1 00:00:15,476 --> 00:00:24,956 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey, Happiness Lab listeners, We're finally coming to the 2 00:00:25,036 --> 00:00:27,916 Speaker 1: end of our Happiness Hot Take series, a whole season 3 00:00:27,996 --> 00:00:30,436 Speaker 1: in which I've been calling out the bad happiness advice 4 00:00:30,516 --> 00:00:33,276 Speaker 1: that I hear so often on the internet. For a 5 00:00:33,356 --> 00:00:36,116 Speaker 1: final hot take, we're heading back into the Happiness Lab 6 00:00:36,276 --> 00:00:39,476 Speaker 1: archives to revisit a misconception that I struggle with myself. 7 00:00:40,236 --> 00:00:42,196 Speaker 1: Many of us find it hard to ask for support, 8 00:00:42,636 --> 00:00:45,836 Speaker 1: either because we're afraid of inconveniencing other people or we 9 00:00:45,836 --> 00:00:48,076 Speaker 1: don't want to come off as too needy. We're taught 10 00:00:48,116 --> 00:00:50,676 Speaker 1: to handle things on our own, even at times when 11 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:53,396 Speaker 1: we really could use a helping hand. But today's hot 12 00:00:53,396 --> 00:00:56,436 Speaker 1: take is this we should be bothering people a little 13 00:00:56,476 --> 00:00:59,076 Speaker 1: more often. It turns out that asking someone for a 14 00:00:59,116 --> 00:01:01,996 Speaker 1: favor doesn't just make life easier for you, it can 15 00:01:02,036 --> 00:01:05,116 Speaker 1: actually make the other person happier as well. So stay 16 00:01:05,156 --> 00:01:07,916 Speaker 1: tuned for research and stories that reveal why asking for 17 00:01:07,996 --> 00:01:10,556 Speaker 1: everything from a little as assistance to a massive act 18 00:01:10,556 --> 00:01:14,316 Speaker 1: of generosity can be good for everyone involved. Here's this 19 00:01:14,436 --> 00:01:16,836 Speaker 1: week's in case you missed it Happiness hot take. I 20 00:01:16,876 --> 00:01:25,796 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. We're in a first grade classroom 21 00:01:25,916 --> 00:01:29,276 Speaker 1: in Beijing, China. It's about twenty years ago. Ahead of 22 00:01:29,276 --> 00:01:32,476 Speaker 1: the annual holidays. To mark the occasion, a teacher has 23 00:01:32,476 --> 00:01:35,316 Speaker 1: brought and wrapped presents for her students. The gifts are 24 00:01:35,356 --> 00:01:37,636 Speaker 1: stacked up in a corner ready to be handed out, 25 00:01:38,196 --> 00:01:38,596 Speaker 1: and if she. 26 00:01:38,756 --> 00:01:40,596 Speaker 2: Just stop right there, it'll be a great story. 27 00:01:41,196 --> 00:01:43,356 Speaker 1: Jah John was one of those excited kids. 28 00:01:43,916 --> 00:01:45,716 Speaker 3: But she had all of us come to the front 29 00:01:45,756 --> 00:01:47,916 Speaker 3: of a classroom and said, hey, why don't you guys 30 00:01:47,956 --> 00:01:50,716 Speaker 3: say nice things about each other. If someone calls your 31 00:01:50,796 --> 00:01:52,836 Speaker 3: name and says something nice about you, you can go 32 00:01:52,876 --> 00:01:54,036 Speaker 3: get a gift and sit down. 33 00:01:54,156 --> 00:01:56,916 Speaker 1: One by one, The kids started sharing kind words about 34 00:01:56,916 --> 00:01:57,716 Speaker 1: their classmates. 35 00:01:58,196 --> 00:02:01,076 Speaker 3: It was great when he started someone's can sing really well. 36 00:02:01,156 --> 00:02:03,836 Speaker 3: Someone is helpful to other teachers, and I will applaud 37 00:02:03,876 --> 00:02:04,916 Speaker 3: as if it might turn. 38 00:02:05,236 --> 00:02:08,116 Speaker 1: But the flow of compliments soon slowed down and then 39 00:02:08,356 --> 00:02:13,116 Speaker 1: petered outcome lately worried, Jao's teacher asked, doesn't anyone have 40 00:02:13,196 --> 00:02:15,476 Speaker 1: anything nice to say about the students who are still 41 00:02:15,516 --> 00:02:18,956 Speaker 1: at the front of the class. No one spoke. Three 42 00:02:19,036 --> 00:02:22,556 Speaker 1: gifts sat uncollected in the corner, and three kids stood 43 00:02:22,556 --> 00:02:25,596 Speaker 1: rejected at the front of the room, and I was. 44 00:02:25,596 --> 00:02:27,556 Speaker 2: One of them. 45 00:02:27,596 --> 00:02:29,916 Speaker 1: It was just a fleeting few minutes in Jao's life, 46 00:02:30,316 --> 00:02:32,676 Speaker 1: but the events of that day cast a long shadow. 47 00:02:33,276 --> 00:02:37,036 Speaker 1: Joh eventually graduated school, then headed to college, and began 48 00:02:37,076 --> 00:02:38,516 Speaker 1: a new life outside China. 49 00:02:39,036 --> 00:02:41,676 Speaker 3: But the thing is, once I came to the United States, 50 00:02:41,796 --> 00:02:44,876 Speaker 3: I started following like a path of almost like at 51 00:02:44,916 --> 00:02:45,796 Speaker 3: least resistance. 52 00:02:46,196 --> 00:02:48,716 Speaker 1: Nearing his thirties, Jao felt like he was being held 53 00:02:48,756 --> 00:02:51,956 Speaker 1: back from chasing his dreams and fulfilling his potential, and 54 00:02:51,996 --> 00:02:54,196 Speaker 1: he traced some of that back to the fateful day 55 00:02:54,236 --> 00:02:56,676 Speaker 1: many years ago, where he stood rejected in front of 56 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:57,436 Speaker 1: his classmates. 57 00:02:57,876 --> 00:02:59,276 Speaker 2: Pretty sure it didn't help. 58 00:02:59,676 --> 00:03:02,316 Speaker 1: You See, Jean needed all the confidence, self belief, and 59 00:03:02,396 --> 00:03:04,996 Speaker 1: drive he could muster because he had a dream. 60 00:03:05,876 --> 00:03:09,316 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be an entrepreneur. You know, I 61 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:12,276 Speaker 3: actually come from a family of teachers, but I didn't 62 00:03:12,396 --> 00:03:13,836 Speaker 3: never want to be a teacher. I want to be 63 00:03:14,076 --> 00:03:16,356 Speaker 3: entrepreneur because I was inspired by Bill Gates. 