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Speaker 1: You had once had an issue with Joe Budden because

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Speaker 1: fact that we sit here, you directed Cardi B's music

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Speaker 1: video for the upcoming I think the song will upcoming

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Speaker 1: the album and she got, uh you had. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he feeling it, but you had to run in

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Speaker 1: with Joe before correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good with Joe Man, Joe just be.

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Speaker 4: I don't like how I rock with Joe because I

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Speaker 4: didn't talk to him on some on some man and Man.

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Speaker 4: But I just feel like he'll kick it with you

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Speaker 4: and then kind of dog yat to the world, right,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Now, it'd be hard for

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Speaker 4: him to do that because it's like the credits don't

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Speaker 4: be matching, Like the comparisons the credits that he has

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Speaker 4: don't be matching.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, right.

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Speaker 4: The credits that he got don't read the real matching

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Speaker 4: to right. The people he begetting on ass. But he

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Speaker 4: do got a word and sometimes he says some things

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Speaker 4: that that it do makes. But I didn't like how

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Speaker 4: he was trying to shit on the females, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. Like it's an evolution, bro, You shouldn't

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Speaker 4: say that that it's dead, And then I don't want

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Speaker 4: him to come for me either, like cause I didn't

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Speaker 4: talk to him. I ain't just down to I just

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Speaker 4: feel I disagree with your pin with the female music.

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Speaker 3: How they doing their thing? Why shit on it? You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Right? But we're good. We're good though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no problem. I ain't got no problem, nobody.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how do you the criticism

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Speaker 1: that comes along with it? How have you been able

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Speaker 1: to develop thick skin? Because you know there been some criticism.

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Speaker 3: I don't come from that though, right, You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't, thank God, like I blew up in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: where we were still we had to get on the floor,

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Speaker 4: we had to see a citys we had to propose

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Speaker 4: us up. I come from doing that shows for five

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Speaker 4: thousand to ten thousand chitling circuit, like I didn't come

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Speaker 4: from Damn. I blew up my song, blew up on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, let me check my comments, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? And I just feel like your coret fan base,

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Speaker 4: as long as you got that and you're successful, you moving.

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Speaker 4: But you know you do see stuff, and you go

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Speaker 4: through stuff. But I try to keep myself up out

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Speaker 4: of that because they'll end up. It'll drive you crazy

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Speaker 4: trying to like prove to these people, because once they

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Speaker 4: see that they can get to you, they just keep going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to do It's like one soon they touch touch

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Speaker 3: that nerve and you show.

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Speaker 4: They touch that nerve, they touch it throughout your whole thing,

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Speaker 4: Like I'll be seeing now, Like when people drop music

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Speaker 4: right they like the next day it's like trolls on

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Speaker 4: there saying how many streams they got in twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: When I come from your record growing because when your

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Speaker 4: record grower, it establishes you more, right, because you can

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Speaker 4: have a number one record for one week and then

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Speaker 4: who at eighty nine and they go to sixty nine

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Speaker 3: That mean they didn't been on.

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Speaker 4: The billboards for twelve weeks and they got up the

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Speaker 4: top twenty, top ten, and you had a number one

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Speaker 4: and they fell right off the chart. I come from

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Speaker 4: development music, like where my first my first songs, I

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Speaker 4: was making my money and people love me and it's

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Speaker 4: it's I feel like it's taken away from the artists creativity.

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Speaker 3: They ain't really because they're so focused on life.

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Speaker 2: Damn, what my number gonna be?

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Speaker 3: I don't be.

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Speaker 4: I ain't even taking that, but I feel like first

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Speaker 4: week numbers it's a way to downplay us, to make

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Speaker 4: us a less value in the game, to like the big.

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Speaker 3: Labels social media, social media.

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Speaker 1: What role do you think social media because you like

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Speaker 1: you said that people sometimes people say things on social

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Speaker 1: sometimes people do things just to get other people in

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Speaker 1: social media to click up with them, like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: see what he said about such and such. He said

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Speaker 3: Are you on? Are you on social media like that?

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Speaker 3: Or you just let it rock?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm always watching, but I try not to

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Speaker 4: buite debate, feeling like, try not to buy debate because

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Speaker 1: See that don't bite de bate. I'm not as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, that you mentioned that I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: You told me that.

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Speaker 4: Some time you can't bite the bait, because once you

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Speaker 4: bite debaate and they might be saying the crazy shit

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Speaker 4: you bite de bait and if you when you realize it,

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Speaker 4: like damn if I'm so small, soon you bite debaate

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Speaker 4: that everywhere. Yeah, soon you speak on something. It just

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Speaker 3: I'm a person too though. Sometimes the super disrespectful ship.

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Speaker 4: I just got to say something because it be because

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Speaker 4: sometimes you be like too the respectful Like it's been

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Speaker 4: times one time, like they were doing some weird stuff

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Speaker 4: my kids. You mad at me that much that you

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Speaker 4: gotta bring my kids and do like a fake little

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Speaker 4: weird mean. I don't play that. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's when I speak on it. When it's like my

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Speaker 4: family little like my kids. You got some weird nasty

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Speaker 4: that do that ship, and it's like, bro, come on, bro,

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Speaker 3: But most of the time I'm gonna ask.

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Speaker 4: I got good people around me to shine, so I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna hit. I'm gonna hit my folks like hey, bro,

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Speaker 4: and they'll be like, don't say nothing. They'll tak me

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Speaker 3: Some people ain't even seen that and then they see

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Speaker 1: I asked Savage about this about dating privately versus publicly, and.

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Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 1: If you could do it over again, what are your

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Speaker 3: If I could do it again, definitely privately, just so.

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Speaker 4: Not let me say not so public, I mean not

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Speaker 4: so I mean not so public because I just show

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Speaker 4: the same time, folks being your business and people judge

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Speaker 4: you like just too much, like just too much into

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Speaker 4: yo yo yo your world, and and it deteriorates a

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Speaker 3: But that ship man, they put a lot of pressure

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Speaker 4: And everybody ain't not everybody not really supposed to see

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Speaker 4: that's supposed to be It's like a household dang.

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Speaker 3: So I was definitely more private.

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Speaker 1: I read it also that you you put the lean down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why do you feel that was important.

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Speaker 3: It was it bothering your help because I mean I

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Speaker 4: Would say, uh, just sometimes I don't feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: It because that that that that hurt, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. You can't keep saying it.

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Speaker 4: But so many times, and it wasn't her trying to like,

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Speaker 4: I knew I was disappointed my mama and disappointed my family.

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Speaker 4: And it's the greatest thing I did. Though, Bro, I

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Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie. I gotta clear mindset. I'm not because

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Speaker 4: it have you like a little aggravated.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: Why do you think so many rappers are taking it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, people got their own trauma.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I never think it's a cool thing, like when

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Speaker 3: I think you try.

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Speaker 4: Something and you enjoy it, it make you feel good

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Speaker 4: and you keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: That's just me being a thousand.

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Speaker 1: As we wrap up here, offset, how does off Set

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Speaker 1: continue to a ball.

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Speaker 3: And move the bar.

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Speaker 4: By being more creative, taking more risks, the risk of

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Speaker 4: no reward. Also studying the greats, man, you gotta study

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Speaker 4: I help a lot of people, Like I don't watch nobody,

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Speaker 4: Because it's hard, especially in this time. People don't be

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Speaker 4: When you said with the Beyonce the situation, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: like as an artist, you're supposed to do that. People

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Speaker 4: their lives.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the heart. You inspire other people.

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Speaker 4: So if you do the same thing, you're only gonna

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Speaker 3: I always want to grow my fan base. I always

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Speaker 4: You was on that bigg ass TV show, right, and

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Speaker 4: you came to do your own thing, and your shit

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Speaker 3: You've been to.

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Speaker 4: Football stars, you went through different levels and it still

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Speaker 4: it's always room for being a bigger and a better brand.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you go through heartbreaks.

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Speaker 4: So sometimes you go through tough times, and the tough

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Speaker 4: time would make you and you for like, damn, what's

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Speaker 4: gonna happen next?

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Speaker 1: Investing? What's what's some of the tips? I mean, what

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Speaker 1: are some of the things that you know? You're like, man,

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Speaker 1: glad I got in on that. Damn I missed that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So what as far as money, because like you said,

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Speaker 1: you come into some money, you get money, You got

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Speaker 3: It's not how much you make, it's how much you keep.

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Speaker 3: Is thattly?

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Speaker 1: You can make ten million, but if you give a

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Speaker 1: nine nine million, nine hundred thousand away as opposed to eight,

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Speaker 1: I got a million and I kept nine hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: So how does offset go about delegating where the money goes?

