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Speaker 1: we are on location today on a beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We are at Povich Field, home of the Bethesda Big Train.

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Speaker 2: In this place, this place a specialty, right.

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Speaker 3: This is the cal Ripken College Summer League, Okay, And

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Speaker 3: this is where kids from college kids from all over

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Speaker 3: play at night. It's a great thing. And this ballpark, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: means so much to me because I spent all of

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Speaker 3: I used to be the public address guy, Matt Uncle Matt,

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Speaker 3: one team that played here was called Atlantic Masonry, okay,

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Speaker 1: Better than calling them the mercenaries. That should be completely different, right,

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Speaker 3: Got burying the lead. Here, this, of course is Walter Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you I went to Walter Johnson

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Speaker 3: And here Walter Johnson is speaking with Shirley Povich, one

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Speaker 3: as a baseball writer. And miraculously, three years ago I

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Speaker 1: It's great, But it's also sad to think this will

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Speaker 2: Well, it has to be right.

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Speaker 3: And again, Jeff, I have such a connection to this place.

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Speaker 3: But going to Walter Johnson High School, it was more

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Speaker 3: than that, Jeff, I've told you this before. Walter Johnson

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Speaker 1: You know, we have something framed in our basement. Our

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Speaker 1: It was I believe a receipt of a check that

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget our bobblehead arrangement. Here we've got on

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Speaker 3: The gray hair is really unnecessary, Old Dad, that was

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Speaker 2: This is what this place is all about.

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Speaker 1: I had a number of birthday parties here, including I

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Speaker 3: Short, we have buried the lead here, Jeff. Bruce Adams

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Speaker 1: I think that is what makes successful people is being willing.

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Speaker 3: There, right, Totally understand, all right. The other takeaway, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: And speaking of the Blue Jays, Dad, we are going

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm the first to admit I am not

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Speaker 3: All right. The last takeaway, Jeff, is that my friend

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, dad, jumping into the quirk jins, What

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Speaker 3: For We had an amazing Tuesday night in the Big

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Speaker 1: You said nineteen hundred since nineteen hundred, well you got

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Speaker 3: he struck out again. This is the same Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 3: just showing you how difficult the game is. He struck

436
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Speaker 3: out two or more times in nine straight games. Now

437
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: the record is eleven straight games, and that was done

438
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Speaker 3: by Jerry Kousman, who is a pitcher.

439
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he.

440
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 3: Pitched in the seventies for the Mets. So eleven is

441
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: the record. But a bunch of guys have done nine

442
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: straight games with at least two strikeouts. Dave Duncan, Dave Kingman,

443
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: Tyler O'Neill, Michael A. Taylor, Noah Sindegard another pitcher, Dick

444
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: Ellsworth another pitcher, and of course Aaron Judge. So this

445
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: is where the strikeout rate is now. A really good

446
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: player for the best team in the American League just

447
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: finished six games where he struck out at least twice

448
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: in each, totally fourteen strikeouts, which is more than Luisa

449
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: Rise of the Padres has all season and Riley Green,

450
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 3: who's a really good player, did it in six games. Also,

451
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: speaking of strikeouts, Brandon Young of the Orioles, in his

452
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: fifth major league start, had an immaculate inning in the

453
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 3: game against the Mets. He struck out Jesse Winker, Jeff McNeil,

454
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 3: and Luis Terenz in the fifth inning nine pitches, not

455
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: three strikeouts. Is that an immaculate inning for you?

456
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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt.

457
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 3: And we been over this, Jeff. There are people I

458
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: know who think it should not be an immaculate inning

459
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: if somebody makes contact with the ball, like someone hits

460
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: a five hundred foot foul ball down the left field line,

461
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: therefore it is not an immaculate inning. I don't buy that.

462
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: That would be like saying, if someone hit a five

463
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: hundred foot home run down you know, the left field

464
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: line foul, it's not a perfect game because he almost

465
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: hit a home run if he hit it three inches

466
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: shorter right to.

467
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: The right right. Totally totally agree. All right, pictures of

468
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: record in one game this week, this is a stretch

469
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: of all stretch. We had Jansen junk against Brady Singer,

470
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: So we had a junk Singer.

471
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: I had a junk Singer I love that. That's a

472
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: good one.

473
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: I saw that one too, and I thought it was

474
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: too much of a stretch.

