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Speaker 1: Way way white.

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Speaker 2: You guys really are like the hip hop early morning

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Speaker 2: late night talk.

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Speaker 3: To the Breakfast Club is the most powerful popular urban

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Speaker 3: radio show. Maybe like from the Black Mothership in New

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Speaker 3: York City, it's DJ MV and Charlemagne to God.

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Speaker 4: It's different, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all know

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Speaker 4: what y'all talking about.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, y'all be Black five.

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Speaker 6: I love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Collectively known as Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 7: So I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club

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Speaker 7: because sometimes you say stuff and it's just gonna get

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Speaker 7: you in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, what wait, this is your time to get it

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Speaker 3: off your chest.

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Speaker 1: She's calling eight hundred and five eighty five one O

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Speaker 1: five one. You want to hear from you on the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club? Hello? Who's this?

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Speaker 8: Jay?

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Speaker 1: Jay?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 6: Where you calling them from?

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Speaker 1: Brother?

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 9: I'm calling from bloody Mississippi?

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Speaker 11: Jay?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 9: King?

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Speaker 1: Get it off your chest? Brother?

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 9: I'm just calling as I drive truck for a living

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Speaker 9: and I'm still downtied of traffic, bro, traffic, it's just disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of traffic in Mississis.

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Speaker 9: No I run the corridor that I corridor over New

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Speaker 9: Orleans and uh Houston as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you're going to major cities, New Orleans

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Speaker 2: and Houston. Ain't no jokes, I get it. Just be patient, man,

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Speaker 2: and don't drive that truck like you're driving a car.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand when people driving back trucks like they're

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Speaker 2: driving a little electric car or something, little hondai.

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Speaker 1: Remember you've got a truck.

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Speaker 12: I tried.

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Speaker 9: I tried to drive for myself, for others as well

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Speaker 9: as myself.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, Jay, do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: What's that blow that had?

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Speaker 10: Jay?

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 9: Oh man, I can't do it. I'm in the residential

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Speaker 9: area right now.

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Speaker 1: I can't come on, jaim in trouble. Don't you blow

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Speaker 1: that horn?

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Speaker 2: JA, don't wake the people up, j don't you do that?

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Speaker 2: Come on, j J Jay, think about the people. Think

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Speaker 2: about the people. JA that's sleeping right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I wouldn't want anybody to do it for me,

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Speaker 9: so I can't do it.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I respect that, Jay, do the right thing, even when

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Speaker 2: nobody looks not respect that.

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Speaker 8: Let's make the whole noise with your mount jacobye dam

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Speaker 8: of course, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: To say that, Yo, this Monday, man, what's up, Mello?

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Speaker 9: What's up? MV?

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Speaker 12: I need to bring Charlemagne and you to the front

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Speaker 12: of the congregation, because never did y'all call us the

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Speaker 12: king of R and B like Chris browns don't good?

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Speaker 12: Like are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown?

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Speaker 2: Listen, we salute Chris Brown, but Chris Brown would even

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Speaker 2: tell you otherwise.

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Speaker 12: Brother, Yeah, because you gotta say that, you feel me.

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Speaker 12: You're supposed to train to your idols, become your rifles,

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Speaker 12: And I'm sorry he's done a passion like that. That's

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Speaker 12: just not TRUEY won't say I will Chris Brown. Chris

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Speaker 12: Brown is the king.

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Speaker 1: Of R and B like respect Chris Brown?

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Speaker 2: Chris Does Chris Brown have an album as good as

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Speaker 2: eighty seven oh one? Does he have an album as

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Speaker 2: good as Confessions?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I'm all right, Confession that was okay? But respectfully, anything

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Speaker 13: that Breezy got me real. He may have vocal talent

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Speaker 13: over him, but Breezy got basically everything else. That's the

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Speaker 13: only thing I could give him.

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Speaker 1: Mellow, I just disagree, Mellow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I argue with you this morning, arguing mellow,

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Speaker 2: And it's not a disrespect to christ Brown.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown is great.

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Speaker 2: We got to start backing like she's just not on

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Speaker 2: the whole other level.

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Speaker 1: Than a lot of people. Man, Hello, who's this?

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Speaker 14: Hi?

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, mama, get it off your chest?

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Speaker 15: Good morning.

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Speaker 5: I feel blessed.

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Speaker 15: I just came from the casino, and I came.

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Speaker 6: What casino?

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Speaker 1: Where you at?

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Speaker 12: I'm on Queen's.

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Speaker 15: I went to the research for pino.

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Speaker 1: Oh, how much you want congratulate?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: As long as I can hold someone to ask you.

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Speaker 17: Girl, I'll be having it. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do with that money? Something? The first

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Speaker 1: right round the corner, the first, the next.

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Speaker 8: Week, next week, all right, mama, well enjoy, have a

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Speaker 8: great week with that bread YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye? Now, Hello, who's this? All right?

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Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?

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Speaker 8: Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If

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Speaker 8: you need the event, hit us up now. It's the

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Speaker 8: Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 16: Right right, ray, Yo, charlat man, Daffy, what up are

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Speaker 16: we live?

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Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 16: I got an indoor pool pool.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 16: Get on the phone right now, here to tell you

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Speaker 16: what it is?

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Speaker 2: We live?

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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this? Yeah? There's it going? Man? God, God,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 6: Get it off your chest while he sounds some damn.

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Speaker 14: Brother, No, I ain't dying, just woke up. Man.

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Speaker 6: By the summer, your Uber ship where you do ber at?

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Speaker 1: I thought? He said? He smoking. I was like, God, damn,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get your life together, he said, Uber when you.

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Speaker 6: Do uber at bro in Brooklyn on Brooklyn?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Is it is it true that Uber takes like what

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Speaker 8: forty percent of what you make?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 9: I don't think the ride popped up with in screen.

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Speaker 18: You just accept it and you can get all the money

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Speaker 18: from the screen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what anybody be complaining about. And we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother, no doubt.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate your tea.

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Speaker 18: But yeah, I just want to let all the drivers

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Speaker 18: know when they'll be on the road, stop with these

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Speaker 18: emotional turns. I'ab be making the bike lane is to

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Speaker 18: the right every time you drive. Every time is a

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Speaker 18: driver in front of another driver and they're trying to

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Speaker 18: get around, they always make these emotional turn try to

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Speaker 18: get around the driver in front of them, And I'm

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Speaker 18: always to the right. Drivers, We are to your right,

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Speaker 18: stop with the emotional turns. They're going to hurt somebody. Okay,

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Speaker 18: all right, Oh thank you man, no doubt, man, I

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Speaker 18: have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Bless sir, you too.

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Speaker 10: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Who's this?

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Speaker 10: What's your boy?

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Speaker 9: KP from the blog KP.

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Speaker 1: For the BX.

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Speaker 14: What up?

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Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?

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Speaker 10: Bro' telling man, listen, I'm calling because I want to

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Speaker 10: be positive this morning. Like in the next like five

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Speaker 10: six hours, I'm getting ready to get on the Carnival

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Speaker 10: cruise and go on this a day trip to turn

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Speaker 10: Saint Thomas in Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 10: I know it's gonna be a good vibe, right man.

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Speaker 1: Set the vibes early. I like that. Who you taking

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Speaker 1: your wife?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 10: I'm going with the fam like I'm going one of

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Speaker 10: my close best friends and mom, everybody like that, my

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Speaker 10: extended family.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Joy enjoy that, man.

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Speaker 2: Put your put your feet again, put your feet in

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Speaker 2: the saying of turks and kkos.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 10: Yeah nah. In fact, I've been there one time, but

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Speaker 10: only when I was younger, So I know it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be great now that I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 6: Have you been on the cruise before?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Probably, Like nothing. Nothing looks like my ninth time cruise

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Speaker 10: and I've been on a Carnival, Caribbean Disney.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all things. So you're a professional.

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Speaker 8: You know where you need to go, what time you

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Speaker 8: need to go to lunch and dinner, and how to

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Speaker 8: book all little scourges and all that.

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Speaker 1: You're pro after.

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Speaker 10: Nah, that's the shack my grandmother taught me a long

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Speaker 10: time ago. We've been going on for years, so you know,

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Speaker 10: she's not with us no more. But it's something I

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Speaker 10: like to keep doing because you know, it makes me

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Speaker 10: remember her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bro, have a going Hello.

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Speaker 4: Who's this hey?

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Speaker 14: Man Jefferson, Man.

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Speaker 6: Hey Jefferson, good morning. Get it off your chest.

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Speaker 14: Hey, First of all, shout out all Big nine, one four,

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Speaker 14: shout out everybody. Shout out with TJ and V Charlamagne.

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Speaker 14: Everyone there. Look man, black and you're Republican. I don't

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Speaker 14: think that's a bad thing. I just want to get

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Speaker 14: that off my chest, that everyone that black does not

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Speaker 14: have to think democratically or vote democrat. That was it, man.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't. I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, just because you're black and your your

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Speaker 2: you're a black and Republican means that you're a bad person.

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Speaker 2: But I do feel like, you know, sometimes we vote

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Speaker 2: against our own interests.

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Speaker 14: But I don't think the Democrats have the best interest

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Speaker 14: because I feel like they they're promoting us kind of

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Speaker 14: to stay in a system that doesn't really benefit us.

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Speaker 14: In a long call, That's all I'm saying my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with that. Easy. I'm not disagreeing with

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Speaker 1: that either. I do.

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Speaker 2: I do think that we're in some very very very

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Speaker 2: troubling times right now though. And I do see, you know,

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Speaker 2: one party leaning heavy towards fascism. But everybody, listen, man,

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Speaker 2: vote your own interest. That's what I tell folks.

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Speaker 8: Get it off your chest. Eight undrink five eight five

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Speaker 8: one five one. If you need to vent something on

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Speaker 8: your mind, call us up right now. Is the Breakfast

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Speaker 8: Logan Morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 11: Practice. We have offices throughout four of the five boroughs. Generally,

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Speaker 11: we provide care in underserved communities, whether what often called

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Speaker 11: health deserts. There's no hospitals or not many physicians around,

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Speaker 11: and we try and meet patients who need out care

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Speaker 11: Important for people of color to get their heart tested

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Speaker 6: Well, how can people get tested? Not how can they

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Speaker 11: Symptoms of discomfort in your chest, shortness of breath, more

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Speaker 11: that's not nearly as accurate and doesn't define the heart

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Speaker 6: Well, I was going to ask.

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Speaker 8: So you know, you go to the dentists, you have

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Speaker 6: You know, they clean it out, they cut off the polyps.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is.

