1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. 11 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: This is Strange JOSHUAE Warren. I am JOSHUAAPE Warren, and 12 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: each week on this show, I'll be bringing a brand 13 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you 14 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: can do at home, and a lot more. On this 15 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: edition of the show, Faces of Death and Mondo Kane 16 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: plus Bigfoot Solved. And don't worry if you don't know 17 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: what Mondo Kane is, I'm going to explain. By the way, 18 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: that's Italian. I don't speak Italian, so hopefully I'm saying 19 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: that correctly. If I did speak Italian, I'd probably sound 20 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: like Jared Leto in the House of Gucci. But I 21 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: am recording this show in January of the year twenty 22 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty six, So for me, I am sort of envisioning 23 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: this whole brand new year laid out before me, and 24 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I therefore have some topics that I think kind of 25 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: apply to the zeitgeist, the state the world is in 26 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: right now, as well as just general outlook that we 27 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: all can sort of relate to whenever we reach these 28 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: new chapters where we're trying to look at the future 29 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: and figure out how things will play out for us, 30 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: how to improve our lives, how to make the world 31 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: a better place. But before I get into how this 32 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: sort of ties together in my mind, there is a 33 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: story I have to tell you. This is something I 34 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: think about every January, and I'm sure I've told this 35 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: story at some point over the years, but it's good 36 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: enough it's worth telling again because when people ask me 37 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: why that I believe in ghosts, this is one of 38 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: the reasons. This is one of the experience seriences that 39 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: sort of made my jaw drop. You may or may 40 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: not know that for many years I owned a museum 41 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: in my hometown of Asheville, North Carolina. It eventually became 42 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: known as the Ashville Mystery Museum. Had all kinds of 43 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: local historic artifacts and things from my adventures and investigations. Sadly, 44 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the museum is no longer around because its last destination 45 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: was the basement of the Ashville Masonic Temple and there 46 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: was a big flood. You know, Ashville gets some serious 47 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: flooding sometimes and that basement always had a problem with flooding, 48 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: and so there was a flood. I think it was 49 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: around twenty twenty, and there was so much damage that 50 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: we just had to kind of remove everything from the 51 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: whole basement and clean it. And then of course the 52 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: pandemic was kicking in, and just there was a storm 53 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: of things that happened, and so most of the objects 54 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: went into storage where they are right now. Some of 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the objects were shipped out here to Las Vegas where 56 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I now live, to be in my collection. As a 57 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: matter of fact, sometime this year, I am probably going 58 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: to start selling some of the amazing items that I've 59 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: had in storage all these years from the Asheville Mystery Museum, 60 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: and many of them are absolutely one of the kind. 61 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: So if you want to know about that and get 62 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: first DIBs when some of that's available. Be sure you 63 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: sign up from my free e newsletter at Joshua Pwarren 64 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: dot com just right there on the homepage. There's no 65 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: period when you type in Joshua Pee Warren dot com 66 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: and takes you two seconds to fill that out. Well, anyway, 67 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: here's the story. The first major location for the museum 68 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: was this old rock jailhouse sort of built into the 69 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: side of the embankment in front of the Ashville City 70 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: Building and the Buncom County Building City County Plaza. Small, little, 71 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how big it was, but it was 72 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: a pretty basic square rock building. Again, it was literally 73 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: a part of the embankment. I think it was kind 74 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: of holding the embankment up there. And right across the 75 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: street was where they have the old gallows at one 76 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: point where they would execute people and prisoners would sit 77 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: there in jail at night and they would hear the 78 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: executions happening outside. It was a very haunted building it is. 79 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: It sits right behind what is currently a restaurant called 80 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Pack's Tavern, And as last I heard, that building is 81 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: that little building that jail is just being used for storage. 82 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Or something. I don't know, But one year I actually 83 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: got snowed in there, and all by myself. I had 84 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: tried to leave on another occasion when that happened, and 85 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: my car ended up in a ditch, and so I 86 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: waited too late, and I got snowed in, and so 87 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: I was not prepared. So here I was lying on 88 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the floor. I'd made myself like a little pillow out 89 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: of some just jackets and shirts and stuff. And I 90 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: have this big, heavy wool trench coat that I've worn 91 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: for years, and that was my cover. And I mean, 92 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: this thing is I don't know, there's no telling how 93 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: many pounds this trench coat is. So here I was 94 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: laying on the floor by myself. The whole city was desolate, 95 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: because you know, snow is everywhere. Everything's closed. It was 96 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: cold in there, and in the middle of the night, 97 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: something jerked this big, heavy wool coat right off of 98 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: my body and I bolted up, and it was freaky. 