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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft. I'm Logan Paulson.

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Speaker 2: We are down there at the Senior Bowl and we

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Speaker 2: are gonna give you everything Draft and Senior Bowl related.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Ted Walker, Lat two, lat to bow Nicks pendix.

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Speaker 2: We're giving you all the insight right out. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the special edition Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 2: with what are we calling you?

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Speaker 1: Jag Jason? Is ever calling you? Just? Yeahy Jason?

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Speaker 3: Normally producer Jason, but in the I'm offering no analysis here.

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Speaker 3: I'm not an expert at anything. I just produce this podcast.

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Speaker 3: But we want a sounding board for you, correct, So

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be me. So I'm here with you on

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Speaker 3: producing show. So I'm gonna ask you questions just so

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Speaker 3: I get a better understanding. And I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the people that listen to this mostly just guys gals,

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Speaker 3: so I'm gonna be that kind of proxy for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that a lot. That's great.

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Speaker 2: And so this is the Ticket to the Draft, yeah right.

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Speaker 2: And the Ticket to the Draft. It's presented by seat Geek,

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Speaker 2: So we are down in Mobile, Alabama. We're in a

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Speaker 2: hotel room right now doing this podcast. That's why there's

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Speaker 2: no Fred, no Santana, and we are going to give

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Speaker 2: you our insight into the Senior Bowl. And we watched

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Speaker 2: all practices today, both practice today, and it was a

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Speaker 2: gorgeous day down here Mobile. Start off a little bit chilly,

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Speaker 2: got a little hot as the day went on. I

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Speaker 2: got a little sunburn, you and I both did. But

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Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. We got to watch

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Speaker 2: a lot of football, and I thought we'd start high

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Speaker 2: level and just kind of say, first practice the day

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Speaker 2: was the National roster, so that's the roster with Michael

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Speaker 1: And that practice went.

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Speaker 2: I'd say, very very smoothly, right like, not only was

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Speaker 2: it smooth from a football standpoint, but just moving between drills,

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Speaker 2: the execution practice seemed very high. And when you compare

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Speaker 2: that to the American roster, which was the second practice afternoon,

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Speaker 2: there was like a lot of standing the round. I

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Speaker 2: talked to a couple of agents afterwards and they were like,

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Speaker 2: why was there that twenty five minute period in the

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Speaker 2: middle of practice where everyone was just standing around doing nothing?

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Speaker 2: So very very different. And then another thing that we

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Speaker 2: the big name quarterbacks. You got Michael Pennick junior, you

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Speaker 2: first round. Potentially, we'll see what happens with Michael Pennick

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Speaker 2: juniors in terms of his in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of his medical stuff.

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Speaker 2: Obviously got a lot there to clear his back, his knee,

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Speaker 2: a lot of college football. But guys, you know, like

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Speaker 2: right now, if Bonnicks comes out of this process really well,

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Speaker 2: probably going to be a tough fifteen pick.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Compare that to the second group, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, Joe Milton, Michael Pratt, Carter Bradley, who again

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Speaker 2: don't know, do you have any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think they did that?

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Speaker 3: Why do you think who put the roster together, put

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Speaker 2: Well, so what I was thought about that too, Like

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Speaker 3: You want to just behind the same line, throwing to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if we're trying to go apples to apples,

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Speaker 2: We got the same o' line, got the same skill

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Speaker 2: So like in the first group, for example, we got

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson had a great day. Jacob Cowing had some

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Speaker 1: Of wide receivers guys.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson. My favorite receiver in this group is xavierly

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Speaker 2: You look at those guys and they did not they

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Speaker 2: a great job being physical. Johnny Wilson's sixty six thirty

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Speaker 2: And I don't really know how to qualify because when

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Speaker 2: Can these quarterbacks find a rhythm, find a chemistry. There

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Speaker 2: does not throw the football, and I'm just like, why,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So that was something that was really really frustrating. But again,

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Speaker 2: I think if there's one group of skill players at

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Speaker 2: Like they're just everybody's good, Like like Jawan Jackson looks

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of any go ahead, So if

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Speaker 4: Go down the list, yeah, let's do that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if I'm just tuning in, yes, and I haven't done

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Speaker 3: This, Yes, who are these guys? Like, so you're mentioning

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Speaker 3: Johnny Wilson, let's just start there, Yeah, okay, very quickly,

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Speaker 3: how would you describe Johnny Wilson? What's his skill set,

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Speaker 3: what's his positives, what's his negatives? That's a great point

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Speaker 3: because you're saying like, oh, he burned. This guy is

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Speaker 3: a burner, but he's huge, Like, so tell us at.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So basically, Johnny Wilson's in this very unique scenario and

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Speaker 2: he's a guy. He's six ' six. I think you wait,

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Speaker 2: should he move to tight end? So with him, a

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Speaker 2: like he showed an ability to do that at a

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Speaker 2: relatively high level to day, but it wasn't actualized today

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Speaker 2: I think a guy that we need to talk about

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Speaker 2: And so that's the thing I'm going to keep an

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Speaker 4: So I love comps, You know this, because I always.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I do that is because as somebody

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Speaker 2: Right, you're, like I said, yeah, like a like a

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Speaker 2: He uses his long arms like the goat that he

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Speaker 2: I was like blown away by from that standpoint, is

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Speaker 2: Oh flower oe? How you say it? Look at it

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Speaker 1: And I just respect the hell of that.

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Speaker 3: So so let's do that real quick, all right. So

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Speaker 3: what I want you to do? Okay, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: On putch on the spot.

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Speaker 3: What I'm going to do is you're going to go

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Speaker 3: Here's how he could fit with the commanders.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like it right, so real quick, like.

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Speaker 4: One one sentence on each one of those or two sentences, like.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pick guys that I think we need

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Speaker 2: So for me, uh, Jacob Cowing from Arizona, small, undersized guy.

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Speaker 1: Kind of kind of like am and Ross Saint Brown,

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Speaker 1: I loved everything he did.

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Speaker 2: He's you know, we watched his film and I my

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Speaker 1: He's about six foot, he's a.

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Speaker 2: Little under two hundred pounds, but he is He's just

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Speaker 4: How would he fit one of the commanders?

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Speaker 2: And I think he gives you enough that he could

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Speaker 4: Is he too much like those two.

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Speaker 4: Is he just so talented that's like just put him

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Speaker 1: I really like him. I really like him.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a guy that like you just like and

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Speaker 2: He's excellent at it. He did vertical routrey today. I

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Speaker 2: He ran a stop today on cam Hart and cam

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Speaker 2: Hart is a corner for a Notre Dame. He's six

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Speaker 1: And I'm just a guy, just a guy, all right, right,

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: Now that being said, and again, I'm just a guy.

