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Speaker 1: flurring rage, taking it over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: And Ron Wolflee it doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 1: The words earlier today from Pro Bowl running back James Connor,

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Speaker 1: no bigger question mark that Dennis Gardeck is there nobody

422
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Speaker 1: knows whether to figure whether twenty twenty was a fluke.

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Speaker 1: Can you count on him this year? What is your

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Speaker 1: response when you're trying to figure and factor him into

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Speaker 1: the equation this season? Yeah, well, you know, it's a

426
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Speaker 1: good sound bite by him. No guarantees, of course, you know,

427
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Speaker 1: and it's obviously a testament to his humble mindset. But

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Speaker 1: you know, the one thing about Dennis last year. First

429
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Speaker 1: of all, a lot of times it can take two

430
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Speaker 1: years or fully come back from an injury like that.

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Speaker 1: Whether it does or doesn't, I think that's individualized, and

432
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Speaker 1: Dennis felt his way back through it for a little bit,

433
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Speaker 1: i'm sure last year. But the one thing that I

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Speaker 1: look at, there's some things he did on film last

435
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Speaker 1: year that we're outstanding. You know, they didn't result in

436
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Speaker 1: a sack. But a lot of times when somebody on

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Speaker 1: the defense gets a sack, there's other guys across the

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Speaker 1: ball or wherever they're lined up that do a heck

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Speaker 1: of a job that contribute to that sack. He was

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Speaker 1: involved in a lot of situations last year where he

441
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Speaker 1: was an integral part of the pass rush group that

442
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Speaker 1: led to a sack for somebody else. So to me,

443
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Speaker 1: I look at that he did his job. Last year,

444
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Speaker 1: they didn't result in the sack numbers all good, and

445
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Speaker 1: so this year, hopefully he just picks up where he

446
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Speaker 1: left off and you know, the numbers will be what

447
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Speaker 1: they are. And as we like to say in the industry,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, sacks come in bunches. Sometimes your numbers called,

449
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Speaker 1: sometimes it isn't. But last year he produced at a

450
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Speaker 1: high level doing what he had to do. The numbers

451
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Speaker 1: just weren't there. So, coach, you got some young guys

452
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Speaker 1: coming in or, as my old coach used to say,

453
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Speaker 1: some fresh meat coming in here. My j Sanders of

454
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Speaker 1: course and Cameron Thomas. Talk about these two young guys

455
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Speaker 1: right now, and do you coach them any differently than

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Speaker 1: some of the other guys in the room. Yeah. First

457
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Speaker 1: of all, they fit the profile. They're tough guys that

458
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Speaker 1: love ball and they attack. You know, two of their

459
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Speaker 1: distinguishable traits coming out of college was their motor play,

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Speaker 1: speed and effort. So that's number one for us. They

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Speaker 1: passed that test. They're both great people and they worked hard,

462
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Speaker 1: so it was they were easy decisions for us in

463
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Speaker 1: that regard. And um, so that's the first step. You know,

464
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Speaker 1: skill set wise, they're they're really different. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: both long, you know six five and six four six

466
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Speaker 1: five Cam six four. Um, so that's good. We got

467
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Speaker 1: some length there. Body type wise a little different. Maj's leaner,

468
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Speaker 1: a little longer. Cam's got a little more power. So, um,

469
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Speaker 1: they're built the right way from an intangible standpoint. And

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Speaker 1: then skill set wise, they both bring past rush to

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Speaker 1: the table a little a little bit differently, but um,

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Speaker 1: we're fired up to have them. And um, you know

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Speaker 1: they've they've been they've been great so far. Yes, Wolf,

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Speaker 1: coach them a little different, coach them harder. Man. They're

475
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Speaker 1: they're rooks. They haven't earned anything yet. Yeah, fresh meetings,

476
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Speaker 1: it was Quitin Harris, VP of player Personnel, said that

477
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Speaker 1: my J. Sanders missed at least seven sacks a year

478
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Speaker 1: ago at Cincinnati, just just didn't finish. And then someone

479
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Speaker 1: else told me that he's just a walking question. He's

480
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Speaker 1: always asking questions. My J. Sanders really curious, really wants

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Speaker 1: to get better. Is that your only impression on him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: For sure, high football IQ, which is part of it.

