WEBVTT - Beating The Book: Guessing Lines Week 17 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:11.799 Check it down, man, now down. Then it is a 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.040 numbers game right here on a Monday morning Skill Alexander 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.520 Week seventeen Guessing Lines. It's our final guessing lines of 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.240 the year, tribute to the old Startust radio show of 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.599 the same ILK back with Roxy Rox Borrow back in 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.760 the day, where typically I'll try to guess the lines 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.760 and then Christie'll tell me what he's putting up at 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.640 the end of the show. But this being Week seventeen, 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.760 this is squirrely, So it's basically an excuse just to 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.120 talk to Christy about football for two hours because I 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.839 don't know how many lines are actually are actually up. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.040 Let's bring him in. Uh he is my He runs 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.720 the South Point Hotel Casino, ladies and gentlemen. He has 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.879 a brand new, funky intro for guessing lines, and it 0:00:50.920 --> 0:01:04.959 goes a little something like this, yeah, yeah, all right, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.039 maybe not so brand new. We played it a couple 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.280 of times before. It's Chris Andrews. Everybody runs the south 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:16.320 Point hell to Casino. Good morning to you, Christie's how 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.600 you doing? I warn you in the vance? Who is that? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.679 What music is that? Gil? Somebody I had never heard of? 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.440 No No, No, I had nothing to do with that music. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.640 What was that, Jason? It was just generic. We can't 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.679 hear you, Jason, generic marching Eric fired up marching band, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.600 beginning of the game music. All right, generic marching band, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.479 beginning of the game music. There you go, Chrissie us 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.240 there to Okay, So I warn you in advance this 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.399 by texts. Also, I could have verbal diarrhea on some 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.120 of these games. And your response was good because there 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.920 are there might not be lines for half of these. Yeah, 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.160 I know. I mean I wrote him down last night, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.480 and you know I made my numbers. Yeah, let's this way. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.920 I put in my power ratings on every game. You know, 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.120 it did the addition and subtraction necessary. But you know, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.840 still we don't know who's a lot of games, we 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.079 don't know who's really playing. Who isn't h you know, coaches, 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.600 just a warning coaches lie on a week like this. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.760 And the other note that I would make is sometimes 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.359 needs the game is the most overrated thing in sports 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.959 gambling period. Yes, if you if you, as the Great 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.639 Dr Bob One said, if you're in a must win situation, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.320 you must not be that good was his comment. Is 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.800 what you're saying that But The way it's set up 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.480 this weekend is that the early time slot on Sunday again, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.800 no Thursday, no Saturday, know nothing before Sunday. The early 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.919 time slot on Sunday are basically the teams that are 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.720 a f C UH specific in terms of whether they 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.000 will be in or out of the playoffs, so who 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.359 will get those final spots in the a f C layoffs. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.880 Those teams are involved in the early frame. In the 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.000 second group, the afternoon games, it's determined perhaps a f 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.880 C South winner, uh, determined the NFC number one seed 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.000 and determine the NFC ins or out of the playoffs. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.960 And then the late game, the night game is the 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.360 NFC East title game, if you will, de facto title game. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.200 Washington involved in that. I know that because that was 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.240 splattered all over the places. Still don't know the lines. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.400 But that's the that's the schedule. How did you do 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:35.880 this past week? Saturday was a grind, we wind up 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.360 slightly in the black. But Sunday was real good. Sunday 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.880 was a real good day. Sunday. What was your best? 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:50.000 Was your best outcome on Sunday? Oh? The best outcome yesterday? Uh? 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.040 Probably the Jets. Yeah, that was probably our best outcome 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.320 that would make sense. Jets winning their second in rowbating 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:59.440 Cleveland out right, um thirty five left in circus survivor 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:04.320 at a third teen hundred ninety um thirty five out 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.840 of thirteen ninety headed in the final week too, at 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.840 least what we can ascertain two people with two entries left, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:17.719 so thirty three different people thirty five entries um. Remember 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.239 twenty three is the point where it becomes a six 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:25.680 figure theoretical value, twenty three point nine specifically, so almost 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.279 at the six figure mark, the Browns took out the most. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.239 The aforementioned Browns with twelve, Texans went down with five. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.719 Someone had the Cardinals. So that's how you got to 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.880 the eighteen. All right, let us begin with the first 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:44.360 game on Sunday. I got a lot to say, somebody whatever, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.800 So the first game is in the rotation, is the 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.560 night game, so we'll get to that, lax, I guess okay, Um, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:56.839 let's do early gas early games. Jaguars at the Colts, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.760 Jaguars at the Colts. All right, Promise me we'll get 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.760 to the Miami Raid Miami, either Miami or the Raiders 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.360 in this segment, because I got I got too much 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.120 to say about that Jaguars at the Colts. This, by 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.000 the way, let me just say this about Survivor. But 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.800 let me take a moment to just remind people that 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:17.000 this is Gil Alexander, Chrisandrews. This is guessing lines week seventeen, 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.359 the final week of the regular season, right here on 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.240 the Numbers game at Vista, the sports betting network. The exercises. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.240 I don't know the lines. I try to guess them. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.000 Chrissie tells me in a typical week what he'll post 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.320 at the end of the show. We'll see how this 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.840 goes today, because Week seventeen is scorely uh for those 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.800 of us who have got beat with the Rams in 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:39.760 week fifteen. I speaking for myself, I had the Ravens 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.200 planned all the time for week sixteen, so of course 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.839 it was a cruise job. Indianapolis would have been my 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.800 Week seventeen pick. And as it turns out, I'm gonna 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.160 guess that this is gonna be a massive spread. I'm 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.640 gonna guess it's fourteen the Jacksonville Jaguars yesterday, and this 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.159 is what I talked about. It's what I talked about 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.800 with Tanka Palooza three years ago in the NBA. So 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.400 when I talk about quote unquote tanking, now, the layers 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.680 on the field don't take, but front offices and the 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.240 coaches can do things to minimize your chances at winning. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.600 The Jaguars yesterday came out with no Gardner Minshew. They 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.919 went with Mike Glennon and no James Robinson. They announced 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.239 this before the game. Uh, they announced this before they 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.800 went out and laid an egg against the Chicago Bears. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.719 There's a couple. There was a few things happening in 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.680 that Bears Jacksonville game, by the way, the first of 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.719 which was when Arizona lost on Saturday. I couldn't believe 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.920 more people didn't pound Chicago early. They waited till Sunday 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.440 to go crazy. I immediately it was like everything on 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.320 Saturday after Arizona loss. That's a different story. But Jacksonville 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.560 no Minshew, no Robinson, the Jets win, and the Jacksonville 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.560 loss means Jacksonville clinches the number one pick in one 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.040 draft and a shot at Trevor Lawrence. Mike Glennon was 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.839 twenty thirty seven for two eleven in the loss, two touchdowns, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.880 two picks. He was sack once. They only had fourteen 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.680 first downs. They had ten penalties for hunter fifteen yards. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.799 UH longest losing streak of franchise history ties the franchise 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.200 record for losses in the season at fourteen that was 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.040 set back in twenty twelve. And then there's the Colts. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.240 The Colts had a big lead over the Steelers, your Steelers. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:05.799 They were up twenty one to three in the second 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.200 half UH minus two in turnovers, though they had nine 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.360 penalties for eighty three yards. They got outscored twenty one 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.960 to three. As I said, in the second half after 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.960 being up in that game, a grip uh and that 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.840 was the big turn around. They were up twenty four 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.200 to seven, got outscored three rivers twenty two of thirty 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.600 five or two seventy one touchdown one. Picky sacked five 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.280 times Jonathan Taylor eighteen for seventy four and two touchdowns. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.400 But Indianapolis now needs help because of that loss. They 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.480 need to win and Tennessee to lose to win the 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.920 a f C South. Their second way in is a 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.560 win by Indianapolis in this game against Jacksonville shouldn't be difficult, 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.640 and a loss by Miami, Baltimore or Cleveland any one 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.600 of those three, coupled with a Colts win here over 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.320 Jacksonville and Indianapolis will be in. So Indianapolis has two 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.600 roots Division or wild card, but they do need help. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.800 I'll say Colts by fourteen to touchdowns here because the 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:05.679 Jaguars have done so uh it's thirteen and a half 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.600 or fourteen. I definitely like the higher number. My I 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.720 made it seventeen myself, you know. And I know Coals 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:17.240 could be wildly inconsistent, which is, you know, a commentary 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.280 and think more Philip Rivers and the rest of the lineup, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.600 but yeah, they all, they all are complicit in this, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.280 but I like this high. I mean the DAGs just 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.840 they didn't show up the second half. They played a 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.280 good first half against the Bears, but just didn't show 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.960 up the second half. I mean, how much enthusiam unique 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.680 is going to be in that locker room this week 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.120 as they view film and do all that other sort 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.079 of things. So I definitely like the highest number possible here. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.120 So fourteens what I'll open just because I see a 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.880 lot of thirteen and a half out there. But I'm 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.559 gonna stay the only counter arguments that and I think 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.480 you're right. I doubt they'll care at all, especially when 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.880 looking at film for this last game. The only counter 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.280 argument would be Jacksonville actually now can win at will, right, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.240 nothing goes wrong if they win this game, they still 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.240 have the number one picks. I'm gonna I'm gonna just 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.880 say fourteen. And you're saying you'll put it at seventeen 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.120 or whatever is the highest you said. I'm gonna use 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.520 fourteen because, like I said, it's the plenty of third 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.920 team and a half now, so I'm gonna be on 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:15.600 the high end of it. Okay. Next, you want to 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.319 do your rant now, Gil, because those two teams are 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.840 way down the list. What's the perfect segment, Well, we'll 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.400 do that. I just want to do it in the 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.240 top segment or of either hour, So we'll wait till 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:31.920 the second hour for that. Okay, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, okay. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.600 Next in the next in the rotation is A one 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.200 is a late game? Do you want to skip that 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.000 and go onto the early games first? Yeah? I think 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.440 we should do all the early games first. Let's do chronologically, okay. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.520 Next up, Cowboys at the Giants. Cowboys are the Giants. Okay, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:50.400 So winner of this game will win the NFC East. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:55.000 If then Washington loses later. Okay, so winner of this 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.520 game wins the NFC East. If Washington loses later, it's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.360 the six and nine Cowboys the five and ten Giants. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.000 Cowboys win. Yesterday they beat the Eagles. They were way down. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.720 They were down fourteen to three against the Eagles outscored 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.800 him thirty four to three. The rest of the way 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.520 beat him thirty seven to seventeen. Is three point dogs. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.240 Dalton was twenty two of thirty for three seventy seven, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.040 three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked twice. Zeke nineteen 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.880 for one oh five, Cooper four catches for one, Gallop 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.600 six for one one and two touchdowns scored on five 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.719 consecutive possessions in the second and third quarter. And then 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.120 the Giants just got rolled by the Ravens. It was 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.079 never closed. Thirteen was actually closer than it was. Ravens 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.360 fumbled at the two yard line late on the way 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.760 into make it a three touchdown lead. Instead, they only 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.600 win by two touchdowns. Daniel Jones fifty two, one touchdown. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:47.360 Note Pixy was sacked six times. Giants offense one of 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.160 ten on third, one of three on four. It's their 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.240 fifth straight game with fewer than twenty points. They've scored 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.880 just two touchdowns over their past three weeks. And that's 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.200 that with the Giants. So I'll say Dallas not quite 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:00.959 by a field goal, say Dallas minus two and a 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.760 half in what could be a game for the NFC East. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.960 Depending on what Washington does later, what is two and 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.120 a half? I might make the number higher. So I'm 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.200 gonna open three, and I know somebody's gonna come and 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.400 take it's like that, you know, it's like the last 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.080 three they're ever going to see in the world. You 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.240 know what, I post one of these, but I make 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.640 this a lot higher. And my commentary on the Giants 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.840 is that was looking to some things to see. I 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.840 think it's overlooked just how bad this franchise has been 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.520 for about six or seven years now. I mean they 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.920 are terrible. They have they're looking at that. They the 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.520 five and ten is done what they are and so 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.880 double diget losses, double digit losses again this year. Uh 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.440 you know what, they lose three and you mentioned nominy points. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.439 They haven't scored in the last six games or whatever, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.880 six against US, thirteen against the Ravens before that. Their wins. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.679 They had seventeen against been they hit the shards. How 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.400 they won that game, I'll never know. Uh. Beat the Bengals, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.120 beat et Eagles, beat the Washington's twice. This is a 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.240 terrible team. And I hate to say because I've always 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.160 kind of liked the Giants. I'm the NFC has been 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.360 one of my favorite NFC teams. That this is a 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.520 terribly run franchise for a while now. And it's kind of, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.200 you know, split under the radar because they do have 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.719 those two Super Bowls with Eli Manning, and they have 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.480 pretty rich history parcels and a couple of Super Bowls, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.440 you know, so, but um, this is this is a 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.439 bad team and a bad franchise right now. Left of 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.000 the Cowboys are any great shapes, but they're playing pretty good. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.640 Looks like Dalton got his feet on Dermans, knows how 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.040 to use everybody. You know. They look a little rocky 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.920 certain in the first half this It came out with 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.360 the managers. I like this number way higher. So I'm 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.360 gonna open three, somebody's gonna grab it off me and 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.600 I'm sure, but I like this number of way higher. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.240 Did you just tell me? I hit the first two 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.640 on the button. By the way, first two lines, Yeah, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.280 has never. I don't think that's happened all year. I'm 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:10.520 sure I'll miss one up badly coming field field Yates. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.360 Oh sorry, go ahead, Chris, what do you say? I'm 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.719 gonna say, what do you see some of these numbers? 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.160 I remember that from week seventeen. By the way, field 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.880 Yates had this great tweet about the Giants. They could 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.960 win the division. Remember if they win in Washington loses, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.439 the Giants based on tiebreaker because we swept Washington will 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.360 win the division. Or they could pick third in the draft. 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:38.040 How amazing is that? That's how wacky the NFC East is. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.160 That's from Field Yates from espn uh win the division 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.680 and get a home playoff game, or or pick third 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.120 in the draft in another scenario. That's the gap. The 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.840 other thing about this is six and ten could win 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.320 the NFC East and eleven and five could miss the 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.320 playoffs in the a f C. That's just another all right, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.760 what's next? Yeah? And by the way, I still don't 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.320 want to change the playoff format. I think it's great drama, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.360 it's great, it's great. Yeah, Yeah, I really do. Yeah, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.480 And I mean, listen, you're looking, there are two and 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.680 a half point dogs. How many of those win quite 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.120 a few. We haven't gotten to the Washington's yet. That's 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.680 that's a low point spread there too, an easily easily 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.960 app them winning the division. Okay, next up, we have 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.120 the Steelers at the brown Steelers at the Browns. Here's 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.960 where it starts to get squirrely, because because here's where 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.880 you can't I mean, I don't know what to make this. Uh. Pittsburgh, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.080 as I mentioned yesterday, out gained by the Colts in 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.680 the first half two six to eight in total yards. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.280 In the first half, Colts were up to seven as 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.800 I As I mentioned heading into the final stages of 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.560 the third quarter, biggest second half comeback of Mike Tomlin's 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.640 tenure in Pittsburgh ensued. They outscored the It's twenty one 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.960 and nothing over the final eighteen minutes and sixteen seconds, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.600 and Pittsburgh clinches the a f C North by the way, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.840 they would have clinched it with the Brown's loss anyway. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.600 Seventh a f C North title under Mike Tomlin. Big 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.040 Ben came to life thirty four or forty nine for 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.520 three forty two, three touchdowns, no picks, sacked once. All 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.040 of his touchdown passes in the second half Juju a touchdown, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.400 Deonte eight for seventy five and a touchdown. They were 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.440 plus two and turnovers. That always helps. Now here's where 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.560 it gets squirrely. They can clinch the number two seed 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.080 with a win and one Buffalo loss. Remember the Bills 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.920 play tonight against New England and then they got a 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.680 game next week. So Pittsburgh could clinch the number two 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.320 seed with a win in a Buffalo loss. But the 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.440 number two seed, remember, doesn't have a buy anymore. First 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:49.400 year that's happened, So do they really care? I don't know. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.560 Mike Tomlin already on record is saying he's not sure 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.520 how many starters he might sit in this finale against 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.000 the Browns. The Browns, on the other hand, have everything 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.760 to play for. They can clinch their first playoff berth 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.120 since two thousand two with the win next week or 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:08.360 in Indianapolis loss, or a Tennessee loss, Miami win, in 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.320 Baltimore win. You got all that, So let me say 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.920 that again. Brown's clinch of playoff berth with a win 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.800 that's the easiest way, or in Indianapolis loss, that's the 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:23.240 second easiest way, then the more convoluted way. A Tennessee loss, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.360 a Miami win in a Baltimore win, don't ask Baker 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.600 Mayfield yesterday, and defeat fifty three for two eighty five 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.080 no touchdowns, no picksy was stacked four times. The Browns 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.720 had a season low forty five rushing yards, as I mentioned, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.400 Oh no, I didn mention this. They were minus two 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.160 in turnovers against the Jets. But remember this was the 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.200 COVID game. They entered that game against the Jets without 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.240 seven players because of COVID nineteen issues. Along with the 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.200 with the Cardinals losing on Saturday, which should have triggered 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.640 Bears bets for everybody based on playoff implications, and the 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.280 fact that the Jaguars already anounced they weren't playing Minshew 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.520 or Robinson. This was the other sort of must bet 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.920 the cove bid issues with the Browns. No Jarvis Landry, no. Three. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.920 Other wide receivers were Shard Higgins, Donovan People's Jones or 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:13.480 uh uh, Cardarell Hodge, linebacker Jacob Phillips as well Jedrick Wills, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.000 the rookie left tackle was out for other for other reasons, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.320 they had to call up several players from the practice 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.240 squad and coach Kevin Stefanski ran a walk through in 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.239 a parking lot near the team's hotel to get some 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.480 of the new players up to speed on the game plan. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.639 After the game, Baker Mayfield said, quote, I failed this team. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.399 I put three balls on the ground, two of them 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.360 they recovered, and the other on fourth down, just hold 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.160 onto the damn ball unquote, And the big one he's 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.800 talking about. On fourth and one, with the shorthanded Browns 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.200 driving for the potential tying score, he tried to push 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.120 forward for the first down and lost The ball went 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.639 Torrell bash him smacked into him. Kareem Hunt recovered, but 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.520 by rule, Mayfield was the only one who could advance 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.760 the ball and he was short of the first down, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.520 so the call was upheld by video review and the 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.320 Jets got the ball with one eight team left. Second 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.639 straight win for them after an O and thirteen starts. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:00.959 So that's the situation. The brown of everything to play for, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.000 still could get in if they lose, but they've got 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.080 everything to play for. Pittsburgh's got only seating to play for. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.040 Does seating matter? I would argue it doesn't. Mike Tomlin 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.240 as you say, coaches lie, indicating that it might not 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.520 matter to them. I don't know. You put all that 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.520 in the wash Cleveland's what a seven and a half 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.520 point favorite or something like that. I don't know. I'm 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.480 there's only a couple of numbers out there, and it's 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.000 more like six and a half. Um, but I'm not 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.240 I'm certainly not posting this number today. I mean, the 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.840 Bills game means, uh, you know you say seating doesn't matter. Go, 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:41.320 I don't know if it matters or not. Might not? Yeah, yeah, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.320 I don't know. So I mean, I'm not going to 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.920 post this today. But six and a half is kind 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.960 of the number that's out there right now. Um. You know, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.560 I listen, I get, I have all the Pittsburgh papers 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.200 that I try to follow as much as I can. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.879 I'll see if I can get read on it. But 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.040 like I opened the show is saying, I don't know 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.320 if I trust these coaches with what they say. They're 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.480 not under no obligation to tell you the truth, um, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.520 except on an injury. But you know, we'll see. I 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.080 don't know so right now, knocking open, But six and 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.280 a half is the number, but very very few numbers 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:17.879 out there. But that's what I see. Yeah, this is 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.040 the first one where it's impossible to set a line 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.159 for And I will I will say this, even if 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.520 seating did matter to you. Again, we're not talking about 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.840 the number one seed because Kansas City's got that. We're 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.000 not talking about two met or to miss the playoffs. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.200 We're talking about you're in. You've either clinched the playoff 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.760 birth you've clinched a division win, and you're in the playoffs. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.520 And even if you cared about seating, you couldn't plan 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.080 it if you tried with all of these teams bunched 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.680 up like they are, so you couldn't. You couldn't even 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.040 figure out who you'd end up playing if you had 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.560 designs on playing a certain team. Unlike the NFC, by 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.720 the way, where you do have the NFC East winner 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.639 sitting out there is the four seed. There would be 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.199 purpose to try and get the number five seed, but 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.399 the a f C forget about it, you know, so 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.280 that that will be interesting to see in the NFC 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.040 how teams play that. Who can jockey for the number 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.439 five position? Can you? But at least there's a goal 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.520 you could argue there's a goal in the NFC with 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.400 seating you cannot argue because all of these teams are 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.040 really good in the a f C. And now that 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:19.960 Pittsburgh showed up, I would I would throw them into 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.679 the hole. Mix um. So that's the story there. So 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.000 we'll probably run into several several more of these games 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.119 where there's no idea. How do you know does a 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.720 team care? Does it not care? What is the coach saying? 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.560 Is he lying? Is he telling the truth? We're all 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.439 amateur psychologists on heading into week seventeen. But that's what 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.000 makes it interesting. We'll come back. We'll continue with guessing 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:49.200 lines week seventeen. Nonetheless, the Titans at the Texans. Titans 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.280 at the Texans. Titans got beaten the snow last night 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.359 by Green Bay. We'll get the Green Bay. Have you 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.000 ever seen more effortless football than the Packers are playing 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:02.200 right now? It's amazing. Titans get eat U fort fourteen. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.720 They got a close at one point, uh, nineteen to fourteen, 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.520 I believe, But then it was just a steam roll 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:12.440 down the stretch of that game. Uh, Tennessee, let's see here, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.080 Tennessee at who did you say at Houston? Oh? Okay, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.760 Ryan Tannehill yesterday, by the way, in defeat eleven of 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.280 twenty four for one one through the air, one touchdown, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.760 two picks. He was sacked twice, three carriers from fifty 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.920 five yards and a touchdown for him though Derrick Henry 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.240