WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: All I Need To Know

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horne. Thanks for downloading the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth podcast, the That's All Line Need to Know

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<v Speaker 1>audition as we go inside the Bengals draft room to

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<v Speaker 1>review this year's class with Director of Scouting Mike Potts.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus five fun questions with first round draft pick a

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<v Speaker 1>Marius Mims and Dax Hill reacts to moving from safety

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since Premier League relegation and promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are some people that listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast in the UK and some of you may know

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<v Speaker 1>that my favorite soccer club is Leicester City. Well, last

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<v Speaker 1>year the Foxes finished in the bottom three of the

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<v Speaker 1>Premier League standings, meaning they got relegated to the second

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<v Speaker 1>tier of English soccer. The bottom three finishers go down

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<v Speaker 1>a level and the top three from the so called

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<v Speaker 1>English Football League Championship move up. Well, I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>report that Leicester City is going back up. They clinched

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<v Speaker 1>the top two finish and a return to the Premier

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<v Speaker 1>League last week. So to my fellow members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Greater Cincinnati Leicester City Supporters Club, I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>being reunited next season watching matches together at Rhinehouse. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to football, more specifically American football. After being

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<v Speaker 1>selected in the first round by the Bengals on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>A Marius Mams came to Cincinnati for an introductory news

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<v Speaker 1>conference the next day. As I stood there talking to

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<v Speaker 1>him with fellow reporters, I had this thought, how could

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<v Speaker 1>a pass rusher possibly get by this guy? You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>his height and weight six' eight three forty, but somehow

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't do his enormity justice. Consider this, His wingspan

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<v Speaker 1>is eighty six and three quarter inches, So when a

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<v Speaker 1>Marius stretches out his arms, it's the equivalent of Kareem

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<v Speaker 1>Abdul Jabbar seven feet two inches. He's a genetic freak

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<v Speaker 1>in every way. Mims did a series of one on

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<v Speaker 1>one TV interviews on Friday, so when I sat down

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<v Speaker 1>with him, I thought we would have a little fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>For five questions with the eighteenth pick in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four NFL Draft, Marius Mims. I'll actually make it

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<v Speaker 1>six questions because the first question, how did that sound?

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<v Speaker 1>The eighteenth pick of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft?

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<v Speaker 2>This sounds great, honestly, like I said, especially going through

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<v Speaker 2>the same as Cincinnati Bengals. Man, you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>blessed and I'm very thankful for them picking me at eighteen. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how much to be thankful for? All?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Question number one? I talked to a draft guru

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL Scouting Combine who said the following, Marius

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<v Speaker 1>Mims was built in a lab to be an offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you always a giant in comparison to the other kids?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you remember the first time somebody said, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be an offensive lineman someday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I remember, you know, being tallering there like all

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<v Speaker 2>my class basic stuff, playing regressional league. But the first

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<v Speaker 2>time somebody told me that you're going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>office tackle. Was going into my sophomore high school when

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<v Speaker 2>I switched my position from defensive land to office tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you embraced it, you, sir, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It took me a little while at this, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Okay, they can do it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number two, According to everything I read, you did

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<v Speaker 1>not allow a sack at Georgia. Is that the case?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you remember the last sack you gave up?

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<v Speaker 1>At any level? Have you given one up?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say in high school, I gave one

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<v Speaker 2>up Washington County. I want to say. I remember my

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<v Speaker 2>junior year. It was like, I'm blocking the guy for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. I thought the ball was going. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>turning around. I'm blocking to do it again. My quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>still right here, can't He's out of my vengs. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's running. So I started blocking. Do I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to run on the field and he's still there and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see him on the ground. I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And my coach was like, mel Compin, It's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, naug have the sack, Like I need to

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<v Speaker 2>go regroup.

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<v Speaker 1>So three years at Georgia, going back to your junior

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<v Speaker 1>year of high school, it's been five years since you've

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<v Speaker 1>surrendered a sack.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll give you one every five years. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>good at Cincinnati. Question number three, we have all seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movie The blind Side where the Michael Orr character

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<v Speaker 1>completely blocks a player right off the field. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>best story along those lines of, you know, blocking a

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<v Speaker 1>guy twenty yards downfield, pancaking a cup bull of guys

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<v Speaker 1>with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Best I'll definitely say Tennessee game. Me and Tate we

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<v Speaker 2>had a twist pick up against Tennessee and we like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Ali the guy in the ear. He came

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<v Speaker 2>in like chokes lamb almost and it was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>definitely gotta watch that. It was definitely, it was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a good play. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>This year's Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Gaines, sir, Is there this year's Tennessee game?

