WEBVTT - Chapter 10: We're All Mad Here

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<v Speaker 1>Hayley. The listeners take Torres here. Stay tuned for the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode of Lethal Lit. But first, here's a quick

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<v Speaker 1>word from our sponsor. That's right, Dan, we have just

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<v Speaker 1>learned that the death of local business man Brock Montague

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<v Speaker 1>had been ruled a homicide. Hold on, I believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to get a statement. Detectives have connected Mr. Montague's

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<v Speaker 1>death to one of the local residents, Stephanie Reed, age

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<v Speaker 1>six one, mis read passed early yesterday morning. Autopsies of

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<v Speaker 1>both victims have revealed that the cause of death was voison. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Ms thom Is it also true that both victims were

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<v Speaker 1>found with a music box nearby. Yes, both were in

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<v Speaker 1>possession of either an original or replica Montague Hotel centinial music.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Hollow Falls home to get another serial killer. We

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<v Speaker 1>cannot confirm that. Thank you, I can confirm it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome. I'm tig Torres and this is Lethal Lit.

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Montague was a millionaire businessman who returned to Hollow

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<v Speaker 1>Falls to add to his fortune and play the role

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<v Speaker 1>of hometown hero. Stephanie Reid was an antique stealer, first

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<v Speaker 1>in line at every estate sale in the area, who

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<v Speaker 1>would then gossip about whatever she found in the homes

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<v Speaker 1>of the recently deceased. Brock and Stephanie didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have anything in common, but they had to. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>play about a con man who knocks on a door

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<v Speaker 1>in a fancy neighborhood. A couple of answers, and the

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<v Speaker 1>con man claims to be a friend of their children's.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple befriends him, lets him stay there, lends him money.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's revealed he's lying. The title of the place,

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<v Speaker 1>six degrees of separation is the idea that all people

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<v Speaker 1>are six or fewer social connections away from one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and Stephanie, being victims of the same murderer, had

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<v Speaker 1>only two degrees of separation. They both knew their killer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was time to find that first degree. Ouilla, you

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<v Speaker 1>know everything about this town. Can you think of any

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<v Speaker 1>possible connection between Stephanie and Brock Montague? Anything at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Just another two people who stopped talking to me long

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<v Speaker 1>before everything with your owned debate? Is there anyone you

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<v Speaker 1>can ask? Dick not now lit the dead rest? I

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<v Speaker 1>tried another angle. Come on, Max, there must be something.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back to square one here. Montague was my boss's boss.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I can do a little research after hours

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<v Speaker 1>to see what I can find, and I can ask

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<v Speaker 1>around and try to learn more about Stephanie. While they

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<v Speaker 1>were hunting for connections, I had to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>mind of the killer. Did death by Stryck nine have

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<v Speaker 1>any historical significance? Well, that's how Agae Christie would kill

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<v Speaker 1>people off in our stories. Come, you're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>let Killer. You think someone's trying to send him a message?

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<v Speaker 1>Just the kind of dat? How do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to I'm at a dead end here, two dead

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<v Speaker 1>and no leads. I need any information I can get,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it comes from him. You're gonna go talk

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<v Speaker 1>to liven him? Were you not? I promise me you

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<v Speaker 1>won't go see him stronger than you think in your head. Okay, Okay, Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. It's a crazy idea. I promise. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>lying to my friends all this time about Ali, so

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't I lie to Ali about this? We have

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<v Speaker 1>to go and see Levinson. Terrible idea. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll drive. Last year I was responsible for putting Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Levinson behind bars for the rest of his life. The

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<v Speaker 1>prospect of seeing him again, had my stomach twisted and knots.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately I had my best friend by my side. What

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't talk or he gives us a silent treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Levinson would pass up an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>taunt us. Do you think we can actually get anything

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<v Speaker 1>out of him? Maybe if we appeal to his vanity,

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<v Speaker 1>ask for his expert analysis, tease him into revealing his

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<v Speaker 1>profound psychological insights. Stroke is literary intellect gross revolting? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay with all this? Oh? Seeing Levinson again? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding for sure? You're not like scared? Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can get intense with this stuff, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I just assume you want to do crazy things with me.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is kind of insane. I mean, it's Levinson. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do crazy things with you. What

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<v Speaker 1>just the way that sounded? How did it sound? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know? Kind of hot? Oh well you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hot yourself. I am scared? Yeah, me too. How about

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<v Speaker 1>some music? Yeah? Crank on? So you almost kissed me

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<v Speaker 1>last night? Is that what happened? Because it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>you almost kissed me? No, you were definitely the initiator

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<v Speaker 1>from where I was sitting. Weird. Must have been my

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<v Speaker 1>mind playing tricks on me again, silly rabbit. I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to kiss you, so why didn't you? I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on the way to sit face to face with

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<v Speaker 1>a serial killer. You put away and you stop? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Seriously, I don't. I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes that you can read me like a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah maybe if the book were in let. Okay, kissing

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<v Speaker 1>you means our friendship will change, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to lose what we have. We could have something different,

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<v Speaker 1>though better even, But what if it's not. You're my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend and I'm nervous I'll lose my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>if if tag I got it message received? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>hate me only when you ask me insulting questions like that? There?

