1
00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,840
Speaker 1: And good afternoon, everybody. I have and am thrilled to

2
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,799
Speaker 1: introduce Seth Moulton, the Democratic congressman from the sixth District

3
00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,360
Speaker 1: of Massachusetts currently running for the United States Senate, running

4
00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,759
Speaker 1: for that Senate seat currently held by Ed Marquie, who

5
00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,120
Speaker 1: will be turning eighty years old on July eleventh. I

6
00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,400
Speaker 1: was recently struck by a local headline saying Ed Markey

7
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,320
Speaker 1: rejects generational change. That was the headline of a newspaper story.

8
00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,239
Speaker 1: And I wonder what your reaction to that is when

9
00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,960
Speaker 1: you read a story by your opponents saying, at age

10
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,880
Speaker 1: eighty that he rejects generational change.

11
00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he might at least have an argument

12
00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 2: if his generation was knocking out of the park, you know,

13
00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,120
Speaker 2: if Democrats were in solid majorities in both the House

14
00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,120
Speaker 2: and the Senate, we had a Democrat in the White House.

15
00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320
Speaker 2: But none of those things are true. The Democratic Party

16
00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,360
Speaker 2: has never had lower approval ratings in American history, even

17
00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,640
Speaker 2: among Democrats. And that same old playbook, with the same

18
00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,520
Speaker 2: old leaders has gotten us a second term of Donald Trump.

19
00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,800
Speaker 2: He's hurting a lot of people all across America, all

20
00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,959
Speaker 2: across Massachusetts, now all across the world, and so we

21
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 2: got to do better here. And I say that with

22
00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,440
Speaker 2: respect for Senator Marky. You know, he's a good man.

23
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360
Speaker 2: He's served our commonwealth for half a century. He's been

24
00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,479
Speaker 2: elected longer than I've even been alive, and he's served

25
00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,440
Speaker 2: in Washington longer than every other member of the House

26
00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,400
Speaker 2: and Senate except for Chuck Grassley. So let's thank him

27
00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,399
Speaker 2: for that service, a lifetime of service. Thank you, sir,

28
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,240
Speaker 2: appreciate it. But there comes a time to pass the torch.

29
00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,200
Speaker 2: And there is a new generation of leaders in our

30
00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,920
Speaker 2: party who are ready to pick that up, who are

31
00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,360
Speaker 2: ready to fight Trump and Maga harder and actually lead

32
00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,560
Speaker 2: away forward so that the party is known for more

33
00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,200
Speaker 2: than just being opposed to Trump. People actually want to

34
00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,000
Speaker 2: know what Democrats stand for.

35
00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,880
Speaker 1: That passed the torch. Language is important. It belongs to

36
00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,919
Speaker 1: John Kennedy, of course, from Boston, from Massachusetts. Talked about

37
00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,800
Speaker 1: that inevitability that comes. The founders of the country were

38
00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,840
Speaker 1: young men. There is no historical precedent really over the

39
00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,240
Speaker 1: sweep of the country for people to cling to power

40
00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,239
Speaker 1: into their eighties nineties, refusing to let go. And you

41
00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,880
Speaker 1: said some things that are that are important there. I

42
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,600
Speaker 1: think to get into. One of them is his half

43
00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:43,720
Speaker 1: century of service, and I'm fifty five. He was elected

44
00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,640
Speaker 1: to the Massachusetts Legislature in nineteen seventy three, to the

45
00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,519
Speaker 1: Congress in nineteen seventy six when Jimmy Carter was elected

46
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,640
Speaker 1: President of the United States. Like you said, you aren't

47
00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,680
Speaker 1: alive yet. He's saying explicitly, we don't need to have

48
00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,280
Speaker 1: generational change. It's not time to pass the torch. Do

49
00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,200
Speaker 1: you have any sense what is the great achievement? What

50
00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,919
Speaker 1: is the great accomplishment at age eighty that he feels

51
00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,560
Speaker 1: that he's a necessary man here as we get ready

52
00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,400
Speaker 1: to go into this even this next decade of the

53
00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 1: twenty first century into the twenty thirties. Well, why is

54
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,120
Speaker 1: he a necessary man? As best you can tell from

55
00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,360
Speaker 1: following his campaign and his view, why does he need

56
00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,320
Speaker 1: six more years in there to be pushing up on

57
00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 1: ninety years old in the United States Senate, As best

58
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,400
Speaker 1: you can tell.

