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Speaker 7: So I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club
Speaker 7: because sometimes you say stuff and it's just gonna get
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Speaker 8: Jay?
Speaker 1: Jay?
Speaker 2: What up?
Speaker 6: Where you calling them from?
Speaker 1: Brother?
Speaker 9: What's up?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 9: I'm calling from bloody Mississippi?
Speaker 11: Jay?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 9: King?
Speaker 1: Get it off your chest? Brother?
Speaker 9: What's up?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 9: I'm just calling as I drive truck for a living
Speaker 9: and I'm still downtied of traffic, bro, traffic, it's just disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of traffic in Mississis.
Speaker 9: No I run the corridor that I corridor over New
Speaker 9: Orleans and uh Houston as well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you're going to major cities, New Orleans
Speaker 2: and Houston. Ain't no jokes, I get it. Just be patient, man,
Speaker 2: and don't drive that truck like you're driving a car.
Speaker 2: I can't stand when people driving back trucks like they're
Speaker 2: driving a little electric car or something, little hondai.
Speaker 1: Remember you've got a truck.
Speaker 12: I tried.
Speaker 9: I tried to drive for myself, for others as well
Speaker 9: as myself.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, Jay, do me a favor.
Speaker 1: What's that blow that had?
Speaker 10: Jay?
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 9: Oh man, I can't do it. I'm in the residential
Speaker 9: area right now.
Speaker 1: I can't come on, jaim in trouble. Don't you blow
Speaker 1: that horn?
Speaker 2: JA, don't wake the people up, j don't you do that?
Speaker 2: Come on, j J Jay, think about the people. Think
Speaker 2: about the people. JA that's sleeping right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I wouldn't want anybody to do it for me,
Speaker 9: so I can't do it.
Speaker 10: That's right.
Speaker 2: I respect that, Jay, do the right thing, even when
Speaker 2: nobody looks not respect that.
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Speaker 1: To say that, Yo, this Monday, man, what's up, Mello?
Speaker 9: What's up? MV?
Speaker 12: I need to bring Charlemagne and you to the front
Speaker 12: of the congregation, because never did y'all call us the
Speaker 12: king of R and B like Chris browns don't good?
Speaker 12: Like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Chris Brown?
Speaker 2: Listen, we salute Chris Brown, but Chris Brown would even
Speaker 2: tell you otherwise.
Speaker 12: Brother, Yeah, because you gotta say that, you feel me.
Speaker 12: You're supposed to train to your idols, become your rifles,
Speaker 12: And I'm sorry he's done a passion like that. That's
Speaker 12: just not TRUEY won't say I will Chris Brown. Chris
Speaker 12: Brown is the king.
Speaker 1: Of R and B like respect Chris Brown?
Speaker 2: Chris Does Chris Brown have an album as good as
Speaker 2: eighty seven oh one? Does he have an album as
Speaker 2: good as Confessions?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I'm all right, Confession that was okay? But respectfully, anything
Speaker 13: that Breezy got me real. He may have vocal talent
Speaker 13: over him, but Breezy got basically everything else. That's the
Speaker 13: only thing I could give him.
Speaker 1: Mellow, I just disagree, Mellow.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I argue with you this morning, arguing mellow,
Speaker 2: And it's not a disrespect to christ Brown.
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is great.
Speaker 2: We got to start backing like she's just not on
Speaker 2: the whole other level.
Speaker 1: Than a lot of people. Man, Hello, who's this?
Speaker 14: Hi?
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, mama, get it off your chest?
Speaker 15: Good morning.
Speaker 5: I feel blessed.
Speaker 15: I just came from the casino, and I came.
Speaker 6: What casino?
Speaker 1: Where you at?
Speaker 12: I'm on Queen's.
Speaker 15: I went to the research for pino.
Speaker 1: Oh, how much you want congratulate?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 15: As long as I can hold someone to ask you.
Speaker 17: Girl, I'll be having it. It's okay.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do with that money? Something? The first
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Speaker 16: Right right, ray, Yo, charlat man, Daffy, what up are
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Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest.
Speaker 16: I got an indoor pool pool.
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Speaker 16: Get on the phone right now, here to tell you
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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this? Yeah? There's it going? Man? God, God,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 6: Get it off your chest while he sounds some damn.
Speaker 14: Brother, No, I ain't dying, just woke up. Man.
Speaker 6: By the summer, your Uber ship where you do ber at?
Speaker 1: I thought? He said? He smoking. I was like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: you gotta get your life together, he said, Uber when you.
Speaker 6: Do uber at bro in Brooklyn on Brooklyn?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 8: Is it is it true that Uber takes like what
Speaker 8: forty percent of what you make?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 9: I don't think the ride popped up with in screen.
Speaker 18: You just accept it and you can get all the money
Speaker 18: from the screen.
Speaker 1: I don't know what anybody be complaining about. And we
Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother, no doubt.
Speaker 9: I appreciate your tea.
Speaker 18: But yeah, I just want to let all the drivers
Speaker 18: know when they'll be on the road, stop with these
Speaker 18: emotional turns. I'ab be making the bike lane is to
Speaker 18: the right every time you drive. Every time is a
Speaker 18: driver in front of another driver and they're trying to
Speaker 18: get around, they always make these emotional turn try to
Speaker 18: get around the driver in front of them, And I'm
Speaker 18: always to the right. Drivers, We are to your right,
Speaker 18: stop with the emotional turns. They're going to hurt somebody. Okay,
Speaker 18: all right, Oh thank you man, no doubt, man, I
Speaker 18: have a good day.
Speaker 1: Bless sir, you too.
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Speaker 1: Who's this?
Speaker 10: What's your boy?
Speaker 9: KP from the blog KP.
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Speaker 14: What up?
Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?
Speaker 10: Bro' telling man, listen, I'm calling because I want to
Speaker 10: be positive this morning. Like in the next like five
Speaker 10: six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival
Speaker 10: cruise and go on this a day trip to turn
Speaker 10: Saint Thomas in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2: Sam.
Speaker 10: I know it's gonna be a good vibe, right man.
Speaker 1: Set the vibes early. I like that. Who you taking
Speaker 1: your wife?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 10: I'm going with the fam like I'm going one of
Speaker 10: my close best friends and mom, everybody like that, my
Speaker 10: extended family.
Speaker 1: That's right. Joy enjoy that, man.
Speaker 2: Put your put your feet again, put your feet in
Speaker 2: the saying of turks and kkos.
Speaker 1: Man, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 10: Yeah nah. In fact, I've been there one time, but
Speaker 10: only when I was younger, So I know it's gonna
Speaker 10: be great now that I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6: Have you been on the cruise before?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Probably, Like nothing. Nothing looks like my ninth time cruise
Speaker 10: and I've been on a Carnival, Caribbean Disney.
Speaker 1: Okay, all things. So you're a professional.
Speaker 8: You know where you need to go, what time you
Speaker 8: need to go to lunch and dinner, and how to
Speaker 8: book all little scourges and all that.
Speaker 1: You're pro after.
Speaker 10: Nah, that's the shack my grandmother taught me a long
Speaker 10: time ago. We've been going on for years, so you know,
Speaker 10: she's not with us no more. But it's something I
Speaker 10: like to keep doing because you know, it makes me
Speaker 10: remember her.
Speaker 1: Okay, bro, have a going Hello.
Speaker 4: Who's this hey?
Speaker 14: Man Jefferson, Man.
Speaker 6: Hey Jefferson, good morning. Get it off your chest.
Speaker 14: Hey, First of all, shout out all Big nine, one four,
Speaker 14: shout out everybody. Shout out with TJ and V Charlamagne.
Speaker 14: Everyone there. Look man, black and you're Republican. I don't
Speaker 14: think that's a bad thing. I just want to get
Speaker 14: that off my chest, that everyone that black does not
Speaker 14: have to think democratically or vote democrat. That was it, man.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't. I don't think that.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, just because you're black and your your
Speaker 2: you're a black and Republican means that you're a bad person.
Speaker 2: But I do feel like, you know, sometimes we vote
Speaker 2: against our own interests.
Speaker 14: But I don't think the Democrats have the best interest
Speaker 14: because I feel like they they're promoting us kind of
Speaker 14: to stay in a system that doesn't really benefit us.
Speaker 14: In a long call, That's all I'm saying my opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with that. Easy. I'm not disagreeing with
Speaker 1: that either. I do.
Speaker 2: I do think that we're in some very very very
Speaker 2: troubling times right now though. And I do see, you know,
Speaker 2: one party leaning heavy towards fascism. But everybody, listen, man,
Speaker 2: vote your own interest. That's what I tell folks.
Speaker 8: Get it off your chest. Eight undrink five eight five
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Speaker 8: your mind, call us up right now. Is the Breakfast
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Speaker 11: Practice. We have offices throughout four of the five boroughs. Generally,
Speaker 11: we provide care in underserved communities, whether what often called
Speaker 11: health deserts. There's no hospitals or not many physicians around,
Speaker 11: and we try and meet patients who need out care
Speaker 11: where they live.
Speaker 2: And I told y'all, I've had every cardiovascular test there
Speaker 2: is to have over the past few months, I had
Speaker 2: named some of them that was EKGs.
Speaker 1: What is some of the.
Speaker 11: Tests I think you had stress tests before you came
Speaker 11: to us. You had a calcium score.
Speaker 2: Calcium score, and yours absolutely not only was the best,
Speaker 2: it's the one that put my mind at ease the most. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you, especially after I got thosels back. But why
Speaker 2: are the important for people of color to get their
Speaker 2: heart tested regularly?
Speaker 11: Important for people of color to get their heart tested
Speaker 11: period and not regularly because one of the challenges is
Speaker 11: they're not regularly getting they're heart tested. People of color
Speaker 11: have a almost one and a half to two times
Speaker 11: the rate of death from heart disease. They get the
Speaker 11: risk factors for heart disease high blood pressure. They often
Speaker 11: develop high blood pressure at an earlier age it's more
Speaker 11: difficult to treat. They have diabetes at a higher rate,
Speaker 11: also a risk factor for heart disease. When they have
Speaker 11: heart attacks, their outcomes are worse. They have a forty
Speaker 11: percent increased chance of dying from a heart attack as
Speaker 11: compared to whites in America, and they often have much
Speaker 11: higher rates seventy percent higher rates of congestive heart failure,
Speaker 11: which is very disabling, and they develop that often at
Speaker 11: an earlier age.
Speaker 6: Well, how can people get tested? Not how can they
Speaker 6: test it?
Speaker 8: Of course, but you know they tell you at forty
Speaker 8: five years old you get a colonoscopy. They tell you
Speaker 8: at this age you do this. At what age should
Speaker 8: people be checking their heart? And you know I go
Speaker 8: to my doctor, you know, twice a year for checkups,
Speaker 8: and that one time has he said, all right, well
Speaker 8: you need to check out your heart or there are
Speaker 8: certain signs where maybe people say you should check out
Speaker 8: your heart, are certain signs where they should do certain
Speaker 8: things or should they be at a particular age where
Speaker 8: this is where you should start doing it more and
Speaker 8: more and more.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So that's a great question. So the answer to
Speaker 11: that question, I think that depends on whether you have
Speaker 11: symptoms or no symptoms.