99 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: It was freaky. I have never been able to explain that, 100 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and I have I don't think I slept very well 101 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: the rest of that night, and I made sure I 102 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: never got snowed in there again. But the story I 103 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: really want to tell you is that on January twenty 104 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: third of the year twenty eleven, I was at home 105 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and I got a call from the lady who worked 106 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: for me at the museum. Her name was Cat, and yes, 107 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Cat was very proficient when it came to the knowledge 108 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: of metaphysics and the paranormal. But she wasn't the kind 109 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: of person who just goes around making up wild stories. 110 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: She didn't have that kind of imagination. She was a 111 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: very logical person in that sense. And so she called 112 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: me up on January twenty third of twenty eleven, and 113 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: she was freaking out, and she said, Josh, I had 114 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: to leave a little early. Something happened to me. She 115 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: had been there at the museum all by herself. And now, 116 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: of course we would the winter is always very slow, 117 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: so usually, like in January, you might have people just 118 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of wander in and out. We would open up 119 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the museum and I don't know, kind of like maybe 120 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: ten am and keep it open to like five or six, 121 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly, and we'd always have at least 122 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: one person who would sit there and kind of attend 123 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: the museum. Of course, the museum was free. As a 124 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: matter of fact, anybody could come in there, walk around 125 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Sea Air collection. We had a nice little movie theater 126 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: in there was a cool little spot. And she said 127 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: that at one point she was going back to the 128 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: bathroom and she turned a corner and she was stunned 129 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: to walk right into a large, dark figure, clearly some 130 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: type of a man. And at first, I mean, it 131 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: shocked her because she thought she that somebody had been 132 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: in there that she didn't know about, and she just 133 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: ran right into this person. And she, of course she 134 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: jumps back with a bolt of fear, and this dark 135 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: figure has now vanished, But it was such a tangible 136 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: thing for her running into to that phantom, if you 137 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: will that, I mean, it really freaked her out. So 138 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: I said, well, we're definitely gonna have to go investigate 139 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: that spot more. And I guess it was less than 140 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: an hour later I got a call from my friend, 141 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: local historian Vance Pollock, and Vance knew absolutely nothing about 142 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: what had happened to Kat a little earlier that day, 143 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and Vance said, Josh, listen to this. I just discovered 144 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: an old newspaper article. He said that during the time 145 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: when the jail was in use, at one point the 146 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: sheriff was named John Liarly, and as a matter of fact, 147 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: the liary had been in local law enforcement for a 148 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: long time in the early nineteen hundreds, and even Thomas 149 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Wolfe wrote some about him, and by all accounts, Lyarley 150 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: was not a very nice guy. I won't get into 151 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: all the details, but basically Vance found out that John 152 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: Lyarley had committed suicide in that building, that there was 153 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: one point where it had sort of like a little 154 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: garage area where he could pull his car in there, 155 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: and apparently he had his car was somewhere in this 156 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: little area and he steps out of his car, uses 157 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: his service revolver, shoots himself in the head and kills himself. 158 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: And Vance said, today is the eighty seventh anniversary of 159 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: when John Lyley did this. I said, what, Yeah, it 160 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: was January twenty third of nineteen twenty four when John Lyley, 161 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: Sheriff Lyarley shot himself killed himself. They're in that building, 162 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: and you tell me, you tell me what are the chances, 163 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: what are the chances that KAT would have that encounter? 164 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: And then less than an hour later, Vance, who knew 165 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: nothing about the situation, would tell me, oh, yeah, that 166 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: was the anniversary. You know what the next January twenty 167 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: third and twenty fourth, I went there and I investigated, 168 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and he didn't come back again those times. But if 169 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: you have access to that building, you might want to 170 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: keep an eye out around those dates. That kind of 171 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: stuff is way too much for coincidence. It makes me 172 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: believe in the reality of whatever a ghost is, or 173 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: an imprint, some kind of anniversary spirit that reappears. Anyway. 