1 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: That was my attempt to make a Godzilla so out. 2 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion. 3 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: And I'm Rthy Knight. 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: And welcome to a bite sized, but a giant kid 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: you mouth bite sized episode of x RA revision of 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: and pop culture. 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: In this episode, we have been waiting to talk about it. 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: You guys are waiting to hear it. It's everything Godzilla. 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of Godzilla since we were lost 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: in yours, so we had to talk about all of it. 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Folks. 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: You may not know this, but you are lucky enough, 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: as am I, to be in the presence today of 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 3: a bona fide Godzilla expert, an expert in all things Kaiju, 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: in all things giant, nuclear fire breathing lizard. 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: That is our. 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Number one Godzilla brainiac. Rosie Night, Rosie, are you ready 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: to have multiple questions about all the recent Godzilla projects 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: thrown at you like Tokyo train cars sailing across the 21 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: city scape? 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I am I, as I am an expert. I'm 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: speaking in my NPR voice, but yes, no, I'm ready 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: throw those train cars at me. I'm wearing my Manila, 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: son of Godzilla Tisha. Just to prove my expertise and 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm ready to answer all your Godzilla questions. 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: Here are the projects which we will be discussing today 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: on Apple TV. Plus Monarch Legacy of Monster created by 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: Matt Fraction and Chris Black. 30 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: We have the Oscar. 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Winning film Godzilla Minus one from Toho Studios, written and 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: directed by Takashi Yamazaki, recently released in theaters. Godzilla ex 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: King Kong New Empire Well from Legendary Pictures, directed by 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: Adam Wingard, is the sequel to Godzilla Versus cong part 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: of the Monster Verse. And then on the comic side, Oh, 36 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: it will be plug time Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: on IDW, of course, written by Rosie Knight, art by 38 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: Oliver Ono, letters and colors by Jody Trautman and Nick Barrita. 39 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: Who Next, we're gonna dive into our recap of Apple 40 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: TV's Monarch Legacy of Monsters. But first some news. 41 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: Seeing as it is the seventieth anniversary of Godzilla, we 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: are getting a smorgas board of Godzilla news. First, a 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: baby Godzilla sized news update. I'm sad about this one 44 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: because I spoke to him and he told me what 45 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: his plans were for the next movie, and it sounded amazing. 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: But Adam Wingar, director and co writer of Godzilla X. 47 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Kong or Godzilla Kong as you're supposed to say it, 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: the New Empire and Godzilla Versus Kong, will not be 49 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: helming the third movie. It's not because of anything scary 50 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: or bad. It's just because he's making a movie called Onslaught, 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: not to do with Marvel, and it means the schedules 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: clash because obviously New Empire is a huge success and 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure Legendary just wants to make the movie now. 54 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: Also today, this is a big one if you like it, 55 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: if you're an indie gamer, if you've been playing these games, 56 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Mint Rocket's award winning game Dave the Diver is getting 57 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: a brand new Godzilla theme DLCs. 58 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Didn't see that. 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: One coming, love it. Excited to see it. The DLC 60 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: is completely free, but only available to play for a 61 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: limited time May twenty third till November twenty third due 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: to licensing rights with Toho, which I will say is 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: exciting because that probably means Toho is planning on some 64 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: kind of Godzilla video game, because why else would they 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: limit it otherwise, So I would like to see that. 66 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: And what will you do in the game. You will 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: help an injured Godzilla about the deep sea Kaiju a bearer, 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: a bearer who may or may not appear in my 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: upcoming graphic novel Monster in Summer Camp. He's like a shrimp, 70 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: basically giant shrimp. 71 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: Now, pre order it now and you will get to 72 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: have some new gameplay with a submarine. 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 2: And it looks really fun. 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: That is a game, a beautiful pick slurk game of 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: the kind of cutesy, relaxing game genre where you basically 76 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: dive in the ocean and then run a sushi restaurant. 77 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: So I wonder if will Godzilla help you acquire fish 78 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: for the restaurant? 