WEBVTT - The Breakfast Club REWIND (Kerry Washington Interview, Omar Epps Interview, Who Do You Help If Your Baby Daddy and Boyfriend Are Fighting? Dr. Joseph Puma Interview) 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:04.400 Way way white. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.440 You guys really are like the hip hop early morning 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:08.640 late night talk. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:13.080 To the Breakfast Club is the most powerful popular urban 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:17.040 radio show. Maybe like from the Black Mothership in New 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.880 York City, it's DJ MV and Charlemagne to God. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.319 It's different, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all know 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:22.119 what y'all talking about. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:23.400 Thanks, y'all be Black five. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:24.080 I love y'all. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.119 Collectively known as Breakfast Club. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.319 So I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.600 because sometimes you say stuff and it's just gonna get 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.199 you in trouble. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:37.960 Everybody, what wait, this is your time to get it 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.520 off your chest. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.560 She's calling eight hundred and five eighty five one O 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.320 five one. You want to hear from you on the 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.279 Breakfast Club? Hello? Who's this? 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:46.640 Jay? 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.360 Jay? 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:47.720 What up? 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:48.599 Where you calling them from? 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:48.840 Brother? 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:49.440 What's up? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:49.599 Man? 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.120 I'm calling from bloody Mississippi? 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:51.760 Jay? 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:52.120 What's up? 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:52.319 King? 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:53.480 Get it off your chest? Brother? 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:54.240 What's up? 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:54.520 Man? 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.000 I'm just calling as I drive truck for a living 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.840 and I'm still downtied of traffic, bro, traffic, it's just disrespectful. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.920 Oh there's a lot of traffic in Mississis. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.039 No I run the corridor that I corridor over New 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:11.880 Orleans and uh Houston as well. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.280 Oh yeah, yeah, you're going to major cities, New Orleans 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.840 and Houston. Ain't no jokes, I get it. Just be patient, man, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.600 and don't drive that truck like you're driving a car. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.520 I can't stand when people driving back trucks like they're 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.600 driving a little electric car or something, little hondai. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.319 Remember you've got a truck. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:25.800 I tried. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.000 I tried to drive for myself, for others as well 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:29.560 as myself. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:30.120 That's right. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.680 Okay, Well, Jay, do me a favor. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:33.280 What's that blow that had? 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:33.560 Jay? 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:33.959 Come on? 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.440 Oh man, I can't do it. I'm in the residential 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:38.080 area right now. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.199 I can't come on, jaim in trouble. Don't you blow 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.520 that horn? 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:46.800 JA, don't wake the people up, j don't you do that? 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.280 Come on, j J Jay, think about the people. Think 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.960 about the people. JA that's sleeping right now. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.560 Yeah. I wouldn't want anybody to do it for me, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:56.560 so I can't do it. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:57.040 That's right. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.440 I respect that, Jay, do the right thing, even when 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:00.800 nobody looks not respect that. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.920 Let's make the whole noise with your mount jacobye dam 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.360 of course, that's crazy. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:16.520 To say that, Yo, this Monday, man, what's up, Mello? 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:18.520 What's up? MV? 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.239 I need to bring Charlemagne and you to the front 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.359 of the congregation, because never did y'all call us the 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.239 king of R and B like Chris browns don't good? 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:28.560 Like are you kidding me? 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.000 Chris Brown? 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.280 Listen, we salute Chris Brown, but Chris Brown would even 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:34.800 tell you otherwise. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.799 Brother, Yeah, because you gotta say that, you feel me. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.000 You're supposed to train to your idols, become your rifles, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.440 And I'm sorry he's done a passion like that. That's 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.320 just not TRUEY won't say I will Chris Brown. Chris 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:45.200 Brown is the king. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.799 Of R and B like respect Chris Brown? 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.120 Chris Does Chris Brown have an album as good as 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:51.800 eighty seven oh one? Does he have an album as 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:52.600 good as Confessions? 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:53.680 Yeah? 0:02:53.720 --> 0:03:00.000 I'm all right, Confession that was okay? But respectfully, anything 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.959 that Breezy got me real. He may have vocal talent 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.480 over him, but Breezy got basically everything else. That's the 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:09.400 only thing I could give him. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.280 Mellow, I just disagree, Mellow. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.360 Yes, sir, I argue with you this morning, arguing mellow, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.000 And it's not a disrespect to christ Brown. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:17.799 Chris Brown is great. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.560 We got to start backing like she's just not on 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:21.520 the whole other level. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.959 Than a lot of people. Man, Hello, who's this? 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:23.680 Hi? 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.080 Hey, good morning, mama, get it off your chest? 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:27.760 Good morning. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.560 I feel blessed. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.560 I just came from the casino, and I came. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:32.560 What casino? 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:33.040 Where you at? 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.480 I'm on Queen's. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.760 I went to the research for pino. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.880 Oh, how much you want congratulate? 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:43.680 Yeah? 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.600 As long as I can hold someone to ask you. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.040 Girl, I'll be having it. It's okay. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.160 What you're gonna do with that money? Something? The first 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.920 right round the corner, the first, the next. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.560 Week, next week, all right, mama, well enjoy, have a 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.400 great week with that bread YouTube. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.720 Bye bye? Now, Hello, who's this? All right? 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:05.640 Get it off your chest? 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.920 Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.280 you need the event, hit us up now. It's the 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.280 Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.240 Right right, ray, Yo, charlat man, Daffy, what up are 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:19.640 we live? 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.560 This is your time to get it off your chest. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.200 I got an indoor pool pool. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:25.880 We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.719 Get on the phone right now, here to tell you 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:28.599 what it is? 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:29.080 We live? 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.560 Hello, who's this? Yeah? There's it going? Man? God, God, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:33.960 what's up? 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.760 Get it off your chest while he sounds some damn. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.880 Brother, No, I ain't dying, just woke up. Man. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.040 By the summer, your Uber ship where you do ber at? 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.200 I thought? He said? He smoking. I was like, God, damn, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.040 you gotta get your life together, he said, Uber when you. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.360 Do uber at bro in Brooklyn on Brooklyn? 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:49.719 Okay? 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.840 Is it is it true that Uber takes like what 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.560 forty percent of what you make? 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:55.760 No? 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.640 I don't think the ride popped up with in screen. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.640 You just accept it and you can get all the money 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:02.640 from the screen. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.320 I don't know what anybody be complaining about. And we 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.039 appreciate you, brother, no doubt. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.200 I appreciate your tea. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.640 But yeah, I just want to let all the drivers 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.839 know when they'll be on the road, stop with these 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.720 emotional turns. I'ab be making the bike lane is to 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.800 the right every time you drive. Every time is a 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.320 driver in front of another driver and they're trying to 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.440 get around, they always make these emotional turn try to 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.240 get around the driver in front of them, And I'm 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.680 always to the right. Drivers, We are to your right, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.440 stop with the emotional turns. They're going to hurt somebody. Okay, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.560 all right, Oh thank you man, no doubt, man, I 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:39.040 have a good day. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.039 Bless sir, you too. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:40.800 Hello. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:41.240 Who's this? 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:42.479 What's your boy? 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.320 KP from the blog KP. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:44.719 For the BX. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:45.000 What up? 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:45.719 Get it off your chest? 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.200 Bro' telling man, listen, I'm calling because I want to 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.479 be positive this morning. Like in the next like five 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.600 six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.760 cruise and go on this a day trip to turn 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:57.320 Saint Thomas in Puerto Rico. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.320 Sam. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.679 I know it's gonna be a good vibe, right man. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.640 Set the vibes early. I like that. Who you taking 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.040 your wife? 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:03.560 Now? 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.479 I'm going with the fam like I'm going one of 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:09.400 my close best friends and mom, everybody like that, my 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:10.200 extended family. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.479 That's right. Joy enjoy that, man. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:17.680 Put your put your feet again, put your feet in 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.120 the saying of turks and kkos. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.119 Man, it's a beautiful place. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.320 Yeah nah. In fact, I've been there one time, but 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.200 only when I was younger, So I know it's gonna 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.120 be great now that I'm gonna go. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:26.919 Have you been on the cruise before? 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:28.080 Yeah? 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.960 Probably, Like nothing. Nothing looks like my ninth time cruise 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.719 and I've been on a Carnival, Caribbean Disney. 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.200 Okay, all things. So you're a professional. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.640 You know where you need to go, what time you 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.040 need to go to lunch and dinner, and how to 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.359 book all little scourges and all that. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:41.760 You're pro after. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.240 Nah, that's the shack my grandmother taught me a long 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.960 time ago. We've been going on for years, so you know, 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.200 she's not with us no more. But it's something I 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.120 like to keep doing because you know, it makes me 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:52.160 remember her. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.120 Okay, bro, have a going Hello. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:55.479 Who's this hey? 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:56.960 Man Jefferson, Man. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.960 Hey Jefferson, good morning. Get it off your chest. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.760 Hey, First of all, shout out all Big nine, one four, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.640 shout out everybody. Shout out with TJ and V Charlamagne. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.880 Everyone there. Look man, black and you're Republican. I don't 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.080 think that's a bad thing. I just want to get 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.560 that off my chest, that everyone that black does not 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.040 have to think democratically or vote democrat. That was it, man. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.240 I agree with you. I don't. I don't think that. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.720 Uh, you know, just because you're black and your your 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.000 you're a black and Republican means that you're a bad person. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.000 But I do feel like, you know, sometimes we vote 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.320 against our own interests. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.200 But I don't think the Democrats have the best interest 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.560 because I feel like they they're promoting us kind of 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.960 to stay in a system that doesn't really benefit us. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.480 In a long call, That's all I'm saying my opinion. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.720 I'm not disagreeing with that. Easy. I'm not disagreeing with 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:43.600 that either. I do. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.800 I do think that we're in some very very very 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.360 troubling times right now though. And I do see, you know, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:54.440 one party leaning heavy towards fascism. But everybody, listen, man, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.360 vote your own interest. That's what I tell folks. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.880 Get it off your chest. Eight undrink five eight five 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.080 one five one. If you need to vent something on 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.280 your mind, call us up right now. Is the Breakfast 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.880 Logan Morning, the Breakfast Club. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:13.800 Practice. We have offices throughout four of the five boroughs. Generally, 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.760 we provide care in underserved communities, whether what often called 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:23.560 health deserts. There's no hospitals or not many physicians around, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.920 and we try and meet patients who need out care 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.600 where they live. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.480 And I told y'all, I've had every cardiovascular test there 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.720 is to have over the past few months, I had 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.199 named some of them that was EKGs. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:37.920 What is some of the. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:43.160 Tests I think you had stress tests before you came 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.320 to us. You had a calcium score. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.440 Calcium score, and yours absolutely not only was the best, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.600 it's the one that put my mind at ease the most. Well, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.959 thank you, especially after I got thosels back. But why 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.560 are the important for people of color to get their 0:08:58.600 --> 0:08:59.520 heart tested regularly? 