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<v Speaker 1>It is hollow falls prison. Oh I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be sick. Hey, stop that. You're the girl who put

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<v Speaker 1>this dude in here, tig freaking torres of lethal lit fame.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got this mm hmm. Wow that was nice, dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah nice, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're coming in with

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<v Speaker 1>me right, I'll be right there by your side, not

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<v Speaker 1>on the visitor's list. I can't see an inmate unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a visitors list. And how do I get

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<v Speaker 1>on the visitors list? Well, inmate has should prove you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I get him to approve me? If I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get in to talk to him in the first place?

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<v Speaker 1>Please step to the side, next name, take Torres, Empty

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<v Speaker 1>the contents of your pockets and place them the locker.

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<v Speaker 1>Take you're in, Levinson. Put you on the list. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess do you have ten minutes walked to the red

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<v Speaker 1>line when the alarm sounds, proceed through the door. Hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know. Hey, you don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>this alone. You know we can try again together some

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<v Speaker 1>other time. It's now or never. I'll be right here

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<v Speaker 1>when you get out. Hey, just remember you take Torres.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks win. Yeah, m sit over there. M m m

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<v Speaker 1>m m te Torres Levinson, thank god you're here. You

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea how happy I am to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been bored out of my mind. The discourse at

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<v Speaker 1>meals is abysmal. There's an occasional creative comment regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>dairy air of a certain laundry lady, but the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it pure Drivel. I don't imagine you were put

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<v Speaker 1>here for the rest of your life for the stimulating conversation. Touche,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's you and I talk. Tell me Ms Torres

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<v Speaker 1>reading anything interesting lately. I'm not here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>books with you, Levinson. I'm here to talk about murder,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the newest murders in Hollow Falls. Oh yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>music box killer unimaginative. I would consider two unsolved murders

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<v Speaker 1>to be pretty important. Take The truth is that the

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<v Speaker 1>world is read in tooth and claw, and you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely you've read Nietzsche. I've read Nietzsche. But that's Tennyson.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sweet uncle, I'm starving for companionship of your caliber.

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<v Speaker 1>I know something that hasn't been fully released to the

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<v Speaker 1>press yet, a clue that I think might have literary

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<v Speaker 1>over tones. Both of the victims were poisoned, but I

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<v Speaker 1>read the reports and in both cases it was specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Strict nine, and Strict nine is often featured in the

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<v Speaker 1>stories of Agatha Christie. Agatha Christie, well, then that makes you,

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<v Speaker 1>miss Marvel. Did they make you check your shawl at security?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that the killer might be following in your footsteps.

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<v Speaker 1>And re enacting Christie's stories. Please, how could I inspire

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<v Speaker 1>someone to re enact Agatha christie syrupy mysteries. Frankly, they

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<v Speaker 1>might as well use murder, she wrote, or Dora the

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<v Speaker 1>Explorer's inspiration. Christie could craft at tidy plot, but she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything about blood lust. Anyone who works off

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<v Speaker 1>her templatures beneath much attempt. She is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular detective writers of all time. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that was popular. I would think you would have learned

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<v Speaker 1>your lesson about following what is popular. You're not popular,

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<v Speaker 1>are you. I'd hate to think that I'm in prison

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of my life because of a popular girl.

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<v Speaker 1>In regards to the murders, you are clearly grasping at straws.

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<v Speaker 1>I have other ideas, such as what I would talk everlasting?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Tuck everlasting? Really? Well, it's children's literature, so

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<v Speaker 1>not quite my cup of tea. But surely you recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the music box, no getting sloppy tig. Well, it's a symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>But the book is about the choice between normality and immortality,

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<v Speaker 1>the choice that faces people like us dig the exceptional.

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<v Speaker 1>It hardly put us in the same category wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>There are very few people in this world with the

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<v Speaker 1>power to have a real effect on the course of

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<v Speaker 1>human history, who can alter the course of the river

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<v Speaker 1>of time, who can leave even a bend with their

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<v Speaker 1>name on it. Most people spend a lifetime trying to

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<v Speaker 1>create even the merest of ripples, soon erased by the

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<v Speaker 1>correct but not me. The why is a material. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is in the history books, and yours could be too,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you embrace your exceptionality. The why matters

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<v Speaker 1>Levinson more than the if I'm not like you. Tuck

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<v Speaker 1>Everlasting was also about nature versus civilization. Sometimes ms I

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<v Speaker 1>dream that I'm a lion living amongst sheep, and each

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<v Speaker 1>time I express one of my true instincts, the sheep

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<v Speaker 1>gather round to try to convince me I'm really one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and the anger builds up inside me, the

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<v Speaker 1>rage at being asked to violate my nature just slay

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<v Speaker 1>handful of sheep can sleep comfortably at night. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I think. It's more than just a dream.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the restless voice of my soul communicating to me,

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<v Speaker 1>telling me you are not This serial murder is the

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<v Speaker 1>discharge of profound irrational old forces in need of relief.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes from the heart of the tormented, not the head.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Christie wouldn't understand. Neither would Natalie bat It.