475
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: But it was too much of a stretch, Jef, Yeah,

476
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: but you actually saw it.

477
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: I saw it.

478
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: Too, and I mean that's more of a stretch than

479
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: most first basement make Yeah.

480
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: I agree. And Jake Berger, who again is in every

481
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: episode because we love him because he by the way,

482
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: his running speed the other day was twenty nine point

483
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: three miles per hour. Jake Berger is a rather heavy

484
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: set guy, and they're a peace in the league who

485
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: don't think he can run. And I'm telling you, I

486
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: watched him in that three game series. He is almost

487
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: a well above average runner. And I asked him about

488
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: it and he goes, you know, for years, he said,

489
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: in this league, people didn't know that I could run,

490
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: and I got some midfield hits because they thought I

491
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: was some big, fat guy who couldn't run. He goes,

492
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: but now the book's out on me. Nobody. Now they

493
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: rushed the ball to first because they know that I

494
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: can run.

495
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: That's so funny. It's like the best kept secret.

496
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Like everyone sees him at bat and they the shortstop

497
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of lazies it up.

498
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: And he ends up running it out right.

499
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I asked him, of course, I always asked

500
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: him about his great matchup, said, because you know, he's

501
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: had the Burger King matchup several times with three different

502
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: guys named King in the Big League. So he told

503
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: me with a great laugh, he said, I was watching

504
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: the MLB network the other day and they had the

505
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: best at bat the five best at bats, you know,

506
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: pitcher batter at bats like of last year, and there

507
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: was no Burger King in there. And he said, he

508
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: called Michael King and said, what about us? How can

509
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: we not be on that list?

510
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Speaker 2: I Burger King on it.

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

512
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: They get to mention every other week on this show

513
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: for good lord sake.

514
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: Does Yeah, all right, Dad, on this date in baseball history,

515
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: what do you have for us?

516
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay? Nineteen sixty eight, Earl Weaver was named the manager

517
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: of the Orioles and became for me certainly one of

518
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: the five greatest managers of all time. The things I

519
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: learned from Earl Weaver covering that team late seventies, early eighties,

520
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: and then every day with Earl Weaver in nineteen eighty six,

521
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: nobody taught me more about the game than Earl Weaver.

522
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: And the only Earl Weaver story you need to know

523
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: is that he was rough with some of his players. Okay,

524
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: he didn't min mince words with anybody, and they were

525
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: all kind of afraid of him, but they all played

526
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: for him no matter what, partly because they were afraid

527
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 3: of him, even though he was five to six. So

528
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: Pat Kelly, one of their outfielders, decided, while playing for

529
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: the Orioles, while playing for Earl, that he was gonna

530
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: he was going to join the ministry. So he became

531
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Speaker 3: an ordained minister.

532
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

533
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: Okay. So he waits, though for the proper time to

534
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: go tell Earl about this big change in his life,

535
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 3: and he goes finally find to the moment and he

536
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: says to Early. He says, Earl, I'm gonna walk with

537
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: the Lord, and Earl said, I right, you walk with

538
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: the bases loaded, which typical response.

539
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: From Earl, Dad, did you know that I'm ordained?

540
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: Yes, you are. How many weddings have you done?

541
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well, I mean I did one wedding ceremony

542
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: in which I married five couples at one time, So

543
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: I only count that as one wedding ceremony.

544
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: In Las Vegas.

545
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: We did it on the high Roller, which is the

546
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: big Ferris wheel, right, which I know you would.

547
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: Never ride, not a chance.

548
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: Scared of heights way too high, right, I'm even scared

549
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: being this tall?

550
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: How many times be til that joke on this show?

551
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: Right?

552
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: I see I couldn't drink it as a kid. I

553
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: used to get vertigo. Yeah, that was bad, all right.

554
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: Ronnie danger for all right?

555
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: Two thousand and sevens seaking of inside the Park homers.

556
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: On this date, two thousand and seven, each Row hit

557
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: the only inside park inside the park home run in

558
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: the history of the All Star Game.

559
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

560
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was there. I was in the dugout.

