Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and Michael Kaufman and iHeart
Speaker 1: Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: We have two more days until we're free.
Speaker 3: But as you're saying earlier.
Speaker 2: Well, no, they don't know what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 3: Well, off air, it's going quick.
Speaker 2: Off air, it was like doom and gloom, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean we're doing this? Once we said
Speaker 2: the first three days were really hard, and then it
Speaker 2: was like we need to, Like because I was talking
Speaker 2: to my friend pamelin back home and I said, once
Speaker 2: we set a schedule for each day, like, it just
Speaker 2: helps everything. I think it helps my anxiety too. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I know from ten to eleven we're outside, eleven to
Speaker 2: twelve is lunch, twelve thirty, j just goes down, you know.
Speaker 2: And I feel like it's made the days go by
Speaker 2: a lot faster.
Speaker 3: It has what I'm realizing, my tape job on my
Speaker 3: headphones is coming off with what is going on. What
Speaker 3: I'm is, I'm like, why does this feel so different?
Speaker 3: Because we spent so much the last year like not leaving,
Speaker 3: not doing anything. But I'm like, well, last year we
Speaker 3: could still technically leave the house, Like I still went
Speaker 3: to the grocery.
Speaker 2: Store and you went to home depot. I'm like, honey,
Speaker 2: is that essential going down? She's like building this thing
Speaker 2: for the kids. Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And but I'm like, now these two weeks we
Speaker 3: weren't allowed to go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not it's not a recommended, it's a
Speaker 2: you're staying or you'll go to jail for right six months.
Speaker 3: It's like, if we want to run the risk.
Speaker 2: I'm dying, doant drink some mon?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Your so.
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, we run the risk of someone actually coming
Speaker 3: to the house and doing like a house call and
Speaker 3: checking it we're here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh which, sorry, that just scared me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I think they just showed up.
Speaker 3: Is your wardrobe guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, it's it's been and that part, that
Speaker 2: part was what was giving me anxiety. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, there's people online that were like, stop complaining,
Speaker 2: like we're all in a pandemic right now, We're all
Speaker 2: can't we all can't leave. And I'm like, that's technically not.
Speaker 2: I mean in California you can't really, but it's like
Speaker 2: you're still go somewhere right, No.
Speaker 3: One, here's the thing again, here's the difference. No one's
Speaker 3: gonna possibly show up at your door to make sure
Speaker 3: you're at home. You have the freedom to leave. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in theory we could, but we run the risk of
Speaker 3: getting like a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine
Speaker 3: or possible imprisonment. I really don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: No, and we've already done it like we're used to.
Speaker 2: I think what I said to someone, I was like, honestly,
Speaker 2: it's just about the comfort of your own home. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know we talked about that last week, but I uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like wherever I am with y'all is home.
Speaker 3: We do a good job at making that happen for
Speaker 3: ourselves and for the kids.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to Peter, but Wednesday we're going to
Speaker 2: the zoo. I got us lined up to go to
Speaker 2: the van Uber Zoo on Wednesday, nice little tour. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: you know what's so ironically sad about that? What I
Speaker 2: just thought of it, This is terrible. We're free that day,
Speaker 2: but the animals are not free, you know. We're like,
Speaker 2: we're basically the caged animals right now.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying when we go to the zoo
Speaker 3: and we're cast suck at line. We're free.
Speaker 2: No, but I feel bad. No, but I genuinely feel bad.
Speaker 2: Now now I get it, like I'm a we're zoo goers.
Speaker 3: We are we are zoo goers, and.
Speaker 2: Now I'm oh my god. They live that life every day.
Speaker 2: They can't roam free, they can't. I feel terrible.
Speaker 3: You can all of a sudden become a non zoo goer.
Speaker 2: Peta, Yeah, I feel terrible now after we go to
Speaker 2: Vancouverso yeah, after because I need to get out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we celebrated Valentine's Day in lockdown quarantine and
Speaker 3: we made them most of it.
Speaker 2: Last Valentine's Day we were also well, it was pretty
Speaker 2: much like well, we weren't locked down yet because that
Speaker 2: was March, but we spent it at home. Remember, we
Speaker 2: made homemade pasta and we ended up having to so
Speaker 2: last Valentine's Day, Mike was really wanting wanting it to
Speaker 2: be special because we just kind of went through a
Speaker 2: little thing last January, and he was just he was
Speaker 2: putting so much pressure to make homemade pasta and basically
Speaker 2: it ended up looking like yogurt.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just I second guessed myself because I
Speaker 3: was going by this recipe, and the recipe was like, oh, basically,
Speaker 3: you don't have to boil the pasta before you put
Speaker 3: it in the pot with the sauce. I was like,
Speaker 3: what that doesn't make freaking sense. But all right, like
Speaker 3: who am I to say otherwise? And then it's just
Speaker 3: like doughey, limp noodles.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. It was one big bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was like we were noodles back to
Speaker 3: their home, which became one big ball of dough.
Speaker 2: Oh were those things that my grandma used to make dumplings? Dumplings?
Speaker 2: They looks like one big dumpling.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we ended up ordering food.
Speaker 2: No, we ended up making well, yeah, so yeah, we
Speaker 2: ended up making or No, we ended up ordering from
Speaker 2: a place in Nashville. But this so this Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: I was like, babe, let's just get pre made noodles,
Speaker 2: let's get some fasta sauce.
