Speaker 1: And now moving my mic back, you're like that.
Speaker 2: You can strike head borders behind him and.
Speaker 3: If you're just tuning in the civic sacer around your
Speaker 3: host rams this Joh he is Joh, I am q Ward.
Speaker 1: She is maggieby knowing.
Speaker 3: She are saying excited, big shot out maggiby know and
Speaker 3: she put together a good show for us this week.
Speaker 3: A lot more to stick around for, so please do
Speaker 3: just that. We're going to talk a little bit more
Speaker 3: about kind of where we left off there some police accountability,
Speaker 3: the value of police, and really what what we think,
Speaker 3: uh you.
Speaker 1: Know, in terms of we're gonna be fair though, because
Speaker 1: we're sorry you said police accountability and I just couldn't
Speaker 1: help it. I'm sorry. That's it's this is the place
Speaker 1: for that. We're gonna be fair. We're gonna be as
Speaker 1: fair as we will man.
Speaker 3: But we're also going to look at how government institutions
Speaker 3: look at policing and the disconnect between our lived reality.
Speaker 3: We're also going to talk about the origins of policing
Speaker 3: for our way Black history. Fact for those that don't know,
Speaker 3: policing comes from slave times, you know, as it turns out,
Speaker 3: So stick around for all that but first and foremost,
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Speaker 3: we'll do this thing together. Now moving on, why can't
Speaker 3: we live? And where is the real accountability?
Speaker 1: What a question? Right? That's that's that's that's one for
Speaker 1: the ages. So I wonder if we'd said that instead
Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter, if they would have come up,
Speaker 1: they would actually slow, they would have figured it out,
Speaker 1: and you know, and opposition to that one, they would
Speaker 1: have figured it out. Man.
Speaker 3: Listen, babe, we are not up against forces that are
Speaker 3: uninformed or unintelligent. These are people that are master manipulators.
Speaker 3: They know how to twist the narrative. They you know,
Speaker 3: I was watching something about Tucker Carlson. Not to go
Speaker 3: off on a tangent here, but he was having a
Speaker 3: conversation with a student, and his advice to the student was,
Speaker 3: you know, get married and have lots of babies.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And as you know, the great replacement theory is something
Speaker 3: that's largely pushed on the right where white men in
Speaker 3: particular feel like they're going to lose the numbers game
Speaker 3: quote unquote, and they feel that it's a concerted effort
Speaker 3: by Jewish people who have coordinated with black and Hispanic
Speaker 3: folks to shift the numbers away from a white majority
Speaker 3: in the country. Not that nature does that, because you know,
Speaker 3: if you look at it through a scientific lens, it's nature.
Speaker 1: Maggie, Maggie, I don't know if she can answer us
Speaker 1: because she doesn't have a mic. Did you get the
Speaker 1: email for the invitation to the Jewish minorities pilgrimage to
Speaker 1: erase white people as on? Like, I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's a firm note they send civic cipher. No, no,
Speaker 1: no they didn't. I didn't get that either. It wasn't
Speaker 1: on the website that they would get a pamphlet at
Speaker 1: the po box. No, if they did, you know, this
Speaker 1: would be the place where we would share it with people. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, I would have loved to have done a
Speaker 1: show live from place conference or trades or whatever you
Speaker 1: would call such a thing. It's it's it's but you
Speaker 1: see what I mean, there are these.
Speaker 3: Uh they make these boogeymen out of thin air, and
Speaker 3: they do a great job of scaring their constituents and
Speaker 3: their listeners into taking action against forces that are not
Speaker 3: even they don't even exist in a shared reality. And nobody,
Speaker 3: nobody's counting. Nobody's like, okay, we need to have more
Speaker 3: babies so that we can have the number. Like what
Speaker 3: that that feels? So it's like hustling backwards because then
Speaker 3: what exactly we got to take all these babies?
Speaker 1: Right? So anyway, because our government sure goes out of
Speaker 1: their way to help us support all these babies.