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.960 Important for people of color to get their heart tested 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.680 period and not regularly because one of the challenges is 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.400 they're not regularly getting they're heart tested. People of color 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.439 have a almost one and a half to two times 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.720 the rate of death from heart disease. They get the 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.679 risk factors for heart disease high blood pressure. They often 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.840 develop high blood pressure at an earlier age it's more 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.960 difficult to treat. They have diabetes at a higher rate, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.400 also a risk factor for heart disease. When they have 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.920 heart attacks, their outcomes are worse. They have a forty 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.079 percent increased chance of dying from a heart attack as 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:47.400 compared to whites in America, and they often have much 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.320 higher rates seventy percent higher rates of congestive heart failure, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.200 which is very disabling, and they develop that often at 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.000 an earlier age. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.640 Well, how can people get tested? Not how can they 0:09:59.640 --> 0:09:59.880 test it? 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.600 Of course, but you know they tell you at forty 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.600 five years old you get a colonoscopy. They tell you 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.199 at this age you do this. At what age should 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.760 people be checking their heart? And you know I go 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.439 to my doctor, you know, twice a year for checkups, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.520 and that one time has he said, all right, well 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:15.760 you need to check out your heart or there are 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.520 certain signs where maybe people say you should check out 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.440 your heart, are certain signs where they should do certain 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.120 things or should they be at a particular age where 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:24.640 this is where you should start doing it more and 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:25.079 more and more. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.400 Yeah, So that's a great question. So the answer to 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.400 that question, I think that depends on whether you have 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.640 symptoms or no symptoms. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:33.440 If you have. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.640 Symptoms of discomfort in your chest, shortness of breath, more 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.760 easy fatigue, not able to do the usual level of exercise, dizziness, lightheadedness, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.400 doesn't matter what age you are, you should be tested 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.680 because let's you remember, heart disease is the number one 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.200 killer in America and even though over the last forty 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.440 years the rate of death from heart disease has come down. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.600 It has not come down for the black community all 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.560 those as have been in the white community. So second, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:08.120 if you're not necessarily symptomatic, okay, overall, you're working, you 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.640 feel good, but you're forty and older as a man 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.560 or fifty year older as a woman, and you've smoked, 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:20.720 have a family history of heart disease, have high blood pressure, diabetes, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:25.360 are high cholesterol, then you should be tested prior to 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.920 the sore in heart scan or cat scanning in general 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.680 of the heart. The only test we had to determine 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.240 if you had heart disease was a stress test, but 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.720 that's not nearly as accurate and doesn't define the heart 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.679 arteries as Charlemagne. When you came in, we sent you 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:45.280 images of your heart arteries, we gave you a risk assessment, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.200 and it's costly. Stress testing almost ten times the course 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.960 of a cat skin. But cat scanning now takes four 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.280 minutes or less. If you come into our office less 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.440 than fifteen minutes of your total time, and you have 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:05.080 a fully accurate, greater than ninety seven percent accuracy of 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:10.079 your heart anatomy, whether there's blockage, calcium, any any disruption 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.880 that could potentially cause a problem later on in life. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:14.960 Well, I was going to ask. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.720 So you know, you go to the dentists, you have 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.559 a cavity, they can fix it right, flaus it whatever, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.760 colonoscope they clean your butt out right, so now they 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.280 know you know what he knows what I mean. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.120 You know, they clean it out, they cut off the polyps. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:27.680 You know what it is. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.400 So if there is a problem with your heart, what 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.319 are the procedures to can it be done right then? 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:33.600 And there? 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.760 Talk that talk doctor Pumber, This is good. Just just 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:36.800 move me away when you told me that. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:41.719 Yeah, So nationally, Medicare is now approved putting heart stents 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:47.319 right in the office in appropriate facilities. New York State 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.680 has not yet approved that, but our center down in 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.080 Lower Manhattan is built for that, and we have the 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.080 latest technology and cardiac cathorization left where you could have 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.800 a stent foot at that time. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.720 Just a stent. A stent is a. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.440 Metal scaffold that when you have a blockage in your 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.560 artery through an artery in your wrists, we put a 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.640 catheter up into the heart and then over a wire 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.400 through the catheter, we can pass a metal stent over 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.920 a balloon and dilate it and clear away the blockage, so. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.440 The stent doesn't stay inside of it. Was just it 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:23.240 just cleans out. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:24.240 It stays inside you. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.800 It does and becomes part of the artery wall. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.280 Okay, so you have a piece of metal in you, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.600 So every time you go through tsa metal detector you. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.640 It won't go off. It doesn't. It doesn't go off. 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.240 It's it's very it's very small, three and a half 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.640 millimeters usually, but no, it doesn't set off metal detectors. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.280 You can use your microwave. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.520 But it's the most common treatment for blocked arteries in 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:49.040 the world. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.280 Can you explain to people what causes heart attacks and strokes? 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.040 Sure, it's a that's a great question. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.400 And I think it's not only a great great question, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.480 great question in general, because it's the leading cause of death, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.400 but in the black community the risk of it is 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:12.080 so much higher. I know, Charlemagne, you're from South Carolina. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.959 I told you my family are raised in North Carolina, 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.280 and in that part of the world we call it 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.200 the stroke belt from North Carolina down to Alabama, primarily 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.160 because black men in particular have high blood pressure at 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.640 such an early age, so difficult to control, less likely 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.920 for African Americans to control their blood pressure than White 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.120 that the risk of stroke from that elevated pressure. Over 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.680 time causes either a blood clot in one of the 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.800 arteries to the brain or it just ruptures. Same thing 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.280 with heart attacks or similar At least over time, the 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.280 body builds up plaque in the arteries. Plaque is just 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.000 cholesterol and calcium. Some of it's from our diet, some 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.720 of it's genetic, some is accelerated if you have diabetes. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.120 In fact, if you have diabetes, you have a three 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.840 times higher risk of dying from a heart attack than 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.280 someone who doesn't have diabetes. So if you have diabetes, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.000 that ought to be like a flashing neon sign, I 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:22.160 need to see a cardiologist. And in communities of color, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.720 when they have high blood pressure and they have diabetes, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.440 when they end up with a heart attack or a stroke, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.240 they usually have worse outcomes, a higher risk of dying 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.280 from it, and if they survive, they're more likely to 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.480 have a lower functional status, to be in congestive heart failure, 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.440 or to have physical abnormalities that they're not able to 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.320 do their activities of daily living. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.800 We have more with doctor Puma when we come back 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.040 don't move as to Breakfast Club. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.760 Good morning, the Breakfast Club. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:54.280 Wining. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:58.160 Everybody is cj NV charlamagnea god. We are to breakfast Club. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.680 We're still kicking with doctor Puma. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.040 A lot of people in our community are scared to 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.520 go to the doctor or can't afford to, don't have insurance. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.360 So what are some of the signs that they should 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.800 look at. Let's go with diabetes. What is a sign 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.080 of diabetes that people should look out for? 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.000 First of all, I would say healthcare should not be 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.800 just for people well off, for people who have insurance. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.440 Healthcare should be a right in this country. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.680 There's no reason, I agree. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.400 There's just no reason why we should treat any not 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.560 treat any human being that needs our help. Right, and 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.440 if you come to any one of our offices, we 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.520 take care of everyone, regardless of their ability to pay. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:36.600 So that's number one. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.240 Number two. High blood pressure and diabetes both. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.560 When we're in medical school where taught, they're called the 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.680 silent killers because they often don't have symptoms. Okay, but 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.400 when they do. If you have high blood pressure, you 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.400 might feel flushed sometimes during the day in your face, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.720 you might get headaches. Okay, you might have chest discomfort, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.240 you might get short of breath. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 All right, you don't need to go to a doctor. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.960 You can go to any pharmacy even and they have 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.040 a blood pressure cuff. They're usually and they'll check your 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.520 blood pressure. So simple screening for that. And remember something 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.679 blood pressure diagnosis often it peaks in our thirties or 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.720 in our fifties, So if you're in communities of color 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.040 and you're in your thirties, you should at least get 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.760 a screening for blood pressure. Diabetes also very elusive in 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:29.560 terms of symptoms. Often the first symptoms a diabetic will 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.800 feel is that they are very thirsty or they're urinating 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.640 a lot, and that's because their sugar levels are high 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.480 and it's making them urinate, which then makes them thirsty. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.639 They often feel weak, have a brain fog, they just 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.960 never feel clear. And again simple pinprick of your finger 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.119 can tell you if your sugar is high or low 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.199 that you probably do need to go to a doctor 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.119 to have that check. Where simple blood tests. But the 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.280 bigger point is simple screening things just self awareness. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.560 You bring up fear. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.240 Fear is a big issue here is a big, big 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.199 issue for for many people. People don't come to me. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.520 It's it's not like I don't know if you're married 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.840 or you have kids, but you know you remember when. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.639 You both married. Yeah, my wife. I can't bring that 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:19.040 up again. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.159 Wow, Carolinas, Okay. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:24.880 I can't bring that up again. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.359 But anyway, but remember like the first time you're pregnant 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.800 and you go to the doctor, everyone's happy and it's 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.560 exciting time. When people come to me, they're scared. I'm 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.440 not sure what's going on. They may not feel well, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.520 they may have a family history, so we have we 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.680 have to deal with that fear. One of the ways 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.760 you deal with that fear is by bringing health care 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.840 to them, as opposed to saying, here, I'm in a big, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.280 fancy building, come to me. I'm really smart. We go 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.320 to them, we want to be in their community, and 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.640 then if there is an issue where they need a test, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:19:00.359 make it easy for them. Okay, explain talk. You know, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.720 people are a lot smarter than sometimes we give them 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.320 credit for, and understanding where they're from and trying to 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.720 learn about them and their family can help kind of 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.119 bring people together and have an honest conversation. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:14.919 I think people want you to talk to about the 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.159 You know, when I asked you what causes the heart 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:18.720 attacks of scrips. I want you to talk about like 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.280 the blockage and how the plaque breaks off and that stuff. 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.720 Yeah, so in the carnery artery, so for strokes, if 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.280 you have high blood pressure, just the high blood pressure, right, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.679 It's the same as if you have high blood pressure 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.639 in your water heater at home. If it gets to 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.199 a certain level, boom, it just pops. But in the 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.360 hard arteries. You can even have a mild to moderate 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.399 plaque in your arteries and then some stressor you're smoking 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.920 a cigarette one day, you're in an argument with someone, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.600 you're having stressful time at work, it can cause that 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.680 plaque to rupture and then causes a blood clot And 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.280 that's a big challenge. The reason when when you ask 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.119 DJ Envy about who should have the scan or you know, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.800 and we said, even in people who are not symptomatic, 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.280 if they have risk factors, they should have a scan. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.399 Because one in three people that have a heart attack 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.000 find out they're having they have heart disease the day 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.680 they have their heart attack, and out of those, one 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.080 in three die. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.359 The day they have their heart attack. 