Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft. I'm Logan Paulson.
Speaker 2: We are down there at the Senior Bowl and we
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Speaker 2: the special edition Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
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Speaker 3: Normally producer Jason, but in the I'm offering no analysis here.
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Speaker 2: So we are down in Mobile, Alabama. We're in a
Speaker 2: hotel room right now doing this podcast. That's why there's
Speaker 2: no Fred, no Santana, and we are going to give
Speaker 2: you our insight into the Senior Bowl. And we watched
Speaker 2: all practices today, both practice today, and it was a
Speaker 2: gorgeous day down here Mobile. Start off a little bit chilly,
Speaker 2: got a little hot as the day went on. I
Speaker 2: got a little sunburn, you and I both did. But
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. We got to watch
Speaker 2: a lot of football, and I thought we'd start high
Speaker 2: level and just kind of say, first practice the day
Speaker 2: was the National roster, so that's the roster with Michael
Speaker 2: Pennix bow Nix.
Speaker 1: And that practice went.
Speaker 2: I'd say, very very smoothly, right like, not only was
Speaker 2: it smooth from a football standpoint, but just moving between drills,
Speaker 2: the execution practice seemed very high. And when you compare
Speaker 2: that to the American roster, which was the second practice afternoon,
Speaker 2: there was like a lot of standing the round. I
Speaker 2: talked to a couple of agents afterwards and they were like,
Speaker 2: why was there that twenty five minute period in the
Speaker 2: middle of practice where everyone was just standing around doing nothing?
Speaker 2: So very very different. And then another thing that we
Speaker 2: noticed is that in the first practice, obviously you have
Speaker 2: the big name quarterbacks. You got Michael Pennick junior, you
Speaker 2: got Bonix, probably guys, I know, Jason going in the
Speaker 2: first round. Potentially, we'll see what happens with Michael Pennick
Speaker 2: juniors in terms of his in terms.
Speaker 1: Of his medical stuff.
Speaker 2: Obviously got a lot there to clear his back, his knee,
Speaker 2: a lot of college football. But guys, you know, like
Speaker 2: right now, if Bonnicks comes out of this process really well,
Speaker 2: probably going to be a tough fifteen pick.
Speaker 1: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: Compare that to the second group, which is you know,
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, Joe Milton, Michael Pratt, Carter Bradley, who again
Speaker 2: is from South Alabama, the school where the Senior Bowl
Speaker 2: is at, that's the American roster. I thought there was
Speaker 2: a noticeable difference between the two practices in terms of
Speaker 2: how the quarterbacks played, and I thought that affected the
Speaker 2: quality of the receiver, tight end, running back play in
Speaker 2: some of the drills that they did. And so I
Speaker 2: don't know, do you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: Why do you think they did that?
Speaker 3: Why do you think who put the roster together, put
Speaker 3: guys that could be first round quarterback talent in one team,
Speaker 3: and that split them.
Speaker 4: Why not Bonicks on one side, Penix one the other.
Speaker 2: Well, so what I was thought about that too, Like
Speaker 2: if I was a scout, what's the perfect scenario for
Speaker 2: me in terms of evaluating those two guys?
Speaker 3: You want to just behind the same line, throwing to
Speaker 3: the same guy, same defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if we're trying to go apples to apples,
Speaker 2: there's no better way to do that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We got the same o' line, got the same skill
Speaker 2: position guys. And again I don't I don't necessarily love
Speaker 2: that because I'd like the second group because I want
Speaker 2: to get an evaluation on the second group of receivers.
Speaker 2: So like in the first group, for example, we got
Speaker 2: you know, Roman Wilson, jab Jacob Cowing, Ricky Piersaw, Luke McCaffrey, Brendan, Rice,
Speaker 2: Devontes Walker, Malachi Corley, Javon Baker. All those guys I
Speaker 2: thought had pretty solid days, right, Javon Baker, the guy
Speaker 2: from Central Florida, stands out to me. Devonte's Walker I
Speaker 2: thought was a little up and down, but showed that
Speaker 2: explosive feed, speedy at the fastest GPS time today. Ricky Piersaw,
Speaker 2: I mean we knew. I mean I think we do
Speaker 2: a shared Google document talking about draft stuff, like we
Speaker 2: knew he was going to have a good day. Didn't disappoint.
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson had a great day. Jacob Cowing had some
Speaker 2: huge explosive plays in one on one, absolutely dicing people
Speaker 2: from the slot, running deep posts. But one of the
Speaker 2: things that stuck out to me is in that group,
Speaker 2: you've got Bonix and Michael Pennix, and they were able
Speaker 2: to throw really accurate deep balls and give their guys opportunities.
Speaker 2: And you just compare that, junks, suppose that with the
Speaker 2: second group, which is I think a solid group.
Speaker 1: Of wide receivers guys.
Speaker 2: I was really excited to watch, you know, Jamari Thrash,
Speaker 2: Tikwan Jackson, Ryan Flora Florio, who is an interesting guy
Speaker 2: because he was a late ad. I thought he had
Speaker 2: a great day day. We'll talk about it more later,
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson. My favorite receiver in this group is xavierly
Speaker 2: Get and then Lad mcconclie, who also had a great day.
Speaker 2: You look at those guys and they did not they
Speaker 2: in their one on one period they did not complete
Speaker 2: a ball deeper than fifteen yards. And there's a great
Speaker 2: rep today of Johnny Wilson absolutely dicing the corner, does
Speaker 2: a great job being physical. Johnny Wilson's sixty six thirty
Speaker 2: five inch arms two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 1: He was physical.
Speaker 2: Line of scrimmage, wins down. The field has multiple steps.
Speaker 2: The ball is overthrown by about five or six yards,
Speaker 2: and so you see yourself in the first group. Is
Speaker 2: that an opportunity for Johnny Wilson to show, hey man,
Speaker 2: I can be a true X receiver or is that
Speaker 2: just an overthrow? Because Brendan Rice in the first group
Speaker 2: caught an excellent ball from bow Knicks today. Excellent ball,
Speaker 2: diving catch, great job, but he got an opportunity to
Speaker 2: catch it. And I think when you look at the
Speaker 2: groups of the receivers, you kind of say, that makes
Speaker 2: the evaluation for the receivers very, very challenging in my opinion,
Speaker 2: And I don't really know how to qualify because when
Speaker 2: this podcast started we were fully ready to say Johnny
Speaker 2: Wilson had a bad day to day, But then you
Speaker 2: go back and watch his reps because we were able
Speaker 2: to record some of it. And you say, actually, not
Speaker 2: that bad, like in terms of separation, you know, being
Speaker 2: physical at to catch point. He ran a great route
Speaker 2: today that he fell down on. But in terms of
Speaker 2: like the fundamentals, again, there's some stuff that I think
Speaker 2: with Johnny Wilson that's interesting. And then how he handles
Speaker 2: himself in between drills. He's always walking, He's not super
Speaker 2: jazzed up. That bothers me as a former player, you know,
Speaker 2: but I think those types of things are why you
Speaker 2: come to seenable to see that other stuff. But back
Speaker 2: to the receiver evaluation, I think it was really really
Speaker 2: challenging to say receiver group A receiver group for the
Speaker 2: national roster is better than receiver group B, just because
Speaker 2: I think the quarterback play is so different. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a there was a there was a time
Speaker 2: period in team in the team period where they just
Speaker 2: could not complete a pass. Like there the pressure was
Speaker 2: there from the defensive line, they just can they just
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. So that's something again we're not
Speaker 2: overreacting to the first day, but after the first day
Speaker 2: to day, definitely quarterback play is gonna be a big
Speaker 2: story in terms of evaluating these guys moving forward. And
Speaker 2: I think that also affects the tight end groups. You know,
Speaker 2: like the tight end group for the first group for
Speaker 2: the national roster is guys you've probably never heard of.
Speaker 2: It's Theo Johnson, Brevin span Ford, AJ Barnar from Michigan,
Speaker 2: and Theo Johnson comes out of this and he looks
Speaker 2: like a really good football player. And at Penn State
Speaker 2: where he's from, he looked more like a blocking Why
Speaker 2: here's look he's got. Looks like he's got some pass
Speaker 2: game upside. And then a guy that I really like,
Speaker 2: and Jared Wiley had a really good day, very productive
Speaker 2: and seven on seven in the second group, but they
Speaker 2: just didn't have the same opportunity. So a big part
Speaker 2: of that is the offensive lines too, which we'll talk
Speaker 2: about in a second. But I think that, to me
Speaker 2: is something that I'm definitely gonna be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 2: Can these quarterbacks find a rhythm, find a chemistry. There
Speaker 2: was a rep today in the it was the last
Speaker 2: rep of the team period for the national practice. Spencer
Speaker 2: Ratler wats the line of scrimmage. He looks at Johnny
Speaker 2: Wilson gives him the thumbs up. Johnny Wilson runs a
Speaker 2: go beats the dB and for whatever reason, Spencer Raller
Speaker 2: does not throw the football, and I'm just like, why,
Speaker 2: let's get an evaluation on these guys.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So that was something that was really really frustrating. But again,
Speaker 2: I think if there's one group of skill players at
Speaker 2: a group of players, you're like, this group is set,
Speaker 2: is the is the receivers?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Like they're just everybody's good, Like like Jawan Jackson looks
Speaker 2: like he's gonna be an excellent slot player. Lad McConkie
Speaker 2: look like he's gonna be an excellent slot player. Like
Speaker 2: all of these guys, Like you literally go down the
Speaker 2: list and it's like, no one had a really bad day.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of any go ahead, So if
Speaker 1: we're going to.
