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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode a Gangster Chronicles. Not with my

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Speaker 1: We got stuff going on with Trump right now. Man.

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Speaker 1: a little bit like, damn man, I've kind of been

425
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: getting sunked over a little bit. Yeah, you know what happened.

426
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: And then you can if the way I was looking

427
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: at it, just like you know, I kind of heard

428
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 1: some some some horror stories going in. But at the

429
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: same time I knew I was protected as far as

430
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: my copyrights and mine publishing with anything I wrote was

431
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna be mine, like regardless that was. That was whether

432
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: I signed to them or whether I signed to somebody else.

433
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: That's what it was. At Sony. It wasn't no way

434
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna go backwards, you know what I'm saying.

435
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: But my thing was they came to me like, man,

436
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: we expanded, like we we're about to do some real

437
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: big ship. They started stretching out and grabbing people from

438
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: every day. That's when they signed Gilly. When they signed Mac,

439
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: Like when they offered me my deal, it was me

440
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: and corrupt, they was offering him one too. So they

441
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: was trying to turn the ship that they were doing

442
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: into some global ship. Right. He he wanted to take

443
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: over and so I'm looking at like then he had

444
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: got that switched. They law firm from some you know,

445
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: some country people that they were dealing with too, a

446
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: bigger law firm, which my Lloyd was like, okay, okay,

447
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: this might be a good move. So, you know, they

448
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: was trying to I think he was trying to get

449
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: out the gutter a little bit, which I was intrigued

450
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: by that nig was talking about are we gonna do

451
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: sponsorships with this shoe company and that and blah blah.

452
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that sounded good. You know what I'm saying.

453
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: That sounds like baby too, because Baby, to tell you,

454
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: I know, baby, you know we deal with him with

455
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: glasses man. Right when you went baby, I'll tell you

456
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: what Baby's problem is. When you with him, he would

457
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: make you feel like he's about to have you on

458
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: top of the world. Man, you feel and then when

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: it's time to do all that ship you can't catch

460
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: this nigger or I don't know it. Who is you?

461
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: You know? That's what they called man? Baby? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Baby?

462
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: Why his sister hold on, hold on no rowl up.

463
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: Why do they call him baby because he acts like one?

464
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: That's what his sister tell me, Oh, wow, you gotta

465
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: get what he wanted. U. Hey, that's it, man, that's it.

466
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: That's what his brothers said, that's what his sisters say,

467
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: That's what his family say. So Baby, Man, you know what, Man,

468
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: you was one of the first people. Man. You were

469
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: one of the first ones to really bring that out there. Man,

470
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: because because you know you are dude out here from

471
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: the city of Compton. Man, when did you see him

472
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: kiss them dudes in the mouth? Man? I had to

473
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: ask you this for the fans. The fans require lines

474
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: want to know and man, him and Wayne listening, that

475
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: was doing that ship from the beginning. Bro Like Wayne

476
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: used to call a baby Paul, and baby used to

477
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: call Wayne's son. I never hear them call each other

478
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: their names. It's always Paul and son. I saw a

479
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: baby kiss his son Brian, just like he kissed Wayne.

480
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: So to me, this ship was weird from the first

481
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: time I saw it. I used to tell him it

482
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: was weird. I they used to laugh at me because

483
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: it used to stress me out and they didn't give

484
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: a funk. And anytime I would get the clown and

485
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: there talking about it, Baby would be like Nigga that's

486
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: my son. I don't give a funk about what you

487
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: gotta say about it or what nobody else gotta say

488
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: about it. That's my son, and I'm kiss my kid

489
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: and mouth and what the funk I'm gonna say. But

490
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: then when you do that ship in public and you

491
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: got all these people around watching, come on, man, you're

492
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: putting us in a position where people gotta come to

493
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: me asking me about why y'all kissing. I don't really

494
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: want wanted to be in a position to be explaining

495
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: that to nobody. Here was twenty some years later, you

496
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: still explained, Still gotta explain. And and it's like somebody

497
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: caught a picture I'm doing it at this video shoot.

498
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: Baby and Puffy had a video shoot, um and one

499
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: of the photographers call him doing it, and like I'm

500
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: on the edge of the picture making a face at

501
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: him because all of the girls from the video shoot

502
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: is watching them doing this ship and Wayne is about

503
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: to leave Baby telling them by, just like they do

504
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: every day, and like that'sh it just embarrassed to funk.

505
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: That was the first time they did it. They that's

506
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: just how they It's just them, bro. You know one

507
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: thing that really liked and tripped me out with them. Man.

508
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: I remember when cash Money first came out, they was

509
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: wearing the blue rags. The next thing, you know, the

510
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: red X came and uh, I was you know, and

511
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I saw Wayne in the video took the red out

512
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: of his pocket and threw it on the ground, and

513
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I said, Man, this bold dude don't

514
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: even know how the gang banging, right, because he can

515
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: get d dpip like that right. And I don't know

516
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: nothing about all that, but I know when they hooked

517
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: up with shuged that, Uh he got the call in

518
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: a few of them saying they from the neighborhood, and

519
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: they this and that, and it was like, you never know,

520
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know these dudes, So I don't know where

521
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: that ship came from. I guess they was just riding

522
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: with Shugar and and you know, getting in where they

523
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: fit in. And you know, should have happened like that,

524
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: especially in the music business. Now, you know, you see

525
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker's this way and then next year

526
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him another kind of way. Uh. In

527
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: the hood, you don't you don't get too much of that,

528
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: and you know, niggas don't respect that, but I means

529
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: on man's on. You know what the record, Qayne is

530
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: a cool nigger. Wayne is all you know, Wayne is

531
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: actually an alright guy man, and Baby is not a

532
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: bad dude. He just got sucked up habits. Yeah, A

533
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: good way to put it. You know he's got it

534
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: is what it is, man, The truth is the truth.

