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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: Well it's a joy later, Bill, it's a joyful time
Speaker 3: inside the s w b C.
Speaker 2: Why is that? Why is that, sir?
Speaker 4: We have a vacant because we got no We got
Speaker 4: people outside the pads.
Speaker 3: That's right. We've got football players on a football field
Speaker 3: where we pads.
Speaker 5: Mickey's out there with pegs.
Speaker 3: He is on the football field. He's getting good. Tryout out.
Speaker 2: Check that Achilles. See how it's going?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I, Savanta, you don't know Mickey has had a well, yeah.
Speaker 2: Achilles accident.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't think she can't, he brings. I don't think
Speaker 2: she can't. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Whenever whenever an NFL player has an achilles.
Speaker 2: We gotta go through Mickey.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about my achilles.
Speaker 2: We got to go through Mickey.
Speaker 3: Mine's worse than you.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, it was horrible. Let me tell you about it.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, I tried. Isn't it fun when Nicky's not
Speaker 3: here can talk.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: We can talk about Mickey.
Speaker 2: That's good stuff.
Speaker 5: To watch this back later.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be gonna come back mad. You know, he's
Speaker 2: always mad.
Speaker 3: She'll teach him to show up like, uh, but I
Speaker 3: guess we're going to Are we going to find anymore?
Speaker 5: Is it an excuse that I'll give him some credit?
Speaker 5: He was early to the press conference room today. He
Speaker 5: was ready to go for coach.
Speaker 2: He must really be.
Speaker 3: Okay, act like act like, act like. We haven't been
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 4: We have not been talking about Okay, we have not
Speaker 4: been talking about who cares about stags? Yeah, we don't
Speaker 4: care about spags and nobody cares, you know, we just
Speaker 4: hear it all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm just amazed there are football players on a football
Speaker 3: field outdoors here with all the raid we got last name, Wow?
Speaker 3: Do we have natural natural glass on one field?
Speaker 2: The far field?
Speaker 5: That's when they're on.
Speaker 6: Right you they redid he also had an owner on
Speaker 6: the field.
Speaker 2: I heard about that. That's your excuse, right, excuse?
Speaker 6: It was my priority not sitting here chit chatting.
Speaker 2: With you guys. Hey, how do you know that's what
Speaker 2: we were doing.
Speaker 3: I know what you're back and listen to the beginning
Speaker 3: of the show. Yeah, where your ears burning?
Speaker 6: You want me to just put my phone up to
Speaker 6: the microphone, so you know what he said? Yeah, until
Speaker 6: the music started, they were practice. Yeah, they got ready
Speaker 6: to start practicing. So the music cranked up, and oh, cay,
Speaker 6: can I put this right in his face?
Speaker 4: They don't realize that the owner is out there on
Speaker 4: the field.
Speaker 3: No, I know before and there hasn't been a crowd
Speaker 3: of reporters around him.
Speaker 6: He's out there all the time, Yeah, but probably not
Speaker 6: when he makes himself available to the reporters.
Speaker 2: He must have watched.
Speaker 6: He must have been in a good mood because we
Speaker 6: crossed in the elevator and he goes, oh, good to
Speaker 6: see you. Good to see you too.
Speaker 2: Okay, you never get that good to be seen. Nobody
Speaker 2: gets that. Bag never gets that from anything.
Speaker 6: I get it from him all the time. What are
Speaker 6: you talking about?
Speaker 2: So nothing he didn't reveal. Uh.
Speaker 6: He basically said he didn't think from a trade deadline thing.
Speaker 6: That he said he didn't see anything out there that
Speaker 6: would make him jump to do you know whatever, but
Speaker 6: that you never know when someone comes to you, you know,
Speaker 6: he goes, Obviously, I'm not to posed to trading, as
Speaker 6: you've seen from my history. And he said basically, and
Speaker 6: if you know, if you're coming to me, you better
Speaker 6: be prepared to do it, because you know I will.
Speaker 6: And he said he thought that this roster as it
Speaker 6: is right now is good enough to get them to
Speaker 6: where they want to go. So he's happy with the roster.
Speaker 3: Key word there is as it is right right now.
Speaker 6: That's right. And so you never know what happens at
Speaker 6: two o'clock on Tuesday, right.
Speaker 3: Right, or two o'clock on Sunday, which.
Speaker 6: Could also write or three o'clock on Sunday after the
Speaker 6: game's over.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: He also talked about how there's a kind of and
Speaker 6: I caught it just at the end of it, underlying
Speaker 6: feelings playing a team like the Rams and their history
Speaker 6: and you know, kind of where he grew up and
Speaker 6: you know, the whole whole deal, Matthew Stafford kind of
Speaker 6: coming home and all the respect he had for the
Speaker 6: RAMS organization.
Speaker 4: So RAMS organization closely tied to the Cowboys organization.
Speaker 6: Right, and a lot of history playoff history, personnel history,
Speaker 6: where tech Shram came from. Kind of got his start
Speaker 6: in football, so yeah, yeah, And he hadn't done that
Speaker 6: out at practice yet. That was the first time this year.