Speaker 4: Go down the list, yeah, let's do that. I mean,
Speaker 4: if I'm just tuning in, yes, and I haven't done
Speaker 4: any researcher on.
Speaker 3: This, Yes, who are these guys? Like, so you're mentioning
Speaker 3: Johnny Wilson, let's just start there, Yeah, okay, very quickly,
Speaker 3: how would you describe Johnny Wilson? What's his skill set,
Speaker 3: what's his positives, what's his negatives? That's a great point
Speaker 3: because you're saying like, oh, he burned. This guy is
Speaker 3: a burner, but he's huge, Like, so tell us at.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: So basically, Johnny Wilson's in this very unique scenario and
Speaker 2: I think he's it's very relevant to the commanders because
Speaker 2: he's a guy. He's six ' six. I think you wait,
Speaker 2: I think you waited at two thirty seven. He's got
Speaker 2: thirty five inch arms, which are longer than most offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: He he's just a massive human being and everyone's like,
Speaker 2: should he move to tight end? So with him, a
Speaker 2: reason I was watching him with the second group is like,
Speaker 2: is he athletic enough and fast enough to win consistently
Speaker 2: versus press coverage at the NFL level? And I feel
Speaker 2: like he showed an ability to do that at a
Speaker 2: relatively high level to day, but it wasn't actualized today
Speaker 2: because the receivers kind of had a tough time. And
Speaker 2: I think a guy that we need to talk about
Speaker 2: is Xavier Loget in the same group. Really fast had
Speaker 2: the highest miles prower of any player in college FOOTBA
Speaker 2: last year. I think it was like twenty three miles
Speaker 2: per hour, which is faster than like Tyreek Hill He
Speaker 2: had a couple reps today where he is definitively beating
Speaker 2: the receiver just with pure speed down the field. He's
Speaker 2: a big guy, six to one, about two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty seven pounds, big, thick, aj brown looking guy. Not
Speaker 2: the most nuanced route rush runner of all time, but
Speaker 2: a big, physical dude beating guys down the field and
Speaker 2: we just couldn't get him the football. And so do
Speaker 2: I upgrade Lad mcconkney, who's like this five to eleven,
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty one hundred and ninety five pound
Speaker 2: guy from Georgia who's excellent I kind of as a
Speaker 2: slot receiver because he's able to get open in the
Speaker 2: short to intermediate level and the quarterback is able to
Speaker 2: hit him because it's easier.
Speaker 1: Throws or or how do I evaluate that?
Speaker 2: And so that's the thing I'm going to keep an
Speaker 2: eye on, because you saw the quality you wanted to
Speaker 2: see from Xavier l Get, but it just wasn't maximized.
Speaker 4: So I love comps, You know this, because I always.
Speaker 1: Ask you, comps, who does this guy look like?
Speaker 4: What does he look like?
Speaker 3: And the reason I do that is because as somebody
Speaker 3: who isn't in football all the time, right, watching film
Speaker 3: and grinding the way at it, like you are my guy.
Speaker 3: I want to say to myself, all right, who is
Speaker 3: this guy remind me of? So I can visualize somebody
Speaker 3: that I know? Right, So for Legett, you just said
Speaker 3: aj Brown, right, And then we were just talking about
Speaker 3: Johnny Wilson.
Speaker 2: Right, you're, like I said, yeah, like a like a
Speaker 2: less coordinated Keenan Allen. He's kind of like not super fast,
Speaker 2: but he's pretty sudden. He understands what he's good at.
Speaker 2: He uses his long arms like the goat that he
Speaker 2: got open to day. He grabbed the receiver by the
Speaker 2: shoulder pads, threw him forward. He was trying to press
Speaker 2: him up, gets him stacked. Great job, just needs an
Speaker 2: opportunity on the football. And I think you saw that
Speaker 2: he ran a dig today, really nice dig, really good
Speaker 2: suddenness coming out of the break. The ball is way
Speaker 2: behind him and he throws those thirty five inch arms
Speaker 2: back to catch football. So you know, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson had a perfect practice again. I was frustrated
Speaker 2: by some of the stuff in between drills, some of
Speaker 2: his effort in blocking things like that, and that's why
Speaker 2: you're here to watch it, because then again I got you.
Speaker 1: Look at that.
Speaker 2: I was like blown away by from that standpoint, is
Speaker 2: Ryan Flora. I can't even say as let's same flower,
Speaker 2: Oh flower oe? How you say it? Look at it
Speaker 2: Ryan Floyd, That's I'm gonna say it. He but he's
Speaker 2: from a small school Late Ads, Southeast Missouri, and caught
Speaker 2: every ball that was thrown him, ran an excellent comeback today,
Speaker 2: created excellent separation. And the thing this is like nerdy
Speaker 2: scout stuff, but when you are with a receiver, someone
Speaker 2: that's not required to block, you get to see how
Speaker 2: much they love football. And this dude was absolutely throwing
Speaker 2: his stuff in there, trying to get after safety's trying
Speaker 2: to get after debes.
Speaker 1: And I just respect the hell of that.
Speaker 2: Cause because I if I'm betting, if I'm betting on
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, a guy that is very, very talented but
Speaker 2: doesn't show that effort compared to Ryan from Southeast Missouri,
Speaker 2: I say to myself, I would bet on Ryan because
Speaker 2: he can he can develop into a three with special
Speaker 2: teams upside, and he's a good football player. And so
Speaker 2: again that's why that's why you're here is to see
Speaker 2: how they not only do the big things, which is
Speaker 2: catching the football release on the route, but how they block,
Speaker 2: how they do some of that other stuff.
Speaker 3: So so let's do that real quick, all right. So
Speaker 3: what I want you to do? Okay, and we didn't
Speaker 3: talk about this in our production meetings, so I'm going
Speaker 3: to drop this.
Speaker 1: On putch on the spot.
Speaker 3: What I'm going to do is you're going to go
Speaker 3: down the roster of wide receivers. Yes, right, you know,
Speaker 3: to say a name you wanna say. All right, here's
Speaker 3: what this guy did well. Here's why Dan do well.
Speaker 3: Here's how he could fit with the commanders.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it right, so real quick, like.
Speaker 4: One one sentence on each one of those or two sentences, like.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pick guys that I think we need
Speaker 2: to talk about because some guys, let's do it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So for me, uh, Jacob Cowing from Arizona, small, undersized guy.
Speaker 2: I think you saw a guy that fits that slot
Speaker 2: receiver role.
Speaker 1: Kind of kind of like am and Ross Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: but a little bit smaller, a little bit fat.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more sudden, kind of like DeShawn
Speaker 2: Jackson ish in terms of skill set. Saw the deep ball,
Speaker 2: so you saw his trait, you saw his superpower. And
Speaker 2: I think that's another thing when you're looking at receivers specifically,
Speaker 2: is you want to see their trait, their superpower. So
Speaker 2: cowing speed, quickness, you saw it. Ricky piersall right, a
Speaker 2: guy that I absolutely loved.
Speaker 1: I loved everything he did.
Speaker 2: He's you know, we watched his film and I my
Speaker 2: first note was like, he will crush the Senior Bowl
Speaker 2: because he's super sudden, he's super refined in his routes.
Speaker 1: He's about six foot, he's a.
Speaker 2: Little under two hundred pounds, but he is He's just
Speaker 2: like this great you can play in the slot. I
Speaker 2: think he's good enough to play outside as a contested catchability,
Speaker 2: just a really solid receiver.
Speaker 4: How would he fit one of the commanders?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. So to me, it's like
Speaker 2: he gives you that kind of slot role. So maybe
Speaker 2: like that Curtis Samuel role if he isn't resigned here.
Speaker 2: And I think he gives you enough that he could
Speaker 2: potentially play outside and you can move Jahan and Teary
Speaker 2: around the formation, so it gives you a little flexibility.
Speaker 4: Is he too much like those two.
Speaker 1: I think he's a that's a I think that's a Really.
Speaker 4: Is he just so talented that's like just put him
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 1: I really like him. I really like him.
Speaker 2: Well, he's a guy that like you just like and
Speaker 2: I think he's but I do think he is similar
Speaker 2: to the other guys and so like that's why a
Speaker 2: guy like uh, Devontes Walker is a guy that's getting
Speaker 2: a lot of buzz from from scouts for the team
Speaker 2: because he's got a lot of speed. But again, I
Speaker 2: think he kind of feels like Diamie Brown the thing
Speaker 2: when he came in here. He's good at vertical routree.