Speaker 3: You're lucky we're not home. I'll totally try to redo
Speaker 3: it and do it right this time.
Speaker 2: But it was great. A little bath, a little airwork.
Speaker 3: It was a good day.
Speaker 2: I wonder though, because a lot of people don't like
Speaker 2: to celebrate Valentine's Day because they call it like a
Speaker 2: hallmark holiday.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, then what's Mother's Day?
Speaker 3: Appreciate mothers?
Speaker 2: Well, then what's Valentine's Day? A day to appreciate your.
Speaker 3: Day for making money for all these companies Christmas?
Speaker 2: Remember we learned about Christmas what Christmas was when we
Speaker 2: were watching the Scrooge and we looked at when did
Speaker 2: Christmas actually start? And was to make money for the companies?
Speaker 2: Remember when we looked that up. So it's like the
Speaker 2: same thing. I mean, it's all essentially the same.
Speaker 3: Well, no, our question was when did Christmas become commercialized? Right?
Speaker 2: But it became commercialized because of the money and right.
Speaker 3: But there's still you know, the wise men brought gifts.
Speaker 2: Why are men so against Valentine's Day? Like you're fighting Valide?
Speaker 3: Because here's the deal. Here's the deal. It's not really
Speaker 3: a if you.
Speaker 2: Say here's the deal twice or like more serious, No,
Speaker 2: if I.
Speaker 3: Say it three times and I'm really serious. So here's
Speaker 3: the deal. It's they don't put a name on it,
Speaker 3: and it's in terms of Mother's Day or Father's Day
Speaker 3: where it's one specific person. Right, But the way society
Speaker 3: has been it puts the pressure on the mail to
Speaker 3: have a you know, give a great gesture of love
Speaker 3: and the women just naturally are the receivers of that,
Speaker 3: and it's like false. Wait a second. You get your birthday,
Speaker 3: you get Mother's Day for your mother, we get Christmas anniversaries.
Speaker 3: You're telling me that we have to take another day
Speaker 3: out of a month and say, hey, honey, here's all
Speaker 3: the stuff to show that I love you.
Speaker 2: Because you don't have to be money. You could just
Speaker 2: write a nice handwritten card and say I really value
Speaker 2: and love you and you're my Valentine.
Speaker 3: Mark. Done good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never asked for any gift on Valentine's The
Speaker 2: only reason you got me last year was because you
Speaker 2: ruined Christmas and got me a biday for Christmas.
Speaker 3: Okay, some cultures, that's a win.
Speaker 4: Mark.
Speaker 3: Can you back me up on this? Do you feel
Speaker 3: more pressure that's next for you? Do you feel more
Speaker 3: pressure as a male for Valentine's Day? I do.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm very much enjoying the show. I
Speaker 1: was muted, but I was laughing out loud. So I
Speaker 1: just wanted you guys to know that I think that
Speaker 1: they're all Hallmark holidays. All holidays are made up, so
Speaker 1: I don't see why one is more than the other.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I can go with you
Speaker 1: on that, Michael. No one really knows when Jesus was born.
Speaker 3: They just picked a day.
Speaker 1: But yes, there's a lot of pressure. And I have
Speaker 1: an issue because my wife's birthday is two weeks before
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and it's all right after Christmas, so it's
Speaker 1: like three under row bam bam bama. So I gotta
Speaker 1: plot it out. I gotta start planning, and I got to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a list in my notes section
Speaker 1: in my phone where I can like organize what goes
Speaker 1: to what birthday and what goes to Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: what goes to Christmas.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I'm going to be out of luck.
Speaker 2: Welcome to being a woman. We have that, I have that,
Speaker 2: like the whole year planned out, like Father's Day, that
Speaker 2: his birthday. I mean, that's just what a woman does.
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of you that you even have that,
Speaker 2: because I have to be like Mike, write it down.
Speaker 2: I would like it.
Speaker 3: The last time I did that, I got her bed
Speaker 3: day and she hated it because.
Speaker 2: I didn't ask for it, did you kid? Oh my God.
Speaker 2: I literally said, we're going to go back to you, Mark,
Speaker 2: but I know joke. We were at a friend's house
Speaker 2: and I was like, ooh, this warm seat feels really nice.
Speaker 2: You said I didn't want nice as my main gift
Speaker 2: for Christmas.
Speaker 3: Your driver to pick and chooese. I'm the gonna give it.
Speaker 3: It was just the warmth of the seat.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that I don't like. I don't even use
Speaker 2: the spritzer. I don't use the spritzer. I just like
Speaker 2: a heated seat. I like it. I like I like
Speaker 2: a good old heated seat. But I didn't want it
Speaker 2: for Christmas.
Speaker 3: And so the only said a lot of money on
Speaker 3: that one, Mike, I don't know, because then I ended
Speaker 3: up paying having to pay for it to double down
Speaker 3: this last Christmas too.
Speaker 2: Oh it needed to be spectacular.
Speaker 3: And I killed it.
Speaker 2: So it's okay, no, but that's the thing. And this
Speaker 2: is what I told him, because we actually got into
Speaker 2: a huge fight about it because he's like, I was like, you,
Speaker 2: what you don't get and what you're missing is that
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how much you spend. I mean, sure,
Speaker 2: diamonds are great. Every woman loves diamonds. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's the intention, the intent and the intention behind the gift.