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Speaker 1: He understands the game, which is good. You know, the

484
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Speaker 1: rookies though they got it there's a lot of information.

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Speaker 1: They got a process and compartmentalize. That's the phase they're

486
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Speaker 1: both in. But from a football IQ standpoint, high IQ,

487
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Speaker 1: he wants to know, he wants to ask questions. So yes,

488
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Speaker 1: you know that that part is accurate, so OTAs that

489
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Speaker 1: is one level in the off season, of course, and

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Speaker 1: one level of intensity. I say for the most part,

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Speaker 1: you got mandatory mini camp coach that is coming up

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Speaker 1: right here. Do you increase your intensity level on purpose?

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Speaker 1: Do you increase it at all? As a matter of fact?

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Speaker 1: Do you change how you coach? Do you become more vociferous?

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Speaker 1: Do you become louder? In other words, I'm saying, well,

496
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Speaker 1: if I start out, I start out in one in

497
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Speaker 1: April the same way I'm gonna be in in so

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Speaker 1: it never changes that intensity level. Not for me. We

499
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Speaker 1: start out as high as it can go. We'll check

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Speaker 1: this out. Our man here, Okay has a bachelor's degree

501
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Speaker 1: from IOWA in finance and a master's degree in sports management.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Bulling here, can you investigate the rams and see

503
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Speaker 1: how they're getting around the salary cap and how they're

504
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: paying all this cash? That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, what's going on around here? I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay away from that question. Is how about this question?

507
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Speaker 1: What is the best thing about being an assistant coach

508
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Speaker 1: in the NFL? You know, I think it's funny. Maj.

509
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Speaker 1: Sanders asked a similar question that on his visit here,

510
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Speaker 1: and I've never you know, I don't, I don't think

511
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Speaker 1: about it all the time, but it as I did

512
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Speaker 1: reflect on it, it is collective results with people that

513
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Speaker 1: you love and respect, who are on the same grind

514
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Speaker 1: that you are. When when your blood sweat and tears

515
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Speaker 1: with those people throughout the process and you have opportunities

516
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Speaker 1: to achieve great things. Nothing better still about the competition.

517
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Speaker 1: It's still about its being a group and being on

518
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Speaker 1: a team and trying to accomplish something. Yeah, I think

519
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: I think I mayrimnod have been passed the numbers. I

520
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: want to Chandler sax in Week one against Tennessee. So

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Speaker 1: there's nothing better for me than when my guys have success,

522
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Speaker 1: our defense has success. Team, you know, But it's it's

523
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Speaker 1: just it's the best. Speaking of the Titans in week one,

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Speaker 1: the joint practice that's coming in August, you look forward

525
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Speaker 1: to that yeah, those are well, no, those are In

526
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Speaker 1: my experience, those are good because it's a little break

527
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: from the Manatia training camp and when you're when you're

528
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Speaker 1: competing against another team, the intensity always goes up. So

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Speaker 1: the one question you'd love to have answered by the

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Speaker 1: end of the preseason the end of August with your

531
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Speaker 1: position group would be what is there an easy answer

532
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Speaker 1: to that is the music is rolling? Is there an

533
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: easy instant answer to what question you really want answered

534
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: by the end of the preseason. I don't have one, Paul,

535
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Speaker 1: I don't have a question right now. You know it's

536
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: all the same, That's all the same, all the same, Charlie,

537
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Speaker 1: thank you so much, Buddy. Absolutely. I mean we got

538
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Speaker 1: an Aeron man here. He did seven years with the

539
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Speaker 1: Dolphins South Florida summers now Arizona summers with the Cardinals.

540
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Speaker 1: Charlie Bolin, the Cardinals outside linebackers coach. We continue with

541
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Speaker 1: a big red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert

542
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Speaker 1: hands it off. No running room off the right side

543
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Speaker 1: and back of loss up two on the play. Saban

544
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Speaker 1: Collins the first guy there, and that is a big

545
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: man coming down from the week's side shooting the gap.

546
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Speaker 1: Saban Collins again throws over the middle, tipped into the

547
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Speaker 1: air and in complained he was going for his tight

548
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: end pass was off the mark. Xaban Collins at coverage

549
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: that time, and it's fourth down. Saban Collins bats that

550
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: ball into the air with all of that great white

551
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: use check in motion. It is a quarterback drop the middle.

