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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged, brought to you by DraftKings ooof

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals were some heat. But also on this

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Speaker 1: episode we have Devonte Friga, the owner or co owner

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Speaker 1: of the next chapter, which brought you the Michael Beasley

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Speaker 1: Lance Stevenson one on one game. So we'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: but before let's get to these finals. Man, Congratulations to

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder their first franchise championship, only the

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Speaker 1: first game seven since twenty seventeen. Congratulations. I mean you

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Speaker 1: think about this Oklahoma City team twenty twenty three, they

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Speaker 1: lost in the plan, they go to the second round

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Speaker 1: last year, get beat by Dallas. They're the best team

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Speaker 1: from start to finish this year and win a championship.

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Speaker 1: SGA his accolades were incredible this year. Obviously regular season MVP,

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Speaker 1: he just took the finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: Home shot the ball. Well.

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Speaker 1: This is arguably one of the best seasons ever for

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Speaker 1: by guard scoring champ sixty eight win team, First Team

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Speaker 1: All NBA Western Conference, Finals, MVP Finals, MVP Champion, MVP.

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Speaker 1: Not since Shack has someone cleaned house like he was

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Speaker 1: able to do the second youngest to do it, behind

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Speaker 1: Kareem who did it at the age of twenty three,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely incredible. This team has a very bright future,

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Speaker 1: very young team. We'll see Presse's Presty moves as the

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Speaker 1: puppet master behind the scenes praises later. But if you

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Speaker 1: look at this team, they're odds on favored at plus

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Speaker 1: two point fifty to repeat. Sga is going to break

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Speaker 1: the bank this summer, as he should, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: into what that contract looks like. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: got Jalen Williams who arrived on the scene and is

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Speaker 1: a great young talent. You got Check after battling so

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Speaker 1: many injuries, was able to you know, shake the injury

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Speaker 1: and do what he did. And then the role players

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Speaker 1: from lou Dort to Caruso to Wallace to Hartenstein, which

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Speaker 1: was paid handsomely. I think he got an eighty seven

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Speaker 1: million dollar deal this year. This team is set to

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Speaker 1: be in the mix for the next two to three

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Speaker 1: four years, and we'll talk about it in a little bit,

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Speaker 1: what it's going to mean to be able to keep

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Speaker 1: Hongrin and Jay Dubb when their contracts are up. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Presty though in the moves he's been able

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Speaker 1: to make this Oklahoma city team understanding being a small

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Speaker 1: market team. I think this is a picture for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the NBA on how to run your franchise.

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Speaker 1: I'm always obviously a hometown guy with Sacramento, and I

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Speaker 1: think ever since Jeff Petrie, they haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: figure the small town, the small market, small town team

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Speaker 1: situation up at Sam Presty over the years has built

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Speaker 1: tremendous tremendous first and foremost in the draft, which I

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Speaker 1: think you have to win, and then you have to

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Speaker 1: win in the draft, and then assets the way they've

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Speaker 1: been able to stockpile first round pick, second round pick exceptions.

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Speaker 1: But let's just go back over and give Sam his

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Speaker 1: flowers real quick. And it all started with the Paul

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Speaker 1: George for SGA trade, and I can clearly remember, and

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Speaker 1: I love PG, but I remember when this was going down,

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Speaker 1: Doc Rivers was not sold on giving up SGA and

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Speaker 1: that almost stopped the whole Kawhi even coming to the

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Speaker 1: Clipper situation because Doc saw early on shout out Doc

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Speaker 1: Rivers that Shay was going to be a superstar. But

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Speaker 1: we all know that Kawhi said, if he doesn't get PG,

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Speaker 1: he could have went down the hallway or down the

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Speaker 1: Old Hallway to the Lakers, and I don't think that

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Speaker 1: the Clippers wanted that to happen, so they pressed play

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Speaker 1: on the SGA trade and the rest is history. He

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Speaker 1: was able to get Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren in

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Speaker 1: the same draft, right. I want to say Chet went

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Speaker 1: number four, Jalen went number two, twelve, and that was

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Speaker 1: a big Obviously, Chet had a lot of hype around him,

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Speaker 1: but Jalen came from a smaller school, Santa Clara, and

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Speaker 1: they really did their homework on what type of player

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Speaker 1: on him. Again because Chet had a ton of hype,

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Speaker 1: but Jalen Williams again very solid college career. Didn't hear

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Speaker 1: a ton about him, with all due respect, but they

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Speaker 1: knew that at twelve that would be their guy. They

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Speaker 1: They gave Hartenstein eighty seven million this offseason. He was

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Speaker 1: have definitely used him this year on that front line

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Speaker 2: It's not the numbers.

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Speaker 1: The numbers don't jump off the page at you, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to do. He's one of those ultimate glue guys,

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Speaker 2: So he got paid.