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Speaker 8: So if there is a problem with your heart, what

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Speaker 2: Talk that talk doctor Pumber, This is good. Just just

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So nationally, Medicare is now approved putting heart stents

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Speaker 6: The stent doesn't stay inside of it. Was just it

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Speaker 11: But it's the most common treatment for blocked arteries in

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to people what causes heart attacks and strokes?

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Speaker 1: Sure, it's a that's a great question.

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Speaker 11: And I think it's not only a great great question,

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Speaker 11: In fact, if you have diabetes, you have a three

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Speaker 8: We have more with doctor Puma when we come back

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Speaker 8: don't move as to Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: Everybody is cj NV charlamagnea god. We are to breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: We're still kicking with doctor Puma.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people in our community are scared to

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Speaker 11: Healthcare should be a right in this country.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason, I agree.

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Speaker 11: There's just no reason why we should treat any not

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Speaker 11: So that's number one.

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Speaker 1: All right, you don't need to go to a doctor.

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Speaker 11: You can go to any pharmacy even and they have

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Speaker 11: They often feel weak, have a brain fog, they just

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Speaker 1: You bring up fear.

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Speaker 11: Fear is a big issue here is a big, big

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Speaker 11: It's it's not like I don't know if you're married

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Speaker 1: You both married. Yeah, my wife. I can't bring that

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Speaker 11: But anyway, but remember like the first time you're pregnant

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Speaker 11: make it easy for them. Okay, explain talk. You know,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so in the carnery artery, so for strokes, if

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Speaker 11: It's the same as if you have high blood pressure

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Speaker 11: you're having stressful time at work, it can cause that

452
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Speaker 11: plaque to rupture and then causes a blood clot And

453
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Speaker 11: that's a big challenge. The reason when when you ask

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Speaker 11: DJ Envy about who should have the scan or you know,

455
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Speaker 11: and we said, even in people who are not symptomatic,

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Speaker 11: if they have risk factors, they should have a scan.

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Speaker 11: Because one in three people that have a heart attack

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Speaker 11: find out they're having they have heart disease the day

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Speaker 11: they have their heart attack, and out of those, one

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Speaker 11: in three die.

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Speaker 1: The day they have their heart attack.

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Speaker 11: So it's it's often unpredictable. So unless you know you

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Speaker 11: have some plaque. Then there are strategies, as we discussed,

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Speaker 11: whether it's statin medications, aspirin counseling to help you maybe

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Speaker 11: stop smoking if you smoke, weight reduction, things of that

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Speaker 11: nature that can help. But heart attacks are I like

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Speaker 11: to think of it this way. You know, if you're

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Speaker 11: having if you're lucky enough to have symptoms, it's kind

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Speaker 11: of like when you're driving your car and the little

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Speaker 11: light goes on, says the tires run and low.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 11: Usually if you're having symptoms or you see that light,

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Speaker 11: you'll attend to it correct so that you don't end

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Speaker 11: up with a blowout, let's say on the highway.

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Speaker 1: That's like a heart attack.

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Speaker 11: But many people don't have symptoms until the day they

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Speaker 11: have their heart attack.

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Speaker 2: And I want to read my results that doctor Saren

479
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Speaker 2: sent me, because y'all send five things after you have

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Speaker 2: the test. It's to images of your coronary heart arteries,

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Speaker 2: your heartflow analysis of the arteries.

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Speaker 1: Right, what is that exactly?

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Speaker 11: So the heartflow analysis is if there is any plaque

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Speaker 11: in the artery, it's a Heartflow is a company based

485
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Speaker 11: in California that has proprietary AI software that can actually

486
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Speaker 11: assess the flow to determine if that plaque, that blockage

487
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Speaker 11: is obstructive needs to be treated with a stent or bypassed,

488
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Speaker 11: or non obstructive needs aggressive medical therapy. It's amazing software.

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Speaker 11: We use it on all our patients. And it's that alone,

490
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Speaker 11: that software alone has been proven to make you to

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Speaker 11: reduce mortality, increases survival by having.

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Speaker 1: The sore and hearts scan with heartflow.

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Speaker 2: And so y'all and y'all send the soaring heart scan

494
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Speaker 2: final report, you send your blood work report. And finally,

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Speaker 2: which I really loved, the ten year risk of cardiovascular

496
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Speaker 2: events which is heart attack, stroke of death. Now this

497
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Speaker 2: is what put my mind at ease. Overall, your results

498
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Speaker 2: are excellent. Despite a high calcium score for your age,

499
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Speaker 2: there's only minimal plaque in your heart arteries.

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Speaker 1: Furthermore, your lipid cholesterol profile, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your cholesterol profile is excellent and well below goal on

502
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Speaker 2: your current statum medication and aspirin, which I would continue.

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Speaker 2: Your blood pressure and heart rate are those of a

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Speaker 2: man twenty years younger. All these factors contribute to a

505
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Speaker 2: very low ten year cardiovascular risk of only three point

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Speaker 2: five percent optimal for men of your age. Would be

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Speaker 2: three percent, so you are in very good shape. That

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Speaker 2: put my mind at my heart within the next fifteen

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Speaker 2: and I think I got those results the next day.

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Speaker 11: That's correct, think, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: So I would flip it back to you.

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Speaker 8: I would definitely like to sign up because I definitely

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Speaker 8: would like to make sure that I'm here for my kids.

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Speaker 6: I have six kids, so I want to make sure

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Speaker 6: I'm here for my kids.

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Speaker 11: You'd be welcome to come and yeah, and I just

517
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Speaker 11: think the access making it easy, right, you know, you

518
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Speaker 11: all are people of means and you know, but it's

519
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Speaker 11: for everybody, and you can and you can really make

520
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Speaker 11: a great impact for people who may have some fear,

521
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Speaker 11: arensure what the entry point is, aren't sure what to do.

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Speaker 11: So I appreciate you inviting me. I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 11: the time and talking about it, and I hope we

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Speaker 11: can help some people.

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Speaker 1: And where can they get more information? I'll reach you directly.

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Speaker 11: On our website so or in medical ny dot com.

527
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Speaker 11: We're on Instagram. I've never been on any of these things.

528
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Speaker 11: I've been practicing for over thirty years, but in the

529
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Speaker 11: past year, all the young folks in our practice have

530
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Speaker 11: us on Instagram and on the website now and they

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Speaker 11: can call the office or send us an email. As

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Speaker 11: you saw, we respond right away. We get you in

533
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Speaker 11: right away, and we give you comprehensive results, and if

534
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Speaker 11: we think there's something more, we make sure that we

535
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Speaker 11: shepherd you through your health care journey to good health.

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Speaker 1: Everybody needs to go do this.

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Speaker 2: Man, I've had too many friends you know, either having

538
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Speaker 2: heart attacks or having strokes over the past few years.

539
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Speaker 1: Are dying of heart attacks and strokes.

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Speaker 2: So you should definitely go to us soron medical and

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Speaker 2: get the soaring hearts can. Absolutely, I'm going as soon

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Speaker 2: as I can, and I appreciate you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Doctor Joseph Pumer.

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Speaker 3: to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 8: Morning Everybody, It's DJ NV Charlamagne the gud we are

556
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Speaker 8: the Breakfast Club of course just hilarious is here and

557
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Speaker 8: she came up with this topic right here.

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Speaker 1: She says, not based on the true story though you just.

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Speaker 2: Him, Yes, we are Jesus.

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Speaker 1: So the question is she's almost going into the bushes.

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Speaker 7: So if your baby daddy and your boyfriend is fighting,

562
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Speaker 7: who do you help?

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Speaker 4: And do you feel bad?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 6: You said you're helping your baby daddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to said.

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Speaker 1: Because you can't fight.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Damn, Rome is my guy, like I have to

569
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Speaker 4: help him now.

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Speaker 2: Byre gonna feel about this when he hears this later.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Lord, have mercy, Just you're making your

572
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Speaker 2: life difficult.

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Speaker 7: For no, because no, y'all turned the question back on me.

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Speaker 4: This is for them out there.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to answer.

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Speaker 6: You gonna let it go.

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Speaker 1: My god, who you're helping? If your boyfriend and baby

578
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Speaker 1: daddy fighting?

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Speaker 6: And John hypothetically, man.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 10: Who you.

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Speaker 1: Let Hey? John? Good morning?

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Speaker 8: Now John, If you're your baby daddy and your boyfriend

584
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Speaker 8: started fighting, what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 14: I don't have a baby daddy.

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Speaker 13: I had a baby, mama, and uh, my girl was

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Speaker 13: fighting and I helped that my girl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you out with your girl?

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Speaker 1: They said it happened.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well them, Jeff, what that baby?

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Speaker 4: How you doing? You said you're helping you? You helped

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Speaker 4: your girl.

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Speaker 14: I didn't.

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Speaker 9: I didn't help my girl, but I let her get

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Speaker 9: her left.

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Speaker 1: I think you should help who? Uh whoo?

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Speaker 13: Who?

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Speaker 2: Who loves your child? I think you should help who

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Speaker 2: your child would want you to help. Yeah, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, I don't think you gotta help any You

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Speaker 2: just don't let them fight.

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Speaker 1: You get in between them. Like yo, y'all ain't fighting.

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Speaker 1: So who would you have shelman?

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Speaker 2: I would if if they needed help, I would help

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Speaker 2: the person. I know my child would want me to help.

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Speaker 2: I would help the person. If my child was standing there,

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Speaker 2: my child would try to interview.

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Speaker 4: No, come on, come on with my child standing there.

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Speaker 7: No, because you nobody gonna be fighting in front of chaild.

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Speaker 7: No now, And they pulled up. If your boyfriend and

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Speaker 7: your baby father got into it, who are you out?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: Who are you grabbing first?

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Speaker 1: Between both of them?

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Speaker 4: You get in between but wow, whoa No, don't ever

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Speaker 4: get him between them?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I'm breaking.

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Speaker 2: Them up, But it just depends I would just stopover

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Speaker 2: getting the asking whoever getting a cool put them off

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Speaker 2: from or.

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Speaker 7: Something right right, Because to be honest with you know,

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Speaker 7: I would help Rome, but Rome would be the reason

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Speaker 7: to fight.

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Speaker 4: It happened because Rome antagonizes.

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Speaker 7: Chris is not going to he just going he's gonna fight,

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Speaker 7: but Rome is gonna start it.

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Speaker 4: But I still have to help because Rome has this.

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Speaker 2: And I think, I mean, mouf, I think when we

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Speaker 2: mean help, we don't mean we're not helping to fight.

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Speaker 2: We just gonna break it up, right, that's what.

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Speaker 8: You Because if you help your if you help your

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Speaker 8: baby daddy or your baby mama, you still gotta go

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Speaker 8: home with your boyfriend and girl for later on.

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Speaker 6: And then they're gonna say, you know what, why why

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Speaker 6: you punch me too?