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.320 So it's it's often unpredictable. So unless you know you 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.119 have some plaque. Then there are strategies, as we discussed, 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:32.000 whether it's statin medications, aspirin counseling to help you maybe 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:38.439 stop smoking if you smoke, weight reduction, things of that 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.720 nature that can help. But heart attacks are I like 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.400 to think of it this way. You know, if you're 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.280 having if you're lucky enough to have symptoms, it's kind 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:50.840 of like when you're driving your car and the little 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.240 light goes on, says the tires run and low. 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:54.080 Right. 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.400 Usually if you're having symptoms or you see that light, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.760 you'll attend to it correct so that you don't end 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.719 up with a blowout, let's say on the highway. 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:02.879 That's like a heart attack. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.160 But many people don't have symptoms until the day they 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.000 have their heart attack. 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.840 And I want to read my results that doctor Saren 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.760 sent me, because y'all send five things after you have 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.800 the test. It's to images of your coronary heart arteries, 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.399 your heartflow analysis of the arteries. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:19.600 Right, what is that exactly? 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.920 So the heartflow analysis is if there is any plaque 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.000 in the artery, it's a Heartflow is a company based 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.880 in California that has proprietary AI software that can actually 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.040 assess the flow to determine if that plaque, that blockage 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.760 is obstructive needs to be treated with a stent or bypassed, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:45.280 or non obstructive needs aggressive medical therapy. It's amazing software. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:50.240 We use it on all our patients. And it's that alone, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.800 that software alone has been proven to make you to 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.359 reduce mortality, increases survival by having. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.520 The sore and hearts scan with heartflow. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.520 And so y'all and y'all send the soaring heart scan 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.240 final report, you send your blood work report. And finally, 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.800 which I really loved, the ten year risk of cardiovascular 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.040 events which is heart attack, stroke of death. Now this 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.879 is what put my mind at ease. Overall, your results 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.359 are excellent. Despite a high calcium score for your age, 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.400 there's only minimal plaque in your heart arteries. 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.679 Furthermore, your lipid cholesterol profile, Yeah. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.399 Your cholesterol profile is excellent and well below goal on 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:29.240 your current statum medication and aspirin, which I would continue. 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.159 Your blood pressure and heart rate are those of a 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.000 man twenty years younger. All these factors contribute to a 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.760 very low ten year cardiovascular risk of only three point 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.159 five percent optimal for men of your age. Would be 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.399 three percent, so you are in very good shape. That 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.640 put my mind at my heart within the next fifteen 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:45.960 and I think I got those results the next day. 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.959 That's correct, think, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's correct. 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.040 So I would flip it back to you. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.240 I would definitely like to sign up because I definitely 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:54.840 would like to make sure that I'm here for my kids. 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.080 I have six kids, so I want to make sure 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:57.880 I'm here for my kids. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.520 You'd be welcome to come and yeah, and I just 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:05.119 think the access making it easy, right, you know, you 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.440 all are people of means and you know, but it's 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.680 for everybody, and you can and you can really make 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.280 a great impact for people who may have some fear, 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.880 arensure what the entry point is, aren't sure what to do. 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.720 So I appreciate you inviting me. I appreciate you taking 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:27.199 the time and talking about it, and I hope we 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:27.960 can help some people. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.800 And where can they get more information? I'll reach you directly. 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.960 On our website so or in medical ny dot com. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.320 We're on Instagram. I've never been on any of these things. 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.520 I've been practicing for over thirty years, but in the 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.080 past year, all the young folks in our practice have 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:50.040 us on Instagram and on the website now and they 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.280 can call the office or send us an email. As 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.600 you saw, we respond right away. We get you in 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.360 right away, and we give you comprehensive results, and if 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.280 we think there's something more, we make sure that we 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.080 shepherd you through your health care journey to good health. 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:07.359 Everybody needs to go do this. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.639 Man, I've had too many friends you know, either having 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.520 heart attacks or having strokes over the past few years. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.000 Are dying of heart attacks and strokes. 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.520 So you should definitely go to us soron medical and 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.840 get the soaring hearts can. Absolutely, I'm going as soon 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.840 as I can, and I appreciate you so much for 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:21.399 joining us. 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.520 Thank you very much, Doctor Joseph Pumer. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.560 It's the Breakfast Club. 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Slash breakfast. 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:48.480 It's topic time. 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.119 Eight hundred five five one five one to join in 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:53.920 to the discussion with the Breakfast Club. 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.920 Morning Everybody, It's DJ NV Charlamagne the gud we are 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.840 the Breakfast Club of course just hilarious is here and 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.280 she came up with this topic right here. 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.000 She says, not based on the true story though you just. 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.880 Him, Yes, we are Jesus. 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.160 So the question is she's almost going into the bushes. 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.159 So if your baby daddy and your boyfriend is fighting, 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.160 who do you help? 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:23.920 And do you feel bad? 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:24.720 Now? 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.520 You said you're helping your baby daddy. 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:27.440 Yeah, I have to said. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:27.920 Because you can't fight. 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.159 Yes, Damn, Rome is my guy, like I have to 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:32.160 help him now. 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:33.880 Byre gonna feel about this when he hears this later. 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:37.000 I don't know, Lord, have mercy, Just you're making your 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:37.960 life difficult. 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.439 For no, because no, y'all turned the question back on me. 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:42.400 This is for them out there. 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.120 You don't have to answer. 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:47.040 You gonna let it go. 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.080 My god, who you're helping? If your boyfriend and baby 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.080 daddy fighting? 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.520 And John hypothetically, man. 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.080 What about you? 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.680 Who you. 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.720 Let Hey? John? Good morning? 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.520 Now John, If you're your baby daddy and your boyfriend 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.600 started fighting, what you're gonna do? 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:04.840 I don't have a baby daddy. 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.119 I had a baby, mama, and uh, my girl was 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.040 fighting and I helped that my girl. 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:11.640 Yeah, you out with your girl? 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:12.679 They said it happened. 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.000 Yeah, well them, Jeff, what that baby? 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.800 How you doing? You said you're helping you? You helped 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:18.240 your girl. 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:19.000 I didn't. 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.400 I didn't help my girl, but I let her get 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:21.800 her left. 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.400 I think you should help who? Uh whoo? 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:25.879 Who? 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.320 Who loves your child? I think you should help who 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.800 your child would want you to help. Yeah, and by 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.240 the way, I don't think you gotta help any You 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:34.240 just don't let them fight. 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.400 You get in between them. Like yo, y'all ain't fighting. 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.040 So who would you have shelman? 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.040 I would if if they needed help, I would help 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.040 the person. I know my child would want me to help. 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.199 I would help the person. If my child was standing there, 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:46.359 my child would try to interview. 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.520 No, come on, come on with my child standing there. 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.600 No, because you nobody gonna be fighting in front of chaild. 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.800 No now, And they pulled up. If your boyfriend and 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.959 your baby father got into it, who are you out? 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:57.119 Like? 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.280 Who are you grabbing first? 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:00.160 Between both of them? 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.200 You get in between but wow, whoa No, don't ever 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:03.960 get him between them? 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.400 You know what I mean, I'm breaking. 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.080 Them up, But it just depends I would just stopover 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.800 getting the asking whoever getting a cool put them off 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:12.080 from or. 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.400 Something right right, Because to be honest with you know, 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.040 I would help Rome, but Rome would be the reason 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:17.440 to fight. 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.760 It happened because Rome antagonizes. 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:24.160 Chris is not going to he just going he's gonna fight, 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:25.760 but Rome is gonna start it. 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.359 But I still have to help because Rome has this. 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.199 And I think, I mean, mouf, I think when we 0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.359 mean help, we don't mean we're not helping to fight. 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.359 We just gonna break it up, right, that's what. 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:40.560 You Because if you help your if you help your 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.240 baby daddy or your baby mama, you still gotta go 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.639 home with your boyfriend and girl for later on. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.360 And then they're gonna say, you know what, why why 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:46.000 you punch me too? 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.280 Or it's just a boyfriend and girlfriend. That's all y'all said, 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.080 boyfriend and girlfriend? How serious is it? 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.000 I'm just as he keeps trying to change the story. 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:59.160 Hello club, now. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:27:59.919 Jack, Jack, what you do? 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.400 I'm fighting, I'm kicking it off. 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.560 You owe me shock support? 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.679 We fighting, dang, I know that's right, Okay. 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:08.560 And then I'm going back. 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.720 I'm going back home to my baby, and I'm being like, Yo, did. 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.520 You hear what happens to your Daddy's tragic? 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.720 But I started it. I'm fighting Jesus you know about 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:18.080 this man? 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.120 A lot of these women want their boyfriends to beat 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:20.560 up baby. 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.840 It sounds like yeah, yeah, definitely, Oh my god. 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:29.200 Christian text me, Hey, good morning baby, good morning. 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.160 Here, good morning, good morning morning. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.679 Hey, I'm good darmer peez, what's happening? 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:38.120 What's happening? 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.160 Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight? 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:41.760 Who you helping? 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.680 I'm jumping my baby daddy is all about the kids. Yeah, 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.400 any time. I got to deal with my baby daddy 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:53.960 for the rest of my life. Okay, we're jumping at anything. 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.920 Do you like your boy you want them? Do you 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.960 like your boyfriend? 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:01.920 It's only the baby daddy for me. That's why I 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:02.520 got to deal. 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.800 With Okay, calm in. 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.040 Good morning. 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:09.560 How you feeling. 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.080 I'm feeling pretty good. Now. 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.440 Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight. 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:15.000 Who you helping? 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.160 I gotta I gotta fight both of them. 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:19.520 So you're gonna We're gonna bunch. 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:20.600 You're gonna punch both of them. 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:21.080 Yes. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.280 For so I'm gonna help my baby daddy because you know, 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.080 we got kids, you know what I'm saying. But then 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.160 I'm gonna help my man because that's my man, everybody, 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.080 and figure out the details later, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.920 So you just hitting both of them at. 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.160 This point, because why y'all even got me in this situation? 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:43.480 That's hilarious. 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:44.400 Hello, who's this? 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:45.320 Hey? 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:45.960 What's up this? 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:46.640 Crystal? 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:47.120 Hey? 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.000 Crystal, good morning, Good morning. 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.160 You know we're having an intellectually calm, intellectual conversation about 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.200 baby daddy and boyfriends? 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:55.320 Which one you help it if they fight? 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.760 Okay? So I'm gonna be honest, it gotta be. It's 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.040 two things. It's how long I been with this my boyfriend, 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.480 and who started Now me personally, I got a petty 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.200 baby daddy. I got petty baby daddy and me my 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.720 my guy. I've been with him for three and a 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.640 half years. So he's not I don't know, drama stuff, 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.840 no messy stuff, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.120 a just on my baby daddy started it. So I'm 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.280 gonna side with my because we don't we don't do 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.120 that drama with his baby mama, my baby day. We 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.120 don't do that, so I just a frips. Don't know 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.840 what's my baby daddy, So I'm sided with my always. 