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Speaker 3: I invested in a phase clan, I got real estate, and.

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Speaker 6: You straight there?

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Speaker 3: You sure you want to make music? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How do you good? You got later? Though?

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Speaker 4: I know I got some up the river, but as

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Speaker 3: Though I got a lot of kids. Bro yeah, you

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Speaker 1: So obviously the avatar, but we can't mention about. Let

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Speaker 3: So what have offset learned most about the business?

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Speaker 4: Knowledge is key and you can't blame You can't blame

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Speaker 3: Yeah? See, because at first when I first came in

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Speaker 4: Two million for me man, running publisher, you got five

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Speaker 4: And then your lawyer ain't gonna tell you. Your lawyer

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Speaker 4: These folks like, look, you gotta hop song. Let me

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Speaker 4: like me, Man, your first month, they done made two

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Speaker 4: learn like, okay, cool, what are my deliverables for this money?

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Speaker 4: I love my label, car work, my label Capital Records,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna try to be like an asshole about it.

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Speaker 3: Out the game. How can I politics better?

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Speaker 4: How can I rub shoulder so this person can know

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Speaker 4: because a lot of time we blame the label, but

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Speaker 4: we ain't really gave them no type of information. We

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Speaker 4: it don't work like that. It's a whole process to everything.

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Speaker 3: So did you learn do you have to learn the

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Speaker 4: These lessons, yes, had the hardway for shure Man, like

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Speaker 4: one deal, like not owning not on all my rights now,

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Speaker 4: but like not owning your rights to your music.

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Speaker 3: All that is like you controlled. So help help me

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's ownership, there's masters, and there's publishing.

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Speaker 3: All those are the same things. Well, you said there's

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Speaker 5: So is publishing and masters? Is that the same thing

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Speaker 5: or two different things? That's okay? So you own the

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Speaker 4: You don't uh order percentage of our masters, old hunter,

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Speaker 4: So are you gonna try to get them? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to get them, but you gotta just you gotta,

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Speaker 4: like I just said, you gotta finish your deliverables. So say,

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Speaker 4: and then why that time while that's going on, they

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Speaker 4: So it's like most artists, you don't see no check

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Speaker 3: That's it. Now publishing gonna go the publish. That's where

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Speaker 4: They gonna go see where all your music and licensed,

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Speaker 4: get all the licenses.

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Speaker 3: You can recoup through streams.

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Speaker 4: And all that, but it be pennies to a dollar,

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Speaker 4: so it might so instare like for me, my publisher,

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Speaker 4: I have an admin deal where we are in an

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Speaker 4: Then I get the CRuMs because then I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: You renewing without having to drop a project.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, with catalog, I got a long catalog

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Speaker 3: So the streaming, because I've heard some people say streaming.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no money. Then I didn't talk to twenty one Savage.

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Speaker 1: Savage says, yeah, Hey, they cut meal check every month,

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Speaker 1: so they gotta be some money in it. What's your

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Speaker 3: I get cut a check too. Streaming is.

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Speaker 4: It's not for everybody, Like I ain't like STAPs. You

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Speaker 4: you get a risk, you go. He went platinum before

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Speaker 4: he was signing anything, so he got his master's everything.

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Speaker 4: But that don't be that's like he like a ten percent.

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Speaker 4: He's like a ten percenter with his situation. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 4: But like to me, I'm gonna say it's a hype

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Speaker 4: But like you might have all these beings and streams,

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Speaker 4: they ain't finish registered to to that. You ain't finna

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Speaker 3: Going to the label for signing you. Right, So if

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Speaker 1: So also in order for you to get that the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it see, it's two, it's it's it's two

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Speaker 4: things for that. See to talk to political all right,

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Speaker 4: Fens is like some folks that just be hard headed.

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Speaker 4: You got to give you gotta get with them folks

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Speaker 4: label is still a machine. Sure, I'll never tell nobody

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Speaker 4: to be just straight independent, even though people say it

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Speaker 4: already got to have some money put to the side

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Speaker 4: I'd rather be with a machine because the partnership and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people know this, but Kobe

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Speaker 6: How old was he when he lived with you? How

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Speaker 3: And you said, is it true that you sign Kobe

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I signed Kobe to a recording contract, so to

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Speaker 6: do what math went just like this, let me set up.

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Speaker 6: When Will Smith made Men in Black and Solo these records,

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Speaker 6: kind of you know, much darker sound, yes, right, compared

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Speaker 6: Will about well right.

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Speaker 6: So I'm like, if this guy and he wrapped over

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Speaker 6: Shaq just did it. Shock sold millions of records man, correct,

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Speaker 6: Shaq had a successful recording music career. And I'm like,

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Speaker 6: Just did it? This kid Kobe, People will love this guy.

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Speaker 6: I mean he went to the problem with Brandy. There

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Speaker 6: of Jordan moving left, Jordan moving right, Jordan guarding people

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00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 6: going left, Jordan guarding people going right. And he'd watch

441
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 6: it for hours and then we would go to the

442
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 6: studio and record. That was his routine every single day.

443
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 6: I learned a lot of discipline. The discipline, uh from

444
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 6: a young man I thought I was, you know, I

445
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 6: thought I was pretty disciplined and doing my thing, and

446
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 6: I've seen another level of it with him, very very

447
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 6: special talent. I could. I could talk about him for

448
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 6: hours because during that period of time when I got

449
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 6: to know him, he wasn't really into having a lot

450
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 6: of friends. A lot of people never got a chance

451
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 6: to get deep in getting a chance to get close

452
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 6: to him because he was he was closed off like that.

453
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 6: And for years, Man, I we would we would, we'd

454
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 6: speak all the time. I mean we became very very

455
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 6: close friends. So obviously it was unfortunate. I took him

456
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 6: to Rucker Park. He played in Ruccer Park, Man, and uh,

457
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 6: he wanted to play because all these guys go out

458
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 6: to all these NBA guys go to Rutger Park. It's like,

459
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 6: you know, you got to play in the Ruccord.

460
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 3: It's like a ride of passage.

461
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 6: Yeah. And we go out there and I gave him

462
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 6: to my man. I didn't have a team, IRV God.

463
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 6: He grew up in my neighborhood. I let him play

464
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 6: for Earth's Murder Inc. Team at the time. And he

465
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 6: goes out there and all the guys are there and

466
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 6: he starts putting on the show, a show. He loved it.

467
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 6: It starts to drizzle. I'm like, we got to close

468
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 6: this game down. I mean, I'm not letting him play,

469
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 6: but he's not gonna let the game. He's not gonna

470
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 6: want to be the one to call it. So he

471
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 6: starts telling the basketball team how to play on wet surfaces.

472
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 6: I'm like, we're not doing any of this because I

473
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 6: already know this man gets hurt if it's on me,

474
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 6: it's on my watch, So we shut it down. But uh, yeah,

475
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 6: he put out I forgot, But he's got thirty points

476
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 6: in you know, twelve minutes or some crazy number and

477
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 6: shit like that.

478
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: So could you tell because you said he's so disciplined,

479
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: he's watching Jordan go left, watching Jordan go right, Jordan's

480
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: garden left, Jordan's garden right, and he's back in the

481
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: studio recording. Did you did you know then, with the

482
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: level of discipline that an eineteen year old kid had,

483
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be what he became. Oakley told me.

484
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 6: Charles told me, Charles, Charles told me immediately similarities between

485
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 6: him and Jordan as a with work ethic. He knew

486
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 6: it immediately. Like he came in talking that I didn't

487
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 6: know what the fuck he was talking about. I'm like, whatever,

488
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 6: he said that. But the other thing he did was

489
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 6: he asked me, and I had this guy who worked

490
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 6: for me at the time. He's actually now his name

491
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 6: is Anton Marshawn. He's actually recruits for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

492
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 6: He worked for me in the music business at the time.

493
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 6: Kobe was gonna guard out on Iverson that yet he

494
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 6: was very much respectful of Iverson's speed and all that,

495
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 6: and he said, go get He wanted to get young

496
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 6: guards from New York that could you know, do they

497
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 6: things over and crossover and a lot. We got him.

498
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 6: Went to this indoor Jim. He lined ten of them up.

499
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 6: They came in from the three point line. He stood

500
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: at the file line and they would come in like

501
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 6: an assembly line, and he would guard them, try to

502
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 6: strip them, take them to the hole, and then run

503
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 6: back to the line before the next guy came.

504
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: He ran.