59
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. And again, I like him, I

60
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,600
Speaker 2: respect him, so I'm not just here to talk ill

61
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720
Speaker 2: of him and his service. But it seems like he's

62
00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,120
Speaker 2: mostly talking about all the things we haven't done. Because

63
00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,600
Speaker 2: I think everyone in America knows there's a lot that

64
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,320
Speaker 2: we haven't done. People can't afford the basics. People in

65
00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 2: New England are turning down their thermostats during this cold

66
00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,960
Speaker 2: winter because it can't afford electricity and gas. People are

67
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,680
Speaker 2: losing their healthcare. Families are going without healthcare while Trump

68
00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,720
Speaker 2: terrorizes our cities. And even in Massachusetts, which has supposedly

69
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,480
Speaker 2: the best education system in the nation, there are a

70
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,960
Speaker 2: lot of people who go to schools that are failing.

71
00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,920
Speaker 2: We have some amazing schools, we also have some really

72
00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,320
Speaker 2: terrible schools. So those fundamentals of the American dream are

73
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,640
Speaker 2: not coming together. And so he talks about this on

74
00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,000
Speaker 2: the campaign trail. But what I don't understand is what

75
00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,920
Speaker 2: he thinks he's going to do in the next six

76
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 2: years that he hasn't done in the last fifty. One

77
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:45,960
Speaker 2: of the.

78
00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 1: Things that you have to talk about in your election

79
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,280
Speaker 1: that a lot of Democrats get a pass on, but

80
00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,120
Speaker 1: we'll have to talk about in twenty twenty eight is

81
00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,440
Speaker 1: the reality that the party is as unpopular as you

82
00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:08,000
Speaker 1: described it. The failure to defeat Donald Trump and two

83
00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,599
Speaker 1: out of three national elections is a signal failure. It

84
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 1: is a epic failure. It's one of the greatest failures

85
00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,560
Speaker 1: in American political history by a party of John Kennedy,

86
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,760
Speaker 1: of Franklin Roosevelt. That was talking to Congressman Moulton about

87
00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:34,279
Speaker 1: this question about generational change. That the Senator ed, Markey,

88
00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,120
Speaker 1: as you said, good man, but eighty years old. First

89
00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,599
Speaker 1: elected to the Congress in nineteen seventy six. Year Jimmy

90
00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,760
Speaker 1: Carter is elected to the Massachusetts state legislature in nineteen

91
00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,280
Speaker 1: seventy three. One of the senior serving members of Congress,

92
00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,840
Speaker 1: only Chuck Grassley, the nonagenarian from Iowa, chairman of the

93
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,680
Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, famously just said he doesn't know if the

94
00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,040
Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment applies to Ice, hanging on wanting more time,

95
00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,280
Speaker 1: wanting to serve till he's almost eighty eighty seven years old.

96
00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:18,039
Speaker 1: As you go out across the across the country, excuse me,

97
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,679
Speaker 1: across the state, and I know you also travel across

98
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,039
Speaker 1: the country. We were talking about is the unpopularity of

99
00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,800
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, and that that issue which a lot

100
00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,240
Speaker 1: of people don't want to talk about, It's going to

101
00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,719
Speaker 1: have to be talked about, particularly if you have some

102
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,880
Speaker 1: Biden cabinet secretaries that run for president in twenty eight.

103
00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960
Speaker 1: But you have to talk about it in your race

104
00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,839
Speaker 1: because you have to talk, I think sooner than most

105
00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,920
Speaker 1: Democrats are required to because of the race you're in

106
00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,080
Speaker 1: against Ed Markey, what the future of the Democratic Party

107
00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,160
Speaker 1: looks like? And I want to talk to you about

108
00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,599
Speaker 1: what you see as the future or the Democratic Party.

