1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Playmakers. I'm Haley Ellwood and look normally I 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: get right into it, but despite this intro being a 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: little different, it's for good reason because I'm so excited 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: about today's episode. It's a short week, but we're going 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: big with Thursday Night football on deck for the Los 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. I had the opportunity to chat with both 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Hannah Storm and Andrea Kramer, two women who truly embody 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: everything that Playmakers is about. The pair call Thursday night 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: football games on Amazon Prime Video and made history in 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when they became the first all female booth 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: to call an NFL game. I spoke with them separately, 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: but together we talk about the impact they've made, how 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: they found their groove in their third season, and we 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: also get into a little bit about the game. Fans 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: around the world can find Hannah and Andrea's broadcast this 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Thursday by opening the settings on their Prime Video device 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and selecting the Hannah Store Andrea Kramer broadcast. They will 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: also be on the calls for next week's holiday games 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: with Viking Saints on Christmas Day and forty nine Ers 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals on December twenty six, which will be available only 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: on Prime Videos. So without further ado, here are my 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: conversations with HANNAHS Storm and Andrea Kramer. Okay, let's say 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: hello and welcome in Hannah Storm to playmakers. Hannah, thank 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: you so much for doing this. How are you hey, 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm really busy this time of year, Oh 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: my gosh, between everything going on work wise and the holidays, 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: so it's crazy. It's been a lot of fun though. Yeah, 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's December. It's week fifteen in the NFL. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: I know, you and I were just talking off there 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot of news in the NBA happening. Just no 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: tis the season. I guess, as they say, yeah, it's 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: crazy because I'm doing you know, Sports Center and then 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Amazon and then the NBA is starting off and the 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: you know stretch run of the NFL. So I love it. 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. After being on the air so 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: much during the pandemic and there were so many times 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: when we barely had any live sporce to talk about, 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: you just feel so grateful that you know things are 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: happening now. Absolutely, I totally totally understand that. Okay, so 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: let us get into what you and Andrea Kramer do 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: for Amazon. Prime video for Thursday Night Football. You started 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: this first of its kind broadcast pairing in twenty eighteen. 43 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: How does it feel now being very deep into the 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: third season of calling games with Andrea? Yeah. I think 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: the great thing is the extension of what we started 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: back then, the fact that you know, we're now working 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: on some true sustainable longevity in terms of being able 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: to call games. It was such a learning carve, you know, 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: just like it is for a player coming in to 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: the NFL or a first time, you know, head coach, 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: we're deftly talking to them about the adjustments and just 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get your schedule straight. In terms 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: of for us, it's all the research and the things 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: that come in and the prep and you know, it 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: could be very overwhelming, just the pacing of the season 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and calling games. And so I think that we are 57 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: definitely in a groove in our third season in that regard, 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and I think more relaxed, more confident, and you know, 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: more how to prepare and how to organize their information 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and then what to do when we kick off, you 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: know when to use that when not too So I 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: just think, you know, with experience comes a lot more 63 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: confidence and that's the point where I feel that we've 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: come to now in its third season. You mentioned that 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: learning curve, But what was going through your mind when 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: you heard of this opportunity for the first time. I 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: was like, what, You've got to be kidding me, because 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I thought that this was nothing that I would ever see, 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: not just for myself but anywhere, for any women in 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: the industry, to have an all female team call NFL games, 71 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: It was completely unprecedented, especially when you're talking about this 72 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: wasn't some sort of one off. This is an entire season, 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: not just one game. Yeah, I think that was really 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: really important. The commitment by Amazon from a business standpoint 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: to do that, to make to make that big of 76 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: a commitment to us, and then to extend it for 77 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: two more seasons to really speaks volumes about Amazon and 78 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: not just the work that we've done, which of course 79 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: it validates that, but also on their commitment to putting 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: our voices on the air season after season. I think 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: has been you know, really really a game changer, and 82 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: nothing that it had been done before, nothing that is 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: being done anywhere else currently, although I hope it is 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: is down the road. So when I first heard about it, 85 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I was like kind of like a little bit terrified, like, wow, 86 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: can I do this? I would call the NFL Games, 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: but you know, I had called w NBA, I called 88 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Tennis Grand Slam Tennis before, and so I knew how 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: much I loved doing play by play and I how 90 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: much of a challenge it was that at the very 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: first I was like, oh, wow, like it's just like 92 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: one of those things that never occurred, do you. It 93 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: takes a minute, you gotta step back, think about it, 94 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: and then like, yeah, wow, you gotta be kidding me. 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: This is awesome. Well, and here you are three seasons essentially. 