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<v Speaker 1>But your murders were exceptionally well thought out, rationally executed.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't fits of passion. I'll confess to a taste

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<v Speaker 1>for presentation, certainly, but well fought out. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as rational. I've learned a great deal about

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<v Speaker 1>myself here in this dismal place. Take I've even found

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of peace in a way I can finally

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<v Speaker 1>accept what I am. And what's that? Don't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's a copycat out there? Maybe someone

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<v Speaker 1>trying to impress you for their sake? I hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>What's next winning my affection is the Danielle Steel strangler,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nicholas Sparks stalker. Oh, thank you, tig, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh. I'll come right to the point, Levinson. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a little coincidental that there's a second killer

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<v Speaker 1>on the loose. I think you're either behind it or

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<v Speaker 1>know something about who is. Let's be very clear about something, Tick,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the only killer. Back off convict. My apologies,

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<v Speaker 1>my apologies. She is in no danger. It will not

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<v Speaker 1>happen again. The mold was broken with me understand sloppy thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>not like you, Tig be honest. Who suggested this to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Ali? What? No? Why would you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>How is Ali? How would I know? M He's really

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<v Speaker 1>being quite anxious to talk love sick? You know? Guard,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done here, Ms Torres. Why do you suppose this

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<v Speaker 1>killer of yours uses poison? Tell me he uses poison

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<v Speaker 1>so that he doesn't have to watch his victims died?

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<v Speaker 1>Should you be sure to tell all Ali? I said hi,

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<v Speaker 1>next time you speak to him. Oh, take, I did misquote?

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<v Speaker 1>Needs you before? Here's one to take the heart. Whoever

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<v Speaker 1>fights monsters should see to it that in the process

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<v Speaker 1>she does not become a monster. He definitely said that

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<v Speaker 1>one tota m hm m h. Hey Lee, the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned more Ley the lid is up next, But

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<v Speaker 1>first a quick word from our sponsor, Hey Lee, the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>take Torres here. There's always more to the mystery, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could use your help getting to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Join us on Instagram and TikTok at I am Tig

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<v Speaker 1>Torres for more clues and inside Info. Since this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing started, Winn had been pushing for Ali as a

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<v Speaker 1>serious suspect. But I've been ignoring her, Levinson had me.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely missed the tuch everlasting connection to the music box.

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<v Speaker 1>What else was I ignoring or overlooking? Ali? Is? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you should just listen for yourself. Sometimes I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm even thinking my own thoughts or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>Levinson in there. It wasn't always like this. I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was little, he taught me how to

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<v Speaker 1>throw football. He even took me fishing a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he never laid a hand on me. Back then,

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<v Speaker 1>he had this shoe box of pictures, really messed up pictures, murders,

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<v Speaker 1>some more photos. Others were cut out from the newspapers.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to look through his box when he wasn't around.

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<v Speaker 1>The one day he caught me with it open on

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<v Speaker 1>my bed and he went nuts. He threw me down

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs, broke my arm, and he taught me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was gonna kill me. He would into

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen to get something I don't know, the knife,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I thought that it was cool this collection.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked some questions. I asked him how we learned

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<v Speaker 1>to tie such good knots. He looked at me differently

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<v Speaker 1>after that. He smiled and untied me, put his arm

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<v Speaker 1>around me, and made me a sling for my arm.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when this whole nightmare started, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>me into his apprentice. It was the only way I

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<v Speaker 1>could stay with him. I didn't want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the foster system. Killing you take that was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a show of my gratitude. He kept telling

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<v Speaker 1>me how proud he was going to be. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff, but I have to tell you this. I

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<v Speaker 1>still want to please him. He's in me. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who I am. You're the only

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<v Speaker 1>when I think of you, I can find my way

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<v Speaker 1>out of the hell that is my brain. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you what Levinson said about Ali kept picking

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<v Speaker 1>at me as we drove back from the prison. But

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<v Speaker 1>was it what Levinson said or was it my own guilt?

