1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we have a lot to 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: talk about here today. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Garrett, in what has been. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: The wildest several days in Ravens franchise history, amidst the 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: wildest offseason in Ravens franchise history, the Ravens have reportedly 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: agreed to terms on a four year deal with pass 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: rusher Trey Hendrickson, one of the best in the game. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: That comes thirteen hours after a reported trade for Max 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Crosby fell through with the Las Vegas Raiders. So been 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: quite a turn of events here the past several the 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: past twelve hours, whatever, past twenty four hours, whatever it's been, 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: it's all blending together now, Garrett, let's start with the 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Max Crosby deal and what wasn't to be with the 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Well, look, we did podcast on this over the course 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: of the weekend and talking about the addition of Max 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: cross being the report of trade with the Rais reportedly 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: sending two first round picks to Vegas and getting Max 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Crosby in return. I mean, he's one of the best 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: defensive players in football, has been throughout his career, and 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of excitement about bringing him here. He 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 3: seemed to be excited about it. He posted his twelve 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: minute video about the excitement of him coming to Baltimore 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: or the end of his time in Vegas. Posted on 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Instagram about being in Baltimore, and clearly he was excited 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: about the possibility of coming here and joining this team. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: Something that we always say during this time, and it 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: kind of gets glossed over, is like it's nothing's official 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: until it's official, and we give that disclaimer, and then 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: you go on and talking about all the different reported 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: moves that are out there, but nothing is official until 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: it's official. 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: And that's why we say the word reported about one 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: hundred times per episode during this time of the year. 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: Like it's nothing's done until it's done. And the league 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: gear opens Wednesday at four o'clock. That's when deals, trades, 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: and contract signings become official. Everything up until that point 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: is agreed to terms, agreements, and principle. And so I 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: think that that's just an important disclaimer to note. 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: And another important disclaimer is that deals are not official 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: until the players involve passive physical and according to reports, 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: that is why the Ravens ended up saying no to 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: this deal is because, according to Malta reports, Max Crosby 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: failed his physical. 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: Upon coming here to Baltimore. So you know, there's. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: One thing is clear. The Ravens wanted Max Crosby, right, 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: they were willing to. They were totally out of character 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: in trading two first round picks to get him. According 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: to reports, even after Max Crosby reportedly failed his physical, 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens still tried to make things work. That's according 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: to Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network. So that shows 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you how bad the Ravens wanted Max Crosby. 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: And I genuinely believe that. 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I will say this again, the Ravens wanted Max Crosby. 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: That much is clear, right. I will also say that 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens have to do what's best for the Ravens. 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: And if you get a medical examination that shows that 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: there's potentially long term concerns for a player that you're 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: about to give up two first round picks for and 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: a massive long term contract, as much as it stinks 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: for all parties involved, the Ravens have to do what's 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: best for the Ravens. 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: Well. A couple of points. 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: One Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter have both noted this 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: that the failed physical reporting that's not necessarily a black 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: and white thing like pass fail. You don't get a 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: pass fail, great, It's here's a situation. Everyone knew that 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: he was coming off a knee injury last year and 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: had a meniscus and changuary exactly, and so everyone was 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: aware of that fact. So how is it progressing, what's 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: a long term prognosis, what's the short term prognosis? All 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: of that is basically part of the assessment. It's not 74 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: just pass fail necessarily, especially for a guy who's so 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: recently coming off of the anses. 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: And different doctors see it different ways. Every doctor is 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: the same. 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: One team's doctors could have little concern and the other 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: teams could have. 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: A lot of concern. 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: According to lots of different reports, the Ravens receive medical 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: input from multiple team doctors, including doctor Neil Latrosha who 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: did the surgery. 84 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And then including the Dallas Cowboys doctors. The Cowboys were 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: also reportedly in in these trade talks, right. 86 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: And so there's lots of reports of the medical conversations 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: going on there. 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: Like the comparison that I have for it is. 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: When you buy a house, you put the contract offer in, 90 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: then you get the inspection, and the inspection report comes 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: back and it tells. 