Speaker 3: Right, thank you Q for pointing out the obvious. But
Speaker 3: that narrative is so entrenched. This is the the narrative
Speaker 3: that the white supremacist shooter in the top supermarket had
Speaker 3: he had written on his gun, you will not replace us,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And this is shared you know in those those those
Speaker 1: white supremacist like chat rooms on the internet, their manifesto places.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not stupid, they are just they subscribe
Speaker 3: to a separate reality that it's not a shared reality.
Speaker 1: It's just their reality. And they're so afraid of what
Speaker 1: we know to be nothing, but in their world it's
Speaker 1: a very real thing. I mean, they found a way
Speaker 1: to stir their base into a frenzy that's monolithic. Sure,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's successful. They don't have to have
Speaker 1: the majority, right, we can outnumber them by tens of millions,
Speaker 1: but they're if we got sixty million and they got ten,
Speaker 1: all their ten is on the same page. They on
Speaker 1: the same joint, Like this is what we're on right,
Speaker 1: our sixty I'm talking about I don't like Ramses's afro,
Speaker 1: He don't like my hair, his glasses. The black minds
Speaker 1: have a gold tinge. We're gonna spend our whole thing
Speaker 1: pointing out the problems in the holes and the small
Speaker 1: fractures in each other that ten million. They don't care
Speaker 1: nothing about none of that. They are trying to replace us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. That is their work. That fear worked for
Speaker 1: that small number of people, and they are united in
Speaker 1: that fear. So we are cannibalizing ourselves by tearing each
Speaker 1: other down and not supporting the same message, the same vision,
Speaker 1: the same anything. It is quite discouraging. You know what
Speaker 1: comes to mind when you say that is the way
Speaker 1: that we treated Bernie Sanders for the last election. But
Speaker 1: hang on, I have I have a whole other another
Speaker 1: point to me. So to your point, it wouldn't matter
Speaker 1: if we called a movement black Lives Matter, It wouldn't
Speaker 1: matter if we called a slogan defund the police. They
Speaker 1: would figure out. In they're brilliance, I would admit that,
Speaker 1: in they're brilliance, they would figure out a way to
Speaker 1: challenge the narrative and the actual language the war cry.
Speaker 3: They would figure it out. You know, these are marketing professionals.
Speaker 3: I went to school for marketing, so I know, like, man,
Speaker 3: that's brilliant. You know, a way to counter counter a statement,
Speaker 3: a movement or whatever. And then, because they are monolithic
Speaker 3: in their focus and in their efforts, they can exist
Speaker 3: and really do some damage to a movement or a moment. Now,
Speaker 3: let's actually look into what we're trying to look into
Speaker 3: here for this topic. All right, So our first set
Speaker 3: of notes comes from the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: All Right.
Speaker 3: During his presidency, the Trump administration abandoned a provision, sorry,
Speaker 3: abandon a proven way to reduce police violence. Patterner practice
Speaker 3: investigators are considering one of the best ways to reign
Speaker 3: in and reform dysfunctional departments. Congress created the authority for
Speaker 3: these federal and investigations formerly known as thirty four USC
Speaker 3: one two six or A one and the aftermath of
Speaker 3: the vicious beating of Rodney King by LAPD officers. Now
Speaker 3: the patterner practice investigations civil not criminal investigations aimed at
Speaker 3: systemic problems, not individual officers, allow but allow the federal
Speaker 3: government to sue any law enforcement entity that engages in
Speaker 3: a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives a person's rights, privileges,
Speaker 3: or immunities secured by or protected by the Constitution or
Speaker 3: laws of the United States. Government cannot sue for money,
Speaker 3: but it can sue for what's called equitable and declaratory relief,
Speaker 3: which is an order from a judge that police agencies
Speaker 3: have to enact specific reforms. Most cases don't go to trial.
Speaker 3: Once the federal government has uncovered specific and multiple constitutional violations,
Speaker 3: the police department will often begin negotiating rather than defend
Speaker 3: its practices in court. These usually result in consent decrees,
Speaker 3: where the police departments agree to reform their practices. Now,
Speaker 3: the Trump administration abandoned this provision that minimized or minimized
Speaker 3: might not be the right word, but reduced police violence.
Speaker 1: And it can't be intelligently argued that they did that
Speaker 1: for any other reason than to allow these agencies to
Speaker 1: operate the way that they do with impunity. That's it, right.
