1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. You're listening to the 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Balance of Power podcast. Catch us live weekdays at 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: noon and five pm Eastern on Apple Coarckley and Android 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen on demand wherever 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, or watch us live on YouTube. 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on the Thursday edition. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: They just wrapped the Cabinet meeting at the White House 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: one hour and twenty minutes, not the two hour plus 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: or even the three hour plus romp that we've seen 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: in meetings past. There were some differences, beginning with no questions. 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Presspool was brought in. We heard from a number of 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: cabinet officials with one big exception, but no questions were 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: taken by the President or any of the other officials 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: in the room. Tyler Kendall, Bloomberg Washington correspondent, joins us 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: now ahead of our conversation with Congressman Gregory Meeks. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: Is going to be with us in just a moment here, with. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: A lot to talk about a potential government shutdown on 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: the menu for tomorrow, and big questions about the future 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: of homeland security funding. Tyler's with us in our Washington 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: Bureau an hour and twenty minutes, no questions. 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Also no Nome. Yeah, Christy Nome was never called up right. 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: That seems to be pretty shocking, or maybe not shocking 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: at all, considering she seems to be the cabinet member 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: who has been most in the news recently after we 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: saw this recent reshuffling on the ground in Minneapolis, we 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: saw the borders are sent in Tom Homan replacing. 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 5: The Chief of. 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: Border Patrol Bovino, And even though that's not directly Christy Noam. Instead, 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: what was sort of the underlying here is that Homan 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: is going to report to Trump, not to the DHS secretary, 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: So it appears to have been pulling her back after 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: what happened in Minnesota. Still, the President has maintained that 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: he has full confidence in her. He's been asked directly 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: whether or not she's going to leave her posts, even 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: as we've heard what's been an increased outcry on Capitol Hill, 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: including some Senate Republicans like Tom Tillis Lisa Murkowski, saying 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: that she ultimately should vacate that position. But as of now, 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: he's standing firm. But perhaps that was by design. I 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 4: don't I think that probably would have been one of 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: the questions if reporters had been afforded that opportunity. 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's for sure, and I'm sure they would 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: have asked about the potential for a shutdown tomorrow as well. 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 3: The President did say though that nobody wants to shut 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: down and he's working with Democrats. 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: That was about all we got there. 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: As we look at the guidance today from the White House, 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: there's one big event at the end of the day, Tyler, 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: and that's the premiere of the Millenia documentary. This is 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: going to take place, I believe, at what we used 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: to call the Kennedy Center, the President First Lady. But 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: the list, the guest list is remarkable. Beyond those who 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: were in the Cabinet room, Jordan Belfort, the Wolf of 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: Wall Street. Reportedly, Eric Adams will be there, Gianna Infantino's 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: got to be there, Doctor Phil Who else do we expect? 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: I also saw the rapper walka flocka Flame is going 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: to be there as well. We know that this is 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 4: something that the President has been looking forward too. He's 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: talking about it a lot. He himself is going to 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: appear at the Kennedy Center as they try to promote 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: this movie and perhaps Milania's position in the administration, as 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: we haven't heard as much from her perhaps this year, 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: but she has taken on some initiatives. Of course, we 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: know her be best campaign when it comes to cyber bowling, 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: and also her efforts when it comes to the Russian 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: Ukraine War and helping those Ukrainian children that were taken 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: from her home. So it'll be interesting to see what 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: her comments are focused on ahead of this release of 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: this movie. 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: I guess the after parties are going to be quite 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: the story tomorrow with the latest on Waka flocka Flame. 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: That is Tyler Kendall Bloomberg Washington Correspondent, Because well it's 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, I'm Joe Matthew and Washington and thank 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: you for being with us here on Balance of Power 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: Thursday edition. 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: As we count down to what. 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: Will probably be a partial shutdown, but maybe not. 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: A very long one. 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: There's a deal reportedly in the works between Chuck Schumer 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: and Don Trump that would help to avoid this from 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: being longer than a couple of days. If DHS is 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: stripped out of the six bill package put in place 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: a cr follow up next week when the House comes 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: back with a new bill that would put restrictions on 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: ice beginning with body cameras and new training. 