535
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: You know it was what it is. I ain't the

536
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: first or the last nigger that said talk bad habits.

537
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Just farther just kissing his sons in the mouth, you know,

538
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: you know, you know that's a bad that's a personal

539
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: habit he needs to work on. But you know, each

540
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: his own. You know, I don't have none against that,

541
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: if that's what you're into. But you know, you know

542
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: he's bad stunning man. You know, kissing people in the

543
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: mouth ain't too you know, ain't too stunning like that?

544
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: Ain't two gangs to me? Well, you know some cats

545
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: might feel that. You know, this is my son, you

546
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I raised then I can kiss

547
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: my son. Will Smith kiss his son? That's that same

548
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: thing or that different. I don't know that he's ain't

549
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. That's what let me ask

550
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: you all this because y'all both got sons. I got

551
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: two sons and they was one of the kids I

552
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: kissed on the cheat. I've never kissed either one of

553
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: my sons in the mouth. Then when they was little

554
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: like babies, I didn't one of their babies and you

555
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: do that just different. But what's my times? Got pasted

556
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: like four and five? Dude. It was always pounds my sons.

557
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Even now it's a pound? What's up, pops? You know

558
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: what I mean? I still I still kiss my kissing

559
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: on the cheek, kissing niggas gonna check. Nothing wrong with that.

560
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: But you know that another man, because I don't know,

561
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: people know, James, the niggas was taking they was lip blocking.

562
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, it was. It was. Now you're to

563
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: kissing if I don't think the time kissing right niflocking?

564
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: Still you got to clean that ship up. Yeah, this

565
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: is what I mean when I say I'm not gonna

566
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: grab my son like this and go like this them

567
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: his lips touching. Man. Yeah, oh yeah, they showing kissing. Bro,

568
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: They kissed they you know. But I'm saying I can't

569
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: say I got used to it. You can't never get

570
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: used to it. But the nigger answered it the same

571
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: way any time I said anything about it, And then

572
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: it just became a joke because they literally didn't give

573
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: a funk what I thought or what nobody because stage

574
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: that's that. And Wayne was just like bathing me, that's

575
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: my pault. I don't give a funk what you're talking about.

576
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: T same thing, you know. One thing, man, I gotta

577
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: give him, guys, because Wayne was with him for a

578
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: long time, so baby was like it was like his

579
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: father figure. That's why it was so like, and that's

580
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: why I was so kind of puzzling. Uh, cut up, Yeah,

581
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's some crazy ship man. You know, kissing

582
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: your shoe and it ain't your shn it ain't you

583
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: son to a different put you on a different level. Yeah,

584
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: And I picked you out out there riding on that

585
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: bus with them catch under that condition, man, I wouldn't.

586
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't have I couldn't have fun with it like that,

587
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: because if you ain't treating me right while we're out here,

588
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna treat me right when we get you

589
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: the hood. Real talk, And that's probably how some of

590
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: them people was getting at you, like these niggas ain't ship.

591
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that exactly, and you know

592
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: how many times it's been a many times. And they

593
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: get on the bus and came to me like, man,

594
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: can I get surprised and some teeth? Mind, get me

595
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: something to eat? You know what I'm saying, the funck

596
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: And we just came on fucking tuning. We on our

597
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: way back to this nigga and we just nigga passed

598
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: out bags of money. Like what the niggas on that

599
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: bus didn't get ship? What the fuck? Like, come on, man,

600
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: and that's the bus full of killers. No, this ain't

601
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna somebody that much of the shoot up. Nigga, you

602
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: need to break bread man, stop right here, you know.

603
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: And you know it's funked up because at the end

604
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: of the day they wind up back in the hood

605
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: and and and these niggers keep pushing right. No, I

606
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: don't know what I say this much. Though I say

607
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: this much. I saw I saw the nigga not too

608
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: long ago, and it was some of the same niggas

609
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: still there, still there. So I don't know. I don't

610
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: know what you say about that. You know what I'm saying,

611
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: Maybe act together, maybe didn't. Maybe the nigga is stupid.

612
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they I don't know. I don't know, but I

613
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: know it's some of the same niggas. That's just like

614
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: with like with suld you know, motherfucker's don't know what

615
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: else to do. Is that what it is? Yeah, time

616
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: is I mean they gotta be making enough to live then, yeah,

617
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: they well they're getting something plush Man death Row had.

618
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's getting a little raggedy ass chick m still with

619
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: their little hustle. I did shilling crack on the corners

620
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: and ship. When you sing the industry like that, or

621
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: working with the nigger that's making money like that, you

622
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: come to get me. You're telling me you come to

623
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: take me out the hood, right, that's what you should

624
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: be doing. But if you go down like that, and

625
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: then you know a lot of motherfucker's was coming and going.

626
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: But then at the end of the day, the ones

627
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that was your killers man ain't going nowhere, and they

628
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: were selling off that the homies they rather dies and

629
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: niggas they broke bread with just they on the motherfucking

630
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: on on board with this dude, and money is a motherfucker.