109
00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,880
Speaker 1: What does the majority winning National Democratic Party look like

110
00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,480
Speaker 1: that is trusted, that is capable of governing and most importantly,

111
00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,080
Speaker 1: capable of digging us out from this mess. Before you

112
00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600
Speaker 1: answer that question, I want to just ask you to

113
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can find you, where they can

114
00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,560
Speaker 1: go to the campaign website, how they can how they

115
00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520
Speaker 1: can donate to the campaign. I want to remind everybody

116
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,200
Speaker 1: before we talk about the war and Iran that Seth

117
00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,920
Speaker 1: is a combat veteran in a United States Marine Corps officer,

118
00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,520
Speaker 1: someone who has received two Valor awards from his actions

119
00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,840
Speaker 1: in combat. And so, so Seth, tell us where everybody

120
00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,760
Speaker 1: can find you at first, and then and then we'll

121
00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,560
Speaker 1: get into the the answer there.

122
00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve, thank you very much. So Sethmolton dot com

123
00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,960
Speaker 2: you know s E. T. H emulare here, Seth? Can

124
00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,560
Speaker 2: can you hear me?

125
00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:06,920
Speaker 1: All? Right?

126
00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,520
Speaker 2: So? Okay, okay, So, uh yeah, thank you, Steve. It's

127
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520
Speaker 2: it's seth Moulton dot com. So s E T H

128
00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880
Speaker 2: M O U L t O N dot com. That's

129
00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,480
Speaker 2: our website. Be a part, sign up, contribute. Uh this

130
00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,160
Speaker 2: is a very winnable race, but we need your support.

131
00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,840
Speaker 2: Uh So that's a good place to go, and then

132
00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680
Speaker 2: follow me on social media. We've got a great Instagram account.

133
00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,120
Speaker 2: Of course, we're on Facebook and x and you know

134
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 2: lots of other places. So check us out on on

135
00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,520
Speaker 2: social media and get involved and keep up with the

136
00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,320
Speaker 2: latest news because we're working hard, and a lot of

137
00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,120
Speaker 2: people are telling me that this race is way is important,

138
00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,840
Speaker 2: way beyond Massachusetts, that this is setting the tone for

139
00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,120
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party going into the midterms. That if the

140
00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,680
Speaker 2: Democratic Party looks like it's real the gerontocracy and not

141
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,000
Speaker 2: willing to change, it's going to be a much tougher

142
00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,280
Speaker 2: for the swing districts to flip our way than if

143
00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200
Speaker 2: people see new leaders and see us listening to the

144
00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,959
Speaker 2: feedback that we're getting from voters that they want leadership

145
00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240
Speaker 2: out of our party. I think one of the most

146
00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,680
Speaker 2: telling conversations I had before the twenty four election was

147
00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280
Speaker 2: with a marine I served with who is an independent,

148
00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,280
Speaker 2: and he said, look, Seth, I've voted Democrat and Republican.

149
00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm well informed, I keep up with the news, and

150
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to vote for this guy. He's a

151
00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,880
Speaker 2: total nutcase. But you Democrats are so out of touch.

152
00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,199
Speaker 2: Now why would he say that. Well, let's look at

153
00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,320
Speaker 2: the single biggest issue in the twenty four elections. It

154
00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,720
Speaker 2: was immigration, and for years under the Biden administration, Biden

155
00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160
Speaker 2: officials and a lot of Democrats across the country were saying,

156
00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 2: don't worry about it, it's not a big deal. This

157
00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,920
Speaker 2: is Republicans weaponizing the issue. But even way up here Massachusetts,

158
00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,600
Speaker 2: we could see that there was a problem at the

159
00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,640
Speaker 2: southern border. And then of course there was inflation, and

160
00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people said it's transitory, don't worry, it'll

161
00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,080
Speaker 2: go away. It just didn't feel like we were being

162
00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 2: honest about these issues. And then the icing on the

163
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,960
Speaker 2: case of Kik, of course, was when people said, Hey,

164
00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 2: nothing to see here, everything's great, Joe is fine, and

165
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 2: Joe was not fine, and so Americans said, like, you're

166
00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: just not even being honest with us about these issues,

167
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680
Speaker 2: and so you're kind of out of touch and We've

168
00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,240
Speaker 2: got to rebuild that trust. So one of the things

169
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,480
Speaker 2: that I asked a room's full of Democrats like I

170
00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,079
Speaker 2: did in Wilburn last night, and I said, how many

171
00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,240
Speaker 2: of you are opposed to Trump's immigration enforcement? And of

172
00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,719
Speaker 2: course every hand in the room goes up, and then

173
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,640
Speaker 2: I say, how many of you can explain to me

174
00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,920
Speaker 2: what Democrats immigration policy is. Well, I've yet to get

175
00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,280
Speaker 2: a single hand, and I've tried this with thousands of

176
00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,120
Speaker 2: Democrats to date. That's a real problem. I can tell

177
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,640
Speaker 2: you what my immigration policy is. Number One, prosecute ice.