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: Kaiju? 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: She who's to say? 81 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: Okay, let's dive into our recap for Apple TV's Monarch 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: Legacy of Monsters. Okay, tell us about this Godzilla project. 83 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: It is actually like hard to put in toowards how 84 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: good this show is. 85 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: It is it It's unbelievably good. And basically it sets 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: one year. 87 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: After the legendary Monster Verse Godzilla movie, which came out 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen and starred Aaron Taylor. Johnson and Brian 89 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: Cranston momentarily. And so this is set in twenty fifteen, 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: and you're basically living in the wake of what they 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: call g Day and you have our hero is played 92 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: by Anna Sui who plays Kate Randa, you might recognize 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: that surname, and she goes off to find her father 94 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: in Japan, who was a Monarch agent, and she discovers 95 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: he had a secret family and she has a half 96 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: brother called Kentaro, and as they investigate where their father 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: hero she has gone, they get entangled in this incredible 98 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 2: adventure alongside Monarch, including the wonderfully eccentric and ageless Monarch 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: agent k Russell as me. So that's kind of your 100 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: modern day. And then the fantastic thing about this show 101 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: is it is told within two timelines. So then you 102 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: have Wyatt Russell playing youngle in the fifties and you 103 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: sort of get to see how Monarch evolved and how 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: it became the militarized anti Kaiju unit that it is today, 105 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: and how its origins were actually so much more evolved 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: and holistic. It was more about disinvestigating the kaiju and 107 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: learning about them rather than or as they called in 108 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: the Monster Verse, the Titans, and it is honestly just 109 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: blew me away. So Matt Fraction obviously big comic book name. 110 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: There also a lot of the team. We had Marico Tamaki, 111 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: another legendary comic book creator. So this was just such 112 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: a delightful show and the reveals as they go through 113 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: a fantastic Now. I will say, if you love a 114 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: big monster smashing things up, this might not necessarily immediately 115 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: appeal to you, because the monster action is secondary to 116 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: the human action. But if you love a good drama, 117 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: and you love a family intrigue, and you love Anna 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Sawai because you have been watching Shogun, one of the 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: best shows of the last decade, then this is such 120 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: a fantastic show to watch. And it does build out 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: a lot of what we know about the Monster Verse 122 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: in this interesting time period kind of post Godzilla and 123 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: then pre the rest of the films in the Monster Verse. 124 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Also starring Shogun's tech a hero hero oh as ANSI's father, 125 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: mysterious father. What has he been up to? 126 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: What's he been up to? Hiroshi Randa, what are you doing? 127 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: What's going on? 128 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: It's so good and Tamlin Tamta is in it as 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Kate Randers as Caroline Rander, who's Kate Randers mum so 131 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: Karai kid legend. There there's so many fantastic actors, but 132 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people in the whole show is 133 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Kei Ko, who is the scientist who is essentially the 134 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: founder of Monarch with Bill Randa and Lee Shaw, and 135 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 2: there's a fantastic love triangle element there, and she's played 136 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: by Marie Amamoto. And the emotional human stories they tell 137 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: in this are mind blowing, especially because everyone knows, especially 138 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: in the American Godzilla films, the human stories are not 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: always the best, so yeah, so this really contradicts that. 140 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: It also kind of acts as a bit of a 141 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: response to the criticisms that people have had about how 142 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: the American Godzilla films are often like we're the Army 143 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: and we're gonna kill Godzilla and then that's kind and 144 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: this is a really kind of more interesting hard sci 145 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: fi and it has Kissey Clemmens, who I also love, 146 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: who's fantastic and she gets a really interesting role here 147 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: as kind of like a hacker. And yeah, it's just 148 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: one of the best TV shows I watched in the 149 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: last year. It's really fantastic you know what I really 150 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: appreciate it is it's obviously a tie in project, right 151 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: you mentioned comes after it's set in the timeline after. 