174 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: We're up on a break. When we come back, I'm 175 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: going to get into this thing about faces of death, 176 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get the year off to 177 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: a somber start here, but it's not really somber. It's 178 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: actually inspirational. But we have to explore, you know, the 179 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: whole spectrum of things, and then yeah, we're gonna get 180 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: into some bigfoot stuff as well. Who knows what I'll 181 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: get around to. Like I say, if you want to 182 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, first, go to Joshua P. Warren 183 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: dot com. Sign up for my free and spam free 184 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: e newsletter on the homepage. Takes you two seconds. When 185 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: you do that, you will instantly receive an automated email 186 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: from me with links to some free online goodies and 187 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: check out the Curiosity Shop while you're there as well. 188 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff is sold out. Of course. I'm 189 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the 190 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM parnormal podcast Network, and 191 00:12:51,080 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: I will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things 192 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal 193 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 194 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your worm whole brain from 195 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: my studio in Sensity, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day 196 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: is golden and every night of silver. Zietto zoom. Despite 197 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the fact that I am a big film buff, I 198 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: usually am very good at film trivia. I I just 199 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: recently started hearing this term Mondo Kane, and I didn't 200 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: know what it meant. A genre of films, as it 201 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: turns out, but it starts with one movie that was 202 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: released in nineteen sixty two by some Italian filmmakers, and 203 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: they marketed this as a documentary. Mondo Kane means Dog's 204 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: World or dog World, which is apparently they say it's 205 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: a coarse Italian expletive. I don't understand, because we don't 206 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: understand exactly what that means. I guess it's something like 207 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: saying that, well, the world is an absurd place and 208 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: there is a lot of, you know, like unsavory stuff 209 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: that goes on. And I say that because here's what 210 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: made this documentary so unique. These guys decided that they 211 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: and I'm going to describe this first of my own words, 212 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: because I recently watched this movie Mondo Kane. It's about 213 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: it's long, it's almost two hours. I mean, it's a feature. 214 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: They essentially took documentary type film footage from all around 215 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: the world, and they wanted to show things that were 216 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: shocking in some way, especially to a Western film audience, 217 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: and they essentially took some authentic documentary footage and presented it, 218 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: or in other cases, they would take things that were 219 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: real but exaggerate them or slant them very heavily, or 220 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: in some cases they just outright makeup stuff and pass 221 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: it off as documentary footage. And they put this all 222 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: together into this big, sort of rambling film that has 223 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: vignettes around the world and again presented as a legit documentary, 224 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: and it shows sort of people engaged in bizarre and 225 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: off and outrageous things. So, for example, they might be like, 226 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: here's how some of the elite rich people in New 227 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: York City eat, and they would show them in a 228 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: fancy restaurant and the waars come out and they bring 229 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: them all worms and spiders and insects, and they're eating 230 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: all this gross stuff as if it's fine dining. And 231 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: then they'll be like, on the other hand, here's how 232 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: people eat in this other far away country, and they 233 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: show people, you know, doing all this like disgusting stuff 234 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: with animals, and then they'll be like, now here is 235 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: a rite of passage in this other culture where they 236 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: show like women from a tribe that are they supposedly 237 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: hunt down men, and whoever catches the man has, you know, 238 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: forces the man to mate with her. And it's just 239 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: like one thing. There's dozens and dozens of these vignettes presented. 240 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: They say, it's let me explain how it's technically, this 241 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: film is described, all right. The film consists of a 242 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: series of travelog scenes that provide glimpses in the cultural 243 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: practices around the world, with the intention to shock or 244 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: surprise Western audiences. The scenes are presented with little continuity 245 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: as they are intended as a kaleidoscopic display of shocking 246 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: content rather than presenting a structured argument. Despite its claims 247 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: of genuine documentation, certain scenes are either staged or creatively 248 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: manipulated to enhance this effect. And this movie was a 249 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: huge success internationally. It made tons, tons of money at 250 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: the box office, despite in some cases it was banned. 251 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it was even nominated for 252 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: the prestigious Palm d'Or at can Film Festival, and that's 253 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: the highest prize awarded at the can Film Festival. Palm 254 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: door means golden palm, and it has a golden palm 255 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: leaf on it, I guess because they have palm trees 256 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: around there. So this movie was a huge hit. And 257 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: at that time, in nineteen sixty two, the public was 258 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: not nearly as discerning as we are now about, you know, 259 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: figuring out fact versus fiction. And most people watch this 260 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: documentary and they took it as a literal documentary and 261 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: they believed everything they saw was being presented in an 262 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: unbiased way, just as they saw it in the movie. 263 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: And of course, this movie in retrospect now is as 264 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: criticized as promoting a lot of you know, like divisive topics, 265 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: making out people who live in foreign countries to look 266 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: like savages, and you know, just exploiting people's cultures in 267 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a certain way only to create this shocking sort of effect. 268 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: But most people at that time in the world, they 269 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: believed what they were seeing was a scholarly sort of presentation. 