Speaker 6: I think he's himself available, so he must be in
Speaker 6: a good mood.
Speaker 3: Why I looked out there, I saw the reporters huddled
Speaker 3: around somebody. I figured it might be Jerry. I thought
Speaker 3: we got some breaking news.
Speaker 6: It wasn't breaking. It's just a veil. It was funny
Speaker 6: because we crossed after I finished my report with the fan.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's a game on Sunday. People are in town, right,
Speaker 6: tours are big.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: I went up back to my desk after I passed
Speaker 6: him in the elevator and got my stuff, and then
Speaker 6: I looked out and I was kind of watching practice,
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, I saw a pack
Speaker 6: of people and I said, oh, I shouldn't get hurried down.
Speaker 4: That's right, absolutely, So he didn't think that there's anyone
Speaker 4: out there that that uh.
Speaker 2: He didn't his whistle.
Speaker 6: He didn't put it that way.
Speaker 3: Sort of.
Speaker 6: Depending on what the price is, right, the availability to
Speaker 6: what you have to get give up. He didn't figure
Speaker 6: there because there's I just kind of reading on the
Speaker 6: internet today that you know, everybody's saying, well, the Cowboys
Speaker 6: want a cornerback, and I was like, well, okay, And
Speaker 6: then I thought about it, and it's like, well, if
Speaker 6: you get a sweetheart deal and you get a starter cheap,
Speaker 6: then let's think about the future, right because if Gilmore
Speaker 6: is only plays on a one year deal, then you're
Speaker 6: going to need another corner next year. Right now, what
Speaker 6: would be the cost. Well, if one is available that
Speaker 6: was a former first round pick on his original contract,
Speaker 6: you don't have to account for the the sighting bonus,
Speaker 6: right just the base salaries and the base salaries second, third,
Speaker 6: fourth year aren't that high. And if the guy's that
Speaker 6: good and you like them coming out of the draft,
Speaker 6: then you know why not and you look at it
Speaker 6: not for this year, but for next year, and it
Speaker 6: might be the cheapest way to get another starting corner
Speaker 6: because you can't have enough corners, right.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've been waiting on someone to say that.
Speaker 4: We've never said that in this room, you know, That's
Speaker 4: what I know. We've never said those words in this room.
Speaker 4: So I've been cheating watching some of the other shows
Speaker 4: and they were throwing out some names.
Speaker 6: Well be careful now because they're don't say other people said, we.
Speaker 3: Can say it if if we say, other people have
Speaker 3: said that I was cheating watching the always that producer
Speaker 3: supreme not on his watch.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir Christopher, he's.
Speaker 6: Got the button. They're not cussing, but they're saying the wrong.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you can disguise it by saying the type
Speaker 3: player that you're talking.
Speaker 4: About, a big bruiser, you know, big big, you know,
Speaker 4: ground and pound guy you know, at a particular position
Speaker 4: that carries the ball. That's good, vgew vague, don't have
Speaker 4: to be that's better.
Speaker 2: He said, that's about all I got.
Speaker 6: And in that case, it will cost you a lot.
Speaker 2: Yes it will, yes it will, it will well, but
Speaker 2: he knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the same thing at yeah, and the same
Speaker 6: thing at the cornerback position.
Speaker 4: Too, and wide receiver position and wide receive because they've
Speaker 4: got you know, some guys out there that bring it
Speaker 4: all in.
Speaker 2: They love the gamble, you know, sin city.
Speaker 6: You know, the good thing they catch the ball, not
Speaker 6: not carry the ball. The good thing out not really big.
Speaker 2: That's kind of my size. So it was good.
Speaker 6: I have everybody out there practicing, though, So that's a
Speaker 6: that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How about that injury report yesterday, that was great. There
Speaker 3: was one person on the injury report and he was
Speaker 3: a full participant, and that's one Yea Thomas.
Speaker 2: I saw him out there when we left. I saw
Speaker 2: him running around.
Speaker 3: And why was he even on there?
Speaker 6: That was because you because he had to come off
Speaker 6: the not playing the year.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the only reason. Because because he did not
Speaker 3: play in the last if he had played the last game, they.
Speaker 4: Went, it was very odd that was the last guy
Speaker 4: that we spoke of yesterday.
Speaker 2: And then I look out there and I see him
Speaker 2: running righty button.
Speaker 6: But very important, by the way, since yesterday when they
Speaker 6: had the point list up on the video board in
Speaker 6: the locker room, and they have John Fossil has a
Speaker 6: point system on grading his special teams guys and usually CJ.
Speaker 6: Goodwin is at the top. Well, with him missing the
Speaker 6: last game or two, the top special teams player in
Speaker 6: points was jan Yer Thomas and they missed him in
Speaker 6: the game last week. Right, So significant that they get
Speaker 6: him back out there. And it doesn't have to do
Speaker 6: with total tackles. It just has to do with your
Speaker 6: game evaluation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing well, Yeah, yeah, and by the way, C J.