561
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: I interviewed him afterwards with an interpreter about running around

562
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: the bases and an inside the park homer. It was

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: absolutely priceless. And on this date, in nineteen fifty four,

564
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: Andre Dawson, Hall of Famer, was born. Andre Dawson is

565
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: one of the toughest, strongest players. I've ever seen a

566
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: Gold Glove outfielder hit the ball out of the ballpark,

567
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 3: and I play this is terribly self serving. I played

568
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: with him in the Celebrity Softball Game in Washington and

569
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: one inning, one inning and again, this is one of

570
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: the great defensive outfielders ever. But you know he's sixty

571
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: years old. When he's playing in the celebrity softball game,

572
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: there was a pretty high pop up and I run

573
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: over to see if I can catch it, but he's

574
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: got it, and the ball hit him in the head

575
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: bound straight off the top, right off his head. So

576
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: I saw his wife the next year at Cooperstown and

577
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: she said that she told him that's it. You're not playing, wow,

578
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: even softball anymore. After getting hit in the head with

579
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: a routine pop up at first base in a celebrity

580
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: softball game, that's.

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00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Probably for the better.

582
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Speaker 1: Yes, from Ozzie to Oral, my dad is going to

583
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: give you the best player to wear each number from

584
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: one to fifty five in baseball history.

585
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: Dad, we are on too, number twenty seven.

586
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: Yes, and for many years it was Juan Marischal, the

587
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: great Dominican dandy, and then maybe there was also a

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: Lad Guerrero in there because he wore number twenty seven.

589
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: But I think we got to turn to Mike Trout.

590
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: Mike Traut's gotta be the greatest number twenty seven of

591
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: all time. I know he's been hurt a lot lately, Jeff,

592
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: and I know, maybe he's not the player he used

593
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: to be, But for an eight year period, people were saying,

594
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: this is the best player we've ever seen. It's really

595
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: closer to ten years that he did it. He finished

596
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: in the top two of the MVP voting the first

597
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: five years of his career, winning the MVP twice. No

598
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: one has ever finished in the top two of the

599
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: MVP voting in his first five full years, even twice.

600
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: He did it his first five years. Wow, that's how

601
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: great Mike Trout was. He's still a really good power hitter.

602
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: So Jeff. At ESPN, Raoul Labanye is used to work

603
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: at ESPN. One of my favorite people ever, and he

604
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: was a teammate with Mike Trout. Mike Trout's the most

605
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: humble guy in the world. And Mike Trout's and VP

606
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: during spring training one year and he looks at Raoul

607
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Labanya's and he says, I'm going to hit a home

608
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: run in that trash can out there, which is beyond

609
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: the left center field fence at the Angels' spring training facility. Jeff,

610
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't a dumpster. It was like a big one

611
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: of those big green cans right, right, but not too

612
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: terribly big right, And like eleven pitches later, Mike Trout

613
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: hit a home run into the trash can. So I

614
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: finally go to him and say, did you you hit

615
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: a homer into the trash can? And he's so humble

616
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: he wouldn't answer the question. Finally I said, look, bon

617
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: just told me you hit one in the trash can?

618
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: Did you or didn't you? He sorried, I hit one of

619
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: the trash can And it wasn't the only time that

620
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: spring that he did it. This is how competitive he is.

621
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: He has to hit a ball into a trash can.

622
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: But I think he's the greatest number twenty seven ever.

623
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: He's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

624
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: And if anyone thinks these injuries has taken away his

625
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame career, you need to look at those

626
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: numbers again.

627
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: What about number twenty eight, the greatest player of all

628
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: time to wear that number, from Ozzie to Oral.

629
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Speaker 3: What do you got? I got Burt Blylevin. He won

630
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty seven games. Okay, he struck out

631
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: three thousand, seven hundred and one batters. That's the fifth

632
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: most strikeouts in major league history. He threw, Jeff, he

633
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: threw sixty shutouts. That's the ninth most ever sixty shutouts.

634
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: So different time, different era, different pitchers. But Greg Maddox

635
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: and Tom Glavin together through sixty shutouts exactly. And Bert

636
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: bly Levin did that by himself, had one of the

637
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: great curveballs of all time and definitely deserving of the

638
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: greatest number twenty eight ever.

639
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: All right, Dad, are we moving on to the blue

640
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Jays best of all? Tim, I've really been anticipating learning

641
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: about this player who I'm just learning played major League baseball.

642
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: Jefting, No, it's not embarrassing, Jeff. You weren't even born

643
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: when this guy was really really good. Now, look, there

644
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: were great blue Jays. This was not an easy choice.