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Speaker 1: They were able to get Caruso, which was a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: you could have had three guys on the All Defensive

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Speaker 1: team this year with Dort and Jay Dove and you

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Speaker 1: can add Caruso because to me, he's one of the

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Speaker 1: best on ball defenders. We saw it in the finals,

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Speaker 1: So they're able to get Payson Wallace as the tenth

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Speaker 1: obviously trading Giddy for Caruso. Let's take a look at

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Speaker 1: what they got to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Still, they have.

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Speaker 1: Some late first this week in the draft and some seconds,

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Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty six, they have Utah's first round pick,

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Speaker 1: top eight perspective protected. They also have Phillies top first

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Speaker 1: to twenty seven, they have the Nuggets top pick, first

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Speaker 1: still building up the so called farm system with assets

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Speaker 1: and opportunities. So Check and j Dubb both payment in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two draft will be on the final

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Speaker 1: year of their rookie contracts and to me, both those

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Speaker 1: guys fall into the mac extension situation. For these younger

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Speaker 1: players home are eligible to sign a five year get

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Speaker 1: this two hundred and forty seven million dollar extensions. The

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Speaker 1: total value could increase up to two ninety six if

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Speaker 1: an MVP All NBA All Defense, Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: If any of those things jump up, those are all kickers,

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Speaker 1: so that's an extra nearly fifty million dollars Stay can

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Speaker 1: make if and keep in mind Jay Dub was on

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Speaker 1: qualified and played more games. So them being able to

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Speaker 1: of the list for them this offseason after coming off

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Speaker 1: their first championship. First of all is party your motherfucking

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Speaker 1: asses off. I saw Jaden Williams on ESPN this morning

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Speaker 1: the right path with that. They got the parade coming up.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna go hard, blackout for a whole week, Go

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Speaker 1: take a vacation, get your mind and your body back together,

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Speaker 1: first order of business SGA, the MVP eligible is now

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Speaker 1: able to sign a four year, two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: according to Bobby Marks, would be sixty five zero point

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Speaker 1: second year, seventy six million his third year, and grab

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Speaker 1: your panties, eighty one point two million dollars in his

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Speaker 2: Right, So he'll.

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Speaker 1: Probably opt out of that eighty one and by the

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen one hundred million dollar deals within the

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Speaker 1: next five years, one hundred million per year for these

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Speaker 1: star players. So I mean, but I couldn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if tell me someone who deserves it more. Sga has rinded,

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Speaker 1: he stayed quiet, He's put the work in. He's quietly

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Speaker 1: led his team in a small market to the best

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Speaker 1: team in the league. He's a great leader from everything

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Speaker 1: I've seen. Everybody loves him and he produces. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we talked about what his numbers were this year as

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Speaker 1: far as his accolades. No one's done that since Shack.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations to first and foremost Shay for the championship

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Speaker 1: in the tremendous season. But your reward is well worth it.

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Speaker 1: And excited for you, my brother, continue with the great work.

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Speaker 1: In Sadder news, Tyrese Halliburton a guy who has done

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Speaker 1: everything right. He's for some reason, and I talk about

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Speaker 1: this in my group child my homies like it's is

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Speaker 1: he a superstar?

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Speaker 2: Is he a star?

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Speaker 1: There's so many different things to nitpick, but this guy

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Speaker 1: the most clutch player in NBA playoff history.

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Speaker 2: Let that sink in.

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Speaker 1: But also keep in mind he was voted the most

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Speaker 1: overrated player in the league going into the playoffs. And

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Speaker 1: although that's not and someone broke that down. I want

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Speaker 1: But still enough people felt that he was overrated that

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old. An Achilles injury again, very unfortunate,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a career under This used to be

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Speaker 1: an injury that would end people's careers. A lot of

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Speaker 1: guys have came back from it. I'm hoping Halle is

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Speaker 1: bigger debate, which has really been all over social media.

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Speaker 2: Why is all this happening?

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Speaker 1: There was only forty five Achilles tears from nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was one of those tears. But there's eight

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Speaker 1: Achilles tears alone in the twenty twenty five season, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen debates all over the place. We saw Cameron

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Speaker 1: come out and say, I know I'm the last niggat

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Speaker 1: to say stop being fashionable, but stop wearing these low

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Speaker 1: cut shoes and three quartercut shoes, please and thank you.

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Speaker 1: And not only than easy Sniper, easy money sniper. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant said, brother, this absolutely has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the injury. And my production team too, we're actually debating

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Speaker 1: think it has anything to do with the shoes. I

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Speaker 1: starts with grassroots basketball if you think about it. But

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Speaker 1: Big news. The season just ended. But the best thing

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Speaker 1: And to kick shit off, who better than Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: moving forward for the Los Angeles Lakers To take a

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Speaker 1: bolster this roster. So I think outside of Luca and Lebron,

433
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Speaker 1: anybody can possibly be packaged up and out of here.

