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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. We have quite a lone up today.

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Speaker 1: We got Senator Ted Cruz of Texas joining us in

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Talk about what's going on with

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Speaker 1: Fauci and the Biden administration, the fight against COVID and

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Speaker 1: lockdowns and all the rest of it. Jd Vance, bestselling

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Speaker 1: author Senate candidate in Ohio will be with us in

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Speaker 1: the second hour, third hour. Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves on

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court oral arguments on the Mississippi abortion law.

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Speaker 1: Those are just guests. We've also got a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of topics you get to, including Biden putting back the

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Speaker 1: remain in Mexico policy. Oh gosh, you had another time

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Speaker 1: when the Left did something crazy and now has to

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Speaker 1: undo it and act like we didn't tell them all along.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with this because we're going to have

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Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz joining us shortly here on the front

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Speaker 1: half of this hour. How's it going if you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the Biden administration, this Biden regime when it comes

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Speaker 1: to fighting against COVID. Let's just ask the question, how

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Speaker 1: are they doing compared to what they told us they

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Speaker 1: would do. How is this going compared to where they

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Speaker 1: said we would be? Fox News is Peter Doocey yesterday

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Speaker 1: asked Jensaki in the West Wing. Isn't there a standard

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Speaker 1: of success or failure that Biden himself established twenty one,

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Speaker 1: roughly two hundred, twenty thousand Americans had already died of COVID,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden said about Trump, anyone who is responsible for

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Speaker 1: that any debts should not remain as president of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. Is that still the standard now

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Speaker 1: that more Americans had died hundred President Biden than President Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think the fundamental question here is what are you

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Speaker 1: doing to save lives and protect people? And the former

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Speaker 1: president was suggesting people in jet bleach, he apparently reportedly

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Speaker 1: didn't even share with people he was going to interact

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Speaker 1: with that he had tested positive for COVID himself. This

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Speaker 1: president has made the vaccine widely available. He's relied on

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Speaker 1: the advice of his health and medical experts, and he

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Speaker 1: is trying to be a part of solving this crisis,

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Speaker 1: getting the pandemic under control, and I think there's a

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Speaker 1: pretty stark difference between their approaches. Clay, she can whine

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Speaker 1: about Orange Man bad all day, but they've failed based

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Speaker 1: on the metrics that they set up. The Biden administration

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Speaker 1: has failed on COVID. It's interesting to think about this

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Speaker 1: as a thought experiment for everyone listening right now. Trump

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Speaker 1: gets twenty one thousand more votes. He wins Arizona, he

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Speaker 1: wins Georgia, he wins Wisconsin, He's your president. What are

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Speaker 1: Democrats saying If the data is the exact same as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to COVID and Trump has been president for

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Speaker 1: the entirety of COVID, they are blaming him for every

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Speaker 1: death every single day they're having congressional hearings about their failures.

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Speaker 1: They're actually discussing, Democrats are the fact that the vaccines

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Speaker 1: aren't that protective, and they're blaming Donald Trump for that.

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Speaker 1: Think about the thought experiment for what the Jensakis of

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Speaker 1: the world would be saying. They would be saying that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is responsible for seven hundred thousand or whatever

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Speaker 1: the current number is, that any other president would not

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Speaker 1: have had those deaths. Biden ran his entire campaign. This

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Speaker 1: entire campaign predicated on I will solve COVID, I will

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Speaker 1: fix it. Does anyone out there listening right now feel

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Speaker 1: like Joe Biden has done a good job with COVID

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Speaker 1: or that he has solved it in any way? Right now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: Michigan is at almost the worst point it has been

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Speaker 1: in the entire time of the pandemic. Right now, Michigan

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Speaker 1: data on COVID is looking really bad. New York is

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Speaker 1: seeing a case surge. It not it hasn't yet resulted

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Speaker 1: in all time high of hospitalizations as we see a

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Speaker 1: Michigan has twenty five thousand confirmed cases of COVID just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, over a five day period.