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Speaker 2: Or it's just a boyfriend and girlfriend. That's all y'all said,

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Speaker 2: boyfriend and girlfriend? How serious is it?

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Speaker 4: I'm just as he keeps trying to change the story.

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Speaker 9: Hello club, now.

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Speaker 6: Jack, Jack, what you do?

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Speaker 9: I'm fighting, I'm kicking it off.

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Speaker 1: You owe me shock support?

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Speaker 4: We fighting, dang, I know that's right, Okay.

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Speaker 10: And then I'm going back.

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Speaker 15: I'm going back home to my baby, and I'm being like, Yo, did.

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Speaker 9: You hear what happens to your Daddy's tragic?

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Speaker 2: But I started it. I'm fighting Jesus you know about

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Speaker 2: this man?

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Speaker 1: A lot of these women want their boyfriends to beat

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Speaker 1: up baby.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like yeah, yeah, definitely, Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: Christian text me, Hey, good morning baby, good morning.

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Speaker 6: Here, good morning, good morning morning.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good darmer peez, what's happening?

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Speaker 15: What's happening?

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Speaker 6: Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight?

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Speaker 1: Who you helping?

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Speaker 15: I'm jumping my baby daddy is all about the kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: any time. I got to deal with my baby daddy

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Speaker 15: for the rest of my life. Okay, we're jumping at anything.

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Speaker 4: Do you like your boy you want them? Do you

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Speaker 4: like your boyfriend?

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Speaker 15: It's only the baby daddy for me. That's why I

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Speaker 15: got to deal.

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Speaker 6: With Okay, calm in.

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 6: How you feeling.

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Speaker 15: I'm feeling pretty good. Now.

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Speaker 6: Your baby daddy and your boyfriend get into a fight.

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Speaker 1: Who you helping?

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Speaker 15: I gotta I gotta fight both of them.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna We're gonna bunch.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna punch both of them.

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Speaker 16: Yes.

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Speaker 15: For so I'm gonna help my baby daddy because you know,

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Speaker 15: we got kids, you know what I'm saying. But then

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna help my man because that's my man, everybody,

678
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 15: and figure out the details later, you know what I'm saying.

679
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: So you just hitting both of them at.

680
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 15: This point, because why y'all even got me in this situation?

681
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.

682
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?

683
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 16: Hey?

684
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: What's up this?

685
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 14: Crystal?

686
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

687
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 6: Crystal, good morning, Good morning.

688
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 8: You know we're having an intellectually calm, intellectual conversation about

689
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 8: baby daddy and boyfriends?

690
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: Which one you help it if they fight?

691
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 15: Okay? So I'm gonna be honest, it gotta be. It's

692
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 15: two things. It's how long I been with this my boyfriend,

693
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 15: and who started Now me personally, I got a petty

694
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 15: baby daddy. I got petty baby daddy and me my

695
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 15: my guy. I've been with him for three and a

696
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 15: half years. So he's not I don't know, drama stuff,

697
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 15: no messy stuff, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

698
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 15: a just on my baby daddy started it. So I'm

699
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 15: gonna side with my because we don't we don't do

700
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 15: that drama with his baby mama, my baby day. We

701
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 15: don't do that, so I just a frips. Don't know

702
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 15: what's my baby daddy, So I'm sided with my always.

703
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 10: All right.

704
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: It feels like the baby daddy is more permanent in

705
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: your life than a boyfriend, though, because you don't know

706
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: unless that boyfriend proposes, becomes your becomes your husband.

707
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: It feel like the baby daddy is who you should

708
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: really be.

709
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: But like she said, it, yeah, like it just depends

710
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: like that.

711
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 7: The only reason I'm helping Room is because I cannot

712
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 7: see him get beat up, not because because of the kids,

713
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 7: because as gonna be like, Dad, you knew you couldn't fight,

714
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying.

715
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: It's not that why doing that? But but seriously, you're

716
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: gonna make.

717
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 8: Room slap something tomorrow, Like you're gonna go ou He's

718
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 8: just gonna slap somebody.

719
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: Just difficult. You say he can't fight, and you will

720
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: get messed up.

721
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Dam calls problems in Baltimore all day years say you

722
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: can't fight.

723
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not her breakfast.

724
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: She said, you can't fight.

725
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 7: We do not somebody thank you.

726
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, your baby daddy and your boyfriend fighting.

727
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Who you helping?

728
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 6: I would watch everything and reported, Oh, so you're gonna

729
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: sit back and world start boom.

730
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 15: Yup, world star all day, scream yell, eat some popcorn

731
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 15: at the same time.

732
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: Who would you want to win?

733
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 15: Honestly, my boyfriend, baby daddy.

734
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 6: Got no love.

735
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: That's right, baby daddy needs it.

736
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: Girl, I know that's right.

737
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: What's the moral of the story.

738
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: If there's a moral of the story, yes.

739
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 7: Don't jump in, don't jump in, the moral of the

740
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 7: stories they shouldn't be fighting.

741
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: That they shouldn't be fighting. And if they do, do

742
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: not just call the police.

743
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: Call the police, not even want to both get locked up.

744
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: One might have a warrant.

745
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 6: Now they get now they get arrested.

746
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 7: You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Just

747
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 7: don't fight. But I don't think the woman should jump in.

748
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 7: Don't help even if you up.

749
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: I can't fight.

750
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: No, don't jump in.

751
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: You keep saying that man, no, because I seen who

752
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 6: came late.

753
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: I'd be grown up before. Yes, and in the younger days.

754
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: But he didn't get you back.

755
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 7: I'm sure yes, going at it is man room used

756
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 7: to get damn with the get down. I told you he

757
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: was cheating on me before you met me so Yeah,

758
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 7: that that's that.

759
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 2: Just explained creative. You're trying to fight back and you're

760
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: getting beat up.

761
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: Yes, like real big, like wrong, you can't pick me up.

762
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: That ain't funny, but it's funny.

763
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: It's like when we have pictures. I'm an interview him.

764
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: We gonna interview him. Let's go and you're gonna see

765
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: my god man tell you the truth.

766
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 7: Yes, she beat me up a couple of times, but

767
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 7: a couple of times because I let her put me

768
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 7: in a headline one time.

769
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: Maybe tap out.

770
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's small, real little.

771
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Take that little.

772
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 6: Now, sain't that little? She was big enough to put

773
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 6: me in the headline right.

774
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Than what she is? He is little? She ain't that little?

775
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes she is.

776
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: Actually, I don't move.

777
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 8: It's to the breakfast lug aboard it the breakfast Club.

778
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 6: Morning, everybody in stej n V.

779
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 8: Charlamagne to God. We are the breakfast Club. We have

780
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 8: Laura Luosa our guest host. And we got a special

781
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 8: guest in the building, ladies, Kerry Washington.

782
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: That's right, welcome Washington.

783
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 8: Book out Thicker than Water. Congratulations, learned so much about you,

784
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 8: uh with this book. First, Maybe it's just me being stupid.

785
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 8: I didn't know you were from the Bronx.

786
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: Really, I did not know that. I didn't know you

787
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 4: were from the bron born and raised.

788
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: You know what I say?

789
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: I say, the craziest people in America come from the

790
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Bronx and all of Florida.

791
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 19: Why what why I agree on Florida, but why the Bronx.

792
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: One of the most talented people that come from the Bronx.

793
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: That is very true too. Now, how did you know

794
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: now the time to write, dickn It was so.

795
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 19: What I write about in the book is that a

796
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 19: handful of like five years ago, my parents sat me

797
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 19: down and shared with me some new information about myself

798
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 19: that really kind of challenged the way that I thought

799
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 19: about myself, that I thought about my family, turned my

800
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 19: world upside down. And at the time, I had actually

801
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 19: sold another book, Idea, which was based kind of inspired

802
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 19: by the show that I was on, Scandal, and it

803
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 19: was like, these are the ten things that I learned

804
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 19: from Olivia Pope. But every time I sat down to

805
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 19: write that book, all I could think about was this

806
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 19: new information I'd been given and how it impacted my

807
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 19: family and my sense of self. And so I wasn't

808
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 19: going to write a book at all. I tried to

809
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 19: give the publisher their money back, but they wouldn't take it.

810
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: Wow.

811
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 19: And then a few years later I was like, I

812
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 19: think I have to at least try to write this.

813
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Book because you said your parents didn't want you to

814
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: reveal benefit. Yeah.

815
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 19: Yeah, So my parents told me that they were sort

816
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 19: of forced to tell me that my dad is not

817
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 19: my biological father.

818
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

819
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 8: How did that affect you? Because I mean, he still

820
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 8: your dad at the end of the day. We've seen

821
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 8: the picture you know, had.

822
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: Had chokes on Instagram?

823
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 8: Yea, yeah, yeah, So how did that affect anything after

824
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 8: you were told?

825
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: So?

826
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 19: I think immediately when they told me it was weird,

827
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 19: to be totally honest with you, I felt like excited.

828
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 19: I felt excited and grateful because I had always felt

829
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 19: like there was something going on in my family that

830
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 19: I couldn't put my finger on. But it was like

831
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 19: a dynamic of distance or like there was I just.

832
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: Knew that I didn't know what.

833
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 19: I didn't know, but I knew that that there was

834
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 19: something between my parents and I, And because I didn't

835
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 19: know what it was, a lot of times I blamed

836
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 19: myself for that, or maybe thought I was crazy for

837
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 19: thinking it. Maybe thought maybe I'm just not open enough,

838
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 19: like I was always trying to figure it out.

839
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: So when they.

840
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 19: Told me, it felt like, I don't know, it felt

841
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 19: like I could breathe. It felt like, oh, this is

842
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 19: this is a real opportunity for me to jump into

843
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 19: this new kind of understanding of myself and my life.

844
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: And you know, it was really exciting.

845
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 17: When you would ask questions about like just different things, like, hey,

846
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 17: you go to the doctors and they say, you know

847
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 17: what illnesses are on your mom, So your dad, you

848
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 17: would ask your dad your mom those questions?

849
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 19: How would they answer it? As if my dad was

850
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 19: my father? They were going to take this to their grave,

851
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 19: And I get it. I totally understand, right, Like, yeah,

852
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 19: I think they they felt like, well, first of all,

853
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 19: let me just say this, my parents are renegades, right,

854
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 19: Like a lot of us now we know people who

855
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 19: go to sperm donor sperm banks. Right, It's like very

856
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 19: common relatively now, and you get a whole catalog. You

857
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 19: can pick the color of the eyes and what Ivy

858
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 19: League university they went to. But when my parents did

859
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 19: this in the mid seventies, nobody was doing this this

860
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 19: was highly experimental, highly secretive. It was a big risk

861
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 19: they were taking. It wasn't like they had complete health

862
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 19: screenings for the donor. They had no idea who the

863
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 19: donor was. They said, we asked two things. Let them

864
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 19: be healthy. Who knows what that means at the time, right,

865
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 19: but like we want them to be healthy, and we

866
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 19: want them to be black.