Speaker 1: If you have.
Speaker 11: Symptoms of discomfort in your chest, shortness of breath, more
Speaker 11: easy fatigue, not able to do the usual level of exercise, dizziness, lightheadedness,
Speaker 11: doesn't matter what age you are, you should be tested
Speaker 11: because let's you remember, heart disease is the number one
Speaker 11: killer in America and even though over the last forty
Speaker 11: years the rate of death from heart disease has come down.
Speaker 11: It has not come down for the black community all
Speaker 11: those as have been in the white community. So second,
Speaker 11: if you're not necessarily symptomatic, okay, overall, you're working, you
Speaker 11: feel good, but you're forty and older as a man
Speaker 11: or fifty year older as a woman, and you've smoked,
Speaker 11: have a family history of heart disease, have high blood pressure, diabetes,
Speaker 11: are high cholesterol, then you should be tested prior to
Speaker 11: the sore in heart scan or cat scanning in general
Speaker 11: of the heart. The only test we had to determine
Speaker 11: if you had heart disease was a stress test, but
Speaker 11: that's not nearly as accurate and doesn't define the heart
Speaker 11: arteries as Charlemagne. When you came in, we sent you
Speaker 11: images of your heart arteries, we gave you a risk assessment,
Speaker 11: and it's costly. Stress testing almost ten times the course
Speaker 11: of a cat skin. But cat scanning now takes four
Speaker 11: minutes or less. If you come into our office less
Speaker 11: than fifteen minutes of your total time, and you have
Speaker 11: a fully accurate, greater than ninety seven percent accuracy of
Speaker 11: your heart anatomy, whether there's blockage, calcium, any any disruption
Speaker 11: that could potentially cause a problem later on in life.
Speaker 6: Well, I was going to ask.
Speaker 8: So you know, you go to the dentists, you have
Speaker 8: a cavity, they can fix it right, flaus it whatever,
Speaker 8: colonoscope they clean your butt out right, so now they
Speaker 8: know you know what he knows what I mean.
Speaker 6: You know, they clean it out, they cut off the polyps.
Speaker 1: You know what it is.
Speaker 8: So if there is a problem with your heart, what
Speaker 8: are the procedures to can it be done right then?
Speaker 1: And there?
Speaker 2: Talk that talk doctor Pumber, This is good. Just just
Speaker 2: move me away when you told me that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So nationally, Medicare is now approved putting heart stents
Speaker 11: right in the office in appropriate facilities. New York State
Speaker 11: has not yet approved that, but our center down in
Speaker 11: Lower Manhattan is built for that, and we have the
Speaker 11: latest technology and cardiac cathorization left where you could have
Speaker 11: a stent foot at that time.
Speaker 1: Just a stent. A stent is a.
Speaker 11: Metal scaffold that when you have a blockage in your
Speaker 11: artery through an artery in your wrists, we put a
Speaker 11: catheter up into the heart and then over a wire
Speaker 11: through the catheter, we can pass a metal stent over
Speaker 11: a balloon and dilate it and clear away the blockage, so.
Speaker 6: The stent doesn't stay inside of it. Was just it
Speaker 6: just cleans out.
Speaker 1: It stays inside you.
Speaker 11: It does and becomes part of the artery wall.
Speaker 8: Okay, so you have a piece of metal in you,
Speaker 8: So every time you go through tsa metal detector you.
Speaker 1: It won't go off. It doesn't. It doesn't go off.
Speaker 11: It's it's very it's very small, three and a half
Speaker 11: millimeters usually, but no, it doesn't set off metal detectors.
Speaker 1: You can use your microwave.
Speaker 11: But it's the most common treatment for blocked arteries in
Speaker 11: the world.
Speaker 2: Can you explain to people what causes heart attacks and strokes?
Speaker 1: Sure, it's a that's a great question.
Speaker 11: And I think it's not only a great great question,
Speaker 11: great question in general, because it's the leading cause of death,
Speaker 11: but in the black community the risk of it is
Speaker 11: so much higher. I know, Charlemagne, you're from South Carolina.
Speaker 11: I told you my family are raised in North Carolina,
Speaker 11: and in that part of the world we call it
Speaker 11: the stroke belt from North Carolina down to Alabama, primarily
Speaker 11: because black men in particular have high blood pressure at
Speaker 11: such an early age, so difficult to control, less likely
Speaker 11: for African Americans to control their blood pressure than White
Speaker 11: that the risk of stroke from that elevated pressure. Over
Speaker 11: time causes either a blood clot in one of the
Speaker 11: arteries to the brain or it just ruptures. Same thing
Speaker 11: with heart attacks or similar At least over time, the
Speaker 11: body builds up plaque in the arteries. Plaque is just
Speaker 11: cholesterol and calcium. Some of it's from our diet, some
Speaker 11: of it's genetic, some is accelerated if you have diabetes.
Speaker 11: In fact, if you have diabetes, you have a three
Speaker 11: times higher risk of dying from a heart attack than
Speaker 11: someone who doesn't have diabetes. So if you have diabetes,
Speaker 11: that ought to be like a flashing neon sign, I
Speaker 11: need to see a cardiologist. And in communities of color,
Speaker 11: when they have high blood pressure and they have diabetes,
Speaker 11: when they end up with a heart attack or a stroke,
Speaker 11: they usually have worse outcomes, a higher risk of dying
Speaker 11: from it, and if they survive, they're more likely to
Speaker 11: have a lower functional status, to be in congestive heart failure,
Speaker 11: or to have physical abnormalities that they're not able to
Speaker 11: do their activities of daily living.
Speaker 8: We have more with doctor Puma when we come back
Speaker 8: don't move as to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Wining.
Speaker 6: Everybody is cj NV charlamagnea god. We are to breakfast Club.
Speaker 6: We're still kicking with doctor Puma.
Speaker 8: A lot of people in our community are scared to
Speaker 8: go to the doctor or can't afford to, don't have insurance.
Speaker 8: So what are some of the signs that they should
Speaker 8: look at. Let's go with diabetes. What is a sign
Speaker 8: of diabetes that people should look out for?
Speaker 11: First of all, I would say healthcare should not be
Speaker 11: just for people well off, for people who have insurance.
Speaker 11: Healthcare should be a right in this country.
Speaker 1: There's no reason, I agree.
Speaker 11: There's just no reason why we should treat any not
Speaker 11: treat any human being that needs our help. Right, and
Speaker 11: if you come to any one of our offices, we
Speaker 11: take care of everyone, regardless of their ability to pay.
Speaker 11: So that's number one.
Speaker 1: Number two. High blood pressure and diabetes both.
Speaker 11: When we're in medical school where taught, they're called the
Speaker 11: silent killers because they often don't have symptoms. Okay, but
Speaker 11: when they do. If you have high blood pressure, you
Speaker 11: might feel flushed sometimes during the day in your face,
Speaker 11: you might get headaches. Okay, you might have chest discomfort,
Speaker 11: you might get short of breath.
Speaker 1: All right, you don't need to go to a doctor.
Speaker 11: You can go to any pharmacy even and they have
Speaker 11: a blood pressure cuff. They're usually and they'll check your
Speaker 11: blood pressure. So simple screening for that. And remember something
Speaker 11: blood pressure diagnosis often it peaks in our thirties or
Speaker 11: in our fifties, So if you're in communities of color
Speaker 11: and you're in your thirties, you should at least get
Speaker 11: a screening for blood pressure. Diabetes also very elusive in
Speaker 11: terms of symptoms. Often the first symptoms a diabetic will
Speaker 11: feel is that they are very thirsty or they're urinating
Speaker 11: a lot, and that's because their sugar levels are high
Speaker 11: and it's making them urinate, which then makes them thirsty.
Speaker 11: They often feel weak, have a brain fog, they just
Speaker 11: never feel clear. And again simple pinprick of your finger
Speaker 11: can tell you if your sugar is high or low
Speaker 11: that you probably do need to go to a doctor
Speaker 11: to have that check. Where simple blood tests. But the
Speaker 11: bigger point is simple screening things just self awareness.
Speaker 1: You bring up fear.
Speaker 11: Fear is a big issue here is a big, big
Speaker 11: issue for for many people. People don't come to me.
Speaker 11: It's it's not like I don't know if you're married
Speaker 11: or you have kids, but you know you remember when.
Speaker 1: You both married. Yeah, my wife. I can't bring that
Speaker 1: up again.
Speaker 6: Wow, Carolinas, Okay.
Speaker 1: I can't bring that up again.
Speaker 11: But anyway, but remember like the first time you're pregnant
Speaker 11: and you go to the doctor, everyone's happy and it's
Speaker 11: exciting time. When people come to me, they're scared. I'm
Speaker 11: not sure what's going on. They may not feel well,
Speaker 11: they may have a family history, so we have we
Speaker 11: have to deal with that fear. One of the ways
Speaker 11: you deal with that fear is by bringing health care
Speaker 11: to them, as opposed to saying, here, I'm in a big,
Speaker 11: fancy building, come to me. I'm really smart. We go
Speaker 11: to them, we want to be in their community, and
Speaker 11: then if there is an issue where they need a test,
Speaker 11: make it easy for them. Okay, explain talk. You know,
Speaker 11: people are a lot smarter than sometimes we give them
Speaker 11: credit for, and understanding where they're from and trying to
Speaker 11: learn about them and their family can help kind of
Speaker 11: bring people together and have an honest conversation.
Speaker 2: I think people want you to talk to about the
Speaker 2: You know, when I asked you what causes the heart
Speaker 2: attacks of scrips. I want you to talk about like
Speaker 2: the blockage and how the plaque breaks off and that stuff.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so in the carnery artery, so for strokes, if
Speaker 11: you have high blood pressure, just the high blood pressure, right,
Speaker 11: It's the same as if you have high blood pressure
Speaker 11: in your water heater at home. If it gets to
Speaker 11: a certain level, boom, it just pops. But in the
Speaker 11: hard arteries. You can even have a mild to moderate
Speaker 11: plaque in your arteries and then some stressor you're smoking
Speaker 11: a cigarette one day, you're in an argument with someone,
Speaker 11: you're having stressful time at work, it can cause that
Speaker 11: plaque to rupture and then causes a blood clot And
Speaker 11: that's a big challenge. The reason when when you ask
Speaker 11: DJ Envy about who should have the scan or you know,
Speaker 11: and we said, even in people who are not symptomatic,
Speaker 11: if they have risk factors, they should have a scan.
Speaker 11: Because one in three people that have a heart attack
Speaker 11: find out they're having they have heart disease the day
Speaker 11: they have their heart attack, and out of those, one
Speaker 11: in three die.
Speaker 1: The day they have their heart attack.