152 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen's Godzilla movie. You have some tie ins to 153 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: cong Skull Island. 154 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: But you don't have to have seen any of that stuff, 155 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: Like this is a standalone story. If you've seen that stuff, 156 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: those times are going to be like, oh wow, that's cool. 157 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: But if you haven't, don't worry about it, because this 158 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: is just a interesting espionage family drama set in the 159 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: Godzilla universe. 160 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think something that I spoke to Chris Black, Yeah, 161 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: I think I'd speak to him five gen I spoke Chris, 162 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: I did it. But the interesting thing there is like 163 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: he I think he talked about it being like a 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: ground up view Like when we watch these movies, it's 165 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: often from the Godzilla perspective. You're smashing things things a 166 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: black but this is all about looking up at the 167 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: monsters and what would it be like if you lived 168 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: in a world. We get to see things like in 169 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Japan they have Godzilla siren raids to practice for if 170 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: he's going to come, and and there are little things 171 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: about life living under a kind of Titan or Kaiju 172 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: threat that is really interestingly built out here in a 173 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: kind of slice of life grounded way that I think 174 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: really adds to the films. 175 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: The other thing I really liked as well, and it's 176 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: a thing that our next project that we're going to 177 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: discuss also shares, is that they brought the fear home 178 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: in Monarch Legacy of Monsters, the PTSD that you would 179 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: have from witnessing one of these attacks, and there's so 180 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: much fear in our next project. Let's move to the 181 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: movie theater with Godzilla minus one Toho Studios, written and 182 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: directed by Takashi Yamazaki, winner of course of the Oscar 183 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: for Best Special Effects. And the thing that stands out 184 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: to me from Godzilla minus one is the screaming. There's 185 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: the there's so and it's absolutely appropriate. 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Characters in this movie are. 187 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: Like throat, raw screaming with fear all the time shaking 188 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: because it is the scariest thing you've ever seen. This 189 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: is like Godzilla and authentic Godzilla at its scariest. Set 190 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: in the post World War Two, the years directly following 191 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: World War Two, Japan under American occupation and Godzilla emerges. 192 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: Tell us about Godzilla minus one. 193 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you summed it up perfectly. The title 194 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: minus one is because after World War Two and the 195 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: horrific attacks on Japan, Japan was at zero. It had 196 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: to rebuild. And then this is imagining what is worse 197 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: than zero. It's if Godzilla emerges and just as you're 198 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: trying to rebuild, you have to deal with this in terrifying, 199 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: entirely new threat. This is very much in the mold 200 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: of the nineteen fifty four original Godzilla. It's Godzilla as 201 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: a threat of war. Godzilla is a threat of nuclear war. 202 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: Godzilla as this monstrous form that is going to force 203 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: you to face up to your fears and discover how 204 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: you feel about your family and your country, and something 205 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: that I found just totally. Also, I just have to 206 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: say to Kashi Yamazaki, the director and writer. He was 207 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: also head of. 208 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: The FX, so he's crazy hats every hat and he 209 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: did this on a budget of ten to twelve million. 210 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: You have, I mean that part of it. 211 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: There's only a few moments where you're like, there's a 212 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: scene with you know, an elevated train moving across Tokyo 213 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: where you're like, okay, I can kind of see it, 214 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: but the rest of the time one hundred percent. You 215 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: never feel any kind of budgetary constriction at all. 216 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Looks fantastic, Yeah, And I think like one of the 217 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: most one of the things again that this does that. 218 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: As we're talking about that Monarch does that. These movies 219 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: have often been critiqued for even some of the Japanese movies, 220 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: though I often love the human characters in those, this 221 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 2: movie he has a really strong human storyline, which is 222 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: Koichi is a he's a kamikazi pilot and he basically 223 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: is too scared to do his duty for his country. 