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<v Speaker 1>Was he wearing one of those orange jumpsuits? Did did

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<v Speaker 1>he have a prison? Taty, you're pretty quiet? Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>all right? When I have to tell you something, Tig,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm glad you guys are here, Ella and I

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<v Speaker 1>have news. It seems our friend Stephanie used to work

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<v Speaker 1>at the Montague. We knew it used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic reform school before it was shut down for girls

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<v Speaker 1>sent by wealthy parents to hide embarrassing pregnancies. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were digging around for records. There was a list of

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<v Speaker 1>the nuns, which gave us nothing, but then we found

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie was the secular headmistress of students. Isn't that crazy? Wait? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's wrong with the two of you? Tag has

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<v Speaker 1>something she wants to say, Tig, I talked to Ali

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<v Speaker 1>when we've been talking a lot, actually for how long

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<v Speaker 1>since the night Brock die? Why didn't you say anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't I don't know. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to hear his side of the story and it

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<v Speaker 1>got complicated. I'm so sick of this Tours. You were right, Win,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have been considering all he as a suspect

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time. I know I did the wrong thing. Enough. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to do this. You can't just drag

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<v Speaker 1>us all along with you and make us risk our

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and mess with our lives and possibly get us

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<v Speaker 1>all killed. Oh well, you're keeping secrets from us you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to do that. Isn't anyone else? Sick and

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<v Speaker 1>tired of pretending, pretending that that we're detectives, pretending we're

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<v Speaker 1>investigative journalists. I can't do this anymore. I'm out Wait, Win, Please,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't leave now we're finally on the right track.

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<v Speaker 1>Well when I'm sorry, I'm gonna go make sure she's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Wins right, Max, we can solve this. Why is that

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<v Speaker 1>our job? Tig. I get why you had to clear

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<v Speaker 1>your aunt's name with Levinson, but why this. I have

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<v Speaker 1>followed you into the fire before I have the scars

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<v Speaker 1>to prove it. You're on your own this time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You did the right thing, hiding your lead

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<v Speaker 1>on Ali Jane Ferranti in Town to Researcher podcast on

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<v Speaker 1>the source of all the evil that plagued Hollow Falls

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. Having messed everything up with my friends,

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>I was running out of places to turn. Absolutely earn

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<v Speaker 1>his trust, collect as much information as you can. My

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<v Speaker 1>friends are all really upset with me. With all due respect,

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<v Speaker 1>tag your friends or kids. I know that sounds harsh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's true. They're overwhelmed by the situation. But guess

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>what these situations are by definition overwhelming. You can't let

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<v Speaker 1>yourself be knocked off balance. I guess you have what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to be a serious journalist. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know her, but I think your aunt Beth would have

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<v Speaker 1>been very proud of you. You know, Tig, I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to help you develop your show. Would you consider

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>working together as partners? Really? Yes? But what about your show?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still making it. I would just be setting aside

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<v Speaker 1>some extra time to help you make yours. Maybe give

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<v Speaker 1>a little professional advice here and there. I have some

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<v Speaker 1>excellent contacts, Jane, that would be amazing. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be easy, you know. This is a major step

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<v Speaker 1>up for lethal it which means you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to approach your work differently. Your work is your life,

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<v Speaker 1>less time with family, less time with friends. Your school

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>work will take a hit too. You ready for this, Well,

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>my friends already aren't speaking to me. And I don't

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>think a bad grade in bio is going to sink

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>my college applications when my essays about taking down a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer, never mind the applications after this, those schools

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be begging for you to come and lecture.

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<v Speaker 1>So there. I was working side by side with a

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<v Speaker 1>total pro who treated me like I could be one too,

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<v Speaker 1>tig torres professional journalist. Uh. I want to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I keep asking you this, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help it. It's all I can think about lately. I

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to see you take I want to help you,

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<v Speaker 1>protect you and make sure you're not going to go

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>out there looking for another killer all by yourself. Okay,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>point really, really, face to face? Where are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go, but listen, I'll be in touch again soon. Okay,

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>be safe? Ally bye? Think that was great? It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel great. Every story needs a way in your the

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>perfect ambassador, tig it's your town. You put away the

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>last murderer, and you're still in touch with your old

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend who tried to kill you. But before, I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get at the truth, reveal the honest story

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>behind the fake one that got publicized. This is different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's creating a new story where there doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be one. I know you don't want to admit this,

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<v Speaker 1>but Allie's a legitimate suspect. What if he'll only confess

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<v Speaker 1>to you in person? What if this is his John

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<v Speaker 1>Hinckley Jr. Moment and he's doing it to impress you.

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<v Speaker 1>The sooner that comes out into the open, the better.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's another victim who doesn't have to die. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess listen, it's my job as your producer to lean

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<v Speaker 1>into the places that are going to push this narrative forward.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be uncomfortable for you at times, but we

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<v Speaker 1>want the best story possible. Right, Yeah, but let's work

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<v Speaker 1>some magic and editing. Uh. You'll see, tig this is

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