Speaker 11: So it's it's often unpredictable. So unless you know you
Speaker 11: have some plaque. Then there are strategies, as we discussed,
Speaker 11: whether it's statin medications, aspirin counseling to help you maybe
Speaker 11: stop smoking if you smoke, weight reduction, things of that
Speaker 11: nature that can help. But heart attacks are I like
Speaker 11: to think of it this way. You know, if you're
Speaker 11: having if you're lucky enough to have symptoms, it's kind
Speaker 11: of like when you're driving your car and the little
Speaker 11: light goes on, says the tires run and low.
Speaker 14: Right.
Speaker 11: Usually if you're having symptoms or you see that light,
Speaker 11: you'll attend to it correct so that you don't end
Speaker 11: up with a blowout, let's say on the highway.
Speaker 1: That's like a heart attack.
Speaker 11: But many people don't have symptoms until the day they
Speaker 11: have their heart attack.
Speaker 2: And I want to read my results that doctor Saren
Speaker 2: sent me, because y'all send five things after you have
Speaker 2: the test. It's to images of your coronary heart arteries,
Speaker 2: your heartflow analysis of the arteries.
Speaker 1: Right, what is that exactly?
Speaker 11: So the heartflow analysis is if there is any plaque
Speaker 11: in the artery, it's a Heartflow is a company based
Speaker 11: in California that has proprietary AI software that can actually
Speaker 11: assess the flow to determine if that plaque, that blockage
Speaker 11: is obstructive needs to be treated with a stent or bypassed,
Speaker 11: or non obstructive needs aggressive medical therapy. It's amazing software.
Speaker 11: We use it on all our patients. And it's that alone,
Speaker 11: that software alone has been proven to make you to
Speaker 11: reduce mortality, increases survival by having.
Speaker 1: The sore and hearts scan with heartflow.
Speaker 2: And so y'all and y'all send the soaring heart scan
Speaker 2: final report, you send your blood work report. And finally,
Speaker 2: which I really loved, the ten year risk of cardiovascular
Speaker 2: events which is heart attack, stroke of death. Now this
Speaker 2: is what put my mind at ease. Overall, your results
Speaker 2: are excellent. Despite a high calcium score for your age,
Speaker 2: there's only minimal plaque in your heart arteries.
Speaker 1: Furthermore, your lipid cholesterol profile, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Your cholesterol profile is excellent and well below goal on
Speaker 2: your current statum medication and aspirin, which I would continue.
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred five five one five one to join in
Speaker 3: to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8: Morning Everybody, It's DJ NV Charlamagne the gud we are
Speaker 8: the Breakfast Club of course just hilarious is here and
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Speaker 1: She says, not based on the true story though you just.
Speaker 2: Him, Yes, we are Jesus.
Speaker 1: So the question is she's almost going into the bushes.
Speaker 7: So if your baby daddy and your boyfriend is fighting,
Speaker 7: who do you help?
Speaker 4: And do you feel bad?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: You said you're helping your baby daddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to said.
Speaker 1: Because you can't fight.
Speaker 4: Yes, Damn, Rome is my guy, like I have to
Speaker 4: help him now.
Speaker 2: Byre gonna feel about this when he hears this later.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Lord, have mercy, Just you're making your
Speaker 2: life difficult.
Speaker 7: For no, because no, y'all turned the question back on me.
Speaker 4: This is for them out there.
Speaker 1: You don't have to answer.
Speaker 6: You gonna let it go.
Speaker 1: My god, who you're helping? If your boyfriend and baby
Speaker 1: daddy fighting?
Speaker 6: And John hypothetically, man.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 10: Who you.
Speaker 1: Let Hey? John? Good morning?
Speaker 8: Now John, If you're your baby daddy and your boyfriend
Speaker 8: started fighting, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 14: I don't have a baby daddy.
Speaker 13: I had a baby, mama, and uh, my girl was
Speaker 13: fighting and I helped that my girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you out with your girl?
Speaker 1: They said it happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well them, Jeff, what that baby?
Speaker 4: How you doing? You said you're helping you? You helped
Speaker 4: your girl.
Speaker 14: I didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't help my girl, but I let her get
Speaker 9: her left.
Speaker 1: I think you should help who? Uh whoo?
Speaker 13: Who?
Speaker 2: Who loves your child? I think you should help who
Speaker 2: your child would want you to help. Yeah, and by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't think you gotta help any You
Speaker 2: just don't let them fight.
Speaker 1: You get in between them. Like yo, y'all ain't fighting.
Speaker 1: So who would you have shelman?
Speaker 2: I would if if they needed help, I would help
Speaker 2: the person. I know my child would want me to help.
Speaker 2: I would help the person. If my child was standing there,
Speaker 2: my child would try to interview.
Speaker 4: No, come on, come on with my child standing there.
Speaker 7: No, because you nobody gonna be fighting in front of chaild.
Speaker 7: No now, And they pulled up. If your boyfriend and
Speaker 7: your baby father got into it, who are you out?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Who are you grabbing first?
Speaker 1: Between both of them?
Speaker 4: You get in between but wow, whoa No, don't ever
Speaker 4: get him between them?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I'm breaking.
Speaker 2: Them up, But it just depends I would just stopover
Speaker 2: getting the asking whoever getting a cool put them off
Speaker 2: from or.
Speaker 7: Something right right, Because to be honest with you know,
Speaker 7: I would help Rome, but Rome would be the reason
Speaker 7: to fight.
Speaker 4: It happened because Rome antagonizes.
Speaker 7: Chris is not going to he just going he's gonna fight,
Speaker 7: but Rome is gonna start it.
Speaker 4: But I still have to help because Rome has this.
Speaker 2: And I think, I mean, mouf, I think when we
Speaker 2: mean help, we don't mean we're not helping to fight.
Speaker 2: We just gonna break it up, right, that's what.
Speaker 8: You Because if you help your if you help your
Speaker 8: baby daddy or your baby mama, you still gotta go
Speaker 8: home with your boyfriend and girl for later on.
Speaker 6: And then they're gonna say, you know what, why why
Speaker 6: you punch me too?
Speaker 2: Or it's just a boyfriend and girlfriend. That's all y'all said,
Speaker 2: boyfriend and girlfriend? How serious is it?
Speaker 4: I'm just as he keeps trying to change the story.
Speaker 9: Hello club, now.
Speaker 6: Jack, Jack, what you do?
Speaker 9: I'm fighting, I'm kicking it off.
Speaker 1: You owe me shock support?
Speaker 4: We fighting, dang, I know that's right, Okay.
Speaker 10: And then I'm going back.
Speaker 15: I'm going back home to my baby, and I'm being like, Yo, did.
Speaker 9: You hear what happens to your Daddy's tragic?
Speaker 2: But I started it. I'm fighting Jesus you know about
Speaker 2: this man?
Speaker 1: A lot of these women want their boyfriends to beat
Speaker 1: up baby.
Speaker 4: It sounds like yeah, yeah, definitely, Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Christian text me, Hey, good morning baby, good morning.
Speaker 6: Here, good morning, good morning morning.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good darmer peez, what's happening?
Speaker 15: What's happening?
Speaker 6: Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight?
Speaker 1: Who you helping?
Speaker 15: I'm jumping my baby daddy is all about the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 15: any time. I got to deal with my baby daddy
Speaker 15: for the rest of my life. Okay, we're jumping at anything.
Speaker 4: Do you like your boy you want them? Do you
Speaker 4: like your boyfriend?
Speaker 15: It's only the baby daddy for me. That's why I
Speaker 15: got to deal.
Speaker 6: With Okay, calm in.
Speaker 4: Good morning.
Speaker 6: How you feeling.
Speaker 15: I'm feeling pretty good. Now.
Speaker 6: Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight.
Speaker 1: Who you helping?
Speaker 15: I gotta I gotta fight both of them.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna We're gonna bunch.
Speaker 6: You're gonna punch both of them.
Speaker 16: Yes.
Speaker 15: For so I'm gonna help my baby daddy because you know,
Speaker 15: we got kids, you know what I'm saying. But then
Speaker 15: I'm gonna help my man because that's my man, everybody,
Speaker 15: and figure out the details later, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you just hitting both of them at.
Speaker 15: This point, because why y'all even got me in this situation?
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
Speaker 16: Hey?
Speaker 4: What's up this?
Speaker 14: Crystal?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 6: Crystal, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 8: You know we're having an intellectually calm, intellectual conversation about
Speaker 8: baby daddy and boyfriends?
Speaker 6: Which one you help it if they fight?
Speaker 15: Okay? So I'm gonna be honest, it gotta be. It's
Speaker 15: two things. It's how long I been with this my boyfriend,
Speaker 15: and who started Now me personally, I got a petty
Speaker 15: baby daddy. I got petty baby daddy and me my
Speaker 15: my guy. I've been with him for three and a
Speaker 15: half years. So he's not I don't know, drama stuff,
Speaker 15: no messy stuff, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 15: a just on my baby daddy started it. So I'm
Speaker 15: gonna side with my because we don't we don't do
Speaker 15: that drama with his baby mama, my baby day. We
Speaker 15: don't do that, so I just a frips. Don't know
Speaker 15: what's my baby daddy, So I'm sided with my always.
Speaker 10: All right.
Speaker 2: It feels like the baby daddy is more permanent in
Speaker 2: your life than a boyfriend, though, because you don't know
Speaker 2: unless that boyfriend proposes, becomes your becomes your husband.
Speaker 1: It feel like the baby daddy is who you should
Speaker 1: really be.
Speaker 4: But like she said, it, yeah, like it just depends
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 7: The only reason I'm helping Room is because I cannot
Speaker 7: see him get beat up, not because because of the kids,
Speaker 7: because as gonna be like, Dad, you knew you couldn't fight,
Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's not that why doing that? But but seriously, you're
Speaker 1: gonna make.
Speaker 8: Room slap something tomorrow, Like you're gonna go ou He's
Speaker 8: just gonna slap somebody.
Speaker 6: Just difficult. You say he can't fight, and you will
Speaker 6: get messed up.
Speaker 2: Dam calls problems in Baltimore all day years say you
Speaker 2: can't fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not her breakfast.
Speaker 1: She said, you can't fight.
Speaker 7: We do not somebody thank you.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, your baby daddy and your boyfriend fighting.
Speaker 1: Who you helping?
Speaker 6: I would watch everything and reported, Oh, so you're gonna
Speaker 6: sit back and world start boom.
Speaker 15: Yup, world star all day, scream yell, eat some popcorn
Speaker 15: at the same time.
Speaker 4: Who would you want to win?
Speaker 15: Honestly, my boyfriend, baby daddy.
Speaker 6: Got no love.
Speaker 4: That's right, baby daddy needs it.
Speaker 6: Girl, I know that's right.
Speaker 5: What's the moral of the story.
Speaker 1: If there's a moral of the story, yes.
Speaker 7: Don't jump in, don't jump in, the moral of the
Speaker 7: stories they shouldn't be fighting.
Speaker 4: That they shouldn't be fighting. And if they do, do
Speaker 4: not just call the police.
Speaker 6: Call the police, not even want to both get locked up.
Speaker 1: One might have a warrant.
Speaker 6: Now they get now they get arrested.