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Speaker 3: This is not an analysis. He didn't stand out me

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Speaker 2: They got everyone together and they had callouts. So they

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Speaker 2: He's six to two, he's a little under six to two,

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Speaker 2: He didn't get a lot of separation, but really high

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Speaker 2: I think Jakwan Jock Jackson excuse me as an inside

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Speaker 2: So I think what you're seeing here, there's a whole

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Speaker 4: So in this Fitzabilli.

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Speaker 2: So I think Xavier Leaguet is a guy you'd circle there,

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know this guy, you should definitely

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Speaker 2: Johan Donson. If Johan Dotson like lived in the weight

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Speaker 2: he's got this great nuance. He could be a true

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Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs, they have multiple different types of

435
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,120
Speaker 2: receivers that bring different skill sets and can These are

436
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 2: guys that bring different skill sets and I think that's

437
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,879
Speaker 2: why we've kind of highlighted them. Again, receiver not a

438
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 2: huge need for this team, but adding some depth there

439
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,240
Speaker 2: and just somebody who can come in and say I've

440
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 2: got an excellent fastball, or my curve ball is unbeatable,

441
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 2: or my jump ball abilities next level. Right, if Johnny

442
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 2: Wilson can show you that, or Devontes Walker if he

443
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,199
Speaker 2: can just say you can't cover me on a go,

444
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 2: I don't care what the score is. Those are the

445
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 2: types of qualities we're looking for for that outside guy.

446
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 2: Brendan Rice again, very physical guy on the outside. So

447
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 2: that's I think kind of a good way to look

448
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 2: at the receivers. And I think the other group we

449
00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 2: got to talk about is the offensive line.

450
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 1: What do you want to say? Offensive line?

451
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, let's go offensive line. I was going to

452
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 3: ask a quick question. The question being we mentioned the

453
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 3: quarterback play was you know, neither here nor there. We're

454
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 3: not going to overreact state one, like we said, and everybody's.

455
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,640
Speaker 4: New with each other.

456
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 1: They take good tight.

457
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 3: So how much of that second group would you say

458
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 3: was all right? Quarterback play may not have been there,

459
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 3: but these corners there is some good corner play there too.

460
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 3: That played into that because the what was that? The

461
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 3: who went second? That was the American roster went second. Yeah,

462
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 3: National roster ones No, no, no, American they went second.

463
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,719
Speaker 3: So they look like they had a better defense.

464
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: They just looked.

465
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 3: So let's talk about those corners. We're talking about wide receivers.

466
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 3: What are some of the corners, what'd you see from them?

467
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 3: And then we'll go to line.

468
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the corners were interesting in this group because,

469
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: like I thought, some guy like Andrew Phillips from Kentucky

470
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 2: stuck out to me as a guy that was very competitive,

471
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: but he's the guy that gets speaked by Johnny Wilson

472
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 2: on the deep ball.

473
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: You know.

474
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: I thought he did a great job like that kind

475
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: of clicking close ability, hyper aggressive, you know, kind of

476
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: a junkyard dog mentality at the cornerback position.

477
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: Thought he did a great job with that.

478
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 2: And then I think the thing that again sticks out

479
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: to me is the safety from Maryland from Miami. We

480
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: got to talk about him, Cameron Kitchens. I thought he

481
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 2: lost a route to Jakwan Jackson in the one on ones,

482
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: but he's his closing ability was so on point. Like

483
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: so basically for people who don't know, like in one

484
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 2: on ones, basically you play the defense like you've got

485
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: help middlefield safety help, right, And so when the receiver

486
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: runs across the formation, they're technically running to your help

487
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 2: or the help would be in the defense. So if

488
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: you win on a crossing route, it's kind of like

489
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 2: so if you went on a basic or like a

490
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: like I'm pushing to ten and I'm cutting in, that's.

491
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: A legitimate route. If I'm winning on a route where.

492
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm running like at an angle across the field, it's

493
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bastardization of the drill because

494
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: you're kind of running to where there should be somebody

495
00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: to play. And so on this rep with with camera Kitchens,

496
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: great click and close, closed the window nice and tight

497
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: on lad Maconkey, and the ball was completed. But I'm like,

498
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: that's a win that that's a win technically for that

499
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: football player, and that's something.

500
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: That you he pushed to the help which.

501
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 2: Isn't there because it's a one on one, you know.

502
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: So I think I think that's excellent. But I think

503
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: the the thing in the team period that stuck out

504
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: to me is just how much better that defensive line was. Obviously,

505
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: the corners did a great job. They were very competitive

506
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: at the catch point all day and I think that's

507
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: the thing is the quarterbacks in that second group, you know,

508
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 2: your Spencer Rattlers, your Joe Milton's, your your Pratts, all

509
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: those guys, they kind of gave the DB's opportunities to

510
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: make plays on the ball. And also the other thing

511
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: I will say is I don't know who the coaches

512
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: for the American team, but they were very okay with

513
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 2: a lot of defensive pass interference. And so I think

514
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: that's also something I want to see from the receivers

515
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: is how do you handle that kind of stuff?

516
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: You know?

517
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: So but yeah, So to me, it's the quarters are

518
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 2: going to get a lot of credit because they kind

519
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: of kept the receivers in check. But to me, it's

520
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: the it's the it's the defensive line, where for that

521
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: group specifically just looked incredibly incredibly dynamic, incredibly physical, Like

522
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: it was a noticeable difference between the American roster and

523
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: the national roster in terms of just physical size. I

524
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: mean you pointed out like right when they came on

525
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: the field, He's like, look at Sweat, look at all

526
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: these big.

527
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: Big Sweat is a large man.

528
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: He is a large man. Who's who's what would he say?

529
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: He's got a pretty good get off. Know what, how

530
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: do we characterize that? He's got a he can get

531
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: off for a little bit of time. He's quick, been short.

532
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 4: Bursts, he's very scary for two seconds.

533
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for two seconds there. He's got some good twitch

534
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: to him. And then so he was one piece and

535
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: he's and if you don't know who that is, he's

536
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: from Texas.

537
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: He's I think he's six ' four.

538
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: He's he didn't weigh in, which tells me he's probably

539
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: about four hundred pounds.

540
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he threes sixty four is what we had

541
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Speaker 1: him at.

542
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: Well, we had him at but then he was he

543
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: did all the other measurables here.

544
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: It's set weight.

545
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: Yes, so he's like, not yet, yeah, not yet.

546
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: And obviously defensive tackle McKinley Jackson from Texas A and

547
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: M six on three point thirty one I thought had

548
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: an excellent TATIONE. So think about those two guys. You

549
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: come out here for the Senior Bowl man, you're you're

550
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: excited to show off in front of scouts. You get

551
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: a guy who's close to four hundred pounds in sweat,

552
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: and you get McKinley, who is again three hundred and

553
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: thirty one pounds and he's six one. He's built like

554
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: a fire hydrant. There was a play where someone cut him.