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Later into it, you had mentioned that you both have 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: known what it's like to forge careers in this industry 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: with nobody really having done it before you. So why 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: was taking on a role like this just so important 100 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: from that point of view. I think it's important because 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I think that for a lot of people, you need 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: to see something to kind of visualize it and also 103 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: to know that it's a viable career option. So what 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: was really important for me was us to do this, 105 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: but also to be successful, to you know, not be 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: one and done, but to be something that says you 107 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: can train for this, you can achieve this, and I 108 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: think that sometimes that needs to be in front of 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: people so that they know what their options are. You know, 110 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: they know what their dreams can be. And so from 111 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that standpoint, it was really important to me to kind 112 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: of really continue on the theme of my career and 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Andreas as well, in terms of being a role model, 114 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: breaking new territory and taking chances, betting on yourself that 115 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: you can do it, understanding yourself that you have the 116 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: work ethics to do your very best. And I think 117 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: that Andrey and I are so much alike in that 118 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: regard that I guess one other things that really made 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: made me want to do this was because I knew 120 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: the way that she worked and that we are so 121 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: similar in terms of our preparation and in terms of 122 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: our dedication to the job. So I knew that I 123 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: had a partner that I could depend upon and not 124 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any concerns at all in that regard. 125 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I knew how much she was going to bring to 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: the table. So I think that's a big part of 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: it too, that we actually decided to do this together, 128 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: to accept this incredible opportunity together, and that we have 129 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: done all of this really and locked up with each other, 130 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: which is also very unusual to see two women in 131 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the sports business to be able to you know, sign 132 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: contracts simultaneously, to make a commitment, and to have this 133 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: opportunity not just on the air, but you know from 134 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: a business standpoint together on that also was unprecedented. And 135 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: it's so that's another part of it that I think 136 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: has been really cool. I love it. You guys are 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: essentially teammates off the field. Yeah, we are. We are. 138 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: That's a very good way. You know, when I think 139 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: of something that recently happened, like you know, Jana Santantacupo 140 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: signing a Max deal to stay in Milwaukee. Well, he 141 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: doesn't do that. He does love Milwaukee and all of that, 142 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: but there is a commitment both ways, right, It's a 143 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: commitment to not only him see but to them building 144 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: a team around him. He feels that he can compete 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: for a championship. Well, it's the same thing with a 146 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: broadcast team, and it's it's chemistry and its commitment, and 147 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, two people that in this instance, you know, 148 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: a play by play and an analyst. Although we do 149 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: I would say we kind of go beyond just those 150 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: two roles. Um. You know, we're not traditional. I don't 151 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: just called plays, he doesn't just analyze. There's a lot 152 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: of conversation, a lot of opinion and so forth that 153 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: that goes into it back and forth. But you know, 154 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: it's it's critical to have that person on the other side, 155 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: that person on your team, UM, to to achieve your 156 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: ultimate goal is to really you know, entertain people, to 157 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: to educate them to a certain standpoint, because we have 158 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: over two hundred countries that can access our feed and 159 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: we don't know how well anybody you know, really knows 160 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: football might be their first time watching and to just 161 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: enjoy it and feel like they're hanging out with us, 162 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, on the couch. Uh, you know, as we 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: as we watch football. I mean it's kind of like 164 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: we take our our texting. We you know, we text 165 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: on Sundays as we're watching the teams to go back 166 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and forth. And it's kind of taking that to real life, 167 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, and the thing it out loud and and 168 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and so your teammate is really the critical element. And 169 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: so I have to give them a lot of credit 170 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and also our agency Octagon for really helping thing to 171 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: envisionist and bring it to life and make it a reality. 172 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: It was a really, really good idea, but it was 173 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: a good idea that had to be executed all around. Well, 174 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned something earlier that was so important 175 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: to me. I think as women in this industry, you 176 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: talked about being able to have it be visualized, that 177 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: representation being shown. Is there a weight or responsibility with 178 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: a role like this where other women can look to 179 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: you both and say like, hey, I want to do that, 180 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do in my career. Well, 181 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: they're absolutely one, and it is for me, okay, And 182 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: I can only speak on myself that you know, when 183 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I was getting into the business, there were not people 184 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: who were doing what I wanted to do, because there 185 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: were no women really doing what I wanted to do. 186 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: But there were women from the morning news shows who 187 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: were anchoring Olympics. For me, I could look at Jane 188 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Pauly for she's really the first person who comes to mind. 189 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: And then later you know Kathleen Sullivan as well, who 190 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: were sort of morning news anchors, but who were able 191 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to at least briefly transition to covering Olympics for several weeks. 192 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: So that was my role model when I was really 193 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: able to look at the television and see women who 194 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: were talking about sports. And of course, you know, well 195 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: before that of Phyllis George and Jane Kennedy had done 196 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: it as well on a national level, but they're just 197 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: weren't that many that were out there doing it. But 198 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: my father was involved in sports on a business level, 199 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,479 Speaker 1: so I was always a round sport. So I recognize 200 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I was, I guess smart enough to recognize that how 201 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: fun sports was and that that was a passion and 202 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: that that was a world that I was very comfortable in. 203 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: But I know that for a lot of people who 204 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: have followed, and I know this because they've been kind 205 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: enough to share with me personally, you know that they 206 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: saw me on the sidelines the NBA, you know, during 207 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan years, and then they were like, well 208 