178
00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 2: I was the first to start saying it. They need

179
00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,400
Speaker 2: to be held accountable. Number two, create an immigration system

180
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,800
Speaker 2: that actually incentivizes people to come here legally and not illegally.

181
00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520
Speaker 2: And number three have a pathway to citizenship. Now we

182
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,080
Speaker 2: can go through the details for an hour, but the

183
00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,040
Speaker 2: point is that's my position. I have a position. I

184
00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,600
Speaker 2: think that's what people want to see from the Democratic Party.

185
00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,600
Speaker 2: Everyone knows we're opposed to Trump, but it's not clear

186
00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,839
Speaker 2: what we stand for. And that's some of the groundwork

187
00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to lay in this race.

188
00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,320
Speaker 1: When you envision going into that first Senate Caucus meeting,

189
00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,880
Speaker 1: as a freshman senator from the state of Massachusetts, the

190
00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:52,839
Speaker 1: state that produced Senators Edward Kennedy and John Kennedy, what

191
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,280
Speaker 1: do you intend to say to your colleagues. Well, the

192
00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,160
Speaker 1: first thing is that we need to say them right

193
00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,000
Speaker 1: off the bat.

194
00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,120
Speaker 2: The first thing is that we need a new leader

195
00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,240
Speaker 2: at the top as well, and with all due respect

196
00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,880
Speaker 2: to Senator Schumer, it's time for him to step down.

197
00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,600
Speaker 2: And we need to show that we're willing to change

198
00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,920
Speaker 2: our face in Washington, just like we're willing to change

199
00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,800
Speaker 2: our faces back home. I'm not going to run on

200
00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,280
Speaker 2: a platform of next generation leadership and then go support

201
00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,200
Speaker 2: the status quo in Washington, d C. Which, by the way,

202
00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,160
Speaker 2: is another big difference between myself and the incumbent Senator Marquee.

203
00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,959
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing, and then I'm going to

204
00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,000
Speaker 2: talk about how we need to actually show leadership that

205
00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,880
Speaker 2: people are not only hurting across America, they're scared. I

206
00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,960
Speaker 2: hear this out there every single day across Massachusetts. People

207
00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,880
Speaker 2: are genuinely and frankly, quite legitimately scared for themselves, for

208
00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,280
Speaker 2: their family, for our troops, for our national security. And

209
00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,200
Speaker 2: what they need in response to that is not more

210
00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,160
Speaker 2: people just railing against Trump, although we need to do that.

211
00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,679
Speaker 2: It's leadership, it's here's the alternative, here's my plan, here's

212
00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240
Speaker 2: how I'm going to fix this, not just how I'm

213
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,400
Speaker 2: going to complain about it.

214
00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,439
Speaker 1: When when when you look ahead into the next Congress,

215
00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,440
Speaker 1: I think that there are many of us who who

216
00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240
Speaker 1: look at the status quo and say, well, we don't

217
00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 1: have a functioning Congress, that the checks and balances are

218
00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,560
Speaker 1: clinically dead. Uh, there's no pulse there really at a

219
00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,120
Speaker 1: at a functional level of this. This war in Iran,

220
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I think is it is an extension of that. How

221
00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,079
Speaker 1: do you think about the exercise of the Article one

222
00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,520
Speaker 1: branch's power in bringing the power of the Congress back

223
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:52,040
Speaker 1: to life against an out of control Article two branch?

224
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,439
Speaker 1: As a member of the United States Senate, What can

225
00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,840
Speaker 1: they be doing better? Well, I mean and imagining democratic

226
00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,079
Speaker 1: majority as well.