Speaker 7: You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just
Speaker 7: don't fight. But I don't think the woman should jump in.
Speaker 7: Don't help even if you up.
Speaker 1: I can't fight.
Speaker 4: No, don't jump in.
Speaker 6: You keep saying that man, no, because I seen who
Speaker 6: came late.
Speaker 4: I'd be grown up before. Yes, and in the younger days.
Speaker 1: But he didn't get you back.
Speaker 7: I'm sure yes, going at it is man room used
Speaker 7: to get damn with the get down. I told you he
Speaker 7: was cheating on me before you met me so Yeah,
Speaker 7: that that's that.
Speaker 2: Just explained creative. You're trying to fight back and you're
Speaker 2: getting beat up.
Speaker 4: Yes, like real big, like wrong, you can't pick me up.
Speaker 1: That ain't funny, but it's funny.
Speaker 4: It's like when we have pictures. I'm an interview him.
Speaker 4: We gonna interview him. Let's go and you're gonna see
Speaker 4: my god man tell you the truth.
Speaker 7: Yes, she beat me up a couple of times, but
Speaker 7: a couple of times because I let her put me
Speaker 7: in a headline one time.
Speaker 1: Maybe tap out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's small, real little.
Speaker 1: Take that little.
Speaker 6: Now, sain't that little? She was big enough to put
Speaker 6: me in the headline right.
Speaker 1: Than what she is? He is little? She ain't that little?
Speaker 1: Yes she is.
Speaker 6: Actually, I don't move.
Speaker 8: It's to the breakfast lug aboard it the breakfast Club.
Speaker 6: Morning, everybody in stej n V.
Speaker 8: Charlamagne to God. We are the breakfast Club. We have
Speaker 8: Laura Luosa our guest host. And we got a special
Speaker 8: guest in the building, ladies, Kerry Washington.
Speaker 1: That's right, welcome Washington.
Speaker 8: Book out Thicker than Water. Congratulations, learned so much about you,
Speaker 8: uh with this book. First, Maybe it's just me being stupid.
Speaker 8: I didn't know you were from the Bronx.
Speaker 4: Really, I did not know that. I didn't know you
Speaker 4: were from the bron born and raised.
Speaker 1: You know what I say?
Speaker 2: I say, the craziest people in America come from the
Speaker 2: Bronx and all of Florida.
Speaker 19: Why what why I agree on Florida, but why the Bronx.
Speaker 4: One of the most talented people that come from the Bronx.
Speaker 2: That is very true too. Now, how did you know
Speaker 2: now the time to write, dickn It was so.
Speaker 19: What I write about in the book is that a
Speaker 19: handful of like five years ago, my parents sat me
Speaker 19: down and shared with me some new information about myself
Speaker 19: that really kind of challenged the way that I thought
Speaker 19: about myself, that I thought about my family, turned my
Speaker 19: world upside down. And at the time, I had actually
Speaker 19: sold another book, Idea, which was based kind of inspired
Speaker 19: by the show that I was on, Scandal, and it
Speaker 19: was like, these are the ten things that I learned
Speaker 19: from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down to
Speaker 19: write that book, all I could think about was this
Speaker 19: new information I'd been given and how it impacted my
Speaker 19: family and my sense of self. And so I wasn't
Speaker 19: going to write a book at all. I tried to
Speaker 19: give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 19: And then a few years later I was like, I
Speaker 19: think I have to at least try to write this.
Speaker 1: Book because you said your parents didn't want you to
Speaker 1: reveal benefit. Yeah.
Speaker 19: Yeah, So my parents told me that they were sort
Speaker 19: of forced to tell me that my dad is not
Speaker 19: my biological father.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: How did that affect you? Because I mean, he still
Speaker 8: your dad at the end of the day. We've seen
Speaker 8: the picture you know, had.
Speaker 4: Had chokes on Instagram?
Speaker 8: Yea, yeah, yeah, So how did that affect anything after
Speaker 8: you were told?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 19: I think immediately when they told me it was weird,
Speaker 19: to be totally honest with you, I felt like excited.
Speaker 19: I felt excited and grateful because I had always felt
Speaker 19: like there was something going on in my family that
Speaker 19: I couldn't put my finger on. But it was like
Speaker 19: a dynamic of distance or like there was I just.
Speaker 4: Knew that I didn't know what.
Speaker 19: I didn't know, but I knew that that there was
Speaker 19: something between my parents and I, And because I didn't
Speaker 19: know what it was, a lot of times I blamed
Speaker 19: myself for that, or maybe thought I was crazy for
Speaker 19: thinking it. Maybe thought maybe I'm just not open enough,
Speaker 19: like I was always trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: So when they.
Speaker 19: Told me, it felt like, I don't know, it felt
Speaker 19: like I could breathe. It felt like, oh, this is
Speaker 19: this is a real opportunity for me to jump into
Speaker 19: this new kind of understanding of myself and my life.
Speaker 4: And you know, it was really exciting.
Speaker 17: When you would ask questions about like just different things, like, hey,
Speaker 17: you go to the doctors and they say, you know
Speaker 17: what illnesses are on your mom, So your dad, you
Speaker 17: would ask your dad your mom those questions?
Speaker 19: How would they answer it? As if my dad was
Speaker 19: my father? They were going to take this to their grave,
Speaker 19: And I get it. I totally understand, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 19: I think they they felt like, well, first of all,
Speaker 19: let me just say this, my parents are renegades, right,
Speaker 19: Like a lot of us now we know people who
Speaker 19: go to sperm donor sperm banks. Right, It's like very
Speaker 19: common relatively now, and you get a whole catalog. You
Speaker 19: can pick the color of the eyes and what Ivy
Speaker 19: League university they went to. But when my parents did
Speaker 19: this in the mid seventies, nobody was doing this this
Speaker 19: was highly experimental, highly secretive. It was a big risk
Speaker 19: they were taking. It wasn't like they had complete health
Speaker 19: screenings for the donor. They had no idea who the
Speaker 19: donor was. They said, we asked two things. Let them
Speaker 19: be healthy. Who knows what that means at the time, right,
Speaker 19: but like we want them to be healthy, and we
Speaker 19: want them to be black.
Speaker 4: Because they wanted this to be a secret.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, you know, you talk about your eating disorder
Speaker 8: and dealing with how you felt about your body and
Speaker 8: your looks.
Speaker 6: I wanted to know what got you in that point.
Speaker 6: And the reason I ask is I have four daughters.
Speaker 8: Charlemagne has four daughters, and I always want to make
Speaker 8: sure I try my hardest to give my daughter as
Speaker 8: many compliments as possible, right, because you never want them
Speaker 8: to feel that way.
Speaker 6: But sometimes I don't think that matters because it's.
Speaker 1: Also how they look at themselves.
Speaker 8: So what got you to that point where you didn't
Speaker 8: like what you've seen in a mirror or something that
Speaker 8: you weren't happy about.
Speaker 19: It's such a good question. I have daughters too, right,
Speaker 19: So it's something that I think about a lot. I
Speaker 19: think that the food, it's like any other kind of
Speaker 19: addictive behavior. It's not about the drug, it's not really
Speaker 19: about the food or even really about the relationship with body.
Speaker 4: Came out from a compulsion.
Speaker 19: Of trying to escape the feelings I was having or
Speaker 19: numb them. And so I think for me, it was
Speaker 19: this sense that I write about in the book of
Speaker 19: feeling like I had to be perfect, like I had
Speaker 19: to be better.
Speaker 4: Than who I was, in order to be deserving of love.
Speaker 19: And some of that came from like what why do
Speaker 19: I have this weird dynamic with my parents?
Speaker 4: Like what's going on?
Speaker 19: Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I
Speaker 19: might be more lovable.
Speaker 4: So I don't even you know.
Speaker 19: I mean, I do think it's important to teach our
Speaker 19: kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise,
Speaker 19: to make healthy choices when it comes to food, to
Speaker 19: teach them about nutrition, about how food works in the body.
Speaker 4: All that's important.
Speaker 19: But I think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved,
Speaker 19: to feel safe, those are the things that I think
Speaker 19: help us have the tools to live in life on
Speaker 19: life's terms, as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors to
Speaker 19: escape life.
Speaker 2: Now I'm jumping all around because I want people to
Speaker 2: read the book Thinking of Water. But you talked about,
Speaker 2: you know, always grabbing for perfection. Yeah, but you said,
Speaker 2: Jamie Fox thought you a very valuable lesson.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you explain what that was?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Jamie. I mean, I've been really lucky.
Speaker 19: I've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on
Speaker 19: Ray and Janego Unchained.
Speaker 1: Classics by the way.
Speaker 19: Yeah, truly, he's He's the best. And Jamie's taught me
Speaker 19: a lot about a lot of things. But one of
Speaker 19: the things is in my work as an actor, to
Speaker 19: you have to let go of that perfection idea.
Speaker 4: Because we were doing a scene together in Ray.
Speaker 19: It was the scene where I find speaking of drugs,
Speaker 19: where I find all his heroin works the first time
Speaker 19: as his wife, and you know, we had done it
Speaker 19: in the morning. We had hit it out of the
Speaker 19: park and I was like, oh, we are on fire.
Speaker 4: This is incredible.
Speaker 19: And then as the day went on, I kept trying
Speaker 19: to do it exactly the way we had done it
Speaker 19: earlier that morning, so that it would be in that
Speaker 19: perfect place that felt so good. And that's the beginning
Speaker 19: of death. As an actor, like you, you can't try
Speaker 19: to recreate magic. You have to keep cultivating new magic, right, Like,
Speaker 19: you have to truly be in the moment. And Jamie
Speaker 19: really helped me to realize I was frustrated in the scene,
Speaker 19: and he was like, you got to you gotta keep digging,
Speaker 19: you gotta let go of this morning. And that was
Speaker 19: a really powerful lesson.
Speaker 2: Why was it easier to find that in acting as
Speaker 2: opposed to real life?
Speaker 19: Well, I guess I hadn't learned how to apply that
Speaker 19: to the rest of my world. You know, there was
Speaker 19: like it was in a vacuum, was isolated kind of moment.
Speaker 4: But it's a good question.
Speaker 19: I mean, that is the lesson though, right is that,
Speaker 19: like the answer is never about perfection, It's always about like,
Speaker 19: what's the best possible version of my life in this
Speaker 19: moment of me in this moment.
Speaker 8: Now, you did say something I heard you say that
Speaker 8: parents do the best that they can and then it's
Speaker 8: up to us to parent ourselves after that.
Speaker 19: Explain that, well, I think like one of the things
Speaker 19: that I've truly come to terms with in writing this
Speaker 19: book is that my every choice my parents made was
Speaker 19: out of love. They weren't trying to be cruel. They
Speaker 19: weren't trying to hurt me. They really thought that this
Speaker 19: was the best choice. And by the way doctors back
Speaker 19: then said it, artificial examination was so new. They would say,
Speaker 19: do this thing and then you go home and have sex,
Speaker 19: and then you have plausible deniability. And nobody knew forty
Speaker 19: years ago there would be these home tests twenty three
Speaker 19: in ancestry.