Speaker 2: He's excellent at it. He did vertical routrey today. I
Speaker 2: needed to know if he can run an in cut.
Speaker 2: I need to know if he can run a stop.
Speaker 2: He ran a stop today on cam Hart and cam
Speaker 2: Hart is a corner for a Notre Dame. He's six
Speaker 2: to two and ten pounds, big guy. And cam hert
Speaker 2: ran the rat form and picked the ball off. So
Speaker 2: you're one opportunity to run something that wasn't a deep
Speaker 2: vertical post vertical comeback, whatever it is, it didn't go
Speaker 2: well for you. Again, it's the first day. We're not
Speaker 2: going to kill these guys. But that's something that that
Speaker 2: stuck out to me about him.
Speaker 1: And I'm just a guy, just a guy, all right, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 3: They put up on the board out there a Miles
Speaker 3: Prower that these guys were running on the field and
Speaker 3: Walker had the fastest time there, right, so he has
Speaker 3: that to beat. It was twenty one point eighteen miles.
Speaker 1: Which is out cooking really good.
Speaker 3: Now that being said, and again, I'm just a guy.
Speaker 3: This is not an analysis. He didn't stand out me
Speaker 3: like I never went ooh ever that whole day. And
Speaker 3: again that could be just I don't know what I'm
Speaker 3: looking at, but he was the fastest guy there. When
Speaker 3: I saw that up there, I was like, oh really,
Speaker 3: I didn't like, he didn't do anything.
Speaker 2: And so there was a couple of times like they
Speaker 2: did that one on one at the end. So that
Speaker 2: was another thing I liked about the first practice of
Speaker 2: the national team, the national roster.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: They got everyone together and they had callouts. So they
Speaker 2: had devontees Walker call out. I think it was the
Speaker 2: cornerback from Penn State, King King. Yeah, and he beat
Speaker 2: him on a go. The ball wasn't there, but he
Speaker 2: beat him on to go. So again I liked that
Speaker 2: he showed me that. But he he's a guy that
Speaker 2: I need to see, you know, some of that other
Speaker 2: stuff like So, for example, Brendan Rice today is a
Speaker 2: guy that I think we absolutely need to talk about.
Speaker 2: He's six to two, he's a little under six to two,
Speaker 2: He's about two hundred, two hundred and fifteen pounds, big
Speaker 2: guy physical, made some great contested catch today, fought through
Speaker 2: contact at a high level. He's a guy that feels
Speaker 2: like he could be that true too for you, right,
Speaker 2: really complete guy.
Speaker 1: Didn't love that.
Speaker 2: He didn't get a lot of separation, but really high
Speaker 2: level stuff. And then with the second group, I mean,
Speaker 2: we got to talk about Jawan Jackson, excellent thought receiver,
Speaker 2: did a great job there in the same way that
Speaker 2: like Ricky Pearsow's excellent running routes. This guys like that
Speaker 2: on steroids like Ricky Pearsaw, gives you some inside outside flexibility.
Speaker 2: I think Jakwan Jock Jackson excuse me as an inside
Speaker 2: player only, but it's excellent at that. We already talked
Speaker 2: about Ryan from Southeast Missouri did a great job today,
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, we talked about Xavier, Yet we talked about
Speaker 2: Lad mcconchney was maybe the best receiver in the second
Speaker 2: group today, Like just super efficient, won every one on
Speaker 2: one open all the time, super polished guy from Georgia.
Speaker 1: Again that slot role.
Speaker 2: So I think what you're seeing here, there's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of guys in my opinion, that can run the
Speaker 2: slot stuff at a high level. I think, and this
Speaker 2: is just my assessment, the commanders need another true outside guy.
Speaker 4: So in this Fitzabilli.
Speaker 2: So I think Xavier Leaguet is a guy you'd circle there,
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, if he can answer all these questions over
Speaker 2: the course of the next couple of days, maybe, right,
Speaker 2: davontees Walker maybe, and then Brendan Rice would be another
Speaker 2: big maybe they're Oh and the guy that I forgot
Speaker 2: And if you don't know this guy, you should definitely
Speaker 2: write his name down. Javon Baker from Central Florida, six ' one,
Speaker 2: two hundred and ten pounds an absolute He is like
Speaker 2: Johan Donson. If Johan Dotson like lived in the weight
Speaker 2: room for a year, Like he is big, he's physical,
Speaker 2: he's got this great nuance. He could be a true
Speaker 2: one in my opinion.
Speaker 4: You said if Johan Dotson went super silly, that's what's
Speaker 4: what you said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's in the notes. That's what I said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's that's kind of the vibe you
Speaker 2: get from him. He's great in contested catch situations. He's
Speaker 2: super physical. He's a guy that I think at the
Speaker 2: end of this week, after watching the day and watching
Speaker 2: his film, could progress into something special, like you might
Speaker 2: be talking about him at the end of the first round,
Speaker 2: early second round. And again, Washington's got a couple of
Speaker 2: picks there, so that would be He's Those kind of
Speaker 2: four names are guys that I've kind of circled for
Speaker 2: outside receiver need. And again I'm not saying Terry's not
Speaker 2: doing a good job. I'm not saying Johan's doing a
Speaker 2: good job. But I just say, we love when you
Speaker 2: look at the playoff pictures and you look at the
Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs, they have multiple different types of
Speaker 2: receivers that bring different skill sets and can These are
Speaker 2: guys that bring different skill sets and I think that's
Speaker 2: why we've kind of highlighted them. Again, receiver not a
Speaker 2: huge need for this team, but adding some depth there
Speaker 2: and just somebody who can come in and say I've
Speaker 2: got an excellent fastball, or my curve ball is unbeatable,
Speaker 2: or my jump ball abilities next level. Right, if Johnny
Speaker 2: Wilson can show you that, or Devontes Walker if he
Speaker 2: can just say you can't cover me on a go,
Speaker 2: I don't care what the score is. Those are the
Speaker 2: types of qualities we're looking for for that outside guy.
Speaker 2: Brendan Rice again, very physical guy on the outside. So
Speaker 2: that's I think kind of a good way to look
Speaker 2: at the receivers. And I think the other group we
Speaker 2: got to talk about is the offensive line.
Speaker 1: What do you want to say? Offensive line?
Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, let's go offensive line. I was going to
Speaker 3: ask a quick question. The question being we mentioned the
Speaker 3: quarterback play was you know, neither here nor there. We're
Speaker 3: not going to overreact state one, like we said, and everybody's.
Speaker 4: New with each other.
Speaker 1: They take good tight.
Speaker 3: So how much of that second group would you say
Speaker 3: was all right? Quarterback play may not have been there,
Speaker 3: but these corners there is some good corner play there too.
Speaker 3: That played into that because the what was that? The
Speaker 3: who went second? That was the American roster went second. Yeah,
Speaker 3: National roster ones No, no, no, American they went second.
Speaker 3: So they look like they had a better defense.
Speaker 1: They just looked.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about those corners. We're talking about wide receivers.
Speaker 3: What are some of the corners, what'd you see from them?
Speaker 3: And then we'll go to line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the corners were interesting in this group because,
Speaker 2: like I thought, some guy like Andrew Phillips from Kentucky
Speaker 2: stuck out to me as a guy that was very competitive,
Speaker 2: but he's the guy that gets speaked by Johnny Wilson
Speaker 2: on the deep ball.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I thought he did a great job like that kind
Speaker 2: of clicking close ability, hyper aggressive, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: a junkyard dog mentality at the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: Thought he did a great job with that.
Speaker 2: And then I think the thing that again sticks out
Speaker 2: to me is the safety from Maryland from Miami. We
Speaker 2: got to talk about him, Cameron Kitchens. I thought he
Speaker 2: lost a route to Jakwan Jackson in the one on ones,
Speaker 2: but he's his closing ability was so on point. Like
Speaker 2: so basically for people who don't know, like in one
Speaker 2: on ones, basically you play the defense like you've got
Speaker 2: help middlefield safety help, right, And so when the receiver
Speaker 2: runs across the formation, they're technically running to your help
Speaker 2: or the help would be in the defense. So if
Speaker 2: you win on a crossing route, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: so if you went on a basic or like a
Speaker 2: like I'm pushing to ten and I'm cutting in, that's.
Speaker 1: A legitimate route. If I'm winning on a route where.
Speaker 2: I'm running like at an angle across the field, it's
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bastardization of the drill because
Speaker 2: you're kind of running to where there should be somebody
Speaker 2: to play. And so on this rep with with camera Kitchens,
Speaker 2: great click and close, closed the window nice and tight
Speaker 2: on lad Maconkey, and the ball was completed. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's a win that that's a win technically for that
Speaker 2: football player, and that's something.
Speaker 1: That you he pushed to the help which.