64 00:03:16,676 --> 00:03:19,356 Speaker 1: Becoming the next Bill Gates requires a willingness to put 65 00:03:19,356 --> 00:03:21,916 Speaker 1: yourself out there. You've got to be prepared to tell 66 00:03:21,956 --> 00:03:25,316 Speaker 1: potential investors and clients about your big plans, and you've 67 00:03:25,316 --> 00:03:27,116 Speaker 1: got to be prepared for them to laugh you out 68 00:03:27,116 --> 00:03:29,556 Speaker 1: of the room. You have to knock on door after 69 00:03:29,636 --> 00:03:32,996 Speaker 1: door after door, asking for support and backing until you 70 00:03:33,036 --> 00:03:35,916 Speaker 1: get the answer you want. And Jaw just wasn't sure 71 00:03:35,956 --> 00:03:36,676 Speaker 1: he could handle that. 72 00:03:37,156 --> 00:03:39,556 Speaker 2: I just felt like my fear of rejection was really 73 00:03:39,556 --> 00:03:40,236 Speaker 2: holding me back. 74 00:03:40,836 --> 00:03:43,636 Speaker 1: Though now fully grown, Jaw still felt the pain of 75 00:03:43,636 --> 00:03:44,676 Speaker 1: his six year old self. 76 00:03:44,876 --> 00:03:47,676 Speaker 3: And I was just miserable, to be honest, because I 77 00:03:47,916 --> 00:03:51,116 Speaker 3: feel like I'm getting old. My wife was pregnant, and 78 00:03:51,396 --> 00:03:53,356 Speaker 3: I just feel like I probably missed my mark to 79 00:03:53,436 --> 00:03:55,716 Speaker 3: be this entrepreneur that I've always wanted to be. 80 00:03:56,316 --> 00:03:58,676 Speaker 1: So was shopping to admit defeat and give up on 81 00:03:58,756 --> 00:04:01,956 Speaker 1: his dream and remain miserable on this path of least resistance. 82 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:04,796 Speaker 2: Nope, So that's. 83 00:04:04,676 --> 00:04:07,236 Speaker 3: Where I realized I got to overcome this fear of rejection. 84 00:04:08,476 --> 00:04:10,876 Speaker 1: Even if you did get dissed by your entire first 85 00:04:10,876 --> 00:04:14,516 Speaker 1: grade classroom, you can probably still relate to Jah's lack 86 00:04:14,596 --> 00:04:17,956 Speaker 1: of confidence. It's not just entrepreneurs who need to make 87 00:04:17,996 --> 00:04:21,156 Speaker 1: themselves vulnerable to others, whether it's in our careers or 88 00:04:21,276 --> 00:04:23,476 Speaker 1: just in daily life. Many of us have a hard 89 00:04:23,516 --> 00:04:26,316 Speaker 1: time asking for the help we need because, like Jah, 90 00:04:26,436 --> 00:04:29,356 Speaker 1: we fear rejection. We may worry we'll get a big, 91 00:04:29,396 --> 00:04:31,876 Speaker 1: fat no from a friend or stranger. Or we may 92 00:04:31,916 --> 00:04:34,756 Speaker 1: just hate the idea of bothering busy people. We may 93 00:04:34,796 --> 00:04:38,356 Speaker 1: fear being seen as pushy or annoying or needy. These 94 00:04:38,396 --> 00:04:41,236 Speaker 1: fears may feel very real, but do they match the 95 00:04:41,316 --> 00:04:43,596 Speaker 1: reality of reaching out to the people around us when 96 00:04:43,636 --> 00:04:47,276 Speaker 1: we need help. By not even opening the conversation, are 97 00:04:47,276 --> 00:04:50,356 Speaker 1: we actually making ourselves and other people less happy than 98 00:04:50,356 --> 00:04:56,036 Speaker 1: we could be. Our minds are constantly telling us what 99 00:04:56,116 --> 00:04:58,156 Speaker 1: to do to be happy. But what if our minds 100 00:04:58,196 --> 00:05:00,596 Speaker 1: are wrong? What if our minds are lying to us, 101 00:05:00,876 --> 00:05:03,036 Speaker 1: leading us away from what will really make us happy. 102 00:05:03,676 --> 00:05:05,876 Speaker 1: The good news is that understanding the science of the 103 00:05:05,876 --> 00:05:08,036 Speaker 1: mind can boin us all back in the right direction. 104 00:05:09,116 --> 00:05:18,916 Speaker 1: Listening to the Happiness Lab with doctor Laurie Santos, I was. 105 00:05:18,916 --> 00:05:21,916 Speaker 4: A former college football player, so asking for helps not 106 00:05:21,956 --> 00:05:24,636 Speaker 4: the kind of thing I typically did very much. 107 00:05:25,276 --> 00:05:28,476 Speaker 1: This is Social Connection expert and Happiness Lab regular Nick 108 00:05:28,516 --> 00:05:31,756 Speaker 1: Eppley lake Shaw. Nick grew up with a reluctance to 109 00:05:31,796 --> 00:05:32,476 Speaker 1: ask for help. 110 00:05:33,076 --> 00:05:35,596 Speaker 4: It's pretty strong and capable, and I could do stuff, 111 00:05:35,756 --> 00:05:39,036 Speaker 4: and that always made me fairly reluctant to ask others 112 00:05:39,156 --> 00:05:40,636 Speaker 4: for help to do almost anything. 113 00:05:41,436 --> 00:05:43,476 Speaker 1: If you've heard Nick on other episodes of this season, 114 00:05:43,716 --> 00:05:45,716 Speaker 1: you may recall that he studies the way our minds 115 00:05:45,756 --> 00:05:49,436 Speaker 1: mess up when it comes to happier social connection. Recently, 116 00:05:49,556 --> 00:05:51,596 Speaker 1: his lab has turned to the fears that he and 117 00:05:51,676 --> 00:05:53,756 Speaker 1: so many of us have when it comes to asking 118 00:05:53,796 --> 00:05:54,196 Speaker 1: for help. 119 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:56,436 Speaker 4: And our research and that and many others in the 120 00:05:56,436 --> 00:05:58,636 Speaker 4: field has been making it crystal clear that many of 121 00:05:58,676 --> 00:06:02,716 Speaker 4: those fears are miscalibrated, that as they're exaggerated, we tend 122 00:06:02,756 --> 00:06:05,876 Speaker 4: to underestimate how positively these interactions are going to go. 123 00:06:06,556 --> 00:06:09,316 Speaker 1: Nick's work begins from a premise that many researchers aru 124 00:06:09,596 --> 00:06:13,436 Speaker 1: is a universal psychological truth. We enjoy doing nice stuff 125 00:06:13,476 --> 00:06:14,156 Speaker 1: for other people. 126 00:06:14,596 --> 00:06:17,036 Speaker 4: I think feeling happy to have helped is a very 127 00:06:17,036 --> 00:06:19,276 Speaker 4: real thing. You go do something kind for somebody else, 128 00:06:19,276 --> 00:06:20,356 Speaker 4: you'll feel pretty darn good. 129 00:06:20,876 --> 00:06:23,196 Speaker 1: We usually notice how good it feels to help others 130 00:06:23,236 --> 00:06:25,636 Speaker 1: when we're in the role of the helper. We forget 131 00:06:25,636 --> 00:06:28,036 Speaker 1: that the same maxim holds for the people we ask 132 00:06:28,196 --> 00:06:28,876 Speaker 1: to help us. 133 00:06:29,276 --> 00:06:31,716 Speaker 4: Notice that asking for help from somebody else gives an 134 00:06:31,716 --> 00:06:34,596 Speaker 4: opportunity to do something kind for you, and by not 135 00:06:34,716 --> 00:06:38,076 Speaker 4: asking for help, you are really missing out on an 136 00:06:38,116 --> 00:06:40,316 Speaker 4: opportunity to make somebody else feel good. 137 00:06:40,636 --> 00:06:43,076 Speaker 1: We sometimes worry that our requests will be a burden 138 00:06:43,116 --> 00:06:45,796 Speaker 1: on the person we approach, that they'll feel pressured to 139 