Speaker 2: He got me this thing from probably uncommon goods. It
Speaker 2: probably was like maybe a hundred bucks, and it was
Speaker 2: the most thoughtful gift I've ever gotten from him. It
Speaker 2: was like it was a Chicago map where we met.
Speaker 2: It was like a little heart pin and I it
Speaker 2: was just like, Wow, that's so sweet, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I love that more than the diamond this you gave
Speaker 2: to me that I wear once, you know. So it's
Speaker 2: truly for women. It's about the intention, and I think
Speaker 2: going back to Valentine's Day, it's just about appreciation and
Speaker 2: telling that person you appreciate them and that you love them.
Speaker 2: That you don't have to do grand gestures. But sure,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that we get four things out of
Speaker 2: the year to show that it should be every day
Speaker 2: and that.
Speaker 3: You should Valentine's Day and that of course defense rest.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're no no. What I'm saying is
Speaker 2: like we should have we should have every day. You
Speaker 2: should show us that you appreciate and love us and
Speaker 2: write little sweet notes. But can you at least do
Speaker 2: four out of three hundred and sixty five or however
Speaker 2: many days there are in a year.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't get actually better when we do do
Speaker 3: more than.
Speaker 2: That, Sure you do. We're a lot softer and nicer.
Speaker 2: What are you laughing at, Mark.
Speaker 3: I'm just enjoying this. This is I mean, because you
Speaker 3: make really good points. You both make a really good point.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: You know what, Mark, I'm going to put that to
Speaker 3: the test in the year twenty twenty one where Valentine's
Speaker 3: or we already did Valentine's and I had no choice
Speaker 3: but to be just sentimental and cheap. But move forward
Speaker 3: Mother's Day, birthday, anniversary.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you have to be I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like there's.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go super inexpensive and just sentimental. And guess
Speaker 3: what one of those days is going to be a
Speaker 3: lottery pick where she's gonna get the grand slam of
Speaker 3: no material gift. All she's gonna get is eye contact
Speaker 3: intentional words. I'm saying, Honey, I love, I appreciate you
Speaker 3: so much, and that'll be your gift. It's got to
Speaker 3: be written down.
Speaker 2: Already down to you like you sound kind of like
Speaker 2: you sound kind of arrogant right now, like you got
Speaker 2: it at least like like I said, frame it, you know,
Speaker 2: and I did that and it was amazing. It was
Speaker 2: my favorite gift. And I still haven't.
Speaker 3: You just said, you said, how do I sound arrogant?
Speaker 2: Well, you just sound kind of like like we don't
Speaker 2: deserve I'm gonna write something down and make a card.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that's part of it. I'm saying,
Speaker 3: if you really think there's no material isn't behind it?
Speaker 2: For Valentine's Day? No, I don't think so. For a birthday?
Speaker 2: And for Christmas, yeah, I think you know something nice,
Speaker 2: you know, if that's what we agree on. If not
Speaker 2: for like kay, let's just do the deck next year,
Speaker 2: then we agree on it. But I'm not that girl
Speaker 2: to say I want a deck for Christmas, you know,
Speaker 2: like most couples say, like it's our couch. I don't
Speaker 2: want a couch for Christmas, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I would like a nice pair of shoes. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be like, well we had we spent a
Speaker 2: lot of money on the couch this year. When you
Speaker 2: buy yourself ten guns, you know. Anyways, I rest my case,
Speaker 2: and now we're gonna get comments of how materialistic and
Speaker 2: whatever we are.
Speaker 1: No I think you make a good point. I think
Speaker 1: it's a combination. It's got to be sentimental. But gifts
Speaker 1: are nice. Everyone loves getting gifts. Valentine's Day, Birthday, Mother's Day,
Speaker 1: the four days a year, guys have to step up.
Speaker 1: I think that's the message.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing. I have no issue with it.
Speaker 3: It's hmm, or don't.
Speaker 2: Sound like you have an issue, like you get.
Speaker 4: Four days out of the year.
Speaker 3: Where I have the issue is when at times women
Speaker 3: will say, oh, it's not about this, it's not about that.
Speaker 3: I just want to know I'm appreciated. I don't know
Speaker 3: it yet, No, no matter what it is, and or
Speaker 3: even we even said who is it? Your brother? Your
Speaker 3: brother and his fiancee. They even said, hey, don't get it.
Speaker 3: Don't She even said, don't get me a gift, and
Speaker 3: he said okay. And the day come, he didn't get
Speaker 3: her a gift, she said, and she got him with
Speaker 3: she said, what the where's my gift? He said, you
Speaker 3: told me not to get you a gift.
Speaker 2: Well, that's different. I've never told you not to get
Speaker 2: me something.
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm not saying you have I'm just saying
Speaker 3: women in general, this Yeah, that is a thing out
Speaker 3: there where if men, if you and I agreed, hey,
Speaker 3: let's not get an any you know, get each other
Speaker 3: anything for Christmas. As a guy, I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're not getting each other anything for Christmas. You knowing you,
Speaker 3: you'd probably still get me something.
Speaker 2: Of course I would, because I appreciate you. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's about appreciation and being like I appreciate you. Whether
Speaker 2: it's five hundred dollars or five bucks, it's showing appreciation.