867
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 4: Because they wanted this to be a secret.

868
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 8: So, yeah, you know, you talk about your eating disorder

869
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 8: and dealing with how you felt about your body and

870
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 8: your looks.

871
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 6: I wanted to know what got you in that point.

872
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: And the reason I ask is I have four daughters.

873
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 8: Charlemagne has four daughters, and I always want to make

874
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 8: sure I try my hardest to give my daughter as

875
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 8: many compliments as possible, right, because you never want them

876
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 8: to feel that way.

877
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: But sometimes I don't think that matters because it's.

878
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: Also how they look at themselves.

879
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 8: So what got you to that point where you didn't

880
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 8: like what you've seen in a mirror or something that

881
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 8: you weren't happy about.

882
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 19: It's such a good question. I have daughters too, right,

883
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 19: So it's something that I think about a lot. I

884
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 19: think that the food, it's like any other kind of

885
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 19: addictive behavior. It's not about the drug, it's not really

886
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 19: about the food or even really about the relationship with body.

887
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 4: Came out from a compulsion.

888
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 19: Of trying to escape the feelings I was having or

889
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 19: numb them. And so I think for me, it was

890
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 19: this sense that I write about in the book of

891
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 19: feeling like I had to be perfect, like I had

892
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 19: to be better.

893
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: Than who I was, in order to be deserving of love.

894
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 19: And some of that came from like what why do

895
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 19: I have this weird dynamic with my parents?

896
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: Like what's going on?

897
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 19: Maybe if I was better, prettier, smarter, thinner, then I

898
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 19: might be more lovable.

899
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: So I don't even you know.

900
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 19: I mean, I do think it's important to teach our

901
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 19: kids to make healthy choices when it comes to exercise,

902
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Speaker 19: to make healthy choices when it comes to food, to

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Speaker 19: teach them about nutrition, about how food works in the body.

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Speaker 4: All that's important.

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Speaker 19: But I think helping a kid to feel unconditionally loved,

906
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Speaker 19: to feel safe, those are the things that I think

907
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Speaker 19: help us have the tools to live in life on

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Speaker 19: life's terms, as opposed to grabbing at addictive behaviors to

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Speaker 19: escape life.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm jumping all around because I want people to

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Speaker 2: read the book Thinking of Water. But you talked about,

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Speaker 2: you know, always grabbing for perfection. Yeah, but you said,

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Speaker 2: Jamie Fox thought you a very valuable lesson.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what that was?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Jamie. I mean, I've been really lucky.

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Speaker 19: I've been lucky enough to work with Jamie twice on

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Speaker 19: Ray and Janego Unchained.

919
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: Classics by the way.

920
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Speaker 19: Yeah, truly, he's He's the best. And Jamie's taught me

921
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Speaker 19: a lot about a lot of things. But one of

922
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Speaker 19: the things is in my work as an actor, to

923
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Speaker 19: you have to let go of that perfection idea.

924
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Speaker 4: Because we were doing a scene together in Ray.

925
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Speaker 19: It was the scene where I find speaking of drugs,

926
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Speaker 19: where I find all his heroin works the first time

927
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Speaker 19: as his wife, and you know, we had done it

928
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Speaker 19: in the morning. We had hit it out of the

929
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Speaker 19: park and I was like, oh, we are on fire.

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Speaker 4: This is incredible.

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Speaker 19: And then as the day went on, I kept trying

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Speaker 19: to do it exactly the way we had done it

933
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Speaker 19: earlier that morning, so that it would be in that

934
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Speaker 19: perfect place that felt so good. And that's the beginning

935
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Speaker 19: of death. As an actor, like you, you can't try

936
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Speaker 19: to recreate magic. You have to keep cultivating new magic, right, Like,

937
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Speaker 19: you have to truly be in the moment. And Jamie

938
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Speaker 19: really helped me to realize I was frustrated in the scene,

939
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Speaker 19: and he was like, you got to you gotta keep digging,

940
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Speaker 19: you gotta let go of this morning. And that was

941
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Speaker 19: a really powerful lesson.

942
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Speaker 2: Why was it easier to find that in acting as

943
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Speaker 2: opposed to real life?

944
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Speaker 19: Well, I guess I hadn't learned how to apply that

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Speaker 19: to the rest of my world. You know, there was

946
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Speaker 19: like it was in a vacuum, was isolated kind of moment.

947
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Speaker 4: But it's a good question.

948
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Speaker 19: I mean, that is the lesson though, right is that,

949
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Speaker 19: like the answer is never about perfection, It's always about like,

950
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Speaker 19: what's the best possible version of my life in this

951
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Speaker 19: moment of me in this moment.

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Speaker 8: Now, you did say something I heard you say that

953
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Speaker 8: parents do the best that they can and then it's

954
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Speaker 8: up to us to parent ourselves after that.

955
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Speaker 19: Explain that, well, I think like one of the things

956
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Speaker 19: that I've truly come to terms with in writing this

957
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Speaker 19: book is that my every choice my parents made was

958
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Speaker 19: out of love. They weren't trying to be cruel. They

959
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Speaker 19: weren't trying to hurt me. They really thought that this

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Speaker 19: was the best choice. And by the way doctors back

961
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Speaker 19: then said it, artificial examination was so new. They would say,

962
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Speaker 19: do this thing and then you go home and have sex,

963
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Speaker 19: and then you have plausible deniability. And nobody knew forty

964
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Speaker 19: years ago there would be these home tests twenty three

965
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Speaker 19: in ancestry.

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Speaker 4: You had no idea. So they were like, go home

967
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Speaker 4: and have sex.

968
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Speaker 19: Then the kid's yours, end of story, nothing to talk about, right,

969
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Speaker 19: And so I think my parents didn't want me to

970
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Speaker 19: feel different.

971
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Speaker 4: They didn't want me to feel weird.

972
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Speaker 19: They didn't want me ironically, they didn't want me to

973
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Speaker 19: feel distance from them, even though that's what wound up happening.

974
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Speaker 19: So I know that they made loving choices or choices

975
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Speaker 19: out of love, even if they didn't feel loving to me.

976
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Speaker 4: But I think we have to for me and my journey.

977
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Speaker 19: It's been like it's been good to understand who they were,

978
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Speaker 19: to have compassion for their choices. But I can't blame

979
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Speaker 19: them for where I am now, Like now that I

980
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Speaker 19: have awareness, I have to say, like, Okay, they gave

981
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Speaker 19: me everything they could with as much love as they could.

982
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Speaker 19: How do I now close the gap between what they

983
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Speaker 19: gave me and what I need. That's my responsibility as

984
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Speaker 19: an adult. If I just sit here and continue to

985
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Speaker 19: complain about what they didn't give me, that I'm keeping

986
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Speaker 19: myself a child.

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Speaker 6: Hi, we got more with Kerrie Washington. When we come back,

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Speaker 6: don't move.

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Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Borning.

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Speaker 6: Everybody is ej NV Charlamagna. God we are to Breakfast Club,

992
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Speaker 6: especially with guest co host Laura la Rossa is here

993
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Speaker 6: and we're still kicking away. Carrie Washington, Lauren.

994
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Speaker 20: What's the conversation like with your kids?

995
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Speaker 17: Like once you decided to take this world to your

996
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 17: kids and even deciding to write the book, and now

997
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Speaker 17: you're you know, because your kids, I'm sure they're friends

998
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 17: and everybody knows who you are, So how do you

999
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Speaker 17: have that conversation with them and kind of how are

1000
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Speaker 17: they responding to things?

1001
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Speaker 19: You know, It's funny, like I was saying before, this

1002
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Speaker 19: is so common now, like it's not news to my kids.

1003
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Speaker 19: They were so unimpressed, Like you know, they're in their classes.

1004
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Speaker 19: They have kids with two dads and two moms, so

1005
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Speaker 19: they have friends from sperm donors, friends from egg donors,

1006
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Speaker 19: friends who are adopted, friends who were born from surrogates.

1007
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Speaker 4: Like they also like we're a.

1008
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Speaker 19: Blended family, right, They're big sister, you know when we

1009
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Speaker 19: look at the three of them, their big sister has

1010
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Speaker 19: four parents. Like having me having another parental figure in

1011
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Speaker 19: my story, it's not weird to them. For my parents,

1012
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Speaker 19: they came from a world where what makes a family

1013
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Speaker 19: was very different, but the ideas of what makes a

1014
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Speaker 19: family now is much more open. So you know, they

1015
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Speaker 19: they know obviously the conversation I have with my seventeen

1016
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Speaker 19: year old is very different than the conversation I have

1017
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Speaker 19: with my six year old, right, But I want to

1018
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 19: be a home where we're open and honest and where

1019
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 19: they feel like they can ask anything.

1020
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Speaker 17: What about when you decided to because I know in

1021
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Speaker 17: this book you talk about the abortion that you had

1022
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Speaker 17: at twenty. Yeah, that is something that is like in

1023
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Speaker 17: your twentieth But I mean it's around Saved the Last

1024
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Speaker 17: Dance time, right, so you were, you know, highly successful

1025
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Speaker 17: at this time.

1026
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Speaker 4: I know. But it's in a chapter that I call

1027
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Speaker 4: black famous because I was.

1028
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Speaker 19: I mean, you know how we are like white people

1029
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Speaker 19: didn't necessarily know that the girl from Saved the last

1030
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Speaker 19: dance was the same girl from Ray was the same

1031
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Speaker 19: girl from Last Kame of Scotland. So we knew, I,

1032
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Speaker 19: you know, but so yes, I was my star was

1033
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Speaker 19: on the rise.

1034
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't. I wasn't like I could still go

1035
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Speaker 4: to the grocery store and it was all good.

1036
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Speaker 1: I love yourself awareness. Did you realize you.

1037
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Speaker 2: Were black famous when you were black famous or with

1038
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Speaker 2: that in hindsight, No.

1039
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Speaker 4: In the moment, because I knew, you know.

1040
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Speaker 19: It was like I knew I could walk down the

1041
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Speaker 19: street on fifty seventh in Madison and be fine, but

1042
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Speaker 19: if I was in the Bronx, it was like, oh

1043
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 19: my god. Or like at the time, I was a

1044
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Speaker 19: substitute teacher in New York City public schools. That was

1045
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Speaker 19: one of my many side hustles when I was trying

1046
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Speaker 19: to make a living as an actor. And it was

1047
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Speaker 19: funny because I would get hired into the school and

1048
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Speaker 19: the principals who were white, you know, the principal's vice principals,

1049
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Speaker 19: they would be like, so nice to meet you.