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: That's at least where we are now. 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 3: That may not come to fruition, but the President seem 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: pretty optimistic about it, and reports would suggest the same. 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Gregory Meeks, the Congressman from New York, joins us right now, 89 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee who 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: is in the throes of this debate right now with 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: a unique perspective as the top Democrat on foreign affairs. Congressman, welcome, 92 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: it's great to have you back on Bloomberg tvanradio. Did 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: I just describe a likely scenario when you come back 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: next week with your colleagues, Will you have a new 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: bill to vote on for DHS. 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 6: Well, I surely hope. 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: So. 98 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 7: I think nobody really wants to shut down, but we 99 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 7: cannot continue with the bill that was sent over to 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 7: the Senate from the House. So I hope that they 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 7: sent up Republicans and the President works with Senator Schumer 102 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 7: so that we have a new bill number one that 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 7: the DHS funding is out of the other sixth bills, 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 7: of which we had basically some bipartisan agreements so we 105 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 7: can make sure that there are changes in the DH bill. 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 6: What you said is right. 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 7: We want to end roving patrols and have some enforce 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 7: and accountability. We want to make sure that there's an 109 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 7: increased transparency. We get rid of no judicial warrants, no 110 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 7: mask you know, we can't wear a mask. 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: So I think that if that. 112 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 7: Kind of dialogue and conversation is taking place, and I 113 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 7: hope that that Senator Thune works with Senator Schumer to 114 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 7: pass a bill with those kinds of things in them, 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 7: then we will be able to vote on a new 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 7: bill when we get back on Monday. 117 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: I guess the question is will it pass the House, 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: because you know well that there are some strong objections 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: in the Freedom Caucus in another quarters of the Republican conference. 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: But Congressman Meeks, today we saw Ron Johnson, Tommy Tubberville, 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: Mike Lee, Ted budd and Ran Paul all vote against 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: the bill that was brought to the floor, this procedural vote. 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: What does that tell you about a likely passage in 124 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: the House. 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 6: Well, I think that it should pass. 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 7: All we really need in the House is three to 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 7: four Republicans to vote with us, and if they see 128 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 7: that some of the Republican senators you know, will stand 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 7: and do the right thing. 130 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 6: That should give them the coverage to do the same thing. 131 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 7: Also, look, the situation as we see with reference to 132 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 7: ICE is completely out of control. You know, you know, 133 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 7: accountability is not an option, it's a requirement. And Congress 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 7: has that requirement of making sure that we are holding 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 7: individual who's accountable. 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 6: And so I think that's what is as stink. 137 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 7: That's not even a Democrat or a Republican issue. It 138 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 7: is basically standing for doing the right thing when we 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 7: see American citizens being gunned down in the streets by 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 7: ICE agents. 141 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: We talked with Robin Kelly a couple of days ago, 142 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: Congressmen who has drafted articles of impeachment for Christy nom 143 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: that I believe you have co sponsored, you have signed 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: on to. Where does that effort stand. Is her removal 145 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: one of your demands for a deal? 146 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 6: Well? 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean it's critical you see an individual who 148 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 7: is not ready. 149 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 6: You know, she's never been ready for the job that 150 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 6: she has. 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 7: When you make the kind of statements that she made 152 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 7: immediately after both the shootings of Reneate Good as well 153 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 7: of as Alex pretty without any evidence, but other than 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 7: what your actual eyes have seen that took place. 155 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: It just shows that she needs to be gone. 156 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 7: And so, you know Donald Trump used to talk about, 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 7: you know, in his reality TV days, et cetera, you're fired. 158 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 6: So either he says you're fired. 159 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 7: Or we should continue to move forward with a motion 160 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 7: to impeach her because she clearly is not the right 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 7: person for that job. 