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:33.440 All right. 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.640 It feels like the baby daddy is more permanent in 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.600 your life than a boyfriend, though, because you don't know 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.360 unless that boyfriend proposes, becomes your becomes your husband. 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.040 It feel like the baby daddy is who you should 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:44.400 really be. 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.920 But like she said, it, yeah, like it just depends 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:49.840 like that. 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.880 The only reason I'm helping Room is because I cannot 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.320 see him get beat up, not because because of the kids, 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.760 because as gonna be like, Dad, you knew you couldn't fight, 0:30:58.880 --> 0:30:59.600 Like you know what I'm saying. 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.920 It's not that why doing that? But but seriously, you're 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:04.280 gonna make. 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.080 Room slap something tomorrow, Like you're gonna go ou He's 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:07.880 just gonna slap somebody. 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:09.760 Just difficult. You say he can't fight, and you will 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:10.640 get messed up. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.960 Dam calls problems in Baltimore all day years say you 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:15.640 can't fight. 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.760 Yeah, that's not her breakfast. 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:20.560 She said, you can't fight. 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:27.800 We do not somebody thank you. 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.480 Yes, yes, your baby daddy and your boyfriend fighting. 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:29.080 Who you helping? 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.440 I would watch everything and reported, Oh, so you're gonna 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.120 sit back and world start boom. 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:40.240 Yup, world star all day, scream yell, eat some popcorn 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:41.080 at the same time. 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.160 Who would you want to win? 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:47.840 Honestly, my boyfriend, baby daddy. 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:48.000 Got no love. 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.360 That's right, baby daddy needs it. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.000 Girl, I know that's right. 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:54.120 What's the moral of the story. 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.880 If there's a moral of the story, yes. 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.600 Don't jump in, don't jump in, the moral of the 0:31:58.600 --> 0:31:59.760 stories they shouldn't be fighting. 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.080 That they shouldn't be fighting. And if they do, do 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.320 not just call the police. 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.840 Call the police, not even want to both get locked up. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:08.880 One might have a warrant. 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:10.560 Now they get now they get arrested. 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.280 You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.240 don't fight. But I don't think the woman should jump in. 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.000 Don't help even if you up. 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:21.560 I can't fight. 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:23.400 No, don't jump in. 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.360 You keep saying that man, no, because I seen who 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:26.880 came late. 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.440 I'd be grown up before. Yes, and in the younger days. 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:31.400 But he didn't get you back. 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.040 I'm sure yes, going at it is man room used 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:36.320 to get damn with the get down. I told you he 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.320 was cheating on me before you met me so Yeah, 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:38.960 that that's that. 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.959 Just explained creative. You're trying to fight back and you're 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:42.640 getting beat up. 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.080 Yes, like real big, like wrong, you can't pick me up. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:50.840 That ain't funny, but it's funny. 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.680 It's like when we have pictures. I'm an interview him. 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.160 We gonna interview him. Let's go and you're gonna see 0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.720 my god man tell you the truth. 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.040 Yes, she beat me up a couple of times, but 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.480 a couple of times because I let her put me 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:04.200 in a headline one time. 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:04.960 Maybe tap out. 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.800 Yeah, and she's small, real little. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:08.520 Take that little. 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.000 Now, sain't that little? She was big enough to put 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.360 me in the headline right. 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.840 Than what she is? He is little? She ain't that little? 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:18.320 Yes she is. 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.320 Actually, I don't move. 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.440 It's to the breakfast lug aboard it the breakfast Club. 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.160 Morning, everybody in stej n V. 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.800 Charlamagne to God. We are the breakfast Club. We have 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.400 Laura Luosa our guest host. And we got a special 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.080 guest in the building, ladies, Kerry Washington. 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.120 That's right, welcome Washington. 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:45.000 Book out Thicker than Water. Congratulations, learned so much about you, 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.160 uh with this book. First, Maybe it's just me being stupid. 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.480 I didn't know you were from the Bronx. 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.920 Really, I did not know that. I didn't know you 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.479 were from the bron born and raised. 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:56.120 You know what I say? 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:57.880 I say, the craziest people in America come from the 0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.000 Bronx and all of Florida. 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:06.200 Why what why I agree on Florida, but why the Bronx. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.960 One of the most talented people that come from the Bronx. 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.799 That is very true too. Now, how did you know 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.560 now the time to write, dickn It was so. 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.279 What I write about in the book is that a 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.759 handful of like five years ago, my parents sat me 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:23.080 down and shared with me some new information about myself 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.239 that really kind of challenged the way that I thought 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.800 about myself, that I thought about my family, turned my 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.320 world upside down. And at the time, I had actually 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.280 sold another book, Idea, which was based kind of inspired 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:35.840 by the show that I was on, Scandal, and it 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.520 was like, these are the ten things that I learned 0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.480 from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down to 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.120 write that book, all I could think about was this 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.279 new information I'd been given and how it impacted my 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.919 family and my sense of self. And so I wasn't 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.080 going to write a book at all. I tried to 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.399 give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:50.920 Wow. 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.440 And then a few years later I was like, I 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.479 think I have to at least try to write this. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.080 Book because you said your parents didn't want you to 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:58.359 reveal benefit. Yeah. 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.239 Yeah, So my parents told me that they were sort 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.239 of forced to tell me that my dad is not 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:05.440 my biological father. 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:06.319 Yeah. 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.080 How did that affect you? Because I mean, he still 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.399 your dad at the end of the day. We've seen 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.800 the picture you know, had. 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.360 Had chokes on Instagram? 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.879 Yea, yeah, yeah, So how did that affect anything after 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:16.520 you were told? 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:16.920 So? 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.880 I think immediately when they told me it was weird, 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.920 to be totally honest with you, I felt like excited. 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.960 I felt excited and grateful because I had always felt 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.400 like there was something going on in my family that 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.120 I couldn't put my finger on. But it was like 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.839 a dynamic of distance or like there was I just. 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:37.719 Knew that I didn't know what. 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.799 I didn't know, but I knew that that there was 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.680 something between my parents and I, And because I didn't 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.400 know what it was, a lot of times I blamed 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.319 myself for that, or maybe thought I was crazy for 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.959 thinking it. Maybe thought maybe I'm just not open enough, 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:51.680 like I was always trying to figure it out. 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:52.279 So when they. 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.160 Told me, it felt like, I don't know, it felt 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.960 like I could breathe. It felt like, oh, this is 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.520 this is a real opportunity for me to jump into 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:04.440 this new kind of understanding of myself and my life. 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.719 And you know, it was really exciting. 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.000 When you would ask questions about like just different things, like, hey, 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.600 you go to the doctors and they say, you know 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.800 what illnesses are on your mom, So your dad, you 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.239 would ask your dad your mom those questions? 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.759 How would they answer it? As if my dad was 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.880 my father? They were going to take this to their grave, 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.919 And I get it. I totally understand, right, Like, yeah, 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.040 I think they they felt like, well, first of all, 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.239 let me just say this, my parents are renegades, right, 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.200 Like a lot of us now we know people who 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.760 go to sperm donor sperm banks. Right, It's like very 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.480 common relatively now, and you get a whole catalog. You 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.640 can pick the color of the eyes and what Ivy 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.080 League university they went to. But when my parents did 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.200 this in the mid seventies, nobody was doing this this 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.439 was highly experimental, highly secretive. It was a big risk 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.000 they were taking. It wasn't like they had complete health 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.680 screenings for the donor. They had no idea who the 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.440 donor was. They said, we asked two things. Let them 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.480 be healthy. Who knows what that means at the time, right, 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:04.800 but like we want them to be healthy, and we 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:05.640 want them to be black. 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.800 Because they wanted this to be a secret. 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.120 So, yeah, you know, you talk about your eating disorder 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.600 and dealing with how you felt about your body and 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:14.040 your looks. 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.120 I wanted to know what got you in that point. 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.160 And the reason I ask is I have four daughters. 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.359 Charlemagne has four daughters, and I always want to make 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.560 sure I try my hardest to give my daughter as 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.960 many compliments as possible, right, because you never want them 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:27.600 to feel that way. 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.640 But sometimes I don't think that matters because it's. 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:30.760 Also how they look at themselves. 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.840 So what got you to that point where you didn't 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.600 like what you've seen in a mirror or something that 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:36.520 you weren't happy about. 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.880 It's such a good question. I have daughters too, right, 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.239 So it's something that I think about a lot. I 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.799 think that the food, it's like any other kind of 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.040 addictive behavior. It's not about the drug, it's not really 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.280 about the food or even really about the relationship with body. 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.280 Came out from a compulsion. 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.960 Of trying to escape the feelings I was having or 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.520 numb them. And so I think for me, it was 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.239 this sense that I write about in the book of 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.439 feeling like I had to be perfect, like I had 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.959 to be better. 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.160 Than who I was, in order to be deserving of love. 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.000 And some of that came from like what why do 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.040 I have this weird dynamic with my parents? 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:18.960 Like what's going on? 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:24.000 Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.200 might be more lovable. 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:26.759 So I don't even you know. 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.000 I mean, I do think it's important to teach our 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.719 kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise, 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.520 to make healthy choices when it comes to food, to 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.000 teach them about nutrition, about how food works in the body. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:37.880 All that's important. 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:42.800 But I think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved, 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.160 to feel safe, those are the things that I think 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.120 help us have the tools to live in life on 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:53.680 life's terms, as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors to 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:54.840 escape life. 0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:56.680 Now I'm jumping all around because I want people to 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.240 read the book Thinking of Water. But you talked about, 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.160 you know, always grabbing for perfection. Yeah, but you said, 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.080 Jamie Fox thought you a very valuable lesson. 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:05.480 Yeah. 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:06.880 Can you explain what that was? 0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.799 Yeah, I think Jamie. I mean, I've been really lucky. 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.680 I've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.080 Ray and Janego Unchained. 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:16.319 Classics by the way. 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.880 Yeah, truly, he's He's the best. And Jamie's taught me 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.000 a lot about a lot of things. But one of 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.600 the things is in my work as an actor, to 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.840 you have to let go of that perfection idea. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:30.839 Because we were doing a scene together in Ray. 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.600 It was the scene where I find speaking of drugs, 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.000 where I find all his heroin works the first time 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.560 as his wife, and you know, we had done it 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.080 in the morning. We had hit it out of the 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.080 park and I was like, oh, we are on fire. 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:43.120 This is incredible. 