Speaker 2: Isn't there because it's a one on one, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think I think that's excellent. But I think
Speaker 2: the the thing in the team period that stuck out
Speaker 2: to me is just how much better that defensive line was. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the corners did a great job. They were very competitive
Speaker 2: at the catch point all day and I think that's
Speaker 2: the thing is the quarterbacks in that second group, you know,
Speaker 2: your Spencer Rattlers, your Joe Milton's, your your Pratts, all
Speaker 2: those guys, they kind of gave the DB's opportunities to
Speaker 2: make plays on the ball. And also the other thing
Speaker 2: I will say is I don't know who the coaches
Speaker 2: for the American team, but they were very okay with
Speaker 2: a lot of defensive pass interference. And so I think
Speaker 2: that's also something I want to see from the receivers
Speaker 2: is how do you handle that kind of stuff?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: So but yeah, So to me, it's the quarters are
Speaker 2: going to get a lot of credit because they kind
Speaker 2: of kept the receivers in check. But to me, it's
Speaker 2: the it's the it's the defensive line, where for that
Speaker 2: group specifically just looked incredibly incredibly dynamic, incredibly physical, Like
Speaker 2: it was a noticeable difference between the American roster and
Speaker 2: the national roster in terms of just physical size. I
Speaker 2: mean you pointed out like right when they came on
Speaker 2: the field, He's like, look at Sweat, look at all
Speaker 2: these big.
Speaker 4: Big Sweat is a large man.
Speaker 2: He is a large man. Who's who's what would he say?
Speaker 2: He's got a pretty good get off. Know what, how
Speaker 2: do we characterize that? He's got a he can get
Speaker 2: off for a little bit of time. He's quick, been short.
Speaker 4: Bursts, he's very scary for two seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for two seconds there. He's got some good twitch
Speaker 2: to him. And then so he was one piece and
Speaker 2: he's and if you don't know who that is, he's
Speaker 2: from Texas.
Speaker 1: He's I think he's six ' four.
Speaker 2: He's he didn't weigh in, which tells me he's probably
Speaker 2: about four hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he threes sixty four is what we had
Speaker 1: him at.
Speaker 3: Well, we had him at but then he was he
Speaker 3: did all the other measurables here.
Speaker 4: It's set weight.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he's like, not yet, yeah, not yet.
Speaker 2: And obviously defensive tackle McKinley Jackson from Texas A and
Speaker 2: M six on three point thirty one I thought had
Speaker 2: an excellent TATIONE. So think about those two guys. You
Speaker 2: come out here for the Senior Bowl man, you're you're
Speaker 2: excited to show off in front of scouts. You get
Speaker 2: a guy who's close to four hundred pounds in sweat,
Speaker 2: and you get McKinley, who is again three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty one pounds and he's six one. He's built like
Speaker 2: a fire hydrant. There was a play where someone cut him.
Speaker 2: He put his hand on the ground and his legs
Speaker 2: just were under him immediately like because he was so
Speaker 2: like his his proportions are such. So those are the
Speaker 2: two d defensive tackles. Darius Robinson, number six from Missouri
Speaker 2: is six five to ninety. He's your defensive end.
Speaker 4: So we need to talk about defensive end.
Speaker 3: Do you know the commanders, Yes, that's right, we need it.
Speaker 3: So give us the defensive end here. Tell us who
Speaker 3: these guys are, how they would fit with us, what
Speaker 3: we're looking at from him. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: good ones out there.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of really fantastic ones, and I
Speaker 2: think in the second group it was just a physical group.
Speaker 2: But I want to say, we don't really know exactly
Speaker 2: what we're looking for yet because we don't have the
Speaker 2: head coach. But I'm looking for good football players, right,
Speaker 2: and so we probably don't need defensive tackle. Maybe we
Speaker 2: have a defensive tackle depth piece, right, but that'll probably
Speaker 2: happen later. But for me, this guy Darius Robinson from
Speaker 2: Missouri fits the bill because I think he can stand
Speaker 2: up in a three four. He can play a five
Speaker 2: technique if you want him to. He rushed inside today
Speaker 2: during one on ones and killed some guards. He rushed
Speaker 2: on the edge with great power, great runway. So I
Speaker 2: like that flexibility on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He's big, he's physical, he's nasty, he finished hard.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I think today he made himself some money. I thought
Speaker 2: maybe he'd sneaking the day three and you kind of
Speaker 2: fall into some you know, really nice. I think he
Speaker 2: might be a top of Day two guy now, but
Speaker 2: but off a one day because the thing about that
Speaker 2: is it supports it's supported by his film. He plays
Speaker 2: that way on film. So you bring him here, you say, oh,
Speaker 2: is he going to be able to match up with
Speaker 2: this level of competition, you know, the guidance of the world,
Speaker 2: all these different guys, and he looked like one of
Speaker 2: the better players on the field.
Speaker 4: It is he remind you of give me that comp.
Speaker 2: One down there, I mean lazy. So basically what he
Speaker 2: reminds me of is he's he's two ninety six five
Speaker 2: to ninety's like rocked up, so like he reminds me
Speaker 2: of like a like a superhero, you know, but he
Speaker 2: plays like a super villain if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: So love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's like he's like i'd say, he plays kind
Speaker 2: of like Montes Sweat if Montes Sweat was too ninety,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, physical through your face. Like
Speaker 2: I just enjoyed watching him play today a lot.
Speaker 1: And uh, and I.
Speaker 2: Think he's very, very physically talented. But again, this guy's like, uh,
Speaker 2: he's one of the guys. Chris Braswell from Alabama. I
Speaker 2: thought did a great job today, Like he had a
Speaker 2: rep versus Patrick Paul today. Patrick Paul is the biggest
Speaker 2: man here at the event. He's six seven, he's three thirty,
Speaker 2: he's got thirty six inch arms. He's from Houston. Everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of circled him as their potential fast riser, a
Speaker 2: guy that could push into the early second round. I
Speaker 2: see a lot of technical deficiencies with his game. And
Speaker 2: Braswell is not a big man. You know, he played
Speaker 2: stand up outside lambert backer at at Alabama. He's six
Speaker 2: threes too. He's heavy weight, heavier than I thought. He's
Speaker 2: two fifty seven, so a bigger guy than I thought.
Speaker 2: But plays with great power. And so first rep you're
Speaker 2: going against a mountain and he just walked him back
Speaker 2: into the quarterback and so I say, like, that is
Speaker 2: showing again, what's your superpower, what's your trait? You know,
Speaker 2: we saw with Darius Robinson the ability to play outside
Speaker 2: inside with great power and great explosive, with great, great effort.
Speaker 2: And Chris braswell, you're a power rusher. Can you rush
Speaker 2: pass rush with power and NFL style body? And that
Speaker 2: was something that I thought he showed today, you know.
Speaker 2: And then in the first group, you got a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys who I thought so while there was a
Speaker 2: lot of guys, and then we also got to mention
Speaker 2: Miles Cole from Texas Tech. Big physical, long guy, very twitchy,
Speaker 2: but again six five two eighty five thirty five inch arms,
Speaker 2: kind of these big freaks. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: did that on purpose. But the second group just had
Speaker 2: these monstrous defensive players, especially on the defensive line that
Speaker 2: we're able to compress pockets at a really high level
Speaker 2: and made a challenging for the for the American roster
Speaker 2: offense to be successful.
Speaker 1: But think about the group.
Speaker 2: In the morning, how they're much more like pass rush
Speaker 2: specific You got a lot too, lots to a guy
Speaker 2: that we've talked about a lot he is. I mean
Speaker 2: watching him do bag drills, watching him pass rush. Dude,
Speaker 2: he reminds me of Jared Allen in the sense I
Speaker 2: played against Jared Allen.
Speaker 1: There's certain pass rushes you.
Speaker 2: Play against that don't have bones in their body, and
Speaker 2: he doesn't have bones. Like you go to punch him
Speaker 2: and he's just able to give at the right time,
Speaker 2: duck at the right time, bend at the right time.
Speaker 3: So is his comp like a waterfall. It's like it's
Speaker 3: so smooth but powerful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's exactly right. And so Talisi Fuaga got
Speaker 2: after him today. But don't let that one rep you're
Speaker 2: going to see on Twitter take away from his day.
Speaker 2: Like he is just to me, he's probably the best
Speaker 2: defensive player in the draft potentially.
Speaker 4: So where would he potentially go in the draft?
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
Speaker 4: Give me like a range. Is he mid first round
Speaker 4: or early first round or is it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll give you range.
Speaker 2: So in my mock, he would be the he'd go
Speaker 2: he'd go nine to whoever I had him going to.
Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but let me explain. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, So talent wise, film wise nine, Okay, he's excellent,
Speaker 2: he might not test great, Like I think he'll test fine.
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll test exceptionally well. He also has
Speaker 2: extreme extreme medical concerns, extreme medical concerns. He medically retired
Speaker 2: from U DUB with a neck issue, was set out
Speaker 2: of football for two years and then couldn't get cleared
Speaker 2: by Cow because the medical issue was so significant, and
Speaker 2: then the UCLA cleared him.
Speaker 1: So he played the full year.
Speaker 2: And he's fine from what I understand, But he will
Speaker 2: get pushed down draft boards because of that, because a
Speaker 2: lot of teams will have a fail grade on him,
Speaker 2: like a red grade. It means they won't draft him.