645
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: Roberto Alomar for a short period is the greatest blue

646
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Jay ever, but didn't stay there long enough. Roy Halliday

647
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: very much in the discussion. Carlos Delgado an amazing player,

648
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: but I'm going with Dave Steve Pitcher for the Blue Jays.

649
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: He spent fifteen years with the Blue Jays. He made

650
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: seven All Star teams while he was there. He was

651
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: drafted and developed by the Blue Jays. He was really

652
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: the first star player that they ever had. He's the

653
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: only blue Jay ever to throw a no hitter. In

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: the decade of the eighties. The only pitcher that had

655
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: more wins than him was Hall of Famer Jack Morris,

656
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: and Dave Steve had one of the great sliders that

657
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. He was a maniacal competitor, and I

658
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: think baseball kind of has left him out of the

659
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: discussion for certainly among the most underrated pitchers that we've

660
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: ever seen. And this has always struck me. Right handed pitcher,

661
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: great slider. He shot a basketball with his left hand,

662
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, really, Yeah, I've always been fascinated.

663
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: You know how much I love it. So he's amphibious.

664
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Yes, he can throw a ball underwater. He's amphibious. Yes.

665
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: So Dave Steve for me, is the greatest blue Jay

666
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: of all time. And we're doing this as a tribute

667
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: to the Blue Jays, who are the hottest team in

668
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: baseball as of right now.

669
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Speaker 2: All right, Dad, do you have a Team Tim for us?

670
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: These have been and honestly, Dad, the biggest response from

671
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: our family is the Team Tims. They absolutely love these.

672
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: They always respect with theirs. And I'm going to come

673
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: up with my all Music team next night week. But

674
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: next week, just really fast. Next week is the All

675
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Star Game, right, so we're going to do a couple

676
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: All Star specials. Tuesday night is the All Star Game,

677
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: and then on Wednesday on the Feed, we'll have Hall

678
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: of Famer Chipper Jones. I mean, when you talk about

679
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, when you talk about the Atlanta Brads,

680
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: when you talk about them hosting the All Star Game,

681
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that's the guy you've got to get.

682
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: And I thought I knew Chipper Jones really well because

683
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: I've interviewed him a thousand times. He told at least

684
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: three stories that I have never heard before.

685
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: Excited for Chipper, But what do we have for Team

686
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Tim today?

687
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So, as a tribute to Miguel Cairo, the new

688
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: manager of the Washington Nets right by the way, is

689
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: a great baseball guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he

690
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: kept that job in Washington for a long time. Been

691
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: around a lot of great managers in his time, a

692
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: lot of great players in his time. I think he's

693
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: perfectly suited for that team and what they're trying to do.

694
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: So he is our second baseman that our catcher is

695
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: Benito Santiago. I was trying to go with all non

696
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: US cities, but I couldn't find them all, so I

697
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: did the best I could. Mike Napoli is the first baseman.

698
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you pronounced the city in Italy

699
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: as Napoli or Nepoli, what do you think it is?

700
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: Well, if they don't have a baseball team, you and

701
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I are pretty much helpless on fingering.

702
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: It out right. Yes, absolutely, Kelly Paris is the third baseman.

703
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Houston Jimenez is our shortstop. That's a double one right there. Yes,

704
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: Dallas Williams is one outfielder. Luis Medina or Medina whatever

705
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna call it about is from Saudi Arabia. Leon Wagner,

706
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: Leon or Leone is a city in Mexico. Nice, and

707
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: our pitching staff is Alex Madrid, Paul, Moscow spelled Moskau,

708
00:34:53,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: love that, Jose Lima, Peru, Rome Chambers, and Sydney not

709
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: spelled syd nyy but Si d Anywhy Sydney Ponson. So

710
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: that's our all cities team, And every one of these

711
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: cities is huge, So I didn't just pick tiny cities.

712
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: These are all like among the biggest cities in the world.

713
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: And we started with Miguel Cairo because he's the new

714
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: manager of the Nationals. And now we welcome in our

715
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: dear friend Bruce Adams, who is the founder and president

716
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: of Bethesda Community Baseball Club. Bruce, this is Jeff Kirchin.

717
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: You've seen him since he was ten years old. Thanks

718
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: for joining us today.

719
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: Well, this is like a reunion from the birthday parties

720
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: he used to have.