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: Well, you've been around Washington for a minute, Congressman, what 163 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: did you make of the fact that the president didn't 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: call on her just now was an hour and twenty 165 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: minute long cabinet meeting, no questions, and of all the 166 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: cabinet officials he asked to speak, she was not one 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: of them. Does that tell us anything about her standing? 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 6: Well? I think that it does. 169 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 7: It also tells us, though, that the president is not 170 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 7: being transparent either. We need to have transparency, transparency from 171 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 7: the president of the United States of America. You know, 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 7: some of this that's taking place doesn't have clean hands 173 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 7: in this. You know, when you look at how and 174 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 7: what he has said about people in Minnesota, why he 175 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 7: sent three four thousand troops there to call this surge, 176 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 7: He in the language that he uses in regards to 177 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 7: many of the citizens there how he's attacked its governor, 178 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 7: its mayor. He is the one that set the stage 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 7: for what took place, and in my mind, I I 180 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 7: is similar to how he set the stage to what 181 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 7: took place on January the sixth. 182 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 6: They're one and the same. 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: So her standings should be, you know, in jeopardy. But 184 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 7: we've seen, unfortunately this White House, those that have attacked 185 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 7: law enforcement officers, you know, in January sixth, he's pardoned them, 186 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 7: and in this case, those who are killing innocent American 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 7: citizens and how you know, even if you look at 188 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 7: how they are going after, for example, five year old 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 7: lamb Ramos, that's not what the American people want. 190 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: That's not what we stand for. You know. 191 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 7: We want to make sure you going after criminals, those 192 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 7: who have been. 193 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: Convicted of felons. We want them gone. That's what the 194 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 6: people want it. 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 7: And I want to be quite frank, I think there's 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 7: no partisanship therein but to do what he has done, 197 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 7: set the stage that he has and then trying to 198 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 7: hide behind it is not what we need from a 199 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 7: president of the United States. 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 6: But we do need him to stand up. 201 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 7: If you really mean something, want to really show you something, 202 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 7: fire Christy Norman fire A. 203 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Now, wow, Congressman, there are a couple of things I 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: want to get to you with our remaining time here 205 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: as ranking member on House Foreign Affairs. What are you hearing? 206 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: What do you want to see happen with Iran? The President, 207 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: as he says, has put a massive flotilla, another massive 208 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: armada he's characterized larger than what was put off the 209 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: coast of Venezuela. 210 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: Are we about to strike Iran again? 211 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 7: Look, if the president fails there's an imminent threat to 212 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 7: the people of the United States and or there's a 213 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 7: real need to have a military strike in Iran, he 214 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 7: should come to Congress first, give us that information so 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 7: that we can make authorization on the utilization of military. 216 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: Force and or a War Powers Act. 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 7: So, if in fact that's the case, UH, and as 218 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 7: well as I think it is tremendously important to make 219 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 7: sure that we're talking to all of our allies in 220 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 7: the region, because they are ones that are in direct 221 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 7: danger other kind of activity that Iran may Y may 222 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 7: do in retaliation. So I would also make sure that 223 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 7: we're in close dialogue and conversation, and I would want 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 7: to hear that with the UH Saudi Arabians, with Israel, 225 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 7: with the Jordanians, that they all are affected by that 226 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 7: uh and and and making sure also that we're not 227 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 7: undermining the people that we want to help, because very 228 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 7: clearly we stand with those brave Iranians who are fighting 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 7: for freedom within their own country. This did not happen 230 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 7: because of the United States or the United States urging. 231 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 7: This happened by an organic group of Iranians who are 232 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 7: proud and strong and tired of their authoritarian type government 233 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 7: that's been ripping off. 234 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: The people for a long period of time. 235 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 7: And so what does this mean to them and how 236 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 7: that apparts All that has to be looked at and 237 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 7: considered before there's a strike. 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: Well, that's a lot to consider, and if it takes 239 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: place in the coming days, Congressmen, we'd like to talk 240 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: with you about it. 241 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: Let's go local before you leave us. 242 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: You've got a new mayor in New York City and 243 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: he's calling for higher taxes on the rich to address 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: what he describes as a fiscal crisis for his city. 245 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: Do you support that effort? 