00:06:45,796 --> 00:06:49,156 Speaker 1: say yes, but Nick's research shows that that usually isn't 140 00:06:49,156 --> 00:06:52,316 Speaker 1: the case, Especially when we have a relatively simple request, 141 00:06:52,516 --> 00:06:55,236 Speaker 1: Calling upon another person for assistance can be a gift 142 00:06:55,396 --> 00:06:58,516 Speaker 1: not just to ourselves but also to the person we ask. 143 00:06:59,036 --> 00:07:01,796 Speaker 5: So in some ways, it seems almost selfish to not 144 00:07:01,876 --> 00:07:03,636 Speaker 5: ask other folks for help when they could give it 145 00:07:03,676 --> 00:07:06,316 Speaker 5: to you easily, because you're denying or an opportunity to 146 00:07:06,316 --> 00:07:07,236 Speaker 5: do something kind for you. 147 00:07:07,716 --> 00:07:10,356 Speaker 1: The problem is we usually don't see it that way, 148 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:12,596 Speaker 1: and when we fail to ask for help, we don't 149 00:07:12,636 --> 00:07:15,076 Speaker 1: get to witness the happiness boost it gives us or 150 00:07:15,116 --> 00:07:18,516 Speaker 1: the person giving us assistance, and so we continue to 151 00:07:18,556 --> 00:07:21,796 Speaker 1: believe that seeking help is an imposition rather than a 152 00:07:21,836 --> 00:07:24,356 Speaker 1: wonderful way to bond and make everyone happier. 153 00:07:24,836 --> 00:07:27,636 Speaker 4: We only get feedback from the things we choose to do, 154 00:07:28,276 --> 00:07:30,276 Speaker 4: and we don't get feedback from the things we choose 155 00:07:30,316 --> 00:07:34,676 Speaker 4: to avoid, and in an imperfect world like that, we're 156 00:07:34,716 --> 00:07:38,076 Speaker 4: going to get a systematically distorted view of how these 157 00:07:38,116 --> 00:07:41,716 Speaker 4: social interactions are going to go. That naturally confirms our belief. 158 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,596 Speaker 1: To test just how deeply ingrained these false beliefs are, 159 00:07:45,916 --> 00:07:48,996 Speaker 1: Nick designed a simple experiment. He set up a photo 160 00:07:49,036 --> 00:07:52,156 Speaker 1: op at a popular spot on campus. But the camera 161 00:07:52,196 --> 00:07:55,036 Speaker 1: he put out there wasn't a modern smartphone. It was 162 00:07:55,076 --> 00:07:58,876 Speaker 1: a vintage Polaroid instant camera. And that choice was key 163 00:07:59,316 --> 00:08:02,636 Speaker 1: because old school polaroids aren't built to let you take selfies. 164 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:05,236 Speaker 4: So in the old days, if you wanted somebody to 165 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:06,796 Speaker 4: take a picture of you as a you got to 166 00:08:06,796 --> 00:08:07,556 Speaker 4: go up and ask. 167 00:08:07,396 --> 00:08:07,996 Speaker 5: Them to do it. 168 00:08:09,196 --> 00:08:11,876 Speaker 1: Subjects had to find a stranger to assist them. But 169 00:08:11,916 --> 00:08:15,036 Speaker 1: before they approached anyone, the subjects were asked how annoyed 170 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:17,636 Speaker 1: they thought the stranger would be by being stopped, and 171 00:08:17,716 --> 00:08:21,036 Speaker 1: how positive their mood would be afterwards. Nick later compared 172 00:08:21,036 --> 00:08:24,076 Speaker 1: these predictions to what the strangers actually said about taking 173 00:08:24,076 --> 00:08:25,396 Speaker 1: the polaroids. 174 00:08:24,916 --> 00:08:27,556 Speaker 4: And we found that people tended to underestimate how positively 175 00:08:27,636 --> 00:08:30,676 Speaker 4: others respond, how willing they would be to help, how 176 00:08:30,716 --> 00:08:33,756 Speaker 4: happy they would feel helping after they actually did. It 177 00:08:33,876 --> 00:08:36,876 Speaker 4: was a more positive experience for the person you asked 178 00:08:36,876 --> 00:08:38,276 Speaker 4: for help than people expected. 179 00:08:38,876 --> 00:08:43,076 Speaker 1: Nick subjects also grossly overestimated how inconvenience the photo takers 180 00:08:43,116 --> 00:08:46,516 Speaker 1: would feel their guesses were six times higher than what 181 00:08:46,556 --> 00:08:51,276 Speaker 1: the helpers themselves later reported six times higher. Our predictions 182 00:08:51,276 --> 00:08:53,956 Speaker 1: of how other people will react to our helping requests 183 00:08:54,036 --> 00:08:55,356 Speaker 1: are way way off. 184 00:08:55,556 --> 00:08:57,676 Speaker 4: They were likely to want to try to help you, 185 00:08:57,796 --> 00:08:59,756 Speaker 4: and given that they were perceiving it as an act 186 00:08:59,796 --> 00:09:02,396 Speaker 4: of kindness, given that you'd ask for it, they'll feel 187 00:09:02,436 --> 00:09:03,916 Speaker 4: good when they actually help you out. 188 00:09:04,436 --> 00:09:07,676 Speaker 1: Results like these prompted Nick to rethink his own resistance 189 00:09:07,716 --> 00:09:08,636 Speaker 1: to asking for help. 190 00:09:09,156 --> 00:09:11,596 Speaker 4: Year in Chicago, sometimes snow's in the winter, but if 191 00:09:11,636 --> 00:09:14,316 Speaker 4: I couldn't plow my drive but I was often reluctant 192 00:09:14,636 --> 00:09:18,156 Speaker 4: to have a neighbor come and shovel my driveway. And 193 00:09:18,196 --> 00:09:20,396 Speaker 4: then our work in part made it clear to me 194 00:09:20,476 --> 00:09:23,596 Speaker 4: that the neighbor would probably feel pretty good being able 195 00:09:23,636 --> 00:09:26,716 Speaker 4: to do that for me, And so I now will 196 00:09:26,756 --> 00:09:28,636 Speaker 4: ask him if he could do that if I can't, 197 00:09:28,756 --> 00:09:31,236 Speaker 4: if I can't shovel it, and it's created lots of 198 00:09:31,236 --> 00:09:33,236 Speaker 4: good conversations between us where I get a chance to 199 00:09:33,276 --> 00:09:35,356 Speaker 4: thank him for that he feels good for it, and 200 00:09:35,516 --> 00:09:36,756 Speaker 4: I don't think I ever would have done that. 201 00:09:36,756 --> 00:09:40,396 Speaker 1: Before asking for help to take a quick photo or 202 00:09:40,436 --> 00:09:42,396 Speaker 1: for a friendly neighbor to lend you a hand. Shoveling 203 00:09:42,436 --> 00:09:46,236 Speaker 1: snow are great places to start. But aspiring entrepreneur Jean 204 00:09:46,316 --> 00:09:49,196 Speaker 1: Jong was in a hurry. He wanted to supercharge his 205 00:09:49,276 --> 00:09:52,676 Speaker 1: fight against his crippling fear of rejection, so the approach 206 00:09:52,716 --> 00:09:56,996 Speaker 1: he took was rather extreme. He decided to ask people 207 00:09:57,116 --> 00:09:58,876 Speaker 1: for some pretty fantastic favors. 