631
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: But you know, some cats feel like they gotta do

632
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: what they gotta do to be relevant, you know, and

633
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: that's a cool way to be Ain't the way in

634
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: the world. A nothing that's nigga can run motherfucking killers

635
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: and ain't supposed to happen like that, nah now at all. Well,

636
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: I think Big Bro would have goes back to what

637
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: she was saying earlier exchange, it's always that whole because see,

638
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: as long as you got that whole, and you already

639
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: know when you ship shaking in the hood, you know

640
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. So people would rather almost be on

641
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: the road because you get this, go to some places

642
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But you would think man with

643
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: all the bread baby was getting what was they per

644
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: diemed like on the road? I'm pretty sure that perdem

645
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: was like Fis or some ship like that wasn't Oh no, no, no,

646
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't you know what, I honestly

647
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: don't know. I honestly don't know, because like I didn't

648
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: ride the bus with them niggas, and like I didn't

649
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: my pay scale wasn't like everybody else's because I made

650
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: most of my money for writing ship, you know what

651
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like we would do the tours or whatever,

652
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I make a little money on the

653
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: tours or whatever, but in the studio, burman Is is relentless.

654
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: Like well, at the time when I was there, like that,

655
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Nigga was about that catalog, that catale, all that catalog

656
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: songs on top of songs on typ of songs. And

657
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: the more I was in the studio, the more than

658
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Nigga would pay. So that's where I wanted to spend

659
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: all my time. So a lot of times they would

660
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: be off doing whatever they're doing, and I'd be refresh

661
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: or I'm with Jazzy, or I'm with somebody making the music.

662
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: And I didn't get paid at the same time as them,

663
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: like none, None of my ship was like theirs. So

664
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: that's why I said in the beginning like I just

665
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: had just financially, I just had a totally different experience

666
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: than them. That's why I think I lasted for so long,

667
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: because a lot of the bullshit was going on over

668
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: my head, Like we would literally go to the mall

669
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: and tear the motherfucker down. Every nigger come out of

670
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: there with boxes and boxes and ship. Right, it looked

671
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: to me, at least at first, like everybody is fine,

672
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: but it was also the trips when they was on

673
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: the Chipley circuit, which I wouldn't take because I'd be

674
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: in the studio. So I don't know what. I know

675
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: that it started getting bad because we started traveling a lot.

676
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: Like after we did his album, we really started doing

677
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of touring, and that's when it was more

678
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of just stopping in different spots to being in

679
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: the studio as opposed to like we would normally just

680
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: me and Fresh would be camped up in Atlanta just record, record,

681
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: record for weeks at a time. Then after Birdman's album

682
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: came out, started traveling a lot, and that's when I

683
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: started seeing like how the ship really was going for

684
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the niggas out there. And you know,

685
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just so you can get the picture of

686
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: this baby in the kind of road like you do.

687
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: You know how you don't fly on nothing like that.

688
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: Say that, but they're all plus three six or five

689
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: days a year, Yeah, with back with bags of money

690
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: that I've never did them. Dude, don't give no planes

691
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: at all. So you know, you got two of the

692
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: biggest people man to me. And for the record, we're

693
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of negative stuff about cash may not

694
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: a negative is just the truth. But one thing out

695
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: will say, cash money has had a stronghold on rap

696
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: since the nineties even on up until you know the

697
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: whole you got the Drakes because you know, every time

698
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: you look up and say, man, the niggas it's done,

699
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Wayne is gone, juvenile gone, it's somebody else that kind

700
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: of pop up and take that man on. So as

701
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: far as them being you know, black executives, man, I

702
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta give them their props with that because they keep

703
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: the train moving. That they keep the train moving, for sure,

704
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: but you think about how much bigger they would have

705
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: been because one thing about it, their level of production

706
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same since Fresh left. So you would think,

707
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna pay anybody, I'm gonna make sure this

708
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's many stay straight. You don't make sure Wayne be cool,

709
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's about it. Because

710
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: everybody that's that's in there and that's managing people, they

711
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: they should think like that. You would think you would

712
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: take a tupack in, sit his ass and on the

713
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: chef somewhere and keep him out of harm's way for

714
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: everything and anything. You would think, you know, all of

715
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: these guys. You know, I don't know if they motherfucker's

716
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: just just friends, be friending each other and just get

717
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: too loose with it. But you gotta think about what's

718
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: making your money. If you lose what's making your money,

719
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna make no money. And it's a it's

720
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: a fun up thing that you know, why the industry

721
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: have to take advantage of talent? You know what I'm saying,

722
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Why do they have to take advantage of you? I mean,

723
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: if a motherfucker just can't one hundred, have been one

724
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: hundred and stay one hunted, you still have a lot

725
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: of motherfuckers together right now in to day. But I've

726
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: seen from the temptations all the way to the ship.

727
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: Now motherfucker's have a problem with money, you know, feeling

728
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that they're being cheated. If you know what you're signing

729
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: in and know what you're doing, it shouldn't be a problem. One.

730
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: The biggest problem is though, the biggest problem is the

731
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: temptation of Uh. It's some kind of thought process. Man.