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<v Speaker 1>You Ali opa guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, yes there. It was great. First I feel

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<v Speaker 2>bad for him, but it was great all right.

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<v Speaker 1>First time I've ever heard the alley oop is a

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<v Speaker 1>football term. I look forward to checking it out. Question four.

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<v Speaker 1>You were part of two national championship teams at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe what it's like when the confetti is falling and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know that you've captured a national championship ring

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're thinking about a lot, honestly, think about

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<v Speaker 2>like all the hard work, guys, you've done, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, All the times you got cussed out

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<v Speaker 2>by coach, all the hard practices.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been throom.

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<v Speaker 2>You literally it's just it's just all history and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it was all worth it. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>those both the years, you know, just just very blessed

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<v Speaker 2>going to a great university like Georgia. You know, went

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<v Speaker 2>in two years in a row, and it's just I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's awesome feeling cause everything come back and get your

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<v Speaker 2>full circle. You're like, I did all this, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it was for a great cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the rings on display somewhere? Do you actually break

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<v Speaker 1>them out?

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<v Speaker 3>I had them last night at my draft party.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mom has to say and my dad has

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I let them keep them.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, alright. Fifth and final question for Marius Mems. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us something about you that very few people know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I love hunt hogs, deer hunt and I duck hunt

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<v Speaker 2>and then I fish a lot too, so I fish

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<v Speaker 2>for bass, I go, I go DC fishing sometimes. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm very outdoors. So if anybody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to go fishing, you know, or hunt, please let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been Cincinnati in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You are going to hear from somebody hogs duck and

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<v Speaker 1>what deer hogs? Duck and deer hogs was the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I love. I love hogger and especially with the

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<v Speaker 1>thermal scope ars. So, like I said, I'm being Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks, y'all feel free to hear me up

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<v Speaker 1>if y'all know any spots I want to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect you're going to be hearing from plenty of Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>fans along those lines. All right, you're off the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time, look forward to SEENI in action.

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<v Speaker 3>So I appreciate you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you heard the man. If you are an avid

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<v Speaker 1>hunter or fisher and live in the Cincinnati area, al

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<v Speaker 1>Marius is looking for a good guide. Before I get

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<v Speaker 1>to my conversation with the Bengals scouting director, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for an in depth look at this year's

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<v Speaker 1>draft class with Mike Potts. Mike. When the Bengals around

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<v Speaker 1>the clock in the first round with the eighteenth overall pick,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the top cornerbacks in the draft are still

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. Another highly regarded offensive lineman, Troy fot

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<v Speaker 1>Utana was still their wide receiver Brian Thomas out of

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<v Speaker 1>LSU is still there. What tipped the scales in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of a Marius Mims?

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<v Speaker 4>A Marius is a guy that we've been scouting for

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<v Speaker 4>a few years now and have really high regard for.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the premium position that he plays.

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<v Speaker 4>Of offensive tackle and just his size, length, talent level,

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<v Speaker 4>we felt that it was too good to pass up.

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<v Speaker 4>We end up ranking our whole board between positions one

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<v Speaker 4>through eighteen, and he was the highest guy up there

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<v Speaker 4>on our board, and we feel really good about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We feel like with the players that we have on

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<v Speaker 4>offense and defense, if we can protect our quarterback, which

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<v Speaker 4>Amrius will help to do, we think we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be right there playing in the important games that really

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<v Speaker 4>matter late in the season.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's part of what it really came

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<v Speaker 3>down to at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>He has tremendous upside as much as any of the

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<v Speaker 1>tackles taken in this draft, including Joe Alto is the

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<v Speaker 1>first one taken did the current roster in the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have to start right away allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to take a chance on an inexperienced player only eight

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<v Speaker 1>college starts with the thought that you might be getting

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl talent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Signing Trent Brown in free agency was huge for

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<v Speaker 4>us because he's a quality starting tackle in the league

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<v Speaker 4>who's played both right and left tackles. So we can

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<v Speaker 4>bring Amrius along at whatever pace is appropriate for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether he's ready to start year one or whether he's

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<v Speaker 4>ready to start year two, that's that's up to a

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<v Speaker 4>Marius and our coaches and their development plan there. But

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<v Speaker 4>we are very fortunate to put him into the position

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<v Speaker 4>that he's in. He did he did play a good

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<v Speaker 4>amount in college outside of those those eight starts, he

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<v Speaker 4>was in a rotation there, So there's there's tape to

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<v Speaker 4>look at, and it's the good news is it's high

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<v Speaker 4>quality tape, uh for for the most part, outside of

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<v Speaker 4>some of the games when he was a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>less than one hundred percent with the ankle this year.