434
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Speaker 1: So really interesting off season for the Lakers. Started off

435
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Speaker 1: with the boom by selling the team, but obviously you

436
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Speaker 1: know they're going to make a wave in the off

437
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Speaker 1: season this year, so definitely looking forward to seeing what

438
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Speaker 1: happens with that. The draft is right here, right around

439
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Speaker 1: the corner. June twenty fifth. The top five projected players

440
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Speaker 1: to go in the draft, in no particular order. Cooper

441
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: Flag had a great season at Dupe, Dylan Harper and

442
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Speaker 1: Ace Bailey to stud freshman at Rutgers vj Edgecomb at

443
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: A Baylor and Trey Johnson at Texas rounds out the

444
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Speaker 1: projected top five. But I want to know what's going

445
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Speaker 1: on in Ace Bailey's camp because I don't. But I'm

446
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of madness. And I'm also hearing outside

447
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: of him canceling workouts and allegedly, I say this, allegedly

448
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: again asking for money during team interviews. I don't know

449
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Speaker 1: if this is some nil residue, but I'm hearing that

450
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Speaker 1: Sharif Cooper's father, Amar Cooper, is his agent, and that's dangerous.

451
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes we've seen the father son duo work. Tobias Harris's

452
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Speaker 1: dad represents him and he's man. He's winning there and

453
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Speaker 1: got his bread. But what I'm hearing with A Bailey,

454
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Speaker 1: and even if some of these rumors aren't true, what

455
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Speaker 1: we know is true is the way he's blowing off

456
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Speaker 1: these teams. And this is a very copycat weird sports leagues.

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Speaker 2: We plan, you know we're hearing.

458
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Speaker 1: We were hearing rumbles with Shador Sanders and we saw

459
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Speaker 1: unfortunately what happened to him. He fell to the fifth round.

460
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Speaker 1: But now he's been the most consistent quarterback in in

461
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Speaker 1: Browns camp and we all know should have been a

462
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Speaker 1: top five, top ten at pick worst pick. So just

463
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Speaker 1: my whole, my whole thing to Ace man is you know.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: No one's bigger than the program. You're a very talented

466
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Speaker 1: young man and I wish you the absolute best. I

467
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Speaker 1: know you're going to have a successful career, but you

468
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Speaker 1: got to be tread lightly the way you're moving and

469
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Speaker 1: the information that's being spread, whether that's you, whether that's

470
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Speaker 1: your representation, because we just want to see you out there.

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Speaker 1: We want to see you get drafted, and we want

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Speaker 1: to see you have an amazing career. You're a tremendous

473
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Speaker 1: talent and we're all wishing the best for you. But

474
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: the outside bullshit is already starting to be loud, and

475
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: that's never a good sign for teams. That that stuff

476
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: that kind of stares scares teams away. But you are

477
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: so talented that I think they're probably gonna overlook that.

478
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: But once you get settled and drafted, fresh slate, spot

479
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: there and hoopball, be the best hooper you can. Don't

480
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: let the outside bullshit ever make more noise of what

481
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Speaker 1: you're doing on the court. One of the biggest stories

482
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: in basketball outside the NBA Finals has been the Lance

483
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Speaker 1: Stevenson versus Michael Beasley one on one matchup where the

484
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Speaker 1: winner took home one hundred thousand dollars put on by

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Speaker 1: the Next Chapter.

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Speaker 2: Today we have the co owner of the Next.

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Speaker 1: Chapter, one of the biggest basketball YouTubers in the business,

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Speaker 1: Devonte Friga.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, bro oh Man, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys having me on here. It's exciting,

491
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Speaker 2: no doubt. So.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, recently the one on one Beasley and Lance game

493
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Speaker 1: was a success, but what I found super interesting.

494
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Speaker 2: Was the way you guys were able to build the

495
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Speaker 2: lead up to it.

496
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Speaker 1: Obviously, the game did what it was supposed to do,

497
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Speaker 1: but I thought the lead up was very creative, especially

498
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: knowing both those guys and playing with both those guys

499
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Speaker 1: and knowing what kind of basketball minds they have and

500
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Speaker 1: what kind of shit talkers they were. Where did the

501
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: whole strategy of obviously the lead up to the game

502
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: come from.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, you see, like with UFC and with boxing and everything,

504
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: you have storylines.

505
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: And they all make sense.

506
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: See with Beasley and Lance outside of just their former

507
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: pros and we know who they are, we don't really

508
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: have that much of a storyline outside of you just

509
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: want to see this matchup, so you know, the next

510
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: chapter originated on YouTube. We've always been a YouTube channel

511
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: where a YouTube platform, and we don't want to take

512
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Speaker 3: away what we started in doing a game like this,

513
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Speaker 3: So we had the idea of building a natural storyline

514
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Speaker 3: by putting them head to head against each other as

515
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: coaches with some of the guys that were brought up

516
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Speaker 3: in the next chapter scene. So the idea was doing

517
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Speaker 3: a twenty plus episode series on our YouTube channel that

518
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: played out every Monday, Wednesday Friday with games of them

519
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: coaching players on the next chapter promoting the main Marquee

520
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: matchup or they are five undercards underneath of the Michael

521
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: Beasley Land Stevenson game and people that have played in

522
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: the season had a chance to be voted in as

523
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: undercards to the matchup. So everything that was aligned through

524
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: the promotion was all, you know, hand in hand and

525
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: the idea of just having them in front of each

526
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: other yelling at each other, you know what I mean,

527
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Speaker 3: competing whether they were on the court or not, they're

528
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Speaker 3: competing as coaches.

