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Speaker 1: Jay Shetty's podcast On Purpose is the number one health

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Speaker 1: Jay Shetty, who you all may know, to discuss the

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Speaker 1: administration's effort to tackle the mental health crisis.

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Speaker 1: On Purpose with Ja Shetty.

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful and honored that you're here with me

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Speaker 2: This is an extremely special interview today as I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: down with the President of the United States, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: This is only possible because of all your love and

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Speaker 2: the President and his team felt was right to talk

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Speaker 2: about mental health. This conversation is dedicated to the person

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Speaker 2: behind the podium. I always want to get to know

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Speaker 2: the human behind the title, behind the position, behind what

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Speaker 2: they do in the world, and spotlight and shine a

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Speaker 2: light on mental health. We talk about so many of

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Speaker 2: the things that he's gone through in his personal life.

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that I got to have this conversation

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Speaker 2: that we're going to share with the world at large

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Speaker 2: and make sure that mental health is a mainstream conversation

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Speaker 2: because it's so integral to all of our lives. I

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoy this conversation. Thank you for all your

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Speaker 2: love and support. Means the world to me. Hey everyone,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health and

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Speaker 2: wellness podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every

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Speaker 2: one of you that come back every week to learn, listen,

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Speaker 2: and grow. Now you know our mission here is to

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Speaker 2: make the world happier, healthier, and more healed. And I

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Speaker 2: believe that learning about people's stories of healing, of grief,

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Speaker 2: of loss of growth is a powerful way to do that.

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Speaker 2: And today I've been graciously invited to the White House

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Speaker 2: and I'm sitting with mister President, and I'm so grateful

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Speaker 2: and honored to be here and to have you on

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Speaker 2: our platform, and for you to choose our platform to

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Speaker 2: have this conversation. I couldn't be more honored. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Thank you. I'm on interview me absolutely Well,

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Speaker 2: let's dive straight in. The first question I'd like to

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Speaker 2: ask you is what is your earliest childhood memory that

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Speaker 2: you believe defines who you are today and passing you've become.

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Speaker 3: The earliest memory I have is there's two of them.

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Speaker 3: One is there was a bully in the neighborhood lived

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Speaker 3: the pantry looking out. The tough guy in the neighborhood

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Speaker 3: smacked me. Was a couple years older than me, and

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Speaker 3: I came in hold on my face, and my grandfather

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Speaker 3: was at the kitchen table and sw what's the matter, Joey,

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Speaker 3: and he said, that's a shame. I walked in and

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Speaker 3: my mother said, Joey, go back out there. So go

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Speaker 3: back out there. I said, walk up to wait till

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Speaker 3: smack him right in the nose. And the nose. She said,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you fifty cents if you do it. And

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Speaker 3: I said, why Mom, She said, you won't be able

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Speaker 2: I had a similar experience with being bullied, so that

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Speaker 3: I think everybody does. Yeah, I was the run of

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Speaker 2: Well, well, for me, it was my weight. I was

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Speaker 2: I grew up in an area where I wasn't surrounded

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Speaker 2: the two reasons. Except my mother didn't give me that advice.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I wish she did. My mother did the opposite.

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Speaker 2: She actually came into my school and spoke to the teachers,

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Speaker 2: which it's really embarrassing at that age, and you know,

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Speaker 3: No, I think maybe it is. You know, I had

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Speaker 3: he was a gentle man and this, And the teacher said,

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Speaker 3: ceiling anyway. To make a long story short, she said,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to speak to the teacher. My mother said,

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Speaker 3: and she she looked and like, I said, what should

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Speaker 3: Do you understand me. Swear to God, get up, walked out,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you had also had some experiences someone say,

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Speaker 3: introduced me when I ran for president, took such courage

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Speaker 3: because he talked to talk like that, and he practiced,

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Speaker 3: He practiced, he practiced, but it's had a profound impact

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Speaker 3: doing a thing for al Gore, and she introduced her

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, I'm about to finish my speech. Why

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Speaker 3: with what I did. Did you ever see the movie

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Speaker 3: The King Speech? Yes, of course. Well the gentleman who

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Speaker 3: had that had a copy of the King's speech? Who

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Speaker 3: did it? Sent me a copy, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I have my book with me, but there's one

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Speaker 3: of these days I'll show you my speeches. I looked

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Speaker 3: Every speech I mark up is the same way they

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Speaker 3: might have it. See the slash marks I put on. Yes, well,

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Speaker 3: it's just to help me. But you know there are

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Speaker 3: people who reached out to me too. Maybe that impediment

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, isn't it. How I challenge that you're going

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Speaker 2: through actually helps you become more compassionate and empathetic towards

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Speaker 3: It's kind of human nature for most people. When you

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Speaker 3: understand the pain someone's feeling, your first instinct is, look.