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: that I want to do that, like that that looks fun, 209 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Like that's my career goal. So I do think that 210 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: in any non traditional career, you do have a responsibility 211 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: metaly to yourself and obviously your employer to do as 212 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: good a job as you can possibly do, but also 213 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: so you do have an obligation for others who might 214 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: follow you and others who are watching you have an 215 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: obligation to inspire and an obligation to do it and 216 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: do it the right way, so that people understand that 217 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: they can expand their horizons and that they can think 218 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: about doing things that maybe you know, we're even available before, 219 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: or certainly aren't still available on a large scale. But 220 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I just think it gives it gives more people more 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: things to dream about, and I think that's absolutely one 222 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent critical. And it also normalizes female voices on 223 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: something like the NFL listen to you know, there's nowhere 224 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: else that you can hear two women on an NFL game. 225 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: You just can't do it. We've been doing it for 226 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: three years, and it makes that feel comfortable, and it 227 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: makes that feel normal, and it makes that feel like 228 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: why not, you know, And what I guess my hope 229 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: is that more there will be more and more opportunities 230 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: for all female teams to call not just NFL games, 231 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: but NBA games and Major League Baseball games and huge 232 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: soccer matches. I mean, there's absolutely no reason why that 233 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: can't happen. And I really, I really hope that you know, 234 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: in the coming years, it's my hope that we are 235 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg and that down the 236 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: road we're going to see women with much more options 237 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: because there are so many live sporting events and women 238 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: should be doing play by play and analysis on those events. 239 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot of jobs, it's a lot of opportunities. 240 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Just like I would like to see more women directing 241 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: sports documentary and the like, and I would like to 242 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: see more women in the control room at the helm 243 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,359 Speaker 1: of these live broadcasts. So it shouldn't just be sideline 244 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: roles and just be studio roles, or shouldn't be limited 245 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: to that. I would like to see it across the board, 246 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: just like I'd like to see more women in the 247 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: front office running major league sports franchises in very meaningful ways. Well, 248 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: and to that point that you make about expanding horizons, 249 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: what can you say about versatility and the role that 250 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: it plays in an industry like this one. I think 251 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: versatility is critical. I think too because there are so 252 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: many opportunities that they're always changing. For instance, this is 253 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: a streaming broadcast. Now, people are all over the place 254 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the college games their living rooms. For goodness, saying one 255 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: person will be in place, ay, one person will be 256 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: a place be and then the game will be a 257 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: place see right. But we were doing this added a curve, 258 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: and we were doing this a couple of years ago, 259 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and we were able to pull off, which, believe me, 260 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: is no easy feat, not just pulling a football game, 261 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: but calling it off of a feed that we don't 262 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: have control over. So we're calling it this year off 263 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a Fox's feed, so they're throwing up graphics and pictures 264 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: and going in and out of reports and doing all 265 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: sorts of things that we have to work around. You 266 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: have to seed a certain amount of control. You can't 267 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: go into this business, into really any show or any 268 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: broadcast thinking, you know, we've got control over this whole thing, 269 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: because so many there's so many factors. There's so much 270 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: that's happening. You've seen it, even with games, with the 271 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: scheduling and the COVID era, all sorts of craziness. There's 272 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: done a couple of times, we've done two games in 273 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: one week. You know, it's just it's just sort of 274 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: the name of the game right now is versatility and flexibility. 275 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: I would say that's the other the other one, and 276 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: then I would say, you know, not being close minded 277 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: to opportunities and understanding that you know there are going 278 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: to be things that are out there, like this opportunity 279 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that you're going to get where you're it feels a 280 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: little bit like taking a risk, like doing something new 281 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: and unchartered territory. You know, I don't know, I've been 282 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: really successful in this area. Do I really want to 283 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: try something new? Well, the answer is yes, you do. 284 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: You want to push yourself, You want to to show 285 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: yourself that that you can do it, and you want 286 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: to show others as well, because if you say no. 287 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: You know, if Andrey and I had said no, they 288 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: weren't going to do this right, Okay, you literally wouldn't 289 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: be Yeah, wouldn't be happening. It literally that's not going 290 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: to happen because they're like, this is who we want. 291 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna ask them. And if they say no, 292 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: well that well then where are we? Okay you know 293 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's it's you know, you owe 294 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: it to I think other people, and you owe it 295 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: to yourself but also to the business at large to 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: accept these opportunities and to to do your very best 297 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: because it expands everybody for arises, you know, not just yours, 298 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: but everyone so yes, being versatile, being flexible, being a 299 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: little bit, being a little bit bit daring, you know 300 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, And adventurous with your career and thinking 301 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: about things that are new, you know, that haven't been 302 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: there previously. I mean that's really important. It's going to 303 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: continue to change the sports landscape. And you know, you've 304 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: seen people take on all sorts of things, streaming podcasts, 305 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, what have you. But people are being very, 306 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: very creative about how they're covering live events. I think 307 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: it's really important to have an open mind. Now when 308 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the Chargers, despite the team's record, new 309 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: quarterback Justin Herbert, he's been doing some things this year. 310 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: What are your impressions of what you've seen from him? Yeah, 311 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's a rookie, you know. I mean, he'll 312 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: be around a long time. He's strong, he is super impressive. 