208 00:09:59,276 --> 00:10:00,516 Speaker 2: I saw this big guy. 209 00:10:00,716 --> 00:10:02,476 Speaker 3: He looked like a security guard of some sort, and 210 00:10:02,476 --> 00:10:04,396 Speaker 3: he was sitting behind a desk. And I said, Okay, 211 00:10:04,436 --> 00:10:07,596 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask him. Then I said, just inching toward him, 212 00:10:07,956 --> 00:10:10,876 Speaker 3: I just slowed down. I was like, this is so scary, 213 00:10:11,236 --> 00:10:12,556 Speaker 3: but my heart was calending. 214 00:10:12,636 --> 00:10:13,436 Speaker 2: I was sweating. 215 00:10:14,076 --> 00:10:16,116 Speaker 1: Well hear how all this turned out? When the Happiness 216 00:10:16,156 --> 00:10:24,836 Speaker 1: Lab returns in a moment want to be entrepreneur, Jan 217 00:10:24,916 --> 00:10:27,636 Speaker 1: Jong wanted to beat his fear of rejection, so he 218 00:10:27,716 --> 00:10:29,676 Speaker 1: began where a lot of us do when we're ready 219 00:10:29,796 --> 00:10:32,396 Speaker 1: for a big behavior change. He did a. 220 00:10:32,356 --> 00:10:35,156 Speaker 2: Google search, Google has Yoda. 221 00:10:36,396 --> 00:10:38,876 Speaker 1: After a few clicks, Jean stumbled on a website that 222 00:10:38,876 --> 00:10:42,996 Speaker 1: would change his life forever. Rejection Therapy dot com, a 223 00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:47,356 Speaker 1: site that teaches a practice known as exposure therapy. Let's 224 00:10:47,356 --> 00:10:49,476 Speaker 1: say you want to get over your phobia of heights. 225 00:10:50,076 --> 00:10:52,596 Speaker 1: Exposure therapy would tell you to confront that fear by 226 00:10:52,676 --> 00:10:55,756 Speaker 1: visiting locations a little bit above ground level and then 227 00:10:55,836 --> 00:10:59,876 Speaker 1: over time climbing higher and higher, so that, through gradual exposure, 228 00:11:00,076 --> 00:11:03,716 Speaker 1: you get used to heights. Rejection Therapy dot com applies 229 00:11:03,756 --> 00:11:06,316 Speaker 1: that same logic to the fear of asking for help. 230 00:11:06,996 --> 00:11:10,156 Speaker 1: The website suggests things like challenging stranger to a game 231 00:11:10,196 --> 00:11:13,396 Speaker 1: of rock paper scissors or asking for a small discount 232 00:11:13,436 --> 00:11:16,436 Speaker 1: the next time you buy something. The challenges even have 233 00:11:16,516 --> 00:11:19,236 Speaker 1: different levels, so you can start with just a mild 234 00:11:19,236 --> 00:11:22,516 Speaker 1: taste of rejection and gradually build up to going way 235 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,276 Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone. Jew was ready to dive in. 236 00:11:25,516 --> 00:11:27,236 Speaker 2: I was like, this is the best id I've ever heard. 237 00:11:27,476 --> 00:11:30,836 Speaker 1: The site recommended a month long challenge, thirty days of Rejection, 238 00:11:31,156 --> 00:11:31,836 Speaker 1: and I didn't want. 239 00:11:31,756 --> 00:11:33,396 Speaker 3: To do thirty days because I was like, you know, 240 00:11:33,436 --> 00:11:36,556 Speaker 3: I want to go hardcore. Let me overdose on rejection 241 00:11:36,676 --> 00:11:38,916 Speaker 3: and see what happens. So I did the one hundred 242 00:11:39,036 --> 00:11:40,156 Speaker 3: days of rejection. 243 00:11:40,556 --> 00:11:43,916 Speaker 1: And rather than performing these challenges privately, Jeaque decided he 244 00:11:43,996 --> 00:11:46,956 Speaker 1: needed to film all his interactions and to share them 245 00:11:47,116 --> 00:11:48,156 Speaker 1: with the entire world. 246 00:11:48,316 --> 00:11:51,236 Speaker 3: I know if I do this by myself, I probably 247 00:11:51,236 --> 00:11:52,076 Speaker 3: get a couple of rejections. 248 00:11:52,116 --> 00:11:52,596 Speaker 2: This is quit. 249 00:11:52,876 --> 00:11:55,436 Speaker 3: But if I declare that to the world and I 250 00:11:55,476 --> 00:11:57,236 Speaker 3: will think people will hold me accountable. 251 00:11:57,236 --> 00:11:59,676 Speaker 2: So I can't just quit that easily. So that's what 252 00:11:59,716 --> 00:12:02,276 Speaker 2: I did. All right, This is my first try. 253 00:12:02,916 --> 00:12:06,556 Speaker 1: Day one of John's rejection marathon started pretty spectacularly. 254 00:12:06,796 --> 00:12:09,636 Speaker 3: I'm going to try to borrow one hundred dollars from 255 00:12:09,676 --> 00:12:10,316 Speaker 3: a stranger. 256 00:12:10,916 --> 00:12:13,476 Speaker 1: Joe picked a security guard sitting by a desk in 257 00:12:13,476 --> 00:12:15,556 Speaker 1: the marble filled lobby of a nice mall. 258 00:12:16,556 --> 00:12:18,756 Speaker 2: Excuse me, do you think I'm borrow a hundred dollars 259 00:12:18,756 --> 00:12:18,996 Speaker 2: from you? 260 00:12:19,876 --> 00:12:23,476 Speaker 1: The security guard looked confused, like he couldn't quite believe 261 00:12:23,516 --> 00:12:24,236 Speaker 1: what he was hearing. 262 00:12:24,836 --> 00:12:29,436 Speaker 2: No, no, why, all right? No, okay, sorry, thanks. 263 00:12:29,796 --> 00:12:32,476 Speaker 1: Jew didn't wait around to answer the security guard's question. 264 00:12:32,956 --> 00:12:34,636 Speaker 2: I just ran as fast as I could. 265 00:12:34,956 --> 00:12:38,876 Speaker 1: Jaw was downhearted. He assumed the interaction had gone terribly, 266 00:12:39,476 --> 00:12:42,676 Speaker 1: that the guard had badly rejected him, but all that 267 00:12:42,836 --> 00:12:44,796 Speaker 1: changed once he watched the footage. 268 00:12:45,196 --> 00:12:47,796 Speaker 3: I was like this NFL scout looking at the game film, 269 00:12:47,916 --> 00:12:49,236 Speaker 3: you know, analyzing myself. 270 00:12:49,636 --> 00:12:52,236 Speaker 1: Jaw was shocked by what he saw, and not by 271 00:12:52,276 --> 00:12:55,036 Speaker 1: the guard's reaction, but by his own I. 272 00:12:55,036 --> 00:12:57,516 Speaker 2: Looked so scared, and I was like, oh wow, I 273 00:12:57,516 --> 00:12:59,836 Speaker 2: didn't know he was a security or someone. I don't know. 274 00:12:59,956 --> 00:13:02,316 Speaker 2: He just sits there. He looks like a security guard. 275 00:13:03,236 --> 00:13:06,356 Speaker 3: I thought he might pull off a gun or just 276 00:13:07,636 --> 00:13:08,676 Speaker 3: yell at me or something. 