Speaker 3: But what if we agreed not to get each.
Speaker 2: I still think you still get something small? God, we
Speaker 2: do so much like we do, We do so much,
Speaker 2: and we all we get are four days. Some only
Speaker 2: get three if they're not a mom.
Speaker 3: You know, well anyway, two each their own.
Speaker 2: I would like to start throwing myself half birthdays now,
Speaker 2: just to prove, just to prove my point of appreciation.
Speaker 2: We're going to celebrate my half birthday.
Speaker 3: Bring it. I'm ready, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Mike intro, our amazing guests for today.
Speaker 3: All right. Speaking that doing too much, this is a
Speaker 3: lady that knows how to do too much successfully. Miss
Speaker 3: Nicole Walters. She was a former employee for a Fortune
Speaker 3: five hundred company, decided to leave that company and start
Speaker 3: her own business and became the CEO and founder of
Speaker 3: her business, which is called Inherit Learning Company, you know,
Speaker 3: in that she specializes in UH business development training, strategic
Speaker 3: coaching for emerging entrepreneurs and established business owners. So we're
Speaker 3: going to have her on and let her teach us
Speaker 3: all about that and pick her brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they also have a show her and her family.
Speaker 2: She's called She's the boss on USA, right, and the
Speaker 2: girls that she has they're actually adopted. So I'm excited
Speaker 2: to hear about that story. And then I also want
Speaker 2: to ask her to she quit her job like on
Speaker 2: like online basically, I mean in front of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of like I'm curious.
Speaker 2: To ask her that. So we'll take one more break
Speaker 2: and then we'll get her on.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so sorry we made you wait? That are okay?
Speaker 2: I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
Speaker 4: Don't be don't even I'm the person who's like, please
Speaker 4: don't send me gifts because I'll never send you thank
Speaker 4: you Notes's let's just own who we are. It's a pandemic,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: It's so funny about the and like we can just
Speaker 2: let's just go right into it. But thank you cards.
Speaker 2: I'm terrible with thank you cards. Yes, I like, can
Speaker 2: I just text you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: That's the thing like if kids' birthday parties, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't have the time. I feel bad, but thanks
Speaker 2: for the unicorn for my daughter, right right exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm always like, why are you even putting me in
Speaker 4: this position? I need thank you cardless friendships. I need
Speaker 4: you to understand I don't want that pressure, you know,
Speaker 4: because it's it's the layers to a thank you card.
Speaker 4: It's I need stamps, I have to get to a
Speaker 4: post office. Well why stamps? Like what is that?
Speaker 2: I well, And here's the thing too with that is
Speaker 2: I'm like, when I get a thank you card, it
Speaker 2: doesn't do anything for me, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just I personally am like, well, of course you
Speaker 2: you're thankful that I you know, like you don't need
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm always and I say to my friends, like,
Speaker 2: you don't need to write a think you card? Like
Speaker 2: do not write a.
Speaker 4: Thank you card? Yes, it's pressure because.
Speaker 2: I'm like and I'm like, it's just wasteless, and like
Speaker 2: I got time to I got to open it. Up.
Speaker 3: I compare it to ringing the doorbell, right. I always
Speaker 3: make the joke like if you ring our doorbell, that
Speaker 3: means you don't belong here. You walk in. You either
Speaker 3: know the door code or you just walk in. So
Speaker 3: if you send me a thank you card, we're not friends.
Speaker 3: You don't know us exactly right.
Speaker 4: It's like, honestly, whenever I get a card, I kind
Speaker 4: of recondo it. I'm like, I hold it to my
Speaker 4: heart and I'm like, Okay, sentiment received, and then I
Speaker 4: throw it in the trash, Like what am I supposed
Speaker 4: to do with this thing? You know? I know, I
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 2: I know we're getting super off topic, but it's kind
Speaker 2: of the same thing. Even like I love doing the
Speaker 2: Christmas cards, but we don't have anywhere to put them,
Speaker 2: so I just feel bad like putting people in a drawer,
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean? Like their whole family in the drawer,
Speaker 4: every single piece of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one that even this past year, I
Speaker 3: was like, Jane, we need like one of those little
Speaker 3: decorative like trees to put it on, because that's the one.
Speaker 3: I do feel bad because I know we go and
Speaker 3: actually these pictures and people put effort and pay money
Speaker 3: to have them professionally done, right, And so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be throwing in a drawer money
Speaker 3: and think.
Speaker 4: About it like I have to buy furniture to display
Speaker 4: your photo at this point, Like I mean, if you
Speaker 4: don't put me in that position, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: This is supposed to be a relationship of depth, Like
Speaker 4: what do we do except it virtually where I can
Speaker 4: then add it to a nice little folder, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, post it on my page, let the
Speaker 4: world know how cute, and then we move on with
Speaker 4: our lives. Like it's what it is. I get it,
Speaker 4: you guys, get me listen.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on our show already. You're just I mean,
Speaker 2: you're a total boss. Can we just back up for
Speaker 2: a second though, because I mean, we insured you in
Speaker 2: the very beginning, but you quit your job online.
Speaker 4: I did live in front of ten thousand people because
Speaker 4: were you?
Speaker 2: Just like I'm done, drop the mic, like what did
Speaker 2: you like?