505
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 6: He never got on offense. He ran that a like

506
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 6: an assembly line. Wow, he was just garden. He was

507
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 6: garden guys six foot fast as shit. They get past them,

508
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 6: steal from them, block it, you know, rub the shit

509
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 6: against the backboard, come back guard. The next time he

510
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 6: was doing this over I couldn't believe that he was

511
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 6: doing this, no offense, no nothing. And it was like

512
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 6: this level of discipline and then a tough guy, tough

513
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 6: like it's a strong discipline tough, principal, driven. Man. We

514
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 6: are one night to this bar, and back then, street

515
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 6: guys would buy all of the crystal. Yeah right, but

516
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 6: let me tell you something. They're buying a crystal because

517
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 6: what they want is assuming, not because they are drinking

518
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 6: all of it. If somebody comes in they want to

519
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 6: and you ordered crystal, you gotta check in, good, you

520
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 6: gotta check in. So I ordered a crystal. He's not

521
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: even drinking. Kobe's not drinking at all. Back then, he

522
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 6: was not drinking alcohol at that time. Guy says, I

523
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 6: have to check in this guy down at the bar

524
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 6: or whatever. I'm like, I don't feel like doing it.

525
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 6: He's like, man, fuck this good thing. So I got

526
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 6: the chrystal. No, I didn't get the Christal. I didn't

527
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 6: want to do it. I'm like, I'm not fuck this.

528
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 6: I'm not doing this. We go out to a dinah

529
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 6: like two three in the morning and the same guy

530
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 6: street guy won't say his name, is sitting there and

531
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 6: Cole is making jokes about his outfit and he's being

532
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 6: a little loud. I'm like, yeah, you gotta chill with

533
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 6: that bro. Yeah, he's not chilling with that bro. He's loud.

534
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 6: The guy, send somebody over, yo, blah blah blah, want

535
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 6: to talk to you. I go outside. I'm like, yo,

536
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 6: the young kid, he got the gun out. He's like, yo,

537
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: he got the gun out. Yeah, I'm like, yo, he's

538
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: a young man. Trying to tell him.

539
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: That's how.

540
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 6: He didn't even know who he was. All right, So

541
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 6: you don't even know what Kobe Bryant is. I'm like,

542
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 6: he's my young man thing.

543
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: He's cool.

544
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: Whatever. Whatever. Kobe comes outside, seize the gun. I'm like,

545
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 6: go go back in. He was, I'm not going nowhere.

546
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 6: He did this on twenty third and ninth Avenue. He

547
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 6: did that what little boy at eighteen. The whole thing

548
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 6: it died, but he said he ain't going nowhere. I'm like, yo,

549
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 6: he's this thing. He don't know who you are. I

550
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 6: was already, it was already. The guy felt embarrassed. It

551
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 6: wasn't like, it wasn't crazy. The guy felt embarrassed. He

552
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 6: really wanted an apology for the embarrassment was because it

553
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 6: was loud, right, and I was giving him that. It's cool, man,

554
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 6: it's fine. He didn't mean no distract. He didn't even

555
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 6: know who you are. Man, He's not even.

556
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: From here right.

557
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 6: When he hit the thing out when he said, I

558
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: ain't going nowhere?

559
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: Two?

560
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 6: What kind of person is this? I'm giving you the

561
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 6: out right. This is not your problem. I'll deal with

562
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 6: this problem right. He don't want this is our problem?

563
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: Wow? Man, I never told that story. Man, So what

564
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean?

565
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: So you knowing that the kid is so disparate, know

566
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: that he's standing as they say, now business.

567
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: What what did he teach you?

568
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 6: You can run through walls. Man, you believe it. You

569
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 6: could do anything. There's nothing you can't do that if

570
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 6: you believe in it. That's what he taught me.

571
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: He never did he speak about the basketball aspect.

572
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: I understand he was there to do music, but he

573
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: did he talk to you about what he wanted to.

574
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 6: Become in the hell? Yeah, man, he had no could

575
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 6: say he manifested all of it, but he really did

576
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: the work. He knew that if you did all the work,

577
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 6: that ultimately it was gonna happen.

578
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: He didn't even think about it.

579
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: He all His whole thing was that everybody who was

580
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 6: a talent always tapped out and doing the work. I

581
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 6: asked them one time we were at a we were

582
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 6: at a restaurant and we're sitting there talking. I just

583
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 6: and I always wanted to ask this question, dude, what

584
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 6: do you think about athletes that come from out I

585
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 6: ask you this, man, athletes that come from two parent

586
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 6: households versus athletes that come from single parent households. So

587
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 6: you got these guys who come from single parent households.

588
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 6: They're in a football field and their anger and the

589
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: shit that they I'm doing this for my mother, I

590
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 6: ain't got no father, whatever the circumstances are. They bring

591
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 6: in all that energy on the basketball court, on the

592
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 6: football field and they play with that level of rage. Yeah,

593
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 6: and he goes, I said, how do you feel about them?

594
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 6: Versus he goes, you know, those guys are intimidating and

595
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 6: they play with that rage and it works until they

596
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: run into the real thing. Michael Jordan me, Magic Johnson.

597
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 6: They run into that and we got the same level

598
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 6: of work, ethic and rage. But we have we come

599
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 6: from a solid foundation, and that solid foundation that's the

600
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: that's the thing that those guys can't be. He said

601
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 6: that to me, I was like.

602
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 7: All right, wow, like stop this ship, because every some

603
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 7: of us just worked our asshole. Like I was even

604
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 7: just hearing cats hear all the things he'd been through

605
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 7: and why he didn't do this or go here and

606
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 7: do this.

607
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you and Cat had some back and forth,

608
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: y'all cool?

609
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 7: Now, No, not really, but it's it's okay, it's okay,

610
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 7: it's okay. We don't have to be because his success

611
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 7: is his success and my success is my success.

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: What started it?

613
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 7: Well, this is think about it? That Wonder Smith interview. Yeah,

614
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 7: the one, the part nobody talks about. It is for

615
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 7: no reason, Cat brings up me, Gerard and Hannibal Birds

616
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 7: for no reason at all.

617
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't even remember what the fucking question was.

618
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: He just let it a you can't. Yeah, they gonna

619
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: make your style of real, but you're ugly? So what

620
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: the fuck I got to do with this?

621
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: So you were you were in there one, that's.

622
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the beginning of the interview. That's what made

623
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 7: Wanda kind of start.

624
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: Fucking with him.

625
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 7: Now, don't get me wrong, Like the whole wander back

626
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 7: and forth of him is the funniest ship I ever.

627
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and you know, and Wanda wasn't always nice

628
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 7: to all of us, be quite honest, So it was

629
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 7: kind of It's very interesting that all this transpirt.

630
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: It was interesting since she those two.

631
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: It's it's the craziest happenstance of all the time. But

632
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: that's what it was. Cat, I don't know what even

633
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: what that meant.

634
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 7: He said, they're gonna make you your star of rail,

635
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 7: but you're ugly, he said, little real Jerra called Michael

636
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 7: Hannibal Kank walk the mall in the landa I forgot

637
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 7: the mall Linux, Linux, and no woman would talk to them.

638
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 7: And to this day, man, I swear to God, I

639
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 7: ain't try to start those ship. I just don't understand. Look,

640
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 7: I don't think I'm the finest nigg in the world,

641
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 7: but a short nigga with a perm.

642
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Man, you know we're gonna see this in respond I

643
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck.

644
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: Yah, you know what I'm saying, Like like.

645
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 7: If we were both two regular niggas in the mouth,

646
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 7: right and he has the perm and right the mustag

647
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 7: r and I walk in like this with my regular ship.

648
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: Who the fuck you think women are gonna talk to.

649
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, real, I don't know. I ain't sad.

650
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 7: So that's the that's the only irritating thing about that

651
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 7: for me, Like other than that it's like Cat brother.

652
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: If I'm an ugly.

653
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 7: Nigga, thank God, cause that's why nothing happened to me.

654
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody approached me. Ain't nobody asked me to do ship.

655
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 7: I guess I'm an ugly talented nigga. I'm okay with it.

656
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: God Rell, why you come up here. I'm saying.

657
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 7: You think you asked about it, And I'm just saying, like,

658
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: and I look at all comics, you know, y'all all

659
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 7: of us like man, everybody's like, come on, man, you're

660
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 7: gonna go.

661
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: But Cat did say that ship. It was just weird.

662
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 7: I just I just even when I'm talking about Jonathan Made,

663
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 7: It's like, how who do Cat Williams? Did he look

664
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 7: like like You're not an attractive person?

665
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: You look weird?

666
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 6: Real he does?

667
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: How about you? Have you talked to Cat?

668
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 7: We were dressed like this nigga's Halloween like him, not

669
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 7: the character when dress, his money where it was addressed.

670
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: His cat win When the last time you saw Cat?