721
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we already talked about those.

722
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I mean just right behind us is where we used

723
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: to have pizza and we would play catch.

724
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: This is this is part that's part of.

725
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: That's so what it's all about.

726
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: Mike Vick taught me fun is good and that's what

727
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: we try to do here at Shirley Poe's Field.

728
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: Bruce, when did the idea come to you that we

729
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: need to honor Walter Johnson, Shirley Povich and get a

730
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: collegiate baseball league to play here. When did that come

731
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: to you?

732
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: You didn't come to me in that order. I was

733
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to raise money to fix

734
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: fields for kids, and I wasn't getting anywhere. And then

735
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: our family was on a trip for we were doing

736
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: a book for photoors on family baseball vacations, and my

737
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: son was five years old. So he went to the

738
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: visiting team Bullpen because they always gave him balls. And

739
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: he's talking to them about this trip we'd taken all

740
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: over America and the guy says to me, summer college baseball.

741
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: And all I could say was Cape cod That's all

742
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: I knew. And the guy says, no, I played in

743
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: the Shenandoah Valley last year. I said, you're pulling my leg.

744
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm a baseball fanatic. I lived ninety minutes from the valley.

745
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: Couldn't be true. Turned out, we spent the next summer,

746
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: my wife and I. We wrote a piece for the

747
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: Western Posts Honey magazine about the Shenandoah Valley League and

748
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 4: I just fell in love with it. It was two

749
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: of my passions. It was community and baseball. And that's

750
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: what summer college baseball is all about, is to give

751
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: these guys a chance. You know, in college they play

752
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: with their stupid metal bats, and so summer college baseball

753
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 4: gives them a chance to play with a wood. That's

754
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: what Major League Baseball wants to see. So it's a

755
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: great opportunity for these guys to develop their talents. Twenty

756
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: five of our guys who played here at Poviche Field

757
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: for the Big Train have made it to the major leagues.

758
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: But the other part of the equation is community.

759
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: You know.

760
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: The historian Jacques Barzon said that if you want to

761
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: understand America, you got to learn about baseball, and then

762
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: he went on to say, but if you really want

763
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 4: to learn about baseball, you got to see it at

764
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: a small town kind of format. And so here at Povichfield,

765
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: we've got a small ballpark hold seven hundred people. We

766
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: call it small town charm and big league talent.

767
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: Bruce, I want to ask you about something my dad

768
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: will not bring up because he's the most humble man

769
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: in the world. Talk about what Tim Kirkshin has. He

770
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: has a plaque over there. But it also it comes

771
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: with a program. And we're going to ignore my dad for.

772
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: A minute because I think this is really special and.

773
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Really cool, and remembering my dad's amazing Hall of Fame

774
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: baseball writing career, how.

775
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: Lucky are we at the Big Train to have a

776
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: friend like Tim Kirchin. I mean, your dad has been

777
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 4: here every year I go listen to the talk. He

778
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: gives to the Big Train players before the game. When

779
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: he comes each year, it is so inspiring. He tells him,

780
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: you're doing one of the hardest things you can do

781
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: in sports. You've reached an incredible level and you have

782
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: a chance to go even further. So we adore Tim Kirchen,

783
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: your dad. He does our fundraiser each winter. He comes

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 4: out and sees the players and the fans each year.

785
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: And so when we created a summer internship program. You know,

786
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: it's cool on your resume to say Big Train intern, right, right,

787
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: But how cool is it to say Tim Kirchin sports

788
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: journalism fellow.

789
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: I mean, how cool is that?

790
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: So we got a beautiful plaque up on the wall

791
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: right next to Mike Beck and Bill Beck because our

792
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: game operations interns are Veck fellows and our journalism interns

793
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: are Kirchen Fellows.

794
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: Well, it's really neat too, Dad, And I'm going to

795
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: stop here.

796
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: Is the field is named after Shirley Povitch, for goodness sake,

797
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: who was a writer, right, and then we have the

798
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Tim Kirkchen fellows, which is so neat.

799
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: And this is kind of funny.

800
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: At Alabama, his dad, who I was named after, Jeff Kirkshen,

801
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: there's a Jeff Kirkshin Teaching award. So I remember googling

802
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: my name when Google became a thing when I was ten,

803
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: and I saw who are these people winning a Jeff

804
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Kirkshen award?