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.440 And then as the day went on, I kept trying 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.440 to do it exactly the way we had done it 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.239 earlier that morning, so that it would be in that 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.920 perfect place that felt so good. And that's the beginning 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.160 of death. As an actor, like you, you can't try 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:01.239 to recreate magic. You have to keep cultivating new magic, right, Like, 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.240 you have to truly be in the moment. And Jamie 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.879 really helped me to realize I was frustrated in the scene, 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.280 and he was like, you got to you gotta keep digging, 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.360 you gotta let go of this morning. And that was 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:12.840 a really powerful lesson. 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.400 Why was it easier to find that in acting as 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.040 opposed to real life? 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.080 Well, I guess I hadn't learned how to apply that 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.920 to the rest of my world. You know, there was 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.360 like it was in a vacuum, was isolated kind of moment. 0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:25.479 But it's a good question. 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.359 I mean, that is the lesson though, right is that, 0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:32.000 like the answer is never about perfection, It's always about like, 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.279 what's the best possible version of my life in this 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.120 moment of me in this moment. 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.120 Now, you did say something I heard you say that 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.879 parents do the best that they can and then it's 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.279 up to us to parent ourselves after that. 0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.319 Explain that, well, I think like one of the things 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.640 that I've truly come to terms with in writing this 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.800 book is that my every choice my parents made was 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.279 out of love. They weren't trying to be cruel. They 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.960 weren't trying to hurt me. They really thought that this 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.239 was the best choice. And by the way doctors back 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.640 then said it, artificial examination was so new. They would say, 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.560 do this thing and then you go home and have sex, 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.120 and then you have plausible deniability. And nobody knew forty 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.799 years ago there would be these home tests twenty three 0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:10.560 in ancestry. 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.600 You had no idea. So they were like, go home 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:14.120 and have sex. 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.000 Then the kid's yours, end of story, nothing to talk about, right, 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.759 And so I think my parents didn't want me to 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:21.560 feel different. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:22.880 They didn't want me to feel weird. 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.319 They didn't want me ironically, they didn't want me to 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.680 feel distance from them, even though that's what wound up happening. 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.920 So I know that they made loving choices or choices 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.719 out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me. 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.000 But I think we have to for me and my journey. 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.960 It's been like it's been good to understand who they were, 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.440 to have compassion for their choices. But I can't blame 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.520 them for where I am now, Like now that I 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.799 have awareness, I have to say, like, Okay, they gave 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.960 me everything they could with as much love as they could. 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.759 How do I now close the gap between what they 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.680 gave me and what I need. That's my responsibility as 0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.319 an adult. If I just sit here and continue to 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.720 complain about what they didn't give me, that I'm keeping 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:02.640 myself a child. 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.319 Hi, we got more with Kerrie Washington. When we come back, 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:05.759 don't move. 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:06.600 It's to Breakfast Club. 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:07.440 Good morning Borning. 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.560 Everybody is ej NV Charlamagna. God we are to Breakfast Club, 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.839 especially with guest co host Laura la Rossa is here 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.160 and we're still kicking away. Carrie Washington, Lauren. 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:18.800 What's the conversation like with your kids? 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.120 Like once you decided to take this world to your 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.399 kids and even deciding to write the book, and now 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.680 you're you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.840 and everybody knows who you are, So how do you 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:29.400 have that conversation with them and kind of how are 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.440 they responding to things? 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.600 You know, It's funny, like I was saying before, this 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:36.280 is so common now, like it's not news to my kids. 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:41.000 They were so unimpressed, Like you know, they're in their classes. 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.080 They have kids with two dads and two moms, so 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.720 they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors, 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.239 friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates. 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.560 Like they also like we're a. 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.800 Blended family, right, They're big sister, you know when we 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.520 look at the three of them, their big sister has 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.360 four parents. Like having me having another parental figure in 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.720 my story, it's not weird to them. For my parents, 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.040 they came from a world where what makes a family 0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.239 was very different, but the ideas of what makes a 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.840 family now is much more open. So you know, they 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.040 they know obviously the conversation I have with my seventeen 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:15.840 year old is very different than the conversation I have 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.520 with my six year old, right, But I want to 0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.799 be a home where we're open and honest and where 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.640 they feel like they can ask anything. 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.520 What about when you decided to because I know in 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.200 this book you talk about the abortion that you had 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.560 at twenty. Yeah, that is something that is like in 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.680 your twentieth But I mean it's around Saved the Last 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:37.040 Dance time, right, so you were, you know, highly successful 0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:37.920 at this time. 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.279 I know. But it's in a chapter that I call 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:41.759 black famous because I was. 0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.160 I mean, you know how we are like white people 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.759 didn't necessarily know that the girl from Saved the last 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:48.640 dance was the same girl from Ray was the same 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.759 girl from Last Kame of Scotland. So we knew, I, 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.600 you know, but so yes, I was my star was 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:54.280 on the rise. 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.520 But it wasn't. I wasn't like I could still go 0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.080 to the grocery store and it was all good. 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.480 I love yourself awareness. Did you realize you. 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.719 Were black famous when you were black famous or with 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:04.920 that in hindsight, No. 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.360 In the moment, because I knew, you know. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.719 It was like I knew I could walk down the 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:14.759 street on fifty seventh in Madison and be fine, but 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.799 if I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:21.160 my god. Or like at the time, I was a 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.560 substitute teacher in New York City public schools. That was 0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.040 one of my many side hustles when I was trying 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.480 to make a living as an actor. And it was 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.839 funny because I would get hired into the school and 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.000 the principals who were white, you know, the principal's vice principals, 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:35.440 they would be like, so nice to meet you. 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.319 Great, they bring me to the classroom. They had no 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:38.200 idea who I was. 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.760 But then I would be asked to leave a school 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.000 because By the second day, all the kids were cutting 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.920 class to see Chaneil from Save the Last Dance because 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.959 they knew who I was because I was substitute teaching 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.120 in Harlem. So it was like that dynamic. I understood 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.440 that certain people knew who I was and other people didn't. 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.880 What's more fulfilling being black famous or white famous. 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.359 I think you have to have both. That was one 0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.600 of the things that that Chris rocked, like, you can 0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:07.120 never ever forget your core original first audience. You cannot 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.160 because that other audience will come and go, they'll be 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.200 ebbs and flows. But black people will hold you up throughout. 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.840 If you stay with us, we stay with you. 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:17.920 I feel like that's what made Scandal Is such a hit. 0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:18.919 Absolutely. 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.319 I mean, we were part of the birth of black 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.480 Twitter at the time. So I one of my best 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.120 friends from high school. She's a brilliant social media person, 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.400 Alison Peters. She actually convinced me to go on Twitter 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.680 and I was like, what why, I don't know, and 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:34.400 she was like she had come out of viacom and 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:35.960 was like, it's really important, you need to do this. 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.200 And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:43.520 talking the cast into being on Twitter, and we were 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:45.600 one of the first shows to do live tweeting and 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.479 to really have event television at a time where people 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.120 were no longer watching shows in real time unless it 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:55.560 was like a basketball game. And so that conversation around 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:59.959 the show was our grassroots movement, Like we had black 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.840 Twitter on fire. People like Oprah eventually were like, I 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.000 only started watching Scandal because it's the only thing people 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:06.680 talked about on Thursday nights on Twitter. 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.160 So yes, in. 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:13.200 That first season, it was absolutely because black audiences. You 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.759 know how culture follows us, so black audiences made it 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.719 that you had to be there to tune in, and 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.040 suddenly it trickled out into the rest of the world. 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.000 Often do people come up to you to streak. 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.680 All the time, all the time and to be honest 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.320 because the show was inspired by a real woman, Judy Smith, 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.480 who's a real DC fixer who never slept with the president, 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.880 but was a real fixer. And I have her on 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.040 speed dial, so people also will come to me to 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:42.880 get to her. 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.239 Because they know she is truly able to fix down. 0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.919 Have you needed I haven't needed her, but I've sent 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.640 other people to her. Yes, but I've talked to her. 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.520 I mean, like not on Like I'm in jail. It's 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:57.680 two Am helped me out. But like, you know, if 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.560 there's a rollout of a movie and I'm like, I 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.520 don't know, Oh, this directory is a little bit of 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.400 a problem. What do you think you know I've done. 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.560 I've had those kind of conversations with her. Yeah, but people, 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:11.080 do you know? It's funny, like it'll happen in political moments. 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.960 Like a lot of my political work now is inspired 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.399 by the fact that in twenty sixteen, the morning after 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:20.200 the election, when that awful, rapist, racist person was elected, 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:24.080 that when I woke up all over social media people 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:25.080 were like, you have. 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:25.839 To save us. 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.520 What are you gonna do? Please Olivia Pope? 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.160 And it was funny for a minute, and then I 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.480 was like, we have a real problem in our culture 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.719 because we don't realize that Olivia Pope is an imaginary 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.680 character on a television show, and that every single person 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.479 who wrote one of those tweets they have more power 0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.520 than Olivia Pope because she can't vote, she can't register voters, 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:50.960 she can't volunteer, she can't knock on doors. But it's 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.160 like we've given our power over to imaginary people because 0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.520 we have this hero worship, right, So we're not stepping 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.960 into our power because we're looking for somebody else to 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.520 solve our problems for us. 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:01.800 So a lot of the work. 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.279 That I've been doing has been trying to figure out 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:06.439 how to turn the spotlight that's on me onto those 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.000 grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work. 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.320 But when people saw you with the Vice President the 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:11.920 other day. 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.600 Yeah, she's back, she's the White House. Yeah. 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.439 I want to ask a more question about your father. 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.919 How did finding out your father wasn't your biological father 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.839 changed your views on parenthood? Oh? 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.080 Man, Well, one thing I say in the book is, 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.239 and it's what I feel, is that in our community, 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:35.120 where people have historically had such difficult relationships, right where 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.279 there's this history of dad's maybe not being present, you know, 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:39.799 in the neighborhood that I grew up in, I grew 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.600 up in one of the few households where the dad 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.200 was around, and you know, my parents were still married. 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.440 And the fact looking back that that my dad really 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.319 did choose me, that he was there, He's been there 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.480 for me the whole time that he's been this you know, 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.200 parental force in my life, that he's my dad, that 0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.680 he chose me, that I belonged to him and he 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.600 belongs to me. It almost meant more than it ever 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:09.000 did before. And I feel really grateful. 0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.680 You know now you contemplated suicide at one point, Yeah, 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.080 what got you there? First of all? And then how 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:15.719 did you get through it? 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.000 Because I'm sure there's people listening now that might be 0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.319 in that same zone and trying to work themselves through 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.480 it every day. So what got you to that point 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.160 where you felt that way? And then how did you 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:25.200 get over that obstacle? 