1050
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Speaker 4: Great, they bring me to the classroom. They had no

1051
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Speaker 4: idea who I was.

1052
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Speaker 19: But then I would be asked to leave a school

1053
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Speaker 19: because By the second day, all the kids were cutting

1054
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Speaker 19: class to see Chaneil from Save the Last Dance because

1055
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Speaker 19: they knew who I was because I was substitute teaching

1056
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Speaker 19: in Harlem. So it was like that dynamic. I understood

1057
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Speaker 19: that certain people knew who I was and other people didn't.

1058
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Speaker 1: What's more fulfilling being black famous or white famous.

1059
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Speaker 19: I think you have to have both. That was one

1060
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Speaker 19: of the things that that Chris rocked, like, you can

1061
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 19: never ever forget your core original first audience. You cannot

1062
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Speaker 19: because that other audience will come and go, they'll be

1063
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Speaker 19: ebbs and flows. But black people will hold you up throughout.

1064
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Speaker 19: If you stay with us, we stay with you.

1065
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what made Scandal Is such a hit.

1066
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1067
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Speaker 19: I mean, we were part of the birth of black

1068
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Speaker 19: Twitter at the time. So I one of my best

1069
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Speaker 19: friends from high school. She's a brilliant social media person,

1070
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Speaker 19: Alison Peters. She actually convinced me to go on Twitter

1071
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Speaker 19: and I was like, what why, I don't know, and

1072
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Speaker 19: she was like she had come out of viacom and

1073
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 19: was like, it's really important, you need to do this.

1074
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Speaker 19: And she and I kind of talked Shonda Rhimes into

1075
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Speaker 19: talking the cast into being on Twitter, and we were

1076
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Speaker 19: one of the first shows to do live tweeting and

1077
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Speaker 19: to really have event television at a time where people

1078
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Speaker 19: were no longer watching shows in real time unless it

1079
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Speaker 19: was like a basketball game. And so that conversation around

1080
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Speaker 19: the show was our grassroots movement, Like we had black

1081
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Speaker 19: Twitter on fire. People like Oprah eventually were like, I

1082
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Speaker 19: only started watching Scandal because it's the only thing people

1083
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Speaker 19: talked about on Thursday nights on Twitter.

1084
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Speaker 4: So yes, in.

1085
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Speaker 19: That first season, it was absolutely because black audiences. You

1086
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 19: know how culture follows us, so black audiences made it

1087
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 19: that you had to be there to tune in, and

1088
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Speaker 19: suddenly it trickled out into the rest of the world.

1089
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Speaker 1: Often do people come up to you to streak.

1090
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Speaker 19: All the time, all the time and to be honest

1091
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 19: because the show was inspired by a real woman, Judy Smith,

1092
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Speaker 19: who's a real DC fixer who never slept with the president,

1093
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Speaker 19: but was a real fixer. And I have her on

1094
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Speaker 19: speed dial, so people also will come to me to

1095
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 19: get to her.

1096
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Speaker 4: Because they know she is truly able to fix down.

1097
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Speaker 19: Have you needed I haven't needed her, but I've sent

1098
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Speaker 19: other people to her. Yes, but I've talked to her.

1099
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Speaker 19: I mean, like not on Like I'm in jail. It's

1100
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Speaker 19: two Am helped me out. But like, you know, if

1101
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Speaker 19: there's a rollout of a movie and I'm like, I

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Speaker 19: don't know, Oh, this directory is a little bit of

1103
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Speaker 19: a problem. What do you think you know I've done.

1104
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Speaker 19: I've had those kind of conversations with her. Yeah, but people,

1105
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Speaker 19: do you know? It's funny, like it'll happen in political moments.

1106
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Speaker 19: Like a lot of my political work now is inspired

1107
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Speaker 19: by the fact that in twenty sixteen, the morning after

1108
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Speaker 19: the election, when that awful, rapist, racist person was elected,

1109
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Speaker 19: that when I woke up all over social media people

1110
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Speaker 19: were like, you have.

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Speaker 20: To save us.

1112
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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? Please Olivia Pope?

1113
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Speaker 19: And it was funny for a minute, and then I

1114
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Speaker 19: was like, we have a real problem in our culture

1115
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Speaker 19: because we don't realize that Olivia Pope is an imaginary

1116
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Speaker 19: character on a television show, and that every single person

1117
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Speaker 19: who wrote one of those tweets they have more power

1118
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 19: than Olivia Pope because she can't vote, she can't register voters,

1119
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 19: she can't volunteer, she can't knock on doors. But it's

1120
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 19: like we've given our power over to imaginary people because

1121
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 19: we have this hero worship, right, So we're not stepping

1122
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 19: into our power because we're looking for somebody else to

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Speaker 19: solve our problems for us.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of the work.

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Speaker 19: That I've been doing has been trying to figure out

1126
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 19: how to turn the spotlight that's on me onto those

1127
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 19: grassroots organizations and people who are really doing the work.

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Speaker 1: But when people saw you with the Vice President the

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Speaker 1: other day.

1130
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's back, she's the White House. Yeah.

1131
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: I want to ask a more question about your father.

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00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: How did finding out your father wasn't your biological father

1133
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: changed your views on parenthood? Oh?

1134
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Speaker 19: Man, Well, one thing I say in the book is,

1135
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 19: and it's what I feel, is that in our community,

1136
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 19: where people have historically had such difficult relationships, right where

1137
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 19: there's this history of dad's maybe not being present, you know,

1138
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 19: in the neighborhood that I grew up in, I grew

1139
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 19: up in one of the few households where the dad

1140
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 19: was around, and you know, my parents were still married.

1141
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 19: And the fact looking back that that my dad really

1142
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 19: did choose me, that he was there, He's been there

1143
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 19: for me the whole time that he's been this you know,

1144
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 19: parental force in my life, that he's my dad, that

1145
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 19: he chose me, that I belonged to him and he

1146
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 19: belongs to me. It almost meant more than it ever

1147
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 19: did before. And I feel really grateful.

1148
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 6: You know now you contemplated suicide at one point, Yeah,

1149
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 6: what got you there? First of all? And then how

1150
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 6: did you get through it?

1151
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 8: Because I'm sure there's people listening now that might be

1152
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 8: in that same zone and trying to work themselves through

1153
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: it every day. So what got you to that point

1154
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 8: where you felt that way? And then how did you

1155
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 8: get over that obstacle?

1156
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 19: When you say there might be people listening who feel

1157
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 19: that way, it's like my heart breaks because I just

1158
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 19: know how hard it is to feel that alone and

1159
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 19: that hopeless. So if anybody's listening and is feeling that way,

1160
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 19: the one thing I would say is to ask for help,

1161
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 19: you know, is to really ask for help because you

1162
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 19: are you feel alone, but I guarantee you you are

1163
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 19: not alone. And for me, that was the big thing

1164
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 19: was I mean number one was the first time that

1165
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 19: I truly got on my knees and talked to God

1166
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 19: and was like I need help, like I don't I

1167
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 19: because I felt like I really don't have any tools.

1168
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what to do.

1169
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 19: So it was the first time that I think I

1170
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 19: humbled myself enough to feel like there's got to be

1171
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 19: something bigger than me that points me in the direction

1172
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 19: of healing, and I started reaching out. I went to

1173
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 19: therapy for the first time, group therapy, one on one,

1174
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 19: Like I just really started committing to trying to walk

1175
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 19: this road of healing.

1176
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: I swear by, Yeah, Hi, we got more with Kerry

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00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 6: Washington when we come back, don't move.

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Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club.

1179
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Speaker 8: Good morning, everybody's DJ Envy Charlemagne to God.

1180
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Speaker 6: We are to Breakfast Club.

1181
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 8: Our special guest co host Laura La Rosa is here

1182
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 8: and we're still kicking it with Carrie Washington.

1183
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: Charlemagne, did you're talking about traveling in the Black Famous chapter,

1184
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: you talk about going to Africa?

1185
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, to become African? How did that trip change?

1186
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: So?

1187
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: I was filming Last King of Scotland.

1188
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 19: That was my first time on the continent and it

1189
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 19: was great because I do feel like sometimes as black

1190
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 19: people in America, we go to Africa with all these

1191
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 19: like do I belong here?

1192
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 4: Do I feel at home?

1193
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 10: Like?

1194
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 19: What is my relationship here? And I just had to

1195
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 19: put all of that aside because my focus was on

1196
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 19: just kind of dropping in and becoming a Ugandan woman.

1197
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 19: And I I really did feel at home there.

1198
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 19: I felt so lucky to be able to be so

1200
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 19: immersed in the culture that I wasn't there like you know,

1201
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 19: as a tourist, and I took it when I was there.

1202
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 19: I don't know if you've heard about this experience. It's

1203
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 19: not in the book, but we were hiking in the

1204
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 19: ruin Zori Mountains, which are the mountains that border Rwanda

1205
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 19: and Uganda, and it's where the only wild gorillas live.

1206
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 19: And you can go out with a gorilla trucker and

1207
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 19: find the gorillas in the jungle and spend time with them.

1208
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 19: You go with like a tour guide and these truckers

1209
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 19: and these guys with AK forty Seven's just in case

1210
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 19: if people travel from all over the world to have

1211
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 19: this experience, because it is one of the most intense

1212
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 19: spiritual experiences I've ever had. The second one is my

1213
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 19: experience with the whales that are write about at the

1214
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 19: end to the book. But it was like to be

1215
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 19: in the jungle, to be with these creatures and you

1216
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 19: realize we really do share like ninety seven ninety eight

1217
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 19: percent of our DNA with these animals, and they are

1218
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 19: you start to think like, oh, they're so human, but no,

1219
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 19: like we are so gorilla. And the craziest thing that

1220
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 19: happened was when they give you this orientation in the morning.

1221
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 19: They're like, if a gorilla gets close to you and

1222
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 19: is looking at you, the most important thing to do

1223
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 19: is not run. You have to to feel safe, act

1224
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 19: like a gorilla.

1225
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 4: So I was like, waited, I was.

1226
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 19: Gonna say, I didn't hear it through that lens because

1227
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 19: for me, I was like a young actor who had

1228
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 19: done animal exercises at school, like this was my opportunity

1229
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 19: for this was my Meryl Street mode.

1230
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Speaker 11: Wow.

1231
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 17: So when the gorilla case from the tree, I was like,

1232
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 17: I squat down.

1233
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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody in my group was like, what is she?

1234
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 19: When I tell you that is the best performance of

1235
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 19: my life, I was.