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: You this looks good, this looks bad. 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: And sometimes the inspection report comes back and it's like, 94 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: we got a major issue here, you got cracks in 95 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: the foundation. Sometimes it's minor. Hey, you're gonna need to 96 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: patch up some things around the door here. Like there's 97 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: different scales there, and based on your level of risk 98 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: assessment and willingness to go down one of those paths, 99 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: that's how you make the decision. And so like, that's 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: it's all part of the consider that a team has 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 3: to make. And that goes back to my original point, 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: which is nothing's official until it's official, and medical checks 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: are part of a process for any trade or for 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: any free agent signing. That is part of the evaluation 105 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: process that teams go through, and that's how you ultimately 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: land on your decision. 107 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good comparison. 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a major investment, right if you're going to 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: buy a house, if you're going to sign Max Crosby 110 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: to this deal and give up with the Ravens, We're 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: going to give up it's a major deal, and so, 112 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens, if you don't feel like Max 113 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Crosby is going to be the kind of player that 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: he has been moving forward in the short term or 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: long term, then it's understandable that that would give you 116 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: some major pause, especially considering what you're giving up. And 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: so you know, again, I think the Ravens, they have 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: to do what's best for them. I'm sure they didn't 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: want They did not. 120 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Want to do this. 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: It just stinks across the board, and so I'm I'm 122 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: sure it's not something that the Ravens wanted to do well. 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: Ian Rappaport reported that the Ravens, even after going through 124 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: the medical checks, tried to keep the deal together in 125 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: some capacity and so that's unclear exactly what that means 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: that the offer change, Like what change and how did 127 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: you try to keep it together? Don't really know, but 128 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: that they continue trying to work towards that and so 129 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: that's like an important I think distinction there that, like 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: they accord according to his reporting and his sources, they 131 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: tried to maintain this deal going through. 132 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: Look, we were all excited about. 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: Max Crosby, like it's again, he's one of the best 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: players in football, and he seems to fit the Ravens 135 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: the way they like to play and what they need 136 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: and all of that, and so it's disappointing on that front. 137 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: And the other piece too. 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: You mentioned Trey Hendrickson in which we're going to talk 139 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: about him in more detail here, but Adam Schefter reported 140 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: that the Ravens actually had conversations with Trey Hendrickson about 141 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: pairing him with Max Crosby, right. That was something that 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: Adam Schefter said this morning, that there was a possibility 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: of both of them coming here to Baltimore. Now it 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: ends up being Hendrickson according to these reports, and so 145 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's a great players we're going to 146 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: talk about, but that was part of the the idea, 147 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: at least from what Schefter was reporting, is that the 148 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: possibility was there for both of them. The conversations were 149 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: there about that. 150 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: That would have been insane. Yeah, that would have been 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: quite a defensive front for the Ravens, and like, you know, 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that that didn't come to fruition. You know, 153 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I think I think there's a lot of people that 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: probably feel that way. The Ravens had to make the 155 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: best decision with the information that they had. And let's 156 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: also say, like, yeah, reportedly the Cowboys were part of 157 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: that and whatnot. But the Ravens have the most information, 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: right and the Raiders and the raid or whoever, the 159 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Ravens had the most information. And so 160 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, you see these reports of other general managers 161 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, weighing in on this, Well, yeah, sure, 162 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: it's easy for them to disparage the Ravens. They're their competition, right, 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: and they don't have the information. So I don't really 164 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: put much stock into that personally, you know, Like, and 165 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: so the Ravens have the most information, they made the 166 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: decision for what's best for them, and you know, and 167 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: different doctors and teams have different risk. 168 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: That amounts of risks that they're willing. 169 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: To take different levels of tolerance as it comes to exactly. 170 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: And this isn't something that's unheard of. This happens from 171 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: time to time around the league. It's rare, but it 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: happens from time to time around the league. It's happened 173 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: here in Baltimore, It's happened with other teams as well. 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: This is obviously getting a ton of attention because of 175 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: the magnitude of the trade and the star player involved, 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: which honestly it should have even be the medicals should 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: be under even a bigger magnifying glass because of that, right, 178 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: Like it's not like, oh, well, you should have gone 179 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: through with it because oh my gosh, it's a star player, 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: are such a big deal. No, you should definitely go 181 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: through it with the fines youth comb and so this 182 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: is going to continue to get a lot of attention. 