Speaker 1: Check it down, man, now down. Then it is a
Speaker 1: numbers game right here on a Monday morning Skill Alexander
Speaker 1: Week seventeen Guessing Lines. It's our final guessing lines of
Speaker 1: the year, tribute to the old Startust radio show of
Speaker 1: the same ILK back with Roxy Rox Borrow back in
Speaker 1: the day, where typically I'll try to guess the lines
Speaker 1: and then Christie'll tell me what he's putting up at
Speaker 1: the end of the show. But this being Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: this is squirrely, So it's basically an excuse just to
Speaker 1: talk to Christy about football for two hours because I
Speaker 1: don't know how many lines are actually are actually up.
Speaker 1: Let's bring him in. Uh he is my He runs
Speaker 1: the South Point Hotel Casino, ladies and gentlemen. He has
Speaker 1: a brand new, funky intro for guessing lines, and it
Speaker 1: goes a little something like this, yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: maybe not so brand new. We played it a couple
Speaker 1: of times before. It's Chris Andrews. Everybody runs the south
Speaker 1: Point hell to Casino. Good morning to you, Christie's how
Speaker 1: you doing? I warn you in the vance? Who is that?
Speaker 1: What music is that? Gil? Somebody I had never heard of?
Speaker 1: No No, No, I had nothing to do with that music.
Speaker 1: What was that, Jason? It was just generic. We can't
Speaker 1: hear you, Jason, generic marching Eric fired up marching band,
Speaker 1: beginning of the game music. All right, generic marching band,
Speaker 1: beginning of the game music. There you go, Chrissie us
Speaker 1: there to Okay, So I warn you in advance this
Speaker 1: by texts. Also, I could have verbal diarrhea on some
Speaker 1: of these games. And your response was good because there
Speaker 1: are there might not be lines for half of these. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I mean I wrote him down last night,
Speaker 1: and you know I made my numbers. Yeah, let's this way.
Speaker 1: I put in my power ratings on every game. You know,
Speaker 1: it did the addition and subtraction necessary. But you know,
Speaker 1: still we don't know who's a lot of games, we
Speaker 1: don't know who's really playing. Who isn't h you know, coaches,
Speaker 1: just a warning coaches lie on a week like this.
Speaker 1: And the other note that I would make is sometimes
Speaker 1: needs the game is the most overrated thing in sports
Speaker 1: gambling period. Yes, if you if you, as the Great
Speaker 1: Dr Bob One said, if you're in a must win situation,
Speaker 1: you must not be that good was his comment. Is
Speaker 1: what you're saying that But The way it's set up
Speaker 1: this weekend is that the early time slot on Sunday again,
Speaker 1: no Thursday, no Saturday, know nothing before Sunday. The early
Speaker 1: time slot on Sunday are basically the teams that are
Speaker 1: a f C UH specific in terms of whether they
Speaker 1: will be in or out of the playoffs, so who
Speaker 1: will get those final spots in the a f C layoffs.
Speaker 1: Those teams are involved in the early frame. In the
Speaker 1: second group, the afternoon games, it's determined perhaps a f
Speaker 1: C South winner, uh, determined the NFC number one seed
Speaker 1: and determine the NFC ins or out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And then the late game, the night game is the
Speaker 1: NFC East title game, if you will, de facto title game.
Speaker 1: Washington involved in that. I know that because that was
Speaker 1: splattered all over the places. Still don't know the lines.
Speaker 1: But that's the that's the schedule. How did you do
Speaker 1: this past week? Saturday was a grind, we wind up
Speaker 1: slightly in the black. But Sunday was real good. Sunday
Speaker 1: was a real good day. Sunday. What was your best?
Speaker 1: Was your best outcome on Sunday? Oh? The best outcome yesterday? Uh?
Speaker 1: Probably the Jets. Yeah, that was probably our best outcome
Speaker 1: that would make sense. Jets winning their second in rowbating
Speaker 1: Cleveland out right, um thirty five left in circus survivor
Speaker 1: at a third teen hundred ninety um thirty five out
Speaker 1: of thirteen ninety headed in the final week too, at
Speaker 1: least what we can ascertain two people with two entries left,
Speaker 1: so thirty three different people thirty five entries um. Remember
Speaker 1: twenty three is the point where it becomes a six
Speaker 1: figure theoretical value, twenty three point nine specifically, so almost
Speaker 1: at the six figure mark, the Browns took out the most.
Speaker 1: The aforementioned Browns with twelve, Texans went down with five.
Speaker 1: Someone had the Cardinals. So that's how you got to
Speaker 1: the eighteen. All right, let us begin with the first
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. I got a lot to say, somebody whatever,
Speaker 1: So the first game is in the rotation, is the
Speaker 1: night game, so we'll get to that, lax, I guess okay, Um,
Speaker 1: let's do early gas early games. Jaguars at the Colts,
Speaker 1: Jaguars at the Colts. All right, Promise me we'll get
Speaker 1: to the Miami Raid Miami, either Miami or the Raiders
Speaker 1: in this segment, because I got I got too much
Speaker 1: to say about that Jaguars at the Colts. This, by
Speaker 1: the way, let me just say this about Survivor. But
Speaker 1: let me take a moment to just remind people that
Speaker 1: this is Gil Alexander, Chrisandrews. This is guessing lines week seventeen,
Speaker 1: the final week of the regular season, right here on
Speaker 1: the Numbers game at Vista, the sports betting network. The exercises.
Speaker 1: I don't know the lines. I try to guess them.
Speaker 1: Chrissie tells me in a typical week what he'll post
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. We'll see how this
Speaker 1: goes today, because Week seventeen is scorely uh for those
Speaker 1: of us who have got beat with the Rams in
Speaker 1: week fifteen. I speaking for myself, I had the Ravens
Speaker 1: planned all the time for week sixteen, so of course
Speaker 1: it was a cruise job. Indianapolis would have been my
Speaker 1: Week seventeen pick. And as it turns out, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess that this is gonna be a massive spread. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess it's fourteen the Jacksonville Jaguars yesterday, and this
Speaker 1: is what I talked about. It's what I talked about
Speaker 1: with Tanka Palooza three years ago in the NBA. So
Speaker 1: when I talk about quote unquote tanking, now, the layers
Speaker 1: on the field don't take, but front offices and the
Speaker 1: coaches can do things to minimize your chances at winning.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars yesterday came out with no Gardner Minshew. They
Speaker 1: went with Mike Glennon and no James Robinson. They announced
Speaker 1: this before the game. Uh, they announced this before they
Speaker 1: went out and laid an egg against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: There's a couple. There was a few things happening in
Speaker 1: that Bears Jacksonville game, by the way, the first of
Speaker 1: which was when Arizona lost on Saturday. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: more people didn't pound Chicago early. They waited till Sunday
Speaker 1: to go crazy. I immediately it was like everything on
Speaker 1: Saturday after Arizona loss. That's a different story. But Jacksonville
Speaker 1: no Minshew, no Robinson, the Jets win, and the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: loss means Jacksonville clinches the number one pick in one
Speaker 1: draft and a shot at Trevor Lawrence. Mike Glennon was
Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven for two eleven in the loss, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two picks. He was sack once. They only had fourteen
Speaker 1: first downs. They had ten penalties for hunter fifteen yards.
Speaker 1: UH longest losing streak of franchise history ties the franchise
Speaker 1: record for losses in the season at fourteen that was
Speaker 1: set back in twenty twelve. And then there's the Colts.
Speaker 1: The Colts had a big lead over the Steelers, your Steelers.
Speaker 1: They were up twenty one to three in the second
Speaker 1: half UH minus two in turnovers, though they had nine
Speaker 1: penalties for eighty three yards. They got outscored twenty one
Speaker 1: to three. As I said, in the second half after
Speaker 1: being up in that game, a grip uh and that
Speaker 1: was the big turn around. They were up twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven, got outscored three rivers twenty two of thirty
Speaker 1: five or two seventy one touchdown one. Picky sacked five
Speaker 1: times Jonathan Taylor eighteen for seventy four and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: But Indianapolis now needs help because of that loss. They
Speaker 1: need to win and Tennessee to lose to win the
Speaker 1: a f C South. Their second way in is a
Speaker 1: win by Indianapolis in this game against Jacksonville shouldn't be difficult,
Speaker 1: and a loss by Miami, Baltimore or Cleveland any one
Speaker 1: of those three, coupled with a Colts win here over
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Indianapolis will be in. So Indianapolis has two
Speaker 1: roots Division or wild card, but they do need help.
Speaker 1: I'll say Colts by fourteen to touchdowns here because the
Speaker 1: Jaguars have done so uh it's thirteen and a half
Speaker 1: or fourteen. I definitely like the higher number. My I
Speaker 1: made it seventeen myself, you know. And I know Coals
Speaker 1: could be wildly inconsistent, which is, you know, a commentary
Speaker 1: and think more Philip Rivers and the rest of the lineup,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they all, they all are complicit in this,
Speaker 1: but I like this high. I mean the DAGs just
Speaker 1: they didn't show up the second half. They played a
Speaker 1: good first half against the Bears, but just didn't show
Speaker 1: up the second half. I mean, how much enthusiam unique
Speaker 1: is going to be in that locker room this week
Speaker 1: as they view film and do all that other sort
Speaker 1: of things. So I definitely like the highest number possible here.
Speaker 1: So fourteens what I'll open just because I see a
Speaker 1: lot of thirteen and a half out there. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stay the only counter arguments that and I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I doubt they'll care at all, especially when
Speaker 1: looking at film for this last game. The only counter
Speaker 1: argument would be Jacksonville actually now can win at will, right,
Speaker 1: nothing goes wrong if they win this game, they still
Speaker 1: have the number one picks. I'm gonna I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: say fourteen. And you're saying you'll put it at seventeen
Speaker 1: or whatever is the highest you said. I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: fourteen because, like I said, it's the plenty of third
Speaker 1: team and a half now, so I'm gonna be on
Speaker 1: the high end of it. Okay. Next, you want to
Speaker 1: do your rant now, Gil, because those two teams are
Speaker 1: way down the list. What's the perfect segment, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: do that. I just want to do it in the
Speaker 1: top segment or of either hour, So we'll wait till
Speaker 1: the second hour for that. Okay, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Next in the next in the rotation is A one
Speaker 1: is a late game? Do you want to skip that
Speaker 1: and go onto the early games first? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: we should do all the early games first. Let's do chronologically, okay.
Speaker 1: Next up, Cowboys at the Giants. Cowboys are the Giants. Okay,
Speaker 1: So winner of this game will win the NFC East.
Speaker 1: If then Washington loses later. Okay, so winner of this
Speaker 1: game wins the NFC East. If Washington loses later, it's
Speaker 1: the six and nine Cowboys the five and ten Giants.
Speaker 1: Cowboys win. Yesterday they beat the Eagles. They were way down.
Speaker 1: They were down fourteen to three against the Eagles outscored
Speaker 1: him thirty four to three. The rest of the way
Speaker 1: beat him thirty seven to seventeen. Is three point dogs.