671
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 7: This a crazy story, right, So it was at the

672
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 7: Enemies a couple of years ago. So this is when

673
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 7: we into it, like we just happened.

674
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, y okay, y'all go y'all.

675
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: We did this videos.

676
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: It's happening.

677
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: I just presented an award.

678
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 7: At the end of this, I go backstage right and

679
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 7: Chappelle don't know men as dude beefing. Chappelle sees me,

680
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 7: oh Larel, oh wims cat you know Lorel Laurell.

681
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 8: You know Cat.

682
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Now we're just staring at each other. David, Like, what

683
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: the fuck? Won't you two niggas right?

684
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: Because we y'all, y'all just looking at each other. Ain't

685
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: nobody say that.

686
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 7: I'm fall up a fist up like you have to

687
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 7: see the author mean, yeah up stead of him.

688
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: We ain't saying ship to each other. And he's holding

689
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: this emmy. He has his emmy in his hand. That

690
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: was less of myself. Nothing happened. He just walked away, y'all.

691
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: What's up?

692
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't nigga.

693
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 7: I was because I was still human at that time.

694
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 7: It was like, yo, were about to like, what the

695
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 7: fuck about to happen back here because it's I'm morel Yeah,

696
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 7: I'm Chicago nigga too, So it's like, I mean, we're

697
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 7: about to do this.

698
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, You're.

699
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: About to turn that mmies into the source of woof.

700
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: You once said that you believe Cat was jealous of you.

701
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: You still feel that way.

702
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 7: No, I was just talking ship. I don't think he's

703
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 7: jealous of me. I do think he's jealous of Kevin

704
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 7: Hart and and it's so weird because he don't have

705
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 7: to be like brother, you are so fucking successful, Like

706
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 7: you're one of the most successful stand up comedians we've

707
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: ever seen. You didn't have the hype machine. Honestly, he's

708
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 7: the benefit of Bootleg DVDs.

709
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: You remember when they yeah, every I in Chicago. I

710
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: remember being in Chicago at the time.

711
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 7: Everybody had that Cat win, specially in the right and

712
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 7: because you know, Bootleg helped comedy at that time, because

713
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 7: those people go buy tickets to see you.

714
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely, the boot.

715
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: Leg man really was your damn he was your promoter. Yes,

716
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 7: they watch you at the crib and you would sell

717
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 7: out all your shows. And Cat benefited from that man.

718
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 7: And I think I think he's not even just stand

719
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 7: up man. Like anytime you see him on.

720
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: Screen, Oh yeah, you just want to m me for Atlanta, right, you.

721
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Want that ship for Atlanta?

722
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 7: He fucking every time you see them, my wife and kids,

723
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 7: Like he was fucking great on there.

724
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: He was like you see him, Like even the School

725
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: Dance movie.

726
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 7: We know that's not a good movie, but only thing

727
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: you watches that clip, you know what I mean, it's

728
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 7: fucking brilliant and so like and I look, let me

729
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 7: say that I was just I'm talking shit.

730
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: We roast each other, we comic that.

731
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: What it is.

732
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck whatever you say about me

733
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 7: at this I don't give a rats ass.

734
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: But at the same time I do. I really do

735
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: wish that we could.

736
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to sound like some old let's get

737
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 7: a loan shit, but like, god damn, it's no reason

738
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 7: why we can't do another Harlem Nights with all this

739
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 7: great fucking talent, or not even the Harlem Night but

740
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 7: just a movie yeah that features everybody, you know what

741
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 7: I mean, man, like Nick tried to do with School Daans.

742
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 7: But like, let's find something with it, like a really

743
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 7: good script, some really dope shit and like fucking get

744
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 7: all these powerhouses on fucking screen together. Like I'm sick

745
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 7: of this shit, right, it doesn't make fucking sense. You know,

746
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 7: it's not it's you know you, and it's be honest

747
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 7: with you. It's a bunch of old beasts. So I'll

748
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 7: say this right now. Cat, Look, I'm just talking shit.

749
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 7: I ain't mad at you. I can give a ratsass.

750
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 7: I respect the fuck out of you. You want the

751
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 7: greatest to ever do it. Even if you talk about

752
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 7: me after this, I don't really give a fuck. But

753
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 7: I respect you, and I respect all y'all. So, like,

754
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: I just think we all figure out a way to

755
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 7: like merge this ship up, man. Like we all talked shit, man,

756
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 7: but I don't think we should bring in all behind

757
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 7: the scenes comedy mess right on the four and just

758
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 7: call call these people, call Ricky and tell Ricky hey, man, Ricky,

759
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 7: I didn't like the way you was talking shit on

760
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 7: the Friday, said about how that was supposed to be

761
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: your road, and just talk it out, Carl said to say, said, man,

762
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: I felt like that joke. That really a joke. That's

763
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 7: not even a big fucking deal. And they both do

764
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 7: it totally differently, and it's a joke. Noney, you need anymore.

765
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 7: Let's talk this shit out, even with Steve Harvey.

766
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Talk this shit out, man.

767
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 7: You know, Bernie, we don't have to show Bernie love

768
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 7: by shitting on somebody else. Bernie's one of the greatest

769
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 7: to ever fucking do it, one of the hugest influences

770
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 7: ever in this game. He's one of the cats to

771
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 7: me that are always gonna represent a grown ass man

772
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 7: in his fucking business.

773
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know Bernie would let this shit fly

774
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: like this because he wasn't that type of dude.

775
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 7: He won't gonna be, you know, even when Bernie talked

776
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 7: about like even if they've been playing the clip about

777
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 7: comic stealing jokes, but even that's.

778
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: That's really vice. To this day. It's the reason why

779
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't go up in l a lot.

780
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: And so like.

781
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 2: And I get it.

782
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 7: Because most of the time, people want to do what

783
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 7: they think is the hot thing to do. If you're

784
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 7: the hot thing, guess who they're gonna they're gonna mind

785
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 7: make and to make it because everybody want to make it.

786
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: That's the one thing people talk about all this other ship.

787
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, like, people steal styles and dialect and

788
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 7: all type of ship because they like, well, this person

789
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 7: made it. So you know, that's that's I just I

790
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 7: love and let me give you some props too, because

791
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 7: and any other comic that does is after this we realize,

792
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 7: I realize how mainstream you are.

793
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that ship, and you've

794
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: only had.

795
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 7: Us on here, and so I think you know, for

796
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 7: the most part, you know, I told my story hopefully

797
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 7: inspired somebody. That's what we should be doing, telling our

798
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 7: stories and promoting each other, not even just in stand

799
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 7: up and fucking movies or TV. We have we have

800
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 7: movies like the Color Purple. Dion Cola comic is in

801
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: color purple. Come on, man, that's crazy. Comic View Depth

802
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 7: Jam is in the Reimagined movie and Color Purple.

803
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.

804
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: And so we have all these things happening.

805
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 7: You know, we got the Aver Duvernets and the movies

806
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 7: like Origin and fucking American fiction. I love every I watch,

807
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 7: and I love everybody, and now I don't know, like

808
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 7: corn Ball Ship, I just love I Channa.

809
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: I love this ship.

810
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 7: You know I've been your once again, your show has

811
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 7: kicked off. Outside that interview, so many comics, it's so

812
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 7: many conversations happening. And you know, one of the things

813
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 7: that people don't realize once again, I will tell you earlier.

814
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: That everybody's journey is different.

815
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: Correct.

816
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: You know I did hear say, like, you know, you're

817
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: talking about Kevin Heart.

818
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 7: Like with Kevin Heart, how many people you know come

819
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 7: to LA with a movie and a sitcom and it's

820
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 7: and that.

821
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately I was watching them. I'm like, dang cat. Never,

822
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: he don't know, he don't know about the festival circit. Oh,

823
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: he don't he don't know. Jesus Christ. You know how

824
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: Kevin gets deals like that?

825
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 7: You go to the Just for Last festival in Montreal,

826
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 7: which is one of the biggest comedy festivals in the world.

827
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: You know what happens at the Montreal Comedy Festival.

828
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 7: You go up on stage, have a great fight at

829
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 7: ten minutes, and the next day you're meeting with studio

830
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 7: execs that are actually there. They were giving people deals

831
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 7: at these festivals. That festival helped change my life. They

832
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: still do that, still do it. It's still the biggest.

833
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 7: Like a lot of us go now and get awards

834
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 7: from it now. I got an award as a breakout

835
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 7: comedy star a couple of years ago, and I remember

836
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 7: my speech. It was teared up giving my speech. You

837
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: know why because I sat in the back of that

838
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 7: room ten years ago as a new face comic. It

839
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 7: was like one day, I'm gonna be up there to

840
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 7: get the award. And I got my award and I stood.