Speaker 3: So if it was just Donald Trump, you might listen,
Speaker 3: might think, well, yeah, of course that's Trump. That's what
Speaker 3: he does, that's what he stands for, that's what his
Speaker 3: base wants.
Speaker 1: You know, because the United States of his base isn't
Speaker 1: affected by not just Orange man. So watch this, and
Speaker 1: this is why we're talking about this this week because
Speaker 1: our producer Maggie pointed out to us that President Biden,
Speaker 1: our current sitting president of the United States of America,
Speaker 1: as of you're listening to our voice, he was set
Speaker 1: to make an announcement in support of allocating more funds
Speaker 1: for the police and hiring more officers, right, and that
Speaker 1: was overshadowed. That announcement was overshadowed because he got COVID
Speaker 1: right at the same time. So it ended up kind
Speaker 1: of getting put out by the White House. But he
Speaker 1: didn't get to say it because he was not allowed
Speaker 1: to be in front of folks on camp or.
Speaker 3: Whatever his situation was. But he was set to do that,
Speaker 3: So I'll read this. This one also comes from the
Speaker 3: Washington Post. Biden makes his midterm message clear, fund the police,
Speaker 3: all right. Republicans applauded the blunt proclamation. Activist mourned its
Speaker 3: deeper message. This comes via Legal Defense Funds website. Response
Speaker 3: to Biden's proposal. On Thursday, President Biden revealed the Safer
Speaker 3: America Plan okay, which includes important support for community led
Speaker 3: crime prevention and intervention, increased law enforcement accountability, sentencing reform,
Speaker 3: and gun violence abatement. Now those key words in there
Speaker 3: sound like what it is that everyone's been working toward, right,
Speaker 3: community policing, you know, increased accountability, so forth and so on, Right,
Speaker 3: But it fails to address, In fact, it exacerbates the
Speaker 3: existing problem, which is over policeing. I want to take
Speaker 3: a moment right here because I had a conversation with
Speaker 3: a friend today and he went to a grocery store,
Speaker 3: and he said, a person walked into the grocery store
Speaker 3: and went to the fruit section of the grocery store,
Speaker 3: grabbed some fruit and started eating the fruit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: This is very sad because the person that went into
Speaker 3: the store and got the fruit was hungry. That's why
Speaker 3: you go in the store to that's where the food is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: If a moose walked into the store and ate an apple,
Speaker 3: what do you do with the moose? Do you call
Speaker 3: the police? Well, you might call the police because you
Speaker 3: might not want to run at a moose, but you
Speaker 3: know what I'm trying to say, definitely not trying to
Speaker 3: get down with the moose. But does the moose get arrested?
Speaker 1: You call the police is for far different reasons, right,
Speaker 1: and the police respond in a different way to an animal. Okay,
Speaker 1: But this person went into the store hungry, right to
Speaker 1: the fruit wrap some fruit on the cameras of everything.
Speaker 1: Let me just eat this fruit, right, So what recourse
Speaker 1: does the store have?
Speaker 3: Called the police? And when you call the police, you
Speaker 3: know the store didn't have to do that. I don't
Speaker 3: want to mention the store because there were stores, but.
Speaker 1: I mean you could actually got to pay for Yeah.
Speaker 3: But my assumption is that, you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: that the man's personal details. Remember I'm hearing this from
Speaker 3: someone who witnessed it happen. But you know, if you're
Speaker 3: a store manager, my assumption is that this was a
Speaker 3: middle manager type of person that perhaps is a you know,
Speaker 3: based on this where the location of the store and
Speaker 3: the population in that part of the city, this might
Speaker 3: have been someone who was not melanated.
Speaker 1: We'll say that it doesn't mean you can't be compassionate
Speaker 1: and exactly just by the person a piece of fruit, right.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, this show exists to teach people
Speaker 1: what it looks like a dollar that it might cost.
Speaker 1: But again, this show exists to teach people what that
Speaker 1: might look like. They may not know how to be
Speaker 1: compassionate because they may never never have seen it. They
Speaker 1: may think, Okay, what is the only thing I can
Speaker 1: do to keep my job? To address this? Five pounds
Speaker 1: of bananas cost like a dollar and fifty cent. Okay,
Speaker 1: we know this. I'm just saying, we know this so
Speaker 1: does the grocery store manager. Okay, but watch this again.