Speaker 1: Dalton was twenty two of thirty for three seventy seven,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked twice. Zeke nineteen
Speaker 1: for one oh five, Cooper four catches for one, Gallop
Speaker 1: six for one one and two touchdowns scored on five
Speaker 1: consecutive possessions in the second and third quarter. And then
Speaker 1: the Giants just got rolled by the Ravens. It was
Speaker 1: never closed. Thirteen was actually closer than it was. Ravens
Speaker 1: fumbled at the two yard line late on the way
Speaker 1: into make it a three touchdown lead. Instead, they only
Speaker 1: win by two touchdowns. Daniel Jones fifty two, one touchdown.
Speaker 1: Note Pixy was sacked six times. Giants offense one of
Speaker 1: ten on third, one of three on four. It's their
Speaker 1: fifth straight game with fewer than twenty points. They've scored
Speaker 1: just two touchdowns over their past three weeks. And that's
Speaker 1: that with the Giants. So I'll say Dallas not quite
Speaker 1: by a field goal, say Dallas minus two and a
Speaker 1: half in what could be a game for the NFC East.
Speaker 1: Depending on what Washington does later, what is two and
Speaker 1: a half? I might make the number higher. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open three, and I know somebody's gonna come and
Speaker 1: take it's like that, you know, it's like the last
Speaker 1: three they're ever going to see in the world. You
Speaker 1: know what, I post one of these, but I make
Speaker 1: this a lot higher. And my commentary on the Giants
Speaker 1: is that was looking to some things to see. I
Speaker 1: think it's overlooked just how bad this franchise has been
Speaker 1: for about six or seven years now. I mean they
Speaker 1: are terrible. They have they're looking at that. They the
Speaker 1: five and ten is done what they are and so
Speaker 1: double diget losses, double digit losses again this year. Uh
Speaker 1: you know what, they lose three and you mentioned nominy points.
Speaker 1: They haven't scored in the last six games or whatever,
Speaker 1: six against US, thirteen against the Ravens before that. Their wins.
Speaker 1: They had seventeen against been they hit the shards. How
Speaker 1: they won that game, I'll never know. Uh. Beat the Bengals,
Speaker 1: beat et Eagles, beat the Washington's twice. This is a
Speaker 1: terrible team. And I hate to say because I've always
Speaker 1: kind of liked the Giants. I'm the NFC has been
Speaker 1: one of my favorite NFC teams. That this is a
Speaker 1: terribly run franchise for a while now. And it's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, split under the radar because they do have
Speaker 1: those two Super Bowls with Eli Manning, and they have
Speaker 1: pretty rich history parcels and a couple of Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: you know, so, but um, this is this is a
Speaker 1: bad team and a bad franchise right now. Left of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are any great shapes, but they're playing pretty good.
Speaker 1: Looks like Dalton got his feet on Dermans, knows how
Speaker 1: to use everybody. You know. They look a little rocky
Speaker 1: certain in the first half this It came out with
Speaker 1: the managers. I like this number way higher. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open three, somebody's gonna grab it off me and
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I like this number of way higher.
Speaker 1: Did you just tell me? I hit the first two
Speaker 1: on the button. By the way, first two lines, Yeah,
Speaker 1: has never. I don't think that's happened all year. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'll miss one up badly coming field field Yates.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, go ahead, Chris, what do you say? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, what do you see some of these numbers?
Speaker 1: I remember that from week seventeen. By the way, field
Speaker 1: Yates had this great tweet about the Giants. They could
Speaker 1: win the division. Remember if they win in Washington loses,
Speaker 1: the Giants based on tiebreaker because we swept Washington will
Speaker 1: win the division. Or they could pick third in the draft.
Speaker 1: How amazing is that? That's how wacky the NFC East is.
Speaker 1: That's from Field Yates from espn uh win the division
Speaker 1: and get a home playoff game, or or pick third
Speaker 1: in the draft in another scenario. That's the gap. The
Speaker 1: other thing about this is six and ten could win
Speaker 1: the NFC East and eleven and five could miss the
Speaker 1: playoffs in the a f C. That's just another all right,
Speaker 1: what's next? Yeah? And by the way, I still don't
Speaker 1: want to change the playoff format. I think it's great drama,
Speaker 1: it's great, it's great. Yeah, Yeah, I really do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean, listen, you're looking, there are two and
Speaker 1: a half point dogs. How many of those win quite
Speaker 1: a few. We haven't gotten to the Washington's yet. That's
Speaker 1: that's a low point spread there too, an easily easily
Speaker 1: app them winning the division. Okay, next up, we have
Speaker 1: the Steelers at the brown Steelers at the Browns. Here's
Speaker 1: where it starts to get squirrely, because because here's where
Speaker 1: you can't I mean, I don't know what to make this. Uh. Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned yesterday, out gained by the Colts in
Speaker 1: the first half two six to eight in total yards.
Speaker 1: In the first half, Colts were up to seven as
Speaker 1: I As I mentioned heading into the final stages of
Speaker 1: the third quarter, biggest second half comeback of Mike Tomlin's
Speaker 1: tenure in Pittsburgh ensued. They outscored the It's twenty one
Speaker 1: and nothing over the final eighteen minutes and sixteen seconds,
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh clinches the a f C North by the way,
Speaker 1: they would have clinched it with the Brown's loss anyway.
Speaker 1: Seventh a f C North title under Mike Tomlin. Big
Speaker 1: Ben came to life thirty four or forty nine for
Speaker 1: three forty two, three touchdowns, no picks, sacked once. All
Speaker 1: of his touchdown passes in the second half Juju a touchdown,
Speaker 1: Deonte eight for seventy five and a touchdown. They were
Speaker 1: plus two and turnovers. That always helps. Now here's where
Speaker 1: it gets squirrely. They can clinch the number two seed
Speaker 1: with a win and one Buffalo loss. Remember the Bills
Speaker 1: play tonight against New England and then they got a
Speaker 1: game next week. So Pittsburgh could clinch the number two
Speaker 1: seed with a win in a Buffalo loss. But the
Speaker 1: number two seed, remember, doesn't have a buy anymore. First
Speaker 1: year that's happened, So do they really care? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin already on record is saying he's not sure
Speaker 1: how many starters he might sit in this finale against
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Browns, on the other hand, have everything
Speaker 1: to play for. They can clinch their first playoff berth
Speaker 1: since two thousand two with the win next week or
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis loss, or a Tennessee loss, Miami win, in
Speaker 1: Baltimore win. You got all that, So let me say
Speaker 1: that again. Brown's clinch of playoff berth with a win
Speaker 1: that's the easiest way, or in Indianapolis loss, that's the
Speaker 1: second easiest way, then the more convoluted way. A Tennessee loss,
Speaker 1: a Miami win in a Baltimore win, don't ask Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield yesterday, and defeat fifty three for two eighty five
Speaker 1: no touchdowns, no picksy was stacked four times. The Browns
Speaker 1: had a season low forty five rushing yards, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn mention this. They were minus two
Speaker 1: in turnovers against the Jets. But remember this was the
Speaker 1: COVID game. They entered that game against the Jets without
Speaker 1: seven players because of COVID nineteen issues. Along with the
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals losing on Saturday, which should have triggered
Speaker 1: Bears bets for everybody based on playoff implications, and the
Speaker 1: fact that the Jaguars already anounced they weren't playing Minshew
Speaker 1: or Robinson. This was the other sort of must bet
Speaker 1: the cove bid issues with the Browns. No Jarvis Landry, no. Three.
Speaker 1: Other wide receivers were Shard Higgins, Donovan People's Jones or
Speaker 1: uh uh, Cardarell Hodge, linebacker Jacob Phillips as well Jedrick Wills,
Speaker 1: the rookie left tackle was out for other for other reasons,
Speaker 1: they had to call up several players from the practice
Speaker 1: squad and coach Kevin Stefanski ran a walk through in
Speaker 1: a parking lot near the team's hotel to get some
Speaker 1: of the new players up to speed on the game plan.
Speaker 1: After the game, Baker Mayfield said, quote, I failed this team.
Speaker 1: I put three balls on the ground, two of them
Speaker 1: they recovered, and the other on fourth down, just hold
Speaker 1: onto the damn ball unquote, And the big one he's
Speaker 1: talking about. On fourth and one, with the shorthanded Browns
Speaker 1: driving for the potential tying score, he tried to push
Speaker 1: forward for the first down and lost The ball went
Speaker 1: Torrell bash him smacked into him. Kareem Hunt recovered, but
Speaker 1: by rule, Mayfield was the only one who could advance
Speaker 1: the ball and he was short of the first down,
Speaker 1: so the call was upheld by video review and the
Speaker 1: Jets got the ball with one eight team left. Second
Speaker 1: straight win for them after an O and thirteen starts.
Speaker 1: So that's the situation. The brown of everything to play for,
Speaker 1: still could get in if they lose, but they've got
Speaker 1: everything to play for. Pittsburgh's got only seating to play for.
Speaker 1: Does seating matter? I would argue it doesn't. Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: as you say, coaches lie, indicating that it might not
Speaker 1: matter to them. I don't know. You put all that
Speaker 1: in the wash Cleveland's what a seven and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite or something like that. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: there's only a couple of numbers out there, and it's
Speaker 1: more like six and a half. Um, but I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not posting this number today. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Bills game means, uh, you know you say seating doesn't matter. Go,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters or not. Might not? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I mean, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: post this today. But six and a half is kind
Speaker 1: of the number that's out there right now. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I listen, I get, I have all the Pittsburgh papers
Speaker 1: that I try to follow as much as I can.
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can get read on it. But
Speaker 1: like I opened the show is saying, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I trust these coaches with what they say. They're
Speaker 1: not under no obligation to tell you the truth, um,
Speaker 1: except on an injury. But you know, we'll see. I
Speaker 1: don't know so right now, knocking open, But six and
Speaker 1: a half is the number, but very very few numbers
Speaker 1: out there. But that's what I see. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the first one where it's impossible to set a line
Speaker 1: for And I will I will say this, even if
Speaker 1: seating did matter to you. Again, we're not talking about
Speaker 1: the number one seed because Kansas City's got that. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about two met or to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We're talking about you're in. You've either clinched the playoff
Speaker 1: birth you've clinched a division win, and you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And even if you cared about seating, you couldn't plan
Speaker 1: it if you tried with all of these teams bunched
Speaker 1: up like they are, so you couldn't. You couldn't even
Speaker 1: figure out who you'd end up playing if you had
Speaker 1: designs on playing a certain team. Unlike the NFC, by
Speaker 1: the way, where you do have the NFC East winner
Speaker 1: sitting out there is the four seed. There would be
Speaker 1: purpose to try and get the number five seed, but
Speaker 1: the a f C forget about it, you know, so
Speaker 1: that that will be interesting to see in the NFC
Speaker 1: how teams play that. Who can jockey for the number
Speaker 1: five position? Can you? But at least there's a goal
Speaker 1: you could argue there's a goal in the NFC with
Speaker 1: seating you cannot argue because all of these teams are
Speaker 1: really good in the a f C. And now that
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh showed up, I would I would throw them into
Speaker 1: the hole. Mix um. So that's the story there. So
Speaker 1: we'll probably run into several several more of these games
Speaker 1: where there's no idea. How do you know does a
Speaker 1: team care? Does it not care? What is the coach saying?