313 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Let's face it, going into halftime that team could have 314 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: been so deflated they literally to just folded up dead. 315 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was such a demoralizing sequence 316 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: of events and it's the here we go again. I 317 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: think the good thing about having a rookie quarterback is 318 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: that you are you know, he's the eternal optimist right 319 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: at this point in his career. He's not jaded, he's competent, 320 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: he's positive and although that's really important. So probably the 321 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: thing I'm most anxious to see is Justin Herbert and 322 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: see how he's able to play off of that game 323 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: winning drive. Also something positive. You know, what are they 324 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: going to build next season? I'll tell you. With Justin 325 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Herbert there and the location of the team in Los Angeles, 326 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: to me, it is a very attractive destination. Obviously, you 327 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: know in San Diego, you had, hey, we have the 328 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: best weather in the world, like come to play here, 329 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: like everybody wanted to play there. But I do think 330 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: that there's there are a lot of Chargers have a 331 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: lot going for them. It begins with Herbert. I think 332 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: his talent is so tantalizing, and he just appears to 333 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: be again built for the long haul in the NFL. 334 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: So I'm really anxious to see you. You could almost 335 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: see him going on a Josh Allen esque trajectory and 336 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: and I just I love what I see for him, 337 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: so does everybody else. And I think that there's there's 338 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: your building block. I think it starts with him. It's 339 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: putting pieces around him to you know, have him excel. 340 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean I mentioned Josh Shallen. Look at Baker Mayfield 341 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: at number one overall pick a. We just now, just 342 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: now are starting to see glimpses of the Baker Mayfield 343 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: that won the Husband Trophy. You know, this starting college 344 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: and it really did take Kevin Stefanski coming in and 345 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: and selling a game plan to make him comfortable and 346 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: then you know, hopefully they're going to have that that 347 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: steady running game that's going help him as well. But 348 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: I you know, it takes a while, like it doesn't 349 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: happen overnight necessarily, and the Chargers are in the very 350 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: beginning of that of that process. Yeah. And I think 351 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: one thing too though, that you know, for Chargers fans 352 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: who might be down on the season, Look, it's very 353 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: rare that you go in the NFL from one great 354 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: quarterback to then tapping into something where you could, like 355 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: you said, longevity is set up for Herbert's career and 356 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: you go, oh, this kid's pretty good here. I mean, 357 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: you think about the Niners, you think about the Packers, 358 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: you think about other teams, but very lucky in the 359 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: future is bright in that sense, like you said, get 360 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the right pieces around build around him, things will definitely 361 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: be on the swing. Yeah, they had I mean I think, 362 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: like interestingly, like it wasn't like Herbert had the opportunity 363 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: to sit at all, right, you know, really thrown into 364 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: the fire obviously with Philip leaving, and I think you know, 365 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's hurt him and in any 366 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: appreciable way. The losing and the tough times this season. 367 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, you can ruin a quarterback, you can ruin 368 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. It just even though they haven't won, 369 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: that does not appear to be the case. And I 370 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: think that, as you stated, that's real positive for the Chargers. 371 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: You know, he's been able to shine even though they 372 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: haven't been winning and they've had some terrible, you know, moments, 373 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: close losses. That has continued. But yes, at the most 374 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: important position on the field, they are rock solid in 375 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: that critical And then lastly, Hannah, just kind of circling 376 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: back to the original conversation, what is your advice to 377 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: women to be confident in themselves and use their voice 378 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: in the work like this that you do? I think 379 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: you just I always say that you just have to 380 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: really work hard, and that is a very simple answer. 381 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: It is one that you cannot take for granted. I 382 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: think you know, particularly you know, this is a field 383 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: that you're into. I do think, you know, substance really 384 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: really triumphs overall. And so I think you know, hard 385 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: really really hard work. Um. Good attitude, Like I said, Um, flexibility. 386 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: I think credibility is huge so and I think that's 387 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: earned and built over time. So I think, you know, 388 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, a little bit of patience is 389 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: not bad either. And you know, just really I think 390 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: learning to be a good writer, um, it's it's it's 391 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: critically important to write well. I think to interview well 392 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: and listen it is critically important. I think to sometimes 393 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: really understand that you're much part of a larger picture. 394 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: Um and listen. Um, everybody today is kind of their 395 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: own little company. You know, they're building their own brands 396 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: on on Instagram and Twitter and whatnot, and they you know, 397 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: I would say that a lot of people, men and women, 398 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: aren't devoting a ton of time to that, and that's 399 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: great that they have the opportunity to do that and 400 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: be creative and set the faith out there that they 401 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: want people to see. More important that you you know, 402 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: always remember to put the substance behind that, um that 403 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: you're really really good at what you do, and that 404 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: just takes you know, sort of rolling up your sleeves 405 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of hard work which is kind of 406 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: tedious at times, but you know it just it has 407 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: to be done and done the right way. Well, thank 408 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: you so much. That was a lot of great advice. 