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.040 When you say there might be people listening who feel 0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:31.960 that way, it's like my heart breaks because I just 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:37.160 know how hard it is to feel that alone and 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:41.600 that hopeless. So if anybody's listening and is feeling that way, 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.720 the one thing I would say is to ask for help, 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.080 you know, is to really ask for help because you 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.839 are you feel alone, but I guarantee you you are 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.160 not alone. And for me, that was the big thing 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.560 was I mean number one was the first time that 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.520 I truly got on my knees and talked to God 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.920 and was like I need help, like I don't I 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.080 because I felt like I really don't have any tools. 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:08.480 I don't I don't know what to do. 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:10.399 So it was the first time that I think I 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.840 humbled myself enough to feel like there's got to be 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.160 something bigger than me that points me in the direction 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.360 of healing, and I started reaching out. I went to 0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.960 therapy for the first time, group therapy, one on one, 0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:23.800 Like I just really started committing to trying to walk 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:24.800 this road of healing. 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.120 I swear by, Yeah, Hi, we got more with Kerry 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:29.759 Washington when we come back, don't move. 0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:30.600 It's to Breakfast Club. 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.480 Good morning, everybody's DJ Envy Charlemagne to God. 0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:35.680 We are to Breakfast Club. 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:37.919 Our special guest co host Laura La Rosa is here 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.280 and we're still kicking it with Carrie Washington. 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.120 Charlemagne, did you're talking about traveling in the Black Famous chapter, 0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:44.480 you talk about going to Africa? 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.359 Yeah, to become African? How did that trip change? 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:48.200 So? 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:50.000 I was filming Last King of Scotland. 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:51.880 That was my first time on the continent and it 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.520 was great because I do feel like sometimes as black 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.560 people in America, we go to Africa with all these 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:57.719 like do I belong here? 0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:58.720 Do I feel at home? 0:50:58.840 --> 0:50:58.920 Like? 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.319 What is my relationship here? And I just had to 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.239 put all of that aside because my focus was on 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.280 just kind of dropping in and becoming a Ugandan woman. 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.960 And I I really did feel at home there. 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:11.200 I did. 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.480 I felt so lucky to be able to be so 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:16.279 immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like you know, 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.120 as a tourist, and I took it when I was there. 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.080 I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.800 not in the book, but we were hiking in the 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.680 ruin Zori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.839 and Uganda, and it's where the only wild gorillas live. 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.160 And you can go out with a gorilla trucker and 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.120 find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them. 0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.600 You go with like a tour guide and these truckers 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.879 and these guys with AK forty Seven's just in case 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.200 if people travel from all over the world to have 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.080 this experience, because it is one of the most intense 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.360 spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my 0:51:58.440 --> 0:51:59.840 experience with the whales that are write about at the 0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:02.520 end to the book. But it was like to be 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.400 in the jungle, to be with these creatures and you 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.440 realize we really do share like ninety seven ninety eight 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.560 percent of our DNA with these animals, and they are 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.279 you start to think like, oh, they're so human, but no, 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.040 like we are so gorilla. And the craziest thing that 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.480 happened was when they give you this orientation in the morning. 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.200 They're like, if a gorilla gets close to you and 0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.040 is looking at you, the most important thing to do 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.640 is not run. You have to to feel safe, act 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:26.480 like a gorilla. 0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:31.759 So I was like, waited, I was. 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.000 Gonna say, I didn't hear it through that lens because 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.759 for me, I was like a young actor who had 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.680 done animal exercises at school, like this was my opportunity 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.280 for this was my Meryl Street mode. 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:42.560 Wow. 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:45.640 So when the gorilla case from the tree, I was like, 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:46.640 I squat down. 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.400 I mean, everybody in my group was like, what is she? 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.400 When I tell you that is the best performance of 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.400 my life, I was. 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.120 I was the gorilla, the gorilla was me. 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.160 I started, I picked off a leaf, started chewing on it, 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.360 and we had the most incredible experience because it's golla. 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.400 Gorilla kept getting closer and closer to us, and this 0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.400 little baby gorilla, she was so curious, she was like, what, 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:07.840 we've never seen a human like this. 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.000 She was like, this one's one of us. 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:13.760 But close. 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.799 They just they got closer, the trekker said, than they'd 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.160 ever had a gorilla get to a group before. I mean, 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:21.960 the guy with the AK forty seven came right next 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:22.960 to me because they were terrified. 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:24.920 But I was like, don't stop, don't stop. Yeah, it 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:25.440 was incredible. 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:33.400 Yeah, you don't tell you that just because. 0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:34.600 The experience that we got out of it. I mean 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.120 they said it to everybody in the group, but I 0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.719 was the best actor in the Wow. 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.399 Yeah, when all of this is done, like everybody gets 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:42.480 the book, they get to read it. 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.040 Everybody should get the book, read the audio book. 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.360 It's me and my own words. So that's fun. 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.720 What is the like, the the hug or the message 0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:53.800 that you want people to get from this book? 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.040 I think, and this is something that I've written in 0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:58.960 the book, but there's a saying I heard a long 0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.759 time ago that I really love that we are as 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.359 sick as our secrets. Sure, and that when I think, 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:10.319 when we can let go of the things that keep 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.840 our true selves hidden, we can let go of our shame. 0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.759 You know, I knew when my parents told me. 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:20.040 I realized that they had been living under this lie 0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.520 for so long that every time I had said I 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.880 love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious, 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.720 there must have been a part of him that thought, 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.200 she loves me because she thinks I am her father. 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:31.160 Wow. 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.320 And there must have been a part of him that thought, 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.560 if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.000 love me. That's part of why they didn't tell me. 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.600 And so I had the opportunity, once they gave me 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.520 that truth, to actually, for the first time, love my 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:51.120 father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve. That's what 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.080 we all want. We want to know that, no matter 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.600 what we do, or how we act, or what we've 0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:59.720 done in the past, that we're lovable and that we're loved. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.000 And I feel like my family's in that place now. 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:04.560 But you only get there when you expose your truth, 0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:07.839 when you're vulnerable enough to show people who you are 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:10.480 and they love you anyway, then you know that you 0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.040 are worthy of unconditional love. 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.480 But I think your father proved that. You know, just 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:19.279 because somebody provibes Ferm doesn't meet them. He's an actual. 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.399 Yeah, he's a big essing to be learned. That's right, 0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:22.120 that's right. 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.440 And it's even like people will say like, well, do 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:26.800 you know who your biological father is? And I'm still 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.680 wrapping my head honestly around that language. 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:30.640 Like do you want to know who the donor is? 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:31.880 I was literally about to do. 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:32.840 I'm searching. 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.880 I'm looking, and again not because I need a daddy, 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.719 right Like, I'm not looking for an emotional connection. I'm 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:41.839 really open. I mean I say that now, who knows? 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:43.920 Once you never know, Like you could walk in the 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.040 room and I can be like, ah, But I think 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.920 I'm just really curious about that fifty percent of me, 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:51.840 that genetic fifty percent of me. 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.279 I think there is a question. I know what I've 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:55.320 gotten from my dad. 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.920 I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor, 0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:03.040 my imagination and my belief in the impossible, my ability 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.279 to tell a story. I know what I've gotten from 0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:11.719 my mom, my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion. 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.480 I don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.520 curious what part comes from him. And I'm curious just 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:19.080 in terms of my medical history. I feel like I 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.319 owe that to my kids that they should know where 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.879 they come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:25.600 open to let it be what it's going to be. 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.719 Maybe it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.479 just feel like I have additional information. I feel good 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:33.000 either way. 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.600 Can we with something you said in the epilogue and 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:37.200 I feel like it can relate to so many people. 0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:39.640 You say, my life is not about my donor, nor 0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:42.359 about my parents. My life is my own. What does 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:44.600 that mean to you? And what could that mean to others? 0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:49.799 Yeah, So when my parents told me this information, I realized, 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:54.360 because they had built this narrative, this false narrative about 0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:57.680 where I came from, I realized that in many ways 0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:02.160 I had been the supporting care character in their story 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.319 right like they were living this life. They were Earl 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:08.680 and Valerie, parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.840 black family, like I was the supporting character in that fable. 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:17.080 And when they gave me the truth, I felt like 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:19.960 part of why I wanted to write the book was 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.280 that it was time for me to step into being 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.360 the lead character in the story of my life, to 0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:28.360 not let my life belong to them, to say, like 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:31.680 I deserve to be on this journey, this quest because 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:33.840 I have my own story. Like, I get it, you 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.560 had four decades of living this your way. But it's 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.680 my turn to kind of take this narrative and figure 0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.720 out what my life means for me. So I love 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:44.920 my parents. I do love being a supporting character in 0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:46.840 their life, but that has to be a choice. I 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.959 have to know that fundamentally my life is my own 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:54.080 and that they Because I have the most incredible parents, 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:58.280 they now have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.840 be supporting characters in my set. And a lot of 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:04.240 what I've learned about parenting has been about that choice 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:07.920 on their part, because they have allowed themselves to be 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.560 supporting characters for me in this moment, which is humbling 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.360 for all of us, with them in particular. Right and 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:16.880 as I look forward at my kids, I realize this 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.240 is my moment. Like this book, I am the protagonist 0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:21.680 of this book, but I'm also the supporting character in 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.200 the story of my kids, and I want them to 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:26.080 know that I have their back and that they have 0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.640 to live their own life. They shouldn't be living in 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.040 the ways that make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.760 choices that are for my own good. They have to 0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:35.720 make the right choices for them in the way that 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:37.200 I'm making the right choices for me. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.160 Now, well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, Thick, 0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:42.320 because when water is out right now, Yes. 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:44.080 We'll come see us on tour. We're going to be 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:48.480 in Chicago, DC, Atlanta, LA. 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:52.040 I'm going to be in conversation with Gabrielle Union, Tyler Perry, Fellow, Me, 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:53.080 young Tony Goldwyn. 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.360 It's an incredible lineup. So come see us out on 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:55.720 the road. 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:57.240 Get her out of here. She's holding in a cough. 0:58:57.360 --> 0:58:57.720 That's right. 0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:05.840 Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. 0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:09.640 Your mornings will never be the same. Are you someone 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.200 who knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality, 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:13.760 someone who lives. 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:15.880 Large in life and in the bedroom. 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:19.480 Then live large and now dinner with new Magnum Raw condoms, 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.400 the thinnest Magnum condom available. 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:22.760 Where condoms are sold. 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:26.160 Make sure you're telling them to watch out of Florida. 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.280 The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in 0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:31.680 all of Floridas. 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.240 Yes, you are a donkey. 