246 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 7: But look, what I support is let's try to figure 247 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 7: out how we make things more affordable. 248 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 6: There's got to be ways of which we're talking about this. 249 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 7: I think that there's some areas of where individuals be 250 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 7: ready to step up and do their fair share. So 251 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 7: I'm not talking about broad taxes that would be placed 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 7: on or certain individuals. The Governor of New York has 253 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 7: clearly stated that she does not want to raise taxes, 254 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 7: and I understand that we don't want to run people 255 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 7: out of the City of New York. 256 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 6: That's not what this is about. 257 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 7: We would need some of the resources that the federal 258 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 7: government had been sitting to New York that the President 259 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 7: of the United States started to say, punish New York 260 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 7: and not have. 261 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 6: Delivered those resources. 262 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 7: So there's a number of ways I think that we 263 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 7: can cut into that deficit and not have to raise taxes. 264 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: Okay, well so two percent, another two percent on people 265 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: making more than a million dollars a year as a 266 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: non starter, Yeah, I think. 267 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 6: That right now. 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 7: I'm with the governor, which who says that we're not 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: going to raise taxes. We're not going to taste people 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: out of the City of New York. We're going to 271 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 7: figure out how we can work together to collectively make 272 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 7: things more affordable. And the first way to do that 273 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: is the president stop these tariffs that he is continuing 274 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 7: to implement around the world that's driving these prices up. 275 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to mention an important stop on the 276 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: road today on Bloomberg TV and Radio. We're going to 277 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: be hearing from Mayor Mom Donnie in the late edition 278 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: of Balance of Power five pm, Wall Street Time. 279 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: His sit down conversation. 280 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: With Bloomberg's Miles Miller will loom large in our coverage 281 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: this evening, and I hope that you will be here 282 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 3: for us when that takes place later on. FED independence 283 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: is also on the menu in Washington right now, Congressman Meeks, 284 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: the President just said in the cabinet meeting that he 285 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: will announce his pick for a FED share next week. 286 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 7: What are you anticipating, Well, look, this president seems to 287 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: be wants to be a king. He wants to be 288 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: a able to control of the FED and not have 289 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 7: it as an independent board to make its decisions based 290 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 7: upon the economy and what it believes is the appropriate 291 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 7: way to. 292 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: Move to move. 293 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 7: So I would hope the President is free to choose 294 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 7: whoever he wants to to to be. 295 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 6: On the board. 296 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 7: But you know the kinds of acts, you know, I 297 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 7: would hope that we don't have someone who just wants 298 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 7: to brother stamp whatever the President says and does for 299 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 7: political purposes. One of the things that has been most 300 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 7: important by the FED is their independence so that they 301 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: can make a decision based upon the economic totality of 302 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 7: which they have to deal with. And so that is 303 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 7: what sustained us and why others would have invested in 304 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 7: the United States because of that kind of sustainability and independence. 305 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 7: And I would hope that the President would we will 306 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 7: continue or the fan will continue in that manner. 307 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, I know that that's important to he is a 308 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: member of the Financial Services Committee. Is long as Tom 309 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: Tillis is stopping things down in the Senate, this could 310 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: be a longer conversation. Congressman, it's great to see you 311 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: and thank you for joining us as always on Bloomberg. 312 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: That's Gregory Meeks, Democrat from New York's fifth and ranking 313 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. We'll assemble our 314 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: panel next for their take on all of this as 315 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: we count down to what likely will be another short 316 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: and partial shutdown. Stay with us on balance of power. 317 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: We'll have much more coming up after this. 318 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Bloomberg Balance of Power podcast. Catch 319 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: us live weekdays at noon and five pm Eastern on 320 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Almacarckley and Android Auto with the Bloomberg Business App. Listen 321 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: on demand wherever you get your podcasts, or watch us 322 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: live on YouTube. 