WEBVTT - The Season with Peter Schrager: Texans GM Nick Caserio

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<v Speaker 1>The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, everybody, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of the Season with Peter Schreger. I'm Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Schreeger recording this on a Monday, November sixth, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got my lovely producer, Aaron wan Kaufman here, Aerin. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought yesterday, with four games that were kind of billed

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<v Speaker 1>as premiere games, was one of those great NFL Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet what happens when you do that, when you

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<v Speaker 1>hype certain games, you get these other sneaky ones. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to start this podcast off by talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Dobbs and the Minnesota Vikings and what an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>story that is. I'm personally close to this. Josh Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>and I have become friendly over the years. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a Tennessee quarterback and then he obviously goes to Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Steevens is the third stream quarter record as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>those beloved guys in the league. But why I have

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<v Speaker 1>a connection to Dobbs. He did this thing where he

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<v Speaker 1>did an externship with NASA and it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season a couple of years back where he was

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<v Speaker 1>in I think an aeroscience major or arow is that

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<v Speaker 1>even a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron aeroscience?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? I think aeroscience engineering major in college. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly this was not my forte And in our off

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<v Speaker 1>season shows for Good Morning Football, it's like, who's doing

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<v Speaker 1>something cool this offseason in the world of football?

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<v Speaker 2>Who wants to come on as a guest? And Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Dobbs came on.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it was a summer of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty twenty one, probably three to four times. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he and I struck up a friendship over text

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<v Speaker 1>and like always just wish Josh Dobbs well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he goes to Cleveland. Then he goes to last

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<v Speaker 1>year on like short day notice, like maybe like a

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<v Speaker 1>random like fifteen days like heads up. He goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee where he ends up starting at their final game

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<v Speaker 1>of the regular season and almost beating the jar and

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<v Speaker 1>a winning in game played very valiantly, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this dude, like good for him, Like Josh Dobbs,

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<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. Then this year, with eight days you know,

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<v Speaker 1>left before the start of the regular season, he's traded

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<v Speaker 1>to the Arizona Cardinals, and he starts Week one for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, and a couple of weeks later, he's beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys in a game, and we had this really

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<v Speaker 1>funny moment on the show where he was like, Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>was at the Arizona Cardinals team store and they had

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<v Speaker 1>all the different team jerseys, and he did a little

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram video where he's like, I can't even get my

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<v Speaker 1>own jersey. They don't sell my own jersey. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback of the team. They don't steal a Dobbs jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had such a fun time with that, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I reached out to Mark Dalton, who's the PR

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<v Speaker 1>guy for the Arizona Cardinals, and I'm like, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to get me a Dobbs when you start selling those

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<v Speaker 1>Dobs jerseys. Sure enough, Mark gets it to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>rocking a Dalton a Dobbs jersey multiple times in the

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<v Speaker 1>past few weeks, almost as a goof, but also because

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<v Speaker 1>we got love for this guy. Sure Enough, Cousins goes

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<v Speaker 1>down with the injury and my phone starts buzzing on

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline day that you know, the the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>are making calls. I thought they were gonna sign Colt

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<v Speaker 1>McCoy Culte. McCoy had played for Kevin O'Connell for three

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<v Speaker 1>years in Washington. He's a free agent. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the move. Instead, they trade for Josh Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't send a note to Dobbs. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine the whorld winning this guy. As

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out later that he still hadn't moved into

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<v Speaker 1>his place in Arizona yet, he has unpacked bags and

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<v Speaker 1>several shipments that still were coming for the Arizona house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now he moves to Minnesota and they're like, we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>Jaren Hall, who's a fifth round pick and has been

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<v Speaker 1>the backup and they really like him. And he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of BYU and he's got Jaren Hall, and what I think,

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<v Speaker 1>what mighte be? Like? The second drive runs around like

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<v Speaker 1>a chicken with his head cuddle. It gets Clawbern and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>Right away, oh, we got Dobs. Has the play? Tops

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<v Speaker 2>has the play? Now? I know Dobbs just got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everyone who's listening might say, yeah, well, Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 1>did this last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield got there on a Tuesday to the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>and beat the Raiders on a Thursday. Very very incredible

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<v Speaker 1>quick turnaround, get it. But also Baker was the number one,

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<v Speaker 1>so Baker took the number one snaps in practice, Baker

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to do a crash course.

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<v Speaker 2>Baker was there all night with McVeigh. Josh Dobbs not

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<v Speaker 2>the number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaron Hall this week took the number one snaps. He

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<v Speaker 1>just got there on Wednesday. He had never taken a

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<v Speaker 1>rep with the first team offense before they played this

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<v Speaker 1>game on Sunday afternoon against the Atlanta Falcons. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>thrown into the game and he saw the footage. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines and he's practicing the cadence with Garrett Bradberry,

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<v Speaker 1>their starting center, and the rest of the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>I was amazed by this watching this and then he

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<v Speaker 1>goes out there, Aaron.

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<v Speaker 2>He was awesome. He was awesome. This is against the

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<v Speaker 2>number six defense in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>It's against Arthur Smith coached offensive was hum and also

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<v Speaker 1>with Heineke.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also was on the road, so you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the road crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>He had never taken a snap with any of these players,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough. On a fourth and seven, wiggles out

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<v Speaker 1>of the sack, runs, makes a play, gets the first down,

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<v Speaker 1>moves the chains, and then throws a game winning touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>to Powell. The Josh Doabs stuff is incredible. More and

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<v Speaker 1>more stuff keeps on trickling out. I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was Kevin Seffert from ESPN had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>really good tweets about how he didn't know all the

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<v Speaker 1>names to all the players on his team and he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't taken and he's and he was like just freestyling

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<v Speaker 1>it with with Kevin O'Connell. I called O'Connell yesterday. We spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, just give me anything. Ye He's like, dude, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable because as the game is going,

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<v Speaker 1>what we did was for Josh to keep it simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, here is the most basic stuff, maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen plays, like what you need to know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the most pig and he ran the full playbook and

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of did it on like an improvisational whim,

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<v Speaker 1>like I am so blown away by what Josh did.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Jobs did yesterday. And then here's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the Vikings are five and four, and they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the playoffs picture in the NAC The Giants done,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams look to be done. The Packers aren't scaring anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's team? Who's that six? There's seventh? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go through it, Aaron. You got Cowboys and Eagles, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's two there. Let's say the Saints win the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC South, so there's your third NFC North.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lions is your fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the five and the six being probably the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners in the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a seventh spot sitting there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be who the Buccaneers, the Falcons. Who's beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons? The Buccaneers, I don't know. Panthers aren't doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>Giants are done, Commanders.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike's selling players off at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I mean this Vikings team could be really, really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And Josh Jobs is a heck of a story. The

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<v Speaker 1>other story I want to talk about is the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we were piping up the Chiefs, Dolphins into Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens into Eagles, Cowboys into Bill's Bengals. We hyped it

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<v Speaker 1>up as like these are like the four premier matchups

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<v Speaker 1>of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason to talk about the other games. They're

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<v Speaker 2>so good. And then you had that.

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<v Speaker 1>One in the early window, and then in the four

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock window, here come the Raiders blow out the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>What a story that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw the Jay Glazer report that you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>my report in the morning, was that people were surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that Ziggiler lost his job at the GM because he

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilt the whole front office over the last off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have like a legitimate front office where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in years past, people would look at the Raiders front

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<v Speaker 1>office and say, okay, well that's that's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>wild wild West situation out there. Now they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they hired from some of the best teams and Ziggler

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<v Speaker 1>is really.

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<v Speaker 2>Building it up. He gets fired. But also Mick Lombardi,

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<v Speaker 2>who if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to Mike Lombardi, who's on a lot of these podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>does a GM shuffle couse that's his son, Mike, Mick Lombardi.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a Belichick for years. He gets fired also,

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<v Speaker 1>So you fire the head coach the GM and.

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<v Speaker 2>The offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>So the quarterbacks coach, Bo Haggerty, he takes over as

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator and calling plays. Sure enough, the team looked alive.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked great. Antonio Pierce has those guys humming. They

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<v Speaker 1>look awesome. They're moving the ball, like just really really

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring stuff. Then after the game, they're smoking cigars, they're

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<v Speaker 1>dancing in the locker room and Antonio Pearce, who's rocking

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<v Speaker 1>two earrings, and I said, I'm good morning football. Think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first head coach in NFL history to wear

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<v Speaker 1>two earrings on the sideline, says, you guys are off

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<v Speaker 1>till Wednesday. And like you could see in that little video,

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<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Adams nodding, smiling, like gosh, it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud was lifted. And I'll be completely honest. And our

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<v Speaker 1>guests today as a long relationship with them too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I like Josh McDaniels. I don't play for Josh McDaniels.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a media guy and Josh mctaniels has always been

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<v Speaker 1>great to me and I've had a good relationship. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a family man. Like feels like a totally different team.

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<v Speaker 1>And now suddenly they're alive. They're four and five, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a real team. Raiders look good. I mean Devant Adams

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<v Speaker 1>is still good. Josh Jacobs look good, Max Crosby look good.

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<v Speaker 1>I look around the league and it's it's it's every

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<v Speaker 1>week is different story. Because I was ready to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and Aaron, I mean, like, we talked Seattle two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, like, oh my god, Seattle, well they just

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<v Speaker 1>got the doors on off them. We talked the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>the first five weeks, and they've now lost three in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. And I'll tell you you, look at what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on around the league. The team that I think

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<v Speaker 1>might be the most exciting and the one that has

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<v Speaker 1>me out of my seat the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch any of that game? Oh yeah, Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud though for four seventy and five touchdowns, the most

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<v Speaker 1>passing yards of ever buy a rookie, the most touchdowns ever

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<v Speaker 1>buy a rookie, but they also had to go on

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<v Speaker 1>a game winning drive in the final minute and he

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<v Speaker 1>did the job and found Tank Dell Oh yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow rookie for the score. So as we look at

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<v Speaker 1>things here, this is kind of the halfway mark. There's

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen regular season weeks. We're through nine of them. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a Jets Chargers game tonight. I think the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is wide open. I would say my Super Bowl pick

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<v Speaker 1>before the season was Chiefs over Niners. I'll stick with

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<v Speaker 1>it as good as the Eagles. Look, Aaron, what was yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Mine was Eagles over Bengals?

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<v Speaker 2>And would you off it or would you stick with it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually kind of feeling okay with it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like you said, Niners have suddenly just hit

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<v Speaker 4>this weird streak losing, and you know, Bengals last night

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<v Speaker 4>like they're they're overcoming whatever ills they had in the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of the season. Yeah, and Higgins was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like posting people up last night.

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<v Speaker 1>For ten catches there tight ends that have not played

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<v Speaker 1>many roles. Yeah, Tanner, Hudson, IRV Smith and Drew Sample, those.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys were all the place.

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<v Speaker 1>So I asked you about as a Bills fan, like

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<v Speaker 1>you panic mode.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think panic mode. But it's in the last

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<v Speaker 4>three weeks the Bills have not scored. They haven't scored

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<v Speaker 4>like they should, like obviously, they're too many injuries. The

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<v Speaker 4>defense is getting hurt all the time. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>every week I'm just texting my dad during the game,

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<v Speaker 4>like how are we so injured every week? I love

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<v Speaker 4>seeing Dalton Kincaid get some great work, but it's rough.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do think the Bengals are a very good team,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if the Ravens weren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they are, yeah, then this is good, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals of red hot. They've now swept the last three.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Seahawks, they beat the Niners, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they beat last night the Bills. Those are three real teams.

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<v Speaker 1>They played the Texans this weekend and then they have

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens again. So they've got their they've got their

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<v Speaker 1>slight ahead of them. Real quick quick story. My son

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<v Speaker 1>is a big Tyreek Hill fan, and like everything is

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Will Clark fan when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch baseball as a kid? Like Will Clark

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<v Speaker 1>was on the San Francisco Giants. I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants little league team and Will Clark was their first baseman.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like late eighties, and he was will to

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<v Speaker 1>throw and he was great, and he was lefty and

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<v Speaker 1>he was great.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was like my guy as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And my brother was done maddingly and I was Will

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<v Speaker 1>Clark like we had our guys. My son just loves

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill and everything about him. Watches like YouTube highlights

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<v Speaker 1>and he's only seven, like die Hard, right, So going

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<v Speaker 1>in this is like a parenting corner type thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>biting off Simmons, I guess. So going into this game,

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<v Speaker 1>I want my son to watch the Frankfurt game. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, you know, I think the Chiefs are going

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>And I gave them all my reasons why.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Dolphins, uh, you know, are coming in hot,

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<v Speaker 1>but they struggle against.

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<v Speaker 2>The best teams in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think the Chiefs such a veteran team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was really big on Spagnolo and the defense knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been papping myself in the back on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So long story short, saying my son, I've never done this, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make a bet. So my son collects these toys

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<v Speaker 1>called squeeze Mates. Okay, never had them as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>They are like literally there's these little toys, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. They are all the different.

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<v Speaker 2>Players in the league, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you collect them and each team has

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<v Speaker 1>one and some of them are random, like the Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>One is like Dalton Kincaid, I think, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>One is Michael Pittman Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you've got the Mahomes, and you've got and that,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got like the the Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>They're really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Google Google Squeeze. You have the Max Crosby Squeeze Mates.

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<v Speaker 2>They're ten bucks a pop.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like old starting lineup toys. With these old

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze my son is obsessed. All he wanted for his

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<v Speaker 1>birthday was Squeeze Mates. And like, what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing? You collect them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just have.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, right, So I'm thinking, like a wait, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my son comes to me and says, let's make a bet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh great, all right, all the promo codes

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<v Speaker 1>we're giving out or paying off here, let's think a bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, he's a picky eater, my son mel He'll eat

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<v Speaker 1>pasta and butter every meal. He'll have pizza every meal.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll have bagel and cream cheese every meal. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he eats, all right, doesn'ty vegetables, doesn't eat chicken, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>eat anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, all right, here's the bet.

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<v Speaker 1>If the dolphins win, I will get you a new

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<v Speaker 1>Squeeze Mate next week. This is post birthday, post Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>more gifts, just what the kid needs. I said, if

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs win, you have to have a steak dinner

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<v Speaker 1>with me next week. Now does that sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>punishment to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all?

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds that sounds like quality time with dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Steak dinner. Kids had steak one time in his life.

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<v Speaker 2>He claims he hated it. We don't force it. I

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<v Speaker 2>would love nothing more than a steak dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what world are you living in where if

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<v Speaker 1>you lose, you get a toy and if you win,

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<v Speaker 1>you get.

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<v Speaker 2>A steak at dinner with Dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sign me up for that bet.

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<v Speaker 1>So sure enough, game's going on. I'm texting my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She's out with him. They're watching the marathon. Runners are

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<v Speaker 1>on Fourth Avenue in Brooklyn and they're giving out water

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<v Speaker 1>and they're slapping five and I'm like, it's twenty one nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>tell mel I'm in LA And she's like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put him in a bad mood. I'm not telling him. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty one seven, then it's twenty one to fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, get in front of a TV. Have mel

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<v Speaker 1>watched this end of the game. It comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the final thing to out of a shotgun ball, snap.

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<v Speaker 2>Fumble, japs wind.

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<v Speaker 1>I FaceTime from la as I'm on my way to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport, and I'm like, nol that just my son

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<v Speaker 1>is distraught.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to eat dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have to get I'm just taunting. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we can do flas we get a rib, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly the greatest thing, and like we're in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I will take him anywhere for this, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have like this tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>Now maybe that we could do this.

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<v Speaker 1>He was distraught and then he was so upset, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I got home last night and whatever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to my wife and I'm like I should probably

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<v Speaker 1>still get him the squeeze mate, right, And She's like, no, no, come,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't just always win, and like he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>steak dinner and like when are you going on this

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<v Speaker 1>steak dinner?

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<v Speaker 5>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Like in my head, like it's like a fantasy land.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna take him to like Peter Lueger tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>table for two.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my son wearing Chiefs and Dolphins logos. End

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<v Speaker 2>of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I will keep you up there, and I know everyone

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<v Speaker 1>at home is very, very compelled to learn how this goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Steak Dinner slash Squeeze Mate. Bet they sell

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<v Speaker 1>Squeeze Mates online. But there is one toy store in

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<v Speaker 1>Tribeca on it's like on like church and probably like

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Street, like down there our church and somewhere they

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<v Speaker 1>sell them. And they this random toy store a church

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<v Speaker 1>and read like down there. Like my son knows it,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he wants to go back there. But steak Dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you how it goes. That's important stuff, Aaron.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone needed to hear it real quick. Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you go at?