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<v Speaker 4>So we feel really good about the evaluation that we

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<v Speaker 4>have from him in the limit at SAM size, and

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<v Speaker 4>we feel really good about the situation that we're putting

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<v Speaker 4>him into with two veteran starting caliber tackles that he

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<v Speaker 4>can learn from and come along at the pace that's appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been classified that instead of going for the double,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals wet for a home run. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>there might have been a slightly safer pick available on

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<v Speaker 1>the board. This is the guy that has the most upside.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a fair characterization of what you did.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say yes and no. We don't necessarily feel like

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<v Speaker 4>he's a risky pick. Every player that is up there

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<v Speaker 4>in the draft, no matter how highly rated or low

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<v Speaker 4>that they're rated, they all have risks. There's deficiencies and

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<v Speaker 4>negatives and holes that you can pick in in every

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<v Speaker 4>single prospect that was on every team's draft board.

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<v Speaker 3>So his is a lack of play experience, but we.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't necessarily see him as a risky swing for the

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<v Speaker 4>fence's type of pick or a possible strikeout, because again,

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch his tate, he's a highly talented player.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like he's a guy just with rare traits

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<v Speaker 4>but super inconsistent on his tape and you're just saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>if he could put it all together, then maybe we

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<v Speaker 4>would have something. His tape is really good. It just

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<v Speaker 4>happens to be in a limited sample size, So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he has a little bit higher floor than what has

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<v Speaker 4>some of the reports out there have been.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with director of scouting Mike Potts. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>some people listening to this are familiar with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Kent Lee Platt who invented our as relative athletic score.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been critical of the Bengals in the past for

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<v Speaker 1>not drafting athletic or elite athletic offensive lineman. The two

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen you drafted this year, Mims and your seventh

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<v Speaker 1>rounder Matt Lee, both had elite athletic grades. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>looking to target more athletic offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 3>We're always looking for the best of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>We want really good athletes who are also strong, instinctive, physical,

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<v Speaker 4>have really good power in their lower body and through

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<v Speaker 4>their hips to move people off of their spot in

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<v Speaker 4>the run game, Guys with length. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>that goes into it, and we're looking for the best

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<v Speaker 4>in all areas. Athleticism is certainly one of them that

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<v Speaker 4>we look to upgrade for sure, and those two guys,

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<v Speaker 4>like you mentioned that, we took our very good athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>but they also are good in a number of other

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<v Speaker 4>areas as well, like I mentioned, with the physicality, the

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<v Speaker 4>instincts that they have, the technique that they play with.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's you know, not one area that you can

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<v Speaker 4>just hone in on and say, hey, we want the

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<v Speaker 4>guy with the high testing numbers in terms of athleticism,

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<v Speaker 4>because the tape has to match up and they have

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<v Speaker 4>to be a good player in other areas.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't just be a good athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>An obvious area of need on the roster. With defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>you use two top one hundred picks on the interior

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line Chris Jenkins in the second round, McKinley Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>in the third. Both team captains, both very productive college players.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you like most at Jenkins and Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we really like both of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a position that we wanted to address. They're a

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<v Speaker 4>defensive tackle. We got two guys maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>different styles. Chris Jenkins is more of that true defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 4>can get upfield and rush as a three technique, but

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<v Speaker 4>also in the way they utilized him at Michigan. He

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<v Speaker 4>can play stout, he can two gap, he can play

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<v Speaker 4>the run. He's got really long arms, and again, like

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned, an explosive athlete with more upside, maybe even

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<v Speaker 4>than he's already shown to this point as a pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're really happy about Chris. We're really happy that

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<v Speaker 4>we got him there in the second round. And then McKinley,