323 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming along today Thursday edition. We have news. 324 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: The bills failed, which should come as no surprise if 325 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: you listened to this program. This was the combined six 326 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: bill minibus as we call it, including the Department of 327 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: Homeland Security. Right, each agency gets its own bill. This 328 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: is how we keep the government from closing. This six 329 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: bill package though failed because of that one bill. And 330 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: there's a deal in the works, supposedly reportedly, and the 331 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: President acknowledged it today, says he is working with Democrats, 332 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: that's between Chuck Schumer and Donald Trump to craft another 333 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: other bill that would be voted on presumably next week 334 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: when the House gets back, that would put restrictions on 335 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: ice enforcement, body cameras, training, and the rest. We've been 336 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: talking about this now for days. So if they put 337 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: a cr on DHS, let's get to the alphabet soup. 338 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: We avoid a shutdown. 339 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: Actually, the other agencies will be made whole and the 340 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: next week the restrictions would follow. That's the perfect case scenario. 341 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: And when we heard from John Thune, of course, the 342 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: Republican leader, the majority leader in the US Senate, yesterday, 343 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: he gave us his take on these possible negotiations. 344 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 8: Listen, a government shutdown is not in anybody's interest. If 345 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 8: there are things that the Democrats want that the administration 346 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 8: can agree with them about, then let's do that. 347 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 9: This is not border security, this is not law and order. 348 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 9: This is chaos. Senate Democrats are united on a set 349 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 9: of common sense and necessary policy goals that we need 350 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 9: to rein in ice and end the violence. 351 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: Fun and Schumer. 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: We already heard from Trump in eight hour and twenty 353 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: minute long cabinet meeting, so let's assemble our panel for 354 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: their take. Republican strategist Mara Gillespie is with us from 355 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: Bluestack Strategies, and Democratic strategist Arshi Sidiki is with us 356 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: as well, with me here in studio, founder CEO of 357 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: Bellweather Government Affairs. 358 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: It's great to see you both. Both of you. 359 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 3: I should note work for former Speakers r She worked 360 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: for Nancy Pelosi and Mara worked for John Bahner. So 361 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: we're going to get the view from the Speaker's office, 362 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: which will be the center of the political universe next week. Mora, 363 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: what does Mike john And need to prepare for knowing 364 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: that some members of his Republican conference, beginning in the 365 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Freedom Caucus do not want to see or rewrite of 366 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: DHS and they're already in no. 367 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 10: Well right now, He's also got to deal with the 368 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 10: logistic challenge, right I mean, members are not there in 369 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 10: the House. He is, but members are not in DC, 370 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 10: and so he's going to have to sort of sort 371 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 10: out how. 372 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 11: Many people he can get back by Monday. 373 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 10: People are on codell I believe he mentioned to some 374 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 10: reporters today that it is a numbers game and trying 375 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 10: to get people back on the Hill to do this 376 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 10: about Monday. So that's part of the challenge. I think 377 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 10: the other challenge is, you know how long a CR goes. 378 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 10: There are conversations being had right now in the Senate 379 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 10: between Republicans and Democrats who are disagreeing on the length 380 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 10: of a CR for DHS funding because they are concerned 381 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 10: about giving too much time to negotiate. And so I 382 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 10: do think that that will to your point about for 383 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 10: NEWCCUS members, that will dictate sort of how they land 384 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 10: on the issue. But by and large, I think Republicans 385 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 10: recognize that taking the DHS funding out of this and 386 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 10: making that SR is the best case scenario, in the 387 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 10: best path forward right now? 388 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: Is that the best case scenario for you? Are she 389 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: knowing that there'll be some time to negotiate in that world? 390 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: What would be inappropriate duration? Obviously, nobody's coming back from 391 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: the House this weekend. They're all encased in ice somewhere. 392 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: In fact, Mike Johnson told Bloomberg Government, we typically have 393 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: seventy two hour notice. We're waiting for the Senate to 394 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: take action to determine the course. So we're already into 395 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: next week. Funding lapses. Well, I guess in that one 396 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: agency or all I guess would be all six if 397 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: the House didn't get a chance to follow up on 398 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: that vote. 399 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: Is it week enough? Is it weeks? 400 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 11: Well? 401 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 12: I think two points one is? I mean, there could 402 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 12: be an exploration of a UC in the House. I mean, 403 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 12: as you know, the Speaker has quite a bit of 404 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 12: latitude on how he deals with the floor. 