552
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Lance's head drives the legs forward, Gonna be close. The

553
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are short. Zaven Collins with the tackle.

554
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Savan Collins, the rookie at two sixty playing downhill, came

555
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: in and laid some lumber baby six four two sixty.

556
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Speaker 1: That's more like an inside linebacker from your era, Wolf,

557
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Speaker 1: is it not that sort of size and just velocity

558
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: from a Xavin Collins? And your question of Charlie Bullen.

559
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Speaker 1: In the last segment here on the Big Red Race

560
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: presented by Santan ford in Gilbert, the Cardinals outside linebackers coach,

561
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: he answered right away when he asked him, can a

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Speaker 1: player get better in the off season, Yeah, he said,

563
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Speaker 1: absolutely for sure. And if there was one guy you'd

564
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Speaker 1: love to see them make the most progress in the

565
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Speaker 1: off season, it'd be hard not to choose Zaven Collins.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine now, right, Paul, listen, and this is

567
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Speaker 1: exactly when you want Zaven Collins out on the field.

568
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: And you have to remember he wasn't given that luxury

569
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Speaker 1: after his rookie year. For the most party, wasn't given

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Speaker 1: the ability to do it, Paully, and I should say

571
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was not given the ability to do that,

572
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Speaker 1: and I think that really kind of set him back

573
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And Zaven Collins, to me, this is

574
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Speaker 1: the guy, Paul. If there's one guy in training camp

575
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Speaker 1: that I want to follow around, it's Zaven. I love

576
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Speaker 1: the kid, I love his qualities, I love the talent

577
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Speaker 1: he's been given. But man, he's got to develop mentally,

578
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Speaker 1: and let's hope that happens. Yeah, and he was annointed

579
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Speaker 1: the starting middle linebacker from day one, right after the

580
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Speaker 1: draft round one April of last year. But it quickly

581
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: became apparent that pe in the quarterback of an NFL

582
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Speaker 1: defense in a very advanced and complex scheme like Mans Joseph,

583
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Speaker 1: that was a lot to ask. So you saw Jordan Hicks, obviously,

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Speaker 1: who got the most defensive snaps of any player on

585
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense. He was voted to team captain by

586
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Speaker 1: the locker room, okay, And there was Savin Collins, and

587
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Speaker 1: we saw him in different roles, and you also saw

588
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Speaker 1: him banged up at times. And he met the media

589
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: today and he was forthcoming out everything. In fact, he

590
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: was asked, Okay, first and foremost, what are you working on? Obviously,

591
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Speaker 1: you know last year didn't go as you know everyone want.

592
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Speaker 1: But that's that's part of life, just learning from those mistakes,

593
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Speaker 1: applying him to now and trying to get better, which

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Speaker 1: I have. I think that I've done a really good

595
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Speaker 1: job in some of the areas that I've messed up

596
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Speaker 1: as far as you know, mental errors or you know,

597
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, Wolf, I'm just going to

598
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: take a guess that. Yeah. His primary objective right now

599
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Speaker 1: is to gain the absolute trust of his coaches, of

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Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator. If nothing else bans, Joseph has to

601
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: trust the guy wearing the green dot and calling the

602
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Speaker 1: defense and making the checks right. Yeah, no, Paul, you're right,

603
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: You're you're right on this. But it's also his teammates, PAULI.

604
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Speaker 1: He's got to earn the trust of his teammates, the

605
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Speaker 1: guys that are out there. They have to be able

606
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: to trust him that he is going to make the

607
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: right call, that he is going to make the right check.

608
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Speaker 1: And you got to remember it's not just him. There

609
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Speaker 1: are some other guys that are out there as well.

610
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Speaker 1: I think a Buddha Baker, I think of Jalen Thompson.

611
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: I think of these guys that are also making calls

612
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Speaker 1: in the secondary. But you get you need that green

613
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Speaker 1: dot in the box. You need that mic linebacker in particular.

