1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we managed 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: to escape a work trip to Las Vegas without blowing 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: it all on the slots. It's Thursday, February twentieth, and 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: on today's show, we'll be chatting with soccer analyst and 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: former US Women's National Team member Laurie Lindsay about all 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: things footy, which NWSL teams won and lost the off season, 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: how will Netflix handle the World Cup rights, and what 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: to watch for in the She Believes Cup, which kicks 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: off tonight in Houston. First up, it'll be Japan facing 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Australia at five pm Eastern, followed by the US taken 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: on Columbia at eight pm Eastern. We'll link to the 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: full She Believes Cup schedule and tune in info in 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the show notes. 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Also, Laurie and I talked about. 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: What the what is going on with Gotham, so I 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: wanted to play you an interesting clip from Lynn bian 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Doolo formerly Lynn Williams from the February fourth episode of 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: The Women's Game podcast, because she talks about her decision 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: to leave Gotham and sign with the Seattle Rain and 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: suggests that her departure and the departure of several other players. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't just about folks going elsewhere to find more playing time. 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: I think that when you have a mass exodus in 24 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: a club, it's just about being valued as a player, 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: being valued as a person, and wanting to feel valued. 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: And I think clearly you see people leaving for those reasons. 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Biandolo also reference players leaving in the middle of contracts. 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: You remember specifically and notably that Crystal Dunn depart of 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: the team just a year into a three year deal. 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Here's that clib I find it strange when players are 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: leaving that aren't. They didn't make it to free agency, 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: so for some reason, the contract was cut short. And 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: I think that that in a normal situation, you would 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: hope that you would hope it doesn't happen at all, 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: But if it were to happen, it would be like 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: one player or two players. But there's been one, two, three, four, five, 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: six seven. 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: We'll link to that episode of the Women's Game in 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: the show notes. Plenty of questions about Gotham still remain. 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Laura and I get into a few of them in 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: our conversation that's coming up. 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: After the break joining us. 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Now she's an NWSL, MLS and Euros analyst for CBS Sports, Apple, TV, 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Prime Video, Fox and ESPN. A former midfielder who made 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: thirty one appearances for the US national team, including at 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the twenty eleven World Cup, where they were runners up, 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: and one of only four players to have played in 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: all three US professional women's soccer leagues. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: And we're going to list them all. 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: The Washington Freedom in the WUSA, the Washington Freedom and 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Independence in the WPS, the Western New York 52 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: Flash in the WPSL Elite League, the Washington Spirit in 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: the NWSL, and Canberra United in the w League. In Australia, 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: in high school, she reffed fellow national team player Lauren 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Holidays indoor game. She's a million dollar winner in the 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: soccer tournament and she's imperare a parlaure espaniolo. It's laur 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: lindsay yon abla Espanol. 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Did I say it right? 59 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know what you said of it. 60 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: I tried to say, she's learning how to speak Spanish. 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: I think it sounded right. Well, Son, I'm a beginner 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: for like three years. 63 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: How's it going? 64 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: Say something? Yeah? 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: I'm great? Thanks for thanks for having me. I love 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: that Introhta. 67 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: There we go, speaking of the soccer tournament. I want 68 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: to start there, because are you back on the team 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: this year? 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm back on the team, but I have pulled 71 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: myself from being a player and now I am in 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 5: the front office essentially as a sporting director. So I'm 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 5: getting a team together along with Heather O'Reilly. But this 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: old lady does not need to be playing seventy seven anymore. 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 2: So do you get a cut still if you win? 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'll made sure I put that in the contract. 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: So okay, because so you're not then taking on Hope Solo, correct. 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: Even though my team will be taking on Hope Solo. 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: But yes, that was big news. 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: What's the reaction to Hope Solo entering a team there? 81 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a big news. I mean we found 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: out a little bit obviously. Heather Riley is the one 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: that put our team together a couple of years ago 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 5: when we were the only women's team in the men's 85 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: division and then last year was a women's division. But anyway, 86 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: she gets inside information and so she put in our 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: group chat. We've got mage competition going on, and so 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 5: we'll see, like it'll be fun. Like I'm just excited, 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: and we'll see what team and what players are on 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 5: Hope's hopes team. 91 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: Is she going to be a keeper still or is 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: she going to run around and try to score goals? 