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<v Speaker 4>like you mentioned, is maybe more of a true nose tackle,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, three hundred and thirty pound range nose tackle

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<v Speaker 4>with also really long arms, and he's a physical, violent

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<v Speaker 4>player who can stop the run. He's instinctive. He also

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<v Speaker 4>has upside as a pass rusher as well. So two

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<v Speaker 4>different body types, two different skill sets, but we think

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<v Speaker 4>both of those guys are really going to help us

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<v Speaker 4>in both the run game and pass game, and upgrade

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<v Speaker 4>our interior defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>The pick in between those two guys was wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Jermaine Burton, who started his college career at Georgia and

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<v Speaker 1>finished it at Alabama. An unbelievably explosive athlete broad jump

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<v Speaker 1>of more than eleven feet thirty eight and a half

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<v Speaker 1>inch vertical. Strictly in terms of talent, How good is

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<v Speaker 1>Jermaine Burton?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jermaine's a phenomenal talent. We had strong conviction amongst

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<v Speaker 4>our scouting staff, our ownership, and coaching staff on this player,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been tracking him for a number of years now.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in twenty twenty, I remember during the COVID year

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<v Speaker 4>when we as scouts could only go and sit in

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<v Speaker 4>the stands at games. I remember seeing him at Georgia

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<v Speaker 4>against Mississippi State and he went for eight catches I

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<v Speaker 4>think one hundred and ninety seven yards and two touchdowns

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<v Speaker 4>in that game. So that was kind of my first

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<v Speaker 4>impression of Jermaine and then have been tracking him ever

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<v Speaker 4>since over the past four years of his college career,

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<v Speaker 4>both at Georgia and Alabama. He's a guy that we

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<v Speaker 4>brought in and interviewed at the Combine, I got a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to look him in the eye and you really

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<v Speaker 4>get a feel for what makes him tick and his

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<v Speaker 4>personal character. And then we also brought him in later

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<v Speaker 4>in the process on one of our thirty visits, so

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<v Speaker 4>got to spend a full day with him and again

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<v Speaker 4>gain that confidence and who he is and what he's

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<v Speaker 4>all about. And at the end of the day, we

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<v Speaker 4>think he's a guy that can really help us as

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<v Speaker 4>an explosive.

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<v Speaker 3>Weapon in the past game.

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<v Speaker 4>And like the competitive nature that he plays with and

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<v Speaker 4>the ability to play potentially outside and inside for us

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<v Speaker 4>and add another explosive element to our offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So you kind of addressed my next question already about

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the bottom of some of the maturity questions

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<v Speaker 1>involving Jermaine Burton. I take it from your visit at

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<v Speaker 1>the Combine and his visit to Cincinnati for one of

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<v Speaker 1>those Top thirty visits that you essentially determined this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad guy. It's a guy who has occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>had trouble controlling his emotions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would not say a bad guy at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with the emotional stuff that we also view some

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<v Speaker 4>of that as a positive terms of his competitiveness and

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<v Speaker 4>the fire that he plays with on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>We went through the whole process on him and did

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<v Speaker 4>all of our homework, talked to as many people as

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<v Speaker 4>we could, and then at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>the best thing we have going for us is, like

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned, our whole staff, you know, from multiple different

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<v Speaker 4>departments and everybody that evaluated him and was part of

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<v Speaker 4>the process of doing work on Jermaine. We're all on

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<v Speaker 4>board with adding the player, and we're rooting for him

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to do our best to put the

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<v Speaker 4>support in place here in Cincinnati for him to be

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<v Speaker 4>as successful as possible as a Bengal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing a lot of the people listening saw the

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<v Speaker 1>video that was posted of Zach Taylor in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>room after the selection of Jermaine Burton pounding the table

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<v Speaker 1>with excitement. Was he especially high on Jermaine? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat unusual to see Zach do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jermaine, I'm sorry, Zach was really excited after that pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Zach is excited after a lot of our picks.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that one just got caught on TV and was

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<v Speaker 4>more widely publicized, But I think Zach is great in

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<v Speaker 4>our process in general. I wouldn't just point to one

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<v Speaker 4>specific player. I mean, you could ask him his personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want to speak for him, but he's great

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<v Speaker 4>in our overall scouting process, just in terms of really

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<v Speaker 4>watching the film, really taking the time to meet with

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<v Speaker 4>all of these guys on the visits on zoom, in

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<v Speaker 4>our interviews, and he's great to work with. So when

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<v Speaker 4>he has that level of excitement for a player, it

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<v Speaker 4>really means something.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting the director of scouting, Mike Potts. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>to Day three, Round four. Your first pick was tight

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<v Speaker 1>end Eric All. He's a local kid from Cincinnati, went

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<v Speaker 1>to Fairfield High School, started his college career at Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a captain there, then finished up at Iowa.