529
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Speaker 2: So the idea of doing that promo just helped build

530
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Speaker 2: a storyline.

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Speaker 3: You see them yelling at each other and each other's

532
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Speaker 3: faces for a three month period, and then obviously the

533
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: promo when we were there the week of with the

534
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Speaker 3: face offs, the press conferences, you know, going to the

535
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Speaker 3: studio sessions, and just trying to do the highest quality

536
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Speaker 3: that we can in promoting and telling the story and

537
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: also creating one too. So that's kind of a little

538
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Speaker 3: bit of the premise of the idea there.

539
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Speaker 1: On the logistics sides, like so they were coaching leading

540
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Speaker 1: up to the actual event, how did you get how

541
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Speaker 1: did you get them to buy into that side? Because

542
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: normally some of us are a little hard headed and

543
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of difficult to work with at time, So how

544
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Speaker 1: did you get both those guys to buy into the

545
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: whole entire process.

546
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Speaker 3: I think we had a really successful proof of concept

547
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Speaker 3: about a year and a half ago.

548
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Speaker 2: We had Michael Beasley versus Mario Chalmers.

549
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Speaker 3: As coaches in another season that we did with twenty

550
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: plus episodes, et cetera, and it went really well. Obviously

551
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: we didn't have Beasley and Chalmers face off afterwards, but

552
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: we had a very successful season with that, and I

553
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: think that we were able to really just show what

554
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: we wanted to do. Beasley already knew what we were

555
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: trying to do, and Lance, you know, Lance like he's

556
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: kind of just like, I'm gonna go with it, and

557
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: he really he just really liked the idea. Wasn't as

558
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Speaker 3: hard as you think.

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Speaker 1: Actually, okay, dope, So what are some of the some

560
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: of the the thing that stood out about it? Obviously

561
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Speaker 1: you guys are right in the midst of the NBA

562
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Speaker 1: Playoffs slash Finals, But what was viewership like, what were

563
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Speaker 1: some of the you know, some of the some of

564
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Speaker 1: the feedback you got from what you guys created.

565
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, it wasn't We weren't necessarily trying to do it,

566
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Speaker 3: so people were like, yeah, we like this way better.

567
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: But we really we wanted people to to compare their

568
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Speaker 3: viewing experience because the idea of growing this UFC of

569
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Speaker 3: one v one basketball is it's not easy, but we

570
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: need basketball fans. So around this NBA Finals time was

571
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: perfect for us to do it because in that viewing

572
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: experience trial period is you know, some people may not

573
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Speaker 3: be used to watching one on one basketball or whatever

574
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Speaker 3: the case may be. So the feedback was really good.

575
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Speaker 3: This was our second pay per view. We've been doing

576
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Speaker 3: one v ones and we've been doing these types of

577
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Speaker 3: live events for for years now, but the pay per

578
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: view side where we're really trying to grow this, I

579
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Speaker 3: would I would consider it a success. There's obviously like

580
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: little finite details about the actual stream itself that I

581
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: would change, but obviously, like going forward, there's going to be.

582
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Speaker 2: Something new that we want to do better every single time.

583
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we had a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we had over over a million unique viewers

585
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: to the to the website, and there wasn't there.

586
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Speaker 2: Wasn't a million live stream viewers.

587
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Speaker 3: But I think that being able to gather over a

588
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: million people to come to the website to peak interest

589
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: in the idea super crucial for us.

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Speaker 2: You know, taking those numbers to wherever we want to

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Speaker 2: go next.

592
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: Or you know, pushing this to whoever else wants to

593
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: be a part of something like this. We can obviously

594
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: gather those numbers. But yeah, overall, really big success overall.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the goal is to grow this as

596
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Speaker 1: a business, which which you're definitely doing. Can you share

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Speaker 1: what type of like ballpark money did you guys make

598
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Speaker 1: off this first event? Did you guys come up in

599
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: the green, were you in the red? Did you break even?

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Speaker 1: How did it work?

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Speaker 3: No, we didn't make any money actually, but I think

602
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: honestly the people that were part of it got paid

603
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: and that was a really big part of it. You know,

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Speaker 3: we want to we want to present something that is

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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, like you look at the NBA contracts, right

606
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Speaker 3: and I don't Obviously I was never in the league,

607
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Speaker 3: so I don't know how the payment goes for that.

608
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: But if you break down somebody's contract and the eighty

609
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: two games that they're playing, and plus the possible playoff

610
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: games and whatnot, you know, it's a it's a it's

611
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: a big number, right. But for us, where we're trying

612
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: to go is to be able to offer the games

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Speaker 3: that you can make three to five hundred k in

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Speaker 3: a night for a thirty minute game. And I feel

615
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Speaker 3: like we were able to do that on the Beasley

616
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Speaker 3: and Land side. But obviously for the business, like we're

617
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: willing to take the hit to grow something. Now, we

618
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: didn't lose a ton of money, but for us to

619
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Speaker 3: break even and come out of an.