Speaker 1: Is he lying? Is he telling the truth? We're all
Speaker 1: amateur psychologists on heading into week seventeen. But that's what
Speaker 1: makes it interesting. We'll come back. We'll continue with guessing
Speaker 1: lines week seventeen. Nonetheless, the Titans at the Texans. Titans
Speaker 1: at the Texans. Titans got beaten the snow last night
Speaker 1: by Green Bay. We'll get the Green Bay. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen more effortless football than the Packers are playing
Speaker 1: right now? It's amazing. Titans get eat U fort fourteen.
Speaker 1: They got a close at one point, uh, nineteen to fourteen,
Speaker 1: I believe, But then it was just a steam roll
Speaker 1: down the stretch of that game. Uh, Tennessee, let's see here,
Speaker 1: Tennessee at who did you say at Houston? Oh? Okay,
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill yesterday, by the way, in defeat eleven of
Speaker 1: twenty four for one one through the air, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: two picks. He was sacked twice, three carriers from fifty
Speaker 1: five yards and a touchdown for him though Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: for ninety eight. Whenever you can hold him under a hundred,
Speaker 1: you're doing a good job. A couple of calls in
Speaker 1: that game went against Tennessee. I'm not saying Tennessee would
Speaker 1: have won the game, but offsides called on a blocked
Speaker 1: field goal attempt was interesting, and then by the time
Speaker 1: they got to the replay on a big Aeron Jones
Speaker 1: run where he clearly stepped out of bounds, they couldn't
Speaker 1: really challenge. It ends up costing the Titans thirty six yards.
Speaker 1: That was a little odd in that game, odd being
Speaker 1: a kind word. But nonetheless, Green Bay cry them. Tennessee
Speaker 1: ten and five. There are in a big mix. But
Speaker 1: if they win, they win the a f C South.
Speaker 1: In this game at Houston. End of story, Houston loses
Speaker 1: to the Bengals. Bengals have won two in a row.
Speaker 1: DeShawn two thirty three for three forty seven, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: note picks. He was sacked once. Uh David Johnson twelve carries,
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty eight yards and a touchdown. He finally
Speaker 1: showed up Cook seven for one fifty three and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's the third time in the past four games of
Speaker 1: the Texans had a chance to win or tie a
Speaker 1: game late but lost a fumble instead last drive of
Speaker 1: the game. I'll say Tennessee has is a ten point
Speaker 1: favorite at Houston. You're a little high. It's uh seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Uh yeah, let's call it seven and
Speaker 1: a half. There's some other weird numbers out there that
Speaker 1: seven halfs the consensus is a little lower. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I mean, the Texans look terrible. I
Speaker 1: mean they've been terrible for most of the year. You know,
Speaker 1: still like the Shawn Watson, you know, like many of
Speaker 1: the skill players surrounding, and but I do like him.
Speaker 1: J J. Watt at a pretty famous rant yesterday on
Speaker 1: Twitter that's got a lot of attention. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and I you know, listen, he is still a team leader.
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna mean something in a week
Speaker 1: like this where they are. I think they're going to
Speaker 1: do their best to show up. I think the numbers
Speaker 1: are shade high myself, but I will open seven and
Speaker 1: a halfs. It's just such a squirrely week. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to get overloaded on some team
Speaker 1: in a situation like this when I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what the Texans are gonna be doing. A Titans certainly
Speaker 1: are playing for quite a bit um. I think seven
Speaker 1: halfs okay, but I kind of like a little bit lower.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised that game trends down a little
Speaker 1: bit that I will open seven as see what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, I miss one badly. Uh ten right and Houston.
Speaker 1: But this is fitting though, to end Week seventeen with
Speaker 1: a game where I missed the line on the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans game. They have been them in New England that
Speaker 1: I think if we had one theme on guessing lines
Speaker 1: this year, Houston and New England, I perpetually got those
Speaker 1: lines wrong. The market has just a different opinion of
Speaker 1: those two teams. And I'm not saying I'm right and
Speaker 1: they're wrong. It worked out sometimes, it didn't work out others.
Speaker 1: But you're saying, he said, so what are you posting
Speaker 1: on this again? In the end, seven and a half
Speaker 1: said seven and a half, all right, and again, if
Speaker 1: Tennessee wins UH, they win the a f C South.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what Indianapolis does. If they lose and Indianapolis loses,
Speaker 1: they still win the a f C South. If they
Speaker 1: lose in Indianapolis wins, then they're in the wild card
Speaker 1: mix and it becomes a whole bunch more convoluted. Again,
Speaker 1: these are all early games on Sunday Week seven. Team,
Speaker 1: we're running up against a break. The Jets at the Pots,
Speaker 1: Jets at the Patriots, by the way, didn't mean to
Speaker 1: like seg from that callous lee. What we we gotta
Speaker 1: move on here, Jets at Patriots. Let's see Jets two
Speaker 1: and third. As we mentioned, big win over the Browns. Big, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about big. Jets fans are just devastated
Speaker 1: because in a two week span, the Jets have completely
Speaker 1: taken themselves away from the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes. The Jets,
Speaker 1: when UH did, in fact clinch the number one pick
Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, New York will have the number
Speaker 1: two pick. No matter what they do in this game,
Speaker 1: they will have the number two picks. So no Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence welcome whoever you decide to pick number two. Jets.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was sixteen thirty two for one seventy five,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice in the
Speaker 1: victory over the Browns. Jamison Crowder one of one passing
Speaker 1: for forty three yards in a touchdown, one carry for
Speaker 1: fourteen yards, seven catches for ninety two yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The Jets, as they mentioned, were plus two in turn overs.
Speaker 1: New England hasn't played New England place tonight against Buffalo,
Speaker 1: where they are seven point dogs against the Bills, who
Speaker 1: are trying to get Sean McDermott that Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year award. I would imagine at this point, not that
Speaker 1: they may think about that out loud, but that's probably
Speaker 1: what's online tonight, Buffalo already having won the a f
Speaker 1: C East. I will say in this game, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll just say New England minus four, because Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: doesn't want to let Adam Gaze beat him, So I'll
Speaker 1: just say minus foresight unseen with the Patriots, and I'll
Speaker 1: leave it at that. As it's four and happens five.
Speaker 1: You know, I have no idea how Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: going to approach this game. I mean, you've never been
Speaker 1: in a game like this, you know, And you know,
Speaker 1: I mean even in the Cleveland days. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was in a game like this. You know. I
Speaker 1: just have no idea. But of course they do hate
Speaker 1: the Jets. He hates them personally, and I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Jets feel the exact same way about him. One more
Speaker 1: thing about that the Jets Browns game. You know, I
Speaker 1: think Stefanski has done a great job with Cleveland this year,
Speaker 1: but with no wide receivers, what where was the running game?
Speaker 1: And I know they fall behind earlier that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit. That was a
Speaker 1: terrible coaching performance by Fancy just rushing yards as I
Speaker 1: mentioned for Cleveland season low yesterday. You know, okay, but
Speaker 1: you know they abandoned the run like early in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the game plan was,
Speaker 1: but no wide receivers and one of the best running
Speaker 1: games in the NFL against a horrible team. You can't
Speaker 1: abandon anything early. I mean we were watching it. We listen,
Speaker 1: we needed the Jets to win, and the whole time
Speaker 1: I'm telling Jimmy and then it's still the Jets. They
Speaker 1: could they could blow the game and the number. Believe me, so,
Speaker 1: you know, but the advance that was terrible coaching at
Speaker 1: this point anyway, I'm an open New England five. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what yes, I have nothing else, nothing
Speaker 1: further to add your honor. Jets win that game against
Speaker 1: Cleveland yesterday to sixteen, A seven point Dogs next. Oh,
Speaker 1: here's another one. Vikings at the line. I wouldn't know
Speaker 1: what to make this. Uh, Vikings lose. The Vikings lose
Speaker 1: to the Saints on Christmas and they lose pretty handily.
Speaker 1: Cousins twenty seven forty one, three touchdowns, No Pixie was
Speaker 1: sacked twice. Adam Feeling eight for ninety seven and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Minnesota eliminated from playoff contention while allowing the most points
Speaker 1: by any Vikings team since nineteen sixty three in that game,
Speaker 1: fifty two points to the Saints. They lose fifty two
Speaker 1: to thirty three. Camara had six touchdowns himself. We'll get
Speaker 1: to him. Vikings never let in that game. They gave
Speaker 1: up five hundred eighty three yards. The most ever gained
Speaker 1: by a Vikings opponent and New Orleans is two hundred
Speaker 1: sixty four yards rushing were the most by a Vikings
Speaker 1: opponent in Zimmer seven seasons. So how about that Minnesota,
Speaker 1: And by the way, another completion of a Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: middling season. Mazel tov to you for a Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions their game uh. They started against Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: without interim coach Darryl Bevel along with the sistance on
Speaker 1: the defensive staff because of COVID nineteen contact tracing the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Coach Robert Prince was their head coach for
Speaker 1: the day, and they played much of the game without
Speaker 1: quarterback Matt Stafford. He was questionable to play with hipp
Speaker 1: and thumb injuries. Then he heard his right ankle on
Speaker 1: the opening drive didn't return anyway. They got housed forty
Speaker 1: seven to seven. Tampa Bay could have scored a hundred
Speaker 1: if they wanted to. Stafford was two of three for seventeen.
Speaker 1: Daniel Chase Daniel thirteen of eighteen for eighty six. Blow
Speaker 1: came in six of ten for forty nine. They had
Speaker 1: twelve total first downs in that game versus thirty for Tampa.
Speaker 1: They were one of ten on third downs on eighty
Speaker 1: six total yards versus the five, eight, eight for Tampa
Speaker 1: minus two in turnovers. They had eleven penalties just for
Speaker 1: good measure, the Lions did for one seventeen yards. They're
Speaker 1: only scored Jamal Agney returning upon seventy four yards in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I don't know Minnesota by by something,
Speaker 1: by six, but we have no idea who's playing for Detroit,
Speaker 1: who's coaching or whatever, So I have no clue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at six and only a couple of numbers out there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna half. I mean, I gotta wait to see
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with Stafford. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: crazy if they're playing. But these two teams gave up
Speaker 1: combined points this past weekend. I mean, two teams totally
Speaker 1: in the tank. So I don't I have no Let's
Speaker 1: put it this way, I have no idea what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open, probably around six and a half. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody beating down the doors the bet
Speaker 1: game in the first place unless they actually know something.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna hold up on this one. I agree. Well,
Speaker 1: not well. I can't imagine it being a heavily bet
Speaker 1: game unless they know something. As I said tonight, the
Speaker 1: first time we've seen the New England Patriots play a
Speaker 1: game of no consequence in almost twenty years, It's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. Um still more interesting than the Masks singer?
Speaker 1: Say again, the mask singer, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It's all the commercials that they played during UH Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football Mass Mass dancer. By the way, just scanning
Speaker 1: the TVs, Our National Nightmares over, Lori Laughlin is out
Speaker 1: of jail, very excited for her. Yes, collective sigh of relief,
Speaker 1: Great National Nightmares over? Didn't President Ford say that once
Speaker 1: upon a time? By the way, Christie, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what Jimmy Carter was our rock and roll president. Have
Speaker 1: you seen the ads for this documentary coming up? Who knew? No?