224 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: And he says his plane is malfunctioning, and he lands 225 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: on an island to have it fixed, and he sees 226 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: an attack by Godzilla and it's terrifying and he can't 227 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: bring himself to shoot it because he kind of has PTSD. 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: And there is a lot of rumination and exploration here 229 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: of PTSD and the cost of war. And something I 230 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: actually found really powerful in this movie is there is 231 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: a lot of critique of the Japanese government and the 232 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: way that soldiers are treated and the way that war 233 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: is approached, and there is this really beautiful found family storyline, 234 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: and all of that makes these Godzilla attacks even more 235 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: terrifying because you actually care about the people who might 236 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: be harmed, and it makes the success or the fight 237 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: against Godzilla incredibly rip roaring, and everyone in the cinema 238 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: is kind of cheering, and you got grown men just 239 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: crying in the cinema. This is a very emotional movie 240 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: and I just thought it's fantastic. I mean, this is Look, 241 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: the last Japanese Godzilla movie was Shing Godzilla, which is 242 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: widely seen as one of the best Godzilla movies, but 243 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: it is very experimental. The design of Godzilla is extremely strange. 244 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: It has different evolutions, some of which are incredibly grotesque, 245 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of the movie, as is the way 246 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: with a lot of recent Japanese Godzilla movies, is set 247 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: focused on humans because of budgetary constraints, so a lot 248 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: of it is like the bureaucracy of Japan trying to 249 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: deal with this new Godzilla attack. And it's seems still 250 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: as a highlight in the sphere, but it's very much 251 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: I think for Godzilla fans or fans of cinema in 252 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: that kind of mold. This movie is so blockbuster, huge 253 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: event film that that's why it ended up up becoming 254 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, this smash hit, making over one hundred million 255 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: dollars at the box office at the fifth highest grossing 256 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: Japanese film of twenty twenty three and one of the 257 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: highest grossing Japanese films ever in America. And it is 258 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: just so incredible. And the thing that's very interesting here 259 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: is we get to see Godzilla as he was, and 260 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: then we get to see Godilla post this new clear bomb, 261 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: and it is really just such a fantastic, wonderful movie. 262 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: And it doesn't rely on you know, oh this other monster, 263 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: isn't it, or oh, this you know Cameo or this connection. 264 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: This is a straight down the line disaster movie. And 265 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: what they achieved with it and that fear and the 266 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: sound design is so spectacular, and I'm not surprised it 267 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: became a huge success. I think that's just absolutely justified. 268 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: I think this movie is the platonic ideal of how 269 00:15:53,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: you present the monster. The evolution of all of the 270 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: set piece scenes to the end when you start seeing 271 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: Godzilla in the in the stark daylight, like all of 272 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: him is amazing, and you start with like in shadow 273 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: you don't know what's going on, and. 274 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: Of the body. 275 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just the big foot coming down and smashing jeeps 276 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: and things like what's going on? Then you have what 277 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: I think is clearly an homage Jaws. 278 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Where you see portion, you see a portion of. 279 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: The of Godzilla, but what you see is absolutely terrifying. 280 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: And then you know in the final set pieces, there 281 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: he is, and he's in the city and he's kicking trains. 282 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Across the cityscape. 283 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: Just incredible, an unbelievable achievement. 284 00:16:46,520 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break, and we're back. 285 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: We move to the other film, another entry into the 286 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: Monster Verse Godzilla Verse, King Kong New Empire, a sequel 287 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: to the King Kong franchise and the Godzilla franchise tie 288 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: in Godzilla Versus Kong by Legendary Pictures, directed by Adam Winguard. 289 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: Tell us about this newest entry into the Monster Verse, 290 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: and will Godzilla minus one ever cross over the Monster 291 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: Verse over Kire or do those two things are are 292 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: they just forever separate? 