Speaker 4: You had no idea. So they were like, go home
Speaker 4: and have sex.
Speaker 19: Then the kid's yours, end of story, nothing to talk about, right,
Speaker 19: And so I think my parents didn't want me to
Speaker 19: feel different.
Speaker 4: They didn't want me to feel weird.
Speaker 19: They didn't want me ironically, they didn't want me to
Speaker 19: feel distance from them, even though that's what wound up happening.
Speaker 19: So I know that they made loving choices or choices
Speaker 19: out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me.
Speaker 4: But I think we have to for me and my journey.
Speaker 19: It's been like it's been good to understand who they were,
Speaker 19: to have compassion for their choices. But I can't blame
Speaker 19: them for where I am now, Like now that I
Speaker 19: have awareness, I have to say, like, Okay, they gave
Speaker 19: me everything they could with as much love as they could.
Speaker 19: How do I now close the gap between what they
Speaker 19: gave me and what I need. That's my responsibility as
Speaker 19: an adult. If I just sit here and continue to
Speaker 19: complain about what they didn't give me, that I'm keeping
Speaker 19: myself a child.
Speaker 6: Hi, we got more with Kerrie Washington. When we come back,
Speaker 6: don't move.
Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Good morning Borning.
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Speaker 20: What's the conversation like with your kids?
Speaker 17: Like once you decided to take this world to your
Speaker 17: kids and even deciding to write the book, and now
Speaker 17: you're you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends
Speaker 17: and everybody knows who you are, So how do you
Speaker 17: have that conversation with them and kind of how are
Speaker 17: they responding to things?
Speaker 19: You know, It's funny, like I was saying before, this
Speaker 19: is so common now, like it's not news to my kids.
Speaker 19: They were so unimpressed, Like you know, they're in their classes.
Speaker 19: They have kids with two dads and two moms, so
Speaker 19: they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors,
Speaker 19: friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates.
Speaker 4: Like they also like we're a.
Speaker 19: Blended family, right, They're big sister, you know when we
Speaker 19: look at the three of them, their big sister has
Speaker 19: four parents. Like having me having another parental figure in
Speaker 19: my story, it's not weird to them. For my parents,
Speaker 19: they came from a world where what makes a family
Speaker 19: was very different, but the ideas of what makes a
Speaker 19: family now is much more open. So you know, they
Speaker 19: they know obviously the conversation I have with my seventeen
Speaker 19: year old is very different than the conversation I have
Speaker 19: with my six year old, right, But I want to
Speaker 19: be a home where we're open and honest and where
Speaker 19: they feel like they can ask anything.
Speaker 17: What about when you decided to because I know in
Speaker 17: this book you talk about the abortion that you had
Speaker 17: at twenty. Yeah, that is something that is like in
Speaker 17: your twentieth But I mean it's around Saved the Last
Speaker 17: Dance time, right, so you were, you know, highly successful
Speaker 17: at this time.
Speaker 4: I know. But it's in a chapter that I call
Speaker 4: black famous because I was.
Speaker 19: I mean, you know how we are like white people
Speaker 19: didn't necessarily know that the girl from Saved the last
Speaker 19: dance was the same girl from Ray was the same
Speaker 19: girl from Last Kame of Scotland. So we knew, I,
Speaker 19: you know, but so yes, I was my star was
Speaker 19: on the rise.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't. I wasn't like I could still go
Speaker 4: to the grocery store and it was all good.
Speaker 1: I love yourself awareness. Did you realize you.
Speaker 2: Were black famous when you were black famous or with
Speaker 2: that in hindsight, No.
Speaker 4: In the moment, because I knew, you know.
Speaker 19: It was like I knew I could walk down the
Speaker 19: street on fifty seventh in Madison and be fine, but
Speaker 19: if I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh
Speaker 19: my god. Or like at the time, I was a
Speaker 19: substitute teacher in New York City public schools. That was
Speaker 19: one of my many side hustles when I was trying
Speaker 19: to make a living as an actor. And it was
Speaker 19: funny because I would get hired into the school and
Speaker 19: the principals who were white, you know, the principal's vice principals,
Speaker 19: they would be like, so nice to meet you.
Speaker 4: Great, they bring me to the classroom. They had no
Speaker 4: idea who I was.
Speaker 19: But then I would be asked to leave a school
Speaker 19: because By the second day, all the kids were cutting
Speaker 19: class to see Chaneil from Save the Last Dance because
Speaker 19: they knew who I was because I was substitute teaching
Speaker 19: in Harlem. So it was like that dynamic. I understood
Speaker 19: that certain people knew who I was and other people didn't.
Speaker 1: What's more fulfilling being black famous or white famous.
Speaker 19: I think you have to have both. That was one
Speaker 19: of the things that that Chris rocked, like, you can
Speaker 19: never ever forget your core original first audience. You cannot
Speaker 19: because that other audience will come and go, they'll be
Speaker 19: ebbs and flows. But black people will hold you up throughout.
Speaker 19: If you stay with us, we stay with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what made Scandal Is such a hit.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 19: I mean, we were part of the birth of black
Speaker 19: Twitter at the time. So I one of my best
Speaker 19: friends from high school. She's a brilliant social media person,
Speaker 19: Alison Peters. She actually convinced me to go on Twitter
Speaker 19: and I was like, what why, I don't know, and
Speaker 19: she was like she had come out of viacom and
Speaker 19: was like, it's really important, you need to do this.
Speaker 19: And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into
Speaker 19: talking the cast into being on Twitter, and we were
Speaker 19: one of the first shows to do live tweeting and
Speaker 19: to really have event television at a time where people
Speaker 19: were no longer watching shows in real time unless it
Speaker 19: was like a basketball game. And so that conversation around
Speaker 19: the show was our grassroots movement, Like we had black
Speaker 19: Twitter on fire. People like Oprah eventually were like, I
Speaker 19: only started watching Scandal because it's the only thing people
Speaker 19: talked about on Thursday nights on Twitter.
Speaker 4: So yes, in.
Speaker 19: That first season, it was absolutely because black audiences. You
Speaker 19: know how culture follows us, so black audiences made it
Speaker 19: that you had to be there to tune in, and
Speaker 19: suddenly it trickled out into the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Often do people come up to you to streak.
Speaker 19: All the time, all the time and to be honest
Speaker 19: because the show was inspired by a real woman, Judy Smith,
Speaker 19: who's a real DC fixer who never slept with the president,
Speaker 19: but was a real fixer. And I have her on
Speaker 19: speed dial, so people also will come to me to
Speaker 19: get to her.
Speaker 4: Because they know she is truly able to fix down.
Speaker 19: Have you needed I haven't needed her, but I've sent
Speaker 19: other people to her. Yes, but I've talked to her.
Speaker 19: I mean, like not on Like I'm in jail. It's
Speaker 19: two Am helped me out. But like, you know, if
Speaker 19: there's a rollout of a movie and I'm like, I
Speaker 19: don't know, Oh, this directory is a little bit of
Speaker 19: a problem. What do you think you know I've done.
Speaker 19: I've had those kind of conversations with her. Yeah, but people,
Speaker 19: do you know? It's funny, like it'll happen in political moments.
Speaker 19: Like a lot of my political work now is inspired
Speaker 19: by the fact that in twenty sixteen, the morning after
Speaker 19: the election, when that awful, rapist, racist person was elected,
Speaker 19: that when I woke up all over social media people
Speaker 19: were like, you have.
Speaker 20: To save us.
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? Please Olivia Pope?
Speaker 19: And it was funny for a minute, and then I
Speaker 19: was like, we have a real problem in our culture
Speaker 19: because we don't realize that Olivia Pope is an imaginary
Speaker 19: character on a television show, and that every single person
Speaker 19: who wrote one of those tweets they have more power
Speaker 19: than Olivia Pope because she can't vote, she can't register voters,
Speaker 19: she can't volunteer, she can't knock on doors. But it's
Speaker 19: like we've given our power over to imaginary people because
Speaker 19: we have this hero worship, right, So we're not stepping
Speaker 19: into our power because we're looking for somebody else to
Speaker 19: solve our problems for us.
Speaker 4: So a lot of the work.
Speaker 19: That I've been doing has been trying to figure out
Speaker 19: how to turn the spotlight that's on me onto those
Speaker 19: grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work.
Speaker 1: But when people saw you with the Vice President the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's back, she's the White House. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to ask a more question about your father.
Speaker 2: How did finding out your father wasn't your biological father
Speaker 2: changed your views on parenthood? Oh?
Speaker 19: Man, Well, one thing I say in the book is,
Speaker 19: and it's what I feel, is that in our community,
Speaker 19: where people have historically had such difficult relationships, right where
Speaker 19: there's this history of dad's maybe not being present, you know,
Speaker 19: in the neighborhood that I grew up in, I grew
Speaker 19: up in one of the few households where the dad
Speaker 19: was around, and you know, my parents were still married.
Speaker 19: And the fact looking back that that my dad really
Speaker 19: did choose me, that he was there, He's been there
Speaker 19: for me the whole time that he's been this you know,
Speaker 19: parental force in my life, that he's my dad, that
Speaker 19: he chose me, that I belonged to him and he
Speaker 19: belongs to me. It almost meant more than it ever
Speaker 19: did before. And I feel really grateful.
Speaker 6: You know now you contemplated suicide at one point, Yeah,
Speaker 6: what got you there? First of all? And then how
Speaker 6: did you get through it?
Speaker 8: Because I'm sure there's people listening now that might be
Speaker 8: in that same zone and trying to work themselves through
Speaker 8: it every day. So what got you to that point
Speaker 8: where you felt that way? And then how did you
Speaker 8: get over that obstacle?
Speaker 19: When you say there might be people listening who feel
Speaker 19: that way, it's like my heart breaks because I just
Speaker 19: know how hard it is to feel that alone and
Speaker 19: that hopeless. So if anybody's listening and is feeling that way,
Speaker 19: the one thing I would say is to ask for help,
Speaker 19: you know, is to really ask for help because you
Speaker 19: are you feel alone, but I guarantee you you are
Speaker 19: not alone. And for me, that was the big thing
Speaker 19: was I mean number one was the first time that
Speaker 19: I truly got on my knees and talked to God
Speaker 19: and was like I need help, like I don't I
Speaker 19: because I felt like I really don't have any tools.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what to do.
Speaker 19: So it was the first time that I think I
Speaker 19: humbled myself enough to feel like there's got to be
Speaker 19: something bigger than me that points me in the direction
Speaker 19: of healing, and I started reaching out. I went to
Speaker 19: therapy for the first time, group therapy, one on one,
Speaker 19: Like I just really started committing to trying to walk
Speaker 19: this road of healing.
Speaker 6: I swear by, Yeah, Hi, we got more with Kerry
Speaker 6: Washington when we come back, don't move.
Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8: Good morning, everybody's DJ Envy Charlemagne to God.
Speaker 6: We are to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 8: Our special guest co host Laura La Rosa is here
Speaker 8: and we're still kicking it with Carrie Washington.