555
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: He put his hand on the ground and his legs

556
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 2: just were under him immediately like because he was so

557
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: like his his proportions are such. So those are the

558
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: two d defensive tackles. Darius Robinson, number six from Missouri

559
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: is six five to ninety. He's your defensive end.

560
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 4: So we need to talk about defensive end.

561
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: Do you know the commanders, Yes, that's right, we need it.

562
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: So give us the defensive end here. Tell us who

563
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: these guys are, how they would fit with us, what

564
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: we're looking at from him. There are a lot of

565
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 3: good ones out there.

566
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: There are a lot of really fantastic ones, and I

567
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: think in the second group it was just a physical group.

568
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: But I want to say, we don't really know exactly

569
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: what we're looking for yet because we don't have the

570
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: head coach. But I'm looking for good football players, right,

571
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: and so we probably don't need defensive tackle. Maybe we

572
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: have a defensive tackle depth piece, right, but that'll probably

573
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: happen later. But for me, this guy Darius Robinson from

574
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: Missouri fits the bill because I think he can stand

575
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: up in a three four. He can play a five

576
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: technique if you want him to. He rushed inside today

577
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: during one on ones and killed some guards. He rushed

578
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: on the edge with great power, great runway. So I

579
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: like that flexibility on the defensive line.

580
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: Right.

581
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: He's big, he's physical, he's nasty, he finished hard.

582
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: Right.

583
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I think today he made himself some money. I thought

584
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: maybe he'd sneaking the day three and you kind of

585
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: fall into some you know, really nice. I think he

586
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: might be a top of Day two guy now, but

587
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: but off a one day because the thing about that

588
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: is it supports it's supported by his film. He plays

589
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: that way on film. So you bring him here, you say, oh,

590
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: is he going to be able to match up with

591
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: this level of competition, you know, the guidance of the world,

592
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: all these different guys, and he looked like one of

593
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: the better players on the field.

594
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: It is he remind you of give me that comp.

595
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: One down there, I mean lazy. So basically what he

596
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: reminds me of is he's he's two ninety six five

597
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: to ninety's like rocked up, so like he reminds me

598
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: of like a like a superhero, you know, but he

599
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: plays like a super villain if that makes sense.

600
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: So love it.

601
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

602
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: So he's like he's like i'd say, he plays kind

603
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: of like Montes Sweat if Montes Sweat was too ninety,

604
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, physical through your face. Like

605
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: I just enjoyed watching him play today a lot.

606
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: And uh, and I.

607
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Think he's very, very physically talented. But again, this guy's like, uh,

608
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: he's one of the guys. Chris Braswell from Alabama. I

609
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: thought did a great job today, Like he had a

610
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: rep versus Patrick Paul today. Patrick Paul is the biggest

611
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: man here at the event. He's six seven, he's three thirty,

612
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: he's got thirty six inch arms. He's from Houston. Everybody's

613
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: kind of circled him as their potential fast riser, a

614
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: guy that could push into the early second round. I

615
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: see a lot of technical deficiencies with his game. And

616
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Braswell is not a big man. You know, he played

617
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: stand up outside lambert backer at at Alabama. He's six

618
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: threes too. He's heavy weight, heavier than I thought. He's

619
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: two fifty seven, so a bigger guy than I thought.

620
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: But plays with great power. And so first rep you're

621
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: going against a mountain and he just walked him back

622
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: into the quarterback and so I say, like, that is

623
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: showing again, what's your superpower, what's your trait? You know,

624
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: we saw with Darius Robinson the ability to play outside

625
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: inside with great power and great explosive, with great, great effort.

626
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: And Chris braswell, you're a power rusher. Can you rush

627
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: pass rush with power and NFL style body? And that

628
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: was something that I thought he showed today, you know.

629
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: And then in the first group, you got a bunch

630
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: of guys who I thought so while there was a

631
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: lot of guys, and then we also got to mention

632
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: Miles Cole from Texas Tech. Big physical, long guy, very twitchy,

633
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: but again six five two eighty five thirty five inch arms,

634
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: kind of these big freaks. I don't know if they

635
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: did that on purpose. But the second group just had

636
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: these monstrous defensive players, especially on the defensive line that

637
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: we're able to compress pockets at a really high level

638
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: and made a challenging for the for the American roster

639
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: offense to be successful.

640
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: But think about the group.

641
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: In the morning, how they're much more like pass rush

642
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: specific You got a lot too, lots to a guy

643
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: that we've talked about a lot he is. I mean

644
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: watching him do bag drills, watching him pass rush. Dude,

645
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: he reminds me of Jared Allen in the sense I

646
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: played against Jared Allen.

647
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: There's certain pass rushes you.

648
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: Play against that don't have bones in their body, and

649
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: he doesn't have bones. Like you go to punch him

650
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: and he's just able to give at the right time,

651
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: duck at the right time, bend at the right time.

652
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: So is his comp like a waterfall. It's like it's

653
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: so smooth but powerful.

654
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's exactly right. And so Talisi Fuaga got

655
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: after him today. But don't let that one rep you're

656
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: going to see on Twitter take away from his day.

657
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: Like he is just to me, he's probably the best

658
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: defensive player in the draft potentially.

659
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: So where would he potentially go in the draft?

660
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

661
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: Give me like a range. Is he mid first round

662
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: or early first round or is it?

663
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll give you range.

664
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: So in my mock, he would be the he'd go

665
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: he'd go nine to whoever I had him going to.

666
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but let me explain. Yeah,

667
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: go ahead, So talent wise, film wise nine, Okay, he's excellent,

668
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: he might not test great, Like I think he'll test fine.

669
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll test exceptionally well. He also has

670
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: extreme extreme medical concerns, extreme medical concerns. He medically retired

671
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: from U DUB with a neck issue, was set out

672
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: of football for two years and then couldn't get cleared

673
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: by Cow because the medical issue was so significant, and

674
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: then the UCLA cleared him.

675
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: So he played the full year.

676
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: And he's fine from what I understand, But he will

677
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: get pushed down draft boards because of that, because a

678
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: lot of teams will have a fail grade on him,

679
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: like a red grade. It means they won't draft him.

680
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: So Commander is centric, Yes, right, number two overall pick,

681
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: you're not taking him there, not taking them there right,

682
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: assuming that where it's staying at number two, Yeah, chances

683
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: of us getting this guy pretty thin. We'd have to

684
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: move up for it, or we'd have to trade back

685
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: into because he's in that weird spot where like he's

686
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: not going to fall to the second round for us,

687
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: and we're too high to take a chance on somebody

688
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: that has that medical history.

689
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: That's what you're saying.