0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:38.440 The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.800 It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:41.200 after death. 0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.040 He says he rigs the Dolord to his home in 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:45.520 an attempt to electric hid his pregnant White police. 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:46.160 Arrested in Orlando. 0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.800 Man we're talking to Fromlida the breakfast club bench Donkey 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:51.760 of the day with Charlam Hayne to Gud, I don't 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.200 know why y'all keep you letting him get y'all like, well, do. 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.520 All this your own people, Okay, donkey today goes the 0:59:56.600 --> 1:00:01.040 Renee don Scotland. I know I pronounced their last time. Okay, 1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:03.360 but Renee is from Florida, ladies and gettlemen. And what 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:05.560 does your uncle Shala always say about the great state 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.240 of Florida. The craziest people in America come from the 1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.560 Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:10.920 Okay. 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.320 Renee is thirty years old and she will spend two 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.040 years under community control which is a form of house arrest, 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:18.240 eight years on probation, and will have to pay a 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:21.320 fine of more than seventeen grand And personally, I don't 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:23.360 think that is enough. In fact, I think she should 1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:26.360 get actual prison time. Why Uncle Shawla, why are you 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:28.000 wishing prison time on this woman. 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:30.680 Well, let's go to Fox thirteen Tampa for the report. Please. 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.760 South Dakota resident Rede Skogland is far from home and 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:39.760 illegal hot water that even surprised the judge. 1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:41.600 This is really unbelievable. 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:45.480 Skogland's trail of lies started well, she decided to come 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:48.480 to Tampa Bay and cheat on her husband. 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:52.000 That she felt guilty about this due to her marital status, 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:55.280 and she wanted to get checked her sexual transmitted diseases, but. 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:58.840 She wanted to get tested for free, so she decided 1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:02.200 to call nine on Cogland made up a story about 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:05.200 having car trouble and pulling over on the side of 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:05.600 the road. 1:01:05.760 --> 1:01:07.760 Owed an unknown milk approached her. 1:01:08.360 --> 1:01:11.600 Because her face was covered, she couldn't describe her attacker. 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:15.440 When police checked her cell phone and found this Walmart 1:01:15.520 --> 1:01:20.920 surveillance video, Scogland find the rope herself. She confessed to 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:24.120 making the whole thing up. She was charged with making 1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:27.840 a false police report and decided to take a plea deal. 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.160 She not even from Florida. She from South Dakota, came 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:31.880 to Florida and became a Florida fool. Because it was 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:33.840 in the water all right, this woman made up a 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:37.520 false rape report in Florida to get a free STD test. 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:39.320 Let's just sit here for a second and take that 1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:42.160 in you, like my Paula Santo, Just think about. 1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:45.640 That Renee made up a false rape report. 1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:48.520 In Florida to get a free STD test. 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:51.320 Huh believe all women? Huh define all? 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:53.560 Okay, that's what we should have asked when that foolish 1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:55.760 ass slogan became part of all lexicon. 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:56.720 What do you mean by all? 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.840 Because women like Renee can't possibly be under the umbrella 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:00.800 all correct? 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.080 I have so many questions. Why didn't she just go 1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:04.040 to the clinic? Okay? 1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:06.240 I did some research, and by research I mean Google, 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:08.720 and all I did was type in free STD testing 1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:11.720 in Florida. It's a whole website called safe for STD 1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:13.920 testing dot com. It tells you all the clinics that 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.320 are near you. It says right here if you're looking 1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:19.240 for cheap STD testing clinics in the state of Florida 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.520 to get an HIV, herpes, committee, a gonnery, a syphilis, 1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.000 or a hepatitis screening for yourself or your partner, you can 1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:28.120 get tested today by selecting an option below to find 1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:31.800 an affordable STD test clinic near you. Same day STD 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:35.240 testing locations also available with results in one to two days. 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:37.280 Why didn't you just go to a free clinic? Now? 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.480 Renee at the time was married and she lied about 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:42.400 this sexual assault in attempt to get a free STD 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:46.520 test after she had a one night stand in Tampa, 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:50.360 so she cheated on her husband, felt guilty about it, 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:52.240 so she decided to go get checked out for a 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:55.720 STD and instead of just going to a doctor or clinic, 1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:58.080 she decided to lie about being a rape so she 1:02:58.120 --> 1:02:59.760 could get a free STD test. 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:03.160 Renee, what was your plan? B? Okay? 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:05.960 If that was plan A? What was planned B? This 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:08.240 couldn't have been the only plan. Not to mention, you 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.240 lied about a rape claim so you could get a 1:03:10.280 --> 1:03:12.320 free SDD test. So clearly you hard. 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:14.800 On money, but you had money to buy rope. 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:17.760 We looked it up. The hollow braided rope that she 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:19.200 bought is twenty two dollars. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:19.800 Okay? 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:22.560 How much is an STD test in Florida? According to Google, 1:03:22.640 --> 1:03:24.920 the cost of STD tests will vary by location and 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:28.040 test type. Some clinics, usually community or nonprofit clinics, are 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:30.760 for free. Are low cost testing labs clinics and at 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:33.560 home testing companies may accept insurance to cover a lower 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:36.320 your cost of testing and lab testing fees ranged from 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:39.680 eight dollars to one hundred and fifty dollars. You had 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:41.800 money for an STD test, Okay, I saw other sources 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:44.240 say that the STD test in Florida it's fifty five dollars. 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:47.440 The test covered syphilis and HIV, commydia goneria. Herpe's test 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:49.800 forty five dollars. All I'm saying is if you had 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:51.880 money for ROPE, you could have gotten some money for 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:54.560 STD test. Hell, you had money to travel from South 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:58.520 Dakota to Tampa to Creep in the first place. Okay, Renee, 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.840 what about condoms? But you too can get free from 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.000 the clinic? All right, two words for you, Renee, planned parenthood. 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:07.760 They can help you get condoms and other birth control 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:10.640 methods for free. If that ware inflation is taking us 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:14.760 now where people can't even afford to cheat, what happened 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:16.440 to the good old day when you know you got 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:19.520 an STD and blamed it on your significant other. We 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:21.960 used to be a country. We are getting away from 1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:25.880 traditional values. Not to mention you, nasty, Renee, Not only 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:28.920 are you a despicable human who would lie about being raped. 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:34.320 You slept with your little side piece unprotected, bad back. Shimmy, 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:37.360 shimmy yah, shimmy, Yeah, shimmy yan. You fought bad knuckle 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.360 in the club and thought you lost. That's why you 1:04:39.400 --> 1:04:42.520 went to go get in that detest. Okay, lock this 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:44.560 woman up, all right, put her under the jail. There's 1:04:44.560 --> 1:04:46.640 too many women out here who are real victims, who 1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:49.320 actually are dealing with the real trauma of being sexually assaulted. 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:51.600 And you out here lying simply because you cheated on 1:04:51.640 --> 1:04:53.440 your husband and did the raw Dog. 1:04:53.280 --> 1:04:54.720 Roulette with another man. 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:55.520 Huh. 1:04:56.040 --> 1:05:00.720 Please give Renee Dawn starglawn biggest sea haft. 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:07.040 What a world we live in? Man? 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:09.240 Mm hmmm wild. 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:12.360 You want to play a game? I do? All right, 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:16.000 Let's play a game of guess what race is? 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:23.040 Don Goglawn from South Dakota traveled all the way to Temple, Florida, 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:25.160 so she could do the raw Dog Roulette with a 1:05:25.240 --> 1:05:27.840 side piece. Thought she called an STD, so she lied 1:05:27.840 --> 1:05:31.160 about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Mona, 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.160 guess what race is? 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:37.000 She is a Caucasian from the Coffeest Mountain. 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:40.800 One of your Coop's finest creations. 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:51.960 Mona says, Jesus, okay, dj NB, well don't call me 1:05:52.040 --> 1:05:55.800 white girl. And dj NB, yes, sir, you're both correct. 1:05:55.920 --> 1:06:03.240 Renee is cau. She got made by y'all. Cool on 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:03.720 her ass. 1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:09.919 She jesus right, what did I win? Nothing? Nothing? Anyway nothing. 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:13.880 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast. 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:19.520 Club owning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne, the gud. We 1:06:19.560 --> 1:06:22.040 are the Breakfast Club. Laura La Ross is our special guests, 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:25.000 and we have Omar Epp said, but also ebonie K 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:27.640 Williams will be joining us next hour, and we talked 1:06:27.640 --> 1:06:30.320 about some statements that she said, and Laura La Ross 1:06:30.440 --> 1:06:32.320 was talking about a lot of people were very passionate. 1:06:32.360 --> 1:06:33.960 So she's here to discuss. So if you want to 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:36.640 talk to Ebonie K Williams, she's going to be joining us, 1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:38.280 you could get on the phone lines right now eight 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:40.760 hundred five eight five, one oh five to one. But 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:43.200 right now, let's get back into our conversation with Omar Epps. 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:45.000 All right, Charlomagne, you know I love what you just 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:47.600 said about the movies because I think about it even 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:49.280 with a series like this, because I saw you said 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.680 you wish this book existed when you were a child. 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:52.000 Yeah. 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.400 I don't know when the series is going to end, 1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:56.680 but endings are very important because I think a lot 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:58.960 of times in this art we talk about the problems, 1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:01.240 but we never talk about the solutions, and it never 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:02.480 seems to be a happy ending. 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:03.560 Whether it's Ben Into. 1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:07.240 Society, Boys in the Hood, whatever it was, Juice, there's 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:08.320 really no happy ending. 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:12.720 Well, I think maybe because they're trying to teach a 1:07:12.760 --> 1:07:15.560 certain lesson, a certain angle of the lesson, you know, 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:19.200 and then that's making me think about certain songs where like, yeah, 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.919 they're not showing the glamorous part, they showing the other part, 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.360 Like we used to seeing the rich and poles and 1:07:24.400 --> 1:07:26.120 all of them and all of that fly stuff, but 1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:28.400 they're not showing you the heartache that comes along. 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:30.440 And so I think things are necessary. 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:33.440 With Nubia, I do have the ending, but it also 1:07:33.640 --> 1:07:39.320 is an entry way into film, television, animation, everything you 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:39.880 could think of. 1:07:40.040 --> 1:07:42.520 I have story points that we want to hit. 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:48.520 So it's essentially I've created my own universe that hopefully 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:50.120 one day can be akin to like Marvel. 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:52.960 That's what pains me about the Nubia series, though, because 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:55.400 I love science fiction and I do feel like it 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:57.160 needs to be a film, a TV show. I don't 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:59.400 know if Hollywood will ever make a real investment into 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:01.480 Side far I led by black people. 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:03.280 I'm not waiting on Hollywood. Okay. 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:05.280 If I was waiting on Hollywood, the book would have 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.920 never been written. Absolutely, So we're gonna We're gonna do 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:11.000 what we do, which is find a way. You know, hey, 1:08:11.080 --> 1:08:14.200 we made a delicacy out of the scraps, meaning they 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:18.960 threw us big intestines and we made. 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:20.000 And we made them so good? 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:22.360 Did you make me a plate? 1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:26.080 This is what we do, so hopefully it is in 1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:28.080 my lifetime. I mean, this is what I'm doing it for. 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:32.280 But you know, there's when I say there's more of us, 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:33.599 I'm not talking about a color. 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:36.840 I mean like minded. They're more like minded. 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.240 People than what we see portrayed in the news and 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:40.519 the blogs and stuff like that. 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:44.200 So when people put their money where their mouth is 1:08:44.240 --> 1:08:44.960 and really. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:48.479 Support one another, then it enables us to go to 1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:50.760 those next levels to where we don't have to be 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:53.200 fully dependent on other systems. 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:53.679 Absolutely. 1:08:53.760 --> 1:08:55.360 Now, the three main characters of the book, I don't 1:08:55.360 --> 1:08:59.160 want to say their names wrong and bery thank you. 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:00.680 So they are of. 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:03.559 This first generation to discover these powers. Yes, when I 1:09:03.560 --> 1:09:05.080 read about that part of it, it made me think 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:07.479 about like just being first generation coming from certain like 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:09.759 you know, like I'm first generation college student or whatever, 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:12.240 and you realize that you really can be put in 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:13.360 a dark room and find the light. 1:09:13.640 --> 1:09:13.880 Right. 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:16.519 What is the message in this book to. 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:20.599 The first generation of anything, like the students, the kids, 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:22.160 the you know, I'm first generation to go to college 1:09:22.200 --> 1:09:23.400 and first generation to buy a house. 1:09:23.520 --> 1:09:24.880 What messages millionaires? 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:27.599 Yeah, like what do they take away from this from 1:09:27.640 --> 1:09:28.080 this book? 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.400 I mean there's a lot of things that takes I 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:34.040 think the one of the main themes for me is 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:35.479 the idea of unity. 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:38.120 You know, cats ull spend twenty. 1:09:37.920 --> 1:09:40.120 Five hundred dollars on a belt because it has a 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:44.160 certain name on it. But if envy shirt kings or 1:09:44.240 --> 1:09:46.320 like food bing them back in the day, supreme in 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:48.439 them back in the day, they say, Yo, the belts 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:49.680 five hundred dollars, we like. 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:51.880 From you your brand, Right, I'm. 