227
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say. The first thing is we

228
00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,640
Speaker 2: need to win the majority. I mean, that's the number

229
00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,800
Speaker 2: one thing. And that's why I've been working so long

230
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,160
Speaker 2: on my organization called Serve America, which sometimes gets confused

231
00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,320
Speaker 2: with yours Save America. Serve America is an organization I

232
00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,280
Speaker 2: started back in the first Trump term to help win

233
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,640
Speaker 2: Democratic seats across the country, and the last time we

234
00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,880
Speaker 2: were in this same political position with Republicans controlling the

235
00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,040
Speaker 2: White House, the House, and the Senate. More than half

236
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840
Speaker 2: the seats we flipped in the House as a party

237
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,640
Speaker 2: to take back control of the House and put a

238
00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,440
Speaker 2: check on Donald Trump in his first term. More than

239
00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440
Speaker 2: half of those seats we flipped were my Serve America candidates,

240
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,640
Speaker 2: people like Abigail Spamberger and Mikey Cheryl, people like Jason

241
00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,720
Speaker 2: Crowe and Chrissy Hoolihan, amazing leaders who won tough races,

242
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,240
Speaker 2: took seats from Republicans, but also showed that they knew

243
00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,800
Speaker 2: how to lead once they got to Washington. So first

244
00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 2: of all, we got to do that again. And I've

245
00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,120
Speaker 2: got a great slate of candidates at Serve America this

246
00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,160
Speaker 2: year as well. I don't think it should be enough

247
00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,360
Speaker 2: just to get yourself re elected. You should help build

248
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,600
Speaker 2: the Democratic majority so we actually can win these votes

249
00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360
Speaker 2: and can hold this administration accountable. Then once we have

250
00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,920
Speaker 2: those majorities, we have got to be ruthless but also

251
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:27,160
Speaker 2: meticulous in holding this administration accountable. Getting to the bottom

252
00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,240
Speaker 2: of what's going on and actually prosecuting crimes. This is

253
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,680
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I'm always talking about prosecuting ice,

254
00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,440
Speaker 2: because abolishing ice is not enough. It's a good first

255
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,400
Speaker 2: step that the order the institution is completely corrupt. Any

256
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,720
Speaker 2: immigration enforcement should go back under the Department of Justice

257
00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,400
Speaker 2: the way it was before nine to eleven. But the

258
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,360
Speaker 2: point is, you can't just let these people who think

259
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,080
Speaker 2: they're above the law right off of the sunset. You

260
00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,120
Speaker 2: can't let Christy know them just ride off into the

261
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,400
Speaker 2: sunset with Corey lew and they need to be prosecuted

262
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 2: for their corruption and breaking the Law's I actually think

263
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400
Speaker 2: in retrospect, I'm no great historian, but I think in

264
00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,040
Speaker 2: retrospect it was a big mistake for Gerald Ford to

265
00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880
Speaker 2: just pardon Richard Nixon, because it basically said that if

266
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,640
Speaker 2: you're the highest office in the land, if you're really

267
00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,680
Speaker 2: important and you're pretty wealthy, then you can get away

268
00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,440
Speaker 2: with stuff. We're going to give you a pardon. And

269
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,160
Speaker 2: the message should have been everybody in America is held

270
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520
Speaker 2: to the same standard, the standard of the law. Nobody

271
00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,920
Speaker 2: is above the law, and we have to enforce that standard.

272
00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,760
Speaker 1: With this administration, I think one of the things that

273
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,600
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has to become and it can walk

274
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,760
Speaker 1: with no hypocrisy in this space is the American Ethics Party.

275
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,240
Speaker 1: And that means dealing with generals who go on to

276
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:59,280
Speaker 1: careers as defense contractors. It means dealing with congress members,

277
00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,399
Speaker 1: congressional members who services a gateway to lobbying careers. It

278
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 1: means dealing with insider trading, stock trading, bitcoin trading, at

279
00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,720
Speaker 1: everything else. As you go to apply the law and

280
00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,560
Speaker 1: force the law and do all the things that are

281
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,879
Speaker 1: that are necessary. I mean when I look at what

282
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,840
Speaker 1: comes next, and I think it's it's very much in

283
00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,240
Speaker 1: line with what you're with. What you're talking about is

284
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,040
Speaker 1: that there has to be a deconstruction of power from

285
00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:38,679
Speaker 1: its concentration in both the federal government sector and also

286
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,840
Speaker 1: in the private sector across the big media companies, across

287
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,000
Speaker 1: the big tech companies. But in the case of the

288
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,560
Speaker 1: federal government, the Department of Homeland Security, I think that