Speaker 3: So Commander is centric, Yes, right, number two overall pick,
Speaker 3: you're not taking him there, not taking them there right,
Speaker 3: assuming that where it's staying at number two, Yeah, chances
Speaker 3: of us getting this guy pretty thin. We'd have to
Speaker 3: move up for it, or we'd have to trade back
Speaker 3: into because he's in that weird spot where like he's
Speaker 3: not going to fall to the second round for us,
Speaker 3: and we're too high to take a chance on somebody
Speaker 3: that has that medical history.
Speaker 4: That's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I would say is, like you've got
Speaker 2: Jared Verse from Florida State, he'll probably go ahead of him,
Speaker 2: and then Dallas Turner from Alabama will probably go ahead
Speaker 2: of him. So maybe he slips down into a spot where, hey,
Speaker 2: at thirty five, we're really fortunate we have a top
Speaker 2: ten talent who's here at thirty five. I personally think
Speaker 2: a team will take a shot on him before then
Speaker 2: because the film's so good. But again, you never know.
Speaker 2: He is kind of in that no man's land between.
Speaker 2: I think he's a top ten pick. But let's say,
Speaker 2: for example, the medical he doesn't test well, he's still
Speaker 2: going to go in the first one.
Speaker 4: We've had people with medical concerns drop that.
Speaker 1: Montesoat's a great example. Yea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's possible that if he falls far enough,
Speaker 3: maybe we're trading up or trading that we don't. I
Speaker 3: just want to preface this, we don't know anything about
Speaker 3: what our organization's going to do. Direct all speculating, right,
Speaker 3: but like that's what's fun to do with leading up
Speaker 3: to their draft, is trying to guess what we could
Speaker 3: do to get these top players that we're seeing here. Right, So, medical,
Speaker 3: maybe he falls down, Maybe the commanders go, we really
Speaker 3: need an edge.
Speaker 4: Let's take it, let's take a chance. We move up.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, like he's he's a really good player.
Speaker 2: He's a really good player, good player, and he looks
Speaker 2: it and he's here, he looks at.
Speaker 4: Jared Allen's a great cop man.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. So guy with no bones, So that's always good.
Speaker 2: But again there's other guys that rush the passer well,
Speaker 2: like Brendan McGregor from Michigan is a guy that reminds
Speaker 2: me a lot of like Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: Like he's big, he's.
Speaker 2: Tall, he's like six ' five, he's like two seventy
Speaker 2: stand up edge, had a great power move today on
Speaker 2: the tackle. He is a guy that again is probably
Speaker 2: going to be there when the commanders are picking right.
Speaker 2: And then you've got a guy like Javon Solomon, who
Speaker 2: is this really tiny, undersized stroutger. He's six foot, he's
Speaker 2: two forty. He looks like he's two fifty. Excuse he
Speaker 2: looks like James Harrison a little bit, but has a
Speaker 2: lot of pass rush juice. So if you're looking for
Speaker 2: a rotational guy that adds some pass rush juice, kind
Speaker 2: of like like huff up in with the new York Jets.
Speaker 2: He would be an interesting pick, I think, so they are,
Speaker 2: there are pieces there that'll be there later. I think
Speaker 2: another guy is Marshaun Keelan from Western Michigan six ' three,
Speaker 2: two sixty eight, good power, good solid football player. So
Speaker 2: there all are these guys. The problem with good solid
Speaker 2: football players, at least them showing at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 2: is they're gonna go in the second round, so you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to use probably thirty five or thirty eight
Speaker 2: on that player in terms of making sure you allocate
Speaker 2: one of the guys we just talked about outside of
Speaker 2: outside of latou Lat too. All those other guys I
Speaker 2: mentioned are guys that are are viable there. Right Miles
Speaker 2: Cole I think is probably more of a third or
Speaker 2: fourth round guy. But the way that Darius Robinson played today,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent available on the board, I think as
Speaker 2: a player, right, Marshall Keelan one hundred percent. Javon Solomon
Speaker 2: later but obviously pass Rush Juice Brad McGregor feels like
Speaker 2: a second maybe third round player.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what you're talking about there.
Speaker 3: So with five picks in the first three rounds, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for Washington and you won.
Speaker 4: An edge, right, assuming.
Speaker 3: That that's what they want to go with here. Not
Speaker 3: in the first round, right, and let's say we're talking
Speaker 3: more second, third round. Yeah, who would be the guy's like, Hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna just watch this guy. Yeah right, not we
Speaker 3: should take him because we don't know yet.
Speaker 4: I don't know based on what.
Speaker 3: We seen' let's take a look at this guy. Could
Speaker 3: be a good find in the late second, early.
Speaker 2: Third, late second, So I would say a late second,
Speaker 2: early third, that's tough man. I think Javon Solomon he
Speaker 2: caught my eye a little bit today, which I was
Speaker 2: excited about. Again, not an every down player, but with
Speaker 2: enough juice. So you say, hey, man in the right role,
Speaker 2: in the right situation, in the right rotation, could be
Speaker 2: a you know, seven to ten sac guy, which is incredible.
Speaker 4: What about him stuck out that is incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just there's certain guys that have it as
Speaker 2: pass rushers, Right, so when you watch a lot two
Speaker 2: dudes got no bones, Like he looks amazing, right and
Speaker 2: he gets but all pass rushers get got but his ability.
Speaker 2: He had a rep on Morgan, who again is a
Speaker 2: first round tackle from Arizona where he just Morgan goes
Speaker 2: to punch him, he just dips his chops, the hand,
Speaker 2: dips the shoulder, plants the foot, his shoulders at Morgan's hip,
Speaker 2: and then he just works around the corner and probably
Speaker 2: would have gotten a sack and it just looked easy
Speaker 2: for him, right. So with Javon Solomon, you see some
Speaker 2: of the same stuff. It's stylistically it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more kind of kind of these boundy,
Speaker 2: explosive steps. But he's able to kind of set the
Speaker 2: line of the tackle, adjust the line of the tackle,
Speaker 2: and then work edges at a high level, you know,
Speaker 2: with with good power and rip to finish, which again
Speaker 2: some of those shorter pass rushers have the ability to do.
Speaker 2: So I think he's an interesting one. A guy that
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about. Where's his name on here, the
Speaker 2: kid from Penn State.
Speaker 1: Isaac Isaac, I thought flashed something to me today. So again,
Speaker 1: not a first round guy.
Speaker 2: Maybe in that top second, maybe he slides down a
Speaker 2: little bit because he's a little bit stiff. But I
Speaker 2: think he's a really good football player and he's got
Speaker 2: some explosive qualities to them that make you say, hey,
Speaker 2: so I came into this process at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 2: and thinking if they don't get an edge in the
Speaker 2: first round, they're going to be kind of in a
Speaker 2: lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: But I think we've just talked about.
Speaker 2: Five, six, seven guys that are second and third round
Speaker 2: players that add value and have some flexibility to play
Speaker 2: different positions on the defensive line. So I think that's
Speaker 2: how I would look at that group. But again that
Speaker 2: the group specifically with the national roster, that big physical
Speaker 2: or to excuse me, with the American roster, that big
Speaker 2: physical group really stuck out today. They almost dominated all
Speaker 2: of my vision today because they were just so physical
Speaker 2: upfront against that offensive line. Again, Washington needs some offensive linements.
Speaker 2: Maybe go maybe go there next? What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, let's move to offensive line. I want our
Speaker 3: listeners to know that we know linebacker is important. Safety
Speaker 3: is important. We touched on corner a little bit. We're
Speaker 3: gonna we're doing this the next few days and then
Speaker 3: we're going to have another pod that's like a big
Speaker 3: recap at the Senior Bowl and everything a big review.
Speaker 3: So we'll touch on those positions, I promise. But for
Speaker 3: the sake of I'm a brevity's let's do a line.
Speaker 2: Okay, And it's important to note just for the fans,
Speaker 2: that these drills they favor defensive linemen and they favor.
Speaker 1: Receivers, so they're easier to see those reps. Right.
Speaker 2: It's hard for dbs to win the one on ones.
Speaker 2: It's harder for offensive lineman to win and one on one.
Speaker 2: So when the offensive line do win them and again
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, they get more one on one reps.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They kind of like you were out there today, They
Speaker 2: just rapid fire through them, one after another, the receivers
Speaker 2: and the dbs. It takes them a long time, so
Speaker 2: you don't get the volume. But we do have some
Speaker 2: guys that we like and they we're excited about. It's
Speaker 2: just it's harder to evaluate them in this setting like this.
Speaker 2: To me, if if you're if you're a defensive lineman,
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, receiver, tight end, you know, offensive skill player.
Speaker 2: This is for you defensively, it can be very challenging
Speaker 2: to be successful here.
Speaker 3: You said something to Fred on the last Command Center. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not the podcast to show which everybody can check out
Speaker 3: on YouTube. It's the one where you guys are at
Speaker 3: the fire pit. If you want to find this conversation
Speaker 3: looking at with Fred. But you said, like, the hardest
Speaker 3: thing to evaluate is the DB's and Fred looked at
Speaker 3: you all funny because Fred's a dB and he thought
Speaker 3: you were taking a shot at him.