Speaker 2: Charlemagne, did you're talking about traveling in the Black Famous chapter,
Speaker 2: you talk about going to Africa?
Speaker 1: Yeah, to become African? How did that trip change?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: I was filming Last King of Scotland.
Speaker 19: That was my first time on the continent and it
Speaker 19: was great because I do feel like sometimes as black
Speaker 19: people in America, we go to Africa with all these
Speaker 19: like do I belong here?
Speaker 4: Do I feel at home?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 19: What is my relationship here? And I just had to
Speaker 19: put all of that aside because my focus was on
Speaker 19: just kind of dropping in and becoming a Ugandan woman.
Speaker 19: And I I really did feel at home there.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 19: I felt so lucky to be able to be so
Speaker 19: immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like you know,
Speaker 19: as a tourist, and I took it when I was there.
Speaker 19: I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's
Speaker 19: not in the book, but we were hiking in the
Speaker 19: ruin Zori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda
Speaker 19: and Uganda, and it's where the only wild gorillas live.
Speaker 19: And you can go out with a gorilla trucker and
Speaker 19: find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them.
Speaker 19: You go with like a tour guide and these truckers
Speaker 19: and these guys with AK forty Seven's just in case
Speaker 19: if people travel from all over the world to have
Speaker 19: this experience, because it is one of the most intense
Speaker 19: spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my
Speaker 19: experience with the whales that are write about at the
Speaker 19: end to the book. But it was like to be
Speaker 19: in the jungle, to be with these creatures and you
Speaker 19: realize we really do share like ninety seven ninety eight
Speaker 19: percent of our DNA with these animals, and they are
Speaker 19: you start to think like, oh, they're so human, but no,
Speaker 19: like we are so gorilla. And the craziest thing that
Speaker 19: happened was when they give you this orientation in the morning.
Speaker 19: They're like, if a gorilla gets close to you and
Speaker 19: is looking at you, the most important thing to do
Speaker 19: is not run. You have to to feel safe, act
Speaker 19: like a gorilla.
Speaker 4: So I was like, waited, I was.
Speaker 19: Gonna say, I didn't hear it through that lens because
Speaker 19: for me, I was like a young actor who had
Speaker 19: done animal exercises at school, like this was my opportunity
Speaker 19: for this was my Meryl Street mode.
Speaker 11: Wow.
Speaker 17: So when the gorilla case from the tree, I was like,
Speaker 17: I squat down.
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody in my group was like, what is she?
Speaker 19: When I tell you that is the best performance of
Speaker 19: my life, I was.
Speaker 4: I was the gorilla, the gorilla was me.
Speaker 19: I started, I picked off a leaf, started chewing on it,
Speaker 19: and we had the most incredible experience because it's golla.
Speaker 19: Gorilla kept getting closer and closer to us, and this
Speaker 19: little baby gorilla, she was so curious, she was like, what,
Speaker 19: we've never seen a human like this.
Speaker 4: She was like, this one's one of us.
Speaker 16: But close.
Speaker 19: They just they got closer, the trekker said, than they'd
Speaker 19: ever had a gorilla get to a group before. I mean,
Speaker 19: the guy with the AK forty seven came right next
Speaker 19: to me because they were terrified.
Speaker 4: But I was like, don't stop, don't stop. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't tell you that just because.
Speaker 19: The experience that we got out of it. I mean
Speaker 19: they said it to everybody in the group, but I
Speaker 19: was the best actor in the Wow.
Speaker 17: Yeah, when all of this is done, like everybody gets
Speaker 17: the book, they get to read it.
Speaker 19: Everybody should get the book, read the audio book.
Speaker 4: It's me and my own words. So that's fun.
Speaker 17: What is the like, the the hug or the message
Speaker 17: that you want people to get from this book?
Speaker 19: I think, and this is something that I've written in
Speaker 19: the book, but there's a saying I heard a long
Speaker 19: time ago that I really love that we are as
Speaker 19: sick as our secrets. Sure, and that when I think,
Speaker 19: when we can let go of the things that keep
Speaker 19: our true selves hidden, we can let go of our shame.
Speaker 4: You know, I knew when my parents told me.
Speaker 19: I realized that they had been living under this lie
Speaker 19: for so long that every time I had said I
Speaker 19: love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious,
Speaker 19: there must have been a part of him that thought,
Speaker 19: she loves me because she thinks I am her father.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 19: And there must have been a part of him that thought,
Speaker 19: if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't
Speaker 19: love me. That's part of why they didn't tell me.
Speaker 19: And so I had the opportunity, once they gave me
Speaker 19: that truth, to actually, for the first time, love my
Speaker 19: father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve. That's what
Speaker 19: we all want. We want to know that, no matter
Speaker 19: what we do, or how we act, or what we've
Speaker 19: done in the past, that we're lovable and that we're loved.
Speaker 19: And I feel like my family's in that place now.
Speaker 19: But you only get there when you expose your truth,
Speaker 19: when you're vulnerable enough to show people who you are
Speaker 19: and they love you anyway, then you know that you
Speaker 19: are worthy of unconditional love.
Speaker 2: But I think your father proved that. You know, just
Speaker 2: because somebody provibes Ferm doesn't meet them. He's an actual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big essing to be learned. That's right,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 19: And it's even like people will say like, well, do
Speaker 19: you know who your biological father is? And I'm still
Speaker 19: wrapping my head honestly around that language.
Speaker 1: Like do you want to know who the donor is?
Speaker 20: I was literally about to do.
Speaker 4: I'm searching.
Speaker 19: I'm looking, and again not because I need a daddy,
Speaker 19: right Like, I'm not looking for an emotional connection. I'm
Speaker 19: really open. I mean I say that now, who knows?
Speaker 19: Once you never know, Like you could walk in the
Speaker 19: room and I can be like, ah, But I think
Speaker 19: I'm just really curious about that fifty percent of me,
Speaker 19: that genetic fifty percent of me.
Speaker 4: I think there is a question. I know what I've
Speaker 4: gotten from my dad.
Speaker 19: I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor,
Speaker 19: my imagination and my belief in the impossible, my ability
Speaker 19: to tell a story. I know what I've gotten from
Speaker 19: my mom, my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion.
Speaker 19: I don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm
Speaker 19: curious what part comes from him. And I'm curious just
Speaker 19: in terms of my medical history. I feel like I
Speaker 19: owe that to my kids that they should know where
Speaker 19: they come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm
Speaker 19: open to let it be what it's going to be.
Speaker 19: Maybe it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll
Speaker 19: just feel like I have additional information. I feel good
Speaker 19: either way.
Speaker 2: Can we with something you said in the epilogue and
Speaker 2: I feel like it can relate to so many people.
Speaker 2: You say, my life is not about my donor, nor
Speaker 2: about my parents. My life is my own. What does
Speaker 2: that mean to you? And what could that mean to others?
Speaker 19: Yeah, So when my parents told me this information, I realized,
Speaker 19: because they had built this narrative, this false narrative about
Speaker 19: where I came from, I realized that in many ways
Speaker 19: I had been the supporting care character in their story
Speaker 19: right like they were living this life. They were Earl
Speaker 19: and Valerie, parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class
Speaker 19: black family, like I was the supporting character in that fable.
Speaker 19: And when they gave me the truth, I felt like
Speaker 19: part of why I wanted to write the book was
Speaker 19: that it was time for me to step into being
Speaker 19: the lead character in the story of my life, to
Speaker 19: not let my life belong to them, to say, like
Speaker 19: I deserve to be on this journey, this quest because
Speaker 19: I have my own story. Like, I get it, you
Speaker 19: had four decades of living this your way. But it's
Speaker 19: my turn to kind of take this narrative and figure
Speaker 19: out what my life means for me. So I love
Speaker 19: my parents. I do love being a supporting character in
Speaker 19: their life, but that has to be a choice. I
Speaker 19: have to know that fundamentally my life is my own
Speaker 19: and that they Because I have the most incredible parents,
Speaker 19: they now have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to
Speaker 19: be supporting characters in my set. And a lot of
Speaker 19: what I've learned about parenting has been about that choice
Speaker 19: on their part, because they have allowed themselves to be
Speaker 19: supporting characters for me in this moment, which is humbling
Speaker 19: for all of us, with them in particular. Right and
Speaker 19: as I look forward at my kids, I realize this
Speaker 19: is my moment. Like this book, I am the protagonist
Speaker 19: of this book, but I'm also the supporting character in
Speaker 19: the story of my kids, and I want them to
Speaker 19: know that I have their back and that they have
Speaker 19: to live their own life. They shouldn't be living in
Speaker 19: the ways that make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making
Speaker 19: choices that are for my own good. They have to
Speaker 19: make the right choices for them in the way that
Speaker 19: I'm making the right choices for me.
Speaker 8: Now, well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, Thick,
Speaker 8: because when water is out right now, Yes.
Speaker 4: We'll come see us on tour. We're going to be
Speaker 4: in Chicago, DC, Atlanta, LA.
Speaker 19: I'm going to be in conversation with Gabrielle Union, Tyler Perry, Fellow, Me,
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Speaker 4: It's an incredible lineup. So come see us out on
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Speaker 2: Make sure you're telling them to watch out of Florida.
Speaker 2: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in
Speaker 2: all of Floridas.
Speaker 1: Yes, you are a donkey.
Speaker 21: The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.
Speaker 4: It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested
Speaker 4: after death.
Speaker 21: He says he rigs the Dolord to his home in
Speaker 21: an attempt to electric hid his pregnant White police.
Speaker 4: Arrested in Orlando.
Speaker 22: Man we're talking to Fromlida the breakfast club bench Donkey
Speaker 22: of the day with Charlam Hayne to Gud, I don't
Speaker 22: know why y'all keep you letting him get y'all like, well, do.
Speaker 2: All this your own people, Okay, donkey today goes the
Speaker 2: Renee don Scotland. I know I pronounced their last time. Okay,
Speaker 2: but Renee is from Florida, ladies and gettlemen. And what
Speaker 2: does your uncle Shala always say about the great state
Speaker 2: of Florida. The craziest people in America come from the
Speaker 2: Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Renee is thirty years old and she will spend two
Speaker 2: years under community control which is a form of house arrest,
Speaker 2: eight years on probation, and will have to pay a
Speaker 2: fine of more than seventeen grand And personally, I don't
Speaker 2: think that is enough. In fact, I think she should
Speaker 2: get actual prison time. Why Uncle Shawla, why are you
Speaker 2: wishing prison time on this woman.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Fox thirteen Tampa for the report. Please.
Speaker 21: South Dakota resident Rede Skogland is far from home and
Speaker 21: illegal hot water that even surprised the judge.
Speaker 4: This is really unbelievable.
Speaker 21: Skogland's trail of lies started well, she decided to come
Speaker 21: to Tampa Bay and cheat on her husband.
Speaker 19: That she felt guilty about this due to her marital status,
Speaker 19: and she wanted to get checked her sexual transmitted diseases, but.