270 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: And then it was very well done, very well put together, 271 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: and I you know, there are some things you might 272 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: find disturbing if you watch it, but that's the point. 273 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: That's the point. Well, nobody'd ever made a movie quite 274 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: like that, like Mondo Kane, and it was so successful 275 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: that immediately all these other people came in and started 276 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: becoming copycats. For one thing they started, of course, they 277 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: made sequels to Mondo Kane. But then, yeah, lots of 278 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: other movies came in. And I'm not going to try 279 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: to go down a list. You can look into this 280 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: yourself if you're interested. But people started creating these things 281 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: that are not quite mockumentaries, but they're just documentaries that 282 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: are very selectively you know, designed, shot and edited in 283 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: order to create this kind of gritty, uncomfortable feeling and 284 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: in some cases outright you know, sometimes in some of 285 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: these movies things are just very violent and gruesome. And 286 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: I tell tell you this because they say that this 287 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: all culminated in a movie that made a significant impact 288 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: on me when I was growing up. And I bet 289 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: you've seen this movie or at least heard of it. 290 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: It was all It was a movie that came out 291 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight called Faces of Death. And this 292 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: is considered by film historians a mondo horror film because 293 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: if you've never seen Faces of Death, it's the same 294 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: type of thing where they go in and they show 295 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: different ways in which people die all over the world 296 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: and explore everything related to it, including after life encounters, 297 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: and present it in such a documentary style that lots 298 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: and lots of people, especially kids, when they saw this 299 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, believed that it was a real documentary. Like, 300 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: for example, there's a scene where there's a guy who 301 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: is filmed being electrocuted in an electric chair. It's very 302 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: memorable because it's very graphic. And you know, my wife Lauren, 303 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: she told me just the other day that she was 304 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: surprised when I told her that that was not a 305 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: real scene. She thought that was a real scene. When 306 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: she's no, she's basical on seeing it at a younger age, 307 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: but I was like, no, they totally made that scene up. 308 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: It was just a re reenactment, but they don't present 309 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: it that way. And Faces of Death was so successful. 310 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: It was made for sixty seven thousand dollars and the 311 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: official box office is thirty five million dollars, but I'm 312 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: sure it made a lot more than that. It's definitely 313 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the most profitable movies ever made. And again 314 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: this inspired people to start trying to copy that, and 315 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: they made many of these Faces of Death movies. And now, 316 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: as an adult who has seen tons of films, I 317 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: can go back and I could watch Mondo Kane and 318 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Faces of Death, and I can say like, well, this 319 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: is obviously not a legit, like honestly presented documentary. It's 320 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes. But that is from me being a 321 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: guy here in the year twenty twenty six, and looking back. 322 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: It's easier to see it when you are you're looking 323 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: at it with the context of all of the special 324 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: effects that are possible. Blah blahah blah. Now you might 325 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: ask yourself, now, this is a very interesting, interesting topic 326 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: just as a trivial thing, but you might ask well, 327 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: why am I telling you that. I'm telling you this 328 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: because I believe that this concept now is really becoming 329 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: a formidable, a formidable force with new AI technology that AI. 330 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: And trust me, I use AI all the time, so 331 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with it as not as amazing and 332 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: impressive right now as you may think it is, or 333 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: as you're being told, But let me tell you, it's 334 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: getting there and it will happen. And I think this 335 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: year is going to be an especially big year because 336 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: of how quickly things are evolving. And now when you 337 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: get on the internet, the whole Internet, it seems almost 338 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: like it's a part of Mondo Khane culture because you 339 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: really just cannot look at anything and believe it at 340 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: face value. And this is especially frustrating for people in 341 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: my field who are out there trying to analyze paranormal imagery, 342 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, UFOs and ghosts. I mean, it's almost impossible now. 343 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: You certainly can't do it on a cursory, superficial level, 344 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: on a surface level. I mean you've got to dig 345 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: much much deeper, and you've got to know sources, and 346 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: you have to have details in metadata, and like you 347 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: really have to go the extra step, and so I 348 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting that I recently learned sort 349 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: of about how this sort of thing happened in the 350 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: world of filmmaking in the nineteen sixties, and now we're 351 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: seeing this taken to sort of the ultimate level in 352 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: my mind, where AI is taking little bits and pieces 353 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: of truth and warping it. And this is mind control 354 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: in the real world, and you have to be concerned 355 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: about that. When we come back for this break, I said, 356 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I had some Bigfoot stuff to talk about, and this 357 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: is an example of how the world changes and how 358 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: over time people start thinking about things a little bit differently. 