293 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting question, So I will first 294 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: explain so as I have learned, so this is a 295 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: hilarious trend. The title for this movie is Godzilla x. 296 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: Kong The New Empire, but you don't pronounce the X, 297 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: I got told that an official press release. So it's 298 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: Godzilla Kong the New Empire. Okay, So now I did 299 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: a really fun press junkit for this five G and 300 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: as Brian Tyree Henry said, the ex implies that they 301 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: do like a collab. You know, they're not. It's not 302 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: Masses anymore right now, they're teaming up. You know, they're bros. Like, 303 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: it's not it's not who's going to win in a fight, 304 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: it's who are they going to fight against? So if 305 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: you didn't know, Godzilla Versus Kong came out during COVID 306 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: was actually a massive success. Even though it was day 307 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: to day on HBO. It ended up making I think 308 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: like forty or fifty million dollars, which for COVID times 309 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: was really good, especially when people could stream it at home. 310 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: That was also directed by Adam Wingard. It was a 311 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: hard sci fi kind of turn, had a lot of 312 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: bisexual lighting. They were going into the center of the earth. 313 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: Alex Scarless God was in it. It was totally out there 314 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: and people just really responded to it in a way 315 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: that I don't even think Legendary was expecting. So this 316 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: is a sequel to that, and Essentially you have Rebecca 317 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: Hall who's returning, Brian Harry Henry who's returning, Kaylee Hottle 318 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: who plays this young character called Jea who communicates with 319 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: Kong and lived with him on Skull Island, And this 320 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: is essentially just a completely that shit crazy sci fi movie. 321 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: Dan Stevens plays a Titan vet as in a veterinarian 322 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: for Titans, and we meet him when he swings down 323 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: to do to extract a bad tooth that Kong has, 324 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: And essentially the status quo that we have is Kong 325 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: lives in the Hollow Earth. So in this the Hollow 326 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: Earth conspiracies are real. The Hollow Earth which was found 327 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: by Bill Randa, who is the grandparent of the Randa 328 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: kids from Monarch, and Kong lives in the Hollow Earth, 329 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: and Godzilla lives on the surface world and in the seas, 330 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: and he is basically there to stop any Titan catastrophes, 331 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: but he's still like causing problems, Like Godzilla's like going 332 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: to sleep in the Colisseum and he's not. You know, 333 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: I would be happy if he was here, but not 334 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: everyone's happy he's here. So Monic is kind of dealing 335 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: with these two different worlds, and they have to go 336 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: back into the Hollow Earth to get Kong to team 337 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: up with Godzilla against this new threat, which is a 338 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: giant ape called the scar King, and he rules over 339 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 2: this kind of indentured servitude race of apes in the 340 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: depths of the Hollow Earth, and he's been trying to 341 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: get to the surface world to take it over. And 342 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: this is a really fun throwback. It's definitely I spoke 343 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: to Adam Wingard a couple of times, who's a fantastic director. 344 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: He directed a lot of cool horror movies. He directed 345 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: The Guest, which is so fantastic with Dan Stevens, so 346 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: this is a little bit of a reunion for them. 347 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: And this is very much inspired by the later Shower 348 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: era Godzilla movies. It's those wacky, campy fun stories that 349 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: you remember when you're a kid. Everything that happens in 350 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: this movie is a bombastic surprise. You get unexpected monsters 351 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: who show up, we get some really cool law building. 352 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: Gea gets a really focused role, which I love because 353 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: Kayley Hole is a fantastic young deaf actress and it's 354 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: awesome to see her leading this franch Kong also gets 355 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: a cool robotic arm called his Beast Arm, which is 356 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: like completely bonkers, and it's just I think something that 357 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: I really love that I've seen the internet embrace if 358 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: you are a Godzilla fan, Godzilla's been around since nineteen 359 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: fifty four, right, there are so many different versions of Godzilla. 