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Speaker 1: Right So, to give a sense of where we are now,

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Speaker 1: the numbers in the in the North, in a lot

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Speaker 1: of these blue states not going in the direction that

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Speaker 1: we thought they'd be. And here's just a reminder. You

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Speaker 1: said that Biden ran on how he's going to do

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Speaker 1: a great job. That's no exaggeration. Here is Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: telling you he's gonna shut it down. What I would

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Speaker 1: say is, I'm gonna shut down the virus, not the country.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shut down the country. I'm gonna shut

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Speaker 1: gonna shut down the virus. I'll shut down the virus,

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Speaker 1: not the economy. I'm gonna shut down the virus. Once

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Speaker 1: You're gonna shut down the virus. I'm not gonna shut

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Speaker 1: Did you shut down the virus? Clay, Because if you

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Speaker 1: look at the data, that seems like a really tough

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Speaker 1: case to make well. And what's amazing, Buck is the

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Speaker 1: media has stopped talking about all these failures in record

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Speaker 1: high hospitalizations because they're not occurring in red states anymore.

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Speaker 1: The narrative during the summer was, oh, the only reason

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Speaker 1: in Texas, Florida, all these red state and income poops.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the New York Times data right now,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire blue state. When I say blue state, I

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Speaker 1: mean they voted for Joe Biden right now. According and look,

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Speaker 1: some places are behind in Thanksgiving data, but right now,

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Speaker 1: this is the numbers. New Hampshire has the highest rate

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Speaker 1: by Minnesota. Then you got North Dakota, then Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Vermont,

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Speaker 1: New Mexico. By my count, seven of the eight states

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Speaker 1: right now that have the highest rate of COVID in

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Speaker 1: the country voted for Joe Biden. So what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Are all of these blue state voters, all these Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden people not wearing their masks tight enough, Are they

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Speaker 1: not social distancing enough, are they not having high enough

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Speaker 1: rates of COVID vaccination or or is this just a

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Speaker 1: sign that virtually everything that's going on that we're being

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Speaker 1: lectured about wearing your masks at airports, your kids, your

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Speaker 1: three year old wearing a mask at daycare, that all

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Speaker 1: of it is cosmetic theater and it's doing virtually nothing.

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Speaker 1: And the Rhonda Santis is of the world. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Florida. Florida has a rate right now

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Speaker 1: lowest in the United States of any state, six per

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand right lowest in the entire country. Right now.

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is seventy two per one hundred thousand bucks.

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Speaker 1: So New Hampshire is over ten times the infection rate

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Speaker 1: as Florida clay. If the weather, which is basically what

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Speaker 1: people are now pointing to on this and by the way,

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Speaker 1: that's true in the sense of their seasonality, right, But

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Speaker 1: if the weather is such an important factor in this

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Speaker 1: that all these other things making kids mask up outside

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Speaker 1: as I sit on freezing cold ground to eat their lunches,

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Speaker 1: think it was Kevin Smith, remember that time from Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as effective as just being in warmer Florida, what does

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Speaker 1: that actually mean, folks? What does that mean about all

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Speaker 1: these policies, all these mandates, all these things that they're

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Speaker 1: always or ramming down people's throats. Now, again, the only

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Speaker 1: That's still true, that's still important, but spread and all

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Speaker 1: the other one. But the stuff that gets me the

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Speaker 1: craziest is, you know, is the masking and the social distancing.

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Speaker 1: This stuff doesn't work for crap. We all know that.

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Speaker 1: We all see it. Second US case by the way

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Speaker 1: circulating omicron has for some time. And you know, look,

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Senator Cruz,

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to see courage be contagious and more

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. Thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show ted cruise, drop the iron. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dropping bombs on people. That was That was fantastic. We've

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Speaker 1: got a couple more guests, by the way, like via

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Speaker 1: roadmap where we're headed Ohio Senate candidate JD. Vance, also

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Speaker 1: the author of the bestseller Hillbilly Elegie. He will be

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Speaker 1: with us in the second hour, and then we'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by Tate Reeves, who is the governor of Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time yesterday talking about the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court case that is underway there surrounding whether or

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Speaker 1: not Mississippi can put a fifteen week ban on abortions.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, based on the way the conversation sounded,

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Speaker 1: it certainly sounds like the state of Mississippi is likely

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Speaker 1: to be headed towards a victory there and and man,

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Speaker 1: that was a really impressive situation and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: hit there here if we could, we had Jen Saki.