93 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: Some shit? 94 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 5: These are all a great question. 95 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: That would be wild. 96 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Because I remember watching I watched her documentary and she 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: started out and was playing in the field before she 98 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: became a keeper, So she probably has a lot of 99 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: years of pent up wanting to get out there and 100 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: take some people out and score some goals. 101 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: I feel like. 102 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: If you're a goalkeeper, regardless of your age, being a 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: keeper in this, I mean there's a lot of shots 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: that are coming your way. I mean it's wild, but 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 5: it is more suited. Like I'm not kidding. I played 106 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 5: for like a minute and I was like, get me off, 107 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: sub me out, arms are burning, am tasting blood. 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: This is not great. 109 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: So who would you want to see in the fold, 111 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: either on your team, joining or just who do you 112 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: think would excel in seventy seven? 113 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: Well, Carly Lloyd's going to be back on our team. 114 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: She was supposed to be on our team last year 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: but was pregnant so she couldn't play. I'll be excited 116 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: to see. I think the seventy seven game will suit her. 117 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: Who do we have coming back? Heather Riiley is always 118 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: always fit, she can run for days. Does suit her 119 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 5: as well, Allie Krieger. So really it's about and also 120 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 5: all I was gonna say, it's really about being fit 121 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 5: as much as possible. So one of the things that 122 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 5: we learned last year is the younger players, college players 123 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: that can run all day. Get them on your team 124 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: and get a ton of them. 125 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: Actually, so that is an adjustment. 126 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: Hopefully no other tscors against us or listening to this, 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: but that is one thing that we learned. Get some 128 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: young legs out on your team. 129 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: So there we go. 130 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: That brings me to my next question perfectly this she 131 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: believes cup roster speaking to young legs. Emma Hayes approach 132 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to roster building has very clearly been about looking to 133 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: the next level of talent, looking to the up and 134 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: comers instead of just relying on the phone set of 135 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: bending camp forever. 136 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: What do you make of this roster? 137 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Obviously some big names are off as they recover from 138 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: injury or deal with personal things like triple espresso. But 139 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: are there folks you're looking at and you're like, Oh, 140 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting or that's going to be exciting. 141 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that is the key that 142 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 5: you said, Like there's players out right Triple Espresso. We 143 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 5: all know them prior to the Olympics, but obviously lights 144 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: out during the Paris Olympics where they were dubbed that name. 145 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: So that's what's gonna happen. 146 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 5: Like the women's game is growing, there's more competitions, there's 147 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: more opportunities unfortunately for players to get injured, and more 148 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: time for some of these players just to take and 149 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: have rest because of the amount of games and competitions 150 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 5: they're playing. 151 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: So the one thing that Emma. 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: Hayes has really spoken about, particularly since after the Olympics 153 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 5: is expanding the player pool. Yes we have the NBSL, 154 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: Yes we have players playing in Europe, but there are 155 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 5: a ton of players that haven't been given the opportunity 156 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 5: yet to play at the international level. And it's very 157 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 5: different from playing pro to the international level. So it's 158 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 5: not a surprise that there's a lot of young players. 159 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 5: In my opinion, I love it and this she believes 160 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 5: tournament is going to be a great competition. The first 161 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: tournament since the Olympics that this group will play in 162 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: under Emma Hayes. So Giselle Thompson Alyssa Thompson the first 163 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: sister since the Muises Yeah or MEWI I think is 164 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: how people were. 165 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: Uisuie's even better. 166 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: So I'm excited to see Giselle and Alyssa uh continue 167 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: to flourish under Imma Hayes. Giselle and outside back complayed 168 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: either side. Alyssa Thompson obviously a Ford We saw her 169 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: in the World Cup a couple. 170 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: Of summers ago. 171 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: And then one of the other ones that I'm super 172 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: excited about were two actually from Kansas City Current and 173 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: the DBSL are Claire Hunting, a midfielder. She was seventeen 174 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: year old rookie last year who basically every game that 175 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: she was available for was starting playing every I think 176 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: exceptional player should and I believe will have a long 177 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: career with a women's actional team. And then also Michelle 178 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: Cooper was excellent last year, really started to come into 179 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: her own. I saw her play and just take over 180 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: games when she was at Duke, left school early and 181 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: then joined the NBSL. So those are a couple of 182 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: players that young players that are gonna get opportunities, and 183 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: I'm excited about and I love this roster and I 184 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: like the toposition. 