277 00:13:09,316 --> 00:13:12,076 Speaker 1: Watching the video revealed that Shaw had nothing to be 278 00:13:12,116 --> 00:13:14,956 Speaker 1: scared of. He didn't get the hundred bucks, but the 279 00:13:14,996 --> 00:13:18,236 Speaker 1: guard was nice. He even gave Jaw a window of opportunity. 280 00:13:18,716 --> 00:13:21,276 Speaker 1: He asked Jaw why, like, why did he need the 281 00:13:21,356 --> 00:13:21,876 Speaker 1: hundred bucks? 282 00:13:21,876 --> 00:13:24,476 Speaker 3: Anyway, I could have said many things. I could have 283 00:13:24,596 --> 00:13:26,596 Speaker 3: negotiated with him. I could have said, if you can 284 00:13:26,716 --> 00:13:28,876 Speaker 3: do a hundred, can do five, you know he can 285 00:13:29,036 --> 00:13:32,596 Speaker 3: do one. I could explained that was overcoming our fair rejection. 286 00:13:33,036 --> 00:13:33,756 Speaker 2: I just ran. 287 00:13:34,316 --> 00:13:37,436 Speaker 3: So I said, Okay, next time, no matter what happens, 288 00:13:37,476 --> 00:13:40,276 Speaker 3: I am going to stay engaged. So I'm not going 289 00:13:40,356 --> 00:13:40,796 Speaker 3: to run. 290 00:13:40,916 --> 00:13:42,276 Speaker 2: That's the thing. I'm not going to run. 291 00:13:42,716 --> 00:13:44,796 Speaker 1: One day two of his one hundred days of rejection, 292 00:13:45,276 --> 00:13:48,596 Speaker 1: Jaw headed to his favorite burger joint, Five Guys Burgers 293 00:13:48,596 --> 00:13:52,156 Speaker 1: and Fries. He purchased a cheeseburger and ate it, and 294 00:13:52,196 --> 00:13:54,236 Speaker 1: then returned to the counter for the big ask. 295 00:13:55,276 --> 00:13:58,516 Speaker 5: Yes, burgers it Can I get a burger reveal? 296 00:13:58,676 --> 00:14:02,796 Speaker 1: Could he have a burger refill? That is another cheeseburger 297 00:14:02,996 --> 00:14:05,996 Speaker 1: totally for free? 298 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:09,276 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll like you guys a lot where 299 00:14:09,316 --> 00:14:10,636 Speaker 3: you to have a burger riffing on him. 300 00:14:10,996 --> 00:14:13,836 Speaker 1: The cashier said no, But this time Jell didn't run 301 00:14:13,876 --> 00:14:14,436 Speaker 1: away and. 302 00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:17,116 Speaker 2: I started negotiating. I started to stay calm and actually 303 00:14:17,116 --> 00:14:17,996 Speaker 2: explained myself. 304 00:14:18,156 --> 00:14:21,316 Speaker 3: And when that left, I didn't feel us bad like 305 00:14:21,476 --> 00:14:24,916 Speaker 3: I feel way better than the first day. 306 00:14:25,076 --> 00:14:28,916 Speaker 1: Jah was rejected. Five guys does not offer burger refills, 307 00:14:29,236 --> 00:14:32,396 Speaker 1: even if you ask politely. But the no Jah received 308 00:14:32,396 --> 00:14:35,116 Speaker 1: from the cashier yet again came with more kindness and 309 00:14:35,196 --> 00:14:36,436 Speaker 1: humor than he expected. 310 00:14:36,516 --> 00:14:39,476 Speaker 2: Day two was the success on to day three. 311 00:14:41,436 --> 00:14:43,916 Speaker 1: By day three, Jeall already felt like he was heading 312 00:14:43,956 --> 00:14:45,396 Speaker 1: for a rejection gold medal. 313 00:14:45,796 --> 00:14:47,316 Speaker 2: I'm driving to a Krispy Kreme. 314 00:14:47,916 --> 00:14:50,996 Speaker 1: So his next ask took his odd requests to Olympic 315 00:14:51,076 --> 00:14:52,956 Speaker 1: level heights of ridiculousness. 316 00:14:53,076 --> 00:14:56,796 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask them to make me some specialized donuts. 317 00:14:57,076 --> 00:14:59,036 Speaker 1: Joh one of the folks at Krispy Kream to make 318 00:14:59,116 --> 00:15:01,996 Speaker 1: him a set of five donuts interlocked in the shape 319 00:15:02,076 --> 00:15:03,476 Speaker 1: of the famous Olympic rings. 320 00:15:03,836 --> 00:15:05,516 Speaker 3: Well, there's no way they're gonna say yes to that, 321 00:15:05,676 --> 00:15:07,356 Speaker 3: you know, And I would just come in and make 322 00:15:07,356 --> 00:15:10,476 Speaker 3: a joke and get reject in and hopefully not be 323 00:15:10,556 --> 00:15:11,076 Speaker 3: too scared. 324 00:15:12,236 --> 00:15:13,836 Speaker 2: D Yeah. 325 00:15:13,876 --> 00:15:16,916 Speaker 1: The employee, Jackie Brawn, got a penant paper and asked 326 00:15:16,956 --> 00:15:19,596 Speaker 1: Joh to help her sketch out the design. She didn't 327 00:15:19,636 --> 00:15:22,876 Speaker 1: look angry or confused. She kind of seemed to relish 328 00:15:22,876 --> 00:15:23,836 Speaker 1: the challenge. 329 00:15:23,516 --> 00:15:26,036 Speaker 3: And fifteen minutes later she brought me out a box 330 00:15:26,076 --> 00:15:30,636 Speaker 3: of donuts that looked like Olympic rings. That is really good. 331 00:15:31,036 --> 00:15:34,956 Speaker 2: That's really good. Yeah, man, you'll make me really happy today. 332 00:15:35,276 --> 00:15:38,476 Speaker 1: Jackie didn't even charge Jah for the donuts. It's on me, 333 00:15:38,636 --> 00:15:40,636 Speaker 1: she told him with a big beaming smile. 334 00:15:41,076 --> 00:15:43,356 Speaker 3: So when I was walking out at that donut shop, 335 00:15:43,476 --> 00:15:45,516 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, how many yeses have I missed 336 00:15:45,556 --> 00:15:45,916 Speaker 3: my life? 337 00:15:45,996 --> 00:15:48,796 Speaker 2: Because I was expecting a no. So that was the 338 00:15:48,876 --> 00:15:49,876 Speaker 2: magic moment for me. 339 00:15:50,156 --> 00:15:52,756 Speaker 1: Pleased with his success, John went home and posted the 340 00:15:52,836 --> 00:15:55,396 Speaker 1: Day three video, but it didn't get the handful of 341 00:15:55,516 --> 00:15:59,556 Speaker 1: use he was expecting. Millions of people watched that donut clip. 342 00:16:00,036 --> 00:16:02,756 Speaker 1: It got so much attention that his Olympic ring donut 343 00:16:02,756 --> 00:16:05,396 Speaker 1: story wound up one daytime television shows. 344 00:16:05,636 --> 00:16:08,676 Speaker 2: I think Krispy krim Stock actually went up that day. God, 345 00:16:08,716 --> 00:16:10,436 Speaker 2: there's like a marketer's dream, right. 