Speaker 1: If their systems in place and you're trying to your
Speaker 1: best to do your job and do right by everybody,
Speaker 1: you might think the only thing I can do, it's
Speaker 1: called the police. If you didn't grow up like us,
Speaker 1: that might be the only thing, that's the only tool
Speaker 1: that you have. Because you might not know in your mind,
Speaker 1: if you don't have any melanin in your skin, and
Speaker 1: you didn't grow up culturally adjacent to black and brown
Speaker 1: people in the city, you might not know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be over policed in the first place. You
Speaker 1: might not have even heard any stories. You also might
Speaker 1: be underqualified to be a manager of a retailer. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can, we can. We can have that conversation too.
Speaker 1: That's a separate conversation. But you're not wrong. But you know,
Speaker 1: just to finish, they called the police. The police come
Speaker 1: in mass so by the time I because you got
Speaker 1: to send swat because right so, by the time going
Speaker 1: down and produce, by the time my friend leaves the store,
Speaker 1: there's seven police cars something like that, tons of police
Speaker 1: officers for someone now seated at the front of the
Speaker 1: store for eating fruit. In the store with no money
Speaker 1: and no intention to pay for it. Now, if you're
Speaker 1: like me and you live in this country, you know
Speaker 1: right now food prices are high, wages are down, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to keep a job, it's hard to keep rent,
Speaker 1: and so forth and so on. So so let's hang
Speaker 1: on hand. We gotta get out of it. Let me
Speaker 1: let me finish, Let me finish, Let me finish what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Man.
Speaker 3: So, if that's the only number that you can call,
Speaker 3: and that's the way that they respond. If you send
Speaker 3: seven police cars to respond to somebody eating fruit at
Speaker 3: a store, imagine how much money it takes to get
Speaker 3: that going, to get that endeavor. All those officers are
Speaker 3: there now for an hour, writing incident reports, making sure
Speaker 3: there's back up radio. You know, these are resources that
Speaker 3: we pay for for somebody eating fruit versus what did
Speaker 3: you say, how much do them bananas costs?
Speaker 1: I want four pounds of bananas yesterday for a dollar
Speaker 1: and forty one cent or something like that. So do
Speaker 1: you think that maybe there is a ticketing system that
Speaker 1: might work a little bit better there? Or you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have the answer, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: that rethinking what policing needs is even even with the
Speaker 1: systems in place. Yet, let's find the guy, however, manager,
Speaker 1: store manager, if anyone listening as a store manager. Of course,
Speaker 1: you cannot do this for every case because you have
Speaker 1: a family to support, you have bills. But by the
Speaker 1: person the piece of fruit, yeah, man, and if you
Speaker 1: see somebody really really like, by the person the piece
Speaker 1: of fruit. But listen, if you see somebody stealing food,
Speaker 1: no you didn't. That's it simple.
Speaker 3: If somebody's stealing your bike out of your front yard,
Speaker 3: you run them down and you get your bike back.
Speaker 1: However, that looks you and that person got to work
Speaker 1: that out. I mean, right, if they're stealing cases of noodles,
Speaker 1: and like there's stealing stuff off the out of the
Speaker 1: aisles in the store, and there a thief, then yeah,
Speaker 1: they should probably be dealt with like a thief. They
Speaker 1: shouldn't be you know, things can go really wrong, however,
Speaker 1: food Well, let's let's not pretend that we don't live
Speaker 1: in a capitalist society. However, yeah, that's fair. Right, if
Speaker 1: you still are microphones, we can't just watch you do
Speaker 1: it because whatever your reasoning is right, you're hungry. I
Speaker 1: can just buy you a piece of fruit, like the
Speaker 1: store manager can afford to buy that person and probably
Speaker 1: the next ten people a piece of fruit and wouldn't
Speaker 1: affect anything. It wouldn't affect anything. They throw that food away, right,
Speaker 1: And there's and there's there's accountability for loss in retail
Speaker 1: as well. Right, they kind of understand that most retailers
Speaker 1: going away from even having people that registers and letting
Speaker 1: everyone's self check out, they're taken into account that some
Speaker 1: of those people are walking out of the store.