620
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Speaker 2: Event like that basically not spending a ton of money.

621
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Speaker 3: If we break even, you know what I mean, we

622
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Speaker 3: basically put the event on for free.

623
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Speaker 2: We're able to branch off do all of these types

624
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Speaker 2: of things.

625
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Speaker 3: So I think the grand scheme of things, it being

626
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Speaker 3: the second event and us not taking a massive loss,

627
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Speaker 3: I think I still do when I think we profit

628
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: it in terms of, uh, where we're growing as a company.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you guys got a million eyeballs to

630
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Speaker 1: the site, I mean that's the goal. I mean, did

631
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Speaker 1: you think in the midst of literally the NBA Finals

632
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Speaker 1: that you guys would make so much noise?

633
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Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, Like I think, I think everything that we

634
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: did was pretty strategic. Once we were able to lock

635
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Speaker 3: in Beasley and Lance and we wanted to do this season,

636
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: we knew exactly how we were going to play it out.

637
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Speaker 3: We had the idea written up for a while. Like

638
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: I said, it was really it was really key for

639
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: us to try and get basketball fans, not just Next

640
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Chapter fans, not just NBA fans, but basketball fans in

641
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: general to compare the viewing experience to the NBA Finals

642
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: in this pay per view one on one game with

643
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: former NBA players. But yeah, man, for sure, I mean,

644
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: over all overall, definitely success.

645
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Speaker 1: So what's next. I mean, obviously, I think Beasley's one

646
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: of the coldest one on one players we've seen. I

647
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: know Iso Joe I played against him. I know his

648
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: name has been thrown out. One of the best one

649
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: on one players in the history of the NBA, Carmelo

650
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Anthony's name has been thrown out. So obviously you're starting

651
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: to ring bells and people are putting out hypotheticals. But

652
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: what is next for the next chapter.

653
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: You know, we do a lot of different things.

654
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned earlier, we are primarily like we started

655
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: as a YouTube channel, We're trying to continue to not

656
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: just grow the YouTube channel.

657
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: We'll never get rid of our free content.

658
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: It's what brings on the fans, but we want to

659
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: continue to grow something outside of YouTube. In terms of

660
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: the NBA Marquee matchup, we don't really know what's next.

661
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of names that are

662
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: thrown in there, but ultimately we have to get people

663
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: to agree to stuff before there's more conversations outside of

664
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: the actual game, before we announce stuff, before we get

665
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: contracts going and whatnot. We have like a lot of

666
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: city events where world take like guys that represent the

667
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: next chapter that came up on the next chapter that

668
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: are signed to the next chapter that we'll go to

669
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: a city like next We're going to New Orleans in

670
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: a couple of days. Here, we'll take some of our

671
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: best guys. We'll match up, we'll make some we'll make

672
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: like a card out there against some of the best

673
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: hoopers in New Orleans.

674
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: And the idea of that is to go out to

675
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: a city, you know, go out there.

676
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: People that watch us, that live out there can meet

677
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: the guys that hoop on next chapter, see how it

678
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: really goes down. Watch all the games in person, enjoy

679
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: the live experience because all of those games will be

680
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: turned into YouTube videos.

681
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: And then also it's to hopefully find more talent.

682
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: Ideally we continue to do these series outside of the

683
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: pay per view. We do these live city events or

684
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: these showcases or tryouts and whatnot, and to find more talent.

685
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: There's so much untapped basketball talent out there that you know,

686
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 3: maybe didn't make it to the NBA or maybe didn't

687
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: go professional overseas, something's happened.

688
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: People have kids and they take.

689
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: On that dynamic of life and some things just don't

690
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: work out. But there's still so many basketball players out

691
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: there that can compete at a high level, and I

692
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: feel like now it's our job to find them, so

693
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: in us kind of traveling around. That's really what's next

694
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 3: is finding more talent and growing the free side, because

695
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: as you continue to join the next chapter and be

696
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: put onto the platform, it'll kind of start to You'll

697
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: start to build your own momentum. You win one game,

698
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: you have a viral play this and that. I mean,

699
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: the next chapter's a platform that is a place for

700
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: people to come hoop, be seen, grow your platform, grow

701
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: your business, and become a star overnight. I mean, I

702
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: know it sounds crazy, but like there's people that a

703
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: couple hundred followers, and then you come perform on the

704
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: next chapter, you do really well, the fan base loves you.

705
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: You play again, and.

706
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Then now you have maybe twenty five thousand people that

707
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: are following you in a week span.

708
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: And it's really like.

709
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: It seems unreal, but now that this social media wave

710
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: is just so big, anything's really possible here. So in

711
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: terms of what's next for the next chapter, now that's

712
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: just like going around finding talent, continuing to grow our name.

713
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: In terms of the next pay per view, though, that

714
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: I'm not sure when that will be. I know we'll

715
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: have another one this year. I know obviously we want

716
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: to find Beasley another matchup that makes sense. Joe Johnson's name,

717
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: like you said, has been thrown out there.