614
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Speaker 1: You need him to actually be the guy who's getting

615
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Speaker 1: everybody lined up and getting him lined up correctly. So

616
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Speaker 1: his teammates got to trust him to polly. Yeah. In

617
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Speaker 1: an ideal world, the two first round inside linebackers are

618
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Speaker 1: playing side by side and they're just rocking and rolling

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Speaker 1: all season long. Obviously, Dance Joseph was asked about Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons and Zavan Collins a little bit earlier this offseason,

621
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Speaker 1: and here was his response. It's their time. You know,

622
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Speaker 1: Isaiah's going into his third years, Avan's going into a

623
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Speaker 1: second year to first round picks to have to help us,

624
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's heading that way. You know. I've

625
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: been proud of his Zaven, how much time he's put in.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah has always been a good worker. You know. It's

627
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Speaker 1: the next step for him. Obviously watching him last year,

628
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Speaker 1: he made plays, you know, but now he has to

629
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Speaker 1: make consistent plays and not give up play. You know.

630
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Speaker 1: That's this next challenge and for Zavan to stand healthy

631
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Speaker 1: and keep learning. But both guys are physically gifted, you know,

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Speaker 1: so we have to get those guys ready to play

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Speaker 1: because we need him. What'd you think of vance Joseph there,

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, what he said first about Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: and just he has to make those consistent plays. That's

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Speaker 1: the next step for Isaiah in year three. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: just has to play more consistently. There's no doubt. And

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's actually getting an off season,

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Speaker 1: I think dad really an offseason where he's actually on

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Speaker 1: the field, Paul, I think that's going to help Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Simmons a lot. Having said that, listen, there's there's no

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Speaker 1: two positions that are more important than the inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: position for the Arizona Cardinals, the mic backer and of

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Speaker 1: course the weak side inside linebacker. Paul, those two guys,

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons. I believe this is just

646
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Speaker 1: my opinion here. I believe they hold the keys to

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Speaker 1: the kingdom of defense for the Arizona Cardinals. If you

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Speaker 1: tell me they both take a step forward, that they

649
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Speaker 1: both get better, that they're they're they're guys that are improving,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, the Arizona Cardlos have a

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Speaker 1: chance to be good defensively. If those two guys don't

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Speaker 1: take a step forward and don't improve, now, all of

653
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Speaker 1: a sudden, there's a question mark there and they're gonna struggle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Think think about the division itself, right, Kyle Shanahan has

655
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Speaker 1: he hell been on running the ball? Absolutely does, even

656
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Speaker 1: have a very complex scheme where he keeps a defense

657
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Speaker 1: on us. Yes, it's always a challenge going agains the

658
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan designed offense and run game. The Seahawks come on,

659
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Speaker 1: they basically have no choice but to run the ball,

660
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Speaker 1: and they have a couple of really stout running backs

661
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it with. They've invested heavily there. And

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Speaker 1: then of course we know about Sean McVay and how

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Speaker 1: he keeps a defense on us, and with Cam Akers

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Speaker 1: healthy and the way they transition to more of a

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Speaker 1: run oriented offense last year, all the way to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl title. It's a task. So I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you how Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins go, There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Now. Here's the thing. As Craig

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Speaker 1: Grielou told us earlier today, Isaiah Simmons has been in

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Speaker 1: a lot of the safety drills. So as much as

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Speaker 1: the coaches in these last two years have told us

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Speaker 1: about how Isaiah Simmons is an inside linebacker, the game

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Speaker 1: film would belie what they're telling us, because he seemingly

674
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Speaker 1: is that X factor Wilf Isaiah Simmons. They use them

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Speaker 1: in a whole variety of positions. Yeah, you know, Polly,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering right now because the pads aren't on,

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Speaker 1: right the pads aren't on. Because the pads aren't on,

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Speaker 1: they want him to learn maybe playing in the secondary

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Speaker 1: and what that's like, because I think they want to

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Speaker 1: move him around. You know that, Polly. They still want

681
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Speaker 1: to make him that X factor right now, So listen,

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Speaker 1: if the pads are on and he's still continuing to

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Speaker 1: work out with the safeties, that I will get a

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Speaker 1: little concerned with I will, Paul, because that means, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what are you telling me that he's actually gonna be

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Speaker 1: a safety. Well right now, you don't think of the

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Speaker 1: Arizoto Cardinals needing a safety. You just don't. Now. Of course,

688
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Speaker 1: you can play with three safeties. There are defensive personnel

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Speaker 1: groups where you're gonna do that from time to time,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. But man, that weekside inside linebacker, that's the

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Speaker 1: position I want Isaiah Simmons to really focus on and grow.