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Speaker 3: We have an expression in the family. From the time

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I'll never forget. You've just reminded me. Ian

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Speaker 2: Winds was his name. He was the toughest kid in

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Speaker 3: Well, it really is all about reaching out, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, for real, think of all the young people today.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's more anxiety and loneliness today than

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Speaker 3: friend I appointed, Admiral mcmurthy, he was telling me about,

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Speaker 3: you know, the percentage of young people today who are

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Speaker 3: feeling lonely alone, and sometimes it's just just touching, just

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Speaker 3: showing up. I used to get see son, Beau, who

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Speaker 3: I'd get in a plan and go home. And because

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Speaker 3: passed away. The hundreds of people have told me how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been through you mentioned it there. You've been

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Speaker 2: through so much tragic loss in your life, as you

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Speaker 2: just mentioned there. You didn't run for presidency in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: shortly after the loss of your son. You've lost your

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Speaker 2: in the way you have. It's truly admirable. How did

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Speaker 3: I had an overwhelming advantage in the loss, and that

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Speaker 3: For example, when my wife and daughter were killed, my

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Speaker 3: I agree, But it's just half of just showing up.

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Speaker 2: That's not a weakness, but that was you. Because so

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a rule that I thought that everybody

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Speaker 3: For example, we were doing a very very important Supreme

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Speaker 3: Well, Because there's only one advantage of getting older, You've

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Speaker 3: I think so now I have to admit, when you've

433
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Speaker 3: been through something that's been particularly difficult, helping someone going

434
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Speaker 3: through it again forces you to relive your experience, like,

435
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Speaker 3: for example, the people I admire when we have functions

436
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: where we're trying to make a point of how we

437
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Speaker 3: can help someone with health care, whatever it is. The

438
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: people have been through it who show up and support it.

439
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: I always compliment them because it's like it happened yesterday.

440
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Speaker 3: When you start to focus on it, and it's hard,

441
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: we underestimate what we can do. I'm not about time

442
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Speaker 3: being president, I mean just what we can do in

443
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Speaker 3: terms of dealing with people. I try to understand and

444
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Speaker 3: what is motivating the other person when I'm doing things

445
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Speaker 3: internationally or personally, because if you can understand what motivates them,

446
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 3: there's a shot, even with the bad guys, you can

447
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: break through and get something done. There's a way to

448
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: expose the meanness without causing direct conflict. For example, I

449
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 3: remember I went to a Catholic grade school and we

450
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Speaker 3: didn't often get invited to the katillion, which was in

451
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Speaker 3: the local school down the street at Mount Pleasant School,

452
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Speaker 3: And so I got invited and I was going to go.

453
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Speaker 3: I was all excited about going. I think it was

454
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Speaker 3: ninth grade, maybe the eighth grade. A little dance and

455
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Speaker 3: there was a guy who was a good athlete that

456
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Speaker 3: was a relatively good athlete. He was a good athlete

457
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Speaker 3: from the school. The other school, big guy became friends.

458
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Speaker 3: But so I'm getting dressed and I didn't have a

459
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Speaker 3: shirt to wear. So my mother got my uncle's shirt,

460
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Speaker 3: who was a smaller man than my dad, and French

461
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: cuffs and rolled up the cuffs so who looked like

462
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Speaker 3: it fit? And I couldn't find my dad's. We couldn't

463
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Speaker 3: find my dad's cuff links. So my mom went and

464
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Speaker 3: got a nut in a bolt. I wondered why she

465
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Speaker 3: was down downstairs in the laundry room looking for it and

466
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Speaker 3: put him in. I said, Mom, I can't do this.

467
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Speaker 3: They'll make fun of me. I'll be embarrassed seeing anybody

468
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Speaker 3: comes up and says they do you look at them

469
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Speaker 3: and say, and here's what to say. This guy, Frank

470
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: came up to me and said, hey, look, adbye, look

471
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Speaker 3: what he's got here.

472
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Speaker 4: Hey?

473
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Speaker 3: And I looked at him and said, you don't have

474
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Speaker 3: a pair of these? And he said, well, yeah, yeah,

475
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Speaker 3: I got a pair. But I'm serious.