Speaker 4: What was your classy? Like? I was raised right, just
Speaker 4: like I don't show up at people's houses unannounced, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, I was like raised right. No, it was
Speaker 4: a situ situation where I already had built a place
Speaker 4: for me to go, so like I was going to
Speaker 4: hire myself, Like I knew that I had a thing
Speaker 4: out of myself. Yeah, I had a plan. So it
Speaker 4: was really just I called my boss and I said, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, this isn't an alignment, you know I'm It
Speaker 4: was actually people don't know this. It was right before
Speaker 4: a performance review, so like my annual performance review, and
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, I'm so excited to talk to
Speaker 4: you about all the cool new things for that coming year.
Speaker 4: And I was like, pump the brakes on that because
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be here.
Speaker 3: And that was that I might have if I was
Speaker 3: in your shoes. I ought to wait for the performance
Speaker 3: review just to get that validation, right because you know,
Speaker 3: you probably you know, you probably killed it. Like Nicole,
Speaker 3: you are amazing. We can't we see our future with you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. By the way, I'm.
Speaker 4: Out right right right right. It's like, oh, well, it's
Speaker 4: really funny you say that because I'll be transitioning all
Speaker 4: my logins because yeah, I'm not going to be here.
Speaker 2: So what made you want to do that in front
Speaker 2: of ten thousand people? Like what was that?
Speaker 4: Wow? The incentive so I mean, like, obviously you've had
Speaker 4: the people who are like the flight attendant to like,
Speaker 4: you know, dispatch the emergency thing, and it wasn't one
Speaker 4: of those. Like what it was was I'd been detailing
Speaker 4: my journey online already, so like people saw me building
Speaker 4: the business and getting clients and like I was already
Speaker 4: sharing that. And so the truth was I wasn't planning
Speaker 4: on sharing my quick day ever, Like that was not
Speaker 4: a thing. But I told everyone, Hey, I'm doing it today.
Speaker 4: I'll be back later to let you know how it goes.
Speaker 4: And everyone was like, no, no, no, no, no, keep
Speaker 4: us on the line. We've been following the journey. We
Speaker 4: want to watch it live. So that's what happened. They
Speaker 4: end up seeing the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's very crazy.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And now you have a show. That's when is it airing?
Speaker 2: It's on USA, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on USA. It's airing on February twenty fifth
Speaker 4: at ten thirty pm Eastern on USA network.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then you have three three kids and they're adopted.
Speaker 2: We read that right, So you did you try to
Speaker 2: have kids and you didn't or was it just adoption?
Speaker 2: You always wanted to do that and that was just
Speaker 2: your route neither.
Speaker 4: So we had pretty much said to ourselves, we're not
Speaker 4: even going to try until we're I'm like thirty two,
Speaker 4: you know, let's hang out, let's be married, then you know,
Speaker 4: get stuff done. And then we actually got our kids
Speaker 4: by we were driving in Baltimore City and we met
Speaker 4: a woman on the side of the street and she
Speaker 4: was panhandled. I'm so serious, like she's panhandling with her
Speaker 4: with her three year old. And so we were talking
Speaker 4: to her and she mentioned she had two more kids
Speaker 4: at home, so we were like, well, maybe we can
Speaker 4: help mentor get you guys some groceries. And long story short,
Speaker 4: we found out she was going to jail a year
Speaker 4: after that, and or not a year, I'm sorry, a
Speaker 4: month after that, and we said, okay, well what's the
Speaker 4: plan with the kids and she said, I don't know,
Speaker 4: and we said, okay, well we'll take them. So from
Speaker 4: the moment we were on the side of the street,
Speaker 4: thirty days later, we had the kids and we still
Speaker 4: have them and now I'm mom, not mentor wowntids. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so we had it was a three year old and
Speaker 4: eleven year old and a fourteen year old all girls sister,
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Oh no, I'm not. Absolutely. I actively
Speaker 4: try to keep them from licking outlets, you know, I
Speaker 4: like I criticized even the fourteen year old right. Literally,
Speaker 4: kids are trying to kill themselves constantly, and like you know,
Speaker 4: I'm always criticizing their eyebrows because that's like a family value.
Speaker 4: So I'm very as a mom. I do the best
Speaker 4: I can.
Speaker 3: Don't lie, eat right, and make sure your eyebrows are
Speaker 3: makes so you.
Speaker 4: Get it, so so you get it clearly.
Speaker 3: Are you in Are you located in Baltimore?
Speaker 4: No, so we move from Baltimore to Atlanta, Georgia. So
Speaker 4: I'm now like officially Southern. I use y'all periodically, you know,
Speaker 4: I fit.
Speaker 3: Are you from the Baltimore area?
Speaker 4: I am so like I was born and raised in DC,
Speaker 4: went to Hopkins and like you know, my husband's University
Speaker 4: of Maryland, that whole thing. But I'm a Southern girl
Speaker 4: at heart, like entirely like love country music, love like all.
Speaker 4: Like I was the girl at the front row of
Speaker 4: a Chris Young concert in Richmond, right, black girl cow.
Speaker 4: I had singing every lyric and people are like, what
Speaker 4: are you talking about? You know, but I'm like, you
Speaker 4: don't know me. This is my life.