841
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 7: I literally it was packed in there, and I looked.

842
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 7: I said, I told the comics, I love the speech,

843
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 7: and there I said, I forget the speech. I sat

844
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 7: in that last seat back there, that last seat back there,

845
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 7: and watched these that award show and spoke that up

846
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 7: that I was gonna be up there getting.

847
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: This one day.

848
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 7: You know, I'll say this once again, you don't know

849
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 7: everybody's journey like that.

850
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: You don't.

851
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 7: And I think people gotta be okay with not understand

852
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 7: different parts of the game. Like brother, the festivals, a

853
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 7: lot of people got. It was the time the early

854
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 7: two thousands, Man, they was giving out deals at the HBO.

855
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: Asked for festival and it just for last festival.

856
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: They was getting me cast like five hundred thousand dollars

857
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 7: and a half it like like like just money. I

858
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 7: think Cat might have been one of the people that

859
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 7: got one of those deals at one point. Whatever opportunities

860
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 7: you get, that's on you. What you do with it, right,

861
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 7: you can't judge nobody else. How they took how they

862
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 7: took the ball and ran with it. Yeah, so that's

863
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 7: why I had to say that Cat gave me some

864
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 7: advice to this day that I've kept with me, which

865
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 7: is very interesting.

866
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: And it was weird when he gave it to me.

867
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 7: We was at the emprov d raised he still do

868
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 7: Monday nights at the EMPERV And I got on stage

869
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 7: out of great set and some one of the cats,

870
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 7: in one of his homies, said like, hell, Cat wanted to,

871
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 7: you know, say what's up to you? And I go

872
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 7: say what's up to him? And he didn't really say hi, nothing.

873
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 7: He just gave me this advice, That's all it was.

874
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 7: I was like, oh man, what's up. I'm a big fan,

875
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 7: you know, blah blah buds. Don't let these niggas burn

876
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 7: you out. I was like, what, don't let these niggas

877
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 7: burn you out?

878
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: What did he mean by that?

879
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 7: I don't know, but I took that advice and and

880
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 7: it only it shows up in certain times, right. I

881
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 7: think it shows up when my team wants me to

882
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 7: do way more stuff and I'm tired, you know what

883
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 7: I mean, Or somebody's pushing me too much, and I'm like, nah,

884
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 7: I gotta I don't want to be burnt out. I

885
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 7: gotta I gotta have it together. I think like you,

886
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 7: I look at somebody like, well, you have to learn

887
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 7: to say no. You gotta not even just no or

888
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 7: not right now. You got to learn to pace yourself.

889
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to you know that strike the iron

890
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 7: wires hot. I think is could be a little scary

891
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 7: at times because that means you're just gonna do whatever.

892
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 7: But like if you take yourself and just pace yourself.

893
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 7: Because I look at somebody, Bernie Max a great example

894
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 7: who we saw. Really Bernie was working all the time, yes,

895
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 7: and you know sometimes you know, I think he white

896
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 7: have a little fatigued because he'll he'll he'll come to La.

897
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 7: You know, he didn't live in La, right, So Bernie

898
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 7: would come here and film and then literally go back

899
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 7: to Chicago.

900
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Which is crazy, right, You'll film here all week and

901
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: then you fly back to Chicago just to be at

902
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: your Like, that's a lot. And so I just wanted

903
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: to make sure Cat said that.

904
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 7: But then Chris Rock kind of said the same thing

905
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 7: when we talked before, and I've heard it from a

906
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 7: bunch of veteran comics about pacing yourself and not burning

907
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 7: you out, burn yourself out.

908
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: But as excuse me as a young comic coming up

909
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: in the game, there's a fine line between getting out

910
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: and doing nothing said, so people see you, so you

911
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: get that big break and not like like Cassaid, not

912
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: burning yourself out.

913
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: So where is that line?

914
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 7: Well, in the beginning, it doesn't feel like a burnout

915
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 7: because you grind it.

916
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: You just need the stage.

917
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 7: You just well, you get the stage and the stage

918
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 7: time mat that's what you'll do, you know what I'm saying.

919
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 7: Like you know, like, for instance, I told you about

920
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 7: Dray had the Sundays Bruh. When I first started. He

921
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 7: wants to get that was the hottest club in Chicago,

922
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 7: and I wanted to go up every week, and so

923
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 7: he's like, Yo, you want some stage time, you got

924
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 7: to help seat. So I helped see the people. Every

925
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 7: Sunday boat shows, I was seating people. And I'm gonna

926
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 7: be catching a lot of shit from comedians like damn,

927
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 7: how you gonna do that. That's not degrading, that's not

928
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 7: da da dada. I'm like, nah, cause I get a

929
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: chance to go up on the hottest stage every single

930
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 7: week in front of the biggest crowd every single week, right,

931
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 7: So I don't care how embarrassing it looks. Matter of fact,

932
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 7: it gives me a cheat code. I know everybody does

933
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 7: in here. I know what this audience gonna be. I

934
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 7: know what the energy is. I seated everybody in here,

935
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 7: and so you know, it's one of those things where

936
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 7: like you know, I cared about the stage time, brother,

937
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 7: it's just getting those reps up, and that was so important.

938
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 7: But then it's like learning all different aspects of the game,

939
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 7: which is why, like you know, I think it's very important,

940
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 7: and I definitely I have to say this.

941
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: It's like everybody's journey is different.

942
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 7: Nobody has the same journey, right, and which is why

943
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 7: I don't like telling nobody else's story.

944
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

945
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 7: Everybody's journey is different, which is why I think it's

946
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 7: so beautiful about this time now in black comedy. You know,

947
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 7: people don't realize that comedy is still kind of a

948
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 7: new It's kind of the newest, a newer entertainment thing,

949
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 7: almost like hip hop is. And so we just really

950
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 7: seeing our consistent millionaires of black comedians. This this is new,

951
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 7: like the deals that Kevin is getting, the stuff that

952
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 7: Cat has done, stuff that's said is done, the Frickie's

953
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 7: done with the rating. This is just this is consistently

954
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 7: still almost first generation of all this type of success.

955
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 7: And it's a bunch of people at the same time.

956
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 7: And so like, you know, I I'm excited about like,

957
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 7: we just have all these different things happen. We have

958
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 7: fucking hit radio hosts, and we have cats who've been

959
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 7: on several sitcoms.

960
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: We have cats who still torn arenas everywhere.

961
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 7: Selling Now we have this cat who's like, you know,

962
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 7: you look at Kevin is selling underwear.

963
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: Now we got everything.

964
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 7: You know, It's like, you know, comics are selling shoes,

965
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 7: Mike EPs is buying his neighborhood, you know, Michael Blackson

966
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 7: is going back to Like it's so much happening. It's like, yo,

967
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 7: Like I hope sometimes that people could take time. I

968
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 7: know it's competitive what we do, but take time to

969
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 7: be like, yo, what YO were doing this shit?

970
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: You know?

971
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: We have a Jamie Fox who want an oscar. Yeah,

972
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: a black stand.

973
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 7: Up comic, and we think about most of everybody came

974
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 7: from def jam and comic views. True, you understand what

975
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like our people stars and not everybody's crossed over.

976
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.

977
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm not who I'm who I am because of them.

978
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I asked a special comedian to come in here and

979
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: give me their Mount Rushmore. Oh gosh, and they named

980
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: seven people. You do understand that Mount Rushmore has four heads.

981
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just okay, go ahead.

982
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: And a lot of times what I've been getting, yes,

983
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: is that current comedian says, I can't name somebody from

984
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: my generation because I'm with them.

985
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: You right.

986
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: So if I said, okay, give me your your give

987
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: me god threes four best comedian.

988
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 5: It's usually your four best, or should be the people

989
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 5: that you watch the most, like you watch video on

990
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 5: them the most. And I got Prior Carlin, Red Fox,

991
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: and Paul Mooney. I watched them all the time. And

992
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: Paul Mooney, Oh my god. I think Paul Mooney doesn't

993
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: get the respect that he deserves, you know, because he

994
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 5: wrote for Richard Pryor, he wrote, he wrote for a

995
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: Living Color Me the clown that was Paul Mooney, he

996
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: wrote for even The Chappelle Show.

997
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: I love Paul Mooney. I watch a lot of Paul Mooney,

998
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: and I.

999
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 5: Wish Paul Mooney were alive to come on this show, be.

1000
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: Like Shannon, this is a very good show. Very You're brilliant.

1001
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: You're brilliant.

1002
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: You're brilliant, But niggas don't like you.

1003
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: Shannon Shop, you a big motherfucker. You will kill a

1004
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: niggas ass. You didn't put prior up there? I did

1005
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: you put a proud Murphy? That's who you left?