Speaker 4: But you're not.
Speaker 3: Because one of the things I'm trying to do is
Speaker 3: producing this is I'm trying to just watch as much
Speaker 3: film as I can, not because I know anything, but
Speaker 3: because I want to have an idea of who you're
Speaker 3: talking about, right, just so I can picture somebody in
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 4: And you're exactly right, because the.
Speaker 3: Thing it's for me, it was highlights are the only
Speaker 3: thing that really work, work because if the ball doesn't
Speaker 3: go to them, that may be a win. But nobody
Speaker 3: cuts those highlights for you. Nobody cuts, oh he didn't
Speaker 3: target over here and the quarterback me and not thrown
Speaker 3: over there because blanket coverage is great coverage. So who's
Speaker 3: watching through games to see a if that's the read
Speaker 3: be what type of coverage that is and see if
Speaker 3: the corner was so locked on him the ball doesn't
Speaker 3: go there and saying oh that's a great play. It's
Speaker 3: the same sort of thing here to me, right, Like
Speaker 3: I don't the one on ones. Yes, but like you said,
Speaker 3: I would have never have known that like that route.
Speaker 4: In Yeah, well he's pushing the help.
Speaker 3: So that guy caught the ball and it looks like,
Speaker 3: oh he got the dB on that one on one,
Speaker 3: but the DB's pushing the help. Like that's exactly the
Speaker 3: right technique you want to see, right, and I wantn't
Speaker 3: know that. So well, all of this to say is
Speaker 3: that dB is a very deep conversation. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 3: like it's just difficult for me to understand. So I'm
Speaker 3: going to ask you a lot about that and we'll
Speaker 3: do that in the next few days.
Speaker 2: And again, it's it's hard to do dB because like
Speaker 2: think about targets like target share, Like you go through
Speaker 2: PFF metrics and you'll have a guy who's been targeted
Speaker 2: over the course of a season. So in the NFL,
Speaker 2: we're talking eighteen games, sometimes with the playoffs, it's more
Speaker 2: than that. You're talking thousands of snaps and they'll have
Speaker 2: twenty targets, thirty targets, forty targets. That's forty plays for
Speaker 2: you to like evaluate because like they it's unlike an
Speaker 2: offensive lineman or a running back, like they're getting the ball,
Speaker 2: they're in the path they're in, They're in the thick
Speaker 2: of it, right, and with defensive backs, And I've heard
Speaker 2: this from scouts across every every team I've been on,
Speaker 2: is because they just don't get the play volume. And
Speaker 2: so here it's tough too, because they don't get the
Speaker 2: play volume because of the rotations and because of how
Speaker 2: the practices are structured. So we're gonna try and get
Speaker 2: our best evaluation. Know, I talked about cam Heart's interception,
Speaker 2: did a great job on that, but that's one play.
Speaker 1: So how did he do for the rest of practice?
Speaker 1: Harder to discern?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where we need Fred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just need Fred, need Fred, right, and for
Speaker 2: cam Heart, that's a great example. I know we're getting sidetracked,
Speaker 2: but that's what I do. I get sidetracked a LADYHD.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So they were in cover three. Someone completes an out
Speaker 2: on him. But am I mad at him for letting
Speaker 2: the out get completed in cover three?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Like, that's the hook player's responsibility. So how do you
Speaker 2: grade that. We're gonna work on it. We'll figure something out.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about O line.
Speaker 3: And there was a guy that really stood out, but
Speaker 3: don't say his name. This is called a tease. We're
Speaker 3: gonna talk about some alignment. But there was a guy
Speaker 3: that like really shot out. We're going to talk about
Speaker 3: him last. Okay, Okay, So go through these and then
Speaker 3: we'll let you know who was like.
Speaker 2: The guy really good. So let me see we are
Speaker 2: with the Let's start with the American roster. Okay, So
Speaker 2: the American roster, it was a bunch of guys that
Speaker 2: I was really no, let's start with.
Speaker 1: The national roster.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, gosh, I'm all over the place here, Jason.
Speaker 2: So the first guy that I want to talk about
Speaker 2: is King Lee Kingsley Sumataia and he's from BYU. A
Speaker 2: little bit of a developmental guy, but a guy that
Speaker 2: I thought, with his great physicality, did some really good
Speaker 2: stuff today. Kind of bodied up defenders, got in front
Speaker 2: of guys, handled the bull rush again, not overly technically
Speaker 2: sound necessarily, but a guy that stuck out to me
Speaker 2: from a physical presence type of standpoint.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Then there's the big dog Talisi Fuaga, who everyone's going
Speaker 2: to be talking about Oregon State. I have him, honestly
Speaker 2: as a top ten pick. I have him as my
Speaker 2: second tackle in the entire draft. Really good football player,
Speaker 2: just kind of a weird build, got shorter arms, thirty
Speaker 2: three inch arms, But love the physicality, loved the mindset.
Speaker 2: I want to see a little bit more from him
Speaker 2: as the week goes on in terms of that physicality
Speaker 2: I saw at Oregon State. To me, it looks like
Speaker 2: he's still trying to kind of figure stuff out, figure
Speaker 2: out like what he's good at, figure out what he's
Speaker 2: comfortable with in terms of the new offense that he's learning.
Speaker 1: So that's something I'm going to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan.
Speaker 2: Another guy is a guy that is everyone has very
Speaker 2: high on their boards, but I think is very technically raw.
Speaker 2: I think he's a guy that has a little bit
Speaker 2: of developing to do. But I thought he showed some
Speaker 2: good development. So all the kind of rawness on his film,
Speaker 2: I know he's been working with a personal a line coach.
Speaker 2: Thought he looked a lot better today and hopefully he
Speaker 2: looks better for the rest of the week. And then
Speaker 2: a guy that absolutely dominated on the interior was Jackson Powers.
Speaker 2: Johnson he's three hundred and twenty pounds, is that right?
Speaker 2: Three hundred and twenty ish pounds and he plays center
Speaker 2: and guard and basically one all of us one on
Speaker 2: ones and looks very confident doing it. Hard to see
Speaker 2: in the teamwork because he gets mixed in it. But
Speaker 2: here at the at the Senia Bowl, if you win
Speaker 2: one on ones and you're that dude, like, that's impressive,
Speaker 2: and I think he just he really stuck out from
Speaker 2: that standpoint, and a guy that I'm excited to watch
Speaker 2: more of as the week goes on, because you know,
Speaker 2: he's probably the number one center on a lot of
Speaker 2: guys boards. But it's always fun to kind of see
Speaker 2: those guys develop as the week.
Speaker 1: As the week goes on. So that's the national roster.
Speaker 2: Good good tackles, and you know those are kind of
Speaker 2: honestly like probably the higher graded group. Maybe we'll see
Speaker 2: Tyler g guy that I like a lot in the
Speaker 2: second group. Converted tight end went to Oklahoma sixty seven,
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds. And you see the transition
Speaker 2: of position here, right. You see a tremendous athlete. You
Speaker 2: see a guy who moves exceptionally well. You see a
Speaker 2: guy that scouts and coaches are going to just fall
Speaker 2: in love with because he's so big and he's so
Speaker 2: athletic but still learning some of the finer points of
Speaker 2: the position. I thought he had some really competitive reps today.
Speaker 2: We talked about the defensive line, how physical they were,
Speaker 2: and you know, I thought he had a couple reps
Speaker 2: so they could have been better, but I thought he
Speaker 2: had a couple of reps where he looked really physically
Speaker 2: in control, which for a guy that's gonna potentially be
Speaker 2: a first round pick, I think is pretty exciting. Del
Speaker 2: Mar Glaize from Maryland is a guy that had a
Speaker 2: very quiet day, but a very consistent day. I thought
Speaker 2: he was very consistent with his pass sets. They did
Speaker 2: like a one on one run drill where I thought
Speaker 2: he was able to kind of create some good bend,
Speaker 2: create some good movement. And then a guy that I
Speaker 2: was lower on, Javon Foster out of Missouri, I thought,
Speaker 2: again showed some of the issues that I had with
Speaker 2: him today, but I thought was more competitive at this
Speaker 2: level than I thought he would be. He's six ' five,
Speaker 2: three hundred and ten pounds, thirty five inch arms, so
Speaker 2: a guy that you look at the frame, you say, man,
Speaker 2: everything's on the table for him.
Speaker 1: Very exciting.
Speaker 2: And then another guy, Patrick Paul I'm sure a lot
Speaker 2: of you guys have heard of him.
Speaker 1: He's from Houston.
Speaker 2: He's six seven, three hundred thirty pounds, thirty six hitch
Speaker 2: arms guy that I was not super stoked on and
Speaker 2: because of some technical issues I saw in his pass
Speaker 2: sets and stuff, and some of that stuff came out today.
Speaker 2: I thought in one on one is probably his first
Speaker 2: three or four to one on ones in pass protection.