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<v Speaker 1>I was speaking to Dj Turner, his former Michigan teammate,

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<v Speaker 1>who said that Eric All would have been a first

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<v Speaker 1>round pick if not for the back and knee injuries

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<v Speaker 1>that he had in his college career. Is Dj Turner

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<v Speaker 1>accurate or is that a former college teammate saying nice

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<v Speaker 1>things about his guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very talented. I don't know if he would have

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<v Speaker 4>been a first round picker or not. We had very

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<v Speaker 4>high grades on him. We think he's got starting caliber

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<v Speaker 4>ability in his body in terms of his physical talent.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody knows he's coming off the injury right now, so

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do our best to get that rehab and bring

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<v Speaker 4>him along at the appropriate pace in terms of when

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<v Speaker 4>he may be ready and you know, make sure he's

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<v Speaker 4>full strength once he can get out there and make

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<v Speaker 4>an impact for us. So whether that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>coming right out of the gate as a rookie, or

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<v Speaker 4>that's into the future, we'll have to determine that at

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<v Speaker 4>a later date. But yes, he's a very talented guy

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<v Speaker 4>that we were again very high on from a scouting

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<v Speaker 4>perspective throughout the evaluation process and with the medical concern

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<v Speaker 4>that some teams maybe have, it's a little bit difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to put that exact evaluation or pinpoint where on the

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<v Speaker 4>board you actually pull him off in terms of draft

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<v Speaker 4>round and at the end of the day, we felt

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<v Speaker 4>fortunate that he was still there for us the fourth

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<v Speaker 4>round and think he can be a real impact player

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<v Speaker 4>for us into the future.

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<v Speaker 1>He took another tight end two rounds later, Tanner McLaughlin

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<v Speaker 1>out of Arizona. Why did you double down on the

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<v Speaker 1>tight end position in rounds four and six.

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<v Speaker 4>Tenner's a guy we would have considered even earlier than that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think the short answer to your question is

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<v Speaker 4>he was the best player available. We think he's a

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<v Speaker 4>real dynamic guy in the past game, still has some

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<v Speaker 4>more upside in his body as a as a blocker.

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<v Speaker 4>He is physical, he is willing, but he's he's really

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<v Speaker 4>explosive in the past game, really good hands. Don't think

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<v Speaker 4>he had any drops on the year this year, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, run after catch, stuff, separation in the past

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<v Speaker 4>game as a route runner are all are all very

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<v Speaker 4>very good traits that he has in his game. So

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, I think we ended

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<v Speaker 4>up adding a lot of depth to our tight end position.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a spot that we didn't have a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of numbers at in that room going into the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>But to add both of these guys, both Eric and Tanner,

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<v Speaker 4>to that tight end room, I think that's a strength

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<v Speaker 4>on our roster right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner was on college rosters for six years. He's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old. How heavily do you consider age in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft?

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<v Speaker 4>Age is definitely a factor the you know, sometimes it

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<v Speaker 4>can be a good thing in terms of the age,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy may be more ready to come in and.

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<v Speaker 3>Play right away, maybe more mature.

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<v Speaker 4>He may be further along in his personal life off

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<v Speaker 4>the field and have everything squared away that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a negative the age, you know, maybe in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of if everything's even on the maturity level of the

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<v Speaker 4>character all that stuff, sometimes you could lean to a

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 4>younger guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. I can't speak for the other teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the age is part of a reason that he

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<v Speaker 4>fell a little bit lower, But we feel fortunate to

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<v Speaker 4>get Tanner there in the sixth round because we think

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<v Speaker 4>his talent was higher than that.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fifth round, he took a corner back, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Newton out of TCU. After the draft, Zach Taylor told

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<v Speaker 1>reporters that Dax Hill is going to be moving to

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<v Speaker 1>corner back. Did that impact how you dealt with drafting

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<v Speaker 1>a cornerback this year?