185 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: There's two I want to ask you about, Kat maccario 186 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: and Lily Johannes, players who have ever been young or injured. 187 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Do you see logjams at certain positions where if some 188 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: of this up and coming younger talent really needs a 189 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: place to play, we might see some names we're not 190 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: used to getting shoved out. 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: I think that's. 192 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: Always the case with our USU Mesash team, and that's 193 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: what has driven this this team forward and why it's 194 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: been so competitive all along is because it's a top 195 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: one percent and everybody's fighting. It's about showcasing everybody's excellent, right, 196 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 5: and so it's about showcasing the little details of your game. 197 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: So yes, I think that is always a question mark. 198 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: And I think it's about putting the best group together, 199 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 5: and so how can you showcase your skill that suits 200 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 5: a variety of starting elevens or that's also so hard. 201 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: You can literally be technically the best or the most effective, 202 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: but if you're not as good with the preferred forwards 203 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: or even the folks that are available or the style 204 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: that you're in. 205 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's what I love those two that you mentioned, 206 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: because Captain Carlo has a good relationship, a longer relationship 207 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 5: with the Mahyes from their time at Chelsea. And then 208 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: obviously Lily Johannes is one of the ones I should 209 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: have actually just mentioned because we've seen small glimpses of her. 210 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: She had to choose right between Netherlands and the US. 211 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: Chose the US. 212 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: So this will be a fun tournament to be able to. 213 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, see, are you going to be at any of 214 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the games? 215 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 5: I am not. MLS starts this coming weekend, so I 216 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: will be in full go with that, and then shortly 217 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: after the INDIBSL, so I'm going to. 218 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Be in Arizona, so I'm gonna head to Glendale. But 219 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: nobody I know it's going. I'm like, this is the 220 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: game everyone's skipping the one. 221 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 5: I have to be at. 222 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk at NWSL. We are somehow nearing the season, 223 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: which feels insane. 224 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, did we even get an office? 225 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: And by we, I mean of course US media people 226 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that are working much harder than the players who really 227 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: didn't get it off season. 228 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: Which team do you think so far had the best 229 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: off season. 230 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. I mean, I'm liking some 231 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: of the movement that we've seen in Utah. With the 232 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: second half of the season, they really started to come 233 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: along and forge an identity. So they're bringing in some 234 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 5: new pieces. But really it's more for me just about 235 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: how some of these teams, Orlando, Washington, Kansas City to 236 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: name the three the top three essentially that I'm most 237 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 5: curious about, just can they continue being a successful which 238 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 5: is making tweaks. One of the things that Kansas City, 239 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: I think they'll have a bit of a chip on 240 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: their shoulder. I named a few of their players, but 241 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 5: they change up a little bit of their roster, bringing 242 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 5: in some younger players. But they felt and Black when 243 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: and Naski, their head coach, really spoke about you know, 244 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: they made some changes during the season, so there wasn't 245 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: a ton of cohesion even late in the year, and 246 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 5: so now with a preseason under their belt, they feel 247 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: even more comfortable together. I think is a big question Orlando, 248 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 5: can they repeat what they did by making a few tweaks. 249 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 5: They brought in a center back who played for Wake Force, 250 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: who I'm really excited about, so that will help for 251 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 5: them defensively. But yeah, I'm just like curious as some 252 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 5: of these teams that have been successful will continue, right 253 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: And also San Diego is another one. They've lost a 254 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 5: lot of pieces, but they're bringing some other players in. 255 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, and a lot of folks talking about the 256 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Houston Dash mainly because this is a team that unfortunately 257 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: has been not relevant, not competing, and people have liked 258 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: some of the moves they've made this offseason. 259 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: Well, Anne Chickley's good friend of mine, we played together 260 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: at Virginia. Coming over from Angel City in the front office, 261 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 5: I think she really with some years under her belt, 262 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: understanding of the league, even more new CBA, she'll help 263 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: really kind of invigorate that organization, a new coach, a 264 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: style of play. Then you get some players from Gotham 265 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: in particular that have made their way there, so I 266 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: think you start to get I felt like the big 267 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: thing with Houston Dash is one identity and how they 268 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 5: wanted to play, and then they would have some older 269 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 5: players and then some younger players. 