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:55.559 Gonna go spend triple over there, same quality, right, And 1:09:55.600 --> 1:09:58.160 then you elevate and you be like, oh, they make 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:00.600 all of these bags and stuff in the same factories, 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:05.200 same material, same everything. But because we're blinded by a name, 1:10:05.840 --> 1:10:09.880 which comes with a perception, we don't know how to 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:13.040 stand for. I was like, no, we have the spending dollars, 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:16.559 so we're gonna spend here. It really matters. And let 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:20.320 as killer Mike's loop always talks about keeping a dollar 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:24.639 circulating amongst us first before it goes out right. So 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:28.559 the theme of unity on every level. And the other 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:31.200 thing I really want the young reader to take away 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:34.559 is all the answers are already inside of you. I 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:37.800 think we're born into this world in perfect harmony and 1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:40.320 in perfect balance. Like if we look at the creation, 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:44.400 the world as we know it, everything that's alive is 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:49.240 like an instrument, and it's this magnificent symphony, and everything 1:10:49.320 --> 1:10:52.479 plays apart, from an aunt to an elephant to a tree. 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:55.840 Everything plays apart. The only thing that seems to be 1:10:55.880 --> 1:10:59.479 playing out of tune is human beings. We're the ones 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:02.400 playing out to playing the wrong notes. So I say 1:11:02.400 --> 1:11:05.840 that to say that the answers are already inside right, 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:10.960 They already are permeating through you physiologically and spiritually. Part 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:13.439 of the conundrum of life is to then you sort 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:17.200 of unlearn what is innately in you product of environment 1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:19.360 schooling all of these things, and then you. 1:11:19.280 --> 1:11:22.559 Spend your latter life unlearning that to get back. 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:23.040 To the source. 1:11:23.280 --> 1:11:26.720 So I imagine a world where right now college is a 1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:29.439 four year process. What if one day college is a 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:31.960 year process. What could that person do with that other 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:34.680 three years in terms of being productive? And if you 1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:37.320 put a bunch of those type of people together, I mean, 1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:40.480 we're still modeling over I don't know, Twitter and Facebook. 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:43.240 It's like I ain't caring cancer though, you know what 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:43.719 I mean. 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:45.439 What happened? 1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:48.200 What do we do in a world where like thailandov 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:50.760 do you cancer? Nont matter what kind? Oh just go 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:52.400 to pharmacy. That's fot dollars, ain't nothing. 1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:56.080 Imagine how much more productive we could be as a species. 1:11:56.760 --> 1:11:59.600 Like the fact that we're in twoenty twenty four and 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:02.160 people still hung up on skin color. And again I 1:12:02.160 --> 1:12:04.840 don't mean white black, this is light skinned dolphins stuff. 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:07.280 Oh that's some licenseduff. You know, Me and Moly did 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:07.439 with that. 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:09.559 And all the time you call. 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:12.120 It here it is. 1:12:13.600 --> 1:12:15.799 His fault. And every time. 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:19.000 Ever give you. 1:12:21.360 --> 1:12:24.400 Charlamage does the same thing, And I say his complexion. 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:27.559 They attacked me, but he called me beige, rage, beige, beige, 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.280 everything under the suns because of you. 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:32.759 But if I say black anything to him, yeah. 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:33.240 You can't do it. 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:37.000 Why I'm black, but what you are black exactly? So 1:12:37.080 --> 1:12:37.599 what's the problem. 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:39.040 But this is what I'm talking about, the. 1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:41.919 Fact that even a Dominican, I'm not Dominican. 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:45.880 Stop it, better stop claim stop it. Charla Mane, I 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:46.479 gotta s here. 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:49.760 You look more Dominican than thank you. You've been to 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:50.679 Washington Heights Lanting. 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:57.600 What Omar said is so true, and it's amazing to 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:00.559 me that most things that are man made take you 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:01.240 out of alignment. 1:13:01.640 --> 1:13:01.840 Yep. 1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:04.960 And I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense though, right, 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.040 it does make sense. That's why when people get caught 1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:10.519 up in this AI, I'm like, it's been made so 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:12.200 the flaws in it, we just can't see it. 1:13:12.240 --> 1:13:14.479 Yet. It ain't nothing to trip over, you know what 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:16.200 I mean. And it's about. 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:18.639 Being in tune with who we are and who we're 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:21.040 here to be and what is our purpose? And our 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:24.719 purpose is to spread love and spread positive energy. And 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:27.559 you get to a point where we all are we 1:13:27.640 --> 1:13:30.320 still have ambition, We still have drive, but we pushing. 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:32.559 It's a hell of a thing to be pushing for 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:36.280 yourself and then push for others. When you're pushing for others, 1:13:36.320 --> 1:13:39.280 now you're really serving your purpose. And it's a really 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:43.360 it's a fulfillment that no dollar amount could fill. When 1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:46.839 just passing off the information or the knowledge to someone 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:50.400 and then go and see them walk, run and then fly. 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:53.960 It's just a feeling that to me, this is what 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:56.639 life is about. One of the grand themes that life 1:13:56.720 --> 1:13:57.080 is about. 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:58.400 Oh, I get the less I want. 1:13:58.560 --> 1:14:00.839 Here you go, you know, because things that I actually 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:04.080 want money can't buy or not superficially, you go in 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:04.800 shape or form. 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:05.280 There you go. 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:07.240 All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:08.880 come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. 1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:11.479 Good morning, the Breakfast. 1:14:10.920 --> 1:14:16.800 Club, puting everybody. It's DJ n V, Charlamagne, the Gods. 1:14:16.840 --> 1:14:18.800 We are the Breakfast Club. We have Laura la Rossa here, 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.200 our special guest host. Still kicking with Omar Epps. But 1:14:21.320 --> 1:14:23.840 you having three kids, would you want your three kids 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.400 to be in the industry acting or music? Would you 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:29.639 want them seeing what you've seen? Because you've seen behind 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:32.479 the scenes, you pull the curtain back, So would you want. 1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:33.080 Them to do that? 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:37.439 I mean, I'm human, so I think whatever whatever it is, 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:40.080 I don't care if you race car drive them Mechannon 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:42.640 must drought like we all want our kids to do 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:45.040 something other than what be great, Yeah, I mean, be 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:47.400 great at that thing. But underneath it all, I just 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:49.760 want them to follow their passion, you know, whatever brings 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.519 them joy. If it's you know, our youngest daughter, she's 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:55.280 a singer songwriter, that's her gift. But she's putting in 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:57.519 the work for it. And that's the main thing. You know, 1:14:57.880 --> 1:15:00.240 nothing's gonna come to you easy. But if you putting 1:15:00.240 --> 1:15:02.439 in the work for it and that's your passion, I'm 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:02.840 behind it. 1:15:03.040 --> 1:15:03.720 See. It's good. 1:15:03.720 --> 1:15:06.200 It's good in situations like that because mom and dad 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:09.560 have been there, so you can guide where maybe you 1:15:09.680 --> 1:15:11.400 didn't have that guy because maybe your mom didn't know 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:12.960 how to look at contracts and look know what to 1:15:13.040 --> 1:15:14.479 look for, you know. I mean, so it's good that 1:15:14.600 --> 1:15:16.519 you're there, but it's just, you know, it's it's a 1:15:16.560 --> 1:15:18.479 difficult thing because you're like, damn distressed that I went 1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:20.280 through dealing with this in the industry. 1:15:20.479 --> 1:15:22.720 Yeah, but you know what, what you're saying is right 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:26.200 in that sense, but realistically it's a totally different world 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:30.439 because this is a completely different universe from selling a 1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:34.160 physical record to a stream and the business in between that. Correct, 1:15:34.160 --> 1:15:36.040 it's a whole different world. So it's like, yeah, your 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:39.439 moms did that, but not like this is. 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:42.240 She like, are you guys like managing? 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:43.160 Yeah? 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:44.920 Like you A mom's not right here. 1:15:47.800 --> 1:15:57.400 She's a heavy handed advisor. That's what's your. 1:15:57.360 --> 1:16:00.559 Favorite method of storytelling is the TV, the films, books. 1:16:00.760 --> 1:16:03.559 It depends on the story, you know, Like like when 1:16:03.560 --> 1:16:07.839 I was thinking of Nubia, I saw film, I saw television, 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:10.120 I saw all these things, but I knew that's not 1:16:10.200 --> 1:16:12.439 the delivery system. Right now, you know what I'm saying, 1:16:12.439 --> 1:16:14.439 You're gonna have to crawl through this process. Crawl and 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:17.280 meaning a good thing. Like there's just so much story 1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:20.600 this that the depth of the story can only be 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:24.200 done in book form in its initial phase. Once that's 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:26.960 established to an audience and they're familiar with, oh yeah, 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:29.760 that's the blah blah blah, then we can take it 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:32.720 other places. And so we're still in this is phase one, 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:36.439 if you will. But other than that, I just love 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.040 art man. It doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:41.240 think there's an art to cook, and there's an art 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:41.759 to everything. 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:42.839 There's a art to business. 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:43.560 You know. 1:16:43.640 --> 1:16:46.000 It just depends on you know, what you connect to 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:47.120 and what makes you happy. 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:50.800 And for me, the prime goal is to is is 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:55.000 like I've realized the weight of everything that I'm a 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:59.160 part of is gonna outlast me. So why am I 1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:02.040 really doing this? Who am I doing it with? It's 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:04.400 not just a self fulfilling thing anymore, you know what 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:08.280 I mean. Like the greatest compliments to this day, the 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:11.519 greatest compliments that I received was when people come up 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:14.080 to me and say something that I was. 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:17.479 In, you know, helped them through or inspired them to 1:17:17.600 --> 1:17:19.479 I had a young. 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:22.240 Doctor come up to me and was talking about a 1:17:22.280 --> 1:17:24.080 show that I was on, medical shows on and they 1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:26.960 were just like the portrayal of that character helped them 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:28.840 through a tough time while they were in med school 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:31.240 ready to give up. And to me, that was like 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:33.800 getting a million dollar check because I'm like, this is 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:36.599 exactly what I do it for, you know what I mean? 1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:39.880 Like to be able to pass on what was passed 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:40.200 on to me. 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:41.720 I really didn't want to know how you wrap your 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:43.800 mind around what's going on in twenty ninety eight. 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:45.960 I mean, it's to me, it's simple. 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:49.960 I think humans are going to human and then geographically 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:54.759 like again, whatever happens in the next twenty thirty years. 1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:56.840 There's going to be a world after that. So that's 1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:57.679 creative license. 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:01.280 Well it kind of looking at I mean, sadly, if 1:18:01.320 --> 1:18:03.400 we take a cue from what happened with Sandy, the 1:18:03.479 --> 1:18:06.320 lower part of the city would be underwater, and then 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:08.519 same rules apply. 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:11.000 Where's all the money at now uptown? 1:18:11.479 --> 1:18:13.320 All right, let's ramp that up a little bit. 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:16.560 More humans are fused with technology. Let's you know, you 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:18.160 get to take creative license. 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:21.000 But the more things change, the more they stay the same. 1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:22.400 Man, you know what I'm saying. 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:24.720 Like in the hood, everybody want to talk about new 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:27.800 world or order. No, it's one world order. That's the 1:18:27.920 --> 1:18:30.840 actual term. And that's been for thousands of years. There's 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.880 always going to be a group of few that try 1:18:32.960 --> 1:18:36.160 to control the many. It ain't nothing new. There's no conspiracy. 1:18:36.200 --> 1:18:38.200 It's right there, dead in front of your face. It's 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:40.200 just how you perceive it, you know what I mean. 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:44.360 But there's something to perceive as well, is that the 1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:48.160 victory's already won, and whether the listeners, whether you're a 1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:51.599 believer or not. I'm not, you know, putting my beliefs 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:55.439 on anyone. I'm a believer. And the victory's already won. 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:59.479 The table of victory with the most beneficent is already set. 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:02.040 So there's a part of us that we're gone through 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:05.719 the motions. Choose your side, choose wisely, and live your life. 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:06.640 And your character is. 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:09.360 Determined by your actions period, you know what I mean. 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:12.439 So you know, hopefully when it's my time, my actions 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:14.719 will be met by the eternal glory. 1:19:14.880 --> 1:19:16.960 You play so many iconic roles, does it ever body 1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:19.360 with Somebody calls you wanted the names from the iconic role, 1:19:19.520 --> 1:19:20.200 like I'm. 1:19:20.040 --> 1:19:21.320 Sure you walk down the horns like you. 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:27.360 I love it. No, no, no, that doesn't bother me 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:27.640 at all. 1:19:27.680 --> 1:19:33.559 I'm when people call me like yo, Mac, I'm like, that's. 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:34.519 My man's and all that. 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:37.720 But I know we look alike, they say, but come on, 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:44.960 bron like Mike, Like Mike, that's correct. 1:19:45.400 --> 1:19:50.680 Well I'm like, come on, yo, Like that's the like, 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:51.639 where is this happening? 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:53.639 Like it's just random? 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:56.280 Like sometimes I wonder if people are just It's like 1:19:56.320 --> 1:19:57.800 if someone saw you, and they're like. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:19:58.680 Oh, I know that. 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:08.120 Somebody Marschner, but nobody have heard. Mars Chestner said that. 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:10.320 You know what the chess and I said, somebody called 1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:11.559 him Charlamage on JENNI budget. 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:12.680 So you said he gets mistaken for me? 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:14.160 That's God, damn lie. 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:16.600 Do you see tell me? 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:21.120 God? 1:20:23.240 --> 1:20:26.479 Why are you upset if you signed Dominican in him? 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:26.920 Do you see it? 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:30.080 Knock it off? Definitely? Yeah. I gotta take him up 1:20:30.080 --> 1:20:32.040 to Washingtonians. Gotta go. 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:35.120 Now we demate about who your favorite, who the best 1:20:35.760 --> 1:20:37.840 character was? I think your best role with Jay Reed 1:20:38.479 --> 1:20:40.360 and Too Deep. I think that's a very slept on roll. 1:20:41.280 --> 1:20:42.479 How about I haven't done it yet? 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:47.280 Oh okay, well there you have it. 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