183 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I believe that the Ravens, you know, according to reports. 184 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: I believe the reports that they saw something that they 185 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: didn't like medically and felt like this was not a 186 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: good deal for them. 187 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: So then they quickly pivot to Trey Hendrickson and bringing 188 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: him into Baltimore. And the reported deal for him is 189 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: four years, one hundred and twelve million dollars. Base salary 190 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: incentives are a piece of that sixty million guaranteed is 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: what Adam. 192 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: Schefter is reporting up to one twenty. 193 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Up to one twenty incentives based on sack totals, so 194 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: those increase eight, ten, twelve, It goes up based on 195 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: the number of. 196 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: Sacks that he gets. 197 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: And look, Trey Hendrickson, by many accounts was maybe the 198 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: best player on the market. And this is a guy 199 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: that's put up seventeen sacks multiple times in his. 200 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Career, seventeen and a half sacks in twenty three and 201 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty four back to back seasons. He led the league 202 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: in sacks in twenty four. 203 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: He's coming, he's coming off season where he had four 204 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 3: sacks last year. I had in seven games because of 205 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: a core muscle injury that limited his time last season. 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to pass the physical in order we 207 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: can talk about this. Of course, that needs to be 208 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: crossed off as well, another player coming off injury. But 209 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about maybe he was one of 210 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: the best defense players in the market. I mean, I 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say he was the best pass rusher. 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: On the market. I mean, if you look at a 213 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: sack production, I mean, hard to rival him. Since twenty 214 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: twenty one. 215 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: He ranked second in the NFL and pressure rate at 216 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: thirteen point two percent and fourth in sacks with sixty 217 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: one since twenty one. And that's given a half of 218 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: a season, really less than half of a season last year. 219 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: So this is a premier pass rusher. I think some 220 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: of the questions are, you know, age he's in his thirties, 221 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: and you know, and he's coming off of this core 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: muscle surgery reportedly, And so those are some of the 223 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: questions with Trey Hendrickson. But gosh, the Ravens have seen 224 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: it over the past several years. What kind of monster 225 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: he can be in getting after your quarterback? 226 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's he is a pass rush expert. 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: That is what he does best. Different player than Crosby. 228 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: Crosby somebody plays one hundred percent of snaps and never 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: comes off the field, where Hendrickson, I mean, he defends 230 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: the run as well, but his specialty is getting out 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 3: of the quarterback. His specialty is pass rush. And the 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: Ravens needed, I mean, that's the biggest need on the 233 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: on this on this team is pass rush. 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: Right. 235 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: If one thing is clear, the Ravens were willing to 236 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: They went all out to try to upgrade this pass rush. 237 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean the reports that they were going after both 238 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Crosby and Trey Hendrickson alone, that's who aggressive they. You know, 239 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: at first, were willing to give up two first round picks, 240 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: which they had never given up one in franchise history 241 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: to trade for a player. Now, this Trey Hendrickson deal 242 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: according to the figures, is the biggest free agent signing 243 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: in Ravens history for an outside free agent. 244 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: Like, let's not. 245 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Gloss over this fact because of the whirlwind of the 246 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Crosby trade falling through and whatnot, Like it's it's hard 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: to kind of wrap your head around it. But this 248 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: is the most aggressive free agent signing in Ravens history, 249 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: the biggest free agent, most accomplished guy that they've ever 250 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: brought in from outside. Is a major, major move. And 251 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: so one thing is clear that the Ravens were willing 252 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: to break character to address this pass rush and be 253 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: aggressive first with trade, but with draft picks now with money, 254 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, and they don't usually go out and get 255 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: the biggest fish on the market. They most likely canceled 256 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the third round compensatory pick that they were going to 257 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: get for Tyler Linnbaum and going and getting Trey Hendrickson 258 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: like which they usually protect those. 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: And so very aggressive for the Ravens. 260 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to upgrade this pass rush. 261 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: And I think that when you look back last season 262 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: and some of the struggles of the defense, fourth quarter 263 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: collapses and giving up leads. What's the common denominator and 264 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: the biggest one was in a lot of ways not 265 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: being able to get after the quarterback and affect the quarterback. 266 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: Enough, especially in key situations, And. 