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about the slash.

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<v Speaker 2>You told me you went to parties with Halloween itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween proper.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's a little depressing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I rushed Elliott Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't dress up for how So I ran.

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<v Speaker 4>I rushed home, and I like got out our big

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<v Speaker 4>bowl I put in.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a bunch of reeses.

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<v Speaker 4>We had some leftover like gushers and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Some weird party we.

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<v Speaker 4>Had typically Yeah, and I sat out there and no

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<v Speaker 4>children came.

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<v Speaker 3>Really as I was walking home from the subway.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw a bunch of kids in costume going into

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<v Speaker 4>bodega's and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta come. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got to the house, like, ran upstairs, filled

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<v Speaker 4>the bowl and I sat there for probably thirty forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>saw no one at all, And eventually I went back

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<v Speaker 4>upstairs and I stayed by the window just in case nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I dressed as a slice of pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>My son, Mel was a slice of pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fits with his Yeah, I was a cheeseburger nice.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife was she kind of she she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting dressed up, but she couldn't just put on

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<v Speaker 1>my cattiers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it counts sixy cats.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then my daughter was a unicorn. We left

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<v Speaker 1>her at home with a babysitter. We went out, three

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<v Speaker 1>of us. My wife lasted a few hours. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>Mel were out late though. We were out till like

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight o'clock, and we went to our favorite pizza

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<v Speaker 1>place for Scotti, which is on Henry Street, Henry in

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<v Speaker 1>between like Orange and Pineapple, probably down in Brooklyn. For

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<v Speaker 1>Scotti cash only old school and usually there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>huge line. We go in and I'm like to the guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we're there all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, guys, look at Mell. They took a photo with mel.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna frame it, gonna put it up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you go at a slice of pizza and

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<v Speaker 1>you get to finish your night with at your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>pizza place, that's pretty damn good. With no further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the general manager of the Houston Texans, a

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<v Speaker 1>team coming off one of the coolest wins in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL during Week nine and of course having one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great starts and surprising starts to the season, the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Texans, Nick Casario.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Peter, Thanks for having us.

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<v Speaker 1>I love having you on. I've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>you on for weeks last year. I tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, we're building something.

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<v Speaker 2>When the time is right, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me and you did me the favorite to come

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<v Speaker 1>on today after yesterday's miracle win. Now when we look

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<v Speaker 1>at that game and we look back at it, you

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<v Speaker 1>lose the kicker scores.

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<v Speaker 2>You have c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud who has more yards and passing touchdowns and any

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<v Speaker 1>rookie in the history of the sport. This is now

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours removed from kickoff last year. Last the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours move from kickoff, Like do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>day to enjoy it or is it on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next one.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to prepare because we've got a big game

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think when you get home at night, you kind

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<v Speaker 6>of reflect and part of you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>coaches my process to go back through the game, kind

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<v Speaker 6>of watch all three phases, kind of see some of

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<v Speaker 6>the things that we did well, what are some areas

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<v Speaker 6>that we can improve, whether some of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>popped up, and that game there was an ab and

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<v Speaker 6>flow to it. First half we probably didn't play as

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<v Speaker 6>well as we either wanted to, kind of got off

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<v Speaker 6>to a slow start, put ourselves a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>a hole.

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<v Speaker 5>But in the second half we held into.

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<v Speaker 6>The field goal and then we were able to go

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<v Speaker 6>down and scoring get some points and then it was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of back and forth here till the end. And

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<v Speaker 6>in the end, it's about players making plays. So this

0:19:48.626 --> 0:19:51.066
<v Speaker 6>is a player's game. It's about the players when they're

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<v Speaker 6>on the field, and our players fought. The one thing

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<v Speaker 6>about this team, and I think it starts with Demiko

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<v Speaker 6>and his thought process and mindset is we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>battle to the end and we're gonna do everything in

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<v Speaker 6>our power to try to give ourselves an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>And we talked about it at halftime a little.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, for as badly as we had played, it

0:20:09.466 --> 0:20:13.226
<v Speaker 6>was a one score game, so let's just for all

0:20:13.266 --> 0:20:15.946
<v Speaker 6>the things that have happened, kind of erased that and

0:20:16.146 --> 0:20:17.466
<v Speaker 6>let's get ready for the second half.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a one score game.

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<v Speaker 6>So we kind of kept chipping away, and you know,

0:20:21.706 --> 0:20:25.346
<v Speaker 6>those last couple series there, we scored. Dari makes the

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<v Speaker 6>field goal, which was interesting. It was a discussion. He

0:20:28.026 --> 0:20:30.786
<v Speaker 6>hadn't practiced that, but we were kind of looking at

0:20:30.786 --> 0:20:34.146
<v Speaker 6>it as points were probably at a premium, So Tamiko

0:20:34.226 --> 0:20:36.586
<v Speaker 6>and Frank talked about it and made a decision to

0:20:36.626 --> 0:20:38.226
<v Speaker 6>go ahead and kick a field goal and then went

0:20:38.306 --> 0:20:40.586
<v Speaker 6>up three. Then they scored and we got the ball

0:20:40.626 --> 0:20:42.746
<v Speaker 6>back and we were able to capitalize there at the end.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's certainly an emotional aspect to the game that's involved,

0:20:47.226 --> 0:20:49.386
<v Speaker 6>but you have to decompress at night and then come

0:20:49.426 --> 0:20:52.066
<v Speaker 6>in this morning. The coaches will go through the film

0:20:52.226 --> 0:20:55.746
<v Speaker 6>and the reality is we're it's Dono Cincinnati. I mean,

0:20:55.746 --> 0:20:58.146
<v Speaker 6>we're getting ready for Cincinnati against good football team next Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. On to Cincinnati, you've heard that one from

0:21:02.186 --> 0:21:05.066
<v Speaker 2>that works. Let's go back to like.

0:21:05.466 --> 0:21:08.866
<v Speaker 1>January, February March, and the Texans are in this really

0:21:08.866 --> 0:21:13.706
<v Speaker 1>interesting time where you've got two picks in the first round,

0:21:13.746 --> 0:21:16.826
<v Speaker 1>you've got a void at quarterback, or at least we

0:21:16.906 --> 0:21:18.466
<v Speaker 1>thought so. I mean, there's a lot of rumors that

0:21:18.506 --> 0:21:20.626
<v Speaker 1>you guys might take a defensive player and no quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and you work out c J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that it's you know, coming into fruition and he's

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<v Speaker 1>having one of the greatest seasons we've ever seen from

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback as a rookie. What was the pre draft

0:21:31.586 --> 0:21:33.546
<v Speaker 1>process with Cj? When did you fall in love with him?

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<v Speaker 1>And when did you know that finally after a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years of not taking a quarterback on the front

0:21:37.426 --> 0:21:39.226
<v Speaker 1>of the draft, this was the year and this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we were positioned fairly well, as you alluded to,

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<v Speaker 6>with two and twelve kind of going into the draft,

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<v Speaker 6>so we knew we were going to have either a

0:21:47.506 --> 0:21:50.706
<v Speaker 6>some flexibility or hopefully we're able to get some good

0:21:50.706 --> 0:21:53.386
<v Speaker 6>players there at the top of the draft, we were

0:21:53.426 --> 0:21:55.586
<v Speaker 6>pretty confident that we were going to pick somewhere in

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<v Speaker 6>the top ten.

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<v Speaker 5>However, when whether we moved back or we moved up,

0:21:59.146 --> 0:21:59.826
<v Speaker 5>and you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Once the season was over, you know, we had done

0:22:03.146 --> 0:22:05.226
<v Speaker 6>quite a bit of work here as a scouting staff.

0:22:05.226 --> 0:22:07.026
<v Speaker 6>It's say lip in the college scout staff do an

0:22:07.066 --> 0:22:10.666
<v Speaker 6>unbelievable job during the fall accumulating information. And once you

0:22:10.786 --> 0:22:14.666
<v Speaker 6>really the line of demarcation is once the juniors underclassmen

0:22:14.706 --> 0:22:16.746
<v Speaker 6>actually declare, then you kind of know the pool of

0:22:16.746 --> 0:22:19.306
<v Speaker 6>players that's going to be available. And those are the

0:22:19.346 --> 0:22:21.466
<v Speaker 6>groups of people and players that you really have to

0:22:21.466 --> 0:22:24.906
<v Speaker 6>spend the most time on or with because sometimes you

0:22:24.946 --> 0:22:28.426
<v Speaker 6>have the least amount of information. But we had gone

0:22:28.426 --> 0:22:32.426
<v Speaker 6>through the quarterback group pretty extensively. You know, I think

0:22:32.466 --> 0:22:34.666
<v Speaker 6>it kind of separated itself there. There was kind of

0:22:34.666 --> 0:22:36.386
<v Speaker 6>a couple of groups of players. There was probably a

0:22:36.386 --> 0:22:39.106
<v Speaker 6>handful in one kind of category. Then there was a

0:22:39.146 --> 0:22:44.186
<v Speaker 6>tier below that we really went through every player, whether

0:22:44.226 --> 0:22:48.386
<v Speaker 6>it was an all star game combine thirty man visits,

0:22:49.146 --> 0:22:51.106
<v Speaker 6>I want to say we had I don't know, however

0:22:51.146 --> 0:22:53.386
<v Speaker 6>many it was a handful of quarterbacks in our building

0:22:53.906 --> 0:22:56.386
<v Speaker 6>is a part of our it's part of our process.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the zoom calls.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're just trying to accumulate as much information as

0:23:00.426 --> 0:23:02.906
<v Speaker 6>possible as many and give them different angles. Maybe you

0:23:02.986 --> 0:23:05.746
<v Speaker 6>feed them some information, see how they absorb it, then

0:23:05.826 --> 0:23:08.586
<v Speaker 6>follow up. Okay, we talked about this a little bit earlier.

0:23:08.786 --> 0:23:11.986
<v Speaker 6>See what their recall was. I think the most important

0:23:11.986 --> 0:23:15.506
<v Speaker 6>thing is with any player is they just have to

0:23:15.506 --> 0:23:18.466
<v Speaker 6>be who they are. So whatever their personality is, you

0:23:18.586 --> 0:23:21.666
<v Speaker 6>just want to see a consistency at every checkpoint from

0:23:21.946 --> 0:23:24.986
<v Speaker 6>whatever interaction you had, whether it's in the school, whether

0:23:25.026 --> 0:23:27.866
<v Speaker 6>it's at the combine, whether it's with one coaches, he

0:23:27.906 --> 0:23:30.146
<v Speaker 6>act the same way with one staff member as he

0:23:30.186 --> 0:23:33.226
<v Speaker 6>does with another staff member, because you would be surprised

0:23:33.546 --> 0:23:35.906
<v Speaker 6>at times you find some gaps or they say one

0:23:35.906 --> 0:23:38.626
<v Speaker 6>thing to one person and then they say another thing

0:23:38.706 --> 0:23:39.746
<v Speaker 6>and you're like, wait a minute.

0:23:40.066 --> 0:23:42.706
<v Speaker 1>Let's like in the movies where it's like that he

0:23:42.786 --> 0:23:45.746
<v Speaker 1>treated the cafeteria people poorly, like that kind of stuff.

0:23:46.186 --> 0:23:47.026
<v Speaker 5>In some respects.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but even you know, whether they make a commentary

0:23:49.986 --> 0:23:52.986
<v Speaker 6>about something or their persona or their attitude, or how

0:23:52.986 --> 0:23:56.186
<v Speaker 6>they interact with other players that are in the building.

0:23:56.266 --> 0:23:58.186
<v Speaker 6>On the day, we usually bring in I don't know,

0:23:58.226 --> 0:24:00.466
<v Speaker 6>four or five players or groups of players in on

0:24:00.506 --> 0:24:03.946
<v Speaker 6>one particular day. We have a pretty extensive process from

0:24:03.986 --> 0:24:05.866
<v Speaker 6>the time that they walk in the building to they

0:24:05.946 --> 0:24:08.826
<v Speaker 6>meet with the entire group, and then we reconvene at

0:24:08.866 --> 0:24:11.146
<v Speaker 6>the end of the day and kind of recalibrate what

0:24:11.186 --> 0:24:14.186
<v Speaker 6>are our collective observations. You really get input whether it's

0:24:14.186 --> 0:24:20.746
<v Speaker 6>a strength and conditioning coach, position coach, offensive coordinator, player development, scouting,

0:24:21.146 --> 0:24:27.146
<v Speaker 6>training staff, medical, You're looking for consistency and behavior across

0:24:27.186 --> 0:24:28.626
<v Speaker 6>I would say the different areas.

0:24:28.866 --> 0:24:31.066
<v Speaker 5>So it's a pretty rigorous day.

0:24:31.506 --> 0:24:33.586
<v Speaker 6>We're not on the you know, let's bring them in

0:24:33.626 --> 0:24:36.706
<v Speaker 6>and bring him to a steakhouse like Yeah. In the end,

0:24:37.586 --> 0:24:40.266
<v Speaker 6>you're trying to simulate as much as possible. What is

0:24:40.306 --> 0:24:42.106
<v Speaker 6>it going to be like in the building on a

0:24:42.146 --> 0:24:44.186
<v Speaker 6>day to day basis when you're around these people when

0:24:44.346 --> 0:24:46.266
<v Speaker 6>in the end it's about football. There's nothing else they

0:24:46.306 --> 0:24:49.546
<v Speaker 6>have to worry about. This is their primary focus, and

0:24:49.666 --> 0:24:51.946
<v Speaker 6>some can handle that better than others. So I would

0:24:51.946 --> 0:24:54.746
<v Speaker 6>say as we work through that process, things start to

0:24:54.786 --> 0:24:58.146
<v Speaker 6>declare themselves there a little bit, you know, specific to CJ.

0:24:58.386 --> 0:25:00.826
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think his personality. You feel it, you

0:25:00.866 --> 0:25:02.786
<v Speaker 6>feel his presence when you're in the room with them.

0:25:03.226 --> 0:25:06.346
<v Speaker 6>There's a confidence, there's a competitiveness, there's an edge and

0:25:06.506 --> 0:25:09.426
<v Speaker 6>a good way of what you want and he has

0:25:09.466 --> 0:25:12.746
<v Speaker 6>I would say, he's It's that balance of confidence in humility,

0:25:12.866 --> 0:25:15.346
<v Speaker 6>like you believe in yourself, but you also have to

0:25:15.346 --> 0:25:17.306
<v Speaker 6>make sure that there are times when you take a

0:25:17.306 --> 0:25:19.906
<v Speaker 6>step back and you know, you put your ego aside.

0:25:20.026 --> 0:25:23.666
<v Speaker 6>So I'd say by the time we got to April,

0:25:23.906 --> 0:25:25.866
<v Speaker 6>we kind of had an idea and then really the.

0:25:25.906 --> 0:25:27.106
<v Speaker 5>Draft is about positioning.

0:25:27.346 --> 0:25:30.506
<v Speaker 6>So really those last couple of weeks in April, you're

0:25:30.546 --> 0:25:33.386
<v Speaker 6>having dialogue, you're looking at your options, you're getting more information.

0:25:33.706 --> 0:25:37.066
<v Speaker 6>Let's say, you know, we did pretty extensive work and

0:25:37.226 --> 0:25:39.586
<v Speaker 6>just kind of go back and just check and double check.

0:25:39.666 --> 0:25:40.706
<v Speaker 5>And part of the.

0:25:42.146 --> 0:25:44.626
<v Speaker 6>You know, part of this process is finding the right

0:25:44.666 --> 0:25:47.346
<v Speaker 6>people to talk to that give you the true representation

0:25:47.506 --> 0:25:49.266
<v Speaker 6>of really what you're going to get, you know, because

0:25:49.266 --> 0:25:51.506
<v Speaker 6>then they can bottom line it for you and say, look,

0:25:51.506 --> 0:25:53.026
<v Speaker 6>in the end, here are the things that are important,

0:25:53.026 --> 0:25:54.506
<v Speaker 6>and each player is going to be a little bit different.

0:25:54.586 --> 0:25:55.866
<v Speaker 5>So a lot of.

0:25:55.826 --> 0:25:59.426
<v Speaker 6>Discussions, a lot of dialogue, and we felt confident by

0:25:59.426 --> 0:26:02.306
<v Speaker 6>the end, and you know, we really didn't know where

0:26:02.706 --> 0:26:05.546
<v Speaker 6>or how things were gonna unfold on draft day.