805
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: And what is that?

806
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: Now they can say the Jeff Kirkshin Teaching Award named

807
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: after your dad, and a Tim Kirkshen fellow named after

808
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: you dad.

809
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: And my father neglected to tell us that there was

810
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: an award? Is that right? That's crazy the way you

811
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: have been.

812
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: Hey, well, how many full life bronze sculptures of journalists

813
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: have you seen. We've got Shirley right over our shoulder

814
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: here interviewing with his pad and his pencil, interviewing the

815
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: great Walter Johnson.

816
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: And they look, it's an absolutely.

817
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: Tremendous Toby Mendez, who did the sculptures of all the

818
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: Oil Hall of Famers at Camden Yards, who did teammates

819
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: at Fenway, who did through Good Marshall in Annapolis, did

820
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: these fantastic sculptures here. My partner in building Povich Field

821
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: was John Horsman, and John said he wanted this to

822
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: be a living baseball history museum. So we have murals

823
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: with the history of Walder Johnson and Shirley Povich. Now

824
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 4: we have these sculptures behind us. Over our other shoulder,

825
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: we have kind of a street sign that shows you

826
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: where the twenty five guys who played for Big Train

827
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: made their major league debuts.

828
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: This is so cool, Bruce. I'm telling you, when I

829
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: go out and meet major league players, I talked to

830
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 3: every one of them that has played here, and they

831
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: have nothing but great things to say. They always say,

832
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: make sure you said hi to Bruce for me. How

833
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: does that make you feel? That that Hunter Brown is

834
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: pitching in the All Star Game and he asks about

835
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 3: you every time I see him.

836
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: Thank you. He's these guys are unbelievable. So I'm trying

837
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: to collect a couple of balls and get all their

838
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: signatures on it. I've got the thirteen now, but just

839
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: to a Hunter Brown, what a beautiful human being he is,

840
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: and what an incredible career he's had. And he says

841
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: that some of the change happened here with a little

842
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: bit of tweaking and some growth and development, And that's

843
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: just mind blowing to me. You know, I'm looking at

844
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: Baseball America's top one hundred players in the MLB that

845
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: came out in whatever it was January and February. There's

846
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: Logan Gilbert right near the top, and I'm like, wow,

847
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: a big trained player. And then there's Hunter And we're

848
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: putting Hunter Brown and Jordan Westberg in our hall, in

849
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: our Ripken Hall of Fame this year. They're both in

850
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: that in that top hundred. And it's just a thrill

851
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: to be able to know these guys and know that

852
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: they played here and that we had a little bit

853
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: to do with their development.

854
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: Bruce, we got to let you go because you got

855
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: things to do. But just tell us quickly, where did

856
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: your love of baseball come from? When did it grab you?

857
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: So this is crazy. My dad grew up in Bethesda,

858
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: and there he had a friend whose dad was a

859
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: baseball guy. And so when they were like twelve and

860
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: thirteen and fourteen, the dad picked my dad up and

861
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: drove him down to Griffith Stadium to hang out with

862
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: his son. And the dad was Walter Johnson.

863
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: No, Wow, you don't know this story, dad, Oh my gosh,

864
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: is that Did you know that my dad went to

865
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: Walter Johnson High School?

866
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: Wrong?

867
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: I only knew that like a thousand times it's.

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Speaker 3: Running joke on the podcast. All right.

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Speaker 4: Well, the last thing I want to say though, is,

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Speaker 4: you know, these are difficult times and summer baseball ads.

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Speaker 4: It's more than baseball. You know. Baseball is our platform,

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Speaker 4: but building a stronger community is our purpose. And this

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Speaker 4: is a place that we need, these special places where

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Speaker 4: people can come together, talk, enjoy themselves, have a good

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Speaker 4: time across lines of difference. And surely Povidchfield is one

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Speaker 4: of those places.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it is.

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Speaker 3: And it's such a thrill for me. Once a year

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Speaker 3: I get to throw out the first ball at the

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Speaker 3: Big Train. We're gonna do that on Thursday night. I

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Speaker 3: can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Great. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Bruce, and we end every show by saying to

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Speaker 1: all of our listeners, we call them our family, and

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Speaker 1: you're part of our family too. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being a part of our family. And come visit

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Speaker 1: Povichfield for a game soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks first, Thanks guys,