270 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: It was really difficult for them to kind of mesh 271 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: the two. 272 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 5: And so now this offseason, I do feel like they've 273 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 5: brought in some players that you have the experience or 274 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 5: on the cusp of the national team or now getting time. Yes, 275 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: me and Ryan one of those players getting time with 276 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: the national team. So it's going to be interesting to 277 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 5: see how quickly they can turn things around. But they 278 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 5: were on the verge of it last year, so I 279 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 5: feel like it's a springboard now, all. 280 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: Right, which team have the worst offseason? 281 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: Oh goodness, let me think here. 282 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of teams that we haven't heard 283 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 5: much from, so I think that's what's going to be interesting. 284 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I will highlight Gotham not in terms of 285 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: like a terrible offseason, because they've brought a lot of 286 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 5: players in, but they've also lost a lot of those players. 287 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: So that's going to be a question because this off 288 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: season hasn't been long to the point that you made 289 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 5: a bit ago, and so can they regroup, can they 290 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 5: understand and bring these players along quickly? And what one 291 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 5: colors Amrose, their head coach, is trying to do. But 292 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: to have that much change I think is always interesting 293 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: in a team that's had quite a bit successful as well. 294 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: And it was such a quick it was like, okay, 295 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: so they were a joke of a franchise at one point. 296 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Then they get new leadership, they turn things around, they 297 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: win it all. We're all praising them for the turnaround 298 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and how they're an example of what real investment in 299 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: leadership looks like. 300 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: And then within a. 301 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Year we're talking about why the players are leaving cryptic 302 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: messages on their social media when they decide to depart, 303 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: What the hell happened? 304 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: That's I mean, your guess is as good as mine. 305 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the thing, and you know, 306 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: I think it's overall too. There was a lot of questions, 307 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: like I love like how they brought in Crystal Dunn, 308 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: they brought in Emily's sonat Kelly O'Hare, Right, you had 309 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: all these big name players that were coming over and uh. 310 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: And the question was they're going to be like a 311 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: super team. 312 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 5: But that also requires that you really bring all of 313 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 5: those players along, everybody believes in the mission of what 314 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 5: you're doing. And you add in disruption of the Olympics, right, 315 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 5: players being gone, all of these different things, and listen, 316 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 5: they're not the only team. 317 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: That had to deal with that. But I think that 318 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: is a tough task. 319 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 5: When you have a super team, It's like, can you 320 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 5: get everybody on board, and I think that is a 321 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: that is a really big challenge. They were still very 322 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: successful last year, lost in the semi finals against Washington. 323 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: But I think one of the things that we're seeing, 324 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: and this might be something we discussed as well, is that, listen, 325 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: the game has grown right, and there's so much more 326 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: choice for these players. So even if you're excited about 327 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: what's happening, you feel like there's a better opportunity somewhere else. 328 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: Players have that opportunity now, and so they might just 329 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: choose that because that's what they choose, and that's what's 330 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: best for their career. 331 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Money to be made, minutes to be had, all of that. Yeah, 332 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, when I think about worst best offseason, I'm 333 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: mostly thinking about player acquisition and setting themselves up for 334 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: what's on the field. But there's also the other side 335 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: of things, and you look at both Utah and San 336 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Diego embroiled in criticism from former staffers, former players. It 337 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: feels like we always talk about those things on two 338 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: separate tracks, almost as if they don't ever intersect. But 339 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: I think we know that teams can, of course, and 340 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: many have been successful in spite of toxicity at the 341 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: organization or other issues. But that doesn't mean that that's 342 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: always the case. Do you feel like San Diego, who 343 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: got up to such a hot start, then there was 344 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: weirdness around, you know, the firing of a super successful coach, 345 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: weirdness around front office folks who have since left. Is 346 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: that affecting their outcomes on the field as well? Same 347 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: with Utah is the fact that players are talking about dissatisfaction. 348 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: There something we need to start talking about in relation 349 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: to the soccer. 350 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean this, you know, I think that 351 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: one thing you always have to keep in mind and 352 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: you would know this too, But these are humans, right, 353 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: and so you can only take so much over a 354 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: course of a season a career, right. I mean we 355 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 5: know all these things about what's surrounded women's ocular particular 356 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: and the Sally HS Report and everything, and it almost 357 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 5: feels like in a lot of ways the NBSL is 358 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: what three or four years old. But with San Diego 359 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: in particular, they had Casey Stony as a coach. Then 360 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: you have a couple interm coaches ending with Lynnon Donovan. 