0:26:06.666 --> 0:26:09.546
<v Speaker 5>You know, I know Demiko and I you know, we've talked.

0:26:09.666 --> 0:26:10.506
<v Speaker 5>We talk every day.

0:26:10.706 --> 0:26:13.746
<v Speaker 6>I'd say during that time, I mean we talked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

0:26:13.746 --> 0:26:16.466
<v Speaker 6>went through scenarios, Hey, what are some different options, and

0:26:16.546 --> 0:26:18.146
<v Speaker 6>he was great. And then I'd say by the end,

0:26:18.146 --> 0:26:20.746
<v Speaker 6>we certainly had conviction. And then you know, when it

0:26:20.786 --> 0:26:22.626
<v Speaker 6>came time to make the selection, then we you know,

0:26:22.626 --> 0:26:24.586
<v Speaker 6>went ahead and did what we felt made the most

0:26:24.586 --> 0:26:27.586
<v Speaker 6>sense for our organization. So it was pick and then

0:26:27.706 --> 0:26:30.506
<v Speaker 6>you know, we were able to consummate the trade there

0:26:30.586 --> 0:26:33.186
<v Speaker 6>with Mani and move up to three and then pick

0:26:33.226 --> 0:26:33.906
<v Speaker 6>both players.

0:26:33.906 --> 0:26:35.386
<v Speaker 5>And you know, here we are.

0:26:35.586 --> 0:26:38.146
<v Speaker 1>Go back into your shoes because in the media, in

0:26:38.186 --> 0:26:41.346
<v Speaker 1>my world, it was understood that Bryce Young was probably

0:26:41.386 --> 0:26:43.386
<v Speaker 1>going one, and then there were stories that you guys

0:26:43.386 --> 0:26:45.586
<v Speaker 1>were going to take Tyree Wilson out of Texas Tech.

0:26:45.666 --> 0:26:49.226
<v Speaker 1>Then there was stories that you're gonna take Will Anderson second. Overall,

0:26:49.586 --> 0:26:51.906
<v Speaker 1>then there was the S two cognition test stuff that

0:26:51.946 --> 0:26:53.346
<v Speaker 1>can and all this stuff is going on, and it

0:26:53.346 --> 0:26:56.466
<v Speaker 1>makes for great TV and good morning football when you're in.

0:26:56.426 --> 0:26:58.826
<v Speaker 2>That building and I'll give you a great show. Thank you,

0:26:58.986 --> 0:27:02.266
<v Speaker 2>great show, great show. We love that stuff.

0:27:03.506 --> 0:27:05.386
<v Speaker 1>But when you're in that building and there's all this

0:27:05.466 --> 0:27:08.226
<v Speaker 1>other stuff swarming, is it like we don't even pay

0:27:08.266 --> 0:27:11.706
<v Speaker 1>attention to that stuff, all those rumors, or because I'll

0:27:11.746 --> 0:27:14.226
<v Speaker 1>say it like it is, Nick, no one knew what

0:27:14.266 --> 0:27:16.866
<v Speaker 1>Houston was doing two overall until that pick was in,

0:27:17.066 --> 0:27:19.266
<v Speaker 1>and no one knew what was happening at three overall

0:27:19.346 --> 0:27:21.826
<v Speaker 1>until that pick was in. So is that a source

0:27:21.866 --> 0:27:24.626
<v Speaker 1>of pride that no one was on your tail? There

0:27:24.666 --> 0:27:26.506
<v Speaker 1>is no leaks in this building and there's no one

0:27:26.906 --> 0:27:28.706
<v Speaker 1>giving it away. Or is it one of those where

0:27:28.706 --> 0:27:31.106
<v Speaker 1>it's like, this is what we were going to do,

0:27:31.186 --> 0:27:32.386
<v Speaker 1>what we weren't going to do, We don't care what

0:27:32.466 --> 0:27:33.106
<v Speaker 1>the media says.

0:27:33.586 --> 0:27:34.706
<v Speaker 5>No, it's a great question.

0:27:34.946 --> 0:27:36.826
<v Speaker 6>I think it's really a credit to a lot of

0:27:36.826 --> 0:27:39.386
<v Speaker 6>the people that are in the building. And I mean

0:27:39.386 --> 0:27:43.066
<v Speaker 6>Dimiko's really main message to the team, and the number

0:27:43.066 --> 0:27:46.066
<v Speaker 6>one rule is protect the team. So we all have

0:27:46.106 --> 0:27:49.506
<v Speaker 6>a responsibility to protect the team and do what is

0:27:49.586 --> 0:27:53.226
<v Speaker 6>right by the team, not by one individual or not

0:27:53.386 --> 0:27:57.386
<v Speaker 6>subject to i would say public perception or external factors.

0:27:57.426 --> 0:27:59.986
<v Speaker 5>So part of your job, I mean, that's what you

0:28:00.026 --> 0:28:00.426
<v Speaker 5>all do.

0:28:00.506 --> 0:28:02.866
<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's a lot that you want to talk about,

0:28:02.986 --> 0:28:05.026
<v Speaker 6>need to talk about because there's a gap. There's no

0:28:05.066 --> 0:28:09.026
<v Speaker 6>football being played, so you have essentially when free agency

0:28:09.066 --> 0:28:11.066
<v Speaker 6>is over, as you know, middle of March. Free agency

0:28:11.146 --> 0:28:12.746
<v Speaker 6>is done the first or second week in March. You

0:28:12.786 --> 0:28:15.266
<v Speaker 6>have four to five weeks or what else is there

0:28:15.306 --> 0:28:17.386
<v Speaker 6>to talk about. There's no offseason program in no football,

0:28:17.386 --> 0:28:18.946
<v Speaker 6>so you're going to talk about the draft every day.

0:28:18.986 --> 0:28:21.026
<v Speaker 5>So I think the thing that you have to.

0:28:20.986 --> 0:28:25.346
<v Speaker 6>Guard against more than anything is misinformation during the spring.

0:28:25.626 --> 0:28:29.666
<v Speaker 6>And it goes back to trusting your work, trusting the

0:28:29.706 --> 0:28:31.786
<v Speaker 6>time that you've put in, trust the people in the

0:28:31.826 --> 0:28:35.746
<v Speaker 6>building that who have I would say invested a significant

0:28:35.746 --> 0:28:39.866
<v Speaker 6>amount of time and effort, and just have constant dialogue

0:28:39.906 --> 0:28:43.826
<v Speaker 6>and communication and quite frankly, you have to ignore the

0:28:43.866 --> 0:28:47.266
<v Speaker 6>external factors. We're cognizant that it's there, that's out there.

0:28:47.266 --> 0:28:49.346
<v Speaker 6>There's going to be a lot of discussion, what are

0:28:49.386 --> 0:28:50.466
<v Speaker 6>the motives behind that?

0:28:50.706 --> 0:28:51.506
<v Speaker 5>I mean, as you.

0:28:51.586 --> 0:28:55.306
<v Speaker 6>Know, sometimes things get a little bit jaded or shifted

0:28:55.346 --> 0:28:57.706
<v Speaker 6>a certain way and you try to pain or create

0:28:57.746 --> 0:29:00.106
<v Speaker 6>a narrative. So we just have to make sure that

0:29:00.146 --> 0:29:03.226
<v Speaker 6>we maintain our discipline and just do what we think

0:29:03.306 --> 0:29:06.386
<v Speaker 6>is in the best interests of the organization. And frankly,

0:29:06.546 --> 0:29:09.226
<v Speaker 6>and I've said this publicly multiple times, I mean, the

0:29:09.306 --> 0:29:10.866
<v Speaker 6>draft's a fifty to fifty proposition.

0:29:11.026 --> 0:29:11.866
<v Speaker 5>So there's going to.

0:29:11.826 --> 0:29:14.066
<v Speaker 6>Be players that you think it's going to go one

0:29:14.106 --> 0:29:16.066
<v Speaker 6>way and it works out the way you hope. There's

0:29:16.106 --> 0:29:17.946
<v Speaker 6>going to be other players for whatever the reason that

0:29:18.026 --> 0:29:20.306
<v Speaker 6>doesn't go the way that you would have hoped it would.

0:29:20.746 --> 0:29:22.946
<v Speaker 6>So there's no experts in what we do. There's no

0:29:23.026 --> 0:29:25.266
<v Speaker 6>experts in our field. There's no experts in our building.

0:29:25.626 --> 0:29:27.026
<v Speaker 6>I think we have a lot of people with a

0:29:27.066 --> 0:29:30.466
<v Speaker 6>lot of pride that care about their work and are

0:29:30.466 --> 0:29:33.786
<v Speaker 6>invested fully in the process. And we have to trust

0:29:33.786 --> 0:29:35.786
<v Speaker 6>each other, and we have to trust ourselves, and we

0:29:35.826 --> 0:29:37.666
<v Speaker 6>have to trust the work that we put into it.

0:29:38.306 --> 0:29:41.586
<v Speaker 6>So I'd say, really the draft is a culmination of

0:29:41.626 --> 0:29:45.186
<v Speaker 6>the effort of so many people. And then really the draft,

0:29:45.266 --> 0:29:47.666
<v Speaker 6>to a certain extent, you're prepared, but you have to

0:29:47.666 --> 0:29:49.826
<v Speaker 6>be able to adjust and adapt and kind of bob

0:29:49.866 --> 0:29:51.386
<v Speaker 6>and weave as you go because you have to be

0:29:51.426 --> 0:29:55.026
<v Speaker 6>prepared for a marriag to different scenarios. So I think,

0:29:55.066 --> 0:29:56.786
<v Speaker 6>more than anything, it's just a credit to the people

0:29:56.826 --> 0:30:00.186
<v Speaker 6>in the building. And the reality is at some point

0:30:00.186 --> 0:30:02.466
<v Speaker 6>the information is going to get caught off and there's

0:30:02.466 --> 0:30:04.506
<v Speaker 6>going to be certain people that have access to the information.

0:30:04.906 --> 0:30:06.946
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's just part of running just a company

0:30:07.026 --> 0:30:07.706
<v Speaker 6>or a good business.

0:30:07.786 --> 0:30:09.826
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everyone needs to know all the details.

0:30:09.866 --> 0:30:12.186
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And going going back to what Demko says, I

0:30:12.186 --> 0:30:15.706
<v Speaker 6>would say consistently is protect the team. So in the end,

0:30:15.866 --> 0:30:18.226
<v Speaker 6>we're about protecting the team and doing what's right for

0:30:18.266 --> 0:30:18.986
<v Speaker 6>the organization.

0:30:19.506 --> 0:30:22.186
<v Speaker 1>You take CJ Stroud at too, and there's a couple

0:30:22.146 --> 0:30:26.146
<v Speaker 1>of oohs and odds, and then didn'ting the Texans are

0:30:26.186 --> 0:30:27.746
<v Speaker 1>back on the clock? Could you take us through those

0:30:27.786 --> 0:30:29.986
<v Speaker 1>six minutes of you negotiating with money asen for it

0:30:30.066 --> 0:30:32.506
<v Speaker 1>the first year GM, who is a former colleague of yours.

0:30:33.386 --> 0:30:35.466
<v Speaker 1>Who is the Arizona Cardinals GM, and how you guys

0:30:35.506 --> 0:30:37.346
<v Speaker 1>decided to make them move up to number three.

0:30:37.826 --> 0:30:40.146
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I'd say relationships are a huge part

0:30:40.186 --> 0:30:44.066
<v Speaker 6>of this business. Have a tremendous respect and admiration for Moni,

0:30:44.266 --> 0:30:47.746
<v Speaker 6>both personally and professionally. And we had added some constructive

0:30:47.786 --> 0:30:51.386
<v Speaker 6>dialogues probably a week or two about probably about a

0:30:51.386 --> 0:30:51.946
<v Speaker 6>week out.

0:30:51.826 --> 0:30:54.306
<v Speaker 5>From the draft just going back and forth.

0:30:55.146 --> 0:30:57.386
<v Speaker 6>You know, he was certainly weighing some things on his end,

0:30:58.586 --> 0:31:00.026
<v Speaker 6>and then we're able to kind of get some i

0:31:00.066 --> 0:31:03.986
<v Speaker 6>would say general parameters sort of in place if if

0:31:04.026 --> 0:31:08.746
<v Speaker 6>this happened, here's what potential it would entail. Not knowing

0:31:08.906 --> 0:31:11.266
<v Speaker 6>that whether or not it would come to fruition or not,

0:31:11.466 --> 0:31:14.466
<v Speaker 6>so we didn't know. We went back and forth, so

0:31:14.626 --> 0:31:16.666
<v Speaker 6>there was a gap there where quite frankly, you know,

0:31:16.706 --> 0:31:19.226
<v Speaker 6>we didn't really know what was going to happen. And

0:31:19.866 --> 0:31:22.586
<v Speaker 6>it happened quickly because there's what is it, ten minutes

0:31:22.986 --> 0:31:25.546
<v Speaker 6>in the first round, So we make the pick and

0:31:25.586 --> 0:31:28.186
<v Speaker 6>then okay, Arizona's on the clock, all right, so a

0:31:28.186 --> 0:31:29.906
<v Speaker 6>minute or two go off, So then you're at five

0:31:29.946 --> 0:31:31.426
<v Speaker 6>to six minutes and you don't have a trade. And

0:31:31.466 --> 0:31:33.666
<v Speaker 6>then there's a lot of logistics that are involved, from

0:31:34.106 --> 0:31:36.866
<v Speaker 6>agreeing to the compensation, agreeing to the trade, getting that

0:31:36.946 --> 0:31:42.026
<v Speaker 6>information to the league, make sure the league confirms that

0:31:42.066 --> 0:31:44.946
<v Speaker 6>you actually have the trade, and then you're on the clock,

0:31:45.226 --> 0:31:46.826
<v Speaker 6>and then have to get a hold of the player

0:31:46.986 --> 0:31:50.106
<v Speaker 6>and make sure the pick gets turned in via Microsoft

0:31:50.146 --> 0:31:54.626
<v Speaker 6>teams or whatever technology is available. So there's a lot

0:31:54.626 --> 0:31:56.746
<v Speaker 6>of that can happen so I think you just kind

0:31:56.746 --> 0:31:58.546
<v Speaker 6>of have to maintain, you know, you have to take

0:31:58.586 --> 0:32:01.826
<v Speaker 6>the emotion out of it. But when the trade was

0:32:01.826 --> 0:32:04.826
<v Speaker 6>actually consummated, maybe the pick, you know, we were all

0:32:04.866 --> 0:32:08.866
<v Speaker 6>excited an emotion because we felt I would say convicted.

0:32:09.586 --> 0:32:13.586
<v Speaker 6>You're really about both players. So yeah, so it was exciting.

0:32:13.626 --> 0:32:15.626
<v Speaker 6>It was an exciting time for the people that are involved.

0:32:15.626 --> 0:32:18.226
<v Speaker 6>It's an exciting time for the organization, for ownership, and

0:32:18.266 --> 0:32:22.306
<v Speaker 6>they're certainly supportive of what we're trying to do. So yeah,

0:32:22.346 --> 0:32:24.386
<v Speaker 6>so you know, it was a cool moment just for

0:32:24.426 --> 0:32:26.746
<v Speaker 6>everybody involved. And then you kind of take a deep

0:32:26.786 --> 0:32:29.626
<v Speaker 6>breath and realize, all right, you're not picking until round

0:32:29.626 --> 0:32:31.226
<v Speaker 6>because you don't have a second round pick.

0:32:31.266 --> 0:32:32.306
<v Speaker 5>But I mean that's the way it goes.

0:32:32.706 --> 0:32:35.226
<v Speaker 2>Stroud gets there Anderson gets there. It's a pretty cool deal.

0:32:35.266 --> 0:32:38.386
<v Speaker 1>You've got now your cornerstone at quarterback, your defensive end

0:32:38.746 --> 0:32:40.906
<v Speaker 1>for the future. Now, was there a moment this summer

0:32:40.946 --> 0:32:44.586
<v Speaker 1>where you saw CJ. Stroud do something and say, oh boy, okay,

0:32:45.106 --> 0:32:46.146
<v Speaker 1>we got something here.