409 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: This whole conversation was fantastic. I am so glad we 410 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: were able to talk to you, Hannah. Thank you so much. 411 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: Good time, Yang, Thanks and thanks for doing it. I 412 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: really really appreciate it was. It was a lot of fun. 413 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: And and Mary Christmas and Happy New Year. Same to you, 414 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: same to you. All right, it is now time to 415 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: say hello to Andrea Kramer. Andrea, I am so excited. 416 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: I just spoke with Hannah Storm. So excited to have 417 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: you on. And really, when I started Playmakers a year ago, 418 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to have the two of you on. I 419 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do it, and yet here we 420 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: are in week fifteen of the twenty twenty season. How 421 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: are you? Thank you for coming on? Well, thank you, 422 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: first of all, it's great to be on with you, 423 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: and thank you for asking how are you because I 424 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: keep maintaining it's probably the most important question we can 425 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: ask each other this year. And I am good. Everybody 426 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: in my family is healthy, which is most important. And 427 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 1: hey made it through this far and no cases, I 428 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: am knocking on wood. That is not a sound effect, 429 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: that is actually me knocking on wood here. So you know, 430 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: just listen, making the best of a difficult situation, and 431 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: very grateful that we still have these jobs and this 432 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to cover the games. You nailed it right there. Okay, 433 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: So let's get into the job that you and Hannah 434 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Storm do for Amazon Prime Video Thursday Football. Third season 435 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: for you both, how if it all? Has this job 436 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: gotten easier now? Like I said in your third season 437 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: of working together, I kind of joke that I've spoken 438 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: to rookie coaches head coaches over the years and I'm 439 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: sort of like, well, how is your first season? And 440 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: there they say, oh my god, you don't even know 441 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: what you don't know. Everything gets thrown at you at once, 442 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: and the first season is a blur. And that's how 443 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I viewed our first season. Considering that both Hannah and 444 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: I had over thirty plush years of experience in covering 445 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: sports and of course, Hannah, with all of her news experience, 446 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: we'd never done these specific jobs before, and until you 447 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: do it, you really don't know you can. And every 448 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: week was a great challenge and a learning experience. And 449 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: I think I can accurately convey that from all accounts, 450 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: we got better each week, which is all you can ask. 451 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: But I will I will tell you, Haley, even go 452 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: into the second year, there was a huge difference, just 453 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: a conferent level, sort of just reminding yourself we can 454 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: do this. And then this year going in with sort 455 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: of just a late start and really only one preseason rehearsal, 456 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: and I remember specifically saying to Hannah, I go, Hannah, 457 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: we can do this. We know we can do this. 458 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: And again, just that confidence that you have allows us 459 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: to focus on what's really important, which is our preparation 460 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: and still continuing to get better each week. So take 461 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: us behind the curtain, because I know that both of you, 462 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: you're working out of a studio, you're not at the 463 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: game's Hannah joked, Hey, look at everyone's doing that now 464 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, you guys kick that off. But how 465 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: do you prepare? What is that preparation process? Like if 466 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: you only could see my office right now, you would 467 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: see the disaster that is my preparation. There's notes, there's 468 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: video I've got. You know, I'm in the midst of 469 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: watching the first game between the Chargers and the Raiders. 470 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: I've obviously already watched both of their games from Sunday, 471 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: you know. It's the preparation is is pretty intense, and 472 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: we have our typical production meetings that I always had 473 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: when I was doing Sunday Night Football. I typically, in 474 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: addition to what we do as a group, I will 475 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: talk to both coordinators. I'd like to talk to the 476 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: gm uh sunames. I'll track down, you know, last year, 477 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: for example, prior to the Chargers game, I talk to 478 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: Ladany and Tomlinson. Just sometimes I'd like to just try 479 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: to find additional people that I think could add perspective 480 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: to the matchup. So the preparation kind of feels endless, 481 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: and at some point you have kind of have to 482 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: be like an attict, like cut me off. Yeah, I'm done, right, 483 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: but but there you're actually never done. And then, of course, 484 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: as I love to say, you do all this preparation 485 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: and then a game breaks out, and that's what you 486 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: have to remember. Is that you never get away from 487 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the developing storylines that you see during the course of 488 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: the game. But I just know for me, who for 489 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: many many years obviously covering sports and I'm sure you 490 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: can relate to this, was relegated to these little twenty 491 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: five second soundbites. Now, it's just it's so great to 492 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: be able to talk football. Hannah jokes with me on 493 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: and off the air all the time, and now Andrew 494 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: is about to geek out on us. She talks about 495 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the jet package or whatever it is. But I will 496 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: say that one thing that I really had committed to 497 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: myself going into this role was that if I was 498 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: going to talk the football language, which we know exists, 499 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: that I was going to make sure that I could 500 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: explain it to the audience. And the great Al Michaels 501 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: had given me. Of all the advice that he gave me, 502 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: one thing he said he was the analysts have no 503 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: idea what they're talking about, and of the audience doesn't either, 504 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: but they think it sounds really cool. So I made 505 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: this commitment. Whatever I'm going to talk about using this 506 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: football language, I need to be able to explain lane 507 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: it because again, Haley, we don't know who's listening and 508 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: where they are right and if they're listening around the 509 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: world somewhere, we have to make sure they understand what 510 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about regarding American football. Yeah. I think that's 511 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: the amazing thing about the stream on Amazon Prime is 512 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: that you guys are being broadcast in over two hundred countries, 513 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: So there are people from, like you said, all over 514 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: the world who are listening and casual fans, serious fans. 515 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: But the one thing always always, can you imagine that 516 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: if there's people in like Indonesia and they think that 517 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: two women talking about football is just normal? Yeah, they 518 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: don't think They don't think it's kind of weird, like 519 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: or you know, different or strange or such an anomaly 520 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: like like some people here might. Yeah, that's a really 521 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: great point and just sort of speaks to how you know, 522 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: one thing I talked with Hannah about is she goes, 523 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I hope at some point this is normal. 