732
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: I don't I think the devil me, but it's some

733
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: kind of thought process that that people have that I

734
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just trying to take the quick,

735
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: easy way out, or the easy money or the fastest

736
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: money or whatever. But whatever that that little conversation is

737
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: that people have with themselves. They lose a lot of

738
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: ownership that way, right, And when you're dealing with the

739
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: type of people that we're talking about, you got to

740
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: have ownership. If you got ownership, they can't treat you

741
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: like they treat everybody else exactly. A lot of it's

742
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: been a lot of talented people that for whatever reason,

743
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: have been in a position of leverage and they've given

744
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: their ownership away. And that roll of the dice works

745
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: negatively more than it works positive when you know where

746
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: the lt And this would I tell people, and and

747
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: this happens a lot, man, with especially us, because usually

748
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: we're coming out of the situation, like you said, man,

749
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: the world we live in property. Right when we first

750
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: fought in these situations, we got talent, but we don't

751
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: necessarily have nobody around. It's like one person. I gotta

752
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: give props to a Charlotte man. Yeah, when he came

753
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: to us and he asked us what was most important,

754
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: we told him, you know, we wanted to keep owning

755
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: our content. And he said he never had no intention

756
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: on taking our content man. And I think a lot

757
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: of people when they're coming up them situations, the first

758
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: thing they think of is a check, right m But

759
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: they don't know what's behind that check. It ain't no sex.

760
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: Thing is free money. Somebody give you a check. The

761
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: bigger that check hills, the more they are going to

762
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: take out of your stuff. And when we're getting the

763
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: place right now, man, that we're all content. Remember you

764
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: used to just be music that was valuable. Yeah, this

765
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: particular interview that we're doing, for example, right now, motherfucker's

766
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at the twenty years from now, possible time,

767
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years from now. So now we're in this

768
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: thing to where you have to be really careful and

769
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: cautious to all y'all out there when you are exampling

770
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: these situations and endeavors. Don't just think about how much

771
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: money you're gonna give me, your friend. You can go

772
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: earn your money. You can work for your money and

773
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: make plenty of money. You know what I'm saying. You

774
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: have to really look better behind the things, behind the details,

775
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: because the motherfucker's word and ships whatever on that paper. Yeah,

776
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: exactly what you got that want to want to get it,

777
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: get it quick, get that quick money, opposed to being

778
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: talked how to let your money grow. We don't understand

779
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: that that kind of shep let your money grow. I

780
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: got a little money, but I keep doing what I'm doing.

781
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: My money gonna grow. We gotta learn how to say it.

782
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: We'ren't doing that. There's one chip that told me about

783
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: the big coins I'm getting in the big coins now,

784
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, we don't know shit about that. Okay,

785
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: that's that's right, you know, But I gotta ask you, man,

786
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: what's that I heard you? If you did something with

787
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: R Kelly Man? Is he a cool dude? Or is

788
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: he just scanders like everybody says that was man? He Uh,

789
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: he's a he's weird. He's very weird. But but he's

790
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: a genius. He's weird because he's a genius. And most

791
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: people I've been around that's that talented, that's that gifted,

792
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: is some kind of thing about them that's just kind

793
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: of off. So like he his that dude is just

794
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: about music and about women and everything everything every other

795
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: extension him it comes from them two things. So when

796
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: you're working with him, it's tons of women around when

797
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: you win the studio, if the women don't like what

798
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: you're working on, you're gonna erase the ship and start over.

799
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: Women are there to tell the nigga if it's good

800
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: or not. And he gonna listen to the women over

801
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: listening to anybody else. That's why he That's why he

802
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: should sound like that. And yeah, the nigga, you know,

803
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: he just he freaky nigga. You know what I'm saying.

804
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about the whole all the

805
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: kids and all that kind of ship. I know all

806
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: the time I spent around him, all the brawls that

807
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: was there. They was getting paid handsomely to be there

808
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: doing they was doing, and what none of them upset about? Nothing, right,

809
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: That's what I could say about that was outside of that,

810
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was a lot of music.

811
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: We was working on, the best of both worlds. Part two. Yeah,

812
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be what I was about to

813
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: ask you. That was supposed to be and Man Woman.

814
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be Birdman and R Kelly supposed

815
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: to be Birdman and R Kelly instead of uh Kelly

816
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: and jay Z. Kelly and jay Z had fell out

817
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: and we all flew up to Chicago. He's like, man,

818
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: come on, let's get done. Is what happened. We had

819
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: we was on tour um with Nelly them after that

820
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: first trial situation of his and booing Gotti. Baby had

821
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: just signed him. We was in Chicago and they wanted

822
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: to bring him out on stage and he was scared.

823
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: He was like, they're gonna boom me. They're gonna boom me.

824
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: So we all backstage trying to pump him up to

825
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: come up, come on out. The nigga came out, they

826
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: did Yester together, everybody went crazy, and then it was

827
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: that was it. He was back on because he had

828
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: been like out of the just like out of the

829
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: way for a while after that little trial situation at

830
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: the first one and uh after that, he just kind

831
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: of felt like, man, Baby, I oh you because like you,

832
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, gave me my mojo back kind of some

833
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: ship like that. So he was like he had fell

834
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: out with jay z Um, they still got he still

835
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: got an obligation to do the best of both worlds.

836
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: So he's like, well, I me and you just do it.

837
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: And that boy and the baby was exciting, and Baby

838
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, man, I gotta get my people on this.

839
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: He was like, I need teach you riding some ship.

840
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I need fresh doing some beats. I need Jazzy on

841
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: this ship. And he wayne up here, and so Kelly

842
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: was like, man, y'all, just come on up here and

843
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: stay with me. We do all the ship at the

844
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: house and we have parties, we have pool parties, have

845
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: bitches all over the place, and let's just do some

846
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: rock star ship. Sure enough, we went up there and

847
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: that's what we did. Yeah, well man, and what was

848
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: the end result of that? You know what I gotta ask?