Speaker 21: She wanted to get tested for free, so she decided
Speaker 21: to call nine on Cogland made up a story about
Speaker 21: having car trouble and pulling over on the side of
Speaker 21: the road.
Speaker 20: Owed an unknown milk approached her.
Speaker 21: Because her face was covered, she couldn't describe her attacker.
Speaker 21: When police checked her cell phone and found this Walmart
Speaker 21: surveillance video, Scogland find the rope herself. She confessed to
Speaker 21: making the whole thing up. She was charged with making
Speaker 21: a false police report and decided to take a plea deal.
Speaker 2: She not even from Florida. She from South Dakota, came
Speaker 2: to Florida and became a Florida fool. Because it was
Speaker 2: in the water all right, this woman made up a
Speaker 2: false rape report in Florida to get a free STD test.
Speaker 2: Let's just sit here for a second and take that
Speaker 2: in you, like my Paula Santo, Just think about.
Speaker 1: That Renee made up a false rape report.
Speaker 2: In Florida to get a free STD test.
Speaker 1: Huh believe all women? Huh define all?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what we should have asked when that foolish
Speaker 2: ass slogan became part of all lexicon.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by all?
Speaker 2: Because women like Renee can't possibly be under the umbrella
Speaker 2: all correct?
Speaker 1: I have so many questions. Why didn't she just go
Speaker 1: to the clinic? Okay?
Speaker 2: I did some research, and by research I mean Google,
Speaker 2: and all I did was type in free STD testing
Speaker 2: in Florida. It's a whole website called safe for STD
Speaker 2: testing dot com. It tells you all the clinics that
Speaker 2: are near you. It says right here if you're looking
Speaker 2: for cheap STD testing clinics in the state of Florida
Speaker 2: to get an HIV, herpes, committee, a gonnery, a syphilis,
Speaker 2: or a hepatitis screening for yourself or your partner, you can
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you just go to a free clinic? Now?
Speaker 2: Renee at the time was married and she lied about
Speaker 2: this sexual assault in attempt to get a free STD
Speaker 2: test after she had a one night stand in Tampa,
Speaker 2: so she cheated on her husband, felt guilty about it,
Speaker 2: so she decided to go get checked out for a
Speaker 2: STD and instead of just going to a doctor or clinic,
Speaker 2: she decided to lie about being a rape so she
Speaker 2: could get a free STD test.
Speaker 1: Renee, what was your plan? B? Okay?
Speaker 2: If that was plan A? What was planned B? This
Speaker 2: couldn't have been the only plan. Not to mention, you
Speaker 2: lied about a rape claim so you could get a
Speaker 2: free SDD test. So clearly you hard.
Speaker 1: On money, but you had money to buy rope.
Speaker 2: We looked it up. The hollow braided rope that she
Speaker 2: bought is twenty two dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: How much is an STD test in Florida? According to Google,
Speaker 2: the cost of STD tests will vary by location and
Speaker 2: test type. Some clinics, usually community or nonprofit clinics, are
Speaker 2: for free. Are low cost testing labs clinics and at
Speaker 2: home testing companies may accept insurance to cover a lower
Speaker 2: your cost of testing and lab testing fees ranged from
Speaker 2: eight dollars to one hundred and fifty dollars. You had
Speaker 2: money for an STD test, Okay, I saw other sources
Speaker 2: say that the STD test in Florida it's fifty five dollars.
Speaker 2: The test covered syphilis and HIV, commydia goneria. Herpe's test
Speaker 2: forty five dollars. All I'm saying is if you had
Speaker 2: money for ROPE, you could have gotten some money for
Speaker 2: STD test. Hell, you had money to travel from South
Speaker 2: Dakota to Tampa to Creep in the first place. Okay, Renee,
Speaker 2: what about condoms? But you too can get free from
Speaker 2: the clinic? All right, two words for you, Renee, planned parenthood.
Speaker 2: They can help you get condoms and other birth control
Speaker 2: methods for free. If that ware inflation is taking us
Speaker 2: now where people can't even afford to cheat, what happened
Speaker 2: to the good old day when you know you got
Speaker 2: an STD and blamed it on your significant other. We
Speaker 2: used to be a country. We are getting away from
Speaker 2: traditional values. Not to mention you, nasty, Renee, Not only
Speaker 2: are you a despicable human who would lie about being raped.
Speaker 2: You slept with your little side piece unprotected, bad back. Shimmy,
Speaker 2: shimmy yah, shimmy, Yeah, shimmy yan. You fought bad knuckle
Speaker 2: in the club and thought you lost. That's why you
Speaker 2: went to go get in that detest. Okay, lock this
Speaker 2: woman up, all right, put her under the jail. There's
Speaker 2: too many women out here who are real victims, who
Speaker 2: actually are dealing with the real trauma of being sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2: And you out here lying simply because you cheated on
Speaker 2: your husband and did the raw Dog.
Speaker 1: Roulette with another man.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 2: Please give Renee Dawn starglawn biggest sea haft.
Speaker 1: What a world we live in? Man?
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm wild.
Speaker 1: You want to play a game? I do? All right,
Speaker 1: Let's play a game of guess what race is?
Speaker 2: Don Goglawn from South Dakota traveled all the way to Temple, Florida,
Speaker 2: so she could do the raw Dog Roulette with a
Speaker 2: side piece. Thought she called an STD, so she lied
Speaker 2: about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Mona,
Speaker 2: guess what race is?
Speaker 4: She is a Caucasian from the Coffeest Mountain.
Speaker 1: One of your Coop's finest creations.
Speaker 2: Mona says, Jesus, okay, dj NB, well don't call me
Speaker 2: white girl. And dj NB, yes, sir, you're both correct.
Speaker 2: Renee is cau. She got made by y'all. Cool on
Speaker 2: her ass.
Speaker 1: She jesus right, what did I win? Nothing? Nothing? Anyway nothing.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast.
Speaker 6: Club owning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne, the gud. We
Speaker 6: are the Breakfast Club. Laura La Ross is our special guests,
Speaker 6: and we have Omar Epp said, but also ebonie K
Speaker 6: Williams will be joining us next hour, and we talked
Speaker 6: about some statements that she said, and Laura La Ross
Speaker 6: was talking about a lot of people were very passionate.
Speaker 8: So she's here to discuss. So if you want to
Speaker 8: talk to Ebonie K Williams, she's going to be joining us,
Speaker 8: you could get on the phone lines right now eight
Speaker 8: hundred five eight five, one oh five to one. But
Speaker 8: right now, let's get back into our conversation with Omar Epps.
Speaker 2: All right, Charlomagne, you know I love what you just
Speaker 2: said about the movies because I think about it even
Speaker 2: with a series like this, because I saw you said
Speaker 2: you wish this book existed when you were a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know when the series is going to end,
Speaker 2: but endings are very important because I think a lot
Speaker 2: of times in this art we talk about the problems,
Speaker 2: but we never talk about the solutions, and it never
Speaker 2: seems to be a happy ending.
Speaker 1: Whether it's Ben Into.
Speaker 2: Society, Boys in the Hood, whatever it was, Juice, there's
Speaker 2: really no happy ending.
Speaker 3: Well, I think maybe because they're trying to teach a
Speaker 3: certain lesson, a certain angle of the lesson, you know,
Speaker 3: and then that's making me think about certain songs where like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're not showing the glamorous part, they showing the other part,
Speaker 3: Like we used to seeing the rich and poles and
Speaker 3: all of them and all of that fly stuff, but
Speaker 3: they're not showing you the heartache that comes along.
Speaker 5: And so I think things are necessary.
Speaker 3: With Nubia, I do have the ending, but it also
Speaker 3: is an entry way into film, television, animation, everything you
Speaker 3: could think of.
Speaker 5: I have story points that we want to hit.
Speaker 3: So it's essentially I've created my own universe that hopefully
Speaker 3: one day can be akin to like Marvel.
Speaker 2: That's what pains me about the Nubia series, though, because
Speaker 2: I love science fiction and I do feel like it
Speaker 2: needs to be a film, a TV show. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Hollywood will ever make a real investment into
Speaker 2: Side far I led by black people.
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting on Hollywood. Okay.
Speaker 3: If I was waiting on Hollywood, the book would have
Speaker 3: never been written. Absolutely, So we're gonna We're gonna do
Speaker 3: what we do, which is find a way. You know, hey,
Speaker 3: we made a delicacy out of the scraps, meaning they
Speaker 3: threw us big intestines and we made.
Speaker 1: And we made them so good?
Speaker 4: Did you make me a plate?
Speaker 3: This is what we do, so hopefully it is in
Speaker 3: my lifetime. I mean, this is what I'm doing it for.
Speaker 3: But you know, there's when I say there's more of us,
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a color.
Speaker 1: I mean like minded. They're more like minded.
Speaker 3: People than what we see portrayed in the news and
Speaker 3: the blogs and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So when people put their money where their mouth is
Speaker 5: and really.
Speaker 3: Support one another, then it enables us to go to
Speaker 3: those next levels to where we don't have to be
Speaker 3: fully dependent on other systems.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 20: Now, the three main characters of the book, I don't
Speaker 20: want to say their names wrong and bery thank you.
Speaker 20: So they are of.
Speaker 17: This first generation to discover these powers. Yes, when I
Speaker 17: read about that part of it, it made me think
Speaker 17: about like just being first generation coming from certain like
Speaker 17: you know, like I'm first generation college student or whatever,
Speaker 17: and you realize that you really can be put in
Speaker 17: a dark room and find the light.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 20: What is the message in this book to.
Speaker 17: The first generation of anything, like the students, the kids,
Speaker 17: the you know, I'm first generation to go to college
Speaker 17: and first generation to buy a house.
Speaker 1: What messages millionaires?
Speaker 20: Yeah, like what do they take away from this from
Speaker 20: this book?
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of things that takes I
Speaker 3: think the one of the main themes for me is
Speaker 3: the idea of unity.
Speaker 5: You know, cats ull spend twenty.
Speaker 3: Five hundred dollars on a belt because it has a
Speaker 3: certain name on it. But if envy shirt kings or
Speaker 3: like food bing them back in the day, supreme in
Speaker 3: them back in the day, they say, Yo, the belts
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars, we like.
Speaker 4: From you your brand, Right, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna go spend triple over there, same quality, right, And
Speaker 3: then you elevate and you be like, oh, they make
Speaker 3: all of these bags and stuff in the same factories,
Speaker 3: same material, same everything. But because we're blinded by a name,
Speaker 3: which comes with a perception, we don't know how to
Speaker 3: stand for. I was like, no, we have the spending dollars,
Speaker 3: so we're gonna spend here. It really matters. And let
Speaker 3: as killer Mike's loop always talks about keeping a dollar
Speaker 3: circulating amongst us first before it goes out right. So
Speaker 3: the theme of unity on every level. And the other
Speaker 3: thing I really want the young reader to take away
Speaker 3: is all the answers are already inside of you. I
Speaker 3: think we're born into this world in perfect harmony and
Speaker 3: in perfect balance. Like if we look at the creation,
Speaker 3: the world as we know it, everything that's alive is
Speaker 3: like an instrument, and it's this magnificent symphony, and everything
Speaker 3: plays apart, from an aunt to an elephant to a tree.