524 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: You know that, and I think having these conversations is 525 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: so great. But at one point, you know, we hope 526 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: to get to the point where we don't have to 527 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: talk about two women calling an NFL game because other 528 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: women will do it. But you guys just happen to 529 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: be the first, which is extre special. You mention in 530 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: your prep work, you know, maybe calling someone like Ladanian, Tomlinson, 531 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: calling someone like lt maybe digging a little deeper. And 532 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: you've said, how both of you add depth to the broadcast. 533 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: You put a reporter, journalist spin on play by play 534 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: and color. Why was that so important to you? Well, 535 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: let's let's put it this way. If your quarterback as 536 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: an analyst, you're going to analyze the game from that perspective. 537 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean to take Tony Romore for example. Everybody's trying 538 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: to figure out what makes them so good. We'll think 539 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: about what a quarterback does when the play ends, he 540 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: immediately starts looking ahead to the next play. He immediately 541 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: starts getting the play call and focusing on that. So 542 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: he takes his experience and he brings it into the 543 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: broadcast booth. This same thing for us. Okay, so this justin, Haley, 544 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: I haven't played the game if you don't actually count 545 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: ninth grade when I was a blonde lefty allah Boomera Siasin. 546 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I have not played the game at 547 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: any level that anybody really cares about. So you have 548 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: to focus on your strengths and I are both really 549 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: good I think reporters, we're really good journalists. This is 550 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: how we have cultivated our careers. Last week, for example, 551 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: with Dez Bryant testing positive woman's for the game and 552 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: this was this I think is a good snapshot of 553 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Hannah brings us on the air. 554 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: While she's bringing us on the air, I'm literally texting 555 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: with somebody from the league office who was telling me, okay, 556 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: no contact tracing, and I'm giving the inform I'm writing 557 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: the information down, I'm showing her my phone, I'm giving 558 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: her the information in real time. So we literally are 559 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: able to report what's going on and give people in 560 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: developing information. And I think that that's you know, that's again, 561 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: that's thirty plus years of contacts in the business and 562 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: knowing how to report and certainly when news breaks, I'm 563 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: going to put Hannah and me up against any booth 564 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: out there in terms of knowing what's the important information 565 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: to disseminate to the audience and how to get it. 566 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Is there a fun sort of exciting element. Maybe, Look, 567 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned when the game kicks off, you just don't 568 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, like you said, or pregames, 569 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't know what's going to happen. But with 570 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: what you do, Hannah mentions, you take the fox Feed, 571 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: you work off the fox Feed. Is there an exciting 572 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: element knowing that you guys are literally going by the 573 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: seat of your pants when sometimes you don't know certain 574 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: things like what's coming out of a break or something 575 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: like that. I'm not sure i'd use the word exciting 576 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: to describe what you've just mentioned. Is it an adrenaline rush? Listen? 577 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: The great thing about our broadcast is that we're doing it. 578 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: It's not the most ideal situation, but what we have 579 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: to do as broadcasters is not let the audience in 580 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: on that. The audience doesn't understand or care about what 581 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: limitations we have. They just want good information, good stories 582 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: of an insight. So there's you know, there's no font 583 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: that comes up and says they're taking the fox Feed 584 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: and they don't know what's coming up next. You just 585 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: have to roll with it as best as possible. I 586 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: happen to think very strongly that one of the greatest 587 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: assets of our broadcast the way it's currently configured, is 588 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: having Hannah storm in the play by playrole. She is 589 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: absolutely uncanny in her ability to get in and out 590 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: of breaks, her you know, being able to be counted 591 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: down into I mean, granted, it's not like she just 592 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: started doing this yesterday, but I think that what she 593 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: brings to the broadcast is really the element that makes 594 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: it so seamless, because it's really hard to pivot sometimes, 595 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: and again, unless you've been in that situation, you don't 596 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: really understand it. And again, what the audience doesn't care. 597 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: They just want the good quality that hopefully we're providing. 598 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: But I think that really our secret weapon in making 599 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: it as seamless as possible is having Hannah in the 600 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: role that she's in and talking to both of you, 601 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: you're so complimentary of each other. And when speaking to Hannah, 602 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: we talked about YouTube being teammates, you know, your teammates 603 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: in this, just like guys are teammates out on the field. 