690
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I would say is, like you've got

691
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: Jared Verse from Florida State, he'll probably go ahead of him,

692
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: and then Dallas Turner from Alabama will probably go ahead

693
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: of him. So maybe he slips down into a spot where, hey,

694
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: at thirty five, we're really fortunate we have a top

695
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: ten talent who's here at thirty five. I personally think

696
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: a team will take a shot on him before then

697
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: because the film's so good. But again, you never know.

698
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: He is kind of in that no man's land between.

699
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a top ten pick. But let's say,

700
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: for example, the medical he doesn't test well, he's still

701
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: going to go in the first one.

702
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: We've had people with medical concerns drop that.

703
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Montesoat's a great example. Yea.

704
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's possible that if he falls far enough,

705
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: maybe we're trading up or trading that we don't. I

706
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: just want to preface this, we don't know anything about

707
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: what our organization's going to do. Direct all speculating, right,

708
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: but like that's what's fun to do with leading up

709
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: to their draft, is trying to guess what we could

710
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: do to get these top players that we're seeing here. Right, So, medical,

711
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: maybe he falls down, Maybe the commanders go, we really

712
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: need an edge.

713
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: Let's take it, let's take a chance. We move up.

714
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: So you're saying, like he's he's a really good player.

715
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: He's a really good player, good player, and he looks

716
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: it and he's here, he looks at.

717
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: Jared Allen's a great cop man.

718
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: That's yeah. So guy with no bones, So that's always good.

719
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: But again there's other guys that rush the passer well,

720
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: like Brendan McGregor from Michigan is a guy that reminds

721
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: me a lot of like Aiden Hutchinson.

722
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Like he's big, he's.

723
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Tall, he's like six ' five, he's like two seventy

724
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: stand up edge, had a great power move today on

725
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: the tackle. He is a guy that again is probably

726
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: going to be there when the commanders are picking right.

727
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: And then you've got a guy like Javon Solomon, who

728
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: is this really tiny, undersized stroutger. He's six foot, he's

729
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: two forty. He looks like he's two fifty. Excuse he

730
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: looks like James Harrison a little bit, but has a

731
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: lot of pass rush juice. So if you're looking for

732
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: a rotational guy that adds some pass rush juice, kind

733
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: of like like huff up in with the new York Jets.

734
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: He would be an interesting pick, I think, so they are,

735
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: there are pieces there that'll be there later. I think

736
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: another guy is Marshaun Keelan from Western Michigan six ' three,

737
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: two sixty eight, good power, good solid football player. So

738
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: there all are these guys. The problem with good solid

739
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: football players, at least them showing at the Senior Bowl,

740
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: is they're gonna go in the second round, so you're

741
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to use probably thirty five or thirty eight

742
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: on that player in terms of making sure you allocate

743
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: one of the guys we just talked about outside of

744
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: outside of latou Lat too. All those other guys I

745
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: mentioned are guys that are are viable there. Right Miles

746
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Cole I think is probably more of a third or

747
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: fourth round guy. But the way that Darius Robinson played today,

748
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent available on the board, I think as

749
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: a player, right, Marshall Keelan one hundred percent. Javon Solomon

750
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: later but obviously pass Rush Juice Brad McGregor feels like

751
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: a second maybe third round player.

752
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what you're talking about there.

753
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: So with five picks in the first three rounds, Yeah,

754
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: for Washington and you won.

755
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: An edge, right, assuming.

756
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: That that's what they want to go with here. Not

757
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: in the first round, right, and let's say we're talking

758
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: more second, third round. Yeah, who would be the guy's like, Hey,

759
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna just watch this guy. Yeah right, not we

760
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: should take him because we don't know yet.

761
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: I don't know based on what.

762
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: We seen' let's take a look at this guy. Could

763
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: be a good find in the late second, early.

764
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Third, late second, So I would say a late second,

765
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: early third, that's tough man. I think Javon Solomon he

766
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: caught my eye a little bit today, which I was

767
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: excited about. Again, not an every down player, but with

768
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: enough juice. So you say, hey, man in the right role,

769
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: in the right situation, in the right rotation, could be

770
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: a you know, seven to ten sac guy, which is incredible.

771
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: What about him stuck out that is incredible.

772
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just there's certain guys that have it as

773
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: pass rushers, Right, so when you watch a lot two

774
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: dudes got no bones, Like he looks amazing, right and

775
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: he gets but all pass rushers get got but his ability.

776
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: He had a rep on Morgan, who again is a

777
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: first round tackle from Arizona where he just Morgan goes

778
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: to punch him, he just dips his chops, the hand,

779
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: dips the shoulder, plants the foot, his shoulders at Morgan's hip,

780
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: and then he just works around the corner and probably

781
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: would have gotten a sack and it just looked easy

782
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: for him, right. So with Javon Solomon, you see some

783
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: of the same stuff. It's stylistically it's a little bit different.

784
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more kind of kind of these boundy,

785
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: explosive steps. But he's able to kind of set the

786
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: line of the tackle, adjust the line of the tackle,

787
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: and then work edges at a high level, you know,

788
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: with with good power and rip to finish, which again

789
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: some of those shorter pass rushers have the ability to do.

790
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: So I think he's an interesting one. A guy that

791
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: we didn't talk about. Where's his name on here, the

792
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: kid from Penn State.

793
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Isaac Isaac, I thought flashed something to me today. So again,

794
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: not a first round guy.

795
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Maybe in that top second, maybe he slides down a

796
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: little bit because he's a little bit stiff. But I

797
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: think he's a really good football player and he's got

798
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: some explosive qualities to them that make you say, hey,

799
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: so I came into this process at the Senior Bowl

800
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: and thinking if they don't get an edge in the

801
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: first round, they're going to be kind of in a

802
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: lot of trouble.

803
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: But I think we've just talked about.

804
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: Five, six, seven guys that are second and third round

805
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: players that add value and have some flexibility to play

806
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: different positions on the defensive line. So I think that's

807
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: how I would look at that group. But again that

808
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: the group specifically with the national roster, that big physical

809
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: or to excuse me, with the American roster, that big

810
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: physical group really stuck out today. They almost dominated all

811
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: of my vision today because they were just so physical

812
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: upfront against that offensive line. Again, Washington needs some offensive linements.

813
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: Maybe go maybe go there next? What do you think?

814
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

815
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, let's move to offensive line. I want our

816
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: listeners to know that we know linebacker is important. Safety

817
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: is important. We touched on corner a little bit. We're

818
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: gonna we're doing this the next few days and then

819
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: we're going to have another pod that's like a big

820
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: recap at the Senior Bowl and everything a big review.

821
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: So we'll touch on those positions, I promise. But for

822
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 3: the sake of I'm a brevity's let's do a line.

823
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay, And it's important to note just for the fans,

824
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: that these drills they favor defensive linemen and they favor.

825
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: Receivers, so they're easier to see those reps. Right.