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: So you need players to do that who can go 268 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: at and just win their matchups, come up with big plays, 269 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: come up with sacks, strip sacks, all of that. And 270 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: Hendrickson is absolutely a guy that can do that. And 271 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: so the Ravens I think they went into this offseason saying, like, 272 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: something that we need to address on this team is 273 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: a defensive front and the ability to get. 274 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: After the quarterback. 275 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: And it's been clear in the way that they've operated 276 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: that that has been priority number one for them and 277 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: building this roster going into next season. They want to 278 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: give Jesse Minter and Anthony Weaver and this new coaching 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: staff guys that can get after the quarterback and affect 280 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: the game in that way. And we all know how 281 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: valuable that is and so hard to argue against that approach, 282 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: and it's what they need. 283 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: The bonus is that you're also taking a rivals star 284 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: play it right. I mean he was with the Bengals, 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: couldn't get a con tracked extension or a trade done 286 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: with the Bengals, which he had publicly made those demands 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: very clear. Wasn't happening there. So he finally hit the 288 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: free agent market and the Ravens pounced. And now the 289 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Bengals went out and brought in another pass rush of 290 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: their own, getting boy A Mafe from the Seattle Seahawks. 291 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: But he hasn't had the production that Trey Hendrickson has. 292 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: So you know, taking a star player away from a 293 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: rival is always a good thing. And Trey Henderson now 294 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: gets to go try to sack Joe Burrow twice a year, 295 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: So I like the sounds of that. 296 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he's gonna be motivated against And they 297 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: they were publicly locked in a contract dispute really for 298 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: better part of a year. The Bengals, at a big 299 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: pitcher level, made the decision to spend the money on 300 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: the offense. They spent money on keeping both of the 301 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: receivers to mar chasen C Higgins and of course have 302 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: signed Joe Burrow. They invested on the offensive side of 303 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: the ball with the big money, and they didn't want 304 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: to spend the money on the defensive side to the 305 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: level that a player of Hendrickson's caliber deserves. And so 306 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: he hits the market. The Ravens pounce and they upgrade 307 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: their pass rush in a big way. 308 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Well, and reportedly there were a number of teams interested 309 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: in Trey Hendrickson's services, the Indianapolis Colts, the Philadelphia Eagles, 310 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: among others, and so he had an active market, ended 311 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: up taking a couple few what day is it now? 312 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Days after free agency technically opened the legal tampering period 313 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: of and on Monday. We're now a Wednesday, and this 314 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: deal is reportedly getting done when a bunch of pass 315 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: rushers got paid before him, and so, you know, I 316 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: think he's going to be motivated by that as well. 317 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: There are people who doubt that, you know, at thirty 318 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: one years old, how much does Trey Hendrickson have left 319 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: and how much can he have that elite seventeen and 320 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: a half, you know, sac production moving forward. So he's 321 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to come in here with something 322 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: to prove as well, not just when he plays against 323 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals, but against everybody who you know, they didn't 324 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: they didn't sign him for what some other guys got. 325 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Hunter got forty million a year for 326 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: one year, and you know, so the Ravens got a 327 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: deal done reportedly with Trey Henderson for similar money, a 328 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: little bit less than the Max Crosby deal would have gotten. 329 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: So now this is a big time edition. The Ravens 330 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: leader in sacks in a single season was Elvis Dumerville 331 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen was seventeen in one year. 332 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: So can Trey hendrickson top that. 333 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: That's a lofty goal, But he said he's done seventeen 334 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: and a. 335 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Half twice exactly quite recently, so. 336 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: The possibility is there. So we'll take a quick break 337 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: and we come back. We'll dive into some of the 338 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: other conversation taking place on the free agent carousel. Right now, 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: you're listening to the Lines podcast. 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Now. 344 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: In the midst of all the Max Crosby news on 345 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: Tuesday night, there was another move that happened that really 346 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: flew out of the radar because the sports world the 347 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: NFL were all focused on the Crosby dwes. 348 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: But I started writing this story up and then I 349 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: quickly picked. 350 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: You shifted your attention. 351 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: Uh. But Pat Ricard, longtime raven uh, one of our 352 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: favorite guys, long time front of the lounge, is headed 353 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: up to the New York Giants on a two year deal, 354 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 3: making him the highest paid fullback in NFL history. Pat 355 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 3: has been a mainstay here. Uh, somebody that like we 356 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: talk about guys stories. His is maybe one of the 357 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: most impressive undrafted defensive lineman out of Maine. Reinvents himself 358 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: as a fullback, turns out to be one of the 359 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: best in the league, does something that nobody else does 360 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: as a three hundred pounds full back and has been. 361 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: Player for a second and then like two years. 