Speaker 3: Everything plays apart. The only thing that seems to be
Speaker 3: playing out of tune is human beings. We're the ones
Speaker 3: playing out to playing the wrong notes. So I say
Speaker 3: that to say that the answers are already inside right,
Speaker 3: They already are permeating through you physiologically and spiritually. Part
Speaker 3: of the conundrum of life is to then you sort
Speaker 3: of unlearn what is innately in you product of environment
Speaker 3: schooling all of these things, and then you.
Speaker 5: Spend your latter life unlearning that to get back.
Speaker 1: To the source.
Speaker 3: So I imagine a world where right now college is a
Speaker 3: four year process. What if one day college is a
Speaker 3: year process. What could that person do with that other
Speaker 3: three years in terms of being productive? And if you
Speaker 3: put a bunch of those type of people together, I mean,
Speaker 3: we're still modeling over I don't know, Twitter and Facebook.
Speaker 5: It's like I ain't caring cancer though, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 5: What do we do in a world where like thailandov
Speaker 5: do you cancer? Nont matter what kind? Oh just go
Speaker 5: to pharmacy. That's fot dollars, ain't nothing.
Speaker 3: Imagine how much more productive we could be as a species.
Speaker 3: Like the fact that we're in twoenty twenty four and
Speaker 3: people still hung up on skin color. And again I
Speaker 3: don't mean white black, this is light skinned dolphins stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh that's some licenseduff. You know, Me and Moly did
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 5: And all the time you call.
Speaker 20: It here it is.
Speaker 4: His fault. And every time.
Speaker 16: Ever give you.
Speaker 8: Charlamage does the same thing, And I say his complexion.
Speaker 8: They attacked me, but he called me beige, rage, beige, beige,
Speaker 8: everything under the suns because of you.
Speaker 6: But if I say black anything to him, yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't do it.
Speaker 6: Why I'm black, but what you are black exactly? So
Speaker 6: what's the problem.
Speaker 1: But this is what I'm talking about, the.
Speaker 6: Fact that even a Dominican, I'm not Dominican.
Speaker 1: Stop it, better stop claim stop it. Charla Mane, I
Speaker 1: gotta s here.
Speaker 5: You look more Dominican than thank you. You've been to
Speaker 5: Washington Heights Lanting.
Speaker 2: What Omar said is so true, and it's amazing to
Speaker 2: me that most things that are man made take you
Speaker 2: out of alignment.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense though, right,
Speaker 3: it does make sense. That's why when people get caught
Speaker 3: up in this AI, I'm like, it's been made so
Speaker 3: the flaws in it, we just can't see it.
Speaker 1: Yet. It ain't nothing to trip over, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's about.
Speaker 3: Being in tune with who we are and who we're
Speaker 3: here to be and what is our purpose? And our
Speaker 3: purpose is to spread love and spread positive energy. And
Speaker 3: you get to a point where we all are we
Speaker 3: still have ambition, We still have drive, but we pushing.
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a thing to be pushing for
Speaker 3: yourself and then push for others. When you're pushing for others,
Speaker 3: now you're really serving your purpose. And it's a really
Speaker 3: it's a fulfillment that no dollar amount could fill. When
Speaker 3: just passing off the information or the knowledge to someone
Speaker 3: and then go and see them walk, run and then fly.
Speaker 3: It's just a feeling that to me, this is what
Speaker 3: life is about. One of the grand themes that life
Speaker 3: is about.
Speaker 1: Oh, I get the less I want.
Speaker 2: Here you go, you know, because things that I actually
Speaker 2: want money can't buy or not superficially, you go in
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 8: All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we
Speaker 8: come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast.
Speaker 8: Club, puting everybody. It's DJ n V, Charlamagne, the Gods.
Speaker 8: We are the Breakfast Club. We have Laura la Rossa here,
Speaker 8: our special guest host. Still kicking with Omar Epps. But
Speaker 8: you having three kids, would you want your three kids
Speaker 8: to be in the industry acting or music? Would you
Speaker 8: want them seeing what you've seen? Because you've seen behind
Speaker 8: the scenes, you pull the curtain back, So would you want.
Speaker 1: Them to do that?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm human, so I think whatever whatever it is,
Speaker 3: I don't care if you race car drive them Mechannon
Speaker 3: must drought like we all want our kids to do
Speaker 3: something other than what be great, Yeah, I mean, be
Speaker 3: great at that thing. But underneath it all, I just
Speaker 3: want them to follow their passion, you know, whatever brings
Speaker 3: them joy. If it's you know, our youngest daughter, she's
Speaker 3: a singer songwriter, that's her gift. But she's putting in
Speaker 3: the work for it. And that's the main thing. You know,
Speaker 3: nothing's gonna come to you easy. But if you putting
Speaker 3: in the work for it and that's your passion, I'm
Speaker 3: behind it.
Speaker 1: See. It's good.
Speaker 8: It's good in situations like that because mom and dad
Speaker 8: have been there, so you can guide where maybe you
Speaker 8: didn't have that guy because maybe your mom didn't know
Speaker 8: how to look at contracts and look know what to
Speaker 8: look for, you know. I mean, so it's good that
Speaker 8: you're there, but it's just, you know, it's it's a
Speaker 8: difficult thing because you're like, damn distressed that I went
Speaker 8: through dealing with this in the industry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, what you're saying is right
Speaker 3: in that sense, but realistically it's a totally different world
Speaker 3: because this is a completely different universe from selling a
Speaker 3: physical record to a stream and the business in between that. Correct,
Speaker 3: it's a whole different world. So it's like, yeah, your
Speaker 3: moms did that, but not like this is.
Speaker 20: She like, are you guys like managing?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Like you A mom's not right here.
Speaker 3: She's a heavy handed advisor. That's what's your.
Speaker 1: Favorite method of storytelling is the TV, the films, books.
Speaker 3: It depends on the story, you know, Like like when
Speaker 3: I was thinking of Nubia, I saw film, I saw television,
Speaker 3: I saw all these things, but I knew that's not
Speaker 3: the delivery system. Right now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to crawl through this process. Crawl and
Speaker 3: meaning a good thing. Like there's just so much story
Speaker 3: this that the depth of the story can only be
Speaker 3: done in book form in its initial phase. Once that's
Speaker 3: established to an audience and they're familiar with, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the blah blah blah, then we can take it
Speaker 3: other places. And so we're still in this is phase one,
Speaker 3: if you will. But other than that, I just love
Speaker 3: art man. It doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I
Speaker 3: think there's an art to cook, and there's an art
Speaker 3: to everything.
Speaker 5: There's a art to business.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It just depends on you know, what you connect to
Speaker 5: and what makes you happy.
Speaker 3: And for me, the prime goal is to is is
Speaker 3: like I've realized the weight of everything that I'm a
Speaker 3: part of is gonna outlast me. So why am I
Speaker 3: really doing this? Who am I doing it with? It's
Speaker 3: not just a self fulfilling thing anymore, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like the greatest compliments to this day, the
Speaker 3: greatest compliments that I received was when people come up
Speaker 3: to me and say something that I was.
Speaker 5: In, you know, helped them through or inspired them to
Speaker 5: I had a young.
Speaker 3: Doctor come up to me and was talking about a
Speaker 3: show that I was on, medical shows on and they
Speaker 3: were just like the portrayal of that character helped them
Speaker 3: through a tough time while they were in med school
Speaker 3: ready to give up. And to me, that was like
Speaker 3: getting a million dollar check because I'm like, this is
Speaker 3: exactly what I do it for, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like to be able to pass on what was passed
Speaker 1: on to me.
Speaker 2: I really didn't want to know how you wrap your
Speaker 2: mind around what's going on in twenty ninety eight.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's to me, it's simple.
Speaker 3: I think humans are going to human and then geographically
Speaker 3: like again, whatever happens in the next twenty thirty years.
Speaker 5: There's going to be a world after that. So that's
Speaker 5: creative license.
Speaker 3: Well it kind of looking at I mean, sadly, if
Speaker 3: we take a cue from what happened with Sandy, the
Speaker 3: lower part of the city would be underwater, and then
Speaker 3: same rules apply.
Speaker 1: Where's all the money at now uptown?
Speaker 5: All right, let's ramp that up a little bit.
Speaker 3: More humans are fused with technology. Let's you know, you
Speaker 3: get to take creative license.
Speaker 5: But the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like in the hood, everybody want to talk about new
Speaker 3: world or order. No, it's one world order. That's the
Speaker 3: actual term. And that's been for thousands of years. There's
Speaker 3: always going to be a group of few that try
Speaker 3: to control the many. It ain't nothing new. There's no conspiracy.
Speaker 3: It's right there, dead in front of your face. It's
Speaker 3: just how you perceive it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But there's something to perceive as well, is that the
Speaker 3: victory's already won, and whether the listeners, whether you're a
Speaker 3: believer or not. I'm not, you know, putting my beliefs
Speaker 3: on anyone. I'm a believer. And the victory's already won.
Speaker 3: The table of victory with the most beneficent is already set.
Speaker 3: So there's a part of us that we're gone through
Speaker 3: the motions. Choose your side, choose wisely, and live your life.
Speaker 3: And your character is.
Speaker 1: Determined by your actions period, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So you know, hopefully when it's my time, my actions
Speaker 3: will be met by the eternal glory.
Speaker 8: You play so many iconic roles, does it ever body
Speaker 8: with Somebody calls you wanted the names from the iconic role,
Speaker 8: like I'm.
Speaker 6: Sure you walk down the horns like you.
Speaker 1: I love it. No, no, no, that doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 5: I'm when people call me like yo, Mac, I'm like, that's.
Speaker 4: My man's and all that.
Speaker 22: But I know we look alike, they say, but come on,
Speaker 22: bron like Mike, Like Mike, that's correct.
Speaker 20: Well I'm like, come on, yo, Like that's the like,
Speaker 20: where is this happening?
Speaker 1: Like it's just random?
Speaker 3: Like sometimes I wonder if people are just It's like
Speaker 3: if someone saw you, and they're like.
Speaker 16: Oh, I know that.
Speaker 6: Somebody Marschner, but nobody have heard. Mars Chestner said that.
Speaker 5: You know what the chess and I said, somebody called
Speaker 5: him Charlamage on JENNI budget.
Speaker 1: So you said he gets mistaken for me?
Speaker 6: That's God, damn lie.
Speaker 20: Do you see tell me?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 20: Why are you upset if you signed Dominican in him?
Speaker 2: Do you see it?
Speaker 1: Knock it off? Definitely? Yeah. I gotta take him up
Speaker 1: to Washingtonians. Gotta go.
Speaker 2: Now we demate about who your favorite, who the best
Speaker 2: character was? I think your best role with Jay Reed
Speaker 2: and Too Deep. I think that's a very slept on roll.
Speaker 2: How about I haven't done it yet?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well there you have it. It's Omar.
Speaker 6: Absolutely appreciate you for joining us.
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