604 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: What have you two learned about each other in this process? Well, 605 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: you know that I probably I am in the Guinness 606 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Book of World Records, or at least I should be 607 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: for having worked with both the husband and wife. Yeah, 608 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: so her husband, Dan Hicks is my husband. I mean, 609 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, I did three. I did three Olympics with him, 610 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: in fact, just last week, and I adore Hannah and 611 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: we had quite the laugh about this. She I forget 612 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: what it was that she did, but uh, and I'm 613 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: very good at making her laugh so hard that she 614 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: will literally cry. But last week I said something and 615 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: I go, God, you know, I love your husband because 616 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: he has to put up with you and then they 617 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: put up with me. And she nods her head in acknowledgement, 618 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: because you know, Dan Hicks is definitely a saint for that. 619 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: But you know, listen, Hannah and I actually we go 620 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: back really a few decades in terms of knowing each 621 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: other and being I would call us casual friends. But 622 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I think that what I've what I've seen mirror images 623 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: of ourselves held up when I look at her. I mean, 624 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: it's really scary sometimes to the point where we're having 625 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: dinner last week and we're sitting at the at the 626 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: table with them with our our long time spot or 627 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: and we realized we lived in the same apartment building 628 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: in New York twenty years ago. Wow, it's crazy. She's like, oh, yeah, 629 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: well I lived at sixty sixty sire a. No, I 630 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: lived at West at sixty sixty six and Ben looks 631 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: at me, look looks at our producer and goes, this 632 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: happens all at the time. You know, It's just it's 633 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: really interesting how we have had parallel universes in many 634 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: in many respects. And the thing that I really believe 635 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: is the engine that makes our relationship work is we 636 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: have the same exact work ethic and I know and 637 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: I trust greatly how she's going to prepare. She knows 638 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: she can trust me. It's just it's it's a huge 639 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: thing as we learn. The great term that I've learned 640 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: in this role is booth choreography, and I think it's 641 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: a it's a wonderful expression that you do. You really 642 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: have to learn. You have to learn how to do 643 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: that to make it really a balletic, seamless dance that 644 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: goes on for the audience. Because ultimately, Haley, we want 645 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: people to think we're just hanging out with Hannah Andrea 646 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: watching the game. That's what she said. You guys text 647 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: on Sundays and that's what you bring every Thursday. Yes, yeah, 648 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: we do text during games. I'll be like, what game 649 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: are you wat? Which one are you watching? First of 650 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: our games run concurrently because it's it's fun, you know 651 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, We and it kind of gets us 652 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: in the mood of just sort of corresponding back and 653 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: forth with each other. So getting to this game, Chargers 654 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: are out of it, we know that, but they could 655 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: place for Biler and foil the Raiders postseason plans. What 656 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: do you make of this matchup? Well, I'm just really 657 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: really psyched about seeing justin Herbert yea of an action, 658 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to speaking with him. And I remember the 659 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: first year that we talked to Patrick Mahomes and as 660 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: he was starting, you know, his second season, but the 661 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: first his first year as a starter, And I just 662 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoy just talking to these guys because it 663 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: is you really do get a sense of them, even 664 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: just through the interview process, in the production meeting process. 665 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. And then of course 666 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing what he's going to 667 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: do further in the offense. I mean, look, the last 668 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: game was was pretty competitive between these two teams, So 669 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: I think that I think that each game I want 670 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: to see where he is developing. I know, speaking of Mahomes, 671 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: he had a great expression that he used which is 672 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 1: that every game that he plays, he adds to sort 673 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: of his mental rolodex, if you will. He adds to 674 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: the things that he's seen, whether it's different defenses or 675 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: different different blocking teams, whatever it is. And I'm really 676 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: interested to see how Justin Herbert continues to evolve even 677 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: during the course of a season. I mean, obviously he's 678 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: in a position as as the rookie of the year 679 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: and all, and I'm just I'm really excited to see, uh, 680 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: to see what he's going to do on the road 681 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: against this against this uh, certainly a Raiders defense that 682 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: I think we can clearly says in turmoil, when you're 683 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: changing your coordinator days before you know a game, that's uh, 684 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: that's that's going to be. It's gonna be a challenge 685 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: for for that side of the ball for them. So 686 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: another guy who poses a challenge on that side of 687 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: the ball for them, Keenan Allen. He has had some 688 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: really big games this season despite having a new quarterback. 689 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: His production is as high as ever. Where for you 690 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: does he rank among other whiteouts in the NFL And 691 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: do you think he gets the credit that he deserves. Well, 692 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because we used to talk about Davanta 693 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: Adams of the Packers as sort of the most underrated 694 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: receiver that nobody talks about. But now the way that 695 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: he and Aaron continue to just evolve in that absolutely 696 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: sublime offense in Green Bay, that we don't talk about 697 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,959 Speaker 1: him that way right now, I think it's Keenan Allen. 