361 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: You have Alex Morgan retiring, play Abby Dola, kemperg trades 362 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: get traded to BFC, so you have a lot of 363 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 5: movement within players as well that were originally big leaders 364 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 5: on the team, and so yeah, and then again you 365 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: add in the Olympics and disruption of that, and then 366 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: start and stop of a season, the. 367 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Jill Ellis departure and all that stuff. 368 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: Exactly, and so one hundred like by the end of 369 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: the season. I remember calling a game against they played 370 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 5: at Kansas City, and it was towards the end of 371 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: the season, and that team just looked emotionally exhausted and 372 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: it wasn't a surprise because of everything. 373 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: These are humans, right, Yeah, it's interesting. 374 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I remember during my brief tenure with the Red Stars, 375 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: it was almost like their continued success in the face 376 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: of all the bullshit kept being held up as a 377 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: reason where why it was not a necessary immediate fix, 378 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: which was so frustrating the idea that they were succeeding 379 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: and so let's not rock the boat, even though were 380 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: you to have brought in a different coach and handled 381 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: things much earlier, maybe they would have been winning all 382 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: those years instead of just making it to the playoffs 383 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: or making it to the finals. And I'm glad that 384 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: this is all coming to a head and being faced 385 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: head on, and that the league is going to be 386 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: really held accountable with a lot of the rulings from 387 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: those attorneys general and that payout. But yeah, I mean 388 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: we still have some teams that we need to talk about, 389 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: that we need to address why that stuff is still lingering. 390 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of the coaching turnover in the league? 391 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: What an incredible number of coaches in and out in 392 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: just one season? Is that a sign? What is that 393 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: a sign of? Because I mean, you could certainly spin 394 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: it as a positive that people are demanding the best, 395 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: but why aren't they finding the best the first time 396 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: through them? Yeah? 397 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 5: I mean that's actually a really good question. I think 398 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: it is a league that is demanding as well. I 399 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: Mean one of the things that we talk a lot 400 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: about within the NBSL is the parody and so that 401 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 5: means every single game, obviously from top to bottom, is 402 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 5: going to be is going to be a dogfight, and 403 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 5: you have to. 404 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 4: Find ways to. 405 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 5: Be able to beat the next team, right that has 406 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: similar qualities potentially, but also with the travel and all 407 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 5: these different things, So I think one is demanding and 408 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 5: then also too, I think and rightfully so all these 409 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 5: things intermixing that we're talking about is there are players 410 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: demand excellence as well. Right, that was a thing that 411 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: for a lot of years, players didn't have a voice. 412 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: And one of the reasons why a lot of things 413 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 5: weren't dealt with immediately because players didn't feel like they 414 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: had an ability to bring it to or if they did, 415 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 5: it was ignored and shoved under or however you want 416 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 5: to say it, right, And so I think, you know, 417 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 5: for a long time, you're bringing in coaches that maybe 418 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: didn't fit the mold or the organization didn't have an 419 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 5: idea of how they wanted to play, so you're hiring 420 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: a coach that didn't also fit the way the player 421 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: or vice versa. So I think those things, and again 422 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: it go back to what I was saying in terms 423 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 5: of the league only being three to four years old, 424 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: is because there's been a lot of change. Right, we 425 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: don't have any more drafts. We have for the first time, 426 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: we have a CBA that everybody's a free agent, and 427 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: so that really requires identities and understanding of an entire 428 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: organization on what you wanted to look like, from the 429 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: front office to the players that you're bringing in. And 430 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: I think there had been so much upheaval, and then 431 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 5: also just not knowing what that looked like because you're 432 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: also playing catch up quite a bit. So I think 433 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: that also you saw that on the coaching side as well. 434 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: A lot of players, not a lot, some big name 435 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: games going to Europe. What do you make of it? 436 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Are you worried that that's going to start to become 437 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: more of a trend. 438 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: No, I'm excited. 439 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 5: I think it's exciting in a lot of ways because 440 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: these players again do have choice. You have a Neil mcgerma, 441 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: the biggest transfer foreever, generational talent amazing. I love that 442 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: for her, Excited for her to be going to Chelsea, 443 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: she has that option as a young player. Crystal Dunn 444 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: going to PSG not one of the younger players, but 445 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 5: still has so much to give great Paris Olympics husbands French. 