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted to address corner either way.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had discussions about Dak's you know, going over the

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<v Speaker 4>past couple of months, and we want to get our

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<v Speaker 4>best players out there. With dj Ivy coming off of

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<v Speaker 4>the injury that that he's coming off of, we felt

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<v Speaker 4>like corner was a position that we could address and

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<v Speaker 4>had a young guy in that room. We obviously really

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<v Speaker 4>liked Dax Hill, We really liked dj Ivy, We really

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<v Speaker 4>really like all of the corners that we have in

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<v Speaker 4>that room. We just felt like it was a spot

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<v Speaker 4>where we could add one more guy that had a

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<v Speaker 4>clear path to make the team. And Josh Newton is

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that we also had high grades on amongst

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<v Speaker 4>our scouting staff, our coaching staff, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Really had a high regard for.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, another guy that that we felt could have went

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<v Speaker 4>higher than than he actually did on draft Day and

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<v Speaker 4>feel fortunate to get him there in the fifth round.

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<v Speaker 4>We like his his versatility, physicality, instincts. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>a really really productive player there at TCU who had

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<v Speaker 4>a high profile in the scouting community, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're excited to get him out here and see what

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<v Speaker 4>he can do forty pass breakup seven interceptions in his

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<v Speaker 4>college career.

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<v Speaker 1>His defensive coordinator called him the ultimate competitor. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>intrigued by Josh Newton the more I see and read

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<v Speaker 1>about him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we are too, We're very intrigued. He's a name

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<v Speaker 4>that just kept coming up as we were discussing and

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 4>going through the corner position just in terms, like you said,

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 4>his production, his intangibles, his instincts.

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 3>He tested well as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, ran a four to four seven. He's a

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 4>very high character guy, clean medically. So there's not a

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 4>lot to not like about Josh Newton in his game,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, we're really excited about adding that competition

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 4>to our corner room. Whether that was perceived as a

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 4>high need or a low need publicly, I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's a position that we wanted to address and

0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that it shook out there where we were

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:00.880
<v Speaker 4>able to fire him where we did.

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I saw four or five to one at

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the combine, so he ran a four to four to seven.

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.479
<v Speaker 4>In later testing, I believe we had two times on him.

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 4>You know that they run two times at the combine.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 4>I think it was a four four seven and a

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 4>four to five to one were the two times that

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 4>we had in our system. The way we usually do

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 4>it is we have our scouts doing handheld times down

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 4>there on the field. We also get handheld times from

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 4>the combine, and then there's electronic.

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Times on that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have a formula that we use in terms

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 4>of throwing out the outliers and then averaging the rest

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.880
<v Speaker 4>of the numbers. So it's never a huge discrepancy from

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers that may be reported, but it may be

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 4>off a couple hundreds here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, final three picks and edge rusher Cedric Johnson

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>out of All Miss, safety Dejon Anthony, his teammate at

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>All Miss, and center Matt Lee out of Miami after

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>starting his college career at UCF. Tell us a little

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>bit about each of those guys, Cedric Johnson, Dejon Anthony,

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and Matt Lee.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the two Ole Miss teammates, Cedric Johnson and Dejon Anthony.

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 4>We were really glad to get all three of those

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 4>guys that we got. But starting with the Old Miss guy,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Cedric Johnson is a guy that we've been looking at.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 3>For a few years.

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Really explosive, fast, powerful pass rusher who can play the

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 4>run as well.

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<v Speaker 3>He was another guy, you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean to be repetitive, but he was the top guy

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 4>on our board there when we got him in the

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 4>sixth round. We really like our defensive end room in

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 4>our edge spot that we have on the roster. It's

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 4>probably one of the deeper spots that we have. But again,

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 4>you take a guy, you build out that depth, and

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 4>you never know how the competition will play out in

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 4>training camp. You never know into the season how injuries

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 4>could play out. So I think you can't go wrong

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 4>with taking a high caliber guy who's the best player

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 4>on the board. And he's another guy who's who's a

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 4>great character, very smart, you know, loves football, great work, habits,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 4>clean medically, all of those things that you like in

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 4>terms of taking a clean prospect. He checks a lot

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 4>of boxes, did a good job down there at the

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 4>Senior Bowl when we scouted him down there as well,