826
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: It's hard for dbs to win the one on ones.

827
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: It's harder for offensive lineman to win and one on one.

828
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: So when the offensive line do win them and again

829
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, they get more one on one reps.

830
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Right.

831
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: They kind of like you were out there today, They

832
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: just rapid fire through them, one after another, the receivers

833
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: and the dbs. It takes them a long time, so

834
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: you don't get the volume. But we do have some

835
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: guys that we like and they we're excited about. It's

836
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: just it's harder to evaluate them in this setting like this.

837
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: To me, if if you're if you're a defensive lineman,

838
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, receiver, tight end, you know, offensive skill player.

839
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: This is for you defensively, it can be very challenging

840
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: to be successful here.

841
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: You said something to Fred on the last Command Center. Yeah,

842
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: not the podcast to show which everybody can check out

843
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: on YouTube. It's the one where you guys are at

844
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: the fire pit. If you want to find this conversation

845
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: looking at with Fred. But you said, like, the hardest

846
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: thing to evaluate is the DB's and Fred looked at

847
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: you all funny because Fred's a dB and he thought

848
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: you were taking a shot at him.

849
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: But you're not.

850
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: Because one of the things I'm trying to do is

851
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: producing this is I'm trying to just watch as much

852
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: film as I can, not because I know anything, but

853
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: because I want to have an idea of who you're

854
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: talking about, right, just so I can picture somebody in

855
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: my head.

856
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: And you're exactly right, because the.

857
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: Thing it's for me, it was highlights are the only

858
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: thing that really work, work because if the ball doesn't

859
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 3: go to them, that may be a win. But nobody

860
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: cuts those highlights for you. Nobody cuts, oh he didn't

861
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: target over here and the quarterback me and not thrown

862
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: over there because blanket coverage is great coverage. So who's

863
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: watching through games to see a if that's the read

864
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: be what type of coverage that is and see if

865
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 3: the corner was so locked on him the ball doesn't

866
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: go there and saying oh that's a great play. It's

867
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 3: the same sort of thing here to me, right, Like

868
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't the one on ones. Yes, but like you said,

869
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 3: I would have never have known that like that route.

870
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: In Yeah, well he's pushing the help.

871
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: So that guy caught the ball and it looks like,

872
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: oh he got the dB on that one on one,

873
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: but the DB's pushing the help. Like that's exactly the

874
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: right technique you want to see, right, and I wantn't

875
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: know that. So well, all of this to say is

876
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: that dB is a very deep conversation. Yeah, and it's

877
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: like it's just difficult for me to understand. So I'm

878
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: going to ask you a lot about that and we'll

879
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 3: do that in the next few days.

880
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: And again, it's it's hard to do dB because like

881
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: think about targets like target share, Like you go through

882
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: PFF metrics and you'll have a guy who's been targeted

883
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: over the course of a season. So in the NFL,

884
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: we're talking eighteen games, sometimes with the playoffs, it's more

885
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: than that. You're talking thousands of snaps and they'll have

886
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: twenty targets, thirty targets, forty targets. That's forty plays for

887
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: you to like evaluate because like they it's unlike an

888
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: offensive lineman or a running back, like they're getting the ball,

889
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: they're in the path they're in, They're in the thick

890
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: of it, right, and with defensive backs, And I've heard

891
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: this from scouts across every every team I've been on,

892
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: is because they just don't get the play volume. And

893
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: so here it's tough too, because they don't get the

894
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: play volume because of the rotations and because of how

895
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: the practices are structured. So we're gonna try and get

896
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: our best evaluation. Know, I talked about cam Heart's interception,

897
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: did a great job on that, but that's one play.

898
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: So how did he do for the rest of practice?

899
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Harder to discern?

900
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where we need Fred.

901
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just need Fred, need Fred, right, and for

902
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: cam Heart, that's a great example. I know we're getting sidetracked,

903
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: but that's what I do. I get sidetracked a LADYHD.

904
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Right.

905
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: So they were in cover three. Someone completes an out

906
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: on him. But am I mad at him for letting

907
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: the out get completed in cover three?

908
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: No?

909
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Like, that's the hook player's responsibility. So how do you

910
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: grade that. We're gonna work on it. We'll figure something out.

911
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: Let's talk about O line.

912
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: And there was a guy that really stood out, but

913
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: don't say his name. This is called a tease. We're

914
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: gonna talk about some alignment. But there was a guy

915
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: that like really shot out. We're going to talk about

916
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: him last. Okay, Okay, So go through these and then

917
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: we'll let you know who was like.

918
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: The guy really good. So let me see we are

919
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: with the Let's start with the American roster. Okay, So

920
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: the American roster, it was a bunch of guys that

921
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: I was really no, let's start with.

922
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: The national roster.

923
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Excuse me, gosh, I'm all over the place here, Jason.

924
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: So the first guy that I want to talk about

925
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: is King Lee Kingsley Sumataia and he's from BYU. A

926
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: little bit of a developmental guy, but a guy that

927
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: I thought, with his great physicality, did some really good

928
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: stuff today. Kind of bodied up defenders, got in front

929
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: of guys, handled the bull rush again, not overly technically

930
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: sound necessarily, but a guy that stuck out to me

931
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: from a physical presence type of standpoint.

932
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Right.

933
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: Then there's the big dog Talisi Fuaga, who everyone's going

934
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: to be talking about Oregon State. I have him, honestly

935
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: as a top ten pick. I have him as my

936
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: second tackle in the entire draft. Really good football player,

937
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: just kind of a weird build, got shorter arms, thirty

938
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: three inch arms, But love the physicality, loved the mindset.

939
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: I want to see a little bit more from him

940
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: as the week goes on in terms of that physicality

941
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: I saw at Oregon State. To me, it looks like

942
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: he's still trying to kind of figure stuff out, figure

943
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: out like what he's good at, figure out what he's

944
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: comfortable with in terms of the new offense that he's learning.

945
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: So that's something I'm going to keep an eye on.

946
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan.

947
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: Another guy is a guy that is everyone has very

948
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: high on their boards, but I think is very technically raw.

949
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I think he's a guy that has a little bit

950
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: of developing to do. But I thought he showed some

951
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: good development. So all the kind of rawness on his film,

952
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: I know he's been working with a personal a line coach.

953
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: Thought he looked a lot better today and hopefully he

954
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: looks better for the rest of the week. And then

955
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: a guy that absolutely dominated on the interior was Jackson Powers.

956
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: Johnson he's three hundred and twenty pounds, is that right?

957
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: Three hundred and twenty ish pounds and he plays center

958
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: and guard and basically one all of us one on

959
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: ones and looks very confident doing it. Hard to see

960
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: in the teamwork because he gets mixed in it. But

961
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: here at the at the Senia Bowl, if you win

962
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: one on ones and you're that dude, like, that's impressive,

963
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: and I think he just he really stuck out from

964
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: that standpoint, and a guy that I'm excited to watch

965
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: more of as the week goes on, because you know,

966
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: he's probably the number one center on a lot of

967
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: guys boards. But it's always fun to kind of see

968
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: those guys develop as the week.