346 00:16:10,716 --> 00:16:14,396 Speaker 3: Ask them for donuts that looked like Olympic rings and 347 00:16:14,996 --> 00:16:16,596 Speaker 3: I was like, no way, they're gonna say yes. 348 00:16:16,796 --> 00:16:18,476 Speaker 2: They couldn't say no to me. They were like, yeah, 349 00:16:18,516 --> 00:16:19,396 Speaker 2: how can I make this? 350 00:16:19,916 --> 00:16:22,476 Speaker 3: And when I left there, I just had tears in 351 00:16:22,516 --> 00:16:24,436 Speaker 3: my eyes because I just couldn't believe. 352 00:16:25,036 --> 00:16:27,156 Speaker 2: This world is much nicer than I thought. It's much 353 00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:28,076 Speaker 2: kinder than I thought. 354 00:16:28,676 --> 00:16:31,716 Speaker 1: Joe's donut success was a turning point for him. It 355 00:16:31,796 --> 00:16:35,156 Speaker 1: convinced him that he could successfully ask for just about anything, 356 00:16:35,636 --> 00:16:39,476 Speaker 1: and Shaw really did ask for rather strange things. He 357 00:16:39,516 --> 00:16:42,316 Speaker 1: asked to become a mannequin in a department store, to 358 00:16:42,356 --> 00:16:45,596 Speaker 1: give the safety announcement on an airplane, to slide down 359 00:16:45,596 --> 00:16:48,396 Speaker 1: the pole at a fire station, and defeed a lion 360 00:16:48,596 --> 00:16:49,196 Speaker 1: at the zoo. 361 00:16:49,476 --> 00:16:53,916 Speaker 2: There you go, Hold hold on, It's okay, it's right. 362 00:16:54,236 --> 00:16:57,356 Speaker 1: The videos that followed were as hilarious as they were popular, 363 00:16:58,356 --> 00:17:01,236 Speaker 1: like when he asked for a haircut from a dog groomer. 364 00:17:01,036 --> 00:17:04,316 Speaker 2: Can you see me like a German shepherd? Like tabetan 365 00:17:04,396 --> 00:17:06,756 Speaker 2: mastiff or or child chow or something. 366 00:17:07,556 --> 00:17:12,196 Speaker 1: Joe's video is eventually the attention of a certain psychologist, and. 367 00:17:12,196 --> 00:17:14,676 Speaker 4: I thought, this is fascinating, right, this is an extreme 368 00:17:14,836 --> 00:17:16,516 Speaker 4: version of what I did. 369 00:17:17,436 --> 00:17:20,556 Speaker 1: Psychologist Nick Epley's research had already shown that people are 370 00:17:20,596 --> 00:17:22,916 Speaker 1: more willing to help us out than we think, that 371 00:17:22,996 --> 00:17:26,276 Speaker 1: they react more positively than we expect to simple requests 372 00:17:26,436 --> 00:17:30,516 Speaker 1: like taking a quick polaroid photo. But watching Jav's YouTube videos, 373 00:17:30,756 --> 00:17:34,716 Speaker 1: Nick realized people may also agree to far more complicated requests. 374 00:17:35,156 --> 00:17:37,716 Speaker 5: I mean, it's off the charts what he asked people 375 00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:38,076 Speaker 5: to do. 376 00:17:38,636 --> 00:17:42,436 Speaker 1: Nick carefully analyzed Jav's videos, counting exactly how often his 377 00:17:42,516 --> 00:17:44,836 Speaker 1: pleas for help got rejected, and it. 378 00:17:44,796 --> 00:17:46,916 Speaker 5: Turns out less often than he's accepted. 379 00:17:47,876 --> 00:17:50,236 Speaker 4: That most of the time, a little over fifty percent 380 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:54,156 Speaker 4: of the time, to these crazy requests, the person does it. 381 00:17:55,036 --> 00:17:57,836 Speaker 1: Nick also watched to see the reactions of the strangers 382 00:17:57,836 --> 00:18:01,156 Speaker 1: that Jah approached. Did the donut makers and flight attendants 383 00:18:01,156 --> 00:18:03,196 Speaker 1: and zoo keepers get mad and yell at him and 384 00:18:03,196 --> 00:18:06,236 Speaker 1: tell them to go away? Or were they genuinely trying 385 00:18:06,316 --> 00:18:11,036 Speaker 1: to be kind and accommodating. Nickson was striking In the 386 00:18:11,116 --> 00:18:17,156 Speaker 1: vast majority of interactions, people reacted completely positively. Jaw's extreme 387 00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:20,196 Speaker 1: experiment and rejection therapy is a great example of two 388 00:18:20,236 --> 00:18:23,516 Speaker 1: things that our lying minds often get wrong. First, we 389 00:18:23,556 --> 00:18:27,156 Speaker 1: don't get rebuffed nearly as often as we fear, and second, 390 00:18:27,316 --> 00:18:30,076 Speaker 1: the people we ask for help are usually much happier 391 00:18:30,116 --> 00:18:32,996 Speaker 1: to oblige than we expect. But my guess is that 392 00:18:33,076 --> 00:18:35,836 Speaker 1: hearing Jaw's story didn't exactly prompt you to go out 393 00:18:35,876 --> 00:18:38,676 Speaker 1: and demand weird shaped donuts, or to borrow money from 394 00:18:38,716 --> 00:18:41,356 Speaker 1: strangers on the street, or to head into a lion's 395 00:18:41,396 --> 00:18:45,236 Speaker 1: den at dinner time. So what simple strategies can we 396 00:18:45,316 --> 00:18:48,116 Speaker 1: all employ to be more comfortable in asking for help, 397 00:18:48,556 --> 00:18:50,836 Speaker 1: Things that will allow us and the people around us 398 00:18:50,916 --> 00:18:53,916 Speaker 1: to enjoy the happiness benefits that come from bonding over 399 00:18:53,956 --> 00:18:57,436 Speaker 1: a helping hand. We'll find out when the Happiness Lab returns. 400 00:18:57,596 --> 00:18:58,596 Speaker 1: After this quick. 401 00:18:58,396 --> 00:19:10,996 Speaker 3: Break on dividing my life into BD and AD Before 402 00:19:11,076 --> 00:19:14,316 Speaker 3: donuts and after donuts. It was a watershed moment for 403 00:19:14,396 --> 00:19:16,116 Speaker 3: me because he opened up this whole new. 404 00:19:15,956 --> 00:19:16,516 Speaker 2: World to me. 405 00:19:17,116 --> 00:19:20,116 Speaker 1: A decade after asking a Krispy Kreme employee to build 406 00:19:20,156 --> 00:19:22,756 Speaker 1: him the Olympic Ring up donuts, John now runs the 407 00:19:22,876 --> 00:19:26,836 Speaker 1: very company that inspired him. Rejection therapy dot com. He's 408 00:19:26,836 --> 00:19:30,156 Speaker 1: also an in demand speaker and the author of Rejection Proof, 409 00:19:30,556 --> 00:19:33,516 Speaker 1: How I Beat Fear and became Invincible through one hundred 410 00:19:33,596 --> 00:19:34,316 Speaker 1: days of rejection. 411 00:19:34,596 --> 00:19:36,756 Speaker 3: I didn't plan this. I didn't plan this seem to 412 00:19:36,796 --> 00:19:39,076 Speaker 3: go viral, and someday I'll write a book. Some day, 413 00:19:39,076 --> 00:19:41,356 Speaker 3: I'll do a blog. You know, someday I will give 414 00:19:41,516 --> 00:19:44,476 Speaker 3: a Ted talk or beyond Laura Sentel's show. I'd never 415 00:19:44,556 --> 00:19:46,916 Speaker 3: planned all that. All I did was like, I'm gonna 416 00:19:46,916 --> 00:19:47,396 Speaker 3: do something. 