360 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: Manilla is a campy, silly version. You have this most 361 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: obvious original Godzilla movie is an unbelievably dark and reflective 362 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: treatise on the horrors of war. But you can also 363 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: have mecha Godzilla fighting King Gnora in space, you know. 364 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: So what's fantastic is to see people understand that Godzilla 365 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: minus one can exist and it can make a ton 366 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: of money, and it can be this really heartfelt, fantastic 367 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: masterpiece that wins Oscars, and two months later you can 368 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: have Godzilla Kong the New Empire come out and you 369 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: can enjoy both of them. 370 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: And that's actually the point of these movies and the 371 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: power of what Godzilla can do is you can tell 372 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: so many different stories within this world and that's why 373 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: it has been keeping people so engaged for you know, 374 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: seven decades, And I think that's what's really cool. 375 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: And at first I saw a lot of memes of 376 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: people being like, oh, it's gonna look so bad after 377 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Godzilla Minus one, and then I kind of sort of 378 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: started to see people change their minds and be like, 379 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: you can enjoy both guys, Like you can have the 380 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: point of the Godzilla franchises, you can have all these 381 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: different versions. So in that case, I've been very happy 382 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: to see people embrace that, and this was a huge success. 383 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: So I think we can expect to see another movie 384 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: in wing Guards part of the Monster Verse. And he 385 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: did tell me that his hope if he did a 386 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: third one of these films would be to do for 387 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: Godzilla what he did for Kong here and what he 388 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: did for Cong here was kind of look at his 389 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: roots and find him a family and kind of give 390 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: him that role as king. So I think for the 391 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: next Monster Verse movie, if we do get one, which 392 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: is quite likely, I think this is almost its overfour 393 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: one hundred mens dollars already, we'll get that big Godzilla 394 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: story where Godzilla is the focus and we learn about 395 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Godzilla's origins in this legendary monster use and. 396 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: Then finally we go to the comic space in the 397 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: longtime home of the Godzilla ip idw it's trushing and 398 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: the comic Godzilla Monster Island Summer Camp written by none 399 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: other than yourself, with art by the wonderful Olive Oil. 400 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: Oh He's amazing. 401 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: Letters by Jody Troutman, colors by Nick Marino, A wonderful 402 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: project featuring everybody's favorite child, Godzilla. 403 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Tell Us about tell Us about this? 404 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: Well, I feel very honored I got to write this. 405 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: I love Manila. I have a Manilla tattoo. So years 406 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: ago now, when Jazz Joyner was working on IDW, they 407 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: were looking for Godzilla pictures and I came up with 408 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: this idea for a kid's graphic novel that was called 409 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Godzilla Monstra Island Summer Camp. And it was basically like, 410 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: what if Manila was at summer camp? Right, because I've 411 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: never been summer camp, and I think it seems cute, 412 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: and they really liked it, and then you know, life 413 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: happens and did and it takes a long time to 414 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: get licensing and stuff like that, and a year later 415 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: they said, oh, actually we're gonna make it, so I said, 416 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: oh great, and then that's been like the last two 417 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: years of our lives has been doing this and Nick 418 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: ended up getting brought on to do color assists to 419 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: help Oliver finish the book. So those two got this 420 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: really great rapport and made something really beautiful. And Jody's 421 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: letters are just out of this world. So basically it's 422 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: about our leader is a girl called Zelda who's named 423 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: after very famous syndicated cartoonists called Jackie Zelder ORMs, and 424 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: she goes to a summer camp that's supposed to be 425 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: an art summer camp, but when she gets there, they've 426 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: turned it into a kind of maniacal high tech sports 427 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: summer camp, sports saus sport anna and she's less than 428 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: happy about it, but luckily she has a great cabin 429 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: with a couple of really cool mates, Ramiko, whos named 430 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: after Ramiko Takahashi and Weezy who's named after Louis Simonson 431 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: some other great comic creators that I love. And together 432 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: they have this adventure that leads them to a strange 433 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: portal where they discover that the summer camp is built 434 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: on Monster Island, the famed Godzilla location. Zelda meets Manila 435 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: and they