0:32:47.386 --> 0:32:49.666
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think you're just looking from the time they

0:32:49.706 --> 0:32:53.026
<v Speaker 6>walk in the building for improvement, because the reality is

0:32:53.306 --> 0:32:55.906
<v Speaker 6>whoever you pick, whenever you pick them regardless of how

0:32:55.946 --> 0:32:58.426
<v Speaker 6>talented or how productive they've been, they're really they're starting

0:32:58.426 --> 0:33:01.506
<v Speaker 6>from scratch. So they're just kind of putting the foundation

0:33:01.626 --> 0:33:04.986
<v Speaker 6>in place, learning the building, learning the people, learning, learning

0:33:05.026 --> 0:33:09.146
<v Speaker 6>the terminology, learning how to prectice, going out there making mistakes,

0:33:09.186 --> 0:33:11.346
<v Speaker 6>and then going back correcting do you not make the

0:33:11.386 --> 0:33:15.146
<v Speaker 6>same mistakes a second time? So the bottom line is

0:33:15.186 --> 0:33:17.506
<v Speaker 6>you're just looking for improvement from the time you start

0:33:17.586 --> 0:33:20.386
<v Speaker 6>until an endpoint. So you really have called six weeks

0:33:20.426 --> 0:33:23.066
<v Speaker 6>where you can evaluate. So you get into OTAs and

0:33:23.066 --> 0:33:25.226
<v Speaker 6>then you get into mini camps. After four or five weeks,

0:33:25.306 --> 0:33:27.426
<v Speaker 6>you say, all right, take inventory of where we are.

0:33:27.506 --> 0:33:29.506
<v Speaker 6>All right, there's some things out have gone well, here's

0:33:29.506 --> 0:33:32.466
<v Speaker 6>some things that we could certainly fix or improve. And

0:33:32.546 --> 0:33:36.826
<v Speaker 6>I think CJ earned the job and earned the opportunity

0:33:36.986 --> 0:33:40.786
<v Speaker 6>with his performance. And I think that started from the beginning.

0:33:40.826 --> 0:33:43.186
<v Speaker 6>What the expectation was, like, nobody's going to be handing

0:33:43.186 --> 0:33:45.466
<v Speaker 6>anything when they walk in our building. You have to

0:33:45.466 --> 0:33:47.666
<v Speaker 6>earn it on a day to day basis with your attitude,

0:33:47.706 --> 0:33:50.786
<v Speaker 6>with your behavior, and your performance. And the players that

0:33:50.986 --> 0:33:52.946
<v Speaker 6>do those things, those are the players that we're gonna

0:33:52.946 --> 0:33:54.346
<v Speaker 6>be able to rely on. That we're gonna be able

0:33:54.346 --> 0:33:56.306
<v Speaker 6>to trust and then we're gonna we're gonna want to

0:33:56.306 --> 0:33:59.146
<v Speaker 6>put on the field. So we came back from from

0:33:59.186 --> 0:34:00.386
<v Speaker 6>the summer, I had a little bit of break there,

0:34:00.426 --> 0:34:02.586
<v Speaker 6>came back in training camp. I would say, there was

0:34:02.626 --> 0:34:05.426
<v Speaker 6>some good plays and kind of incrementally it got better,

0:34:05.466 --> 0:34:07.146
<v Speaker 6>and I'd say after a week or two, you start

0:34:07.186 --> 0:34:09.946
<v Speaker 6>to see some things and then try to give him

0:34:09.946 --> 0:34:11.706
<v Speaker 6>a little bit more, see what he can absorb, see

0:34:11.746 --> 0:34:14.226
<v Speaker 6>what we can handle. And then by the time when

0:34:14.266 --> 0:34:15.826
<v Speaker 6>you know, I think we you know, got there to

0:34:15.826 --> 0:34:17.386
<v Speaker 6>the end. I think we kind of knew the direction

0:34:17.466 --> 0:34:19.786
<v Speaker 6>that we were going to go. And then you kind

0:34:19.786 --> 0:34:22.866
<v Speaker 6>of hit the reset button once a training camp is over,

0:34:22.906 --> 0:34:25.666
<v Speaker 6>and once the preseason is over, hit the reset button

0:34:25.786 --> 0:34:28.666
<v Speaker 6>and you're really kind of going back to square one's

0:34:28.706 --> 0:34:32.866
<v Speaker 6>Week one in Baltimore, which I would say not surprisingly.

0:34:32.906 --> 0:34:34.466
<v Speaker 6>I mean, they're one of the best teams in the league.

0:34:34.506 --> 0:34:35.506
<v Speaker 6>I think we knew it was going to be a

0:34:35.546 --> 0:34:38.066
<v Speaker 6>pretty significant challenge going into Baltimore, playing on a road,

0:34:38.066 --> 0:34:40.666
<v Speaker 6>playing against a really good team, and there were some

0:34:40.706 --> 0:34:42.866
<v Speaker 6>things that I think we learned about our team, and

0:34:42.906 --> 0:34:44.826
<v Speaker 6>not only CJ, but we've learned about our team. I

0:34:44.826 --> 0:34:46.586
<v Speaker 6>mean you know, it was a one score game, seven

0:34:46.586 --> 0:34:48.106
<v Speaker 6>to six at half time. The second half kind of

0:34:48.106 --> 0:34:50.306
<v Speaker 6>got away from us, but you know, there were some

0:34:50.346 --> 0:34:52.706
<v Speaker 6>things that we had to get corrected, corrected and fixed.

0:34:52.786 --> 0:34:54.586
<v Speaker 6>And you know then we turn around the next week

0:34:54.626 --> 0:34:56.066
<v Speaker 6>and we lose at home in the row and two.

0:34:56.986 --> 0:35:00.106
<v Speaker 6>But I think the team stayed invested. The attitude was great,

0:35:00.106 --> 0:35:01.866
<v Speaker 6>that morale was great, and it really it starts with

0:35:01.946 --> 0:35:03.986
<v Speaker 6>Demko and his leadership at the top.

0:35:04.746 --> 0:35:07.066
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to that higher because you guys had been

0:35:07.106 --> 0:35:09.266
<v Speaker 1>through two different coaches who lasted one year, and it's

0:35:09.306 --> 0:35:10.546
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, we got to get this one right.

0:35:11.146 --> 0:35:14.306
<v Speaker 1>You guys brought in other people and you hired Demiko,

0:35:14.426 --> 0:35:17.186
<v Speaker 1>Ryan's former player, who was a very well respected defensive

0:35:17.786 --> 0:35:20.146
<v Speaker 1>coach and then coordinator for the Sanftisco forty nine ers.

0:35:20.186 --> 0:35:21.586
<v Speaker 1>Did you have the history of Demiko at all? I

0:35:21.586 --> 0:35:23.866
<v Speaker 1>know he was with the Texans and the Eagles for

0:35:23.906 --> 0:35:25.306
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Did you ever were you ever in

0:35:25.386 --> 0:35:26.746
<v Speaker 1>front office where he was one of the players.

0:35:26.986 --> 0:35:28.506
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, we never overlapped.

0:35:28.746 --> 0:35:31.746
<v Speaker 6>We played against the Texans multiple times when I was

0:35:31.746 --> 0:35:33.586
<v Speaker 6>in New England, but when Demiko was a player here

0:35:33.586 --> 0:35:36.306
<v Speaker 6>as as a matter of fact, we played against Philadelphia

0:35:36.826 --> 0:35:38.346
<v Speaker 6>when he played for I want to think he was

0:35:38.346 --> 0:35:40.746
<v Speaker 6>playing for Chip. Yeah, we played them during the regular

0:35:40.746 --> 0:35:43.146
<v Speaker 6>season there at one point. But as far as that,

0:35:43.346 --> 0:35:45.226
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we didn't have any of it. Say, we

0:35:45.306 --> 0:35:46.306
<v Speaker 6>knew of each other.

0:35:46.306 --> 0:35:48.746
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but there wasn't some long relationship with twenty years.

0:35:48.786 --> 0:35:50.666
<v Speaker 6>No, No, we didn't know each other. I'd say on

0:35:50.946 --> 0:35:53.026
<v Speaker 6>a personal level. It was just more of kind of

0:35:53.026 --> 0:35:57.306
<v Speaker 6>from afar and you respect. You know what a coach

0:35:57.426 --> 0:36:00.666
<v Speaker 6>does when you watch their team play. You know, we

0:36:00.706 --> 0:36:03.986
<v Speaker 6>played against San Francisco in twenty he was it twenty

0:36:04.026 --> 0:36:07.386
<v Speaker 6>one when we played against them in my first year here,

0:36:07.626 --> 0:36:10.786
<v Speaker 6>went out there and played against them. So then you

0:36:10.826 --> 0:36:14.026
<v Speaker 6>just start to accumulate information. You know, we made the change.

0:36:14.626 --> 0:36:16.466
<v Speaker 6>You know, we put a lot of say, thought and

0:36:16.506 --> 0:36:18.306
<v Speaker 6>effort into it, and you know there are a number

0:36:18.306 --> 0:36:21.346
<v Speaker 6>of people that are involved in that process, and you

0:36:21.386 --> 0:36:23.026
<v Speaker 6>know we went through that process.

0:36:22.626 --> 0:36:24.706
<v Speaker 5>And you know there was he was.

0:36:24.906 --> 0:36:26.946
<v Speaker 6>He stood out amongst the would say a pretty good

0:36:26.946 --> 0:36:28.986
<v Speaker 6>group of candidates for a myriad of reasons. I think

0:36:28.986 --> 0:36:30.546
<v Speaker 6>the big thing and that there's a lot of people

0:36:30.546 --> 0:36:32.586
<v Speaker 6>in this building that were around him as a player.

0:36:33.546 --> 0:36:37.466
<v Speaker 6>I would say, who he is is you know, he's.

0:36:36.786 --> 0:36:37.666
<v Speaker 5>True to who he is.

0:36:38.146 --> 0:36:40.826
<v Speaker 6>He has a great mindset, he has a great personality.

0:36:40.826 --> 0:36:44.026
<v Speaker 6>He's genuine, he's very competitive, he cares about people.

0:36:44.666 --> 0:36:47.026
<v Speaker 5>He's good at his job. He was a good player.

0:36:47.386 --> 0:36:50.026
<v Speaker 6>He's invested in the city of Houston, and he had

0:36:50.066 --> 0:36:52.906
<v Speaker 6>success and he was a part of winning programs. I

0:36:52.946 --> 0:36:54.906
<v Speaker 6>mean what John and Kyle have done out there in

0:36:54.946 --> 0:36:57.346
<v Speaker 6>San Francisco. I mean, there's not too many programs that

0:36:57.386 --> 0:36:59.466
<v Speaker 6>have had his much success. So you know, when to

0:36:59.546 --> 0:37:03.066
<v Speaker 6>put all those factors together, you know, we made a

0:37:03.106 --> 0:37:05.906
<v Speaker 6>decision that we did. There's a lot of excitement, and

0:37:06.026 --> 0:37:10.986
<v Speaker 6>you know he deserves, you know, every amount. He deserves

0:37:10.986 --> 0:37:14.346
<v Speaker 6>as much credit is anybody because he's put his imprint

0:37:14.386 --> 0:37:17.786
<v Speaker 6>on this team with his message and his just consistency

0:37:17.866 --> 0:37:20.146
<v Speaker 6>day to day, and the players respond. They want to

0:37:20.186 --> 0:37:22.346
<v Speaker 6>play for him, they want to be here. He holds

0:37:22.386 --> 0:37:24.586
<v Speaker 6>him to a high standard, he holds him accountable. He

0:37:24.706 --> 0:37:28.746
<v Speaker 6>cares a lot about them, regardless win or lose. It's

0:37:28.866 --> 0:37:31.746
<v Speaker 6>the standard of performance has been established, the mindset has

0:37:31.786 --> 0:37:34.226
<v Speaker 6>been established. We know we're not going to win every game,

0:37:34.266 --> 0:37:36.106
<v Speaker 6>but are we doing the things on a week to week,

0:37:36.186 --> 0:37:38.306
<v Speaker 6>day to day basis that put ourselves into position and

0:37:38.346 --> 0:37:38.666
<v Speaker 6>if we.

0:37:38.626 --> 0:37:41.066
<v Speaker 5>Don't, then here's the reason why. Here's the things that

0:37:41.106 --> 0:37:41.946
<v Speaker 5>we need to get fixed.

0:37:42.746 --> 0:37:46.106
<v Speaker 6>So, I mean, I can't say enough great things about

0:37:46.146 --> 0:37:48.066
<v Speaker 6>who he is not as a coach, but as a

0:37:48.146 --> 0:37:51.146
<v Speaker 6>human being as a person, and those things certainly matter

0:37:51.426 --> 0:37:53.346
<v Speaker 6>when you're running a football team, when you're around each

0:37:53.346 --> 0:37:55.986
<v Speaker 6>other essentially on a day to day basis for multiple

0:37:55.986 --> 0:37:56.706
<v Speaker 6>months out of the year.

0:37:57.146 --> 0:37:59.706
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then he brings in Bobby Slowick as the

0:37:59.706 --> 0:38:02.626
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, and you think about that forty nine ers tree.

0:38:03.066 --> 0:38:04.466
<v Speaker 2>You know, we've already seen.

0:38:04.386 --> 0:38:06.186
<v Speaker 1>Kyle have all the success here, but like now you've

0:38:06.226 --> 0:38:09.906
<v Speaker 1>got Mike Lafleur has already been elsewhere as in OC twice.

0:38:10.026 --> 0:38:12.706
<v Speaker 2>You've got Mike McDaniel now flourishing. And then here's this

0:38:12.866 --> 0:38:13.746
<v Speaker 2>Bobby slow who.

0:38:13.626 --> 0:38:16.266
<v Speaker 1>I got to be honest, I wasn't aware of what

0:38:16.266 --> 0:38:18.946
<v Speaker 1>his offense would look like because he never was necessarily

0:38:18.946 --> 0:38:20.866
<v Speaker 1>calling the plays in San Francisco. And then now he

0:38:20.906 --> 0:38:23.226
<v Speaker 1>comes in. You've got to be overjoyed with the connection

0:38:23.266 --> 0:38:24.946
<v Speaker 1>he's had with Stroud and these young receivers.

0:38:25.626 --> 0:38:28.306
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I think there's a propensity

0:38:28.346 --> 0:38:31.306
<v Speaker 6>to kind of attach trees and well, this is going

0:38:31.386 --> 0:38:33.426
<v Speaker 6>to happen. And I think the reality is when you're

0:38:33.466 --> 0:38:35.746
<v Speaker 6>running a program, when you're starting a program, when you're

0:38:35.746 --> 0:38:38.186
<v Speaker 6>bringing somebody in, you sort of have to make it

0:38:38.266 --> 0:38:38.626
<v Speaker 6>your own.

0:38:38.866 --> 0:38:41.346
<v Speaker 5>So I think all of us have a foundation.

0:38:41.626 --> 0:38:43.906
<v Speaker 6>I'd say that we were raised on or who we

0:38:44.026 --> 0:38:48.666
<v Speaker 6>worked under, or who we learned under philosophies how that

0:38:48.786 --> 0:38:51.226
<v Speaker 6>was built. But the reality is when you go into

0:38:51.266 --> 0:38:53.666
<v Speaker 6>a building and start a program and bring people in,

0:38:54.346 --> 0:38:56.626
<v Speaker 6>is you're trying to put your own spin on whatever

0:38:56.666 --> 0:38:59.106
<v Speaker 6>that is. And it's usually a function of the players

0:38:59.106 --> 0:39:01.226
<v Speaker 6>that you have in the building and the things that

0:39:01.266 --> 0:39:04.226
<v Speaker 6>they do well. So your ability to adjust to adapt.

0:39:04.706 --> 0:39:07.906
<v Speaker 6>You have a core foundation the principles that are important,

0:39:08.306 --> 0:39:10.346
<v Speaker 6>but the reality is you're probably going to have to

0:39:10.346 --> 0:39:12.346
<v Speaker 6>bob and weave a little bit and you know, make

0:39:12.386 --> 0:39:14.306
<v Speaker 6>some adjustments as you go as reading something you know,

0:39:14.306 --> 0:39:16.866
<v Speaker 6>in fact, we're playing you know, Cincinnati this week with

0:39:16.986 --> 0:39:19.666
<v Speaker 6>Zach and Zach has made a comment how sometimes how

0:39:19.706 --> 0:39:21.546
<v Speaker 6>the offense starts at the beginning of the year looks

0:39:21.546 --> 0:39:24.386
<v Speaker 6>a lot different when you get midway, and really that's

0:39:24.386 --> 0:39:26.666
<v Speaker 6>sort of emblematic of what this league is about. You

0:39:26.786 --> 0:39:29.306
<v Speaker 6>really have to be able to adjust and make some modifications.