289
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,639
Speaker 1: there are people who will say things like, well, it

290
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 1: can never be reformed, it can't be broken up, it

291
00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,199
Speaker 1: can't be fixed. But you've alluded to a couple of them,

292
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 1: which is one all the criminal lacks, which are obvious

293
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,879
Speaker 1: must be prosecuted. But to the Department of Homeland Security,

294
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 1: to my mind, has become a threat. Some people imagine

295
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,760
Speaker 1: it envisioned. I think there were nine Senators who voted

296
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,520
Speaker 1: against the Homeland Security Department back in the day. But yes,

297
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: the Homeland Security Department should be broken up, the immigration

298
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: function should be should be returned to the Department of Justice.

299
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,160
Speaker 1: How committed are you to perform to to to participating

300
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 1: in the type of agenda that breaks up the power

301
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: of these companies, the billionaire class, the federal government.

302
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:46,119
Speaker 2: You know.

303
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,080
Speaker 1: I think that was one thing that Republicans were generally

304
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,640
Speaker 1: right about, that that a leviathan federal government was a threat.

305
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 1: I think what most people were wrong about was that

306
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,679
Speaker 1: the threat was going to come from the from the

307
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: from the right, certainly on the right. They didn't cast

308
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 1: the danger that way. But how do you see all

309
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,399
Speaker 1: that stuff when it comes to the concentrations of power

310
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,679
Speaker 1: and influence and money.

311
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, these are great question Steve's at You're absolutely right.

312
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 2: There's not really one America today. There's two Americas. There's

313
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 2: an America for the wealthy and the well connected who

314
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 2: get all the travel perks in the airline miles and

315
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 2: the occasional free vacations. This is in America that benefits

316
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: from tax loopholes, and if you're really wealthy, can even

317
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,239
Speaker 2: fly your plane to the White House and buy a

318
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 2: pardon from this administration from any for any law you break.

319
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 2: It's an America that feels protected by the law but

320
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 2: not bound by it. And then there's an America for

321
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: everyone else struggling to pay rent, turning down their thermostats,

322
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 2: and the winner because they can't afford their heating bills.

323
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 2: This is an America that feels bound by the law

324
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 2: but not protected by it. That's the America I saw

325
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 2: on the ground in Minneapolis, people who were bound by

326
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 2: the law, not even allowed to exercise their First Amendment

327
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: rights or in the case of Alex Preddy's Second Amendment

328
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 2: rights as well. And they're not protected by the law.

329
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: In fact, they're being attacked by federal law enforcement. And

330
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 2: so the point is that there's two Americas, not just

331
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: economically but in terms of our legal system. And for

332
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: a while now, Washington and the billionaire class, some might

333
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: say the Epstein class, have been in cahoots and allowing

334
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: this persystem to persist. You're wealthy and well connected, you

335
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: can get away with things that ordinary Americans would not.

336
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: Most Americans know that if they committed the crimes of

337
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 2: all these billionaires who visited Epstein's Island, they'd be in prison.

338
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: You know, they would be in prison. They wouldn't be

339
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: president of the United States for sure. And so what

340
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: Democrats need to do is be really committed to fixing that,

341
00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 2: to breaking up the corruption between the billionaire class and

342
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: the government, to bringing this two tiered system of justice

343
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: back to one tier. And it is a bipartisan problem.

344
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: Remember in the financial crisis of two thousand and eight,

345
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: the Obama administration basically let all these bankers off the hook.

346
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: They're like, well, you were white collar criminals with the

347
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 2: mortgage fraud and everything, so we'll just slap you on

348
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: the risk and give you a massive bailout to save

349
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: your firms, and say, in the name of saving the economy.

350
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 2: That sent the wrong message. The message once again has

351
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: to be that nobody is above the law. And I

352
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: think that when it comes to government specifically, that also

353
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: means you can't just put Humpty Dumpty back together again

354
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: the way it was. We got to recognize that government

355
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: needs to be reformed. Here's a simple practical example. Trump

356
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: has obviously abused the pardon power. Now it's going to

357
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: be a hard choice for a future Democratic president to

358
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: give up her or his pardon power because it's one

359
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: of the most awesome powers of the president has. But

360
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: we got to learn our lesson and the responsible thing

361
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: to do is to reform the presidential pardon power so

362
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: that even if the next Democratic president doesn't abuse it,

363
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: some president who comes along down the road that has

364
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: the ethics and morals of Donald Trump will not be

365
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: able to do what he's done.