718
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: There was. He said some stuff on the nightcap about

719
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: the offer.

720
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: You know, actually Joe was the original person that we

721
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: talked to before Lance.

722
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be Lance.

723
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be Joe Johnson versus Michael Beasley,

724
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: and we talked about it for a while. We went

725
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: to a restaurant. We had a very respectful, honest conversation,

726
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: very open conversation about where we are, how we're growing,

727
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: what we're doing, and to be honest, I thought I

728
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: thought everything went well. I think based off what Joe

729
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 3: said on the nightcap, he seemed like maybe a little

730
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: disrespected by the offer and everything, which honestly, I completely understand.

731
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: We never were trying to diminish anybody's career or disrespect

732
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: anybody because the last we heard the offer was great

733
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: and whatnot.

734
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, we got to

735
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board and figure it out.

736
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take that too I mean, you guys are

737
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: a startup, you know what I mean. So you guys

738
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: can offer what you start you can offer right now.

739
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: But I think obviously the proof of the concept has worked.

740
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I know Joe's

741
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: a competitor, and I know all those guys are in

742
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: the Big Three right now, and I even have think

743
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: I think the drama between Lance and Bees kind of

744
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: pumped up the Big Three to start their season off

745
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: because they were teammates.

746
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: And you heard that, I don't know how true it was.

747
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: You heard BASI didn't want to play with him, So again,

748
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, all that drama is good drama. But I

749
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: think you know, you guys are definitely on the right path.

750
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: Are you old enough to remember when an One kind

751
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: of went on these tours and they would find talent

752
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: in these cities because they could kind of assimilar. Obviously

753
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: that was the team game, but this is you know,

754
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: you guys are looking for individual talent. But that was

755
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: huge late nineties, early two thousands, just the Internet hadn't

756
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: caught up to that, do you guys, Have you guys

757
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: found a way to implement brands within what you're doing

758
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: right now to get some brand partnerships yeah, it is kind.

759
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: Of like modern Day and One in a way.

760
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: We're working on some things to scale to the arena

761
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: size and the apparel size and everything. We work closely

762
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: with Prize Picks, Like Prize Picks works with us on

763
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: a lot. Beasley and Lance along with the undercards, all

764
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: of the matchups were just in Prize Picks. People were

765
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: allowed to make lineups on the game and everything.

766
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: So that was really.

767
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: Cool to see the platform inside of another platform like

768
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: that with you know, millions of people that have the

769
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 3: app downloaded, so that was really cool. We are working

770
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: closely with some brands, but I think that I think

771
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: that we had to continue to prove that this is

772
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: a legitimate place to host a real one on one

773
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: basketball game. Like you said, you know, we're only our

774
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: second pay per view in obviously we're years in with

775
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: the YouTube side and everything. But in order to continue

776
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 3: to like legitimize this brand and get other companies involved,

777
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: I think that we have to continue to show successful streams, which, just.

778
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: Like anything like, you do it enough, you do it

779
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: enough times.

780
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: And you produce it at a high quality, then I

781
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: think that it'll make sense for more people to come along.

782
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: We work closely with some people.

783
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's not like there,

784
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 3: it's not like we have five hundred you know, companies

785
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: knocking at our door.

786
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: Not yet.

787
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: To me, how you le legitimize it is continue to

788
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: bring the former NBA players you've been able to get

789
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: your hands on. I mean, you guys got Dwight Howard

790
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: out to a game. You guys hat Ty Lost and

791
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Jennings, Boogie, Mario, you name it. You're starting to

792
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: get these guys out there. And to me, when you

793
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: get those type of people to stamp your product is

794
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: where the legitimacy come from. Out of the former players

795
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: you've seen play, former NBA guys, who have you been

796
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the most impressed with?

797
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: On my personal channel, I've hooped with quite a few

798
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: of the last three months. I would say I think

799
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: like Lou Williams made it look the easiest, Like he

800
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: was really just like he was moving so slow, like

801
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: he was really at his own pace and at the park,

802
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: you know, everybody wants to be all handsy and play

803
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: super physical, and he was just moving so slow.

804
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: And I was just so impressed by.

805
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: Boogie just like it almost feels like he shouldn't shoot

806
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: at such a high efficiency, Like you know what I mean,

807
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: he played really well.

808
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: I played in something called the Creator League. You may

809
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: have seen it.

810
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: They had another one actually last year, the year before

811
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: this one, and Boogie played.

812
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: In that one, and he was he was unreal in that.

813
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: Ty Lawson dropped like forty five points when I brought

814
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: him to Ohio to play in a men's league.

815
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: Scene and I.

816
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Don't know if you've been seeing his his Instagram stories,

817
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: like he's in really good shape right now. So I

818
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: knew him coming out he was gonna be able to last.

819
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: We made sure we had no subs. We actually tried

820
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: to like make it a challenge inside of the YouTube

821
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: video itself. And you know Joe, like same thing with

822
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson brought him out to Atlanta. His his pacing

823
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: was unreal, like he just you can't speed these guys up.