849
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Uh so so, so you know you said when you

850
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: said that was supposed to be that Part two was

851
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be even him right, So basically, I don't

852
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: know what happened, But like Nikki, Kelly just all of

853
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: a sudden flip. I don't know if he stopped answering

854
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: the phone, but we stopped working with the nigga stopped

855
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: going up there all of a sudden, Best of both

856
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: worlds Part two was out with him and fucking jay Z.

857
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: They didn't know nothing about it. And boy, you're talking

858
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: about hurt, but we was all hurt. Nigga. It was

859
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: all sad because I have our six songs on that motherfucker.

860
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is I'm about to bounce after this.

861
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, boy, when this album comes out, I got

862
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: some I got some copyright on this one. At the time,

863
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of you know, I was getting it

864
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: was getting towards the end of it, I was I

865
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do my own thing. I was falling

866
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: off overseas and like it was a big chunk of

867
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: my money that used to come from overseas before I

868
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: even went to cash money. And the nigga just would

869
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: never let me, just never wanted me to go. Any

870
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: time I would have a tour or something, somebody come

871
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: up with something for me to do, he would always, well,

872
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: how much money you ain't gonna pay you. I'll tell

873
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: him he said, I'll give you more than that, And

874
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I end up staying. And then once it got towards

875
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: the end of it, I'm like, man, I gotta I

876
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: got some other other opportunities. So I had a situation

877
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: for myself at Warner Brothers after this deal was over

878
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: and this last the option for the last year was

879
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: my option wasn't there. So when that option came up, man,

880
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: I just bounced and I thought I was gonna be

881
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: able to bounce with that best of both worlds part two,

882
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: you know under my Belt. Yeah, oh that nigga low

883
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: down for that. But again, like I don't know what

884
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: happened behind closed doors. I know what I know Birdman

885
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: was was he was shocked. As far as he was concerned,

886
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: he was shocked. We was all shocked because the album

887
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: was the ship. If I could have got away with

888
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: them songs, nigga, who them niggas had a them niggas

889
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: had a masterpiece. I don't know where them songs at.

890
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who got ownership of them or what

891
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: because I ain't heard him nowhere, But like them niggas

892
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: had a banger. And literally this was at the time

893
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: at the time Baby was on some Looking back, I

894
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: think he was just I think he was kind of

895
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: hurt behind the hot boys. He felt like they did

896
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: him some kind of way, which they didn't. It's kind

897
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: of the other way around. But the nigga was just

898
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: in this mode where this nigga turned down so many people.

899
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: He could have had t I could have had Jeezy

900
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: uh Bone, Thugs Webb and Boosey Jacket edge Um, and

901
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: then there was so many artists that could have signed

902
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: it cash money. That's like popping right now that he

903
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: literally is like, nah, Slim, I don't want to sign them.

904
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Oh so he could have had all of them. He

905
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: could have had jeez, you know them. Hell yeah, he

906
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: could have fifty cents. Hell yeah, he could have had

907
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: so many people. But he's just like he's tellings no

908
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: nothing right. That's that's so damn like, ain't gonna tell

909
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: you what's shining like, man, you know what's sing like? Yeah, man,

910
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: oh no, you know. But but the thing is, though, man,

911
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: we gotta start doing better. Man's um black executives, man,

912
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: because all will give you know, just like we SIMI.

913
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: You know, we're having a little fun man, baby is

914
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: you know Baby and Slim they've done some incredible things

915
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: in the game. Man, you can't dispute that. And you

916
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: know he with r Kelly, Man, his situation is unfortunate. Man.

917
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: But this is what I think would have kept like

918
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: R Kelly. R Kelly can't read it write. A lot

919
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: of people don't know that, right. R Kelly kind of

920
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: like a T said, R Kelly is weird. R Kelly

921
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of thinks like a fifteen sixteen year old kid. Yeah,

922
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: that's how I was mine, you know, so I think

923
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: that's what the thing he was. Man, he probably feels

924
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: more comfortable with around younger people. I wasn't there, so

925
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: I will never sit up in the ques no man,

926
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, allegedly, you know, he's doing some other stuff.

927
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, to me, you know, even with his situation,

928
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: different parents knew what they was getting into. You let

929
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: your daughter go up there an audition with R Kelly.

930
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: Come on, man, man, listen. I spend time at the

931
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: man house. I spent time working with the man. I

932
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: got songs with the man and and then it it'sn't

933
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: been tons of women around the place. And at the

934
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: same time, I wasn't there all the time. I don't

935
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: know what didn't happened since then, this was a long

936
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: time ago. I know during the time that I was there,

937
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: everyone and that was and some of them I went

938
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: in depth with conversation. They were telling me about the houses,

939
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: they didn't got, they didn't got put through college, they

940
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: did this, did that. It seemed just like a cool

941
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: situation for everybody involved. You know, Kills did a lot

942
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: of ships, Man, Kills a lot of ship for a

943
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: lot of people. Man. I think it's one of them things. Man.

944
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: You know how they say, you know, first they love you,

945
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: then they hate you. It's just like, man, the media

946
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: love to destroy artists. Man. Yeah, they find something man

947
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: to run with. Man, they just running with it. They

948
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: got it hard on for that, Yeah, they got a

949
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: hard on for it. Man. And you know, nobody really,

950
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: nobody really knows the truth of what went on. Man.

951
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: It's just a sad situation. Man. But you got some

952
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: real cool ship going on right now though. Man, It's

953
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: way different outside the lame the music ship though. I do.

954
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: I do. Me and my boy started up started a

955
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: sports magazine website called Franchise Sports Media out here in

956
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Um, it's a you know what, it's a

957
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: it's a unique place for sports. Um. It's my second home.