476
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Speaker 2: How do you assess people's motivations like you were just

477
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Speaker 2: saying that when you can understand someone's motivation, you can

478
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Speaker 2: almost disalm them without exposing them, which is what you

479
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: just gave that example of now, how do we do

480
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Speaker 2: that so that we go to the roots of it.

481
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Speaker 2: I think often we get it's so caught up in

482
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Speaker 2: what someone's what we think someone's thinking, or what we

483
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Speaker 2: think someone's saying, but actually going to the heart of

484
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Speaker 2: it and the root of it.

485
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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to explain. I get credit for

486
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: these days for sort of whole in the international community together,

487
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: and I try to understand what the circumstance the other

488
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Speaker 3: world leader is facing and see if there's a way

489
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Speaker 3: what needs to be done. Is the way through that

490
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Speaker 3: he doesn't or she doesn't have to make a great

491
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: sacrifice to do what she's doing, but help make the

492
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Speaker 3: case why they're helping others. But there's ways to do that,

493
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: and it's doesn't require the person if they have a

494
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: fundamental difference with you on a subject. But if they're

495
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: doing something because they don't have the political bandwidth to

496
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: be able to do it at home, you can provide it.

497
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Speaker 3: I will say to this leader sometimes, well why don't

498
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: you let me criticize you for this or thank you

499
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: for that, or And most of the time, now you

500
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: don't do off the top of your head. You got

501
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: to know some of these people. They'll go, okay, or

502
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: why don't you why why don't you criticize me? Why

503
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: don't you criticize me for my not doing something? And

504
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 3: then I'll respond and say okay, and then you can

505
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. It's just basic human nature.

506
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Speaker 3: But I think I think trying to figure out what

507
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Speaker 3: leeway a person has. I don't expect everybody to that

508
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with to appear in the second editions the

509
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Speaker 3: profiles and courage nor may. I mean, it's hard, but

510
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: there's ways you can work. Not always, but you can

511
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Speaker 3: work through things where you can allow the other person

512
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Speaker 3: to save face and still get to where you want

513
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Speaker 3: to go. Yes, and sometimes it works with your working

514
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: with two people, yes, to get that done. Yeah. But

515
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: it's just trying to figure out what is really what

516
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: impediments are in their way to keep them from being

517
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Speaker 3: able to do what you know, you feel in your gut,

518
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: you know they know they should do.

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Speaker 2: That's a great perspective. I'm so happy you said that,

520
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: because so many of us are fixated on what we

521
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: want out of something, or where we want to get to,

522
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: or what our challenges are. But mister President, I'm so

523
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Speaker 2: grateful for your graciousness and kindness in giving me this

524
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Speaker 2: time today. We end every on purpose interview with a

525
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Speaker 2: final five Oh and these final five questions are questions

526
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: we ask every guest, and there are some great ones

527
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Speaker 2: in here for you. So the first question I'm going

528
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: to ask you is what is the best advice you've

529
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Speaker 2: ever received? And what's the worst advice you've ever received.

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Speaker 3: I guess the best advice I've received is show up,

531
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: Just show up there and get up. My mother used

532
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: to say, Joey, get up, never bow, never been, never

533
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: get up, just get up. But showing up is just

534
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: that's a big part. And I guess the worst advice

535
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: I've ever received was holding a grudge, because lots of

536
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: times when people do something that is really not good,

537
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: it's because they were fearful and they did it, not

538
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: fearful of you, but their circumstance, and it gets you nowhere,

539
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: which means people doubt. Well, I'm really irish. The joke

540
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: inside was really irish, But all getting aside, remembering is important,

541
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: but holding a grudge is it's not helpful, very true,

542
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: very true. Fast.

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Speaker 2: I'm for both of those answers.

544
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Speaker 3: I love it. Okay.

545
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Speaker 2: Second question, a lot of Americans today are seeking therapy

546
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: as a form of support. Where does the president seek

547
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: support and guidance in your own challenges?

548
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: And Jenny, Well, my best friend is my wife, a

549
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: woman who has probably had more to do with my

550
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: success than anyone. Is my sister Valerie and my brother Jim,

551
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: And I think that's the place where I go most.

552
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: But also I have a great advantage over the years,

553
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: I've grown to have some great, great relationships with people

554
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: have worked with and or run of my staff. And

555
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: I think most of my staff would tell you the

556
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: senior staff is I don't treat them like they work

557
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: for me. I treat them which they are. They know

558
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: reason I hire them. I want them to know more

559
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: than I know. And there are some things that I

560
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: seek advice from a religious perspective, but that's really personal.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful, Okay, bad question. I believe it's been said

562
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: that you told your first wife when you met her

563
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: that you wanted to be or one day you would

564
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: be the president of the United States. Is that true?