Speaker 3: Now, hang on, I don't want to get too far
Speaker 3: away from the police's role in this, correct, Right, So
Speaker 3: we all live in the same country, in the same reality.
Speaker 4: For the most same country. Okay, we live in the
Speaker 4: same country. Yeah, realities. Okay, that's fair, but realities be different.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be fair in this moment. If something bad,
Speaker 4: if somebody walks into the studio right now and takes
Speaker 4: the microphones, what do we do Either watch it happen
Speaker 4: or call the police.
Speaker 3: That's really what it is. So I'm not mad at
Speaker 3: the store manager. I mean, I'm from seven miles so
Speaker 3: we can listen. You better say that California be busy.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know what I mean, right, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, you know, call the police or
Speaker 3: you know, watch it happen or both, you know. And
Speaker 3: some people they're not from seven mile and they don't
Speaker 3: have that in them, and they shouldn't. That's not that's
Speaker 3: I don't believe that. That is Our nature is human things.
Speaker 3: We cooperate. We are social creatures. We are programmed to
Speaker 3: get along with one another, and we are taught to
Speaker 3: behave in an opposite manner, and we are conditioned by
Speaker 3: society to behave in an opposite manner and to espouse
Speaker 3: greed and you know, capitalism once again. Yeah, but police
Speaker 3: over policing is a problem. So for Joe Biden to
Speaker 3: say we need to put one hundred thousand more officers
Speaker 3: on the streets, you know, despite his coded language here
Speaker 3: police accountability, et cetera, et cetera, what you end up
Speaker 3: with is everybody showing up trying to do the job right.
Speaker 1: So let me. I'm gonna paint a picture. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: paint a picture for our listeners.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I have a house right the outside
Speaker 3: of my house, I want to paint it yellow. Okay,
Speaker 3: I call a painter to come and paint the outside
Speaker 3: of my house yellow. Right, somehow seven painters end up
Speaker 3: showing up at my house. Right now, they all have
Speaker 3: to justify being there because I'm the painter. This is
Speaker 3: a house. I'm here with yellow paint, right, So they
Speaker 3: all are going to want to.
Speaker 1: Get a piece of it. They're going to get involved
Speaker 1: to justify their existence. I know there's too many painters,
Speaker 1: so this is going to be a problem. And guess what.
Speaker 3: Each of them paints a little bit of the house
Speaker 3: and then it's seven different shades of.
Speaker 1: Yellow, and then my house is ugly.
Speaker 3: Right, So think about that when we talk about over policing, right,
Speaker 3: And the fact is we know that if you reallocate
Speaker 3: police resources the right way, in a way that addresses
Speaker 3: the problems, the source of the problems daycare, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: make that connection. But sure enough, there's a connection between
Speaker 3: daycare and how accessible it is and crime rates in
Speaker 3: certain communities. That is a fact, right.
Speaker 1: Employment, social services, thank you, thank you these things, right,
Speaker 1: and then you don't even need that many police.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be pretend like crime isn't always
Speaker 3: going to be with us because there are bad people.
Speaker 3: They do exist in all colors, and we perhaps might
Speaker 3: need some traditional elements of policing to remain, especially in
Speaker 3: the haves versus have not society fair. But you know
Speaker 3: where we are with this is we have a government
Speaker 3: that is detached in terms of their thinking from what
Speaker 3: is really happening on the streets where Q is getting
Speaker 3: pulled over for a speeding ticket. And we realize that
Speaker 3: we not only have too many of these people, we
Speaker 3: have the wrong the people with the wrong temperament, you know,
Speaker 3: because of the sake we need to fill the We
Speaker 3: need one hundred thousand more people. Okay, so what's the
Speaker 3: qualifications of the one hundred thousand more people? Do you
Speaker 3: need to get people that get mad when they write
Speaker 3: a ticket because that's the job that they chose to do,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And then you're gonna give
Speaker 3: these people guns and have them make life and death
Speaker 3: decisions and then give them immune from the consequences, and
Speaker 3: then we're under that boot.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: We need to really recognize the fact that there are
Speaker 3: two different Americas, one that the government is pandering to
Speaker 3: to ensure that their base is fortified and that they
Speaker 3: get re elected and the one that we live in.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because it's not ignorance, it's that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we have to move on now. So it's time
Speaker 1: for our way black History fact.