Speaker 1: I'm not very very excited to find out Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: being our rock and roll president with music. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we shall see about that. I picture him more of
Speaker 1: a Johnny Cash type early rock and roll. Alright, number,
Speaker 1: let's see what are we were? Still in early games?
Speaker 1: Are we late games yet? Yeah? Eight late games? How
Speaker 1: many early games? Seven early games? So this is our
Speaker 1: seventh and final early game? Oh we got one more?
Speaker 1: What's the next? Right? Shoot? We've got two more? At
Speaker 1: uh Falcons at the Bucks. Falcons at the Bucks. Let's
Speaker 1: see here, Falcons at the Bucks Again. Falcons lose to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They do so seventeen to fourteen as eleven
Speaker 1: point dogs. Young Hey Kup missing a a thirty nine
Speaker 1: yarder with nine seconds left in this game sealed the deal.
Speaker 1: UH Matt Ryan and defeat seven thirty five three, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks we sacked four times. Ridley five or one thirty.
Speaker 1: Falcons have lost four straight, all by five points are fewer.
Speaker 1: It's their seventh loss this season in a one possession game.
Speaker 1: Wow Tampa Bay. Meanwhile, Uh, as we said, they crushed
Speaker 1: the lines forty seven and seven. Tom Brady twenty two
Speaker 1: of twenty seven for three for his personal record by halftime,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no picks sacked once. It was his third
Speaker 1: career game with a perfect passer rating one fifty eight
Speaker 1: point three. Only quarterbacks every throw four touchdowns in three
Speaker 1: forty plus yards before halftime, his second time doing it.
Speaker 1: Only half he needed to play Bucks on seven to seven.
Speaker 1: They rested Brady ahead thirty four to nothing. The Buck,
Speaker 1: the largest halftime lead in franchise history, sealed the spot
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. For the first time since two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: the NFL's second longest postseason drought behind Cleveland. I would
Speaker 1: not have been able to name that Tampa Bay had
Speaker 1: the second longest playoff drought outside of Cleveland Cleveland eighteen years.
Speaker 1: They're trying to uh break that drought this coming Sunday.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay set team records and points in yard three
Speaker 1: thirty four and four ten in the first half. Remember,
Speaker 1: they had been outscored fifty nine to seven in the
Speaker 1: opening quarter of their previous six games. NFL record twelve
Speaker 1: straight seasons making the playoffs for Brady, She's Gabett came
Speaker 1: in playing Gabett. That is nine of fiftee two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no pixy sack once, Evans ten for one eight one
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, Godwin five of eight rather five eight four
Speaker 1: h five Ready four touchdown, Gronk two for fifty eight
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. They got thirty first downs and total
Speaker 1: yards Tampa Bay single game record four seventy seven of
Speaker 1: which were passing. So Tampa Bay again incentive to get
Speaker 1: the fifth seed. Can they figure out a way to
Speaker 1: do that so that they can face the NFC East winner.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is always playing one score games. I'll say Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay minus four and a half, no more than that six.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what my numbers came to. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Falcon just I mean, a win by
Speaker 1: the Falcons would have been beautiful on a couple of
Speaker 1: different levels. I can't think of what the second level
Speaker 1: might be, but I won't speculate. Yeah, and then I'm
Speaker 1: watching the games. We're back there. Come on, that Ryan
Speaker 1: pulled us. I'll never say anything bad about you again
Speaker 1: until you blow the next game you're supposed to win
Speaker 1: for me. So but you know that was just Atlanta
Speaker 1: just keeps losing these close games one way or another.
Speaker 1: They blew up thirty nine yards field goal that would
Speaker 1: have put the game into overtime. She's uh, anyway, I
Speaker 1: make the game six. That's what my numbers can come to.
Speaker 1: I pretty much see, um, you know, a solid six
Speaker 1: with no variation. So that's what I'm gonna open it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more here before the break.
Speaker 1: Ravens at the Bengals. Ravens at the Bengals. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: according to what I said earlier, this is uh oh no, no,
Speaker 1: this is an early game. Is this early or late
Speaker 1: is early game? Still early? Okay, I think we might
Speaker 1: have maybe we played one late game. I think my
Speaker 1: accident first games was there was messed up, there was
Speaker 1: a late game, like the very first game was out
Speaker 1: of whack. All right, so this is an early game. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: Baltimore say again, who are they planning? Baltimore Cincinnati CCATI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we discussed these little Lamar Jackson beating the Giants. He
Speaker 1: was seventeen of twenty six thirteen carries for eighty uh.
Speaker 1: Ravens were eight of eleven on third down. The Giants
Speaker 1: are one of ten on third They had two forty
Speaker 1: nine rushing yards. Perfect Ravens kind of game script. Ten
Speaker 1: penalties for sixty five yards. They gotta clean that up.
Speaker 1: But they can clinch a playoff berth with a win
Speaker 1: next week at Cincinnati or one loss by either Cleveland
Speaker 1: or Indianapolis. So a win by the Ravens puts him in,
Speaker 1: or one loss by Cleveland or Indianapolis. The Colton the
Speaker 1: Browns losses this past weekend thrust the Ravens past both
Speaker 1: of them in the a f C wild card hunt,
Speaker 1: and then Cincinnati's we mentioned one, their second in a row.
Speaker 1: Good for Zach Taylor and Cincinnati their four ten and
Speaker 1: one now so not got awful, just awful. Brandon Allen
Speaker 1: in probably the most surprising box score line of the
Speaker 1: weekend twenty nine of thirty seven for three seventy one
Speaker 1: against the Ravens two touchdowns note picks, he was not sacked.
Speaker 1: Sam J. P Rhyme thirt two touchdowns. Tee Higgins good
Speaker 1: rookie season for te Higgins six for ninety nine in
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Bengals had five hundred and forty total yards
Speaker 1: in this game against Houston. By the way, against Houston,
Speaker 1: not against Baltimore. The playing Baltimore here. Five forty total
Speaker 1: yards against Houston, four hundred fifty three uh given up
Speaker 1: to the Texans. It wasn't all great, but it's the
Speaker 1: first road win for Zach Taylor ever as head coach
Speaker 1: of the Bengals. How about that against the Texans thirty
Speaker 1: seven to thirty one win that knocked out some survivors.
Speaker 1: As I said, I had I had Baltimore planned, if
Speaker 1: the Rams had one, I would have played Baltimore yesterday
Speaker 1: and I would have played the Colts next week. It
Speaker 1: was so perfectly set up God, I hate the Rams,
Speaker 1: but that's a different story. Uh sorry, sorry to stray
Speaker 1: Baltimore had since the datie Baltimore are they're gonna be
Speaker 1: double digit favorites ten and a half, I'll say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a little light. It's eleven eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I made this fourteen. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm overlooking how well the Bengals have played last
Speaker 1: couple weeks, because they did. They played well. And I've
Speaker 1: knocked Zack Taylor as much as any coach. I just
Speaker 1: I think he's been a terrible coach. But you know what,
Speaker 1: guy did get better and he was a young coach
Speaker 1: and he was terrible last year and maybe he's getting
Speaker 1: better this year. And uh, you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: like the Bengals early on. I think I said on
Speaker 1: the show when Joe Burrow was playing, I said, look
Speaker 1: for the Bengals to cover some big numbers. Not because
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a lot of games, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: cover some numbers as a dog. You know, Burrow went
Speaker 1: out and they kind of tank a little bit. But
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks are playing well. But I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, the Ravens are playing really well too,
Speaker 1: although if you look back, the last four games are
Speaker 1: on a blue winning street. But they played nothing but
Speaker 1: garbage that whole way. Um, so is that why they're
Speaker 1: suddenly rearing their ugly heads once again as one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, not just the a
Speaker 1: f C. But they played a terrible team here. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, they've been terrible all season, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not so terrible lately. So my number is
Speaker 1: probably a little like my number came like fourteen. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open eleven and a half. I see it,
Speaker 1: um and I saw some ten and a halves really
Speaker 1: been not anymore. I see eleven, eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna going to high end here eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: But if I season is going to high, I think
Speaker 1: it might go higher. Myself a matter of fact, that
Speaker 1: I might even open twelve. I'm gonna put down a
Speaker 1: twelve and and open that. Everyone. Let's take it. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go higher. Ravens are playing good, like
Speaker 1: I said, against garbage teams. The question is sort of
Speaker 1: the Bengal still garbage team or are day? So we'll
Speaker 1: see on Sunday. I guess all right, so we've gotten
Speaker 1: through half the schedule. So Tennessee is that if I'm
Speaker 1: based on the numbers that we've gone through so far,
Speaker 1: you would think Tennessee would be the play so far
Speaker 1: in the games for me. But as you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know Houston plays all these these tight games.
Speaker 1: They fumbled three of the last four away on the
Speaker 1: final possession, So I'm not like racing to play Tennessee
Speaker 1: even though I guess them at ten and it's seven
Speaker 1: and a half. And that's that's also the game that
Speaker 1: was a late game based on I based on my
Speaker 1: template here where the early games. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jason,
Speaker 1: But based on my template that the early games were
Speaker 1: all a f C ins and outs, so meaning the
Speaker 1: Cleveland's and the Miami's and the Baltimores of the world.
Speaker 1: In the late frame, it's a f C South NFC
Speaker 1: number one seed at NFC ins and out. So the
Speaker 1: Tennessee game must be a late game. Yeah, the Tennessee
Speaker 1: game and the Colts games are late games. Okay, So
Speaker 1: Tennessee is I'm looking at dawn best. They still have
Speaker 1: those lists as ten o'clock games. Okay, Yeah, they definitely.
Speaker 1: The NFL definitely scheduled this so that you could not correlate.
Speaker 1: You know. Again, we we this changed a few years
Speaker 1: ago where that we're always correlated parlay opportunities with early
Speaker 1: games and late games. They have completely legislated that out
Speaker 1: of the final week seventeen schedule. Um, they'll tell you
Speaker 1: they didn't have gambling in mind, but it's awfully suspicious
Speaker 1: that you can't do that anymore. Uh, Chrisie Andrews is
Speaker 1: here with us. We're guessing lines for week seventeen, and
Speaker 1: again for those just landing on this show for the
Speaker 1: first time. Uh, Typically this is about an exercise to
Speaker 1: extract value from the upcoming upcoming week's line, week lines,
Speaker 1: week's lines. Thank you. So the guessing lines intro. We
Speaker 1: didn't have the music, no music, just a quiet one.
Speaker 1: We're not sure how Chris feels about the music. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we just we got rid of the music. Sorry, Chris,
Speaker 1: we didn't. They didn't clear it with you. I apologize
Speaker 1: pure Typically this is about extracting value. But it's Week
Speaker 1: seventeen and the optim when the word we're using is squirrely,
Speaker 1: Everything is squirrely. So we're trying to find value, but
Speaker 1: motivations are suspect and uh, amateur psychology is at the
Speaker 1: four this week, and so we don't want to get
Speaker 1: into that typically, but we'll do our best here. What
Speaker 1: is next in the afternoon window, Chrissie, Well, I still
Speaker 1: have this in the morning games, so Jason might have some.