realize that something is going on with more 436 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: ink summer camp that is making the monsters on Monster 437 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: Island angry, and they have to find out what happens 438 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: and maybe commit some eco terrorism on the way to 439 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: help them escape. And we got to have so much 440 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: fun here. There's so many monsters we get to introduce, 441 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: both idw I mean, oh, we've had some great editors. Obviously, 442 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: Jazz was the one who picked it up, and then 443 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: David Marriott, who is a sonic die hard who's now 444 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: over at Boom. He was on the book for a while, 445 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: and then Jake Williams is the guy who's really gotten 446 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: us over the finish line. And they've all been so 447 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: supportive and great, and Toho as well, was just so 448 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: open to and into this story and they were really cool. 449 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the only notes I got from Toho, 450 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: which was so good, was like Godzilla can't give a 451 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: thumbs up. They were like, he can't do that, okay, 452 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh yeah. I was like, I've 453 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: seen him do it, but like I understand in the 454 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: context of this book that he can't do it. But 455 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: they did let Manila wave at one point because they 456 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: said it was an emotional moment, so I was like, 457 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: I got that one in there. But yeah, it's beautiful. 458 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: The book is so gorgeous and I'm just so honored 459 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: that we got to tell this super fun graphic novel, 460 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: which I think is like the first IDW Godzilla Kids 461 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: graphic novel. It's not going going to be comics first. 462 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: You can't buy it in the single issues in the 463 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: comic shop. It's just one hundred page graphic novel and 464 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: we got to do some really fun how to make 465 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 2: a comic stuff In the back. I got to do 466 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: biographies of each of them cartoonists and comic creators who 467 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: inspired the main characters. Has just been a total dream. 468 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: It drops in August, so pre ordered now if you 469 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: are interested in the art. Is just absolutely delightful. That 470 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: is Godzilla, Monster Island Summer Camp on IDW. Let's go 471 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: to Who's Who. Every show we close the show with 472 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: a variety of fast moving segments. Today it's Who's Who, 473 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: in which we talk about some of our favorite weird 474 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: characters from a characters from a given universe. In this episode, Rosie, 475 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you to power rank, yes, your top 476 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: three favorite Monster Island, Godzilla adjacent friends and foes characters 477 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: from the Godzilla universe. 478 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick brick and we're back, Rosie. 479 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I hand it to you. 480 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So probably the most powerful character in the Godzilla universe. 481 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: It's hard. I would say that Geigan is pretty high 482 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: up there. He has a very strange blades as part 483 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: of his body. He's quite quite a powerful guy. I 484 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: would say Mecha Godzilla, I think is a number classic 485 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: mecha Godzilla. I would say we go so three Geigan, okay, 486 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: two Mecha Godzilla because he is like really powerful and 487 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: he is like a cool robot. One. I probably just 488 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: have to go for Mathra because I think Mathra is 489 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: she always comes in at the last moment. She often 490 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: there to save Godzilla. She can kind of power Godzilla 491 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: up by wrapping him in her wings, so I think 492 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: she is really up there. Obviously, Godzilla's the original boy, 493 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: but just for fun, I'm gonna leave him out this time. 494 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: Some other big ones that have to shout out so 495 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 2: that Godzilla bros don't hate me. Just destroy very very 496 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: powerful coy kiro who's like a cool Godzilla with like 497 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: guns on his back. You know. Kingodora obviously up there, 498 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: but I. 499 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Do think like that's one of my favorites. 500 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kingidora is like very cool, but his. 501 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: No love for uh no, love for the smog monster. 502 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: Hit or you know what I think, sadlygenic, I actually 503 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: love I love Herdora. He almost actually got he he 504 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: almost made it into our book, but he was not 505 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: the right fit for our ecological tale. But I do. 506 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: I would say he's probably quite weak when it comes 507 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: to his actual powers. Sadly, but the movie, the movie 508 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: is incredible, and I will say, uh, Godzilla Kong. New 509 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: Empire director Adam Wingard did say Her Doora is like 510 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: one of the movies that for him is why Godzilla 511 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: will always top Kong when it comes to like the 512 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: best movies, because it is so experimental and strange, I mean, hilariously. 