362 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it quickly became this guy is just 363 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: so good at full back just to keep him over 364 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: there and has been an anchor in the best rushing 365 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: attack in the league for the for the majority of 366 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: his time here in Baltimore. 367 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so, Tip of the Captive project, Pat, Uh, Pancake, Pat, 368 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: all the nicknames, you know. 369 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Nine great years here, multiple. 370 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, and so it's it's always a bummer to 371 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: see a player like that leave. And he had made 372 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: it clear when he came on the Lounge a year 373 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: ago about this time that he wanted to retire a 374 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Raven and play his whole career here. And you know, 375 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: but this is what happens when change comes. And so 376 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: no surprise that he follows John Harball to New York. 377 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: As now he's the fourth player to reportedly do so, 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: joining Isaiah Likely, Jordan Stout, and Art Areas Washington. And 379 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: so these are some of Harball's guys, you know. And 380 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: and he's I'm sure made his case clear up in 381 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: New York for who he wants to bring up there. 382 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: And the other component is the Ravens are going to 383 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: have a new offense under Declan Doyle, and it remained 384 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: to be seen how much he would use a fullback. 385 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: This is a pretty year clear indication that he doesn't 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: plan to use one, which the Chicago Bears did not 387 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: have a true fullback on their roster last year. That 388 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: he would use tight ends and other creative ways to 389 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of create those angles in their in their run game, 390 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: in blocking, but it was unlikely that he was going 391 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: to remake kind of what his offense has been to 392 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: fit pat Ricard into it. 393 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a question honestly, it's been a question 394 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: every time the Ravens would changed off as a coordinator. 395 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: It was a question when they hired Todd Mounkin to 396 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: replace Greg Roman. Of course they kept him. It's been 397 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: a question again as Decly Doyle going to use a 398 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: full back. 399 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Now, it's one thing if you already have a fullback 400 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: under contract, yeah, then you would of course tweak and 401 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: evolve your offense to accommodate the players that you have. 402 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: But when he's not under contract, it's a different story. 403 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: And according to reports and Jeremy Fowler, the Ravens were 404 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: really not in the negotiations or the bidding for pat 405 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Ricard's services, but the Cleveland Browns were, and Todd Munkin 406 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: and Travis Switzer their offensive coordinator, both coming from the Ravens, obviously, 407 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: so very clear that that was not the direction the 408 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: Ravens were going to go offense. 409 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: I honestly think it's less about having a guy under contract, 410 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: because it's not like Pat's he's the highest paid fullback, 411 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: but full back aren't making pass rusher money. It's less 412 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: it's less about it's more about the type of offense 413 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: that they want to run and the players that they have. 414 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 3: The thing for me is like it's less of a 415 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: fullback conversation. It's kind of goes back to the tight 416 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: end situation. Because pat could be used as an inline blocker, 417 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: they would use him as fullback and a tight end. 418 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: He was in that tight end room. 419 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: And they also lost Isaiah Likely and Charlie Kolart and 420 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: now pat Riccard and so he was connected to the 421 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: tight ends. And that's just an overall it's just a 422 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: complete overhaul of that group. And the Ravens are gonna 423 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: have to go to work there in free agency based 424 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: on guys who are left. And we said this a 425 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: few different times, the double dip at tight end in 426 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: the draft, just just lock it in, just put it 427 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: in ink right now. 428 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think it was. 429 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: It was a change from the running game that Derrick 430 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Henry had been used to in Tennessee when he came 431 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. 432 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: Having a fullback was different. In Tennessee. 433 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: It was single back out from under center, handed off 434 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry and know stretch zone stuff, outside runs, 435 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: all those tosses, all those things. So there was an 436 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: adjustment period. It obviously worked out pretty darn well. Dereck 437 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Henry Head has had two fantastic seasons the past two years. 438 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: But this could this running game could look a little 439 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: bit more similar to what he used to run in 440 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee than what it has been the past two years 441 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: with a shotgun pistol fullback kind of run scheme. 442 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: Well we I I do think this potential for the 443 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: Raves to use Lamar Jackson under center more with Decklen 444 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: Doyle on this new offense. And if you're going that route, 445 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: maybe you're using less of the fullback. And so that's 446 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: it's all part of a it's all part of a 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 3: scheme evolution. And again Pat then goes up and he 448 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: stays with Harbaugh, and you know, they've got clearly a 449 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: great relationship and Harball. 