417 00:19:47,836 --> 00:19:50,156 Speaker 1: And the viral videos joh made are now used by 418 00:19:50,236 --> 00:19:54,596 Speaker 1: clinicians to help patients with social anxiety. They may seem extreme, 419 00:19:54,956 --> 00:19:57,716 Speaker 1: but Jaw says they can still teach us important lessons 420 00:19:57,756 --> 00:20:01,156 Speaker 1: that we can apply in everyday settings. His first takeaway 421 00:20:01,356 --> 00:20:02,436 Speaker 1: is people. 422 00:20:02,156 --> 00:20:07,236 Speaker 3: Are actually much nicer than we think. People are actually 423 00:20:07,316 --> 00:20:10,316 Speaker 3: very open, especially if you awesome wacky stuff. 424 00:20:10,636 --> 00:20:12,956 Speaker 1: A second lesson is that your fears that people will 425 00:20:12,956 --> 00:20:15,236 Speaker 1: angrily reject you or think less of you if you 426 00:20:15,316 --> 00:20:19,076 Speaker 1: ask for assistance are likely to be very, very misplaced. 427 00:20:19,876 --> 00:20:22,436 Speaker 1: Jaw is living proof that you'll hear no far less 428 00:20:22,436 --> 00:20:23,196 Speaker 1: than you expect. 429 00:20:23,316 --> 00:20:25,036 Speaker 3: When I started, I thought I was going to get 430 00:20:25,116 --> 00:20:28,316 Speaker 3: one hundred rejections. You know, maybe like I got some yes, 431 00:20:28,316 --> 00:20:30,436 Speaker 3: as if you get really lucky. But as it turned out, 432 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:32,756 Speaker 3: sometimes just by asking you get it yes. 433 00:20:32,996 --> 00:20:35,356 Speaker 1: But to get to that yes, Jaw says, we also 434 00:20:35,436 --> 00:20:38,596 Speaker 1: need the courage to expose our vulnerabilities and to ignore 435 00:20:38,636 --> 00:20:40,916 Speaker 1: any worries we may have about seeming needy. 436 00:20:41,076 --> 00:20:42,636 Speaker 3: I don't want to bother other people, and you know 437 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:45,156 Speaker 3: I want to be independent. 438 00:20:44,916 --> 00:20:48,596 Speaker 1: Right, And the research backs this up. Psychologists have long 439 00:20:48,636 --> 00:20:51,436 Speaker 1: found evidence for what's known as the beautiful mess effect. 440 00:20:52,116 --> 00:20:54,156 Speaker 1: We assume that people will avoid us if we seem 441 00:20:54,236 --> 00:20:57,916 Speaker 1: needy or dependent on help, but it's actually just the opposite. 442 00:20:58,276 --> 00:21:00,956 Speaker 1: People like us better when we show weakness, or express 443 00:21:00,996 --> 00:21:04,836 Speaker 1: emotional vulnerability or seek their help. Being messy makes us 444 00:21:04,836 --> 00:21:06,436 Speaker 1: seem more open and relatable. 445 00:21:06,476 --> 00:21:08,636 Speaker 3: You're really good friends to ask for help, they ask 446 00:21:08,676 --> 00:21:11,036 Speaker 3: for opinion, they ask for help, and they're vulnerable to 447 00:21:11,076 --> 00:21:15,276 Speaker 3: each other. If you give and take, that really build relationships. 448 00:21:15,276 --> 00:21:18,516 Speaker 3: In fact, sometimes the fact that you're asking shows that Okay, 449 00:21:18,716 --> 00:21:21,596 Speaker 3: I'm asking you because I need you, and that's really 450 00:21:21,956 --> 00:21:24,316 Speaker 3: increases the bond you have with each other. 451 00:21:24,716 --> 00:21:28,196 Speaker 1: But connecting with potential helpers also requires changing the negative 452 00:21:28,236 --> 00:21:31,876 Speaker 1: mindset the many of us have about soliciting assistance. Your 453 00:21:32,036 --> 00:21:34,476 Speaker 1: tension while asking for help can make the whole interaction 454 00:21:34,716 --> 00:21:38,356 Speaker 1: less comfortable for everyone. It's something that Jah learned early 455 00:21:38,436 --> 00:21:39,996 Speaker 1: in his days of rejection therapy. 456 00:21:40,636 --> 00:21:44,356 Speaker 3: So I was expecting rejection and all my focus is 457 00:21:44,396 --> 00:21:47,276 Speaker 3: how I could deal with that rejection. I them couldn't 458 00:21:47,316 --> 00:21:49,596 Speaker 3: even think the possibility that people will say yes to me. 459 00:21:49,796 --> 00:21:52,156 Speaker 3: And if you don't bring this aggressive energy, you're not 460 00:21:52,196 --> 00:21:54,996 Speaker 3: that tense. People actually relax when they talk to them 461 00:21:55,876 --> 00:21:57,036 Speaker 3: to decrease that tension. 462 00:21:57,276 --> 00:21:59,636 Speaker 1: Jaw advises that you really do need to come to 463 00:21:59,756 --> 00:22:03,396 Speaker 1: terms with the possibility of being rebuffed and to relax 464 00:22:03,436 --> 00:22:03,836 Speaker 1: about it. 465 00:22:04,356 --> 00:22:05,156 Speaker 2: That's actually the key. 466 00:22:05,156 --> 00:22:07,996 Speaker 3: If I'm coming in and if I'm open to rejection, 467 00:22:08,436 --> 00:22:10,196 Speaker 3: then I'm fine. If I give the other person the 468 00:22:10,236 --> 00:22:12,596 Speaker 3: freedom to say no to me, I give myself the 469 00:22:12,676 --> 00:22:14,436 Speaker 3: freedom to ask whatever I want. 470 00:22:14,916 --> 00:22:17,596 Speaker 1: One way to do that, Shaw says is to explicitly 471 00:22:17,596 --> 00:22:20,076 Speaker 1: admit that what you're asking for might not be doable, 472 00:22:20,596 --> 00:22:22,996 Speaker 1: and that it's totally cool if the person can't help you, 473 00:22:23,716 --> 00:22:25,676 Speaker 1: that you know they're not doing it just bite you 474 00:22:25,956 --> 00:22:27,076 Speaker 1: or because they don't like you. 475 00:22:27,356 --> 00:22:29,756 Speaker 3: I say, Okay, I know I'm making a big request here. 476 00:22:29,876 --> 00:22:31,756 Speaker 3: I know this is a little bit weird, and it's 477 00:22:31,756 --> 00:22:33,836 Speaker 3: okay if you can't do it. If I put that 478 00:22:33,876 --> 00:22:37,356 Speaker 3: thing what they're doubting up front, it actually put people 479 00:22:37,396 --> 00:22:40,436 Speaker 3: at ease. He's saying that I can say. 480 00:22:40,236 --> 00:22:40,876 Speaker 2: No to this. 481 00:22:41,676 --> 00:22:44,276 Speaker 1: And if you're still feeling guilty about your request, Jaw 482 00:22:44,356 --> 00:22:47,076 Speaker 1: suggests thinking back to how you felt when someone asked 483 00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:49,916 Speaker 1: for help. Would you really be annoyed if the situation 484 00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:53,076 Speaker 1: was reversed. Joe says he even thinks back to cases 485 00:22:53,116 --> 00:22:55,756 Speaker 1: where he felt frustrated when good friends failed to call 486 00:22:55,796 --> 00:22:56,836 Speaker 1: on him when they were in need. 487 00:22:57,156 --> 00:23:00,356 Speaker 3: I had a friend and he spent like almost a 488 00:23:00,436 --> 00:23:03,476 Speaker 3: year looking for a job and he didn't ask for 489 00:23:03,476 --> 00:23:03,956 Speaker 3: any help. 490 00:23:04,036 --> 00:23:05,796 Speaker 2: It was really hard for him, and I was like, 491 00:23:05,996 --> 00:23:08,356 Speaker 2: you could have told me earlier that job. I know 492 00:23:08,436 --> 00:23:10,596 Speaker 2: someone who who was hiring for that job. Why did 493 00:23:10,676 --> 00:23:11,476 Speaker 2: you tell me earlier? 