Speaker 6: Goodwin still hasn't given up on himself. He was out
Speaker 6: there trying to do some rehab on the cords with
Speaker 6: Peyton Hendershot, which is an improvement since he's been hurt.
Speaker 6: Because I haven't seen it, I had to remind myself.
Speaker 6: I said, eighty nine. Did they give eighty nine to
Speaker 6: one of those practice squad guys? And oh it's it's
Speaker 6: a Hendershot. Yeah. That was good to see him. Maybe
Speaker 6: he's getting closer, although he's on IR. But it's a
Speaker 6: good thing that you're doing rehab like he is. Because
Speaker 6: haven't seen Leyton van Dersh out there.
Speaker 3: So you see Eric Saubert out there?
Speaker 4: Uhbert, we talked about the album.
Speaker 6: I'm assuming he was otherwise he wouldn't have been signed.
Speaker 6: Although I don't think he made it.
Speaker 3: To the he's wearing like forty seven forty seven Yeah, scale,
Speaker 3: Oh there you go full back.
Speaker 6: Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't play that game.
Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah we'll be The history will be okay, let's get
Speaker 4: on with it.
Speaker 3: Just no, you just say a number and what's the
Speaker 3: what's the Cowboys player that comes to former?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: People just what Cowboys player comes to mind when you
Speaker 3: say eight.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's good on that.
Speaker 3: About ninety four, he's good on that? Oh well, sup
Speaker 3: of them?
Speaker 2: Haley?
Speaker 6: How about forty?
Speaker 2: Hailey baits Bates very good easy?
Speaker 6: Twenty four?
Speaker 2: There was only one.
Speaker 3: There's only one Morris Clayborn.
Speaker 2: That's a good Landy Brown. Yeah, Larry Brown, Come on,
Speaker 2: because of Larry Brown. That's why they want retired. Because
Speaker 2: of Larry Brown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's too much good luck it's available. Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: So oh, by the way, did you I didn't realize this,
Speaker 6: we didn't talk about it yet, but did you see
Speaker 6: that Sean mcvay's a new father? I did, yes, Tuesday.
Speaker 6: How nice of his wife to give birth on the
Speaker 6: day there's no practice?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: You think they induced labor?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what it's like.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta get it with her. They did not.
Speaker 3: Producers and knows all know.
Speaker 6: That because I read that her projector projected due date
Speaker 6: was August thirty first, and that was the it's day.
Speaker 6: I mean October. Sorry October, mister, mister mister perfect, And
Speaker 6: don't don't bury the little start devisive because since you
Speaker 6: guys are so perfect that Sean mcvay's grandfather, John McVay,
Speaker 6: who was very instrumental UH in coaching and being a
Speaker 6: GM from buildings forty niners, passed away last year on
Speaker 6: October thirty first, And so the baby's nick middle name
Speaker 6: is John Jordan's John McVay. Now shut off.
Speaker 2: I just got to get it right, man. We can't
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 6: Just make wonder.
Speaker 3: We'll see how you imagine if we'll see let a
Speaker 3: pregnancy go that one. It's thirty four.
Speaker 6: We'll see how.
Speaker 2: I knew women were strong.
Speaker 6: But we'll see how good. We'll see how good you
Speaker 6: do on Monday without us.
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Speaker 6: Okay, we'll see Okay, I'll be listening.
Speaker 2: No you won't. Oh, I will be listening.
Speaker 6: You'll get a call in your ears. What did they see?
Speaker 2: Ears will be burning? That's one thing. I know. Your
Speaker 2: ears will be burning?
Speaker 6: What did they say?
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Speaker 3: Okay, if trade talks are not at a level that
Speaker 3: you would expect to do anything right now, at what
Speaker 3: point do you think trade talks will get to a
Speaker 3: level that you might expect to do something at what
Speaker 3: point before Tuesday at three o'clock. It'll be after the
Speaker 3: games on Sunday, somebody everybody in the league's playing on Sunday,
Speaker 3: and so everyone is going to see, Okay, we're thinking
Speaker 3: about that we might need we could shore up the
Speaker 3: running back position, or the cornerback position, or the wide
Speaker 3: receiver position or tackle or whatever. Well, then you lose
Speaker 3: a player on Sunday and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: we need this player. And so I don't anticipate unless
Speaker 3: there's deals that are already in place to replace injured players,
Speaker 3: like what Seattle just did signing Frank Clark because they
Speaker 3: lost in a wo sue in WOSU to an injury.
Speaker 3: They needed an edge rusher. Things will heat up after
Speaker 3: Sunday when all thirty two teams are in action.
Speaker 6: Yeah, or somebody comes to you with a deal, you
Speaker 6: can't pass up like we're probably, but I would.
Speaker 3: Think most teams are sitting there going, let's see what
Speaker 3: happens on Sunday. Oh yeah, because you might have another need,
Speaker 3: or you might need that player that you want to pedal, or.