565
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: No, it's not true. I love it. I read all

566
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: this what I did tell her, and I and the

567
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: same with no man deserves one great love, let alone

568
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: too for real. The two women that I married one

569
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: passed away were women I knew when I went out

570
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: with them the first time. I wanted to marry them.

571
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: My first wife, I told her when I met her.

572
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: We went to I went to I had eighty nine

573
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Speaker 3: dollars tax returned. I'm want five guys down to Florida,

574
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Speaker 3: and I don't drink. So I was bored with all this,

575
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: so I went to with three. I went to Nassau

576
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: for you could apply for twenty five bucks round trip.

577
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: And I met my deceased wife and I told her

578
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: when I hung out with her for four days down

579
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Speaker 3: there on the beach, and that I was going to

580
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: marry her, and she looked at me, said I think so.

581
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: And I started commuting every day every weekend when I

582
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: was a senior in college. That's how I up to Syracuse.

583
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: She's in there and my present wife was. It was

584
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Speaker 3: a blind date that my brother set up for us,

585
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: and I know what I saw her. I was on

586
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: that TEMOCLLS bachelor's list for five years. And it's not

587
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: a fun thing because there are a lot of it.

588
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. A lot of nice people, but

589
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: I've kind of given up on They're thinking I could

590
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: have us, and I got the blind date. I'll never fear.

591
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: My brother said, you'll like her. She doesn't like politics.

592
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Speaker 2: I'm glad I asked that question. Question number four. This

593
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Speaker 2: is very important to social media. So the question is

594
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: there are so many shows today based on the presidency,

595
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: the White House mirroring it shows on TV eaming platforms.

596
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Which one is the most accurate and which one is

597
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: the least accurate?

598
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Speaker 3: Mission impossible, the most the most look. I uh. One

599
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: of the problems I have is I don't and I should.

600
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: I don't watch much television. No, it's not because I'm

601
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: above it or anything like that. It's just that, For example,

602
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: for thirty six years after the accident occurred, and I

603
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: commuted every day three hundred miles a day, and the

604
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: press actually I had won. I got to know all

605
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: the conductors so well. I became friends. And one day

606
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: as Vice president, I was going home on the train,

607
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 3: which the secret surf doesn't like because there's so many

608
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: opportunities to interrupt the train. And this particular guy, I'm

609
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: not going to embarrass him and say his name. Company

610
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: grab me and cheek is Joey baby. I thought they're

611
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: going to shoot him any I said, no, no, he's He said,

612
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: I just read in the paper you traveled a million,

613
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand miles on air Force planes. Because I

614
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: have a list how many miles a travel on And

615
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: he said, big deal, he said, Joey, we had a

616
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: retirement dinner. He said, you know what you figured out?

617
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: You know how many miles you travel on Amtrak? I

618
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: said no. He said a million, two hundred thousand miles,

619
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Speaker 3: one hundred and nineteen days a year, three hundred days,

620
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: three hundred miles round trip, thirty six years plus. My

621
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: point was I was on the training lot, and so

622
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: when I get home, there wasn't much to watch. I

623
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: mean not it was the watch. But I'd always make sure,

624
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: I think, and I think you know all your guests

625
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: know this, that children need to know that they're the

626
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: most important thing in your life. So even if I

627
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 3: got home late, I'd climb in bed or my two

628
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: boys at the time, and just even if they were asleep,

629
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: and get up in the morning. And it wasn't like

630
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Ouzzie and Harriet. I wasn't fixing their breakfast but I'd

631
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: be there and have breakfast them, they'd take off for school.

632
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: I'd take off for the train. So I've been back

633
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: and forth so much. I haven't I just haven't watched

634
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: many problem And by the way, there's a lot of

635
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: good stuff, I'm sure. I mean, everyone's wanted to turn on.

636
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: And by the way, they got a great advantage here.

637
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: You got a movie theater and so yeah, and they

638
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: tell me, I get this list what movies are in

639
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: and we have the uh, the the new one, that's

640
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: the the Oppenheimer Oppenheimer.

641
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. They're the movies I

642
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: see these days. I get to see them at night

643
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: once in a while. Okay, very nice, amazing, all right.

644
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: Fifth and final question. We asked this question to every

645
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: guest has ever been on the show, but it truly

646
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: is unique asking you this question.

