WEBVTT - EP 90: Westside w/TQ 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:10.880 Worldwide. Why from the streets to the yard Gangster When 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:16.600 I wrote child all across the usc Compton Watts Banked 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:21.880 l A from on the California the Valley, we represent 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.760 that Keller County. So if you're keeping it real on 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.160 your side of your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.760 Gangster the Goals. We're gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.120 H If I lie, my nose will grow like Pinocchio. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.920 We're gonna tell you to choose and nothing but the 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.640 truth gangs to crown the Goals. This is not your 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.280 average show. You're now tuned into the Rail m c A, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.720 Big James and big Stalls and strictly from the streets. Hello, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:56.400 we uh you know we represent the geez never no 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:03.360 wanna bees, tanks us hust Let's play us if you 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.399 want to hear the rail but you didn't come to 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:15.200 the right Five Gangster Chronicles, The Drying the Coast, what's 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:25.319 the word on the streets? Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.520 the production of My Heart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.160 Make sure you download the I Heart Apple and subscribe 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.720 to the Gangster Chronicles For my Apple users, hit the 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.480 Purple Mica on your front screen, subscribe against the Chronicles 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.160 and leave a five star rate in the comment. What's up, everybody? 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.160 Welcome to another episode a Gangster Chronicles. Not with my 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.280 homeboy tonight. You know, unfortunately on other brothers, m C 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.240 incapacitated at the moment. He's gonna be all right. He's 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.400 in the hospital right now. We ask y'all, all y'all 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.680 have to keep my man and prayers and also keep 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.800 our brother Reggie writing prayer. It's a lot of stuff 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.880 going on right now. Dog, Well, let it be known 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.040 clear that they don't have cold. You just you just 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.080 up under some ovel. But he's gonna be all right, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.040 and we're gonna hold it down to to come back. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.520 We got stuff going on with Trump right now. Man. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.760 Trump is out there acting the food but they like 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.280 they're about to turn him his ass man, but they should, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.600 they should and and and you know there's a lot 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.720 of ship going on with that, Like you're shating the 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.160 ride and then five people that got killed these basically 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.880 getting away with it. Ain't nobody's been charged with murder yet, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.480 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's crazy because motherfucker's 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.640 died on here. Man, you know what not to be rude. Man, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.359 we got a special guest and like, man, we gotta 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.520 pay t Q and the building with us. Man, Yeah, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.240 and then here, what's up? What's up? Somebody else gonna 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.440 take the fall for this man, you know. And I 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.680 even heard something that I heard something on what I'm 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.200 seeing in this morning man to dude was talking about 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.160 trying to part in himself Trump. Yeah, well he was. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.680 He was pretty warning not to do that. Don't even 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.120 try that. But Trump doing what he want to do. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.520 But he's just showing the people how you getting down, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.920 and he's just being one honey with it. But one 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.840 motherfucker don't dictate. And this is what he's doing, dictating 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.640 ship right now on how he want to run ship 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.600 or what people should be doing, because he wanted to 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.520 do it, and he shouldn't be allowed that. I couldn't 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.160 do that, Oh no, none of us could, you know. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.400 So I just think it's all full of ship. You know, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.200 you're inside the ride and and five people die in 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.360 the process of that, and you just lock motherfucker's up. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.440 But ain't nobody being charged with the murders If I 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.040 killed the police officer in the middle in the midst 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.400 of a crime. They've been to put my ass on 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.600 death road. They've been to do me bad. Oh yeah exactly. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.240 And then and then you know the other component thats 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.680 you got with that, bro. You are in the government facility. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:50.080 You are inside of government facility. And I think, um, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.160 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think if you 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.000 go to a government facility and do something, man, ain't 0:03:55.000 --> 0:04:00.400 that like worse? Yeah? It is worse. It is. It's 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.960 something right though. Man, I've been in that building before. Man, 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.000 that place be that places fortified. There's so many people 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.840 in there were guns constantly. How could that just happen 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.800 like that? I think that's because that way of thinking. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.479 Then infiltrated some of them police, and you got twelve 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.719 of them. That's that's being looked at. Two of them 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.440 don't resigned. Trump had the motherfucker's in his pocket and 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:29.560 he let him walk on when just walk on through 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.719 that motherfucker like that? No, That's what I was thinking, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.440 because I've been for the Capitol building before too. And 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.039 then you know if you walk close to that grass 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.279 and somebody who secret service saying you gotta get back, well, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.920 like that man st looked up on that roof all 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.960 the guns pointed at you, and constantly they ain't no way, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.279 ain't no way. There ain't no way, man. So he 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.719 has something to do with that. And see these people 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.600 knowing now all of them is kind of turned their 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.760 back on them, and they're like, oh, he went too far. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.159 And a lot of people are generally upset though. Yeah, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.880 if there is, they need to show it, and they 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.440 need to show people that regardless of the color of 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.440 your skin, you're gonna be You're gonna you, You're gonna 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.200 be dealt with accordingly if you cross ther line like that. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.960 Look at Black Lives Matter. Trump shut the whole National Guards, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:25.080 at that ash Man, the whole nine. You just see 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.120 none of that ship. And then you the cold part 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:32.960 about it. You see the white boys, Nason, the police man. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.080 That wouldn't have happened. Somebody would have got shot somebody. Yeah, man, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.760 it would have been a whole lot of deaths. Man. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.600 So you know that's the ongoing thing. Man. I wanted 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.640 to ask you about some stuff, don't t That's why 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.080 I hit you up, man, because I know you don't 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.640 do a lot of interviews, so we appreciate you coming on. Man. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.000 Ain't nothing you third off with a group coming to age. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.039 Then y'all broke up and you put like one of 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.200 the biggest records out of the nineties. After that, I 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.080 always wanted to ask you, how did you come up 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.480 with that West Side? I don't know, man, that was honestly, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.719 that was that was organic, man. I walked into I 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.279 walked into the studio and it was just good musicians 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.719 in their gym. And at the time when I walked 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.600 in there it was it was Mike Moseley, Rick Rock 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.760 from the Bay and Uh and my Man Family Fammy 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.360 og Tuna and Rick Rock was playing on the drums 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.080 when I walked in, Fammy was playing on the piano 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.039 and they was just playing a melody and to me 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.480 it sounded like they was playing the track to Dear Mama, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.400 but they was doing some funky other beat to it. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.320 And so I was there to meet Mike Moseley because 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.679 at the time I was signed to a to another label. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.599 I was signed to Atlantic and I was having problems 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.440 with them, and I was there to meet Mike to 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.600 do some writing with him, and like I couldn't I 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.960 couldn't pay attention because I just kept listening to what 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.360 they was making in there, So I asked my I'm like, man, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.160 can I just get on that beat? And he came in. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.520 When I started writing, he started messing around on the 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.680 beat machine, and about fifteen minutes, Man, it was a 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:04.039 song man. You just legendary cats in there because Mike Man, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.640 all them cats man, they held debate down. They held 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.360 music right and Rick Ruck still going to day he 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.000 Ship jay Z and everybody else. Man, So you kind 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.400 of gave them cast they start them. I mean now 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.120 they was already popping. They was down here working on 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.760 on some other projects actually, and then that day when 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.880 we did west Side, we kind of hit it off 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.960 and I just I went to the I just went 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.680 to the Bay. That's where I kind of kicked off that. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.440 I just started recording with Mike and all them Bay artists, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.080 and uh that that ship happened for about a year, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.320 maybe before I even put anything out. I was just 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.360 doing hooks in the Bay with like all kinds of people, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.600 man Mac maull and like Sam Queen and rbl Posse, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.200 all of these cats. Um just going studio the studio 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.480 with Mike really um working with casts like Sam Bostic, 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.600 Studio tone Um and Banks all them casts up there 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.880 I used to work with. So when I did, when 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.960 I actually did an album, that's how forty and Short 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.280 knowledge them ended up on. It was through Mike and 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.400 all it pick up to the homie too Short forty yeah, man, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.960 And you know what's crazy, man, It's like that you 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.600 start not make sense because I always looked at you 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.200 like it's an R and B singer, but you moved 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.720 like a rapper. Yeah, I mean, that's what I was 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.400 always around. Really, I didn't really. I didn't after I 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.920 the group. That was like my experience with R and B. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.640 After that, I didn't really I didn't really have no 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.800 R and B I was. I was always doing music 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.920 with rappers. I used to always make music with rap 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.280 producers and even when I left, I went to a 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.199 rap label. So it's just it was always raped and 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.160 and even even before I started doing music professionally, Like 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.360 I mean, I listened to the n w A more 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.080 than I listened to to any of the R and 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.480 B music that was out at the time. When it 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.360 came down to R and B, I was into like 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.760 my mom the records, which was it was ohd Ship, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.559 it was you know, Marvin Gay Motown, you know Stevie 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.640 Wonder that type of ship. So I didn't really I 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.439 didn't really get into like the early nineties or the eighties, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:13.679 uh r and B. It was mostly rapped and and pop, 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.319 you know, Michael Jackson and Prince and that's the ship 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.319 I was into when I was young as far as 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.800 like singing win everything else. Man, it was just wrapped constantly. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.640 So I think that just kind of screwed I just 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.000 I never was a rapper. I just always saying, you 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.960 know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you came out here 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.360 originally from Alabama. You're from Compton, right, Compton, California? Correct? Yeah, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.480 I left Alabama when I was a year old. When 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.520 to come year old? So yeah, you come throm James 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.080 here from the city right right, He's from me from 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.600 the city. Man. And you know, one thing I wanted 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.839 to ask you make is for as far as as 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.880 long as I knew and you you've had a really 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.240 great fan base, man, have been able to tour a 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:53.959 whole lot and go out to come for you real 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.319 big overseas and everything. How did you wind up doing 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.320 a deal with cash money because you was on you 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.160 weren't on the to get that time you was on 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:09.600 one of them. You know, I was having up. I 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.920 was just having this issue with Sony where their international 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.720 company was just a lot bigger and a lot more 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:22.120 powerful than the domestic company, and like, you know, we 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.320 kind of saw out of eye with that with that 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.240 side of the company. But I'm an American artist, so 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:32.480 I kept button heads with with the domestic side of 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.880 the company. And it was like every time I would 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.240 talk to Slim, he would always have the same idea 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.120 that I would be trying to, you know, trying to 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.520 get across the Sony that they just didn't get. Like 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.360 they was just some slick New York dudes. They was 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.800 on this real slick R and B ship. They didn't 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.880 really feel like like my subject matter and all this 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.680 and that, Like they wanted to change the ship that 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.640 me and Mike was doing. They didn't want Mike, Rick Rock, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.960 none of them on my on the next album that 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.840 I was doing. Um, we did my album and then 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.000 we can gotta deal. So once that West Side song 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.520 came out and it did what it did, they wanted 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.400 to just kind of take over and turn me into 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.480 a a different kind of artist. I wasn't really for that. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.839 Um Slim had the best idea, Baby had the best idea. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.079 I'd always see them in passing and Um when we 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.640 was on up in Smoke, they they told me that 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.160 they have been trying to get me out of my deal, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:42.880 and Sony told him to stop stop calling me. Basically yeah, exactly. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.280 So they told me they was like, man, if you 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.520 can get yourself out of there, you know, we gotta 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.880 deal for you and we'll sign you in a minute. 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.079 So I just kind of set about trying to get 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.440 myself away, and and that's how it happened. Like really, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.200 you know, I had it ships with Ju being with 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.040 v G. Like we would always see each other on 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.679 the road. They fucked on music heavy. I funk with 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.280 their music heavy, and they would always tell me how 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:15.960 much Baby and Slim like my ship. So it the 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.400 beginning of the relationship just came on mutual respecting each 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.920 other's music. So we would hang out a lot. I 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.080 would always go down there work with them, be in 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.360 the studio of doing songs with him. We would cross 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.720 each other out if they were doing the show. They 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.920 would always be like, Hey, come get on stage with 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.199 us tonight, and I get in their show. And do 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:40.000 west Side. So they did a lot to like baby, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:44.439 put a lot of a lot of UH radio stations 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:49.760 and ship in the South onto my music. So I'm like, okay, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.800 this this seemed real, This seemed organic. Like this some 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.679 the some niggas that really like what I do. I 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.920 shouldn't have to change too much. So let's let's let's 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.440 go on and do it. Yeah, man, there with some 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.439 cold I read your stuff. There was some cold cats 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.000 at the end of the day. Um, it was like 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.200 some shi night tapping niggers. You know, they look out 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.680 for you, but they ain't looking out for you, you 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.440 know what I'm saying. And you know, the whole thing is, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.080 you know, he had all these brothers out of the 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.560 penitentiary that did ten in twenty and here it is 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.679 on the bus and he's starving them. And then you 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:33.560 got And my whole thing is the guys that death 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.400 Road was pretty much the same way was being starved. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:41.360 Nobody never came up. Why do you think that those 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.960 guys had that security and people look at them like 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.160 that and don't they don't have problems because they got 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.439 security like that, But then they starve you to death. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.439 I don't know. Man. I know I tell you this 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.560 much from the side when you started looking around and 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:01.680 you're saying, like, okay, all these niggas that that's these 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.880 are all killers, right. We didn't literally pull the busses 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.760 up to different penitentiaries and pick these niggas up. These 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.760 niggas complaining about their food. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.520 It's looking grinding around here. I'm like, that's part of 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.880 the reason why I bounced. It's like, bro, I'm not 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.360 gonna I'm not gonna be in this type of situation, right. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.360 It just don't make no sense where it ain't just 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:30.640 like one two niggas eating like nigga, you are feasting, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.720 and it's very easy to take care of these niggas 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.520 that you got on this bus. That's not hard to 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.400 do at all. At the same time, I don't know 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.240 what psychic psychological games being played. I don't know what 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.560 the history, and none of these niggas are. I don't 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.800 know what the private comments. These ain't my homies. I'm 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.400 not from down there, you know what I'm saying. So 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.760 I don't know if he starving somebody as as some 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.560 payback for something they did. I don't know what the 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.600 funk going on. So I think the guys stayed there because, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.600 you know, getting out of prison and which is the 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.320 same scenario we had it death bro, you know, getting 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.080 out of prison and ain't got a you know, Robin 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.440 still to eat, and you you you're thinking, Okay, the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.440 homie got me. You know, they want to stay there, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.720 you know what I'm saying, because at any time half 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.400 the motherfucker's that was on the line right there could 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.200 did this Nike an end, you know what I'm saying. Whatever, 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.240 they stay there, and so they love to just thinking 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.920 one day this nigger gonna give me mine or I'm 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.000 gonna get mind doing it. And it never happened. It 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:44.240 never happened. And it's crazy how motherfucker's that ain't really 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.560 getting down like that, that can mind fuck a cat 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:53.920 that's done twenty years. Yeah, it's a trip. It's a trip. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.960 Started stopped making sense to me. So that's when I 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.280 had to get on and cut it, you know what 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.920 I'm saying. Yeah, man, you know when the thing he 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.680 was that was a big part because y'all put on 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.200 some plastic records during that time. So you're with these cats, man, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.080 and you rolling with them right, Um, you and Birdman 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.640 is kicking it. Man, when did you start first kind 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.840 of outside of him treating his home he's bad? Man? 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.560 When did you first kind of like get the inkland? 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:23.640 That stuff wasn't right over there, you know what. Um? 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.640 When I first got to New Orleans, Um, Like, before 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.560 I signed down there, I would spend my time with 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.440 Julie or with d G right, and they would have 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.560 me in the neighborhoods. I would always just be in 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:42.360 the neighborhoods. But after I signed, when I actually was 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:48.280 down there by myself, I started seeing how Now just 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.160 imagine you go to a new place where where you 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.480 didn't linked up with these niggas and that they running it. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.280 They got big records, you didn't. You know, y'all y'all 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.040 doing y'all making good records and everything. But every time 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.800 you're back at home, the people in the city is 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.760 kind of who who loved me already? Because I was 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.639 they already played my records down there a lot in 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.360 the first place. That's why. That's how any of these 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.640 people know who I am. Right, But the people will 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.000 always be like, oh, why are you working with them? Ah? 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.520 The niggas ain't ship ah, baby fucked up. He didn't 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.640 see that blue blue. Man. It's always it was never 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.440 nothing positive. People would always tell me, man, you should 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:34.720 have signed a masterpiece all over the city. Yeah, as 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.879 soon as I got there, Literally as soon as I 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.400 got there. So one day I'm at the gas station 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.160 and I'm right outside of a Baby's neighborhood. I walk 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:52.800 in to pay for gas. Here comes see Murder, Magic, Silk, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.200 and Simonia all in the store like in babies neighborhood. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.960 And I'm fresh, I'm fresh from l A. So you 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.520 know what I'm thinking in my head, I'm thinking, it's yeah, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.640 so I'm like, damn, what is this ship about? Literally 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:13.000 there they even say, and you don't know what you 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:18.919 signed these fun as niggas far and so you imagine 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.960 like I'm there, I'm the only R and B Dude, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.320 I'm thinking I'm about to really like, yeah, I'm about 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.879 to get it because I'm literally the only singer around. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.720 He am about to be writing on everybody's ship. And 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.720 then literally like first weekend, you just kind of get this. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.280 It's just like this negative air about the ship, not 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.680 necessarily within the camp. All that was cool at that point, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.639 but the people in the place where they're supposed to 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.480 be holding it down. Didn't really seem to be feeling 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:51.120 them like that. So they just they had that reputation. Um, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.679 I don't know what period this was. Was this about 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.280 the time because because Juvenile was the nigga over there 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.320 for a long time, man, because this was the beginning, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.320 Like this was right after his first This was right 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.480 after back that ass up. So in between back that 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:13.480 ass up and like that, that year behind that was 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.680 all of the time when I was like traveling with them, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.480 trying to get myself office Sony and signed to them 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.639 basically okay, so so so let me get this straighten 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.360 up for the people. So you was running with them 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.240 for a year or so before you even was able 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.040 to get off of Sony. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.800 I was still I was still on tour and ship. Um, 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.399 Like I would do shows and we would be in 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.280 the same city or we would be close. Baby would 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.160 send his van from me, or send a card from 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.480 me or any of that. Sometimes I would do my 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.479 show then to go today show. So it was just 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.200 times when it was just like we were just at first, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.919 Like I said, it was just a respect of the music. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:54.840 You know what I'm saying. The nigga would call me, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.399 hey man, once you come down here, I want you 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.560 to get on a couple of records with a couple 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.879 of people. So I go around the end, write some books, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:06.199 sing them, we go do a show. Baby always paid me, 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.400 bro always from the beginning to the end. I never 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.439 had no kind of money problem with the nigga. But 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.480 I know all of the niggas that did, and they're 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.920 not lying, you know what I'm saying. Like I was there, 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.320 I watched the ship, but I can't join in the 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:28.080 in the whole. I can't joining the whole conversation about 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.520 not being paid because he acted funny one time with 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.800 my money at the end, and my lawyer got involved 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.919 and I got my ship quick. That wasn't number like 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.520 a little dirty day to like. Since then, it ain't 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.120 never been no problem before the end, ain't never been 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.879 no problem. But I'm not here vouching for the nigga 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.080 saying that he ain't you know what I'm saying, because 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.439 I don't see how you can did other people. He 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:56.919 was just testing you at that time, probably so probably 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.000 so you know what I'm saying. But I got commentsening 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.480 stuff Man, it's like if if it's like the walls 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:08.439 start closing in and when you're from somewhere else and 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.639 you're around some niggas, that and y'all just different and 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.320 it ain't necessarily good or bad. It's just that it's different. 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.440 You're looking at it from a different eye, you know 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.360 what I'm saying. So I'm paying attention, like and I'm 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.280 like this ship that ran this course. Um, at the 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.439 end of the day, what I did while I was there, 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.240 I'm gonna be able to I'm gonna have for the 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.760 rest of my life because it was all right, and 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.119 it was all publishing ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.919 I didn't have to really get into I never signed 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.040 my publishing to them or none of that kind of ship, 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.720 so I didn't have to, like, you know, it was 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.400 a lot of desperation, a lot a lot of times 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.280 niggas make niggas and make bucked up decisions because they desperate. 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.119 They got miles to feed or whatever. The fun and 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.399 and and they go all money ain't good money. And 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.520 luckily I was in a position where I had some 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.760 ownership of my ship, even the ship that I did 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.760 with them, So it was it's kind of easy to 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.840