1006
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 5: No Murphy, I think Murph Eddie Murphy, of course, he's

1007
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: a hero of mine, one of the greatest comedic actors.

1008
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 5: Nobody's fucking with Eddie Murphy on the comedy and movies.

1009
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 5: And you can match emany but there's a lot of

1010
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 5: funny people, but Eddie Murphy is the best. I just

1011
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: I don't think I've seen Eddie Murphy enough as far

1012
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: as specials and stuff.

1013
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 3: But Eddie is up there. What what you said? Top four?

1014
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: That's bullshit? And he top five? Eddie put up the

1015
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: mat Rushmore? Who your four head you're gonna put on?

1016
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 5: Those are presidents that should have had no business up there?

1017
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: What we got commit I just gave you Red Fox.

1018
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: Red Fox ain't bad, Thank you very much. I really

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: like your show. It's very good. I watched it all

1020
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: the time. How you doing, sir?

1021
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 5: Anyway, this is Red Fox and I'm very happy to

1022
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: be on Club shay Shape.

1023
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: You a lot of niggas got a podcast.

1024
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: You got you like you like George carlinout George. What

1025
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: is it about carlon.

1026
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: His word play? It's his word play, it's his's it's

1027
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 5: his intelligence on how he puts words together, and said, listen,

1028
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: everybody has a taste. And Carlin was never lazy with

1029
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 5: a joke. He always because he grew up his parents

1030
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 5: were advertising people. His mom and dad were good with words,

1031
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: and he was always is his joke writing. It's just

1032
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: the word play.

1033
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 3: He loved using different words.

1034
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 5: And so I was like, that's made me focus on words,

1035
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: because comedy is an art form of words, syntax.

1036
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: It's about how you say it.

1037
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: Some people some I see some jokes and like, even

1038
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: for myself, I'm hard on myself. If I see a

1039
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 5: joke and it's too lazy, I go, it could.

1040
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: Be better than that.

1041
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 5: And I watched Carl and I go, damn, even if

1042
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 5: the joke wasn't that funny to you, but the work

1043
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 5: he put in.

1044
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: It, you go, god, damn, that was brilliant. You know

1045
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1046
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: It's like it's his wordplay and the things that he

1047
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: says about society going out white supremacy. A white guy

1048
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 5: saying it to white people is very important. Yes, an

1049
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: Irish guy from Harlem. It's important that this white guy

1050
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: is saying, you know, y'all ain't shit.

1051
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: You feel me?

1052
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: Has someone that Have you ever heard a joke? Yeah,

1053
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, I could have done that joke better.

1054
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: Yes, And then there's some jokes where I go, Damn,

1055
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: he got that that's the best or she got that

1056
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: that was the best take I've seen. I've seen somewhere

1057
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 5: I could Damn I could have done that better. Damn

1058
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 5: I wish I had that joke that was perfect. Yeah,

1059
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: of course, a lot of many times you do.

1060
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: So can you do Chappello? Yeah? See, I'm gonna tell

1061
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: you something, man, this is great. This is great.

1062
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: I love being on club Shay Shay bitch man. I

1063
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: love it.

1064
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: He's like at Chappelle.

1065
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 5: I've known since ninety six ninety seven, and Chappelle is

1066
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 5: one of the grades. But everybody does Chappelle, So you

1067
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: have to sort of talk like this, and now his

1068
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 5: voice is little.

1069
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'm listening. I'm not transphobic.

1070
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: I'm not I have friends, I have friends that I

1071
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: have a lot of trans friends. And remember when he

1072
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: got he got, I guess they blocked his show in Minnesota, right,

1073
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 5: and in that theater they were like, the trans community came,

1074
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 5: they blocked his show, and then he went to another

1075
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: theater about twenty minutes later and sold that out.

1076
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm trans.

1077
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: I feel I'm trans because I transferred from one theater

1078
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: to another and that was a great transaction.

1079
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: Bitch.

1080
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: When I hear people talk about him, yes, it's like

1081
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: there's like he was a prodigy.

1082
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: He started at a very very young team, like but

1083
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: a lot of.

1084
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: Comedians don't start until they're in the later twenties, mid twenties.

1085
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: I started after college twenty two.

1086
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: So here's the guy that's fourteen and they're saying he's

1087
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: gone to these club where adults perform.

1088
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so you knew him. Did you know he

1089
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: was going to become this No, I didn't. I heard

1090
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 5: about him. Well, actually, when I first got to New

1091
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 5: York City, one of my first shows was with him

1092
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 5: on the show. It was with him on the show,

1093
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 5: and he was I heard his name, Dave Chappelle, Dave

1094
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 5: Chappelle because he did he had done star Search, Yes,

1095
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: young and even Ed McMahon said that guy is going

1096
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: to be a star watch and you don't remember star

1097
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 5: search ed McMahon before American Idol, it was star Search

1098
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: four Star four three stars. Simbag came from there, Martin Laurie,

1099
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: A lot of people that are stars came from there.

1100
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 5: And I heard about him. I heard about him. Then

1101
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: I was ended up on a show with him. I

1102
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: think I had to go after him.

1103
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 3: He murdered. I had to go after him.

1104
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: But I heard about him, and I knew, Okay, this

1105
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: guy is something to watch because everybody Chappelle, Chappelle, Chappelle and.

1106
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: And I guess the guy.

1107
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: I want to give credit to Tony Woods, who was

1108
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 5: in Who Chappelle. He took Chappel under his wing in DC.

1109
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 5: Tony Woods is an underrated comedian who's fantastic. Yeah, so Chappelle.

1110
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 5: I knew Chappelle was gonna beat I didn't know how

1111
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 5: big until that Chappelle show.

1112
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: I didn't know he was gonna be like right whoo,

1113
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: He's Matt like massive.

1114
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, because you see him in a Nutting Professor,

1115
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: He's Reggie killed that, and then you see him in

1116
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Blue Street yeah, and you like man, dude.

1117
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 5: Is amazing and it's comedy. He's an amazing comedian because

1118
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 5: he loves I think he loves comedy more than anything.

1119
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: I believe so because he puts the time in, he

1120
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 5: puts the hours in. And I'm gonna tell you this.

1121
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 5: I think you had a guest on here that I

1122
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: disagreed with.

1123
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: Okay, no, and this is no.

1124
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 5: You know I you know, I would love to start

1125
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 5: beef because I want this to go to sixty million.

1126
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: I want to call somebody out. I just want to

1127
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: fucking start some shit. But I won't do that. You

1128
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

1129
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 6: Damn.

1130
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 5: But when Country Wayne was on here, Yeah, first of all,

1131
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: I don't know Country Wayne at all, but I watched

1132
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 5: his video. I give him his credit for him making

1133
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: all that money. I was listening to him like, oh,

1134
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 5: what how did you do this? You know I love

1135
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: his hustle. Smart dude. I mean, he making millions off

1136
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 5: of this shit.

1137
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: I wish I could.

1138
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 5: But he said one statement that I disagreed with. Country

1139
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 5: I disagreed with you. What was the statement I think

1140
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 5: he said? And if I'm wrong, you correct me. Said

1141
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: something about if anybody's in a comedy club. Still that

1142
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 5: means you're not doing any something like that to that.

1143
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if he was answering Faison. I think

1144
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: it was him and Faison going.

1145
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: At it, because Faison's my dude, right, everybody be going

1146
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: in Faison. I love Fazon Goals.

1147
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 5: Everybody Elseason is the funnies of a bitch. But he's saying,

1148
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: if you're still in the comedy clubs, you're not a

1149
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: real comedian.

1150
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: I think he said that. Am I wrong? Something did

1151
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: that to say?

1152
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 5: And I go I think he was talking about him, Okay, please,

1153
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: because I was like, you are wrong about that shit.

1154
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: I'm in the comedy clubs.

1155
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: D l's in.

1156
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 5: The comedy clubs are still being built. They're not fading away.

1157
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: If you do theaters, that's like a blessing. But theaters

1158
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 5: are multipurpose rooms. Comedy clubs usually are just for comic

1159
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 5: comedians of all statues do comedy clubs. There's the rare

1160
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: moments you have. You know, Chappelle still comes to comedy

1161
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 5: clubs and works on his ship. Seinfeld, who's a billionaire,

1162
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 5: still comes to the comedy But I think.

1163
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I might be. I might be.

1164
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: I think what he was saying, Yeah, that's his only

1165
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: choice is to do those The people that you mentioned

1166
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: can do arenas, they can do theaters. He's saying that

1167
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: he probably the only thing he can do. Okay, I'm like, shit,

1168
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: so what does that make me?

1169
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: Because it's not easy.