366
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: There's going to need to be a tremendous amount of

367
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: ethics reform and change. Last question for you, I know

368
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: that you have a hard stop. We have a marine

369
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: expeditionary unit en route to the Persian Gulf, and you

370
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: have people like Lindsey Graham threatening to land it on

371
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: Kark Island where the Iranian oil refinery is. And anybody

372
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: who would be familiar with even the elementary aspects of

373
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: that appreciates that includes h a landing through the Straits

374
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: of hor MOUs under fire, uh, the whole the whole way.

375
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: As a combat veteran, as a as a marine officer,

376
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: you'll be familiar with the seven p's prior Proper planning

377
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: prevents pisspoor performance, and so we have a war without

378
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: a without a plan, without an end in sight. That

379
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: that seems to be escalating. Imagining you're in the United

380
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: States Senate right now, what what what is it that

381
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: we could expect of you in this moment? What would

382
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: you be saying from the floor of this Senate uh

383
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: to the country with the megaphone that that Senate seat

384
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: from Massachusetts carries, particularly for its combat veterans.

385
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't actually like to talk too much

386
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: about my service, Steve. I don't want to be known

387
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: just as a veteran, and I certainly don't want to

388
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: be a veteran who just goes around telling war stories.

389
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what most veterans respect. But this

390
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: is a time when people need to hear it. People

391
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: need to understand what a forever war in the Middle

392
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: East is like, what it costs in human terms, in real,

393
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: visceral human terms, and they need to understand some blunt

394
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: realities about where we are today. Let me give you

395
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: a blunt reality. Trump is losing this war. It's not

396
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: just bad It's not just devoid of strategy or plans,

397
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: he's literally losing it. And that is a horrific place

398
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: to be for a war of choice that nobody needed

399
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: to start, and that chickenhawks like Donald Trump and Lindsey

400
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: Graham seem intent on perpetuating for their political goals at

401
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: the expense of young American lives.

402
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say, I just want to

403
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for your time today. Everybody

404
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: follow seth Multon on social media. Support this campaign, donate

405
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: to it. Country is in a great crisis, and one

406
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: of the reasons we got into that crisis is the

407
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: Democratic Party lost on election to the most prolific liar

408
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: since Goebels and Hitler because he was viewed to be

409
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: the more honest candidate in the race on the economy,

410
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: on immigration, and on Biden's fundamental fitness. And the catastrophe

411
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: at hand is the fruit of that sin. We need

412
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: a new generation of Democratic leaders who can rebuild the

413
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: winning coalition of Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy, who can

414
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: build the rainbow coalition that Jesse Jackson talked about. Who

415
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: are twenty first century candidates, who are twenty first century winners.

416
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: And here's the deal, the twenty twenties, we should not

417
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: be electing the equivalent of candidates who got their start

418
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: in the eighteen seventies, had they been running for reelection

419
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: towards the end of the nineteen twenties. We need leaders

420
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: born in the end days of the twentieth century, in

421
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: those closing decades, who are modern candidates with a clear

422
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: vision for the future of the country. Seth Moulten is

423
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: one of those people. And there's a clear choice in Massachusetts.

424
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: It's a choice that matters to the whole country. If

425
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: you're a Democrat who cares about winning, if you appreciate

426
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: the connection between the catastrophe that is unspiraling all over

427
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: the world and an election outcome, if you appreciate that,

428
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: do something to help Seth Moulton. It's been a great privilege, Seth.

429
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Spend some time with you this afternoon. For people to

430
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: get to hear you talk about these issues, I think

431
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: is great. Good luck to you out there. I think

432
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: you're one of the finest Democrats of this generation, a

433
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: fighting Democrat, and somebody that I'm rooting for as hard

434
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: as I can to win this primary and to be

435
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the Senator for Massachusetts. Country would be much better off

436
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: for it.

437
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: It's an honest Steve. Thank you so much for having me,

438
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: and thanks for all that you're doing to stave of

439
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: our democracy.

440
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: You got Seth Moulton, everybody, Thank you very much. Congressman.

441
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: Take care