969
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: As the week goes on. So that's the national roster.

970
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: Good good tackles, and you know those are kind of

971
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: honestly like probably the higher graded group. Maybe we'll see

972
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: Tyler g guy that I like a lot in the

973
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: second group. Converted tight end went to Oklahoma sixty seven,

974
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds. And you see the transition

975
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: of position here, right. You see a tremendous athlete. You

976
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: see a guy who moves exceptionally well. You see a

977
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: guy that scouts and coaches are going to just fall

978
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: in love with because he's so big and he's so

979
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: athletic but still learning some of the finer points of

980
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: the position. I thought he had some really competitive reps today.

981
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: We talked about the defensive line, how physical they were,

982
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I thought he had a couple reps

983
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: so they could have been better, but I thought he

984
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: had a couple of reps where he looked really physically

985
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: in control, which for a guy that's gonna potentially be

986
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: a first round pick, I think is pretty exciting. Del

987
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: Mar Glaize from Maryland is a guy that had a

988
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: very quiet day, but a very consistent day. I thought

989
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: he was very consistent with his pass sets. They did

990
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: like a one on one run drill where I thought

991
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: he was able to kind of create some good bend,

992
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: create some good movement. And then a guy that I

993
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: was lower on, Javon Foster out of Missouri, I thought,

994
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: again showed some of the issues that I had with

995
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: him today, but I thought was more competitive at this

996
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: level than I thought he would be. He's six ' five,

997
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: three hundred and ten pounds, thirty five inch arms, so

998
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: a guy that you look at the frame, you say, man,

999
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: everything's on the table for him.

1000
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: Very exciting.

1001
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: And then another guy, Patrick Paul I'm sure a lot

1002
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: of you guys have heard of him.

1003
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: He's from Houston.

1004
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: He's six seven, three hundred thirty pounds, thirty six hitch

1005
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: arms guy that I was not super stoked on and

1006
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: because of some technical issues I saw in his pass

1007
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: sets and stuff, and some of that stuff came out today.

1008
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: I thought in one on one is probably his first

1009
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: three or four to one on ones in pass protection.

1010
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Just couldn't quite get his bearings right. Braswell bullshed him

1011
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: the next d Ligneman bulls him, and he couldn't in college.

1012
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: He was so big.

1013
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: He would just basically open up his hands, let you

1014
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: run down his middle and he would just grab you.

1015
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: At this level, these guys are too explosive, they're too powerful.

1016
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: That's one where you say the frame is there, the

1017
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: physicality is there. Of he had probably the best one

1018
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: on one run blocking rep today. Fit his guy up

1019
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: and kept his feet moving like he wasn't there and

1020
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: literally in a one on one drill. I can't explain

1021
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: to your heart this says drove him five yards off

1022
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: the ball. It was an incredible rep. But that's that's

1023
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: also colored by these really bad misses. So he's a

1024
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: guy has it all physically over the next three days,

1025
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: can he figure it out and handle some of these

1026
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: stronger guys.

1027
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: So the Commander's offensive line as it currently.

1028
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: Is, Yes, you got a dog with cosmia garden dog, right,

1029
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: he's I think PFF.

1030
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: Had him rated is like if not the eye as

1031
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: one of the eyes guards.

1032
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Over the last eight weeks of this season. Is the

1033
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: highest graded guard in the NFL.

1034
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was playing against some good guys.

1035
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably looking for tackle, you would think, right, if

1036
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: you're gonna go O line, that's where you want.

1037
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: That's why I focus that on.

1038
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: So a lot of these guys play tackle in college,

1039
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: but they don't always translate.

1040
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 4: The tackle here in the NFL. They end up being guards.

1041
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: So if you want to tackle, it's the history shows

1042
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: that you have to. You have to get one pretty early.

1043
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: So again we're at number two. Yeah, probably not taking

1044
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: a tackle. So who here do you think of these

1045
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 3: guys that stood out? Are you like they could come

1046
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: and be a part of this offensive line with the commanders?

1047
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: Really help us out, Like is there any are they

1048
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: all depth pieces right that we're talking about right now? Like,

1049
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: give me the evaluation on how they would fit in

1050
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: on this team day one.

1051
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you know, obviously I mentioned Fuaga

1052
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be a first round guy, like not,

1053
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: probably is gonna be first after the second round, after

1054
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: the second overall pick. Right, then you've got Tyler Guidon,

1055
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: who I bet by the end of this week, if

1056
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: he develops the way people anticipate him developing with the

1057
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: higher level of competition, is going to be gone. Right,

1058
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: So that leaves a very different type of player, you know.

1059
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: It leaves like Kingsley Sue Mattia, who is very good

1060
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: but a little bit raw, and I think fans are

1061
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: going to freak out and be like, oh my gosh,

1062
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: we can't take a raw guy too. The NFL, this

1063
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: process is about projecting. So does this guy have the

1064
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: traits to get you there? And I think he does, right,

1065
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: I think he's got the traits. It's just about does

1066
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: he get with the right alliant coach and does he

1067
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: develop the way you want him to? Because I do

1068
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: think he definitely could do that, right. He's definitely big enough,

1069
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: he's definitely athletic enough. Technically, there are some issues there.

1070
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: Another developmental guy is Ethan Driscoll from Marshall. He's six.

1071
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: I think he's six eight. He's like three p thirty, big, long,

1072
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: tall guy, looks like a basketball player honestly figuring it

1073
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: out with this level of competition. Lost a rep in

1074
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: his one on one today, But I think there's enough

1075
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: movement skills that he could be like a Spencer Brown.

1076
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: And Spencer Brown has been the starting right tackle for

1077
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills for the last five years so or

1078
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: of the last four years. So there is that guy too.

1079
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: I think a guy that sticks out to me is

1080
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: a guy that we were saving. We'll save him for

1081
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: a second. But del Mar Glaize I think is pretty polished.

1082
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a good enough athlete. It just depends

1083
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: on how how motivated is to be great, Like that's

1084
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 2: his thing for.

1085
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: Me when I watch him.

1086
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: Javon Foster developmental the guy from Missouri again, Paul Patrick

1087
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: or Patrick Paull.

1088
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

1089
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: As a guy, you'd say, yes, physically, that's the guy

1090
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: we want, that's the right tackle of the future. But

1091
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: I think he needs to be with the right kind

1092
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: of a line coach. I think he needs an elite

1093
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: O line coach to get him there, and when he's there,

1094
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: his ceiling is so high, He's probably got one of

1095
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: the higher ceilings of this group.