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 4>So we feel glad that we were able to get Cedric.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 4>And then his teammate, Dejon was a guy that we

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 4>brought in on a thirty visit. Very energetic, passionate player,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 4>very competitive, He's got versatility. He's played some safety this

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 4>year and also corner throughout his career. You know, he

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.719
<v Speaker 4>had a winding path to get there at all, miss

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 4>starting his career out at two other schools. But we

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 4>really like his makeup, his competitiveness, his passion for the

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 4>game of football. After we spent a full day with

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 4>him on that visit, We interviewed him down at the

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<v Speaker 4>East West Shrine game as well during the All Star

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 4>scouting process. So he's a valuable guy with versatility and

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 4>the demeanor and personality to potentially contribute for us on

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 4>special teams units as well to help Daron out. So

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 4>again for a seventh round pick, we think we think

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 4>he checks a lot of boxes and is to be

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<v Speaker 4>a guy who competes to to really make this roster

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 4>and have a have an impact for us on game

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 4>day potentially.

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 3>And then Matt Lee it was our last pick.

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 4>He's another guy that we had a lot of love

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 4>for throughout the scouting process. We also interviewed him down

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 4>there at the East West Shrine game as well. Like

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 4>I said with Dejon Anthony, he's a very athletic center,

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 4>very instinctive physical player. Really like his character, makeup and

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 4>the passion that he plays with. Sources there at Miami

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 4>rave about this guy's character and makeup, and you know,

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 4>we think he has he has really hot potential at

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 4>that center position. He's kind of about all the right

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 4>stuff and a really good player there on tape at Miami.

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 4>So we're excited to get him him into into the

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 4>system and you know, get working with our coaches and

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 4>see where he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me like most of these guys came

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>in for top thirty visits, and maybe in the past

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>that could be wrong about this, but it kind of

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like more of those visits would go to guys

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't know much about. They weren't combine invites,

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe more quote unquote long shots. Have you changed your

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>approach so that those top thirty visits are largely for

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.959
<v Speaker 1>guys that you are you know, have high on your

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>board and are strongly considering drafting.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Have necessarily changed our approach wholesale, so to say, we

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 4>evaluated on a year to year basis, and this year,

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 4>just the way the board fell, we felt very strongly

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 4>about some of the some of the top guys at

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 4>a number of different positions and really wanted to do

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 4>our homework on them. We always bring in non combined

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 4>guys to make sure we get the medical on them,

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 4>and you know, in terms of if they're not at

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 4>the combine, we don't have that full medical work up.

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 4>You want to have that confidence in that piece of

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 4>the evaluation to draft them.

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 3>We did.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 4>We still did bring in a good number of non

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 4>combined guys, a good number of potential later round targets.

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Dejon Anthony.

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 4>We didn't know if he would be there in the

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 4>later rounds or not, but we knew going into the

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 4>process that he's a guy that could fit in a

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 4>lot of different areas for us and a guy that

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 4>we had targeted.

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 3>And wanted to do the full work up on them.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Now, a lot of times we bring guys in and

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 4>they have the opposite impression. Potentially they could be a

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 4>guy that you end up crossing off of your list

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 4>due to your exposure on the visit because you don't

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 4>like their football intelligence, their character, their medical assessment, at

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 4>whatever the case is. So I wouldn't say there's an

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 4>exact rhyme or reason to looking at exactly who we

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 4>bring in and oh, these are the top guys that

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 4>were really targeting. The guys don't actually become a target

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 4>until we've worked through our whole meetings in April, and

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 4>then you're leading up to the week before the draft.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 4>That's when they actually become a target. Earlier in the

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 4>process with the visits, there are just potential targets that

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 4>could work themselves up the board or down the board.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>According to how that visit goes.

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>How close were you to trading out at any point?

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>We were very close. A number of times.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 4>It felt like there was probably one hundred or so calls.