1170
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 5: First of all, it's not easy to fill a comedy club,

1171
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: even if it's a three hundred seater, four hundreds eater,

1172
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: it's not easy. Like, there's people who have been fortunate,

1173
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 5: especially with the Algarithm. You get to all of them.

1174
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 5: You got eight million followers. Yeah, just numerically, you're gonna

1175
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 5: fill the ship up. But are you going to put

1176
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: the work in. Are you going to have the performance

1177
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: that that that keeps him up to match it?

1178
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: Which comedy?

1179
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you this, and even Kat said it,

1180
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: you gotta you can't.

1181
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 3: Cheat comedy, man.

1182
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: I'm telling you I when I first got to New York,

1183
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 5: you know how many shows I was doing per week?

1184
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: Forty shows a week?

1185
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 5: Forty You heard what I said, forty dog, give me

1186
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 5: some cognac, know, we get that cognac. Come on, man,

1187
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 5: get that cognac. Shit, Hold on god, that ship Hell yeah,

1188
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 5: there's only God for it. There's only seven days.

1189
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1190
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 9: So you you doing how yeah?

1191
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: How are you doing forty shows in a week? Let

1192
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: me show you.

1193
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 5: So when I got to New York City, I remember

1194
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: it was a Tracy Morgan and some other cats, and

1195
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 5: they were like, y'all. I said, hey, because in Chicago

1196
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 5: we would do you get.

1197
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: Me out six or seven shows a week?

1198
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1199
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: Said what of? They? And I got. I got to

1200
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: New York, I did a show with I was in Harlem.

1201
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: I did one show. They was like, yo, were about

1202
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: to go. I said, we're all going now, Oh, the

1203
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: show's in Brooklyn. Are you coming? You got more shows? Hell?

1204
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, boom. I hit about five stages that same night.

1205
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 5: And I said, this is how y'all do it? They say, hey,

1206
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 5: oh yeah, we do multiple. The average comedian in New

1207
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: York and I don't know if this is perfect math

1208
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: does about between four to seven shows a night stage time.

1209
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 5: We got a lot of stages, We got a lot.

1210
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 5: Shout out to the comedy seller. That's my spot, comedy

1211
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 5: seller in New York City. But I was doing five

1212
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 5: shows a night, about five shows a night on the weekdays.

1213
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 5: Then on the weekends I do a eight or nine,

1214
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 5: eight or nine shows.

1215
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be me.

1216
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 5: Patrise, O'Neil, Bill Burr, you know, Keith Robinson.

1217
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: It was all of us.

1218
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 5: Wanda Sykes, Wanda Sykes Hall when I knew Wanda Sykes Hall.

1219
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: Yeah one is the best, but we were. That's how

1220
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 5: you did it. You just ran all over the city

1221
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: and there was sometimes there'll be a club down the

1222
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: block so you can go on stage there, you go

1223
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 5: over there, hit that.

1224
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1225
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 5: So I would start at about seven am and seven

1226
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: pm and then ended around three am. So I was

1227
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 5: doing comedy and this is consistent. There's no breaks. This

1228
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 5: is consistent.

1229
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: Shit.

1230
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: Comedy takes that much work. It's really a sport. It's

1231
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 5: a sport. You gotta go out there and you gotta

1232
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: put the reps in period, and you can't cheat it.

1233
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't give fuck who you are. You can't cheat.

1234
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: It is that how you get good at the craft.

1235
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: You god damn right, and then you and you know

1236
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: what's funny is when you're on stage, they see the difference.

1237
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: They see the difference, they see the wordplay, they see

1238
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 5: the transition. You get those nuances. As you stay on

1239
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 5: stage a lot, you have to I don't know. Somebody

1240
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 5: told me it was a young common said no, one day,

1241
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 5: they're gonna be able to skip steps in comedy. I said,

1242
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 5: just because you get on a TV show faster than

1243
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 5: a veteran, don't mean you're good at it.

1244
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: Because I'm not trying to be an asshole.

1245
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 5: But a lot of these companies are skipping a lot

1246
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 5: of comedians that are ready.

1247
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of because people ask me, when are

1248
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 3: you getting your next go on Netflix?

1249
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: But I said, they don't really approach me. They don't

1250
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 5: really a lot, not just me, but they don't approach

1251
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: a lot of us. They they've been given specials to

1252
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: people that don't even have an hour. You can tell

1253
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 5: somebody ain't ready by the way they edit it. You go, oh,

1254
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: that motherfucker started bombing at fifteen minutes. That motherfucker started

1255
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: bombing at twenty. They're not because comedy takes. Yeah, you

1256
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 5: have to be ready, you have to put your time in,

1257
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 5: and the people that are ready are like, hey, I'm

1258
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: ready for a special.

1259
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: They're not. That's why a.

1260
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: Lot of people are putting their shit up on I'm

1261
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 5: sorry you tootube example, Ali Sadik. If you ain't watched

1262
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: Domino Effects. You're out of your damn mind. Domino Effect one,

1263
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 5: two and three. He just put three. He's all on

1264
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: It's all on YouTube, right, It's all on YouTube. This

1265
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: guy has been ignored. He had a chance to get

1266
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 5: he's been ignored, but he's putting it counting on yourself.

1267
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: You got Andrew Schultz, There's Shane Gillis. There's a whole

1268
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: bunch of guys putting shit up on YouTube. That's what

1269
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to do. Oh and by the way, Shannon,

1270
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: I'm starting to go fund me. Yeah, that's right. I'm

1271
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: starting to go fund me to raise money to do

1272
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 5: my own special. Yes, man, I'm not gonna.

1273
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: What why why bull driving, I'm not.

1274
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: I'm raising my Listen, go fund me, go to go

1275
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: fund me, Godfree special.

1276
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm raising money for real.

1277
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: I'm taking donations, no different than a church and a preacher.

1278
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 5: I'm taking donations because Jesus wants it. But yeah, I'm

1279
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: raising my own money. I've been offered some money because listen,

1280
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 5: to do a special. It's a big it's budgets. Can

1281
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 5: you can go from one hundred thousand to two hundred

1282
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 5: thousand depends Netflix pays for all that.

1283
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: Amazon pays for all that.

1284
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 5: But if they're not coming to me and coming to

1285
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: some of the other people, I gotta I gotta raise

1286
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: money on my own and then it'll be mine and

1287
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 5: I can own it.

1288
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't know, But so

1289
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: that's what's going on.

1290
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 5: There's a lot of comedians, men and women that are

1291
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 5: being ignored. I got you got great comedians like Yaminic Sanders,

1292
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: you got Marina Franklin, you got a lot of great people,

1293
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 5: my man Dante Niro, you got Reuben Paul, you got

1294
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 5: a lot of great comedians, Tony Rock. You got a

1295
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 5: lot of great comedians that are really putting in the

1296
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 5: work and are ready to do one, two three list

1297
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 5: goal is I mean, listen, They've given specials to the

1298
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 5: same people every time I see the same people, which.

1299
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: Some of them do deserve it. I go, yeah, I

1300
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: get why, But man.

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people just waiting on their first one,

1302
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 5: and then they're giving it to people who have been

1303
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 5: doing comedy two years.

1304
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 6: Bullshit?

1305
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 3: This bullshit? How has social media helped or hurt comedy?

1306
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: Listen, there's okay, I think it's fifty to fifty.

1307
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: It's hurt comedy as far as there.

1308
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 5: I believe this is my I believe there's a lot

1309
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: of bums in comedy, a lot of mediocre bombs in

1310
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 5: comedy because of social media, because they're seeing Okay, I

1311
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 5: had a friend called me the other day.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen him since college.

1313
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: He was like a more of a business guy, corporate

1314
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 5: and when I started college, No, not call him, sorry,

1315
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: facebook me that shit. Okay, right, No, he actually called

1316
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 5: me because I had given my number a few years ago.

1317
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: Then he goes, yo, I want I need to call you.

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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: I need to talk to you. I was like, talking

1319
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Speaker 3: to me about.

1320
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Speaker 5: What you know? And I know what he does. He's

1321
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 5: a corporate guy. So when I was doing my comedy

1322
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: being broken shit, he goes, how's that little comedy thing

1323
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 5: you're doing? Oh yes, they would say that, how's that

1324
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 5: a little comedy thing? I say, man, I'm just doing it. Man,

1325
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: come to a show. They would never come because boom,

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01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 5: those are the kind of guys that go see the

1327
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 5: more famous guys.

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Speaker 3: I won't come to your ship. I said. Cool. So

1329
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: now years later he goes, yo, you.

1330
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Speaker 5: Know I've been writing like comedy this, you know, I

1331
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 5: was thinking about and I said, why.

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Speaker 3: What do you for?