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Speaker 2: If you could create one law in the world that

648
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Speaker 2: everyone had to follow, what would it be.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a matter of being able to

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Speaker 3: have any one law that could change people's attitudes. I

651
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: think I'm optimistic. I think we have we're on the cusp.

652
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: We're in the time of real change, and we're an

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: inflection point. In moral history. Whether I'm president or not,

654
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: things are going to change drastically, and you see it

655
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: happening all around the world. We have an enormous opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But the thing I want to I could want to

657
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: change is American attitude that we can do anything. We

658
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: can do anything. There's nothing we've ever set our mind

659
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: that we've not been able to do. We've done together

660
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: for real. And so I laid out four things that

661
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: I thought were critically important in my stateud you know.

662
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: One was to make a fundamental change in cancer treatment.

663
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: We can cure that, and that's why we put another

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Speaker 3: six billion dollars. I mean, pick the impossible thing I have.

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Speaker 3: Caroline Kennedy gave me a copy of President Kennedy's. Part

666
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: of President Kennedy's speech when about going in the morning,

667
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: he said, because we refuse to postpone, we have to

668
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: refuse to postpone anymore. There's so oh much we can do,

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Speaker 3: and I mean it. I believe it with every fiber

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Speaker 3: in my baby. I've been doing this a long time

671
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: and I've never been more optimistic about our chances than now.

672
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 3: And that's why when I ran, I said, I ran

673
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: for three reasons one to restore the soul of America,

674
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: sense of decency, just the way we talk to one another. Secondly,

675
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: to build this country from the middle out and the

676
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: bottom up. The wealthy still do very well, but everybody

677
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: has a shot. And thirdly, to unite the country. And

678
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: I think we can do it. I really genuinely do.

679
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: But then again, as my offer referred to, I'm a

680
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: cock eyed optimist, but I really believe it.

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Speaker 2: Mister President, Thank you so much for the autum. I'm

682
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Speaker 2: so grateful. I have two tiny requests for you. I'd

683
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: love for you, if you don't mind, to walk me

684
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: through what's here, because I saw these beautiful pictures when

685
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: I walked in, and I thought they looked really special,

686
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: and I'd love to shad them this one.

687
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Speaker 3: My dad was a real gentleman and a well read man.

688
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: Never got a has to go to college. And he'd

689
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: always said, Joey, never explained, never complained. And so we

690
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: were having my fourth reelection effort as a senator in

691
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: the late nineties, and my dad was over at our

692
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: house to you know, to be there with me, and

693
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: I was standing on this back porch overlooking this pond.

694
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: I built a smaller home when the home we had

695
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: when everybody moved out. But it sits on a pond,

696
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: a ten acre pond. And I was saying, my deceased wife,

697
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: she lived in Lake Skinny Atlas and the finger legs beautiful.

698
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: She I said, you know, I wish nearly could have

699
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: seen this. And my dad thought, I was man, feel

700
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: sorry for myself. So he came. He said I'll be back,

701
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: and he took off, and he went up to the

702
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: local Hallmark store and came back with this cartoon. This

703
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: is his philosophy life. It's Hagar the horrible lightning strikes,

704
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: his boat's going down. He's looking up to God and

705
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: having to say why me. The next frame of voice

706
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: mevericans by why not? My dad always say, what makes

707
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: you so special? You don't have these problems. I'll put

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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: it down here. The other ones, there's a bunch there,

709
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 3: but one of my well, one of my favorite ones

710
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: is of that one. My son BeO. This is when

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00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: he came home from being a rack for a year

712
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: with his unit, and uh, this is his son. Little

713
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: Hunter got on his shoulders and wouldn't get off his shoulders,

714
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: just would not, I mean for hours, was on his shoulders.

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Speaker 3: The others are my mom and dad. My that's my daughter,

716
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: the love of my life, the life of my love. Anyway,

717
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot up there. I'm Beautiful'm pally born the

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Speaker 3: hell out of you.

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Speaker 2: It was wonderful to see them when I came in,

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Speaker 2: so thank you.

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, my dad really was one of

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Speaker 3: these guys, and it was about and so was my

723
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: mother's side of family. That family. My dad would say,

724
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Speaker 3: it's the beginning in the middle of the end. I

725
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 3: believe it is. I mean, I know what you're trying

726
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: to do is all those folks out there that are lonely,

727
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: all those folks out there that are feeling uneasy, all

728
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: those folks out there that aren't sure. I don't know.

729
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: I just just sometimes just reaching out it makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, mister president.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much. You're doing good work

732
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: for people. I really mean it. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That means the world coming from you, and I look

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Speaker 2: forward to many more conversations.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to