Speaker 6: You're getting desperate because you want to pedal a guy
Speaker 6: because you know you're going to lose them in free
Speaker 6: agency the next year, because you don't want to pay
Speaker 6: whatever it's going to cost, which also factors in to
Speaker 6: any trade. Right, is this guy wanted like, how do
Speaker 6: you say the guy's name, Bayard, Kevin Byard, Bayered, Well,
Speaker 6: he wanted more money, and they probably think, well, we're
Speaker 6: not re signing you to that kind of money, so
Speaker 6: let's get something for you now. And I think that
Speaker 6: factors into the situation.
Speaker 3: In fact, the player that they got from the Eagles
Speaker 3: in that trade has been playing a lot for the
Speaker 3: Eagles too. Yeah, you can just go there. You know,
Speaker 3: it's not like the Titans are giving up on the
Speaker 3: season even with their record.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you basically have a what ten ten
Speaker 6: game interview for going into the next offseason on what
Speaker 6: you do in the draft or in free agency. So
Speaker 6: and it's probably cheaper too, So I think all that
Speaker 6: stuff factors in.
Speaker 2: Who's the linebacker we just signed that We were.
Speaker 6: So Rashaan Evans is going to play. He's out there practicing.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 6: Number fift seven thirty I thought he had thirty two,
Speaker 6: fifty seven he was last year.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's number thirty two, thirty two, thirty two. You know,
Speaker 3: when we were talking numbers earlier, I was going to
Speaker 3: throw out thirty two.
Speaker 2: Who was that thirty two?
Speaker 6: Herennisman Man a second?
Speaker 3: Thenis Walt Garrison?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, of course that.
Speaker 6: Was Garrison's number, thirty two.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to say that that was a dude. Man,
Speaker 2: You're supposed to say.
Speaker 6: I didn't watch him play, so.
Speaker 2: We just helped him get home. I just you just
Speaker 2: helped him get home.
Speaker 6: Just seeing Pitt rash.
Speaker 3: So do y'all like the fact that linebackers know or
Speaker 3: in other positions there they can wear whatever number. Do
Speaker 3: you like that because a couple of years ago you
Speaker 3: signed a linebacker and he's wearing in the.
Speaker 4: Fifties, I'm kind of I discriminated a little bit because
Speaker 4: I just don't think a lineman necessarily looks good with fifteen.
Speaker 2: On, you know, I'm a no. One.
Speaker 4: I want the offensive lineman to have the numbers that
Speaker 4: they have defensive lineman. They defensive lineman number one a
Speaker 4: defensive tackle. It just doesn't doesn't look well to me. Now,
Speaker 4: as far as DB's a concerned, I'm all of them having.
Speaker 6: How about on the offensive line, the numbers, the number
Speaker 6: you have to.
Speaker 3: Wear offensive line, you do.
Speaker 6: Do it right, So no offensive lineman's going out there
Speaker 6: with you.
Speaker 2: But I'm with D Lineman too. I don't like D.
Speaker 2: Lineman doing it either. Yeah, I don't like the ninety officials.
Speaker 3: The officials got to make sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like D.
Speaker 4: Lineman with these particular numbers. Partions with number eleven looks
Speaker 4: good on him, But well, D Lineman.
Speaker 6: That's a linebacker mostly right, and that's not bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How about six on a cornerback?
Speaker 2: Of course? Yes?
Speaker 3: How about forty four on a cornerback?
Speaker 2: Of course? Yeah? Yeah, that's old school forty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah A Killow Witherspoon starting corner for the Rams is
Speaker 3: forty four. Darrien Kendrick starting cornerback is number six, So
Speaker 3: they're just getting you familiar. How about fourteen on a cornerback.
Speaker 2: Seems more of an offensive.
Speaker 3: Okay, Kobe Durant another cornerback, where's number fourteen?
Speaker 2: You're silver with these type of numbers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, looking at the Rams, it is
Speaker 3: amazing what they have done, especially on the defensive side
Speaker 3: of the football, putting together a team that's been competitive
Speaker 3: with a bunch of guys who are either undrafted or
Speaker 3: very late round draft picks. I mean, it's incredible what
Speaker 3: less sneed is done with this team.
Speaker 4: But they're surrounded, well, they surround this one magic player, right,
Speaker 4: so I guess you could put a lot of role
Speaker 4: players around someone like Aaron Donald. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: that takes away a little bit of his genius points,
Speaker 4: you know, because you got you got, yeah, the star
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 2: In the middle.
Speaker 6: I mean, so other than Aaron Donald, give me somebody
Speaker 6: else on the Rams defense.
Speaker 2: And don't look, Oh it's too late. I'm already looking.
Speaker 3: No. I studied him last night. That's why I'm saying
Speaker 3: that it's amazing what they have put around him and
Speaker 3: where they have found some of these players. Number ninety
Speaker 3: seven Michael Hoyt.
Speaker 2: How you pronounce his job? Good job with h.