Speaker 1: I'm born on don desk, so that's all I have
Speaker 1: is time change. But anyway, it's stole morning game, and
Speaker 1: I believe you may have something to say about one
Speaker 1: of these teams. Uh, we got the Dolphins at the Bills.
Speaker 1: Dolphins at the Bills, So yes, this is an early game.
Speaker 1: It's an early game. Okay, so we jacked up the order.
Speaker 1: But again, what you need to know is the early
Speaker 1: The early window involves all the a f C teams
Speaker 1: that are trying to make the playoffs at the risk
Speaker 1: of being out of the playoffs. The late window is
Speaker 1: about a f C South title. Indianapolis also included in
Speaker 1: that because they have two different ways of getting in
Speaker 1: about the NFC number one seed and about NFC ins
Speaker 1: and outs of the playoffs. It feels like they moved
Speaker 1: then FC South games to the afternoon. Yes, and then
Speaker 1: the night game is for the NFC East Washington, whether
Speaker 1: they win or lose. Okay, So Miami at Buffalo, you said, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: so the rates. So the Dolphins beat the Raiders in
Speaker 1: dramatic fashion on Saturday. Uh and they do so by
Speaker 1: the score of twenty six to twenty five. And let's
Speaker 1: go over just again the the ending of that game,
Speaker 1: sixteen to sixteen. The Dolphins put in They put in
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. He leads a field goal drive to make
Speaker 1: it sixteen to sixteen with four oh one left. Then
Speaker 1: there's the eighty five yard touchdown past and Nelson Agilor
Speaker 1: from Derek Carr, who played in this game. Surprisingly, let's
Speaker 1: put the Raiders up twenty two to sixteen. They missed
Speaker 1: the extra point. He out jumped Byron Jones with a
Speaker 1: catch and then he juked Bobby McCain. Then Fitzpatrick gets
Speaker 1: the ball back. Flores again had inserted him in for
Speaker 1: an ineffective two of the drive before fifty nine yard
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Miles Gaskins. Gaskins did all the work
Speaker 1: there to put the Dolphins up twenty three to twenty two. Again,
Speaker 1: this is all in the last four minutes. In one second,
Speaker 1: then the p I on Byron Jones as he was
Speaker 1: covering Nelson Aghaloor deep. Again, a lot of people had
Speaker 1: trouble with that call. I thought live that it was
Speaker 1: a ad call, but on replay he did have both
Speaker 1: of his hands on Agilor and the ref was looking
Speaker 1: right at it, so I understand why they called it.
Speaker 1: That led to the field goal that put the Raiders
Speaker 1: up twenty five to twenty three all in, and then,
Speaker 1: of course what happened at the end with nineteen seconds
Speaker 1: left in the game, um the fits magic one play
Speaker 1: was enough to move the Dolphins from their own twenty
Speaker 1: five into field goal range. Matc Collins was left to
Speaker 1: open for a thirty four yard pass that Fitzpatrick through
Speaker 1: while being dragged down by the face mask by arden Key.
Speaker 1: The penalty moved the ball down to the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: twenty six, setting up Jason Sanders winning kick twenty six
Speaker 1: twenty five. The Dolphins win it with no time remaining
Speaker 1: on the clock. Fitzpatrick's desperation heave uh to Hollands, setting
Speaker 1: up Sanders forty four yards. Forty four yard field goal
Speaker 1: moves the Dolphins a step closer to a playoff berth.
Speaker 1: With that improbable win TWA was seventeen of twenty two
Speaker 1: for ninety four yards. That's it, touchdown note picks. He
Speaker 1: was sacked three times. And I said it on this
Speaker 1: show and I've said it on Primetime Action that Brian
Speaker 1: Floor is as great as he's been this year. And
Speaker 1: we talked about it, you and me Chrissy on this show.
Speaker 1: He sort of painted himself into the corner with TWA,
Speaker 1: like what happens if they really need to win a game,
Speaker 1: or if they're in a game in game and they
Speaker 1: really have a moment where they got to get a
Speaker 1: drive done, and he regained his senses and he went
Speaker 1: to Fitzpatrick. He did it. I always wondered what he
Speaker 1: would do, and he did, in fact do it. Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: ends up nine of thirteen for a hundred eighty two yards,
Speaker 1: one touchdown note picks, no sacks in less than a quarter.
Speaker 1: It's Gil Alexander, It's Chris Andrews. This is a numbers
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Speaker 1: through for a hundred eighty two yards and a touchdown
Speaker 1: with a passer rating of one. Thirty seven point five
Speaker 1: per ESPN Stats and Information, It tied for the most
Speaker 1: productive fourth quarter Fitzpatrick's sixteen year career. He led three
Speaker 1: scoring drives in the fourth quarter for Miami, with the
Speaker 1: final one the most unlikely. After the Raiders bypassed a
Speaker 1: gimme touchdown for a field goal, the move to play
Speaker 1: for the field goal backfired. Raiders lost on a kick instead.
Speaker 1: Um Miles Gaskin, who was a fourteen carries for eight
Speaker 1: seven yards, five catches for a d two and two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: said quote, probably the most fun game I've ever played
Speaker 1: in my life. But let me just say this now
Speaker 1: about everybody, and I'm hearing it everywhere in sports media,
Speaker 1: and no one has been more critical of John Gruden
Speaker 1: than I have on this show. But the people who
Speaker 1: are killing John Gruden for settling for a field goal
Speaker 1: there at the end, what are you talking about? That
Speaker 1: is the most results based analysis I've ever witnessed ever
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It was absolutely the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: After the Raiders kicked that field goal leaving nineteen seconds
Speaker 1: left on the clock. The Raiders have a nine nine
Speaker 1: point nine win probability way, and so there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some people out there who are listening are like, if
Speaker 1: the numbers, it's like you're just like your shows called
Speaker 1: the Numbers Game or something. Okay, well, if you don't
Speaker 1: like that, let me just do it historically for you.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins became the second team in the past twenty
Speaker 1: years to take over that deep in their territory in
Speaker 1: the final thirty seconds. Remember they took over at their
Speaker 1: own twenty five. Became the second team in the past
Speaker 1: twenty years to take over that deep in their territory
Speaker 1: in the final thirty seconds when trailing and dry for
Speaker 1: the winning score. And remember they only at nineteen left
Speaker 1: Green Bay did it to Detroit five years ago, you
Speaker 1: may remember on a desperation pass from Aaron Rodgers to
Speaker 1: Richard Rogers. I think we all remember that. So, in
Speaker 1: other words, both from a win probability standpoint and a
Speaker 1: historical standpoint, of course, what John Gruden did was right.
Speaker 1: All these people who are who are basing their analysis
Speaker 1: on the result of what happened, you're killing John Gruden.
Speaker 1: This is not an Anthony Lynn situation where it was
Speaker 1: an awful decision. This is actually a good decision. It
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. It's amazing to me how people
Speaker 1: can't remove the results from the process of it. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to blame anything, if you want to
Speaker 1: blame anything, the Raiders sideline allowing car to kneel down
Speaker 1: on third and goal with six full second still on
Speaker 1: the play clock, gifting Miami additional time for its future
Speaker 1: you know, game winning field goal. Okay, you can blame
Speaker 1: them for that. That I would agree with, at least
Speaker 1: milk it to the end of the play clock. The
Speaker 1: other thing is and I'll leave it at this, but
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what people are missing is
Speaker 1: on that play from Fitzpatrick to maccollins. Maccollins had got
Speaker 1: thirteen balls all year, the big thirty four yard passed
Speaker 1: were Fitzpatrick got his face mask wrenched the corner bit
Speaker 1: in the same on the flat pattern, the same way
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson of the Jets bid on it against
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Henry Ruggs in the Raiders dramatic win against
Speaker 1: the Jets a few weeks back. Who was that cornerback
Speaker 1: Damon r Net. Now, Raiders fans, you can blame Jon
Speaker 1: Gruden all you want, but you all lost this game
Speaker 1: in April because the Raiders chronically overdraft. They overdraft Cleveland Ferrell.
Speaker 1: They criminally overdrafted Damon r. Nett. Remember he was the
Speaker 1: one guy in the first round that was that was
Speaker 1: picked way ahead of where he was projected to be picked.
Speaker 1: Because the Raiders don't understand the draft. They pick these
Speaker 1: guys they like, they get fixated on players, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we have to have him, we have to have him,
Speaker 1: and so when their pick comes up, they grab him,
Speaker 1: even though they could play it, they could get the
Speaker 1: guy much later, but the Raiders aren't like that. They're like,
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs available at twelve, we don't care. We've got
Speaker 1: to have Henry Ruggs now, even though they might have
Speaker 1: ended up with a better wide receiver at twelve or
Speaker 1: gotten HENR. Ruggs later. And then it nineteen. Here's Damon Arnette,
Speaker 1: who no one projected in the first round, and they
Speaker 1: grabbed Damon Arnette. Well, Damon Arnette bit on that pass.
Speaker 1: So if you want to blame the Raiders, blame them
Speaker 1: for not letting Derek Carr milk the final six seconds
Speaker 1: out of that play clock, and blame them from drafting
Speaker 1: Damon Arnette when they did. But John Gruden didn't do
Speaker 1: anything wrong. Stop fixating on the result, not the decision
Speaker 1: making process. And that's my rant. Chris Andrews, what game
Speaker 1: was this again? Uh? I forgot completely. Dolvin's at the Bills.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Bills haven't played. Bills played the
Speaker 1: Patriots to night. There's seven point favorites. Bills are eleven
Speaker 1: and three. They're a hail They're a hail mary away
Speaker 1: from being twelve in two and if they win out
Speaker 1: there a hail mary away from being fourteen and two.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott ought to be the coach of the year.
Speaker 1: I'll say the Bills. And here's here's one of these
Speaker 1: two where we don't know, right, we don't know the
Speaker 1: Bill's motivation will be. Does it mean enough to them
Speaker 1: to win out and play everybody? Will they care to
Speaker 1: play Josh Allen in this game next week? There is
Speaker 1: some question again, as we mentioned, with Pittsburgh number two
Speaker 1: seed or not? Do they care about the number two seed?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'll just as a placeholder,
Speaker 1: I'll say Buffalo minus two and a half. But I'm
Speaker 1: just guessing we appropriately after that eleven minute ramp. There's
Speaker 1: no number on this, that's awesome. But I have a
Speaker 1: commentary and very quick not it's far less than eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: But have ever noticed the uh, the Bills post the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: you know in Buffalo for the second they played twice
Speaker 1: a year. The second matchup is almost always in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I think it's I have noticed that things like Okay,
Speaker 1: so I you know who's a big Bufalo fans and
Speaker 1: for some reason follows me on Twitter? Nick Lacai remembers him.
Speaker 1: Nick have a segment I love Nick. Has changed a
Speaker 1: few messages though. Yeah, he's been on Numbers game a
Speaker 1: couple of times. He's been on the Numbers Game a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I love him. I love Nick. So
Speaker 1: I d M him last night. I said, was there
Speaker 1: some sort of deal? Because you youngsters aren't gonna remember this.