0:39:29.306 --> 0:39:30.906
<v Speaker 5>And adjustments to your personnel, or.

0:39:30.906 --> 0:39:34.106
<v Speaker 6>If something's not going well all right, maybe figure out

0:39:34.146 --> 0:39:35.826
<v Speaker 6>a different way to do it or come up with

0:39:35.866 --> 0:39:40.146
<v Speaker 6>another solution. So Bobby's a very smart person, works very hard.

0:39:40.426 --> 0:39:43.866
<v Speaker 6>He has an interesting perspective because he was on the

0:39:43.866 --> 0:39:47.026
<v Speaker 6>defensive side of the ball, and sometimes I would say,

0:39:47.146 --> 0:39:49.826
<v Speaker 6>you know, I would speak from experience. When you work

0:39:49.866 --> 0:39:51.666
<v Speaker 6>on the opposite side of the ball, it gives you

0:39:51.706 --> 0:39:55.106
<v Speaker 6>a better understanding of what goes on on you know,

0:39:55.386 --> 0:39:57.666
<v Speaker 6>their respective side side of the coin.

0:39:57.706 --> 0:39:57.906
<v Speaker 5>There.

0:39:57.986 --> 0:40:00.426
<v Speaker 6>So in Bobby's case, he kind of had a background

0:40:00.466 --> 0:40:03.106
<v Speaker 6>in defense. Of course, his dad has been a very

0:40:03.226 --> 0:40:07.306
<v Speaker 6>successful defensive coach. His brother's down here in Miami coaching

0:40:07.346 --> 0:40:10.146
<v Speaker 6>on defense. So Bobby has a really unique background.

0:40:10.306 --> 0:40:10.706
<v Speaker 5>Very smart.

0:40:10.746 --> 0:40:13.426
<v Speaker 6>I mean, anybody goes to Michigan Tech, like you got

0:40:13.466 --> 0:40:14.186
<v Speaker 6>to be pretty smart.

0:40:14.226 --> 0:40:16.386
<v Speaker 1>So I think he also works for a pro football

0:40:16.426 --> 0:40:18.426
<v Speaker 1>focus for a while, I'm not mistaken, Like he was

0:40:18.426 --> 0:40:19.946
<v Speaker 1>on the analytics side doing research.

0:40:20.266 --> 0:40:20.866
<v Speaker 2>That's different.

0:40:20.946 --> 0:40:22.866
<v Speaker 6>So you learn a lot and then when you go

0:40:22.906 --> 0:40:25.906
<v Speaker 6>anytime you go into a situation, you're trying to figure out,

0:40:25.906 --> 0:40:27.946
<v Speaker 6>all right, these are things that are important. We want

0:40:27.986 --> 0:40:30.626
<v Speaker 6>to start here are who are the players? What are

0:40:30.666 --> 0:40:32.666
<v Speaker 6>we going to do and then you know, we're eight

0:40:32.706 --> 0:40:34.506
<v Speaker 6>games into the season. Now I think we have a

0:40:34.546 --> 0:40:36.506
<v Speaker 6>decent idea of some of the things that you know,

0:40:36.546 --> 0:40:40.226
<v Speaker 6>maybe either quarterback does well or certain players do well. Understanding,

0:40:40.266 --> 0:40:42.186
<v Speaker 6>we still have nine games out of us and there's

0:40:42.186 --> 0:40:45.106
<v Speaker 6>a lot of good coaches out there, so you know,

0:40:45.306 --> 0:40:47.746
<v Speaker 6>we've put together Dimico's put together a great staff.

0:40:47.746 --> 0:40:48.586
<v Speaker 5>They work well together.

0:40:48.626 --> 0:40:51.666
<v Speaker 6>It's a good combination of youth and experience and really,

0:40:51.746 --> 0:40:54.746
<v Speaker 6>whatever your background is, that's kind of your your starting point.

0:40:55.066 --> 0:40:57.106
<v Speaker 6>But the reality is you're trying to create your own

0:40:57.186 --> 0:40:58.906
<v Speaker 6>image of what you wanted to look like.

0:40:59.306 --> 0:41:01.346
<v Speaker 2>All right, Now, let's talk about you a little bit here. Okay.

0:41:01.346 --> 0:41:04.306
<v Speaker 1>You're born in lind Hurst, Ohio. All right, you're going

0:41:04.346 --> 0:41:07.746
<v Speaker 1>to have to lindn Hurst, Ohio. Okay, and you're from

0:41:07.786 --> 0:41:10.106
<v Speaker 1>what I call the John Cairol Mafia. You go to

0:41:10.306 --> 0:41:13.306
<v Speaker 1>John Carroll where all of you guys, I feel like

0:41:13.426 --> 0:41:15.346
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight percent of the gms and coaches in the

0:41:15.426 --> 0:41:20.746
<v Speaker 1>league quietly went to John Carroll. You know, John, But

0:41:20.826 --> 0:41:23.866
<v Speaker 1>it's not a straight shot to New England. You start

0:41:23.866 --> 0:41:26.866
<v Speaker 1>off at Saginaw Valley State as a grad assistant. You

0:41:26.946 --> 0:41:29.946
<v Speaker 1>end up going to Central Michigan and then you end

0:41:30.026 --> 0:41:32.506
<v Speaker 1>up with the Patriots as a coach and you're coaching

0:41:32.546 --> 0:41:36.986
<v Speaker 1>them for a while before making the move to moving

0:41:37.026 --> 0:41:39.426
<v Speaker 1>over to the director of pro personnel. So take us

0:41:39.426 --> 0:41:41.946
<v Speaker 1>through your path a little bit. Let's go from from

0:41:42.146 --> 0:41:44.346
<v Speaker 1>graduating college and what you wanted to do for a

0:41:44.346 --> 0:41:45.506
<v Speaker 1>living and how you got there.

0:41:46.426 --> 0:41:49.746
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so when I got to college, you know, I

0:41:49.746 --> 0:41:52.346
<v Speaker 6>thought I was going to major in political science, go

0:41:52.386 --> 0:41:54.706
<v Speaker 6>to law school, kind of take that route and switch

0:41:54.786 --> 0:41:56.506
<v Speaker 6>my majors a few times. I think I went from

0:41:56.546 --> 0:42:00.586
<v Speaker 6>marketing to finance. I enjoyed finance, even going all the

0:42:00.626 --> 0:42:04.346
<v Speaker 6>way back to when I was in my senior year

0:42:04.386 --> 0:42:06.226
<v Speaker 6>of high school. University school, we had to do kind

0:42:06.226 --> 0:42:09.946
<v Speaker 6>of a one month internship and I did an internship

0:42:09.986 --> 0:42:12.786
<v Speaker 6>at Kidder Peabody, which is not defunct. And then eventually

0:42:12.826 --> 0:42:16.106
<v Speaker 6>Smith Barney worked for a guy with the name of

0:42:16.146 --> 0:42:18.466
<v Speaker 6>Jeff Rotsky. Jeff actually has been a really successful high

0:42:18.506 --> 0:42:20.546
<v Speaker 6>school coach. So Jeff kind of had the balance of

0:42:21.266 --> 0:42:24.586
<v Speaker 6>football business, you know, where he was basically a stockbroker

0:42:24.626 --> 0:42:27.506
<v Speaker 6>by day, and then he ended up coaching multiple high

0:42:27.546 --> 0:42:31.746
<v Speaker 6>schools in the city at Cleveland. So anyways, so as

0:42:31.786 --> 0:42:37.546
<v Speaker 6>a finance major, So I finished football December nineteen ninety

0:42:37.546 --> 0:42:39.666
<v Speaker 6>eight and then started working at Merrill Lynch.

0:42:39.706 --> 0:42:43.066
<v Speaker 5>I was working for. Jeff was working in finance. We

0:42:43.106 --> 0:42:43.866
<v Speaker 5>had a is that right?

0:42:43.866 --> 0:42:45.666
<v Speaker 2>What were you doing? Were you like a press off?

0:42:45.746 --> 0:42:48.186
<v Speaker 6>And he's doing research and we had a fee base

0:42:48.266 --> 0:42:50.106
<v Speaker 6>product that we were pitching at the time, so I

0:42:50.186 --> 0:42:52.346
<v Speaker 6>was kind of responsible for that. You know, where you

0:42:52.426 --> 0:42:55.026
<v Speaker 6>match up certain money managers. Here's a product we offer,

0:42:55.186 --> 0:42:57.786
<v Speaker 6>here's the uh, here's the fund, here's some of the

0:42:57.826 --> 0:43:00.866
<v Speaker 6>holdings within the fund. Essentially try to pitch that to clients.

0:43:01.506 --> 0:43:04.746
<v Speaker 6>So started doing that. In January, my best friend John

0:43:04.786 --> 0:43:07.586
<v Speaker 6>Priestep and I started working together. So John and I

0:43:07.586 --> 0:43:11.426
<v Speaker 6>are working together, living together. John played receiver for US

0:43:11.466 --> 0:43:15.426
<v Speaker 6>at John Carroll. He and I established an unbelievable friendship

0:43:16.026 --> 0:43:17.626
<v Speaker 6>from the time that he arrived on camp. So John

0:43:17.626 --> 0:43:19.146
<v Speaker 6>and I were working together, so we kind of had

0:43:19.146 --> 0:43:21.506
<v Speaker 6>a professional life making decent money.

0:43:21.626 --> 0:43:25.106
<v Speaker 1>Had the picture in subway ads and billboards like here

0:43:25.146 --> 0:43:27.146
<v Speaker 1>we are, this is the two guys, the two young

0:43:27.186 --> 0:43:29.986
<v Speaker 1>bros selling stock tips and yeah exactly.

0:43:30.106 --> 0:43:30.346
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:30.506 --> 0:43:34.906
<v Speaker 6>So while we started working, you know, I think I

0:43:34.946 --> 0:43:37.706
<v Speaker 6>had an itch for football and sport, and I'd say

0:43:37.746 --> 0:43:40.666
<v Speaker 6>that my the root of that is, you know, my

0:43:40.826 --> 0:43:43.106
<v Speaker 6>high school coach, my high school head coach and office coordinator,

0:43:43.186 --> 0:43:46.906
<v Speaker 6>John Carroll Operella got rest his soul, had a tremendous impact,

0:43:46.906 --> 0:43:49.746
<v Speaker 6>I'd say on my life. He helped me as a player.

0:43:49.786 --> 0:43:52.146
<v Speaker 6>He helped me via calm the player that I developed into.

0:43:52.186 --> 0:43:54.746
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I wasn't very good, but he got the

0:43:54.746 --> 0:43:57.066
<v Speaker 6>most out of me. I'd like to think that I

0:43:57.106 --> 0:44:00.146
<v Speaker 6>worked pretty hard at football and cared a lot about football,

0:44:00.586 --> 0:44:03.026
<v Speaker 6>and I love being around the sport and being around

0:44:03.026 --> 0:44:06.866
<v Speaker 6>the game. So at the time I was single, I

0:44:06.906 --> 0:44:10.506
<v Speaker 6>didn't have any sort of connections to anybody or anything.

0:44:10.746 --> 0:44:15.026
<v Speaker 6>So I went on the football scoop or whatever. They

0:44:16.746 --> 0:44:20.266
<v Speaker 6>a graduate assistant job. So I literally I drove to

0:44:20.386 --> 0:44:24.506
<v Speaker 6>Concordy University, which is outside of Chicago. They interviewed there,

0:44:25.026 --> 0:44:27.426
<v Speaker 6>and then I took another day trip up to Saginaw Valley.

0:44:27.826 --> 0:44:30.826
<v Speaker 6>Literally didn't know a coach, didn't know anybody on staff.

0:44:31.426 --> 0:44:33.826
<v Speaker 6>Just wanted to be in football. So I drove to

0:44:33.826 --> 0:44:36.186
<v Speaker 6>Saganaw Valley, met with coach or Randy Ori, I was

0:44:36.186 --> 0:44:38.026
<v Speaker 6>a head coach at the time. I went over there

0:44:38.026 --> 0:44:40.466
<v Speaker 6>over the summer, said coach, look, I just just want

0:44:40.466 --> 0:44:42.026
<v Speaker 6>to be in football. I just want to be involved.

0:44:42.466 --> 0:44:44.826
<v Speaker 6>I'll take whatever job you have available. They had posted

0:44:44.826 --> 0:44:47.106
<v Speaker 6>a position. It was an offensive grad assistant position or

0:44:47.146 --> 0:44:50.826
<v Speaker 6>whatever it was. And then by the and along with that,

0:44:51.426 --> 0:44:54.306
<v Speaker 6>I was able to pursue an NBA you know, so

0:44:54.946 --> 0:44:57.546
<v Speaker 6>I could coach. I could still work on some schooling.

0:44:57.706 --> 0:45:00.146
<v Speaker 6>So it was kind of two for one. I'd say,

0:45:00.186 --> 0:45:03.746
<v Speaker 6>two areas that I was fairly passionate about. So started

0:45:03.746 --> 0:45:04.586
<v Speaker 6>Saganaw Valley.

0:45:05.066 --> 0:45:06.826
<v Speaker 1>Let me just put this in the perspective. So, you're

0:45:06.866 --> 0:45:08.866
<v Speaker 1>making real money living in a city, right, You're living

0:45:08.866 --> 0:45:09.306
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland.

0:45:09.426 --> 0:45:10.066
<v Speaker 2>We're living Yeah.

0:45:10.066 --> 0:45:12.626
<v Speaker 6>I was making a decent amount of money at the time. Yeah,

0:45:12.706 --> 0:45:14.666
<v Speaker 6>and then I took a graduate assistant position. I think

0:45:14.666 --> 0:45:16.506
<v Speaker 6>it was making I don't know, twenty five hundred dollars

0:45:16.586 --> 0:45:17.226
<v Speaker 6>a year, so.

0:45:17.346 --> 0:45:19.786
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five hundred a year. But think about this you had.

0:45:19.866 --> 0:45:22.546
<v Speaker 1>It's very easy though, for you to say, you know what,

0:45:22.866 --> 0:45:25.106
<v Speaker 1>I've got a job, I've got a nice apartment paying

0:45:25.146 --> 0:45:25.506
<v Speaker 1>my rent.

0:45:25.786 --> 0:45:28.626
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Cleveland's cool city with my best friend. But

0:45:28.666 --> 0:45:30.706
<v Speaker 2>the football which was so great that you gave it

0:45:30.746 --> 0:45:34.666
<v Speaker 2>all up and drove with no connection to Saginaw Valley

0:45:34.786 --> 0:45:37.066
<v Speaker 2>State to work for next to nothing, just to get

0:45:37.106 --> 0:45:37.786
<v Speaker 2>your foot in the door.

0:45:38.106 --> 0:45:39.626
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I think a lot of us have been

0:45:39.626 --> 0:45:41.946
<v Speaker 6>in the same situation. But I'd say going back to John,

0:45:42.426 --> 0:45:46.346
<v Speaker 6>I'd say his family was a huge impact. They essentially,

0:45:46.626 --> 0:45:50.306
<v Speaker 6>you know, helped me over a two year period. And

0:45:50.386 --> 0:45:53.866
<v Speaker 6>John is from outside of Detroit, so he had family there.

0:45:53.986 --> 0:45:56.346
<v Speaker 6>So that was the only people that I really knew.

0:45:56.346 --> 0:45:58.786
<v Speaker 6>And you know, John was supported. Here's my best friend

0:45:58.946 --> 0:46:02.026
<v Speaker 6>working together. He was supporting as anybody. So I went

0:46:02.066 --> 0:46:03.906
<v Speaker 6>up to Saginaw Valley. We actually had a pretty good

0:46:03.946 --> 0:46:07.746
<v Speaker 6>team my second year, so working on offense, kind of

0:46:07.746 --> 0:46:10.506
<v Speaker 6>working with the running backs, handling some of the special teams,

0:46:10.586 --> 0:46:12.706
<v Speaker 6>and then I was also going to class at night,

0:46:13.026 --> 0:46:14.746
<v Speaker 6>and I loved it. I mean, I was in football,

0:46:14.946 --> 0:46:16.626
<v Speaker 6>I was going to school. I think I'm a pretty

0:46:16.666 --> 0:46:20.946
<v Speaker 6>curious individual in nature like learning. So two seasons at

0:46:20.986 --> 0:46:24.706
<v Speaker 6>Saginaw Valley and then in January of twenty it would

0:46:24.706 --> 0:46:28.986
<v Speaker 6>have been twenty excuse me, two thousand and one, there

0:46:29.026 --> 0:46:32.546
<v Speaker 6>was a grad assistant position available at Central Michigan. And

0:46:32.586 --> 0:46:36.066
<v Speaker 6>the reason I came across that was typically when you're

0:46:36.106 --> 0:46:38.026
<v Speaker 6>a grad assistant and you're a college coach, you work

0:46:38.106 --> 0:46:41.066
<v Speaker 6>summer camps that's your way to make a few. So

0:46:41.546 --> 0:46:44.666
<v Speaker 6>worked a football camp at Central Michigan University when Mike

0:46:44.706 --> 0:46:47.866
<v Speaker 6>the Board was a coach there, and then Butch Jones

0:46:47.906 --> 0:46:51.106
<v Speaker 6>was a running backs coach at Central Michigan. So Butch

0:46:51.146 --> 0:46:52.746
<v Speaker 6>and I had kind of maintained contact.