Speaker 3: And fortunately it's kind of in the same vein there.
Speaker 1: So today's way Black History fact comes.
Speaker 3: From or sponsored by Hip Hoplicly magazine. It comes from
Speaker 3: the NAACP. We like the NAACP around there. Shout out
Speaker 3: to them for hooking us up with an award. It's
Speaker 3: somewhere in the studio. I lost it, but shout out
Speaker 3: to THEAACP for loving what we do here. We love
Speaker 3: y'all too, all right. The origins of modern day policing,
Speaker 3: all right, the origins of modern day policing can be
Speaker 3: traced back to the slave control. That word patrol is
Speaker 3: something that you should remember. We talked about this show before,
Speaker 3: but we're going to make this breathe a little bit
Speaker 3: for you. The earliest formal slave patrol was created in
Speaker 3: the Carolinas in the early seventeen hundreds with one mission
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred, with one mission to establish a system of
Speaker 3: terror and squash slave uprisings, with the capacity to pursue,
Speaker 3: apprehend and return runaway slaves to their owners. Tactics included
Speaker 3: the use of excessive force to control and produce desired
Speaker 3: slave labor. All right, I want to take a moment
Speaker 3: here before I finished this reading. If you can do
Speaker 3: me a favor. You're listening intently to Q and I
Speaker 3: have this conversation. If you're in a position to make
Speaker 3: a note, I want you to write how to Make
Speaker 3: a Slave. Write it in your phone, write it somewhere.
Speaker 3: The author is Willie Lynch. I will say that it
Speaker 3: is contested the authenticity of that that writing contested, whether
Speaker 3: or not it was a historical document or not. But
Speaker 3: the point is that, regardless of whether it was a
Speaker 3: work of fiction or work of nonfiction, it is a
Speaker 3: very potent and sobering reminder of the reality of this
Speaker 3: time in our country. Seventeen hundred people say, and you know,
Speaker 3: the successive force to control and produce desired slave labor.
Speaker 3: It'll make sense once you read that again. It's by
Speaker 3: It's called how to Make a Slave, and the author
Speaker 3: is Willie Lynch. I want you to look that up.
Speaker 3: That's your homework, and that's another baba for you for
Speaker 3: next week. Do that and then we'll actually we should
Speaker 3: probably include that for another way black history fact.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 3: North Carolina slave patrol oath was as follows, I Patroller's name,
Speaker 3: do swear that I will, as a searcher for guns, swords,
Speaker 3: and other weapons among slaves in my district, faithfully and
Speaker 3: as privately as I can, discharge the trust reposed in me,
Speaker 3: as the law directs, to the best of my power.
Speaker 1: So help me God.
Speaker 3: Slave patrols continued until the end of the Civil War
Speaker 3: and the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment. Following the Civil War,
Speaker 3: during reconstruction, slave patrols were replaced by malicious style groups
Speaker 3: who were empowered to control and deny access to equal
Speaker 3: rights to freed slaves. They relentlessly and systematically enforced Black codes,
Speaker 3: strict local and state laws that regulated and restricted access
Speaker 3: to labor, wages, voting rights, and general freedoms for formerly
Speaker 3: enslaved people. In eighteen sixty eight, ratification of the Fourteenth
Speaker 3: Amendment of the US Constitution technically granted equal protections to
Speaker 3: African Americans, essentially abolishing Black codes, Jim Crow laws, and
Speaker 3: state and local statutes that legalized racial segregation.
Speaker 1: Swiftly took their place.
Speaker 3: This comes from history dot COM's or its little Slight
Speaker 3: shift here. Jim Crow laws where a collection of state
Speaker 3: and local statues that legalized racial segregation, named after a
Speaker 3: black minis instral show character, the character who wore blackface.
Speaker 1: The laws, which existed for.