Speaker 3: So give our listeners kind of like your elevator pitch
Speaker 3: of what your business you started and created is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So when I quit my job, I basically quit
Speaker 4: because what I realized was my friends who were bloggers
Speaker 4: and New York Times bestsellers and on TV and all
Speaker 4: that they were doing a great job doing their craft,
Speaker 4: which was writing books or being on TV or writing
Speaker 4: their blog, but they were trash at making money like
Speaker 4: it just they had no corporate skills and frankly, they
Speaker 4: weren't supposed to be. And a lot of people beat
Speaker 4: themselves up because they're like, I don't know how to
Speaker 4: profit from my skills for my gifts. I just know
Speaker 4: how to do the thing I do well, and I
Speaker 4: know that I need or they're all smart enough. Most
Speaker 4: of us are smart enough to realize I need more
Speaker 4: money coming from different places, but we don't know how
Speaker 4: to do it. So that's what I do. I opened
Speaker 4: up an online school called one K One Day Academy,
Speaker 4: and basically that's what I do is I walk people
Speaker 4: through education courses much like college, but it's like the
Speaker 4: stuff you actually need, where I show you how to
Speaker 4: do everything from building online store to sourcing it with
Speaker 4: products to opening up a business bank account, just like
Speaker 4: the real skills you need to have. So that that way,
Speaker 4: if you're an influencer, you're actually getting paid.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Thanks, It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know the fact that you know
Speaker 2: it's attainable too, you know, oh totally. It's helping people
Speaker 2: the steps of what they need to do to you know,
Speaker 2: get ahead, to get ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: From yea from a motivational standpoint, let me ask this
Speaker 3: at kind of asking for a friend here, someone who
Speaker 3: who wants to start you know, more of a passion
Speaker 3: project business. And but I find myself where my friend
Speaker 3: finds themselves questioning, like having days where it's like one
Speaker 3: day you're more motivated than other days. You're like, are
Speaker 3: people really going to get this? Do they? Is this
Speaker 3: really something I want to do? You know? What what
Speaker 3: do you tell? You know, your clients and the people
Speaker 3: you work with, like, yes, believe, continue to believe and
Speaker 3: get it going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I know that for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: The way my brain works is it works corporate style, right,
Speaker 4: so it's more tactical and less emotional. But what's great
Speaker 4: is that translates into action. So like odds are for
Speaker 4: you or your friend, Like you know, it's a situation
Speaker 4: where I wonder if my idea is good enough. Well,
Speaker 4: the reality is all ideas usually have a home. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you think about it, Steve Jobs, when he held
Speaker 4: up the iPhone, he didn't invent something new phones existed,
Speaker 4: He just took buttons off of it, you know, like
Speaker 4: little tweaks can make a whole new thing. So what
Speaker 4: I would tell that person is, instead of comparing yourself
Speaker 4: to somebody with big brand ideas who's super accomplished and
Speaker 4: has already hit a million dollars, just realize you can
Speaker 4: start small, like you literally, just launch it small, see
Speaker 4: how it goes, then expand and make it bigger. Oftentimes
Speaker 4: we just say to ourselves in our brain, it's not
Speaker 4: going to be successful if it doesn't blow up right away.
Speaker 4: But the reality is that's not how ninety nine percent
Speaker 4: of stuff in business doesn't work out that way. Everything
Speaker 4: starts small first. So though odds are, you can do it.
Speaker 4: If you think you can get what one hundred sales,
Speaker 4: ten sales, you can get a million of them. So
Speaker 4: start small.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what so the show that you're doing, what what
Speaker 2: can people expect with that? I mean, especially like your
Speaker 2: dynamic with your husband and tell us all about that.
Speaker 4: Well, so my husband's not a cool kid, right, Like,
Speaker 4: he doesn't look like this in a hat. He's a
Speaker 4: round Jewish lawyer, kind of shaped like a bowling pin.
Speaker 4: But I'm into that. So it works. You know, it's
Speaker 4: like it works out well, very hot, very hot. I'm
Speaker 4: into his brain. So so that said, our show is
Speaker 4: a little bit of both sides. You know, I'm a
Speaker 4: working mom, right so I'm spending time in the office,
Speaker 4: I'm on stage. I have these top celebrity clients. I'm
Speaker 4: building businesses, making a multimillions. But then I go home
Speaker 4: and I can't get my kids to shower regularly. You know,
Speaker 4: I can't get them to get their lives together. I
Speaker 4: can't get my you know, eighteen year old to move
Speaker 4: out of my house. You know, I mean these are
Speaker 4: all the things that every mom deals with. And it's
Speaker 4: hilarious to watch. You know, someone who people think is
Speaker 4: a boss, you know, not be in charge of anything.
Speaker 3: So get home and just get owned by everybody else.
Speaker 4: Owned totally owned. I mean, I go in and I
Speaker 4: was just joking. Yesterday, my nine year old comes to
Speaker 4: me and she's like, so I have to write an
Speaker 4: article about a famous African American for a Black History Month.
Speaker 4: And so I'm of course coughing, like famous, I'm black,
Speaker 4: I know. She looks at me and she's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I know, Like I know you're an African American, You're
Speaker 4: you know, but what what are you even famous for?