359 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: And I got to say I believe I was ahead 360 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: of the curve on this one. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. 361 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 362 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 363 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things 364 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: all the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am 365 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Parahnormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua Pee Warren, and 366 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. You know, 367 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: if you are if you're a thoughtful person, then there's 368 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: no way that you can't be bothered to some degree 369 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: by the idea that if you do, let's say, hypothetically, 370 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: if you do everything that you're supposed to do in 371 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: life perfectly, that I mean, like, let's you don't cuss, 372 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: you don't think bad things about people, you don't drink, 373 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you don't smoke, you don't take drugs, You're hard working, 374 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: you're charitable, you you do everything your doctor tells you 375 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: to do. You eat right, you X size what you 376 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: make straight a's in life, You're still gonna die. Now. Look, 377 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be depressing. I just know that 378 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: you're not alone if you think about that sometimes, and I, 379 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: of course I believe that we continue on and we 380 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: have other lives. Do we remember our past lives? Probably not. 381 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: What's the point. At some point I may do a 382 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: story on reincarnation. I kind of avoided that so far 383 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: because that most of those stories are just anecdotal, and 384 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: all I can do is just read you what other 385 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: people have supposedly said. I how do I know, but 386 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: you know estimate how many people have lived and died. 387 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: So but there's nothing you can do. The point is 388 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: just you have to enjoy this little window that you 389 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: have here and see how many positive things you can 390 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: do each day, and you know, stop with being overly 391 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: logical about things and trying to criticize everything. Also, I mean, 392 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: think right now of who you hate and just stop it. 393 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: Just stop it right now. What good is it doing? 394 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: And you know, it seems like the more we learn 395 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: about how the Internet is a model for reality, the 396 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: more that we start to see it's true that this 397 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: thing that we call reality is sort of a program. 398 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: It's a software program, and you, to a certain extent, 399 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: are able to program it and to change it and 400 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: to make your experience better for yourself and others. And 401 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's one That's why I'm always talking about 402 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the positive spin on this, trying to manifest the best 403 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: experience you can have, and whether you use tools to 404 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: do it or you use certain meditations, there are different things. 405 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: You know. 406 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: I have a hard time with it, so tools help 407 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: me a lot. That's why I talk about, you know, 408 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the tools that I use, things that I create. But 409 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: and you know, here living in Vegas, I I honestly, 410 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to brag, but anybody who knows me 411 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: knows that I win way more jackpots than I should statistically. 412 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: I was, there's a small I go, well, there's a 413 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: there's a chain of small casinos strewn around Las Vegas 414 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: called Dotties and uh, and there's not much to it. 415 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Small room. You go in there, they give you a drink, 416 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: there's some machines at the bar. They might give you 417 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: a piece of pizza. I don't know, because I just 418 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: basically never go to Dotti's for some reason. It's just 419 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: it's not I usually I'd rather go to a larger place. 420 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, my wife Lauren was grocery shopping the other 421 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: day and I didn't feel like grocery shopping. And I 422 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: think that most of the time she doesn't even want 423 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: me shopping with her because if she feels pressure, because 424 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: I just want to get in and out of there. 425 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: And there was a Dotties next to the grocery store. 426 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to go over here and gamble 427 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: with the Dotties on meet you when you're done. Let's 428 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: see if I can pay for groceries. So I go 429 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: over there. I sit down at Dottie's and sure enough, 430 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I was there for like thirty minutes. 431 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: I was stretching. My time I hit a jackpot, the 432 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: woman comes over who works there, and she said, let's 433 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: see your player's card, and I said, I don't have one. 434 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: She said, what, you don't have a player's card. I 435 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: said no, and she goes, you don't have a player's card? 436 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: I said no, I never come to Dotties. She says, 437 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: I've worked here for twelve years, and you're the first 438 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: person I've ever seen who's hit a jackpot without a 439 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: player's card. Having a player's card kind of implies that 440 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: you're there a lot. And so anyway, look, I believe 441 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: that there are things that you should you can program, 442 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: certain things that happen with your mind. And let's say 443 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: you have reached a point where you're I'd say your 444 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: middle age, like me, Okay, next year, I'll be uh 445 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: is it this year? Good lord? Yeah? This year? Yeah, 446 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna be fifty this year. Once you get to be 447 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: middle aged, then you might think to yourself, Look, if 448 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: I have not become a multi millionaire already, it's not 449 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I am. I'm not going to develop a 450 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: new talent. I'm not going to uh invent a better 451 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: mouse trap or a better light bulb, or you know, 452 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't have any rich ancestors who are gonna who 453 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: are gonna leave me. If you know, you might just 454 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: be like, that's not gonna happen. And then but then 455 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: you may have seen just recently the story about these 456 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: three brothers and their mother died. This is in northern California. 