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Speaker 1: Of course this is not a surprise, but Jen Saki

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Speaker 1: came out and said that she believes the Mississippi abortion

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Speaker 1: vanarding to Joe Biden poses a grave risk to women's

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Speaker 1: fundamental rights. We'll ask the governor about this, but I

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Speaker 1: want to play it for you if we could here,

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Speaker 1: let's hit cut fifteen. I would note that the President believes,

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Speaker 1: and she gave me the opportunity, that the Mississippi law

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Speaker 1: blatantly violates women's constitutional rights to safe and legal abortions.

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Speaker 1: This case presents a grave threat to women's fundamental rights.

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Speaker 1: To all of our rights as protected under Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade for nearly half a century, every woman, every American,

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Speaker 1: deserves access to healthcare, including reproductive healthcare. And the President

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Speaker 1: is deeply committed to the constitutional right, as we've outlined before,

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Speaker 1: and as he's mentioned before, he's committed to working with

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Speaker 1: Congress to codify the constitutional right to safe and legal

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Speaker 1: abortion as protected by ROW. That'll never happen, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and beyond that, a lot of propaganda here from Jensaki.

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Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the it's abortion. Why this whole

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Speaker 1: thing about its healthcare. It's liberty, it's all these things.

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Speaker 1: It's abortion, and the Biden administration is going to go

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Speaker 1: to the Hill to back it because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of donor dollars involved as well as the Democrat base

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Speaker 1: completely fired up. And really you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: people for whom this issue brings out. When we joke,

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Speaker 1: we talk about a lot about, you know, people being crazy,

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Speaker 1: you know, the insanity of double masking and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I actually do think some of that is an anxiety disorder,

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Speaker 1: like a legitimate anxiety disorder. But when you have people

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Speaker 1: Clay as there were yesterday or the day before, taking

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Speaker 1: abortion pills, you know, I think it was symbolic. But

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Speaker 1: taking abortion pills and singing about their abortions on the

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Speaker 1: steps of the Supreme Court and celebrating it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's something really wrong with people. There's something really dark

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Speaker 1: in the heart of America today, and it's gonna get

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get very ugly as this gets closer to

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Speaker 1: an actual resolution. She keeps talking about as a constitutional right.

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Speaker 1: It won't be if the Court says it's not. Because

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Speaker 1: this is fabricated out of out of whole cloth. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a big difference and I think you hit

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Speaker 1: on it there, Buck, with the way that people were

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Speaker 1: protesting outside the Supreme Court. By the way, abortions probably

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Speaker 1: always going to be legal in Washington, DC, because they

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Speaker 1: have the right to determine I believe whether or not

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Speaker 1: abortion occurs there. If I'm wrong, that's a federalism issue. Apologies,

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Speaker 1: But basically state governments are able to make their own

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Speaker 1: choices going forward, even if Roe v. Wade was overturned.

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Speaker 1: But I think your point in a larger context there, Puck,

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Speaker 1: is an important one. There's a difference between someone having

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Speaker 1: an abortion and someone bragging about having an abortion. There's

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Speaker 1: a monster difference to me between that. There are lots

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Speaker 1: of people out there who are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years

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Speaker 1: old and when they were young teenagers they might have

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Speaker 1: had an abortion. Most of those people are not bragging

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Speaker 1: about having abortion. That is a mental challenge and they

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Speaker 1: bear it with them for the rest of their life.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that you should be bragging about abortion,

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Speaker 1: that's the next step, and you should be proud to

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Speaker 1: be having an abortion. There are these activists that are

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Speaker 1: trying to argue that such an open that's such an

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Speaker 1: open celebration Stella. Of the population that agrees with that,

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Speaker 1: it's very ninety percent of people are like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: may have different variety of opinions on abortion, and depending

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Speaker 1: polsters have shown depending on the way the questions are asked.