405 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: That would take a Christmas miracle, though, would it not? 406 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I think anything unanimous in the House right now. 407 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 12: Well, if all the members aren't back, that's one piece 408 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 12: and another piece is like all roads lead back to 409 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 12: Donald Trump. 410 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: And this deal is fairly straightforward. 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 12: In terms of these these protections, in terms of training, 412 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 12: background checks, et cetera. 413 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 5: So it is something that can be put together quickly. 414 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 12: I do think time is of essence, so a short 415 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 12: term cr makes sense, But too much time I don't 416 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 12: think helps move this process forward. 417 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: Are you encouraged by the Republicans who voted note today? 418 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 5: I think it was. I think it was a like. 419 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Lee, Tommy Tuberville. It's not just Ran Paul. Is the point? 420 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 421 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 12: And this all goes back to civil liberties and an 422 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 12: assault on constitutional protections, which is what we've seen on 423 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 12: the ground in Minnesota and actually in other instances across 424 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 12: the country. 425 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mara, how should Mike Johnson read that? When you 426 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: see the names of the ours who voted No, Ron Johnson, right, 427 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: not a moderate, Tommy Tuberville, Mike Lee, Ted Budd and yes, 428 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: Ran Paul. How does that help set your focus on 429 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: what might come from the Republican conference next door? 430 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 10: Well, it reminds him that the crux of the issues 431 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 10: are those are those constitutional shoes. And I do think 432 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 10: that you're also seeing a bit of the praying of 433 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 10: having given so much authority to the President and to 434 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 10: the White House in terms of things that should normally 435 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 10: be you know, decided by Congress and involving Congress and 436 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 10: conversations that require votes from Congressional input. And so you're 437 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 10: seeing that frustration and really the drawing of a line 438 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 10: in the sand here by some senators. 439 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 11: Who feel as though this is. 440 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 10: Going too far and they are going to clamor back 441 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 10: some of what they believe their constitutions are asking them 442 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 10: to do. I did think it does give him some 443 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 10: room to convince maybe some of his hardline members in 444 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 10: the House to point to those members and say, here's 445 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 10: what Senate you know, Temberroll did, Here's what Senate Senator 446 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 10: lead did, you know, kind of looked to them and 447 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 10: try and convince them to go with him on this 448 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 10: mini bus journey that they're now going on. And I 449 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 10: think that I'll help him steer the ship back to 450 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 10: where it needs to go. I do also think that 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 10: President Trump not taking questions at the end of that 452 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 10: cabinet meeting today signals to me that he is really 453 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 10: serious about having these conversations and nego she And that's 454 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 10: a positive because otherwise, you know, he would be lamenting 455 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 10: more or less to the press or trying to get 456 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 10: you know, set of Democrats to bend to his will. 457 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 10: But here it shows that he is actually making the 458 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 10: good faith effort to get a solution, and that's a 459 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 10: positive not only for Congress but for the American people. 460 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: That's a really smart observation. 461 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 13: Mora. 462 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: We can look at this a couple different ways. He 463 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: did not call on Christinome, and I'm sure there were 464 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: multiple reasons for that, but in an hour and twenty minutes, 465 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: to not go to questions means something. I mean, look, 466 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: this could have been a three hour long cabinet meeting 467 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: like we had a couple of months ago, with endless questioning. 468 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: He clearly doesn't want to spoil what's in the works here, huh. 469 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 12: I mean, I think the stakes are really high, and 470 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 12: we've seen two US citizens. I mean that's I mean, 471 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 12: we saw that over and over. It's playing on cable 472 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 12: TV constantly. So I think that that kind of goes 473 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 12: back to the issues and then we go back to 474 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 12: the constitutional protections. I mean, I think those Senate votes 475 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 12: do really indicate. I mean, we're talking about freedom of speech, 476 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 12: the right to actually protest peaceably, right to bear arms. 477 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 12: All of these issues are coming out in full force 478 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 12: on the streets. And then we haven't even talked about 479 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 12: the economic impacts of in terms of across the country, 480 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 12: what these indiscriminate raids are doing to folks who are 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 12: actually staying back at home, not working in hotels, restaurants, 482 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 12: all of that. 483 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: That's also a drag on the economy. 