457 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: So they go to clean out her house. They're going 458 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: through the attic and they find a cardboard box which 459 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: with a bunch of old newspapers in it. And as 460 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: they go through the newspapers, they fined at the bottom 461 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: a Superman comic number one, nineteen thirty nine, Superman comic 462 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: number one, and they say, wow, this is probably worth 463 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: some money. The comic was purchased for just ten cents originally. 464 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: They took it and had it grated, and they said, 465 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: this is a nine out of ten. It's the highest 466 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: grade for any known copy of Superman number one. Well, 467 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: up until this point, the most money ever paid for 468 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: a comic book was six million dollars. Well, they just 469 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: auctioned this comic book off and it brought in nine 470 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: point one two million dollars, becoming the most expensive comic 471 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: ever sold. Don't ever lose hope, thanks mom. They said that, 472 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: you know it just the conditions it was in it 473 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: just it was just lucked out, you know, the environmental 474 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: conditions that preserve this thing. And who you just never know. 475 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: You know. Rom Das he has this story that I 476 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: write about and my book used the force you never know, 477 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: And it kind of goes like, well, you know, there 478 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: is a family that had a beautiful horse. I'm sure 479 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: this is probably like in the eighteen hundreds or something, 480 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: and the horse runs away, beautiful female horse, a mayor. 481 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: She runs away, and the neighbor goes, oh, that's terrible luck. 482 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: And I goes, well, you never know. The farmer says, 483 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: you never know. And then she comes back a couple 484 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: of days later. She has a magnificent stallion with her, 485 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: and the neighbor says to the farmer, that's a boy. 486 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: What good luck, And the farmers's way, you never know. 487 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: And then his son gets on the stallion and is 488 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: writing it and the sun gets bucked off and breaks 489 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: his leg, and the neighbor says, oh, what terrible luck, 490 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: and the farmer says, oh, you never know. But then 491 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: after that there was a war broke out and they 492 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: were coming through consigning young men to go into the military, 493 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: and it was a disaster. All the young men died. 494 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: But they didn't pick his son because his son had 495 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: a broken leg. And the neighbor says, Wow, you're so lucky, 496 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: and the farmer says, you never know. Hopefully I didn't 497 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: screw that up, but you get the idea. Don't ever 498 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: think that you're screwed. Well, look, when we start thinking 499 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: about this idea that the world is programmable, it is 500 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: a matrix. It's something that you can go on and 501 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: you can affect with your attitude and your mentality. And 502 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I think this definitely applies to some of these cryptids 503 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: and other weird beings that are found. And I have 504 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: said for years and years, going way way way back, 505 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: that I believe that the only way we can believe 506 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: that Bigfoot is real is if Bigfoot is some kind 507 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: of an interdimensional or alien or phantasmal type paranormal being. 508 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: And I say that because so many people say that 509 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: they see Bigfoot that I believe those people are telling 510 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: the truth. I don't think they're crazy. I don't think 511 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: they're hallucinating. I don't think they're imaginating imagining things. But 512 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: there is so I mean, the hair and the scat 513 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: would be so rampant if there were any even a 514 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: small population of Bigfoot, There'd be so much more hair 515 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: on trees, there'd be so much more scat, so much 516 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: more of an impact on the ecology, that it would 517 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: be easy to have evidence that if Bigfoot is just 518 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: a big, normal biological creature, a big ape out there 519 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: in the forest, it would be easy, especially this day 520 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: and age, to prove that. But we don't have any 521 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: conclusive proof of any of that stuff, in my opinion, 522 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: And so the tide has been turning. The tide has 523 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: been turning saying, well, more and more people are coming 524 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: forth saying that actually Bigfoot does things that apes, normal 525 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: apes don't do. Bigfoot is seen sometimes literally appearing in 526 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: an orb of light and disappearing in an orbit of light, 527 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: or shooting off into the sky and vanishing. And you 528 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: have these footprints from credible people, you know, they're trackers, 529 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: they're following big Foot footprints, and the prints just end 530 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: mid trail, as if Bigfoot has just suddenly teleported away. 531 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: And recently David Politis, who's famous for his Missing four 532 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: one one series, he released a documentary that I recently 533 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed where he comes to the same conclusion. It's called 534 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: American sasquatch man, myth or monster. And I don't want 535 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: to put words in his mouth. And he's not the 536 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: first person to say this. I think he's saying, like 537 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: we've concluded, Bigfoot is more than just a big ape. 538 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: There's another movie I've talked about before called A Flash 539 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot, released in twenty twenty four, which 540 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: makes the same point. We're up on a break. When 541 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: we come back, I'm going to tell you about some 542 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: weird giants that you may not have heard about. I'm 543 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the 544 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and 545 00:37:40,760 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: I will be right back. Welcome back to the final 546 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: segment of this edition of Strange Things called the iHeartRadio 547 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast to HIM Paranormal Podcast Network. I 548 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua P. Warren, And yeah, I used 549 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys that traditional cryptozoologists disliked 550 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: because I would say I think this could be some 551 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of a paranormal manifestation and they go, oh, God, 552 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: here's the ghost guy going off with hisash. No, dude, 553 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: that's an ape. It's a giant, undiscovered ape running around 554 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: every year. But now the tide seems to have change, 555 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: the tight is turned. We're viewing reality as being more 556 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: and more of this sort of flexible thing and a 557 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: program that has portals and has wormholes and has different 558 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: ways of transforming one's consciousness and one's point in space 559 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: time and all that stuff that we can't comprehend, but 560 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: we're getting there. And so, like I say, go back 561 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: watch this documentary called A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot 562 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: or David Politis's new movie called American sasquatch Man myth 563 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: or Monster, and you'll see that. You know, some of 564 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: the top experts who study this day like, look, if 565 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: we're going to continue studying this, we have to switch 566 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: up methodology here, because looking for an ape running around 567 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: out there just ain't working anymore. You know, this is 568 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: something different that we're dealing with here. So I'm happy 569 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: to say that I'm feeling somewhat vindicated by this. I've 570 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: always been interested. I love the mythology around Bigfoot. You know, 571 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: nobody never knows what to get me for Christmas, and 572 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't blame them, so I bought my own Christmas 573 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: gifts this year. I got myself a new Fiji Mermaid, 574 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: Monkey's Paul, hand of Glory. These are I don't have 575 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: time to get into what each of these are, but 576 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: these are called gaffs. These are props that are made 577 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: for sideshows that are fun. I even have a yetti 578 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: gas that I created. This one of a kind. These 579 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: are not real, legitimate objects from undiscovered creatures, even though 580 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: it is kind of fun. At some point, I'll go 581 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: back and I think I'll dig into each one of 582 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: those topics and tell you more about like what what 583 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: is the story behind the Fiji Mermaid and the Monkey's 584 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: Paul and the hand of Glory. I'll get into that 585 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: in the future. But I also want to make this 586 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: very clear. There are stories out there about amazing giants 587 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: that were discovered, especially like the remains of them were 588 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: discovered in the eighteen hundreds, especially in the early nineteen 589 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: hundreds in this country that I think may actually be 590 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: possibly legit, and they're not the same as Bigfoot stories, 591 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: though Bigfoot is a particular type of thing which seems 592 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: to be like a paranormal entity. Again in my mind. 593 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: There are stories like well, here's one from Garysburg, North Carolina, 594 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: which is in the northeastern part of North Carolina, right 595 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: next to the Virginia border. Here's an article that came out. 596 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: It was in the New York Times September eighth of 597 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy one. They were talking about some railroad workers 598 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: who were in the area. They said, the workmen, and 599 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm reading this from the article, the workmen engaged in 600 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: operating Excuse me, the workmen engaged in opening away for 601 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: the projected railroad between Weldon and Garysburg. And they struck 602 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: on Monday, about one mile from Garysburg, in a bank 603 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: beside the river, a catacomb of skeletons supposed to be 604 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: those of Indians of a remote age and a lost 605 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: and forgotten race. The bodies exhumed were of a strange 606 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: and remarkable formation. The skulls were nearly an inch in thickness. 