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Speaker 1: And PAULI, I will tell you right now, the pad's

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Speaker 1: not being on. Maybe that's why they got him in

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Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. Maybe. And Jalen Thompson told the media

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Speaker 1: today that both him and Buddha have the ability to

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Speaker 1: play in the slot if needed. So if all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, there's a ten personnel scheme and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, you know, Buddha or Jaalen Thompson drops

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Speaker 1: into the slot and then all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 1: see Isaiah Simmons in center field, which we saw at

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Speaker 1: times last year. Who knows, there's a lot of possibilities.

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Speaker 1: To your point, they're trying to coach everyone up at

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Speaker 1: every position. But for Zavn Collins, it's that mic linebacker spot.

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Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say today coming off

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Speaker 1: year one, it's not going to be a Cinderella story always.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a it's it's life. That's what

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Speaker 1: it's what it is. You know, if everything was easy,

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Speaker 1: then you know it'd be two get to be true.

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Speaker 1: You got to go through something, and you know, hopefully

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Speaker 1: that's if that's the hardest thing I have to go

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Speaker 1: through it in my NFL career, I think, you know

712
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Speaker 1: we're going to be all right, because there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: he has the skill set. He has that ability at

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Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds to be that thumper, to

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Speaker 1: really fill the A and B gap and really be

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Speaker 1: that stout run stopper. But at the same time, we've

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Speaker 1: seen him run. They used him on the edge of

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Speaker 1: times last year. He can run with the tight end

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Speaker 1: or cover the back out of the backfield. He is

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Speaker 1: that complete linebacker potentially. Well. I do like the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has said that he has cut down on

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Speaker 1: his mental errors, that that part of his game has improved,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he needs to do. Man going forward,

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Speaker 1: he needs to be in the playbook big time. He

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Speaker 1: needs to be watching tape big time. He needs to

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Speaker 1: be sitting down with Vans, Joseph and Billy Davis and

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Speaker 1: going over a lot of these schemes. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what he's doing right now. But don't quit. Don't

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Speaker 1: ever quit on Zaven Collins and Zaban. Don't you ever quit.

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal season tickets available now. Go to Acy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: position group on this team. We'll talk running back next

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Speaker 1: than the big red rage presented by satan Ford in

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Speaker 1: Gilbert Tyler Back. I'll throw fires right side, want to

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Speaker 1: catch the runs right to the ten of the five

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Speaker 1: into the end zone. Four of the touchdown. James Connor

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Speaker 1: stabbing a ball that was an errand passed. This is

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Speaker 1: the part of James Connell's game that nobody on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball saw coming. Remember when he

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Speaker 1: first signed and well, we had James Saxons on right

741
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Speaker 1: and we asked him about him as a pass catcher

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Speaker 1: and his line was one of the great all time lines. Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't put an elephant on a sailboat. Can he

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Speaker 1: catch the ball? Is he a threat out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield to catch the ball? Yeah, I mean, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think you want to ask you elephant, you know,

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Speaker 1: ride in a sailboat. Well that sailboat was just out

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Speaker 1: on Michigan and it just went twenty three yards of

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Speaker 1: the one hit of graph. It was in Cleveland, actually,

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Speaker 1: Chicago is what it was. He was great all year long.

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Speaker 1: And you know what it was in Chicago where he

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Speaker 1: had Cliff Kingsbury screaming down the Cardinals sideline to the

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Speaker 1: end zone and just dapping up his Pro Bowl running back.

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Speaker 1: No one appreciated the skill set of James Connor more

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Speaker 1: than coach Cliff. It's a big Red Rachel PRESENTI by

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Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Cleveland, and I'd tell you, Wolf, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure there was a player I enjoyed watching more

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Speaker 1: last year than James Connor. Maybe because of the struggles

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Speaker 1: in short yardage and goal line the year before, but

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Speaker 1: everything he did, not just the power run game, but

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Speaker 1: the complete running back he was and how he ended

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Speaker 1: up in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, you know, PAULI, it's

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Speaker 1: amazing because I know that the Pittsburgh Steelers, I know

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Speaker 1: that Mike Tomlin really liked James Connor. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: still think to this day there could be there could

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Speaker 1: have been a schism between Kevin Colbert, of course, who

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Speaker 1: as a general manager at the time for the Steelers

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Speaker 1: not thinking maybe that James Connor wasn't every down back,

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Speaker 1: and then you had Mike Tomlin thinking that he was

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Speaker 1: and every down back. Those guys got along very very

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Speaker 1: well together. I'm not saying they were yelling at each other,

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Speaker 1: screaming at each other in the front office, I am.