1096
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 4: It's just what gives him that high ceiling.

1097
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: That's a great question. So I think, to me, it's

1098
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: the length. You just can't coach his frame. He's six seven,

1099
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: he's three thirty. He's got thirty six inch arm, which

1100
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: would have been the longest arms of the combine last year.

1101
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: And when with that length, you can be so disruptive

1102
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: to tackles, and I think you see that with Dwan

1103
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Jones last year. Dewan's Jones would just use his length

1104
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: disrupt the pass rusher's flow.

1105
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: He was on Cleveland by the way.

1106
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he played for Cleveland. Did such a great job

1107
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: of that and did a great job throughout the process

1108
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: of showing you that on film. It's not something that

1109
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: every person with long arms is good at, which is

1110
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: why I think that's a huge projection to be like,

1111
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: this guy is going to be good because of his frame.

1112
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: He needs to learn how to use his frame. And

1113
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: again we saw that today with the physicality and the

1114
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: run reps, and today's only a first day.

1115
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: But what does that look.

1116
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Like moving forward would be my question, and does he

1117
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: developed and then the guy can we talk about our

1118
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: hidden guests, let's do.

1119
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: It, let's do it, and how he fits in the commanders,

1120
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: how we could potentially get him.

1121
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: So we're talking about so we're talking about guys that

1122
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: are good, good value second round picks. Right, And to me,

1123
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: I had Christian Jones in this group when I did

1124
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: my ev ouse.

1125
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: So he's played at.

1126
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: Christian Jones from Texas six ' six three point fifteen

1127
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: kind of your perfect right tackle. Played a lot of

1128
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: football in college, very technically sound, and for me, with

1129
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, I always bet on that technical acumen almost

1130
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: more than anything because it's like a martial art. Right,

1131
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: the more times I throw a punch, the more times

1132
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: I understand distance. He's had a lot of reps doing that.

1133
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: And today you saw that people tried to beat him

1134
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: with speed. He was able to find his angle and

1135
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: punch his hands. People try to beat him with power.

1136
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: He's able to set his anchor at a high level. Right,

1137
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: And again I'm talking about what's his name, Darius Robinson,

1138
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: who was absolutely assassinating people with his power. Rush Christian

1139
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: Jones gets up there, and Christian Jones is not a.

1140
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Huge He's a big guy. He's a wide body guy.

1141
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: But he's not heavy, so you're like, how's he going

1142
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: to sink and absorb this contact? And he he ate

1143
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: like it was sin him ntol his crunch man like

1144
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: he was like, oh you good, I'm good. Let's do

1145
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: it again.

1146
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 4: Is that what they mean when they anchor?

1147
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: Yes?

1148
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: Right, it's the ability like you'll see tons. Yeah, it's

1149
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: like your ability to sink your hips and leverage yourself

1150
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: below that bull rushing player. So a lot of guys

1151
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: have a really hard time with that, and I feel

1152
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: like Kingsley Suamatia has a hard time with that. He's

1153
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: just so damn big and heavy that he's able to

1154
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: kind of eat that up. But Christian what's his last name,

1155
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: Christian Jones does it with great technique, and again that

1156
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: just comes with reps.

1157
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: And so it's a first day.

1158
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: He might have a terrible day tomorrow. But that jumps

1159
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: out to you on film when you watch it because

1160
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: in college he's very technically sound. He understands the angle

1161
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: at a high level. Here, he understands the angle and

1162
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: technically had to sit that bull very well. And I

1163
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: think if you want a guy that's approximately plug and play,

1164
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: that's about as close as you're gonna get outside of

1165
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: the you know, the Guidans, the.

1166
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Jordan, the Josh.

1167
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Morgan's right, those guys that are like the fringe first

1168
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: round guys, because those guys will go early because the potential,

1169
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: the athletic potential. Christian Jones not the same athlete, not

1170
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: the same frame, but very technically sound and I think

1171
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 2: a guy that fits right in that window for the

1172
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, depending on offensive scheme obviously.

1173
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, when watching today, we were sitting with our staff

1174
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: writer z act So who Lineman himself.

1175
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, Freeman, people talking about him and.

1176
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: He was he was just he was pretty impressed. And

1177
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: the two of you were just all about Christian Jones day,

1178
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: very very excited for him.

1179
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the last rep, so last rep

1180
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: of the day was they kind of everyone had gone through,

1181
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: and so we talked about, you know how Darius Robinson

1182
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: had this really solid physical day. There was just this

1183
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: intimidation factor when he's on the field, and so he

1184
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: had gone down the line and Christian Jones had of

1185
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: got against them, and so he had done a great

1186
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: job against Miles Cole who's big and physical and twitchy

1187
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: but not the same animal. So they on the last

1188
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: rep of one on ones, they brought out, you know,

1189
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson and Christian Jones and we're like, let's see this,

1190
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: and it was like you kind of could feel the

1191
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: electricity in the air. Big collision and you're like, oh,

1192
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: and you could see Jones kind of set his anchor down.

1193
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: And I loved what Robinson did. He tried to transition

1194
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: the outside soulder right away, which is a great move,

1195
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: right you sit the guy down, you make him stop

1196
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: his feet the offensive tackle, and then you are moving forward.

1197
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: So you transition off and with a big power rusher

1198
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: like that, it's deadly. She should work every time. Jones

1199
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: felt it kicked one more time, got right back in

1200
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: front of him and the pocket was collapsing.

1201
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: But it's that's four or five.

1202
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: That's four seconds, and so that little move there, You're like,

1203
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: it gives me chills just thinking about it, right, because

1204
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: it's so hard to do that, especially with someone who

1205
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: was as dominant from a power standpoint as Darius Robinson won.

1206
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could feel that everybody was excited for that

1207
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: one on one. Wide receiver one on ones were going

1208
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: on at the same time. People weren't watching that. They

1209
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: were watching this every year because these were the two

1210
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: guys that were clearly having the best day and finally

1211
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: getting to see the match up and it was it

1212
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: was a collision. Like you said, it was impressive.

1213
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like and it wasn't just us, like

1214
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: the guys in front of us stop watching one on one.

1215
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had guys from the Chargers and the Vikings were.

1216
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: Right, they kind of migrated over and then everyone like

1217
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: it wasn't like us. But everyone's like, oh, look at that.

1218
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: Like you can hear it, Yeah, you could hear it.

1219
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: It was kind of one of those moments in the

1220
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: day where were like, oh, that's pretty exciting. And so

1221
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: hopefully he can continue that because he's gonna make himself

1222
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: a lot of money Christian Jones and Darius Robinson for

1223
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: that if they keep going that way.

1224
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Selby, I don't know if it's out yet

1225
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: by the time this podcast goes out, but he does

1226
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: a nice little write up evaluating some of the playoffs today.