1236
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: I was the gorilla, the gorilla was me.

1237
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 19: I started, I picked off a leaf, started chewing on it,

1238
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 19: and we had the most incredible experience because it's golla.

1239
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 19: Gorilla kept getting closer and closer to us, and this

1240
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 19: little baby gorilla, she was so curious, she was like, what,

1241
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 19: we've never seen a human like this.

1242
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: She was like, this one's one of us.

1243
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 16: But close.

1244
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 19: They just they got closer, the trekker said, than they'd

1245
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 19: ever had a gorilla get to a group before. I mean,

1246
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 19: the guy with the AK forty seven came right next

1247
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 19: to me because they were terrified.

1248
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: But I was like, don't stop, don't stop. Yeah, it

1249
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: was incredible.

1250
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't tell you that just because.

1251
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 19: The experience that we got out of it. I mean

1252
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 19: they said it to everybody in the group, but I

1253
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 19: was the best actor in the Wow.

1254
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 17: Yeah, when all of this is done, like everybody gets

1255
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 17: the book, they get to read it.

1256
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 19: Everybody should get the book, read the audio book.

1257
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: It's me and my own words. So that's fun.

1258
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 17: What is the like, the the hug or the message

1259
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 17: that you want people to get from this book?

1260
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 19: I think, and this is something that I've written in

1261
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 19: the book, but there's a saying I heard a long

1262
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 19: time ago that I really love that we are as

1263
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 19: sick as our secrets. Sure, and that when I think,

1264
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 19: when we can let go of the things that keep

1265
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 19: our true selves hidden, we can let go of our shame.

1266
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 4: You know, I knew when my parents told me.

1267
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 19: I realized that they had been living under this lie

1268
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 19: for so long that every time I had said I

1269
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 19: love you to my dad, whether it was conscious or unconscious,

1270
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 19: there must have been a part of him that thought,

1271
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 19: she loves me because she thinks I am her father.

1272
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

1273
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 19: And there must have been a part of him that thought,

1274
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 19: if she knew I wasn't her father, maybe she won't

1275
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 19: love me. That's part of why they didn't tell me.

1276
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 19: And so I had the opportunity, once they gave me

1277
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 19: that truth, to actually, for the first time, love my

1278
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 19: father unconditionally. And that's what we all deserve. That's what

1279
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 19: we all want. We want to know that, no matter

1280
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 19: what we do, or how we act, or what we've

1281
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 19: done in the past, that we're lovable and that we're loved.

1282
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 19: And I feel like my family's in that place now.

1283
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 19: But you only get there when you expose your truth,

1284
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 19: when you're vulnerable enough to show people who you are

1285
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 19: and they love you anyway, then you know that you

1286
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 19: are worthy of unconditional love.

1287
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: But I think your father proved that. You know, just

1288
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: because somebody provibes Ferm doesn't meet them. He's an actual.

1289
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big essing to be learned. That's right,

1290
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: that's right.

1291
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 19: And it's even like people will say like, well, do

1292
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 19: you know who your biological father is? And I'm still

1293
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 19: wrapping my head honestly around that language.

1294
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Like do you want to know who the donor is?

1295
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 20: I was literally about to do.

1296
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 4: I'm searching.

1297
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 19: I'm looking, and again not because I need a daddy,

1298
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 19: right Like, I'm not looking for an emotional connection. I'm

1299
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 19: really open. I mean I say that now, who knows?

1300
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 19: Once you never know, Like you could walk in the

1301
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 19: room and I can be like, ah, But I think

1302
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 19: I'm just really curious about that fifty percent of me,

1303
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 19: that genetic fifty percent of me.

1304
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 4: I think there is a question. I know what I've

1305
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 4: gotten from my dad.

1306
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 19: I know from my dad I've gotten my sense of humor,

1307
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 19: my imagination and my belief in the impossible, my ability

1308
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 19: to tell a story. I know what I've gotten from

1309
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 19: my mom, my intellect, my intellectual curiosity, my grace, my compassion.

1310
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 19: I don't know what I've gotten from the donor. I'm

1311
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 19: curious what part comes from him. And I'm curious just

1312
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 19: in terms of my medical history. I feel like I

1313
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 19: owe that to my kids that they should know where

1314
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 19: they come from. But the emotional part of it, I'm

1315
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 19: open to let it be what it's going to be.

1316
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 19: Maybe it'll feel like I have additional family. Maybe it'll

1317
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 19: just feel like I have additional information. I feel good

1318
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 19: either way.

1319
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: Can we with something you said in the epilogue and

1320
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it can relate to so many people.

1321
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: You say, my life is not about my donor, nor

1322
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: about my parents. My life is my own. What does

1323
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: that mean to you? And what could that mean to others?

1324
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 19: Yeah, So when my parents told me this information, I realized,

1325
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 19: because they had built this narrative, this false narrative about

1326
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 19: where I came from, I realized that in many ways

1327
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 19: I had been the supporting care character in their story

1328
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 19: right like they were living this life. They were Earl

1329
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 19: and Valerie, parents of this beautiful child, successful middle class

1330
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 19: black family, like I was the supporting character in that fable.

1331
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 19: And when they gave me the truth, I felt like

1332
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 19: part of why I wanted to write the book was

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Speaker 19: that it was time for me to step into being

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Speaker 19: the lead character in the story of my life, to

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 19: not let my life belong to them, to say, like

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 19: I deserve to be on this journey, this quest because

1337
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 19: I have my own story. Like, I get it, you

1338
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 19: had four decades of living this your way. But it's

1339
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 19: my turn to kind of take this narrative and figure

1340
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 19: out what my life means for me. So I love

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00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 19: my parents. I do love being a supporting character in

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00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 19: their life, but that has to be a choice. I

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00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 19: have to know that fundamentally my life is my own

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00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 19: and that they Because I have the most incredible parents,

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00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 19: they now have the opportunity and have allowed themselves to

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Speaker 19: be supporting characters in my set. And a lot of

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Speaker 19: what I've learned about parenting has been about that choice

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Speaker 19: on their part, because they have allowed themselves to be

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00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 19: supporting characters for me in this moment, which is humbling

1350
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 19: for all of us, with them in particular. Right and

1351
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 19: as I look forward at my kids, I realize this

1352
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 19: is my moment. Like this book, I am the protagonist

1353
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 19: of this book, but I'm also the supporting character in

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 19: the story of my kids, and I want them to

1355
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 19: know that I have their back and that they have

1356
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 19: to live their own life. They shouldn't be living in

1357
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 19: the ways that make me comfortable. They shouldn't be making

1358
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 19: choices that are for my own good. They have to

1359
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 19: make the right choices for them in the way that

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00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 19: I'm making the right choices for me.

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Speaker 8: Now, well, we appreciate you for joining us this morning, Thick,

1362
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 8: because when water is out right now, Yes.

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Speaker 4: We'll come see us on tour. We're going to be

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: in Chicago, DC, Atlanta, LA.

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Speaker 19: I'm going to be in conversation with Gabrielle Union, Tyler Perry, Fellow, Me,

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 19: young Tony Goldwyn.

1367
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: It's an incredible lineup. So come see us out on

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Speaker 4: the road.

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Speaker 1: Get her out of here. She's holding in a cough.

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 8: Your mornings will never be the same. Are you someone

1373
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 8: who knows you don't have to sacrifice comfort for quality,

1374
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 8: someone who lives.

1375
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 6: Large in life and in the bedroom.

1376
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 8: Then live large and now dinner with new Magnum Raw condoms,

1377
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 8: the thinnest Magnum condom available.

1378
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 6: Where condoms are sold.

1379
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: Make sure you're telling them to watch out of Florida.

1380
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: all of Floridas.

1382
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you are a donkey.

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 21: The Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.

1384
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested

1385
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: after death.

1386
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 21: He says he rigs the Dolord to his home in

1387
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 21: an attempt to electric hid his pregnant White police.

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Speaker 4: Arrested in Orlando.

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Speaker 22: Man we're talking to Fromlida the breakfast club bench Donkey

1390
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 22: of the day with Charlam Hayne to Gud, I don't

1391
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 22: know why y'all keep you letting him get y'all like, well, do.

1392
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Speaker 2: All this your own people, Okay, donkey today goes the

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00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Renee don Scotland. I know I pronounced their last time. Okay,

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: but Renee is from Florida, ladies and gettlemen. And what

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01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: does your uncle Shala always say about the great state

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01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: of Florida. The craziest people in America come from the

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01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Renee is thirty years old and she will spend two

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01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: years under community control which is a form of house arrest,

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: eight years on probation, and will have to pay a

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01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: fine of more than seventeen grand And personally, I don't

1403
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: think that is enough. In fact, I think she should

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01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: get actual prison time. Why Uncle Shawla, why are you

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: wishing prison time on this woman.

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01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Fox thirteen Tampa for the report. Please.

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Speaker 21: South Dakota resident Rede Skogland is far from home and

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 21: illegal hot water that even surprised the judge.

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Speaker 4: This is really unbelievable.

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Speaker 21: Skogland's trail of lies started well, she decided to come

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01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 21: to Tampa Bay and cheat on her husband.

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 19: That she felt guilty about this due to her marital status,

1413
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 19: and she wanted to get checked her sexual transmitted diseases, but.

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 21: She wanted to get tested for free, so she decided

1415
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 21: to call nine on Cogland made up a story about

1416
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 21: having car trouble and pulling over on the side of

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Speaker 21: the road.

1418
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 20: Owed an unknown milk approached her.

1419
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 21: Because her face was covered, she couldn't describe her attacker.

1420
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 21: When police checked her cell phone and found this Walmart

1421
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 21: surveillance video, Scogland find the rope herself. She confessed to

1422
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 21: making the whole thing up. She was charged with making

1423
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 21: a false police report and decided to take a plea deal.

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: She not even from Florida. She from South Dakota, came

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: to Florida and became a Florida fool. Because it was

1426
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: in the water all right, this woman made up a

1427
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: false rape report in Florida to get a free STD test.

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01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: Let's just sit here for a second and take that

1429
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: in you, like my Paula Santo, Just think about.

1430
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: That Renee made up a false rape report.

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01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: In Florida to get a free STD test.

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01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: Huh believe all women? Huh define all?

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what we should have asked when that foolish

1434
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: ass slogan became part of all lexicon.

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean by all?

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Because women like Renee can't possibly be under the umbrella

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01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: all correct?

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: I have so many questions. Why didn't she just go

1439
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: to the clinic? Okay?