0:46:52.786 --> 0:46:53.986
<v Speaker 5>So he was at Central Michigan.

0:46:54.506 --> 0:46:58.266
<v Speaker 6>So through communication, through dialogue and discussion, he had mentioned

0:46:58.306 --> 0:47:01.346
<v Speaker 6>that there was potentially a GA position that was available.

0:47:01.386 --> 0:47:06.106
<v Speaker 6>So from January oh one till June so I was

0:47:06.146 --> 0:47:08.226
<v Speaker 6>a great I had assistant at Central Michigan. I started

0:47:08.226 --> 0:47:09.626
<v Speaker 6>working on a defensive side of the ball with the

0:47:09.666 --> 0:47:12.106
<v Speaker 6>outside linebackers and John Mulligan was a defensive coordinator at

0:47:12.106 --> 0:47:14.026
<v Speaker 6>the time. We actually had a really good stat John

0:47:14.066 --> 0:47:16.306
<v Speaker 6>Mulligan was a defensive coordinator. Scott Leffler was the head

0:47:16.306 --> 0:47:20.026
<v Speaker 6>coach a Bowling Green it was kind of quarterbacks coach coach.

0:47:20.186 --> 0:47:23.146
<v Speaker 6>Butch Jones was he, you know, was the running backs coach,

0:47:23.186 --> 0:47:25.826
<v Speaker 6>and Mike the Board who coach had you know, he's

0:47:25.826 --> 0:47:28.146
<v Speaker 6>been an office coordinator and the SEC's been a head coach.

0:47:28.226 --> 0:47:29.426
<v Speaker 5>So so started.

0:47:29.706 --> 0:47:32.666
<v Speaker 6>So during the day I would I would go up

0:47:32.666 --> 0:47:35.146
<v Speaker 6>there and do football, and then in the evening I

0:47:35.146 --> 0:47:37.746
<v Speaker 6>would drive from Mount Pleasant to Saginaw and take my

0:47:37.826 --> 0:47:39.306
<v Speaker 6>classes two or three times a week.

0:47:39.546 --> 0:47:42.186
<v Speaker 1>So you stayed in Saginaw, but you were coaching at

0:47:42.186 --> 0:47:42.866
<v Speaker 1>Central Michigan.

0:47:42.946 --> 0:47:43.306
<v Speaker 7>How long?

0:47:43.426 --> 0:47:44.186
<v Speaker 2>How far is that?

0:47:44.426 --> 0:47:47.186
<v Speaker 6>It was about a forty five minute to sixty minute drive,

0:47:47.266 --> 0:47:48.866
<v Speaker 6>so I didn't go back and forth.

0:47:49.346 --> 0:47:51.506
<v Speaker 5>So it was in my apartment in Mount Pleasant.

0:47:51.506 --> 0:47:53.466
<v Speaker 6>So I worked during the day and then if I

0:47:53.466 --> 0:47:54.866
<v Speaker 6>had class, I think it was like two or three

0:47:54.866 --> 0:47:56.346
<v Speaker 6>times a week, I'd go take class and then I

0:47:56.466 --> 0:48:00.306
<v Speaker 6>come back. And that was kind of my routine for

0:48:00.546 --> 0:48:01.786
<v Speaker 6>six months in the spring.

0:48:02.786 --> 0:48:04.546
<v Speaker 5>It's because I wanted to finish Miami.

0:48:04.666 --> 0:48:06.186
<v Speaker 1>He's going to say, why did you? Why did you

0:48:06.506 --> 0:48:08.666
<v Speaker 1>through that NBA so aggressive? Was there always in the

0:48:08.706 --> 0:48:10.626
<v Speaker 1>back of your head, like, well, if this doesn't work out,

0:48:10.706 --> 0:48:11.986
<v Speaker 1>or is it just you always wanted it?

0:48:12.386 --> 0:48:12.626
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:48:12.626 --> 0:48:15.546
<v Speaker 6>I would say I was interested in finance as interested

0:48:15.546 --> 0:48:17.826
<v Speaker 6>in business, and I kind of started down that path.

0:48:17.986 --> 0:48:20.346
<v Speaker 6>And my you know, my mom and dad always taught me,

0:48:20.386 --> 0:48:22.386
<v Speaker 6>once you start something, you need to finish.

0:48:22.506 --> 0:48:24.146
<v Speaker 5>So I did you know, I can very easily could have.

0:48:24.066 --> 0:48:26.546
<v Speaker 6>Walked away, but I invested eighteen months of my time,

0:48:26.626 --> 0:48:29.346
<v Speaker 6>so you know, I was, you know, this semester out,

0:48:29.586 --> 0:48:32.106
<v Speaker 6>so I said there's no way I'm not going to

0:48:32.186 --> 0:48:34.826
<v Speaker 6>do this. So and coach the board was great. He

0:48:34.906 --> 0:48:37.026
<v Speaker 6>understood kind of my predicament that I was in. So,

0:48:38.106 --> 0:48:40.026
<v Speaker 6>you know, education, I would say, is a big part

0:48:40.066 --> 0:48:42.346
<v Speaker 6>of my life, but a lot of time, you know,

0:48:42.386 --> 0:48:44.986
<v Speaker 6>and be able to message that to my daughters certainly

0:48:45.026 --> 0:48:45.626
<v Speaker 6>be important.

0:48:45.746 --> 0:48:48.106
<v Speaker 5>So I was able to finish my MBA.

0:48:48.426 --> 0:48:51.666
<v Speaker 6>Like I said, I'm interested in finance, I'm interested in investments.

0:48:51.746 --> 0:48:54.626
<v Speaker 5>I was at the time. I still am to this day.

0:48:55.386 --> 0:48:58.666
<v Speaker 6>So finished off that kind of January until June, and

0:48:58.706 --> 0:49:01.786
<v Speaker 6>then in February of one. At the time, Josh had

0:49:01.826 --> 0:49:04.426
<v Speaker 6>been hired by New England to be kind of QC

0:49:04.626 --> 0:49:09.146
<v Speaker 6>quality control. So obviously our relationship goes back to our

0:49:09.186 --> 0:49:12.106
<v Speaker 6>time together at you know, John Carroll, so that he

0:49:12.146 --> 0:49:14.866
<v Speaker 6>had mentioned that, hey, there might be an opportunity in

0:49:14.906 --> 0:49:17.586
<v Speaker 6>New England as a scouting assistant. Would you be interested

0:49:17.586 --> 0:49:19.386
<v Speaker 6>in kind of play a personnel And at the time

0:49:19.426 --> 0:49:21.226
<v Speaker 6>I had no idea what player personnel in the NFL

0:49:21.386 --> 0:49:23.426
<v Speaker 6>was like zero, Like no idea.

0:49:23.306 --> 0:49:23.746
<v Speaker 2>Did you even?

0:49:23.826 --> 0:49:26.266
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, so Josh McDaniels is working there already

0:49:26.306 --> 0:49:28.626
<v Speaker 1>and you get this call and you're thinking, was it

0:49:28.666 --> 0:49:29.986
<v Speaker 1>was the NFL even a thought.

0:49:30.906 --> 0:49:32.026
<v Speaker 5>No, Peter, not at all.

0:49:32.146 --> 0:49:34.786
<v Speaker 6>I mean I was certainly happy enjoying what I was

0:49:34.826 --> 0:49:37.146
<v Speaker 6>doing in college. I thought, Okay, my next opportunity, maybe

0:49:37.146 --> 0:49:39.986
<v Speaker 6>I can get a full time position in college football somewhere,

0:49:39.986 --> 0:49:42.146
<v Speaker 6>maybe be a position coach or strict at earnings or

0:49:42.186 --> 0:49:43.666
<v Speaker 6>whatever the natural progression was.

0:49:44.386 --> 0:49:46.266
<v Speaker 5>So so I was.

0:49:46.186 --> 0:49:49.146
<v Speaker 6>Working through Central Central and then you know, the middle

0:49:49.226 --> 0:49:51.746
<v Speaker 6>of it was like June, June. We were just about

0:49:51.746 --> 0:49:53.426
<v Speaker 6>to finish up, you know, and Josh said, hey, look,

0:49:53.466 --> 0:49:55.346
<v Speaker 6>you know there's a position. Would you be interested? And

0:49:55.426 --> 0:49:57.906
<v Speaker 6>I said, sure, I'll come up in interview, so I'll

0:49:57.906 --> 0:50:01.066
<v Speaker 6>never forget. I got the call Nancy Meyer, who's one

0:50:01.146 --> 0:50:03.306
<v Speaker 6>of to this day one of my best friends, who

0:50:03.546 --> 0:50:07.066
<v Speaker 6>i'd say has the biggest influence in my life as anybody.

0:50:07.146 --> 0:50:09.906
<v Speaker 6>So she connected me. Scott at the time was overseeing

0:50:09.906 --> 0:50:13.946
<v Speaker 6>personnel and New Yeah. So Nancy said, hey, can you

0:50:13.986 --> 0:50:16.346
<v Speaker 6>get on a flight in Detroit at whatever time it was?

0:50:16.426 --> 0:50:18.906
<v Speaker 6>I said, yeah, no problem, this is probably midday, so

0:50:19.146 --> 0:50:22.266
<v Speaker 6>and Detroit was probably two to two and a half hour.

0:50:22.466 --> 0:50:24.306
<v Speaker 6>I mean, give her to I can't exactly, but it's

0:50:24.306 --> 0:50:26.146
<v Speaker 6>a decent drive for Mount Pleasant to Detroit.

0:50:26.186 --> 0:50:28.586
<v Speaker 5>And I said yeah, no problem, I'll I'll figure it out.

0:50:29.426 --> 0:50:32.546
<v Speaker 5>So it was like a late evening flight, late afternoon flight.

0:50:32.706 --> 0:50:35.986
<v Speaker 6>Grabbed my suit and went to the UH went to

0:50:36.026 --> 0:50:38.306
<v Speaker 6>the airport, changed into my suit in a stall in

0:50:38.346 --> 0:50:42.626
<v Speaker 6>the men's mentathroom, and then got on the plane. Got

0:50:42.666 --> 0:50:45.506
<v Speaker 6>there that night, and then interviewed the next day. It

0:50:45.506 --> 0:50:47.546
<v Speaker 6>was in scouting. It was a player of personnel assistant,

0:50:47.666 --> 0:50:49.986
<v Speaker 6>so all the things that go along with that. I

0:50:49.986 --> 0:50:54.426
<v Speaker 6>would say responsibility, scouting assistant, personnel assistant.

0:50:53.986 --> 0:50:56.586
<v Speaker 5>Whenever you want to terament. So went up there and interviewed.

0:50:57.626 --> 0:50:59.626
<v Speaker 2>You know, did you meet Belichick on that first interview?

0:50:59.626 --> 0:51:00.946
<v Speaker 2>You don't even get to the Belichick level.

0:51:00.986 --> 0:51:02.946
<v Speaker 6>It might have been a quick like hey, great to

0:51:02.946 --> 0:51:05.386
<v Speaker 6>meet you, kind of a jove. And we were in

0:51:05.426 --> 0:51:08.746
<v Speaker 6>the old Foxboro State at the time, so the offices

0:51:08.786 --> 0:51:10.626
<v Speaker 6>were kind of up on a second floor. They were

0:51:10.706 --> 0:51:13.186
<v Speaker 6>kind of hidden, so it was kind of a dilapidated

0:51:13.946 --> 0:51:15.386
<v Speaker 6>rush for staying this but a little bit of a

0:51:15.466 --> 0:51:19.466
<v Speaker 6>dilapidated setup. So anyways, so I went and interviewed, went

0:51:19.506 --> 0:51:23.346
<v Speaker 6>back to UH Central and they called and they said,

0:51:23.386 --> 0:51:25.066
<v Speaker 6>you know, would you be interested in this position?

0:51:25.106 --> 0:51:27.786
<v Speaker 5>And I said, you know, absolutely, So went talked to

0:51:27.826 --> 0:51:28.506
<v Speaker 5>coach to board.

0:51:29.066 --> 0:51:31.706
<v Speaker 6>He was gracious enough to let me out and then

0:51:31.786 --> 0:51:33.546
<v Speaker 6>so I was hired in the middle of June kind

0:51:33.586 --> 0:51:35.826
<v Speaker 6>of two thousand and one in New England, went up

0:51:35.826 --> 0:51:37.586
<v Speaker 6>there for a week or two, kind of got situated

0:51:37.626 --> 0:51:41.266
<v Speaker 6>at organized, and then that fall of two thousand, training

0:51:41.266 --> 0:51:44.826
<v Speaker 6>camp two thousand and one started. I'd say, really kind

0:51:44.826 --> 0:51:47.826
<v Speaker 6>of got off to an inauspicious start if you were,

0:51:48.346 --> 0:51:52.226
<v Speaker 6>you know, with coach Ravine passed away in literally a

0:51:52.266 --> 0:51:55.186
<v Speaker 6>week of training camp, so there was sort of a

0:51:55.346 --> 0:51:59.906
<v Speaker 6>recalibration and reallocation of responsibilities. So and at the time

0:52:00.066 --> 0:52:01.826
<v Speaker 6>it was just whatever I'm asked to do, I'm going

0:52:01.866 --> 0:52:03.866
<v Speaker 6>to do it. So they literally handed me a playbook

0:52:04.146 --> 0:52:06.746
<v Speaker 6>and at the time we were literally hand right and

0:52:06.746 --> 0:52:09.466
<v Speaker 6>breaking down the film. I think coach Dable Brian went

0:52:09.506 --> 0:52:11.906
<v Speaker 6>through this, Josh went through it, where you literally you

0:52:12.106 --> 0:52:16.866
<v Speaker 6>diagram each play all twenty two players, the play the alignments,

0:52:16.906 --> 0:52:21.266
<v Speaker 6>the technique, the term. So one game took you literally

0:52:21.346 --> 0:52:23.626
<v Speaker 6>six to eight hours to break down. This isn't you know,

0:52:23.866 --> 0:52:26.746
<v Speaker 6>jump on a computer and input the information and evaluate

0:52:26.746 --> 0:52:29.306
<v Speaker 6>the data. So and I didn't have any background in

0:52:29.346 --> 0:52:33.146
<v Speaker 6>the system. I literally just got on campus. So they

0:52:33.226 --> 0:52:35.426
<v Speaker 6>literally handed me a playbook and said, you're going to

0:52:35.466 --> 0:52:37.426
<v Speaker 6>break the film down for the offensive staff. That's going

0:52:37.466 --> 0:52:38.906
<v Speaker 6>to be your job during the year. So part of

0:52:38.946 --> 0:52:42.466
<v Speaker 6>my job that was to stay a week ahead, so

0:52:42.546 --> 0:52:44.986
<v Speaker 6>I would do three or four games and the opponent,

0:52:45.066 --> 0:52:48.106
<v Speaker 6>and then by Friday before the Sunday game, I had

0:52:48.106 --> 0:52:49.946
<v Speaker 6>to hand that to Charlie White, who was the offensive

0:52:49.986 --> 0:52:51.866
<v Speaker 6>coording at the time, so that he could kind of

0:52:51.866 --> 0:52:54.786
<v Speaker 6>start his preparation. So I was sort of the sort

0:52:54.826 --> 0:52:58.266
<v Speaker 6>of the first introduction to the opponent. So did that

0:52:58.466 --> 0:53:03.386
<v Speaker 6>responsibility all year in addition to my personnel kind of

0:53:03.386 --> 0:53:06.706
<v Speaker 6>scouting assistant assignments. So that was my first year in

0:53:06.746 --> 0:53:10.266
<v Speaker 6>the NFL, and you know, it just kind of kept

0:53:10.346 --> 0:53:13.106
<v Speaker 6>I would say, snowballing from there. And then I would say,

0:53:13.146 --> 0:53:14.826
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to say each year the job kind

0:53:14.826 --> 0:53:17.746
<v Speaker 6>of changed or my role kind of changed, but I

0:53:17.746 --> 0:53:19.746
<v Speaker 6>mean the thought process was trying to show up, try

0:53:19.786 --> 0:53:22.426
<v Speaker 6>to put a good product out there, just work as

0:53:22.426 --> 0:53:25.866
<v Speaker 6>hard as possible I can and make them, you know,

0:53:25.946 --> 0:53:28.786
<v Speaker 6>want to keep me around, understanding nothing is guaranteed. I

0:53:28.786 --> 0:53:31.466
<v Speaker 6>mean I think I was making you know, fourteen thousand

0:53:31.506 --> 0:53:33.426
<v Speaker 6>dollars my first year in the NFL, and make work

0:53:33.546 --> 0:53:35.506
<v Speaker 6>full time in the NFL. Living in Boston, I mean

0:53:35.546 --> 0:53:40.226
<v Speaker 6>I get an apartment with Actually I live with Clay Barnetts.