958
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I've been had a place up here for years. I

959
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: would I used to go back and forth between home

960
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: and here until I just moved up here all the

961
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: way two years ago. And yeah, you know when the

962
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: Golden Knights came here, the hockey team, they came here,

963
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: and they did real well out of nowhere and this town,

964
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: like when they lost their minds for the hockey team

965
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: and the experience. It's like going to a Laker game.

966
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: It's Vegas, so it's the entertainment. They all about the

967
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: entertainment surrounding the game. So the kids are into it,

968
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: the old folks is into it, the niggas is into it,

969
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: the Mexicans into it. And when you know, man, I

970
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: never gave a funk about no howk. But you go

971
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: to one of these games up here to presentation, it

972
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: takes you to the next level and it's kind of spreading.

973
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: And the Raiders that's my team already, and it's starting

974
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: to become like a sports town with that's like a

975
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: little small college town with a big sports population. So man,

976
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: we we ended up um getting official media credential for

977
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders, for the Golden Nights, UM, the Dodgers and

978
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: the Lakers too, because this city is just a just

979
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: a transplant of a bunch of l a people, to

980
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: be honest, and we've been doing pretty well. Man. It's

981
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: it's we we we report the sports in a different way.

982
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: We curate our own highlight reels. Um. We get into

983
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: the recruiting with the kids. We shoot a lot of

984
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: eight they they reels for for their recruiting and stuff

985
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: like that. Um, we shoot all that, all of the

986
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: Raider games, the v g K games, the UNLV games,

987
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: and it's growing. Man, It's it's a lot of fun.

988
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, everybody in the music and most

989
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: artists wanted to play balls in kind of way and

990
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: vice versa. So it's just kind of you know, I

991
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: always dreamed of playing football first. Then I stopped growing,

992
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: so I went to my second love, which was doing music.

993
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: And not that I'm never gonna stop doing that, but man,

994
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: shoot on Sundays, I'm at the stadium on the sideline

995
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: with my camera. Bro. You always have been heavy in

996
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: the football specifically. Man. Yeah, yeah, we got we gotta

997
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: get you where you validated, Man, where you got the

998
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: pass for the Trojan games? Man, we get everything back

999
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: open up? Man. Yeah, hell yeah. I'll be down there, bro,

1000
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: because I'm actually shooting myself. So you know a lot

1001
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: of them, a lot of the Raider highlights and stuff

1002
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: that you'll see on our site. It's it's Franchise Sports

1003
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Media dot Com. That's me actually on the sideline with

1004
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: the camera. Like it's fun and it's like the because

1005
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: I led a team so much and I led a game,

1006
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: so much like being down there on the sideline and here,

1007
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: what's actually going on? And you're a whole lot of

1008
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: perspective when you you you own a media company, you

1009
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's it's a way too

1010
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: to really bring the sports news to the people in

1011
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: a way that's just not dry, like you know this

1012
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: is this is it's dry, and I'm trying to be

1013
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: trying to wet up a little bit. Well, you always

1014
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: have been, like on the cup, like that's always respected

1015
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: your business acumen, because it seems like you always had

1016
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: something going on outside of music, like a real business. Um.

1017
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: What was the thing you had man, where you used

1018
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: to help the kids go to college? Man of the

1019
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: Black Universities everything? Yeah, yeah, NCR, National College Resources, um,

1020
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: Black College expot and it's expanded now. It's like it's huge,

1021
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: But you just used around when it first started. Those dude,

1022
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: he's one of the first people I talked about it.

1023
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: Talk to your body, Are you still doing it? Yeah,

1024
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: we're still doing it, man, it's just it's going to

1025
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: the point where my manager is just it's at a

1026
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: different level now. It's like fourteen different cities. Um, we

1027
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: didn't got to three hundred thousand kids in school over

1028
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: the time that we've done it. And we have these

1029
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: expos basically where kids could just come to this expo,

1030
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: bring your transcripts, bring your essay T or a C

1031
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: T scores, and literally get signed up right there. What

1032
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: we do is we have the colleges that come and participate.

1033
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: We haven't waived all their application fees and all of

1034
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: that other stuff, and the kids just show up and

1035
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like, for lack of a better word,

1036
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: it's like a meat market, but it's a meat market

1037
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: for the kids too. You can literally go and interview

1038
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: schools for the experience that you want, and um, it's

1039
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: been working man. It's like it's just the more you expand,

1040
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: the more you find the need. A lot of these

1041
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: kids were qualified to to get higher education if they

1042
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: want to, but they just don't have the information which

1043
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: is the bridge to get them there. And like that's

1044
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: that's that's very serious. If it's just literally you meeting

1045
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: somebody that would allow you to get in school when

1046
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: you when you're thinking that you have no shot because

1047
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, you in Houston and in the hood somewhere

1048
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: and you ain't got no money and you ain't got

1049
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: no scholarship. Man. It's so it's still so many opportunities,

1050
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: but it's hell to find them. So it's all about

1051
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: linking linking these kids with people. Man. It's some listen, bro,

1052
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: it's some horror stories as far as the situation that

1053
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: black children, black teenagers are in today, and I'm talking

1054
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: about before depending like we are struggling to catch up

1055
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: in education and social skills and everything else because the

1056
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: breakdown of our families. Hey, bro it it that's the

1057
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 1: pandemic for us people. That's hard pandemic. And we gotta

1058
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: we gotta pay attention because we can't afford to lose

1059
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: the whole generation. Hey, we came for to lose the

1060
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: whole generation. Bro. So this this program, um, Black College

1061
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: expot dot com, NCR dot com. Everybody that's watching this

1062
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: and you want to get your kid in school. You

1063
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: know a kid is under privilege that needs to get

1064
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: in school. Go to either one of those websites or

1065
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: just look up Just go to Google and look up

1066
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: Black College Expo. We got the ship on a lot.