607 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: The teeth were filed sharp as are those of cannibals, 608 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: the enamel perfectly preserved. The bones were of wonderful length 609 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: and strength, the femur being as long as a leg 610 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: of an ordinary man. The stature of the body being 611 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: probably as great as eight or nine feet. Near their 612 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: heads were sharp stone arrows, stone mortars in which their 613 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: corn was brayed, and the bowls of pipes, apparently of soft, 614 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: pliable soapstone. The teeth of the skeleton are said to 615 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: be as large as those of horses. One of them 616 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: has been brought to the city and presented to the 617 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: officer of the Petersburg Railroad. The bodies were found closely 618 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: packed together, laid tier on tier, as it seemed, and 619 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: there was no discernible ingress into or egress out of 620 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: the mound. I was so struck by that article that 621 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: I drove to Garysburg, which is I don't know, I 622 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: forget how long it was. It was a long drive 623 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: from Ashville with my friend Casey Fox, and spent days 624 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: investigating the story best I could. And one thing that, 625 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: of course, I went through all the newspapers to see 626 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: if there was a follow up on that. So I 627 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: just looked it up. It's about a five hour drive. 628 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: I looked through all the newspapers and talked all the historians, 629 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: and nobody, could you know, give me any new information. 630 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: There was no follow up. But the thing that I 631 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: did find most intriguing was that there was a guy 632 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: in the area who his name was Stevens, who had 633 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: spit his basically his whole life scouring the swamps around 634 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: there and collecting fossils and artifacts. And he had put 635 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: together his collection into a little house, kind of like 636 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: a little museum, and when you go in there, you 637 00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: would see gigantic tools, you know, gigantic axe heads and 638 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: mallets and things like that. I can't even remember all 639 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: the things that we're in there. I took a lot 640 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: of pictures. I assume those pictures are on discs in 641 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: one of my storage units that I'm going to be 642 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: visiting and cleaning out this year if all goes according 643 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: to plant, so maybe I'll be able to find those now. 644 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: I know there were a lot of sensational journalists back 645 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: then who would write up stories like that just to 646 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: sell papers. But I see this kind of thing repeated 647 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: over and over again throughout our country. I mean, one 648 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: of the best examples of that is here in Nevada, 649 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: or Nevada. See, I've lived here for about ten years, 650 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: and I still screw up sometimes and call it Nevada. 651 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: It's Nevada at Lovelock Cave. So Lovelock Cave is it's 652 00:45:54,280 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere, quite far from Lost Vegas. 653 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: Let's see how far is Lovelock Cave from Las Vegas. Uh, 654 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: so far that I've started to go out there a 655 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: number of times and be like, nah, I'm not gonna 656 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: do okay, So seven and a half to eight hours, 657 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: depending on how you go, and some in some cases 658 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: up to nine in the middle of nowhere up to 659 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: nine hours. But it's there's the cave there, and there 660 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: are very credible reports about at some point, you know, 661 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: maybe the eighteen hundreds, some giants like the ones I've 662 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: been describing that were cannibals that lived around there and 663 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: that were eating all the local Native Americans. And they 664 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 1: would go out and they would dig a big hole, 665 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: and they would put sharp sticks and stuff down at 666 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: what we call it like a dead fall trap. And 667 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: then somebody would, you know, fall into that trap, a human, 668 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: and these the these giants would pick them up and 669 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: take them off and eat them. And this got so 670 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: bad that finally a war broke out between the Native 671 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Americans and these giants, and they they got all the 672 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: giants holed up in their cave and they filled the 673 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: cave with brush and set it on fire and supposedly 674 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: kill them all. And for a long time there were 675 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: remains of these giants that were put on display, until 676 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 1: finally they were buried because somebody said, well, these are 677 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: probably Native American remains. I don't know, but scientists have 678 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: gone there to that cave and they still find to 679 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: this day that there is clear evidence of a major 680 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: fire in there, and this is not something that was 681 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: considered mythology. So in fact, there was even a lady 682 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: who wore a garment that had some of the red 683 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: hair of the giants, but that garment, she was a 684 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: Native American who'd go around and talk about this, but 685 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: after she died and not as usual, nobody can figure 686 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: out what happened to it. I think some of those 687 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: stories might be stories about like legit, a legit species 688 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: of human that lived here at one time, maybe even 689 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: a spin off of the Mayans. The Mayans, they it's 690 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: a whole other show. But I mean the Mayans I 691 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: think explored much much, much, much more extensively than we 692 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: are told, and I have evidence for why I believe that. 693 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they traveled all over parts of North America 694 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: and spawned some of these crazy stories. Well, I have 695 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: lots more to talk about, but once again I'm out 696 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: of time, and that's what the next show is for. 697 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: So let's end the show on a positive note. Here 698 00:48:45,760 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: it is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this 699 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: edition of the show. Follow me at Joshua P. 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