450 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Was a guy that Pat and Cam Scattaville is interesting. 451 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: It is that'll be. 452 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: Fun and and like you know, when your head coach 453 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: leaves and go somewhere else, he's gonna be guys with him. 454 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: He's gonna bring guys on the coaching staff, he's gonna 455 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: bring players with him. 456 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: And that's what's happened. There's been a there's been you know, an. 457 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: Exodus to a certain extent of of players and coaches 458 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: who have gone with Harball to New York. 459 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ravens West out in LA with Joe Ortiz and 460 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Uh, we had Ravens, we have Ravens North. 461 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: Now obviously with the Giants. 462 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: There was another Ravens. 463 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 3: About Ravens Midwest with with the with the Browns of 464 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: Todd Monkin going there. 465 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, now the Ravens Midwest, but there was another 466 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: team that was taking a ton of Ravens players that 467 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on. 468 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chargers for sure, and they can they you know, 469 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: they've continued with that and then and then of course 470 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: up in New York, Uh there and Hardball there. 471 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: So that's been a big piece of the change. 472 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 473 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: The other news too. 474 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: We haven't really talked about this, but quickly you mentioned 475 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: our Darius Washington. Ravens got a need at safety. Now 476 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: our Darius Washington goes up with Harball. I always felt 477 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 3: like our Darius and Patrick Carr were two guys that 478 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: would not surprise me at all if they went with Hardball. 479 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 4: It's just kind of they. 480 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: Were They were him and seemed like kind of culture 481 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: fits for what he wants to build there. And then 482 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: Alohi Gilman goes out and signs a deal with the 483 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, a three year contract twenty four million dollars. 484 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: So he gets that contract. Both players on that trade 485 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: ended up getting contracts. Gilman goes out to Kansas City, 486 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Dafayoe actually is coming back East playing for the Commanders. 487 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 3: Signed a one hundred million dollar contract with them for 488 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: year on hundred million dollar contract. So both those guys, 489 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: that was a trade that generally worked out for both sides. 490 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: They both benefited and cashed in handsomely. 491 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't like to see a Lohi Gilman land with 492 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: the arrival in the Chiefs, but thank him for his 493 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: services here in Baltimore after the deadline. 494 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: I thought he was a good player. 495 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, to your point, the Ravens need safety help. 496 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: They want to use three safeties. They will use three 497 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: safeties a lot in jesse Minner's defense. That is part 498 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: of the philosophy with Kyle Hamilton to free him up 499 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: to play close to the line of scribbage and all 500 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: over this Ravens defense. Jesse Or will use Kyle Hampton 501 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: a very versatile role, just like he used Irwin James 502 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: in a very versatile role in LA And so the 503 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: need to bring in a veteran safety, and I believe 504 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: a veteran is what is in order because you need 505 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: a plug and play player. A Lohi Gillman played ninety 506 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: eight percent of the Ravens defensive snaps after coming here, 507 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: So whoever you bring in is going to see a 508 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: lot of action. Uh maybe not ninety eight percent, but 509 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot. And so I think 510 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: you need a veteran who has experienced so you can 511 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: trust to plug in there immediately because you're not going 512 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: to draft one again. Hi, they just spent a first 513 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: round pick on malc I Starks last year and so, uh, which, 514 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: by the way, we get to talk about having a 515 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: first round pick against that's. 516 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: Kinda draft this year again. I know you were taking 517 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: take the first off. 518 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: We literally yesterday had a meeting about this and we 519 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: were like, what are we gonna do on draft Day? 520 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: We're just gonna be talking about Max Crosby and you 521 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: know how many people need to be here. 522 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back in. 523 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited. Quite frankly, I'm excited about it. Yeah. 524 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: So so anyway, Yeah, I think the Ravens will sign 525 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: a veteran. There's a number of guys that are out 526 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: there on the market, and yeah, it'll be interesting to 527 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: see how they address that need because it is a 528 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: big one. 529 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: Well, as we've seen things happen quickly change as part 530 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: of free agency here and we are going to continue 531 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: to just break down all of it. You can email 532 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: us as the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net 533 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: will continue discussing everything that happens over the course of 534 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: the next few days. Thank you for watching and listening, 535 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: and we'll be back with you again soon