484 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what this all brings us back 485 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: to the state of Minnesota. We probably would not be 486 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: having this conversation if it were not for the shootings, 487 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: the fatal shootings in Minneapolis. And we've got pretty big 488 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 3: news on the governor's race there. First, it was a 489 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: shocker when Tim Wall says he was not running for reelection. Now, 490 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: as some saw it coming in the last couple of days, 491 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: Amy clovershar is going for it, the Senator announcing she 492 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: is running for governor of Minnesota, where of course this 493 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 3: entire story has been swirling. And she's up with a 494 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: video that's the way you do it now to announce 495 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: her candidacy. 496 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 13: Watch it, listen, I am running for this job, for 497 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 13: every person who wants their work recognized and rewarded, for 498 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 13: every Minnesotan who wants to buy their first home, for 499 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 13: every parent who wants a better world for their kids. 500 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 13: I'm running for everyone who wants more affordable healthcare, for 501 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 13: every student, farmer, dreamer, and builder. And I'm running for 502 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 13: every Minnesotan who wants ICE and its abusive tactics out 503 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 13: of the state we love. 504 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: What do you think of the presentation? Are she going 505 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: right for? 506 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 3: If you're listening on the radio, she's showing the streets 507 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: of Minneapolis at this difficult time, going right for the 508 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: issue that's driving this whole debate. 509 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 12: Well, I actually also think she meets the moment. You know, 510 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 12: you notice she's used the word every multiple times. So 511 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 12: it's not that she's going to represent Republicans or Democrats 512 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 12: or you know, just really focus on one group. She's 513 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 12: going to represent everybody in the state. And I think 514 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 12: that really reflects who she is as a legislator. She 515 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 12: you know, she is a fighter, but she's also a 516 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 12: pragmatist and she's experienced. So I think there are a 517 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 12: lot of good synergies and we need that kind of 518 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 12: spirit in Minnesota to bring people together rather than. 519 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: Tearing them apart. 520 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: So you like this idea, Minnesota back Kamala Harris over 521 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: President Trump by four percentage points in the presidential election. 522 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Mora, what's this race going to be like? 523 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting. 524 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 10: I don't know that it will make a big impact, 525 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 10: but something of note. 526 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 11: Just as a. 527 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 10: Congression former congressional staffer myself, she struggled in years past 528 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 10: with a poor reputation from staff members who both on 529 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 10: staff side and on the campaign, who accused her of 530 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 10: being a bit abusive as a boss and as a leader. 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 10: So it's going to be interesting because I imagine Republicans are 532 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 10: ready to gear that up and to put out some 533 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 10: campaign ads highlighting that. I don't know that it will 534 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 10: impact voters given the fact of what's going on in 535 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 10: Minnesota right now, but I do think that that's going 536 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 10: to be a. 537 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 11: Attack ad against her. 538 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 10: But you know, like I said, I don't know that 539 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 10: it will necessarily sway, you know, or derail her campaign anyway, 540 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 10: but it'll. 541 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 11: Come to light. 542 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: Remember the snowy announcement for the presidential campaign? Did this 543 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: go better? I mean, she could have done it a 544 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: couple of days ago. While it was really snowing outside. 545 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: She didn't go for the optics. 546 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: I guess no. 547 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 12: I think she picked the right moment, and she also 548 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 12: she recognized the gravity of what was going on on 549 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 12: the ground, right, So I think she waited and I 550 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 12: think the timing was appropriate. But I also think that 551 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 12: she is going to be able to bridge divides that 552 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 12: are so critical at this particular peak time. 553 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 554 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, we'll be following it very closely with the help 555 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 3: of our great panel r she Sidiki Bellweather, Mara Gillespie, Bluestack. 556 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your insights and a great 557 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: conversation today. 558 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Balance of Power podcast. 559 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already, at Apple, Spotify, 560 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts, and you can find 561 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: us live every weekday from Washington, DC at noontime Eastern 562 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: at Bloomberg dot com.