698 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: And look, part of it is playing I was about 699 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: to say in San Diego, but I'm not going to 700 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: say San Diego. And it's not so much the anonymity 701 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: of of playing in Los Angeles, but I think that 702 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: certainly for the Chargers, I just don't think that people 703 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: will think about him first and foremost. And that impresses 704 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: me even more about Keenan Allen because he just keeps producing, 705 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: and he keeps having these these really absolutely magnificent performances 706 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: and the fact that he is doing it with not 707 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: just a rookie quarterback, as you point out, but how 708 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: many years were he in Philip in complete Cicatigo and 709 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers obviously, and so for him to even change quarterbacks, 710 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: not to mention a rookie quarterback. But I kind of 711 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: I kind of like it because I'm sure and it's 712 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: something I'll definitely want to ask Justin. I am sure 713 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: that Keen having Keenan Allen out there has helped facilitate 714 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's development as a quarterback, not just the looking 715 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: at the productivity that Keen in his head. If you 716 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: understand what I mean, can you imagine just having that 717 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: kind of resource and knowing that he's out there and 718 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: he's always I mean we saw it just you know, 719 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: just being able to keep the play as Justin Herbert 720 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: is running around, Keenan Allen is looking in that scramble 721 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: drill to keep the play alive in some capacity and 722 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: find a hole in that in that soft zone to 723 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: make the play. Yeah, their connection, I mean it's been 724 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: something to watch this year, and it's something so exciting 725 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: with Keenan getting his contract extension earlier this season, and 726 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: it's something the Chargers fans should be so excited about 727 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: to watch it grow, to watch it develop as Herbert 728 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: moves on through his career. I mean, hey, this is 729 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: year one and like you said, he's not just a Rickie. 730 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: There was no preseason, but what both of them have 731 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: done this year, and I get your point to kind 732 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: of help each other. To have a guy like Keenan 733 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: Allen to rely on who's a veteran, who's been there, 734 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: who's seen it, got to be super super helpful for him. Yeah, 735 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: especially because obviously the running back corps has with Austin 736 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: Neckler getting in and out and due to his hamstring 737 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: injury and things of that nature. And yeah, I think 738 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: that it's certainly an adjustment with all the offensive personnel. 739 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: And I think that I think that, look, you know, 740 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: the record and the other things. I mean, I'm a 741 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: big Anthony Lynn fan. I've known him his entire career. 742 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: He's a great man. It's it's a very, very very 743 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: difficult season out there. But you know, listen, you mentioned 744 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: justin having this you know, this oberrational offseason. Well, you 745 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: know what a lot of teams have. Obviously the team 746 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 1: has and a lot of players have. So I do 747 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: think that his ability to sort of seamlessly step into 748 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: this role and have this sort of record breaking season 749 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: that he has been having is really impressive. And I'm 750 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: just looking forward to seeing what his continued development is. 751 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: And then lastly, Andreatte, You're a Hall of Famer. Maybe 752 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: not for the reason that you played a lefty quarterback 753 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: back in the day but for a very very different 754 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: and special reason, a long career in this business. What 755 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: do you think is next for women in sports broadcasting? Well, look, 756 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: I think that Hannah and I are very proud of 757 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: the door that we are opening. I certainly hope that 758 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: it proves that women covering football games can be more 759 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: than quote unquote just sideline reporters, which Hannah and I 760 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: have both been. And I think that what's the most 761 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: important thing to remember, Hailey, is give people the opportunities 762 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: if they've earned it. Don't put somebody out there just 763 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: because they're a woman, just because they're a minority. But 764 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: they need to earn the opportunity because ultimately, if they 765 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: really haven't paid their dues, if they really aren't prepared, 766 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: then it's going to be a setback for everybody because 767 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: then then you start getting into the hall. Well you know, 768 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I shouldn't really know, it's just hot game. No. No, 769 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: If women have earned the opportunity, they should be able 770 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: to step into two different roles. It's it's just that's simple. 771 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: And I hope that that's what we see, and I 772 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: hope that it's not done as a gimmick. I certainly 773 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: I've said it all along. The credit that I give 774 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: to Amazon is it could have been one game, but no, 775 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was a whole season of commitment. But 776 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: after our first season, Amazon renewed as six months early, 777 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: brought us back for the second season, and now having 778 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: a third season now all of a sudden, it's like, 779 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: you know, the consistency and the commitment is really a 780 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: profound statement in itself, and that I'm really, really really 781 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: proud of that, because you know, I do not make 782 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: comparisons between us and any other booth, but this is 783 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of a kind of a fun one spotter that 784 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: we have that I mentioned to you is works on 785 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football as well, and he reminded us that 786 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: Hannah and I have more experienced broadcasting NFL games than 787 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: the Monday Night Football booth right now, so I'll bet 788 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different medium, but but 789 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: still we're all talking football in the booth. So I'm 790 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: proud of what we've been able to what we've been 791 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: able to do over this, you know, really three seasons now, 792 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: and again the key thing for me are we improving 793 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: every week? And I still feel that we are, and 794 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: we get great feedback from our producers, which you know me, 795 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: I crave I crave that. I just I always want 796 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: the constructive criticism and feedback, and I think we get it. 797 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: And never never stop asking questions because you want to 798 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: learn and improve. That that's always a great way to 799 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: approach things. And above all, just you know, we're just 800 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: having fun. We really are. We're just having fun because 801 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: that's that's what you want. You want people to feel 802 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: like they're coming along, watching the game with you and 803 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: having fun doing so. I think it's important too for 804 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: those who are listening, for both of you, like you said, 805 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: who have spent over three decades each in this business, 806 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: that there is no end to learning, there is no stop. 807 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: You are constantly learning, you're constantly growing. It's a great 808 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: piece of advice. Andrea, thank you so much. All right, Haley, 809 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: thank you, and to you and to your your listeners, 810 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: stay healthy and happy holidays.