494 00:23:11,916 --> 00:23:15,436 Speaker 1: But Joe has one final strategy that makes seem counterintuitive 495 00:23:15,476 --> 00:23:19,556 Speaker 1: given his own experience. He recommends not going as hardcore 496 00:23:19,556 --> 00:23:20,076 Speaker 1: as he did. 497 00:23:20,476 --> 00:23:22,956 Speaker 3: Go outside of the comfort zone a little bit. Don't 498 00:23:22,996 --> 00:23:25,756 Speaker 3: go like way out. You don't have to come in 499 00:23:25,836 --> 00:23:27,556 Speaker 3: and ask for one hundred dollars like I did. 500 00:23:27,836 --> 00:23:30,396 Speaker 2: That was a big step. It's like an exercise right. 501 00:23:30,596 --> 00:23:33,236 Speaker 3: If you've never lifted weights, you don't want to come 502 00:23:33,276 --> 00:23:35,276 Speaker 3: in and bench press like three hundred pounds. 503 00:23:35,276 --> 00:23:36,156 Speaker 2: You're gonna get crushed. 504 00:23:36,196 --> 00:23:37,876 Speaker 3: But go out of your comfort zone a little bit 505 00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:40,796 Speaker 3: and just test the water, and then gradually expand your 506 00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:43,516 Speaker 3: comfort zone. You can start doing this again and again, 507 00:23:43,716 --> 00:23:45,716 Speaker 3: and every time you do, he becomes so much better 508 00:23:45,756 --> 00:23:46,276 Speaker 3: than before. 509 00:23:46,756 --> 00:23:49,076 Speaker 1: And Joe should know because asking for what he needed 510 00:23:49,116 --> 00:23:52,236 Speaker 1: publicly and fighting his fear of rejection didn't just change 511 00:23:52,236 --> 00:23:52,796 Speaker 1: his life. 512 00:23:52,996 --> 00:23:55,836 Speaker 3: Jackie from Krispy Kreme right that the person said yes 513 00:23:55,836 --> 00:23:58,716 Speaker 3: to me to make Olympic donuts, it changed her life too. 514 00:23:59,076 --> 00:24:02,676 Speaker 1: Jackie Brown also went viral for those Olympic donuts. A 515 00:24:02,756 --> 00:24:05,396 Speaker 1: viewer of Jaw's video even made her a Facebook page 516 00:24:05,556 --> 00:24:08,956 Speaker 1: entitled give Jackie a Krispy Kreme a Raise, and thousands 517 00:24:08,996 --> 00:24:10,636 Speaker 1: of people sign the petition. 518 00:24:10,956 --> 00:24:15,516 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you, I mean very very much. 519 00:24:16,236 --> 00:24:19,396 Speaker 1: She received a personal visit from the CEO of Krispy Kreme, 520 00:24:19,876 --> 00:24:22,396 Speaker 1: and she now stars in training videos that are used 521 00:24:22,436 --> 00:24:23,676 Speaker 1: by the entire corporation. 522 00:24:23,876 --> 00:24:26,676 Speaker 2: She become like a celebrity within her company just all 523 00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:29,236 Speaker 2: because she say yes. Sometimes saying yes is more. 524 00:24:29,156 --> 00:24:31,996 Speaker 1: Fun that saying no, and John thinks we'd all benefit 525 00:24:32,116 --> 00:24:34,476 Speaker 1: from the fun of asking for help more often. 526 00:24:35,036 --> 00:24:36,716 Speaker 2: Rejection therapy has become a movement. 527 00:24:36,836 --> 00:24:39,716 Speaker 3: It just feels my heart because I hope this movement 528 00:24:39,756 --> 00:24:42,436 Speaker 3: can keep going and to help people overcome their fear. 529 00:24:45,956 --> 00:24:47,996 Speaker 1: So many of us are missing out on making new 530 00:24:48,036 --> 00:24:52,076 Speaker 1: social connections or deepening our bonds with existing friends just 531 00:24:52,116 --> 00:24:55,116 Speaker 1: because we don't want to ask for help or favors that. 532 00:24:55,196 --> 00:24:57,996 Speaker 1: Maybe because we don't want to appear annoying or vulnerable, 533 00:24:58,436 --> 00:25:01,476 Speaker 1: or because we fear the humiliation of our pleas being rejected. 534 00:25:01,756 --> 00:25:04,276 Speaker 1: But the science shows that our worries about being pushy 535 00:25:04,316 --> 00:25:07,356 Speaker 1: and needy are unfounded. People are way more happy to 536 00:25:07,396 --> 00:25:09,956 Speaker 1: help than our lying minds think, and our reluctance to 537 00:25:09,996 --> 00:25:12,236 Speaker 1: ask for help once at preventing the people we care 538 00:25:12,276 --> 00:25:15,556 Speaker 1: about from receiving the happiness boost that comes with being kind. 539 00:25:16,956 --> 00:25:19,956 Speaker 1: So why not follow Jah's advice and push your rejection 540 00:25:20,036 --> 00:25:22,316 Speaker 1: comfort zone a bit. You don't need to ask a 541 00:25:22,356 --> 00:25:25,556 Speaker 1: stranger for money or demand specialized donuts, but you can 542 00:25:25,636 --> 00:25:28,316 Speaker 1: make sure you give the people in your life opportunities 543 00:25:28,356 --> 00:25:31,116 Speaker 1: to support and care for you. It'll make them and 544 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:45,516 Speaker 1: you feel much better than you expect. The Happiness Lab 545 00:25:45,556 --> 00:25:48,276 Speaker 1: is co written and produced by Ryan Dilley. Our original 546 00:25:48,316 --> 00:25:51,956 Speaker 1: music was composed by Zachary Silver, with additional scoring, mixing 547 00:25:51,996 --> 00:25:55,596 Speaker 1: and mastering by Evan Viola. Jess Shane and Alice Vines 548 00:25:55,636 --> 00:25:59,156 Speaker 1: offered additional production support. Special thanks to my agent, Ben 549 00:25:59,236 --> 00:26:01,876 Speaker 1: Davis and all of the Pushkin proved. The Happiness Lab 550 00:26:01,916 --> 00:26:04,556 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Pushkin Industries and me, Doctor 551 00:26:04,596 --> 00:26:13,516 Speaker 1: Larry Santos