: this is all ladies and gentlemen. 2063 02:02:55,600 --> 02:03:01,520 Speaker 4: This is a very special, special special special episode of 2064 02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:05,960 Speaker 4: Business Markey's Quest Love Supreme only on vandor on behalf 2065 02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:10,800 Speaker 4: of Sugar Steve and uh Fan Tigelow and Boss Bill. 2066 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,080 Speaker 8: And You're going to have business on Sesame Street one day. 2067 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's He's the new Joe Roposo right there. 2068 02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:20,640 Speaker 8: Yes, I said the street. 2069 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,480 Speaker 4: This is part of our new idea. Five people, I did. 2070 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 8: This is all right? 2071 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:31,560 Speaker 4: All right, business down and uh, I'm Phil, I'm I'm sorry. 2072 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,400 Speaker 4: Well you're paid, Yeah, well paid. 2073 02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:39,600 Speaker 8: And Martin he did. Yes, you did awesome. 2074 02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:43,960 Speaker 4: Bus fantastic, thank you, thank you for your time. 2075 02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:46,680 Speaker 12: Yes, you did awesome. 2076 02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:49,480 Speaker 4: And just to watch us away from our sins off 2077 02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:55,400 Speaker 4: this dude one, I wait, thank you man, I appreciate you, 2078 02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:56,200 Speaker 4: all right. 2079 02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:03,680 Speaker 1: What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 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