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Speaker 1: You know what James Connor said today that it's all

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Speaker 1: about fit for any player in any offense, and that

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Speaker 1: if you find the right fit that can maximize your

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Speaker 1: skill set dot dot dot. So that's kind of curious

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Speaker 1: based on what you just said. No, you're right about that,

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Speaker 1: and I do believe the fit here is great. You

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Speaker 1: think about it, man, this is an every down back.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, James Connor is at every down back.

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Speaker 1: He might be the definition of it in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he can actually hold up and pass protection,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he is good coming out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield in terms of being a receiver and then running

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Speaker 1: the ball. Never forget this, Paul. His three point seven

786
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Speaker 1: yard average last year was brought down because how many

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Speaker 1: times that they give him the ball in third and

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Speaker 1: one situations. How many times that they give him the

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Speaker 1: ball in third and goal, fourth and goal on the

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Speaker 1: one yard line? How many times did you see that

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Speaker 1: happen to him? This is a guy that's averaged over

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Speaker 1: four yards of kerry his entire career. Cliff Kingsmary asked

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Speaker 1: today about his Pro Bowl running back and just the

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Speaker 1: options having that knowledge conceptually throughout the offseason, you can

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Speaker 1: put in new plays for him, pass plays for him,

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Speaker 1: things they get him isolated or last year we didn't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, he had that in him. So it's definitely

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Speaker 1: opened some things up in the playbook that we can

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Speaker 1: get to using him as a pass catcher. I guess

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Speaker 1: here's my question is how much is too much of

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Speaker 1: James Connor. You have a seventeen game regular season. He

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Speaker 1: has the capability of being every down running back. You

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Speaker 1: certainly don't want him every down and you have a

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Speaker 1: deep running back room now with Darryl Williams. You know,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin who got a shout out from coach Cliff today,

806
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Speaker 1: is having maybe the best offseason of any player on

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Speaker 1: the roster. Jonathan Ward has been dynamic at times and

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Speaker 1: is a tough runner as well who can catch the

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Speaker 1: ball So if you're coach Cliff, I mean, and we

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Speaker 1: know he wasn't one hundred percent in the playoff game

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Speaker 1: James Connor, which another tough aspect of that loss at

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Speaker 1: the Rams. So you're gonna have to choose your spots

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Speaker 1: to some degree, aren't you. No, Yeah, Paul, I mean honestly,

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Speaker 1: when you think of all the talent on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, it truly is pretty incredible. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know they're not going to have DeAndre Hopkins for

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Speaker 1: the first six weeks of the season, but man, I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think about spreading the ball ball, Yeah, with all

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Speaker 1: of those weapons out there. I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: James Connor can be that every down guy, But you

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Speaker 1: know what, you don't want a running back to have

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Speaker 1: to be and every down guy. Even Derrick Henry is

823
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Speaker 1: not an every down back with the Tennessee Titans, even

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Speaker 1: they like to mix it up. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's important that the Arizona Cardinals really monitor the

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Speaker 1: reps that James or gets. No, that's that's a really

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Speaker 1: good point in terms of the reps in the usage.

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Speaker 1: You know, Coach Cliff has said and he said again

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Speaker 1: this week that you know what, when the Cardinals offense

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Speaker 1: was really rolling, they were running the ball. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: now have Darryl Williams, they you know, you know, Benjamin

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Speaker 1: and Jonathan Ward. I mean, so what Degredia think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a rotation or just in general? Do you

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Speaker 1: believe him when he says, you know what, there might

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Speaker 1: be a renewed emphasis on running the ball. No, I

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Speaker 1: totally believe that, Paulie. It's got to happen for the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. You have to attack the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: You go back and you watch the tape. You go

839
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Speaker 1: look at it, paul I'm telling you right now, for

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Speaker 1: the first ten or twelve weeks of the season, they

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Speaker 1: were attacking in between the tackles, and that's when their

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Speaker 1: offense was the best. In particular, go back and look

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Speaker 1: at the first five weeks of the season when you

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Speaker 1: And when you try to respect both, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: The two wins with Colt McCoy, what did the Cardinals do?

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