513 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of weak Godzilla characters, like no surprises, 514 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: Like I love Nilla, who, to be honest, can just 515 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: like blow a smoke and it's always like rolling over 516 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: somebody's tail all the fire. 517 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: It's kind of a fiery he's doing his best. 518 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: And I also like Kamakouris is in our book, who's 519 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: like this really cool giant kind of like praying Mantis, 520 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: because that's like a classic character who is in who 521 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: lives on Monster Island, but realistically very weak, like I 522 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: don't really think he's doing much. Ibira giant Shrimp, I'm 523 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: a big fan of him. Also probably not one of 524 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: your strongest characters. I mean, throughout the years, there's been 525 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: so many outrageous kind of like you know, Jet Jaguar. 526 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: I think, right, he's just really really cool and he 527 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: can fly and he can change size, but like, what 528 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: else has he really got going on? Like also probably 529 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: quite weak, sadly, but there is just there's so many 530 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: of these characters. I think that's part of why people 531 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: love it so much. It's so easy to find your favorite. 532 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: Is it Hidora? Is it someone weird? Is it Kyro? 533 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: You know, kids love Cayrou because he's like super cool? 534 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: Is it Geiger? Who? Is it Biolante, who is literally 535 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: no joke, a DNA combination of a scientist, dead daughter 536 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: and a rose, and then she becomes this kind of 537 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: crazy monstrous beast whose spores can create monsters, I mean, unbelievable. 538 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: Mathra is probably the most overpowered person in the franchise, 539 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: so I do believe that she's well, But then you 540 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: have weird things like Monster X. You know, there's so 541 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: many good, weird characters that I think, really any poweranking 542 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: is kind of so subjective. I once ranked all the 543 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: Godzilla movies and that was just the most subjective thing ever. 544 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: I know some people were in there like what is 545 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: wrong with you? But that's kind of the fun of 546 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: all of this stuff. And yeah, so I would say 547 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: I will stand by the fact that I do think 548 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Mathra is probably the most powerful monster in the Godzilla vers. 549 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: And also as for you, you know you mentioned earlier, 550 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: and I do think people think about this a lot, 551 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: the Legendary Monster Verse and the Toho Verse, like ever 552 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: kind of crossover. The answer is, hypothetically yes, because Legendary 553 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: licenses everything from Toho, so everything has to be approved 554 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: by Toho the same way in our comics it does. 555 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: And we've seen Legendary already do some really interesting crossovers. 556 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: They recently did the Godzilla Justice League crossover, which has 557 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: been like so popular, it's been just the total smash 558 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: for DC comics and Legendary. So I think there's always potential. 559 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: And I mean in the past, the Americanized Godzilla, who 560 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: is you know from the Godzilla movie with the American 561 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: the very hilarious American casting of Sarah Jesscamarka's husband Matthew Broderick. Yes, 562 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: that Godzilla has actually featured in Japanese Godzilla movies getting killed, 563 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: so you know there is a precedent, and I do 564 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: believe that with the success of what's going on, it's 565 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: unlikely that would necessarily be like a minus one, but 566 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we could 567 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: see some kind of portal space where those streams may cross. 568 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: But who knows. 569 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, Rosie, thank you for blessing us with your copious 570 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: Godzilla knowledge. 571 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: Always say I'd love to be Godzilla ring. 572 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: This has been our massive, bite sized Godzilla episode of 573 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: X ray Vision. 574 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: See you next time. Bye. 575 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kisumsion and Rosie 576 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive 577 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer 578 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and 579 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez. 580 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman 581 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: and Heidi a Disco moderator.