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many exactly there were, but we're

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 4>constantly working the phone lines, you know, text calls, and

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 4>there's constant conversation. We had plenty of plenty of conversations

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 4>about moving up and moving back. But at the end

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 4>of the day, we felt fortunate that there was enough

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 4>players there that we felt good about, and we were

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 4>able to stay patient in each of our ten picks

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 4>and get a guy that we felt really good about

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 4>without having to fall down a level of player.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It's been publicly reported that the Falcons reached out with

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the possible idea of moving up to number eighteen, and

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>we're considering giving you their first round pick in next

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>year's draft. However, had that deal come to fruition, you

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>would have had to drop back into the middle of

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the second round before taking a pick. This year. That

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it didn't come to pass because the guy they were

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>interested in got drafted a few picks before the Bengals,

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But in any case, would that have been hard to

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>do to have gone all the way back into the

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>middle of the second round, even though would have meant

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>getting a first round or next year.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I saw that that was publicly reported. I mean, obviously,

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 4>all those trade discussions are confidential. We wouldn't want to

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 4>put any any team's you know, private discussions out there publicly.

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I did see that that specific one was reported that

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta was looking to come up to target some specific players.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 4>It's there's always a conversation on how far you're willing

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 4>to move back. Do you have enough players that you

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 4>feel comfortable with the trade compensation being worth maybe moving

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 4>back and moving off of players that you have targeted

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 4>in that given round. You know, there's a number of

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 4>times that we had opportunities to move back, but we

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to move off of the players that we

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 4>had targeted in those rounds, so we chose not to.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 4>Like I said, there's tons of calls constantly going on.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually surprised with how many discussions we had that

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>we didn't end up moving or trading at all. I

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 4>feel like every year we at least have a couple

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, one, one, two, three trades or so, and

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 4>this year it just didn't work. Out that, But it

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 4>wasn't for lack of effort or trying, both on our

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>part and other team's parts reaching out to us.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 3>That's just the way it shook out this year.

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Why do you start working on the class at twenty five?

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 4>Probably h take most of the rest of this week

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 4>to exhale, you know, rehash this. This draft class always

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 4>great talking with guys like you and and you know,

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 4>going going back through it, it's there. There's a little bit

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 4>more information that you can go through now as a

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 4>posted before the draft when there's there's a less that

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>you can put out there publicly. But yeah, I would

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 4>say probably in the next week or two, we'll get

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 4>the page flip, so to speak, onto next year's draft,

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, towards the end of the month.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 3>For sure will be full force working on twenty twenty five.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time, Mike, thank you.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot, Dan, I appreciate you.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap things up, let's check in with a

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>former first round draft pick, Dax Hill. On Saturday, Zach

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Taylor made it official when he told reporters that Dax

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>is moving from safety to cornerback. He'll be giving the

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>chance to compete for a starting spot on the outside.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>In Hill's final year at Michigan, roughly seventy two percent

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>of his snaps came at cornerback, so this isn't totally new.

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Dax answered some questions about the switch on Monday.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>I love covering. That's something I always done pretty well

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 5>in college, So I'm kind of just glad that I'm

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 5>back in that same, similar role and I'm really just

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 5>looking forward to competing.

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>How that initial conversation would go.

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 5>With Coally really, I mean he kind of just told

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 5>me straightforward he's going to be moving me and really

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 5>just having a good chance to compete with, you know,

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 5>some guys on the squad, So I'm excited for it.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>What's the biggest challenge that's from moving from safety to.

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 5>Course really just the technique. But for the most part,

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of similar. I mean, you're covering I mean's

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're covering different type of bodies, but at

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 5>the same time, I mean it's covering you know, quality people,

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 5>football players, so uh, you know, it's it's different, but

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's gonna be some learning there, but I

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 5>feel like that's something, you know, my skill set I'm

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 5>able to do.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Are you okay with the movie.

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm gonna have to, you know,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 5>so I have no choice. But that's something I've done before.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 5>So I'm pretty comfortable and confident in myself to.

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Keep it positive at it.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It seems like you're you know, you've got to smile,

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you're happy, good attitude to our house. Important to keep.

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<v Speaker 3>It good attitude.

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<v Speaker 5>Making this change, I mean, it's just gonna make it

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<v Speaker 5>easier for myself. I mean I could take it one

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<v Speaker 5>or two ways, and I'm gonna just you know, take

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<v Speaker 5>the you know, the best way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just sees it.

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<v Speaker 5>As an opportunity for me and my you know, my family,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, there's I feel like I have a

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<v Speaker 5>high ceiling, you know, for myself whether whatever position it is,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm confident in myself. So, uh, I really don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a bad at Who's wards it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dax has good size, tremendous speed, and he's tough. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all about finding the right spot that's going to do it.

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