WEBVTT - Sneaking Into The Stadium With Alyssa Milano 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:03.640 It was a very weird existence for a teenager and 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.400 everything that went I went through in my life. They 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.360 wrote it, And Who's the Boss Man? 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:09.040 What's hand him? 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:09.200 Man? 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.600 You got mar Shaw, Bismall Lynch. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.240 Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.760 And you're listening to politics. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:17.200 You know to be you known to be. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:27.960 Gavin. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.280 Uh. We have in the waiting room a long time 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.560 actress from childhood on epic shows like Who's. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.839 The Boss to a producer, a writer, director, a Broadway star. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.800 Activist, activist, ah, you know, someone that has been involved 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.400 in incredible things forever. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:46.839 H and I you know what. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.080 She's also a big fan of the NFL more sean, 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.920 she's also a big fan of the Dodge. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.520 That Dodger. We'll hold that not again. Well, we'll hold 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.680 that slightly against her, Yeah, slightly. The great Alissa Milana Alyssa. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:58.600 How are you, Alissa? 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.720 Hi? I am great? How are you? 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.800 I mean, you know, as well as people can be doing. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.760 Right with the Dodgers winning the World Series, I'm still 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.840 having fully recovered from that. You're busy as a governor, right, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.600 you have nothing? I know, I actually feel pretty good 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.600 about that. I was happy they beat. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.840 You wait, so wait, you're not a. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:24.160 Daughter's fan from San Francisco. I know I'm the Governor. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.800 I did a go Dodgers video. Okay, look, I'm all 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.360 in with the Governor of New York. I won the bet. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:32.320 It was a great thing. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.720 The Giants had enough World Series championships. It was our 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.360 time where we've had a good run. I have no 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.360 doubt that the Giants will be back up there at 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:45.440 some point. But give us our moment for really. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.760 Your moment, and you're gonna have so many moments coming up. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.440 It means crazy. Wait to listen, are you Are you 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:50.880 a Bronx screw or Brooklyn girl. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.919 I'm a Brooklyn girl. So my dad used to sneak 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:59.360 into Ebbitts Field from under the bleachers. So yeah, so 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:00.840 I have no choice. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.680 We had a blueprint, huh on how to get the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:04.160 fuck down. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.080 It's right, we ain't paying that high ass cost to 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.239 get in there for the fifty dollars hot dog, twenty 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.919 dollars boxes of popcorn, is sue. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.880 He had a system. He had a system. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.359 So, Lissa, you grew up as a kid as a 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.120 as a sports fan. Then your younger years six seven, eight, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.040 you grew up a Dodger fan? 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.280 Was it Yankees? What was it? 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.840 Was a Yankees? I was a Yankees fan because my 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.080 dad was rebelling against the National League because they moved 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.200 the Dodgers, and I lived in New York still at 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.720 the time. When I got through the Boss, we moved 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.800 out to California, and of course the Dodgers became more 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.600 geographically convenient, and my dad became a Dodgers and so 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.120 literally the way I connect I wrote a book about 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.080 this called Safe at Home. The way that I connected 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.400 with my dad throughout my childhood was through baseball. And 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.160 I used to, you know, fall asleep to the sound 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.560 of Vinceculley's voice calling games. And my son now plays 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.720 pretty competitive, I mean as competitive as you can be 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:07.760 at at thirteen. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.400 So did you sneak into any games? 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.280 I may have snuck into a few clubhouses. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:20.400 Oh okay, we won't go there. That's scary. I love 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:21.160 that you love. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.639 One up like a motherfucker. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.519 You come home, you've got the whole vibe, and then. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.120 You vibe sneaking. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.440 Yeah, So listen, you love the baseball players, any any 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:36.560 any football players? 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.800 Hockey? Was it always baseball? The love of baseball? 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.680 My first boyfriend was a hockey player. He actually was 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:48.360 on the Kings, got traded for Kelly Rudy. Remember that trade? 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:49.000 I do remember that? 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:49.240 Yes? 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.880 Wow, Well you know more. Sean Alyssa is part owner 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.920 of the Seattle Kraken. So he's a he's a he's 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:54.839 a big hockey guy. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.920 I love hockey. I love hockey. My brother went to 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.760 shot at Saint Mary as a kid, which is a 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.440 boarding school in Minnesota, on a ice hockey scholarship. We're 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:11.920 a big hockey family. My son just didn't. He gravitated 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.840 more towards baseball, but we gave him both opportunities. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.480 Yeah, you got to be a different type of individual 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.839 to get out there on that ice. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:21.640 That ship is you know what I mean? 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.640 I got out there on the ice and got one 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.880 of them sticks and got the fucking around a little bit, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.880 and then I was like, you know what, I got 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.120 a different level of respect for them dudes like I. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.240 It's incredible. The athleticism is incredible. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:40.400 Yes, that's that's what really uh opened my eyes? Like 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.760 them motherfuckers that get up and be skating full speed forward? 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.240 Is it then slide on a die and start doing 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.880 that ship backwards? You know what I got them. And 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.200 then they have come and run and to your will, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.040 slide into your ass and hit you. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.599 Into the and then they have to take this little 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.520 black look and shoot it into the net with how 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.000 many defenders on the ice. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.080 I mean, it's not and they're tough and they want 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.960 to hit you and they want to fight and afterwards. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.760 The only thing I'm said about where hockey is. I 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:18.000 was a mighty duckt fan growing up. I used to 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.040 love the flying v Yeah, and when I found out 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.640 that that wasn't it, Yeah, man, I was. I was 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.240 fucked up. That crushed all my you know what I mean. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.280 But I'll get out there and fuck around. If I could, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.880 I could go skate like really fast. It's just the 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:36.480 stopping it. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.159 By the way, it can't be surprised. On the West 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.880 Coast California, there's no where do you play hockey as 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.240 a kid, understand the base everywhere. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:57.279 As soon as Gretzky came to California, I mean it 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.760 was it was a big deal. And all of these 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.560 you programs started turning up. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.640 Must be more selling case it must because I don't 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.920 you know it's here. It's more sol Morris so Kel yeah. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:09.600 Interesting. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:11.560 So did you any sports? 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.760 No I had. I didn't have a childhood. I was 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.719 working from the time I was nine years old. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.320 Damn marshat she started. And by the way, Alyssa is 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.760 this is a true story. Your babysitter takes you to 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.560 an audition without even telling your parents. It's seven years 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.679 old to an anti audio. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.520 Correct, that's correct. There. It was an open antie audition 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.880 and fifteen hundred kids showed up. Four were picked for 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.320 the National Touring Company and I was one of the four. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.840 But will you prepare? I mean? Is that is all? 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:38.600 I mean? 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.400 She just said hey, or may have been a hit, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.760 I don't know, it said hey, let's let let's come down. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.839 I got an idea. Spend some time with you today. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.880 Instead of going to the park, We're going to do an. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.119 Audioly she she was going in on the audition because 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.720 she was an equity member and they were also auditioning 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.520 for the ensemble. So she took me with her and 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.080 look at me and I was like, you know, sort 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.240 of mimicking what the kids were doing on the stage. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.520 And she was like, do you want to go up there? 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.279 Do you want to audition? And I have no idea. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.520 What the word audition meant? I just knew that, like 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.800 I love to sing and dance, so I was like sure. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.320 It was this huge, long, fourteen hour process, and finally 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:22.560 as groups started getting cut down, she called my parents 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.680 and she was like, I think you probably should have 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.800 should come down here. And then they weren't going to 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.280 let me do it because they were like, what are 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.320 you talking about. We have a life, we have our 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.920 you know, we have business and we have things to do, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.560 and the way they tell it, I basically locked myself 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.960 in my room and was so depressed that I couldn't 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.440 do it. And then they finally said okay, So my 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.240 mom and I went to you know this on this 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.560 touring company and we left my dad, which was bone crushing. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.360 But then when I got Who's the Boss, we moved 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.920 to California, just me and my dad because my mom 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.840 was like, well this is never going to work a series. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.520 Listen, So what age were? What age was? Who's the Boss? 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.360 When'd you start? 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:03.880 What? Age? 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.680 Eleven? I was eleven to nineteen, so. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.440 Eleven years old and your parents like and then like, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:10.920 how do you I mean it's hard to say no. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.480 To that, right, my mom said no. My mom was like, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.280 there is no way I am moving this family out 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.320 to California. You guys can go, because she was like, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.240 there's no way this is going to work. And this 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.920 is a time there were only three stations, you guys. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.280 There was ABC, NBC, and CBS and that was it. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.440 Yeah. But listen, were you would you you actively trying 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.199 to get that role? I mean, was your mom was 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.800 out there? She was touring with you for Annie. She 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.840 was obviously she bought in enough to your being an 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.000 actress on stage. You must have gone to an audition 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.439 with her for Who's the Boss. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.800 I went with my dad, But I don't think they 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.960 really knew what they were doing. I mean, mind you, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.760 they were in their early thirties. Yeah, So, I mean 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.320 it was such a different you know, and I think 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.760 New York represented a lot of struggle for them, Like 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:04.880 my mom didn't have, you know, we came from very little, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.880 and so for them, I think it was opportunity and 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:13.800 I think it was you know, for me, it was 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:18.240 just like my creative outlet and I've been so blessed 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.280 to still be able to to do it all these 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.080 years later. And then what it's what it's afforded me. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.760 Marshaun, you may not remember you were, probably wouldn't been 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.000 born yet. But Who's the Boss was a freaking monster hit, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.280 and I grew up watching Who's the Boss? Does come 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.000 on and Alyssa, here's a funny thing. I kind of 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.000 forgotten my calling. My call was probably to be. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.599 An actor as well, and as a few. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.719 He just showed us a revisual take from one of. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.720 His But but Alissa, my claim to fame. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.880 I was an extra that turned into an actual role 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.000 in the movie Angels Nowfield and your co star Tony 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.600 Danza was the other picture in the movie Father. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.560 It was Matthew McConaughey claimed to Fame. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.160 Danny Glover was in it, and I was the other 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.240 picture with Tony Danzer and I'll never forget. We're like 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.560 day eleven of shooting and Tony literally takes all the 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.960 non actors like myself and everybody, and we went to 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.920 Larry Blake's in Berkeley and he bought all of us 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.280 drinks and food and the greatest guy in the world. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.680 But every day between sets he would roller skate around 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.680 the Colisseum yeah, or his rollerblaze, whatever it may be. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.120 That for exercise that crazy like ten like ten miles 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.120 a day in the colisseum doing was. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.120 In amazing shape and tap dancing too. Did he tap 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:41.559 dance for you? 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:42.400 He did tap dance? 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.920 Yeah, yeah, you know what. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.559 You've been tap dancing around this one little thing your 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.440 entire life. Doug. By the way, listen, just say you 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.360 know no, Bs and Marshan could attest to this. Doug 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.400 just two days ago sent Marshawn and I had text 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.960 and it was his residual text check of like two. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.280 Dollars and eighty seven cents for your role in this 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.240 damn movie. No, that was talking us the episode of 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.440 the League with more, Shawn, I. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.319 Got some more regrets that you didn't pursue it further. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.560 Jesus No, because Marshawn will tell you. I'm very I 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:19.880 was very bad at it and was it though, No, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.240 but it was it was fun. So I've been an 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.120 agent for ever. But anyways, I did that kind of 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.679 I was struggling starting out agent and it was kind 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:27.839 of fun. And then they asked me to be in 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.439 another baseball movie and I said no because I had 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.520 to go make a living and recruit players and da 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.600 da da. But a little bit of regret, like, Wow, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.480 this would be pretty cool to kind of kept doing it. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.520 And now more Shawn is a big movie star kind 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:40.920 of movies. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:47.280 Have you ever seen what is that movie called Jerry Maguire? 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.040 I love that movie so much. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:54.320 That is exactly who Doug is. He's that on like 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:55.720 on stereo. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:57.960 I was Tom Cruise. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.400 Moreshawn was Cuba Gooding Jew Jesus, and he'd be like, mother, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.959 know me my money. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.959 It's not exaggerated speaking of money. And by the way, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.400 I'm serious about this, Alyssa. I mean, at such a 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.719 young age and here you are come. I mean, I'd 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.280 forgotten it was that long. That show lasted that long, 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.600 which is amazing. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.480 You're Charmed too, charm same time eight years too. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.480 Yeah, just crazy. So you were able to have two 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.160 huge runs. So you're so young. And we had Demi 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.360 Lovato on a few weeks ago and we were talking 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.000 about child stars and we were talking about the struggles 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.679 and the sort of the the energy with parents. Sometimes 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.520 it's all about the parents. Sometimes the parents are taking 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.480 all the money. H Sometimes that pressure and all the 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.320 stress of fame at such an early age, and you 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.240 seem to I mean, in hindsight, I mean, I look 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.160 at you today, but you weathered that pretty well, didn't you. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.440 Yes, for sure. But my parents have been together since 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.960 they were fifteen. There, you know, I have a brother. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.440 There's very big in my life. Community. Family has always 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.160 meant more than anything else. And my mom didn't go 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.040 to set with me. She actually had she hired a 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.760 guardian on Who's the Boss because it was so important 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.080 for her to be home for my brother. So I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.280 think that that was, you know, an indication that that 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.160 was my life and she had her life. But the 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.120 other thing about you know, pop stars have a totally 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:30.920 different complexity to it because child actors there's actually something 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:36.560 called the Jackie Coogan Law where we're protected as far 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.439 as financially, whereas pop stars don't really have that because 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:44.880 there's not a union, so they're not protected by you know, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.240 any sort of union. So parents, managers can come in 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.000 and take a lot of their money as a kid 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.480 and they don't know. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.200 And you know, it's interesting, Alyssa, what we were able 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.160 to do, the reason we were a DEMI was we 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.600 actually signed a law in the state of California replicating 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.960 the Cougan Long Accepting extending it to content creators, folks 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.240 on YouTube, et cetera. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:20.280 Amazing. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.560 That is amazing trying to address precisely the example that 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:25.880 the exception you just referenced. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.160 Oh and so many parents use their kids for views 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:36.320 and for you know, advertising dollars, and yeah, that's that's 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.920 a really important thing. Good for you. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.600 But you so you never had that, So you had 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.040 a great So I love to hear that you had 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.520 such a stable family, so that relationship to fame, to 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.280 money and youth, you were able to weather that pretty well. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.680 My parents, at a very young age instilled to me 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:59.240 that like part of being a fan and by the way, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.720 fame was very different then. You know, I got trolled, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.360 but it was through fan mail, so like I didn't 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.320 have to see it because they went through it all. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.640 But you know, part of that was an era where 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:16.479 you know, we grew up idolizing people like Audrey Hepburn 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:22.000 and Jane Fonda and celebrities that actually did john people 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:27.800 that did something with their fame that was important to society, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.560 to community. And so that's how I grew up. So 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.600 my parents always instilled in me, like, you have this 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.560 incredible opportunity to really create change. And I think It's 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.920 why I've continued my activism to this day because I 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.960 don't I don't understand the point of being famous if 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.800 you're not going to do something positive or use your 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.880 voice for you know, marginalized communities or human human rights issues. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.960 And that started for me at fifteen, during the AIDS epidemic. 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:05.320 I was friends with Ryan White. To look him up, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.000 google him if you don't know who he is. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.880 I still remember the philadel hum interview. I mean, by 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.120 the way and Marshawn what Alyssa did or she's about 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.000 to and she can express it better than I, but 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.480 it's so indelible. I mean, this was a time when 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.800 people with HIV and AIDS, people didn't even want to 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.560 touch them or be in the same room. And here's 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:27.080 Alyssa tell us the story. You go on Phil Donahue 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.760 with Ryan. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.360 And I kissed him to prove that you couldn't get 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.000 HIV AIDS from casual contact, which at. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.120 The time was just like nobody was just before magic 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:39.840 or after magic. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.640 This was before before. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.840 Magic, yes, the beginning the beginning of the yes. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.680 And that was the moment I mean I Ryan White 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.680 really changed my life because I realized, oh, this is 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.520 this is the power of storytelling. This is the power 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.720 of what I can contribute. And so it took my 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.800 career to like a different place in my mind, and 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:10.639 I think that that's been very helpful in not only 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.840 just keeping me grounded, but also just the longevity, because 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.520 it's I find like the business is really hard. The 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.760 people who have long careers are the people who are 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.600 willing to deal with it, to deal with the hardship 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:29.320 of the rejection, and you know, the resilience that you 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.359 have to have to have a forty year career in 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:39.119 the entertainment industry is rewarded with longevity in the career. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.080 In your career, and I guess it's a lot like 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.159 athletes too, like what you have to overcome as a 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.920 kid and then in high school sports and in college 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.960 sports and the competition. Like you know, I feel like 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.880 you're you're rewarded for having resilience no matter what you do. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.320 Well, it's interesting more, Shawn, that's a great question for 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.640 you because obviously you've been an athlete at the highest 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.439 level and now you're in the acting business. Have you 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.679 seen uh, maybe not you, but a lot of people, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.040 whether it be former players or even people you're dealing 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.479 with now and casting calls and all that stuff. The 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.800 rejection and whatnot you're seeing as as an athlete compared 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:16.600 to actor. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.800 To me is sort of the same, you know. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:26.040 I mean considering like when I start in high school, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.399 like I want to be a quarterback, and you know, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.600 I mean I got beat out by uh by my cousin, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:37.440 and yeah, I mean I had to Yeah, I mean 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.199 program my mind like Okay, I'm not going to be 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.399 playing quarterback, but I love the game. So where am 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.280 I actually gonna fit in and have to you know, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.879 I mean, uh learn a new position and you know, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:56.520 I mean really uh get into that. A lot of 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:01.680 individuals who don't you know, I mean to translate to them, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.600 you know, they can fall off, they can fall into 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.040 a dark place. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:10.240 And I mean or one bad coach. Yeah, so many 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.760 athletes have that one bad coach and they're like, I. 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.919 Can't do this and they show I mean, you know, 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.359 in it and it cut the their career short. So 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.320 being able to you know, I mean adapt to that, Yeah, 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:25.119 I mean as well like for a situation like I mean, 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.120 I guess I picked that up from you know, from 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.119 playing sports. But you know there's times where I've you know, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.480 read for a role and you know, I mean, uh, 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.399 you know, I don't hear about it and you know, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.359 having to continue to go out there and you know, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:43.600 continue to do it, you know. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.280 I mean it's more and so just you know, having 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:47.200 the right. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.119 Mindset when when you're doing these things, and you know, 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.280 I mean I kind of don't look at it as 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.760 a like a rejection type thing. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.760 Is just more so like okay, what did not do? 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.840 Yeah, I mean in order to secure that uh that role, 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.040 Like what can I work on? I mean, I take 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.240 it as a challenge to myself where you know, I mean, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.359 I think I said it before, like, uh, I don't 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.280 I don't take ls, you know what I mean. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.840 I learned lessons and you know what. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.760 I mean, the more that you know, I go out 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.240 and I do that, and the more lessons I learned, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.080 I'm more seasoned the next time I get the opportunity 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:26.399 to go and do it. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.320 So, you know what I mean, capitalizing on. 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.680 Every opportunity that I have and whether I get the 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.480 role or I don't get the role, being able to 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.320 learn something from it, I mean to help me. 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.680 But the list is interesting. I mean, if you look 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.560 at like you and more Shawn the thick skin. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.000