446 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: So the PSG move at this time seems like it 447 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 5: makes the most sense for her right in terms of 448 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 5: getting minutes. Took time off personally after the Olympics, and 449 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: so I think what you're seeing is what we've all 450 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 5: thought and know where this game could go. It just 451 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 5: wasn't taken seriously or the money and the business aspect 452 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: of it wasn't taken seriously. Now it is and so 453 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: it's exactly what you see on the men's side, where 454 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 5: there's player movement all the time. And I think most 455 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 5: importantly too, we now have Emma he as a coach 456 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: who still resides in England. She has a pulse on 457 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: all the WSL, in particular obviously Chelsea former coach. So 458 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: you have that and you also have a perfect timing 459 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 5: whether or not players are going to be coming back 460 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: and forth. But it's a perfect time before the next 461 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: World Cup Champions League is a huge drawl over there. 462 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: I understand why players want to go, but I also 463 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 5: think Tim washewinga Barbara Banda. 464 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: We have so many stars and. 465 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 5: It's not just American stars and europe stars anymore. There 466 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 5: are so there's so much I say, untapped talent, but 467 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 5: it's just because we don't know those names. 468 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Or from countries that don't have the same investment, and 469 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: once you drop those players into a league that does 470 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: have the right resources exactly which you brought me to 471 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: my next question, which was about Tim Wa and Barbara 472 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and Rachel Kundananji in these fresh faces from other countries 473 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that Bleue Open NWSL game last season. 474 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 2: Is there a next name we'll all know by the 475 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: end of this year? 476 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 5: Ooh, good question? Is it Guzman who just signed with Utah? 477 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: You have Lacy Santos who only played half the season 478 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: last year for the Washington Spirit, another Colombian player that 479 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 5: will play against the US on Thursday as well. 480 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: So the Gotham who also signed a Oh yeah, Gabby Portillo. 481 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So there. I mean, there's so many 482 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 5: exciting players. But I think also we just seeing Barbara 483 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: Banda shawinga tap the. 484 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: Another step forward. 485 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, when they and you you heard from Temo 486 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: when she resigned that it felt like home yeh. And 487 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: then I mean she didn't seem to need much transition time. 488 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: But now that she's got some more and she feels 489 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: more at home. Look out, jeez, we got to take 490 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: a quick break more with Lourie after this. 491 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: What's going on in Boston? Have you heard anything? 492 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: I have not? 493 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: Do they still have a too many balls problem? 494 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: Fix it? 495 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: I'm sure. 496 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: I don't even think Boston Nation. 497 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 5: I don't even like saying it, but I don't even 498 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: know if that's going to be their name. 499 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like. 500 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: Mighty quiet over there. 501 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: They are mighty quiet, and maybe they feel lucky about 502 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: that since Denver has taken over a lot of the commentary. 503 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: So yeah, that wasn't the most successful to say the least. 504 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 5: But I do believe that is going to be a 505 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: good market. They have been a very successful market previous 506 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: leagues for US. I think we'll see that again. But 507 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: I laugh because there are some things that need to 508 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: be sorted out. 509 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: Honestly, good news Boston. She believes in you, in you. 510 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: We'll see if they can re emerge. 511 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: They tentatively put out a statement that felt like they 512 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: were going to re emerge for something new, but I 513 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: think the statement was just to tell people were putting 514 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: our heads down, getting back to work, and when we 515 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: come back. 516 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: Hopefully things will be better. Radio they've just's been gone 517 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: for a while. 518 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Bold prediction for this NWSL season. 519 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, this is going to be a bold prediction. 520 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 5: But I am very curious about what the Seattle Rain 521 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: is going to do. I think, you know, big fan 522 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 5: of Laura Harvey, their head coach there. To say the least, 523 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: they were incredibly unhappy with how this past season went 524 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: from being in the final the previous year to basically 525 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: bottom of the league this year, this past season. But 526 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 5: they've made some they've made some moves, and just being 527 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: Laura Harvey, being one of the veteran of the most 528 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 5: veteran coaches in the league, will have taken that very 529 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: seriously into heart. And so I'm curious to see because 530 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: we haven't even mentioned them in this conversation, but I'll 531 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: be excited to see what they do. And then also 532 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: Kansas City, because I do think Bia is going to 533 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: be back. She's a Brazilian forward. She had some injuries 534 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: last year. Her and Tim Oshawinga. I mean, I just 535 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 5: they've added some pieces, some young pieces, and I think 536 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: they'll have a chip on their shoulder. 