Speaker 4: Like what would you even be famous for? Like she
Speaker 4: was really like in my face, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, it's fine, it's fine. What's famous? She
Speaker 4: was like, well, you don't even have a billboard. Even
Speaker 4: the kid at the dentist has a billboard. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, you know what, that's fine. So this
Speaker 4: is what my life is like what I mean, it's
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Well I can't wait to watch it, just to see
Speaker 2: my future because the other day, Jolie just turned five.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm five, I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh god, here we go, and.
Speaker 4: Of it, the reality of it, it's like a regular
Speaker 4: They get into this I know that phase where it's
Speaker 4: like I know things because in their brain. They've been
Speaker 4: here forever at this point, Like, it's not a baby
Speaker 4: is three, you know what I mean? A baby's not five.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, I literally was fishing your turns out
Speaker 4: of the bathtub like five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watch you ask yesterday. Now all of a
Speaker 3: sudden you can do whatever you want. Like, all of a.
Speaker 4: Sudden, you can do it everyone. That's not how that goes, Like,
Speaker 4: are you kidding me? But you know, it's the joy
Speaker 4: of parenting.
Speaker 2: Where can our listeners find you? Because I want to
Speaker 2: see more of you too.
Speaker 4: Oh you're awesome. You can definitely find out more at
Speaker 4: Nicole Walters dot com. But I'm all over Socialist Nicole
Speaker 4: Walters and you can listen to my podcast, the Nicole
Speaker 4: Walters Podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love you. I'm excited to watch
Speaker 2: your show. Thanks for coming on. And yeah, excited to
Speaker 2: excited to watch the show. It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 4: You're the best. Everyone can watch February twenty fifth, at
Speaker 4: ten thirty pm on USA Network.
Speaker 3: AWESO, Thanks Nicole. We appreciate a big times.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Hey Mark, do we have any emails?
Speaker 4: We do?
Speaker 1: We have some nice emails here and This first one
Speaker 1: is from I believe it's pronounced janil je n i
Speaker 1: la janil. Recently, this past summer, my sister opened up
Speaker 1: to me about her marriage and the issues they were
Speaker 1: struggling with. I thought they were making progress, coming to
Speaker 1: find out, over the summer, my brother in law said
Speaker 1: he could not stay in the marriage any longer and
Speaker 1: left her and the.
Speaker 3: Two kids at home.
Speaker 1: He even started speaking to another woman, but he didn't
Speaker 1: say anything wrong with that because he was just trying
Speaker 1: to find himself. Long story short, they've been working on
Speaker 1: their marriage. They've began couple's therapy, he stopped speaking to
Speaker 1: other women, and he moved back into the family home.
Speaker 1: My struggle is, how do I move on from the
Speaker 1: pain he caused my sister? How do I move on
Speaker 1: and forgive him for leaving his kids and his family
Speaker 1: and thinking he was doing the right thing. Janna, how
Speaker 1: did your family ever forgive Mike? Did he ever have
Speaker 1: a conver with your family after everything that happened between
Speaker 1: you two.
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and start with this. Yes, I did
Speaker 3: have many conversations with you know, Jana's family, pretty much
Speaker 3: everyone in her family at some point, and it was very,
Speaker 3: very difficult. But here's the thing, and this is what
Speaker 3: everyone in Jana's family told me when I would talk
Speaker 3: to them about these things. They say, look, we're not
Speaker 3: happy about this right now. Obviously we don't approve of
Speaker 3: what you did, Mike, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: we love Jana, and if Jana chooses to love you,
Speaker 3: then we'll choose to love you too, or we'll choose
Speaker 3: to support her in loving you. So they just watch Jana.
Speaker 3: They just observe her. They feed off of her energy.
Speaker 3: They and you know, as the time goes and we
Speaker 3: have more and more moments together around the family, it
Speaker 3: gets more and more comfortable. People will realize, Hey, you know,
Speaker 3: we can do this. We are doing this. I don't
Speaker 3: have to be defined by my past actions, and now
Speaker 3: my relationship with all of them is fantastic, probably better
Speaker 3: than it's ever been, you know, from a connected standpoint
Speaker 3: for sure, with everybody. So yeah, that's what I would
Speaker 3: have to say, is just look at your sister and
Speaker 3: feed off of her energy. And it's your job as
Speaker 3: her sister too. Yeah, speak your truth, but also to
Speaker 3: love and support her and her decisions. And this is
Speaker 3: what she wants. Then you got to learn to deal
Speaker 3: with that. Now, if he hasn't talked to you, you
Speaker 3: do have the right to talk to him about it
Speaker 3: and express your feelings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have a right for that. And
Speaker 2: also on the other side of it, he didn't do
Speaker 2: anything directly like, yes, he hurt your sister and that's
Speaker 2: wrong and that's bad, but he is not your husband, boyfriend, lover,
Speaker 2: like he didn't hurt you. So sometimes if you bring
Speaker 2: in that negative energy to your sister, that's going to
Speaker 2: affect your sister's thought process with things, and that's not
Speaker 2: fair either. Is this making sense, Like it's it wasn't
Speaker 2: a personal attack towards her, and so to not don't
Speaker 2: take it on as a personal attack.
Speaker 3: Right, But it's almost I make up that it's almost harder,
Speaker 3: right because if you're not directly affected, you don't have
Speaker 3: that that confusion of but I love this person, but
Speaker 3: they hurt me type of conflict like you know, like
Speaker 3: maybe you have or you've had in the past with
Speaker 3: me where it's like she just sees red or she
Speaker 3: just sees enemy because she wasn't directly right, so you.