824
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: You know you've got a lot of game too. Where

825
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: let me hear a little bit about your background. When

826
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I saw I was like, oh he could play too,

827
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: So where where did your game come from?

828
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

829
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: I appreciate that I fell in love with basketball at

830
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: a young age. I just was never really that good

831
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: at it. So I was one of those guys that

832
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: was not really like born with this unnatural or crazy talent,

833
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: crazy height or anything like that. I was really just

834
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: like a Jim Rat kind of kid, and that's where

835
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: I really like built a lot of my skill and

836
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: shooting has always been like a big part of my game.

837
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: Division three basketball. I played Division three college basketball in Ohio.

838
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: There's a big football school by the name of University

839
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: of Mount Union. They've won over twelve national championships for football,

840
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: but I went there for basketball. I was right in

841
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: my backyard, about forty five minutes from where I grew up.

842
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: I went there, played all four years there. We were

843
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: really good, won a couple championships, and just developed my game.

844
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: There After college though, I really feel like that's when

845
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: I started to gain more confidence. And you know in basketball,

846
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: that confidence and the skill goes so hand in hand.

847
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: It's unreal like, especially when you get in that flow

848
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: state hit two or three, you know what I mean,

849
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: not at the parks. When my college career ended, so

850
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: I started my I started my personal YouTube channel in college,

851
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: and I grew up from zero to one hundred K

852
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: with some of my buddies in school, twenty twenty. COVID

853
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: year was my senior year, and our career abruptly ended.

854
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: I documented like my whole life in school after that,

855
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: I really didn't know what I was going to do,

856
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: so I kind of just, you know, we picked up

857
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: the camera started making some random YouTube content, and my

858
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: whole persona, my whole online.

859
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: In college was just all derived around Division three.

860
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: This Division three that when I graduated, I really didn't

861
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: have this title to my name.

862
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know where my niche was anymore.

863
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: So we stuck around with like the former D three thing,

864
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: and we did this former D three hooper versus regular

865
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: park hoopers, and I was miked up, and it just

866
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: it was a really good idea because you know, the

867
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: whole like the idea of Division three sports is kind

868
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: of like look down upon.

869
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: So it's like the idea of seeing the D three

870
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: hooper verse.

871
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: Like people that go play pickup, regular people that just

872
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: play pickup, however you want to call it. The video

873
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: did really well, and that's kind of when the whole

874
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: park basketball scene started to do really well for me.

875
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: So I started to just travel around the country and

876
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: just play at different parks and I would post on

877
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: my Instagram story, Hey, I'm going to this park at

878
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 3: this time on this day, and we started to bring

879
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger crowds out and that's when, like I

880
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: really started to gain my confidence. And that's that's kind

881
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: of how I developed my skill as like a street

882
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: ball hooper mixed with this organized professional whatever you want

883
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: to call it.

884
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I think people are delusional at times because they think

885
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: whether it be D three hooper, D three Hooper, D

886
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: one hooper, last guy on the bench, like, oh he's weak.

887
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I can like, no, there's a reason why I got

888
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get my school paid for. There's a

889
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: reason why I make money even though I sit on

890
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: the bench in this league.

891
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: And I think people think, because oh.

892
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: You're not a big star, you're not doing like you

893
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: can't play, which is crazy. So I love the fact that, like,

894
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: you know your ability to kind of okay, you think

895
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: D three, you think it's sweet, Come get some of

896
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: this man before we get you out of here. Tough

897
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: question to the cities you've been in. What city impressed

898
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: you the most? But their street ballers?

899
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy you said tough question before asking this, because

900
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: this is the question I probably get the most, and

901
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: I never have an accurate answer.

902
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: Give me two or three cities. Then that you were

903
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: just like, okay, they came with it today.

904
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: Richmond Virginia, Okay, for sure, that's like super random. And

905
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: then I was in.

906
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: The Charlotte I played at a park in Charlotte, and

907
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: it was like when Rob Dylan Hamm and then we're

908
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: in school and everything, and he popped out to the

909
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: park and there were a bunch of c out there,

910
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: just a really just a bunch of like really tough

911
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: Hoopers that came out that day and they ran the park. Man.

912
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: It was it was crazy.

913
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: So I mean, if I really had to give you

914
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: an answer, it'd probably be Charlotte, yeah, or Richmond, Virginia.

915
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: They gave us some work.

916
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Give me your five dream retired NBA players to get

917
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: on to the next chapter. Is your chance, They're all, hey,

918
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: they're all going to see this ship.

919
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: So here's your chance.

920
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: But you want I'm not gonna lie.

921
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: I feel like we have to make the Joe Johnson

922
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: Michael Beasley matchup happen.

923
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: So those are two for sure.

924
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: Beasley's always been a dream one because you know, I'll

925
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 3: tell you why. Beasley's always been a dream. Everybody that's

926
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: ever played, ever seen him, ever said anything about him

927
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: as always said that he is exactly he's cold, and

928
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: for everybody to talk about his one.

929
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: V one game specifically, it made him a myth.