0:53:40.226 --> 0:53:44.626
<v Speaker 6>So Clay Gary Barnett's sun was a successful a coach

0:53:44.626 --> 0:53:49.586
<v Speaker 6>at Colorado. So we literally we were in a vacated

0:53:49.946 --> 0:53:52.466
<v Speaker 6>two story building that got turned into apartments, like an

0:53:52.506 --> 0:53:55.946
<v Speaker 6>industrial building got turned into apartments where the windows there

0:53:55.986 --> 0:53:58.546
<v Speaker 6>was no locks, so you could open up and down

0:53:58.586 --> 0:54:01.026
<v Speaker 6>and you could climb like literally through the windows, like

0:54:01.106 --> 0:54:02.746
<v Speaker 6>if you wanted to. So matter of fact, I was

0:54:02.786 --> 0:54:04.226
<v Speaker 6>locked out of the apartment one day and the only

0:54:04.266 --> 0:54:04.746
<v Speaker 6>way get in.

0:54:04.746 --> 0:54:07.546
<v Speaker 5>Was climb through the windows. So we lived in Providence.

0:54:07.546 --> 0:54:09.866
<v Speaker 6>My first year is a thirty minute commute from Providence

0:54:09.866 --> 0:54:10.866
<v Speaker 6>to Foxboro Stadium.

0:54:10.866 --> 0:54:12.506
<v Speaker 2>He probably lived at the facility though, right, I mean

0:54:12.546 --> 0:54:12.786
<v Speaker 2>who we.

0:54:12.786 --> 0:54:14.946
<v Speaker 5>Can't exactly exactly, so you're there.

0:54:14.946 --> 0:54:17.666
<v Speaker 6>I mean I was twenty whatever I was at the time,

0:54:17.706 --> 0:54:18.906
<v Speaker 6>so I had nothing else going on.

0:54:19.026 --> 0:54:20.506
<v Speaker 5>So that was my first year.

0:54:20.546 --> 0:54:22.586
<v Speaker 1>And can I throw out some names? So like your

0:54:22.626 --> 0:54:26.506
<v Speaker 1>first year there, I think Brady's a backup. He's already

0:54:26.506 --> 0:54:28.786
<v Speaker 1>been there a year. BLEDSOE goes down, where were you

0:54:28.826 --> 0:54:29.026
<v Speaker 1>for that?

0:54:29.746 --> 0:54:30.026
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:54:30.146 --> 0:54:32.186
<v Speaker 6>No, we were playing the Jets, so you know, we

0:54:32.226 --> 0:54:34.066
<v Speaker 6>had the whole nine to eleven situation that we were

0:54:34.546 --> 0:54:36.826
<v Speaker 6>going through. Actually, so before we get to plane the Jets.

0:54:36.906 --> 0:54:39.946
<v Speaker 6>So you know, part of my responsibility as a scouting

0:54:39.946 --> 0:54:43.666
<v Speaker 6>assistant was when we brought players in for workouts on Tuesday,

0:54:43.826 --> 0:54:47.226
<v Speaker 6>was to transport them back and forth from the stadium

0:54:47.346 --> 0:54:50.306
<v Speaker 6>to the hospital. So the Mass General Hospital is right

0:54:50.346 --> 0:54:52.826
<v Speaker 6>in Boston Foxboro Stadium, you know, call it thirty minutes

0:54:52.866 --> 0:54:55.186
<v Speaker 6>outside of Boston or so, so we had a group

0:54:55.226 --> 0:54:58.186
<v Speaker 6>of players in nine to eleven. So I was driving

0:54:58.186 --> 0:55:01.546
<v Speaker 6>to the airport and quarter to nine nine o'clock, just

0:55:01.626 --> 0:55:05.186
<v Speaker 6>as the plane hours, I was parking the car in

0:55:05.266 --> 0:55:09.186
<v Speaker 6>the garage of Mass General Hospital and we started to

0:55:09.506 --> 0:55:12.346
<v Speaker 6>get some information like what's going on. So we had

0:55:12.506 --> 0:55:14.666
<v Speaker 6>a handful of players that were in so they got

0:55:14.666 --> 0:55:17.546
<v Speaker 6>their physicals, then drove back to the stadium and then

0:55:17.586 --> 0:55:20.306
<v Speaker 6>obviously everybody has their attention turned to what was going

0:55:20.306 --> 0:55:21.106
<v Speaker 6>on in the television.

0:55:21.146 --> 0:55:22.746
<v Speaker 5>So that was that day.

0:55:22.826 --> 0:55:24.306
<v Speaker 6>So it was the week if we were supposed to

0:55:24.306 --> 0:55:26.826
<v Speaker 6>play the Jets that week, and then that game got canceled,

0:55:26.906 --> 0:55:28.986
<v Speaker 6>right so then we you know, shifted gears moved it

0:55:29.026 --> 0:55:32.066
<v Speaker 6>to the following week. So during home games, I would

0:55:32.066 --> 0:55:33.786
<v Speaker 6>go up in the press box and then I would

0:55:33.826 --> 0:55:37.626
<v Speaker 6>actually kind of for self scouting purposes, chart our game

0:55:37.746 --> 0:55:39.826
<v Speaker 6>so that could in put it into the system, you know,

0:55:39.866 --> 0:55:42.626
<v Speaker 6>the following morning. So during the game, like that's what

0:55:42.706 --> 0:55:44.426
<v Speaker 6>I was doing. So I was up there just charting

0:55:44.426 --> 0:55:45.226
<v Speaker 6>a game, going through the.

0:55:45.146 --> 0:55:47.466
<v Speaker 2>Game, Lewis Knox Blood so what's I mean?

0:55:47.906 --> 0:55:49.026
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, and then.

0:55:50.426 --> 0:55:52.106
<v Speaker 6>Just kind of like all right, I'm just going to

0:55:52.186 --> 0:55:54.066
<v Speaker 6>kind of keep doing my work and kind of preparing

0:55:54.146 --> 0:55:57.666
<v Speaker 6>for tomorrow. And you know, Tom went in and you know,

0:55:57.866 --> 0:55:59.706
<v Speaker 6>we actually almost won a game there at the end.

0:55:59.826 --> 0:56:01.866
<v Speaker 6>And then you know, the following week we were owing two.

0:56:02.226 --> 0:56:05.266
<v Speaker 6>Played the Colts, Okay, who were I mean, one of

0:56:05.306 --> 0:56:06.826
<v Speaker 6>the best teams, one of the best offense in the

0:56:06.906 --> 0:56:08.786
<v Speaker 6>league at the time with Peyton and Marvins.

0:56:08.466 --> 0:56:09.786
<v Speaker 5>And the group that they had.

0:56:10.786 --> 0:56:13.826
<v Speaker 6>So that was kind of my first introduction to the

0:56:13.946 --> 0:56:17.746
<v Speaker 6>NFL the regular season, and then you know, fortunately I

0:56:17.786 --> 0:56:19.946
<v Speaker 6>was able to stay in one place for twenty some

0:56:19.946 --> 0:56:21.746
<v Speaker 6>odd years before I got here to Houston.

0:56:22.026 --> 0:56:23.786
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't have been too much older than Brady, Like

0:56:23.906 --> 0:56:25.546
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine you're a couple of years older than him,

0:56:25.586 --> 0:56:26.586
<v Speaker 2>did you, guys?

0:56:26.386 --> 0:56:26.986
<v Speaker 5>It's close?

0:56:27.306 --> 0:56:30.506
<v Speaker 1>Would you guys bes like, was that like a division

0:56:30.506 --> 0:56:30.986
<v Speaker 1>of labor.

0:56:31.266 --> 0:56:34.026
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I wasn't hanging out with the players, so to

0:56:34.066 --> 0:56:36.466
<v Speaker 6>stay as far away from the players as possible to

0:56:36.506 --> 0:56:38.386
<v Speaker 6>try to do my job. You know, I think there's

0:56:38.386 --> 0:56:41.186
<v Speaker 6>a certain professionalism that you know, you respect the players

0:56:41.186 --> 0:56:43.226
<v Speaker 6>and their privacy and what they're there to do. And

0:56:43.426 --> 0:56:45.626
<v Speaker 6>my job was to work and focus on my job

0:56:45.666 --> 0:56:48.546
<v Speaker 6>and not worry about things that you know, quite frankly

0:56:48.586 --> 0:56:50.986
<v Speaker 6>don't matter. So because in the end, I think this

0:56:51.106 --> 0:56:53.546
<v Speaker 6>league is about work. So if you keep the focus

0:56:53.586 --> 0:56:56.026
<v Speaker 6>on work, keep the focus on the things that are important,

0:56:56.066 --> 0:56:57.186
<v Speaker 6>Like that's the most important thing.

0:56:57.786 --> 0:56:59.666
<v Speaker 2>All right, give me a Vrabel story.

0:57:01.866 --> 0:57:03.706
<v Speaker 5>Actually I might.

0:57:03.866 --> 0:57:08.026
<v Speaker 6>You know, so I the first year, my first year

0:57:08.026 --> 0:57:09.746
<v Speaker 6>with the team was when you know, Scott and Bill

0:57:09.746 --> 0:57:12.146
<v Speaker 6>has signed Mike in a free agency, so that I

0:57:12.226 --> 0:57:13.946
<v Speaker 6>think we sent it up signing I don't know, twenty three,

0:57:14.066 --> 0:57:17.026
<v Speaker 6>twenty four to twenty five players that year is free agents.

0:57:17.066 --> 0:57:19.626
<v Speaker 6>So I mean Mike came in and then Mike would

0:57:19.666 --> 0:57:22.106
<v Speaker 6>go through his kind of pregame warm up routine. So

0:57:22.186 --> 0:57:25.146
<v Speaker 6>it kind of evolved into me throwing routes to Mike

0:57:26.346 --> 0:57:28.866
<v Speaker 6>his I'd say warm up, you know, and he'd always

0:57:28.866 --> 0:57:30.986
<v Speaker 6>make the comment about Hines Ward and his hands were

0:57:31.026 --> 0:57:33.346
<v Speaker 6>as good as heines word hard to refute that when.

0:57:33.266 --> 0:57:37.386
<v Speaker 5>You go back to his history. But Mike was Mike

0:57:37.546 --> 0:57:39.386
<v Speaker 5>was as tough as a come. He was as smart

0:57:39.386 --> 0:57:41.026
<v Speaker 5>as a come. He was as tough as a come.

0:57:41.106 --> 0:57:42.186
<v Speaker 5>He was very instinctive.

0:57:42.626 --> 0:57:44.626
<v Speaker 6>He cared a lot about football, but he and he

0:57:44.666 --> 0:57:48.146
<v Speaker 6>had a great sense of humor, and he worked his

0:57:48.226 --> 0:57:51.546
<v Speaker 6>ass off in practice. I would say that team there

0:57:51.626 --> 0:57:57.106
<v Speaker 6>probably you know three, you know four with Rodney, Mike Willie, like,

0:57:57.186 --> 0:58:00.106
<v Speaker 6>Mike would go back during practice, so when the offense

0:58:00.266 --> 0:58:02.946
<v Speaker 6>was going against the defensive look team working on the

0:58:02.986 --> 0:58:05.946
<v Speaker 6>cards for the next opponent, Mike would go back there

0:58:05.946 --> 0:58:08.466
<v Speaker 6>at free safety just to give Brady a hard time,

0:58:08.706 --> 0:58:10.666
<v Speaker 6>to try to make him work, to try to simulate.

0:58:11.066 --> 0:58:12.506
<v Speaker 6>And he'd take a lot of pride and a lot

0:58:12.546 --> 0:58:15.146
<v Speaker 6>of joy out of that. So and he'd talk a

0:58:15.146 --> 0:58:19.066
<v Speaker 6>lot of trash during practice. But I mean, Mike cares

0:58:19.106 --> 0:58:22.706
<v Speaker 6>about football a ton, and I think you see the

0:58:22.706 --> 0:58:25.226
<v Speaker 6>way the Titans play, they kind of play to Mike's

0:58:25.266 --> 0:58:28.826
<v Speaker 6>personality and you saw that. And Mike was a player

0:58:28.866 --> 0:58:31.266
<v Speaker 6>like whatever he was asked to do, he did it.

0:58:31.346 --> 0:58:33.906
<v Speaker 6>He played outside linebacker in three to four. Then we

0:58:33.906 --> 0:58:36.106
<v Speaker 6>needed him an inside linebacker, and Bill told him, look,

0:58:36.106 --> 0:58:38.866
<v Speaker 6>you're going to play inside linebacker and based defense. Mike

0:58:38.906 --> 0:58:41.706
<v Speaker 6>had really never played inside linebacker before, but he went

0:58:41.746 --> 0:58:43.346
<v Speaker 6>in there and he played well because that was the

0:58:43.346 --> 0:58:45.666
<v Speaker 6>best thing for the team. And I think because of

0:58:45.706 --> 0:58:47.946
<v Speaker 6>his intelligence, because of his instinctiveness, he was able to

0:58:47.986 --> 0:58:50.746
<v Speaker 6>go in there and function. And then we you know,

0:58:51.146 --> 0:58:53.706
<v Speaker 6>Charlie and Bill, you know, and go linees. John Rump

0:58:53.786 --> 0:58:55.946
<v Speaker 6>in their situations put him in there a tight end.

0:58:55.986 --> 0:58:59.146
<v Speaker 6>So you're trying to create as much value and versatility

0:58:59.186 --> 0:59:01.866
<v Speaker 6>as a player, and I'd say Mike was certainly emblematic

0:59:01.946 --> 0:59:04.506
<v Speaker 6>of that. And I think those are the always the

0:59:04.546 --> 0:59:06.346
<v Speaker 6>situations that are hard. You know, Mike was there for

0:59:06.506 --> 0:59:09.386
<v Speaker 6>or you know, on O nine and you know then

0:59:09.586 --> 0:59:12.346
<v Speaker 6>the decision was made to to move on from him.

0:59:12.546 --> 0:59:14.666
<v Speaker 6>You know, those are always, would say, the tough decisions

0:59:14.666 --> 0:59:16.826
<v Speaker 6>that you have to make, and you know that the

0:59:16.906 --> 0:59:19.626
<v Speaker 6>organization has to go through. Mike went on have a

0:59:19.626 --> 0:59:21.906
<v Speaker 6>few more productive years and then he started his career

0:59:21.946 --> 0:59:23.466
<v Speaker 6>in coaching, and you know, Mike's one of the best

0:59:23.506 --> 0:59:24.666
<v Speaker 6>coaches we have in this league.

0:59:24.866 --> 0:59:26.626
<v Speaker 2>Sure, you know, it's amazing.