Speaker 3: H O E c ht. Michael Hoyt. He is sixty four,
Speaker 3: three hundred and ten pounds, and he they line him
Speaker 3: up on the edge. Okay, and he plays all special
Speaker 3: teams too, and he's he's getting fifty to sixty snaps.
Speaker 4: Again again six four, three ten.
Speaker 3: He's playing an edge rusher. They line him up on
Speaker 3: either the left or the right side.
Speaker 6: Oh, they're in a three four they're in.
Speaker 3: But but at three hundred and ten pounds, ye, yeah,
Speaker 3: well you might to force him to cover somebody well,
Speaker 3: and then and there there is evidence on tape where
Speaker 3: he's covering backs coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 2: I got to see that. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh, Sean Mathis is his backup. By the way, we
Speaker 6: all know about him, do we? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How do we not have?
Speaker 3: He's from TCC sixth round draft pick this year out
Speaker 3: of Nebraska and also went to TCU.
Speaker 6: There are other starting other starting linebacker is Christian rose Boom.
Speaker 3: Christian rose Boom, college free agent twenty twenty out of
Speaker 3: South Dakota State. How much undrafted?
Speaker 6: How much have you heard about Darien Kendrick.
Speaker 3: Darien Kendrick. Now, he was a Clemson in Georgia guy.
Speaker 3: He transferred from one to the other. But he was
Speaker 3: a sixth round draft pick, and he's a starting corner.
Speaker 3: He started six games last year.
Speaker 6: I think the point is they've there's more, Let's keep going.
Speaker 2: This is fun.
Speaker 6: They've studied all night.
Speaker 2: He wants.
Speaker 6: They paid a high price for some of the trades.
Speaker 3: They they paid a high price for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Yes, right, right, and now they're playing. But they're Pruce,
Speaker 6: Jordan Fuller and Russ Yeast. Russ Russ Yeast at safety.
Speaker 3: Russ Yeast is rising in day.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: He out of Louisville and he also transferred from Kansas
Speaker 3: State to Louisville, Okay, and ninety five pounds. He's your
Speaker 3: starting strong safety. Is a seventh round draft pick last year.
Speaker 6: Okay, give me something on Ernest Jones, the fourth.
Speaker 3: Ernest Jones, the fourth out of South Carolina. He is
Speaker 3: he is one player, a third round pick who has
Speaker 3: a little bit of pedigree going for him, as well
Speaker 3: as Byron Young, their third round pack pick this year
Speaker 3: out of Tennessee. Who is what's the pedigree meaning their
Speaker 3: sec guys and you know they are our second day
Speaker 3: draft picks. So this is Michael Hoyt Okay, getting back
Speaker 3: to him. You know where he went to college. He
Speaker 3: is the only player in the NFL from Brown University
Speaker 3: and IVY leagues.
Speaker 2: Okay, he.
Speaker 3: Was undrafted in twenty twenty COVID year, so he the
Speaker 3: pro day that he was supposed to go to got canceled,
Speaker 3: and so a buddy of his got together with him
Speaker 3: during COVID and they put a video together of him
Speaker 3: doing his own personal pro day and at three hundred
Speaker 3: and ten pounds, they said he ran a four six forty.
Speaker 2: Well, he said it right his buddy time.
Speaker 3: So he got the attention of the Rams defensive line coach,
Speaker 3: who had nothing better to do during COVID because there
Speaker 3: was nothing they could do, and he started he was
Speaker 3: just looking at videos of players around the country, and
Speaker 3: he said he looked at every single play of Michael
Speaker 3: Hoyt's senior year at Brown University and said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I think this guy can play in this league.
Speaker 2: But he went through a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, his history if I'm reading this correctly.
Speaker 4: April they signed him July COVID in twenty so he
Speaker 4: sat August. In August he's activated, yep, and then in
Speaker 4: September he was waved right.
Speaker 3: And so he was one of those guys he nobody, nobody.
Speaker 3: He's an easy guy. You can put on a practice
Speaker 3: squad or wave or whatever.
Speaker 2: But and that was the next thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, doesn't mean that you've given up on him.
Speaker 3: It just means nobody else is going to sign him.
Speaker 3: He's a safe guy, and you're red. He red shirted,
Speaker 3: and he sat there and watched Aaron Donald every single
Speaker 3: day and figured out as a smart guy. Went to
Speaker 3: an IVY league school. He figured out and patterned himself
Speaker 3: after that, and he winds up. Last year he started
Speaker 3: six games for him, had four and a half sacks,
Speaker 3: and he's already got two and a half sacks this
Speaker 3: year in seven games. And he starts for him. Amazing.
Speaker 3: Then they've got another starter on their defensive line ninety
Speaker 3: two Jonah Williams, same year, college free agent, undrafted out
Speaker 3: a Weavers. And here we are in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: three years later, he's starting on their defensive line. And
Speaker 3: they've been competitive in games. We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3: They you know, played the San Francisco a one score game,
Speaker 3: thirty to twenty three, the nineteen sixteen game against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Just last week, they against Pittsburgh. They had a lead
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter and lost twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very disappointing. That was not a Sean
Speaker 4: McVay type of game.