1067
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: You will find us. Um, it don't make no sense.

1068
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: In two thousand twenty one for black kids that want

1069
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: to get into school to not get into school because

1070
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: they can't. And you know what, man, the one thing

1071
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: that coverage gives you I always tell people, Man, the

1072
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: degree from from a college, Man is a great thing, right.

1073
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: It's the social skills and it's the network of people

1074
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: that you meet. And it's a good thing because I've

1075
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: seen guys come from other confident Watts and they go

1076
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: to school somewhere, they go down, they go out of town,

1077
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: they go to Atlanta, they go to Colorado on different places,

1078
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: and they come back and hold different people talking because

1079
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: they've seen something different outside the hood. And me and

1080
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: James we are getting our nonprofit start, you know, kicked

1081
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: off man. We could be working with a nonprofit called

1082
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: Fathers to Fathers and we have some incredible stuff we're doing. Man,

1083
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: meet and James and eight. You know, we've got to

1084
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: speak for the home eight too. He's not here tonight,

1085
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, but we would love to get

1086
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: involved with that with you man. Just as far as

1087
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: getting word out, man, I think absolutely. Hell yeah, bro,

1088
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: we exchange that information. Um, we'll link you' all onto

1089
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: the site, y'all link us back and let's ship, let's link.

1090
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: We got man, we got programs going on in Land

1091
01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: Will Unified, l A, Unified, UM, Inglewood across across the

1092
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: whole city. Like we got programs going in all the

1093
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: schools for for STEM, for for everything everything, Like even

1094
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: even though we I mean we even got the Latin

1095
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: College Expo. Now like since the last time I talked

1096
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: to you, it's expanded by the graceful guy. Like people

1097
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: have really came in and started to help with money.

1098
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is bottom line, you can

1099
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: have ideas all day, you can have execution all day.

1100
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: You ain't got money, you ain't gonna be able to

1101
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: help nobody. And it's a lot of people with money

1102
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: that I want to help and just don't know how

1103
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: to help. It's just it's all about trying to find

1104
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: ways to bridge these gaps. Its ways people people, People

1105
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: that want to give money away can get all kinds

1106
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: of kickbacks and all kinds of extra perks for their

1107
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: life just because they gave the money away and they

1108
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: want to get the money away. So it's like we

1109
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: we just um, we just had an online galla uh

1110
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: to be last month, um trying to raise some money

1111
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: to expand some more. So that's what it's about, man,

1112
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: It's about if we get these kids it's cool, then

1113
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: then the people that's running the country won't have us

1114
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: in the type of situation that we in right now. Right,

1115
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: That's it. It's like we we gotta make a farm team, bro,

1116
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: just like the baseball teams do. Got plant the Sea's

1117
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: gotta contivate them and put them into places where they

1118
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: need to be to lead us. The only way we're

1119
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna do that is with education, right yeah. Man, that's

1120
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: one thing that means James always say, man, that we

1121
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: have to use this platform. Man. You know that the

1122
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: platform man is dope. Man, we come on and tell

1123
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: these stories. But me and James, and I think I

1124
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: speak for James too when he can elaborate if he

1125
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: wants to um. Our biggest thing is to get this

1126
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: type of information out to the neighborhood. Man. Yeah, for

1127
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: the people that's watching, for the kid that may be

1128
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: watching this. There's somewhere in Uston Dallas Comfence, somewhere in

1129
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: his room thinking like, Man, I want to go to

1130
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: school and make a change, because we got to catch

1131
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: the kids when they early. And James He speaks on

1132
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: that all the time, man, about the importance of catching

1133
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: these guys when they are young like that do make

1134
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: a change, because there's people man. You know, literally when

1135
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: you turn sixteen and seventeen. Man, it's like you at

1136
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: the four in the row, you can need to go

1137
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: this way or that way, right, you know what I'm saying.

1138
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: And younger than that, even younger than that. Man. Uh.

1139
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: You know a lot of kids don't have a sense

1140
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: of belonging to something. They don't. They don't they don't

1141
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: have nobody that care. Now, if you got a program

1142
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: and theydn't know they can go to college, They're gonna

1143
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: go to school so they can go to college. I

1144
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: think that it's a saint. It's a saint in Los Angeles.

1145
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: Her name is Dr Teresa Price, Dr Teresa Right. She's

1146
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: the director of Black College Expo National College Resources, and

1147
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: she getting kids in school left and right. Right, ain't

1148
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 1: no way in hell. I mean, it's it's at least

1149
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: worth a try, you know what I'm saying. I'm not

1150
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 1: gonna sit up here and promise the world to every

1151
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: single child and say that every single child that can

1152
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: get in school. But bro, I have seen some stories.