0:59:26.666 --> 0:59:28.906
<v Speaker 1>So you progressed in your career going on, and everyone

0:59:28.906 --> 0:59:31.066
<v Speaker 1>knows Belichick as the greatest coach of all time, but

0:59:31.626 --> 0:59:35.026
<v Speaker 1>he's got a KNIGHTE for personnel too. For the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick as the evaluator, what did you learn from him?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how how important is he in playing

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<v Speaker 1>a role in your career as you've been guided through

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<v Speaker 1>that New England system that eventually in Houston.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, yeah, massive.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's so invested in every aspect of the process.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's rare.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's uncommon, the level of detail, the overall understanding.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think one of the things that I learned

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<v Speaker 6>from him was, among many things, was just the big

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<v Speaker 6>picture perspective of understanding all different pieces and phases fit together,

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<v Speaker 6>from offense to understanding what's going on defense defense, understanding

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<v Speaker 6>what offenses are trying to do, how they use personnel,

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<v Speaker 6>what are some of the things that are important, how

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<v Speaker 6>to evaluate players, how to focus on their strengths, what

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<v Speaker 6>are some of the things that they do well? And

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<v Speaker 6>I think just the breath and overall understanding of players

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<v Speaker 6>in the league. You'd be hard pressed to find anybody

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<v Speaker 6>who has that type of mental acuity as Bill has.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean it taught me a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think you know the fact that he had

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<v Speaker 6>enough faith and confidence and trust and you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I brought to the table. I mean certainly speaks to

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<v Speaker 6>his humility and just allowing people to do their jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean we could spend you know, one podcast

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the things offense Bill, but I'd say his

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<v Speaker 6>just level and depth understanding of every aspect of football,

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<v Speaker 6>from you know, coaching what the punt team should look like,

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<v Speaker 6>to the technique that you need to understanding you know,

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<v Speaker 6>what should happen on this double team block or the

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<v Speaker 6>three technique, the backup three technique, and what are his

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<v Speaker 6>strengths and how the team is going to use him.

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<v Speaker 6>So just his overall breath and understanding of multiple aspects.

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<v Speaker 6>What that taught me was, Okay, you want to have

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<v Speaker 6>is why the scope as possible? Just understanding because any

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<v Speaker 6>end it's a players German league, it's very personnel driven league,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think everybody has their own way that they

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<v Speaker 6>evaluate players, or how they view the game or how

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<v Speaker 6>they you know, how they go through preparing for an opponent.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would say just team philosophy, understanding coordinators that

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<v Speaker 6>typically spills over into how they call a game, it

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<v Speaker 6>spills over into how they assemble the team. So those

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<v Speaker 6>are all some things I think that you know, over

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<v Speaker 6>the course of twenty some odd years, you saw that

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<v Speaker 6>and they kind of was able to develop my own

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<v Speaker 6>process and you know realize, okay, well this is didn't work.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's a reason why. Just understanding the why behind it.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, I can't thank billing Off for the

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity that he provided for not only myself but a

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<v Speaker 6>number of people that have been in that building through

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<v Speaker 6>the years.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, so you're in New England for nearly twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a rising star, and I tak for the last

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<v Speaker 1>ten of those twenty your names. Your name would come

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<v Speaker 1>up every year for the GM candidacy at some team

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<v Speaker 1>and it was always all right, there's this Candidcate and

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<v Speaker 1>then Nick Casara, we he'll never leave New England or

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<v Speaker 1>is this going to be the time he finally does

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<v Speaker 1>leave New England. You took the Houston job, you went

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<v Speaker 1>for it. What was so compelling and what was so

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<v Speaker 1>appealing to that Houston job that you finally left the

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<v Speaker 1>Foxborough I'd say friendly confines of where you were comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and where you'd raised a family and your daughter's got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school in the same school, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>you want in a career you left.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally you took the leap. Why Houston.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think you know, our family has been very blessed.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean what this league is done for us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>we certainly can't repay the people that will provide the opportunities.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think we all you don't want to check

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<v Speaker 6>challenge ourselves, and you know, sometimes you need to make

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<v Speaker 6>decisions that you know, quite frankly, you know, puts you

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<v Speaker 6>maybe out of your comfort zone. Because anytime you take

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<v Speaker 6>on a new situation of going to something new, there's

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<v Speaker 6>typically a reason that they're sort of starting over because

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<v Speaker 6>things aren't going all that well. But you know, there

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<v Speaker 6>had been some opportunities at different points. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Houston was a team that you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>mister McNair was here.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they had expressed some interests.

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<v Speaker 6>Or some sentiments, and you know, when Billy was here

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<v Speaker 6>for a period of time, I mean, you know, there

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<v Speaker 6>was some things, some dalliances through the years, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think as we kind of got to the end, it

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<v Speaker 6>was an opportunity that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we thought might be a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>To build something here, you know, from the ground up

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<v Speaker 6>after twenty some odd years. So I think more than anything,

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<v Speaker 6>more but curiosity and the challenge in front of us.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, i'd say the reputation ownership that they

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<v Speaker 6>had in terms of providing people with the opportunity, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they deserve so anyway, so you know, we out here

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty one, you know, candidly, I mean the

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<v Speaker 6>first couple of years probably didn't go the way that

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<v Speaker 6>any of us would have hoped. But I think the

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<v Speaker 6>one thing that you you do, you hope you just

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<v Speaker 6>learn along the way and you just got to make

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<v Speaker 6>it work. You got to figure it out. So just

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<v Speaker 6>take it one day at a time. Just be disciplined,

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<v Speaker 6>just be consistent, you know, try to make good decisions.

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<v Speaker 6>If it's not going the way that you either wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to or hope to, you know, do something to get

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<v Speaker 6>it fixed. So, you know, it's a team that had

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<v Speaker 6>had some success at different points. You know, i'd say

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<v Speaker 6>be remiss. I mean, look, th realit. We've faced a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of challenges here, you know, the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think we've worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like there's a light now, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I don't want to say it was so

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<v Speaker 1>dark because in the moment you don't look at it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But through the Watson stuff, through the Watson trade,

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<v Speaker 1>through those different coaching stats, and now it's like people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about the Texans in there, this fun, young,

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<v Speaker 1>energetic team, and of course you would have loved that

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<v Speaker 1>from go, but it's almost like you had to walk

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<v Speaker 1>through the mud to get to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it feel that way?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think the reality is, Peter, things are never

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<v Speaker 6>as bad or good as you think they are or

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<v Speaker 6>people make them out to be. So I'd say everybody

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<v Speaker 6>has challenges that they face on a day to day basis.

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<v Speaker 6>Every program is going to have to deal with something.

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<v Speaker 6>I think what we have to do is just try

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<v Speaker 6>to fix problems and find solutions, and sometimes it takes

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<v Speaker 6>a few steps back in order to go forward. I

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<v Speaker 6>think there's a lot of people that invested a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of time into this building, through a lot of good people,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and I think the players have remained committed

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<v Speaker 6>through sort of the ups and downs. You know, when

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<v Speaker 6>you bring Demico into the building with the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>his mindset, his attitudes infectious, and it's about the players.

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<v Speaker 6>So continue, hopefully, we continue to add good players into

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<v Speaker 6>the building with the right thought process, with the right mindset,

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<v Speaker 6>that are committed to winning, that put the team, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>above themselves, because in the end, that's what it takes,

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<v Speaker 6>is reading a quote or you know, after you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the Rangers won the World Series. You know, Boach made

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<v Speaker 6>a comment, you know, just about like the selflessness of

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<v Speaker 6>his team that they don't care about like who gets

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<v Speaker 6>the credit. They care about each each other and it's

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<v Speaker 6>not about you know, who did what. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when you have multiple people and multiple players that have

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<v Speaker 6>that mindset and you overlay allow over they overlay that

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<v Speaker 6>with a competitive nature, you're going to give yourself a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, your reality is this league is so damn competitive.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Margins are very small, and it's designed for everybody to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of be in the middle. It's kind of where

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<v Speaker 6>we are now, and there's some outliers on both sides.

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<v Speaker 6>So you just want to put yourself in a position

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<v Speaker 6>where you give yourself a chance. I mean, what going

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<v Speaker 6>into last week, was it seventy five percent or eighty

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<v Speaker 6>percent of the games in week seven or eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Or one score games in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that speaks to the competitive nature of

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<v Speaker 6>our league for the amount of i'd say good good coaches,

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<v Speaker 6>good players, and so you're either going to rise to

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<v Speaker 6>the challenge and embrace that or you're going to cower

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<v Speaker 6>and walk away. So again, regardless of how bad or

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<v Speaker 6>good people think it's going or it looks on the surface,

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<v Speaker 6>you got to find the silver lining somewhere and you

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<v Speaker 6>just got to find solutions and just keep people moving

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<v Speaker 6>in the right direction. Understanding that you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 6>accomplish anything by yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to take a team effort.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you can just get as many people with

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<v Speaker 6>that mindset, and quite frankly, I kind of view my

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<v Speaker 6>role as just to kind of be a facilitator. Sure,

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<v Speaker 6>sort of get out of the way, just sort of

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<v Speaker 6>get everything on the right track, empower the people that

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<v Speaker 6>are here that you believe in, that you trust, and

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<v Speaker 6>give them the opportunity to do their job. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>hopefully I've been a good steward in that respect. And

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<v Speaker 6>certainly we don't have everything figured out, and we have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of work in front of us, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>always exciting when you can see the fruits of your

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<v Speaker 6>labor at least start to come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>My last question, and we're going to let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You've already given us more than enough time. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>loving this. I could do this for three hours with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to the combine and you get in an

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<v Speaker 1>elevator and there's a kid there with a tie on

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<v Speaker 1>and an ill fitting suit and he's got a resume

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<v Speaker 1>and a Manilla folder and he says, Hey, I what

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<v Speaker 1>would be your thirty seconds of advice for getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the league and how to position yourself best for you

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<v Speaker 1>needy to someday be a general manager and NFL team.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would say, just be yourself, be true to

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<v Speaker 6>who you are, be authentic, and just do the work

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<v Speaker 6>because in the end, it's going to be about the work,

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<v Speaker 6>and try to learn and maintain as much curiosity along

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<v Speaker 6>the way. Understanding you're going to face some challenges is

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<v Speaker 6>not going to be easy, and wherever you start doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>really matter because really all of us were given an

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to start.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you're given an.

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<v Speaker 6>Opportunity, ultimately it's going to be about your performance, about

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<v Speaker 6>your mindset, about your intent on a day to day

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<v Speaker 6>basis so and in the end, it comes back to

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<v Speaker 6>the work.

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<v Speaker 5>So do the work.

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<v Speaker 6>Remain curious and take whatever opportunity comes before you because

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<v Speaker 6>you never know where that's going to lead. And no

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<v Speaker 6>job is too small. Don't think your first step is

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<v Speaker 6>the most important step. So just be willing to take

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<v Speaker 6>it and dive right in and jump in and understanding

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<v Speaker 6>that you know it.

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<v Speaker 5>Could lead you astray, but just keep working and don't

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<v Speaker 5>lose hope.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you really believe in what you want to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 6>you know there's a lot of people that are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be there to help you along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like to you know, bring it back to

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<v Speaker 2>my industry.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sports media, it's everyone wants to be on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to write for the New York Times, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be calling games. But you just said something,

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<v Speaker 1>No job is too small, Like the jobs that I

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<v Speaker 1>had in my twenties. If I don't do those, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tucking blogging for websites that don't exist, and writing for

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<v Speaker 1>free newspapers in New York City, then we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point we're at now where we're doing the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Nick and our worlds are similar and

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<v Speaker 1>parallel that like, yeah, everyone thinks they can do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta wait your time, and you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to put the work in.

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<v Speaker 6>You need to have patience, you need to have the

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<v Speaker 6>right attitude, you have to have the right mindset, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, quite frankly, like you have to put the

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<v Speaker 6>ego aside. Just because you work in the NFL, just

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<v Speaker 6>because you work in the TV industry, quite frankly, it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't really mean anything.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why I guarantees us is the next day.

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<v Speaker 6>And again it's about opportunity and it goes back and look,

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<v Speaker 6>you guys, you know, you guys have a great show

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<v Speaker 6>because you put the work in and it takes a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of work behind the scenes, and candidly, not everybody

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<v Speaker 6>is cut out for that, but you've put the time in,

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<v Speaker 6>You've put yourself in a position, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a credit to your mindset because again, none of us

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<v Speaker 6>were given anything in life, period.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's about what we do with those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 6>And reality is there's a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 6>helping us along the way, and those are the people

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<v Speaker 6>that we need to lean on. The most and tell

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<v Speaker 6>them how much we care about them and tell them

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<v Speaker 6>how much we love them. So a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 6>for you know what you've done and what you guys

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<v Speaker 6>have accomplished. I mean, you know, all seriousness. You've got

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<v Speaker 6>one of the great shows on television because of the

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<v Speaker 6>people and because of the work. And it's no different

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<v Speaker 6>than any end. It's about the people and it's about

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<v Speaker 6>the work, and that's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my feelings about you as a man, and

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<v Speaker 1>I respect you as what you're doing in Houston. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the bedrock is there now and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are building something and I'm excited to watch it. Last

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<v Speaker 1>night's game, yesday's game was exciting, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a window and what could be

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<v Speaker 1>the future for the Houston Texans, all those young players

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<v Speaker 1>and just to throw some more on it, like Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz making plays and Nico Collins making plays and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>seeing guys like Shaquille.

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<v Speaker 2>Griffin, like these are not just rookies.

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<v Speaker 5>You have some.

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<v Speaker 1>Veteran acquisitions that are making plays too. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>the makeup with the team and Nick, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you coming on during the season.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do this again in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're going to go through your career

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<v Speaker 1>more but an hour of your time after the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>Texans win in probably two years.

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<v Speaker 2>I so appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, Thank you, you best for Peter, Thank you, and

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<v Speaker 6>keep j mack in line.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick, mccordy, real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your scouting report on mccorty, because you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>draft him out of ten out of Rutgers, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did eventually sign him as a free agent.

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<v Speaker 6>Love j Mack, him and Devin. I mean, you're not

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<v Speaker 6>gonna find too better. I'll give you a quick story

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<v Speaker 6>on James. Actually, so he got released. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>say Cleveland. It was Cleveland. I think he was in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 6>They released him. It was in May or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 6>And before he was released, I walked into Bill's office

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<v Speaker 6>and said, hey, what do you think Mac? And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he said, hey, all right, let's look at it's take

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<v Speaker 6>a look at it. So we ended up trading for

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<v Speaker 6>him before he was released, just to get him in

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<v Speaker 6>the building. And I would say everything that you all

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<v Speaker 6>are seeing. I mean, you're to talk about salt of

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<v Speaker 6>the earth and just a great human being. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>him and them actor like it's just you don't find

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<v Speaker 6>people like that. So we were excited and ecstatic to

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<v Speaker 6>get Jason in the building because I mean, he'd been

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<v Speaker 6>a good player at Tennessee. You know, in Cleveland, he

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<v Speaker 6>had some injuries, didn't work out, but he helped our

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<v Speaker 6>team immensely, and he you know, he you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>went through some tough times. I mean, there's another talk

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<v Speaker 6>about somebody that went through some tough time. Yeah, went

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<v Speaker 6>through some tough times at Tennessee. And then we were

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<v Speaker 6>fortunate to get him in New England and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>end up going to the super Bowl, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>to have him and Devin celebrate together, you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>was a pretty special moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He might make the biggest play in this super bill.

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<v Speaker 1>He knocks the pass from Brandon Cooks and he darts

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<v Speaker 1>off his man to go make it. I've been honored

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<v Speaker 1>and blessed to be his teammate now for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so proud of him yesterday. Who's calling

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And you know, I don't search social media

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<v Speaker 1>for my own, but I just typed it his and

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<v Speaker 1>it was universal praise.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, just like, that's my guy who he

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<v Speaker 2>des it was great. All right, Nick Seria, this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Go do your thing and you got a game against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. We're on to Cincinnati. Is such a familiar refrain.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck, my truth.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for delivering results presented by Uber Eats. Each

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<v Speaker 1>week we give out an award for who delivered results.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go one might not be an obvious one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with the Cleveland Browns defense. Another shutout,

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<v Speaker 1>another win, twenty seven to nothing, complete destruction of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals, held the Cardinals under seventy yards of offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Schwartz is the man in front, But of course

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<v Speaker 1>you've got guys like Miles, Garrett and Emerson and Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>This team is legit. They If the playoffs were to

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<v Speaker 1>start today, the Cleveland Browns would be in. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what their defense is leading the way. That was

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron, always a pleasure with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason English, our friend from the iHeart Team is not here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we will have to give him crap for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to everybody out west and Arizona football continues

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<v Speaker 1>to win. That is the official team of the season

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<v Speaker 1>with Peter Scheger. We had Jedfish on August fourteenth. They

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<v Speaker 1>have been one of the best surprises of college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Schneider, Jason Kleinman, our executives out on the LA

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. They are Arizona football fans and Arizona alums.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they listen to this podcast. Another win, another

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<v Speaker 1>victory for Jedfish. Bear down, and then for all the

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