Speaker 2: Just couldn't quite get his bearings right. Braswell bullshed him
Speaker 2: the next d Ligneman bulls him, and he couldn't in college.
Speaker 1: He was so big.
Speaker 2: He would just basically open up his hands, let you
Speaker 2: run down his middle and he would just grab you.
Speaker 2: At this level, these guys are too explosive, they're too powerful.
Speaker 2: That's one where you say the frame is there, the
Speaker 2: physicality is there. Of he had probably the best one
Speaker 2: on one run blocking rep today. Fit his guy up
Speaker 2: and kept his feet moving like he wasn't there and
Speaker 2: literally in a one on one drill. I can't explain
Speaker 2: to your heart this says drove him five yards off
Speaker 2: the ball. It was an incredible rep. But that's that's
Speaker 2: also colored by these really bad misses. So he's a
Speaker 2: guy has it all physically over the next three days,
Speaker 2: can he figure it out and handle some of these
Speaker 2: stronger guys.
Speaker 4: So the Commander's offensive line as it currently.
Speaker 3: Is, Yes, you got a dog with cosmia garden dog, right,
Speaker 3: he's I think PFF.
Speaker 4: Had him rated is like if not the eye as
Speaker 4: one of the eyes guards.
Speaker 1: Over the last eight weeks of this season. Is the
Speaker 1: highest graded guard in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was playing against some good guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably looking for tackle, you would think, right, if
Speaker 3: you're gonna go O line, that's where you want.
Speaker 1: That's why I focus that on.
Speaker 3: So a lot of these guys play tackle in college,
Speaker 3: but they don't always translate.
Speaker 4: The tackle here in the NFL. They end up being guards.
Speaker 3: So if you want to tackle, it's the history shows
Speaker 3: that you have to. You have to get one pretty early.
Speaker 3: So again we're at number two. Yeah, probably not taking
Speaker 3: a tackle. So who here do you think of these
Speaker 3: guys that stood out? Are you like they could come
Speaker 3: and be a part of this offensive line with the commanders?
Speaker 3: Really help us out, Like is there any are they
Speaker 3: all depth pieces right that we're talking about right now? Like,
Speaker 3: give me the evaluation on how they would fit in
Speaker 3: on this team day one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you know, obviously I mentioned Fuaga
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be a first round guy, like not,
Speaker 2: probably is gonna be first after the second round, after
Speaker 2: the second overall pick. Right, then you've got Tyler Guidon,
Speaker 2: who I bet by the end of this week, if
Speaker 2: he develops the way people anticipate him developing with the
Speaker 2: higher level of competition, is going to be gone. Right,
Speaker 2: So that leaves a very different type of player, you know.
Speaker 2: It leaves like Kingsley Sue Mattia, who is very good
Speaker 2: but a little bit raw, and I think fans are
Speaker 2: going to freak out and be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: we can't take a raw guy too. The NFL, this
Speaker 2: process is about projecting. So does this guy have the
Speaker 2: traits to get you there? And I think he does, right,
Speaker 2: I think he's got the traits. It's just about does
Speaker 2: he get with the right alliant coach and does he
Speaker 2: develop the way you want him to? Because I do
Speaker 2: think he definitely could do that, right. He's definitely big enough,
Speaker 2: he's definitely athletic enough. Technically, there are some issues there.
Speaker 2: Another developmental guy is Ethan Driscoll from Marshall. He's six.
Speaker 2: I think he's six eight. He's like three p thirty, big, long,
Speaker 2: tall guy, looks like a basketball player honestly figuring it
Speaker 2: out with this level of competition. Lost a rep in
Speaker 2: his one on one today, But I think there's enough
Speaker 2: movement skills that he could be like a Spencer Brown.
Speaker 2: And Spencer Brown has been the starting right tackle for
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills for the last five years so or
Speaker 2: of the last four years. So there is that guy too.
Speaker 2: I think a guy that sticks out to me is
Speaker 2: a guy that we were saving. We'll save him for
Speaker 2: a second. But del Mar Glaize I think is pretty polished.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good enough athlete. It just depends
Speaker 2: on how how motivated is to be great, Like that's
Speaker 2: his thing for.
Speaker 1: Me when I watch him.
Speaker 2: Javon Foster developmental the guy from Missouri again, Paul Patrick
Speaker 2: or Patrick Paull.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: As a guy, you'd say, yes, physically, that's the guy
Speaker 2: we want, that's the right tackle of the future. But
Speaker 2: I think he needs to be with the right kind
Speaker 2: of a line coach. I think he needs an elite
Speaker 2: O line coach to get him there, and when he's there,
Speaker 2: his ceiling is so high, He's probably got one of
Speaker 2: the higher ceilings of this group.
Speaker 4: It's just what gives him that high ceiling.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. So I think, to me, it's
Speaker 2: the length. You just can't coach his frame. He's six seven,
Speaker 2: he's three thirty. He's got thirty six inch arm, which
Speaker 2: would have been the longest arms of the combine last year.
Speaker 2: And when with that length, you can be so disruptive
Speaker 2: to tackles, and I think you see that with Dwan
Speaker 2: Jones last year. Dewan's Jones would just use his length
Speaker 2: disrupt the pass rusher's flow.
Speaker 4: He was on Cleveland by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played for Cleveland. Did such a great job
Speaker 2: of that and did a great job throughout the process
Speaker 2: of showing you that on film. It's not something that
Speaker 2: every person with long arms is good at, which is
Speaker 2: why I think that's a huge projection to be like,
Speaker 2: this guy is going to be good because of his frame.
Speaker 2: He needs to learn how to use his frame. And
Speaker 2: again we saw that today with the physicality and the
Speaker 2: run reps, and today's only a first day.
Speaker 1: But what does that look.
Speaker 2: Like moving forward would be my question, and does he
Speaker 2: developed and then the guy can we talk about our
Speaker 2: hidden guests, let's do.
Speaker 3: It, let's do it, and how he fits in the commanders,
Speaker 3: how we could potentially get him.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about so we're talking about guys that
Speaker 2: are good, good value second round picks. Right, And to me,
Speaker 2: I had Christian Jones in this group when I did
Speaker 2: my ev ouse.
Speaker 1: So he's played at.
Speaker 2: Christian Jones from Texas six ' six three point fifteen
Speaker 2: kind of your perfect right tackle. Played a lot of
Speaker 2: football in college, very technically sound, and for me, with
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, I always bet on that technical acumen almost
Speaker 2: more than anything because it's like a martial art. Right,
Speaker 2: the more times I throw a punch, the more times
Speaker 2: I understand distance. He's had a lot of reps doing that.
Speaker 2: And today you saw that people tried to beat him
Speaker 2: with speed. He was able to find his angle and
Speaker 2: punch his hands. People try to beat him with power.
Speaker 2: He's able to set his anchor at a high level. Right,
Speaker 2: And again I'm talking about what's his name, Darius Robinson,
Speaker 2: who was absolutely assassinating people with his power. Rush Christian
Speaker 2: Jones gets up there, and Christian Jones is not a.
Speaker 1: Huge He's a big guy. He's a wide body guy.
Speaker 2: But he's not heavy, so you're like, how's he going
Speaker 2: to sink and absorb this contact? And he he ate
Speaker 2: like it was sin him ntol his crunch man like
Speaker 2: he was like, oh you good, I'm good. Let's do
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 4: Is that what they mean when they anchor?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Right, it's the ability like you'll see tons. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like your ability to sink your hips and leverage yourself
Speaker 2: below that bull rushing player. So a lot of guys
Speaker 2: have a really hard time with that, and I feel
Speaker 2: like Kingsley Suamatia has a hard time with that. He's
Speaker 2: just so damn big and heavy that he's able to
Speaker 2: kind of eat that up. But Christian what's his last name,
Speaker 2: Christian Jones does it with great technique, and again that
Speaker 2: just comes with reps.
Speaker 1: And so it's a first day.
Speaker 2: He might have a terrible day tomorrow. But that jumps
Speaker 2: out to you on film when you watch it because
Speaker 2: in college he's very technically sound. He understands the angle
Speaker 2: at a high level. Here, he understands the angle and
Speaker 2: technically had to sit that bull very well. And I
Speaker 2: think if you want a guy that's approximately plug and play,
Speaker 2: that's about as close as you're gonna get outside of
Speaker 2: the you know, the Guidans, the.
Speaker 1: Jordan, the Josh.
Speaker 2: Morgan's right, those guys that are like the fringe first
Speaker 2: round guys, because those guys will go early because the potential,
Speaker 2: the athletic potential. Christian Jones not the same athlete, not
Speaker 2: the same frame, but very technically sound and I think
Speaker 2: a guy that fits right in that window for the
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, depending on offensive scheme obviously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when watching today, we were sitting with our staff
Speaker 3: writer z act So who Lineman himself.
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, Freeman, people talking about him and.