Speaker 2: But you got out coached.
Speaker 3: But I think more than anything, I think it's a
Speaker 3: case study for other teams around the league that there
Speaker 3: are Everson Walls type players that are out there and
Speaker 3: you can find them.
Speaker 2: They're close, they're close, you know, they're not quite.
Speaker 3: Just think about guys, Think about yourself, Everson. If you
Speaker 3: hadn't got a shot, you know, if someone hadn't believed
Speaker 3: in you five years ago, and you wouldn't be sitting
Speaker 3: here on mix shots today.
Speaker 2: Well it was closet.
Speaker 6: Don't play the percentages on all that.
Speaker 2: You ain't lying about that, buddy.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, this is stuff. You're just mining the fields,
Speaker 3: trying to find diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 5: Now, out of all of these guys on defense, who
Speaker 5: are we most concerned about?
Speaker 2: You said it yesterday.
Speaker 4: You said it yesterday, Savannah, I know number ninety nine.
Speaker 2: And to me, I'm looking at this.
Speaker 4: They did well when they had money, they did well
Speaker 4: when they had the draft the players, and they made
Speaker 4: the trades.
Speaker 2: But it's still hard to win a championship just because
Speaker 2: you have those players. So give them a big credit
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 4: But I'm also pivoting here, give them a lot of
Speaker 4: credit based on what you're telling me here, Bill, that
Speaker 4: they still know how to recruit even on a budget.
Speaker 3: Yep, and know what traits to look for and.
Speaker 2: Guys, that's impressive. That's impressive.
Speaker 4: That's when you really know what kind of front office
Speaker 4: you have when you see them doing the things that
Speaker 4: they're doing with these type of players. Nothing wrong with
Speaker 4: their pedigree at all, but it just is not as
Speaker 4: impressive as when they won the Super Bowl pedigrees.
Speaker 3: On that twenty fourteen draft, the Rams selected in the
Speaker 3: first round Aaron Donald number thirteen overall, who went number
Speaker 3: sixteen overall that year, Zach Martin Cowboys. How about those
Speaker 3: two picks in the middle.
Speaker 6: Of the pres The Cowboys had their eye on Donald
Speaker 6: until he disappeared.
Speaker 3: And then who was Ryan Shazier?
Speaker 6: Went right for Shazer because the Cowboys were going to
Speaker 6: take him, But.
Speaker 3: Steelers yes, and had the next Aaron Donald was not
Speaker 3: the Rams first pick in that draft. They had the
Speaker 3: second overall pick. They took offensive tackle Greg Robinson, who
Speaker 3: did not let.
Speaker 2: Me see him.
Speaker 6: Can I find them somewhere probably about the third team
Speaker 6: several years.
Speaker 3: He hadn't been in the league. But so yeah, they
Speaker 3: hit on Aaron Donald won a great pick. That was well,
Speaker 3: second pick in the first round. Greg Robinson was their
Speaker 3: first number two overall. Who is the number one overall
Speaker 3: pick in two thousand and four team jadeveon Clowney?
Speaker 6: It wasn't Johnny football.
Speaker 3: Johnny football was what in the twenties football top three
Speaker 3: picks that year were Clowney, Greg Robinson, Blake Bortles went
Speaker 3: number three, Sammy Watkins number four, and finally we hit
Speaker 3: on one with number five, Khalil Mack.
Speaker 6: So the draft is not a perfect science.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's intelligent. Yeah, Brandon Cooks went number twenty
Speaker 3: in that draft.
Speaker 6: Well, and he's still playing.
Speaker 3: And he's still playing in his tenth year in the
Speaker 3: league as these are. And DeMarcus Lawrence went number thirty four.
Speaker 2: And then looks great, he still looks young.
Speaker 3: So four players in this game were in the top
Speaker 3: thirty four picks in that draft and their tenth year
Speaker 3: in the league. How tough is it to play ten
Speaker 3: years in this league? Ever since?
Speaker 4: It's tough, Yes, it's tough. The consistency has to be there.
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys these days, they have a
Speaker 4: couple of good seasons, they get a commercial and things
Speaker 4: of that nature, and now they're riding on their fame.
Speaker 4: Of course, here, we couldn't do that, not just myself.
Speaker 4: Michael Downs, you know, he couldn't. Mike had to make tackles,
Speaker 4: you know, every game to get the credit that he deserved.
Speaker 2: You know, you had guys like Dexter Kling.
Speaker 4: Scale good player, but injury prone, and so you don't
Speaker 4: have to just be good, you have to be healthy,
Speaker 4: and that's hard to do.
Speaker 6: Natean Frisco wants to point out that the Titans have
Speaker 6: been going downhill ever since they lost aj Bry. That
Speaker 6: is the fact to Philly, So give them all their players.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait for Dolly pardon man. That's gonna be Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I want to meet her. I want to meet her real.
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Speaker 2: I'll be there.