537 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. I have two quick questions about the 538 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: broadcast side. Yaws Well, is a really interesting deal with 539 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: rights packages across multiple networks. 540 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: What do you think is working as a result of that, 541 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: and maybe what is. 542 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: It Well, I think on the simplest thing that's as 543 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: challenging is everything used to be under one umbrella, and 544 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 5: so it's easy for fans. 545 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: And just one camera, right. 546 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 6: Exactly, and so now we've expanded that that comes you know, 547 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 6: some trials and tribulations on like, okay, where do we 548 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: find where do we find these games? 549 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 5: Easier before? But I think that was also for the 550 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: fan that already knew that they wanted to watch, and 551 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: so I think the exciting thing is you have Prime Video, 552 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 5: have CBS, you have eye On, you have ESPN. Those 553 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: are the four main partnerships, and then you have all 554 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 5: the other games and are indibissel plus, which is a 555 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 5: stream streaming platform to be able to get all the 556 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: other games, but. 557 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: More eyeballs, more eyeballs to. 558 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 5: Be able to to find the games, be excited about 559 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 5: the games, and prime time hours the championship huge numbers 560 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 5: back in November in Kansas City, Orlando versus Washington, So 561 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: more eyeballs, more excitement around the game. I will say 562 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 5: we did just have a broadcast seminar last week that 563 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: spoke about this a little bit. Is like, for instance, 564 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 5: I'll use Ion. They have a lead up in terms 565 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: of a studio show, and then they go right into 566 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: their games and they have a lot of excitement at 567 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: the beginning because they can build up that first game. 568 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 5: But they have a double header every Saturday, and their 569 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: challenge is how do we keep that viewership for that 570 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 5: late game that comes on at like ten PM for 571 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 5: the East Coast. So that those, I would say, are 572 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 5: some of the small challenges, but good problems to have. 573 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: Because now it's the second year for this, you know 574 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: that the Prime Video games are going to be on 575 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: Friday night every single week of the season. You have 576 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 5: the two double headers Saturday night for ION and then 577 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 5: CBS and ESPN or sprinkled throughout. I think one of 578 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: the things, the last one I'll make is there is 579 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 5: a real push from the league to make that and 580 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 5: streamline that as much as possible for the fan to 581 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 5: be like, yep, these are where the games are not 582 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: just a social media posts, but like really trying to 583 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: amplify that for new viewers. 584 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: Is it hard for you? 585 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: Are there distinct stylistic differences or presentation choices that differ 586 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: across the networks that you have to be a part 587 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: of in your presentation since you work at so many. 588 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: Well only two for the NDOBSL, which is Amazon and CBS, 589 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: And I would say just the differences. Because Amazon Prime 590 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 5: Video is a streaming platform, we have a little bit 591 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 5: more leeway time, so are open the beginning of the game. 592 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 5: We have a lot more time to work with the 593 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 5: setup the game, do interviews, where with CBS we have 594 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 5: a studio show attacking third we'll be in the thirty 595 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: minutes prior to that. So that helps a ton, because 596 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 5: before we're really contained to essentially a two hour window. 597 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 5: So you're like on air here we are, okay, the 598 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: teams the game is. 599 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: Socker go exactly. 600 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's it's always interesting to me 601 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how much a league wants there 602 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: to be consistency across broadcast, but then how much those 603 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: broadcast partners want to be their own, unique selves and 604 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: their own presentation, Which brings me to my final discussion topic, 605 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: Netflix earning the rights to the next two Women's World Cups. 606 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: They are both positives and negatives to this. Are you 607 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: enthusiastic and optimistic about what they'll. 608 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: Do with this hugely? I think that's awesome. 609 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 5: I think one just in general, is that they've FIFA 610 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: separated the men's and. 611 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: Women's right, massive and long overdue right. 612 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 5: Exactly, and so that alone you just already realize, like, Okay, 613 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: this is worth it. And I think one of the 614 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: things that we've seen with Netflix is they've they're already dabbling. 615 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 5: They're already like more than dabbling actually in terms of live, 616 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 5: live sporting events. 617 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: So by the time. 618 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: Some success and some right buffering. 