1153
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: I have seen some situations where I was saying to myself,

1154
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: ain't no way in hell nobody excepting this mother, and

1155
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: she is too. I'm thinking two or three of them

1156
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: right now, one in medical school, a nurse, and one

1157
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: trying to run for office. Literally, man, literally, man. It's

1158
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: it's all about some kind of foundation. A lot of

1159
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: times they missed that foundation. The community has to find

1160
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 1: a way to put our arms around them and build

1161
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: an alternate foundation, because every every kid needs some kind

1162
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: of foundation, right. I gotta have it exactly, man, Like

1163
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: I said, Man, that's a beautiful thing. Man, and you

1164
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: can come this see in Man, what was the lady's

1165
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: name again? Dr Teresa Tosa Price? Drresa Pricing right there now, man,

1166
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: because because because see people like man, and that's the

1167
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: important stuff. Man. We spend a lot of times as

1168
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: blacks man being stuck on bullshit. Yeah, you know, because

1169
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: somebody has skip over all this good information that we're

1170
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: giving right now and they want to go back and

1171
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: hear us talk about you know, a bird man was

1172
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: doing this and tell me this. You know, they want

1173
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: to hear that. They want to hear the bullshit, you

1174
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? We got to hear him a

1175
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: little bit of that to give him the stuff like this,

1176
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: you know that. But that's a beautiful thing. Man. Any

1177
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: Way we can be involved in health, man, because that's

1178
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: our big core mission right now. We are going to

1179
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: actually be going to the city of Dallas. We're getting

1180
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 1: that stuff worked out right now. You know, this COVID

1181
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: stuff makes stuff kind of you gotta move the right way. Know,

1182
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: you gotta move the right way because everybody's gotta be safe. Man.

1183
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: But that's shooting. That's something change we need to bring

1184
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: down here with us. Yeah, you go down there because

1185
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: like James said, man, that the average person man that

1186
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: joins the gang man, they are really looking to belong

1187
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: to something and dedicate They like to something, why not

1188
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: dedicated to something positive? And you'd be surprised at how

1189
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: many of them you could slip rights. They don't know that,

1190
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, Levis and the T shirt and the khakis

1191
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: and the hat, that's all they know. Put the brothers

1192
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: and shooting and watch your smile, watch you and be like, oh, yeah,

1193
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm surety shocked. You know. That's all you gotta do

1194
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: is give him a chance you can change, and they yeah,

1195
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: you can they'd be ready to go that, man, Yeah, yeah,

1196
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: and when what I want to do, all the links

1197
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: to the stuff that t Q was talking about will

1198
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: be in the um looking the description of the show.

1199
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: We have all the links right there. Man. Let's let's

1200
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: go out there. Let's see somebody get blissed. Man. You know,

1201
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: instead of just delivering bad news all the time, let's

1202
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: hear some positive stories. Let's do some talking. Man. Let's

1203
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: look up a couple of years from now, somebody said

1204
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: they was watching this, they was watching this episode and

1205
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: they got in school. I mean we're doing something right. Yeah, exactly, man, exactly, man,

1206
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm serious. Tis, I'm gonna be on you

1207
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: because we already got some stuff going on with the

1208
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: sports stuff that I'm plugging you with. Man, be on

1209
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: you about this. Man, Let's go see Dr Teresa. Man, Man,

1210
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: that's nothing, that's easy. Dr Teresa is the person that

1211
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: got me in the music industry. And she went from

1212
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: the music and from radio to the music industry to

1213
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: doing this and this is what she's been doing ever since.

1214
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: And in my in my music career, a lot of

1215
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: a lot of me getting out there was performing at

1216
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: this expo because it was so big. Like we man,

1217
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: we had fifty sixty kids at the l A Can

1218
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: interesting and every year that's still our biggest one. So

1219
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: this is the first time we did it since what

1220
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: I think two thousands. Because of COVID, we had to

1221
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: do the virtual version mm hmm yeah yeah see and

1222
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: see that's why it's important man that we get that

1223
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: message out there. Man. I really appreciate you. Man, We

1224
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you man coming on man. Yeah, and then thank

1225
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: you all for having me, bro. Thank congratulations on the deal,

1226
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 1: on the success and all of that. Man. I like

1227
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: what y'are doing. Bro. Thank you're bading me anytime? Oh

1228
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: for sure. Man, we didn't go ahead, we we we

1229
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: definitely go ab you back man again. Man, Like I said,

1230
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man. There we go. Man. I guess

1231
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: that's another episode right there. Man. Remember keep the Homeboy

1232
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: REGs you right in constant prayer. Um, our brother is

1233
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: out there fighting right now. Man. Uh, he's fighting right now.

1234
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 1: I know James had an update. Um he got updated

1235
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: on him when we Saturday. James, Yeah, the same thing

1236
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: he said. He moving his eyes. Um, they're keeping him

1237
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: up under uh that Anesthesias ship. They're keeping him sleep,

1238
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: So it sounds serious to me. But Reggie's a fighter,

1239
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: Reggie fighting if he wouldn't need to give up a

1240
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: long time ago, and I'm just praying for him. And

1241
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: well there, you know, like I said, my sister got

1242
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: it and my full little cousins got it, and it

1243
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to play with. It's real ship. That that

1244
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: ship is real. So then I had it all December, bro.

1245
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: It's it's it's nothing to play with. Anybody out there

1246
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: that think that ship is just some I don't wish

1247
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: that ship, don't nobody. So if you ain't got to

1248
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: get it, don't get it right. It's definitely, it's definitely.

1249
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: You know, I went through it. I went through my

1250
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: boat with it, man. And then that's the thing about it, man,

1251
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: because when we caught it, man, my daughter had the

1252
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: first and she just only had a headache for a

1253
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: couple of days. My wife, she was still running around

1254
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: the house like it wasn't up wrong. And that was

1255
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: the scary part about it, because she could have been

1256
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: out there interacting with people are doing everything it was.

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