Speaker 3: He was he was just he was pretty impressed. And
Speaker 3: the two of you were just all about Christian Jones day,
Speaker 3: very very excited for him.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the last rep, so last rep
Speaker 2: of the day was they kind of everyone had gone through,
Speaker 2: and so we talked about, you know how Darius Robinson
Speaker 2: had this really solid physical day. There was just this
Speaker 2: intimidation factor when he's on the field, and so he
Speaker 2: had gone down the line and Christian Jones had of
Speaker 2: got against them, and so he had done a great
Speaker 2: job against Miles Cole who's big and physical and twitchy
Speaker 2: but not the same animal. So they on the last
Speaker 2: rep of one on ones, they brought out, you know,
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson and Christian Jones and we're like, let's see this,
Speaker 2: and it was like you kind of could feel the
Speaker 2: electricity in the air. Big collision and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: and you could see Jones kind of set his anchor down.
Speaker 2: And I loved what Robinson did. He tried to transition
Speaker 2: the outside soulder right away, which is a great move,
Speaker 2: right you sit the guy down, you make him stop
Speaker 2: his feet the offensive tackle, and then you are moving forward.
Speaker 2: So you transition off and with a big power rusher
Speaker 2: like that, it's deadly. She should work every time. Jones
Speaker 2: felt it kicked one more time, got right back in
Speaker 2: front of him and the pocket was collapsing.
Speaker 1: But it's that's four or five.
Speaker 2: That's four seconds, and so that little move there, You're like,
Speaker 2: it gives me chills just thinking about it, right, because
Speaker 2: it's so hard to do that, especially with someone who
Speaker 2: was as dominant from a power standpoint as Darius Robinson won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could feel that everybody was excited for that
Speaker 3: one on one. Wide receiver one on ones were going
Speaker 3: on at the same time. People weren't watching that. They
Speaker 3: were watching this every year because these were the two
Speaker 3: guys that were clearly having the best day and finally
Speaker 3: getting to see the match up and it was it
Speaker 3: was a collision. Like you said, it was impressive.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like and it wasn't just us, like
Speaker 2: the guys in front of us stop watching one on one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had guys from the Chargers and the Vikings were.
Speaker 2: Right, they kind of migrated over and then everyone like
Speaker 2: it wasn't like us. But everyone's like, oh, look at that.
Speaker 4: Like you can hear it, Yeah, you could hear it.
Speaker 2: It was kind of one of those moments in the
Speaker 2: day where were like, oh, that's pretty exciting. And so
Speaker 2: hopefully he can continue that because he's gonna make himself
Speaker 2: a lot of money Christian Jones and Darius Robinson for
Speaker 2: that if they keep going that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Selby, I don't know if it's out yet
Speaker 3: by the time this podcast goes out, but he does
Speaker 3: a nice little write up evaluating some of the playoffs today.
Speaker 1: He is a good senior Bowl.
Speaker 3: He'll put that on Commanders dot Com and he talks
Speaker 3: about Christian Jones and like I said, as a former
Speaker 3: alignman himself. He's got, he's got, he's got some good
Speaker 3: insights to you guys. Make sure you check out Selby
Speaker 3: on Commanders dot Com and his right up.
Speaker 2: Selby because he played the position is very very hard
Speaker 2: on those guys. And I'd be remiss, I to be
Speaker 2: remiss if we didn't give a shout out to uh
Speaker 2: Javion Cohen from Miami number fifty four, another one of
Speaker 2: those guys like Christian Jones, who every time the bell
Speaker 2: was called right, he just answered it right. We talked
Speaker 2: about McKinley Jackson, We talked about Sweat, Devontre Davante Sweat,
Speaker 2: Davante Javan No, what's his name to Vandre Sweat, There
Speaker 2: we go, and how they were just kind of murdering
Speaker 2: everybody all day and he was a guy inside at
Speaker 2: guard and again maybe not the biggest need for the Commanders,
Speaker 2: but had another one of those days where he was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: you want to challenge me, let's go.
Speaker 1: Oh we're doing team run. I'm going to finish.
Speaker 2: And so it's I think it's cool that a guy
Speaker 2: that wasn't necessarily on my radar comes out and looks
Speaker 2: like maybe the best guard of the day.
Speaker 1: So that's always foe too.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, just wrapping up.
Speaker 3: I know you kind of did this real quick again,
Speaker 3: we're going to be back tomorrow, We're going to be
Speaker 3: back Thursday with podcasts recapping the days, and then we'll
Speaker 3: have a big one. So there's plenty of content coming up.
Speaker 3: But just real quick for the next two days. Again,
Speaker 3: you said at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Don't over react, to react the first day, don't.
Speaker 3: Do it all right, So who are guys that you
Speaker 3: want to keep your eye on, give me, give me
Speaker 3: three or four keep your eye on from a Washington
Speaker 3: perspective these next two days.
Speaker 2: So I would say obviously Christian Jones, he's earned that
Speaker 2: right today after today, he deserves that because like if
Speaker 2: he's going to be if we're going to pick him
Speaker 2: at thirty eight, like he's going to have another excellent
Speaker 2: two days, and I think he, but he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to have two more good days. Patrick Paul another guy.
Speaker 2: Can he figure it out over the next couple days.
Speaker 2: So those are two offensive linemen, right defensive line.
Speaker 1: Edge guys.
Speaker 2: We talked about Robinson, I think that self explanator, but
Speaker 2: kind of guy like Miles Cole, the Texas Tech defensive end.
Speaker 2: Can he show a development over these next couple of
Speaker 2: days and play to what his athletic traits seem to
Speaker 2: think they should.
Speaker 1: Play play at right?
Speaker 2: Braswell might sneak into the first round. But if he
Speaker 2: can show that consistent power day in and day out,
Speaker 2: I think that's exciting. James Williams, the linebacker from Miami.
Speaker 2: They converted him from safety to linebacker. He had an
Speaker 2: excellent tackle in the whole today, super physical off the
Speaker 2: transition like pop, Everyone's down, everyone cheers, everyone's really excited.
Speaker 2: Can he continue to handle the physicality of that position.
Speaker 2: And then obviously the three receivers I think we're going
Speaker 2: to be looking at our you know, Lagette, devontees Walker
Speaker 2: and Johnny Wilson. Can one of those guys show they
Speaker 2: have that elite eyes profile and the work ethic to
Speaker 2: say I and then Brendan Rice in terms of that
Speaker 2: big outside X receiver. So those are the guys that
Speaker 2: I kind of just they're still circled in my book.
Speaker 2: Can we does some of their success continue? Do they develop?
Speaker 2: All those receivers were talking about, they still need to develop.
Speaker 2: They still need to show me something. Except for Brendan Rice,
Speaker 2: it was great today, but you know, first day, but
Speaker 2: those kind of group of ten definitely guys I'm watching
Speaker 2: over the.
Speaker 1: Next couple of days.
Speaker 4: Dude, this is so much fun.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's not a fun
Speaker 1: and sunburn, Yeah, a lot of sunburn. That's I got
Speaker 1: to get some mallow, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a rookie move on my part too though.
Speaker 1: I got a nice little sunglass tailand right here.
Speaker 3: But yeah, super excited for what we're doing just with
Speaker 3: ticket to the Draft. Thanks see geek yep forgetting us out.
Speaker 3: You're the best seat in the house. The best way
Speaker 3: to get that is through Sea Geek. But we really
Speaker 3: do appreciate that logan. You're going to be going all
Speaker 3: the way through Senior Bowl, You're going to be at
Speaker 3: the Combine and we're going to do this at the
Speaker 3: Combine podcast every day talking about that all. We're taking
Speaker 3: you all the way up to when the Commanders are
Speaker 3: on the clock.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and then we're going.
Speaker 4: To evaluate afterwards.
Speaker 3: Right, So this is a big, big year for the
Speaker 3: Commanders in the draft. New head coach coming soon, Adam
Speaker 3: Peters in here. We're just we're super excited to be
Speaker 3: with the fans going all the way up through this
Speaker 3: and your expert analysis.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's we're getting expert, We're we're
Speaker 2: getting there, we're regressing towards expert each and every time
Speaker 2: we watch somebody. But it's a fun group and it's
Speaker 2: always fun coming here and just seeing guys have the opportunity.
Speaker 2: You know, I get all nostalgic thinking about it. It's
Speaker 2: just like this cool thing where guys are changing their
Speaker 2: lives each and every day out of practice. So hopefully
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Uh tomorrow I'm going to do
Speaker 3: a quick tease tomorrow Trevor Sikama from PFF we'll be
Speaker 3: on this podcast. Right We're going to interview him after
Speaker 3: the first team practice, but we're going to talk to
Speaker 3: him all commanders. Everything we're is going to be commanders focused,
Speaker 3: right about what he's seen in the Senior Bowl, some
Speaker 3: of these guys, these prospects, what they couldn't mean for
Speaker 3: us as an organization, and uh, you're gonna have a
Speaker 3: great chat with him because he gets really nerdy too.
Speaker 1: I hope so yeah, he does get really excited.
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Speaker 2: Well, guys, that'd be super helpful. Actually, yeah, what do
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Speaker 2: all right, Logan, all right, man, Yeah, another day until
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