1227
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: He is a good senior Bowl.

1228
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: He'll put that on Commanders dot Com and he talks

1229
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 3: about Christian Jones and like I said, as a former

1230
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: alignman himself. He's got, he's got, he's got some good

1231
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: insights to you guys. Make sure you check out Selby

1232
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: on Commanders dot Com and his right up.

1233
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Selby because he played the position is very very hard

1234
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: on those guys. And I'd be remiss, I to be

1235
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: remiss if we didn't give a shout out to uh

1236
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: Javion Cohen from Miami number fifty four, another one of

1237
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: those guys like Christian Jones, who every time the bell

1238
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: was called right, he just answered it right. We talked

1239
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: about McKinley Jackson, We talked about Sweat, Devontre Davante Sweat,

1240
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: Davante Javan No, what's his name to Vandre Sweat, There

1241
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: we go, and how they were just kind of murdering

1242
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: everybody all day and he was a guy inside at

1243
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: guard and again maybe not the biggest need for the Commanders,

1244
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: but had another one of those days where he was like, Oh,

1245
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: you want to challenge me, let's go.

1246
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: Oh we're doing team run. I'm going to finish.

1247
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: And so it's I think it's cool that a guy

1248
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: that wasn't necessarily on my radar comes out and looks

1249
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: like maybe the best guard of the day.

1250
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: So that's always foe too.

1251
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely, just wrapping up.

1252
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: I know you kind of did this real quick again,

1253
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: we're going to be back tomorrow, We're going to be

1254
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: back Thursday with podcasts recapping the days, and then we'll

1255
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: have a big one. So there's plenty of content coming up.

1256
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: But just real quick for the next two days. Again,

1257
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 3: you said at the beginning.

1258
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: Don't over react, to react the first day, don't.

1259
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: Do it all right, So who are guys that you

1260
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: want to keep your eye on, give me, give me

1261
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: three or four keep your eye on from a Washington

1262
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: perspective these next two days.

1263
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: So I would say obviously Christian Jones, he's earned that

1264
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: right today after today, he deserves that because like if

1265
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: he's going to be if we're going to pick him

1266
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: at thirty eight, like he's going to have another excellent

1267
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: two days, and I think he, but he's gonna have

1268
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: to have two more good days. Patrick Paul another guy.

1269
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: Can he figure it out over the next couple days.

1270
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: So those are two offensive linemen, right defensive line.

1271
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Edge guys.

1272
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: We talked about Robinson, I think that self explanator, but

1273
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of guy like Miles Cole, the Texas Tech defensive end.

1274
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: Can he show a development over these next couple of

1275
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: days and play to what his athletic traits seem to

1276
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: think they should.

1277
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: Play play at right?

1278
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: Braswell might sneak into the first round. But if he

1279
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: can show that consistent power day in and day out,

1280
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: I think that's exciting. James Williams, the linebacker from Miami.

1281
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: They converted him from safety to linebacker. He had an

1282
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: excellent tackle in the whole today, super physical off the

1283
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: transition like pop, Everyone's down, everyone cheers, everyone's really excited.

1284
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: Can he continue to handle the physicality of that position.

1285
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously the three receivers I think we're going

1286
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: to be looking at our you know, Lagette, devontees Walker

1287
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: and Johnny Wilson. Can one of those guys show they

1288
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: have that elite eyes profile and the work ethic to

1289
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: say I and then Brendan Rice in terms of that

1290
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: big outside X receiver. So those are the guys that

1291
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: I kind of just they're still circled in my book.

1292
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: Can we does some of their success continue? Do they develop?

1293
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: All those receivers were talking about, they still need to develop.

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Speaker 2: They still need to show me something. Except for Brendan Rice,

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Speaker 2: it was great today, but you know, first day, but

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Speaker 2: those kind of group of ten definitely guys I'm watching

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Speaker 2: over the.

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Speaker 1: Next couple of days.

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Speaker 4: Dude, this is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's not a fun

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Speaker 1: and sunburn, Yeah, a lot of sunburn. That's I got

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Speaker 1: to get some mallow, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a rookie move on my part too though.

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Speaker 1: I got a nice little sunglass tailand right here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, super excited for what we're doing just with

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Speaker 3: ticket to the Draft. Thanks see geek yep forgetting us out.

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Speaker 3: You're the best seat in the house. The best way

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Speaker 3: to get that is through Sea Geek. But we really

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Speaker 3: do appreciate that logan. You're going to be going all

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Speaker 3: the way through Senior Bowl, You're going to be at

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Speaker 3: the Combine and we're going to do this at the

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Speaker 3: Combine podcast every day talking about that all. We're taking

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Speaker 3: you all the way up to when the Commanders are

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Speaker 3: on the clock.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and then we're going.

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Speaker 4: To evaluate afterwards.

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Speaker 3: Right, So this is a big, big year for the

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Speaker 3: Commanders in the draft. New head coach coming soon, Adam

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Speaker 3: Peters in here. We're just we're super excited to be

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Speaker 3: with the fans going all the way up through this

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Speaker 3: and your expert analysis.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's we're getting expert, We're we're

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Speaker 2: getting there, we're regressing towards expert each and every time

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Speaker 2: we watch somebody. But it's a fun group and it's

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Speaker 2: always fun coming here and just seeing guys have the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You know, I get all nostalgic thinking about it. It's

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Speaker 2: just like this cool thing where guys are changing their

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Speaker 2: lives each and every day out of practice. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: that continues and just really exciting. And you know, please

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Speaker 2: like and subscribe to this podcast where we get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Uh tomorrow I'm going to do

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Speaker 3: a quick tease tomorrow Trevor Sikama from PFF we'll be

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Speaker 3: on this podcast. Right We're going to interview him after

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Speaker 3: the first team practice, but we're going to talk to

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Speaker 3: him all commanders. Everything we're is going to be commanders focused,

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Speaker 3: right about what he's seen in the Senior Bowl, some

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Speaker 3: of these guys, these prospects, what they couldn't mean for

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Speaker 3: us as an organization, and uh, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: great chat with him because he gets really nerdy too.

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Speaker 1: I hope so yeah, he does get really excited.

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Speaker 3: So make sure you guys tune into this podcast. We'll

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Speaker 3: definitely we'll have Trevor Sikimo in there. Then we'll have

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Speaker 3: Day three a recap pod. That recap pod pod will

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Speaker 3: also go on YouTube, so make sure you subscribe to

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Speaker 3: our Commander's YouTube page. Hick the Like and subscribe here.

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Speaker 3: Leave comments, I'll read them. I'll ask Logan your questions.

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, that'd be super helpful. Actually, yeah, what do

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Speaker 2: you give him to Jason the comments? That's incredibly important,

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Speaker 2: all right, Logan, all right, man, Yeah, another day until

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Speaker 2: tomorrow