619 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: Wheel, yeah exactly exactly. 620 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're shying away from that, they 621 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: would realize that that is the case, right, But I 622 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: think to highlight that, they're like, Okay, listen, we we're 623 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 5: going to get these kinks out in the next two 624 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: years before we host the Women's World Cup that'll be 625 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: done in Brazil. And also, I think the thing that's 626 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: so exciting is there is all that leeway and runway, 627 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 5: run up, run time way. Yeah exactly, because they can 628 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: do documentaries on players. 629 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I was going to say, they are the perfect place 630 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: to do the content and the original content around the 631 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: players and the leagues and the tournament to set people 632 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: up so that they have the connective tissue and the 633 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: information the need to get excited about it, and time 634 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: and space. Because it's a streaming platform that isn't beholden 635 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: to the regulations of set half hour hour time slots 636 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: and whatever. The buffering hopefully will be fixed, hopefully accessible 637 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: to enough. I know there's plenty of numbers around subscribers 638 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: versus people who have cable and all that. And I 639 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: understand that the numbers are getting much much closer than 640 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: they used to be, but I still think there's something 641 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: about the intentionality of pulling up something on streaming versus 642 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: the happenstance of arriving on something on television, whether that's 643 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: in a bar at home, that I hope doesn't prevent 644 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: the casual viewer from stumbling upon it and deciding it's 645 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: something worth watching. 646 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that is the biggest question. And 647 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 5: I think the hope is too that, because there's enough 648 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: runway leading up to that. Like I was just on 649 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 5: a podcast talking about this with Julie Foudy, and when 650 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: you turn on Netflix, and I don't know anyone who 651 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 5: doesn't have Netflix right as well, but when you turn on, 652 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 5: the first thing that's coming up is like WWE, So 653 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: there will be an opportunity for Netflix to get to. 654 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Place it on your homepage. Yes, next to like do 655 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: you want to keep watching Gilmore Girls? And the answers 656 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: always yes. Just in case I feel like the world 657 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: is collapsing upon us, I can always go back to 658 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Stars Hollow when I need to. And just you know, 659 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: you said they haven't announced talent yet for that right 660 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Netflix for their songer. Okay, so you know, as long 661 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: as we keep a lex ay lollssat of things, that'll 662 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: at least be a big bonus. 663 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: I know you can't speak to any of that, so 664 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: I won't make you respond. 665 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Laurie, Thank you so much for joining us, for talking 666 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: about all things soccer. 667 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love be a non Thank you so much. 668 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Laurie for hanging out with us. We 669 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: got to take another break when we come back. Birthday 670 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: breakfasts and high fives. 671 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Slices. 672 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: We always love that you're listening, but we want you 673 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: to get in the game every day too, So here's 674 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: our good gameplay of the day. Any Slices happen to 675 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: be going to the USA Australia she believes Cup game 676 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: in Glendale on Sunday, because I'm planning to be there 677 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: and I would love to meet you. Shoot me a 678 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: message on social at Sarah Spain dot com on Blue 679 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Sky or Spain two three two three on Insta. Maybe 680 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: we can high five or talk some shit about kangaroos 681 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: or something. 682 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: We always love to hear from you. 683 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Hit us up on email good game at wondermedianetwork dot 684 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: com or leave us a voicemail at eight seven two 685 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: two o four fifty seventy and don't forget to subscribe, 686 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: rate and review. It's easy, just take it from produce. 687 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: Thanks for Alex carrying your birthday celebration into the next 688 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 7: morning by eating birthday cake for breakfast, rating zero out 689 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: of zero regrets review. Want to avoid the post birthday blues, Well, 690 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 7: have I got a tradition for you. Make sure to 691 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 7: save a slice of birthday cake for breakfast. It's the 692 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 7: perfect way to extend your celebration for another day and 693 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 7: indulge in childish whimsy. Plus, my situ aka my Lebanese 694 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 7: grandmother used to say it was bad luck to throw 695 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 7: out birthday cake. So not only are you getting to 696 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 7: indulge in a post birthday tree, you're also lowering your 697 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 7: odds of accidentally letting cake go stale in the back 698 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 7: of the fridge and inadvertently sentencing yourself to three hundred 699 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 7: and sixty five days of bad luck. 700 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: Happy blated birthday, Alex. No shame in that cake game, 701 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: and I love the spin. Yeah, I mean, clearly it's 702 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: good luck to just keep eating cake. Why wouldn't you 703 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: eat it the next day too? Then, and the day 704 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: after that and the day after Now it's your turn slices, 705 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: rate and review. 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