1440
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: I did some research, and by research I mean Google,

1441
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: and all I did was type in free STD testing

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01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: in Florida. It's a whole website called safe for STD

1443
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: testing dot com. It tells you all the clinics that

1444
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: are near you. It says right here if you're looking

1445
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: for cheap STD testing clinics in the state of Florida

1446
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: to get an HIV, herpes, committee, a gonnery, a syphilis,

1447
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: or a hepatitis screening for yourself or your partner, you can

1448
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: get tested today by selecting an option below to find

1449
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: an affordable STD test clinic near you. Same day STD

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: testing locations also available with results in one to two days.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you just go to a free clinic? Now?

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01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: Renee at the time was married and she lied about

1453
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: this sexual assault in attempt to get a free STD

1454
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: test after she had a one night stand in Tampa,

1455
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: so she cheated on her husband, felt guilty about it,

1456
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: so she decided to go get checked out for a

1457
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: STD and instead of just going to a doctor or clinic,

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: she decided to lie about being a rape so she

1459
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: could get a free STD test.

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Speaker 1: Renee, what was your plan? B? Okay?

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: If that was plan A? What was planned B? This

1462
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: couldn't have been the only plan. Not to mention, you

1463
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: lied about a rape claim so you could get a

1464
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: free SDD test. So clearly you hard.

1465
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: On money, but you had money to buy rope.

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01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: We looked it up. The hollow braided rope that she

1467
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: bought is twenty two dollars.

1468
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Okay?

1469
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: How much is an STD test in Florida? According to Google,

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: the cost of STD tests will vary by location and

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: test type. Some clinics, usually community or nonprofit clinics, are

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01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: for free. Are low cost testing labs clinics and at

1473
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: home testing companies may accept insurance to cover a lower

1474
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: your cost of testing and lab testing fees ranged from

1475
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: eight dollars to one hundred and fifty dollars. You had

1476
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: money for an STD test, Okay, I saw other sources

1477
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: say that the STD test in Florida it's fifty five dollars.

1478
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: The test covered syphilis and HIV, commydia goneria. Herpe's test

1479
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: forty five dollars. All I'm saying is if you had

1480
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: money for ROPE, you could have gotten some money for

1481
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: STD test. Hell, you had money to travel from South

1482
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: Dakota to Tampa to Creep in the first place. Okay, Renee,

1483
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: what about condoms? But you too can get free from

1484
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: the clinic? All right, two words for you, Renee, planned parenthood.

1485
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: They can help you get condoms and other birth control

1486
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: methods for free. If that ware inflation is taking us

1487
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: now where people can't even afford to cheat, what happened

1488
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: to the good old day when you know you got

1489
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: an STD and blamed it on your significant other. We

1490
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: used to be a country. We are getting away from

1491
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: traditional values. Not to mention you, nasty, Renee, Not only

1492
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: are you a despicable human who would lie about being raped.

1493
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: You slept with your little side piece unprotected, bad back. Shimmy,

1494
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: shimmy yah, shimmy, Yeah, shimmy yan. You fought bad knuckle

1495
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: in the club and thought you lost. That's why you

1496
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: went to go get in that detest. Okay, lock this

1497
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: woman up, all right, put her under the jail. There's

1498
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: too many women out here who are real victims, who

1499
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: actually are dealing with the real trauma of being sexually assaulted.

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01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: And you out here lying simply because you cheated on

1501
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: your husband and did the raw Dog.

1502
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: Roulette with another man.

1503
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 4: Huh.

1504
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: Please give Renee Dawn starglawn biggest sea haft.

1505
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: What a world we live in? Man?

1506
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm wild.

1507
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: You want to play a game? I do? All right,

1508
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: Let's play a game of guess what race is?

1509
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: Don Goglawn from South Dakota traveled all the way to Temple, Florida,

1510
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: so she could do the raw Dog Roulette with a

1511
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: side piece. Thought she called an STD, so she lied

1512
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: about being raped so she could get a free STD test. Mona,

1513
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: guess what race is?

1514
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: She is a Caucasian from the Coffeest Mountain.

1515
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: One of your Coop's finest creations.

1516
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: Mona says, Jesus, okay, dj NB, well don't call me

1517
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: white girl. And dj NB, yes, sir, you're both correct.

1518
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: Renee is cau. She got made by y'all. Cool on

1519
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: her ass.

1520
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 1: She jesus right, what did I win? Nothing? Nothing? Anyway nothing.

1521
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast.

1522
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 6: Club owning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne, the gud. We

1523
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 6: are the Breakfast Club. Laura La Ross is our special guests,

1524
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 6: and we have Omar Epp said, but also ebonie K

1525
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 6: Williams will be joining us next hour, and we talked

1526
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 6: about some statements that she said, and Laura La Ross

1527
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 6: was talking about a lot of people were very passionate.

1528
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 8: So she's here to discuss. So if you want to

1529
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 8: talk to Ebonie K Williams, she's going to be joining us,

1530
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 8: you could get on the phone lines right now eight

1531
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 8: hundred five eight five, one oh five to one. But

1532
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 8: right now, let's get back into our conversation with Omar Epps.

1533
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: All right, Charlomagne, you know I love what you just

1534
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: said about the movies because I think about it even

1535
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: with a series like this, because I saw you said

1536
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: you wish this book existed when you were a child.

1537
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1538
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't know when the series is going to end,

1539
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: but endings are very important because I think a lot

1540
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: of times in this art we talk about the problems,

1541
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: but we never talk about the solutions, and it never

1542
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: seems to be a happy ending.

1543
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: Whether it's Ben Into.

1544
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: Society, Boys in the Hood, whatever it was, Juice, there's

1545
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: really no happy ending.

1546
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think maybe because they're trying to teach a

1547
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: certain lesson, a certain angle of the lesson, you know,

1548
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: and then that's making me think about certain songs where like, yeah,

1549
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 3: they're not showing the glamorous part, they showing the other part,

1550
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: Like we used to seeing the rich and poles and

1551
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: all of them and all of that fly stuff, but

1552
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 3: they're not showing you the heartache that comes along.

1553
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 5: And so I think things are necessary.

1554
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 3: With Nubia, I do have the ending, but it also

1555
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: is an entry way into film, television, animation, everything you

1556
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: could think of.

1557
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 5: I have story points that we want to hit.

1558
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: So it's essentially I've created my own universe that hopefully

1559
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: one day can be akin to like Marvel.

1560
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: That's what pains me about the Nubia series, though, because

1561
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: I love science fiction and I do feel like it

1562
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: needs to be a film, a TV show. I don't

1563
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: know if Hollywood will ever make a real investment into

1564
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: Side far I led by black people.

1565
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting on Hollywood. Okay.

1566
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: If I was waiting on Hollywood, the book would have

1567
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: never been written. Absolutely, So we're gonna We're gonna do

1568
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: what we do, which is find a way. You know, hey,

1569
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: we made a delicacy out of the scraps, meaning they

1570
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 3: threw us big intestines and we made.

1571
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: And we made them so good?

1572
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 4: Did you make me a plate?

1573
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: This is what we do, so hopefully it is in

1574
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: my lifetime. I mean, this is what I'm doing it for.

1575
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: But you know, there's when I say there's more of us,

1576
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a color.

1577
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean like minded. They're more like minded.

1578
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: People than what we see portrayed in the news and

1579
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: the blogs and stuff like that.

1580
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 5: So when people put their money where their mouth is

1581
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 5: and really.

1582
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 3: Support one another, then it enables us to go to

1583
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 3: those next levels to where we don't have to be

1584
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: fully dependent on other systems.

1585
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1586
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 20: Now, the three main characters of the book, I don't

1587
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 20: want to say their names wrong and bery thank you.

1588
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 20: So they are of.

1589
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 17: This first generation to discover these powers. Yes, when I

1590
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 17: read about that part of it, it made me think

1591
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 17: about like just being first generation coming from certain like

1592
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 17: you know, like I'm first generation college student or whatever,

1593
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 17: and you realize that you really can be put in

1594
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 17: a dark room and find the light.

1595
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 11: Right.

1596
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 20: What is the message in this book to.

1597
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 17: The first generation of anything, like the students, the kids,

1598
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 17: the you know, I'm first generation to go to college

1599
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 17: and first generation to buy a house.

1600
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: What messages millionaires?

1601
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 20: Yeah, like what do they take away from this from

1602
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 20: this book?

1603
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of things that takes I

1604
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: think the one of the main themes for me is

1605
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: the idea of unity.

1606
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 5: You know, cats ull spend twenty.

1607
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: Five hundred dollars on a belt because it has a

1608
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: certain name on it. But if envy shirt kings or

1609
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 3: like food bing them back in the day, supreme in

1610
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: them back in the day, they say, Yo, the belts

1611
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars, we like.

1612
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: From you your brand, Right, I'm.

1613
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: Gonna go spend triple over there, same quality, right, And

1614
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: then you elevate and you be like, oh, they make

1615
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 3: all of these bags and stuff in the same factories,

1616
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: same material, same everything. But because we're blinded by a name,

1617
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: which comes with a perception, we don't know how to

1618
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: stand for. I was like, no, we have the spending dollars,

1619
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 3: so we're gonna spend here. It really matters. And let

1620
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: as killer Mike's loop always talks about keeping a dollar

1621
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: circulating amongst us first before it goes out right. So

1622
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: the theme of unity on every level. And the other

1623
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: thing I really want the young reader to take away

1624
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 3: is all the answers are already inside of you. I

1625
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: think we're born into this world in perfect harmony and

1626
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: in perfect balance. Like if we look at the creation,

1627
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: the world as we know it, everything that's alive is

1628
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: like an instrument, and it's this magnificent symphony, and everything

1629
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: plays apart, from an aunt to an elephant to a tree.

1630
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: Everything plays apart. The only thing that seems to be

1631
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: playing out of tune is human beings. We're the ones

1632
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: playing out to playing the wrong notes. So I say

1633
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: that to say that the answers are already inside right,

1634
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: They already are permeating through you physiologically and spiritually. Part

1635
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: of the conundrum of life is to then you sort

1636
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: of unlearn what is innately in you product of environment

1637
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: schooling all of these things, and then you.

1638
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 5: Spend your latter life unlearning that to get back.

1639
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: To the source.

1640
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 3: So I imagine a world where right now college is a

1641
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: four year process. What if one day college is a

1642
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: year process. What could that person do with that other

1643
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 3: three years in terms of being productive? And if you

1644
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 3: put a bunch of those type of people together, I mean,

1645
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,480
Speaker 3: we're still modeling over I don't know, Twitter and Facebook.

1646
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 5: It's like I ain't caring cancer though, you know what

1647
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 5: I mean.

1648
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: What happened?

1649
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: What do we do in a world where like thailandov

1650
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 5: do you cancer? Nont matter what kind? Oh just go

1651
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 5: to pharmacy. That's fot dollars, ain't nothing.