Speaker 1: The Miami was not an original a f L team.
Speaker 1: They came in in sixty six, and I was just saying,
Speaker 1: they put him in Buffalo's division, and it's been changed
Speaker 1: a million times over the years, but it's always been
Speaker 1: Miami and Buffalo, so they always played twice here. Was
Speaker 1: there some sort of deal that they had to go?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big home field, advantage. You know,
Speaker 1: these Florida boys going up to Buffalo in December. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: there's some sort of deal that that had to be
Speaker 1: here and then didn't know, he says, but it sounds
Speaker 1: very much like an a f L thing that they
Speaker 1: would do. Um, so we remember. That's a great point.
Speaker 1: I can, yeah, because we remember it when we were kids,
Speaker 1: that this was always the case with Buffalo in Miami.
Speaker 1: It always seems to be that way. By the way
Speaker 1: of a couple other notes, there is some sort of deal,
Speaker 1: you know when they got in and I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Let those Florida boys come up the Buffalo a deal
Speaker 1: that still last in My god, didn't these didn't the
Speaker 1: merger happen in nineteen seventy. Fitzpatrick, by the way, hasn't
Speaker 1: made the playoffs in his sixteen year career. That's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. Uh. And Brian Flores says that to a
Speaker 1: will start in this game, to a will start, and
Speaker 1: if things go awry, then they'll go to the bullpen
Speaker 1: and get Fitzpatrick again. I guess here's the Miami playoffs situation.
Speaker 1: They clinch a playoff berth with a win over Buffalo
Speaker 1: or one loss by either Baltimore, Cleveland or Indianapolis. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to clear that up. Do we have Brent's
Speaker 1: call on that? Is that what you're saying, Jason, here's
Speaker 1: Brent Musburger, the great ent Musburger from Visan, calling the
Speaker 1: final sequence of this game between the Raiders and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: All right, fits, see what you can do for timeouts,
Speaker 1: and you've got nineteen seconds. A win is a win,
Speaker 1: is a win. We'll take it. That's right, is hit
Speaker 1: And oh my good, how does someone get I don't
Speaker 1: believe this. They got ahold of the face mask and
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick somehow got the ball off. He somehow launched the
Speaker 1: ball and wide open at the of the Raiders defense.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in my life, like
Speaker 1: I have not either, a matter of fact, I should
Speaker 1: not believe he got this ball off. The face mask
Speaker 1: was being wrenched. And if I was in the booth,
Speaker 1: I would have quietly said, they drafted him nineteen, Brent,
Speaker 1: they drafted him bent. Brent would have said, Lad, you're
Speaker 1: never invited in this booth again. But you could make
Speaker 1: a taste. You could make a case that Fitzpatrick's passes
Speaker 1: one of the greatest passes in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 1: given the stakes and how his face was wrenched, certainly
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, it's incredible. I couldn't agree more. That
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. It really was unbelievable to have your faith
Speaker 1: face mask ripped like that. You're you're They turned his
Speaker 1: head like a hudow and he wanted up throwing it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know for the game winning essentially the game winning pass,
Speaker 1: you know from incredible what They turned his head like, Chris,
Speaker 1: what do you say? They turned his head like a
Speaker 1: what who? Yeah, didn't you learning school and owl can
Speaker 1: turn its head three like a hoot owl. I didn't understand.
Speaker 1: I was like, you mean like an owl head hoot?
Speaker 1: So I didn't understand. I never referred him those whod
Speaker 1: owls before he said, like who down? You gotta understand
Speaker 1: my Pittsburgh Gas. Who know. I suppose we better get
Speaker 1: to other games because I'm way behind schedule now, So
Speaker 1: what's what's next? None? No line? Yeah, sorry, we should
Speaker 1: really do show prepp now we're on the afternoon games
Speaker 1: according to my schedule. But I guess Jason may have
Speaker 1: something for the may at Chicago. Yes, this is a
Speaker 1: late game because it involves uh number one seed in
Speaker 1: the NFC. So again the NFL doing this window by windows,
Speaker 1: so you can't have any correlated parlay's happening. In other words,
Speaker 1: in their parlance, an early game, an early game can't
Speaker 1: affect the motivation of a later game, so for beetting implications,
Speaker 1: no correlated parleys. Green Bay at Chicago, Green Bay, as
Speaker 1: we mentioned last night, fifth consecutive win. At one point
Speaker 1: they were out gaining Tennessee in total yards two seven
Speaker 1: to twenty two. That was late in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: They did have their lead cut to nineteen fourteen before
Speaker 1: blowing Tennessee away. Final score for fourteen. They get the
Speaker 1: number one seat if they win or if Seattle loses.
Speaker 1: Playing and simple for the Packers. Aaron Rodgers twenty five
Speaker 1: to thirty one, four touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked
Speaker 1: once and by the way the pick he looked like it.
Speaker 1: He was just how could I have possibly thrown a pick?
Speaker 1: They're gonna be tough in that Green Bay weather, and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is playing the most effortless football I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: A J. Dillon, who had a hundred fifteen rushing yards
Speaker 1: all year, had spent over a month on the COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen reserved list. One carries for one two touchdowns. Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones ten for nine four even though he stepped out
Speaker 1: of bounds. As I mentioned earlier, replay didn't happen quick
Speaker 1: enough for them to challenge it. Davante eleven for one
Speaker 1: forty two and three touchdowns leads the NFL and touchdown
Speaker 1: receptions despite missing two games with a hamstring injury, and
Speaker 1: then four forty eight total yards for for the Packers,
Speaker 1: two thirty four of which were rushing. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Great Magic Johnson tweeting about this, he wants everybody
Speaker 1: to know in case you missed it, about the Suckers
Speaker 1: win last night. Magic always pithy, always describing a situation
Speaker 1: in a way that well, no one else can, and
Speaker 1: it goes a little something like this. With the Packers
Speaker 1: having home field advantage in the playoffs, they will be
Speaker 1: tough to be because of the cold weather and the snow,
Speaker 1: cold weather and snow. Thank you, Magic, Chicago Bears again
Speaker 1: with that big win over Jacksonville, and by big, I
Speaker 1: mean bigg in points in terms of being a twenty
Speaker 1: three point win, but also just in terms of implications
Speaker 1: they gained control of their postseason path when Arizona lost
Speaker 1: to San Francisco on Saturday. Again, I was very surprised
Speaker 1: that people didn't pound Chicago right after that game, but
Speaker 1: they did not. They waited till Sunday to do so. Uh.
Speaker 1: They can clinch a playoff birth with a win in
Speaker 1: this game against Green Bay or an Arizona loss, which
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yes yet. Next week, the Bears
Speaker 1: scored thirty or more points for the fourth consecutive week,
Speaker 1: first time the Bears have accomplished that since nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 1: Not known for their offensive rows, these Bears Trabiski twenty
Speaker 1: four thirty five or two sixty five, two touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 1: You said on his performance was far from perfect. His
Speaker 1: interception came in the end zone late in the first half.
Speaker 1: It was brutal, He scrambled, he threw it into a
Speaker 1: crowd with the Bears and field goal range. He nearly
Speaker 1: had another in the third, so he was doing Drabinsky things.
Speaker 1: Montgomer In a touchdown, Robinson ten catches for one oh three,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham four for sixty nine and two touchdowns. But
Speaker 1: the Packers needed they win their number one seeds. I'll
Speaker 1: say the Packers minus seven. My number is closer to yours,
Speaker 1: but I like your number of better. How's that first time?
Speaker 1: Because it's four and a half, I made the game six.
Speaker 1: You know, I know the Bears are playing much better.
Speaker 1: It's fright they're gonna wind up signing Rabisky. You know
Speaker 1: that's once no doubt. I mean they've been looking, even
Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks and Sid Luckman retired what was that
Speaker 1: in the thirties or something like that, But they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. They're gonna do it anyway. I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: his game five. That's I don't even see a five.
Speaker 1: I see it all four and a half, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a better. Hi. I think Green Bay right
Speaker 1: now is just playing fantastic football. And the Bears, yeah,
Speaker 1: that come alive, certainly, I know, But the Packers right now. Blood.
Speaker 1: If I got the Packers moren for me on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I had no problem with that. So I'm gonna open
Speaker 1: five effortless. Aaron Rodgers looks like nothing on a football
Speaker 1: field surprised him in any way. I know that second
Speaker 1: half against the Panthers last week was a little weird.
Speaker 1: But other than that, it's just like I see what's happening.
Speaker 1: I see what's happening before the play starts. I see
Speaker 1: what's happening while it's while the play is going on,
Speaker 1: I don't change my facial expression. Davante Adams and I
Speaker 1: are telepathically connected. Um. It just seems so easy by
Speaker 1: the way that touchdown past the Adams in the end
Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone. One of his
Speaker 1: three last night, which is you couldn't you could stop
Speaker 1: the tape Rogers couldn't have walked to the ball up
Speaker 1: better to him. Just just unbelievable. Um, all right, so
Speaker 1: what are you putting up finally on that, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use five, although I don't see a five, octor. It's
Speaker 1: all four and a half. If they want to give
Speaker 1: me a bet on on the Bears, And like I
Speaker 1: said on Sunday, if I need the Packers, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that. Again, both teams needed Packers number one seed.
Speaker 1: If they win or Seattle loses the Bears, they can
Speaker 1: clinch a playoff berth with a win or in Arizona
Speaker 1: loss next week. It's amazing, magical, amazing, right, It's a
Speaker 1: great save that the Saints that the Panthers all right,
Speaker 1: so the Saints still have a shot at the number
Speaker 1: one seed again. They crushed Minnesota on a Saturday um
Speaker 1: did so with fifty two points fifty two to thirty
Speaker 1: three win over Minnesota. Minnesota just completely on defense, laying
Speaker 1: down uh. Saints will get the number one seed if
Speaker 1: they win. If Seattle wins and Green Bay loses, Saints win,
Speaker 1: Seattle wins, Green Bay loses, Saints are your number one seed.
Speaker 1: Breeze was nineteen of twenty six for three eleven Who
Speaker 1: cares Alvin Camara twenty two for one fifty five a
Speaker 1: career high and six touchdowns six ties an NFL record
Speaker 1: set in nineteen twenty nine by Ernie Never's by running
Speaker 1: for six in a game forty yards one yard, five yards,
Speaker 1: six yards, seven yards, three yards for one. Yes they did.
Speaker 1: They went to uh tas him for one of them.
Speaker 1: He could add seven. Also has the Saints records for
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns in the season. Now with sixteen. Does camarain
Speaker 1: total touchdowns with twenty one he has five receiving one
Speaker 1: lot of fantasy games on Saturday for people five eighty
Speaker 1: three total yards for the Saints to sixty four, rushing
Speaker 1: thirty six first downs, and they were minus two in turnovers,
Speaker 1: but they had a thirty six forty seven to thirteen
Speaker 1: advantage in time obsession. They never punted, set a record
Speaker 1: of yards gained in a game by Vikings opponent with
Speaker 1: five eighty three. And then Carolina beats Washington yesterday against
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins and and Taylor Heineke. So whatever, Bridgewater nineteen
Speaker 1: of twenty for one, one touchdown, one pick, stack, four
Speaker 1: times lost the fumble, Samuel seven for fifty two on
Speaker 1: the ground, five catches for one of six. They were
Speaker 1: plus two turnovers against Washington. Panthers have eight losses this season.