Speaker 2: Know, but it's also not her place too.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean she has to go, you know, shooting
Speaker 3: from the hip and causing shit. But it's almost easier
Speaker 3: to be angry.
Speaker 2: It's easier for It's almost one thousand percent easier for
Speaker 2: her to be angry. But I just want her to
Speaker 2: remember that, you know, the best thing you can do
Speaker 2: for your sister is just show support. And also if
Speaker 2: you have feelings and he hasn't talked to you, then
Speaker 2: be like, hey, is it cool if I have a
Speaker 2: conversation with him, because it is a personal thing, it
Speaker 2: is your sister. But I also like, try to remember
Speaker 2: that it's not your life. That yes, it affected it, it's.
Speaker 3: Something affect indirectly affected.
Speaker 2: But it's not you weren't directly affected. I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm being insensitive, but I hope you guys know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Trying to say now. It's just being directly versus indirectly effective.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, it's not Janille's life.
Speaker 3: It's her sister's life and decision. So she can have
Speaker 3: her thoughts, she can have her feelings. Janille can she
Speaker 3: can you know, express them in a healthy way, but
Speaker 3: it is her sister's decision. It is her sister's life.
Speaker 2: And you're going to have to. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: have to like it, but if you want to be comfortable,
Speaker 2: you're going to have to, you know, Like, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's plenty of times where my mom, you know, did
Speaker 2: not like Michael, but she's still tried, you know, when
Speaker 2: she's still put on the happy face because she knew
Speaker 2: that I needed that of her. So now if it
Speaker 2: continues to happen, then of course you have to have
Speaker 2: tough love. If you're like, I can't have this in
Speaker 2: my life anymore, like I you know I have. We
Speaker 2: have a friend whose sister keeps staying in an abusive relationship,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I can't keep watching you go through this.
Speaker 2: That's it, you know, when it continuously happens, that is
Speaker 2: affecting your life more and you sometimes you're like, I can't,
Speaker 2: I can't have this. I can't be in front of
Speaker 2: him knowing this is happening. So do you have anything else?
Speaker 1: This is from Danielle Jenna. How do you deal with
Speaker 1: your anxiety and ways you cope since the pandemic. I've
Speaker 1: noticed I've been getting more anxiety, and I've been trying
Speaker 1: to find ways to deal with it better. I just
Speaker 1: had my second baby, so I've been home a lot
Speaker 1: with my family and my husband. But I'm longing for
Speaker 1: the days to get back to normalcy, aren't we all,
Speaker 1: Danielle preach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, Danielle. And it's been it's been tough.
Speaker 2: I think what I have to. There's been a few
Speaker 2: things that I've done, even here in Vancouver, when I
Speaker 2: started to get anxiety. I don't know if you're religious,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times I ask for God to
Speaker 2: take away my anxiety. To help me with it. I
Speaker 2: do grounding exercises, so I either count five, four, three,
Speaker 2: two one, or I literally count my fingers all the
Speaker 2: way to ten. I'll go outside put my feet in
Speaker 2: the grass. That's a grounding exercise, and it just kind
Speaker 2: of brings your body back to reality, back to here,
Speaker 2: back to what's not in your brain happening. Also, another
Speaker 2: grounding exercise is if you're in a room, listen to
Speaker 2: things like what's something that you notice right now that
Speaker 2: you can hear, or that you can see, or that
Speaker 2: you can feel, and that again grounds you, takes you back.
Speaker 2: Meditation is really helpful therapy if you do emdr and
Speaker 2: it's really good for anxiety to kind of bring up
Speaker 2: things that you're needing to cope with. Maybe that's more
Speaker 2: trauma underneath, and then you know, get juju with it
Speaker 2: and get some oils in.
Speaker 3: Lavender and yeah, just Danielle, honestly, you know, go to Google.
Speaker 2: Tell someone too, by the way.
Speaker 3: Go to Google and just type in search for like
Speaker 3: mindfulness exercises, and that's just a way to again kind
Speaker 3: of like Jana saying, getting grounded, but it's a way
Speaker 3: to take your mind and focus it on things that
Speaker 3: are in front of you right in that moment, rather
Speaker 3: than things that are outside of your control.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: And just know that I would say I'm fine, I'm
Speaker 2: not dying, I will be okay. And sometimes the best
Speaker 2: thing that I've ever done for myself is when I
Speaker 2: do have an anxiety, I say, whoever I'm with right now,
Speaker 2: I'm having an anxiety attack, and the second someone comes
Speaker 2: in and helps me, or Mike and he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: like what are you okay? Like what do you need
Speaker 2: to sit down? I feel better knowing that I'm not alone.
Speaker 2: So hope that helps. All Right, Well, guys, I'm really
Speaker 2: excited because when.
Speaker 3: We talk to them next week, we'll be free.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, And the animals will still be stuck
Speaker 2: at the zoo, but we'll go wave and say hi.
Speaker 3: We'll free them all. Catch us on the knees.
Speaker 2: When we free all the animals, we'll be at the
Speaker 2: Greater Vancouver Zoo letting go of all the monkeys and
Speaker 2: the tigers.
Speaker 3: And then in prison.
Speaker 2: So see you guys next week.
Speaker 3: Later