Speaker 3: Although I don't think she'll come on with tour here
Speaker 3: or don't you think they'll have a press conference before
Speaker 3: the game? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Will they let me in for a press squad?
Speaker 6: You just flash your badge?
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Speaker 3: It's been pretty cool the reaction every once had on
Speaker 3: that when it was announced. Oh, they love it. I
Speaker 3: love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just the longevity and how old is she now?
Speaker 3: Something older?
Speaker 6: I think she's getting close to eighty.
Speaker 2: Man, come on, she's still balling. That's good stuff.
Speaker 5: She's seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Seventy seven, you're talking about ten years, Bill, forget ten years.
Speaker 2: Come on, she's been balling for a long time.
Speaker 3: Make you what you got on your legal pad.
Speaker 6: I just wrote down that maybe Sean mcvail will be
Speaker 6: distracted worried about his kids.
Speaker 4: Okay, My thing is this. First of all, thank you guys.
Speaker 4: That's for teaching me so much more about the RAMS.
Speaker 4: I was so disappointed yesterday and the information that we shared.
Speaker 3: And I pointed out I was studying baseball.
Speaker 2: Job on my mind.
Speaker 5: You do you do any homework.
Speaker 3: And I just are talking defense.
Speaker 2: That's when they leave me and you we got this.
Speaker 2: I don't do homework when they're here.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I would like to know more about the
Speaker 4: offensive line.
Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm glad you asked that because I was
Speaker 3: talking because I was talking with Nate and Frisco this morning.
Speaker 3: Number seventy three on their offensive line. I said, this
Speaker 3: guy looks like Larry.
Speaker 2: Allen Steve Avila, Uh huh, out of you.
Speaker 3: In South Grand Prairie High School rookie second round drafting?
Speaker 3: What was Larry Allen? Where was he drafted? What round
Speaker 3: was the second second round?
Speaker 2: Nice number? It's not on a stake.
Speaker 3: Half put my tongue firmly in cheek When I say
Speaker 3: that he reminds me of Larry Allen. He does was
Speaker 3: where seventy three. His body kind of looks like Larry Allen,
Speaker 3: and he has been very impressive. He's not I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he's Larry Allen. Rayden Frisco. Nadien Frisco said, you
Speaker 3: need to go watch Larry Allen. You go find some
Speaker 3: video of Larry Allen before you come in here with that.
Speaker 3: But Steve Bobby Law though TCU and South Grand Prie
Speaker 3: High School. He has six three, three hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: two pounds and a walk in starter for the Rams
Speaker 3: at left guard.
Speaker 2: And see, this is where the game's going to be won.
Speaker 4: You know, That's why I'm glad we're talking about the
Speaker 4: D line and O line because they're going to try
Speaker 4: and keep our offense off the field. That's going to
Speaker 4: be their main goal defensively, keep us off the field
Speaker 4: so the offense can control the game with a smart
Speaker 4: quarterback like Matt Stafford.
Speaker 3: All right, would you like to know the history of
Speaker 3: their starting left tackle last week? Number seventy seven, Alaric Jackson.
Speaker 6: What a name.
Speaker 3: He was undrafted two years ago. Another undrafted guy out
Speaker 3: of Iowa two years ago.
Speaker 6: Joe note Boom.
Speaker 3: Joe Noteboom was drafted in the third round, but he
Speaker 3: was starting earlier this year, the product of Plano senior
Speaker 3: high school man.
Speaker 2: They just come in here taking all that exactly.
Speaker 3: But he was injured and actually against Pittsburgh did not
Speaker 3: have any offensive snaps, was active and had four special
Speaker 3: team snaps. So I'm not sure if Nope Boom is
Speaker 3: going to get back in that starting lineup at left tackle.
Speaker 6: That's what they got them listed as.
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe note Boom will be back, but Jackson
Speaker 3: has started the last three games at left tackle for them.
Speaker 3: Rob Havenstein is a second round pick, longtime starter at
Speaker 3: right tackle in his ninth year.
Speaker 2: In the league.
Speaker 3: Their center is Coleman Shelton, who they got off the
Speaker 3: practice squad from Arizona.
Speaker 6: Yep, you don't like to see this on your depth chart.
Speaker 6: It's as Coleman Shelton or Brian Allen. I've never seen
Speaker 6: an or before.
Speaker 3: And Brian Allen is a fourth round pick out of
Speaker 3: Michigan State in twenty eighteen and has only appeared in
Speaker 3: one game, so he's.
Speaker 6: Been that's a big ore then, huh uh huh.
Speaker 3: Although Brian Allen coming into the season, he was projected
Speaker 3: to be their starting center, so he's been battling an injury,
Speaker 3: and they're starting right guard Kevin Dotson, they acquired in
Speaker 3: a trade from Pittsburgh in late August when they saw
Speaker 3: they were having some issues on their offensive line. So there,
Speaker 3: that gets you up to speed on their offensive line.
Speaker 4: And my next question is how will they handle our
Speaker 4: defensive line.