1333
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: What?

1334
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: Why why are you word? We're older?

1335
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 5: Now, why are you thinking about comedy? I said, in

1336
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 5: my head, he's been watching social media. He goes, well,

1337
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 5: I've been watching a lot of video, so now you

1338
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 5: think it's easy.

1339
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 10: Ah.

1340
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 5: That's the only thing I think social media has done

1341
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: is they make it look like it's fucking easy.

1342
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 9: YouTube tutorials. That's like this, Hi, welcome. How to be

1343
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 9: a tight end? It's so easy. How to be the

1344
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 9: tight end? Really, it's the same.

1345
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: You can know.

1346
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: You gotta show up the practice, and you gotta put

1347
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: the fucking reps in. I'm promising you because when I

1348
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 5: first started doing comedy, I was funny.

1349
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: I was funny. It was me.

1350
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 5: It was Corey Holcomb, who was another funny, crazy bastards.

1351
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: Corey Holcomb. Yeah, Corey Hocum, who I brought into the game.

1352
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 5: By the way, you guys can thank me for Corey

1353
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: Holcomb because I brought him to the Amateur Knight. I

1354
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 5: brought him the Amateur Knight, made him do comedy because

1355
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 5: I've known the system. I was a teenager, and he's

1356
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 5: always been a very very very funny man. Yeah, you

1357
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 5: gotta put in the reps. And we were all funny

1358
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 5: at the beginning. D Ray Davis was all funny. We

1359
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 5: didn't have the jokes yet, you know, we didn't have

1360
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 5: nothing to say, but we had funny quips here and there.

1361
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 5: It takes years to get your voice in comedy. It's

1362
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 5: ten years, ten years.

1363
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm get a fuck.

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 5: Here's here's an example. I was sitting with Seinfeld, Yes,

1365
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 5: I said it. I was sitting with Seinfeld. He was

1366
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: doing a documentary called Comedian. I'm in that documentary. This

1367
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 5: is when he was making his comeback after seinfeldt. He

1368
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 5: was coming back to comedy. So he would come to

1369
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 5: the comedy seller and hang out with me and hang

1370
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 5: out with all of us. And one day he asked

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 5: me how long you've been doing comedy? I said, and

1372
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 5: I stuck my chest. I said, nah, about nine years now,

1373
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: going on ten. He's like, okay, you're a nine year

1374
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 5: old in comedy. Then that's your comedy age. Always remember that,

1375
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 5: that's your age in comedy. I never forgot that. My

1376
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 5: age in comedy is about twenty seven years now. Yeah,

1377
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 5: I've been doing it almost thirty years, you know what

1378
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 5: I mean? And I see I see why it takes

1379
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: so long, because it's effortless for me now. But I

1380
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: still see the difficulty in it because I can do

1381
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 5: one hour or now I gotta do a whole different around.

1382
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: When you see Chris Rock, Chris Rock is a technician.

1383
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: He'll go in, come in in the comedy club, work

1384
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 5: on his shit, work on it shit. Seinfeld does the

1385
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 5: same shit. Ray Romonod still comes in. These guys are multimillionaires,

1386
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 5: but because it's a craft, because the.

1387
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: Comedy is always better than you.

1388
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 5: I always comedy is always better than you because you

1389
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: always got to reduce something, You always got.

1390
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: A story to tell.

1391
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 5: You never if you get to con a lot. And

1392
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 5: that's another thing about social media. It's making these motherfuckers cocky.

1393
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: They come around thinking because he man, I got it

1394
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 5: ten million followers. I go, well, you gotta follow me tonight. Wow, shit,

1395
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 5: we'll see what that shit does to you. Okay, buddy,

1396
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: you know, I know like glad that you have ten million.

1397
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: I'm glad you got your little sock puppet thing. Good

1398
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 5: for you, but we're about to do the real shit.

1399
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 5: And good luck following me. But you know it takes

1400
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 5: and listen, you know these these younger cats that come in,

1401
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 5: they can't help when they were born. They were born

1402
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 5: in the social media phase. But I try to tell them, dog,

1403
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 5: doing a sketch is different than.

1404
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 10: Stand up these lord, I'm telling you be careful because

1405
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 10: you're in a time continue when you're on stage and

1406
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 10: people done paid their money, they done sent their kids

1407
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 10: a babysitter, and.

1408
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 5: Motherfucker's are sitting there like this, all right, motherfucker, she

1409
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 5: is one hundred dollars the goddamn ticket.

1410
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: Man, it better be there be some hot hos and

1411
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: this mom fummer real shit.

1412
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 5: And so you got an hour, And what if the

1413
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 5: dude before you just did a hot thirty in front

1414
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 5: of you, that the feature that smoked it.

1415
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: Now you gotta do your shit.

1416
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's a real It's the hardest form of entertainment. Comedy,

1417
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: which gets no respect, barely wins awards. Comedy is the hardest.

1418
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: You know why.

1419
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: You know why people heckle. You know why people heckle

1420
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 5: shattering because everybody has a sense of humor. You make

1421
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 5: somebody laugh. People over here, make somebody laugh. You was

1422
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 5: funny at the barbecue, You was funny at the water cooler, right,

1423
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 5: everybody's funny.

1424
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: You were even funny on the field. You used to

1425
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 3: talk shit on the field. I did. You did a commercial.

1426
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: I remember the commercial.

1427
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 5: That you did.

1428
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: You'd be like, Yo, what you gonna do?

1429
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 6: Man?

1430
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 5: It was a commercial, so that's funny. But people go, okay,

1431
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: Well I make people laugh. There's a man or a

1432
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 5: woman on stage making people laugh. But I'm funny too,

1433
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 5: So I'm not even gonna show you respect. You go

1434
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 5: to the opera. Ain't nobody talking, are they? You go

1435
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 5: to the opera. I go to the opera. I'm cultured.

1436
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 8: You go to the opera and someone's like, man, sitting

1437
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 8: that shit, and he'd be like, yo, no, you're not

1438
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 8: gonna say that because you don't have a sense of opera.

1439
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: You go to the ballet. I've been to the ballet. Shit.

1440
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: I go to that shit, you know, and nobody says, man,

1441
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: that girl flexible than the motherfucker. Right. You know why

1442
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 3: that do balls out? Yo?

1443
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: You know saying you because you have a respect, because

1444
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 5: it's something you can't do.

1445
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: But for some reason, comedy is that one art form

1446
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: where everybody feels they're your equal.

1447
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 5: Even the comedians have been doing it two years deep

1448
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 5: through your equal and I don't like it. I think

1449
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 5: comedy should be like the army. Like that's what I

1450
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 5: love about the armed forces. I'm a general, you're a

1451
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 5: fucking cadet. You stand at attention when I walk in.

1452
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 5: When I see George Wallace, I just saw. I just

1453
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 5: did a show with our Sinio Hall, by the way,

1454
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 5: one of the nicest men ever. Man, I've never met

1455
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 5: our city. Our city was a fucking legend. But people

1456
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 5: don't understand our senior. I went, He goes, and he goes, Godfrey, Man,

1457
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: good seeing your brother. I've been watching you, you know

1458
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 5: how his figure?

1459
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 9: He said, Godfrey, I've been watching you.

1460
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like Godfrey.

1461
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 5: He goes, I've been watching you since the pandemic. And

1462
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 5: I said, I gotta salute you. You're a general, man,

1463
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 5: you're a five star.

1464
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: We gotta like rank and file has to happen. It's

1465
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: like in the rookie you know. I you know, I

1466
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: walked on the team in Illinois. I did on a dare.

1467
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: I did it because I was doing trying to do

1468
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 5: track and field and I wasn't really sure. And then

1469
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 5: this dude named Marlon Primus. I'm saying his name Marlon Primus.

1470
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 5: He came up with Henry Jones. So this dude was

1471
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 5: so talented. He played our free seat, was our free safety.

1472
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 5: Six foot four, could throw the ball a mile because

1473
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 5: sometimes we'd be on the field just fucking around practicing,

1474
01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: and he could throw.

1475
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: I said, my god, man, you can throw. He could punt.

1476
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 5: I go, how come you're not a quarterback? He goes,

1477
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 5: because in Illinois didn't want any black quarterbacks. They kept

1478
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 5: all the white. They converted all the black dudes into

1479
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 5: defensive guys.

1480
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: And he said, And he was from La so.

1481
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 5: He'd be like, yo, cuz he's like, you should you

1482
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 5: should try out, because I dare you try. So I

1483
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 5: tried out and I made the team. Didn't start. I

1484
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 5: was the meat squad, but hell I was a mun

1485
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 5: I made it. I made the team. I made the squad.

1486
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 5: I was on there for like three years.