Speaker 3: About one hundred years in the post Civil War era
Speaker 3: until nineteen sixty eight, were meant to marginalize African Americans
Speaker 3: by denying them the right to vote, full jobs, get
Speaker 3: an education, or other opportunities. Those who attempted to defy
Speaker 3: Jim Crow laws often faced arrest, fines, jail sentences, violence,
Speaker 3: and death. By the nineteen hundred, local municipalities began to
Speaker 3: establish police departments to enforce local laws in the East
Speaker 3: and Midwest, including Jim Crow laws. Local municipalities leaned on
Speaker 3: police to enforce and exert excessive brutality on African Americans
Speaker 3: who violated any Jim Crow law. Jim Crow laws continued
Speaker 3: through the end of the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: Fast forward to.
Speaker 3: Today, the criminal justice system is heavily impacted by the
Speaker 3: bias of police mentality and outdated judicial precedents. The system
Speaker 3: is largely driven by racial disparities and the black community
Speaker 3: continues to be the target. The results are brutal and
Speaker 3: long sence ending. The legacy and effects of bias policing
Speaker 3: are far reaching. The US is home to the world's
Speaker 3: largest prison population in the highest per capita incarceration rate.
Speaker 3: As of May twenty twenty, there were six hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty five people incarcerated per one hundred thousand. Police sorry, prison,
Speaker 3: parole and probation operations cost US taxpayers eighty one billion
Speaker 3: were a b dollars per year, and then another fact.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty there were one thy twenty one fatal
Speaker 3: police shootings, and in twenty nineteen there were nine hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety nine fatal shootings. Additional additionally, the rate of
Speaker 3: fatal police shootings among Black African Americans was much higher
Speaker 3: than for any other ethnicity, standing at thirty five fatal
Speaker 3: shootings per million of the population as of March twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one. That comes from statistica dot com now.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, Willie Lynch. Whether or not it
Speaker 1: was an official document, what cannot be argued is whether
Speaker 1: or not it was fiction. It was not fiction. It
Speaker 1: may not have been an official piece of legal or
Speaker 1: political literature, but the ideology of Willie Lynch's writing that
Speaker 1: feel very risk day. Yeah, so that's why I want
Speaker 1: you to read it. So, yeah, we said you said
Speaker 1: it wasn't We weren't sure there was factor fiction or
Speaker 1: if it was fiction or non fiction. It was very
Speaker 1: very much nonfiction.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now now we're going to have this conversation
Speaker 3: right here, we have a couple of minutes. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: I do want you, our listener, to to look this up.
Speaker 3: You may have heard a bit about it, maybe not.
Speaker 3: I want you to look it up so you know
Speaker 3: what we're.
Speaker 1: Talking and reach out to us so we can talk
Speaker 1: to you about it. Please. We would we would love
Speaker 1: to jump on camera and jump on a microphone and
Speaker 1: have that conversation, which even if it's not the show
Speaker 1: that you're listening to right now, sure we'll make some
Speaker 1: time for you. Now.
Speaker 3: What the reason I say that is because if you
Speaker 3: google Willie Lynch Letter or how to Make a Slave,
Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of fluff, a lot
Speaker 3: of things that try to debunk the authenticity of the letter.
Speaker 3: And I don't want you to be confused by that
Speaker 3: because again, as you mentioned, whether or not this was
Speaker 3: actually written by a man, and a man's name was really.
Speaker 1: Lynch, and so forth. The ideology there is very true.
Speaker 3: And when you get a chance to see that this
Speaker 3: was deliberate and that it works and it was masterful,
Speaker 3: just like the fluff that's masterfully placed next to the
Speaker 3: actual document. You know, go to the Wikipedia page. You'll
Speaker 3: see the document and then you'll see all the rest
Speaker 3: of the stuff says is not you know, it may
Speaker 3: not be real. It's the authenticity is debated and so
Speaker 3: forth to you know, kind of create some confusion around it.
Speaker 3: But please read it and you'll see what we're talking
Speaker 3: about here. But for now, because we have to go,
Speaker 3: just know that this is the origins of policing. This
Speaker 3: is the way that our government feels about policing, and
Speaker 3: it's continuing to operate and we are still at the
Speaker 3: receiving end of a lot of that brutality. So again,
Speaker 3: just keep that in mind when you cast your boats
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