Speaker 1: With a chance to tire take the lead late in
Speaker 1: the fourth, I'll say New Orleans by seven, by seven
Speaker 1: once once again, I liked your number better. It's six
Speaker 1: or six and a half. I made this game eight
Speaker 1: and a half. Last night I was checking the opening
Speaker 1: lines that opened Saints five and a half. So it's
Speaker 1: been climbing ever since. I have thirty one minutes, he decided,
Speaker 1: But I might open this game seven book on either
Speaker 1: six and after seven. But let me say this. You know,
Speaker 1: first of all, I always got my question marks about
Speaker 1: the Saints. I don't know why I'm not sold on them,
Speaker 1: But as far as the Panthers go, they I think
Speaker 1: they have found the right coach. Now they need a
Speaker 1: lot of help up and down that lineup that they
Speaker 1: found the right coach anyway, six and alf I think
Speaker 1: I might open seven on that. Yeah, you said that before.
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. Matt Rule does appear
Speaker 1: to be the right coach. Again. They fired their GM,
Speaker 1: their longtime GM who they got the two Super Bowls with.
Speaker 1: He may end up in Washington in some capacity with
Speaker 1: the Ron rivera connection Christie. Nick McKay, as it turns out,
Speaker 1: as a Vicent subscriber, just got the word on that
Speaker 1: courtesy Billy. Yeah. Yeah, he's been following me. You know.
Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's hilarious and just a
Speaker 1: brilliant guy. And yeah and he answered me. Yeah. For
Speaker 1: those who don't remember Nick McKay, well before gambling was
Speaker 1: ever uttered on mainstream media, he did a gambling segment
Speaker 1: without calling it a gambling segment, like twenty five years ago,
Speaker 1: and he would say he would think his famous line
Speaker 1: was what was he goes At the end, he would
Speaker 1: be like push right operation push or something like that
Speaker 1: at the end. Yeah, advantage push, advantage push. He also wrote,
Speaker 1: like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he has been on a
Speaker 1: numbers game. I had him on. He told it amazing o.
Speaker 1: J Simpsons story. I'm gonna have to uh resurrect that
Speaker 1: or maybe getting Nick on the show again and asked
Speaker 1: him to tell it. Maybe that's the way to go. Mean,
Speaker 1: we'll get a nickel on this way, the Buffalo guy,
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, okay, you anything about that area? All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to We got more games to get to.
Speaker 1: What's next. By the way, Don Best is just catching
Speaker 1: up with Jason at the time changes the Colts and
Speaker 1: the Texans games were both moved to the at Jason
Speaker 1: has always been a handy Best always. I'm glad Don
Speaker 1: with the program. Gee oh man, I mean we're paying
Speaker 1: these guys to supposed to be ahead, to be fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm not. Next up, Chargers at the Cheese, Charges
Speaker 1: at the Cheese. We don't have to spend much time
Speaker 1: on this, but the Chargers do get it done. Finally,
Speaker 1: Uh they let they let the Broncoes all the way
Speaker 1: back in the game, tied up sixteen to sixteen after
Speaker 1: they were up sixteen three, but they do win at
Speaker 1: nineteen to sixteen. Justin Herbert one of thirty three against
Speaker 1: the Broncos in their nineteen to sixteen win for two
Speaker 1: fifty three one touchdown note picks. He was sacked twice.
Speaker 1: Sets the mark for the most rookie touchdown passes in
Speaker 1: a season twenty eight, eclipsing Baker Mayfields twenty seven a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Led the Chargers on winning drives
Speaker 1: in three straight games. Now he's the fourth player to
Speaker 1: throw for over four thousand yards as a rookie, Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Jameis Winston the others. And again after Brandon
Speaker 1: McManus tied it at sixteen with two forty seven remaining
Speaker 1: with the fifty two yard field goal, Chargers took over
Speaker 1: the twenty five we're in the red zone three plays later,
Speaker 1: and then four plays after that Michael Badgeley with a
Speaker 1: thirty seven yard and with forty one seconds left. That
Speaker 1: held nineteen sixteen winners plus two in turnovers where the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Who knows Anthony Lynn may keep his job after all this,
Speaker 1: because they're six and nine now, I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't care, and they have no reason too
Speaker 1: because they've got the number one seed. Maybe they finished
Speaker 1: seven and nine, Chiefs clinched the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the a f C and to buy and home field
Speaker 1: advantage with their win over Atlanta, which again much closer
Speaker 1: than the the line. It was a a eleven and
Speaker 1: a half point closing spread Kansas City in Atlanta, no
Speaker 1: called eleven even they win by three. Seventeen and fourteen.
Speaker 1: Neither team could score in the first half. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: through a twenty five yard touchdown past de Marcus Robinson
Speaker 1: with just under two minutes to go. The play before
Speaker 1: that should have been a pick by A. J. Terrell, though,
Speaker 1: so whoever had the Chiefs and survivor man was the
Speaker 1: universe smiling on you yesterday? The Terrell non pick and
Speaker 1: then Young hay Kho's thirty nine yard field goal try
Speaker 1: to tie the game looks like it's going right down
Speaker 1: the middle, and all of a sudden like saw like
Speaker 1: a something to the right and turned ninety degrees to
Speaker 1: the right, complete slice, faded it more slice with nine
Speaker 1: seconds remaining, Chiefs escape seventeen and fourteen. It's their tenth
Speaker 1: straight win. They've won the league record seven straight one
Speaker 1: possession games, set the franchise record for wins in a
Speaker 1: season with fourteen uh and Kelsey single season record for
Speaker 1: receiving yards by tight end, eclipsing George Kittle since beating
Speaker 1: the Jets on November one. Here are the margins of
Speaker 1: victory for the Chiefs. Two points, four points, three points,
Speaker 1: six points, six points, three points, three points. That's your
Speaker 1: number one seed, Kansas City Chiefs. They have nothing to
Speaker 1: play for. I don't know what Andy Reid's gonna do. Placeholder.
Speaker 1: I'll say minus four because I don't know what else
Speaker 1: to make it. Well, there's a couple of numbers out
Speaker 1: there that I don't even know if they're better boys,
Speaker 1: And you know, each side favored by two and a
Speaker 1: half one and a half, you know, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put up a line here until we
Speaker 1: find that. What more they want to do. But by
Speaker 1: the way, and you kind of hit on it, suddenly
Speaker 1: they're not playing that great a football right now. I
Speaker 1: mean they're winning a lot of close games. You know
Speaker 1: what a field goal here, a turnover there, they're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if they're gonna lose in
Speaker 1: the playoffs or not. They might that might not. But
Speaker 1: there's some good teams in the a f C. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Buffalo certainly, and Buffalo could beat them.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens are playing some pretty good ball. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just against lousy competition, but this
Speaker 1: team is right for an upset. Might now they're not
Speaker 1: playing that great football. Aaron Shots of Football Outsiders called
Speaker 1: me out on it during the megapod a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, when I very sort of in a lazy fashion,
Speaker 1: said yeah, you know, they turned it on against Miami
Speaker 1: in the second and third quarters they outscored him thirty
Speaker 1: to three. Blah blah blah, and Aaron said, he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's super subjective because it's the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We tend to just purge it as or just to
Speaker 1: sort of you know, process it as, oh, they can
Speaker 1: turn it on and turn it off. But it was
Speaker 1: another team, we would never say that, and I acknowledge
Speaker 1: it. It It was very subjective, by the way. Drew Dinsick
Speaker 1: the next week yesterday last week on on a Numbers game,
Speaker 1: came on and sort of said the same thing. A
Speaker 1: lot of red flags with the Chiefs. Man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough to bet against them. I mean, we're talking
Speaker 1: about betting. Do I still want my money on Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes and the Chiefs? Yeah? I probably do, but I
Speaker 1: get it again. Since November one wins by two points,
Speaker 1: four points, three points, six points, six points, three points,
Speaker 1: and three points. Seven straight one possession wins for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: That's a league record. So interesting. Alright, Christie, we've got
Speaker 1: four more games to get to tee up one of
Speaker 1: them for me as we go into the break here.
Speaker 1: Hawks alright, Seahawks at the forty Niners. Uh, Seahawks clinch
Speaker 1: the NFC West with their win against the Rams yesterday.
Speaker 1: They can clinch the number one seed still with a win,
Speaker 1: a New Orleans loss and a Green Bay loss to Chicago.
Speaker 1: Seattle has allowed nine points per game during their three
Speaker 1: game winning streak. They've held opponents. The seventeen points are
Speaker 1: fewer the last five games. Not exactly a murderers row Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Jets, Washington and the Rams, but still
Speaker 1: for a defense that was criticized, holding opponents the seventeen
Speaker 1: points are fewer the last five games. Wilson was twenty
Speaker 1: five yesterday in the win against the Rams one touchdown,
Speaker 1: note picks. He was sacked five times. And then San Francisco,
Speaker 1: as we we didn't mention, they beat the Cardinals on Saturday.
Speaker 1: C J. Beth thirteen for one two three touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: act three times. Third string quarterback, he was one of
Speaker 1: it was one end nine as a starting quarterback heading
Speaker 1: into it. But Wilson, Jeff Wilson Jr. Three on the ground,
Speaker 1: Kittle four for ninety two in his return the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: playing their final home game of the year in Arizona Home.
Speaker 1: In quotes against the Seahawks, I'll say, Seahawks, mine is six.
Speaker 1: We'll get Chrissie's response, just a placeholder coming back on
Speaker 1: a numbers game at Visa these sports betting netwhere all right,
Speaker 1: Chrissy Seattle at San Francisco. I said, Seattle, mine is six.
Speaker 1: And again Seattle clinching the NFC West yesterday. They can
Speaker 1: clinch a number one seed with a win, a New
Speaker 1: Orleans loss, and a Green Bay loss to Chicago. No
Speaker 1: matter how unrealistic that sounds. Uh, I like your number better.
Speaker 1: It's UH four and a half, it was four. It
Speaker 1: seemed to be climbing. I think I'm gonna open five
Speaker 1: on this one. But I gotta tell you, I have
Speaker 1: been off on the forty Niners all year. This is
Speaker 1: one team with all their issues. You know, I think,
Speaker 1: very good coaching, uh, good general manager, all that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, but they've had a time of injuries, you know,
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl last year. I've been off on
Speaker 1: them all year. But I like Seattle. They their defensives
Speaker 1: playing better. I mean, I know they played some cupcakes,
Speaker 1: but their defense is playing a lot better all of
Speaker 1: a sudden. So I'm gonna open five. See if they
Speaker 1: want to take it. But like I said, it opened four,
Speaker 1: most things been on the climb ever since. So I
Speaker 1: think I think this is gonna go higher, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to get ahead of it by opening five.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more Raiders at the Blancos. Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't have to spend much time on this. Raiders
Speaker 1: were oh of ten, zero for ten on third down
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins despite four eighteen total yards, eliminated with
Speaker 1: their fifth loss in six games, and will be out
Speaker 1: of the postseason for the seventh The seventeenth time in
Speaker 1: eighteen seasons, seven being out of the last eighteen years,
Speaker 1: the Raiders haven't made the postseason. Why do we keep
Speaker 1: acting like the Raiders are a great franchise? Stop it? Everybody,
Speaker 1: stop it. So tired of it. But I love you, Oakland.