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 6: They better not handle it well if this team plans
Speaker 6: on winning, because in my mind, you worry about Cooper
Speaker 6: Cup and you worry about Pooka Nakua. But the way
Speaker 6: you stopped him is getting Stafford's face and you.
Speaker 4: Never you never missed miss pronounced Pooka's name, Pooka.
Speaker 2: You're good, you got his You got that down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't ask me hard names he can pronounce. Don't
Speaker 6: ask me about his back.
Speaker 2: Austin Chamel been scornic.
Speaker 3: Oh for Cooper, Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: For Pooka, Pooka, Pooka.
Speaker 3: How about number five?
Speaker 6: Number five to to Well, you think I can't say
Speaker 6: to to No?
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. Last first series of last game, he had
Speaker 3: two drops like number ten. What's going on? Cooper. I
Speaker 3: guarantee you Cooper Cup, whether it was on the jugs
Speaker 3: machine or whatever, he has spent more time this week.
Speaker 6: I mean they didn't, they didn't massage the ball well
Speaker 6: before they you know, they got it.
Speaker 3: Talk about a guy who's going to come out balling
Speaker 3: this week, it's gonna be Cooper Cup after making two
Speaker 3: drops in the first and he only had two catches
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 4: And we talked about how they really like to use
Speaker 4: Cooper and Pooka in regards to the down in distance.
Speaker 4: They're not trying to go down the field necessarily. Of
Speaker 4: course they can because Matthew Stafford can sling it and
Speaker 4: these guys run great routes, intermediate and deep routes. But
Speaker 4: it seems like they're using their passing game for their
Speaker 4: running game. I think we talked yesterday about Pooker had
Speaker 4: fifteen catches, but it wasn't even for one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty yards. It was less than ten yards of catch.
Speaker 4: To me as a dB, I'm looking at that and
Speaker 4: saying he's running all short routes in the the media routes, Well.
Speaker 6: He only averages thirteen yards of catch, right.
Speaker 2: Well, that's good. Thirteen yards of catch is good.
Speaker 6: So maybe maybe the ball was slick or something. Cup
Speaker 6: couldn't catch it. You know, they only give him so
Speaker 6: much time to prepare the footballs before.
Speaker 3: Okay, so not because of the weather, but because your slick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've got to prepare them, not because of the
Speaker 6: PA and they only get how about this, they only
Speaker 6: get three kicking balls prepared, So you work on the
Speaker 6: one that you're going to use, the second one some
Speaker 6: If you lose two of the footballs, that third one
Speaker 6: probably not been worked one. Now you're kicking a slick football.
Speaker 2: That doesn't even registered to me.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean anything in case you lose is three balls,
Speaker 4: that's not good.
Speaker 6: If you lose two of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just didn't know three balls like a
Speaker 4: bad kick that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean three balls. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that that was a big deal.
Speaker 5: Speaking of kicking, the Rams did add Lucas have riskic
Speaker 5: have riskic correct.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying we don't have to know how to
Speaker 3: pronounce his name until he actually plays it.
Speaker 5: They have a kicker, yep, she was on the Browns
Speaker 5: practice squad.
Speaker 6: He has not kicked in an NFL game, and that's
Speaker 6: why we haven't learned how to pronounce this. Probably the
Speaker 6: reason supposed to come out with that, Probably the reason
Speaker 6: why they worked out Mason Crosby too, just in case
Speaker 6: they didn't like what showed up during the week that
Speaker 6: you know that you got a kicker that hasn't kicked
Speaker 6: in the game, and the Cowboys have a kicker that's
Speaker 6: sixteen in a row right.
Speaker 2: Now to start as let's let's leave it up to
Speaker 2: that hopefully. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: Seems pretty steady mentally too.
Speaker 2: You see the backup for the bet Brett ripping? Who
Speaker 2: Brett oh ripping?
Speaker 3: Nephew? I think that Mark. I think it's Mark Rippin.
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe it is. Yeah, Mark was the beast.
Speaker 6: You know, I actually saw a college game they almost
Speaker 6: ran out of football's.
Speaker 2: How many do they have? Three?
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 6: Thessouri was playing at Wisconsin, and the student tradition was
Speaker 6: when they kicked the ball into the student section at
Speaker 6: one end of the stadium, they would pass it up
Speaker 6: the stands and throw it out over right over the stadium.
Speaker 6: And I was sitting there going and they were killing Missouri,
Speaker 6: and my lead was the only hope Missouri's defense had
Speaker 6: to stop Wisconsin was they run out of football? Scored football?
Speaker 6: Fifty yeah, fifty some points they score.
Speaker 3: You got a bunch of football, some kids playing.
Speaker 6: With it, sort of sort of what happened with Drew
Speaker 6: Pearson's Hill Mary touchdown. He threw it out of the stadium.
Speaker 6: Somebody's got it and they don't.
Speaker 2: Even know what it is. They have no idea.
Speaker 3: You know what, I have an idea. We are out
Speaker 3: of time on this, all right.
Speaker 6: Throw the football out of this.
Speaker 3: All right, and so we will have a fabulous football
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