1652
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: Imagine how much more productive we could be as a species.

1653
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 3: Like the fact that we're in twoenty twenty four and

1654
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: people still hung up on skin color. And again I

1655
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: don't mean white black, this is light skinned dolphins stuff.

1656
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's some licenseduff. You know, Me and Moly did

1657
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: with that.

1658
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 5: And all the time you call.

1659
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 20: It here it is.

1660
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: His fault. And every time.

1661
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 16: Ever give you.

1662
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 8: Charlamage does the same thing, And I say his complexion.

1663
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 8: They attacked me, but he called me beige, rage, beige, beige,

1664
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 8: everything under the suns because of you.

1665
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 6: But if I say black anything to him, yeah.

1666
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: You can't do it.

1667
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 6: Why I'm black, but what you are black exactly? So

1668
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 6: what's the problem.

1669
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: But this is what I'm talking about, the.

1670
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,919
Speaker 6: Fact that even a Dominican, I'm not Dominican.

1671
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: Stop it, better stop claim stop it. Charla Mane, I

1672
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: gotta s here.

1673
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 5: You look more Dominican than thank you. You've been to

1674
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 5: Washington Heights Lanting.

1675
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: What Omar said is so true, and it's amazing to

1676
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: me that most things that are man made take you

1677
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: out of alignment.

1678
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: Yep.

1679
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 3: And I don't understand that. I mean, it makes sense though, right,

1680
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: it does make sense. That's why when people get caught

1681
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: up in this AI, I'm like, it's been made so

1682
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 3: the flaws in it, we just can't see it.

1683
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: Yet. It ain't nothing to trip over, you know what

1684
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's about.

1685
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 3: Being in tune with who we are and who we're

1686
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: here to be and what is our purpose? And our

1687
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 3: purpose is to spread love and spread positive energy. And

1688
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: you get to a point where we all are we

1689
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: still have ambition, We still have drive, but we pushing.

1690
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a thing to be pushing for

1691
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: yourself and then push for others. When you're pushing for others,

1692
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 3: now you're really serving your purpose. And it's a really

1693
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: it's a fulfillment that no dollar amount could fill. When

1694
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,839
Speaker 3: just passing off the information or the knowledge to someone

1695
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: and then go and see them walk, run and then fly.

1696
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: It's just a feeling that to me, this is what

1697
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: life is about. One of the grand themes that life

1698
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: is about.

1699
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I get the less I want.

1700
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,839
Speaker 2: Here you go, you know, because things that I actually

1701
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: want money can't buy or not superficially, you go in

1702
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: shape or form.

1703
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: There you go.

1704
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 8: All right, we got more with Omar Epps. When we

1705
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 8: come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.

1706
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast.

1707
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 8: Club, puting everybody. It's DJ n V, Charlamagne, the Gods.

1708
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 8: We are the Breakfast Club. We have Laura la Rossa here,

1709
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 8: our special guest host. Still kicking with Omar Epps. But

1710
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 8: you having three kids, would you want your three kids

1711
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 8: to be in the industry acting or music? Would you

1712
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 8: want them seeing what you've seen? Because you've seen behind

1713
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 8: the scenes, you pull the curtain back, So would you want.

1714
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: Them to do that?

1715
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm human, so I think whatever whatever it is,

1716
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: I don't care if you race car drive them Mechannon

1717
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 3: must drought like we all want our kids to do

1718
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: something other than what be great, Yeah, I mean, be

1719
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: great at that thing. But underneath it all, I just

1720
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: want them to follow their passion, you know, whatever brings

1721
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 3: them joy. If it's you know, our youngest daughter, she's

1722
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: a singer songwriter, that's her gift. But she's putting in

1723
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 3: the work for it. And that's the main thing. You know,

1724
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: nothing's gonna come to you easy. But if you putting

1725
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 3: in the work for it and that's your passion, I'm

1726
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: behind it.

1727
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: See. It's good.

1728
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 8: It's good in situations like that because mom and dad

1729
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 8: have been there, so you can guide where maybe you

1730
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 8: didn't have that guy because maybe your mom didn't know

1731
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 8: how to look at contracts and look know what to

1732
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 8: look for, you know. I mean, so it's good that

1733
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 8: you're there, but it's just, you know, it's it's a

1734
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 8: difficult thing because you're like, damn distressed that I went

1735
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 8: through dealing with this in the industry.

1736
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, what you're saying is right

1737
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 3: in that sense, but realistically it's a totally different world

1738
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: because this is a completely different universe from selling a

1739
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: physical record to a stream and the business in between that. Correct,

1740
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: it's a whole different world. So it's like, yeah, your

1741
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: moms did that, but not like this is.

1742
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 20: She like, are you guys like managing?

1743
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1744
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 6: Like you A mom's not right here.

1745
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 3: She's a heavy handed advisor. That's what's your.

1746
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: Favorite method of storytelling is the TV, the films, books.

1747
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: It depends on the story, you know, Like like when

1748
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 3: I was thinking of Nubia, I saw film, I saw television,

1749
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: I saw all these things, but I knew that's not

1750
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: the delivery system. Right now, you know what I'm saying,

1751
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to crawl through this process. Crawl and

1752
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 3: meaning a good thing. Like there's just so much story

1753
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 3: this that the depth of the story can only be

1754
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: done in book form in its initial phase. Once that's

1755
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: established to an audience and they're familiar with, oh yeah,

1756
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 3: that's the blah blah blah, then we can take it

1757
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: other places. And so we're still in this is phase one,

1758
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: if you will. But other than that, I just love

1759
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: art man. It doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I

1760
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: think there's an art to cook, and there's an art

1761
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 3: to everything.

1762
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,839
Speaker 5: There's a art to business.

1763
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1764
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 5: It just depends on you know, what you connect to

1765
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 5: and what makes you happy.

1766
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 3: And for me, the prime goal is to is is

1767
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 3: like I've realized the weight of everything that I'm a

1768
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 3: part of is gonna outlast me. So why am I

1769
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: really doing this? Who am I doing it with? It's

1770
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: not just a self fulfilling thing anymore, you know what

1771
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: I mean. Like the greatest compliments to this day, the

1772
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: greatest compliments that I received was when people come up

1773
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 3: to me and say something that I was.

1774
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 5: In, you know, helped them through or inspired them to

1775
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 5: I had a young.

1776
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 3: Doctor come up to me and was talking about a

1777
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 3: show that I was on, medical shows on and they

1778
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 3: were just like the portrayal of that character helped them

1779
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 3: through a tough time while they were in med school

1780
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 3: ready to give up. And to me, that was like

1781
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: getting a million dollar check because I'm like, this is

1782
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: exactly what I do it for, you know what I mean?

1783
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: Like to be able to pass on what was passed

1784
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: on to me.

1785
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: I really didn't want to know how you wrap your

1786
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: mind around what's going on in twenty ninety eight.

1787
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it's to me, it's simple.

1788
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: I think humans are going to human and then geographically

1789
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 3: like again, whatever happens in the next twenty thirty years.

1790
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 5: There's going to be a world after that. So that's

1791
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 5: creative license.

1792
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: Well it kind of looking at I mean, sadly, if

1793
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 3: we take a cue from what happened with Sandy, the

1794
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 3: lower part of the city would be underwater, and then

1795
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: same rules apply.

1796
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: Where's all the money at now uptown?

1797
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 5: All right, let's ramp that up a little bit.

1798
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 3: More humans are fused with technology. Let's you know, you

1799
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: get to take creative license.

1800
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 5: But the more things change, the more they stay the same.

1801
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying.

1802
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 3: Like in the hood, everybody want to talk about new

1803
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: world or order. No, it's one world order. That's the

1804
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: actual term. And that's been for thousands of years. There's

1805
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: always going to be a group of few that try

1806
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 3: to control the many. It ain't nothing new. There's no conspiracy.

1807
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: It's right there, dead in front of your face. It's

1808
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: just how you perceive it, you know what I mean.

1809
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 3: But there's something to perceive as well, is that the

1810
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 3: victory's already won, and whether the listeners, whether you're a

1811
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 3: believer or not. I'm not, you know, putting my beliefs

1812
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: on anyone. I'm a believer. And the victory's already won.

1813
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 3: The table of victory with the most beneficent is already set.

1814
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: So there's a part of us that we're gone through

1815
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 3: the motions. Choose your side, choose wisely, and live your life.

1816
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 3: And your character is.

1817
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: Determined by your actions period, you know what I mean.

1818
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 3: So you know, hopefully when it's my time, my actions

1819
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 3: will be met by the eternal glory.

1820
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 8: You play so many iconic roles, does it ever body

1821
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 8: with Somebody calls you wanted the names from the iconic role,

1822
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 8: like I'm.

1823
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 6: Sure you walk down the horns like you.

1824
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: I love it. No, no, no, that doesn't bother me

1825
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: at all.

1826
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 5: I'm when people call me like yo, Mac, I'm like, that's.

1827
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: My man's and all that.

1828
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 22: But I know we look alike, they say, but come on,

1829
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 22: bron like Mike, Like Mike, that's correct.

1830
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 20: Well I'm like, come on, yo, Like that's the like,

1831
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 20: where is this happening?

1832
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: Like it's just random?

1833
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: Like sometimes I wonder if people are just It's like

1834
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: if someone saw you, and they're like.

1835
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 16: Oh, I know that.

1836
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 6: Somebody Marschner, but nobody have heard. Mars Chestner said that.

1837
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 5: You know what the chess and I said, somebody called

1838
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 5: him Charlamage on JENNI budget.

1839
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: So you said he gets mistaken for me?

1840
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 6: That's God, damn lie.

1841
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 20: Do you see tell me?

1842
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: God?

1843
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 20: Why are you upset if you signed Dominican in him?

1844
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Do you see it?

1845
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: Knock it off? Definitely? Yeah. I gotta take him up

1846
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: to Washingtonians. Gotta go.

1847
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: Now we demate about who your favorite, who the best

1848
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: character was? I think your best role with Jay Reed

1849
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: and Too Deep. I think that's a very slept on roll.

1850
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 2: How about I haven't done it yet?

1851
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well there you have it. It's Omar.

1852
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely appreciate you for joining us.

1853
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: Brother books out right now, Nubia, the Reckoning, It's the

1854
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 8: breakfast Club.

1855
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: Good morning, the breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be

1856
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: the same.

1857
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,520
Speaker 8: Are you someone who knows you don't have to sacrifice

1858
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 8: comfort for quality? Someone who lives large in life and

1859
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 8: in the bedroom, Then live large and now thinner with

1860
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 8: new Magnum Raw condoms, the thinnest Magnum condom available where

1861
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 8: condoms are sold,