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Speaker 1: We had a good call yesterday about partial birth abortion.

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Speaker 1: This is a complex issue right for so many people.

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Speaker 1: But the idea that you would brag about it or

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Speaker 1: be proud or as you said, celebrate the idea of

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Speaker 1: having an abortion is something that the overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 1: Americans reject wholeheartedly. Well, it's also part of that where

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Speaker 1: we are yeah, well, there's there's a propaganda as well

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Speaker 1: around things like I'm calling it healthcare. They act as

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Speaker 1: though if you if you have a problem with this,

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Speaker 1: it's like having a problem with you know, someone getting

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Speaker 1: antibiotics for strep throat. I mean, this is not this

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Speaker 1: is not just a healthcare issue. Okay, There's something else

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Speaker 1: at issue here, and that's what comes up in the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court review that will come up in the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court review of this. Obviously, the thing that they keep

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Speaker 1: dancing around is these there are two lives involved here.

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Speaker 1: The fundamental here is that there are two lives involved

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about an abortion, So just to focus

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Speaker 1: on the life of the mother is to fall into

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Speaker 1: a moral fallacy on that one one hundred percent. Buck

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Speaker 1: and Well said there too. We specifically know that because

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Speaker 1: we have crimes that are allowed if, for instance, unfortunately

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Speaker 1: a mother is killed and she has a viable fetus,

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Speaker 1: the fetus has a life, and there can be a

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Speaker 1: double murder charge that is brought. That's significant in terms

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Speaker 1: of recognizing the humanity of the unborn child. People out

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Speaker 1: there may not have paid a lot of attention to

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Speaker 1: the criminal code as it pertains to that, but we

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Speaker 1: specifically recognize that two lives are being taken when a

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Speaker 1: pregnant mother with a viable fetus loses her life and

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Speaker 1: the fetus does as well, which got for us. So

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Speaker 1: we will be talking to Governor Tate Reeves because we

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Speaker 1: want him to explain exactly what the Mississippi Bill is

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Speaker 1: all about, what it is supposed to accomplish, what it's

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Speaker 1: supposed to do, So that will be coming up in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We've also got Jade Vance, as claim mentioned,

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Speaker 1: joining us from Ohio and Clay something that we should

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Speaker 1: get into the next hours. The backtracking on the backtracking

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Speaker 1: on remained in Mexico somehow the remain in Mexico policy,

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Speaker 1: which the Biden administration has been saying is the height

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Speaker 1: of cruelty, and that's really the term they like to

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Speaker 1: use for it, the height of cruelty. Now they realize, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we don't change It's what we've been saying on

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Speaker 1: this show for the entire time we've been together on

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Speaker 1: the show, which is, if you don't change the incentive

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Speaker 1: structure at the US Mexico border, you have record levels

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Speaker 1: of illegal immigration. If people think, and they're right in thinking,

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Speaker 1: they'll be able to get into America illegally without much

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Speaker 1: record numbers. Remained in Mexico still respects their right to

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Speaker 1: claim asylum, but because they're claiming false asylum essentially to

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Speaker 1: and the judge says, you don't really have a case

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Speaker 1: as much hot tea as you possibly can. One day

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Speaker 1: I'll tell the story of when my vocal my throat

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Speaker 1: from a doctor to open up my throat so I

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Speaker 1: could guest host for three hours. That was That was hardcore.

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Speaker 1: But for people out there, everybody has different you know,

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Speaker 1: body like if you're a running back and you've got

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Speaker 1: to hurt knee or you But for us, we're like

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Speaker 1: an opera clar to go. Yeah, we're like opera singers.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, if I can't talk, I

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Speaker 1: can't make a living. Yeah, I can't hit that high

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Speaker 1: seat with the vibrato. I got a problem. Anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: coming back here with this ago. It's gonna be. He'll

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Speaker 1: be with us and hopefully Buck will still be a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's next hour you're listening to, Clay Travis said. Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton fund the EIB Network