Speaker 1: I just want to put that out there. So in
Speaker 1: Oakland this weekend, UH coach John Gruden chose to run
Speaker 1: down the clock. As we talked about his quote afterwards,
Speaker 1: I don't regret it one bit. I just regret the
Speaker 1: results unquote. He's right Denver, as we mentioned loss to
Speaker 1: the Chargers, how about Jerry Judy with multiple drops in
Speaker 1: this game? That dude. That dude never dropped a pass
Speaker 1: at Alabama and he dropped like four passes yesterday, one
Speaker 1: of which could have won the game for Denver. What's
Speaker 1: what's up with him? Broncos were minus two in turnovers
Speaker 1: in that game. The big announcement from the Broncos Prissy
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio's coming back. Yeah, I don't know, split the
Speaker 1: difference between Yes, I'll split the difference between three and
Speaker 1: a pick and I'll say Raiders by one and a half.
Speaker 1: No idea. Yeah, it's in one of those games. Between
Speaker 1: one and a half and two and a half. I
Speaker 1: have no real opinion here that I mean, my numbers
Speaker 1: come a little higher. But you know who knows coming
Speaker 1: open to here And we didn't hit on it much
Speaker 1: when we were talking about the Miami but to a
Speaker 1: better learn to throw downfield. He can't be captain checked
Speaker 1: down his whole career ball somewhere. Gee. Well, this is
Speaker 1: again That's why I said I said on numbers game
Speaker 1: with you, I've said it on Primetime Action. Brian Floors
Speaker 1: really painted himself into a corner with two A starting
Speaker 1: no matter what, and he is, according to floor is
Speaker 1: going to start again on Sunday. And I guess if
Speaker 1: it's magic is there for a relief appearance. But it
Speaker 1: is a very odd way to go about things when
Speaker 1: you are when you have to make a decision. If
Speaker 1: you're the Dolphins, you owe it to your fans and
Speaker 1: try to get in the playoffs. Here and it's two
Speaker 1: of your best foot forward. Now he may be great
Speaker 1: moving forward, but certainly not now. Um and Richard Palmer
Speaker 1: just tweeted a great tweet that Bill's Dolphins game could
Speaker 1: the winner of that win Coach of the Year between
Speaker 1: Brian Flores and Sean McDermott. We talked about the Alabama
Speaker 1: Florida game being for the Heisman between three players. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's for Coach of the Year anyway, last of the
Speaker 1: afternoon game, sir, you know we can't spend much time
Speaker 1: on this either. Cardinals at the wind so yes we can.
Speaker 1: I have her verbal diarrhea here. Not not as much
Speaker 1: as the Dolphins and the and the Raiders. Uh, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and the loss. Arizona loses outright to the Niners
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve, and the Cardinals needed that game, as
Speaker 1: you said at the top of the show, must win situations,
Speaker 1: and I get it. It wasn't technically a must win.
Speaker 1: But if you're in must win situations, games you need
Speaker 1: must wins, you must not be that good. Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: was thirty one of fifty for two forty seven, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick you sacked three times, eight carries for seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. But Arizona's playoff hopes delt a brutal blow
Speaker 1: with the twelve loss, and because of that, they no
Speaker 1: longer control their own destiny. Chicago does. Uh. Air Zona
Speaker 1: will reach the playoffs if the If the Bears rather win.
Speaker 1: They'll reach the playoffs because of a tiebreaker over the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: so Cardinals need help. Kingsbury was the culfort to me
Speaker 1: in this game, watching this game, and the whole time,
Speaker 1: I'm screaming at the tv. Fourth and two from their
Speaker 1: own thirty five. Let's start at the beginning, fourth and
Speaker 1: one at their own thirty four, with six thirty left
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, down seven to three. He goes
Speaker 1: for it at their own thirty four, gets it, gets
Speaker 1: away with it. Fourth and three at their own forty
Speaker 1: eight with two minutes left in the second quarter, down
Speaker 1: seven to three, gets away with it, Fourth and five
Speaker 1: at their own forty two, with two thirty five left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, down fourteen to six, gets away
Speaker 1: with it. And then finally you knew it was gonna
Speaker 1: come back and get him. And then the absolute audacity
Speaker 1: of going for it fourth and two from his own
Speaker 1: thirty five, down fourteen to twelve, with nine eighteen left,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And it finally bit him in
Speaker 1: the butt. Cliff Kingsbury, that's on you, dude, that's on you.
Speaker 1: Just reckless. Got away with it a few times, didn't
Speaker 1: get away with it the last time. And then there's
Speaker 1: the Rams, who again have I pointed out that the
Speaker 1: Rams stabbed me in the heart and survivor, and that
Speaker 1: my final two picks. The Ravens cruised yesterday and the
Speaker 1: Colts are fourteen point favorites, as we've already established. Next week,
Speaker 1: all right, never mind thirty five left and Survivor, congratulations
Speaker 1: to you all. We'll track that as the week goes on.
Speaker 1: The Rams can still get a playoff birth. They can
Speaker 1: still clinch a playoff birth despite their loss to Seattle
Speaker 1: yesterday with a win or a Chicago loss. But NFL
Speaker 1: media is now reporting that Jared Golf may have broken
Speaker 1: his thumb when he hit it on a Seahawks defensive
Speaker 1: end Benson Mayowa's helmet on a pass attempt in the
Speaker 1: second half. Golf was able to play the rest of
Speaker 1: the game after the injury, but that doesn't mean it's
Speaker 1: a sure thing that will make the start against the
Speaker 1: Cardinals this week. John Wolford had a wake Forest as
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback. He's never appeared in a regular season game.
Speaker 1: That's also the case for practice squad quarterback Bryce Perkins.
Speaker 1: The Rams again will advance to the postseason with a
Speaker 1: win where Bears lost consecutive losses for the Rams with
Speaker 1: the first time this season. Jared Goff thirty four, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick, three, three sacks, and as Pro Football Talk tweeted,
Speaker 1: because you know, this is my favorite subject of all time,
Speaker 1: you cannot win a Super Bowl without a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: who excuse me, a quarterback who overperforms on a rookie contract,
Speaker 1: or a Hall of famer. And here's how Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk put it in sixtinctly. Yesterday, Jamis Winston and Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota drafted one and two. Their teams didn't extend them,
Speaker 1: and after five years that was that. Jared Golf and
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz drafted numbers one and two, their teams extended
Speaker 1: them after only three seasons, and now they both regret it.
Speaker 1: The NFL is a tough business. That's a painful tweet
Speaker 1: to read with that Jared Goff face. But broken thumb
Speaker 1: man shouldn't be playing Rams minus four, I guess, But
Speaker 1: we don't know the quarterback, Christie, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I see a couple of numbers out there, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that they're better ble, but it four is
Speaker 1: what I see. I'm up, putting ending up. I gotta
Speaker 1: find out what's going on with golf. But as far
Speaker 1: as the Cardinals go, you know, I've never been a
Speaker 1: Kingsbury man. I don't know why he should be an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, maybe not a head coach. And I've never
Speaker 1: been crazy by Murray either, So I have my questions
Speaker 1: about this team, certainly, But you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: put this up. And now I've got to hear more
Speaker 1: about the golf st and Wofford? Was that the guy's name? Whatever?
Speaker 1: The backup corn, I don't even remember him. I don't
Speaker 1: remember Sean McVeigh, though. I'll bet you the guys better
Speaker 1: than we think. Where does Sean McVeigh end and where
Speaker 1: does Jared Goff begin? I'm not so sure I think
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's a genius anymore. I got news for you
Speaker 1: Sunday night, NFC East. What's the matchup Washington at Philly.
Speaker 1: I know this one, Washington, that silly. If Washington wins,
Speaker 1: they win the NFC East. Baby Dwayne Haskins yesterday fourteen
Speaker 1: one fifty four, no touchdowns, two picks, He was sacked twice,
Speaker 1: he lost a fumble, he was stripped of his captaincy
Speaker 1: this week after parting with several people that's very generic.
Speaker 1: He was at a strip club without a mask and
Speaker 1: he got docked forty dollars stripped of his captaincy. Chase
Speaker 1: Young is now the captain, breaking COVID nineteen rules. All
Speaker 1: three to his turnovers. All three of US turnovers yesterday
Speaker 1: were in the first half. He was benched for a
Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback Taylor Heneke in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: then for good measure, in case you missed it, Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins skipped his postgame press conference yesterday. Good riddence, dude,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is he he is? There's problems, man,
Speaker 1: way beyond football problems with that kid. This will be
Speaker 1: his last game in a Washington uniform, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Taylor Heneke. By the way, it was twelve of nineteen
Speaker 1: for one thirty seven in relief. Since the start of eighteen,
Speaker 1: Washington is ten and five with Alex Smith starting their
Speaker 1: six and twenty six with other starting. How about that
Speaker 1: ten and five with Smith six and twenty six with others.
Speaker 1: We don't know if Alex Smith is playing in this
Speaker 1: game or not. Chase Young four tackles, one sack, forced fumble,
Speaker 1: fumble recovery. He's amazing. But they had four turnovers and
Speaker 1: they were minus two in turnover. So they lose to
Speaker 1: the Panthers, and then Philly, as I mentioned, up fourteen
Speaker 1: to three against the Cowboys, then they just go to
Speaker 1: just into the Crapper. Six loss in seven games for
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're eliminated from playoff contention. DeShawn showed up,
Speaker 1: had to catch Rading one yards and a touchdown, back
Speaker 1: pedaled his way into the end zone, did a flip,
Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, we're up fourteen to three. Hey Deshaun,
Speaker 1: you got outscored thirty four to three the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. Maybe not do that. Maybe your team's eliminated.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make this. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it's Alex Smith, Washington might be favored by a tick.
Speaker 1: If it's not, Philly's gonna be favorite. But we don't know.
Speaker 1: Rivers come out and said that Haskins will not start
Speaker 1: according to Breaking News. Errand well that we know it's
Speaker 1: Heineki or Smith, but it's not. It's definitely not Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins anymore. He's done. So I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make it. Chris that, but it's the Eagles. One is
Speaker 1: pretty much the number I got. I got bet on
Speaker 1: Washington before the season and make the playoffs for a
Speaker 1: pretty big bet. I need Washington and to win here
Speaker 1: so that that might influence my number a little bit
Speaker 1: along the way here too. But at least Tyler Heiney
Speaker 1: I remember him in college. Not like the ram guy,
Speaker 1: you know, so he was a pretty good player. Uh
Speaker 1: but Haskins, I think you're looking at the Jamacus Russell too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never take a snap in the NFL again. I don't
Speaker 1: think Christie, I don't like anything. That's my honest answer.
Speaker 1: How about you? I like the Cowboys. Like the Cowboys.
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