930
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: It made him a myth of like man like, is

931
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: he really as good as everybody says he is? And

932
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: so I'm really happy we got to see bits and

933
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: parts of what he's capable of.

934
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: But I feel like.

935
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: There's so much more that we're going to see as

936
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: he continues to grow in this one on one space.

937
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, Joe Johnson, for sure.

938
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 3: Michael Beasley, I'd like to see I'd like to see

939
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 3: Kyrie get in the space. I think I think we'll

940
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: see Kyrie soon, just because I know he commentated the

941
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: game against them, and he talked about really wanting to

942
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: get involved.

943
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: He streams a lot. He talked about trying to make

944
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: his next chapter debut next year.

945
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 3: Obviously like there's a bunch of legalities with the league,

946
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: but he said he would play for free, which.

947
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: Is really cool.

948
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: Like, I know he talked about one v one to

949
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: completely different mastery of the game. That is just like

950
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: it's not as respected as much as five B five,

951
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: which I completely understand. Five y five is the pinnacle,

952
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 3: it's real basketball. But at the end of the day,

953
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: one on one is just it's super entertaining. It's mono emano.

954
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: There's nobody else to blame it to see you in

955
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: that other person. And I know, obviously like there's this

956
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: stigma around like bag this and bag work that. But

957
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like it's really cool

958
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: to see if you've mastered a certain part of your game,

959
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: it's really cool to see you display it against another

960
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: person that is.

961
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: Capable master or showing what they're mastering.

962
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: But not to put any pressure on you, but if

963
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: you build this concept out how I think you will

964
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: and how you think you will, your concept can possibly

965
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: be adopted by the NBA All Star Game because they're

966
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how do we make the All

967
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Star Weekend better? And if your concept can show like, yo,

968
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: these dudes really want to do this. This is something

969
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: that fans really want to see. You never know you

970
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: might be partnering with the NBA one day on on

971
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend, next chapter time the NBA for one

972
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: on one Challenge.

973
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I don't know. We'll see.

974
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, you know, like the NBA is super

975
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: closed off to other other leagues and other.

976
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Companies and whatnot, so I'm just getting it out there.

977
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: I think you could proof the concept though, like I

978
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: think you invented something. Yeah, you know, not you invented

979
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: I know other guys to try to do it, but

980
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: your ability to get the big names has definitely like, Okay,

981
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: well it's working there. Maybe we and then we know

982
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: if they start going on one on one it was

983
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: because of the next chapter because no one else is

984
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: doing it like you.

985
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: I think we get that.

986
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: I think we get people to commit to some to

987
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: doing some of this stuff because like you know, we

988
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: keep mentioning proof of concept, but also like it's a

989
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: very we're a very trustworthy place to.

990
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Make sure that it's done in a very legit way.

991
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: You can't have people that have done what they've done

992
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: respectfully in the vassal world come onto your platform and

993
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: it's just a shit show, Like it's just not something

994
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: that is not something that we want to do. We

995
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: take we take a lot of pride in our production quality.

996
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: We take a lot of pride in how we handle

997
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: things behind the scenes. Our converse stations, the maturity, the legitimacy.

998
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 3: So I think that's why people are stepping up to

999
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: the plate with confidence that it's going to be done

1000
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: the right way. But fuck, man, I owe you two

1001
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: more people, and I can't. I can't think of anybody

1002
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: I would like to see John Wall at this moment.

1003
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: I'd like to see John Wall. I've seen him in

1004
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: the gym here and there. That'd be really fun to

1005
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: see that. And if Kyrie does step onto the police

1006
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: an he wants to play his next chapter debut at

1007
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 3: Mandalay Bay, I want to see it be done against

1008
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard.

1009
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Lillard, you guys do guys coming off of injury, Well,

1010
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: we'll see well.

1011
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: Man.

1012
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: Congratulations on what you've built, in what you continue to grow.

1013
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: We're here for a resource, man, so make sure you

1014
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: come back in updates on what you got going on, man,

1015
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: and the best of luck moving forward.

1016
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: Bro.

1017
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do it next time whenever we find out

1018
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: our next matchup here soon in the next couple of weeks,

1019
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: and we can get out and talk about it, talk

1020
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: about who we think is going to win and why.

1021
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Sounds good, Bro, We'll be well. Then take care. Well

1022
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: that was a lot, man, It's been a hell of

1023
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: a season. Congratulations to again to the Oklahoma City thunder

1024
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: h and also congratulations to the Indiana Pacers the way

1025
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: you guys played, the whole coaching staff, management Sending love

1026
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: and thoughts to the whole Halliburton family. H speedy recovery.

1027
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: Shout out my dog Tatum and and and Lillard who

1028
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: are also coming back off Achilles injuries. Man, everyone enjoyed

1029
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: their off season, looking forward to the Draft this week,

1030
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: and definitely looking forward to free agency. The end of

1031
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: the season has come, but have no fear, we are

1032
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. I will see you next week. You

1033
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: catch this on the All the Smoke Productions YouTube and

1034
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: the DraftKings Network. See y'all next week.